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🎙️WEB3 MUSIC | +C.O.C ft BetterCallZaal + Guests sponsor META-BUILDERS
Recorded: Dec. 29, 2023 Duration: 1:56:22Space Recording
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Welcome aboard.
I now bring you our host, Die Revolution.
Good afternoon.
Happy Friday and welcome to Community Community's Web3 Space.
Tonight, we will be featuring the Web3 music of the blockchain space.
We are super excited.
Our special guest for tonight is Zal, or better known as BetterCallZal.Lens.
We are super excited about it.
I'll just give you guys a brief rundown of how we conduct our spaces before we dive into the guests and the team.
So, normally, we host spaces with two guests.
Tonight, it's a little bit different and a bit more special.
Because we're featuring the Web3 music of the Web3 space, we will be having multiple guests up tonight.
We are also going to do things slightly differently, but nonetheless, similar in regards of how we conduct our space.
First of all, I will introduce our co-hosts for tonight and the rest of our team.
And then I will then introduce our special guests of the night.
And then we will then get all the rest of the guests up on stage.
So, thank you, everyone, for joining.
We really appreciate it.
If you haven't already, please re-share the room.
Let's spread this out.
Let's get some people in and let's highlight some of the best parts of the Web3 industry.
Thank you to everyone that's re-posted the room already.
But first of all, I will go through the stage and just welcome the team to the space to start with.
So, first of all, we have our two co-hosts.
We have Meta Builders and The Bacon Sandwich.
Mike Smart, how are we doing, sir?
I just got my head full of buzzwords.
I just want to be like, Web3, decentralization, NFT, bro.
Let's go.
That's what we need.
That's what we need.
Let's go.
Nice one, Mike.
Fucking good to see you, brother.
We also have The Bacon Sandwich.
Bacon, how are we doing, my good southern friend?
It's The Bacon Sandwich from TheBaconSammwich.crypto.
I'm doing that because Tricky can't make it because he's currently thousands of feet up in the air on his way home from seeing his family.
Yes, he is.
I wonder if he can see the Earth's curve.
Anyway, that's a topic for another time.
Well, yeah.
No, nice one, Bacon.
Hope you are good.
It's Friday again.
I'll say that because you're saying Tricky's peak, so I'll say your bit.
It's definitely Friday again.
That's definitely coming up a lot faster each week, I'm sure of it.
But anyway, without further ado.
Someone had to remind me.
Someone had to remind me, actually, that the space was happening today.
I was just chilling with the boys on Xbox and my mate goes, sir, don't you start your thing in a minute?
I was like, oh, quick.
Go, go, go.
I love it.
We'll shout out to you everywhere that remembered that fair play.
We'll have to get them in on the space.
Yeah, that's my boy.
That's a good friend, that.
That's a good friend.
I like it.
Yeah, he knows.
Yeah, they know what time it is.
I love it.
We also have Christine Abbott, who has also got many titles.
So it's Christine Abbott from the Stray Dogs Club, the Duglands Official, the Shibu Society
and the Community Communities Core Team.
How are we doing, Christine?
Oh, I think we're having technical difficulties again.
Yeah, we can't hear you, Christine, I'm afraid.
Yeah.
Hold on.
You can hear me now, right?
Yeah, I can hear you now.
I can hear you now.
How are we doing, bro?
Are you alive?
Yeah, I'm stuffed.
Yeah, well, I know, well, off what you said, you should be empty now.
Yeah, that's true.
I'm still full anyway, but I'm excited for the space.
Let's get it on.
Yes, happy Friday.
Happy Friday.
We also have CryptoTot in the building.
How are we doing, Tony?
I'm doing good, Mickey.
How is everyone?
Glad to see everyone in here.
Looking forward to this space.
Absolutely.
I'm super excited for this one.
Yeah, normally it does take between five or ten minutes to get everyone in the space.
You know, we know how life is and how Web3 is.
So, in the meantime, we will just, you know, get warmed into the space.
And over the next five or ten minutes, everyone else should hopefully come and join us.
But without further ado, we have the one, the only, Zal.
How are we doing, sir?
Thank you for joining us tonight.
Hello, hello.
How's everyone doing tonight?
That was a little...
You get a musical intro.
That's sick.
No, actually, that wasn't my intro.
That is Django's new single that's coming out in a month.
It's January 31st.
It's going to be our first Web3 release, our first thing that we've done since we've gotten
into Web3, our first release even in the last six months.
He's been grinding.
I've been grinding.
We're really, really, really excited to get this out there.
So, maybe in a little bit, I'll be able to play the rest of it.
And you guys can give your feedback and we can get to that point.
But thank you for having me.
Appreciate you guys for having me here.
This is one of my favorite communities.
So, anytime I get asked to join by Thay, I have to join because man's a legend.
Everything you guys are doing is awesome.
One of the most...
The best communities that I've just gotten so much out of.
So, love you guys.
Love being here.
And I'm unbelievably honored that you chose to honor me tonight with being the featured guest
because I just got into Web3 Music this year and it's been an exponential ride.
And I'm so excited to talk about it.
Let's go.
Thank you for the positivity.
And absolutely, I couldn't think of anyone better.
You're doing amazing things.
You're working extremely hard.
And it's great to see and it's the energy that the space needs.
And I'm super excited that for your first release, we'll definitely have to try and support that
the best way we can and maybe do another space around the time and showcase it for the rest
of the community.
But yeah, no, we're super excited to speak to you.
We appreciate the way that you entered the community.
You wanted to add value straight off the bat and you've done nothing but do that.
You've been supportive.
You're getting involved with everything and it's completely invaluable and I can't tell
how much we appreciate it.
So, thank you.
Well, thank you because there's just so much to do and you guys have done so much already.
I'm excited to be here and add to that journey.
Let's go.
We are equally excited, my friend.
I assure you it's going to be awesome.
But that's the great part about this is that this is where all of our passions lie.
This is where we can bring people together and this is where we can do something that
benefits everybody but also the greater good for all the amazing things that we want to do
in the world at the same time.
So, it's great that this is a complete mashup of everything we care about and we can put
it all in one place and help everyone benefit for getting involved, for supporting and, you
know, for doing all the things that they're doing.
So, yeah.
Super excited industry and what a great time to be alive.
1,000%.
I think this is an amazing opportunity to give a little bit of gratitude.
So, today I am grateful to be here with all you amazing individuals.
I haven't done my grounding things for today.
So, I'm going to just do it right here.
So, today's card of the day is refuse to eat emotional poison.
Taking things personally makes you pray for predators.
They can hook your attention with one little opinion and feed you whatever poison they
want.
Refuse to eat poison.
And my second thing for today is I like to read a little bit one page out of my Don't
Sweat the Small Stuff book and it's all small stuff.
Simple ways to keep the little things from taking over your life.
So, that one today is let others have the glory.
There is something magical that happens to the human spirit.
A sense of calm that comes over you when you cease needing all the attention directed towards
yourself and instead allow others to have the glory.
Our need for excessive attention is that ego-centered part of us that says, look at me.
I'm special.
My story is more interesting than yours.
It's that voice of us that may not come right out and say it but wants to believe that my
accomplishments are slightly more important than yours.
The ego is that part of us that wants to be seen, heard, respected, considered special.
Often at the expense of someone else.
It's the part of us that interrupts someone else's story or impatiently waits his turn to
speak so that he can bring the conversation and attention back to himself.
To varying degrees, most of us engage in this habit, much to our own detriment.
When you immediately dive in and bring the conversation back towards you, you can subtly
minimize the joy that a person has in sharing and in doing so, create distance between yourself
and others.
Everyone loses.
The next time someone tells you a story or shares an accomplishment with you, notice your
tendency to say something about yourself in response.
Although it's a difficult habit to break, it's not only enjoyable but actually peaceful to
have the quiet confidence to be able to surrender your need for attention and instead share in the
joy of someone else's glory.
Rather than jumping in and saying, once I did the same thing or guess what I did today,
bite your tongue and notice what happens.
Just say, that's wonderful.
Or, please tell me more.
And leave it at that.
The person you're speaking to will have a much more fun and because you're so much more present,
because you're listening so carefully, he or she won't feel in competition with you.
The result will be that the person will feel much more relaxed around you, making him more
confident as well as more interesting.
You, too, will feel more relaxed because you won't be on the edge of your seat waiting
your turn.
Obviously, there are many times when it's absolutely appropriate to exchange experience
back and forth and share in glory and attention rather than giving it all away.
I'm referring here to the compulsive need to grab it from others.
Ironically, when you surrender your need to hog the glory, the attention you need from
other people is replaced by a quiet inner confidence that is derived from letting others have
Honestly, didn't think it would be that long.
That was three pages.
Normally, it's only a page.
But I honestly really resonate with that chapter.
I spent a lot of my life not in that mindset and being a very selfish individual.
But luckily, through the grace of God and other things in my life and just the experiences,
I've found ways to think about the future and the different experiences I have all leading
to a better future.
So trying to make that better future now and being a little more selfless instead of selfish.
So I can really resonate with that.
And I think a big reason why I'm here is actually to have to let others take the glory.
I'm actually here for my artist, Django.
Personally, that's why I've been working so hard in this music space for the last three
years.
I've been his manager for the last three years.
And honestly, he's just one of my closest friends.
And I want to see him succeed and do well, not only as a musician, but as a human and
an individual as well.
So we shared a lot of experiences other than musical experiences or business experiences
together because we're that close.
He's come to my own home and met my parents and worked with hometown kids from my high
school that produce.
So it's just been an amazing experience in Web3.
And I just like to give back because that's the reason I'm here, to give back to this
one individual.
And through that, I've been able to find so many ways to give back to others.
God bless you, sir.
That was absolutely incredible, first of all.
And you're absolutely right.
And I completely resonate with that.
And I'm sure everyone on this stage completely resonates with that because that is why they're
on the stage.
That's why they rock that plus.
And that is why we're all coming together to try and do things to benefit others.
And we take many hits for doing the right thing, the right way with the right people,
because we're living a life of truth in a world full of lies.
Hence why it's so important that we come together and support each other the way we do.
So thank you for that.
That was very beautiful.
So, yeah, well said, bro.
Just really quick before we dive into anything further, I just want to quickly introduce a
guest to the stage.
It's Louis Baby.
Louis, happy birthday.
It's this man's birthday today.
He's also got a release that I'm hoping he's going to speak about.
And this man works so hard.
He does so many amazing things.
The kids where he works is an absolute inspiration.
He speaks truth.
He speaks it however he sees he can.
He's a super gifted individual who is not afraid to walk the right path, regardless of
whatever comes his way.
So, Louis, big love, bro.
Welcome and happy birthday, my friend.
Happy birthday, Louis.
Ladies and gentlemen, I am out here.
I am in these New York...
Oh, my God.
Hold on.
I literally am on a space and I ran into a friend from high school.
I got to go on mute.
I'll be back.
Now, that's the sound of someone who's having a good birthday.
That's how I like to hear it.
Let's go.
So, Louis will be with us.
He's out doing stuff but wanted to join the space nonetheless.
So, big love to Louis.
I'm sure he'll be back shortly.
I'm a big fan of Louis.
Like you were saying, he speaks truth.
His lyrics are real hard-hitting.
And, like, it's quality.
If you're not following that guy, you need to be following that guy.
Yeah.
And I know people are probably bored of me saying this now.
But, you know, massive shout-out to Mike for bringing him to our attention.
As always, finding the OGs, the great people, and shining lights on them.
So, when you were speaking about helping others, Zal, that's why I love Mike as much as I do.
Because he's got the balls to do the right thing, to stand on the firing line, to bring the light to the right people.
And, you know, it's people that lead like that, that take the most shots, get hit the hardest, but have the biggest hearts and have the best vision to do the right thing.
So, yeah, much love and, yeah, super honoured to be alongside such absolute legends.
But, yeah, so, until Louis is finished speaking to his friend from high school, which I'm guessing that's a 20-year gap.
So, that could be an hour-long conversation easily.
That's a long time frame to fit in a small conversation.
But, yeah, so, Zal, if you just want to give a little introduction to who you are and what you're building, just in case anyone doesn't know who you are, that would be awesome.
Yeah, for sure.
Hi, everyone.
My name is Zal.
I was born in Boston, Massachusetts in 1999.
So, I'm a young'un.
I spent about 18 years of my life in Boston.
And then I went to college in upstate New York in Rochester at the Rochester Institute of Technology in upstate New York.
And I spent about five years of my life there until about a year and a half ago I moved out to Portland, Oregon, where I work full-time as an automation engineer.
I program robots full-time.
And as soon as I get home, I'm trying to find different ways to make Django's music, promote Django's music, essentially.
That's what I've been doing for the last three years.
And for the first two years, there was minimal success, you could say.
We had small successes here and there, but not the results we were looking for until I kind of stumbled into the Web3 space earlier this year in February.
And from there, the results have been there and everything has been explosive, exponential.
In fact, the community has been unbelievably welcoming as opposed to the normal music industry community, which is very gatekeeping, gatekeeper-y.
So I found a very stark difference immediately as soon as I started to hang out around Web3 individuals because I felt that sense of wanting to make the world a better place and not necessarily just make more money,
even though a lot of people tended to think of the average crypto person as just an individual who is money-hungry and looking for money first at any cost.
So I really thought that I had a false perception of crypto and everything blockchain until I really delved down into the blockchain rabbit hole.
And I realized it was perfect for me.
In the two years, the reason I felt like we didn't have a lot of success was I was pretending to be a music manager when that, in fact, wasn't who I was.
I was always a nerdy kid, a tech person, a numbers guy, a numbers analytics science person.
Math was my strong suit, not creative writing or anything like that or music or anything in that liberal arts sphere.
So when I started to hang out around Django and help him promote his music, I realized I didn't have the musical credibility to promote his music because I myself didn't know what I was promoting in myself.
But then when I came down into the blockchain rabbit hole and started to dive down that, emerging technologies opened my mind to everything.
I've always been unbelievably interested in emerging technologies.
I've been a video game person my whole life.
I've been unbelievably interested with games to the point where that's how I got into the crypto industry in the first place, the NFT industry, a year and a half ago.
And I didn't even realize that I was in the blockchain world back then.
I talked to a close friend of mine the other day and I was mentioning NFTs and I didn't realize that he didn't realize that NFTs and blockchain were the same technology.
He just had no idea.
And I think one of the things that I've realized in the Web3 world is a lot of people are stuck in the echo chamber of crypto Twitter or just crypto people in general.
And I found myself relating a lot more to the outside world than the crypto people in a sense.
And I found that to be my superpower coming into 2023 where I kind of got to come in with a completely different perspective.
But I love the technology and I love learning more about it.
So for me, I realized that one thing I wanted to do and one thing I was good at was being able to take the complicated parts of everything there is to do with crypto and make it into small bite-sized pieces of information for musicians.
Specifically, I realized that was my niche.
That was what I was going to do.
So I got really interested in getting involved with the music and tech industry and not just the music industry.
And from there, everything flourished.
I am working currently on my 14th newsletter.
I started about 16, 17 weeks ago and I've been sending almost weekly newsletters.
And it's just been an amazing opportunity for me to, A, become a better newsletter writer and content creator, but then also promote individuals and empower other musicians.
So I've found that I can take some of the noise that's there with crypto, blockchain and AI and whittle it down into easy to understand bits for musicians, musicians that on their day-to-day life spend no time in the industry and could maybe use an AI this or a blockchain no-code that to create a smart contract, whatever it may be.
But I realized they didn't need to, if you look at it as an analogy to a car, they didn't need to be a car mechanic.
They didn't need to know how every little piece ran and worked and how every transaction links to a block or whatever it may be.
They just want to drive the car.
They just want to release an NFT project.
They just want to do this, do that, because that's what they're good at.
And the biggest thing I realized was that once you find your strengths, you also learn your weaknesses.
And if you find people that have similar strengths to your weaknesses, you're literally unstoppable because no one person is perfect at anything.
You need to find people that you can trust and rely on that are collaborative, that are good at the things you're bad at.
That's what makes a good team.
So that's kind of where I've come to, where I've come from.
And I've been basically just absorbing information, helping people, learning, trying to put some capital into the industry and support different artists and creators.
And now I think I'm at my point where I can create something and I have an idea and a vision and something I'm working with a team of 10 or 12 people right now on, which is going to be a sort of collaborative collective where we're all going to make it a mindset similar to a community of communities, actually.
And I would love to have a one on one with you in the future about this.
In fact, I would love to include you in on some of that creation because I think the opportunity here is unbelievable.
And I just am blessed with all the information that I've been given that I feel like I can redistribute a lot of information in different ways.
So I'd love to talk about that more if you guys are interested or anything I just talked about.
Thank you for letting me, you know, sputter on and on and on.
Not a problem.
We always appreciate it and we love to hear it.
Honestly, that's exactly why we're all here.
You know, super passionate.
I want to, you know, do our thing and make a difference.
Yeah, 100 percent.
We'll set up a conversation a million percent.
That sounds incredible.
And thank you for even having us in your mind to, you know, get us involved.
We'd love that.
That'd be great.
Louis had his hand up for a little bit.
I don't know if it's connected to what you were saying, but I know we're trying to catch him earlier.
It's his birthday and he's ultra busy.
So, Louis, fire away, brother.
Thank you for being so patient.
Nah, dude.
Thank you for being patient with me, man.
I'm standing at the ATM now.
I literally ran into a friend from high school who I haven't seen in 20 years.
And I was like, no way.
I'm doing this while I'm on a space.
So, I was like, I got to pay attention to what's happening.
I can't.
And I had to mute.
But anyway, yeah, man.
No, I appreciate you.
I feel like it would behoove me to come in here and start talking about myself after what my boy was saying.
And I do agree very much so in terms of just like the spirit of learning has a lot to do with, although it's the technical acquiring of knowledge,
it really has a lot to do with letting go and relinquishing the ability to be the need for the center or attain the center of attention and just accept the environment around you.
But anyway, we do it like this.
We do it real quick.
My name is Louis C. Ryan.
I'm the NFT rapper, a.k.a.
NF Trapper.
Mr. Camacho.
Bye, day.
Web3 Apostle.
Bye, night.
I am always out here.
I am working.
Today is my birthday.
And I'm on my way in Harlem to a get-together with the first class of students that I have ever taught.
My wife and I were lucky enough to keep in touch with them through the years.
And they are now 24 years old.
And I'm going to meet them at a restaurant.
And I can't wait.
I'm literally kind of trembling about it, to be honest.
I brought some surprise videos of them when they were all kids.
And this is one of the beauties of a baby teaching babies, right?
I was 21 when I met them.
Now I'm 35.
But this is one of the beauties, in my opinion, of the education system allowing me to start so early.
Because I love these kids.
And now they're old.
And I can't wait to see them interact like adults and shit.
It's going to be wild.
But, yeah, we're doing it.
And, yeah, I got a release.
I always got releases.
Every single day I spit bars in my car.
For those of you who don't know, there's car bars every morning.
Every single work day, business day, folks.
I like to honor the school year calendar.
And, yeah, for those of you who didn't know, crypto is an act of defiance.
Most rap to attack their desires.
Hold back because they know that.
They can get the most cash sign of the lack of compliance.
Spotify got them by yelling they bug.
Paying them pennies while they get it all.
Ripping their fathers, controlling them and charging them when they work the hardest to benefit y'all.
Bank to the fuck you.
Got gaffin' the tank when I come through.
Chain gang for the hang and they bump blue.
Rage to the sun blue.
Thanks for the love too.
I spit and they bang like a gun do.
At Bitcoin changing the mudroom.
And the establishment, some real rap shit.
I really value it.
It's non-fungible.
It's Louie, baby.
This is how we do it in New York City.
Tap in with me every morning.
And if you guys can, man, it's free to retweet.
It's free to pre-save.
Do that on this tweet I'm going to share.
And if you really want to support your boy, go mid to hip-hop and join my community.
Love you all.
Let's go.
Love it.
Thank you, bro.
Love the energy.
Love what you're doing.
And it's such a great reward on your birthday to go and meet the first ever class you was ever teaching.
It's just incredible.
And I love the fact that you're a teacher as well because, you know, the world is in absolute need of teachers like you.
People are so strong-minded and open-eyed as well.
You know, it's really important.
And it's great that you're doing so well because it's just so refreshing to see that.
We all need to see the right people win.
And when we're watching you doing your thing, we're seeing that in real time.
So super excited.
Yes, please pin something to the top.
You're allowed to speak about yourself on your birthday when you spend all of your time speaking on behalf of everybody else.
So anytime you want to speak about yourself, best believe you are welcome.
Fight anyone that says otherwise.
Otherwise, it's a very special thing to have a place where you feel like you belong all the time.
And I don't say that to blow smoke up your ass.
I'm being honest.
You guys do make me feel like I have a place that I want to be, like that you want to hear from me all the time.
It doesn't make me feel like I'm bombarding you or asking for fucking likes, you know.
We don't even know at the end of the day.
We know what it is to spread it and get it out there.
We've got to support each other.
So if there's anybody in the room I could support, reach out, let me know.
And I got you.
So love you all.
But I think I'm going to chill and listen for another minute.
And then I'm going to dip into this restaurant and be out.
Maybe if I can grab one picture just to remember the moment and be hyped as fuck.
Hey, Louie, before you head out, I'd love to wake up with you one-on-one because my artist is actually based in Harlem, my rapper.
And we're very much getting into the Web3 scene right now.
And I think he would learn a lot, even just in that intro that you gave, he would learn a lot from you.
And I would really appreciate if, yeah, we could set up that meeting.
That'd be sick.
Yeah, bro.
Hit me in the DMs.
I got you.
I'm down to support however I can, like I said.
I'd appreciate you.
Actually, a homie is in the listeners right now.
So I will just set up a group chat.
Right on.
Right on, brother.
All right.
Appreciate you.
No problem.
That's Louie, baby.
Yeah, one more time.
One more time for the motherfucking microphone.
It's Louie, baby.
I love you all.
Peace out.
Enjoy your time, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah, thank you, Mike, for bringing him into our world.
You absolute legend.
You brought so many absolute icons in that are so iconic that the bridge between is always lost.
But no, big love, Mike, honestly.
Louie's a legend.
No, it's just like Zola was saying.
You know, it's not about us.
It's about everyone.
And Louie did his own thing.
I just became a fan.
And I'm like, you know, bringing him around to places where I think would add value to him and the people around.
Same.
Like with Trey inviting him to this space, he's doing the same thing.
Like Louie's the one that deserves the credit.
And, you know, it's just like inviting a friend to a party.
You know what I mean?
Come to the party, bro.
People that are going to like you will be there.
You know, that's pretty much all the credit that I'm taking from the matter.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm blessed to be able to have people like Louie and people like Zol and you, you know, and Jose down.
Below, who is an incredible musician, wonderful human being, also has his first NFT album coming out.
You know, he has a lot to offer this conversation as well.
You know, I'm more than happy to invite more people up and just spread the love.
You know what I mean?
Absolutely.
I nearly swore then.
Louie's got me all hyped up.
No, I completely agree.
But at the same time, you know, it's definitely a, you know, a multi-person transaction to get these things to happen the way they do.
And you're always trying to add value everywhere you go.
But you're also putting people in places where they feel valued, like Louie just said, which nothing makes us feel happier than to hear someone feels at home in our presence.
That is an absolute gift on its own.
And you're always putting people in places where they feel valued.
And I can't imagine anything that would mean more to someone than being put in a place where people care about them.
So, yeah, I just wanted to point that out because it's not something someone will say on their own.
Because I know that you're on that path because of how much value you've given me and how much you've helped me.
And I know this space isn't about that.
But, yeah, so I can speak from first-hand experience.
But we would love to definitely get Jose up.
Absolutely.
If you don't or can't come up, that's fine.
Please DM me a post you would like me to pin that showcases your first NFT.
I think I've got the one that I think Mike became the seventh holder of your NFT music.
So I'll find that and I'll pin that at the top so that people can also go and check out your music and show some support.
So shout out for that, for mentioning that as well, Mike.
But, yes, anyone that's making music in Web3 or has anything to add to the conversation around NFT music,
please request to come up and we'll get you up on stage and we'll speak to you, no problem.
But, yeah, no, a nice one.
But, yeah, Zal, if you want to dive back in, my friend,
and if you want to talk more about what it is that you're working on at the minute, that would be amazing.
I think this would be a wise time to get my homie Django up if he's around and Smoke Wavy.
They're two of the dopest artists that I know and two of the reasons that I'm here today doing this.
And while we're waiting, why don't we play the rest of that song?
It's called Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
I'll go back a little bit so we get a little more of that intro.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
Sunrider and it's going to be coming out January 31st, I believe.
You know, actually, I'm sure my homie over there, MetaBuilders Mike knows the answer. So maybe we'll find a cooler place to be able to listen to live music, something like that than Twitter spaces.
Would love to get some more feedback on audio stuff like that. So yeah, that's going to be Sunrider coming out in about a month here.
And then also during that time, I dropped a little bit of Alpha. This is going to be the collaborative collective. It's going to be called the Zao, Z-A-O, Z Talent Artist Organization.
And Django actually has his first planned show coming on 2-14 Valentine's Day in New York City. So if anyone is around and or wants to help sell tickets and or wants to help out with anything and everything, hit either of us up because we would love any and all help.
Because collaboration is the best way to learn, in my opinion, because you learn from hearing other people's perspectives and really diving in and getting in their shoes.
So yeah, that's a little bit of the beginning of 2024. And I'm very excited to talk a little bit more about that or some of the other plans we have for 2024 or even dish it over to my homie Django if he wants to add a little bit of flavor.
Absolutely. That was amazing. It sounded good enough to hear, definitely. But yeah, better setup will make it sound even better, I'm sure. But no, thank you, bro. I appreciate that.
But yeah, Django is in the building. He's on the stage. Welcome, my friend. How are we doing?
And thank you for joining us.
Yes, no. Can you hear me?
Yes, we can hear you now, my friend. Welcome.
Hi, everybody. Currently, I'm actually doing laundry in my building's basement. So the audio quality, please forgive me if it is not up to par.
But this is Django UU or Django W, as people know me. Either one is fine.
I'm an artist. I'm born and raised in Harlem. Went to college in Rochester. That's where I met Zal.
Went to Rochester Institute of Technology.
And from there, like, you know, he helped me with my first show for my first release. It was like a release party back in 2020, three weeks before COVID.
So, yeah, I think it's the timing. But since then, it's been like we've been like the dynamic duo, especially like the start really like really taking off starting like 2021 when we started, you know, moving about the country and the East Coast and whatnot, meeting producers, meeting other artists and things of that nature.
And Zal's been way deeper into the Web3 world than I am. But honestly, I'm grateful for that because thanks to him and his knowledge, his expertise, you know, we buy really do some stuff in this Web3 realm of 2024, starting with the Sunrider drop.
So, just looking forward to, you know, people, you know, us, we are running it up, you know, we're going to mint some stuff. It's going to be free.
So, we're just giving them away to people just so people can like have them and be like, yo, like, this is like there's more to come, but it's just the beginning. So, thank you.
You are absolutely welcome. And no, that's incredible. It's great when you find someone that you can collaborate with and just, you know, build on that hype and that energy and that, you know, the inspiration.
It's a really exciting time to, you know, really make moves when you're with the right people because once you can, you know, build your empire with someone that, like Zal was saying before, you know, when you strengthen weaknesses align the way they do, then it's a game changer.
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. When the strengths and weaknesses align, at that point, there are no weaknesses because everyone covers each other's bases, honestly.
Yeah, that's great. So, you said you had a song coming out soon. Are you able to dive into that a little bit and just tell us when the date is, just reconfirm it and Ozol said it?
Absolutely.
And just a bit of an introduction around the song because I imagine there's, you know, there's meaning to it and there's a story behind it.
So, that'd be awesome if we could get a bit of a deep dive on that.
Well, absolutely. So, Sunrider by Django UU and produced by Sapjer, a Dutch producer from the Netherlands.
Crazy producer. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. I don't know what kind of things they do over there in the Netherlands, but whatever they're doing over there, the music, the production, the sounds from them are absolutely incredible.
And Sapjer and I are kind of like another, you know, stars aligning kind of moment because I was looking for beats like his about two years ago, actually.
And maybe a little more about maybe two and a half years ago now and couldn't really find anything.
My friends, I love my friends who are producers, like, you know, shout out my boy Chase Monica.
Shout out my boy Ravi. You know, great people, great music, great producers.
Connor Chase, Chase himself. His name is Connor.
Great singer, great singer as well. But definitely, like, they just weren't really on the lane that Sapjer is tapped into.
And so, when I found him through one of my favorite artists, like I listened to, Big Baby Gucci, I was like, yo, I need to find who made these beats.
So, I filled up the IG. Then I built a connection with him.
And we just started talking because we had common interests in, like, electronic music and things of that nature.
And then eventually, he just started sending me beat packs in January 2022.
And this one, this one I actually didn't get in the beat pack.
This one I got kind of rummaging through his beat site.
He has, like, a beat stars, right?
And I just remember I heard it on my birthday.
I was turning 23.
And it was probably the best birthday present I could have ever received.
Like, I heard it. It was instant love.
It just made me, it made my spirit soar.
I actually remember when Django texted me, he literally was, like, spamming me, telling me he found this new way and this new method and this new wave.
So, like, 100%, what he's saying right there, he literally instantly fell in love with it and immediately texted me.
It was like, you know, we got this.
This is going to be a banger.
I already got this song already thought up in my head.
So, really exciting to see that energy.
It was crazy, man.
Like, I spam text us all.
I was, like, I lived with roommates at the time.
I was, like, banging on their doors.
I'm, like, bro, you got to hear this.
Like, you know, some of my roommates were pretty excited about it.
Other ones, I mean, she didn't really get it, but I can't really blame her.
She played folk music, talented folk musician, too.
Shout out, Laura G.
But, in case people are interested, Laura G, Banjo Girl 420, if you're interested.
But, yeah, I was freaking out about the beat, and I just heard the whole song, but I was, like, okay, I need to kind of get my thoughts together and kind of put it all together.
So, I took a walk in the park, mumbled some ideas on my auto-tune app on my phone, came back, wrote lyrics to the mumbled melodies, and then that's kind of how the first draft of Sunrider came through.
And then I rewrote it a couple times.
I was trying to refine what I had because, basically, a lot of the lines were about my grandmother who kind of taught me how to move through life with, like, a certain zeal, a certain, like, tenacity, like, literally drive.
Like I said, to the flow, now pedal flow down, you know, all that stuff.
And it's just, like, my grandma was always, like, if you're going to go and do something in life, like, don't, like, walk to it.
Like, you could if you wanted to, but, like, why?
You know, like, just run, sprint, drive to it, fly to it.
Like, get there.
Like, get it.
Because it may not necessarily be there forever, you know?
You may, things in your situation may change.
Your mindset toward things.
Or maybe you might even just want something different.
So, like, you might as well go and try to get what you want while you want it, you know?
And it's kind of like chasing a high, if you will, chasing a euphoria.
That's kind of what Sunrider is about.
And, I mean, production-wise, like, Satjar killed it because it was, like, completely unique.
I've never heard a beat like it.
I've only ever, only because I've ever heard like it were other beats he's made, you know?
And so, I'm a big fan of the industrial sound.
You know, I love Yeezus by Kanye West.
I'm not crazy about Deckard's, but I like some of the songs for sure.
Like, there's some dope Deckard's songs.
Sad Out Tachyon, amazing song.
So, obviously, and I like some of, you know, the auto-tune and the melodic riffing and all that stuff.
You know, one of my favorite artists is Travis Scott and Big Baby Gucci, who's also an auto-tune crooner, if you will.
I have a couple other influences as far as that kind of slain and style and sound.
But, really, for me, it's just, like, even through all the vocal effects and whatnot, like, I just know, like, the message with this song and, like, my own, the actual, my own qualities of my own voice, like, the textures, the resonance, the timbre of it.
Like, I know it's just something different.
You know, like, I genuinely believe, like, you'd be hard-pressed to find something genuinely comparable.
Like, and just from there, man, like, I've been mixing it last couple, like, six-ish months.
Like, kind of like a hyper-focus, like, on and off, though.
Not, like, every day straight.
But just definitely trying to get it really, really taking it, you know, out of this world.
Because that's kind of what this song is.
Like, it's got another worldly, ethereal type of feeling.
And so, I'm really trying to bring that out in the mix, as I did in the vocals, you know, in the delivery, in the cadence, in the energy.
Just something that you can really feel and you can really breathe to, you know.
You can really, like, you feel the pulse of it.
It makes you kind of want to move, do something, get your life together, all those things, you know.
So, yeah, man, that Sunrider is going to be part of an EP that I'm calling the Synth Rock concept.
And that's going to be dropping sometime in April or maybe May.
And I'm not really sure on a date yet.
Honestly, I just wanted to record, like, one or two songs for it.
But, yeah, for Sunrider, this is coming out January 31st on all platforms.
We're going to have some NMTs ready to go for people in the Mint for free.
And it's going to be a whole vibe, man.
This is 2024 Django, man.
It's a new era.
This is, like, the music that I wanted to make from the very beginning.
That aggression, that hype, just the pure, just, like, unfiltered, unbrittled, like, chaos, if you will.
And that's what we got with Sunrider, yo.
Let's go.
I love that.
And although it may be chaos, it makes complete sense to you.
And I've always loved that about music, especially, you know, especially rap music, because it's got a story and everything's got a meaning.
And once you start to learn about an artist and you start to really understand them and their lifestyle and where they came from, the songs have a whole different meaning.
And it's exciting that you're going to, you know, give that out to the world.
And then the people who support and follow you will get to sort of dive into that and learn about it and get to understand you on a deeper level.
And it's great to hear how passionate you sound as well and how motivated you are.
And it's great.
Nothing makes me happier than to hear someone who has direction, because now that you've got direction and focus and support around you, you've just got to keep consistent and keep putting your passion in front of everything else and everything will just happen.
And that's the truth, man.
Honestly, like that's that's really the truth, because with this thing, man, like I've been writing music since 2016, summer 2016.
So I'm approaching seven and a half years now started actually July 2016 when I was I was in an SAT prep course and I was really bored and I just figured and let me do something new.
I've never done this before.
So I tried to write a song in my SAT prep class.
It was trash and that kind of started my ever, you know, like, you know, my journey with, like, you know, battling myself, being my biggest critic as a musician.
You know, I've literally remade seven songs this year that I previously put out in previous years just because of a lack of confidence or belief in my own work and not valuing like the original ideas and executions that I did and not valuing the fact that it was early on.
And of course, I was bound to grow.
Of course, I was bound to change and develop and, you know, really blossom into the artists that I've become now.
But like, honestly, like this song was a testament to that, because like truthfully, like I rewrote the song, but like the song really didn't change much.
Like it really it really kind of is like in the very first demo of this, it sounded very similar to what we have here.
It sounded like the aura. I really try my damn best to really keep and maintain the magic that I've captured the first time.
And it took a lot. It took a lot. But it really what a song taught me, man, was, you know, like there's value sometimes in your first ideas when you hear things, your first creative endeavors.
There's value in these things. There's nothing wrong with, you know, your initial judgments on things, you know, and that's just creatively.
I'm not talking about any other thing. I can't speak on that.
But creatively, if you hear something or you've got something in your head and you've got an idea for it and then like, you know, you make the idea come alive and then you want to change it.
You only want to change it because ideas always sound better as ideas. The moment you make them tangible, they seem less mystical.
They seem less awe inspiring because it's right there in front of you, you know, but you got to remember as an artist and for people who are artists in the room, man, like it's not like just because it's right in front of you and it's dead in front of you doesn't mean the idea was bad.
It doesn't mean any of that, you know, like it doesn't mean that the idea was flawed or there's something wrong with you or you're not good enough or any of that stuff, you know, like you just had an idea and you went to go and get it and then you got it, you know, there are a lot of people who they'll have an idea and they won't go and get it.
You know, I think society at large kind of conditions people to lose that side of them, to it strips them of that side of them, you know.
Absolutely. And this is, you know, why there's so much power in the environment that we're trying to create together is to enable that, you know, inner creativity to come out because we all have it.
And that's why I appreciate why I asked you about your first song and the story behind it, because all of you is in all of the things that you're writing because it came from inside of you and now it's coming outside of you and your perspective is changing.
And although the song never changed when you redid it slightly, you did.
And I think that that's where the power and the magic behind the music really is, is that because like you just said, you know, what I learned from that song, like you're learning from your own words and your own creativity because we don't know what our potential is or how deep our creativity goes until we actually put it out there.
And I think that is so inspiring. And the fact that it's even scientifically proven that our bodies will change to accommodate the people we want to become, if you put your mind to becoming that person, should tell everyone everything about the magic that's inside of what we're doing.
And so when it comes to music and what artists do, the reason it really resonates with me personally is because those words and those thoughts are coming from inside of you and your perspective.
And I think it's great when no, you know, no two perspectives are going to be the same, you know, and it's the same as when you're on about the confidence.
I'm glad that you found the confidence because your perspective of you and somebody else's perspective of you are two completely different people.
And that even goes to all of the people in your life that love you as well.
You know, your version of you and your parents' version of you are two completely different people.
So we don't need to worry about what anyone else's perspective is.
And I like the fact that you've also got the mindset of instead of things happening to you, they're happening for you.
And it's just a case of finding the right perspective that enables you to see why things are happening in your life to serve you or benefit you.
And it's great that you're putting that into your music as well.
I hope that made sense because it made sense to me.
No, no. See, see, see, see, this is what I'm talking about.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
See, you had an idea and you made the idea like tangible, you know, through language.
Right. And then the moment you put it out there, you started sleeping on yourself.
You started doubting it. You're like, I don't know if this makes sense.
I hope it makes sense. Don't hope.
This is what I'm saying. Like, like literally like it's you had the right idea.
Once again, just because it's out there and it seems less magical now don't mean that it's that you are any less valid.
I think you made perfect sense, you know, like truthfully, I think you made perfect fucking sense.
Like and it's just like, no, I mean, like, but we all battle this, you know, because truthfully, we're all creators, you know,
like it doesn't matter if you if you create money for other people's bank accounts because you're a financial guy or you create like houses because you're a carpenter or you create fucking like, you know,
cures because you're you're a doctor or something and you work at some crazy laboratory.
You just discovered to cure the cancer or whatnot.
Like, you know, like we all create in some way, you know, like I think I don't really mean to get like to spiritual or religious or anything.
But like whatever you believe in God, universe, Allah, Buddha, whatever the fuck you believe in, man, like we all got that higher power in us,
because if they say the higher power has the ability to create, well, we do this shit every fucking day.
You know, we create life. We create debt. We created taxes. We created the washing machine.
Like how much like everything around you, someone created, you know, so like clearly like our creations have value.
I'm sure the idea of a table seemed way more magical way back when, when we didn't have tables to compare it to when the dude or the woman or whoever the fuck finally made the table.
You know, he's like, oh, it's just like a wooden plank with four planks holding up the big plank.
Like that doesn't seem as cool as it was in my mind, but it's still valuable.
So, you know, like this is a something this is something we use every day.
You know, we eat dinner on this. We fold clothes on this. We write stories on this.
You know, like like think about how instrumental the table is and like, you know, that had to be created, you know, and I'm sure that whoever made the table,
they probably went through the same things, you know, um, feeling like it wasn't good enough or it had to be modified or so this, that and the third.
But the idea was valid and that's why it stood the test of time.
And that's just all it is. That's really all it is, man.
Like you just gotta be free, you know, like, like be free to create and then be like, it's good because it is because it came from you.
You know, it can't be bad if it came from you, you know, um,
Absolutely. And you're so right, especially when it comes to, you know, create, we are creators and our life and everything we say should, it should stand testament to that.
And, you know, someone once said to me that the best way to predict the future is to create it.
And that really resonated with me, especially when you're on a journey of we're all here to create our future and we all know what our future looks like because we envision it.
We see it every day. We're manifesting it in real time. Um, and yeah, and when it comes down to, uh, I, I, I, I appreciate your, your view of, you know, dependent on what people's perspective is when it comes to spiritual.
I'm a very spiritual person, but from a, you know, not, not particularly how it's described to us in a Bible or that type of thing.
But I believe in there is a greater force of this universe and that there is more than what meets the eye, you know?
So it's great that that that's how deep that this runs inside of you, because that's where the real creativity comes from is knowing that there is so much more power inside of you than you are ever educated at school.
And that's the environment that we need to create so that people feel safe to be able to bring that out because you're bringing out the most inner depths of yourself.
So to do that and expose yourself to that level of intensity requires so much courage.
And it, it takes being around the right people and being in the right environment, because if you're not valued, it's not you that's the problem.
It's your environment. And when you find your right environment, people will value you and nothing changed other than the environment that you was in, which means the value was always, was always there.
Exactly. The value. So I'm going to be honest, man, I learned this from an OG, man.
The truth is inside you. That's what he told me. The truth is always inside you, you know?
And if you're, I'm going to be honest, I'll even go as far to say it myself as someone who's experienced this myself and has actually even currently experienced it right now.
So if you're in an environment where like, you know, it's like not good for you, you know, let's throw out the buzzwords, toxic, narcissistic, blah, blah, blah.
You know, all those things in the environment, it's like that towards you. Chances are you're there because you want to be there.
You know, like your chances are you're there because you believe you don't deserve better.
Um, you know, people, people are so good at giving themselves Stockholm syndrome, like so incredibly good at it, like so good at it.
They, they like their subconscious just like kind of runs it for them, you know?
And then they just don't even, they can't even consciously see it.
And, you know, I've, I've been in this situation so many times.
Anxiety really can't even fucking count, um, you know, and I think you can get better at, you know, navigating around it.
Right. Um, which is why I think it's a great point that you brought up.
You know, the best way to predict the future is to kind of, um, what's the word?
Create it.
Exactly. Create it, you know?
And honestly, I lost my point, but, but the point is.
Yeah, but you're absolutely, you're, you're, you're, you're, although you lost your point, I totally get where you're going with it.
And it's so true.
And this is so relevant to everything that we're trying to achieve.
And it's important that we hold on to this because this is what fuels us to keep moving forward.
Because if we can't see it or feel it, it's nothing.
Exactly.
This is, this is everything.
And the only way we can show people is if they experience it.
I remember my point now.
Yeah.
Because you just helped me.
You definitely just helped me.
So basically bringing this back to the Web3 realm and, um, music in 2023 as a whole, um, especially if you look at, um, from the perspective of like, how's the mainstream doing right?
Um, you know, Latin music is up.
Country music is up.
Rock music is up.
Um, Afro beats is up.
Hip hop is down.
Um, traditional pop music as the way we know it is down.
Um, the five biggest stars in music that have come out in like the last three years that I can think of are Olivia Rodrigo, who's pop.
Um, Ice Spice, who's hip hop.
And I'm going to say like Bad Bunny.
Um, even though Bad Bunny has been valid for like literally, like Bad Bunny, I think has been in the game for like almost 12 years now.
But don't hold, don't quote me on that.
Um, if we want to do like a newer person, then, um, you could say Yeet, um, the rapper from Oregon.
Right.
Um, yeah, man, like it's just like culturally, man, like people want new stuff, but a lot of the artists trapped in these mainstream major label, um, infrastructures.
They, they're scared.
You know, the labels don't even want to take risks on new artists with inventive sounds and things like that.
Because right now, the big thing is appealing to the algorithm and appealing to, you know, people's subconsciousness and whatnot.
And, you know, a lot of artists might have these sounds that are really inventive and wild and new.
And, you know, I got a bunch of friends like that, man.
Like shout out my boy Slouch, local New York rapper.
Dope, dope, dope kid.
Shout out Morgan Gold from Chicago.
Shout out Armani Jordan.
Lil T in Texas.
Um, Handsome Price.
Like there's a lot of Smeb.
Um, the Nate Serk.
Like there's a lot of dope artists out there that, you know, have these crazy sounds and magnificent skill musically.
But like, it's hard.
These labels aren't going to necessarily take risks on artists like that because, you know, you got to appeal to algorithm.
You got to appeal to, you know, already established fan bases.
You got to meet certain metrics.
You got to have only positive praise.
You got to get on these streamers like Kai Sanat and Aiden Ross's and Duke Dennis's platforms.
You know, you got to do stuff like that.
But with Web3, what's beautiful is that you don't need that.
You know, you can build your whole fan base, your whole culture, your identity in Web3.
You can have your own brand.
When it comes to Web3.
We are the algorithm.
Exactly.
We're direct to consumer right now.
You know, we're straight to the point.
We're not, you know, dancing through five middlemen, the five middlemen being Spotify playlist curators, some random guy on radio, some guy on a Jimmy Fallon show who does all the music, some guy for the next five AAA movies and some other nonsense.
You know, like, and all of that.
And then you also need to call fan base.
You ain't got to worry about, you know, trying to be, you know, a Playboy Cardi.
You know, although I do think every artist should try and aspire to have that type of fan base because Cardi could literally drop a song of him farting and it'll still sell like hotcakes.
You know, and I think every artist to some degree would love to have that type of experience, you know, so I'm not going to say we shouldn't strive for these things.
But with Web3, you aren't so dependent on the major label system that has worked for literally only a handful of artists, you know, in what, 80, 90 years.
Like, I think genuinely there's probably about 250, 300 artists, maybe, who have genuinely benefited from the whole major label industry system and, like, you know, still own their masters, are still able to put out music, still want to put out music, you know, because that's another thing.
Like, the industry system, man, like, it seems like it kills the creative vibe, you know, it kills people's willingness to, like, make good stuff.
You know, you hear about people falling off all the time in all genres.
You know, I'm only going to speak on hip-hop because that's my main genre.
But, man, it's kind of sad.
It's sad, you know.
And what I love about hip-hop specifically is it's a culture and it brings in everyone.
It's not just about the music.
It's about the dancing.
It's about the clothing.
It's about the artwork.
And that's what Web3 is.
It's a culture.
And it will only remain for the people, by the people, if we keep it that way.
But I just want to get, just to welcome you and also because you've got your hand up as well.
So, welcome, Jose.
Thank you for joining us.
And, again, shout out to Mike for making the connection.
Welcome.
Jose.
Hello, guys.
Do you hear me?
Yes, sir.
Woo.
Merry Christmas, everybody.
We're just ahead of 2024.
And I got really hyped by the community, by, you know, these dates.
I don't know.
I just took all the emotions and energy and I decided to meet my first song, which is No Winter's Land.
Already, the friends already pinned a tweet of mine with the song above.
I was wanting to share the song anyway here, live.
So, it's a bilingual song.
It's a song that's born on Web3.
I am a Web3 native.
I believe I'm here since 2017, just that this is my first NFT.
I was working into other type, like, of format, especially the digital street music is what I like to do over Discord.
So, well, happy to share my songs here.
We'll be right back.
We are the farmers of No Winter's Land
We are the farmers of No Winter's Land
We are the farmers of No Winter's Land
Lightning in the Fire of No Winter's Land
We are the farmers of No Winter's Land
Aquí estamos los sembradores, cuidadores de la tierra, donde el invierno no existe, se derretirán tus penas, transmitiendo todo el fuego, que se encuentra en las semillas de la unión.
Aquí estamos los sembradores, cuidadores de la tierra, donde el invierno no existe, se derretirán tus penas, transmitiendo todo el fuego, que se encuentra en las semillas de la unión.
Tenemos las semillas corazón, vamos levantando una oración, que las disponga a germinar, semillas para el despertar.
Tenemos las semillas corazón, vamos levantando una oración, que las disponga a germinar.
Sonido para el despertar, sonido para el despertar.
Sonido para el despertar, sonido para el despertar.
We are the farmers of our winter's land, sending the fire of love.
Viene el sol radiante desterrando oscuridad, el invierno solo existe para agradecer al sol.
Cierra el círculo, disfruta de la orquesta de la vida y el calor.
Viene el sol radiante desterrando oscuridad, el invierno solo existe para agradecer al sol.
Cierra el círculo, disfruta de la orquesta de la magia y el calor.
Cierra el círculo, disfruta de la orquesta del cacao y el sabor.
Cierra el círculo, disfruta de la orquesta del yopito y la piscina.
Tenemos la semilla corazón, vamos levantando una oración, que las disponga a germinar.
Semillas para el despertar, que tenemos la semilla corazón,
We are going to raise a prayer that will let you go to germinate.
Sonido para el despertar.
Sonido para el despertar.
Sonido para el despertar.
Sonido para el despertar.
Aquí estamos los semradores.
Cuidadores de la tierra.
Transmitiendo todo el fuego que se encuentra en las semillas de la unión.
Gracias por el espacio para compartir la música.
¡Qué bueno!
I always love hearing you play Jose and I appreciate you sharing that.
And I just wanted to say real quick that Jose has been grinding, like you said, since 2017.
And he just now put his first album out there.
And, of course, I'm going to support and I love hearing you play.
I even asked you a long time ago, like, hey, win NFT.
You're like, just shut up and come and listen to me play.
Like, you can come listen for free.
Just come listen.
So, I love the fact that you finally got an NFT and anybody who wants to support somebody who's literally been here, you know, since the beginning putting in the work.
And I definitely would suggest at least claiming the free version, but if not buying one of his NFTs because he's got a big group of people supporting him for a good reason.
So, thank you everyone for allowing him to play as well because I appreciate that.
Yeah, well said.
And that was absolutely incredible, by the way, Jose.
Phenomenal.
I absolutely love that.
And I'm so glad that you're in Web3 as well.
And that gives you the opportunity to, you know, really take this to the next level.
Well, no, everything.
I just vibe with everything that you just said there, Mike, because that is absolutely on point.
That was incredible.
Zal, you've got your hand up, sir.
I just wanted to say this is my time to go.
I appreciate all of the time.
This was amazing for me because I didn't have to just talk about myself.
And I was able to have my artist speak his truth.
And that's why I'm here really to get him in a space to do that.
So, I loved your guys' conversation.
Jose, I love your music right there.
I'll definitely have to check it out.
Really appreciate everyone for taking this time and listening in to me.
Thank you, Nessa, for being here.
You know, you're always, you know, you're always commenting on my GM posts.
I appreciate that.
Thank you, Trey.
You're a Boston legend.
So, I love that.
Thank you, Daniel.
You did an interview today for David, who are both here, which is awesome.
So, that's going to be probably going out today, tomorrow, or on the first.
Lemon, absolute legend.
He let me stay at his place in Miami.
Oh, Najee, you already know we're doing big things.
RoseCityWeb3.
Not sure if that's Metamute behind the account, but homie is a homie.
And everyone else that's on the speaker stage, just want to say I appreciate you all.
If any and everyone could join my Discord and help us grow, that would be amazing.
It's pinned up to the top.
And yeah, feel free to add any and all questions and anything.
And yeah, here to help listen and provide value wherever I can.
So, if there's anything I can do for any one of you guys, feel free to hit me up.
I'm almost always available, and I love doing voice calls.
But I appreciate everyone's time.
Yeah, thank you.
Cheers, man.
Yeah.
I appreciate you coming to chat with us all.
Like, you've been around for a little bit.
And like Riff said, you know, as soon as you sort of join the community,
you start providing value straight away.
And, you know, that's the sort of thing that gets noted, you know?
Yeah, well said, Bacon.
I couldn't agree more to that.
And yeah, no, Zoll, thank you so much for joining us and always adding value.
And, you know, when Zoll says if he can give anything back, he definitely means it.
100%, we can speak from experience there.
So, yeah, I know you've got a go, Zoll.
So, thank you for coming and, you know, as always, showcasing other people.
And thank you for bringing Django as well.
You know, I really appreciate that.
And I'm looking forward to getting to know you more as well, Django.
I know you may not be leaving just yet, which is awesome.
You're cool to stay or go, whichever you choose.
But, you know, big shout out to Zoll for joining us tonight.
I just want to jump back.
Yeah, I'm still here.
I'm still here.
I'm not going anywhere.
Not yet.
Let's go.
Brilliant.
No, because I want to jump back to you in just a moment, if that's all right.
But I just wanted to jump back to that song, Jose, because that was incredible.
And, you know, I'm so grateful, we all are, that you came here to play that.
And I'm so glad that you're putting that out to the world.
So, if there's a backstory to that song you want to dive into, or if there's anything
else you want to highlight, you're more than welcome to do that.
You hear that, Jose?
Oh, fair enough.
Yeah, I might just be preoccupied this very moment, which is cool.
We can come back to you whenever you're ready.
It's a connection issue.
It looks like it says he's connecting.
Ah, right, okay.
It doesn't say that on my own.
Nice one, Mike.
Yes, someone has the hand up.
Smoke, fire away my friend.
Thank you for joining us.
Welcome to the stage.
Yeah.
Oh, if Jose got any final things he wants to add, he can go ahead too.
Yeah, I think he's having that connection issues.
Sorry, go on.
Carry on, Smoke.
Alright, yeah.
So, shout out my boy Django.
Shout out Zal.
I'm another one of the artists, I guess, from Z Talent.
So, I've been making music with Django for a while now.
And kind of my process is just, you know, I'm just like, I love music so much.
Like, I love hip hop and alternative trap.
And I've really been trying to curate, like, these cool sounds.
And just been sharing music with my friends, getting feedback and stuff like that.
But, you know, I've been really excited to do the New York show with Django as well.
So, if any of y'all are in NYC, definitely pull up.
It's going to be a great time.
Because, you know, we've got a couple songs together.
And I'm doing one or two of my own songs as well.
And we've got music dropping soon.
Two tracks, New York and Evil Spirits.
And it's going to be dropping before the concert.
And basically, the vibe is, you know, for New York, it's just kind of like an anthem about, I guess, New York State.
And if anybody from New York, like, you already know that the New York City energy is just crazy.
And it's also about, like, you know, just living in New York and the experience of that.
And, you know, Evil Spirits, that's something me and Django, we kind of put together.
It's been a minute now, but a little bit back.
But back in the days when we were really just, you know, going crashing house parties, getting lit and, you know, enjoying life.
But, yeah, that song's kind of got that vibe to it.
And I'm sure Django could speak on, like, his part of the song, too.
And, like, what he's got going on over there.
Oh, yo, yo.
Yo, Evil Spirits.
Oh, man.
You know what I'm saying?
We first made the first version of Evil Spirits made.
I think I just got back from visiting my mom in New York City.
And we were staying at Connor's crib.
Well, I was, at least.
Yeah.
Because I didn't have a house situation yet.
And Connor was Chase Monica.
Like, the singer, producer I mentioned before.
Great artist, great producer.
We all made the beat in the same room pretty much.
Just, like, cooked it up one day.
Came out of fire.
And then we ended up recording the first demo of the song, like, in Connor's house, in his living room.
And, yo, it sounded, like, terrible because, like, the ceilings were, like, literally six feet tall.
Like, it was, like, literally the smallest ceilings I've ever seen in any house ever.
But the songs came out, like, the vibe was just there.
Like, you know, we were really just spitting about, like, you know, what Smoke Baby was talking about, man.
The party, the crash in the parties, you know, me and these shorties, you know.
Like, doing the most, you know, flexing, like, looking fly, getting crossed up, you know, all that stuff.
You know, it's definitely a party anthem.
It's got, like, that bounce to it.
You know, it's got that knock to it.
And, honestly, it was funny making that song because, yo, Smoke, you remember when I was, like, wait, hold on a sec, bro.
You said this is a verse?
Nah, this is a chorus.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
Like, that was when, like, you know, like, me, like, the way I make music is just, like, kind of like how Django was saying about, like, you know, ideas.
Like, going with your first idea.
Like, I just freestyle.
Like, all of my music.
So, I kind of just freestyled that.
And then he was, like, wait, hold on.
Like, that's the chorus right there.
You know what I'm saying?
So, it's just, like, I love how we, like, curate, like, you know, like, freestyles, like, going off the top of our head.
And just, you know, like, stream of consciousness.
Like, it's always, like, brings that energy.
And you're, it's kind of like you're in the driver's seat while you're listening to it, you know?
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, it's that raw stuff, you know?
Like, it's just, like, honestly, like, you know, like, like I said, I had to learn this from my own music, man.
Like, remaking stuff, reproducing stuff, overproducing stuff, overprocessing, you know, sounds.
Like, you lose, you know, that original idea that was what excited you about this in the first place, you know?
And so, like, you know, seeing Smoke wavy, you know, being able to kind of just, like, you know, channel that so early on, you know?
And just, like, kind of really, like, stick to his ideas and be like, yeah, this is, like, this is good, you know?
Seeing that it came out of him and recognizing that there's value in it because it came out of him.
And also, byproduct of it, also being good, you know?
Like, it was a beautiful thing to see, man.
So, like, I'm excited to get these two joints out, you know, New York and Evil Spirits, man.
I'm going to be honest, I got a little special place in my heart for Evil Spirits, though.
I'm going to be very honest, man.
Like, literally, the song was so fire, bro.
Like, I was like, dude, I don't even need to do much on this, man.
You carried it.
Like, yeah.
Yeah, it's great when you can vibe like that as well because, like, first of all, I can hear you smiling when you're talking about it, which is just epic to hear, by the way.
But, yeah, you're absolutely on point with overproducing.
I think that's something that people don't speak about enough because people are always striving for perfection and overthinking things to a point where you look at where the music industry is taking vocals now.
You know, it almost, you know, with so much auto-tune, it almost sounds like AI now to a point where, you know, AI is pretty much making music on behalf of artists now.
When the raw versions are what people vibe with the most, you know, there's a reason why acoustic music just hits different.
So, I think preserving that authenticity in the originality of the music is just something you can't replicate, you know, because not to get all deep and whatever, but we are the most scarce asset on the planet.
So, keeping hold of your originality and keeping true to yourself through your music will be-
No, exactly.
Literally, exactly that.
Like, I don't know.
When I was younger, I used to look up funny things like, oh, what would Michael Jackson sound like with auto-tune?
And literally 11 out of 10 times, he sounded worse.
Like, he just sounded worse.
And, like, yeah, sure, this is literally, like, one of the greatest singers of, you know, the 80s and 90s and even before that.
So, really, like, the 60s to the 90s.
That's, like, a 30-year career of pretty much being, like, one of the best singers ever.
But, like, you know, you put the auto-tune on Michael Jackson, it's not hitting the same, you know?
The Weeknd, you know, modern-day artists, everyone knows Blind and Lights.
Everyone knows The Hills and Starboy, you know, the big hits.
But, like, to this day, his fans still believe his best projects are the first three mixtapes he put out.
House of Balloons, Echoes, and Thursdays, you know?
And I'm going to be honest, man, like, House of Balloons is the favorite for me.
But, like, there's not that much processing on his voice.
Like, he just sounds that good, you know?
Like, obviously, there's some auto-tune.
There's, you know, some other effects and whatnot for, like, aesthetic and vibe purposes, you know?
But, like, it's not, like, slathered to the point where it's rendered lifeless and there's no feeling to it anymore.
There's no soul.
There's no essence.
You know, you really want to maintain the essence at all points.
And that's why I love Smoke Waving, man, because, like, my man just knows how to do that.
Like, he's just really, really good at doing that.
You know, like, I remember when I was first recording him in my bedroom, like, I'm like,
Yo, why do you just sound, like, so, like, radio ready?
Like, his voice just sounds good to go on damn near any beat.
It makes no sense to me.
Like, I'm going to be honest.
I don't really appreciate it.
I don't have that.
Like, I don't really have that quality myself.
My thing is I can put the auto-tune on on Max and I'll still sound full of life because it's, like,
just the way I kind of rap is kind of off-the-chain, rambunctious, like, uncontrolled energy.
So, like, you know, I can kind of run with the auto-tune and, like, have it still sound
like a real person.
But, like, he doesn't even need it like that.
Like, he really doesn't.
Like, my man sounds, he's got, like, that Michael Jackson effect where, like, his voice
just sounds better raw sometimes, you know?
Yeah.
But, you know, like, I'm not going to lie.
Like, I definitely do like my effects to a certain extent.
Like, a lot of the music that, you know, like, alternative trap, like, it's really,
like, what I feel is, like, the blending of the human element with, like, a little bit
of, like, the effect or, like, the electronic, like, effect into it, like, infusing them
both.
It's like you're trying to homogenize it, you know?
It's like so that it contextually makes sense altogether.
No, but, like, the human element is the most important thing, really.
And, you know, there's a lot to be said about AI art and all that stuff because, like, at
the end of the day, it just, you know, like, there hasn't been, like, that human experience.
And I feel like all art, like, stems from the human experience.
So it's missing that component.
Yeah, I agree with that.
And I think there's a difference between someone having absolutely no talent and using AI to
change the fact and utilizing it to complement an already skilled individual.
There's a very big difference.
And I think people can tell that straight away, which, you know, it's a tool to be utilized
and it definitely plays its part.
So, you know, it all comes down to the artists and the artistic ear that they have.
So, no, that's great.
And I wanted to just, just to keep it, you know, Web3 music related, I just wanted to ask
you, you know, like, what's your journey into Web3 and, you know, what's your vision looking
like for someone that's never heard your music, has got no idea who you are, you know, like,
what is, what is, what is, and that's the question for both of you guys as well, you
know, like, what is your vision for, for your success?
You know, what are you aiming to achieve from, from what your life's gift, if you will?
Yeah.
So, like, I would say a big thing for, for me is being an independent artist, like not
going with a record label or anything like that, just having like the freedom of, of
choice, like in like how I want to drop my music, how I release it and the things I talk
about, because I feel like at a certain extent, like that could get seriously influenced and
kind of, you know, like be altered by, by, by that kind of environment.
So, like, I think with Web3, like I'm kind of a, I'm kind of new to this, like Zal has
kind of like put it forward and has been introducing this to me.
I was kind of like a middle adapter into crypto, but I've just kind of broken into the realm of
Web3 and everything like that. And, but I'm, I'm really looking at it as a, like a, a tool
to, for, for being an independent artist and being able to promote yourself and kind of
add fuel to like the artistic vision, you know?
Yeah.
You know, that makes perfect sense. And, uh, that's really exciting actually, because that
is, I, you know, that is the place to do it. In my opinion, you know, there's so many
ways in which you can utilize Web3 and I'm excited for you to discover that. And I think
it's just a place of creativity because there's just so much that can be done with it. But
it's great that you're looking at it from that perspective and wanting to be an independent
artist, because if you can break into the industry with that behind you, then, you know,
the rest is unlimited really, because, you know, people are looking at trying to come
into the industry through labels, which is, you know, near impossible. So I think coming
into the industry now and utilizing it in a way to help you be an independent artist, I
think it's definitely a good, a good opportunity for musicians. I can't agree with that anymore.
But no, no, thank you, Smoky. Appreciate that answer. So what's your answer, Django?
You know, what, how do you look into utilize Web3? What's your vision looking like?
Um, so the way I'm looking at how I would like to utilize Web3 is, um, my big thing very early
on into my career was events. Um, my original team, um, you know, beings all, of course, we
also had other people as well, right? My original team, we were all very much focused on like
real life. And, you know, stepping honestly, outside of like the online world, because truthfully,
none of us really knew how to like, really get Web2 to kind of look at us to pay attention
to us to have it work in our favor without, you know, you know, Snapchat, Instagram, these
other social media platforms trying to extract exuberant amounts of money, you know, to run
ads. So just so that you can have your account seen and whatnot. Um, that's kind of the big
thing I really didn't like about Web2. Um, and what I like about Web3 is that it completely
removes that you get all the data, you get all the access to these things. Um, and you're able
to essentially really connect these people on a deeper level. Um, one of my favorite things as an
artist is when a fan will DM me and whether it's like, they just love my music or maybe even an
aspiring artist. I actually had last night at like 3am, um, a 16 year old kid hit me up and he was
like, yo, I love your music, man, but like, how do you be creative? You know? And I, I gave that man,
that young man, some, some food for thought, you know, and I'm sure it had an impact on him
whether or not he even realizes it, you know? Um, but things like that, man, like it, it's so
much easier to do things like that in Web3 and going back to my original thing with like doing
events, um, due to some of the extraordinary accomplishments by some of my peers, you know,
shout out Jaden Violet and the whole, uh, Violet and the whole UVR thing he's doing, man,
the Raver realms and we're all like, he's essentially selling like NFT tickets that you
can get in with. And, you know, the entities for each songs are evolving as they get more
and more streams on the platforms. And then you get access to more and more things that
you might get free merch, you might get early access to, um, to songs, you get studio sessions
with him, you know, you get all touch stuff. And I love that because it kind of, you know,
um, I mean, in hip hop, man, unfortunately, this is a dangerous genre. It's probably one
of the most dangerous things, um, specifically a black person could do. Honestly, you know,
we have so many rappers who get shot and die. Um, Tupac, Biggie, Pop Smoke, XXS, Tentacion,
um, um, you know, um, Young Dolph, you know, like the genre is kind of a kind of exploded
onto like the mainstream through the extreme violence of the, like, of the, you know, that
reflected the, the lifestyles and the cultures of some of these lower income neighborhoods.
Right. And so web three kind of presents to see some of these artists, the ability to like do
things for some of their deeper fans without actually having to put them in danger, you know?
So if you, let's say you buy an NFT for a song and, you know, as the song gets more streams or
gets more popular or whatever, whatever metric you use to evolve the song in the, in web three,
you know, the people, the owners of said NFT can get access to different things. And I love that
because look like a completely, it keeps you out of harm's way. You're still doing things to your
fans. You're still doing things to connect and build deeper relationships with these people.
Um, ultimately, man, like ultimately, man, like, like, you know, advertisement connecting people,
it's like, you know, it's all emotional, you know? So more ways to kind of cultivate that
emotional connection with people are always good. And I think web three is going to, it's
like a prime example of like why this could be so effective. You know, I think web three
was honestly created to kind of prove this point in general, you know? Um, so I'm definitely
looking to do something similar to what Jaden Violet has done with, you know, his UVR raves and
the Raver realm aesthetics that he's kind of built up. We're not really aesthetics, but
like infrastructure is the word I'm looking for. Um, things of that nature. Um, as well
as whatever else the future holds for me, because honestly, that's kind of all I'm seeing at the
moment. Um, as I learn more and more every day, my ideas, they, you know, I get more.
Oh, sounded like you may have, uh, dropped your, uh, your phone there for a second. Are you
back, bro? Yeah, we've lost you there, Django.
But you know, while, while, while you're sorting your audio out, um, I can probably get that
and that's great. And I think with music as well, you know, especially hip hop, you know,
the, the, the gang culture was kind of glorified. And I think that doesn't help the genre at all,
you know, cause I'm an absolute huge lover of hip hop specifically. And I think that if
you can utilize music and that genre to speak, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.
Oh, we can hear you now, buddy. If you can hear me.
Can you hear me, buddy? Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you now. Sorry, man. Carry on.
I'm so sorry. No, no, no. You can keep going, honestly. But like, I mean, like your point
though, being like, yeah, hip hop is kind of dangerous, you know, especially depending on
the type of music you make, you know, me personally, like, I don't make like the street music.
Like, I'm not a street dude. Like, I'm going to be honest. Like I grew up in the projects,
but like my mom told my grandma, Oh, keep him out the hood. Like, don't let him go outside
when he was a little kid. So I didn't really go outside like that. So I don't really have that
type of influence or like, yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that at all. You know,
that doesn't devalue you as an artist in any way, shape or form. In fact, if anything,
then it's probably a good thing for that reason, because if you can, you know, you know,
because the younger generations will.
So the kids will vibe with music on the creative side and the arithmetic side. And, you know,
if we can make it cool to highlight better things than than gangs and guns and violence,
then that will have an influence on the younger generations. And I think that's one of the great
visions that Mike has, the guy behind the MetaBuilders account, the co-host, is that we can
positively influence the younger generations through things such as cartoons and music and
things of that nature. So I think it's a great opportunity to really change the way that
the younger generations celebrate music and what it is that they're hearing and putting into their brains.
Yeah, that's for sure, man. That's super, that's super on point with that.
You know, like, I'm not going to say I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I don't even listen to
that type of music because that's a bold face lie for me to say I don't like literally like when
Pop Smoke was out, like I loved his music, you know, like I love, you know, like I there are a ton of
street rappers that I like really love, like shout out, you know, Big Baby Gucci, shout out 42 Doug,
shout out, like Lil Baby, Thug Baby, Gunna, like, you know, like it's a lot of like Young Thug,
Future, you know, like Migos, R.I.P. Takeoff, like, you know, like a lot of these rappers,
you know, they do not have the most positive, you know, lyrical topics and themes, if you will,
but like the art is still valid and they're still good at what they do on top of that. So like,
you know, I just think that in a Web3 world, you know, someone like Pop Smoke wouldn't necessarily
have to die the way he did, you know, someone like, um, like, you know, in a Web3 world, you
know, with an artist, with a more, um, taking a more intentional, directed focus on, you know,
this space, you don't have to, you know, potentially, you know, end up in situations like Triple X,
you know, where he got shot outside his car and because 10 minutes before he was at some
donation drive, um, giving like, giving something away, I forget what, um, you know, like things
like that, you know, and that's kind of why Web3 is kind of dope because you can still connect with
these people in different ways. Also, quite frankly, there's a growing population of just
people who are terminally online. Like there are people whose whole like social lives revolve
around discord, you know, like that's just the thing, you know, these people want to have
connections too, you know, how are we reaching them? You know, there are people whose whole lives
revolve around hopping in people's streams and, you know, chatting in the comments and, you know,
doing this, that and a third, you know, how are we going to reach them? I think Web3 is a
perfect way to do that. So a million percent. And that is a very, very valid point. And, uh,
you know, that's one of the reasons why, uh, every Tuesday we do a mental health space. Um,
because that is the beauty of Web3 is that the reach on a global scale. And that's why,
you know, we're, we're now starting to utilize social media the way that we should have been
using it all along. You know, we're using it to connect with people, to add value to each other,
to, you know, uplift each other and, you know, spread the right message. And that's,
that was sort of my point with the music, you know, because at the moment that that's what the
demand is, because that's what the narrative was and was what was shaped, you know, and,
and we have an opportunity to change the narrative and take the power away from the powers that be,
if we will, and put it back into our own hands and, and, and shape it in a way that serves us and
the people and makes an impact in ways that we wish to make it. And, you know, it's like somebody said
to you, right, you're not allowed to do Web3 anymore, we're banning it. You're not going to stop
doing Web3, are you? Because, you know, this is our passion. You know, this is our, this is our thing
and it can't be stopped now. And so we have an opportunity to come together and empower what we're
doing. And because that's what, that's why you see a lot of people who have a plus, which we're super
appreciative of, is because we believe everyone has value. It's a way that we can represent each other
if the different communities can represent their stand together in Web3 and support the community
communities as well, which is who we are, um, without sacrificing your name or your profile
picture. And, you know, we're also advocates of mental health and we want to stand together to
be stronger for a multitude of reasons, you know, and the way we do that is we come together and we
support each other and, you know, we, we strengthen each other's weaknesses and we provide services to
each other. And if money comes into our ecosystems, we have people for everything so we can utilize
each other's skills and each other's services. Exactly. When funds come into the communities,
they stay in for as long as possible, rather than when corporations come in already stacked with,
you know, with funds, they're, they're going to come and extract money from, from people.
Exactly. You know, like ultimately we're Web3, man, like we're a community, yo. Like we're trying to,
you know, you, all of us, like each other, you know, like we're all stakeholders in each other,
you know? And so like, it's very important for us to kind of be able to, to collectively grow
together, you know? And like, you know, have not have corporations, you know, you know, drain us dry
and then walk away like nothing ever happened, you know? Like we don't, that's not what we really want
at all. Um, and honestly with, unfortunately with this thought, um, I do have to go, um,
I apologize for this, but I want to just say thank you for having me. Thank you for everyone
who listened. Um, I got my new single, um, Sunrider dropping on January 31st and we will
be having entities for free for people to mint, you know, and I have a show at pianos, NYC and
love, um, in a Soho, New York. Um, it's one 58 Ludlow street, I believe. And it's going to be
on Valentine's day. So February 14th. And if you are in the city, I would love for you
to pop out. If you need to know where to buy tickets, DM me, I can send you the links
and thank you for having me. All right. Have a blessed evening.
Yes. No, thank you for joining us. And, uh, yeah, no, it's not a problem that you got to
go. We appreciate your time. It won't be the last we speak. I'm sure, you know, thank
you for coming and just being yourself. You know, we love that. There's only one you
and, uh, we was fortunate enough to meet you tonight and we'll speak again before your
music drops. I'm sure. And, uh, hopefully we can, you know, become closer and support
each other further. So yeah, no, I know you've got a dip, but yeah, thank you, Django. We
appreciate it. You've been a legend.
Thank you. Thank you. All right. Bye-bye y'all.
Yeah. Talk soon, brother. But yeah, um, Smoke, I don't know if you want to, you know, dive
a little deeper about, you know, your Web3 journey. I mean, it's, it's brilliant that
you've found someone that you, that you vibe with and that you trust and is able to, you
know, guide you into the industry and help you, you know, grow your network and find the
people that you can work with. I think that's awesome. And Web3 is a rapidly growing industry
for the music side of things. And I'm sure you're probably discovering that yourself and
it's great that you've got, you know, an endless way in which you can really build your brand
and, and, and build your, your ecosystem. And it's, you know, pretty exciting to, to be
in, you know, the biggest innovation since the internet with, with your passion and have
an opportunity to really grow in an industry, knowing that you don't specifically have to
go through a record label, which instead you can be your own.
Yeah, no, for sure. Um, no, it's been really great. I've been in, uh, you know, a couple
of these, uh, like Twitter talks and, and spaces and, uh, like just learn about Web3 and, and
things like that. And I really enjoy how it's, um, you know, it's a community at the same
time. It's almost like an, an economy of the people in this way and, um, like of the
internet. And it's just, it's really been, uh, exciting, you know, uh, cause I wasn't
like, you know, when I first started making music, I was not really banking on, uh, Web3
being a thing and, you know, Zal introduced it to me and, you know, Joe, like Django was
talking about it and, you know, it just all kind of like worked out and, um, you know,
I'm really excited to, you know, take my first steps, um, in Web3 and, and kind of discover
some more.
Yeah, no, that's, that's absolutely incredible. Um, and I'm glad that you've, you know, started
to find your feet and finding places in which you can just expand on what you're doing because
now you can tell your story in so many different ways. And, uh, yeah, Web3, the right side of
Web3, cause there's multiple sides is the same with anything, you know, as a movement for
the people by the people. And, uh, you know, one of the things I will say is, you know,
make sure that you, uh, you know, you find the right people to build and connect with because,
you know, there's two sides to every story, you know, and there's a dark side of the industry
where people are misusing this, this technology and are taking advantage of people who aren't
as educated as others. And then there's the other side of Web3, which is what we're trying
to shine a light on, which will support each other and uplift each other and educate each
other and, and try and, you know, use this to add more value to the world rather than extract
value from it. And, uh, you know, I've been fortunate personally enough to have the right
mentors around me that, you know, I've learned to add more value than I take. And, you know,
it's great that you've found yourself a mentor to help you learn the same way and find your
feet. So now I'm really excited for you and I, you know, I'm looking forward to seeing,
you know, how you choose to use the industry and the values that you bring.
Yeah. Uh, you know, I'm, I'm really looking forward to that too. And yeah, like I'm, you
know, I'm definitely aware of, of kind of like the, the dark side or the flip side, you know,
there's always like two sides to the coin as they say. Um, and yeah, you know, I'm really,
I'm really thankful that I have a good team with me to kind of navigate, uh, a little bit
of a new frontier you could say. Um, and yes, I'm, I'm super excited, especially, um, with, uh,
you know, like I got songs with Joe, we're doing a couple of like NFT like tests on the web three
marketplace and things like that, that are coming up. And, and it's just really cool to be kind of
firing in, um, and kind of both sides, like in the real world, getting some event spaces and then
like working on, um, testing out like NFT applications and things like that on a web
three side. So, um, it's been fun. It really has been a ride.
Yeah, no, that's, that's, that's incredible. And, uh, yeah, um, it is definitely a great place to,
uh, to build and to grow and to connect with people and learn and, uh, you know, there's so much to
learn and that's the beauty of it is it's, you know, an ever evolving industry with so many
opportunities. So yeah, no, I'm really glad for you. And it sounds like, you know, you've had a
great entrance into the industry and, uh, you know, exciting times ahead. And especially with
the, you know, the way that the market cycles are going as well, you know, next year, we're
hoping if things go the same way, they have done the last three or four times that, you know,
there'll be a bull, a bull cycle and a lot of hype around the industry. And, you know, these great
projects and ecosystems will, you know, get some, some financial backing as well. And then people
can really start making big moves.
No, that's what I like to hear. I have some, uh, I have some stocks tied up to that. I'm
waiting to, I'm waiting for the bull run as well. So who are I like, you know what I'm
saying? Like I gotta, I gotta get on that.
Absolutely. Yeah. And that's great. And you know, when you find your people as well, it
makes, you know, makes the journey a much smoother ride for sure. Cause, uh, you know, my
favorite quote is that, you know, we eat with the people we starve with and it's great when
you can ride that, ride that wave with, with, with a great team. It definitely makes all
the difference in the world.
But yeah, um, you know, our space is normally run for about two hours and I think we're coming
close to the end of this space. It's been amazing. It's been great to meet you, Smoke,
as well. And, uh, I know that some people have left cause they're very busy and we understand
that web three years, but you know, some people have got drops. Jose has got a drop, which
is pinned at the top and so has, uh, Louis C. Rhymes. So definitely go and check them
out. These are the kind of people we want to be supporting. You know, we met, um, Django
and Smoke tonight as well. Definitely check them out, check out the music, just a little
support on social media can go so far because you only have to, you know, be seen by one person
to make all the difference. And, you know, the way we like to see it is, you know, we have
an opportunity to help someone see someone they wouldn't have seen and be inspired by
them. And, uh, you know, so definitely show some love to them and their socials and, you
know, check out the music. This is people's lifelong passions that they're, you know, manifesting
into something that we get the privilege to enjoy and interact with. So any support on
anyone's socials always makes a world of difference, but I don't know if anyone has anything they
would like to add, um, before we bring this space to a close, but if you do, then definitely
do that now. That'd be awesome. Um, I just want to say, you know, thank you all for having
me. Um, you know, I hope to see you all in the future, maybe jump in in more spaces and
things like that. You know, I, I have two songs coming out in the, uh, in, in the, uh, in
the months coming up before our show on Valentine's day. If you're in New York city, bring your girl.
It's going to be a fun time. And, uh, yeah. Thank you guys for having me for real.
Yeah, no, it's been a, it's been a pleasure, honestly. And, uh, you know, we're looking
forward to your music. If there's anything you want to play now that's, um, you know,
not too heavy hitting on the, uh, on the old cuss words, then we're more than happy for
you to play a song for us if you want to, just to give people a taste of the music you
make. But if you haven't got anything ready or anything, I understand.
Um, uh, I got some demos. The thing is like, I'm not going to lie to you. Uh, they are
explicit. So, you know, I'm gonna just, I'm just gonna drop it and, you know, and y'all
can check it out then. Um, yeah, I don't want to. Yeah. Yeah. No, thank you. I appreciate
that. But yeah, um, we, we, we, we post a lot of our spaces as podcasts and, um, yeah, for
editing purposes and we, we try and keep it as child friendly as we can. Cause you know, we
want to educate and inspire the younger generation. So now I appreciate that, but not that that
devalues any explicit music or anything at all. Art is art and we express the way we
express. So now I appreciate that, bro. Thank you.
No problem. All right. See y'all. Have a good one.
Yeah. Nice one. Again, nice to meet you, buddy. We'll speak soon for sure. But yeah,
does anyone else got anything else that we'd like to add before we, uh, bring this space
to a beautiful end? Uh, yeah, just, just have a great space. Like, you know, Friday
nights, this is, this is where, this is where it's at. Million percent. And yeah. And for
anyone that might not know, we do this every Friday and Saturday as well. Um, we also normally
have another co-host who couldn't make it tonight cause he's traveling. He also does a space every
Monday and Tuesday, Wednesday at 9pm UK time. And we also do a mental health space and our
telegram every Tuesday at 9pm as well. So, you know, we always ask if people wouldn't mind to
join the telegram and, um, help us grow the community and meet everyone else. That would be
awesome too. And, um, yeah, so tomorrow is, we normally feature two guests per space. That's
normally how we conduct our spaces, but tomorrow we like every once or maybe twice every once,
one or two months, we do a community walk-in where we can welcome everyone up to the stage
who wants to come up and speak. Tomorrow is a community walk-in. So if you do have a project,
it doesn't matter what topic it is, you're welcome to come up and speak about it and, uh,
and speak to us about it for sure. So yeah, that, that space for tomorrow is pinned at the
top. So if anyone wouldn't mind showing some love and sharing that out to people, or if you
want to join, set a reminder and we'll see you there tomorrow.
But yeah, no, other than that, then we'll bring the space to an end, you know, a massive
thank you to everyone who joined and supported. We appreciate it. It was awesome. We got to
meet some new faces as well, which hopefully we'll see more of. And tomorrow I will be
diving into a couple of things that are, uh, community communities based, because we do
have our own projects as well, which we're super excited about. And we also have some of the
things that we're working closely with as well, that we'll talk about, but we'll, we'll dive
into that tomorrow. But unless anyone has anything else they'd like to add, we will
bring the space to an end. We like to play some music at the end of our space. We've
been super fortunate, someone in the community called, um, the called black NFTs, but the tag
is iv.nft. And they made us a couple of amazing songs, which I'm going to play them for everyone
to, uh, enjoy for the end of the space. So thank you everyone. Thank you to the co-hosts
and the community community's core team as well. You guys are awesome. And, uh, thank you
to everyone for listening. I will now play us out on two songs by ivy. NFT is the first
one.
community. It's the community. It's in the web. We're creating a whole new pace. We're
revolutionizing. Breaking all the rules. We're breaking chains. We don't want to choose.
Taking back the glory, it's the community, the communities in the web, free, a chance to space, connecting minds and creating a whole new pace.
We revolutionizing, breaking all the rules, building bridges, breaking chains, we don't want to choose, we don't want to go, all this here, I'm all in for the control, and together we rise and we're taking back our soul.
Oh, I don't know every single one that I see, we can't do it, we can't do it, we can't do it, we can't do it, we can't do it, we can't do it.
What's Christmas in the web street town, plus signs shining bright, snow gently falling down, a community, a community scattered with glee, in the meta-built world where dreams roam free.
The symbols of plus, uniting hearts and minds, in the crypto winter warmth it always finds, meta-builders on board, crafting dreams so bold, web free magic, more valuable than gold.
NFC carols sing, blockchain bells time, in the community of communities it's holiday time, NFC gets trapped in code under the digital tree, in the web free wonderland where our hearts are free, building dreams together like a festive rhyme.
Plus signs in the air, it's a web free paradigm, in the spirit of giving, where the plus sign gleams, a partnership with meta-builders, building web free dreams, community aggregator, in the NFC space, hip-hop Christmas vibes, in the digital embrace.
Let's go, massive shout out to VI.NFT, I apologise, I said that incorrectly, so definitely check him out, he has got an amazing ecosystem built around music as well in web 3, hopefully we'll be able to catch him with you guys next time, so that you can meet them as well.
But no, thank you everyone for tonight, it's been amazing, and my favourite quote for this month is,
fear has killed more dreams than failure ever has. So stay motivated, stay disciplined, stay passionate, and we will catch you guys at the same time tomorrow.
If you've got the plus, be one of us. Catch you next time.
