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Web3: Should Projects Compete or Collaborate?
Recorded: May 20, 2025 Duration: 1:06:12Space Recording
Short Summary
In a dynamic discussion on the future of Web3, industry leaders emphasized the critical need for collaboration over competition, highlighting recent partnerships, project launches, and the evolving landscape of crypto gaming. Key insights included the importance of community engagement and the potential for growth through strategic alliances.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you're at in this crypto world.
My name is Cody and I will be your host for today's episode of X Talks.
Should be a good one.
So if you wouldn't mind, give us a quick share for this space so that we can beat the algorithm
of X and get this out to the
masses. We've got a great lineup of panelists that will be joining us. Bear with me for just
a few more minutes while I try to get them up on stage as quickly as possible and we'll kick this
thing off. Thank you. All right. I see a couple of our panelists that are just out there ready to join. We're just
waiting for him to accept the invite. Hopefully, X won't give us too much of a problem.
the invite. Hopefully X won't give us too much of a problem. I hope we don't get rugged. Knock on wood,
scratch on black, whatever it is. It's going to be the best route to go here. Hopefully we don't
get rugged. So anyways, if you're just tuning in, my name is Cody. Again, I will be your host for today. We are excited to have a great lineup of panelists for today's discussion.
So let's jump in there and let's start going around introducing those that will be speaking and participating today.
So first up, first and foremost, an OG legend in my mind, Warp.
How are you, my friend?
Oh, pardon me.
Sorry, you caught me mid-cough, Cody.
Listen, we are in good form today.
The guys are over at the Avalanche Summit in London.
I'm stuck at home behind the desk, you know, manning the forces and making sure everyone's okay.
But yeah, we're doing great.
If people would have noticed there, we see we had a bit of a big announcement yesterday about our most recent acquisition of NitroDome into the Warp family.
So we're very, very excited about that because that just allows us to do basically about 80 to 90% of what we said we can do.
And it's like we're just really, really thrilled with that.
Brings forward our roadmap forward by about six months.
And yeah, yeah.
Glad to be here as always.
Always love hearing your dulcet tones.
And this is a great topic.
So let's get into it.
Yeah.
Well, it's great to have you and congrats
on the acquisition yes a little minor announcement that's for sure but uh definitely a big one you
guys are definitely ogs in the space that's for sure so thanks for being here uh let's keep it
going around the horn let's go with Open Loot next. You're up.
Hey, guys.
So my name is Ryan.
I am the head of growth at Open Loot.
We have seven fantastic games in our ecosystem.
And yeah, it's a very spicy and a very non-spicy time right now in web3 gaming.
I'd say web3 gaming is not sexy.
Everything else is somewhat sexy.
And yeah, so should projects compete or collaborate?
Projects definitely need to collaborate.
There's no point competing.
That's it. Well, there you go.
Said.
Mic drop. This AM ama space is over i guess
no i'm just kidding uh let's go with uh let's see here uh let's see here infineon
i think that's how you say it sorry if i slaughtered it it's um no you're saying it
correctly it's infineon we kind of have a unique spelling.
We wanted to make sure when we had our Google presence and all that stuff that there was nothing else there.
So yeah, you Google Infineon, you will see tons of stuff about us.
But with that said, my name's Sean, otherwise known as DeFi Sean.
I own the Web3 marketing company, Crypto and Cause Investing.
Also the YouTube channel of the same name, Crypto and Cause Investing. Also the YouTube channel of the same name, Crypto and Cause Investing. I'm also a founder of Infineon, which is the infinitely smarter
blockchain along with one of our flagship products amongst plenty of products that we have
of Lunar Punk Fund. And of course the topic today that we're discussing, I actually like this topic.
It's something that I've been talking about on my YouTube channel for years now. So I was
definitely interested when I saw this topic. But as the previous speaker said, you definitely need to
collaborate. Again, competing in the space makes no sense. I've been making the argument for years
now. So yeah, collaborating is definitely the way to go. Awesome. Well, welcome. First time here. So
congrats. We're lucky to have you guys. Sounds like you'll have a lot of great input to provide. So keep moving on. Let's go with Gino next.
Hey, Cody. Thanks for letting me up on stage. So I'm Gino. I'm the head of growth at a project called TURN, and we're into Interop, cross-chain.
called TURN and we're into interop cross-chain and yeah been around with TURN for three years
and in crypto four and yeah just doing growth and marketing for almost 10. So yeah happy to
be in the space and get going. Love it love it we loveoperability, especially here at Layer 1X. So let's keep it going with Tori.
Welcome to Xtalks.
Hey, guys. Hey, Cody. Thanks for having me up on stage.
Same with all you guys.
Excited to be here with all these legends on Xcohosts.
So I'm Victoria. I'm an Xcohost.
Obviously, we're the platform behind hundreds of these Twitter spaces, this one included.
I see a couple of familiar faces here.
So yeah, most of our users are Web3 native, but I come from a Web2 background.
So I'm definitely going to bring like a user first, like growth focus perspective to today's
topic.
So I'm excited to jump into that.
I've spent the last year running um ex-co-host
turning it from like a manual service i know some of y'all have been here for a minute from the
trenches and now we're a full service platform so today's discussion i'll be sharing like what we've
seen firsthand we've obviously seen like tens of companies and communities that last.
And I'm sure you can see why,
probably mostly from collaboration.
So a huge advocate for that as well.
And yeah, excited to like lean into that conversation with you guys.
Awesome, awesome.
Thanks for joining us.
It will definitely be great to have your perspective,
not only from an X-based point of view, but also from a Web2 perspective as well.
So if you're just tuning in, my name is Cody, and I will be your host for today's episode of X-Talks.
If you haven't done so already, definitely give this space a share.
I feel like we are going to have some deep, deep rabbit hole discussions going down this topic
of Web3. Should we compete or should we collaborate? As we've all been in Web3, we already know that a
lot of Web3's ecosystem projects that are out there often compete, slowing the progress of adoption,
and compete, slowing the progress of adoption, user experience, et cetera, et cetera.
But can collaboration really unite DeFi, blockchains, NFTs, and gaming for scale?
Let's dive into it.
So with that being said, I hope you guys brought all your A-game because I definitely want to hear your guys'
spicy takes. We're okay with a little banter here and there, but let's hear what you guys
have to say. So we've already heard that people say that we should be collaborating hands down,
no questions asked, right? So I guess this is for OpenLoot and Inferion. Why do Web3 projects compete instead of collaborate?
Warp, you got your hand up first.
Let's go with you.
Yeah, sorry for jumping in because you said something there which was very, very interesting, right?
That people should, we should definitely, people, projects should collaborate, no questions
asked, right, that's what you said right now, I know, I know that's a turn of phrase, right,
but I've just posted in the comments there that, yes, things should, you know, people should
collaborate in this space, but we need to be very, very vigilant and careful about who you collaborate with, because, you know, we all know that, you know, this place is full of shysters and con men and people who who don't understand.
Actually, they don't understand how to build businesses.
They understand how to extract.
Now, that could be maybe a bit conflicting. If your business is
designed to extract from projects, then yeah, fine. Okay, you're running a successful business.
Whether that's good for the overall Web3 space, it's not. We see projects there over the last
three or four days, like Nyan Heroes and Blast Royale. And you know, what was it?
Nyan Heroes raised 19 million, you know, to build out their game and do this.
And, you know, they've suddenly closed their doors.
Now, I'm sorry, if you're raising that amount of money, then, you know, you're doing something
wrong.
And you've obviously worked with various other projects out there to help you get in that journey, be that venture capital or be that marketing or, you know, people say, oh, you should do this,
what you're talking about, you should do that, you know, and, you know, there has to be,
there has to be like a gold standard or something introduced into this space where,
where people, you know, they know they can go to somebody and trust them,
you know, and that when they say they want to collaborate with you,
they actually want to help you grow.
They don't want to take what you've got and basically solely to benefit them.
And I think we do need to be very careful.
I'm going to leave it there because I think that you know that's that's saying something painfully obvious and uh let's
see where it goes nah great take great take anybody else want to jump in on that yeah yeah
yeah I definitely want to jump in on it because obviously I have a very a very similar thought
but you know when it comes to DeFi in, especially years ago when a lot of us, three, four, five years ago, when a lot of us first got into it, it was such a competitive mind thought, thinking that we can only talk about our project and no one else because they want all the money flowing into theirs. When in reality, according to CoinMarketCap and DeFi, there's $34.8
billion the last 24 hours in volume. And there's tons of that volume to go around. Just because
someone's investing in Project A doesn't mean that they can't invest in Project B. And it's just,
for the longest time, got so toxic with everyone fighting, moving it over to Twitter and just having huge blowouts over my project is better than yours.
And name a project that has made it without community.
Every project needs a community if they're going to make it.
So by collaborating, you help your community go into other communities and vice versa.
Our whole ecosystem from our blockchain, which obviously tokens launch on our blockchain.
whole ecosystem from our blockchain, which obviously tokens launch on our blockchain.
We promote them. Our token launcher, Lunar Pump Fund, which we currently have Infineon,
BSC, and Base, and we're going to be adding Solana here soon. We promote different tokens,
especially via our marketing company. So we aren't just all about Infineon. We want to promote
everyone else and we bring our community to them. They bring our community to us. And that's how we grow because in the space, that's pretty much the main way to grow. Dropping $100,000 on YouTubers
won't get the job done. As you can see, I know I'm sure you see plenty of profile pictures from
our community in here. And that's what we're all about, just helping everyone grow along with
ourselves. And like the previous speaker said, he's not wrong. You have to be very careful who
you collaborate with, which is what we do.
Anyone that launches on our blockchain or our launch, our token launcher or anyone with a marketing company that we put our name to, you know, we always vet them.
It's we've been in the space so long and been doing it so long. Usually we have connections to people and we kind of know them ahead of time. The only way to grow is to collaborate and, again, get your community to theirs
and their community to yours,
and you pitch it to each community.
And if people are interested, again,
there's billions of dollars in volume to go around
to where everyone can kind of eat.
No, I love it.
Love it.
Love that take.
We definitely share a very similar ethos when it comes to Layer 1X.
You know, our whole thing is this bridgeless interoperability across EVM and non-EVM chains
is our way of working to unite all of crypto.
Because let's be honest, it doesn't matter if you're playing a game,
doesn't matter if you're into a DeFi project.
Users just want to be able to log on, tap into it, use it.
They don't care what chain you're on.
They don't care where things are coming from.
They just want to know that it works from A to B.
And so, yeah, strongly, strongly agree with you on that one.
Any other takers on that before we move on to the next question?
All right.
Well, the next question then is, you know, when we talk about a lot of the cross-chain opportunity,
when we talk about a lot of the cross-chain opportunity,
there is a lot of opportunity to collaborate cross-chain.
But that oftentimes, you know, does come with some risk,
some infrastructure challenges, you know, things like that.
Do you guys believe that cross-chain is a deterrent or a hurdle for most projects to collaborate with one another?
Warp, go for it.
This is a great question, Cody.
And the reason why I say that is that I think the perception out there is that chains compete with each other, you know, and, you know, in some respects, that's quite rightly.
I mean, people, OK, so for example, you might look at our name there, right?
And our handle currently is at WarpChain.
So we have, we, you know, we're building our chain on like an AVAX L1 subnet.
But it's providing the background tech for
for what we do where it's not a chain in in like the traditional sense you know against ronan or
say or zai or avalanche or whatever you know and and this is one of the very important things it's
like and depending on your project you know there's no there's no
reason why change should collaborate and the reason why i'm saying that is in our specific
industry uh that we're in is games right you know it's like yeah we all want the games you know what
we all have this idealized vision that we want games to succeed when, in fact, the majority of games, even in normal games, fail, right?
But in Web3, it happens more regularly.
It happens quicker.
It happens faster because there's no sort of guidance
or structure attached to it, you know?
So it's like you have all these games and and to get all these
whether they get grants or they go on to particular chains and they go on to this and
the chains themselves may not necessarily have the experience on how to guide a game
you know they can talk them through all the technical side of being on chain and managing
transactions and all of these all of this sort of. But when it all comes down to it,
they can't advise on how to develop a good game that has a good chance of
success, you know, and how to do your game designs and stuff.
And I think it's a very important thing, you know,
it's something that we've been preaching about is that chains need to come
come together and understand that the issues in Web3 Gaming are endemic.
together and understand that the issues in web three, three gaming are endemic.
They're all guilty of not being able to address the issues because not necessarily their fault,
is that because they don't have the experience.
But the need to realize is that there has to be some sort of consensus formed.
This is how we grow Web3 gaming,
you know, and they have to come together and, you know, seek the support,
no matter how big or small you are, you know, on how we can grow this industry.
And right at the moment, it's not there.
Now, we obviously feel that we're the ones that can unify all of this
and start the point from the beginning of starting producing or publishing good games which is the very basic foundation of web3 gaming
regardless of what technology or blockchain you're using but there needs to be that level of
collaboration there I think because right now it's just it's kind of got a like a doggy dog mentality a race a race to the bottom where you know everybody's you know as uh as in
as defy said from infineon there's a lot of money out there but right now it's it's just been been
pissed up against the wall because stuff's not been done right and if everybody wants to sort of
start to see legitimate positive change in this then there needs to be i think
massive across the board collaboration on this you know with somebody who can who can guide them
on the on the very basics of of gaming totally yeah um a couple of things I want to shoot back on that one with what you just said, but curious if any of the other speakers have anything they want to add on that question.
sounds like i might have to yeah it sounds like i might have to start handing out red bulls or
something i don't know hey guys hey i got a little so bad sorry i had to i had to take care of my son
real quick but um yeah i mean i agree with a lot of what warp said and again with infineon we're
all about including everyone
when it comes to cross-chain stuff,
especially with your different token levels.
Like for instance, we have a bridge right now
where you can bridge any Solana token
over to the Infineon blockchain
and create your LPs.
And we're probably going to create bridges
for other blockchains
and just different things like that.
Because again, the more places you can get,
the more exposure that it brings.
And that's what, again, our whole ecosystem
is based around is just all the odds you can get
and just include pretty much everyone
from all the different chains.
Because while we have our own blockchain,
I'm the biggest ETH fan,
but I mean, I love all the blockchains
and all the different things they're doing.
With our token launcher, we're about to add Sol.
We're going to be adding Sui.
So, yeah, that's what we're all about at Infineon is just inclusivity and just including everything.
And I do need a Red Bull, though.
I agree with you on that one.
I think everybody does, no doubt.
Tori, you got your hand up.
Go for it.
Yes, sir, guys.
I've been hitting this hand raise for a minute, but Twitter doesn't want
to let me be that. And not for the Red Bull, but I'm too espresso's deep. It's an early morning
for me. Yeah, just jump in. X is giving me such a problem today. So just go ahead, jump in,
everybody. Okay, cool. Yeah, I mean, I love what you guys are doing both in Finiana and Warp like I've seen you guys um building Warp I've seen you building on ex-cohost so all for this collaboration but
I mean as far as it being like a deterrent from from where I sit you know I watch hundreds of
projects try to like coordinate with partners and communities and obviously the cross chain opportunities real right um but it's it's not without friction i wouldn't say it's like a deterrent to collaboration
um but it does create like more layers to manage right like different tools different user
expectations a lot of like different like from fragmentation and communication things like that but I think
the teams that push through and like really invest in that like cross-chain presence tend to build
stronger and like more diverse communities right like there's more than enough to go around I think
if you're trying to focus more on like this short-term competition, you're not looking at the bigger picture. You're not
really like digging into what your user base wants and needs, right? You're just trying to compete
with this other game that might have not, or, you know, any infrastructure that hasn't really put
the time and effort into it. I think a lot of people will get this, Warby talked about,
raising that much money, right? And then kind of racing to the bottom.
It's because they're getting these funds and they're not pouring the time and effort into
the community, right? They're just pouring time and effort into like different ways to monetize
and not really focused on those features. So I think the payoff's there, but the lift's a little
heavier. So not every project's ready for that. Not every project really puts the time and effort to like learn and invest in their community first before they start
building. So yeah, I would say it creates like a bigger impact if you collaborate than staying
in one lane, but you need that infrastructure, you need that trust, and you have to coordinate
to do it well so love what
you guys are doing infinion i'm excited to hear more about that too yeah um you know it's it's
really interesting as we kind of talk about this this subject right there there is no doubt you
know collaboration is always good but uh you know i i want to take a step back and look at it from a 40,000-foot view.
Because if we look at just five years ago, 2020, being a UI UX designer myself, the user experience absolutely sucked.
And for a lot of projects, it still sucks.
And it's just too complicated.
And we've fractionalized things.
We've got this chain.
We've got that chain.
We've got all these different things across the board.
And so we've really kind of did ourselves a disfavor.
Now, fast forward a couple of years, 2022, end of 2022, 23,
people, projects really started
focusing on user experience.
They realized that they didn't have to
sacrifice decentralization to
get a good user experience.
It's been awesome to see over the last two years,
that growth of user experience.
But if we take a look at like the,
there's a thing called the four phases of industry life cycles. And if you're not familiar with what
that is, it's basically like any industry, it doesn't matter if it's Web3, Web2, medical, health,
So medical, health, innovation, IoT, doesn't matter.
All of these have a life cycle that they go through, right?
First phase is being an introduction phase.
If you remember back, if you're old enough to remember when, you know, cell phones first
came out, it was kind of an introduction phase, right?
It's kind of like the origin story of them getting started.
And then they went through like a growth phase where there were hundreds of different cell phone carriers. And now you look at today, there's only like a handful of them. Right. Because it's a they've they've gone out of the growth phase and they've gone into the maturity phase. And one of the biggest things that I'll go on record, and I have been going on record
saying this, that in order for Web3 to hit that maturity phase, there has to be a great shakedown,
which will force people to collaborate for a variety of different reasons. One is there's
not going to be enough liquidity to go around to every single project. Two, there's not going to be enough liquidity to go around to every single project. Two, you know, there's not going to be enough users for every project.
So those projects that start planning now to collaborate are going to be the ones that are going to most likely stick around as the years progress.
And as we move out of this growth phase and into the maturity phase of what we're all hoping that Web3 will eventually
get to sooner rather than later is that maturity phase.
And so as a result of that, I think that projects really need to set egos aside.
I think it was Inferion that talked about the egos at the very beginning.
Wholeheartedly, I've worked with various chains, being an L1 chain ourselves,
we've worked with other chains, we've spoken with them, we've worked with them, we've worked with
a variety of L2s, we've worked with a variety of projects across the board, and it's amazing to see
the amount of ego that still is in here, which shows that we are still in kind of that growth
phase. We haven't really started hitting that maturity thing.
But it's music to my ears when we hear people like Warp and Inferion that talk about collaboration,
collaboration, collaboration, because we get stronger this way.
And there is some real power behind having numbers in a sense,
to kind of move forward.
So my next question is,
is around that,
like,
can I,
can I just show something very quickly in there?
It's also the fact is that,
you know,
collaboration can also extend to,
like I mentioned about us and nitrodom yesterday is to,
is can lead to, to merging stroke acquisition,
you know, and you rightly pointed, you said something great there a minute ago about, you
know, there's only so much liquidity around, there's only so many parts, not every project,
you know, not every project is going to make it, you know, and what you do is you find the right fits out there for the people who want you to achieve
your goal. And if you get together and start this process
of collaboration in the beginning and have discussions,
then you realise, okay, rather than doing this as two
separate entities, you're better doing this as one entity, you
know, and then you come together and you go there. And this is
the kind of thing that that's needed, you know and then you come together and you go that and this is the kind of thing that that's needed you know because unless you've raised 50 million dollars and you can go do
and you know uh fafo you know and and uh and you know try and find out what works and what doesn't
which basically that's what the majority of projects who've raised that amount of money
are are doing because they got lucky in 2021 and they got a load of money and
they're basically just testing it out you know it's like you know just people just come come
together and find that you know smaller entities come together to become larger entities and i
think i think that's good as you say reaching a maturity point early on where where you can
realize where your shortfalls are and find out the avenues where you
can stick all these bits in that work together and then grow from there.
Yeah, 100%. I mean, even with the 50 million, I mean, you've got some of these chains that have
made like that have raised 200, 300 million. And I mean, I look at what we've done in three years
with only a fifth of what they've raised.
And I feel like we've outdone them
in so many different things.
And so a lot of it is just the management of money.
Maybe they overpaid their KOLs, I don't know.
Maybe they paid too many projects to come over to their chain.
And, I mean, that's another reason why a lot of these chains are popping up
is because it's a business, right?
And some of them do really well.
Some of them claim to do really well.
But then at the end of the day, they don't do anything.
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, Immutable, right? claim to do really well but then at the end of the day they don't do anything but yeah exactly i mean immutable right immutable say that they've over 400 games in their chain and then that's
great you know and when i'm not casting aspersions on on their intentions right but you know are
immutable experienced enough you know to to be able to to promote and sort of support these games and and
this is the kind of problem it's like as you said you know you have all these massive massive market
cap chains saying that they're into gaming but you know they they don't know how to support their
games that you know for them it's just oh we've got 400 games. We must be the best.
You know, and we know from proof of the pudding,
and we see it out there,
how many of them are a success.
Yeah, yeah, agreed, agreed.
And, you know, it is really interesting
because I liked what you said a few minutes ago
about, you know, how you and NitroDome
as a result merged together to kind of take your guys' ecosystem to the next level. And I mean,
that's not, that's like combining your resources. That's combining a lot of the liquidity that you
guys have. I mean, you look at some of these decks that are out there um and the amount
of liquidity that they have i mean any new decks that starts up it it's extremely hard for some of
these smaller decks to compete and so in my mind it would be better for a lot of them just to kind
of merge together pull their liquidity together and then that way they can start competing with some of these bigger ones like Uniswap and places like that.
You know the old adage, Cody, where it's like, you're better to have 5% of something than
100% of nothing.
You got to work together.
Yep, yep, you do.
You do. You do. So, um, you know, as you, I mean,
you brought up a really good point when you first talked about like being aware of like who you
partner with. And we know that sometimes these partnerships don't work out. They don't,
they don't pan out the way that they want. Uh, I found that a lot of them just want the medallion
so that they can stick it on their
website and say that they partnered with you. But what is it really that projects should be looking
for in terms of when they're looking for people to collaborate with?
Okay, I can start off on that one.
So first thing we start off with is we start with, I guess you can say community.
Community is a very important thing to us.
With Infineon, we do what we call Moon Mondays across all of our YouTube channels, all of
our X's accounts.
On Fridays, we have Infineon Fridays.
We do spaces on all of our accounts in between that.
We do things like this. So community is a very good part because again, without community,
you have nothing. We build everything you can want from a Dex to a blockchain to a wallet,
the first thing I look at. I want someone that I collaborate to already have a built-in community.
but without the community back end, you have nothing. So that's kind of the first thing I look at. I want someone that I collaborate to already have a built-in community. So again,
So again, we can present our stuff to them and they can present their stuff to us and just bring
two good, strong communities together. Then of course, the devs history. We all know that when
you're working in this space, so many people, whether it be projects or especially dealing
with developers, they'll just up and disappear on you.
I've actually taken a step back from my real estate company, which is my real life company,
and been focusing on this for probably almost a year now, full time with my marketing company
and everything. So I'm always around, I'm always present. So it's very important to me
that anyone that we collaborate with, they don't take 24 hours to respond to one question.
So you have community and then you have dev responsiveness
and what they're doing.
Are they actually delivering their products
or are they just talking about delivering their products?
Because there's a big difference.
So many people in this space talk about
what they're gonna deliver, but they never actually deliver.
So I like to see people that actually deliver stuff.
So that's kind of our criteria
when we are entertaining the
idea of partnerships. So it's just from a community to the dev and then to deliverables.
That's kind of how we look at things. No, I like that. You know, I come from a Silicon Valley
background, you know, working for a couple of big tech companies out in that area.
I don't want to drop names, but I think you can kind of put two and two together.
But it was really interesting because we share a lot of executives back and forth between,
you know, companies.
It seems like they go to one company for a couple of years and then they climb the ladder
and jump over to its competitor, climb that for a little bit.
And I feel like the same kind of mentality is here in the space as well, because let's
be honest, it's a pretty tight-nitched kind of community, even though it's a pretty big
one.
It's still pretty small in the sense of like you meet somebody.
It's like the seven degrees of Kevin Bacon right you're at
least gonna meet somebody that knows somebody that you know right and so with that being said
I guess uh Furion this question is kind of for you like you I mean sounds like you guys are doing
a lot of things from a launch pad decks uh you know a lot of marketing kind of stuff going on so you got a lot of irons in the fire
how do you and you mentioned that you've had devs just get up and leave before like
I mean how how do you kind of protect yourself like from
quote-unquote competitors taking your code and by recruiting your devs?
So let me kind of rephrase that.
So with Infineon, our developers have never left us.
So with Krypton Cause, I've helped hundreds of projects launch.
I've mainly seen it through them or through their eyes of people disappearing, not being able to get products delivered and different things like that.
And with Infineon, we work with a close group of developers. With them, they're basically
always on board with us. And anyone I work with is a couple of things. I kind of left this out,
kind of like you say, pretty much anyone we work with comes from a trusted source. So someone that
we know, we get introduced to them. It's very rare that we talk to any project or any developer just straight out of the blue.
It always comes from some kind of trusted source.
Also, I'm Docs.
If you're up on my YouTube channel, you'll see me talking on camera on our lives and everything like that.
It's very important to me that we know who we work with.
All the team members, all the developers, we all know each other's addresses.
We have each other's IDs, everyone is fully docked. So, you know, we have everyone being held completely accountable. And that's kind of how we operate at Infineon.
But I mean, culture, right?
Like you're kind of touching on that piece.
Like we've seen so many projects come and go and we've seen devs leave too, right?
Like we're running spaces, they're collaborating, but then a project shuts down and it usually
has to do with the company culture.
The internal company culture usually affects either what the dev does or doesn't do.
Sometimes you get a bad dev.
We've seen that too.
We've seen people, you know, bring in some devs
that they didn't do their due diligence on, right?
Like you said, referrals, referrals, referrals,
contracts, contracts, contracts.
Probably the biggest thing for us too is like for collaboration
is always making sure that you understand like
their company culture on the internal side, but what is their outward culture too like how are they um you know projecting on
the outside for towards their community and and does that align with your internal company culture
does that align with the way that you guys want to market yourselves you know on the outside because
you're essentially you cross-referencing each other in a sense, like you are representing these other partners that you're working with. So yeah,
love that topic and that point, Sean, that culture is huge for us. And we've seen it
be pretty detrimental to other agencies or any projects using our platform. We've kept that eye
on when they first started
until they've either shut down or they've expanded
because they've collaborated in the right way.
So I gotta be honest, like ex-cohosts,
we've been participating with ex-cohosts
probably since the very, very, very beginning
of their existence.
And, you know, we love you guys.
There's no doubt.
But like you and your team have been pretty awesome to put up with my collaboration efforts.
I guess you could call it of my shenanigans of all my different crazy ideas.
But, you know, it's I know that you guys get hit up quite a bit on terms of collaboration kind of opportunities and things like that.
opportunities and things like that. And it's really easy for projects, and I'm just kind of
pointing out ex-co-hosts, you know, to get distracted and kind of move away from that
North Star, especially when it comes to these quick win opportunities versus, you know, what
you guys are actually trying to truly build. But from a business standpoint, like, how open are you guys to collaboration?
But then also, like, what's your kind of vetting process that you guys do with Xcohost specifically
to kind of filter out the noise of what doesn't align with what you guys are trying to do?
with what you guys are trying to do? Yeah, that's a great question. I appreciate that.
Yeah, that's a great question. I appreciate that.
You know, for us, from the jump has always been like, what you said, like shutting out the noise.
When you're trying to build, I come from a marketing background, I used to own a marketing
agency, I've had that exit under my belt now for a couple of years. And one of the things that we
always noticed when working with clients was
we used to call it shiny object syndrome, right? You always meet the client that has
a million ideas. They can't seem to just put their head down and work on that one thing,
right? And they get shiny object syndrome and they're like, what about this? And what about
that? And that is probably the biggest cancer to your
business, right? Like if you can't just focus on that piece, you're just going to keep growing
a web right into a million directions. You wear yourself thin. You promise things to people that
you shouldn't promise, right? And then all of a sudden you're stuck to those pieces.
So for us, like we're really open to collaboration.
It took us a little bit of time to get to a place where we had the time and energy to like sit down
and maybe even discuss those partnerships or collaborations.
We always take in everybody's user feedback.
That's a community built our platform. I'll say that till I'm blue in the face. Like we did not
build this platform just based on what we thought, right? Like we started out as a service, client
funded, no marketing, like just solely focus groups and creator network and community building. Now we're in a place,
I think, where I would say 90% of the features that we plan to launch are launched. There's some
bugs. We're a new platform. We're still building. There's tons of features that we still plan to do,
but now we're in that place where we can sit down
and entertain a little bit more of collaboration.
It comes down to resources for us.
Like we have no plans to compete with any projects, right?
Like there's not a lot of people in the space
doing what we're doing.
So we want to stay in our lane.
We want every platform to feel comfortable
building within our platform. And we just want to be part of those marketing stacks, right? That's our goal.
No plan to compete with Twitter or try to broadcast or anything like that. So that's
kind of why a lot of people lean on ex-co-hosts to coordinate their spaces and collaborate with
other companies. We have a ton of speakers and hosts that will come in
and they don't want to speak on another space
because that's their competitor, right?
But that's detrimental to you.
So we really try to push that collaboration
and we've seen hosts eventually do that
and then they catapult, they thrive.
And so does that other company.
It's not about competition. But coming from a marketing background, too, like we've partnered with other I've partnered with other marketing agencies.
There's services that we didn't want to offer that they did. And so we just work with them and partner and send business back and forth.
Why aren't we doing that? Like, why aren't more companies doing that?
Instead of saying, you know what?
I'm going to wear myself thin, right?
And offer this same service that somebody's already offering.
I'm going to mimic it.
But when you try to copy something,
you're going to come out with a worse version of it.
So what's the point?
But yeah, we're pretty open to answer your question.
I'm going off now off my double espresso,
but we're open to collaborations.
We want to see everybody win.
We want to offer the tools.
If we can offer the tools and the resources to help you thrive, and it's something that
other companies can grow from.
If you don't want to gatekeep, you know, and you want to kind of like share those resources
and opportunities, we're want to kind of like share those resources and opportunities,
we're open to sit down. I think, I think X-Cose is a great hub for that. And we're a testing
ground a little bit for, for those collaboration opportunities. So yeah, send, send us your ideas,
keep, keep them coming, Cody. And anybody else that has any ideas, we're always open to them.
Appreciate that. Yeah, you can thank my ADHD. It'll definitely give you tons of different things to go down.
That's for sure. Yeah, I mean, thanks for sharing. I know that that's kind of putting you guys on the spot, but definitely thanks for sharing because I think it's important for a lot of projects. I think Warp would agree with me on this one is that
there's a lot of games that feel like, oh, I'm in Web3. Now I've got to build a token into my game.
I need to build all these NFTs into my game when they really shouldn't just be there people
just want to be able to play the game and they they end up screwing themselves because they
they over complicate things uh on that and so i think that they uh they get that shiny syndrome
uh and i that goes for any project out there i think a lot of people do end up chasing it
especially in the early round which is a good good sign that there are a lot of people that know how to run a business and then there's ones that don't.
We're seeing it now too, right?
Like a lot of games are shutting down because of that.
But just focus on the wrong thing.
Yeah.
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I got to thank Victoria there for giving me the best soundbite to come out of a space in a long time.
And it perfectly encapsulates game projects when they try to come into Web3.
It's the shiny object syndrome.
Any object syndrome, you know, and it's part of it's part of our, you know, it kind of covers like how we we start vetting games, you know, to be potentially published by Warp.
And it's like and you hit on it perfectly there, Cody, as well in your summation of what Tory was saying is that, you know they come in and and to see all these these things that
and they're like uh what's the what's the there's a bird that's always distracted by shiny things i
think it's a jackdaw or a cuckoo or something and it's like to see something and go oh i gotta have
that and i gotta do this and i gotta do that when it comes from our viewpoint in terms of you know
talking to talking to projects first and foremost what's
your plans for the game you know what's your gameplay design you know what's your how how are
you looping you know it's like it's like i said i hate to go back to it but it was like you know
when you saw like nine heroes and they're good guys over there but you know they have so much
money in development and then that i put only have like three or four levels to the game you know and it's just like
you know you haven't focused on the game and you and you know what are your plans for for you know
your long-term growth of your game and and your design will it stand up over a period of time and it's just like you know and if they can't answer that question then their chances of of going through the entire
war process are very slim because you know if if you can't if if somebody can't understand
or grasp the basics of what they're trying to do which ultimately is is build a good game then
of what they're trying to do which ultimately is is build a good game then you know they are
destined to fail because you know you have to get your core product your core foundations right
uh so it's like and that's very crucial now we're lucky that we have guys from from king and jagex
and rovio who are going to help who are helping us vet these games
because they have the experience in traditional gaming
of seeing all these games and how they're going to work
and, you know, talking them through the very, very basic setups
of their business, their project, you know.
And if they don't miss, sorry, if they don't fit,
then I'm afraid, sorry, you need to go back to the drawing board.
Totally agree with you, man. Totally agree.
I feel like there's a lot of projects.
We see it a lot on the meme token side of something my six-year-old would draw as a dog or a cat, thrown on a cat name,
and people are just pouring money into it.
And it just blows my mind sometimes
that it's like, oh my goodness, right?
There's no utility.
There's no, it's all speculation.
And I mean, that's great, grand and wonderful,
but everybody's got to have even risk management
with their own portfolios type of thing.
So if that's your thing, kudos to you.
Not my bag, that's for sure.
But anyways, I definitely want to thank everybody for collaborating with me today on this space.
We had some great speakers up here, a lot of great insights and things like
that i want to give you guys a chance to basically shill yourself out a little bit so if you want to
take like uh 60 seconds or so uh to kind of tell us like any alpha you want to share about your
project anything like that.
Go for it.
But I do ask that you also answer one question,
which is what do you think will be the next kind of era in Web3 collaboration?
Where do you think the hot trend will be?
Let's go with OpenLoop.
Go for it hi guys um so as you guys know uh we are a web3 gaming ecosystem um i know that there has not been
a lot of new events in crypto gaming in the last couple months, but I think that for games, it takes a long time to develop.
Individually, crypto and gaming will always be around. You can see it from the new game developments, the new launches in crypto.
developments, the new launches in crypto. As we go towards this post-scarcity dystopian society,
people will continue to speculate and gamble in order to justify their existence. So it only
makes sense that as we move forward, crypto and gaming will continue to be served as a medium of
escape for people. And as you travel the world and you look through the lenses,
people are always looking for an escape,
whether the escape is in pure speculation
or as a form of a metaverse.
So I would say my final thoughts would be that
for those that are looking to speculate,
there are plenty of opportunities that are coming soon.
Okay, let's go with Gino.
Which handle are you coming from?
Yours or Tern's?
I think I might have broken Gino.
Yeah, I think you did, man.
I accidentally, I thought I was on my personal account, and I'm on the turn account.
I think I might have broken Gino.
Yeah, I think you did, man. Gino, yeah I think you did man
all right well one of you guys take guys taking it to your outro?
There's not much else to say here.
Like, yeah, we turned up, and we turned up a little too hard,
and I joined the wrong account, and I threw Gino off of his groove,
and here we are.
And so this happens sometimes.
But, you know, things are good.
Things are good.
I'm just going to drop a line that, yes, we should compete.
Not compete, we should collaborate,
because that makes things stronger and bigger and healthier and more robust.
And speaking of robust and bigger, we're launching Barachain support later on today.
So major alpha for anyone that is in here and is looking to use our
testnet jump in
and you know
announcement coming up on that very very soon we're just
fixing some bugs quality
assurance stuff
sorry Gino and sorry
layer one for
rugging the space unintentionally
this is crypto
Matt K signing off it's always good to
have you on matt seriously no it's good to hear you uh let's go with uh inferior yeah so let me
start by saying if you haven't figured out i'm definitely on the on the train of collaborating
as far as inferior i'll give a really quick pitch that. It's something that we did a little bit differently.
Like I stated in one of the things I was saying, so many projects decide to launch and then build.
We did it the opposite.
We've done really well with our marketing company, which allowed us to actually fund the initial blockchain build right out of the gate. For those that aren't aware, Mainnet is live.
We have infinityswap.finance, which is our DEX, where you can do a whole bunch of different things, including wrapping your Ethereum to get the ever-appreciating asset that our blockchain offers.
We have our Infineon wallet that's live on Android, working through Apple right now.
We have our Lunar Pump Fund platform, which is a token launcher.
You can, of course, launch on Infineon.
We have BSC.
We have Base.
We have Solana actively being developed and will be here shortly.
I believe Sui is our next target.
We have our own social media platform, app.lunarpump.fun.
You can go there or you can download it on Android or Apple.
And as far as where I kind of think things are headed or one of the things that I know that I utilize and I'm excited for is where Web3 is heading is, I guess you can say, like AI and blockchain integration.
That's definitely one thing that I wasn't necessarily into a couple of months ago.
But as the months have gone by, it's something that I'm getting into and diving deeper and deeper into.
Love it. Love it. And I think we have our 10 minute pitch show tomorrow i think you guys are
participating in that correct um yeah did you guys confirm with us if we're on it but yes i um i will
be on there and um yeah i'll come i'll come pitch the entire infineon network to you guys yeah i
love love it can't wait to hear about it So for those that are wondering what the 10-Minute the KOL flavor to it and allows you to make your
own informed decisions about a project. So pretty fun. It's a classic take on the speed dating
format, and it's always a lot of fun. So we will see you there tomorrow, if any of them.
Yeah, I'm excited.
Yeah, yeah. Let's keep it. I'm excited. Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's keep it moving.
Uh, Tori, bring it home.
Yeah, guys.
Um, I won't go too far deep.
I'll keep it short and sweet.
Um, ex-co-hosts.
Most of you from here, I see so many familiar faces.
Uh, but yeah, bringing speakers and hosts together, hosts and hosts together too.
Um, speaking's free.
So sign up as a speaker if you're not already.
Get on these spaces.
Get your opinion out there and learn.
You don't need to be an expert in a topic.
You just need to know something.
You need to know more than the listeners, right?
But as far as what the next chapter is,
I mean, we're already starting to see it on our platform.
There's a purge happening.
There's a need now for collaboration.
I love this space.
I think it came at the perfect time.
But yeah, I think these standalone products
is not going to be the way we have to collaborate.
Those are the ones that are going to lead the way forward.
Those are the ones that have been leading the way forward
focused on community and building.
But yeah, add XCo to your marketing stack.
And if anybody has questions or wants a demo,
ping me, find us on Telegram.
We have tons of features still being rolled out.
I know I mentioned we hit a marker.
We hit essentially our goal of the
features that we wanted out so that we can start doing collaborations, but we've got a ton more
coming outside of Twitter spaces. So if you have ideas or requests, feedback, please, please send
it open to anything and everything anybody's looking for.
And we'll do our due diligence there and see how that works out.
But I appreciate you having me on the space, Cody.
Always a pleasure chatting with you.
And yeah, the rest of you guys, it was a great conversation.
Appreciate it.
Yep.
Thanks for coming.
We'll have to do a chat soon. I've got some more ideas to brain dump on you.
So we'll have to catch up soon.
Warp, go for it.
Going to keep it as very, very brief, Cody,
because we've hit the hour.
One, as I said, our big announcement went out yesterday
in terms of NitroDome.
You will, over the next couple of weeks,
see we'll be breaking what that means down into
a lot of content. So one of the big things we're very excited about is that this now allows us to
any, you know, turn a web to potentially turn a web two game into a web three game in a matter of
hours up to days depending on how big their asset databases are.
But yes, we're very excited to start sharing about how this is going to, you know, form the evolution of Web3.
I also want to say thanks to DeFi, Sean there and Tori for contributing to the space. I love, I love, I've spoken with Tori on calls before,
but I love meeting new people, you know,
who are passionate about what they're doing
and are also able to discuss the wider issues,
you know, in the space
and have a philosophical conversation.
And it's always great meeting people there.
And yeah, and that's it.
And you did ask about what you might think
is the next kind of big thing in terms of like Web3
collaboration and stuff.
I think, and it was touched on earlier about communities.
I think it's going to be, a shift is going to come
where people are actively going to collaborate
with communities in LATAM and Africa and Southeast Asia and not just pay them lip service.
I've been on streams and seen streams before when as soon as somebody comes on with a deep Nigerian accent or an Indian accent and you know some of the viewership drops off and I think
that's you know I'm a bit of a lefty and I think that's just a disgrace that people do that but
a it's because there's a certain there's a certain reluctance to view these demographics and these markets as actual contributors and people who can collaborate to this space.
I think that's where we know that's where a lot of the major growth is going to come from.
But we just need to treat them better and to actually deliver on what we say we're going to do
and i think what once once that is mastered and done uh with uh with with a genuine need to a
genuine belief in lifting everybody up then i think that's where we're going to see the the
explosion in growth and again couple all that with actual decent product at the end
of the day then i think i think want to get where we need to be so it's been a pleasure thank you
very much uh it's always good to have you i mean hey if we didn't collaborate you and i wouldn't
be friends right so uh we appreciate warp being here as well uh for all those that are uh that
have participated thank you so much. We appreciate
you guys taking time out of your busy schedule. If you haven't followed these guys, definitely
give them a quick follow. They've definitely got some good projects cooking. For those that are
not familiar with Layer 1X, Layer 1X is a layer one blockchain that is fully decentralized. We focus on
interoperability, which we call Xtalk. Our Xtalk allows us to basically go bridgeless between
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chain to chain. And so that allows us to unlock a lot of different things, not only moving assets,
but it allows us to also move data and logic as well. So allows you to keep things on chains,
be able to leverage it while keeping it nice and secure and safe on that specific chain,
while using it all on another chain without having to move it, which it nice and secure and safe on that specific chain while using it
all on another chain without having to move it, which is kind of cool. We're actually integrating
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hacks that are going to be a big thing coming up here in the next few years, which is awesome.
coming up here in the next few years, which is awesome. But first and foremost, probably what
I'm most excited about is the L1X token being used as a universal gas fee token. So no longer will
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we've opened up the treasury and we are doing a kind of flash sale to raise for us to kind of be able to make the next
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before they're all gone. So with that being said,
thanks everybody for participating and thanks to all of our listeners tuning in.
If you want to check out those that are participating in the 10-minute pitch,
tomorrow 8 a.m. Eastern Standard Time, we will be going live with the first project.
So we will catch you there. Until then, keep working to unite all the crypto and we'll talk to you guys later.
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