Back for the team, would you bang the machine?
Staying with a plan for the beef, see me on a casual list of Nike regimes
Find a bathroom, I'm at down for the team
Leave a wee factory clean, I could pay but of course I'm happy as free
Feeling me with Aggie on B's, we just take ours and get dressed in free
Back for the team, would you bang off the beam?
Or go you go left for the scene?
I hate when I'm gonna out of plastic bags in a truck
Talk over users for the beef, the road with a tech gun, men don't lead, we hold and press the machine
Blue go drown with a clown cool, he took the raccoons for the gym
Let me ask you a question, how can that man too bad?
Fuck is a gang decap, don't stop trying to go hold on, what's?
Tip toe with a whack and crash, I'm running my down and feeling the shit
Be like, I ain't confirmed the splash, these ones heck, million back
How many times have they jumped out, we jump out and they jump back in
How many times have we dumped off, Jinx find out when they want us in
No big, there's no link, so we see me back on the strip
We're pissed, I don't think, try to end my down like they're in a thing
You'll be, how many times we rise and shingle the cops
Build ups on a bluff and stop for the bluff on front and run for the bluff
You'll be, they man chow on them neck, I can't listen to meat
I move, hey, get your new ship, can't you make man clear?
You'll be, how many offs been chopped and put on a blade
Guys, man, I'm glad you let on a razor, where's your good hood this year?
I see they get shot, trying to watch the scenes, man sat on them slugs with ease
Like Billie M. Watts in fun with V, in a ride to his tracks like Donald Trump
Google's at fault when they lost that band, got best of both, like Hannah Montana
Go over to Tana, call us two months past, so we be off the kunde scanner
Long knowns, no poison, no hood, man, wind out the window and beat that hammer
This P.Y.T. can't handle the D-man, drag on the weed, then jack on the hammer
Man gang beat that mop, they all blow out when they hear that ring
How many times have you denied your block, you're all involved down here in a thing
Get around two stolen things, jump out the car and they all run in
Their man too fast, you go racing, page instilled, now come and dump some chings
You'll be, how many times have you razzed and chinkled a cop
Bill Hobson up in a front, front end rock, front end rock
You'll be, they man chow on them neck, I can't listen to meat
I'm okay, getting a new ship, can't stand, make man feel it
You okay, how many offs been chopped and put on a blade
You know, that's my bludgelit on a razor
Good morning, good morning, how are you doing?
You got the man himself, Zippy, back here
I got the first beer of the day open
And I had a good day with my kid
So, you know, went to the library
We got some candy on Saturday
He's happy, he picked out some
Um, it's like a Coca-Cola flavor, it's like a mystery flavor designed by AI
Nah, yeah, that sounds awesome, bro
Bro, I don't know, it has to be uh, two coho smacks
Because I feel bad for Craig now
I thought we could like, go all in
He can still speak, you can understand him
Oh, AJ, laugh at him, that's crazy
So I saw people were printing today, there was like, uh, this, uh, coco token
That was going up and down, and people were just having a great time
Uh, did you do any shit coining, Amir?
Oh, yeah, I, uh, I bought the dip on, uh, when Max went
Max went, it was like 30 million market cap
Bought a bag, and it's like, it's like 45 now, 45 mil
Making some solid profits
I just sat by the sidelines today
Uh, there was like a one, um, I think it was called like Chiba, like C-H, or like Chino, like C-H-I-N-U
I did like a 3x on that last week
Uh, and then I saw that it had gone up even more
So if I'd have held, like, and not cheated on it, then I'd probably have 10x today
Yeah, bro, that's the worst feeling, but profit is a profit
Yeah, I mean, there's a saying, like, no one ever lost money taking a profit, right?
I made money on NFTs yesterday
Oh, is it the Ethereum puppets thing?
I did that, and I did the ping-wing thing on Sol
I made money on two different chains in NFTs
Damn, girl, we should watch your wallet
You'll have printing all the time
Don't ever tell anybody that, please
I don't come up here and tell you all about the 19 things that I didn't make money on
Well, I've always said to people that, like, I'm a Jim Cramer of, like, crypto
So if they want to, like, inverse trade me
If you want to make money, you just, like, do the opposite of what I do
So just watch my wallet and do the inverse
And you'll be, like, you know, very rich in no time
Well, really, we gotta remind people here that nothing here is financial advice, so
It is not financial advice
And, you know, if you look at, like, my blockchain history and all of that
Then you're like, this guy, this guy hates money
This guy, he's just, like, absolutely, you know, charitable giving kind of guy
Let's see what else is here
Yo, Esmaris, how are you doing, bro?
If you're just joining us, though, could you hit the button at the bottom where there's a
Six and retweet the space? Let's get some people in here
And grab a mic if you want to come up and say hello
Let's go down the line one by one, see how people are doing today
Hey, Esmaris, how are you doing, bro?
I don't know if that's how you say it
Yo, Amir, what's up, my brother?
What's good, homie? How's your day going?
Thank you, brother, thank you
Got any plans for the weekend?
I said, you got any plans for the weekend?
Oh, we have much football tonight
Oh, yeah, that's what's up, bro
You're in one hour, Tunisia
Yeah, I definitely gotta watch the
I've been keeping up with the Asian Cop
Oh, it looks, bro, have fun
Thank you, brother, thank you
Well, we'll come back to you
Because I'm sure you got some alpha for us later
Hi, Daman, Craig, how are you doing, bro?
Yo, yo, Amir, what's good, my man?
Bro, that's been a working day
For me, unfortunately, but, you know, we got that paper
Happy to be here vibing with you guys
Looking forward to the boxing tonight
And do me Tingon if the island is well, to be honest with you
I don't know whether any of you guys have gotten involved yet
But, yeah, what about you and me and my man?
Back with the spaces here
It always feels good when you're gunding on the weekend
Because that's when people take breaks
What, no breaks around here, bro?
Yes, we have some hard-on weekends, Amir
All right, nice to hear from you, bro
We'll come back to you later
Finally back on the speaker stage
ZP, it's a pleasure to see you here again
And it's lovely, lovely, lovely
Really nice to see ZP back here on the stage with us
I have to come here just to say this
Just to say much love to our good friend, ZP
Oh, nice to see you back here again
So it's a pleasure to be with everyone here, okay?
Gee, I see you're always grinding in the space
Whenever I check in, there's all the spaces at the top
And you're doing all the Portuguese language spaces
I try to support, sometimes I join and just like the space
But it's good to see you working hard, man
And what's going on in your spaces, what was the latest one?
Yes, every Friday night, I try to connect with Portuguese
crit or friend, you know?
It's in Portuguese, so don't worry
So it's not a very easy language
But yes, it's good to try to join the Portuguese community
And we talk about the NFTs, about the crypto, about the Bitcoin ETFs
But a lot of things, you know, so it's great
It's a space that I open and invite everyone to come up
And to see if people have any type of doubts or more technical things
Sometimes they are very, very technical
But it's good, it's great
But yes, it's in Portuguese, guys
But I need to share this with my community, with the Portuguese community
Well, Portugal was pretty famous in the crypto world
Because they had like zero taxes on like crypto gains
It was like one of the few places in Europe where you could do that
And so I think they have quite a bit of like penetration
But I heard that the law is changing
Now we start in this year
We will start paying taxes
But if you hold crypto or NFTs for one year
It's free again, no taxes
So if you hold crypto during one year
You buy today and sell in one year
You can trade it, you can cash out
And no fees, no taxes will be able to apply it
But if you buy and sell crypto or NFTs
Before one year you will have to pay taxes
Honestly, it's not a bad law
But yes, starting this year
I kind of like that system
That's similar to Germany
They have a similar system
So what you're doing is your...
So the Portuguese government
In from other European countries
And the law that you saw on Germany
Is exactly what we have here
This is terrible, I guess
I mean, what they're doing
Is they're not penalizing investors
You know, people who are holding for long term
And they're just taking a slight cut
From like traders, I guess
So if you're like, you know, trading all the time
Then you need to pay the tax
But if you're like long term investing
Because I guess long term investing
Is kind of higher risk, right?
It's quite a good idea, I guess
Because the government is incentivizing you
To don't spend your crypto
And keep your money here, you know
Even if here is a blockchain
So if you stay here for one year
So I guess the objective is exactly that
Because we here in Portugal
Have a bunch of hubs, crypto hubs
So there are a lot of companies
That came here and are working here
I guess one of the biggest NFT conferences
Yeah, so lots of things happening in Portugal
But like Emi, you wanted to go through
The people on the on the stage
So who's next in the line?
How are you doing, Browski?
Yo, yo, I need you with a new intro
First off, Zippy, it is so good to see you
Back on the timeline and back on the spaces, man
I mean, it's good to have these spaces back
Guy OJ, nice to see you up here
Just out here grinding, man
I got a new broadcaster set up
So I'm about to kick this year off
With a whole bunch of spaces
And getting to more content
I'm thinking of getting into doing some more video content
So I'm even possibly thinking of doxxing myself
Just so I can get some new video content up
So, yeah, that is a plan of future events coming up
Within the next few months or so, I guess
Yeah, that sounds sick, bro
Always nice to switch up and stand out
Just stand out from the crowd
I have to say, I really enjoy your content, Mike
Like, I learned like a lot of this
You do share quite a few tips and tricks
And there's like in the type bar extension
And like other things that help me just like automate
Like a few things that I'm doing on like socials
No, I really, you know, I like that
And like when I say automate, it's not like robotic
It's just like making suggestions like content and things
So not the stuff that can get you in trouble
But things that can just, you know, give you inspiration
Yeah, it's just also about like convenience and efficiency
So like I automate all my GMs and GMs
But I automate it in the sense of when I wake up and go to sleep
So I just don't automate it and leave it
So it's more so I don't have to sit there and think about doing it for a whole week
That means I have more energy and focus to have more time to write
Two, three days worth of content
As opposed to kind of wake up doing a GM
I've already done seven days worth of all that
So now I've got more energy and time to do, you know, type out a day or two of just content
So, you know, I used to automate a lot of like my posts back in the day
And what I found was I used to do it just too much
So I would I was thinking, oh, you know, it's just such a grind
Like putting up like, you know, all this content like day by day
And so I'm like, okay, I'll just block out some time on the weekend
And I would just do like a month's worth of content
Just like three posts a day, like GMGN
Actually, I think it's four a day
It's like GMGN and then like two actual like content things
And I was like really happy with that
You know, because what I would do is like my process was to collect things that were interesting
You know, I have like a little notepad thing
And then I just have them all in there
And then I'd sit down and I'd look at my notes and like put up all the content
But then what I found was that, you know, you want to talk about topical things, you know
And like what you thought was like interesting two weeks ago
Sometimes the narrative has changed and you were planning like, oh, yeah, you know
Waiting for this like amazing drop
And then maybe like that person rubbed or something, you know, something else happened
In terms of that, like I if that's if that's the case, I just do it there and then
So if that is relevant to that time
Even though I've got like two days worth of just written content
So but if the idea is for that
That like that then their idea
I just drop it there and then a good thing
It's it's such a quitters because Marianne is he and what I usually do is thanks to Marianne
But I if anybody here does not use notion
I use notion to drop my ideas
So I've got it set up on my phone again
Thanks to Marianne because she had the idea and it is like life changing
I literally have my notion set up on my phone
And whenever I have an idea like I could be on
The bus I could be on the train. I could be in my car even driving. I literally just hit that audible button
I do a brain dump and it just brain dumps onto my page
And then because it's also linked to my laptop
I can just go into all this
Like a full day's worth of brain dump and just make content out of that
Or even go back to ideas that I had a couple of weeks ago
That I wanted to talk about that. I forgot to talk about I just go back there make it into a post and then post it
So, yeah, it was just such a coincidence that Marianne just jumped on stage that um,
That ID came into my head. So
Yeah, so I use notion when I work things like different projects we work with
They you know, they have notion for their line marketing
Stuff and we manage different things like you know
One of the things I do is I set up like ambassador programs for different crypto projects
And we you know, I use notion to manage those and the deliverables and all those kind of things
I've never really used it like in personal capacities usually with projects like it's interesting that you're doing that and
And and I know that they release some AI features. Are you using any of those?
Yeah, I do like I use notion to do literally all my content so whether I kind of do it in
Um like in twitter itself, but like any decent ones because i've got all the ideas in notion
I've got a separate page that I kind of set out
However, I want it to sound like it and then
I'll let it sit there for an idea and then i'll do another one and then um
I kind of like go through these pages of like draft
And then posted and then I literally just use AI to
Make it sound or look better. Obviously get it adjusted so it doesn't sound so body you always got to
I literally just copy and paste from notion straight onto twitter
And then if I have to make readjustments
Um, I literally stare at my content for like a good 10 20 minutes reading it over and over again in my head
Even out loud and then when it sounds good
The notions are quite good platform honestly i've used it several times in the past
It's really easy to use and simple to navigate through
There is such it's such a
Marianne if Marianne had posted about it, I would have it's mind blowing to me. It is life changing
I am going to start crying in three seconds
It's changed the game like between like being in
Alex Finn's one percent club and
Those combinations together is just crazy. But again
I talk about it in most of my content
You know if you don't have these people that you
Either your mentors look up to then, you know things can change and be life changing for you in terms of your
Your space on twitter. Yeah
Amir you have to call on the line because everybody's line looks different
Uh after mike, it's so aj for me
Hey, what's up guys, how are you this beautiful saturday?
Hello, emir. Hello empress zippy. So glad to have you back
Craig love you crypto gee
I I missed your space man. I was gonna come in because guys I was in I was in chat with uh
Oh my gosh, who's the other one?
I don't know. I forget the name now and um, we were talking about
Crystal yeah, so we were talking about pulling up in his space and I learned some
Portuguese that I was gonna say
Um, and I missed it. I don't know. He didn't send me the link or something like that
He just didn't want me to to win over his crowd or something like that. I guess
But um, yeah, I did learn some stuff and i'm gonna pull up on you one day. Um
I learned something else that I thought that was gonna be funny that you guys would laugh at me. Uh, damee ginero
I was gonna learn something else for fisto, but I can't say your language
I've been playing it over and over and I I can't pick it up. I just can't
but he put me in this freaking chat because I bought one of those um
Those freaking frogs this uh
Oh my gosh the aetherian puppets
And and they're pretty raunchy in there and I was like like I was like yo
You needed to be in a timeout. What on my timeline suggest I want to be in this chat right now
They're so raunchy and now i'm like I feel like I need to take a bath when I leave out of there
So I was on google translate last night and I was putting all types of stuff in the back chats to him about you know
In his language, but I couldn't say it so
I was gonna try to impress you today, but it just wasn't working. I couldn't pronounce it
But um, hey mike and mary anne. Um, i'm doing good. I was just
Moderating an event. So i'm just back here in the back channels answering questions
Um on twitter responding to people and in this
In this space with you guys chilling hanging out getting the alpha connecting with you guys and seeing what's going on today
Always love you to your voice shawty always positive
Fucks facts facts, yeah great really great to hear from you always come with the positive energy. Honestly, we all love to hear it
Yeah, i'm sure we'll come back to you again
Uh, let's see if this still here finally made it he's been saying he'll make it for like weeks now and he finally did know
Hey, hey glad to be here gm gm looks good
How's good man? How's your weekend going?
Uh, not so well i'm not feeling so well coffin all the time
And then brother sucks on a weekend
Hope you feel better soon
So yeah, i'm not gonna speak too much because i'm
Yeah, you're all good. I'm finally here and made it after
I failed to join several times. Oh, yeah
Uh, igla you made it finally bro. Nice to hear from you
It's always funny seeing you fisto. I've never seen uh, someone
Who's working and grinding all the time but changes his bfp constantly
Or am I tripping? I think it was Kevin or some shit
Them bros always rebranding
Fisto go grab some herbal tea and some honey
Here's a question for you shorty like people I know there was like yeah, you gotta get that manuka honey, right?
Yes, is that is that like a thing like you have to get that manuka honey or wildflowers. There's always different honeys. I wasn't really
Paying attention to like this honey stuff and then like suddenly this they're saying manuka. That's the one you're supposed to have
Yeah, well manuka honey comes from new zealand
Um, and it is one of the best honeys you can get right? It has
antioxidant properties antimicrobial
and so what I do with that if I mean i'm i'm rarely sick because my my diet is such that
You know i've gotten better over the years and I really wasn't a sickly kid
Anyway, my immune system was strong, you know born on like a little farm in the country
So, you know, we were out there in the dirt. So we got all that so my immune system is pretty strong
Um, but the manuka honey if you are if you have a cough
If you are feeling a little under the weather get that honey and then a
teaspoon of it or a tablespoon depending how
Much you consume how much you can consume and just let it sit in the back of your throat
As if you aren't you're laughing
As long as you can in the back of your throat because it has those those properties that help you with your cough
And and to help you with those, you know, those little germs you might have sitting around in there and then just swallow it swallow it
You know raw and fresh and like that helps you out even if you and and you're sick fisto. So, um
Even if you didn't, you know like herbal tea
Um, you can just warm up some water
At the temperature that you drink it and then put the honey in it and mix it around and just drink that and that
Does wonders for you i'm telling you honey
Herbal tea like i'm like super i'm super protected here because of that guys
I actually had some tea the other day surely
You know, it was having uh, like, um drinks with an old friend so a guy i went to uni with he was happy to be
And you know we were meeting up on that and he was like, oh do you want to meet up and i was like, yeah
I mean you hardly ever come here. So, you know, let's uh, let's meet up and um, you know, we had uh, some some some wine and
And like some some nice, uh, you know kind of
Snacks and then he was like, oh, um, you know once more to drink and i was like, no
No, I have to drive, you know the limit for me and um
And he's okay. Well, let's get some teas and coffees. No, let's get some coffees
And i was like no I can't drink coffee because I can't drink coffee after like 4 p.m
Because otherwise I can't sleep
He's okay. Well, let's get some tea and i was like why don't drink tea. He's like, no, no, let's get peppermint tea
It's not tea. It's just like water with like peppermint
It's like peppermint flavored water basically
I was like, okay, uh, i'll try that so we had this peppermint tea, uh with um
With honey and it was lovely. So so I might start drinking peppermint tea
So tea can be anything you don't have to
Like the tea I don't drink is the tea from like the black tea leaves, right? I don't drink that tea
I drink herbal tea, you know for the health benefits and a lot of it tastes good
Um, but another thing you can make anything out of tea seriously
You can take a root and boil it and you can call that tea. You really can
Um, but another thing about um, the manuka honey is it's an anti-inflammatory too. So pain inflammation all that
The manuka honey will help with that
I should tell my wife to have more fat. Um, yeah, she has a rheumacism so she has like inflamed joints. Oh my god
So teas root teas for her so, um burdock root
Manuka honey, but here's the thing with the burdock root and the ginger root boil it
And then let it steep for like 20 minutes and then let it cool down to where that she can
And then put the honey in
You don't you never want to put honey in really hot water or boil honey because it changes the chemical makeup of the honey
And it's kind of poisonous for us at that point, but
Warm tea warm water put the honey in then
Yeah, you don't want to lose all the oxidants basically, yeah, absolutely ruining that
No, no, no, no, I just want to say that this was alpha support today
What you're saying is the biggest alpha
I can't believe you needed a grown-up to tell you that it was peppermint and water so that you would drink it zippy
I live a very sheltered life
Well, we got last person on the speakers list marianne, how are you doing?
First time here nice to see you
Nice to meet you amir. It's been a while
Really nice to meet you and speak to you on a space because we spoken before in the bm. So
I prefer spaces way more so you can directly talk to people
Definitely. I'm doing amazing
I've been spending my whole days on spaces while i'm working while i'm doing literally anything
So, uh, so yeah, um amir. What are you up to? What are you building right now? Where are you cooking in web3?
Uh, honestly i'm just focusing on dc spaces right now besides my brand
So doing dc spaces weekly trying to get them as big as possible
So this is episode nine. So we started like two to three months ago just getting started
So if it feels like you're just getting start like episode nine, even though it's a low number
But that's like two or three months of building
So yeah, that's what i'm focusing on right now on top of building my brand trying to grow my community as always
Helping projects doing marketing and providing other services
I love that I always love to support
And working their asses off kudos to amir
Appreciate that. What about you? What are you working on lately?
My main thing right now my main focus is art style fest in dubai in april
Uh, and then after that's done. I have a couple other things i'll be i'll be focusing on
That would be nice i might try to make it to the dubai event
Yeah, because I want to go there anyways, I was planning to on the
Christmas break, but I didn't get that chance. So yeah, I might do it
Either April or the summer
There's token 2049 right after as well. Wait, i'll shoot you a dm
I'll shoot you a dm. We have some stuff to talk about
Oh, it sounds good. Yeah, for sure
Token was massive last year
The tokyo event no like token, um the singapore event
Were you there last year mariam
Actually, actually this is gonna be the first event I attend outside of lebanon
It's always nice to get the first crypto event under the belt
I did my first event in crypto last year. I went to yeah, I think it was eth prague
I think that was the first one and I went with my uh, I went and I met up my
And he was in the audience. I think he's fucked off now
We've been working together for like a number of years and never met each other and it was nice, you know
He's uh based in uh, slawakia and uh, you know eth prague is just really near for him
Especially in web 3, you know, a lot of things are just you're just in the metaverse constantly
And just bringing that into the into real life and just meeting those friends that you've made and it's weird to explain sometimes
You have very close friend relationships with people and they're like, oh, yeah
So, you know, how were they when you met them? I was like dude, i've not met this person i've been working with them closely
You know, um, and it's just nice to just you know meet in real life. It's a different feeling
And uh, it's always funny because it's like uh, I was like, oh, you know
I always felt that lubmir was like quite a short guy and he's like no he's not he's like easily as tall as me
It's like just silly things like that
Uh, and sometimes you think someone's like a big guy and they're like little or like, you know, all that kind of stuff
So, um, you know all the all the things that you think
Are going to be the case even if you see people on zoom and google meet it's not necessarily the case and um, I think
Uh, I get lots more business done, uh in real life
So if praga was the first event I did and then I also did them blockchain week in berlin
and the reason was because um
You know just by chance many of the projects i work in people are just based in berlin
Um, um, so I was going to be able to like meet like, um, uh the team from key on protocol. I work very closely with
Um, and they're all in berlin and ocean protocol i've been working with for two years
Um, you know, they were attending, uh east berlin
So I got to meet all of them and that was really nice and another you know
One of these places where i've been working with you for a long time and and not met them in real life and it was just
Nice, uh, so, you know i've get to meet the key on people and ocean and some people from frat or protocol also from like berlin
Yeah, it was uh, it was just good, um to make those connections and and uh,
And just berlin's a nice place and and doing those events people are so open in web 3 in general
We're doing decentralized things, right? And if you want to do things decentralized, you can't be like gatekeeping
I think decentralized inviting everyone and you get that kind of vibe when you go to those places
Everyone's open for like discussions meetings and and all those kinds of things
So I think there's a lot of value in in going to these events
This is really exciting because I can't like
The community here in lebanon is so small and I had so many opportunities just because of those couple people
Always like I can't even imagine how huge it is to actually meet people international people
In a web 3 event like i'm gonna be i'm probably gonna be a token and art style fest
I can't even wrap my head around
How cool is it going to be meeting all the people that I talk to on a daily basis in here and even more and more people
So i'm really really looking forward especially dubai because like
It's known to be a hub for like innovation and entrepreneurs
And all opportunities and starting to be a very very very big web 3 hub and crypto hub
Noting that there's zero taxes as well. So i'm I can't wait 100
So, you know, what are you looking to get out of this uh, this event in dubai like are you like doing art?
Are you gonna like do some marketing? Are you gonna meet up with projects? Like what what's your intention?
I'm actually an organizer
So uh, i've been i've been setting the speaker's panel i've been setting the communication strategy
I've been setting everything that you guys are seeing on their x account
And a lot behind the scenes as well
So, um it is it is pretty exciting because uh the speaker's panel you can see the speaker's panel in the highlights section
Every time we announce somebody we add it to their highlights section and the speakers are really huge
I mean some of them are people you talk to every single day and others are really huge
And yeah, I mean the thing about art style fest the thing that made me like to like work with them so much is that
They do not they are not a boring conference, you know
The speaking panels are going to be like court motions where there's a judge and you'll have to argue
Uh around a controversial web 3 topic and stuff and it's a festival with music with fun activations
It's a little bit different than what you see in other conferences. So i'm pretty hyped about that
Oh shit, I just realized something i've spoken to art style before because I was pitching them something like um
I had like uh some project going on with like a big artist
And we wanted to maybe do something together and then you're right
They don't do things the way everyone else does it because they have their members like they're like a real dow
And one of their focus things is having in real life events for their members
And a lot of them are based in dubai as well
So it kind of works out that things are there and I can't for the life
I remember the name of the guy I spoke to because I was there I had a meeting with this guy
um and like my boss at like uh
Babson abs where I can do like subcontracting
And it's like katie it's her friend and um the other co-founder she was um, she was living in dubai at the time
Um, but yeah, they do lots of really cool stuff
And they said to us, you know, you know, we should come back to them when we have some some more things
We're going to set up some art gallery thing with them. So
They're always doing like really
weird and innovative stuff like art style, um, but yeah, maybe we should uh speak afterwards in the dms because um
My um, like one of the things that I do and I subcontract and work with um, this uh
Web3 marketing agency called bab's labs and it's a women-led marketing agency
So um the founders and most of the people out there are women and so there's loads of these cool chicks, uh me
We're doing all this stuff. They have like this thing, um web. She uh, which is
promoting like diversity and
And and women in uh in web3 and they do events like uh in dubai
So they might have one at that same time because I know that they were working on like two new new events
Uh, and if you're like, uh organizing those kind of things then maybe there could be some synergies there
100 percent honestly like
I can't wait to talk to you because i'm really interested in stuff like that and 100 percent the event is interested in stuff
Like that and by the way just to talk to like ironically how crazy irl events are
Like as I said in lebanon like it's it's a small community like the smallest community maybe
I met art style because they did a launching event in lebanon and this is how we are now
This is why we are now working together. So going to irl events literally lets you
Gives you like a thousand usually you have like 10 opportunities every single day
On x or like online in irl events you have like a thousand opportunities like each person is an opportunity
Each person you can't connect with is a new opportunity to weather work together or maybe even a friendship
Learning something new getting an alpha like it doesn't need to be a work opportunity and this is what's crazy about it. You know
I think that's amazing. I think you're you're you're kind of living the dream. I think a lot of people who are in like web3, um, like
Especially I see on the twitter and stuff. They want to
Work like full-time web3. Now. I don't work full-time in web3
I work a bit and I guess you're also not full-time, but you're kind of getting there and I guess
That's kind of a good tip. So if someone wants to start
Web3 more like a job like like, you know, like you're doing marion then I guess in real life events
That's a good place to start and build those contacts
Actually about that topic I I did something something crazy
I don't recommend to repeat that at home
But I was a law student and I quit law in 2021 to do nfts all day like full-time
I didn't have anything like I didn't have anything
A guarantee that this was going to work out. I just like threw myself in
I think the thing that made me be able to work full-time in web3
And this is something that a lot of people talk about and a lot of people want to reach it is really super easy
Really easy like it is the easiest thing in the world because you just need to talk to as many people as you can
There's something grant cordon says that is
Contacts equals contracts. So if you don't know anybody there's no way you can find a job
You know, you can't just like talk to one person and expect them to give you a job
But the more you talk to people the more insights you get from them
And then you learn about those insights and you repeat them and then you give insights and you create content
The first thing that I started doing back in 2021, of course, the meta was different
But the first thing that I started doing was I tried to trade an nft. It turned out to be a scam
so what did I do I went on a random nft project and I was like
I can be I can help you moderate the discord for a free nft and they were like, okay, and then I used this experience
To talk to another project where I literally gave so much value before I talked to them and they were like, this is so cool
Do you want to work with us full-time and I was like 100 percent
So now it's a little bit harder because it's not 2021 anymore
And there are a lot of people offering services
But the more you talk to people the more opportunities come to you
And you want the opportunities to come to you more than you you can okay
this is the last thing i'm going to say because i'm rambling a lot, but
You can go to the opportunity but not ask for it to be an opportunity because then you will push them away. So
People like to get ideas themselves instead of you asking them to do something for you
So if you want to work with for example, I don't know uh with amir
Okay, you don't go to amir space and tell him. Hey, I want to work with you you go to amir space
But you just give free value and then you leave
And then you go there again and then you leave at some point at some point he's gonna he's gonna be like
Oh my god, this person is so cool. I want to have them by my side
And this is how you land opportunities to be honest
I'm gonna pick on marion a little bit in the interest of responsible
Social everything like it's a gift marion and you're underselling yourself. Not everybody can network
Not everybody can get a place in in web 3 and provide value. It takes a personality. It takes grit
It's difficult out here. Like I don't people have to know what they're signing up for and not everybody should be
On the front lines of peopling in general
Uh, is there 100 opportunity and can everybody make an attempt sure?
Um, but there's also gatekeeping. There's also just like basic social cues and we've seen there's a lot of people out here who don't necessarily understand those
Um, there's there's a way to do things and and so I think you're underselling yourself a little bit with how you've grown your network
How hard it and difficult it can be for a lot of people
Uh, and definitely for most people
Trying to go full-time in web 3, uh, it is a different time
It's a different market and and be socially responsible. So, um, yeah, I just want to throw that out there as a disclaimer
Of course be socially responsible. I like that thing that you said zippy is an emir
Is it fine if I if I try to like respond to that?
Yeah, go for it. Yeah, also another thing. Um
What you're talking about the arts now, it'd be great if you could like pin up some tweets
Like uh, so people can go and check it out. So, you know, feel free to to do that
But yeah respond to to that, please
Okay, definitely. Let me pin the trailer. It's a really really fun trailer, by the way
Uh, wait for it like watch the watch the whole thing because then there's like a cinematic storytelling plot twist
At the end, which is really really fun
What emperor said is really valid and this is why I said like
No, nobody repeat that at home
The fact that I just quit everything randomly and by the way, I did that when I was really scared
I wasn't I wasn't nobody is born this way
This is the first thing that I want to say I was born the shyest person on the planet
I used to when I was a child when we had people over I used to literally shove my head behind my mom's back
And i'm not exaggerating. I used to do that in front of people because I was the shyest person on the planet
When school used to end my my mom was was a teacher at the same school where I used to go
So she's literally in the same building
And if she used to be late one second to appear in front of my eyes
I used to cry my eyes out because I was so scared. So
Okay, but I think every if if you don't want to be a person who's talking on spaces or like networking with people
At least you can try doing it in dms and at first it's gonna suck
I used to english is my third language
I was never fluent at english when I was when I was younger, but you just learn to do it
You know the first time is gonna suck the second time is gonna suck the 10th time is gonna suck
So anybody who's anybody who's able to be perseverant can do anything that they want
It doesn't have to be speaking on spaces. It could be just sending out really thoughtful dms
It could be it could be networking with just one person instead of trying to get catch the attention of 50
It can be a lot of things
It can be being a really good dev and like helping out a project with code and just giving them something for free
Through a friend who's most more extroverted than them. It can be a lot of things
As as long as you find the skill that you're good at you can capitalize on that and the first time is gonna
You cannot get to your 50th time without going through your first time. And this is something a lot of people don't get
It's like I have been in this space
24 hours seven days a week for more than three years
And this is why I still I still I still forget some words now because english was never my first language not even my second
But it's because I spoke on so many rooms on clubhouse before in so many spaces and I had the courage to go up and speak
Um, and this is why I can now I can now speak a little bit without people noticing that I have an arab accent, you know
So it can be anything. I mean if a person really wants something from the bottom of their heart
They can do it and again, it doesn't need to be what I did at all
Yeah, I don't agree with this honestly like I couldn't see any better because uh english is also not my first language
I grew up speaking arabic as well
So yeah, it depends how hard you want the opportunity and like how hard you want to go
You don't have to necessarily speak in spaces
Uh like marianne said you can just send the message put yourself out there
I mean it depends where your goal is in web 3 obviously depends if you're building something you obviously gotta reach out. Uh,
Just make connections. Uh
Just uh, like go to the opportunities you you can't just accept them to come to you
And that's how things work. You don't just like making new account and expecting people to follow you
Obviously, you just gotta like put out content. You gotta reach out to people you gotta post some good stuff
That's just like one example
But yeah, I agree with your point amir where are you from i'm from iraq
Amazing nice to meet you nice to meet you too. I've been to 11 and ones actually when I was eight
It was really nice i've moved like five times before
Yeah, oh jessie your hands up so we'll go with you
Mary ann I want to applaud you for doing what you did
Let me tell you it's not easy
To step outside of your comfort zone, right because you had your mind you were you were set to do law
But you completely went a different way because you didn't you didn't feel that the law was calling to you, right?
You absolutely just was like, you know what?
I'm going to face the fear and freaking do it anyway
And you did it you guys anything can be learned as long as just exactly what you guys were saying
Anything can be learned if you put your mind to it, you can learn anything
You can learn charisma you can learn confidence. You can learn speaking anything. You want can be learned
Even if you're an introvert, there are so many introverted speakers out there
It's not even funny and why because they put their mind to it. They did the work. They went out there
They took the courses. They got mentors. They learned from people who already had what they wanted, right? This is how you do it
If you want that, you know little safe little in-the-box life, then yeah, you can you can do that
Um, but you're not going to live to your fullest potential
And if you really fear something that is that one thing that you need to do
You need to just go bite the bullet and do it because growth happens outside of your comfort zone
So kudos to you Marianne for doing it and making it work for you
Just putting yourself out there and making yourself work at work for you
And then you keep getting better and better and better as you go along, right?
Whatever you don't know you learn and you pick up along the way, right?
so kudos to you and i'm going to check that out what you put in the nest because
The community that I am in they are now based in dubai. So i'm not I don't know if they're going to go to
Um that event that you're talking about so I want to check in with them
No, sorry, I just like no I love them both ladies, you know, I love you both
Um, but cap like I I think that it's important for people to find what they love do what they love and excel at what they're
Good at and peopling is a skill and it can't always be learned. You have to have empathy
You have to have intuition you have to have mental health
You have to have various things and I don't think that that everybody should be convinced that they can learn
Every part of how to be networking or being a content creator or doing whatever
Maybe that's not their niche like there are people who just don't understand social cues
There are people born that way that don't understand that you can't force that you can't necessarily learn all of that
And it's it's not something everybody should strive for especially
We're in a business that has a lot of niches that need to be filled where people can offer all different kinds of things
Do I think that anybody can make it in web3?
But do I think that they have to find what fits what they're good at?
Maybe they should stay behind the computer and only look at charts and dm that information to somebody else
I don't know but do I think that they can that everybody can learn how to people
No, I don't think that everybody can learn how to people I think that there are certain things that are
Absolutely, um innate in how people are born how they move intuition empathy all the types of things
And especially in web3, we've got a lot of neurodivergent people running around
And and when I say neurodivergent, I mean, there's also a lot of people not just for the meme on the spectrum
But actually on the spectrum
So I think that putting that out there is possibly setting a realistic unrealistic expectation for certain people
Um, yeah, that's what I think
I hear you, you know, um as I said like I said that
When I was when I was talking before is that not everybody
I'm not saying that everybody needs to be networking or speaking on spaces or even like DMing 10 people every day
But for a person to be in web3, they definitely are interested in people
I don't know like whatever it can be a person who just codes as I said and just sends it to their friend
And their friend sends it over to somebody else
Whatever everybody is good at least one thing in their lives
Even if it's just staying in bed all day and they can capitalize on that
This is this is what I mean by like just finding what you like and just
Going because whatever it is that you're gonna do in life
Even if it's not related to web3 not related to people if you wanna if you want to learn how to eat glass
I mean the first time it's gonna be painful, you know
This is what I mean and by the way, just just just one thing
I I am clinically diagnosed with ADHD and anxiety and borderline personality disorder
And I was an antidepressants for more than one year. So I I really get what you mean, you know
I don't know whenever you want to it doesn't need to be networking or people
But whenever there is anything that you really deeply want you you can you can find a way you can find a way
That's not true. I really really wanted tom cruz at one point in my life before I knew a lot about him
And it never happened maryanne never happened
At first I mean, okay, okay, I don't even
I agree with you maryanne. You can do I don't I'm not gonna limit anybody
Just like i'm not gonna limit myself. I feel like you can do anything you want to do
I mean you can be this introvert and you can learn confidence. You can learn charisma
You could be the you could be the dullest stick in the freaking, you know bunch or stack or whatever
Or do we have certain specific?
Mental issues that you know
Just don't want to take that step or don't even have the will of the desire to learn then, you know
there are there are exceptions to everything but
we're not going to sit there and say that just because
You think that they can't do it that they can't do it or or someone else's i'm not going to let someone else's opinion
Decide for me. You know what i'm saying? So, I mean I respect, you know, everyone's point of view. I just don't
You know not everyone if you put your mind to something that and they want to do it. I feel like they can
You do realize that's latent bias though
Like you're you're you're disenfranchising and taking away if somebody literally doesn't have that capability
It's putting undue undue pressure on somebody there. There are medical instances
There are neurochemical instances where they can't do it no matter how much they want to
Somebody who's born without the ability to walk can't walk if they want to so when you put that narrative out there
It's it's disenfranchising to somebody who who's like, no like I wish I could but i'm telling you I can't do you see what I mean?
So modern advances in technology
If you know some people can't walk they
They have these, you know helper robotic legs and things like that
Yeah, by the way before I say what I want to say
I absolutely love it when there's a conversation where people we're not when not everybody agrees on the same thing
This is the most mentally stimulating thing ever. I absolutely love it
Um, and it's been a while since i've had such a conversation. I'm so happy right now
We have to be realistic. Oh aj, you know empress is right like sometimes
I don't know like you could I do have i'm going to talk about myself. I'm not going to talk about something
That's not related to me. You know, you could tell me I have adhd. That's very intense
Okay, and sometimes you could I know that there's a task that I can do and it it could be the easiest
Task on the planet, but my mind just can't get me to do it
And it's physically impossible for me to do it no matter what I do, you know
so this is 100 valid this is 100 try and and there are cases way harder than adhd, you know
Imagine like adhd is something where you can work your way around
Around anything, you know, you can find a way but there are there are cases where you can really not find a way
You know like if a person is blind you can expect them to like tell you what color is that
This is what empress is trying to say
but I guess I guess the the situation here is that
Every person that finds what they are capable of doing
If they if they make a little bit more effort because sometimes
Sometimes you can you can you can do something but you just fall into victim mentality and don't trust in yourself enough
And this is what oaj is talking about and here you can push yourself
And you can push your boundaries and you can push your limits because you know that you are capable of doing it
But you're just too scared
But it's a little bit different than those extreme cases than empress that empress is talking about
I think I think I think that's it
Analogy is is pretty on point. That's the thing like the people need to feel validated that they're like
It's disheartening especially when you're talking to a child if you say no, you can sit there and you can sit still
That's physically painful for some kids that are that have adhd and especially who are struggling with any sensory integration issues
And it's hard when it carries in a kid. Can we always get better?
Can we always do marianne you witnessed it firsthand? You were laughing your ass off at me last night
That was my version of impulse control
I've come leaps and bounds on my impulse control in this space and how I fire back but
Um, I do I go out of my way as somebody who worked with a lot of juvenile delinquents and behaviorally challenged kids
And then um now we're in this space
Which is pretty much no different from juvenile delinquents and behaviorally challenged kids on any different day
To acknowledge the fact that the expectation of the norm and what people can achieve
Isn't necessarily something that they actually can achieve
It's what we I hate the word should we put should on people a lot in this space founders should behave this way
Communities should move that way your assets should be held or whatever else the floor should be this. Um, I hate that word
I I absolutely hate it. So I push back pretty hard on that narrative frequently
But I want to say hi to my good friend donna who came up who's also doing amazing things in this space in a mirror
You're looking at you got a lot of powerful obnoxious women in here in the best way possible. So what's up donna?
Hey empress. Uh, i'm doing great
Uh, I like uh, I was busy doing other stuff and listening to this space and it was an interesting conversation
uh, and I actually came to
to back you up because uh
Yeah, like I do think that consistency is not is not enough like doing something over and over again for a long time
It doesn't guarantee that you you will succeed at doing it
Of course, sometimes you need to iterate sometimes you need to to pivot but sometimes you just need to change
Uh the whole thing what you're doing. So let's for example
You're hearing of three like for two years and all you did is losing money and you didn't make
Like you didn't get any success from this like even a tiny
Maybe maybe i'm just saying like I don't want to scare people but maybe
Uh, your success is not meant in this field and that's okay
how do you call the growth mindset not not fixed mindset and uh
What you said Marianne, uh is important here not working is important
But I think it comes in the second place first
You need to learn skill and provide value and being able to provide value to people
So what's the point to network with people and they don't get anything from you, you know, that's just uh, my uh
uh, my short uh, my short take uh regarding this
Really think zippy amir we're dominating the whole thing. I appreciate you. Nana
I'm enjoying it as well. And like let me just like make a little comment on this like, uh
What do we have here? We've got 10 people on stage and we've got uh 40 40 percent women and 60 guys
And that's kind of like one of the things that like, you know
When when amira started these spaces and if you've like basically been involved in this little ecosystem building
You know, we're trying to curate a different vibe
Um, and that means, you know allowing diverse voices
So neuro diversion like sex diversion, you know
And and a little bit like what marianne was saying like we also want diversions of opinions
So I don't think uh people need to apologize because they're having like a good conversation
And I think it's interesting people will stay in the audience and if people think it sucks, they'll just fuck off
And you know the audience i've been keeping on it is growing, you know, so and people are like, you know
Reacting and stuff. So, you know, please don't apologize because you have like good things to say
Um, you know and we're enjoying this conversation
And you know if we think it's like terrible like, you know, we'll just you know change the subject at some point
But you know, everyone's being respectful. No one's doing like ad hominem dumb shit, you know, and it's just uh
I have like the worst arguments with my you know, good close friends, uh, we love each other
But it doesn't mean that we all think the same right? So
You can sometimes you can just agree to disagree
Um, so I think uh, please, you know, you know, don't apologize for having like ideas and thoughts, you know, it's good. Um
A mass what we want to encourage and uh, you know, if if people don't like it, they'll just fuck off
Um, and you know, maybe that's not the space we're trying to create. So, uh, we don't need to worry about that
Uh, so, uh, Marianne, what do you say? Uh, just uh, one quick to add to that
I'll never make my spaces one-sided
So this like there can be disagreements and two sides to a conversation and that's what we're here for honestly hearing both sides
Both pov's I know some uh spaces only like shut down the people who are who disagree with them
And they only make their spaces one-sided. So yeah, I'll never make my spaces like that
I think there should be uh two sides because there's always two sides to a story, you know, so there could be uh
Two point of views, uh two conversation going on
So yeah, there should be disagreements and different opinions
Uh, we'll go to you Marianne
I am currently so happy because as I was listening to that I just got a confirmation of a huge person
Who's going to be a speaker in dubai who wasn't able to make it but now he's a anyway
We'll announce that announce that soon. I wanted to say
Yeah, it's not clear at all, right
Oh my god, I forgot what I was going to say one second
Yeah, my kid has ADHD and autism I should know better
No worries. I remembered I was going to say that
The cool thing about everything that empress and donna and all of you said is that every single
Like point we made is a huge fine is a really really really fine line
People could have stuff. They cannot do but there's a fine line between really something that you can't do
And getting into the victim mentality of taking something that you have like a condition or something as an excuse
Um to not do something just because you're lazy or just because you don't want to put in the hardware
It's fine. There's a fine line and there's a fine line between knowing whether to leave a space
Completely or changing something small or changing something bigger
You know, it all requires emotional intelligence. It all requires
I think I don't think it requires like iq. I don't think it requires being book smart at some cases
But it really requires emotional intelligence and this is something that people could develop if they learn about it
Of course, I mean, I don't want to generalize but
This space needs a lot one of the things like
For example, I do having I do have anxiety now. I treated it and everything but
It helped me with being extremely empathetic to a point where like it's too empathetic
At some point in life. I was a people pleaser, you know, i'm not that anymore
But I I was born not born like my childhood trauma
Made me empathetic too empathetic and this helped me in web3, you know
So it was a bad thing that got translated into something good
So you could work on yourself
You could find a way around stuff and you could find something that you're incredible at
And yeah, be careful that there's a fine line between something
You really cannot do and something that you just don't want to do but deep inside you can
But if you're a jerk face without emotional intelligence
Feel free to go get some mental health and then come back here and then hang out with us. Otherwise, please stop making us suffer
I thought it was interesting what you said Marianne about that anxiety and how you got treatment
Is it would you be willing to share like, you know how you got over that?
I mean there's many people that suffer that even like, you know, if they don't admit it
I had the courage to try multiple types of therapy
Um, I wasn't scared of telling telling my therapist like what what was going through what what I was going through
I also like for example, my environment is really hard because like
Like those area of stereotypes that parents are tough and stuff. They're real. I had really great parents
But you know, I mean like being a girl
I'm by the way, not a lot of people know that i'm i'm really young. Okay, so in in arab countries
These girls and like even boys they don't move out if they're not married like they stay with their parents until they get married
Like this is the norm. Like this is the normal thing that goes on, you know, and
As soon as I quit university and got shit from my parents because again in arab societies
You're whether a doctor engineer lawyer or a discretist family and imagine i'm telling them hey
I want to buy pictures of monkeys on the internet
That was like the epitome of of being like the worst child ever
So I started having a lot of problems with my family. I was always the black sheep
I never wanted like my life to be traditional and normal and stuff like that. So I also had to
To fight to move out. So this was a really even though I had anxiety
And was stressed about a lot of things and anxiety is really hard because it's not stress
It's being worried all the time about every single thing that you do like
If you if you don't have anything to worry about you're worried that
What if i'm not feeling because I have cancer like it's that bad, you know
I'm saying it in a funny way because I like to spread things in a in a humoristic way for people to like relate to
It better, but it is that bad
I went to therapy while I moved out. I adopted a dog and
Knew that this was the best thing to do even though my parents were really angry
I stopped talking to them for a couple months, but I was able to I was able to like see the bigger picture
So I I was in therapy for more than a year
I also took antidepressants that were a temporary treatment
And I like I wasn't scared of meds
A lot of people are scared of them because they are scared that they'll be addicted to them forever
Like they were gonna help me treat myself better and at a faster pace
I could have done it without them 100 but it would it would have been slower and I couldn't afford that
And so I took him I went through therapy discovered what therapy was best for me. I had
Really really supportive close friends. Um, I caught off all the friends that weren't like really
Pushing me forward professionally and all of that and it was really painful because I loved them
But they were just toxic for me. So it kept the people who were healthy. I had so in summary
I had to make really tough decisions
And I had like people who were more experienced than me and my close friends and the closest people in my life
Um, I I listened to them. I have the big I don't have a big ego, but I have a like
I tend to like believe that like I want to do what I believe in but sometimes you just really need to listen to people when you're
Not in a good place mentally because they're seeing things clearly
so I just had to let go and listen to some people and listen to my therapist and let go a little bit because
Being anxious is also the fear of being out of control
And you I had to like be at peace with myself that
You cannot be in control 100 of the time in life
And so focus on the things that you can control and there are a couple of professional exercises you need to do
Um a lot of breathing exercises grounding exercises depends on your case
But yeah, just let go a little bit. You're not the king of the world. You're human. You're not right
Just don't be scared to go to therapy
It's really really so cool because like it's like talking to a friend but a friend who knows what to tell you
And you know that what they're telling you is true
And yeah, I mean at some point
At some point I started doing better and I kept pushing and pushing and pushing and I kept the close people to my life
And I want to say one last thing which is it's not linear linear at all
Like I had my ups. I had really I had downs while I was treating myself and that's completely normal. So
The biggest biggest biggest lesson I would say is
You know be easy on yourself. Don't judge yourself a lot to hold yourself accountable, but don't judge yourself
There's a big difference between those two two points
Hold yourself accountable because you don't want to fall into that victim mentality. No, if you make a mistake own it
Apologize fix it take responsibility for it, but don't judge yourself
So accept that mistake and failure is human but also know how to fix it if it's your fault
So, um, yeah, it's a long process, but don't be scared of going through it because it's worth it
Yeah, that's hard, uh, you know
What you were saying there was like not judging yourself. I think
That's where I think a lot of people need help. That's not easy to do
I mean, I want to echo all those sentiments. I want to add though, like
Um, there are people here looking for mental health here. Uh quit that it's a social media network
Go get mental health from someplace
Um wherever you can uh, and and because we're very ethnocentric oftentimes when we're having these conversations, uh
There are places where accessing mental health is really
Prohibitive, um, and and the one thing I would say to that is what anybody can do even where you're getting mental health is educate yourself
If you can try to get an accurate diagnosis at a minimum
you can do a lot of research now that you have the the uh information at the
Tip of your fingers because I know um, especially in the uk
There's a large backup for a lot of um public accessible mental health and things like that
But you can do a lot of research. Um, do your best not to self-diagnose
But sometimes you have to deal with the tools you can so just keep looking and looking and see what you can
Help out there. Um, and then I think that uh,
Like mary to maryann's point. Um, you'll go fucking crazy if you're looking for accountability or control especially in this space from other people
Um, i'm a huge fan of stay in your own damn lane
I tell people that all the time if you start operating from what you can control for instance
If you go into a space and you hate everything that's being said
Leave the space don't go up there and tell everybody how to run their space. Don't go out there and do whatever else
Leave the space take care of your own energy. Don't try to project and get into other things. Um, and that's the same with projects
That's the same with um, I hear a lot of people bitching about founders bitching about they think things should be this way
I really hear a lot of people who don't even aren't even holders in projects having really violent opinions on certain projects
They love to go after frank d gods you whatever that community is happy
Leave them the frick alone
If you got a bag then great go there or at least buy one if you're gonna bitch about it
And then you can have a voice, but otherwise we don't really care. Let that community alone people
Amen empress stop footing my use
I love the youth community, you know this
I know you do i'm just saying in general like people
You know like the the pretty mean like leave frank alone
But like uh internally within like youth specifically like uh, you know
frank is a very divisive character because they see him like um, uh, he cares like a lot about d gods and uh,
Utes is like the ginger stepchild. So um, they
100 percent consensus that they like him. Uh, and as I delved into the community I was like, oh, right
Not everyone's like I love frank. Yes demon
I would I would I would somewhat disagree with that because there's some things that actually hurt the entire industry
Uh, like for instance sagabond, uh still being in azuki
That hurts the entire industry because people looking from the outside in say see there's no accountability in this industry
Frank leaving the project for months at a time to go party
That hurts the entire industry because people from the outside don't want to come in because they see no accountability
So I think that there is there is a point where showing accountability is important
um and and people uh people acknowledging
The things that clearly aren't okay in any in any place other than this space where we've made them. Okay
Um is the only way that we're going to get more people to come into this space because when they see things like that
And they see communities just blowing it off and not caring and they see nobody else caring
Then they then they then they go with the stereotype that this isn't completely unregulated market
Nobody cares and we have no standards because because nobody is showing any standards
And it's you can't say that somebody can blow off a project for months at a time and go party
And and and that being okay with that is is having standards nowhere else in this entire world
Is that acceptable no other industry is that acceptable? You can't say that rugging three projects
Um, and you know, basically stealing all those people's money is okay
And and that person can continue making millions of dollars off the project in no other industry is that acceptable and so
um by whether you're a holder or not if you care about the market then uh
Then you know, it's my opinion that it's your responsibility to call out these things that aren't acceptable anywhere else
For the sole fact that people looking in are seeing it
People from the outside looking in are seeing it and they're not getting in because they they're hearing everybody say
Because the vast majority of people think nfts are a scam
The vast majority of people have never touched an ft and don't even understand the technology
But the vast majority of people think nfts are a scam, but we do nothing but enforce that when we
Whether a holder or not are not holding these people accountable for things that are
unacceptable in the regular world and so um, so I I don't agree with that on the topic of mental health
Um, I do think that uh, I do think that hallucinogens
play a decent role for some people in uh in helping mental health as well
Before before I got treatment for my depression and anxiety
Um pharmaceutical treatment and even afterwards I I used to take use hallucinogens
And that was probably the only thing that kept me alive at certain points
Was the use of hallucinogens
And uh, I think it's really dangerous to put that forth in a space where that could be something
That's really counterproductive for somebody else especially because we're not mental health providers
I think that anything that's altering
Is not something that should be put out there as an advocacy for mental health when we don't know what somebody's biochemical makeup is
I think it's kind of reckless to be honest
Well, i'd say people should make their own decisions on that sort of a thing, but it is something to consider
It is something to look at studies
And uh, you know the studies the studies are there and they do show
Um decent uh decent things and you but you do have to definitely research what you're getting what you're what you're doing
And what you're getting into and decide if that's right for you
Um, one thing one thing I will say about hallucinogens is unless you really know what you're uh
What you're doing and really are ready for the experience then you shouldn't do it whether it's for mental health or whether it's for anything else
Um, you know, that's uh, that's just a general hallucinogen advice
Is don't take hallucinogens unless you're really ready for for for what you're what you're about to do and you want that
Um, you know, um because otherwise, uh, you're you're very likely to have a bad trip
And so uh, but I want to push back on your on your first point before we before we go further down there
I want I want to say that
It's it's interesting because you and I politically align on a lot of things most times and so you to me though
You're you're coming off as policing which is the opposite of the decentralized place
Like the whole idea is if you don't the best way that we police in this ecosystem is actually non-participation
If you don't agree with what's going on
Then you don't put your attention there or your money there you abstain and then you advocate in other ways
But like your point of frank went and partied for months and that's reckless for the rest of the thing
It's it's counterintuitive because that that community that holds bags there is happy
And if somebody from the outside came in and saw that and talked to them
That's how they're onboarding people
They are onboarding people from the outside coming in like that
So it doesn't make sense to say that would drive people away and then to also say that we don't do these things we don't
Allow for somebody who rigged a project three times in anywhere else. We don't do what I mean
That's the definition of of the american ecosystem for the most part. I mean we absolutely
Support rigors. We absolutely support con artists. We absolutely do all that stuff outside of this ecosystem. It's not just relegated to web 3
I don't know. I would completely disagree and I wouldn't call it policing. I would call it just acknowledging
And and I would say that's what activists do in the country in countries is they acknowledge the fault of the country
Acknowledging the faults within the industry is just showing that you love the industry
And and it's part of loving the industry
And um, I I would not say that many people from the outside are looking at that and and and looking and
Maybe maybe some of the holders friends are they're bringing their friends in or something
I don't know, but everybody that I know thinks mft's are a scam and then they see things like this and they
When when nobody's really speaking out against it then it reinforces it even more
Um, I mean there's not speaking out against something isn't policing it
Um, that that's uh, there those are whole totally different things
Um, but uh, we're talking about civil rights. We're talking about best business business practices like this isn't
This isn't a state of advocacy. We're talking about where people choose to put their money in their attention economy
We're not talking about any kind of civil rights action here
yeah, but we're talking about the image of the industry and
Trying to get more people to put money in is very difficult when
everyone thinks your industry is a scam and
You're you're showing it more and when you when you talk about it, you know in america, everybody rugs and we support that
But we don't blatantly support it. And that's the thing like
When somebody blatantly comes out and says hey, I stole from all these people
Um, you know literally made a serial bankruptcy declare a president in the united states
How can you say we don't blatantly support it like and I don't want to get political
I'm, just saying like when it comes to business practice if you follow the line like as a country
We took somebody who has declared bankruptcy multiple times and made them president of the united states
So to say that doesn't happen in irl versus web3 is
Societally bankruptcy has been considered theft
I mean societally bankruptcy isn't considered theft
And I get your point. I don't necessarily disagree with it. But what i'm saying is it has to be discreet
It's not it's not considered theft
Now if people knew the history if people knew more of the history behind those bankruptcies
Then there were things uh that most people would consider theft that were behind it
Um, like how how the new jersey casinos were sold and all of that, but that's a whole another story
You can't blatantly say hey, I stole a bunch of money from a bunch of people
Um or in any other industry
Other than you know, this industry and that's where that's where people
Uh that I know from the outsider getting caught up is just the lack of accountability
combined with the lack of regulation
There's there's no accountability or regulation and they see that and they're like, I want to stay out
Um, because it's just too much for me. Okay, and uh, I get that you've been talking non-stop like
Can somebody else have the floor?
Hello, i'm new here. I just have one quick request. I feel like I have a lot to add to this conversation
Um, but I would like to be the only woman on the call if that's possible if all the other women could be dropped
If not, i'll just leave it's fine, but I just feel like other women as soon as they see me
They hear me talk. They're like, okay
She's got beauty and brains and they start acting pretty weird towards me
So i've always liked to be in environments where i'm the only woman
Can can you make sure you hold real still so I can get your at and block you
I feel really intimidated. It's fine. I feel intimidated by your brains and your beauty. So just hold real still
It's not supposed to be funny. It's actually like a real thing. I deal with on a daily basis when I come
Because you see women in these spaces and like this industry
They're not i'm not gonna lie. This is for me. Just so
This is hilarious the most attractive. I mean
You're so cute. You're so you're an older woman
So I wouldn't really be intimidated by it. Well, i'm not intimidated by
Oh added herself said the wrong way. Did she just laugh other women? Did somebody kick her off?
I did not I kicked her off
If the first thing someone says is that kick off all the other women
We're not going there and then it just didn't sound like it was a joke either. I was like, okay
This is you know, no, sorry. It was it was a joke to me. That was funny
I find humor in people like that. They're hilarious
Not a joke, but I know I don't think it was a joke. So
I don't I don't accept people
You know what we said before, you know, we want diverse voices and we don't shut people down and we can disagree
And that's okay, you know, we can disagree. But um, yeah, i'm not interested in them shutting people down
So that's so I kicked her off. So i'll admit that so if someone wants to angry at me then that's fine
I just thought it was funny. I thought we could you know have a few more laughs
Yeah, but I mean, you know, we all have like different roles in this and and and like, you know in our little private chat
We we like, you know the little in joke is like i'm the dickhead in that chat
Please cut him the nasty on the bad cop
So I you know i'll continue doing that and then i'll take the heat
Um, so yeah, let's just reset a little bit
You know, um, you know these faces usually go for about two hours
We've done like we're about an hour and a half in and I think they're very uh interesting and engaging
And good discussions. So, uh, let's let's carry on with that. I think people are enjoying it and um, you know
Uh more and more people are dropping in because we're you know, talking about things that maybe some people don't like to talk about especially
Um, I don't know. There's too much, uh good vibes
All the time and everyone's like yeah, we will agree on everything
Um, and I think if we're going to move things forward in the space in general
Um, we have to be able to air our opinions and disagree and and have those discussions and then you know, people come to their own conclusions
Uh, but we always remain friends. Anyway, you know
Everything everyone says and we have fun. Anyway, so, uh, let's uh, we got a candy up here
Hi, hi, I just missed what happened completely because I was turning down my music but like people getting all
upset over disagreements about
Profile pictures on the internet is so stupid to me. It's like oh my god
you're gonna not always agree with people so
I told you what happened just like a dance
Totally wild fair warnings
There's a lot of women up here that are very good friends and allies to each other. It's wild go ahead. I'm here
She seems serious about it, too. That's what
That's why I think she's the friend of that last ferret lady
It might be that was weird and funny don't know
That's what we call. What is that? Uh pattern interrupt?
I just want to pet the spirit
I like when she added herself though and said i'm intimidated then she's like, oh wait. No, they're intimidated by me
I was like, oh, oh that sucked. Oh
It's really it's literally social media no one cares like that
Yeah, and and also just so people know nft demon and I go way back. Uh, we love to get into it
We like to scrap like zippy said. Um, yeah, it's it's it's actually all love up here
We just have a lot of different personalities with a lot of different takes on how to move forward
So that's what happens when you get like friends in like a
In the right space, right you you dream together you maybe like have a little blunt or two
And then you just shoot the shit and you know
That's that's what it's about
Uh, sorry candy. We're gonna say something. I was gonna say like as soon as you were saying like
Don't come up here and tell us to remove all the other women from the space
I was so tempted to just do that right away, but I didn't want to throw off the vibe
Tell us to care if they didn't like have a good friends
I'm gonna kick the head person
And surely it's like what
Yeah, um, but we're supposed to be like doing web 3
Unwrapped and like we were into this whole nft thing and it was very uh, and
Again debate with each other
Um, but one thing that like, you know before we have these spaces, you know, it's not just completely just randomness
We usually have like there's a few topics you want to talk about
And I want to go back to that list. Uh, and one of the
Uh cool things once also I want like the emphasis dots thing, right? So I missed dots completely. Sorry. Amir
What you're saying? I was gonna quickly say I would appreciate it. Everyone could retweet the
Post above the space. I pinned the top top so it's easier to just go and retweet that also make sure to
Follow all the speakers and all the hosts because I see have the listeners here aren't even following me
So I would appreciate if you guys do that if you're enjoying the space
And yeah, i'll go back to you
Yeah, so there's this like this kind of cool project that dropped and it's pumped quite a lot and
The only reason it pumped is because I didn't buy any
Um, and uh, you know, so that's that's how it goes
And so, you know, i'll take that from the team like if anyone a successful project just uh, do not give me white list
Um, but anyway, it's called dots
And empress it'd be really nice
It could you like maybe pin like a post at the top with like an example of like a cool dot like, you know
To see the artwork so we know what we're talking about and uh, i'll hand the mic over to you
Maybe you could tell us a little bit about the project
Uh, you know because um, you know, it's been doing really well and and I quite like it
And i've felt a little bit jealous that you have like, you know a few nice ones
Yeah, I mean I I got I definitely got a bag of dots and i'm trying to multitask here
Um, i'm gonna put I could put my bag up there, but i'm gonna put one one of my favorite ones up top for people to see
Dots is a project king fudd. Um dropped king fudd is a
Controversial influencer who's working his way back into credibility
Um, he was affiliated with the network token
Um, a lot of people take issue with that
But if people were paying attention even during his time with that team
He was usually fudding the hell out of him. Hence the name king fudd
Um, he's he's done been building this for months. I think presale was months ago
I mean, it feels like it was in the works forever
Um, and it was it was relatively cheap to get in what I really liked is it wasn't really gate kept
What he would do is he would throw a
Uh tweet up that was like, hey, do you want presale on this project? Um, and then he would respond to people
And I like that because we see a lot of gatekeeping that's going on in this space
Um, he came out the I think the art is is just dope. He does a new animation every week
Um, and then there's a lot of uh different things that are uh, quote unquote
Hate this word. We all get we're all like ptsd from this word at this point
But there's a lot of things that are utility is associated with the project
Um, so what he's doing is this thing? Um
Which is basically rolling air drops, uh different air drops assigned to different traits
the first preview we saw if for example is
The Solana Crocs some of these dots are wearing Solana Crocs
So the people that have a dot that's wearing Solana Crocs are going to be getting a pair of
Solana Crocs human size, um in real life
So that is um, you don't know what trait is going to yield what necessarily so the speculation on that is fun
Like with the paintbrush are we all getting a painting with the ninja thing? Is somebody going to come rob me?
I mean, you never know it's king fud. He's a little out there with the games. So
Um, there's that uh, he's doing a multi-tiered whale approach, which I think is really interesting
Uh, you can have seven you can have 15 you can have 25 you can have 50
Those are all like the levels. Um, and you get different access and incentive to having those
Uh, these can be found on magic eden in tensor, uh marketplace
They're about two soul last I checked a little under and soul I think is running at about a hundred dollars
Each so we're looking at like two hundred dollars. Um
The other thing is the rarity there's I think six levels of rarity like as you can tell
I'm pretty heavily invested in this project. I'm pretty bullish on it
Um, and i'm not affiliated by I should have disclosed. I'm I received no allocation. I'm not affiliated. Um, yeah
He still hasn't let us know what that's going to go to but say like you got a legendary dot off the floor
That would be like we're three points versus a rare which might be worth one and a half points something like that
So that's another level of where there's going to be benefits. Um, but low-key complete speculation
Um, and why i'm so heavily uh bought into it is I love the art and i've seen the animations every week
And it's something that I could see like an actual
They remind me of minions from despicable me and it's something I could see that an actual retail company
Or movie studio or something in the future could pick up because I think they're just really cool
I think kids really really love them
And the community is kicking. Um, if you are down on engagement go buy yourself a dot post it up
You'll get ready. You'll get followers. Um, and the discord is like old school
Bull market vibes wild in the holders chat. Um, there's even a black dot rag
That um did a coordinated sweep and that floor is set ridiculously high. I think it's at 20 soul at this point
So, um, they're doing things there. It's it's a multi-pronged attack when this project comes. Um, so it's
Absolutely full disclosure bag bias my second biggest bag, um, and i'm probably gonna buy more
Uh, but yeah, i'm not getting any allocation not affiliated just super bullish on what i'm seeing over there
It's something I haven't seen in a while from the projects
My only other bag of course like big that i'm heavy in is my motherfuckers
So which is the opposite right? No utility no community. So here for it
That's kind of where we're at
And that's why I want to talk about a little bit because sometimes, you know
You come into spaces and they talk about some projects and it's not accessible and I thought this is new and it looks nice
and it's nice to understand it and
Um, the last time I think we talked about some projects, uh in this way
It was like when we had a tiddy in the in the space and we all like kind of sweep this floor
And that did really well for us. By the way
I think the floor on those fookers are like five soul now or something more
And and I was actively getting rubbed in space by like empress and shawty because they were like buying the exact fucking entities
I wanted to do it in the middle of like interviewing him. They were just like, yeah
Let's sweep that magic key. I was like damn you
uh, but yeah, I kind of like what they're doing but like
Um, you've got like a little seal in the audience, but it sounds like this rarity thing with the points
It's pretty similar to sappy seals, right?
Uh, that's definitely what I would like in it too for people who aren't familiar sappy seals
Um get allocated pixel with their staking. Um, and you the brain says my friend shantas down there
She's going to be so proud. She does not have a floor seal. So she makes 60 pixel a day
Because you don't always know it doesn't say when you're going to buy your seal
How much uh each one's points worth or whatever else so she's thrilled with that and the dots
Whatever mechanism they're going to use to allocate those bonus points or whatever is very similar to the seal your dead arms would be
Now I love it, I mean vibes and things, you know, the market's picking up and everyone's hoping like oh i'm the teaser
Kind of come back and I just like seeing those kind of like nice feel good
That's nice. Um, and um, I don't know if an else was common online dots just like put your hand up or whatever
Uh, otherwise you might just move it on like something else so far. So throw your hand up or uh, you know
Forever, you know hold your piece
Um, but the other thing I wanted to ask is like um, so, uh, this was a question like our friend, uh, craig
I threw this out in his space. He has I think that he does on thursday's like craig. Are you awake?
This is like the longest you've ever gone like keeping your mouth shut now if you if you're like, uh,
Like people from the uk and like scousers like keeping keeping them like on the down low
It's basically not possible. So I don't know how he's done it
Uh and not just completely, uh running his mouth all the time, but he's managed it
Here we go. I'm gonna get it slapped in a bit. Um
One of the things I asked in his space
um, and I wanted to like maybe like for him to just give that answer again and see what the other people think like
People saying pudgies might uh flip board apes like in terms of the floor
Uh, so firstly like it like do you think that's going to happen?
Will that change the space in any way or it's just like that will affect those two projects, but you know
Some people say to me that you know board apes kind of tone setters
like for the for the space in some way because
The status of the home if they lose that maybe you know, would produce take that position
So that's it. I'll throw that over to you craig and uh, and then we'll open it up for everyone else
So well mates i've been quiet because i've been
Hammering away and if the island man, you want to see this island that i've built it's looking pretty epic
And then I just started it for about five or ten minutes to speak to me a little lad on the facetime before bedtime
So as I said here we are we're back
But mate, yeah, we touched on this the other day and I think it's a great conversation because
I remember not long after I come into the space
Not necessarily not long after I come into the space, but maybe not long ago go back two years
And a lot of the talk was that
You know if if board apes go to zero, you know, that's
and you know, we look at the exponential growth in the last 12 months of pudgies
And not just pudgies in terms of the floor price
But as an ip as a brand itself
In their growth, you know
Everybody's, you know favorite supermarkets or whatnot. I said I only have to drive around the corner and I can get my hands on
You know this this match, you know these plushies and the prices that's reasonable and
Um, but you know what I say is why can't why can't put your penguins not just put your penguins
Why can't put your projects flip board ape?
You know board ape in their own rights, you know, they've kind of
They've did they're like the kind of everyone knows board ape. Let's say so you come into web tree nft space
everybody knows you'd like to think board ape and at first I'd say they set the precedence and
What they're doing with the other side and the other did
You know from what i've seen the gameplay it looks really good
You know, it looks on par with the triple-a games that have been made, you know, at least what i've seen
But you know said I think the question is is why can't he why can't you know, there's there's no rule book in this space
We kind of as thing as we move along
Uh, you know a lot of foamo drive things, you know a lot of mark
There's a lot of market makers in the space as well
but as I said, I think you've got a lot of brands like pudgy and people like lucer in the space who are real builders and
And you know give credit to them where the credit's due. Well, absolutely. I think the pudgy's can flip board. I
They shot his hippie the mic's back to you there brother
Now let's throw them to the panel. I don't want to
Answer I think some other people have some good opinions there. Uh
Demon, what are you saying?
Um, I think it's very possible
I think yugo labs kind of dropped the ball when it comes to the other side and I don't think they intentionally did it
I think they uh, really really
and uh, and I think that they just uh, it it was it's a much bigger undertaking than they were uh
And and so, um, I don't think there was anything malicious there
But uh, the other side kind of flopped and so yugo labs
Because of that, um, they they may not the next cycle is really hard to predict
We could very easily see the next cycle where there's a whole new round of blue chips and they're they're all
All of the blue chips from last cycle are below the new blue chips that aren't even out yet, you know, or we could see
Um board apes, you know fly, uh again or we could see pudgy penguins flip board apes
Um, you know, I could see I could see all sorts of different scenarios that could go around
Um, it's just going to depend upon once that bone market hits and people start rushing back into nfts again
Uh, hold on craig before we uh do that just want to get some more like, uh opinions then we'll come back to you
Um, uh candy, do you want to comment on this?
um, I don't really have any thoughts on this because I don't care about yuga, but
I mean like I hope pudgy flips them because they're not even trying or like doing anything of value. So
Also, I was going to say more so to do even is because
We talk about kinds of you know, the more historical brands that we're talking about like, you know
I said pudgy's and you know brands that we think that can flip board apes so to say
Now I do think personally a lot of these projects that have minted let's say
2021, you know a couple of years back
I think they're going to hold for the long term some real historical value and I do think we'll start to see a
You know a supply shock on a lot of these nfts as the years progress
But I mean my question wasn't it was more so based on what they even said as well is
There's projects that are going to mint in the future and you know, we've seen maybe
Right now the projects that we're seeing thrive are the likes of your your pudgy's is a great example
You know azuki have just started doing well
They've just announced their anime token a couple of weeks back and you know
These are these projects that are referred to when I say these projects will hold historical value in the space long term
But do we think any project?
The maintenance within the next 12 months, you know
We've got play and back at the moment, which is an upcoming mint which you know
They're not just an nft project that an incubator to an extent and that's their vision
Do you think projects like this have got potential to flip board ape or just or projects that have yet to mint?
And also whilst among that topic and the question just to throw out your demon
Any game and projects that were currently looking at the moment ie shrapnel?
Um, you know l3 seven have got a insane floor above tennis. So
Um, that's just a question for demon. But anyone else who's got an opinion on as well? No, I'm pretty sure you've got your hands up
Yeah, well you can throw it back to demon real quick, um on his
Okay, I was just waiting because you had your hand up I figured I'd like no I appreciate it but
Natural discourse go for it, buddy
But yeah, I do. I do think that there's a there's a decent chance that uh
That some of these projects could flip board apes. Um, you know
Projects that are minted any time
Any time now, um, but yeah projects in the next 12 months
Have uh have a shot and um, you know, it's kind of a combination it's a combination of skill and luck and timing
Um that get these projects other than other than crypto punks crypto punks was based off of history
Um, and so, you know that that they they soared on historical value
But other than that, you know board apes went up
Not only because of skill but also because of luck
Um, you know in all of these projects pudgy penguins, you know, there was a luck element involved that made them blue chips
All of the blue chips had a luck element involved now
They all did have a skill I'm not involved too, but it's it's not like you can a hundred percent skill
Um, because there's there's there's devs that do everything right?
Um, and and still don't uh, don't
Achieve that big of a status
Um, and so it's not it's not completely based off skill. It's partially based off luck
And so you will see those dynamics again how far they go and how they match up to the to the
projects of last bull run
It's just really hard for me to guess
But uh, i'm hoping uh, i'm hoping that uh
That that we do see a new wave of blue chips
Um, and i'm definitely hoping my project is one of them
Yeah, man, I mean appreciate you take that even empress i'm just gonna throw the mic sleep back at yourself or jp now
I was just gonna throw it over to you empress and then craig did it. He knew he knew what i was thinking
The thing is i've been trying to steal that cake off his head for about the last three months
Uh one day I will get that cake craig. You chuck that cake like i'm jacking
I mean i've been looking at getting another chimp on it. They're the ones i'm looking at again the cake head straight through and
Yeah, so if you want one mate, they're not easy to combine mace. They're rare
They're not I know i'm gonna get that
The thing is I don't really want the chip only that fucking cake
It's because there's a mention of cake it just sets me off. You know, i'm a fat bastard
Listen, this is like up you guys are like the dog with squirrel. Um
No, what I was gonna say is uh, I I like craig's point
I think it's the point that matters which is the historical value of yuga. So it really doesn't matter what flips whatever
Um, I don't think there's a lot of relevance yuga is just gonna always have relevance in this space in whatever capacity that it presents us
Um, I hope for everybody bought in there that um, the building that everybody's talking about is happening
I hear that it's happening on a great scale and that that's what's taking so much time
Um, and if that's the case awesome, wonderful, but no matter what I think that historical value is going to be there
And that supply shock is going to be there. Um
And I think that that's what really matters. So these conversations
Um, I don't know if a lot of them are based in coat because people don't hold yuga assets
Like if if it's impatience, whatever, but I I do think that yuga is always going to have relevance in this space
So I think having conversations that that even
Allude to it mattering if they're flipped or not is is kind of silly. They're always just going to have a place period. Um
Whatever that look however that manifests, but we have a new speaker up here
Um, and that's jonathan. Welcome jonathan. What's up?
Awesome good glad you're having a great day. Uh, you need to find that new button my friend. So, uh,
You know come and say hi, uh, we may kick you down because uh, you're not supposed to engagement farm
So, uh, yeah, hey, what's up? What's up? What's up? GM? GM
Hi, how are you? Welcome. I'm doing amazing. Thank you guys for for letting me hop on just started catching the vibe
Uh, so yeah, what's up, everybody?
We're good we're just discussing uh, like if if uh pudgies, uh flip the bird the board apes like what does that mean for the
Um for the ecosystem and uh, we were just talking about this potential for other projects
Uh to flip the board apes and uh, you know what that means and what it would take to do that
What it would mean for the apes and and you know, if that's you know, a good thing bad thing
And then all that kind of stuff so all that fun stuff
So let's see, you know, what are you thinking jonathan?
I think it's a great question and I think honestly it depends very much about
Um, what kind of value and what kind of utility is going to be tied to that?
Uh as with any kind of project, I think obviously board ape, um nftifs there
They've been a massive obviously collection. Everybody knows about them. And I think that gives them probably additional
Um power to actually successfully flip this
And to to actually still make something out of it
Yeah, also I want to switch on but it i'm absolutely bullish, you know
I think it's bullish for the ecosystem as a whole, you know projects are flipping
Board ape, you know, whether it be put cheese or whether it be izuki or whether it be any other
Projects that you know may be totally under our radar at the moment. I think it bullish in many ways
You know one one factor is that we're we're certainly nowhere near mass adoption
And the way I see it is, you know for
Let's say for projects or perspective projects looking to build within the web3 spaces to see
You know and not to look from the outside and thinking, you know, it's bored. They bored. They bored
They which is pretty much dominated the space for for years
I think it'll be refreshing. I think it the space needs that
You know is to see these projects that are building publicly
And we refer to put cheese because the easiest ones to talk about, you know
They probably had the most growth out of any project in the last 12 months
If anyone disagrees i'd love to know what projects are kinds of up to the same kinds of um
Um, what do I like adoption, you know on board and let's say
Where long ago that i'm going into the shops and you can't get your hands on these toys and you know
Where I live. There's not a lot of people who are into this kind of thing
Nft's let alone crypto or
As well, do you know what I mean? So I said to see like public people buying this
You know and to get the product on a public. I think is huge but yeah long term
I mean, I said any anyone like where two brands coming in?
You know seeing projects they can actually build they can compete with you. You know the best of the best
Empress, I mean, what are we saying? What are your thoughts?
You've asked me whether you
The question exactly craig you lost me
Like, you know much adoption, you know this, you know, let's say do you think it's more bullish for?
For projects to be kind of competing, you know looking from the outside in
Let's say if you're building the project is a you know coming in
Do you think it's bullish for for you to see projects that are building and competing and challenging board ape or?
Do you think you know of board ape kind of a look on a golden backwards?
Do you think that's a talent that's so funny that you're that you said that because I was going to touch on that
Because there is that narrative right that that weird
Uh slogan that's out there that if yuga fails the entire experiment fails
Um, and that and I think I guess that's kind of what I was
Like pointing out I don't think yuga can fail
Like I said yuga to your point is always going to have historical value
So I don't think that that's a danger in general if that answers your question, you know what I mean?
Yeah, no, I do think I think boards ape will stay long time same with punks and
There's many projects. I think that there'll be around for the long term, but
Like I said, you know, we're very early in this space the moment. There's a lot that's needed
I certainly think that start, you know driving that mass adoption
But i'm bullish long term on nfts
And you know, we've been here through the set of it being through the difficult couple of years that we've had and
Um, I think anyone who stuck around through this
I think is going to be here for the long term, you know
I can't see anybody saying in the way right now
The only thing and I think I touched on this through the day and alluded to a lot is
You know, we're the advocates of web3, you know when people join the space
We're the kind of people who the people are going to look up to uh, the newbies
who come in, you know, and it's up to us to be role models and set them on the right track and
And personal know you're keen on kind of you know massively keen on education in the space and things like that and security and
I think we need a lot more people who are kind of
You know more outspoken about that side of things
The the you know, the quicker adopt the quicker people adopt the space and the more people that join the space then naturally with anything
We're going to see more scammers come in
You know, there's a lot within communities and
A lot of people in the space are veterans the kinds of know they may have learned the hard way because they've been scammed before
but I'd certainly like to see a lot more education in the space and
For when people do start coming, you know, I think there's definitely a little gap there for somebody. I mean
Anybody who's been in spaces with wallet guard lately?
You know michael from wallet guard, I mean
He's so part, you know, he speaks from the heart with security so sincere, you know
When he just keeps it real a hundred and and I love it, you know, he's dead straight talking and
I can't advocate security enough. So if anybody doesn't you know
Utilize proper security, you know cold wallets burners
And things like that then as I said, the one thing I can probably assure you is at some point
You're gonna get you're gonna get scammed. It doesn't take a lot nowadays. You can click a link in an email
You can get trains, you know, and and these scammers are only getting smarter and smarter
But look I digress, uh, you know zp said it great before and
I'm a scouser. We'll talk all day if you give us the mic
So I think that you brought up a great. I mean, I think you brought up a great point in the space
we're lacking on the human side when it comes to
Proper optics and marketing. I don't think in a lot of times
I don't think founders should be allowed to talk sometimes
I think that they should have that take it away and somebody else should be taking care of that
I think that michael from wallet guard and the whole wallet guard team. Absolutely epic accessible. You can dmm
um, and and recently the newest thing, you know what I tell people to notice thing craig is I say
At least have a different um wallet
On different devices and split up your assets among them
So at least when eventually you get hit because you're not paying attention you hit that drain
You're not losing it all in one go
You'll just lose part of whatever you're building. Um, and I think that that is the most simplistic thing
We can at least tell these reckless rookies coming in that are going to click the links that we all know
They're gonna click and even the og's that are gonna fuck up
So splitting up those assets, but what a lot of people don't know is just clicking new wallet on your metamask
It doesn't mean that it can't be drained as well. So put them on different devices and make brand new
Entire metamask. Don't don't migrate them. You got to actually have separate
entities completely doing that
Um, and I think that that's a really good thing. But craig, I think those are all super great points. Um back to you amir
He's like meanwhile while he's finding the unmute I think uh, so
Yeah, uh, all it's going to say was um
Security is like one of my own like uh things that I love and and one thing so
Uh craig also has his own uh space on thursday's
If i'm if i remember correctly, it's called the plug and I recommend that people tune in there. Um, so
There he had on the last space. He had michael from um, wallet guard
Um, and one of the key takeaways from that space and and i'd recommend you go back and check out the recording so you can
Check on craig's timeline
And and they have the michael from wallet guard there
And the thing that michael was saying which is something, you know, I work in like my day job is it
And I work and I do security things
Within it and and he was saying the same kind of things that are our principle
Like the you know, the security that you have should be
Like it should take care of you
Um, no matter how dumb you're behaving, right? So so
He you know, his whole thing was that we're trying to put on some kind of protection so that when you click those links
that you'll get that protection because when you
However much you try to educate the users
They're going to do um dumb stuff
No matter what and you've got to kind of factor that in when you set up that security
So that you know the way that's a security set up is that
Um when you do like silly things that maybe you shouldn't do if you're well educated
But there are some level of protection there and that's what they're trying to like, you know move towards
And that's kind of best practice like in the in the it industry because
you know when you're like at work in your office and you can
You know talk to people as much as you want about like, you know, don't do this and don't do that
But you as like the people in the central like it
Um, you know part you need to really uh set things up
So that when the p users are taking the easiest path to do something, um, they're protected as much as possible
Um, so there's some responsibility that lies on the user
But there's also some things that we in the industry
Um can do better and like that that's kind of virtuous circle like insecurity
And I really you know believe in that and I think michaels
Explaining it uh really well. So um empress wants to say something
Yeah, I just wanted to add um earlier
We had a crazy person come in and say can you kick all the other women off the stage?
So I can be the only woman up here
Um, just wanted to point out there's a lot of solidarity with web3 women
Um, we have a great new to the space speaker gg up here. I wanted to welcome her
Let people know that that's another powerful woman doing great things in the space. Um, I know we're gonna be wrapping up
But I just want to say hi to gg real quick, uh and say thanks for popping in
Hi, everyone. Awesome space and I love to hear
People talk about security because I think right now there's a lot of og's getting drained because you know, they thought
Security was beyond them and they would never
Do that right and I see a lot of new people also coming back who made me thinking
Scamps are not a thing anymore. And if anything scams are just so much elaborate this days that you know
Whether you're in web two or in web three
Same applies like I I was buying some furniture the other day
From someone on facebook marketplace and there or I was selling actually and they're like, hey, I want to buy this
I'm gonna send you the payment right now
And it's a scam link from like zell. So this is not even web three and people are doing that, right?
So imagine what people in web three can do when there are like bigger funds, right?
There's still there's so much more incentive for scammers to be here that I love to hear that you guys are talking about
safe ways to practice, um sanitation sanitation for wallets and
Never have just one wallet have a minting wallet have a storage wallet have a storage wallet that connects to sites like
Everything just have to be really separated and I know it's not what anyone wants to hear
But if you are participating in this industry, you probably don't want to get wrecked
So great job amir and person sippy on the combo
Scammers will never go away and scams will never go away
They're gg because like, you know
And when you put it the way you put it was just really eloquent. Um, you know, just you know
You have to separate out your assets
When we speak to our friends who are joining the industry
Um, you need to kind of you know, put it in a way that like kind of hits home for them
Like sometimes you're going to end up with a lot of your line net worth in this space like in these things
Um, and if you think that's valuable to you, you know need to take, you know appropriate
Steps to to protect it, uh, you know
I'm like, you know when I have my bank accounts and things I have that two-factor authentication and like if i'm going to like log into
Um, you know a centralized exchange, you know, I have lots of high-level security
But if i'm just joining like a random forum to like, you know, talk about like, you know quad bike racing
I don't give a fuck, you know, just you know use a short password or whatever
You use it, um within proportion to what you're doing
And if you know if if like losing a thousand dollars is like, you know
Really like gonna be life and death for you
Then you need to up your protocols
If you think a thousand dollars if it fucks off and you just think the convenience of like, you know
Just having a hot wallet all the time is fine. Then you do you you know
Drill it home like these things are at risk and these things can happen
Um, and you know, we'll do our part to get education out there
I think we'll have another space of the time where we
Deep dive into security a lot more because we just kind of really touch the surface and I think it's something that'll benefit everyone
Um, so in the meantime, you know check out wallet guard
Um, you know, that's a good company doing good stuff
Uh and check out, you know some hard wallet providers layer hardware wallet providers for cold storage
Um, you know, whatever, you know, your favorite type is I don't want to make any recommendations
You need to do your own research, but i'll just say that there's you know, there's legends very popular. There's treasure
different kind of solution
Um, and those are three, uh, very popular ones
So, uh, you know, we'll probably be wrapping this up, uh pretty soon
Uh, so i'll just throw it over to to amir
Yo, my bad. I missed the last few minutes, but I see uh, gee gee or gg is it
I'm, not sure but it's nice to see you here
All right. Yeah, like zip said we'll be wrapping it up in a few more minutes
So, yeah, um one thing that we usually do in these spaces is um,
uh, you know before we forget just like community spotlight
Um, and what we do is like there's always like someone we'd like to highlight, you know
What we try to do spread good vibes and we help each other we support each other
So it's not like oh, yeah, please, you know, just follow me and all this
That's what it's about. It's like, um, you know if you want to help yourself the easiest way is to help someone else
Uh, it's it's you know a philosophy that I personally subscribe to um, so I don't know if you watched uh
Avatar the last airbender. It's uh, uncle iro's uh advice. So, uh
And if you haven't watched avatar the last airbender, uh, I highly recommend it. Um, so, you know watch that
very wholesome lovely, uh tv show
Uh, so I know it's animated but it's really good
Um, uh, but yeah, um community spotlight, um, there's lots of like cool people in the audience
But I just want to highlight, uh, there's a little pink seal
Uh, and uh, she's a really great person and just uh lots of fun stuff
She's not the most prolific poster on the timeline
But she does speak in a lot of spaces and it's good to hear what she has to say
Um, so she's someone that does um a lot of support for other people
So when I say, you know, she's not shit posting on the timeline
That's not her thing, but she's always there like helping other people out and her whole vibe is, you know
Helping other people. So, uh, you know, maybe check her out and maybe drop her a follow
Community spotlight is uh shantos
Our little uh seal with the kind of hat and the pink background
Um, so, you know with that said, um, you know, please have a look at shantos. I give a personal recommendation
Um that you know, it's worth listening to what she has to say
Uh, you know, we like to support different voices and um, you know, it's fun
Uh to just see something different every now and again
Uh, so back to you amir. Oh wait, hold on real quick
Uh shantos is my ride or die that chick is freaking amazing got to do it
But we need to do um, a cosign with shantos that I know she'd agree with me our good friend zippy here
Unfortunately lost his main account. He's fighting like hell to get it back
But let's give him a follow get his numbers back up get him back on the board because he has a lot
To contribute to the space as an og and we hate to see it when one of us goes down to whatever random twitter antics
Follow zippy follow shantos. Actually, I would look around this panel and follow everyone up here
Um, but definitely those two for the community spotlight and our generous host because jesus christ
We wouldn't be here without him. So yeah back to you amir
Thank you, thank you, uh, yeah, make sure you guys follow literally everyone here
Uh spaces are a nice way to connect with people that genuinely want to grow in the space
So it's like good to see other people that want to learn and connect
I feel like spaces is the easiest way to just connect with people and follow them
So you don't have to like to look through accounts. You just click on each one follow them. It's literally the easiest way to
I see someone requesting to speak see what they gotta say
Let's be nice, we'll let them up see uh, see what they have to say. We're just closing things out
He's ragging this big in a while
Uh, yeah, i'm, sorry cleatus, uh, we're kind of closing things up. Um, so, you know, we have these spaces regular
Oh, it's uh, it's working now. Okay. Hey
Did he speak for a second or
Uh, I think it may be be ragging or something like that
Uh, but anyhow, we need to close these things up, uh, because we kind of stick to like a two-hour kind of space
We're going to be here. Um all the time
So, you know check us out weekly. Uh, so at the same time each Saturday
Sometimes we have some guests and sometimes you just vibe and sometimes have a topic of the day
Um, as we said previously, you know, we're looking for like, you know different vibe to a lot of other places
So, um, you know, we want to have like diverse voices. We want to have diverse opinions
We want to you know to have things on the up and up
Um, you know, so, uh, not financial advice
And we try to, you know do good disclosures and things when we're involved in things and
And be clear when we're not. Um, so yeah
Thanks everyone and uh, you know, take care and enjoy the rest of your Saturday and the rest of your weekend
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Appreciate everyone who showed up today. I hope you guys enjoyed had a lot or just learned anything new
We'll see you guys next week
Some nice music and rugged
Have a lovely weekend everyone i'm not sure that's nice music but we'll do it
Uh, enjoy your weekend guys