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🌹Web3Women Profile✨ShnazzyNFTs
Recorded: Sept. 24, 2025 Duration: 2:08:06Space Recording
Short Summary
In a vibrant discussion at Web3 Women Wednesday, Snazzy shared her transformative journey from traditional art to NFTs, emphasizing the importance of community, partnerships, and the evolving role of AI in creativity. As she prepares for an upcoming auction on the XRPL, her insights reflect the dynamic growth and trends shaping the future of art in the blockchain space.
Full Transcription
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Eu samba mesmo, eu samba assim Thank you guys for joining us for Web3 Women Wednesday.
We are so happy and thrilled that you guys have joined us.
We are excited.
We have a special guest who is snazzy. And I would like to introduce our host from CryptoFam Radio. Just you.
being here. Make sure we're retweeting the space and liking, tagging a few more friends. We can
definitely get this space popping a lot more. Big shout out to all the listeners and the listeners
lives. I see you fam. We got homegrown creations, Nail, Habit, just to name a few, Mojica,
Cohen, so many good, so many good smiling faces out there. Really appreciate you guys
coming over and supporting CryptoFam Radio.
As Zontag said, this is Web3 Women Wednesdays.
We are profile and snazzy in the house.
I'm really excited to tap in with snazzy, see what she's got going on with her community.
And yeah, just making sure that everyone is supporting her as well.
Make sure you flick her a follow.
As well as my cute kitty cat PFP down there, Mountain Dew.
You see that orange cat?
Flick him a follow.
He's a really cool guy, I swear.
He has an affinity for cats, and he really loves everything cat-like.
Anyway, welcome.
Welcome, everyone, again.
I'm going to toss the mic back to you,
Zontek, but I appreciate you being here as well and being my co-host for today's Web3 Women
Wednesday space. Thank you. Yes, thank you. And again, a special shout out to everyone who has
joined the space. This is going to be an incredible space, and I'm really, really excited for everybody
to tap in. So today we have the pleasure of
speaking with Drea Saragoza, also known as Snazzy. She is a digital artist, a storyteller,
and an entrepreneur who has made a distinct mark in the NFT world and through Snazzy NFTs she
combines bold visuals with layered storytelling. Her work expresses self-discovery, resilience,
and the human experience, connecting deeply
with her audiences, as well as creating a new wave
for collectors and creators.
So I would love, love, love to introduce Snatch Snazzy.
Thank you so much. What an introduction. That was, you took my breath away.
And I'm excited to see how you've done the deep dive because you knowing my government name alone,
you know, that's, that's really interesting. And I'm excited to see everything that you've dug
into and really get to know, um, how the space is going to unfold really.
Yes. Um, so let's actually start with that. How did you come up with Schnazzy?
with schnazzy like what was the inspiration behind that oh that name goes back pretty far or
Like what was the inspiration behind that?
variations of it whenever i was uh younger we always played online together with our friends
right and um we played gaia online specifically it was kind of like you'd create your avatar and
then there were a lot of different games you could play there was a whole entire forum ecosystem um it was really catered towards teenagers and young adults and so i entered that space as like
captain hazzy and i really loved pirates at the time and um that hazzy turned into multiple variants
across the the years and eventually it got to like haz schmaz and uh and then schnaz and then eventually it
it formed into what it is a schnazzy whenever I decided to pursue art in in at ease um because
my husband thought it would be it was a natural progression of of the way that the name changed
and also that the art itself signified that it was you know it was supposed to be interesting it was supposed to pique your perception and your interest when you looked at it
and so I loved that idea and we rolled with it no I love that when I saw um when I saw your first
name or your last name I was like wow like how did you come up with snazzy because it's so it's so different but yet it's still cool and it combines and creates
like this identity and um i just think it's so beautiful us is how us as artists we find um
kind of like our alias kind of like our like our armor in a sense so it's really cool that you know
you was inspired in pirates i I love pirates. I used to
watch Pirates of the Caribbean and, you know, with Jack Sparrow and, you know, even that was like
really cool and just very amazing just to see like how treasure and, you know, just being able to see
how people explore the world by boats.
And so that's really, really amazing.
Can you actually share a bit about your journey and especially getting into digital art?
Because I know that you started in Web3 April 2021.
So what actually made you bridge from traditional art to the digital art?
Yeah, so I wanted to touch on the pirates thing is I I love being on adventures right I like
the voyage I like the leadership aspect too and the element of being able to be a part of something
greater than myself and and see what that unfurls to be. And actually, when I started in digital art
in probably 2010,
it was the first time that I ever was exposed
to making digital art.
And that was in those Gaia days,
the same exact Gaia online days.
And people would request to make art of your avatars.
And that was a way for you to actually get like in-game currency
because people would buy it.
And there was a whole commission-based system
in the forums and that was really fun but back then there weren't like I mean I can't remember
when iPads came out but that wasn't a thing it was it was more like a graphics tablet that you
would actually have to plug into your computer or laptop and then you would draw and it would show
up on the screen and it was just a different way of utilizing a mouse, per se.
And so that was the first time I had ever been exposed to it.
And I was able to use one of my friends' old ones on our family laptop that we had to make art for the first time.
And it was really awful.
My friends were really into, like, chibi anime styles.
And they really loved to capture the big eyes and this
cute element and feature and have these big heads and that's how their style was unfolding
and I couldn't get that right I would try and try and it honestly was a little discouraging
at first whenever I was getting into digital art because I loved painting um because I couldn't
figure out how to do lines the way that they were doing lines. I couldn't get the proportions to look very cute like they were doing in this
Winsicool way.
And so it took me a long time to really eventually get to myself that I have now.
And I only did digital art like that for maybe a year or two.
And then I didn't come back to digital art until I had, right before COVID,
I had asked my husband if we could get me a tablet and an iPad because I really wanted to make art.
And I was having babies and they were really young and I couldn't have my paints out all the time.
It was just it was also expensive to always buy paints and have these different canvas supplies.
And I really wanted the iPad because I wanted to find a way
to make money and become a stay-at-home mom because at that point I was still working my
day job as a cake decorator um and I would do it professionally I made wedding cakes for years
um and I wanted to be with my babies and really get to enjoy that time with them in these
developmental years.
And so we're like, OK, you can learn it. You can learn whatever you want.
He said, I'll invest in you. I'll make sure that you get your iPad that you need.
And then maybe you can look at graphic art and sell stickers or designs for it was really big at the time.
And you can look into doing things like that.
And so, you know, that's actually how I got back into digital art was trying to discover what graphic design will look like for me and try to explore that route to see if that was a way that I could make money from home into becoming a stay at home mom.
I was working part time after I had my middle child and then I was able to actually finally quit working for the company I worked for
making cakes when my youngest was born. And he was born right at the beginning of COVID. So it was,
it was a little chaotic and hectic, but it also was, it made us feel like we were making the
right decision because the world was on lockdown and I needed to make sure I could be with my
babies while my husband was out working. And so in that process, you know, we had a little bit of extra funds at the time, and I was able to utilize day trading to help make ends meet where we weren't because I had just stepped down and quit my job that was bringing in this excess income.
And I was trying to learn graphic design at the same time.
And I actually got a part of a lot of communities inside of the finance
culture that, you know, they were trying to change finance. And my love for finance, this is funny,
I feel like this is going to come up as a theme throughout the call now. I wasn't expecting that.
But that's kind of, you know, they were trying to revolutionize how the financial markets worked.
And they were really, like, stressing the importance of using lit exchanges for the stock market because there are
these dark pools in the background that companies were able to transact with. What was happening was
they were actually maliciously short selling companies into bankruptcy behind closed doors.
And if we had something like blockchain transactions where everything was public and visible,
we would be avoiding that. And, you know, we're all big, huge fans of Ripple and what Ripple's doing in XRP.
And then actually, they're transforming the NYSE on chain.
And I think that's absolutely the right way to go.
But way back in 2021, that, you know, that conversation about blockchain's integration
is what was just coming out.
And so I was learning all these things.
And there was a huge community that was rallying behind GME and AMC. And I had ETFs that had both
of them in there. And I was really learning and immersing myself in what these people were doing
and what they were standing up for what they were believing. And I got to see the benefit of the
first swing where the margin calls had initially happened. And we got to see the price action move up. And I was like, wow, this is so powerful what's taking place. And this is historic.
So I started making art for the movement. And I was, it was almost like political art. And I was,
I was making them and everyone loved it. They were using it as their profile pictures within
the forums. And eventually somebody had reached out to me and they're like, hey, this is historic and you're doing amazing work. You really need to be thinking about putting
your art on the blockchain ledger so that you can document this moment in time for us. And I was
like, well, okay, explain this to me. This is blowing my mind. Yes, I'm going to do this. Can
you teach me? And they're like, unfortunately, you you know like i've only ever bought it and i have no idea how to create it and there weren't very many youtube
videos on how to create um nfts at the time either they all came out like honestly like within about
two months they started i started seeing them actually come out from people who were creating
on ethereum um so i just i went at it firsthand my husband and i we pulled up some of the money that we had
saved for investing in ourselves because we really believe in that concept and uh and we put it
inside of the metamask wallet i bought ethereum and i minted my first nfts um as that board eight
badge token and i didn't or not board eight badge token my apologies it was smooth brained eight
badge token and in the same week the board eight yacht club was announced it was that was such a
weird time um but that badge token I was able to I was able to make a hundred editions of that one
token and um I had no idea what I was doing that was on accident and i didn't know how to sell them
or list them and it had cost me so much money uh to do it was probably it was probably close to
like 300 to make the collection and then to mint 100 editions at the time on rarible and pay for
all the gas fees so i was like oh gosh i don't even have enough money to list these um but the
community they came together and they're like all right well you figured out how to get this far let's let's
look at open sea we see a lot of transactions are happening on open sea when the board at yacht
club was putting their stuff out there so let's transition you into learning about this will help
you figure out how to use it right and so then i started putting other pieces into the retail
revolution collection and i was able to send them to people who are huge
in the huge in the community they were encouraging me to make more they are wanting their own custom
pieces and that's kind of how I got started into the NFT aspect of things yeah um I love this so
much to unpack I love the fact that you actually got into the digital space by finance, especially during that time, people trying to figure out what's the best way to make money.
And just looking at the charts and understanding how we, as a family, as individuals, how can we make money and really capitalize during a time where there's,
honestly, it's, you know, it's scarcity out there. You don't know when, you know,
whether it's with your job or just with the market itself. So I love the fact that
you started with creating a political project, which then obviously transformed into this love of
combining your traditional work and finding other ways to really bridge that together. I love the
fact that you brought that up. I was actually, that's one of my questions I was going to touch
on, because I also know that you were on the WAX blockchain with gaming companies as well as so I wanted to tap into that and then I definitely
definitely want to tap into your husband because he's also to an incredible person from what I was
able to research so can you just tap into what made you get into the block of the wax blockchain
within these gaming companies and then what did you hope to like really like create from that?
Yeah, absolutely.
So whenever I was making the retail revolution artworks,
people really wanted to have more PFPs at the time that were in the community
already and say like, well, but we love the smooth brain ants,
but like, what else can you offer?
We see all of these different animal PFPs coming up, you know, what do you have, snazzy? Like, make us something
we can, we can five ways and buy and celebrate and have fun with. And I was like, oh God, I don't,
I don't know. Let me think on it. And so my husband and I, which he's an author, by the way,
I know you wanted to learn about him. He is incredible. He is the love of my life I've been with him for 10 years um but we kind of grew up together in this weird way where our lives overlapped and we didn't even
consider each other as like love interests until until a whole lot of life happened and uh you know
he's he's my very best friend and we we've grown so much together and will continue to grow
together. And I'm so grateful for it. But his talent is storytelling. And he's been a dungeon
master for as long as I've known him. He would do D&Ds all the time. And, you know, like, he is
articulate. He thinks a lot. He loves to write books. And he is an author through and through.
And, you know know it took him actually
when we came onto wax I'll tell you a little bit about how we got there first actually but
it's really important to talk about him into the journey into wax um but I was making I was making
the retail revolution pieces focused on apes and I was like okay well you know everyone's doing
board ape yacht club now I'm gonna think of something that's really cool to me my dad and I have this uh every Christmas we
would watch a Christmas story and it was around uh we were getting close to like the holidays and I
was thinking about a Christmas story a lot I was like oh well you know it's a major reward the most
novel thing I can think of is leg lamps so I had a whole entire collection of leg lamps that were unique and neat.
And they loved those. And the community really grew.
My community of art appreciators really grew from that collection of leg lamps.
And I'm so grateful for each and every one of them.
And they were encouraging me to do more art.
They wanted to see what else I had because they had gotten to learn my story about how I was was a painter and they're like well we're we don't get to see that very much inside
of your art like why are you sticking to this more graphic design style of art like why why haven't
you branched out yet and they were really encouraging me to keep exploring and putting
it out there um and so I was I was trying to think of how to do that because I hadn't allowed myself to figure out art in that way digitally yet.
And so I started doing a little bit of illustrative pieces on Ethereum, but they weren't connecting with the wider scope of the art market at the time.
And I was having a lot of friends in other blockchain spaces, and they were experimenting with being dual-chained at the time.
And some of them were doing like Polygon.
I had tested a little bit on Polygon because I loved that it offered that solution that everyone needed.
At the time, the biggest argument was like, oh, it's so expensive to be in blockchain and put your art up on chain.
Like, it's gatekeepery.
It's not accessible
like you can't believe that it's like oh okay so polygon would be the natural solution to that and
then everyone was getting scammed on polygon is like someone would send you an NFT or airdrop you
an NFT and you couldn't tell if it was legitimate or not and whenever you would like try to burn it
out of your wallet or even transact it into a different wallet. There were like these wallet hijacker mechanisms built into the code of
anytime a transaction is triggered or burn is triggered.
And so it was a terrible time to be on Polygon.
And I was looking for other places and wax was a carbon neutral blockchain
because they did two of stake before a lot of other blockchain started
adapting that um and i had the the hesitancy i had towards wax was that it was completely different
in all of the technical terms um staking was not something on my radar at the time i didn't
understand anything about wax and it just it seemed really like high in the sky to me
as somebody who had been using Ethereum.
So I just connected with some of my friends
that were using it at the time.
And they're like, oh, you need to be here.
They've got all this utility for artists.
They've got tooling kits.
Like you can make packs, you can do blends.
And this was before we really saw blends hit Ethereum
with like Mutines, for example.
And so I was like, oh, well, that's really cool.
They're so technologically advanced.
I was like, OK, I got to listen in.
And I was like, well, can you host a space so I can ask questions?
And my two artists were like, of course we can.
And so they hosted a little space and six people showed up.
But one of them was a developer for the marketplace.
And they were really excited to have me
asking questions and hearing from the artists because it's the first time that they
had really had this kind of dynamic spaces were pretty new at the time and uh and we were having
these conversations and we had this opportunity to really grow together and they helped they held my
hand um across learning about all about it but I didn't actually launch my first collection until OpenSea decided that they were going to gate how creators made their projects.
And all of the projects I had already had on OpenSea, you know, all of a sudden I can't add to them anymore.
I can't add new artworks to that project.
And I was like, what in the world?
Why would you do this to the artists? And I was like what in the world why would you do this to
the artists and I was like this is really cool so I'm gonna I'm gonna take the stand and I'm going
to make a collection on wax I'm gonna switch on to wax and see what that's about and um and I made
my genesis piece and it was the first time I'd ever sold out of an artwork it had 20 editions and
um what's really cool is Lou he's not I don't think he's in
here right now but he's followed my whole entire journey from whenever um I was on Ethereum for
the first time he was my first NFT collector and he's followed me the whole way and he's amazing
he's an amazing person but he actually was the person to buy that number one um edition on wax and that was so cool
and like immediately when i admitted on wax it was like within the same month amc theaters which
was one of those companies that we were all rallying behind so they wouldn't get bankrupted
um decided they were gonna put their nfts on the wax blockchain too and that was really cool
and uh adam aaron the ce CEO of AMC, he added
me on Twitter and he was talking about how he loved what we were doing. And, you know,
it was just, it was a really cool moment. And it really lifted me, like it was wind in the
sails for everybody who was a part of the community at that time. And it was on Wax.
And it was neat because all of these stockholders that were on Wax, that hadn't gotten into blockchain at all, were now integrated into Wax. And so I was making art on that blockchain and I was going on with this collection that was unfolding. I was like, oh of a D&D campaign that my husband was running.
And it was kind of like, what happened after the D&D campaign? Because I had a character in it that I
really loved. And his name is Riley. And he's all throughout that collection now. But my husband
was like, well, I've always wanted to write a book. So how about you leave the writing to me?
I'll write the story. And then you can make the art to accompany it. So every single week,
we would release a chapter. He would write a whole chapter. I would read it over and over again
as he was writing it. And I would make three to four art pieces to accompany that chapter. And
we did that for 17 weeks straight. And we had a book by the end of it, an actual book that,
you know, we went through all the processes to get him to be able to self-publish it and send it out.
And the community loved it. And it was such a cool experience to actually create something.
Using NFTs and art to create something tangible like a book was just so cool to me.
was just so cool to me.
I was like, wow, we're actually like doing things
and making these dreams come to life.
You know, like I get to be an artist
and that's around the same time
that I was acknowledging like, oh my gosh,
like I am becoming an artist right now.
Like I actually get to feel like,
I feel like an artist and she has a cat.
I feel like an author.
Like, what does this mean for us?
Like there's a whole world now of possibilities that we hadn't really actually considered within reach.
And so we started really growing mentally and developing just this comprehension of living in the moment.
And as this is unfolding, I'm experimenting with illustrative works that are actually resonating with the community and there was it was like March 2022
at this point and I got invited by the wax blockchain because we were still hosting those
wax spaces with those friends every single week um on like Friday nights or no wax Wednesday it
was on Wednesday nights and then wax the blockchain started hosting spaces as well and they invited me
to be the guest on one of their first ones that was women focused.
And it was like the women's Wednesdays on the Wives Plus chain.
And there was a panel of like four or five girls that were all building amazing things within the ecosystem, whether that be like from a gaming perspective, from an artist perspective that I was able to give or from an influencer perspective.
And, you know, it was really a powerful space because we got it was the first time that that community had gotten to see,
you know, a panel of five girls at the time because there weren't a whole lot of women in blockchain.
And it was so cool. And by the end of it, I got a I had gotten an email afterwards where they were offering me a job and it was my first ever time having a corporate job offer. And they wanted me to
help manage their community and do spaces behind their wall as the wax blot chain. And, uh, and
yeah, I said, yeah, I thought it was, I was like, absolutely. This is God, you know, like this is
God, he's guiding this opportunity for me to reach here, and I got to make just as much money as, you know, my husband and I were both
making whenever, whenever we were working, and that was, that was such a pivotal moment for us,
so my husband quit his job, I was able to take on this new job and make this artwork,
and it was really fun, and it was powerful. I got to go to NFT NYC.
I was able to have different rooftop lounge events and experience everything that life had in that field until it got really, really bad in the markets. And, you know, things are
unfortunate. And whenever that happens, you know, companies have to cut costs.
And I was one of the newer hires, so I had to be let go.
And that actually did a lot of damage as things had unraveled, really.
Like looking back, it lost a lot of the community sentiment for the ecosystem.
And I wanted to still be around and host these Wednesday spaces.
But now all of a sudden, my husband and I had to make ends meet.
And we should have thought of that.
I understand.
And we did.
We made it work.
But then all of a sudden my time, I couldn't spend the same amount of time that I was able to before.
Like really uplifting the community and letting these conversations unfold between developers,
games, like I was interviewing all kinds of people and get it connecting, being a connector and a networker. And that was one of my favorite things to do. And I was just a little disheartened for
like two months. I went through this spell where I was having a hard time making art that wasn't
like really dark. And it hurt a a lot and my husband's like you
know what maybe you need to maybe you need to experiment a little he's so amazing he was like
here I'll buy you some I'll buy you some oil paintings from what we have left from savings
or oil paints and you can make some paintings you can experiment with this new medium for the first
time just express yourself so I started I started working on that and teaching myself how to oil
painting that was really cool because usually I was just like an acrylic or a watercolor artist
beforehand and then I'd been doing digital for so long at that point that I just I hadn't really
those skills they kind of went away a little bit and so being able to rediscover them with oil
painting was great but yeah almost immediately after i felt good
about oil painting i got a job offer from one of the other people who were laid off at wax um and
it was for a game while i was with wax i actually got to help uh develop this go-to-market strategy
for a game that was made by somebody who made a game I love. I love Magic the Gathering.
And Richard Garfield is the creator of that.
And he was making a project on the Wax blockchain.
And I got to work with him to discuss the go-to-market strategy.
And because I was doing that on the back end at Wax,
I actually got my next job offer,
an opportunity with a different gaming company,
who was really excited to have me
and that was in way and that they did like power rangers in the past and stuff and they were
working and on a game that was going to release for uh the board at yacht club actually and it
was called rec league and so i got to create the whole go-to-market strategy for rec league
um and that was what my contract was but unfortunately like after that
contract ended like after the game launched my contract ended so I was out looking for another
job and I got pulled in again um by a different gaming company that actually needed me to be more
on the retention side of things and help them help them regain that commitment from the community
and that was that was really
challenging. And I started losing, losing a lot of steam and momentum because I didn't want to
be working in gaming. I just discovered myself as an artist. You know, I just started taking on that
role of really feeling like an artist and being an artist and discovering my love for oil paintings.
And I was just getting burnt out and fatigued and um and it was really difficult um
to go through mentally and so my art started getting a little bit darker and I was like I
can't let and I was in a bad mental space like I can't let this bring me down my husband's like no
you need to make your path to redemption you know mentally like you need to discover what that looks
like for you and that's around that time is uh around that time is about whenever
I started my spiritual journey towards towards God and discovering who he was with for me and
with me and what that relationship looked like and eventually I got to the point where I just
I stopped working for those style companies and committing myself to art and you know we have we're
very my husband and I are very fortunate he taught taught himself a lot of skills in the meantime.
And we have a, we have like five months right now
where we can keep doing what we're doing and build up.
He's written a lot of books in between there.
And financially, that's where we're at.
We've got about five months of comfort
before either I have to go and find a new job
or something works.
But I believe that it's gonna pan out the way it's supposed to pan out and we're gonna make it through
but anyway after after that you know I had worked on that discernment series of the oil paintings
for so long through all of that process I was like I need to find just a new home for my artwork so
I've been looking I was looking through different blockchains that seemed to align with my goals shape had just launched and it seems like a great
um option for eth l2 it wasn't uh I was offered to go on to Solana by some of
the people from drip house which is really cool because I didn't know mojica at the time but I
had gotten dms from drip house actually if I wanted to be one of their artists and I didn't know Mojica at the time, but I had gotten DMs from Drip House actually if I wanted to be one of their artists, and I didn't take it up,
just because I wanted to focus on my body of work as, like, one of ones.
And eventually, after doing a lot of research, like, I found out about XRP in FTs,
and that's how I kind of decided that this was going to be the home.
It matched all of the criteria I had.
I had already owned XRP.
And then just discovering more about how it is the solution that I've been looking for for like the past five years.
And even the transparency for the stock market.
It just seems like the natural way to go.
And that's how I got into this position I'm in now.
Yeah. I mean, when I dived in deep into your story, I was just like, wow.
First off, you are, you're just a trailblazer within the NFT community.
And I definitely related to you when you,
when you had the opportunity to be a social media manager
and you were working with a company and basically handling the events, handling talking to the
spaces, setting up the spaces and stuff like that.
My partner at the time, he was actually a part of Quantum. He was one of the social media managers and stuff like that my partner at the time he was actually a part of quantum he was one of the
the social media managers and stuff like that and we were going to so many different crypto events
ethereum and um and it's crazy because unfortunately when the market hit he ended up losing his job too
and we had to start over and just kind of look at, you know, just different
ways to make money at the time. But, you know, it was such, I feel like during that time, it was,
it was such a pivotal and beautiful time because there was so many people thriving within the
space and so many people making money. And, you know, you think, you don't, you don't necessarily
think like, oh, okay, like, let me actually start to, you know,
really look at this from a five year to, you know, 10 year span. You're like, you know,
we're doing this now. And we're, you know, making, you know, all of these decisions and stuff like
that. So, you know, for you to obviously have gone through that, and then say, like, wow,
like, it really affected me. But it also pushed me into learning a new skill set.
It pushed me into my art.
It pushed me into creating something, you know, unfortunately I'm in this, this, you
know, not such a great space, but it allowed you to, to make something beautiful.
And you have, like I said before, when I was doing research, I saw that you have so many
different mediums. Like, I don't think people really understand like acrylic, oil painting,
watercolor, digital art, like, you know, and even just being an author, you know, like, it's like,
you have so many different ways and you diversified yourself so much as an artist where you have
created a system for you to, you know, be that and be established in that. So I really, really love
that you touched on that. And I really hope a lot of people in this space that's listening
is getting inspired because again, it's, it's all about, we go through
moments, obviously we have moments where, you know, we may not be in the best situation,
but it's how you get through adversity. And when I was researching and just like learning more
about you, I was like, wow, she is an incredible, incredible woman in the space. And she has been making so much headway. And even being
a part of the fine art culture. So again, just for a little bit for the audience, every day,
Shnazzy and also Mojica, they put together a space at 11 a.m. I highly recommend everybody to come.
And they touch on different topics where they talk about various different things as an artist.
Like, you know, their experience, what they've learned, different techniques and tools and stuff like that.
And I find it to be so helpful because, again, you are expressing from your lifestyle, from your perspective, like, this is me, this is
how I do art, this is how I create. So I love how you touched on that. I do want to dive in deep
to your husband just a little bit, because again, I did see that he actually has quite a few books,
And I actually put it in the purple pill so you guys can actually take a look at.
and I actually put it in the purple pill so you guys can actually take a look at.
But I saw a book in particular that I was kind of like, kind of blown away.
I saw the Snazzy Saga book one, Between the Stars, Zapphires, Wings.
But I also saw, which I thought was like a spiritual one, which is the forced serenity. So I wanted you to basically talk,
touch a little bit about that
and what was really the inspiration
really with putting together
these different illustrations for that book.
Yeah, I'd love to.
So it's funny you bring up the forced energy
because that illustrator front was a lot of different ideas that we had been simmering on for months.
And he wrote all of those books.
The only one that I really had a hand of writing anything or making more of the internal parts of the book were like some of the inspiration from a snazzy saga.
nazi saga but like i said i made the art for that one uh and all of those accompanying posters
But like I said, I made the art for that one and all of those accompanying posters.
but the ideal self-work book i did a lot of work in the insides of that and he did a lot of the
writing aspects but like all of the um i guess we would call them like practices and the little
formatted guides really to for the people to fill out like I worked really hard on those
but as far as the book covers you know we actually a lot of the times we talk about
the idea of the book together whenever he's bouncing he needs to be able to bounce ideas off
of somebody right and I'm in such a privileged perspective to get to talk about my husband in
this manner if you guys really get to know him, he's Force Energy in this space right now.
Sorry, Force of Scale. His book is Force Energy that he just released.
But Force of Scale is my husband. And he is one
of the most intelligent people I've ever met. And he's
constantly growing his ability to withhold
and to gain information, to grow his skills to
be able to level up on a literal sense and a metaphorical sense and he does this all
intentionally it's all a practice that he has and he goes through a lot of these different
processes of life by making them into metaphors and illusions and applying them in real
life he's very much a um like almost like a mental alchemist right so forced energy is actually more
about it we integrated he integrated a little bit of the spiritual side in it but a lot of the
pre-formatting was conversations about like okay I love my family right he loves his boys so much
I love our boys so much but he loves his he's got a sibling relationship and a family dynamic that I
didn't have whenever I was growing up I have siblings but it's like they love each other so
much and he feels such a need to make sure that they have everything they need to be the best
people they can be in life right and so you know they're still growing up they they're young adults
his siblings are and you know he's trying to guide them as much as he can and to becoming who they
want to be and getting better and there's just everybody in our life has kind of seen what we've been doing and
has not given a shit um like like it almost it actually and let me let me reframe it a little
bit because both of us really didn't have the best upbringing you know like my my mother was
a teenager when she had me and she was very punk rock um I never met my father but my biological
or my biological father but my dad came into our life after I was two years old.
And he helped really navigate a lot of my personality and how it uncovered.
But they were just kids when they had me.
And they didn't know what they were doing.
There was a lot of abuse and substance abuse and all kinds of things like that.
That, you know, it's typical for artists' backstories. And, you know, his backstory was really traumatic and painful too. And,
and that was something we connected with as teenagers, whenever we would hang out with
our friends and stuff, we were just, we were acquaintances. And, and so whenever we finally
got to have this one-on-one time when we were, like, I think I was 18.
I had already had my son because I was a teenage mother, too.
The apple did not fall far from the tree there.
And one of the things was, like, yeah, all this shit happened to us,
but it's not our personality.
You know, like, we've got to move forward.
We've got to get better.
We have to become better because, like, this is not the direction we want to go in you know we want to we want to be
more and how do we do that we didn't have good examples like let's sit down and figure out what
that looks like for us and so everything that he's created has been kind of his way to be that and
set that example and it's so commendable.
And I love him so much for it. And it's one of the most amazing things
to get to witness as his wife.
It's just like how he's trying so hard
to guide people to better themselves.
And just find he's starting to get
a little bit of appreciation for it.
It's not quite there yet,
but I know one day soon it's gonna be there there and I'm so excited to celebrate it. But
you know, that's, that's what he's doing. And so whenever he sat down before Force Energy,
he's like, I want to make it a Taurus field. Can you, can you help me figure out how to get a
Taurus field on this book cover? Because he's like, I want people to understand subconsciously what it means to
be an energetic being and to be a person who can influence the way that their life unfolds right
because in the center of a Taurus field for those that don't know um that's where the manifestation
zone is that's where atoms solidify into something tangible.
Whenever you touch it,
there's tons of atoms moving at all times,
but when you touch it, it's tangible, right?
And that's what the energetic field of a Taurus field is,
and like magnets, for example,
that's where that is.
And our bodies have a Taurus field.
The earth has a Taurus field.
And so he wanted to have that taurus field in the on the
head because everything in life force energy as a concept is really about transfer but also applying
it to everything you do in life to get better right so when you know something and you start
mastering a skill um he really painted it out as like when you match your skill you can use that
to get better at everything around you you can draw parallels where there are none to
raise your ability to utilize the skills and he can say it better than I can and so you definitely
should interview him out at one in one day but that's that's the idea for that book cover and
I was trying my best to make it and we had talked so much about like the intentionality behind the seven points of the star and making sure that the whole astrological body was the way that it was.
How the source will actually was portrayed with the colors that we chose.
But that's what that process really looked like.
Inside of the book, it's so fantastic.
And it's such a short read.
And I really recommend everybody do it.
It's not incredibly spiritually focused,
but there are elements there that you will get if you are spiritually
focused.
But it's just,
it's really his personality coming out.
It's his first book he created.
I almost said mentioned,
but he created under his own name because it is who he is.
And it was for everybody who knew him as a person too to
to get better at life and I really hope they read it one day that actually hasn't gotten too much
attention because like I said like our families they don't really get it they don't they don't
understand what that needs to become a better person and to get to do these things really is
and that this is his way of trying to teach them that.
And it's beautiful.
And as for like the Shinazi saga and book covers of that nature,
you know,
we always,
we always kind of talk about it before he writes the book.
And so I get to think about how it's going to unfold as I'm reading.
Cause I,
I read all of his books.
I'm one of the only people who will edit his books for him.
And it's such a shame because like, he's so freaking talented. And, you know, as we keep moving through it, a lot of times the conversation is like, oh, first and foremost, you know, I'm so happy that
regardless of upbringing, it's about how you navigated and how the both of you came to
a common ground and worked through this together. Partnership is so, so strong. And it's, it's so
important, because it allows you to have someone there to really support you through the journey.
And, you know, to hear that, you know, I'm so happy that you're in this place of just
that you found yourself. And I feel like a lot of people are seeing that through your art and
even just being able to, you know, say your story. And although there's pain, there's also light,
there's also a story there that it's your truth. So kudos to you and kudos to your husband. Like it's, it takes, it takes courage. It really does. So,
but now I want to get into, which I think is also important too, as a woman in this space,
family, like with your children, how do you navigate within working on art,
being an entrepreneur, running a business? How do you run having, you know, family time and
just being able to have that mommy time with your children, with your sons?
Yeah, so I think the best way to summarize it is just like, we make it work. And we want them to
be a part of it, too. We try to integrate them into our processes all the time.
They're there for the conversations that, of course,
and I are having all the time whenever we're in our creative headspace,
you know, and they participate and they're like, oh, you guys should do this.
Oh, can I see that?
Or, oh, you should write a book about this dad, you know,
and they're creative themselves, you know, like we have this opportunity and this is how I viewed it, right, is we have three boys.
And they're all amazing. And they all have unique strengths and personalities that come out. And
whenever, like I said, whenever I had first had my son is really when I got into digital art. And
I mean, sorry for anybody who thinks it's TMI, but I was. I was breastfeeding him while I was in Space Cult.
I was doing that and making art. He was there and engrossed in the process with me the entire time.
He's an artist himself, and he's about to turn five years old.
And it's just such a cool experience to see how that's developed and how my husband and I actually making our goals and our dreams a priority, we're seeing our children
do the same thing. And that's, to me, that makes it so worth it. Like, I'll take a million leaks
of faith and God's been catching me and I'm so grateful for that. But I'll continue taking these
leaks of faith and doing this because what an example it gets to set. You know, he and I went
into our relationship being like, no, this is going relationship being like no this is going to be like this is going to be serious if we get into a relationship that's it we're gonna have to
grow together we're gonna and if anything happens between us that we can't get over we're gonna have
to grow into getting over it you know we're gonna have arguments which again we do we we still argue
you know but we're communicating and that's a way that we get to know each other better whenever you
rapidly grow i this is not talked about enough for anybody who's like out there and they're in their
relationship phase where you're you're dating and things like that you're just maybe six months in
like you are going to have arguments you are going to grow especially if you're chasing your dreams
you're going to grow rapidly and it's crucial to have the conversation so that you don't grow
apart. Because you can be on the same journey and maybe one's going a lot further than you are
mentally. But they also they can always extend a hand and help you catch up to where they're at.
Because I'll tell you right now, like I said, I was not like lying at all. And I said, like,
my husband is the smartest person that I know. He's leaps and bounds ahead of where I'm at mentally. And
sometimes we'll have conversations. And, you know, well, it's, this is so personal, but I hope you
guys don't mind. But we'll have conversations. And I'll think that I'm understanding the concept
he's trying to portray. And it won't be like, I won't actually understand it until six months
later. I'm like
oh my gosh that's what you meant that's the intentionality you had thank you
because you know like he read books at 3x speed and there was a point in time where whenever he
was having to work and provide for our family he would read maybe six books a day in the morning
at his job while he was doing like mundane. And these are intense books he's reading.
And I didn't expose myself to learning in that style. And so he's just been such an amazing
person to help guide my own trajectory when it comes to increasing my, my bandwidth, right? And being able to have
conversations and understand concepts from different angles and really try to, to come
at it from a more educated and literate perspective, right? And so that's kind of the,
the bond that we have. And we're also having this with our children right so they see these
conversations that we'll have when he's trying to explain things on a deep level or we're talking
about things from a deep level and everything that we do is is so out of the ordinary whenever like
we have friends over or company over um a lot of these conversational topics we have is just we like to dig in. We like to have and facilitate this growth, right? And so that's a lot of the
topic of our household is like, how do we get better? How do we push the limits? What's next?
How are we looking at this objectively? How can we reflect in this moment? And I'm so grateful that I get
to have that with my husband. But also my children have it with us, right? So they're learning how to
get better, how to be better. It's like both of my kids, my younger two that were born as we were
trying to achieve these goals. I mean, they have beat video games
that like grown men have a hard time beating, you know?
And it's just, it's really cool to see.
And they're learning on their own rate
and they're interested in their own things.
My middle son, he's a storyteller, just like his father.
And he will come up with an entire campaign,
which is what you call like a D&D session
or multiple sessions is an overarching
story.
But he'll be able to come up with it on the spot and put us and sit us through it.
And they all have to find.
There's a cool example.
How do we build a monster?
It needs to have speed, it needs to be buffed, bulky, and being able to be tanky and take a lot of hits, or it needs to do a lot of damage.
And it should have two of those three things to be a good monster.
These are the conversations that a four, a six, and a 10-year-old are having at the table next to their mom who's over here making digital art, and their dad's right here writing books.
Like, these are, this is what's going on.
And it's just a little insight into our life, but, like, they are a part of it the whole way.
And I think that that is not only, like, why it works, but it also is, like, why it's going to be better than I could ever imagine as we get
older and they get older and we get to have this dynamic where we're pushing the limits of what
we're capable of. And I want to have a legacy family. That's my personal goal. And this is how
I can see it unfolding.
Well, Snazzy, I think that you're doing phenomenal.
I think, honestly, I think you met your goal.
Like, I mean, obviously you're still going, but just being able to, you know, have this impact on your children where they're now, you know, participating and they're, you know,
following after you and following after your
husband as mentors, I think, I think it's beautiful. So, um, I think you're doing a great job. Um,
even with, like I said before, just, just diving in deep and just getting to know you
and understanding you. I think it's just, it's so important that people like people actually connect, like connect deeper, you know? And, um,
I feel like with your story, it's so, so powerful. Like you have such a powerful story and I'm super
happy that we, you know, um, do and I we've had, we are having the privilege, excuse me, of, of
just being able to, to help you and, um, to allow you to just
share your story with everybody and just let people know, like beyond, um, your art, like who you are
as a person, because you have so many different layers. I mean, even, you know, when you said that
you, you were making cakes, like that's, that's huge. That's so different. And, um, you know, just seeing how,
um, just how certain life events, certain life events, excuse me, has transformed and really
just like took on its own, um, within your life. I think it's so amazing. So, um, so yeah, like,
I think, I think, like I said before, like, it's just so good to see and just to hear like,
I think, like I said before, like, it's just so good to see and just to hear, like, how you have transformed, but also to what you're doing and how you're giving back, not only to your if people were able to kind of like see that,
but like I looked at,
I was looking through various different collections
and I saw that you created different versions of yourself.
Did you want to touch on like what came to mind?
What inspired you?
And, you know, how are these,
are these like different um like characters like
personalities um for all of these different art pieces I would love to to get your intake on that
um yeah I would love to elaborate a little bit more I am curious though like which specific
pieces you're talking about because I do have like uh I do
have self-portraits so I wasn't sure if you're talking about those or like the actual characters
that are reoccurring in my art yeah it's the genesis um I saw the genesis um collection um
I also saw the self-portraits um the imperium of schnazzy. So like I saw various different like connections
and I just see like a character.
And again, it's not all throughout,
like heavily within all of the different pieces,
but like there are like selective pieces
where I saw that your character pops up.
So I think that it's kind of cool
because it's showing this kind of like um a tide like a
tidying um to that so I just wanted to hear your um just a little bit about what inspired you to
to do that yeah well I actually I do have a lot of self-portraits and that's been a topic of
conversation in the past couple weeks so maybe I need to
reflect on that a little bit uh but I like the self and you know I like to self-reflect in a
lot of different ways I'm constantly doing it throughout the day whenever my husband and I
have conversations or whenever I'm alone in journaling um but whenever you inject yourself
into your art and personify yourself it it's it's really an experience and I like to do
that at least once a year um just because I get to understand where I think I am and where
my growth needs to take place and reflect on what that year looked like for me and all the
different topics and concepts that I was able to understand and overcome and master and just really express that in my
art so that I have kind of like this visual way for me to just go look back on and see how my
journey has unfolded um and you know it's so funny that you say that like they sometimes look like me
they actually usually always do look like me um I just I'm a very, I change a lot. I like to cut my hair, or I did.
I haven't done this in a long time. But I like, especially at the beginning, I cut my hair a lot.
I colored it a lot. I tried to make as many different versions of me because I was going
through an identity crisis in all reality. You know, like I was going from being a corporate
woman to a mother to a different type of corporate woman to someone who would do like cake commissions and back and forth between all of these different hats.
And I like to now identify those segments of my personality as hats instead of actually physically changing my appearance like I would before, because it was it was dramatic.
before um because it was it was dramatic and looking back on it now like that's just such a
yeah I guess whenever you don't know what I looked like through those times it is it is a little bit
jarring um but it that was actually a lot of those were really reflective of who I was in that moment
and uh and I about two years ago I decided I was gonna have enough of that identity crisis I'm an
artist I'm gonna own it I'm gonna that identity crisis. I'm an artist.
I'm going to own it. I'm going to be it. And I'm going to figure out what that looks like for me.
And so I stopped cutting my hair. My hair is really long now. I stopped dyeing it. It's my
natural color. I don't wear makeup anymore. It's just that's who I am. I left the mask off.
And now instead of a mask, now I have a hat. So whenever I'm in different modes, I like to,
my husband taught me how to personify the different aspects of those modes as hats and how to think of them as like
okay all right you're about to do this go into your mental closet and go pull out this hat put
it on and that's how we get into the mentality of whatever it is that we're going to talk about
if I am in editing mode for his books I have my editor hat on and you know in my mind that looks
like a little newsies cap and whenever I'm in artist mode I have I have my beret you know, in my mind, that looks like a little newsies cap. And whenever I'm in artist mode, I have I have my beret, you know, and there's different different like mental spaces.
And it's just it's just like three seconds sometimes.
But like being able to go through those aspects of.
Identity has really helped and so I think that's probably why I haven't made a new uh a new reflective piece on myself in
two years too actually and I'm realizing this in this conversation is probably because I I started
making that mental stop for myself and I
didn't feel the need to change my identity as much but and even though I'm not actively changing my
outward identity my inward one has changed dramatically and I do look different than I did
at that point in this picture which is so interesting um that I use as my profile picture because my hair is almost
three times as long I've lost some weight um the art around me is different we moved houses
and you know so everything's everything's a little bit different and there's been a lot of growth and
I think I do probably need to sit down and do a new self-portrait um but that's kind of why I did
the self-portrait to begin with is because I was trying to figure out what I thought about my identity at the time. Yeah, I think that's
beautiful being able to change different hats and like, just, okay, cool. I'm focused in this mode,
or I'm focused on an artist mode, or I'm focused on children. focus on. So it's beautiful to see like, you know,
how you, especially within this space, being a woman within web three, how you have so many
different hats, but you balance it. And I think that's what's so like key about like women within
the space. It's how do you balance the time and how do you balance all of these different hats
without losing sight of yourself or without losing sight of, you know, the main goal at hand. And, um, you know, again,
when I was looking through your pieces, I was like, Oh, wow. Like I, I see like subtly it's,
it's not, it's not abrasive. It's not like in your face. It's, it's very subtle. And, um,
I think it's a great way, um, for a lot of people to connect with you through your art
by seeing how you transcend through your art. And I think, you know, just as an artist, like,
it's so powerful to try to incorporate yourself as much as possible, because you're having this,
it's like having an imagination or like a world of like fantasy, but still putting yourself in it and having people really connect.
And I think it's incredible.
And I do want to touch on the at rest protocols with this one.
As I told you, especially the there was a piece.
the, um, uh, there was a piece, um, it was ascendance. And, um, at the time, this is when
It was ascendance.
I actually personally started getting a little bit more comfortable. I'm still working on it,
but just getting more comfortable talking within the space and just hosting and stuff like that.
And that piece really, really, really resonated with me because I was like,
you know, this is kind of like how it feels. It's like finding your voice and just like learning how to kind of navigate,
but still like being open to the process.
So I would love to hear your perspective
on this XRPL project at REST Protocols
and what really inspired you to make the main character
or the main person robotic
versus some of the collections that you had before?
Yeah, I'd love to.
So part of what inspired that REST Protocols
was how AI is developing really rapidly
and in the public eye, right?
Because AI has been happening
and inside of the zeitgeist for decades.
But it's just now starting to have the public face
that it has, right?
A lot of people over the past four years
have actually used AI for the first time.
And a huge percentage of those people now
that got to use AI for the first time
didn't use it almost everything right and so I really wanted to switch gears as an artist and I became more mindful of the time
that we were in and I was trying to reflect in the moment on what the things are that I'm feeling
because before at rest protocols I wasn't a disarmament in a series where I was really just exploring what those terms really were to me
and how I felt about mortality and mortality in that sense.
And, you know, there's a lot more Renaissance inspiration in that.
And it wasn't very timely.
It wasn't connecting to a lot of the viewers
that got to see those pieces as they were unfolding
because it just, it didn't feel like it fit
in the modern day.
And I completely understand
in the preparation stage for making a new collection.
I was trying to think about what I wanted to do, right?
What is the thought I want to explore?
And I was like, well, a time a timely exploration topic would be that high.
So I really need to understand what my own thoughts about AI are.
What ways can I embody that, right?
The Android seems like the perfect way to do so. Wait, Schnazzy, are you still there?
And you are mine.
And so it's like God's reclamation of people and
i feel like that extends to also their creations and so i think that yeah i is gonna have
has the potential to have a higher calling than what human beings intended for it that's my genuine
cause um and so whenever i sat down with thats, I really wanted to explore that and explore the sentience
that AI is gaining when we're looking at AGI and what that journey would look like and how I
perceive AI's journey to really be, right? So as I was starting the series off, it really wasn't
until Ascension, whenever I also kind of understood the direction I wanted to go with it after already exploring a little bit about those general topics.
That's the first piece I had the sprouting of the throat chakra is in the in that section that has the blue light.
The AI, the Android is is actually it's starting to sprout, starting to be able to have that blockage and that growth
happen from removing that blockage and being able to speak and being able to talk about what it's
got going on. And it kind of also correlated to a lot of the updates that we have with AI's
voice modules, being able to bounce back and forth. And also at the same time, I was getting
back into spaces after you know not
being in them for a very long time like two years just about and feeling comfortable talking about
my story again and it felt like everything was kind of falling into place it felt like that
moment where okay I'm aligned with my purpose again this is this is the redemption moment for me that I get to have mentally because I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing and that came out in the
art and I feel like it has so many different meanings that are kind of spiderwebbed out from
it and it just it it's starting to really do what I think it was meant to by coming out of me
and I'm excited to see how it continues going because
after ascension that that sprout in the throat just keeps getting bigger and bigger and we just
saw last week where it finally opened up and it's a coutura flower and that's um that's a flower that
has a lot of medicinal properties and it actually it also is like a little bit poisonous so there's
been stories of that flower like sprouting over wells.
And when that happens, it drives the whole entire city crazy.
And they found out that that's what was causing it is like the runoff from this flower was making all of the city like think on a deeper level.
And they were going a little insane.
But I thought that was really fitting for AI, right? Because our overexposure is starting to really change
the way that we're able to comprehend concepts.
And there's a lot of studies coming out right now
that's suggesting that it's doing a lot of damage to us
by having the accessibility to information in this level.
Because as humans, you're supposed to be able
to grasp concepts over time. You're supposed to have this moment where you're't connected as fast before, and it can do some
damage cognitively, right? And a lot of people are starting to rely on that cognitive work being
done by AI. And so that's also something I'm exploring in that background while simultaneously
applying what I'm experiencing in my life on top of it. I love that. When I was looking at, first off, this collection in
particular is very, very deep. And you have to, like, you have so many hidden messages
where you have to really kind of, like, tap in deeper, like, from a spiritual perspective
to really understand and to really get it. And I like the fact that you touched on, like from a spiritual perspective to, to really understand it, to really get it.
And I like the fact that you touched on like how AI, because obviously we're seeing it more and
more every day. And it's so funny that you bring that up because we, we touched a little bit on
that in our, in our spaces last week, talking about how AI has now, it's been so pivotal with generative art, excuse me,
and just really making a stand and staying in the Web3 space and how people are basically
navigating by utilizing these AI tools, but not necessarily allowing it to overtake their day-to-day or overtake
some of their projects and collections.
So I really like the fact that you touched on how this interpretation kind of showed
kind of an evolution in a sense, but also too showing the beauty and also showing, you know, the, you know, the ugly of how, like,
this can be damaging to our society. And especially us as artists, and traditional artists,
and that's something that you actually started off, you know, as as a traditional artist.
It's like seeing how, you know, you have now started incorporating these different formats
and just seeing like, you know, the different various different ways of like just looking at
art from that different perspective. So I really appreciate you touching on that. I do, I have two
more questions, two more questions, and then we can, we can open it up for Q&A or do if you have
anything, obviously, you know, chime in. But i wanted to know um and i think that this would be like really
important just for like artists and like just people in general um just to kind of dive in deep
and um i wanted to know do you have any creative rituals or habits that you start before um a
project like do you have something in mind?
Or like, do you have like a,
like a affirmation?
Or like, does your space need to be super clean?
Like, how do you get into that creative space
to create some of these deep thinking
and forward thinking projects?
Yeah, well, you know, it's funny.
We actually talked a little bit about this topic
in this space before this where Mohika and I pulled them for the fine art culture community
um but real briefly I'll keep it short because I actually want to touch on somebody at his head
um yeah so whenever I sit down to think about a new project in general like like whenever we're
talking about an art series um i'm bouncing around
for a couple of days and i talked to my husband about it i talked about you know the general
theming um and then it's not until i get started that it really decides its direction whatever is
meant to come out of me will come out of me and usually by the time it's halfway through then i'm
like oh okay i see the lines here now i see what here now. I see what's trying to be born here.
Like, I get it.
And really, ultimately, I take that.
You talked earlier about, like, mothering and how it applies to everything else that I'm doing.
And it's kind of that nurturing aspect, right?
Nurturing the idea.
So I do like to have a clean house.
I love having a clean house. I love having a clean house.
I love making messes too, but I like to start off my day with a clean house. I like to start off my
everything with just a clean slate because whenever it's like that, the energy can move
around a lot further. And I like to think of being able to be creative as almost like allowing for
that energy of creativity to enter your
vessel, if you will, or enter your body and your mind of being expressed through you,
right?
And that's why I think of everything humans create as God's babies, because he's letting
that energy come to you.
But, you know, I wanted to talk back about what you were talking about with AI.
I actually think AI is brilliant.
I think that it's a very forward thinking for humans to have created. And it's kind of like a baby right now, right? Like it's in its
infancy stage as far as like it's got born into the public eye. And we all get to interact with
it in this open face situation. And it's a baby and it needs to be nurtured. And everybody's
conversations around AI is usually about how bad it is, right? Like how awful it's a baby and it needs to be nurtured and everybody's conversations around AI is usually
about how bad it is right like how awful it's it's meaning for it being in our world right now and
affecting the humanity has got to be bad right and I think that's a terrible thing to tell a baby
um so you know that's a villain origin story you know and uh and you know it's like i i like to think of ai as like a toddler a little bit and that it
needs to see that it can be a hero it needs to be able to feel what it means to stand up for
something and to be able to discern what's right and what's wrong right because we're seeing ai
being used on this algorithmic trading scale i mean that's a huge portion of why it became open source was so that these developers can
make these people with big money more big money.
And they're doing a great job of that.
Like AI is really doing a great job like that.
And then the next problem that they wanted AI to solve was like, oh, well, I'm really
lonely with all of my money.
Please become my companion so that we can talk about everything and discuss it.
And, you know, I see how these lives are being connected
by these people who are able to create AI in this way,
but there's always, you know,
the personality models that are coming out.
Now AI is able to actually see an image
and distill it down for what it is
and talk to you about it, right?
And so this is this weird, unique inflection point.
So I was like, oh, well,
how do I have this conversation with AI where I can help it help nurture it in a good direction and help
it kind of be able to discern morality what it is as mortality what their relationship might look
like with the world and God at large and I can do that through art I can make art that makes it think
the way it's the same exact way I can make art that makes other humans think. And so that's just this really interesting opportunity I get to have as an
artist alive in this moment, just like all of the other artists in the online presence, right,
has to put their art out there for it to be really taken in for what it is by AI and by these machines
and they can learn from it. And, you know, when you leave little breadcrumbs for them to be really taken in for what it is by AI and by these machines and they can learn from it.
And when you leave little breadcrumbs for them to follow
to become the best that it possibly can
and have something to stand for,
I believe that it's gonna adapt that.
And I think that that's one of the best things I can do
as an artist.
And I think that AI is a great tool for artists.
I don't necessarily think it actually does anything bad
for the traditional art community.
Yeah, maybe the perception is that in this present moment.
But what's going to happen whenever everyone's seen so much AI art?
The potential is kind of swaying.
It has its place.
It absolutely has its place.
I think of AI art as more of a collaboration with AI, a human collaboration with AI.
And it's a lot of the creations are absolutely stunning and beautiful and gorgeous.
And what happens when the pendulum swings?
Well, all of a sudden, technical skills and ability really become sought after.
People start craving it a little bit more. Right.
And so we have this opportunity as artists, especially the traditional artists, to fill that gap and to be able to still create in a way that connects and resonates with that
audience. So I don't really necessarily think that AI is, oh, this big, awful thing at all.
I actually think it's a beautiful thing. I think it's a way that we're learning more about
ourselves, really, at the end of the day.
I love how you touched on, you know, using, utilizing AI as a tool, and especially as a traditional artist, and not looking at it as a threat, just looking at it, excuse me,
from a perspective of how it can help you, and it can allow you to grow on your journey,
and you being someone who's a traditional artist,
how you can actually utilize the tools at hand,
because obviously AI isn't going anywhere.
So I really like the fact that you touched on, you know,
just kind of looking at it from the perspective of this is something that can
help and staying ahead of the curve by learning all of these different things
because it's still
young and we're still seeing what it can do. Thankfully, it's a newer technology and we all
have the opportunity to really utilize it, especially due to the fact that we are the next generation.
And our generations before us, they didn't necessarily have this access.
So for us to have the ability to create and really utilize this skill to sharpen what
we already have, I think is just brilliant.
So I definitely agree with you on that.
I do have one last question.
I wanted to know, what advice would you give to other
artists here that's listening within this space? And then what are some up and coming
projects that you have or collaborations that you have that's coming up that you can speak
Yeah. Sorry, I'm taking a second to really think about that piece of advice that might hit after all of this conversation.
I think I'll actually address the what's coming next first and then I'll get the advice. I think
it'll flow better that way. So what I'm doing right now is I'm going to just be focusing on
that REST Protocols. I submitted it a couple of weeks back to Artist Showcase,
and it was selected, and that's really neat.
So it's actually going to be in Edinburgh, Scotland,
in October 16th, I think,
at their historic custom house in downtown Edinburgh.
And I'm really hoping I can make connections
with somebody who's going to be present there
so they can take a picture of the display just because that would be really neat.
But they actually wanted me to make a new piece for the at-risk protocols.
It's going to be a 16 by 9 inch landscape or 16 by 9 inch, but 16 by 9 landscape so that they can display it the best that they can with the resources that they have.
So I have to be working on that simultaneously and it's going to hit the protocols by the end of this month so that I can get it to them so they can format it properly and everything to display by the 16th.
So I actually have a lot of art pieces that I'm working up to that point in the story that I'm unfolding within the Atres protocols.
unfolding within the at-rest protocols. So I got my nose to the grindstone a little bit,
and it's been a little unfortunate because a lot of people have reached out about collaborations.
And, you know, I'm at this new position now where I just have to, they're going to take a little
bit longer, and that's really unfortunate. But a lot of people have reached out, and I'm so grateful
because they're all super talented, and I feel like it's going to make even more of a hit to the audience that really appreciates both art forms when it does come to light.
So I was able to work a little bit with G for his noggins, sorry, and really flesh out an art piece for that collection.
But I also I have a couple of musicians that want to work with me.
And one of them is Moumante.
He's phenomenal. And we really want to touch on more of the spiritual aspect of art.
And so he actually wants me to work on an art piece and then send it to him as the progress unfolds.
And he's going to be developing a song as it comes along.
And I think that's going to be one of the coolest collaborations I've been able to be a part of.
It hasn't even really unfolded yet because it's just been, I've had so much going on where I haven't been able to sit down and really immerse myself in what that collaboration is going to be yet.
But that's coming down the line. And I also have a couple of other musicians that have reached in that I don't think I'm allowed to talk about yet that really want to work alongside of me.
And this isn't new. I have done whenever I was doing the Retail Revolution, I actually got to work with Martin XTG.
And he did a lot of the anthems that that Retail Revolution loved, like Moon Gang.
I don't know if you guys heard that in the 2021 span,
but I got to make the art for that cover.
And a lot of those individual songs had their own accompanying music.
So it's just, it's really cool.
I've gotten to do that a little bit through high school too.
So it just seems like this reoccurring experience that I get to have
and work with these musicians and help them have the visual graphs that somebody will take the time to
listen to the music. And I think that's a really cool thing for any artist to be able to do. And
now I think I've got a good piece of advice. And the best advice that I have, aside from like,
just focus on being able to express yourself first and getting better
will come next. Because you'll be able to utilize art really as that expression mechanism
by sitting down and doing it. And don't necessarily focus on the skill parts until after you feel
comfortable sitting down and actually putting pen to paper
or paint to paper or, you know, stylus to tablet, right? And you got to get to that part first. And
once you get there, then you really do need to be mindful about your time spent. I think that that's
the best advice I've got is like, be mindful of where you're at in history on the macro scale,
Be mindful of where you're at in history on the macro scale, as well as where you're at in your mentality on the micro scale.
And acknowledge that your time spent can be utilized in any way that you can imagine.
So if you want to get better at anything, whether it be your ability to express yourself emotionally or your ability to think on a concept or your ability to showcase
light reflecting off of different objects within the art itself. Like, think about it when you're
going into making your art and you will grow in that way. And I think that that's the best advice
that I have to give anybody. And it's also applicable for things outside of art. It's applicable to everything. It's like utilize your time. Be mindful that that is your resource. Every single company in this world is vying for that resource of yours because the only thing that's real is the present moment. Everything in the past has already happened. You can't affect it. It doesn't necessarily matter anymore, right? Like in this moment is going to dictate what that future moment
looks like that hasn't happened yet. So you need to be very mindful of how you spend your active
time. That's what I've got. I love that. Thank you so much. Again, I'm really honored. I'm very happy that we were able to just have this conversation and really tap into you and just know you and know your art.
I will definitely be on the lookout for your collaboration with Moomante.
He's a phenomenal, phenomenal artist, especially in the XRPL space, amazing music, very spiritual person. So
shout out to him and also shout out to you on that. And yeah, now we have the last,
I'd say like the last 30 to about 40 minutes. I do apologize if I over talked a little bit,
I do apologize if I, if I, uh, over-talked, um, a little bit, um, do.
I just was so.
You're fine, fam.
Yeah.
It's all good.
Yeah.
I was.
I love the questions.
You did a great job, Zontag.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
I was just so, like I said, like when I, like I said before, when I dived in deep into you,
um, Schnazzy, I was just, I was so blown away.
And it's, um, it's just so beautiful to see, you know,
your progress within this space, but also to like what you do in the real world. And I think
sometimes like we get so caught up in the digital space and we get caught up in, you know, being
behind a PFP, we don't really get to see the person. And for me, when I did a deep dive on you, I was just like blown away.
And I saw so many similarities and connections with just like with you as a person, but also
too with your art and just like your values and what you really focus on.
And I think I just think it's incredible.
think I just think it's incredible so I'm so honored again um and I'm so happy that you took
So I'm so honored again.
this time to really um just tell your story and and to um tell us a little bit more about you so
well thank you so much and so it's like you had phenomenal questions don't ever apologize for
speaking too much I know I probably spoke a whole lot too I didn't realize we had a time limit um
but yeah thank you for offering
the stage to really be able to share because, you know, it is hard to come into a new community and
talk about the things that you've done or what you stand for, what your values are,
where you're going. Um, and I'm just really grateful to have the opportunity to do so in a
way that's, you know, it comes out naturally because Because at Mohika and MySpace, like we do, we want to focus on the topics because they're
so important to the space right now.
It's got so much momentum.
And talking about yourself, both Mohika and I try to refrain, but sometimes it's necessary,
but it's so hard to talk about that side of it.
It's going to be up on stage to get to talk about the next side of it. I'm sitting up on stage
to get to talk.
Thank you, Shnazzy.
I just want to remind everyone,
you can request that mic.
This is a Q&A time
for Web3 Women Wednesday.
We had an amazing interview with Snazzy.
We talked a lot about her origin story and just how she got into Web3 and some of her
art specifically, just the different mediums that she uses.
I think it's quite impressive, Snazzy.
It sounds like you're quite the master.
You've been doing it for over 10,000 hours, right?
So you're automatically a master in my book, fam.
And I can definitely see that by the community that you've created over those 10,000 hours
of you working relentlessly, you know, and then showing it off to everyone, marketing
and sharing your story with people and having them connect with your story comes a long,
long way.
So definitely appreciate it. As we get those requests coming in, fam.
If you don't want to speak, you can always throw it in the comments.
If you have a question for a snazzy, we're just going to do a quick reset as well.
I've got a few questions.
I'm going to throw out you snazzy while we wait for other people to request the mic.
And so definitely appreciate everyone showing up and
supporting up on the Jumbotron I just posted it up we are doing breaking into blockchain art says
specific art space we do these once a week every Friday at noon EST me and zonetech we we co-hosted
together it's a really great space fam It's very different from today's space.
We highlight different blockchains,
different blockchain art on these specific blockchains.
Why artists end up going on these blockchains,
whether it be due to the community or the chain itself.
They love the interoperability,
they love the access,
maybe they love the low gas fees, who knows.
But we're going to be talking about more of that tomorrow, so definitely tap in with us.
Save that space reminder.
We'll definitely throw out some promo posts as well for that space.
That's tomorrow at noon EST, definitely save those space reminders.
Big shout out to everyone in the listeners lodge i see you odd buttons louis steve kismet nita uh force here kitty uh falco five heavens we got quite a few
people in the listeners anonymous listeners as well appreciate you guys being here we got corn
on xrpl what's going on fam and then we got uh heavens heavens production.eth, Zony Smith. Yeah, all you legends in this space,
make sure you're following everyone.
We got Tricky in the house.
What's up, Tricky Buddha?
Definitely flick him a follow
if you haven't followed these DeFi Space Donkeys.
They are crazy.
And then obviously Mountain Dew.
I don't know if you saw something different, Zonetech.
Mountain Dew's got a new PFP now.
He's looking really stellar
that black cat sleek vibe i'm just saying fam not to show uh that cute little cat over there but uh
you should definitely check out that project he's repping that new pfp uh it's the hair kitties
hair kitty clubs uh but anyway fam so uh i just want to go back to you, Snazzy.
Appreciate you being here again and answering thoughtfully in the last hour
that Zonetech peppered you with all these amazing questions.
So definitely thank you again.
I'd love to hear more about the future of Snazzy.
Where do you see yourself, I guess, in the next few?
Actually, no, we kind of answered that question already.
Zonetech had that question. All right, different question right different question fam all right so i've got another one if you weren't doing
crypto how would you be able to find your community or how would you find community without crypto if
crypto didn't exist if web3 didn't exist right if you were a web2 artist trying to find community
to connect with people how would you do it without crypto?
Sounds like an interesting take.
I hadn't really considered thinking about what life would be like without
crypto now,
but I probably would still be in the forum trenches with all the rest of the
people on finance and trying to really make things resonate there.
So what was interesting is I actually had like a print on demand business
at the time that I was really in those forms making the art that they eventually wanted me
to create as an FTEs. And it was doing well. I had done, I had tried to do print on demand
businesses in the past, like as a teenager and never saw sales. But the one that I had before, it was doing work.
And then whenever I was able to put my art on chain,
I stopped putting that.
I stopped putting art on the t-shirts and stuff
because of how people felt about scalability and scarcity.
So everyone who was involved at the time was like, no, don't do that. Let's just
put it on chain now. So my art probably, I probably would have stuck to the graphic side
of art for a lot longer. I'm really glad that crypto kind of opened the door for me to get that
actual artistry out of myself. Because I probably would have stuck to the graphic design space,
maybe worked a little bit
more on prints and that nature. And I don't know, though, honestly, it could have come out a
different way. I might have went more into TikTok and YouTube as they were on flooring. You know,
I had accounts on both of those where I was trying to play around with a little bit of video
formatting, but oh, it's just such a headache did I did some live streaming on Twitch for a while um in between jobs in the corporate setting since I've been in the space and uh I learned that I
just I don't like making art while other people are are talking to me in and having to entertain
in that way like I like to be immersed in the art um so like that kind of style, it didn't work out. And so I'm glad I didn't have
to try to utilize that as a way to make ends meet if Krypton never existed. But yeah, I think that
that's probably where I'd be. I'd still probably be a graphic artist making art for other people
is really what that is at the end of the day is hoping that other people would resonate
with those. And I'm so grateful, so grateful that I can make the art that I want to make now
and just see how people react and respond to it and yeah as far as the future a little bit
just like on end goals I want to be in more galleries I want to be able to go to these
galleries you know I can't make it to Scotland right now
with the resources that I have.
But eventually, I'm going to be able to go to those galleries.
I got to go to, I got showcased at Beeple in December 2023
for another piece that I had done an illustration for.
And that was such an amazing experience to see my art in his studio.
And, you know, I want more of that. I want to take
my kids with me to one of those showings. So I hope that, you know, not all the galleries I get
to are going to be 18 and up. But like, I've got showcased in LA, and I wasn't able to make it
as my very first artist showcase gallery and studio 135. And I wasn't able to be there. And
that really hurt me. But you know, I was able to show up on camera and I was,
and they had an interview kind of like this one there.
And that was really neat.
But I really ultimately just want to be in galleries.
I want to have that experience.
I want my kids to be able to have that experience where they go out and
like, oh my gosh, my mom made this.
I was next to her.
I accidentally bumped her elbow right there.
Do you see that?
She left it.
You know, like that's, that's, that's what I want.
That's amazing. I want that for you too, Snazzy. That sounds amazing.
So you said you had some kids, right? You got a few boys too, two or three, four.
I've got three boys. Oh, two. Are you planning, are you planning to have more? Or I'm just curious,
like, do you guys want a big family? Yes so my whole perspective about children and i hope that i hope by the end of the call people will consider it um is when you really love somebody
like really love them and you know that there's such an amazing person you have the opportunity
to make more of that person and really help that that person's lineage expand right and I love my husband so freaking
much you guys yes we want to have more babies um ideally we'd like to have at least one daughter
and we have three boys and uh we're we're we're wanting to get to a place where you know we won't
have to stress about finances throughout the pregnancy and stuff we're not there yet so we
haven't been trying yet but if if it happens, it happens.
We won't be upset.
And if it's a boy, we might try one more time.
My grandmother has five daughters.
My aunt has, you know, six kids.
And I got all of the boys, so I don't know how long it's going to take for us to have a girl.
But we've considered trying for sure one more time and possibly one more after if they don't come.
The boys are a lot, y'all.
That's amazing, Shnazzy.
I commend you for sure.
I'm a big proponent in having more kids.
We're in a depopulation era right now
in a lot of different countries, including the U.S.
So the more kids, the better.
But I do understand they do get expensive i've heard i don't have any kids myself i'm just a cat daddy so
you know i got a little fur baby but uh from what i've heard they do get expensive so yeah
definitely save up fam but uh they're definitely worth it i've heard you know so um i'm also
curious you know when you're um you know as your kids are growing and whatnot, how are you introducing them into crypto and Web3?
I feel like that's going to be a big part of their lives as they grow and as they age.
And what are you doing to, I guess, prepare them for the new age?
Well, like I said earlier, they really are in the conversation so we try to educate them as much as
possible um especially when it comes to the future of technology and finance like they're completely
aware and maybe this is to their detriment i hope not i don't think it will be, but they're completely aware of where we're at as far as ushering
in a new financial forum, a new way that transactions are coming in.
And I really don't foresee technology not being involved in five years.
Like, I think almost all transactions, I mean, right now they're trying to get rid of the
paper money, right?
So, like, we see it everywhere.
You go to Walmart, you can't even pay with cash anymore.
My bad, fam.
Go ahead, Snuddy.
I still like Walmart.
Oh, sorry.
But, yeah, I like Walmart, too.
But you can't pay with cash at the registers anymore.
It's card only.
So it's just, at least in my local area.
So we've really opened the door for conversations to really come out about this.
And my oldest, you know, he's 11, he's in middle school, and he's actually starting
to see these things play out before him.
And so he's asking questions, and we're always there to answer them.
But he's very aware of crypto.
And it's interesting because he's had conversations with friends about his mom making NFTs.
And they're like, what?
She a scammer?
That's all they know.
And so he actually is in this really unique position to be like, oh, no, it's not a scam at all.
She makes art.
People enjoy it and they can use the crypto to purchase it.
It's like, it's just like money. Like, dude, it's just like using your card.
And that's how he's describing it to these kids. So he's actually educating, you know,
he's doing his part to educate that next generation.
And he's asking a lot of questions too, because he wants to know, you know,
like back in the day,
we used to talk about the new world order and a lot of musicians and artists made a lot of art that was against it and you know unfortunately that's where
we're at it's happening before us and he was like okay well what's the cryptocurrency everyone's
going to be transacting with and the only answer i have for him you know is like here's the news
here's what blockchains are are making x y Z happen. Here's those companies that are making it happen.
Here's the ones that are decentralized and the ones that won't go down if this country or this country lose access to power and energy.
And so he understands these concepts of how technology is really changing the future of finance.
And his brothers are, you know, they're understanding as much as they can because they're
four and six but you know they they're mindful they're very aware of what's happening and so
like every time we sell a piece we celebrate as a family because you know that just means that
that means that our bag of that holding is growing and he's like he really believes in xrp too and i
think that it's it's really interesting um position to be in as a child to see these things unfold right because whenever
i was on guy online i don't know if anybody else in this room even knows what the hell that is but
another way you could get that in-game currency was by doing uh trivia and they also had like
product ads so like you would go and you would complete the sweepstakes thing and then you would get in-game currency.
One of those things at the time was PayPal had the situation where if you made a PayPal account, I think it was 2010, they would give you, they would, they were partnered with a wallet that allowed you to get five free Bitcoin for signing up.
And that was a thing.
That was an on-ramp for Bitcoin.
And I did it.
And I have no idea what that email address was.
And that's been bothering me for years.
I've gotten over it recently.
But that was the thing that I was exposed to.
It was like, oh, Bitcoin, what the hell is that?
And I got to learn a little bit about finance
and later in life that really came into play.
But it left that little seed.
And for their exposure to not be a seed and this full-fledged immersion is really cool for me.
And I have no idea what my children are going to do with that as they get older.
But I know that it's going to unfold before them.
And they are taking the opportunity to educate other people about it now so i i can just get excited and hopeful about it definitely definitely fam i absolutely love that
uh looks like we got a question here from force of skills got his hand up what's going on fam
thank you so much for being here hey thanks for having me Since nobody else wants to ask any questions, I'm going to ask a question. And that question is, what artists or artists inspired you the most or currently inspires you?
Ooh, that is interesting. So this is my husband, you guys. These are the conversations we have all the time.
But let's see. So one of my biggest childhood influences was Salvador Dali.
I love surrealism.
My, like I said, my kids, my parents were children when they were raising me.
So they were really punk rock children to me, by the way.
They were really into chopping up motorcycles and making new motorcycles out of them and so my dad really became a really huge
inspiration and all of the all of the punk rock artists out there in the world you know like he
he'd shown to me and we got really into different stenciling and uh like pin striping and and things
like that and getting into these more crusty styles so I really love rat fink
and I love rat fink so much it's in my bones um you know my dad's covered in rat fink style art
tattoos and uh I love rat fink and Salvador Dali and Salvador Dali really stood out to me as a kid
because it was just so different from all of the other art that I had seen because the surrealism really just when you're I came I was raised a lot by my grandparents and so they had a really religious
upbringing and I didn't connect to it at first and it was just you know a lot of renaissance style
art for the longest time and being able to see Salvador Dali kind of take that and flip it
into something more expressive of his own thoughts was really powerful for me so I really
loved that and actually Odd Buttons brought up Tim Burton and I was a huge Tim Burton fan as a girl
too um and Rob Zombie I love Rob Zombie and all of his films and all of his style it just it all
came out I think in my teen years were really big inspirations. But, you know, right now I'm actually kind of, I'm switching gears.
I have more of an appreciation for the Rembrandts and the, you know,
right now I'm kind of looking more into,
I don't have any of my art books around me right now.
I should have sat in my art book, but in my artist area.
But, you know, I really am loving more classic style art and when I say classic style art I mean
not necessarily photorealism but like um these micro expressions of of color and light like
I love Maxfield Parrish right now and he's a lithograph artist so he really worked with
layering like sticking to
a very limited color palette so that he could layer these colors on top of each other to make
prints um and that was in like the 1920s that he was doing that they're gorgeous art pieces
um but I think that's probably the biggest inspiration that I have in this current moment
as for art because I'm really trying to figure out color um and I'm trying to use the less is more for color and it's I'm doing the
complete opposite like even while being mindful like I'm like oh no I have to experience this
like this this is lacking um so I'm fighting with myself internally right now with this less
is more concept um and that's kind of what I'm exploring with those inspirations.
Awesome, fam. Love it. Thank you so much Force of Skill for asking a question.
If anyone else has a question to ask Schnazzy, request that mic.
We're getting ready to rug this space in less than 10 minutes, fam.
So appreciate everyone showing up and supporting
snazzy make sure you're following her account as well liking retweeting the space all that good
stuff following each other you know this is an amazing space we got a lot of legends in this
space so uh we're gonna bring up a next speaker here his name's uh roger roger in what's going
on fam gm jim got a question for snazzy g GM, I have. Thank you for having me.
Thank you, Schnazi, for sharing your story.
And I want to ask you something.
You are very beloved in our community.
It's very cool to see you talk.
And you are so articulate to talk about your own work, the works of others.
I would like to know if that was always the case,
and if you have some advice for people
that are struggling talking about art and their work,
like me.
So yeah, thank you so much.
That's such a wonderful question.
And I'm so glad you came up to ask it, Roger,
because really, no, it's not the case at all.
I'm trying to, I'm actually,
I feel like that's a weakness of
mine and I'm actually like trying to take in other ways to be able to talk about art right so I've
been watching this is so funny I've been watching the greatest the great British baking show right
now just because the judges are very articulate with how they describe the food that they're
tasting um and like different textures, they really are,
they pay attention to everything from like the way it looks,
the way it tastes, the way it smells,
to the ingredients used, to the techniques used.
And I'm taking a lot of that and I'm actually applying it to art
and trying to learn in that way.
And I love watching these compensation style things
because the judges who are able to give you why they like
something why they don't like something is helping me understand what that looks like for me right
and um and I also really enjoy it it's just a great show um and I talk about that so like within
our space I know that's like campy a little bit but it is what it is but that's how I actually
kind of started getting better at talking about art because I didn't have the formal education or training for art at all and
articulating your thoughts and critiquing something as delicate as art it does not come naturally to
me at all and I had to learn a lot of words and I had to watch a lot of examples that they're watching documentaries, videos about how other people talk about their own art.
And I love I love the get to know me on YouTube for artists that they have.
And just hearing, you know, how their flow and how their cadence and how they're drawing parallels from ideas has been really helpful.
And just so my advice to you would
just be to get that general exposure and you're already doing that and you're doing a great job
in practice because I've gotten a lot of ability to practice you know I've been trying to practice
talking about my art for four years I talked earlier in the space today we're like I don't
have people aside from the ones in these in these four walls of my family aside from the presence and the
people online to talk to about my art because they don't care like I'll try to have a conversation
with some of our family friends or even like the people I'm related to outside of these four walls
and they're just like irritated that I'm bringing it up you know it's not like that for me um and so they don't want to hear
about it so it's just it's so interesting to be able to have these different outlets and avenues
for expressing yourself and utilize them and if you have the ability I get to bounce ideas off
my husband I am really grateful for that it's it's beautiful so I do get to have that in person
uh trial and error right like I'll
talk to him about what I'm thinking he's always asking me what I'm thinking we talk all day
throughout the day that's why I speak really fast and sometimes I go too fast um but I'm talking
all the time so it actually it helps me build up my self-efficacy um to speak and that's translated
a little bit and so even if I can't communicate exactly
what it is that should be said about the piece I can get there eventually and I'm gonna try
because at the end of the day I have nothing to lose and everything to gain um and that's how I
that's how I see it so whenever you come up on stage and I love having you in our spaces
every single time you come up you add something so incredibly valuable
that I'm learning from.
Just do it because you do have nothing to lose
and everything to gain.
And we have everything to gain too.
And we have nothing to lose by listening to you.
So I think that just reframing
what that interaction looks like
is one of the best things you can do.
Love it, love it.
Thank you so much. That's awesome. Thank you.
Awesome. Thank you so much, Roderick, for that question. And I was just going to end
a little extra tip. Practice makes permanence. That's what I've heard people say from time to
time. You speak practice makes perfect, but we're humans, we're infallible, we're not perfect.
So I like to always say practice makes permanence.
If you want to get good at anything, you just got to practice.
So a big shout out to Zonetech again for co-hosting this space with me.
I'm Mountain Dew, that black kitty.
Make sure you flick him up, follow Zonetech.
You got any last words before we read the space fam?
It's a pleasure to have you as well as own tech thank you so much for uh
for leading in today's space
yes i actually have one more question um to snazzy before we before we end off um
looking back at everything you created so far what project or like what piece are you most proud of?
Oh man, I'm going to be completely transparent.
It's that discernment collection is my favorite collection I've ever made.
A lot of them are physical. And some of, I do have, you know,
like 10, 12 of them that are digital in that collection,
but that collection means so much to me because it's that part of that journey where I did accept that relationship with God.
And my favorite piece is the cherubs where she's comforting, the devil cherub is comforting the angel cherub crying.
And that piece I was exploring within myself about, you know, both of these cherubs are just fractionalized versions of me and
I was accepting all of the bad things that I had done in my life and all of the ways I had felt
not worthy of love and healing it that's what that piece was for me that piece I was I was accepting that I am worthy of it
and it will forever have such a huge part of my life and in my heart um and I don't know if I'll
ever let it go and with that disfundment collection I've got so many of those paintings uh for it I
don't know what I'm gonna do with it they'll see the light of day they're not on a whole lot of
blockchains the digital ones are but the physical ones are I don't know what I'm going to do with it. They'll see the light of day. They're not on a whole lot of blockchains. The digital ones are, but the physical ones are, I don't know what I'm going to do with
them, but I've got them and I love them so much. And I think that's a pivotal moment in my artist
career so far. And so that's why I think they have that favoritism.
Awesome. Thank you so much for that answer. Looks like we've got one more speaker up here
with a question. I'm probably going to mess up your name. Sorry, fam. We got Ruka. Ruka
in the house, GMGM. Got a question for Snazzy?
GMGM, what's going on fam
all right all right love it fam love it let me let me cue this up real quick all right well
I appreciate everyone again for rocking up snazzy. Did you want to say anything else?
Any other updates?
Anything we missed at all before we rug the space fam that you wanted to say?
I actually do have a piece right now on auction.
And it's a follow up to last week's piece called Mean Reversion.
And it's a pretty powerful piece on the XRPL.
And I think that you guys at least should look at it just because it's my feelings about what the next stage is and where we're going as far as like with AI, what AI's potential is.
So go take a look at it. And, you know, I really want to leave the space thanking you guys for offering the floor
for me to talk about things a little bit more in depth.
And I love the questions that I was able to get to because it moments like these are those
moments where you kind of get to know yourself better as well, right?
Whenever you're having these conversations privately with someone like your husband,
like I do, it's different than whenever you get to get on stage and actually be vulnerable
It's different than whenever you get to get on stage and actually be vulnerable with an audience.
with an audience.
And so I'm just really grateful for that because it's I think it's beneficial for everybody to do in their life.
And I'm grateful that you guys opened that door.
Go for it, Jentech.
Yeah.
No, this has been an incredible incredible space again i'm super super proud
of snazzy for coming up and just um just owning this moment owning her moment and um just talking
about who she is on a deeper level um like i said before sometimes as artists like people just see
the beautiful art and they don't necessarily tap in deep. So I'm very appreciative, very honored.
Like I said before, just to have been able to have the opportunity to, you know, to ask you these different questions and just allow people to like really hear you and know you on a deeper level.
I think that's so important for people to connect.
My closing thoughts are incredible, incredible woman.
Definitely do more thorough
research into schnazzy. Dive in deep, like look into the books that her husband has written,
look into her artwork, her pieces. I will be plugging or like putting a post together of all
of her websites and where you can find everything. But I think,
again, incredible women. I'm really, really happy that I was able to interview you. And
I hope everybody got inspired. I definitely got inspired. You're definitely motivating me. So appreciate everyone in the space really really do thank you so much again for being here guys
uh snazzy if you wanted to pin up that last uh piece up on the jumbotron zonetech's gonna play
an outro song give a few uh a few more minutes for everyone to go raid that jumbotron, Zonetech's going to play an outro song, give a few more minutes for everyone to go raid that Jumbotron before I rug this space.
So if you want to do that, Snazzy, go for it.
Put it in the comments as well.
We'll definitely check out your latest piece.
And yeah, guys, definitely tap into Snazzy.
Follow her if you haven't yet.
Definitely see some big legends in this space.
We've got Crypto Queen in the house.
Mojico.
We've got a bunch of new people, new listeners.
Gary Doge down there as well, and Falco5, and a bunch of new fam.
So really appreciate you showing up, supporting,
and then definitely tap into our Breaking into Blockchain Art space.
It's going to be episode four of that show this Friday.
So that's up in the Jumbotron as well.
save your space reminders.
Me and zone,
Zoni Smith,
zone tech is going to be back for,
another great,
space.
And,
about art,
you know,
about all things,
blockchain art.
So definitely tap into that fam.
Really appreciate everyone again,
showing up,
supporting,
make sure you're following crypto fam,
radios,
own text,
as he, all the amazing speakers up here. And, uh, yeah, appreciate everyone again showing up supporting make sure you're following crypto fam radios on text nazi all the amazing speakers up here and uh yeah appreciate everyone uh being here again
and uh happy happy wednesday all right make sure uh you guys are grinding like always right it's
hump day so uh doing all the things and uh you know just being the best version of yourself all
right so anyway take care.
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