What is Pike?

Recorded: Feb. 1, 2024 Duration: 1:00:09

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I don't wake up in the middle of the night
You go, force go
Everything will disappear
There's someone out here
Travel far too many
Go, nowhere
Nothing there is ever reason
You go, force go
Everything will disappear
There's somebody out here
The energy of the fun that gets us.
The heat of the fun that gets us.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
So come on out here.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
The energy of the fun that gets us.
With the inner test I'm fighting the X-Wrest
The heat of the test I'm fighting the X-Wrest
With the inner test I'm fighting the X-Wrest
With the inner test I'm fighting the X-Wrest
The heat of the test I'm fighting the X-Wrest
With the inner test I'm fighting the X-Wrest
Keep brackets and you've got in your future like a heart attack or something, but um regardless mr
Mr. Danny pipelines. How are you doing today, sir? We got the pipeline on stage. How are we going?
We're firing on all cylinders
So we had a brand new episode dropped this morning chatting with the pipeline interns some of the best content creators in monad
community ready to dish out some come on ads and
Hopefully, uh here a little bit less from john w rich kid over the next hour
Yeah, i'm glad you were gone the last two weeks john. That's what i'm hoping to i mean i'm just kidding
I missed you. I missed you a lot. Yeah. Okay, you know, you know, I appreciate those kind words
And I uh i'll be in the middle of eating lunch
I actually this is actually my third lunch of the day, but i'll be eating lunch
So i'm you know happy jumping in and out
I of course don't want to take the stage from all maybe alpha drop from you know, danny pipelines pancakes
Even though I did have pancakes this morning in tunes, but uh, you know things are good. I'm happy to be here
I haven't been here in a little bit
Awesome. Awesome. I'm glad you're here
Just uh even out the iq bell curve of this of this amazing
This amazing chat we have today. We've got pike finance in the house. Mr. Pike himself
Uh, can you give can you give us a little introduction on yourself, please? Sir. We want to we want to know who you are
Yeah, i'm yeah i'm apparently mr. Pike. Um
I've been called lots of things in the monad discord
The pike discord i'm all over the fucking sorry. Can I swear is that a loud?
Oh, do you do? Oh, dude, we got to kick you out actually for sure
We got to do john w rich kid. Uh, oh man
I'm only 17, but I could take i'm australian. So this is this is like how people talk when they're 10 here
So, you know, it's like it's basically a different language
Just let it rip, bro. Cheers, man. But yeah, um, yeah, my name is sashant. I do
Growth at pike, which is uh now live on mainnet
And yeah, i'm I don't even know what the fuck to say. Honestly, i'm kind of it's actually crazy because i've been listening to these spaces
For like the longest time these like what what is monad and like all the monad stuff
It's just forever and now i'm online, which is like insane
Um, so i'm dude you're him you're hit we got him. Yeah, right in person
Um, that's amazing. So i'm kind of, you know, still trying to process that. Um, but yeah, dude, the tunes were banging at the start
I'm like, holy shit. This is insane. Uh, you know, I can't really
Can't really blame all mate for for dancing to them. Um, but yeah, anyway, sorry, i'll fucking answer your question intro
I just wrote service all over the shop. Uh, I did growth at pike. We just launched a mainnet like an hour ago
Um, we got a pretty sick twitter space coming up with with unis
Um, you know co-founder of monad, of course as well as go down as a wormhole
We got a guy over from pith. I shouldn't say a guy, you know one of the lead contributors
And this is kind of like everything we're doing right now
Uh, and pike is basically like a crochet lending market
You deposit assets on one chain and then you borrow against them on another chain
And kind of like what we're really trying to achieve
You know monad is obviously the biggest thing that I think is coming to the pick is like we're bringing salina performance
Evm, but we're staying like, you know, all of these new roll-ups
We've got like dimension going live soon and you're gonna have like so many different chains and all of these like different ecosystems
And what we're trying to do with pike is kind of connect all of them. And so, you know early on
we're just trying to connect like evm and salata evm and cosmos and kind of just like
Unify all the liquidity no matter where it is within d-fire and then fast forward a few years
Eventually, we'll be at a place where like you don't even know what chain you're on
And hopefully pike is one of those protocols that kind of makes that a reality. Hopefully that'll make sense
Yeah, that doesn't I mean I never know what chain i'm on for the record
That makes sense I have a question so right now if i'm on
And I want to lens or borrow on salana. How is that possible with anything that exists or would pike be the first?
Yeah, nothing exists. Like there's very few verticals that even connect
Uh evm would sell like in any capacity other than unit bridges
It might be a couple cross chain DEXs that i'm not aware of
Um, but as far as lending is concerned, yeah, there's nothing
Uh, and it's because it's it's really really hard. Uh, and you know, we've launched but we're only live on evm at the moment
based optimism with theorem and arbitrum
Salana is definitely a top priority, but this shit is just difficult, right?
Like we can't talk are they and then just slap some omni chain stuff on top and call it a day
We have to like build this from scratch and it's it's just really difficult, but it's a top priority
So hopefully hopefully before the end of the year even but you know promises that
Awesome awesome, that's that's super super exciting. Um
Yeah, I mean that's just like such a unique offer that I don't think we've seen
Um really explored too much. I think
The evm and the svm are very
like non compatible
Just like virtual machines, but it seems like you guys have this thesis of
Connecting them and then I think monad kind of fits into that where
Monad can bring that performance to the evm
Then you can have that kind of cross-chain performance across the evm and the svm and you put pike right in the middle to do
Um, you know you're borrowing and lending exactly, right?
Like yes spot on like what mona's gonna bring to performance evm is like is literally next level
Wow, so it sounds like you uh
You're uh, you're a monad and you're an app. Yeah, is that is that fair to say?
I've been in the discord since november people are calling me an og just because i've been here for like three months now
Uh, i'd see there are people who have been in the discord since november of twenty twenty. Yeah, right
So, you know, you're kind of late actually, you're not I don't know if we can call you an og
I guess we got a fraud up here. I'm fake og
That's awesome, man, um
So yeah, I mean i'd love to just I know I feel like pike is a very easy to understand thing
And it's like a very obvious like use case
Yeah, I mean like what what what is it like like being on a team like that and then just kind of
Seeing things go from zero to one and then now you're here in its main net like what is
What has that been like and then what does it actually mean when your main net is live?
Yeah, man, like this this journey has been literally insane like
You know, we've been working on this for 13 months now, which isn't actually that long
But it's just been like non-stop grinding on pike and you know, funnily enough. So this is like a little
Known like story that like a lot of people just don't know about pike and it's not really that public
I wish you were really in the weeds of the polka dot ecosystem, which I think no one's in the weeds or getting more from being honest
but originally how pike started was
You know within polka dot like something that's like cool about polka dot that what people
Maybe you know people who are listening don't actually know about
Is polka dot has had like this cross chain messaging called xcm since day one when they went live
You could literally not need bridging not need any wrapped assets. You could just xcm
Uh, you know cross chain messaging is literally what the the acronym stands for between all the parachains and it works perfectly
And there was no third party. It was completely it was like part of the
Like the actual infrastructure the architecture polka dot itself and why that's cool
I mean, it's obvious why it's cool
But what we were doing because we were building a lending market for polka dot
That actually made use of this because then you could do like these cross chain borrow lens like seamlessly without having to bridge
And you know, it's better even in polka dot because there was no third party like, you know
Reliance or risk associated because it was just like a fundamental part of polka dot
That ecosystem has like a lot of growing up to do a lot like in my opinion
and you know lost a lot of momentum and we're like
You know, we're building all this cool stuff and like no one's really seeing it
Like it's not seeing the light of day just because it's like in an ecosystem that has like it's kind of dead
If i'm really honest, um, which is sad because the technology there is literally something or not
And so then you know, I had worked with two of the execs and sorry to the co-founders of wormhole
Um, and you know, we got talking, uh, and obviously, you know the team here at mess finance
Which is like the team that builds pike we'd been working with the wormhole team for for ages
Um, and then we kind of came together and was like we need to build what we built on polka dot
But for just the rest of defi and because wormhole was building
The same sort of technology cross chain messaging not needing to bridge assets or anything. You just you know message between chains
Lot safer what just faster as well?
Um, we're like, hey, we need to bring this to evm and to like non evm as well
um, and so that was like, you know, uh, I want to say halfway like q3 2022
And so, you know, we were building like the groundwork and we started building really cool relationships with ecosystem teams like base
Uh, you know teams like pith and so on and so forth
Um, and it's just been like a super super long
uh journey and we've kind of been operating itself as well until like december when we went live with our tessna just because
It's such a hard thing to do like, you know
Like I mentioned before we can't just fork are they and then like make it omni chain
We're having to build this from scratch, which means
It's like I don't oh, I love that word. Scratch is my favorite word
Um, it's like yeah, it's like we had nothing, right?
It's like we've got like an empty drawing board. It's like, okay, how do we build?
We know what the idea we know what the visions supposed to look like
We have all these ingredients, which is like technology whether it be like the question price feeds on clips or crochet message from wormhole
What's these different circles?
But it's like how do we actually combine all of these things together to actually create something that works and is meaningful
And that entire process has been you know, just just so so long. I remember
I was at eat cc uh with terry one of the co-founders of pike and we were at a wormhole hackathon
And there was like 20 people there like no one cared about pike
I don't want to say no one cared about wormhole, but it was just like all the attention was on me everything else
I was going like lst's
Etc. And we were kind of in this like rinky dink hackathon house
Uh or hacker house and there's like very few people but
You know, and we actually had this kind of embarrassing we had like, uh
We were like letting people create like a liquidation bot like a cross chain liquidation bot
So of course it's going to be like brand new and nothing like it exists and like no one submitted anything for it
And I was like, bro, this is just sad
It's like we all we came over to paris and like no like one fucking dude didn't care enough to like submit anything
But you know
We had to stay grinding and i'm like that was just how it is
It's like we weren't getting the attention that we thought we deserved other than you know from people like wormhole
Which is why we're so loyal to them because they've always been loyal to us
Um, and they've been supporting us since like before day one
Um, and so like going through that journey of like we're trying to get press
We're trying to build a community but like no one cares, you know, everyone's on the hot thing
Everyone cares about eigen way or this or that and no one really cares about pike and it was like a very
You know sad time but you know
I I put on like the david goggins like motivational videos to like get myself hyped and be like, you know
If no one cares, I know I care and then you know, like as time goes on we're getting closer to testnet more and more people
Oh shit, this is actually pretty cool
Then testnet goes live and then we start really building our community
And we learned a ton from the monad like from the monad from a monad team
Like what you guys did was like insane. So like you know
Like shamelessly like copy pasted a bunch of that stuff
Um, and it's worked really really well
Like we've built this amazing through the passion community and i'm kind of rambling but it is what it is. Um
And yeah now fast forward 13 15 16 months
We're now live on mainnet. We have like 10k in tvl
And yeah, that's kind of the the journey
Yes, how much tv we've got like 12k, I think it's fucking it's popping oh dude, that's sick
That's enough to buy wendy's for a whole year. I think oh, yeah
I think um, I think yeah, I think you have a really cool story. I also love that
I didn't I think the one part I didn't know about you guys was that you built in stealth
that must be
That must be really cool to kind of I think when you guys start building
You're like, okay crypto is kind of dead first. We we kind of hope that this comes back
Second you're like well
If we're gonna build on wormhole
It's probably important that like solana hat like comes back and then you see solana go on a crazy run
And then third, you know
You see kind of the monad wormhole vibes and how that kind of all kicks off and then you know wormhole is kind of like
getting lots of attention and then you guys are like wow the all the stars are aligning
Let's just go live and then you guys come out of stealth and then boom
Your community is just so vibrant and active and then here you are at mainnet
It feels like all the stars are kind of aligned for you guys
And you're just like in a really good position to capture a lot of
Mind space and like narrative and actually bring a really good product to market that has
Um a differentiated use case like the fact that that doesn't exist today and you guys are going to make it
Real is just it's so cool to me. So, you know, just massive kudos to you guys and I feel like that's just an incredible story
Yeah, she is man. It's uh, yeah, it's been a long time
A long time coming and like yeah, you're completely right. It's like we had to have
Conviction on like a few pieces. It's like
Layer zero was like all the rage and it's like
You know when we were like helping wormhole a lot or like press that and like things weren't working necessarily all the time
And then we look at layer zero and it's like holy shit, you know
They've been live for ages and it works perfectly but it's like, you know technology is one thing
But it's like the people behind it are actually like what makes things special
Um, and so, you know, we like double down on the wormhole team
We're like we're gonna like see this through no matter what with them and same with this a lot of um
I kept hearing like solanas coming back solanas coming back
But it's like we knew this from the wormhole team like months and events like a lot of people don't know that wormhole
Literally came into existence to be the only bridge to connect ethereum and solana like before wormhole went live
There was literally no way to get assets from ethereum solana without like using a centralized exchange
And like so these guys like it's it's like a fundamental part of the ethos that you know
Other teams just aren't able to replicate in my opinion at least
And so like we're so happy to have them like be part of this journey
Um, and now, you know, we've become like so friendly to the mona and it's like we're seeing that same sort of ethos
That we saw in wormhole in the mona team as well. Like you guys are all about
Collaboration more than like oh we're going to be the best and like we're going to destroy everyone
Which is like exactly what we want to see
So like kudos to you guys as well, like you could have very easily gone to we're better than everyone
We're an eth killer, but you guys didn't you guys focused on the values that make d5 fun
Yeah, I appreciate that and I I don't think anyone uh the mona team thinks that mona is an eth killer. I think it's very much
You know when you build things from scratch and you don't just you know, fork and tweak and you know
Kind of hack your way to performance
I think you introduce things basically just to the market as a whole that others can take from
And uh, it's the type of thing that can actually just meaningfully advance the industry
And yeah, I really appreciate that
And it'll be really really cool when you have this
Solana in my opinion is like
Like I think it's my favorite layer one just from their performance environment and their centralization
And I think when you see a similar sort of environment on the evm
And then you see pike come along and say oh, yeah, you'll be able to
Be on monad and bar from solana. I feel like it's kind of like oh, that's actually really really cool
It makes a lot of sense. And so
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Why monad and pike have some some good synergy there and why you know, we're just super
Excited to have you on stage. This is so cool
I'm a massive fan of pike and I feel like you guys have a really bright future and it's just awesome that your main is today
um, solana itself
having it's it's it's been it was main character kind of last year and it feels like
There's a lot of projects that are kind of like either like doing airdrops or like kind of coming out of the woodwork
And like they themselves are becoming main characters. And so
Yeah, I think you find yourself
You guys find yourself in a really really great position, uh to just kind of like, you know, do really well
Uh, so yeah super bullish on you guys. I'm glad glad you're here. This is uh, such good vibes
We always have such good guests
Since he's been talking since he's been talking I I've I've I've given his protocol money. So he killed me
Is the tvl now twelve thousand and ten? Yeah, it's eighteen thousand million dollars
I feel like that'll be
I just maxed out the usdc and eath. I just I was pilled when you started talking. That's fuck. Yeah. Yeah, that's um
Yeah, I mean that tvl being at that that screams opportunity to me
But obviously, um, i'm not trying to give any financial advice or anything like all the financial advice comes from john
And if you take financial advice from john you deserve to lose everything
Uh, I just want to like mention one thing as well
Like, you know, I joked about like 12k tvl at the start and I mean it could be a lot more
But like we've deliberately put like really teeny tiny caps on all the assets
Like you can only deposit 0.1 e 100 usdc
Which is like nothing, right? Um
And we did it for like a few reasons
But like the biggest reason is like safety and security like this is a brand new protocol
It's not based on anything
It's you know had two audits, but it's still being altered many more times
And it's like we do like of course
You don't want to be like the person is always paranoid and like preparing for the worst
But like we want to like we want like this next cycle that's coming up
We want pike to be looked at like people looked at are they you know last cycle kind of like a paradigm
Definer or like a vertical like stall let's say. Um
And in order to do that
We got to be like we got to take safety first
In like millions in tvl and be like, oh, yeah, we got tvl numbers. We're screaming through the roof
Um, but we do want to take things slow because you know, we want to be here for the next five six seven years
So there's no rush tvl will come
Oh, yeah, it's not um
I think yeah day one tvls. I mean you guys went live two hours ago. I don't think that actually matters. Um, but yeah
Yeah, I think i'm excited about you guys, um, hold on I want let's go let's let's pause let's shift gears really quickly
Unfortunately, we have to give the floor to john w rich kid
So if anyone wants to like go take like a five-minute break
Like listen to music use a bathroom like like anything like that like mute your phone and then come back in five minutes
Yeah, i'm gonna do my ios update. Uh, yeah
Yeah, exactly go check out other spaces really quickly, but come back
Well, we'll be we'll be back right after this. All right. Yes time for what I would consider to be the main event
Well, uh su shot sir. Mr pike, sir
I have to say it is mesmerizing listening to you and your australian accent i've been to sydney north dakota before but i've never been
To sydney australia. So hopefully one day i'll make it out there
Okay, I must say that uh for those of you who don't know there is a purge that happens in the monad lock telegram with
999 people every single week and
When I should have been working and flipping burgers at wendy's I decided to write up a little speech
That I want to read because I know there's a lot of you guys that are in here right now
So without further ado, I would like to say that ladies and gentlemen members of the great monad telegram today
We gather not just as individuals in the digital realm
But as guardians of a shared connection
As the digital winds of time sweep through our chat we find ourselves at the precipice of a momentous event
Thursday purge day
In the vast landscape of our monad each one of you is a vital node and a beacon in the sea of electrons
Yet there are those among us who have become shadows
Mere echoes in the corridors of our conversation and we stand on the brink of a decision
A purging of the inactive and a pruning of the digital garden
Where we will remove people who have been inactive in the telegram space and make room for people who are active in the community
As we embark on this purging
Let it be a collective act of renewal for every departure is a step toward the rejuvenation of our nads
And let us remember the strength of our community lies not only in the number of our members
But in the passion and engagement that each one of you brings every single day
So my fellow monad dwellers, I hereby declare that the purge is going to be commenced god speed
I love you all maybe accept tunes
I got a mute here to go talk to rose because she's sitting in wendy's booth right now
I'm going to go get her to she's going to start purging. So, uh, i'm gonna mute i'm gonna pass it back
Bro, that should bow to my eye. I need a fucking tissue after that
Chat is getting pretty good
He got your name wrong, but other than that, he really did a good job. What did he say precipitous?
Whatever he said that word was not I was not ready for cat gpc to give me that word. Okay
I've never seen that in my word. That was was not the right word, but
That was neither was nunez, but he you know tunes just close enough. That wasn't that wasn't so bad. That was actually
That was actually decent. Um, but anyways, yeah, we are purging
a little bit of a special day
Praying that all goes well, but more on that later. Um
Yeah, so back back to pike or even we could pause for a second and talk to pancakes
mr. Pancakes, um
Give us give us like, uh some life advice or just like a little piece of wisdom that we talked with for a second and just
Just reflect on how fortunate we all are to be
in this community together in this industry like doing all this crazy fun stuff with internet money like
Yeah, i'd say zoom out a little bit and realize that we are
Not only the weirdest people in the world
But also some of the most fortunate to be in the space that we're in. Um, I know we make fun of normies a lot
Um, I know we talk about new blood a lot blah blah blah all this stuff
But for a lot of people that have been here
Uh since 2016 17 even since 2021 you're in a really really really lucky
Place, uh, or or you're lucky to be in this place. It's hard to stumble upon this place
Um, it's hard to stumble upon this place and also
Have the guts to stick around because we're not all all nice
John is a really mean person and he has a lot of influence in the space and it's hard to put up with that sometimes
um, but I would say that just zoom out and um
Trying to remember that we're all on the same team here
Um when it comes to crypto web 3 whatever you want to call it
We really are all on the same team. We can we can argue and debate and and and
Sort of fight it amongst each other
But we don't need to to cult up against each other and uh, just realize how lucky we are
To be in the center of this and if you pay attention
You can do really well for yourself very quickly
And uh, i'm just i'm just elated the last three years have been a complete dream
Uh, I used to look up to cryptunes as like an og who still is absolutely
But somebody I would never even get to talk to and then I I toured a castle in lisbon with him
And and now I co-host the spaces with them and it it makes me emotional. I love it
It's just you can do anything in the space you want. I came in with zero connections
I just started talking to people and going to conferences
And uh, yeah, just be grateful be grateful you're here even if you have a small account and just keep grinding
Life advice from pancakes. Thank you
That was that was very good. Am I an og? That's pretty cool. I feel like I feel like you're an og
Are you kidding me?
I guess I mean I feel like uh
I feel like that term is just kind of like
I don't know
But anyways, but anyways, oh man, I'm about to think it just means you have a lot of followers
I don't know. I don't actually know anymore
Yeah, yeah, that's that's super nice. Let's can we throw it to danny danny?
Can you can you give us something something to work with please would really would really appreciate that for for a few minutes
Yeah, man, I don't know if
Uh, if i'm really cleared to drop this alpha
But obviously pretty excited about what pike's been doing for kind of a while now and
So much synergy with the monad community there's so many good vibes so many people creating awesome memes and content
It's just like you can hop right in and it just feels like home, which is really ideal
I think when you're talking about communities and and really like this space is all over the map
You know some communities are are not as organic as the monad community and the pike community is
So for that reason, I guess I will do this alpha drop
We're going to be recording an episode of the pipeline next week
With some of the chads over at pike finance
So stay tuned for that probably some significant alpha dropped in that conversation
And at the very least a great chat with some awesome builders and really excited to see where this goes
Wow, that was
That was good so much
So much wholesomeness and good vibes here. I love this. I love I love how we can just have range in the spaces
This is uh, this is super nice
Love the vibes from pancakes all the vibes from danny glad we got john w richkin out here
But I think we can bring it back to pike. Um
Yeah, I mean is there anything is there any I guess maybe
Maybe we could talk about monad monitor pike. Mr pike
I want to open it up to you to basically talk about either pike or monad and just kind of like
What you're excited about uh for this year, man, i've kind of been rambling about pike
So I think yeah, definitely give some attention to the monad. Uh, I don't know. I keep calling it the monad
It's just a habit for some type of reason
But yeah, I think honestly i've been saying to people that like monads launch is probably
Going to be the most anticipated launch that defy has ever seen
Around it than monad
Which is insane because like i'm trying to think of like what's happened in the past and like i've been here
You know, this is like really like full-time since defy summer
and like obviously there's a lot of excitement around stuff but like
in the midst of the bear market people are like banging the monad drum and
it's like it makes me super excited because it's like
It's not that I have anything against like, you know vcs or like institutions or
You know like corporates, but it's like it seems that like this monad is going to be such a huge player and like
defy just from now on but it's like you guys are from
Defy if that makes sense because I feel like and this is something that I wanted to really cultivate with pike
It's like everyone on the team is a degenerate everyone on the team has like aped money into dumbass rug pulls
And like we've been through all of this
so we're not like suits coming in and you know and you can probably tell from like
How we do communication and how I talk publicly
It's just like we're just ourselves and we're very like degenerate in like how we speak and like the sort of content we put out
But obviously it's backed up by really meaningful technology and like actual meaningful development and building and it's fit
And you know monad I feel is doing the exact same thing
so I feel like
what we're seeing with monad and what you guys have really started is kind of that synthesis between
The people who are really defined native and like have actually spent time in the ecosystem and people who are actually
Really talented and meaningful builders and actually bringing some new technology to life. That's going to help everyone out
And I don't think we've actually really seen that before monad came on the scene at least in my opinion
That is such a that's such a vouch. That's that's so kind. I actually had dinner with james last night
and it's like so funny talking to him because like he's so smart, but then he's also so funny too and like
the way he like talks about just like innovation in general is like really really interesting and like talks about how like
people make assumptions about things and like with monad it's like
just do everything from first principles even like
things that like other blockchains would like assume are true just because blockchains before them and dumb them like always double checking and
Uh, it's just it's so funny. I we're gonna we got a main character james a little bit more in the coming year
Uh, we know that like everyone obviously loves kioni and kioni ceo, but you know, james is the one pressing the buttons
Uh, you know in the in the gross basement just like at like three in the morning on like christmas night
just like devying super super hard
Yeah, it's it's really cool. I really appreciate that you said
it means a lot when like other people say good things about monad then when like when someone like in the
Technically in the community or like in the on the team says it about it because it's just very like validating
And I hope that gives
You know more confidence to just like the community and like what's going on here is really something special
And I love that pike itself is like a project that can I feel like really benefit from that so
just a lot of great synergy and
Yeah, it's it's it's good to feel like there's you know, real innovation going on not just kind of
forks and tweaks, um, but actually like building stuff from scratch because
We really I think we need more people building stuff from scratch. Honestly, like I feel like
there's there haven't barely been any instances of like
A blockchain or like a protocol getting forked and then that fork ends up being bigger than you know, the initial
Deployment and so I think we need a lot more of just like risk taking and innovation and like pushing forward
You know these like new ideas and things that haven't really been explored before
So, you know, it's it's really awesome here that you're excited really appreciate that
and yeah, I mean that's I I don't know I mean it's like
as far as like the most hyped up thing ever like I don't know I feel like
I don't I don't know but you know, like it's just it's it's interesting how like the
the industry like advances and develops over the years because like if you go if you
Flashback like four years ago. There was no such thing as like farming or whatever
But then now it's like everyone's looking at like, oh, what's like new and like how can I get involved early?
Where like back then it would just kind of be like oh something launched and like now that it launched
There's like different ways to get involved. But now it's like
Everything gets like super anticipated and people like oh this thing will launch like six months from now
Like what can I do?
And it it just it's just interesting and you know, I mean I feel fortunate to be obviously working
On the team and yeah, I feel like i'm kind of rambling now. So maybe I can pass it off to mr. Pancakes
Just yeah
Just to talk a bit
No, I just wanted to say how grateful I am just to work with you guys
For this little bit of time i've worked with you guys and co-host of spaces with you
I was aware of the community and kind of involved in it
Earlier on and then I think it was just one time
He asked me to just jump into space and do it and then we were just like let's just keep it rolling
Like I said, i've known you and john rich about I think john rich
He was the first like bigger account to become friends with me when I had like 200 followers
So he actually is a really nice guy behind all that all that horrible energy he puts off
Um, he's actually a very very sweet person
And uh, but no yet i'm just i'm just grateful to be here and a part of this community that feels like um
My last cycle super in the trenches and I would I would not want to be in the trenches with anybody else but you guys
So i'm super super excited and shout out to pipeline. You you guys are doing a really really really good job with with the podcast. Um
pleasantly surprised, um
It's tough to do a crypto podcast and anyone really give a fuck excuse my language
But it's hard and you guys are doing a great job. So shout out to danny
Well, thank you pancakes and appreciate the the kind words there
It's been honestly really really fun like super blessed to have so many awesome contributors coming
interested to to hop on the pipeline and and share their wealth of knowledge their experiences we've had
everyone from the devious devs and the
The most profitable traders as well as the least profitable traders on the pipeline
so it's been an awesome range of of perspectives and
uh, kind of like circling back to to what you guys have been talking about I think
One thing that's really aligned about both the pike team and the monad team is that we're building all day
In the community for the community and that's honestly pretty unique like everyone knows
At the end of the day that community is a really important aspect of crypto
but they don't necessarily draw that connection to like building in the community day in and day out and
Keeping those chats lively and making sure that the people that are supporting your project
Understand the the goals and the mission behind what you're building towards and when you reach that that point where?
uh, everyone's kind of synced up and aligned and the community sees that everyone from top leadership to
The newest employees at at a company like myself that are in the community day in and day out
It just creates this unique environment that gets everyone a lot more excited
so i'm certainly really pumped to have seen that out of both communities here and
Excited to see what this blossoms into right like pike
Just going to main net an hour ago monad being pre devnet like fully pre-product and seeing both
communities coming on so strong
When there's actual innovation at the end of this and actual products that you can interface with and experience a much better user
Experience than ever before in crypto. That's when it becomes a real game changer
Yes, I completely agree I just wanted to make one request before we ended up getting too close to time
Um, can I have a pike hat? Thank you. That's all I had to ask, you know, it's funny
We've got like this inside sort of superstition
We've always seen that and I don't want to I don't want to jinx monad
Uh, because I think you guys have kind of you guys are fine
We've found that if we or like anyone we know creates merch before the product is live
It's it's it's not good. It's always like it always results in bad things
So we've deliberately like not made any pike merch like at all
And but now that we have a mainnet you'll get a pike hat for sure. You'll get a fucking
Oh, I thought you were about to run me. Okay
I also have a request. I also could I get a pike hat but could I get one before pancakes so that I can
Whoa, wow. Okay, whatever the first one he deserves it. Yeah, why not number one of one for sure
We've actually sent out we sent out lots of like merch and like swag packs, which I think people really appreciate
Yeah, just just a tip. Uh
I get mine in like I'll get mine in two weeks. I'm excited when I get to natural
Yeah, definitely do it and do it in a way. That's like
Manual, I think people appreciate it a lot manual. Yeah, what does that what does that mean?
You know what manual means? I mean like a like a car but like like
You don't know what that word means man. I know what you're doing something manually
I don't know what you mean in this context. No, but I I will I will tweet about it if that's what you mean
Nunez is it's my alter ego manual actually
I'm learning a lot
I basically I basically mean what what a monotone will do is like
I feel like I dropped too much alpha in the spaces, but
Like well, I don't know we'll send someone a hat
but then we like we like write them like a personalized note that's like
includes like
Context about their contributions to the community and stuff like that and I feel like people really appreciate that
So when I say do it manually, I mean like do it in a way
That's like you can't scale it kind of like it's something
Only way to do it. Well is like it's going to take time and like be you know, no shortcuts type of thing
Yeah, I believe in doing the unscalable and doing the unscalable for as long as possible both with the musicians I work with
And with crypto stuff just do what is unscalable until you literally can't do it anymore
Yeah, yeah, honestly, I feel like for something like this we just do it forever like
yeah, like I feel like this there's never a time where this can be like an automatic thing because it's like
It only means so much like I can talk to people and like i've been on calls with just random people in the community
And like in the dms and whatnot and told them like how much I appreciate them
Actually doing a gesture like giving them a gift and then like writing a note to them and being like
This is what you've done for us and we want to show appreciation any way we can
Just mean so much not only to us, but also obviously the person receiving it
Awesome this is such good. This is a this is a more wholesome space and I was anticipating. Um,
Can we get some alpha leaks on pike?
Um, can we what what should we expect?
What's like do you have a roadmap? Can we get some some insider information on here just for the monad community?
Oh man, this is so much and I don't want to get in trouble
Getting trouble getting trouble getting getting trouble. It's worth it. Come on, uh, which is good sometimes and sometimes it's not
Um, but I mean it's all right. That's right. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it
We're alpha hunters at the end of the day
Obviously mainnet's live but
um, you know, we're not gonna have the caps forever, um, and
You know, let's just say because we're powered by wormhole like
That's there's some good stuff going on there. I'll just leave
That's that's really interesting, um, so moving forward, um danny pipelines, sir, um
hat, what's it what's it like? What's it like? I feel like you're
You're you're becoming a media mogul and like a year from now
You're going to be like the biggest tick-tock influencer and all of crypto. That's our goal. We got to make him the biggest
What's what's what's that been like for you? What what are your goals for this year? I want to know
I mean, yeah, it's it's actually kind of interesting because personally I try not to
To think about like tying all the growth metrics back to like how how I feel about myself and certainly was never
thinking that I would like go on the the path of
Media on a very public stage, but that certainly is the goal
um, but like with that i'm really trying to make it as little about me as possible and as much about
Monad and the broader community as possible because ultimately that's what it's about. That's what we're highlighting here
It has ultimately nothing really to do with with me personally
So i'm just trying to amplify all the awesome stuff that monads team and community is doing
As well as our awesome ecosystem collaborators and builders like pike finance
So certainly a goal to to grow the pipeline into one of the most wholesome and broadly watched
listened to podcasts and media brands within crypto, but
um kind of separating that from my own personal brand because ultimately like i'm not an influencer I
Uh certainly would not want to get to the the point where i'm being referred to as a kol
You're well on your way, sir
I definitely want the the pipeline to get the
Get as much visibility as possible because ultimately that means monad and the community and the awesome stuff
That's being worked on here is is getting more visibility. So
Certainly my goal to have some some really supercharged guests on as we we go forward and talk to some awesome projects
I won't share my goals and the who I want to have on the podcast because
One I don't want to spoil the surprise and two
I don't want to make myself look really dumb if they don't end up coming on but
Really really excited for this year. I think it's going to be a game changer across crypto as a whole
Nunez I have an idea really quickly
I think I think at some point maybe like the one-year anniversary episode of the pipeline
We drop a t-shirt just with danny's face on it
I love that. I like i'm so bullish on the pipeline. I feel like uh
It's one of those things that like is just going to keep growing alongside monad
It'll be it'll be interesting to see him going cross-platform. That's that's what i'm really excited about
It's going to be some viral tiktok reels this time next year. So
Yeah, super super excited for that
Man, this is a good spot. I love that
I love that we got mr. Pike on I i'd be happy, you know for pike to be here every week
That would be cool. Um, I know we try to just kind of like talk to
Projects l ones just anyone building in crypto kind of just to see what the vibe is
I don't think we were like afraid of like anyone like to like talk to or whatever. I know there's a lot of like
I feel like there's like beef between like random projects for some reason all the time
I don't think it has to be like that at the end of the day crypto is still so small that if any one
Project or layer one or game goes mainstream. That's actually just going to benefit everyone else. So
you know just got to grow the pie and
So in some cases you got you got pie and pie crust
I feel like that's like monad and pike because we're so centered like we're like a recipe
It's like you like got like butter and like sugar and we're making cookies
you know what I mean, so it's really nice to have you know have you up here and
Yeah, mayonnaise live today. That's a that's a massive moment. What uh, what has it been like?
What's it been like internally just kind of like from uh,
Has anyone been like reflecting on like wow, this is just insane that it's actually live
Like what's that kind of been like for the team? No, everyone's kind of panicking
Oh really nice. Yeah, I bet I bet we were supposed to go live at 10
But then there were some things that we had to like button up. So we like went live at like 10 15
But yeah, I mean that's like with every I mean obviously when you guys go live on mainnet or even when you guys go
Go live on test night. It's going to be absolutely chaos
Um, but now you know, okay, it's been a couple hours now, you know, we've cracked open some Thai beers because we're all here in Thailand
And you know things aren't calm
But they're not as crazy as they were like the last five days because it's kind of like a weight off our chest
It's finally live people are using it, which is exactly what we want
And just one thing a bit more alpha
So speaking of community only that's happened in our community, which is amazing
There's actually been this like community driven nft collection and like I saw it
Go from like ideation in the general chat to people saying oh, what should it include blah blah blah blah blah?
And now mint is actually at 2 p.m. Eastern
Um, so if you got white list, uh from like having the nads roll or having the nomad roll
You actually mint it at 2 p.m. It's not announced yet. I don't think but check that out. Yeah
That's uh, that's that's pretty cool. I love that. I love that
I think uh, I love community stuff. That's so cool
I I feel like nfts in general are just like really bullish on that and I bet there's gonna be lots of really cool nfts
I'm on that too
Yeah, lots of i've been i've been seeing that pop up like
Nfts like I think elixir is doing some nfts soon
Um, like just just lots of cool projects doing nfts
Um, and and they're all just like community driven and like
I don't know. It's it's really cool
I feel like this year is the year that like nfts and crypto kind of converge and like
I I would imagine a year from now like nfts feel like
Way more immersed into all of crypto because it's so kind of like I feel like everything's still kind of separated
but then you see like prime examples, like I feel like the
Dimension airdrop to pudgy penguins feels kind of like the canary in the coal mine of like, okay like
Maybe like these two sections are about to just kind of like become one
So super super cool that like you guys have like a community
Driven like collection just about pike like that's so cool. Definitely. Yeah
This is this is good stuff this is good stuff
Um, shoot. I mean should we let someone up? I feel like I feel like we can like
We're springing random up. We got a random but someone new
Yeah, we got has might is talking here before I feel like I love Midas. I love my
Midas will light you up. Do you have a question potentially or anything anything you want to offer up?
Well, well he's muted so we got we got one more option we got pro pro dromo
Pro dromo, okay. We got pro dromo up here pro dromo
You want to take the floor and you know, give us something to chew on
You got a little get a little stage fright like your buddy Midas
Or hey, just how are you doing today? How's it going?
He's gone
Oh man, this is it's it's you know, sometimes you get up on stage and then you realize that you know
You should have heard my first spaces ever with idex like a long time ago
It it was the worst thing you've ever heard in your life. Oh, really? Yeah, was that Midas?
Had to get back there we go
Nice nice. How are you doing, man? You got uh, you got anything for us? I'm good. Um
Shit, well i'm stoked about
Pike i've been playing with the you know, I was doing some test net stuff. I just
Supplied some op on mainnet. It's cool, man
Awesome. Yeah
Yeah, just enjoying listening
Hope you've been well, i'm not going to be a dimmer this year, but I hope you've been well
I haven't seen you in about a year now. Yeah, man
I wish you were going to be there. It's going to be fun
I think soon enough i'll see you soon. Oh, yeah
Yeah, I bet you I bet there'll be some cool announcements at denver
I feel like yeah, i'm gonna miss a lot of hats. I know it if anyone's there and get to me hats
Um, there's there's a nice, uh rewards. All right, I got you
I actually have this like theory
And this is gonna sound crazy and stupid
but like I could see eth denver being like this like blow off top for the market where like all these teams just make these
announcements and it's just like the pico like
Boom and then like kind of like six months like dry period
But you never know I could see that
That sounds plausible. There's a lot of stuff happening around that time
Yeah, because it's like eth denver is kind of the place to make your announcements and so
Everyone's just gonna like all at once
Euphoric like oh my god, all this stuff is happening and then it's like well, what's gonna follow so
I don't know. I could be wrong
That could be I mean it's like
You think about like the cycles and stuff
This this is still supposed to really just be the recovery here
You know, like if you look if you map it to like how the cycles worked at least last time
like and probably the time before that and the time
yeah, I mean it's like we've already
caught up significant ground in the market where
You know, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some stagnation, you know, like you already had the etfs
so long to run super hard like
I don't know. It's just
It's just my it's my intuition, but it could always just be super wrong on that because no one can predict the future
And when's the having?
Oh, yeah, the having was in like
April or may it's in uh, I thought it was late march. She could be able
Yeah, it says april that just googled it from yahoo finance. We're so good at crypto
Yeah, we're happening
Sushant. Um, do you have any any last words for about pike and kind of just what to look out for this year
and kind of just like
What makes you guys special and why like people should continue paying attention to you? Yeah, for sure
Well, that's the first part of the question
So more assets more ecosystems
Um, you know might be actually I won't say that
Um, but yeah, a lot of things are in the pipeline
Like we are wanting to move slow because we want to do this, right and we want to be here for the long term
But we'll be pushing updates on the mainnet every single wednesday
It's just like we've been doing for the test now. So it'll always be something new to check out
And like the feedback the community gives is like it's it doesn't fall on deaf ears like everything that you guys
Make sense that doesn't make sense or whatever
We like move on it extremely quickly
and I think that is also one of the things that makes us special like
If you look at we were live on testnet for like a month
But you look at how the testnet ended and where it started. It's like it's not unrecognizable
Obviously, but it's so so different and all those changes came to the community
We didn't just decide to like change things. It's because you know people in the community users, you know, like miters for example
Hold us that this is not good or like this could be better and this is how we would do it
And we take on that feedback and we implement it
We're not we never think of ourselves as knowing more or being better than the user because the user that kind of
You know allows us to be successful and by extension, you know, we can improve their lives as well
But I think going that like everyone talks about being user centric
we've proven that like our team values user feedback and user thoughts above or
And for my alone like exist
That's awesome
That's huge. Yeah
We should maybe i'm happy to have you on as the main guest again
uh, maybe in
I don't know two months or something like that like april maybe um
strongly encourage you to come back
And just kind of vibe because like we're trying to just get a bunch of cool projects and like all there's always room for some
Some some good old pike shilling, you know
without a doubt
Awesome. All right. Well, I know I know we're at time
Um, yeah, thanks everyone for listening
Shout out, you know the monad community and shout out
Uh, you know if there's any you know real
In the like that are here listening. Is that is that a good name pikers?
I think it's hyped. Let's just call them all pikes pikes is good. Yeah
One of my buddies was uh in the pike frat so
Maybe you guys can do like a fraternity thing or something. I don't know. I'm sure
The bet I would just put it in the community hands and all develop organically we can haze people
Yeah, yeah that can be
That can be your community differentiators that you that's like pike hazing or whatever
Um, but anyways
Yeah, I mean thanks everyone for joining. Thank you
Pancakes danny mr. Pike shout out pike finance mainnet live today
The tvl is only like
10 000 and you can interpret that one of two ways. Hopefully you see it as sorry. Oh, what's it at?
We're at 17 000 actually
You're welcome. All right, so we 50 we pumped it
I made I made 80 wallets during this race. Okay, so
Um, yeah, that's uh, that's really good. Um
Super excited about you guys and yeah happy to have you back on any time. Uh
Yeah, let's make some cookies pros. All right. Um
All right, thanks everyone for joining
uh, and uh
Yeah, once again, come on. Ed. Cheers. Come on. Ed. Cheers
Thanks for having me up