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What Makes a Killer Space Topic?
Recorded: June 25, 2025 Duration: 1:32:12Space Recording
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In a dynamic discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the latest trends and growth opportunities in the blockchain space, highlighting innovative projects like Layer 1X and Songjam, while emphasizing the importance of community engagement and strategic partnerships for success.
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Music Thank you. Music Thank you. Music Thank you. Thank you. this is how you start a space here i don't know about you guys but that music just like
it curated a level of zen that is just
so that's my only response i'm just i'm just chilling i'm just
relaxing i'm seeing some thumbs down from web three matters uh excuse me can you please go
off my didn't explain yourself no i just love that uh that the uh that the whole music that the uh
the stock twitter space music gets you this excited and that's how i know that we got an awesome team
at web3 matters right so happy wednesday everybody heck yeah okay wait wait let's not
skim that over stock music on x how did i not even know this uh tori is that you behind the co-host account here yeah yeah yeah it's me but um it just automatically plays now it seems
what wow okay okay so all the more reason to be a part of this epic space today because not only
do we have actual intro music to start off the space here uh but we're going to teach you how
to actually crush your spaces uh We have an incredible panel.
We've got my man Quantic in the audience here right now, who is also a member of Web3 Matters.
He's one of our founders here.
So feel free, Quantic, if you do want to jump up here and say hello.
My name's Trev.
And we've also got Web3 Matters here.
I'm affiliated with Web3 Matters. And behind the mic is the man, the myth, the legend,
Kobe Bean.
So much to do, so much to say.
I want to get to know all of our guests right now, but first and foremost, we definitely
have to have a quick chat here with Tori.
Tori, how are you doing?
How are you feeling today?
What's happening?
Good.
Good.
Happy Wednesday.
I almost forgot what day it was.
Yeah, busy week.
Busy week.
We've had some
feature launches on the site. We're working on a couple tests. And yeah, I'm excited to get into
this topic because it's one of the biggest questions that I get asked daily, I think,
when I'm talking to people that are like, what can X co-host do for us?
And I see a lot of spaces just on a daily basis. And I want to jump in and be like,
hey, you should try X, Y, and Z, you know, to get your space up a little bit higher.
So yeah, excited to be here. Excited to have you, Trav. Every week we do this, guys, with like kind of a new host and, um, just other creators and,
and helping everybody kind of get a little bit of a showcase on Xcohost. So,
and give some of their input. So I'm excited to hear everybody's takes today,
but, uh, yeah, excited to have you, Trav and Web3 Matters.
And, uh, let me just say, it's, it's a privilege to be here with you guys. It's, um, I mean,
I'll just start off at the bat by saying Xcohost has literally changed my life.
It has made going full-time in Web3 a real possibility for me,
and I am full force on making that happen.
And this is exactly what I needed in my life.
So huge shout-out to you, Tori.
Huge shout-out to Xcohost.
Really excited to be able to share the five years of hosting spaces with you guys and
get to know some epic guests that we have on our lineup here today i'm going to send the mic over
to you here kobe uh who's behind our web3 matters account but before i do i want to give this space
some love everyone i've linked the the link to the space up top in the jumbotron if you can take a
moment and uh just yeah do the things comment repost um
comments on a comment even you know what the secret alpha i've learned in my experience is
bookmarks so if you want to bookmark that that would be excellent and this is all with the meat
the with the motivation of wanting to share x co-host with the world wanting to share the power
of spaces with the world and um yeah it genuinely can open up so
many opportunities for you guys here so without further ado kobe how you feeling my friend it's
great to have you here well it's great to be here man i think this is awesome that the ex-co-host
does this and i know that we've been tapped in with ex-co-host for gosh maybe going on a year now
if not longer uh you'd have to maybe correct me if I'm wrong, but, you know,
all the way back from the very beginning. So super excited to be able to have an opportunity
here with, you know, to have a spot on this weekly panel here with kind of the
cohorts of the ex-co-host, you know, community, so to speak. And so, yeah, I'm excited, man. I'm a
little bit under the weather.
And I think it's because I've only slept like six or seven hours the past two days.
Been trading the Bitcoin chart could can't help myself. What do they say when that when the you
got to get get it while they're getting good or something like that? I don't know. Maybe that's
just a Midwest thing. But yeah, so I've been wrecked so many times, right?
This is not a declaration that I'm a good trader by any means.
But I just haven't seen this much strength in Bitcoin in a while.
And it's interesting.
Since I've been watching the chart be not so strong, at least on the small timeframes,
it's interesting because I'm able to view the upside momentum in like a different
perspective now, right? So yeah, without turning into a trader, a trader nerd or a quant today,
that's how I'm feeling, man. So if I'm, if I sound a little weird, it's because I'm starting
to get sick and got to go to bed tonight at a normal time for sure. But yeah, I'm excited to
get into kind of like
what's been helping us grow recently for the Web3 Matters account and kind of like what we've doing,
what we've been doing and kind of the, I don't even know if I want to call it a pivot, but
our numbers weren't doing the best and we made a conscious decision to do something different,
right? And so we'll, I'm sure we'll get into that,
but just like the little cliffhanger I'll give you guys is if something's not working, especially
if it's not working for X amount of time that's longer than a couple weeks or longer than a
couple months, like pivot, like the good spaces hosts, good creators, good entrepreneurs, good
startup founders,
the best thing that they can do is to pivot when things aren't working good.
And so later on, I'm sure we'll get into it, Trav and Tori, but that's my cliffhanger now.
We'll tell you guys how we pivoted and how you guys can pivot to start running your numbers up as well.
Absolutely love it. So first of all, that is a stellar
co-host technique
right there. You dangle a little carrot,
which is huge, and then you already
dropped some alpha.
Adapt or die. This is
kind of the crux of all growth
metrics here. So I appreciate you there, Kobe.
Definitely hope you get some good
sleep tonight, my friend. Also, I'd love
for this to turn into a trading space, but it's not. So we'll get into that soon. And I cannot freaking wait.
Let's get to know our guests today, guys. First off, we have a layer one X, which is unifying
blockchains and offers bridgeless interoperability. And all four of those words are kind of my
favorite crypto kind of Web three related words uh so
layer one x i'm super excited to get to know you i'm gonna pass the mic your way and why don't you
give us a little bit of an introduction uh yeah uh hashtag burn bridges baby burn bridges uh we
definitely don't like bridges uh this is Cody behind the account. By trade,
I am a UI UX designer. I've been doing spaces with ex-cohosts for a little over a year now.
And boy, oh boy, have we done spaces. I can't count how many spaces. It's in the hundreds, that's for sure. I've managed not only Layer 1X, but also the NextMoon project, Earnscape, Earn Network.
I think there's like two or three more in there. I can't remember.
But we're constantly doing spaces, so excited to be on here.
Give some flavor, that's for sure.
Cody, you had me at flavor. Pleasure to have you here. Let me ask you one quick question. here, give some flavor, that's for sure.
Cody, you had me at flavor. Pleasure to have you here. Let me ask you one quick question.
Since doing 100 plus spaces recently, how has that affected your growth? How has that affected your presence, your engagement, all those things? I imagine I know the answer, but I want to hear from you.
I'm a firm believer in spaces, have been and are constantly preaching it. Every project that I'm a part of, I've grown it over well over 300x in their growth.
thousand uh which was a little over 18 months ago and now uh we surpassed like 85 000 and a lot of
it is just due to the grind of just getting out there and doing spaces getting out there letting
people know who you are uh likewise uh with a lot of the other projects as well so yeah i'm a firm believer in what spaces can do
not only for your growth but because i have an acronym that i use called eat it helps you build
your expertise your authority and trust and transparency in the space because what you're
ultimately doing is you're adding a voice to the discussion of a lot of topics that need to be had
in web three space because without these type of discussions no change will ever come about
my goodness cody okay a couple of things i need to respond to first of all not only did you have
me at flavor uh but you had me at crap. Was it eat that you said?
Yeah, I'm not sure, but regardless, thoroughly impressed.
And there is a exhibit, a case study right there from hosting or from joining and hosting spaces for the past 15 to 18 months.
I think it was that you said you boosted the account from 15K followers to 80K plus followers.
Let's see, 82.8K followers which is incredible so quick little plug
here for ex-co-host if you want to make that that process even more seamless definitely check them
out and i'll leave it at that for now here next up we have got kwai and i'm sorry if i mispronounced
that is it kwai or quay i'm not quite sure you'll'll let me know. Quay Boss, who is community-driven on the Quay network.
I'm just going to go back and forth between Quay and Quay.
And yeah, pleasure to have you here, my friend.
Welcome.
No, you had it right the first time, actually.
It's Quay.
So yeah, Quay Boss.
Thanks for having me, Trap.
Yeah, I've been on a lot of these spaces.
Ex-co-host, shout out.
Yeah, I've been in the spaces for about five years,
plus on Clubhouse. So I think that's almost like almost six years now. So yeah yeah i've been in the spaces for about five years plus on clubhouse
so i think that's almost like almost six years now um so yeah i've been pushing out uh but yeah
i've been building other projects so quiet boss is fairly new building on quiet network um you
know utilizing ex-co so yeah big big fan you know last year ex-co host has really expanded operations
been able to just jump on spaces and prompt to
You know shadow King snitch also has been on a lot of these spaces. I've met him through these gaming spaces
So, you know familiar faces lyrics one
There one X as well, you know, I'm on your space as well
So you guys are grinding and it helps you know for anyone just like myself or anyone that's just like green and
Grassroots wants to just jump on any spaces spaces it really has helped kind of pave that way um and there's a lot of things we could do
also on my end because we have an app that can tip people so maybe me next goes to work on a tipping
uh functionality um which would be really cool for creators um yeah i think i don't know if there's
this specific question we're just saying who we are
is that what we're doing yeah for now we're just doing a question here uh excuse me wow let me
start that right over now it's a quick intro here then i'm going to kind of set the stage for what
everyone can expect for the space and i'm just going to dive right in here so quiet really
appreciate you my friend love the work that you're doing here as well you know tip function sounds
fascinating here.
So, yeah, look.
So go ahead.
Oh, I was going to say just a little bit.
That was just more on the Quine Network side.
So for us, we're, you know, we start as a meme project and then we're building a game called Flappy Boss.
So, you know, that's kind of like our go-to.
And then, you know, facilitating some, you know know aspects in the quine network ecosystem which is
fairly new which quine network does have their spaces as well so uh we're kind of just kind of
piggybacking on that and then we build our own ecosystem as well so uh fairly early we've been
building for about three months um uh the quine network ecosystem so uh yeah just i've been in
this space for a very long time but i just built built a project last three months. So we're here now.
Yeah, a true builder. Love to hear it. And that's kind of one of my favorite crypto narratives is, you know, someone's hanging out in the space Web3 for numerous years.
And all of a sudden they realize, you know what, I could be a builder, too. And builder doesn't necessarily have to. I'm tangenting. I'm going with it just for a few minutes. Bear with me. Run with you, Trav. These are bars. Love it. You don't necessarily have to actually build something on the blockchain.
You can host your own space.
And that's exactly what we're doing here today.
And if you want to be really good at hosting your own space, check out Xcohost.
Moving on.
Next cast, we have Adam Place.
Adam, really excited to get to know you, my friend.
Why don't you let us know who you are and what you're up to here.
I'm looking on your profile.
It says, you can't copyright your voice, but you can tokenize it please tell me more welcome to the space mike's all you are gm gm
gmgm mr mr mr kobe excellent good good to see you guys yes so. So this is Adam Place. I'm building Songjam. And what is Songjam,
you might ask? Well, as my man Trav beautifully set me up, Songjam is a system to
protect your voice in the age of AI. And we do this through an agentic CRM that's designed for X spaces.
We've just come off the back of a successful launch on the virtual's Genesis platform.
And just kind of by proxy, we've ended up becoming a leaderboard distributor. So yes,
we are now another evil Inf fi project too and we are
polluting your timeline with people that are shamelessly shilling your project but this is
actually an exciting new addition to the song jam suite so we offer leaderboard distribution
we crawl twitter and we also track yapping inside spaces oh yes yes, that's right. Inside spaces. So you can reward your yappers
when they yap about your project inside a space. Can you believe it? Already we're rolling this out
and the cherry on the top is the song jam DJ. And yes, you do not need to hear the generic Twitter
space music at the beginning. You can bring in the Song Jam DJ and you can play
whatever the hell you want. That's right. It's all happening here right now. Songjam.space.
Check it out. Let's hold the phone here. First of all, that alliteration, Adam,
was on a whole other planet. Nay, other galaxy so thank you for that uh secondly
we've got like a inception thing happening here with uh geez words words are not working right
now uh basically space between yaps in within spaces i'm getting i'm getting confused i'm
getting lost i've been waiting to hear king snooch now, your voice, for months. So I want to say a
quick hello to you. I want to send the mic your way, and you can do whatever the heck you want
with it. But real quick, Adam, place, love the energy, love the vibe. Really excited to have
you here. Pleasure, and we're going to be getting right into it very, very soon. King Snooch,
mic is yours. My brother, man. Trav, it's been a hot minute and i i use that word lightly
today because i'm literally drenched in sweat because our ac went out last night on the hottest
day of the year almost hitting triple digits today and i that's why i was a little bit late
here to the space i just finished getting the ac fixed so it's up and running now i don't know how
many hours it's going to take to get the temperature brought down in this house, but oh my God, I'm drenched in
sweat. So it's been a hot minute and definitely missing you brother. It's been a while. We need
to do this a little bit more often. A little bit about myself. I do Twitter spaces. I host
Twitter spaces. I am insanely ingrained in gaming in web3 and Web2, make my own magazine, and I am head of gaming for GenZo Media and absolutely huge supporter since day one of ex-cohost.
Tori, you're doing an amazing job. Don't ever stop. You're absolutely crushing it.
Love the team and love to hear what we got cooking on this. So Trav, take it away. Fill us in.
I'm satisfied.
Space is over.
I just needed to hear King Snooze talk.
And so did all of you, whether you knew it or not.
Now you know.
Now you know.
Guys, this has been an incredible space already.
We've only just gotten through the intros.
So let's get right into the actual topic at hand.
And this is, hold up, what makes a killer space topic?
So kind of looking into how I'm going to run this space here,
I want to get Adam back up here as well, by the way.
I would be remiss to miss out on that energy.
It's going to be a roundtable conversation.
So my hope is that everyone can kind of add their two cents.
I've got a list of stuff that I can share with you as well
after years of hosting spaces also. But this is not just about me. This is about all of you guys. So my goal for
this space and you guys let me know what you think here is do empower does not quite seem
substantial enough. Uh, it's, it's, it's something beyond empowerment. I want to, uh, just, just,
It's something beyond empowerment.
I want to just visualize that.
I want everyone to leave this space and basically be primed and ready to go to start naming their spaces with the most engaging, the most prolific, the most entertaining, the most inspiring, motivating titles.
That's just going to boost their listeners from six to 600.
And that's my goal.
That's my promise.
That's going to happen for each and every single one of you.
And we're going to have this as a roundtable conversation.
We're going to pass the mic around.
I want to know what has worked for every one of you guys.
I want to know what has not worked.
And I want to know your number one piece of alpha to deliver to our audience because they're awesome and you're awesome.
And together we can be awesome.
And we're all just going to crush it in this space.
Now, before we dive in, I just want to thank all of you guys for being here one more time.
We're almost at the alpha part of this space.
And I'm just going to please ask you guys if you can give this space a little bit of love here.
Give it a repost.
Give it a comment. Comment on a comment. Bookmark it. Like it. All the things. Let's make this space
absolutely explode here. So without further ado, I see your hand up there, King Snooch.
Mike is yours. Get us started with this awesome conversation.
Yeah. I'll kind of give you a positive and a negative on this. When you're thinking about
how you want to name your space, what do you want to speak about? What do you want to have a conversation about? You have to think, you know, what do I want to be remembered as, right? You want to think, do I want to be that clickbaity, shilly, you know, advertising type person who's, you know, just trying to get people in and then they don't get the value that they're expecting?
trying to get people in and then they don't get the value that they're expecting? Or do I want
to have a space where people see, hey, this is going to be a pretty exciting topic. I want to
learn about what this topic says and be the person who's going to run a space that talks about that
topic that keeps people engaged and it's a good conversation. So when you're thinking about that
topic, think about what do you want to talk about? What are you passionate about? What are you energetic about? What is the message that
you want to get across to people? And build your topic around that. Don't build around, you know,
what's the hottest thing? What's the newest topic? You know, what's viable right now? Don't try to
be a clickbait topic. Be a good conversation piece topic.
That would be my first bit of advice.
And not to like, I'm trying not to be the co-host here, like a host here, but I'm like ready to pass on my man over there in layer one.
But Cody, you got to wait your turn.
Trav's got to bring him in.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
King Snooch, you are always a co-host in my perspective.
You are always a host in my perspective.
So I'm going to give, I'm going to pass the mic right back to you and please do your thing.
Make it happen.
No worries.
No worries.
No worries.
Yeah.
I know Cody's been absolutely crushing it.
For those that don't know, he's been on so many different accounts.
It's kind of a little nostalgic.
Kind of remember, it reminds me of like me a year ago where I was just on so many accounts.
The guy's got that dog in him, and I got to give you credit, Cody.
I see your hands up.
What do you got?
Dude, I got to be honest.
You always click on my clickbait titles, so I know I can always count on you for being there.
But no, no, no.
It's all love, my friend.
Yeah, I agree with Snooch. You know, you got to have rhyme and reason behind your title.
And don't be afraid. Twitter, you got to look at the DNA of Twitter, right? Twitter is all about
being brass because you get so much content thrown at you very, very fast.
You got to stick out among the crowd.
So for an example, you know, like we did a title earlier today on Layer 1X, our roundtable
discussion was on wallet wars, why all wallets suck, right?
It is a little bit clickbaity, but on the flip side of that, we talked about the pain points and the security issues, the technology that's going into it, because there was all rhyme and reason around it.
And for us, for Layer 1X, I mean, like I said, we specialize in interoperability, not only from moving assets across chain bridge lists,
but we can also move data and logic. So your mind can start really cooking with that amount of
thing. And so like for me, I mean, when it comes to the titles, I always try to take like a trendy
title or something that I've picked up on spaces. on spaces, if you just listen to what people are talking and kind of read between the lines,
I get some of my very best titles and topics out of the spaces that I attend.
Okay.
This is awesome already here.
So I'm taking away a couple of things.
I just want to summarize real quick.
First of all, we already have a debate happening, clickbait versus non-clickbait. So I want to hear everyone's
opinion on that, yay or nay. Maybe I'll just share mine real quick here. So I have a firm
pause, pause, finish your thought, Travis, finish your thought. Don't tangent yet.
Finish your thought, Travis. Finish your thought. Don't tangent yet.
Right off the bat, clickbait, yay or nay. Second point, it doesn't really matter what your title
is as long as you can back it up with quality value being delivered. And I love that one,
King Snooch, because truly that's the ethos of all content creation, whether it's speaking on
spaces or whether it's actually written video content,
if you can deliver value, this is the number one ingredient,
if you will, for the success recipe.
And that is value first and foremost,
and that may be a little bit of a slower rise
in power and glory, but it is an inevitable rise
in power and glory. So back to an inevitable rise in power and glory.
So back to the tangent here, I want to hear everyone's opinion.
Are you for or against clickbait titles?
Let's hear it.
King Snooge, you're off mute.
I want to hear from you.
Yeah, I just got to say, so Cody, that topic of, you know, all wallets suck,
isn't exactly clickbait if you're going to talk about why wallets suck.
Exactly.
You're going to talk about what the title is.
That's not clickbait.
Exactly.
That's a good, clever topic, right?
When I say clickbait, what I'm talking about is, let's say I put a title in there about
dropping bombs from planes or something like that because people are talking about what's
going on in the world.
And then I just to get people in there and then I talk about a completely different topic.
That's clickbait, right?
That's the stuff that I don't like to see.
When people put a topic on their space that has absolutely nothing to do with what they're
going to actually talk about just to get people to click on it.
That's what I mean by clickbait.
What you did there with the all wallet suck when you're talking about wallets, that's a clever topic. And that's what
we should be doing every time. It's pushing the boundaries. Yes, totally agree with you on that
one. Perfect. So, solid point. And I'm glad we went there. We needed to define exactly what is
clickbait. So, clickbait in this context is not just a je ne sais quoi type title. It is something that is completely irrelevant to what
is being spoken about. And I think we could all agree that that just ethically is not the way to
go, nor is it really a longevity strategy. Basically, if someone's coming into your space with an expectation
of leaving that space with some insights or some alpha or value from what it is you have named
your space and then quickly realize that this isn't just not going to happen. They're going
to be out the door so fast and they're never going to return to your space again because
you've tarnished your impression. So awesome guys. Absolutely awesome here. So
let's keep the mic. Let's keep the mic going. I want to hear from you quiet. I want to hear from
you, Adam and Tori. I want to hear from you. And of course, Kobe, I want to hear from you guys.
I see no hands up. So you know what? I'm going to be that host and I'm just going to shove the
mic towards someone here. So Adam, I like your your energy you're getting the mic next what do you got so i think it was jj
abrams that uh preached the uh the the the the narrative device of the mystery box right and uh
for a while we loved it right we lapped up the force awakens
but you know then he gave us well you know the last jedi less said about that the better i mean
he wasn't directly responsible but he kind of set it up with the mystery box thing didn't he
and uh and then i can't even remember what the last one was called. And the less I think about it, the better, to be honest.
But what I would say, so I didn't mean to go into a Star Wars discussion now,
but what I would say is that I think the mystery box is a good,
I think you don't want to give people too much, right?
So I think that the idea of of just
putting putting something out there that can just kind of tantalize a an idea of a topic
i think certainly from my perspective i think the most successful space that i've ever hosted
was simply called it's time for a new narrative.
And it was just, it just kind of just took off, you know, it just, and I think people joined because they saw the topic and they thought,
what the hell is that? And, and just jumped in. And yeah, I mean,
you can probably find it actually,
I don't even recommend digging through my timeline to try and dig it out.
It's there's just too much stuff there, but maybe I'll tag it.
Maybe I'll post it up on the Jumbotron and you guys can check it out.
But it was a, it was a super cool space.
And I think it,
it worked because it wasn't too explicit with the title and it just,
it was just something that I, I wanted to cover. And, and, and,
and that's what I think worked really nicely.
Adam, I love that.
You've just made it broad enough and you posed a question that is relevant to all people in CryptoX.
And that brings up a really good point, the idea of how broad or how niche do you go?
And from my experience, you're absolutely right.
You want to keep it broad enough to invite more people in.
And if you ask these engaging questions, especially if it's timed right, which leads us to another point, how do you know what's a hot topic and when?
you know, when we'll get to that, and I'll make sure of it. You can you can basically have this,
You know, we'll get to that and I'll make sure of it.
this space creation, delicacy, where all the ingredients just hit at the exact same time,
the exact same place. And it's just going to be a beautiful piece of magic. So solid point,
tore your hands right up. Let's send the mic over to you. Also, thank you so much for that last
point that I shared. That was all you I appreciate you. Oh, good. Yeah, I really love this point,
Adam, because when we have conversations, usually when people are coming in to ex-co-hosts and
they're trying to figure out what their title should be, we usually tell them to plan them out,
and a lot of people, I'll be honest, a lot of people will use chat. And that's okay. But you kind of want to go for
a broader narrative, especially when you're first starting. I think this is something that gets lost
on new hosts is they're looking at titles that are live on X and they're seeing, you know, seasoned hosts get tons of speakers and tons
of listeners and their titles are very niche and they're very, you know, kind of vague and they
think that that's going to work, but they don't realize where they came from. 90% of hosts when
they're first starting don't have a following like we just heard from layer one
like it's there's a build-up right and there's a really good point that people just kind of look
over is you have to cast a wider net in the beginning and it's for two reasons you need to
attract speakers especially if you're using x co-host right or even if you're just hosting
spaces and hoping people raise their hand and jump try to up on stage is a little risky, but people still do it. But trying to attract speakers,
the speakers need to feel like this isn't so niche that they are not going to be an expert
on it and they get imposter syndrome. We see all the time some speakers are afraid to
jump on because they
feel like they're not going to have enough points that the other people on the panel must be, you
know, more knowledgeable than they are and they don't want to look stupid. And so you have to go
a little bit broad. There's another point in here I want to touch on is X Coast gives you the option
to put a description. So if you're afraid your title is a little too
vague, you can put in the description and give people a little bit more comfort knowing that
they can join the space as a speaker. And then there's the other side of it, which is capturing
audience, right? So there's this delicate dance and this balance that you have to find with your
titles, which you have to cast the wider net to grab the speakers, but you need to explain what you're talking about still in the title enough to
capture the audience. So every time you go to set a space title, ask yourself those two questions.
Is this going to grab the speakers that I want to attract? And is this going to get the audience
that I want to listen that are going to stay for the conversation. Never bait and switch, like Snooch
said. But it is okay to, you know, cast that wider net in the beginning. But don't leave it too vague
and just leave it as like a series. You know, if you're just saying like, this week, you know,
like we do our town halls, sometimes nobody really knows what that is. But the people on
X co hosts are know that we're talking about, you know, our alpha and our our feature rollouts.
But when we do spaces like this, we want to be very specific. So that's my those are my points.
But yeah, love love what you said, Adam. I think that's super, super important.
Absolutely solid point. Honestly, Tori, I feel like we could have an entire space dedicated to the idea of hosts and imposter syndrome. And I think we should call it good enough.
We will. We will actually.
Perfect.
Yeah, let's do it.
is huge, which is another topic that we can discuss in length when it comes to hosting spaces.
But again, I digress. Quick aside here that I absolutely want to get to you here, Cody,
because I saw your hand shoot right up, is I just wanted to quickly mention here,
one of the most empowering things from the initiation of my journey with ex-co-host was the assistance with spaces names
and still to this day some of my most um well-performing spaces were from spaces that were
that i received that feedback from the uh the ex-co-host team on exactly what to name it. I'd come up with a general idea of what
I wanted to talk about. And they'd be like, okay, here are three different options that are for sure
going to hit. Now you choose which one and just F around and find out. And I certainly did find
out and it was absolutely magic. So just a pure testament to how important and how powerful
the idea of really naming your space right. Because honestly, if speaking, if your hosts,
if your guests are, you know, if they know what they're doing, if they're well spoken,
and if they have the alpha prepared and ready to deliver, all you have to do is get people
in through the door.
And the effect from doing that is absolutely exponential here. And that is what the title will do for you. So Cody, Layer 1X, Mike is yours. I've been speaking long enough.
Let me know what you have to say. No, you're all good. I think it's imperative that the hosts talk about subjects that they know something about. I've been on so many different spaces where hosts, I don't know if it's because they're hosting on behalf of a brand or a project, or if they're just trying to expand the topic so that they're not talking about three set, you know, topics every few
weeks type of thing.
But it's, you can really tell when a host doesn't know how to engage in the conversation
because when the conversation starts going a different direction or a different way that
it wasn't really intended for, it's hard for a host to reel that back in and listeners can
really tell that the conversation is getting a little out of control. Right. And so I think,
you know, for new space people, it's paramount to talk about the subjects that you know about.
If not, bring in a subject matter expert as a guest. I do that a lot of
times. You know, one thing that we're working on over at Layer 1X is quantum resistant security.
I don't know what the crap all that has to do. I know it's cubics and those kind of things,
and they're awesome, and they can like solve seed phrases in a matter of seconds rather than 100 years.
But, you know, on the flip side of that, I'm not strong enough.
And I've been reading our white papers and doing all this kind of stuff.
And I'm getting stronger and stronger.
But I think that that's a fupar that a lot of hosts do out of the gate.
And like Tori was saying, you know, a host, no matter the subject,
a host needs to know how to do that dance to kind of keep people engaged. Because let's be honest,
there's the high points, and then there's the low points. And you need to know how to fill that. And
you need to know how to pivot. And if you don't know the subject, you don't know how to pivot
and control the conversation, you're going to lose your audience anyways. It could be the best. What was
Tenacious D, the best song ever made or whatever, right? It could be that thing and no one would
ever pay attention to it because the host couldn't even keep it under control, right? So there's that. And the other thing is just to create a safe environment
for people to participate.
You know, the imposter syndrome is one thing,
but just having a safe space where there are bullies out there
that like to control the conversation
and really like tell people they suck
and that their point that they're trying to make is, is not good. So I
always tell my people like, Hey, it's okay to be different. I have to tell Snooch this all the
time. It's okay to be the opposite person against the trend of where the conversation's going. It's
a safe space. And so no, it's, it's all love. I love it when Snooch comes on and gives me that
narrative of a completely opposite thing because that's where
the real magic happens oh my goodness okay okay let's touch on that for a quick second here
i think snooch is the the the best the highest achieving contrarian out here in the space
and just that alone uh again we're getting way off topic here but we'll come back we'll reel it
in here in a quick second i just this is this is too important to pass on because this is a secret weapon when it comes to growing your spaces.
The idea of not just having everyone agreeing to everything all the time and having a bit of debate, having a bit of drama, having a bit of a back and forth.
King Snooch is the man when it comes to this. We've had so many spaces where we were basically just narrating not even a script, but everyone's just on the same page. Everyone's so hunky-dory. Everything's great. All the alpha's flowing, which is good. People are going to receive the alpha that we intend to deliver.
King Snooch is the man when it comes to this.
But it's just that much more entertaining when a guy like King Snooch shows up to your space and just like, OK, I hear what you're saying, but you're wrong.
And here's why it just it makes the space that much more intriguing, makes it more engaging. And people want to stick around and actually listen to that because now all of a sudden there's some spice uh so king snooch i gotta give you that second here to respond to that
what's your secret sauce how do you do it i love you guys honestly i this is this is what i'll say
is i don't conform to the norm and i have my feelings and i have my beliefs and I stick true to them.
So like the way that I look at Web3 Gaming is typically different than the way other people look at Web3 Gaming.
The way that I look at, you know, the financials of Web3 sometimes is different than other people.
I don't conform to the topic just to, you know, sound like everybody else. I stay true to
who I am. And that's one thing that like, I would say for everybody, that's going to be a host
or a co-host or a speaker in spaces, be true to yourself. Don't change just to be popular,
stay true to who you are and people will respect you for that. And like, when I get into these
topics and we're talking about, oh, play to earn, you know, and I say everybody's like raving about, oh, play to earn.
This is great. This game is going to make so much money.
And then I step in and I'm like, dude, play to earn is dead.
It has no long term.
Those topics, I put my belief out there.
Now, I don't say, you know, if you don't believe what I believe, you're wrong.
I just put my opinion out there and I say this is how I feel.
And I think as long as you stay true to that and you stay true to yourself,
it's all good. I love it, my friend. So I'm about to push back in a quick moment, but before I do, I just want to take a moment and reset the room here, guys. We are talking
about what makes a killer space topic, and we've covered a lot of stuff already. We've covered the
idea of making sure
that there's some element of relevance to what you're actually talking about. No clickbait.
That's ridiculous. We've spoken about, you know, make it so it's not super, super niche,
make it general enough so that it's going to invite more people. And then we've also spoken
about actually being able to deliver on the topic. You know, we want to make sure sure that then this is exactly what we're speaking about now where we're making
sure that once we get people through the door are they gonna stick around and I
think that's that's just as important as talking about how to actually make a
killer space to a name topic as it is to you know or just to like bring the
whole conversation together and actually make it work for you.
So I really appreciate that this is where we're going now.
Now, King Snooch here, do you remember the time that you joined one of our spaces?
I don't even remember what the topic was, but you explicitly mentioned that what you were saying was not even your opinion.
As a matter of fact, you said it was the complete opposite of your opinion, but you're going to present a counter argument anyways.
Please respond.
I hated that space.
I'm just going to go ahead and say it.
I had to pretend that I believed in something else.
It was entertaining.
I will give it credit.
It was entertaining.
And I was required to have a different opinion than mine.
As entertaining as it was,
I kind of went with it
because out of respect for the host,
he did ask to put me on a team
to debate a topic that I did not like.
It was all about KOLs.
I believe that's the one you're talking about.
Yes, it was KOL.
Oh, God.
It was very...
I don't even know the word. I want to say entertaining, but it was entertaining for everybody else. But at the same time, I was like, oh, my God. Why am I spilling this nonsense that I don't believe in?
You're sweating like a sinner in church. Is that what you're trying to say? It was so bad. It was, yeah, it was bad. But anyway, it was entertaining.
And I did explicitly say, you know, despite the fact that I have to argue this point, this is not my belief.
Let me just shout out to you real quick there, King Snooch.
The level of sacrifice, the level of pain and agony that you went through to deliver said contrarian view was freaking spectacular.
And I love you even more for it.
Kwai, we haven't heard from you in a little bit here.
We definitely want to make sure each and every one of our panelists has a fair opportunity to share their opinions.
Can you give us your top alpha when it comes to what makes a killer space topic, whether it's from your own experience,
whether it's what's not worked for you, let us know.
Let us into your mind, your brilliant, brilliant mind.
Yeah, thanks.
I wanna start with kind of like specific content.
Like you guys mentioned in Echo,
and what was said that when it comes to anything
that's like very specific, it requires a set demographic now so you might not have the specific type of people that
you want and they might not even go on the space to speak yeah and that's the
issue I've had previously was like you know the specific content if it was like
you know this ecosystem or if it was more Web3 eccentric content,
it requires a certain type of people that are interested in those topics.
So yes, those didn't reach, I'd say probably under 100 people
that attended spaces, probably like maybe three or four people speaking.
The biggest spaces I've had recently were
one i turned off the recording function so it gives people kind of a comfortability i notice
and then also um having a kind of open discussion i had the the chill and chill spaces i have for my
boss talk which actually did very well we had 176 people on there who had like about 20 speakers.
And it did very well.
So I feel like having kind of the low hanging fruit,
people could just go in there and then you just question them.
You know, they show their projects or what they're doing,
but then you question like what they do.
And you can find some really good gems, you know, and people.
So I found a lot of good people in the space doing that uh this last week or so especially last week
um i met some some pretty cool people to work with um impromptu like giveaways and stuff like that so
kind of trying to see how that works out um going forward um but yeah i feel like you know kind of go full circle with
you guys saying about like um you know i guess clickbaity content um yeah i feel like yeah i
mean if the title is relevant to somewhat the content includes i think it's i think it's viable
but you know like it has to be like probably like you know 30 40 percent you know
what i mean like if it's like 10 and it's like it's like very conflicting to that material like
not consistent at all then yeah i mean you're gonna be like kind of pointing people in the
wrong direction so i think having some consistency in that sense of what content you're coming out
it could be clickbaity i have my shill and chill spaces and, you know,
it's kind of open discussion rather than just specific, but, you know,
we could just dive into it.
And like King Snooch's, you know, contrary kind of dynamic,
which is really important.
It was good to have that engagement.
And also, you know,
we don't have a bunch of yes man saying everything is correct.
I think that's most important that we're not having everyone just agree to those terms we had a discussion yesterday with genzio
about that when it comes to having content on ai you know chat gpt agreeing to everything you
you know that you're stating so you want to have that kind of you know contrary dynamic and have
you know the ability to kind of bounce ideas rather than having that one, you know, straight decision making.
Yes, this is what we agree to.
I want people to be, you know, effective, you know, whatever they have something negatively
to say or some type of feedback.
I'd rather have that than being, okay, I'm, you know, perfect or whatever, you know, I
want to blow smoke up my ass in that sense.
So, yeah.
So I do agree in that aspect. And yeah, I do appreciate the topics you guys came up with.
where are we at guys?
Where are we at?
So we only have about nine minutes left of this space.
We haven't heard from Kobe in a while.
So I definitely have to pass the mic over to you real quick.
I also saw King Snooch's hand jump up,
but then I've also been told that we,
sorry,
go ahead.
I was going to say,
you can let Snooch go first.
And cause I'm going to say something different.
So yeah,
go ahead.
I love it.
I love it real quick though. Before, before I pass the mic over, apparently we've got some, some phantom speakers
who I cannot see up here on our panel here, but apparently we've got classic crypto and
Creon.
So I'm going to, I'm going to get to you guys here in a second to see if it actually works
for you.
But until then, King Snooch, enlighten us.
Yeah.
You were talking about like the alpha for like the best topic.
And you did kind of touch on it a little bit earlier.
But I would say when you're trying to get that great topic for your space, think about what conversation you want to have.
Try to envision in your head, you know, what you want, which direction do you want that conversation to go?
What do you want to talk about?
And when you have that vision in your head, then come up with a clever way of like putting a little teaser about
what that topic is going to be. Then you make that topic, right? And then you reach out to
your friends and you say, hey, I'm going to have this space. We're going to talk about blah, blah,
blah. Here's the topic. Is this something you guys would be interested in joining? And if they can
see what the topic is, and it gives them a
taste of what the conversation is going to be, they're more apt to actually jump into the spaces
that you host, as opposed to if you have a very general conversation, right, but the topic is very,
very specific. Sometimes, like you were talking about, people don't want to be overwhelmed with a very high tech space. So if you keep that topic kind of a little vague, but hinting towards what the top,
the conversation is going towards, it gives people a better idea of what you want them to talk about.
And if you get very specific, people may look at it and be like, I really don't know about
that part of it. I can talk about this, but i really don't know about that part of it i
can talk about this but i don't really know about that so i'm going to pass on this space keep that
in mind when you're when you're making your topics that's a whole dynamic i hadn't even considered
i've always well for the most part when naming a space i've only really done it with the intention
of trying to get more audience members in but when you're trying to actually get more people to join a discussion, yeah, you absolutely have to make it appeal to
the speakers as well. Make it something that a lot of people are going to be very interested to talk
about. Again, that alpha, just not only the presence, the energy, the contrarian views,
but the alpha king snooch is always on point beyond grateful beyond grateful
uh layer 1x i did see your hand go up um but i do need to check in with kobe here real quick
because it's been a while and we're running out of time here so kobe please take it away
yeah man thanks for uh passing me the mic i just wanted to say like on the topic that we were
talking about earlier about like niche versus broad i almost jumped off mute and went full king snooch on the whole room um on on
but then i was like okay oh we'll just drop my phone um then i was like all right like let's
hear some folks out and actually my perspective did change a little bit um you know just like a
personal like rule of thumb or like a motto that I have is like
more niche is better for like initial growth in general. Niche down, then niche down again.
That's like the motto. I'm not the first one to say that. Right. But I had to stop. I pumped
the brakes a little bit and like I realized, oh, this is not a blanket statement for everything
content related. It's more of a broader thing for like, how does someone find their footing and like,
what, what do they want to talk about regularly?
Or how does someone develop a personal brand?
Well, niche down, then niche down again is usually good.
However, on the contrary, um, standalone titles versus content branding, totally different
conversation.
So perhaps, and then like the last point I'll make is that we at Web3 Matters have found some recent success
with our live streams, which we've been doing kind of these like vibe coding sessions, right?
We're basically building a startup in public about as public as you can do it. In so much
is that currently we're not even working on the build
when we're not live streaming. So only working on the build when we're live streaming. Now,
this is like a two-part thing. It doesn't get much more niche than that.
However, it is also a trending topic, right? Vibe coding is trending. So are we finding success
because it's trending or are we finding success because we've niched down
and then we niched down again, right? With like Web3 is our initial niche and then niching down
to like building and then even niching further down and like building in public, like super
public. So it's hard to say. And again, it's like back to like gathering data, you can't really make a solid decision on a small data set, right?
I know Trav's a big data guy.
I'm actually becoming much more of a data guy thanks to him.
And I'm realizing that just because you have one good stream doesn't mean your title is good.
was good or one one good space doesn't automatically mean your title was good but if you if you try to
Or one good space doesn't automatically mean your title is good.
recreate that same like formula in that title over 50 spaces then you can really say whether a title
is good or not um of course we don't all have 50 spaces that we can you know we don't have that
much time but anyways the point is my initial take that I was going to make is wrong. And so thanks for providing a good perspective on this like broader title to catch people, to like get people in the door.
And then you can niche down actually in that space itself if you want to.
As long as it's related to the title, you're still not doing a disservice.
So, Snooch, I'll pass it over to you, my friend, so we can close it out here shortly.
Yeah, absolutely.
Appreciate you, Tori, for having us on.
100% agree with what you were saying.
You can niche down, but still talk about like, don't say like specifically, I don't understand
vibe coding at all whatsoever, but don't specifically put in the title, we are going
to vibe code just landscaping three rocks.
but just landscaping three rocks. Like that's just too specific, right? You're not going to get,
Like that's just too specific, right?
you know, 400, 500 people that want to listen about how to build a rock in vibe coding.
But if you put in there, hey, we're vibe coding how to build things, or hey, we're vibe coding how
to build landscape, it's still broad enough, but very niche. And I think that's where the balance
is, right? You want to
be niche to the point where you're specific about what you're going to talk about, but broad enough
that multiple people in that sector can talk on the topic, right? You don't want to make it too
specific, but you want to generalize. It's like a fine balance, right? Talk about what it is,
but you want to generalize.
It's like a fine balance, right?
Talk about what it is,
but leave it vague enough for open discussion
about that topic.
So absolutely love it.
Oh my God, that's such a bar, Snooch.
So I'm thinking about it from like,
or at least before I kind of opened my mind
in terms of like, you know,
I write a newsletter, right?
So like in terms of that,
that's like a one-sided communication,
whereas a space, it's like a, you know, it's
obvious, it's like a group activity, right? And so I don't, I need to also consider, or anybody
creating spaces needs to consider, like somebody said it earlier, or maybe it was you, to get
people to speak on a topic. You don't want to pigeonhole them out. It's not just about getting
the listeners. That's huge. I just got chills thank you so much for for opening
my eyes on this man i love it this i'm taking away so much i've been writing notes as i usually do
when i host spaces and uh i have the pages full the pages can i add something onto that yeah be
i would be insulted if you did not no no, no, no. I totally agree with you guys.
However, one thing that we didn't talk too much about is like we've talked about niche, niche, niche, but we didn't talk about how to construct your questions.
Right. This is my own internal thing. And King Snooch knows exactly this because he's been on so many of my spaces.
But how I engage if the topic is worthwhile and was successful is if I can do a whole hour AMA on one question.
And my average is 1.5 questions.
I just had one last week that went to three questions in an hour.
And for me, for my UX, UI design side, I use a lot of psychology models and I use a lot
of data.
And so for me, psychology and if you use like psychology models, various psychology models, and NLP to enhance the topics by leveraging questions that
drive curiosity, emotional resonance, and subconscious kind of engagement through open-ended
questions. It leads to deep rabbit hole discussions. And Snooch knows how many times I say that as to
how many times I want to go down a deep rabbit hole type of discussion, right? dialogue or the topic at hand. And it takes those horse blinders off and allows people to actually
look up from their phone in a sense and see that there's a green world around them more so than
just a screen, right? And to have people click out of their normal ways of processing things
to look at it from a new angle, it's a brand new world. I mean, you could be talking about something,
you talk nine times out of 10 each and every single day,
but you give somebody a new perspective
and they can talk about it in so many different ways
and so many different times now.
And so for me, that's how I really engage my stuff
is if I can get it down to one,
maybe two questions for the whole hour, then I know that my title and my content rocked.
Cody, I just want to give you a shout out on this.
And a part of the reason why that works for you is because when you have a conversation or you have a topic, and let's say you want to talk about 2 plus 2, right?
You don't put it forward as, hey, let's go talk about two plus two, because honestly, how many people can talk about, how many different conversations can you have about two plus two?
But when you word it like, hey, let's talk about math and the different ways that math works,
now it opens up for more conversations about two plus two, right? Or you just talk about,
generalize, hey, math is awesome. You open the floor up for more conversations to grow naturally
and generically about the topic you want to speak about. And that's one thing that you're
absolutely amazing about. So hat tip to you, brother. I mean, it was Aristotle who said
two plus two is definitely seven. So to be able to have the opportunity to shill some Aristotle
in a space here, I think would make my absolute day.
Cody, King Snooch, your back and forths.
You can write volumes of PDFs because books aren't a thing anymore.
And people without that shit would sell.
Apologies, I could not help myself, but swear.
I usually don't like to do that.
I digress.
Guys, we are officially over the hour mark.
I'm not sure
what everyone's timing is looking like. I'm okay to keep going for a few minutes here so we can get
our final speakers in. I want to hear from everyone. And then I ended off, I want to have
a power hour of alpha and just send the mic around the room to everyone. And I want to hear your one
most important tip when it comes to making a killer space topic. So real. And I want to hear your one most important tip when it comes
to making a killer space topic. So real quick, I want to check in with our host, ex co-host,
and of course, Tori here. How are we looking for time? Do you have a few more minutes?
I'm good, guys. If we want to keep going, I love when the conversation's flowing. And
I know Creon and JB took a minute to get up here. I don't know if there was like a little glitch going on, though.
We didn't even see you guys in the audience.
Yeah, I'm good.
If everybody else is good, throw a thumbs up.
We'll go for a couple more minutes.
Let's do it.
Awesome.
Always fumbling with the buttons here.
It's ridiculous.
Also, Elon, why you got a rug is like that?
Come on.
Come on.
Awesome.
Creon, I feel like we've spoken before.
Your name looks incredibly familiar, but unfortunately, I'm terrible with faces and names.
So I'm going to send you the mic if you are ready.
And please add your perspective, add your insight.
My ears are open.
Oh, yes, sir.
GM, everybody.
Certainly because I changed my PFP, I think, a ago, and then I stopped running spaces for a while.
Absolutely, it's a cool space, but I wouldn't apologize for being late.
I got caught up in another space.
Yeah, happy to be here.
Actually, I can relate to what Kingston was saying and Layer 1X or Cody.
These are actually my north star or like uh like
my guide when it comes to like running spaces i look up to these people and um that's why i kind
of like get their um like their style when it comes to like um putting up um space although
i run differently um but also i want to add that you know i what i don't want to add that I want to make sure that my titles are open to everybody as well and kind of like challenging people's interests and their thoughts.
Like an example, it doesn't have to be very technical, but an example is like, are we funding innovators or just people playing fafo something
like that so it is something that a lot of people would would like to like speak out their minds to
you know um even though they want to speak i mean even though they're shy on talking um
on the stage but they would probably like join in the conversation and then drop some comments in there.
I consider myself a small account.
I only have like 2,000, 2.5K,
but I'm happy when I get like 200 to 400 to 500. And sometimes I get that fire icon on my space when it's running.
That means it's on a hot topic.
So I get to experience that sometimes because of these kind of like titles.
And yeah, this is what I wanted to add.
Maybe I can follow up later.
Thank you, everybody.
Okay, so that's two things I'm learning now.
One, spaces have music to start.
And then two, there's emojis that you get if you're trending, if you're on fire.
This is, man, I've literally haven't hosted a space for what a couple weeks
now because we've been doing uh live streams now kobe but uh we're missing out man we're missing
out we're gonna have to get back into the game because uh things have changed in a really serious
way awesome thank you so much krean sorry uh was that you kobe who went off mute please i i apologize
well no i was just gonna make a i was just gonna give you a jab at least at least uh the the rest
of the web 3 matters team knows about those things.
So you just – we'll do our job.
You do your job.
We've got our departments, right?
So you're the talent department, and I'm tech support.
I'm just going to sit here and be pretty.
I'm terrible at it, but I'm going to do it anyways.
We appreciate you, man.
Awesome.
J.B., the man, the myth, the legends.
I've definitely heard you speak before.
And just let me do that here real quick.
JB, please take the mic and serenade us with your voice.
Jeez.
I'm not sure how to move into that.
I like how you set the stage there for me.
More nice and high, my friend. More nice and high now leap.
And yeah, I think what folks have already said is really good. I like the idea of maybe
niching it up nicely. I did have a question about the music thing afterwards, because you said
something about music now is played in spaces, but I'll get to that at the end. There's a little
question. But yeah, I like the idea of like going into niches and try
to get it as, as, as focused as possible.
And sometimes like the general side of things just, I think gets conversation.
It can go a little bit all over the place.
So it's, it's probably not the best thing, but I think for hosts, and if you're, if you're
really trying to have like, not like a brain numbing conversation and, and if you're really trying to have like not like a brain numbing conversation,
and what you're going to try to have to do is like have a conversation with folks or talk about a
subject that you're not convinced about, right? It's like I think if you're trying to have a
conversation where you're already convinced of the answer, you might have like a, you might have a
bias or, I mean, it's
okay to have a little bit of a bias, right? Because if you're maybe a little bit more for one thing,
but you're still, you still want to hear about all the other things on the other side, that's fair.
Because like no, no situation, no, no amount of like, like best case, best example I like to give
is like for veganism, right? Like I went full vegan for like three months. So I did like hardcore. I did even like the all meat diet for three months to hardcore because I wanted to see what it's all about, right? Like I'm either going to do it like to the max or not. But what's funny is that like on either side, more so for the vegan one, there's like, like Nobel winning doctors and scientists and researchers on either side,
right? Like some are saying, no, you, you know, meat is very good. Like, of course the process
stuff isn't the best to have. Um, and then on the other side, you've got the vegan same, like,
you know, back at the, you know, these historical analyses or whatever saying like, you know,
you should go vegan. It's better for you. Population groups, they do similar kind of
research even like on population groups, they do similar kind of research even like
on population groups, but they find different answers, right? So for a lot of things, like you
really just got to hear things out and, you know, pick your own, pick your own lane. But I think
that people make a huge mistake when they think that they know based on they read one researcher,
they read one book by one, two, three scientists, and then they think they know
it. They read an article on the news. I see this problem all the time. Like I work in defense as
well and up in Canada. And we see this all the time. People will read like, you know, even people
that are trained, they'll read like one article and like that forms their belief of like what's
going on in the region or what happened that day. When really it's like you have no idea what's going
on. Like you've only just scratched the surface. And so if it can happen at the level of veganism,
right, like huge bodies of work on either side, like these are titans on either side.
Trust me, you don't know about the topic. You might have some thoughts. You might have some
strong thoughts. But so yeah, so always leaving it open so that everybody can kind
of give their opinion and their, their, you know, their stuff, I think it's going to lead to the
best conversations and, and, you know, I think a lot of cool new things might even like appear from
that, that people haven't thought of on either side. So yeah i think that's kind of like a a strategy i'm
trying to to to pursue if i can um with with topics right for for spaces and and discussions
and stuff and then he asked and yes like so you can play music through spaces now like without
having to have a uh steam deck or or whatever that that's news to me i i didn't i didn't know
that was possible. So anyways.
JB, JB, okay.
I'm going to respond to that in a quick second here.
But what I'm taking away from your point real quick,
leveraging confirmation bias.
Freaking spectacular.
Also fellow Canadian right here.
Are you Eastern or Western or Central Canada?
Real quick.
Now Eastern, yeah.
Quebec.
Quebec. Mon ami. Excellent. I'm West. I Eastern, yeah, Quebec. Quebec.
Mon ami, excellent.
I'm West, I'm BC.
Digressing once again,
you guys are going to have to deal with it.
Yeah, pleasure to have a Canadian brother up here,
my friend.
Thank you so much.
And awesome insights.
You know, really, I'm envisioning in my head,
you know, planting a seed, a very one-sided title when it comes to a topic and just pulling in both sides of the opinion
continuum or the spectrum, if you will, and just opening the floodgates, let them duke it out,
and yeah, just see what happens. I love that. I absolutely love that. And I love where this
conversation is going so far here as well, guys. We've covered a lot of stuff. We've gone on a journey together.
We've covered, you know, what makes a good space topic in terms of, you know,
how broad or general or niche do you go?
When is a good time to go niche? When is a good time to keep it general?
You know,
we've spoken about tactics on how to actually get people through the door and
what to do with them once you get them through the door.
And plus, we got to hear everybody's lovely, lovely voice here.
We're just about to wrap it up, friends.
And so what I'd like to propose to end off this space is I want to pass the mic around
every single one of the legends up here.
And I want a 30-second take on your single best piece of advice
when it comes to our spaces, making a killer spaces topic.
So I'm just going to go in order of who I see,
and then we're going to wrap it up here.
So, Kobe, I'm going to save you to the end,
because of course, you're a co-host,
so we always wait to the end.
So first, I'm seeing Kwai Boss.
So Kwai, please take it away.
What's your 30- second best top piece of alpha
when it comes to creating a killer space topic?
Yo, be sure to make a space
that everybody can come through
and talk about real things, incentivize,
talk about Web3, hopefully, that you make...
That's all I didn't say.
Whoa, okay.
Whoa. I'm in shock kobe i know you need to respond to that real quick i'm just i just can't believe that just happened that was freaking
spectacular kobe how are you reacting to that yo i'm dead he threw me off there okay dude's in the
booth um dude's in the booth right now. It brought us in the booth with him.
Unironically, I'm also in a booth, except I'm at a public library in a soundproof.
Well, not so soundproof, probably booth.
But, yeah, so now we got two dudes in the booth for two different reasons.
Let's go.
It's not even Friday, which that's when we host our normal space.
By the way, shameless plug, 11 a.m. Central, 12 p.m. Eastern time, every single Friday, Web3 Matters. But I'm going to... Adam, I followed you.
Okay, cool. You follow me back. So the reason that Trav probably called on me, so I've been
a music producer for 10 years. It kind of hit the pause button or reset about six months ago
in terms of like trying to actually
like do something business wise with it. And so now that I've like turned it into a hobby,
it's like so much better, but anyway, so I'm curious, Adam, to learn more about what you
guys are doing. And so, yeah, I'm going to shoot you a DM. Let's see. I'm going to do it on my
personal account, but yeah, man, this, this, this, uh, I'm, I'm intrigued. I'm going to do it on my personal account, but yeah, man, I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued, to say the least.
So yeah, I guess while I have the mic, my piece of advice that I got today was two sides.
So first off, open your perspective. Don't think that you know the thing.
Don't think that you know the thing based on one or two pieces of
research. And furthermore, you might do a bunch of research, but nothing beats actually getting
your hands dirty and collecting your own data. Like that example I said earlier about the 50
space titles ideas. Most traditional marketers would probably even say that's not even enough.
Like, you know, most traditional marketers would probably even say that's not even enough, you know.
And so not only don't think you know, don't assume, but go ahead and get your hands dirty, get started.
You know, it's a corny, super corny line, but the secret to success is getting started.
And so you can't have a killer space if you don't have a shitty space.
If you don't have a shitty space, excuse my language, you have to go through the fire in order to find and realize the importance of title, copywriting of all those things.
Excuse my language.
But you won't really understand it until you actually start getting your feet wet.
So that's my advice to everybody in the audience and killer, killer panel.
Killer panel, a lot of bright minds today.
A lot of bright minds today.
Super, super excited and excited to,
or can't wait to be back here with web,
with ex-co-host and Tori as well in the future.
So thanks guys, appreciate you.
Spicy hot, my friend.
Thank you for that.
I think that's a really important point
is honestly just get started and just adapt
and keep experimenting.
And then all of a sudden, you know, if you are persistent and if you are adaptable, you'll get there.
That's a promise.
Here we go.
Adam Place, 30 seconds take for the top possible piece of advice when it comes to making a killer space topic.
Yeah, so I think I already unloaded the alpha earlier, but what I would say is you cannot have a killer space without killer speakers.
And you've really got to put the time in or you've really got to invite the killer people.
And sometimes the killer people don't show up because they're so good that they're not around and they might forget.
They might go somewhere else and
and so invite more right but killer speakers make a killer space and if you've got a killer topic
killer killer speakers will come so do it and and yes uh kobe i'd love for you to try to DJ
and everyone to try the song jam DJ and and Jay i hear you. So please, yeah, hit me in the DMs and we'll make it happen.
We'll bring the music and the magic to your space.
So real quick, the irony of what you just said there, Adam,
is you, my friend, are indeed that exact precise killer speaker.
So just, yes, thank you.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you for bringing the energy. Thank you for bringing the energy.
Thank you for bringing the vibe. I got a smile from ear to ear. Layer 1X, we have got Cody behind
the mic. The mic is yours. I want to hear your take. 30 seconds of your top advice when it comes
to creating a killer space topic. Please go ahead. Just like Kobe said, it's all about data, data,
Just like Kobe said, it's all about data, data, data.
65 to 68 characters max is going to be your sweet spot for creating titles.
Obviously, you can go clear up to 100 characters, but don't do it.
Don't do it.
Keep it at 65.
That's one thing.
The other thing is preparation.
Prep, prep, prep.
But don't get too dialed in to
the point where you're scripted. Nobody likes scripted, especially on roundtable discussions.
Be flexible and also have an end game. What happened before the space, what happens after
the space is key to your success. Follow up, follow up, follow up, follow up is key to your success. Follow-up, follow-up, follow-up, follow-up is key. And most importantly, like what we do over at The Next Moon,
if you look down in the listeners, they're listening in.
It's the bull with the moon behind it.
The Next Moon Project is all about finding and discovering projects
and having fun learning about those projects.
And that's what it's all about is just getting out there,
opening your mouth, discovering people, discovering projects. And that's what it's all about is just getting out there, opening your mouth,
discovering people, discovering projects. I can't tell you how many people I have met and have made
friends with. I don't know if King Snooch still determines, considers me a friend after today,
but we'll see if he shows up on any more of my spaces. But no, shout out. A lot of OGs in this space,
and I'm glad to be friends with all of them.
So to sum all that up, Cody, it's this.
If you want to know how to be not only a Killer Spaces host,
but name a Killer Space,
just be like Cody from Layer 1X.
It's that simple.
Just be him.
I love it, my friend king snooch i
want to hear your take top piece of advice for creating a killer space topic and also while
you're at it definitely respond to cody are you guys still friends absolutely man i could never
not be friends with a guy he's an absolute legend and uh as long as i'm not already booked for
anything cody you know i'll always try to make it to your spaces. Love you, brother. As far as advice that I would give, the best advice I would give for anybody that wants to do spaces, whether they're speaking, hosting, co-hosting, is be genuine and be yourself.
And if you do that and you're genuine and you be yourself, you build your own persona, you build your own IP of who you are, you're
going to have people around you that like you for who you are.
And there's nothing more valuable than that.
If you could be yourself and people like you for it, you're going to have your tribe around
you.
You're going to have your friends.
You're going to build your relationships and people will know that you're genuine and they'll
know that you're not phony.
Just be yourself.
That's the biggest, the best advice I'll give is be yourself and be genuine.
And of course, I'll wrap it up there for you, King Snooch.
Be contrarian.
Be like King Snooch.
Otherwise, you may have an informative space, but if you could be like King here,
you can actually make it informative and captivating.
So as per usual, stooge my friend
just thank you for being you truly appreciate you next up we've got tori let us know what your
thoughts are i mean you not only have in your back pocket uh a measurable amount of data and
experience and connections and resources and you, a network full of these spaces,
top speakers. I'm looking forward to some gems here. What's your top advice?
Yeah. So, I mean, I dropped a little bit earlier, which is the two points. Ask yourself for two
questions. Is this going to attract speakers? They don't need to be experts, but is it going
to attract speakers? And is it going to attract an audience?
Just for everybody that doesn't know Xcohost is a platform, but before it was a platform,
we were a service and we were manual labor, just DMs, building a speaker network on Airtable.
It was a lot. It was a lot of data. It was a ton of work. I think layer one might have been with us like before the platform was even launched. And yeah, there's a lot of data there. We're using that data for something really cool.
into kind of like a resource for other people. And then when we do something with that data,
I'm not going to say what, when we do something with that data, it will kind of be linked
in this article. But I do want to just say like outside of the space title, right? Like
I think it was Web3 Matters that mentioned it, like niche down, then niche down again,
and niche down again. We always tell people to start broad, especially if they're first starting. And I think most people
that are listening to this space are going to use this, you know, resource to gather information
about what to do when they sign up on X Coast, or when they start their Twitter spaces in general,
or any type of broadcast or live event, right? Like this is used for everything, not just Twitter spaces.
But one of the biggest things is, you know,
you start broad just to get yourself out there.
But if you're not speaking on spaces,
this is actually the real gem of this conversation,
I have to be honest.
If you're not speaking on other spaces,
your title and your PFP is not going to be honest. If you're not speaking on other spaces, your title and your PFP is not going
to attract people. You could have the best title on ex-co-hosts, on Twitter, on LinkedIn, on TikTok,
Twitch, whatever. If nobody knows who you are and you're not putting yourself out there into the
community and speaking on other people's spaces, not a lot of people are
going to engage with you because they don't know who you are. They don't trust you. They don't know
how you speak. They've never heard your voice. They haven't built a relationship with you.
And so it's really important. And I'm having these conversations with new people that are
coming in on Excohosts. You'll click on their profile. We all know who they are. We can see them on Xcohosts. They're testing it out. But when you
click on their profile, they haven't joined a single space to speak on it. And so that's really
important. And they might have a really great title. I see the titles and I'm like, okay,
I don't have any, I have no notes. I have no notes on your title. My only suggestion,
my only advice is get on a couple spaces before you start hosting,
get your name out there. And then yeah, after that, just momentum is key, right? Just start,
just start. If your title is not great, eventually it will be. The conversation matters too, but
that's really the key there. But yeah, super excited to see how these titles kind of shift. And if anybody needs any advice, you know, or suggestions, reach out to me on Telegram, email us, fill out a support ticket, whatever it is eventually going to have, you know, additional support to like help you build your titles and whatnot.
But, you know, or use our Telegram community.
You know, there's tons of hosts in there that are super helpful.
And if you have questions or you just need just general guidance, you know, we're here.
We'll jump on a call with you, but let us know.
But thank you, guys. Really appreciate everybody sticking around for a little bit with you um but let us know but thank you guys really
appreciate everybody sticking around for a little bit longer on this one too and thank you cody
um for your insight and uh snooch everybody that was on the panel honestly it's been
tons and tons of good information i can't wait to turn this into
like a couple good resources i think it's gonna have to be more than one, but thanks, Travis. Killing it as usual.
Thank you so much here. Honestly, it's,
this has been one of the most alpha intensive spaces I've been a part of for
a while. And usually with Web3 Matters, our, our, our spaces are web,
are alpha intensive. Let me just tell you that.
Definitely do not be fading this space.
Definitely be listening to this on replay numerous times.
Take notes.
If you want to win, everything you need to know to get started is here.
And of course, if you want to win, link up with Xcohost.
And I don't even mean to explain myself.
You now know why.
So appreciate you and appreciate all the work that you do for Web3 hosts everywhere.
And people who want to become web,
geez, spaces hosts, there it is.
I need more coffee.
Creon, I would love to hear from you.
30 second take of the best possible advice
when it comes to making a killer space topic.
And then we're gonna get over to JB
and then we're gonna wrap it up here.
So Creon, it's all yours.
Awesome, you're gonna try to make it quick,
but yeah, come up with topics that make people curious about, you know, what others will say about it, whether it's a hot topic or not, or just something that is unclear to most people.
You know, that may bring clarity or education.
That would be great.
I'll make it sound like there's going to be so much value in it.
And then it's up to you to kind of like live up to it.
Also match the killer
topic with actual killer conversation you know um and that's actually that that depends on how you
drive it you know as a host you might not have you know kill quote unquote killer speakers um all the
time um and that's okay uh because that's where your skill will come in right you can invite
listeners and make the conversation more relatable to them,
especially if you're just,
you know, alone,
you don't have speakers.
I don't always get great speakers.
But yeah, always try to provide value
and kind of like try to be neutral
when it comes to like posting your topics.
So yeah, that's it.
Thank you so much, everybody.
And nice to be on Same Station Story,
by the way.
Good to hear from you.
Right?
Just the level of alpha,
the level of insight,
the level of experience and value is,
is next level.
And that goes to every single one of you guys here for being with us.
Truly appreciate.
Yeah.
JB, I need you to end us off drunk here, my friend.
You are the anchor to this entire conversation.
And I'm just going to leave it at that.
Please take the mic and let us know where you are.
All righty yeah 30 seconds on what makes a killer space topic I'm going to counter what I said a little bit before I think you do have to be open to what can happen you know open to to to what
you know what the discussions might reveal reveal and your personal opinion on things.
But I think you do want to make it, you do want to make it spicy, right? Like you have to make it a
bit, you know, controversial, or maybe even like, you know, putting out a position you might have,
like where you might be leaning, right? Like even stuff like change my opinion on this or whatever,
right? Those are
spicy. And also like last piece of advice is like, figure out what you want to do, right? Like,
figure out if you want to be like a full out meme, have fun, laughs, and that type of entertainment,
then, you know, lean into that, right? If you want to be more educational, kind of like what we're
doing here, what makes a killer space topic, of course, we're having fun, but it's not all, you know, mad memes and stuff, right? It's more
like, you know, educational and providing some insights and stuff. But I think that where people
mess up is that they try to merge both too, too much. And it's a bit clunky. And it's people
aren't really sure like what's going on. Because you do have people that are maybe in like the
more serious side of things that are
maybe signing up for that. And they, some, sometimes they don't understand humor. Like
it happens, right? You say a joke. People don't really know that you're making a joke and they
take you seriously. Like, Oh no, like I've had to clarify stuff sometimes like in spaces, like,
like, Oh, I remember when you said like, yeah, that was like a tool. I was just repeating a
joke from another speaker that had said it. Like maybe you had just like got on the, you know, the audio and stuff and figured it out.
So that's something I did notice too. So making it clear, you know, what the conversation is going to be about and the vibe in general.
So yeah, hopefully that helped. Thanks guys.
100% JB. Honestly, I was hoping that would come up this entire space is that idea of consistency
and balancing that with your niche. So over the long term, you give people more and more of an
idea of what they can expect, but also not keeping it stagnant. You got to keep it fresh. You got to
keep it spicy, just like you said as well. You got to establish yourself as that expert in
whichever direction you're taking the space. And my experience you know that is so much more valuable um it compared to the opposite where
you're one day you're talking about meme coins one day you're talking about politics one day
you're talking about um uh whatever knitting um it's just it's not going to do you any favors
um so i really really appreciate that take here, guys. Or JB, rather.
Again, neat coffee.
Falling apart here.
It's all good.
We're going to end off this space on behalf of XCoHOST and on behalf of Web3 Matters.
My name is Trav.
Thank you guys so much for taking part in this conversation today.
I really appreciate your time.
Really appreciate your perspective and your energy.
You guys are all out here building so much quality stuff.
And, you know, you pack your plates and you do it so that you can lift us all up here.
And you've certainly delivered in that respect in this conversation here today.
So I'm just going to wrap it up right here, guys.
We are a half hour past the hour.
So I don't want to waste any more of your time here.
Appreciate every single one of you.
Hope you guys have a wonderful rest of the day.
And definitely stay tuned to Xcohost
for the next incredible conversation that's going to drop.
Love you all. Thank you.
