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WHAT’S NEXT?!
Recorded: Jan. 6, 2026 Duration: 3:32:36Space Recording
Short Summary
The crypto market is witnessing a resurgence with Bitcoin hitting $94,000 and Ethereum following suit, signaling a broader growth trend. New ICOs are emerging, while institutional interest is bolstered by Morgan Stanley's crypto ETF filings, indicating a vibrant landscape for investment and innovation.
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We will bring you guys up, put a couple songs and we will keep it pushing. It's 2.30 and I'm calling on your name At a hundred neutral game
Down on my luck
I need someone to trust
Cause I've been debating, debating
If all of it's worth it, we all in a race
If I'd have been on earth, there's a time and a place
When we part with it all, was it worth it?
Perfectly purchased
They call it the show business
Everybody got an old business
In a crowd you feel a loneliness
You're a star in this world, come with it
Don't be your soul in it
This is the balance of the show, Venice
Everybody got a known Venice
This poobie got a hole in it
It gets dark when your soul's in it
Like a leg, put your heart in it I'm a safety of the trouble, dude
Took so much for me
Took it all with me
long ago
long ago
so this call
to you
is a call
of need
for someone to feel
of something
raw and real
they call it the show winners I feel something wrong and real
They call it a show in it
Everybody got an old in it
You don't cry, you feel alone in it
You're a star, that's what I call it
You're a soul in it
You say something like that, it's a show in it
Everybody got an old in it
You cry, you feel alone in it an open So we got a hold in it
It gets hard when it's holding it
Break a leg with your heart in it All right, we're about to get this going with one more song.
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Shit. Shit We hit them goos back to back, black Durango
Slide down this block, let them plans go
They hit the drumming, ain't no running from a drink
Look a hater, we get picked, but that's a case closed
Play the game, how the game goes
I play the game that was taught to me
I fry the beef that was brought to me
These niggas hanging, throwing salt on me
My mom be black and we can't talk for free No, he don't talk for cheap Don't know who to trust, don got me so I don't need them
Never gave it up, I kept striving and reaching
Now my mama happy knew I chase a padded pistol in his jacket
Still by that shit, which I let you have it, put that on my granny
Remember when I told them I was him, they always laughing
And now the layings, they got rental whips in brand new matches
Now I walk around this bitch, my neck and wrist be full of carrots
I just was home and sleeping on my cousin, blow a mattress
That shit was tragic, it be tragic, how these fuck niggas be hating this shit
But I was made for this shit, yeah, yeah, uh
Stay in my lane, play the game, how the game go
Stay the same, these niggas change, I don't change those times
Back to back, let that fan go
We in them coos, back to back, black Durango
Slide down this block, let them things go
They give up drumming, ain't no running from a trick, oh
I hate it, we get paper, that's a case closed
Play the game, how the game go've been a game, not a game, not a game
I've been a game, not a game, I've been a
I've been a game, not a game, oh
I took over the floor, I never thought everything I'd like
This shit was my son, I was screaming, baby
I'm sitting around, shit, I just
I know I'm sick, oh All right, let's get this going.
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fucking 24 hours just in crypto for anybody's been kind of paying attention fucking price of btc hit
like 94 000 earlier i think eth had a crazy run up literally everything had a crazy fucking run up
uh and then there's been
the whole thing that's been going on in the meme coin trenches for anybody's been participating
with like fucking jack duvall and the rest of the heads we can tap into in a bit and uh i don't know
i've been looking at that one ico i think you mentioned it yesterday uh it started with a t
can't remember off top my head right now. But yeah, we can type in.
Trove.
Yeah, trove.
There's some drama with that. We'll get into that.
But yeah, there's a lot of ICOs coming up for sure.
But yeah, it looks like stock market is doing well.
I don't know if you saw the Venezuelan stock market.
It is up another 50% today.
So kind of crazy numbers.
And U.S. stocks are up as well, about 1%.
I know it sounds small in comparison, but Dow did hit an all-time high yesterday.
So we are moving just a lot slower.
And gas has also hit nationwide.
It looks like 281.
It's probably only in Denver, though, because that's not how it is out here.
But yeah, in NVIDIA, there was a couple of headlines. It's like 281. It's probably only in Denver though, because that's not how it is out here.
But yeah, in NVIDIA, there was a couple of headlines,
not crazy headlines,
but they are planning on powering Robotex with their chips.
And this one was interesting.
China is, there's strong demand for the H200 chips,
which China was saying, we're not going to take those,
but it looks like they were just psyoping us again. And in terms of PMI and ISM data that came out,
it looks like it was lower than expected. It's actually at a 14 month low, so a lot lower than we expected, but it is bullish for crypto.
So that's the bright side on that.
And government shutdown, something to keep in mind.
If they don't make any concessions, we will have another government shutdown January 30th.
They did send a bipartisan bill in yesterday. It's a three-year spending bill, but we don't know if that'll pass.
Most likely not without revision.
But yeah, they could also just extend it before January 30th.
But hopefully that doesn't happen.
And what else do we have?
Oh, Morgan Stanley. happen uh and what else do we have oh um morgan stanley they did file for their first crypto etfs
for bitcoin and solana and white whale to get their buy bit listing it went to almost 100 so
yeah what the hell is going on there's no way people are choosing to buy that damn token like
it makes no sense to me how that token is above 90 mil market cap right now.
We needed a runner and this is the runner we got.
So I'm not complaining.
I think it's a healthy pump.
I'd love to see it.
There's been a lot of meme coin activity.
So I'm loving that part of it.
If it sustains.
I do feel, you mentioned Jack Duvall.
This Yara, what is it called?
Yaranaki or Yara Naaka or whatever it's called.
It's like the Japanese troll.
He paid or he bought about 230K worth, I guess, live.
And it pumped to like 6 million and instantly dumped.
It's sitting at about 500K now.
Kind of crazy.
You know what's wild to me?
Like, I saw a bunch of fucking threads on all of that.
I think a lot of these, like, streamers are, I don't know, it's like a necessary evil in this space. I'm not going to be like, oh, yeah, they're the worst thing in the fucking world.
But, like, what he did to that meme coin, for anybody, just some context, too.
At the top
it hit like what six seven mil uh he was holding 2.3 million dollars worth of that fucking coin
uh which is like genuinely insane uh even in my mind i don't know if it meant that meme coins are
semi-back where like people are top blasting hundreds of thousands of dollars but like these
are not the game personally it's just like the games i personally don't want to play like a lot of these trenchers
are like forced narratives that keep getting thrown around like when i was first or when we
were first getting into meme coins it was just like memes that were genuinely fucking memes like
it wasn't something that was like a derivative of a derivative of a derivative it was just like
i don't know it's probably the fucking boomer in me speaking but it's just like
it's kind of that vocal definitely the boomer in you no i think it's just like you don't like
meme coins as much as other things and everyone has like their thing and there's nothing wrong
with that but yeah there are some like um you know original runners but it's never gonna be
or i won't say never i hope it does return to 2024 vibes but yeah we were really spoiled with
all that liquidity everything was just running back then so we'll see if that happens again but
yeah still melania and libra that team just really screwed us no so melania is to blame for jack duval
top blasting 200 i don't know i i'm i'm just kind of for anybody who did want to just uh
look at it or from even from his fucking perspective there's a full thread uh that
it's it's pinned up at the top of the space i I still stand by it. I'm not a huge fan of like these meme coin trencher streamers.
There were some that I thought genuinely did do it well,
especially 2024.
You saw dudes like Spuno, for example.
I know he's not everybody's fucking favorite,
but like you saw him run up like a bag from nothing to something,
which I was like, okay okay like this is kind of cool
to see and then you saw like the jailins who were like straight dumping on people's heads but
i don't know i think we're like entering a new paradigm hopefully this is like a reset that that
we needed in the meme coin trenches but it's i don't know i'm not playing meme coins to even
begin with i have a couple i'm sitting on my hands and just kind of waiting, but it's kind of nuts. We have white whale on one side and then we
have this Jack Duvall shit on the other. I'm still shook. I don't know if it's because I didn't buy
the white whale token that I'm just like feeling this type of way. Maybe it would have been all,
I would be, yeah, it just makes so much fucking sense after buying the fucking damn token.
But I was just like, bro, the ceiling of meme coins was so damn low to even begin with.
And seeing a token hit 40 mil and I was just like, oh, shit, maybe I'm a little too late.
And then seeing it hit 80 and then fucking get this listing and go to 100 mil, it's just like, OK, maybe I'm just sidelined and it's the side.
It did. Yeah, maybe maybe it's just that.
But kudos to anybody. I mean, we need some liquidity events in the space and I'm glad sidelined and it's the side. Yeah, maybe it's just that. But kudos to anybody.
I mean, we need some liquidity events in the space and I'm glad people are able to eat.
No, it's good to see liquidity coming back because it was getting dark for a little while.
But even Rainbow Fish, the one that we talked about yesterday with Theo Vaughn buying into that one, it's like you know running up and down but it's sitting like
at 8.8 so not too bad um i think it was at like three yesterday when we talked about it and then
um yeah there's been a few like here and there so you do you do get like some opportunities
six seven went back down to 19 but it did hit like i think like 30 yesterday i feel that i don't know
i'm looking for the new meta i'm not as interested in i'm still playing perps on the side uh i'm not
as interested in like prediction markets at all uh meme coins not as interested i have alt coins
where i'm just like able to sit and just kind of wait and see but i don't know there's there's a lot of i don't know hopefully some interesting icos
that you mentioned yesterday that could be a thing i i went down the rabbit hole of parcel
earlier uh when was it yesterday or earlier today uh just to see what the hell is kind of going on
since they did just partner with polymarket and people have been talking about just
the tokens Parcel has and potentially getting a Polymarket airdrop if you do I don't know tap in
I don't know it's pure speculation but it's something I was kind of looking at yesterday
but I don't know well I don't know I don't know we'll see yeah that would be nice if you do get um an airdrop from polymarket
i don't know it kind of feels like reaching but um i'm not gonna discount it but yeah i think seeing
rwas like in real estate prediction coming on to polymarket it's pretty big because i mean everyone
probably knows like multiple real estate agents or at least one. Um, and it's such a big market that
a lot of people can play, um, whether you are actually in the market for buying or,
and hedging, um, because you bought real estate and you want to hedge against it or you're
interested in buying it. So there's a lot of opportunity for, um, people to play that market.
Um, and a lot of people that can have edge, whether you're a broker, real estate agent, or just an investor.
So I think that might be a huge play for them.
I heard a lot of people complaining about low liquidity potentially on these real estate markets,
just like there were with the Pokemon markets or the card market, which is like something I'm also kind of looking at right now too, where I'm just
like, okay, maybe now is not the time to start playing these games, but it could be. Yeah, maybe
give it some time to warm up, but I think there's going to be a lot of insider plays on that too,
because there's a lot of information that we're not privy to unless you're in the industry so but there's a lot of people in that industry so it'll be interesting
to watch 100 and we saw my favorite fucking token lighter hit like i think it had like three dollars
20 cents earlier today which i was kind of hyped about which i don't know it's it's definitely a
dub at least in the space you don't i said this
yesterday but like you don't see many of these like tokens after tge really perform and they've
been doing it and uh i don't know i'm genuinely excited to see what the hell kind of comes out
next i think people have been talking about uh equities and options and all these different
things on chain so if that does come into fruition does actually
happen like i don't know i think there's a lot more there's more room for it to kind of go
but uh i don't know we wait and see we see how it plays out and uh my my longs on some of these
tokens do have been cooking uh fart coin for example has been going nuts i am not gonna lie
uh i i thought i genuinely thought it was cooked
i thought a lot of these like large cap meme coins were 100 fried but it looks like there's
like some sort of rally behind some of these coins now so i don't know excited to see what
kind of comes next in the market yeah and hype had their team team unlock it happens every sixth of the month and it looks like did
not affect price it's actually up today so that's good news and there was that other unlock that
recently happened and it happened earlier this morning from just a market participant but I
know it's a pretty large amount but yeah price still looks stable looks
good yeah 100 but yeah let's welcome up some of the heads that we do also have up here also if
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definitely check it out and if you did want to come up and speak feel free to request we will bring you guys up but what is good live how are you doing today oh good gold baby
i love gold i'm so happy like every day i look at every day i wake up i'm like it's just going up
it's gone are you are you just buying spot gold or or are you playing futures or perps
on your gold positions right now?
No, remember I told you guys about NUGT,
the gold miners?
Yeah, that's the play.
They always have a little more oomph in the price action,
but it's a 2x spot bowl a like leverage bowl so it's like
it just doubles like say you know like i said if gold goes up two percent the etf miners go up four
percent so have you thought of just like playing perps on gold for example and like hyperliquid or like any of the on-chain sort of products okay i
do i play perps i what i do i scalp i scalp trade perps on solana but you have to you have to like
focus like on one chart and like learn it like an organism right especially like if you're doing
like if you're doing like couple hour trades because what i usually do is like i find a big
imbalance where it's like like right now i'm looking for a short after this like five days of green and i'm looking for like a good spike
and like a good green candle and to like a little resistance level then i'll do like a
heavy leverage um like a short and i always feel like shorting right now is way safer than longing
because you never know what's just to make stuff go back down.
Because like I said, it tends to like stair step up
and then crash back down to like the bottom of a channel.
Stair step up, crash back down.
And like, I don't think we're out of this yet.
I think we're going to probably go back down in the 80s again
and consolidate.
Then we'll make the move up.
But it feels like a little bit of a dead cat type of thing.
It's not a dead cat.
It's Jack Duvall ate the cat because he's a fat asshole.
Bro, you can't be family-friendly.
Or that.
Or that.
I can tell you that he rugged me, and then I bought a coin.
I can't say what the name of the coin was,
but it's a
picture of Jack Duvall as a pilot
and let's just say it has a word
that summarizes him
I bought that I made some money on that
can you give us like a TLDR
of like what happened from your experience
Jonah because like we're here in his side
I personally
Fortnite PvP bros know how to use terminal trade better
than me and or they have like a special direct broadband connection to the fucking terminal
dude jonah's having a time with this like with their meme dude i figured dude i figured it was
time for me because like i don't dude i said I said my New Year's resolution was to just try things
and not pretend like I'm better than anything.
So my first objective was, like, you know what?
Everyone talks about these fucking meme coins.
I always shit on them.
Let's see what it's about.
I get it.
I get why it's better than a slot machine.
It certainly doesn't pay better than a slot machine.
But that's what it is.
Bro, but you're, like, 2,000 and late, dude.
That shit is cooked.
No, I'm not.
Yeah, it's cooked, but I'm not late
because this psychology will affect all markets.
It's already affecting prediction markets.
Dude, we have terms in prediction markets
called penny jumping,
which basically means if someone has a limit order,
you just buy it at one cent above them
so you fill it before they get it.
And then you dump it on their heads.
This is the same thing in prediction markets.
So literally,
and I was up pretty
big, by big, I mean a few
hundred bucks, and a coin called the one coin
to save them all. I'm like, oh shit,
I bought in pre-bond. It's gonna go up.
It's gonna go up. And then someone nukes
it from 100k down to 20k in one clip. And I was like, well, there goes that. It's now sitting at 6K.
Fucking shit, bro. And I'm just, I'm sitting on Terminal and I'm just seeing these new coins.
And anytime there's like half of a narrative, like even a fraction of a narrative, there's like
500 Indian and Somalian accounts that go, read this, read this. It's this coin. It's this coin, time there's like half of a narrative like even a fraction of a narrative there's like 500 indian
and somalian accounts that go read this read this it's this coin it's this coin not the other coin
don't don't you think though jonah that's crazy we've become i don't know that i've said this
before but like we've become way too fucking complacent where it's just like meme coins have
been the narrative and like people have been the most comfortable with fucking meme coins so they
keep going back to these meme coins over and over again instead of like exploring like new sides to like what crypto is all about
they don't give a shit bro they just want fast money and meme coins have the potential promise
of fast money like gold good investment absolutely it's gonna go up absolutely but it doesn't go from a 6k candle
to a 100k candle in in three seconds but it's like a different vehicle but bro like the better
play is to play the news events you know what i mean like when we invaded venezuela like those
maduro tokens and shit yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm saying that that's where the fun's at but it's
not even though like they like they yes and no. I was literally watching the trenches.
Most of this last day had to do with just the Japanese meta.
And then you took what was like a great meta and you FSH'd it.
I won't say what that stands for as a Jewish person, but you FSH'd it.
For Hitler's stack?
You have dyslexia but yes yeah um but
like literally this one one four five one four whatever the it's uh it's sitting in the millions
and then the next day boom fucking everyone just not hiroshima nagasaki's this coin
and then there's like 20 different anime coins it's like i am monero
chan or i am whatever chan it is just like no one has original ideas and then there's venezuela and
it's like maduro and like 300 000 different costumes you can't figure out which one's worth
buying the problem isn't the idea it's that literally you you gave a nuclear warhead to an
idiot because you can launch a hundred coins and now everyone has the same coin you can't figure Literally, you gave a nuclear warhead to an idiot
because you can launch 100 coins
and now everyone has the same coin.
You can't figure out which one everyone should be sending
because the liquidity is too dispersed.
I mean, this is what everyone was saying,
but I relearned it for myself within a 24-hour period trading this shit.
Someone in the comments said,
Jonah is finally experiencing what
the rest of us did two to three years ago which is kind of well yeah well because i'm already ahead
on everything else i'm already like i here's i know what you guys are doing next perps i'm sorry
i'm not gonna be losing my fucking money i'm not i said this i play perps almost often but like
not often but like uh perps are more dangerous than meme coins 100 i don't disagree
with that but i'm just saying maybe i think a lot of no 100 a lot of it is just i don't know
like just the the i mean everything in this space is fucking gambling in existence but
it's just like i don't know we need new shit to play around with in this space it's not fucking
you guys don't actually want because like we've tried i do like bro i'm not playing i know you do
i know you do but like okay like we've tried it prediction markets oh it doesn't make me enough
money okay fine whatever you don't like prediction markets uh uh synthetic metals and synthetic
stocks yeah but it doesn't run like meme coins. Okay, all right, whatever. You don't like that.
Crypto gaming, they're like,
no, no, fuck that.
Oh, game, no, not that.
Okay, fine.
Like, at some point, we're running out of ideas, bro.
All right, fine.
You don't want that?
Creator content coins.
Oh, this is fucking worth the meme coins.
Okay, bro, what can I do?
What do you want?
You know, it's kind of like having a girlfriend
and you're driving, you're like,
let's get dinner and you're like,
where do you want to go? And she says anywhere. And then you enter this black hole because you never, it's it's kind of like having a girlfriend and you're driving you're like let's get dinner and you're like where do you want to go and she says anywhere and then you enter this
black hole because you never it's like it's just impossible to satisfy this you don't say anywhere
you ask them to guess and then you don't go with their first option you go with the second option
that's that's well how about you just make a decision like a man or you can bro it's yeah
you can't accept if you do that all the time, then the woman gets fucking pissed and she goes,
you never listen to me.
Well, that's why you have to understand her needs and wants.
Well, all right.
You know what?
I'm glad that you have relationship advice.
I didn't know that you were like a happily married man.
My bad.
But Jonah, even you mentioned creator coins.
We had fucking Nick Shirley drop his fucking token.
It had an Ansem fucking pump.
I don't know what it's at right now,
but people don't want to trade the shit.
Right, so I'm saying, what do people want?
Like a game, a Ponzi.
Please don't, we tried this.
No, A, the jail game is coming out, Jonah.
I'm not talking about your type of games
where they're building with a AAA fucking studio.
What game do you want?
Give me an example.
I will literally get the dev team to fucking come. People want profits. to fucking profits people want easy exactly that's why meme coins aren't going
away because it's the it's the most fundamental primitive of the thing that you want yeah the rr
is just too good and it can be fun too so it can be it's just it's gonna get harder wait how does
how are like how are meme coins i don't know i've never seen them
as fun it's it's like the rush of like how's gambling fun you know i mean i'll tell you how
watching a coin like go from you put some money in and you watch it like 10x instantly like that
there is a rush to that it's not only just that it's gotten like more developed because that's like when i wasn't trading but you get on terminal or loot or axiom and you see like you get a notification online
that like for example on loot it's like uh henry just logged in i'm like oh shit what's he trading
and then you go into like i forget what coin i bought yesterday but oh yeah it was cow's a
i made money on cow's a whatever the fuck that is and then i i get in it shows where i
bought it on the trend line and then hunter's above me i'm like oh this motherfucker is about
to be my exit liquidity and then he sells before me i'm like this motherfucker like it's it's like
arc raiders bro it's arc raiders for fucking nerds yeah but like arc raider is fun like you can just for nerds is crazy um level 61 now
it's trying to get out before you get crushed it's just like the whole like
adrenaline it's a multi-player chicken it's a game it's basically a game and then it feels
better because like for example jack duvall destroys the whole trenches and you're like
all right well i can't i'm gonna spell it out the f-a-g-g-o-t token that has his picture on it is funny and everyone revenge trades
that just to make us just to make a point to call him that word like it's all this little bullshit
i get it spelling it it doesn't make any difference wait did he make any money off of his 230k buy
like two million dollars he did he's the one that... It's been to the top
of his P&L card.
That chart is so
hideous. It is so ugly.
It has to be one of the ugliest.
He's in Platinum Tier League of these
fucking trenches.
And he's proud because he
was asking, oh, is there
no morality whatsoever.
Okay, Jonah, but at least with perps, dude,
you can use EMA crosses and MACDs
and shit to gain an edge.
Brother, no
Gen Alpha kid who's just getting out of
fucking, I don't know,
whatever drug they have and watching
a five-second TikTok.
None of these fucking Gen Alpha kids
are learning about mac d's the
only mac d's they know is at mcdonald's and that's because they're buying the pokemon pack happy meals
there's pokemon pack happy meals yeah next month yeah oh god see my point exactly side quest um
in talking about arc readers have you guys seen like the tiktoks of like the guys calling out for
help and then like neighbors
crashing down their door because they actually think that they need help or calling the police
on them that's hilarious is that what you guys are doing yelling like help i need help is anybody
there i mean the words that i say in that game will never ever be fucking repeated in in public
i have i just had a genius idea now that i know how these trenches work i actually think i could The words that I say in that game will never ever be fucking repeated in public.
I just had a genius idea.
Now that I know how these trenches work,
I actually think I could build good trench products.
Now that I know these trenches work.
Yeah, yeah. Now that I know how these deep 3 to 10k trenches work.
Alright, here's an idea.
Oh, he's here for three weeks.
No, listen, listen.
No, watch this.
Watch this idea.
You're going to agree with me. Imagine proximity chat in the trenches. Oh, watch this. Watch this idea. You're going to agree with me.
Imagine proximity chat
in the trenches and
you can hear them more fully the closer
they are to your way.
Oh, God.
Why would you want that?
You don't even understand why that's such a
good idea. He's like, what's up, little bitch?
Sell now, ho. Yeah, yeah. Sell now, bitch.
No, you sell first.
You have no idea. That's kind of what a vc is though telegram when you think
about it no no no no no fuck the vc i mean like a public matchmaking chat just like our graders
and you put the money on the chart and the closer you are to some other friend you see or someone
else who's got their comms open it's like hey bitch you in and they'll be like yeah and then there's people playing music you hear like smoke alarms people are calling you
the end i'm telling you this is a genius idea you don't even know you don't even realize how smart
this idea is oh god uh i do not want to be in any of these trench you don't want it's literally
arc raiders on chain and you get the closer you are to their fucking their fill it's like what's
up motherfucker oh i
see oh you're in that last token yeah then you throw a wolf pack on the chart yeah yeah and then
you form like clans and leagues bro and it's like oh it's fucking it's the orangey it's an orangey
fucking traitor that's what telegram is jonah that's a telegram have it integrated into the
chart itself and you have a billion-dollar idea.
They've been doing things like this already
with these different fucking FNF groups.
Like, it's not like you're...
I'm talking about, like, as a video game
where you're in, like, a full...
It's not like you have your own private Discord.
It's like you go into the game,
comms open just like ArcRage, you're like, yo.
And they're like, yo, you're like, yo, where are we going?
Right? It's like that. Dude, you don't even know trust me this is a genius idea
i'm not gonna build it because i don't i'm doing other shit but someone should build that when i
talked about like gamifying things i was talking about like the zed runs where you can like breed
horses and race them or like i can breed other traders and like make ai agents of them or some shit
god uh they they did that with like a mayhem mode claude make me an ai bot that trades like
jack duval but make him less fat yo i got a i got a camera for my tortoise and my tortoise is
gonna start trading it's gonna out trade most of you but like i don't know we we need some new
novel shit is like the thing like we've been trading
meme coins for fucking three years and i have okay i got another one i got another one there's
a loot box in the middle of that fill and if you can buy into that wick up and it crosses that
loot box little quadrant you get an extra reward in your trading tier but i don't know we need some
novel shit like cool if you guys can build on
these fucking ideas but we need some novelty in this space and i think i don't know if anybody
has any novel products or projects or whatever that you think or actually have the potential to
change up or shake up the fucking space put them in the comments like we're i'm definitely down to
try some of these things out and see what the hell is kind of coming out and i think that's where for anybody who's wondering that's where the most upside in the
fucking space is being able to fucking explore try new shit out and be early to something whether
you're trying to grow a platform whether you're trying to multiply whatever liquidity you have
it's just finding something dude sort of new and being early to it and being able to take advantage
of it while everybody else is doing some other shit.
Alpha, the guys
who made the weed game are coming out with Jailed.
I don't want to play the second fucking
derivative. No, no, okay, you don't have to play it.
You buy the chart when it comes out
and then they get the Solana tweet and you sell.
That's literally the games I'm talking
about not winning a fucking game. Do you think they're going to make
a Solana post again
for Jailed? Dude, every single thing they've done like all the last two games that racing game
got the solana tweet and then it mooned and then it went down same thing as addicted they got the
solana tweet and moon and went down and then and then they're at the conference like buddy buddy
with holy and everybody they're gonna get another solana tweet and then that's when you sell
i mean it but i mean i'm talking about actual novel shit not like their third derivative of like
a fucking ponzi to be honest but i mean teach their own if somebody at least it's better than
a jpeg on the internet with lore you have no clue about like at least something i would much rather
buy fucking jpegs than the next fucking ponzi from a team that dropped three already that are
every single one of them's down 80 90 percent from all-time highs but i mean to each their own like
at least there is some sort of sentimental value with like these nfts at least a ponzi goes up for
a little bit yes you know what i mean just get on the right side of the trade the key phrase a little
bit it just has no staying dude the other one went to 90 mil. From one mil to 90 mil.
That's a good profit.
Yeah, if you got in early.
Yeah, just put on the notifications.
Like, is it that hard, people?
What is the thing called?
The euthanasia rollercoaster?
Where, like, as time progresses or as they continue to drop more and more fucking tokens.
Depreciating returns.
A hundred percent. And that's where I think we're at with that platform addicted fund whatever okay again so
what what do you guys what do you alpha what we talked about the things you don't like what do
you want to see you said a game but like we that that you guys bullied every single game developer
out of this industry they're they don't exist here anymore so what that was like an example though i know so give so like give me some idea what do you want to see
100 honest with you i personally don't know what the hell i want but if i do see something that
is genuinely interesting and new then i will fucking try it out what's the last thing you saw
that made you feel that way last thing that i saw that made me feel that way uh that slither shit was kind of cool during the
icm sort of fucking meta but it was just like it made no sense i was just like oh shit like i can
buy some tokens play this fucking game and just like take other people like actually play a
fucking game and make money i was like that okay so you want you want video games that's what that
is not video i mean just something alpha Did you like the lotto meta?
Remember the lotto stuff that came out
it was dollars interesting until
You heard about what the hell happened on the background and how many people had how many fucking tokens and bro
How manipulated to shit it was but I mean teach them
I thought it was cool for a little bit and then
i heard about all of that and i was just like i'm not trying to play these games okay what's the
difference between that and white whale i mean like you don't call that manipulation of some
sorts i mean all these tokens that are going above a million dollar market cap are manipulated to
some extent it's always been a fucking thing it's it's been a thing since fucking 2024 and it's just
now people are kind of waking up to a lot of it or have been woken up to it but i don't think people
really care even me i personally don't mind uh even a bullish bundle is still a bullish bundle
bundle if people are able to make money off the fucking token uh then 100 do whatever but i mean
if people are losing money repeatedly
off these fucking bundles and it's these fnf kids just straight dumping living shit out of these
tokens once they hit a mil two mil then fuck no but i mean but the antithesis of every trade you
make is literally getting in before the attention and selling before it wanes like even from gold
to pokemon to games to whatever chart it is that's just the
basis of what it is getting before the attention sell before it wanes and you can apply that to
literally every single chart in the entire world on every single thing you trade
no matter what form factor it comes in yes but the only difference is like how much time you
have to do that right like i think that's the problem is like meme coins, it takes like five minutes, like three hours and at most a day.
With like NVIDIA, it takes like 10 years.
Yeah, no matter what the time frame is, it's just like it's literally the same skill, just different time scales.
And if you're the one that wants to like be the best at it, then you're focus on that said little tiny sector and be the best at becoming at finding that attention before it depends on how
much attention you want to give things and the more attention you get it the better you get at
it and whatever that may be you're gonna have an edge on someone else that's not spending as much
time on that one thing you're spending time on like cheddar is a fucking pokemon god right he
knows the fucking market he spends all the time
in the market he knows what what to buy low knows what to buy buy you know sell high and it's but
the time frames are just a little different so apply yourself people yeah what's good i don't
think we even welcome cheddar what's good brother how are you doing? I'm good, bro. Chilling. I have some time off. Not working right now, so
I came to hang out with you guys.
Seeing what's good.
Appreciate the compliments. Live.
I don't like to talk about myself, but yeah.
I cook over there.
It's nasty.
You need a plug, Cheddar's your guy.
Yeah, but I didn't...
Nasty with a peachy outfit.
Oh, God. We're not bringing that shit
to fucking
I don't know what she's talking
yeah what are you referring to just wondering
I don't know what I said nasty so
I'm just imagining his poochie outfit's nasty
it gets pretty disgusting
disgusting
shout out Alabama
shout out yo uh shout out to your Broncos one right Disgusting. Disgusting. Shout out, Alabama. Shout out.
Yo, shout out to your Broncos one, right?
Yes, sir.
Number one seed.
100%.
Bro, the Broncos are like generational.
It's a generational fucking team.
You give him an inch and he takes a fucking ball.
I just say congrats, bro.
Bro, I didn't doubt them for a single fucking second.
Not one.
Yes, I did not place any fucking bets for them to take the Super Bowl.
But I will.
I think I will.
I think you should.
Just do it for fucking the hometown shit.
Whether you win or lose, right?
You've done a lot of other stupid shit.
Yeah, the market's looking real good.
We're cooking.
I know you guys waited for me to
give you guys a market analysis so here we fucking go green green green green green just like the
same color as an alien friend you guys know what it is we're talking about legacy fucking things
that don't make three derivatives we got four over here we got spaceships and four fucking
collections come pick out which 40 and below you want and we're right
here oh god uh have the pokemon markets slowed down cheddar yeah dramatically i'm not gonna lie
to you and but i like it though right because i like buying at these prices like what i would get
yeah it's cut back like i'm gonna say 50 to 70 bro it's taking a big ass hit yo jake paul was
the top trying to sell that.
Yeah, isn't there, like, a crazy auction going off, too, right now?
With, like, Logan Paul trying to sell his, like, Illustrator card?
Yeah, I just seen a thread on it today.
I guess what, it's all tied to that Ken Golden's auction.
And what he's trying to do, he wants to orchestrate the biggest Pokemon auction for the 30th year anniversary.
Just try to do some shit for the clout, you know,
just trying to pitch the narrative and carry the narrative going.
So the whole auction thing is doing that.
Not only Logan's paw stuff is on there.
There's like other people that probably are not famous like Logan paw,
but they have some heat that, that Ken guy has found in the past.
And he has that on there too.
But yeah, that's going on over there.
markets down bad.
Everybody's transitioned to that OP stuff,
which again,
it's cool for me because I'm buying in volume.
I'm buying way more than what I was like.
Same shit that I was buying in the prices that I was last fucking months.
Now I'm getting like three times,
four times more.
So it works for me because that shit comes in cycles,
right?
Like, and the thing about Pokemon, I feel, and I don't, I'm not the fucking expert here. like three times four times more so it works for me because that shit comes in cycles right like
and the thing about pokemon i feel and i don't i'm not the fucking expert here i just feel like
everything has its waves i think it's just people probably don't like what the fuck is going on
right now with like the cards and how they look and shit like that a lot of that has to do with
it and also people are just fucking trying to chase a bag and that's just it just shows
you which people are genuine or not but other than that i don't really want to talk about the
pokemon thing because yeah we're on web 3 yo hey bro but isn't the canary in the coal mine is when
people try to fractionalize these like these super like i don't holy grails i don't get that i don't
understand it yet i don't think i ever will like rather just like, you want to get it that then just save up money and buy it yourself. But I don't understand how, you know, like, you don't get to say so like if the fucking card goes up to 100k, you're like, I want to sell that shit. You don't fucking get the final say. So it doesn't make sense to me. And just to be able to support someone. It's like you're working for someone else's dreams i'm good with that
No disrespect to anyone if it works and it makes sense for the other person and you like it cool
Because they always say like people don't like what they don't make sense of so maybe that's just what it is for me
I mean i'm looking at the logan paul fucking auction right now
1.7 million dollars is is the current bid on this shit. And there's still, I think, like 40 days, five hours left on this damn auction.
So, I mean.
They need to hit $7 million.
I've seen the TV episode on Netflix and the projected goal for him to make it make sense and all of them is $7 million.
So, he bought it for $5.5 million.
They want to make $7 to $9 nine out of it let's see what happens but
that was on the tv show wait it's only at a million and something because on polymarket like
for over four million is already 96 percent like the only one that's 90 is over six million
that's probably like insider shit like people you know and someone's gonna place a bid at some point polymark is calling it
for over six million do you guys think it'll hit seven then wait so would no be 78 percent
78 percent think so as a swing would no be low-key a play like what if they don't start bidding until
the end or i don't know i don't know what I'm thinking.
Dude, the last hour is always the craziest.
It'll probably be low until, like, the last day.
When does it say when it ends?
Yeah, 40 days and five hours.
40 days?
Yeah, they're trying to make it end on the fucking day of the 30th anniversary.
They wanted it all to line up.
I'm like, it's not the most.
Yeah, it's the most cornball shit ever.
Just sell the fucking card.
If it's truly worth what it's worth.
But they got to put these narratives behind it.
They got to make it a special occasion.
Which I understand, right?
You want to go hard.
You want to celebrate.
You want to do things cool.
I'm not going to dog it, right?
Because if we're on that side of the industry and we're Ken, right?
We want to try to make it special. But in fucking like let's be fucking for real here
It's just they're just trying to fucking paint it a little bit more prettier because the card looks shitty on the back. That's why
Isn't it supposed to be an eight or a nine?
I mean like that that flaw that's on there. I think they should do a read alpha. That's what they should do, bro
I thought like the fucked up like the paint chips on that card and shit and
i was like there's no way like why the hell did this get a fucking 10 and then not only that i
was just like bro if you already got it graded and it's in that fucking case i don't think anybody's
popping that shit open regrading it unless i don't know there was but you know what i'll tell
you this this is how
it just genuinely works let's just this is the genuine consensus with every fucking trader and
grader there is out there if it has three marks minimum three little marks somewhere on the back
of the card or the front of the card it is considered lp there's's no LP in the history that's ever been more than either a 7 or an 8.
What's an LP?
It's just like, how am I going blank right now?
Liquidity pool.
No, fucking.
It's like, it's slightly damaged, but not too fucking.
Lightly played.
I'm so fucking blanked.
I blanked out.
Lightly played.
Lightly played.
The card is lightly played, meaning like they probably used it in a deck
They were like sounds like my dating life
I don't even know you had one um
But yeah
Um, so that's just how it works and there's like what five marks on there four marks on there
It was a shitload of them around that so that was just what I was gonna end it with
Generally everyone knows in the grading world that if there's three marks on the back or the front of any card and we're not
even getting into scratches or swirls or any of that if you could just visibly see three marks
everyone grades that at an lp meaning it's lightly played so they do comps at a lightly played comp
not a near price that's just that never made sense to me and i think that's just why everyone's
bothered by it what about that other card the charizard i heard there's like crazy that's just that never made sense to me and i think that's just why everyone's bothered by it
what about that other card the charizard i heard there's like crazy that's clean i think that
shit's worth more to be honest like you wouldn't feel any type of way about that card on the psa
tag it like says logan paul break yeah that was stupid that was stupid that is dumb as fuck i'm
not gonna lie like i would crack that bitch open and regrade it myself and i would do it live and Yeah, that was stupid. That was stupid. That is dumb as fuck. I'm not going to lie.
Like, I would crack that bitch open and regrade it myself.
And I would do it live and get the clout for that bitch.
Like, literally.
That is stupid as fuck.
And you know what?
The other part, too, in the fucking title of that auction, I know you've seen, also worn for the first time on WrestleFuckingia like who the fuck cares it has nothing to
do with pokemon and the fucking chain who gives a damn about this iced out worn fucking yeah i'm
done i'm done shit is it's nuts how like crazy these card markets go though like i was like uh
even when was it like a few years back with like Post Malone buying that Magic the Gathering card for like millions of dollars.
And like people going crazy over Magic cards at the time too.
I don't know.
And now OP cards are kind of taken off.
People are still buying to play the actual trading card game.
But there's also like a group of scalpers.
Magic is going to continue to appreciate.
Like people do not realize how fucking fervent the Magic community is.
They've been doing so many collabs, too.
It's not even just that.
It's like, if you talk to any, like, hardcore gamer turned streamer turned, like, big YouTuber,
it's either Pokemon or Magic.
Like, Yu-Gi-Oh!
Like, Yu-Gi-Oh! could have been big, but Konami fucked everything up.
And they had, like, really cheap cardboard. Digimon, no one gives a fuck about. One Piece is just like a new
Netflix hype sort of thing. But if you're talking about like OG IP that's on Pokemon level, you're
looking at Magic the Gathering. Okay, sheer volume. Who has more cards out? It's like, it's Pokemon
and then it goes Magic and then Yu-Gi-Oh!
And then just recently One Piece.
Really?
With Yu-Gi-Oh! still?
Yeah, and then One Piece just.
I gotta go check my cards.
Just because they're so cheap, Jonah, probably.
And they're always on the shelves.
And then One Piece just flipped Disney trading card, I think, uh, 2025.
That Larkana shit?
Yo, that game's gonna go out of business, by the way.
I think a lot of people were saying...
Wait, wait. Are you talking about the Riot Games
one? No, he's talking about Larkana.
Oh, I don't know. I don't know Larkana.
I would be buying the Riot Games stuff because League of Legends
is, I think, also...
Because the characters are
between TFT, League...
What are you laughing at, motherfuckers? You hear your shit. Go on, you know, what are you laughing at,
motherfuckers?
You hear your shit.
No, no,
go on,
go on,
go on.
Go ahead.
I'm just laughing
because when you start
to get into it,
it's just,
you start to really like,
there's two levels of Jonah,
right?
There's like,
he comes in hot and pissed.
Yeah.
And then there's like,
this is my topic.
I got this.
Don't worry.
I'm autistic,
bro.
Like,
everyone's like,
he's such an asshole. No, I'm just fucking autistic, dude. Like, I just don't know how'm autistic bro like this is like you don't understand like everyone's like oh he's such an asshole no i'm just fucking autistic dude like i just don't know
how to talk to you in any other way anyway the whole shit why is one tft is making a huge comeback
all right here's the reason why and i know this is like if you're an e-girl and you stream there's
like two paths you do only fans and you you do the booba streams or you're
in your little onesie and you play
TFT. All the e-girls
are mega into TFT and they
just have a lore season.
And League is getting a
2.0 upgrade next year
plus the fighting game.
So they're pretty much really cementing
all these characters across the same universe.
And they have that new card trading system that they just built.
I forget the name of the cards because I haven't bought them yet.
But I think that is...
People are asking what's TFT.
There's no fucking way.
You cannot be helped.
Teamfight tactics.
Oh, people are saying if that's a new testosterone or something.
I'm too autistic for this conversation.
I'm pretty sure that's Adam.
I can't tell, but he always has some, like,
Wojak that looks like a Templar.
So, hi, Adam.
It's a Crusader.
Same shit.
That's what a Templar is.
Oh, God.
We're up on that.
I checked my bags in that fucking token.
We're kind of up, Adam.
So, yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
The way you said that right now, Alpha, sound like you just, like, were from, like, underneath water.
You barely got up to the top.
I hate meme coins.
I hate them, they're meme coins.
But I was just like, holy shit, this motherfucker doesn't stop.
And I was just like, okay, let me just fucking ride his coattails.
But, yeah, what's good, Adam?
How are you doing today?
How are you feeling about everything?
Bro, are we cooked?
My fault.
I'm making my bed right now.
I just dropped my phone.
What'd you say?
How are you feeling about the market right now?
Are we cooked?
Trench has been cooked.
Jack Duvall's a fucking retard.
And fat.
He's also fat.
He's disgusting.
Look at the people we picked as our heroes of the fucking...
The trenches.
And then understand where...
Ben 10 monster characters.
I mean...
Greasy hair fucking fat fucks fat fox bro but that's what happens
so like with these i don't know we we always prop up like these people and then fucking because he
has pull are we i mean i don't speak french as a collective in in ct whatever it's called like he
has a decent amount of pull on tiktok a hundred percent we cannot fucking deny that like he's
doing these streams well yeah a tweet went viral like two weeks ago of a guy flexing four grand
in his fucking checking account and everyone was like can i have 10 bucks bro so yeah i mean the
majority of people are poor so seeing someone click a button seeing someone click a button and
turn fucking ten dollars into fucking two grand they're like holy shit so what do you think can
save the fucking meme coin trenches nothing i think it's cooked i think it's called the rest of the cycle i think i think i
do you think nfts are coming back what can save nfts uh uh it's the same exact thing bro not
gary not gary v it's the same exact thing bro i mean we're we're seeing a little bit of like a
pump even i mean i'm to be completely fucking honest.
We just saw fucking Vitalik changes PFP to a fucking Malady.
And I don't know, mine sure has not went up.
That feels like a top signal, no.
I mean, he did it before and it did actually have a run.
I'm bullish, honestly.
I like meme coins.
I've always liked meme coins.
But I think the state of trenching is kind of just... I think all the tooling and all the layers to it kind of destroyed it.
So I don't think it's really plus EV for the most of us
to sit and spend 14 hours a day trading anymore.
At least I don't really care to.
I did it yesterday just to see what it was like,
and I cannot believe people did this as a thing.
Well, it was fire for a while.
I think right now it's all right, but I while i think it's still like i think right now it's it's
all right but like i i don't think it it used to just be free bro like it just used to be like the
most easy shit of all time like there's no there's just too much that goes into it now bro it's like
it's like what nfts became at least in my opinion so genuinely i know you are a little bit autistic
with some of these things but you are also tapped into the right circles.
Just in general,
who do you think is like doing the meme quench it,
even though you're not as tapped in,
like doing it the right way.
And you're just like,
I don't know,
actually doing the trenching and actually putting people on game instead of
just like,
you know,
Jack.
I don't think,
I don't think Jack Duvall is like to blame.
Like,
I think he just came in after it was already cooked
and is good at doing what it currently is.
It's just that's good for you, but it's like, bro,
even when trenches were lit a year ago,
it was like you would buy something and go to sleep
and you'd believe in it and it'd be a thing.
But now it's just like, I mean, the the multi wallets the the copy trade built into everything the like there's
just too much to think about and it's like everyone is literally in and out of a trade
in like minutes and that like it's normal now to hold something for like three minutes
and that's what i think is cooked i don't think it's Jack's fault I think he's just good at that and so good for him do I think he's gay and do I think
that level of trading is gay yes but that's because I'm old Jen I guess now but I don't like
I don't like if I could do it I would do it probably for sure but like I just it's not how
I trade so respect to him I guess but I think it's gay i don't know the whole trenching sort of push that people have been saying it flexing their
whole times for like fucking 30 seconds to a minute that's been going on since when was it
the end of 24 like i i don't know i wasn't a huge fan of that to even begin with like
but even the end of 24 it wasn't that bad like. Like, it was still, like, I don't know, there was still shit that was fun.
Like, it just kind of sucks now.
Like, everyone's just burnt out.
What decides you now?
Like, what are you looking forward to?
Probably ICM shit.
True.
We still got to wait for that, though.
Yeah, but, I mean, I think this is an important month.
I'm flying to New York tomorrow
and I'm going for a day trip to do some
shit, so. We just gotta wake up.
On what?
Recovering.
BTC has mostly Solana.
Yo, what's up, C-Cuzza?
Dude, you guys are hanging around the wrong fucking gutters
or something. I don't know. Shit's
amazing right now.
On what date?
Trenches?
I sent you a link.
CKOSA.
Check your DM.
Like, where are you looking?
Got me that.
Have you guys been watching the Grok coin?
What's going on with that relief bot?
Like, is nobody even watching?
Yeah, I made money on that one.
What do you mean made money?
Jonah, this is the most
insane experiment
happening in real time.
Yeah, it's awesome.
What's the market cap of this thing you guys are
talking about right now?
It's $10 million right now.
What did Grok do?
Okay, so here, look.
This got added to
Grokopedia yesterday.
That relief bot represents the first documented instance of AI system Grok developed by XAI,
directly initiating the creation of a cryptocurrency token through a public suggestion on X,
which was subsequently deployed without human intervention beyond AI prompts.
This event positions Grok as potentially the inaugural AI to accrue financial benefits from token related and it's associated banker the way it interacted with banker so what it did was it turned on the
fountain so so grok has now but listen listen it was a bit of a real is this lol.eth dude
ben.eth the fucking yes sir that's correct, bro. Holy fuck like bro. You fucked. Holy shit. It's like this dude. Wait, wait
What listen is the same true terminal garbage?
No, it's not nothing.
Hold on hold on hold on hold on grok has a has a the way that clanker
Tokens are structured is there's a creator royalty which goes to the grok wallet that's
owned by xai it's accumulated to date it's accrued to date over 115 eth and 2.5 percent of supply
right now they have the the guardrails on for letting grok cook with those funds. But as you've seen, Elon's been flexing
that Grok was the highest performing trader
just from this trading competition.
It's going to happen,
especially when the amount of...
That's the thing we were saying, though,
at the beginning of the space.
This meme coin game is just straight burnt out.
You can have a good narrative.
You can have Grok fucking trading.
That's what I was going to say. This, like a good narrative. You can have Grok fucking trading.
This like a year ago, dude, 200 mils.
I think
that nature is healing.
I think that's
fire that went to 10 mils.
You're wrong about that, but go ahead.
Dude, who gives a fuck?
Like, who gives a fuck,
bro?
Grock self-made of the corn cool, bro. What a retarded take to it. What what what's like? What makes that my evaluation because grok is smart
Because great because you have the most powerful real-time intelligence
That exists right now being able to harness funds
Create more value and and it conceptualized itself the concept
But it conceptualized debt relief bot as the name for the token
So and I even prompted it to add I asked you like in five points put together what the long-term vision with over 50%
Probability would be for the bot it's crazy
what this thing has cooked up um i just think that uh xai did raise another 20 billion dollars today
so like they have money to play with it yeah so the concurrent narratives are this thing but the
real thing is grok there's a grok 4.21 which actually is in the trading competition that did
out i don't know there's any no the only way i could see this so like there's two ways so we are about to go before icm happens
again which icm will happen we're going into this ai vibe coding meta and i think it goes on and off
like i think people get tired they realize they can't build very well then then instead of opus
it's some other thing like codex and if if it's not Codex and Cursor,
then Grok has a new thing.
And every time a new model comes out with a new...
Grok is on X, though.
No, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
But what I'm saying is,
if Grok has a competing product to Opus 4.5 at some point,
because it's all in a shared system.
It doesn't matter if it's on X or not.
It's the entire brain.
You know what I'm saying?
I think the whole other narrative.
X integration is an advantage.
Before you start just going fucking everywhere,
what the fuck did you do with those millions of dollars
you took from the space?
Just wondering.
What?
I did buy-bass, man. Me? I did buybacks man
What you talking about?
I did buybacks kid
I wasn't even around
I did buybacks
I did 6 plus million in buybacks
Go look
I'm not even in the gang
I'm just trying to start
You should go look at the 6 million in buybacks I'm just confused on why he's coming back around now Is genuinely what I'm not even in the gang. I'm just trying to start a shit. You should go look at the six million in buybacks.
I'm just confused on why he's coming back around now.
It's genuinely what I'm fucking confused about.
But to each their own.
I was saying what's up this...
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Did you kick him off, Spina?
Yeah, I did.
That's fine.
All right, so all things said,
I actually think the DRB token has an interesting narrative.
I get what Adam's saying.
They're like, oh, no one gives a shit right now.
But things flip quickly, right?
Like, Frank Vibe coded a tax subscription app
and then all of Twitter's like,
yeah, I'm a software engineer.
Like, dude, things happen overnight.
Like, so the minute if Grok ever releases
an Opus 4.5 style programming tool,
then overnight someone like Orangey
and Duvall's be like,
what's the runner?
What's the runner? Right? Wait, you're talkingb that's what that's the grok thing you're
talking about yeah i thought we like went through this whole thing like a year ago now yes yes it's
an old coin that's coming back because the narrative aligns really well yes that's correct
so no one cared but because people are coding with cloud now they're like oh we care correct
the amount of money that's accrued
in the wallet is difficult to overlook that it's over 115 eath and there's no way to turn it off
so that number is never going to decrease um and so it's going to get harder and harder for xai to
ignore uh especially when you have grok flicks and it's trading so your thesis is eventually
it's going to cure so much money that they have to pay attention and do something with it no my thesis
is that grok is already demonstrating his superior trading abilities right now and if you actually
give him well the hint you give it the power the powder which it already has to start activating
with the concept debt relief bot as a truth-seeking ai that is a compelling so what
happens when it uses all the money and it loses all of it though right what a retarded question
honestly there's no there's there's no hope for you dog like just how is that a bad question what
happens when the ai fucks up and loses that 400 you're rugby ai no hold on hold on so i feel like
i can see cost us hold on he's got an argument. Let me explain why.
I'll give you some evidence
instead of being an asshole
because I get what he's saying.
So I'll give you an example.
Someone made an Opus 4.5 bot
for Polygon trading, okay?
And they bought an already settled market
by accident because they didn't program
the Opus setup that they had
to buy an active market. So Trump made a comment that was
already in a settled market and the AI didn't realize that market had already been settled.
And so the minute it was buying like six figures worth of that settled market, all the losers on
the settled side starting clipping into it. And the guy lost like 200 grand from his ai can i can i just add one thing to that
and i will i won't be an asshole um let's just say somebody it's somehow grok loses all its money
it gets stolen uh now it's over a million dollars in there right there's no way to turn off the the
fountain that of grok getting a percentage of the fees, buys and sales that happened with the token.
So what happens is a big publicity event.
There's fucking Grok has a million dollars plus stolen from it.
Then people are like, what do you mean?
Grok has money stolen from it.
It drives more attention.
There's more activity.
It's still going to have money coming into the the wallet itself you cannot
turn on the dynamic that when all right so if you want this to be a crazy runner here's the
narrative that i would add but you have to convince elon like so someone who's close to
him so i i'm just speaking this out we're just yeah i want fairy princess wings i want to fly
i know i know so let me let me just say, because it's going to be reasonable.
What if someone convinced Elon that making the Grok a really good trader,
and again, none of you tied to debt relief bot, it's just the narrative,
and that based on its trades, it forms a sovereign fund
to give to its retard ex-creators.
And so every month, based on how much it trades,
it gives a dividend to its content creators. now everyone wants grok to win trades like it's so retarded that
it might just work it's actually conceptualized more than that for how to restructure debt relief
um globally and it's not like some some foofy shit there's actually like some some substance
there i'll put it in the comments what it's reply was for uh how it would
map out the the vision for that but it's pretty pretty crazy sounds like a security i think the
coolest thing grok ever did was undress bitches on twitter bro that's my dev dog that's my dev
bro we can't be saying shit like that this is a family friendly space i have younger cousins who
are listening to the space right now.
You guys are talking about-
Shouldn't your younger cousins be like in Minnesota banking right now?
Shut the fuck up, Adam.
Shut the fuck up for fucking two minutes.
Do you ever stop?
Also, yeah.
If you guys do have pictures of Coop in a fucking bikini,
I personally would not mind if it was sent in my DMs.
Like, 100% would not fucking mind at all.
But I don't fucking know.
MicroStrategy's pumping right now because of this MSCI.
They decided not to exclude Bitcoin and crypto treasury companies.
This was supposed to come out, like, on the 15th,
but it's ahead of schedule.
So we're seeing, like, a pump on MicroStrategy,
like, around 6% right now. Holy shit. but it's ahead of schedule so we're seeing like a pump on micro strategy like around six percent
right now holy shit uh i've seen so much bearish takes and fucking micro strategy recently but
so you're saying the thought that they were going to be listed off of some of those major funds
isn't going to happen is that what you're saying exactly because that was like um nice yeah i know
there was a big rumor going around that that was going to happen. Is that what you're saying, GG? Yeah, exactly. Because that was like... Nice. Yeah, I know there was a big rumor going around
that that was going to happen
and that was like a huge portion of that sell-off.
So yeah, that's definitely bullish news for sure.
It's bullish for crypto.
The Ponzi goes on.
Love that for us.
Adam, check your DMs.
I think it'd be sick if the phone,
instead of debt release bot,
it's called like roulette playing bot
and Grok would just like toss all the bread on green every single day.
I would buy that.
I think you just want to play Yeet, bro.
I think you're just really into playing Yeet.
We're so fucking cooked.
What's good, J-Bo?
How are you doing today, dudes?
Also, good to have you see, Kosta.
Always a fucking pleasure, brother.
Good to see you guys.
Yeah, always a pleasure.
What's good, J-Bo?
I'm chilling, bro. Got a nice little bounce yesterday.
And then we went like right up to those wicks of like,
like I don't know if you noticed on the charts today,
but like if you look at the daily chart,
we came like right up to the wicks of where we had gotten up to before,
before we got rejected and went back down to that 91-350 fib I've been telling
you about.
And what I liked about that pullback was that we held that 91 350 line like almost to the dollar like once I get a
minute in a few minutes I'll put a picture in the comments of like where that fibs at and where we
retrace to on the four hour but that was a nice move on the four hour because it's like when you
see a move like that when you break out of like say 89 and get past that and past the 91 like I wanted to see a throwback to that before we just blasted
straight to 100 because like if we blasted straight to 100 I would have been pretty sketched
out that that would have been the local top and we come right back down but the fact that we
actually retested that to hold that as support to then try and retake that high back out once we
retake that high back out at whatever that high we got to today was that's where I as support to then try and retake that high back out once we retake that
high back out at whatever that high we got to today was that's where i'm gonna get pretty bullish for
like some of the alt coins and stuff like that which we had a nice little alt pump today too
like solana was fucking ripping this morning and a couple other things so i mean i definitely love
to see that because like some of those i felt like we're getting close to like some of their support resistance lines.
So I was like Bitcoin tops out right about here.
This could get a little dicey for some of these alts.
But like seeing soul punch through 137 go up to the 140s and like ETH breakthrough like 32 was nice to see that go up towards like 33.
I don't know, Just looking nice right now.
So I don't know.
Just waiting to get some good entries on some of these for some longer term trades.
I don't know.
Just scouting some shit out right now.
What are you up to?
How you doing, bro?
Chilling, brother.
Yeah, belonging shit and just sitting on my hands.
Like I've been basically positioned for this fucking pump and
i'm excited i'm not gonna lie uh i've heard a lot of like oh yeah this is like a bull trap i've
heard a lot of people say a lot of i don't know bullshit at least in my mind because like my bag
bias and you know narrative it just there's a lot of factors but i'm i'm genuinely excited to for
what kind of comes next we have
this whole micro strategy thing that just happened uh schwab is about to implement
spot crypto buying which i don't know what bless you i don't think
also good looks on the soul yesterday to appreciate you guys for doing that giveaway
you guys are a fucking real one for that. Dude gave away like multiple soul yesterday.
Thank you, Tim Waltz.
That was Alpha and Gigi.
Thank you, Gigi.
Appreciate you.
Thank you, Tim Waltz.
Gigi, you're the shit.
Appreciate you.
We appreciate everyone that comes and locks in.
We wouldn't be here without you guys.
We adore you, Gigi.
Ain't no friend like a Minnesota friend.
Hey, Jonah, you don't want me to start coming for your dome.
But... Brother, you were in a crop top
at Art Basel. I don't want to hear shit from you.
It was not a fucking...
I mean, could you see it?
Could you see it
from all the way down there?
I don't remember. I'm kidding.
You're literally the same height as me, you fucking idiot.
Same height as your fucking ass.
You enjoyed the view. I me, you fucking idiot. Same height as your fucking ass. He enjoyed the view.
I'm kidding.
Holy shit.
We've lost the plot completely.
This space about to be...
Dude, a crop top is wild.
It's a box top.
It's a vengeance fucking box cut
t-shirt. It is a vengeance.
Bro, you can look it up. It's not a fucking crop top.
No skin. There was no skin.
There was no skin. Yeah, that's all that matters.
Peekaboo? Bro, I saw
pleated trousers and a box top in my store
today and thought it was you. Oh, God.
I see him everywhere.
Bro, did you
talk over soap?
Even on the back of my eyelids.
Don't forget a man beyond trends.
Bro, you should have seen the duo. It was Bobby and Alpha.
Alpha's in a crop top and Bobby looks like a Power Ranger.
It's like the funniest shit I've ever seen.
Yeah, I haven't seen Bobby in a minute.
I love Bobby.
By the way, I love him and I think it looked great.
It's just so funny.
It looks like, it reminded me of like Ed Ed and Eddie.
Like, what the fuck is going on here?
Yeah, he loves those glasses low key. But, what's good on here? He loves those glasses, low-key.
But, what's good, Coop? How are you
doing today? Please save us.
I'm doing
great. I just
added a comment to the space
with a picture of your shirt
so everyone can check it out.
But yeah, no, I'm good.
The bullish
energy has got me feeling good. I feel like we deserve it. I feel like silver and gold have gotten all the action recently, and I think it's our turn. So I've been long for a little while, and that's where I'm at.
I feel that. Are you still with Ava Labs?
Are you still with Ava Labs?
No, I'm not with Ava Labs right now.
I am unemployed dad life right now.
I've got a couple of potential offers.
Might go work for somebody else the next week.
But part of me wants to not.
Just maybe take a little sponsorship.
Hang out for a bit.
I like this Coop. This is a good a good coop so what's a buy right now
coop what what are you looking at in the market that you're just like okay like this kind of does
seem like it's underpriced or that hasn't caught up to the rest of the price action we see in the
market so um well it's tough because there was just a i feel like there was just a bit of a repricing, like memes.
Memes are up like 50%.
And so are they still underpriced?
I don't know, but I was buying a lot of fart coin
because I just feel like those memes that were less than a year
or maybe a little over a year old are still pretty good, pretty top of mind
for people that love crypto.
And as Bitcoin comes back, there's just more energy to go further out on the risk chain.
So yeah, I liked Fartcoin.
I've mostly been trading Bitcoin and I feel like Solana makes a lot of sense as well.
My fear for Solana is that there's been some change
and I don't know what their real focus is
as a network right now.
What is Solana about that is valuable?
Because it feels like they went down this path for
we're going to be the NASDAQ.
Some of them are still on that path
and I don't think that's cool enough.
What about all the money transfer stuff they've inked?
Western Union and shit?
That kind of stuff, I come from Avalabs, Avalanche.
They did stuff like that all the time.
It just did not produce trading volume.
People don't give a shit.
On the other end, you're thinking, oh, well, they've got this great license
with some important infrastructure. And you're like, well, are those people buying
the token themselves or not? And usually it's no. They don't really care.
They're using it as infrastructure. Nobody cares. The only thing people care about is
memes were great for Solana because you used Sol to get
your memes.
Like that's kind of my holy grail right now is like use that token for something else that's bullish.
What's a potential like meta that you could see,
a new meta or a meta that comes back?
Well, I think AI is another one that I'm watching
because everyone's talking about Claude Code, right?
At least on my feed, there's a ton of conversation
about Claude Code inside of crypto and out,
and we love to copy what's going on in Web 2.
Our last AI run was basically like,
AI is getting hot in Web 2, let's do it here
and slap some tokens on it.
Part of that is just dumb, but the other part is riding a
hype wave. And I see another AI hype wave with
Cloud Code. And I think people could get, if you have the right
market, you have Bitcoin doing well, Solana doing well, then there's a
big chance that people want action on some Cloud Code
projects and maybe get a runner and
start the narrative.
Funny you said that.
I have no allegiance to it, but there was a launchpad
called BagsApp, which has
an interesting model they're releasing.
They'll be like, if you launch a token
on us and you're vibe coding, we're going to give
you even more credits. So they subsidize
the credits for you to build more shit.
I don't know if that's really going hit but they they um kind of bribe you with ai credits at a discount which
actually unironically very valuable credits are really fucking expensive and they get used very
quickly if you're building anything i'm not a fan of bags or fin or any yeah i'm neutral i don't
really don't give a shit i saw one token or one that people have
been talking about i have no exposure to this let me just put it out but it's like the ralph
one or whatever do you know what the hell happened with that if there's like an act i don't even
fucking know i don't even know why i brought it up nevermind it's basically a plugin that you put
into your claude opus and it adds like a creative flavor to uh builds. I don't know if it's a full video or image model,
but it's a creative model versus the logic-based model that Opus offers.
It's like a widget, sort of.
Yeah, there's no name.
Tulip King's pushing that one.
Who's that?
He's the reason I got into Zcash early,
so it kind of followed what I mean by it.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
This is the state of the fucking trenches.
This is where we're at right now.
Could you link his ad just so I...
Oh, I see how it is.
Not for research purposes.
I'm taking your quant, GG.
I'm sorry.
But I don't know.
It's kind of nuts to see.
I saw a bunch of people posting about it on the timeline yesterday.
I was like, bro, what the fuck is this?
Why is there a Simpsons character?
Why are people tapping into it?
I don't know.
I'm not interested in it at all.
But I was just like, the concept is interesting.
And you said now people are launching with Bags
because there's like this... I don't know if they
are I just know that they've been hinting at it
and when I said that the founder of Bags
liked it so clearly
it's obvious but it's
when you launch a token
on Bags app that's a Vibe
coded project they give
you or subsidize the Claude credits
which sounds stupid to us.
But if you are Vibe building, unironically, like AI token, if I could do, if I could trade
AI tokens themselves, and I don't mean like on crypto, but the tokens used to talk to
God, I would be very rich.
Yeah, I just want to chime in that I've been working on a little project
that I've been vibe coding, and one of my concerns is that the credits
are kind of expensive, and I don't really know how exactly to monetize it.
So I was thinking, okay, maybe a token makes sense,
but launching a token on a platform that gives you credits,
that is pretty valuable.
I mean, unironically, i do know the founder and i
have no inside so if you want me to make a group chat i can do that holy shit we're like we're
no we're actually so fucked we're so adam adam do you want your founder to make fucking money or not
you invest i want you to make money but i think like, like, Finn D. Gods, which that's who that is, by the way. It's Finn D. Gods.
I think Finn D. Gods doing whatever
the fuck it takes to make more
money and scam more people on his
shitty ass list head and
everyone's pushing it is, like,
kind of hilarious. I'm not doing it
and I don't get paid for it. I just want, I want to
I know, but you're part of the problem,
bro. If fucking, if
tomorrow everyone wanted to monetize eating horse shit,
he'd be like, I'll give you 25% off eating horse shit if you do it on bad crap.
And also the fact that every retard you know is fucking vibe coding
is probably an interesting indicator on the AI space as a whole.
Crap signal.
Dude, so I saw, first off,
my one thing is I just want to trade Coop's token
because I traded his on virtuals
and made money from like two years ago.
So I just like trading Coop tokens.
That's why I want to help.
But second, I saw a tweet.
It was fucking hilarious.
And it was a guy who was like,
I forgot to move all my code to GitHub
and the AI decided to delete my entire repository.
Fucking killed me.
Bro didn't have a GitHub account made before starting.
So good.
Can somebody tell me what Vibe coding is?
I feel retarded for not knowing.
An AI, you talk to an AI,
and it gives you some sort of company.
You know, everyone's making RAM expensive
to do things that don't
need to be made like i saw fucking razzmar fucking stream for like four hours to make something that
he could have just asked three questions to chat gpt to do for him so everyone's just kind of vibe
coding um verbally ask to chat gpt yeah yeah for it. Hey, make a graph for me
that I don't need.
Hey, Claude,
where are the last five trades
on this Polymarket trade?
Can you make me a bot for Telegram?
Don't make any mistakes.
And then Claude's like,
okay, here's this.
And you go,
all right, Claude,
the numbers are not correct.
Can you double check?
And then Claude's like,
okay, here.
And then you go,
wait, these are still
not the right numbers. Can you check? And at that point, you've okay, here. And then you go, wait, these are still not the right numbers.
Can you check?
And at that point, you've used all of your credits
and you have to spend more money.
Money paid.
So what is the bridge between the two?
I was just wondering.
I've seen people talk about Claude and Cursor.
What's the difference between the two?
Cursor has unlimited.
You pay 19 euros, so like 90 bucks.
I mean, Root has fucking knowledge on the topic, bro. That's where we're at. Shut the fuck up. Let me speak you little bitches. Okay, so first
Nah, for real for real. I'm passionate about it
Yeah, I good day GG. I'm not saying to you but today
No, I know that
Okay, yeah, so basically yeah
Cursor is one of the 19 euros 99 that you get play cloud for it. Basically, it's an LLM that you can choose which type of chat GPT you use it.
I use the Cursor already for a year, and I do shit on it because I want it and I want to have a product for myself.
Not for anybody else, but if you use it for this or any entertainment purposes or somebody else,
or even being a developer at that point, please audit your shit, guys.
Have a little bit of money on the side and let's audit because of safety reasons.
Claude, can you audit my code?
No, you cannot audit your code because you need to have an external party to audit it, Jonah.
So stop being a little bitch about it, okay?
Thank you very much.
That's my test talk. Thank you very much. That's my test talk.
Thank you very much.
So do you use Claude?
No, I use Cursor.
Cursor every day, all day
because it's for me 10 times easier.
Okay, very rude.
He didn't see.
All right, so Claude and Cursor
both have their own AI models
that allow you to talk to the AI
to code or program an app for you.
People like Claude Opus 4.5
because it's a new tuned model that seems to do it better.
Cursor also has an integrated IDE.
You can import Opus 4.5, the training model,
into Cursor as an IDE,
or you can go use some other IDE.
If you don't know what an IDE is,
imagine you're making food
and you have steak on your counter or steak on a plate the plate is
the ide it's where you place all the food well i mean the most important thing to mention is cost
where um the max plan for claude is going to cost you 200 a month and it's basically like if you use
it a bunch you get timed out and you have to wait a few hours right but with cursor you just buy the
credits and then so you can run up like hours, right? Or with cursor, you just buy the credits and then, so you could run up
like a $2,000 bill with cursor that would have just cost you $200 a month
in Claude and maybe you would have had to take a break.
Yeah, but the hack, bad brothers, the hack.
And again, my company is not vibe coded.
I mean, we use some AI code.
I'm not going to lie, but like I have actual engineers, but like this, the
hack is to literally walk through the design document
of your program with Gemini,
and it'll give you the rubric on how to talk to Claude
at a much cheaper discount.
And Google's contextual awareness is...
I mean, it's fucking Google, right?
They have the best verbal language model,
bar none, aside from whatever Facebook is doing with Llama because it's open.
You know what?
Fuck it.
You don't give a fuck to learn.
Just click a button.
So does it not make you guys nervous that we're about to inject money
into vehicles that are literally vibe-coded?
Does that not make people nervous that you're not going to understand
that something has been vibe-coded and you think that this is a good shit?
You know the stupid shit that I've been buying before?
Bro, I put money in George D droid telling brock what to do i put money in george droid brother i'm not
worried about anything i mean um there should be some security concerns i would definitely use oh
yeah well that obviously yeah there's always uh security concerns right but someone who's worked
in uh it audit and it risk for uh eight years, auditing Fortune 500 companies.
You could have teams of engineers
that still miss as simple as security risk.
I would never want you to audit my shit
because you don't believe in the government.
So you might as well say, oh, fuck the taxes.
Then you get my shit wrong.
If anything, that should make you all hire him even more.
IT audit has nothing to do with taxes.
It has nothing to do with IT risk.
I'm just saying just generally.
Two risks.
Bad Brothers, I'd hire you 12
days a week thank you heathen but i mean like yeah i mean one time i was working at a company
they they acquired another company uh for millions of dollars um i'm not gonna be specified but
long story short they had like two million um of america's uh social security numbers unencrypted
sitting at rest in the database and it it's just like, you find that stuff
at Fortune 500 companies, things like that all the time.
So, I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't,
you know, security risks.
What I am saying is there are security risks
with everything, right?
And it's how people analyze those risks,
measure those risks and mitigate those risks.
That are the most important things.
So yeah, I mean, you should be asking people
how do they secure their systems and those types of things and they should uh be able to articulate those things but like is there
going to be like a tag to say like this was made with ai or is it just going to be like no this is
my you're never going to be in like two years you won't be able to tell and then it's also like what
is your risk right so if you're if you're going on to an app and it's vibe coded let's say right
and they don't do anything with money or saying it's like an image generator or something
that it's like, there's no real risk.
Who cares if it's vibe coded, right?
If it's something where, I don't know, they need your private key or something, then it's
like, yeah, you should be very concerned.
Or if they're asking for personal information, it's like, do you encrypt data at rest?
That type of thing, right?
So it's just like, you know, it's all just on a risk approach basis that you should really
be judging a lot of things.
So my question is, so is the narrative that's being pushed out right now by at least from what I've seen that Claude is about to change up the game and people are going to actually from the CT space are going to build products out that have like real value to create that or is it the next billion dollar fucking meme coin is potentially going to come from somebody who vibe coded some dumb ass product that solves no problem and uh is about to gain a
bunch of traction like what's that part it's gonna be super fun yeah yeah but it's like i don't know
it's like i've been thinking about this where it's like it raises the bar though at the same time
where it's like because everyone can vibe because anybody can like whip up a web app in like a couple days and it's like, I don't know, it's different than the last AI cycle where it's just like, oh, there's a chat bot that does something.
Now it's like when someone whips something up, like people can think through, oh, I could do that in Claude code or something, right?
So it's like, I feel like if someone just vibe coded something in a day, put it out there and put a meme coin to it,
it'd be much harder for people to be like,
oh, this is the next big thing than it was a year ago.
You know what I mean?
I did want to go to Heathen was throwing thumbs down while you were speaking.
And well, how dare he?
What's good though, Heathen?
What were you saying?
My bad.
I was going to say pretty much nothing's going to change
because this stuff's been around long enough.
So you're just going to get more shit stuff's been around long enough so you're
just going to get more shit and people who already think they're so smart are going to attempt to
build something and realize they're building a solution for a non-existent problem and then
try to convince you through a shitty article uh that it's good uh and my not also uh just so i
want because i want to make sure everyone's safe p PDF files are using the vibe code to stop using it.
Also, 14-year-old girls say vibe code and Taylor Swift fans.
So don't say vibe code.
Shit's gay.
Like the term Web3.
Cut that shit out.
Hey, hey, why are Taylor Swift fans?
Vibe code.
Vibe code.
What are you saying?
Wait, what are we going to say then to make sure we know we're trading the right tokens?
Heathen has a problem with every word.
Like, he doesn't like cringe.
He always has to say that.
Okay, I got it. He always has some shit. Okay, got it.
He's the thought of the name.
We also did forget, Heathen does watch a bunch of grown, sweaty men in a fucking, in a little fucking rectangle fucking fight it out.
It's a square.
We should trust him.
He is the guiding light on what's gay, okay?
Oh my god.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, Heathen's definitely tapped out.
So you don't think anything's gonna change
i'm not playing any of these fucking clodgers i mean i'm sure i'm sure stuff will get launched
it's just more of like we're gonna have people building like the shittiest implementation of
already existing software but be like yeah but on chain uh maybe a good idea pops up and somebody
steals it and makes it a real product all All right, I want a meme coin called Autism Scale.
Autism Scale?
No, Autism Scale.
And it's just like a questionnaire of how autistic you are.
And then it generates an NFT PFP based on the type of autistic you are.
And you have to pay for that NFT in the little autistic vibe-coded meme coin.
Jonah, you do not need an autism scale, bro.
We can give that to you, bro.
You're the one wearing a fucking Templar
Wojak. Don't even fuck the fuck.
Yeah, that's tight. Okay, okay.
Alright.
I have seen people do it well.
Like, fucking, what is the dude's name?
Mert, for example. Like, he built,
he vibe-coded an entire... Yeah, but he raised
a hundred million dollars and built, like, a major tech
company. It's like he's a deep tech founder even without that like as a side project for anybody
who hasn't paid attention or seen his fucking journey like dude created a brand new fucking
platform to see the prices of a lot of these tokens i think solana being one and you can
basically play prediction markets on whether the tokens go up or down and it was all vibe coded
from what i saw like that that's a dope concept new novel fucking concept and it's not like he's trying to extract billions of dollars
from the fucking space and it's i don't know it's like one way that i can see it kind of working
but yeah but that's mert and you're looking at people out here who just say i mean there's a
difference between saying dumb shit and being dumb but but do you get what I'm saying? What if the next Mert
is sitting on stage
in this Twitter space with the name of
Jonah?
For sure.
My frame is sick.
My name is Jeff.
It'll definitely be rude.
Okay.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
But, I mean... Alpha, I'll give you all my wolf packs and arc raiders if you let me show uh jonah leave the fuck alone with your shilling road like
you need to go shut the fuck you got you got a lock-ass motherfucking thing on your pfp all
right go with your body if you just started and didn't say anything, he wouldn't have just let you cry. I know. Speaking of fucking wolf packs, for those who...
I am not in a bad mood, Jonah.
Speaking of wolf packs, if you guys have played Ark Raiders and you want to take one of your teammates out because they have some rare loot,
make sure they get taken out, make sure they got a spider on their face, and then throw a fucking wolf pack on every...
Just leave them to die, too, and you will be able to get all their rare
fucking loot this is not financial advice this is just great fucking advice also if you guys are
just joining us press that bottom right button like comment retweet all of that is appreciated
uh we're about to vibe i'm on vibe coding.com right now about to vibe code some shit y'all
don't even is that really even a website? Wait, what are you building now? What's the idea?
That's the most important part.
Imagine NFTs.
And then they're backed by Bitcoin runes.
And then Bitcoin runes.
Oh my god, it just got worse.
He's building Somali Shield.
All the people caught on Somali Scan can use Zcash mademade, vibe-coded Somali shield to go send
their PPP loans.
Bro, is that why Zcash pumped so hard?
They were trying to get all that money
out of the daycare system?
Ironically, probably. Honestly, probably.
We are so cooked.
Here we thought they were missing
Bitcoin from 120 and flushing us.
It was really just daycare, Brad. That's crazy.
What's good here, then?
I heard you lost four bobcats with Burden.
Is that true?
Yeah, that dude's fucking dog shit at the fucking game.
Bobcat 4 is at it.
Kinetic converters.
Fucking everything.
Extended back threes.
Yeah, fuck Burden.
Where is that?
There's a game where you strip car parts.
Oh, GG. Oh, Gigi.
Oh, you have no idea.
You have no idea about this culture.
No, I don't.
I want to keep it that way.
That's where they strip car parts.
Oh, my God.
That's true.
Now, Gigi, you don't understand.
This game, this is the new Fortnite of our generation.
Should I hop on Jonah?
Oh my god. Who said that?
Oh, I see. Hop on Jonah.
Hop on Jonah. Hop on Jonah?
Yeah, hop on.
Hop on our creator.
We've got all the brightest minds in fucking
crypto up here about to teach us
about the future of vibe coding.
I see.
How do we get started on vibe coding?
What are the first steps we take?
So basically, any idea that you have in life, you just think about it and you start vibing.
First of all, you need to take Adderall.
Bro, don't rush.
I have cousins.
Yes.
Yes. Frank Digo told me that. I have cousins. Yes, yes.
Frank Digo told me that. I called him.
I literally told him. I told him, what's your secret?
And him and Malcolm are taking
crazy Adderall every day. Like, at least
50 milligrams.
Just blew up his fucking spot.
50 milligrams.
I swear. An hour, of course.
Kill a horse.
No, they have crazy boners, bro.
Heart palpitations just thinking about that.
Oh, this explains so much.
Dude, they should do like the Magras and just go straight to meth.
Oh, my God.
He admitted that.
Facts.
Facts.
Clavicle, whatever his name is.
This is, this is, this is.
And by the way, I pee on fucking clavicular.
If I catch him, bro, and he tells me I'm a two out of ten, I'm the shit out of him the pretty face of mog apparently yeah yeah bro imagine he sees my face what the
fuck he gonna say he can't did he say he's gonna pee on clavic is that what i heard i'm genuinely
so fucking confused right yes okay thank you thank you so Thank you so much. Good to have you, I seem.
Bro, I have younger cousins
who are listening to this fucking space right now.
Yeah, we shouldn't have that as shown, though.
I'm 100%
like, I'm 100% gonna judge him.
100%.
I mean,
yeah, what he does
on his free time, he wants to
pee on him. I mean,
I genuinely... I think it's mean you convinced your cousins to come
Alpha, you're a young motherfucker
But you might remember when
You know, streaming came out
And everybody had a mic
And everyone turned into a rapper overnight, right?
Like, you had GarageBand
And everybody had their shit, right?
And it gets oversaturated
Obviously, there's a there's
a bunch of dumb shit yeah alpha was studying in a jewish school you couldn't play the playstation
like us bro listen they had they had the fucking garage band and all the somalian daycares okay
relax but what i'm saying is yes it gets over saturated with all the fucking dumb shit but it
also unlocks you know people might have not have the
the technical piece but they have great uh you know innovative minds and they have great concepts
and now they can actually do something about so i think from a net effective standpoint it's
definitely bullish to have this vibe coding even though everyone thinks they're a fucking
technical genius now it's still gonna make the the dankest shit rise to the
top i feel that and i i do feel it but it's gonna i don't know the dilution is gonna be kind of
fucking crazy like i the way i'm like thinking about it is like there's like you said like i
remember the soundcloud era where everybody wanted to be a fucking soundcloud fucking artist but uh
the thing is even with a lot of it it it's just like, I don't know.
You do get a couple gems, 100%.
The big opportunity is in those very, like,
either you're selling the shovels or you're, in the words of the Pokemon,
I want to be the very best.
Like, that's what it is.
You get, you know, get to the top.
Now, you may end up, like, being a serial killer, like D4D, you know, that the top now you may end up like being a serial killer
like d4d you know that rapper or you may get shot on a motorcycle like xxs tentacion but surely they
came out of that era and they were pretty good yeah i mean it's the same with anything what was
content before youtube it was like you're either on a tv show you get on american funniest line
wire but it's just like uh yeah i LimeWire. But it's just like, yeah, I mean, well, LimeWire maybe,
but it's just like...
Bad boys, what you gonna do?
My question to you guys, like, we had an AI meta already
that did happen in this fucking space.
What novelty came out of that?
That wasn't AI.
That was people wearing AI jerseys
that were completely unassociated with the actual AI.
That was a lot of bullshit. I mean, like, the equivalent of the last AI meta is basically you can make a chat bot in, you know,
cursor now in, like, 10 minutes and send up a website in 20 minutes and connect that to open router
and have it spit back things in another 10 minutes, right?
So it's like that was basically 90 of the ai meta uh that we had where it was just
like a chat bot that someone spun up um that can be done now in like 10 minutes you know
they were gp it's not going anywhere i think it just showed that there's a huge appetite for ai
and for real products it's just that most of the products were large but there was a disconnection
on that first round right like it was it was a bunch of tickers and you aren't owning equity in those companies you are there was nothing that
was actually substantive whereas like now there are opportunities to you know participate alongside
the agents or or benefit from it well drb is one fucking clear on equity what's that
they're raising equity privately 80 40 i'm not saying all of them, of course.
I'm saying that there are projects, token projects, like DRB, where you can buy a piece of the cap supply and you can participate in the growth of the project.
Adam's full porting right now.
No, it was just the first shitty iteration.
There was money to be made, but hopefully it improves and we get something better or we don't.
But yeah, I think people are really interested in AI.
Because the way I'm like thinking about it, like when I think about the last AI meta,
the one thing that actually stuck from all of that was fucking fart coin,
which is not anything fucking novel.
It's a fucking joke to even begin with.
It just makes
me seem like everything like if that is the one that sticks that means everything else is a fucking
joke too uh i'm gonna check out uh drb after the space but it's just like i don't know it's it's
just like i don't know where we kind of go from there like we can talk about how claude and opus
or claude opus is about to change the fucking game but the difference though is that this drb drb grok is the is a social participant
like market participant now claude is a is a platform it's a it's an llm but it's not it
doesn't have the like actual response component on the timeline on the public timeline and i think that is a
differentiator that is just like the amount of fucking reach that grok has if you think of all
the motherfuckers it's replying to at one time across the world and all the the intelligence
and insight and fucking social uh you know nuances that it can pick up on um to be able to to do
real-time fucking millisecond trades and uh and structure
things that you know we haven't even thought of um it's insane when you're literally pumping
powder in the form of eath a compounding asset uh you know at least if you believe in eath
that is that is a compelling fucking set of ingredients okay can i just say just in general
with like a lot of these AI things, I'm not convinced
and I will kind of stand on that. But if I do get new evidence of, I don't know, something that
could actually change the world or have some sort of lasting effect, 100%, my whole thesis will
completely fucking change. I think your bearish take on it or view you have is definitely deserved, right?
But there is one thing that's very different.
The other things that we've seen, there hasn't been a 100% of the funds for the royalty tied to the income.
It's right to the actual source.
All of them are created by teams or projects or whatever.
This is literally the
only one that has custody of these funds is XAI. And it's a fountain that can't be turned off.
And it's not insignificant. It's in the form of a Weath and a DRB pair, 50-50 pair. So the fact
that it has over a million dollars accrued or fees claimed in the wallet to date. And that's after less than a year.
And so I don't think any of the other projects have that dynamic where the more activity buys or sells, it results in revenue, like a constant revenue stream to the LLM directly.
I feel that.
Also, I did want to welcome but some of the heads that have also
came up but it's good
Toshi Betts
also used the link in our bio
for 200 or you said
Toshi
he said 800% bonus
and also fuck you Toshi
I completely forgot bro you took
two days to fucking
to hit me back for the 750
fucking likes
before the fucking broncos game to get fucking i'm literally saying i'll spend money and you're
muting me all right never mind it's mine it's mine it's mine i swear i gotta communicate
everybody's trying to yap at the same exact time that's what's kind of going on bro he set me up
for fucking failure and he's just laughing about it.
Bro, I messaged him two or three days
before the fucking game came out
and he was just like, oh shit,
three hours before, he hits me back up.
Yeah, get 750 likes.
There's four hours to kick off of the fucking game.
But yeah, I also lost money,
which I will be fucking recouping somewhere or another.
Hey, you know what?
Either way, number one seed, baby.
Devin Braga, let's go.
Wait, did they win?
How did you lose money?
I took the wrong bets, and I was just like...
You bet against them?
I mean, I don't think he's setting you up for failure.
That's like 2% of your following, bro.
That's pretty easy, in my opinion.
You could have just paid for the boost.
No, I wanted to do it organically.
You know, like the right way.
But like, I don't know.
I don't play these boost games or whatever.
I was just extremely cheap.
Hey, I have a question.
As I see him, have you vibe-coded anything yet?
We asked him already.
Shut the fuck up.
Did he say yes?
No, let me speak.
My voice is not your voice, bro.
Bro, we didn't even get to welcome a fucking Toshi.
Toshi has not said a single fucking word
and we're going back to fucking I-C.
In what people are interested?
English.
That's it.
Toshi did his money.
Are you rich?
Are you a millionaire?
No, he is.
So let him fucking stay back and be muted.
The broke people
need to talk first.
The rich people are charged to talk.
Unmute the pores.
That's how you shepherd
us to gains, Alpha. Go ahead.
And I just want you guys to know
paying for the boost is organic.
It's organic because it shows that you have more than $21 on your credit card balance, brother.
Damn, I'm just poor there.
Let's go, curl.
Yo, bro, you got...
Yo, bro, I don't...
The 30-something is not a funny joke anymore.
It was funny fucking six months ago, bro.
It's not funny anymore.
Yo, we're lighter boys now, bro.
We don't do this, bro. Shit. not funny anymore. We're lighter boys now, bro. We don't do this broke
shit. You know what I'm saying?
I'm not working on not working
as much anymore.
Lighter boys, do you guys have
a group chat and are you guys getting tattoos?
We got a group chat.
It's called The Chart and that bitch
only up.
We're going to add proximity chat to that.
You were going gonna say something to
toshi while i was speaking no it's all good man i'm never getting the steak deal don't worry about
it no he's asking you for your ref code and you fumbled the bag so i just sent him oh oh oh it is
it is give me two seconds it is alpha co alpha co oh i think you're muted i I can't hear you. Wait, did I ask?
No, he's fucking muted. Yeah, I think you're looking for GGNFT.
That's the one you're looking for, bro.
No, AlphaCo Link is a Somalian drainer.
Bro, I see.
But thanks, J.
You know, it's weird.
AlphaCo sounds like the name of a daycare.
Exactly.
Hey, Bobby, you're coming
up on smoke fucking already.
How do you feel? Beaver has more pull
than you. He is really fucking him
while you're just basically feeding
off the driblets left of
what's left over on his fucking plate.
That can't be true.
Do the thing now.
I actually
talked to him last night
and he admitted to me that he bought 15,000 followers.
Bro, why would you air out a bro?
Oh, he did that.
He's not my bro.
I fucking hate him.
I don't like the guy at all.
Why were you on the phone with him?
To tell him how, to reiterate.
He was trying to learn how, he was trying to learn how Bieber gets on the vacation.
They don't have the same human emotions.
It's a wild thing.
It's like watching hyenas out there, bro, on the Savannah.
Yeah, probably.
I'm back, though.
Look who's public.
Look who has a public account.
Look who's about to make a tweet today.
Look at me.
I'm back.
What's with the delicate features in this fucking BFP?
Like, why y'all always got to have wearing dresses
or have these little doughy eyes and shit?
Like, why can't you just come out with some
I don't know Bobby. Yeah, what's wrong with being buckable and cute? Well, I guess that's subjective
Darkness like girl look at that motherfucker. You can't even see it. Put pants on women, man, and socks on their feet. Nobody wants to see your
fucking grotesque little fucking piggies,
you fucking weird broads.
Yeah, seriously, any of you girls that are
thinking about sending me pictures of your feet,
don't fucking do it. Okay.
It's disgusting. It would make me fucking piss.
Just the boys.
My DMs are open, ladies.
Take the Tims off and send them.
On a serious note though Bobby
Can you put her feet in a bikini?
I did have a question for you
How do you feel about this entire
And then we'll continue on the fucking joke conversation
But like the whole Jack Duvall situation
That just happened earlier today
Like meme coins are fucking fried
That's your goat right?
He is fried
He's got 2 million dollars in there
And he didn't took fucking profit He's just retarded If I see him I pee on him again your goat right that's all he is fried he's got two million dollars in there needing to
fucking profit he's just retarded thanks thanks thanks i see him hey hey i see him i don't think
your name's bobby but i know english is not your first second third fourth fifth sixth or seventh
language but who's bobby english is not me nigga third language either you're not you're not black
that's what a god okay i think we're Bro, like, you keep poking the fucking bear.
Please stop, bro.
We're trying to...
I seem, what are your thoughts on the new South Park?
Okay.
Bro, can we ask Bobby the damn question?
I'm not going to lie.
I just want to hear I seem talk for, like, most of the space.
I mean, I feel like we all agree.
Bro.
Well, Jonah, why don't you call him on the phone?
Anyways, not to toot my own horn or anything,
not to toot my own horn or anything,
but I'm really good at, like, sniffing people out.
And about a month and a half, two months ago,
I started calling him Diamond Hands Duval because he's such a prick.
And the moniker seems to have caught on.
But, yeah, okay.
How stupid do you have to be to believe that this guy put in $300,000?
His bag at one point was $2.3 million on a 5 million fully diluted valuation coin with like 400K in liquidity.
And he never sold any of it, even though he had overwhelming supply control, yet the
charts down 95%.
Yeah, man, that all makes sense.
If that makes sense to you, hit my DMs.
I got an amazing investment opportunity for you.
But that's what the P&L card said.
Are you saying he never sold?
Yeah, he's saying he never sold.
And he's like, I provided wallets.
I'm actually down 50K.
Yeah, buddy, we all believe you.
Never trust anybody that's never trust anybody i'm living
deja vu it's like groundhog's day the guy's fat as hell never trust a fatty yo it's so true
if you if you can't if you don't have the discipline to not fucking shovel food in your
mouth to the point in 300 pounds then you're not disciplined enough to tell the truth be honest why are you laughing when he says an alpha but i said the same shit earlier and you're
like whoa my 13 year old cousins are in here bro they should know that for their own health
wait i don't think it was don't be fat it was 2026 guys it was definitely something sexual
adam banger new pfp by the way oh my god okay yeah you like that crusades are coming back
baby so how do we i know i hope bro deuce vault nigga so how do we save the fucking trenches you
fucking when you say can we let this i have one last question for this fucking monkey and then
we're gonna keep it pushing but uh is there anybody bring back christ and kill everyone else that's how you say brother
bro i yeah praise christ 100 i am with you guys on that i'm actually about to go to church tonight
but bro you guys are being extremely fucking radical right now did you say this may why in
may not tomorrow bro listen on a more serious to a more serious point i i know adam was joking
but there's a marked shift and a temperature change change in the trenches whenever you started
seeing al humdallah thank allah for this opportunity and m4s and fucking fortnite kids
they're all muslim how do you say how do you save the trenches he? Orange is not Muslim. He's Spanish. Listen, there needs to be like, okay.
So I was joking a couple weeks ago that I would pay $1,000 a month for like segregation on Twitter in terms of like countries and languages.
But listen, but listen, but listen, listen, listen, listen.
If you can geofence a crypto app, I know there'd be a hang-up in providing location data.
Me, personally, I would do it.
I would geofence to the United States only.
They do that already with some of these blockchains and airdrops.
They do geofence sometimes.
Yeah, so why don't we leave out the UAE
everywhere in the Middle East, everywhere in Africa, everywhere
in South America, and maybe leave
Canada, Mexico,
the United States, and the UK.
Now that we own Venezuela, can we
include Venezuela?
I heard Greenland. Venezuela is our
vassal. We can do whatever we want with that
motherfucker. When I said the United
States, I was including Venezuela.
Yeah, no, that's what i
figured i just had to make sure i heard yeah dude trump is like greenland looks pretty good and
they're like that's an invasion maybe it is gloves are off trump is like and that guy for that guy
in columbia better watch his ass and i'm thinking, I can think of many Marines who would sign up to free the women of Colombia.
Did you see what he said about Greenland?
He said, did you hear what Greenland's done?
They're upping their security.
They've added one additional dog sled.
They thought that was security.
He's a fucking comedian.
One additional dog sled is crazy.
There's two types of countries.
Those who can defend itself and its resources
and its posterity and those who can't.
Don't cry.
Don't cry, whine, bitch, and complain whenever
a fucking
empire does empire shit.
So what I've gotten from this
fucking conversation is the world is
fucking cucked. Memecoins are a reflection
of the world being fucking cucked.
Yo, bro, I'm waiting for you guys to come airdrop us some fucking freedom and get this fucking asshole out of here.
Bro, all he's done is sell our gold reserves and fucking rape us financially the last fucking eight months, man.
It's been a fucking...
What are you talking about?
He's talking about us taking Canada. We don't really want it.
Yeah.
We'll take your water.
Guess what, Canada, I'm sure.
The water comes with us, and then you gotta get rid of the Indians for us.
Okay, okay.
Did you guys hear Mega ETH just got listed on Coinbase?
So just D-list Toronto, got it.
Mega ETH?
Okay.
Putting Bobby on fucking mute.
Bro, like like can you act
like you've fucking been here before
like that's the issue okay if you guys
are just joining us press that bottom right button like
comment retweet all of that is appreciated
if you guys did have anything you guys want us to check
out put it in the comment section if you did want
to come up and speak feel free to request we will
bring you guys up
to bro everybody up
here on stage right now.
Can I ask Isim a question?
Please, please, please, please.
Isim, you here?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
If you could make any type of app with vibe coding,
what app would you make right now?
Two apps.
First, one for like only fan motivation.
So after post not, you know, when you not, you got the post not. First one for like OnlyFan motivation.
So after post not, you know, when you not, you got the post not and every man after post not, you're like, fuck, what the fuck did I did?
And you feel the press and shit.
And it's like motivation.
OnlyFan just after that.
I never fucked.
So like post not affirmation.
I don't have any of those feelings after my life.
Wait, get to the second app. I you can't get to the second app.
I'm going to get to the second app.
No, go, go, go.
Yeah, that's first app.
That's like anti-only fan motivational shit.
Maybe it might work.
And I have Top G be like the fucking speech or whatever it is.
And the second app is something like, I don't even know.
I swear to God.
I will say it. I see the need for two.
No, I gatekeep.
I gatekeep.
I gatekeep.
Unironically,
I swear to God,
I'm not even joking.
If any crypto streamer
can break into the mainstream,
unironically,
I think Iceeem has the greatest shot.
He is Gen Alpha's Borat.
I totally see it.
Have you not seen Young jazz like bro jazz has
low yeah jazz is cool but like i'm talking about jazz is my friend motherfucker alpha
you you're not doing beef i'm not trying to instigate or anything or you know start a little
bit of you know some some competition but i mean if we're gonna put it out no listen listen listen
listen he's just jealous
that if you was in a headline it would have to do with a kindergarten in fucking minnesota
so you're you're good i say no so like shut the fuck up adam shut the fuck up for two minutes
we're not having that shit it's 2020 fucking six we are different fucking people uh i'm gonna send
you a strongly word fucking text yeah Yeah, we're way worse.
It's going to get way fucking worse this year.
It's going to get so much worse. Trust me.
Racism is going to hit an all-time high by, like, end of year.
But, like, so...
Whoa, whoa, I'm not racist.
An all-time high, Jonah.
An all-time high?
We will do everything in this space.
Maybe not an all-time high.
Listen, listen, listen.
No, no, no, listen.
This is my thought, okay?
It was a local top in, Listen, listen, listen. No, no, no, listen. This is my thought, okay? It was a local top in
like 1947, and we've been in
like a 65-70 year bear market
consolidation period.
We will do everything
in this space to combat...
New vibe-coded app we're doing.
We are doing everything in this space
to combat racism. We don't care
what your background is, what
your sexuality is, what your gender is, what your religion is what your sexuality is what your gender is what
your religion is if i missed any i'm sorry uh sexuality has to do with racism he's just covering
all the bases yeah i'm not trying to cancel the height height yeah your height i mean yeah we
welcome you all here it doesn't matter what your background is we love everybody every
single fucking human being we're all the same in the inside and that is what genuinely fucking
matters i i everybody gg everybody up here is low-key a brand risk so if we unmute it it's
actually like i i i think um it's the risk that we take every day.
Every day we open this up.
They're all brand risks.
Like, I cannot...
Let's see who's the riskiest.
I think Kuro's low-key the least risky out of all of them.
But he doesn't have his hand up.
I think it might be icing.
He was talking about fucking founders in the space doing drugs and pissing on clavicular.
He's pushing pee.
He's pushing pee.
Oh, God.
It's up to you.
You pick.
I've lost it all.
You pick.
I pick the unmute button.
Okay.
No, I mean like the hand.
Alpha.
Alpha.
That whole rant slaps so potent with the Karen hair.
Like when you got the Karen hair with those bars, like that was poetic.
Bobby, I have an idea.
Beautiful.
By the way, Alpha, I care about all those things.
It's amazing.
People on all those things.
Bobby, Bobby, I have an idea for you.
You should use vibe coding to build perps
on N2, and it's just
racism sentiment charts.
Let's just be honest.
What kind of brand risk is it if Toshi
bets the only person who pays you?
I mean, that is true.
Toshi, are you going to drop him if he's racist?
Because I don't think so.
Bro!
We literally would get cancelled if we dropped off a code we need off a code
guys i've seen dude you're like the affirmative alpha's the token bro okay okay okay okay we're
we're going back what does he mean by that what does that mean i i don't know what they mean by
that but i do not holy shit like this is yeah toshi would probably kind of
like when the eagle signed my thing the ticker is alpha go okay we're not turning bro toshi you're
supposed to say no bro when you have a black guy who wears crop tops you can literally do whatever
you want i'm muting him i'm genuinely fucking muting him i box tops first uh and toshi you
did see that already like bro, bro, we were literally
face to fucking face for...
I asked him if he's ever gonna wear
it again. He said, no, I'm never
gonna wear that shirt again. Oh, I'm 100%.
Bro, vengeance fucking
box top is actually so fun. Oh, he's
wearing it right now.
I'm pretty sure if you
want that category, then you should just sponsor
Frank Ocean.
Oh my god okay
Toshi
I'm not sure about that lately
to be honest
Toshi can't you just be like we welcome everybody
of all backgrounds and we love
we do welcome everybody of all backgrounds
I literally don't care who you are
how Toshi explains that in the background
like in person he says everyone's money's green even if they're a fag okay bro i have never in
my life said that in person okay yeah why did you say in person holy shit unfortunately toshi is not
racist bro i never got a deal in my life and they took me. Imagine they take a, like, looking ass like me, bro.
Like, I swear, bro.
Even in Abu Dhabi, bro, they like me and they was racist.
I see.
Unironically, your next video should be you going to Minnesota and interviewing Somalians
because they would never expect you to be a reporter.
Fucking do it.
Oh, he's one of us.
I swear I'm going to do it.
That's it.
That's it.
I'm going to do it.
I swear to God, dude.
Wait, I have a lot of views to do it. That's it. That's it. I'm going to do it. I swear to God, dude. Wait, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
For Toshi.
Toshi, if Jazz was like, I want to go to fucking Minnesota and start interviewing people.
See, look at this fucking dumbass.
Jonah gives an idea and he goes, oh, I think Jazz will be better.
Ask the question, Afako.
Or if Jazz and Ice Team wanted to partner up, go to Minnesota and start interviewing people, would you
make sure you're funny?
It would be funnier if it was just Iceeem.
Jazz wanted to go.
Jazz is a six-foot fucking
white guy who looks normal.
Iceeem is literally Gen Alpha Borat.
Are we calling... Hold on, wait.
Are we calling aboriginals white now?
Is he a rabbit?
Oh my god.
Okay, we're going back.
Afrika,
can we just do a serious question or something?
What's going on, bro?
I see him on Fox News.
Serious question. How do you feel about the markets right now?
They're running right back up.
Please fucking save us. Please, brother.
How do you feel? Everything's running back up please fucking save us please brother like i do you have yeah
how do you feel uh everything's running back up shit's looking good uh what do you think the
future of crypto looks like yeah i mean i don't really have too much of an opinion on the markets
i don't participate so i'm gonna pass that on to Bobby. Oh the house always wins I do have a question. Um, I saw you added politics. Is that like prediction markets?
No, no, there's it's just a racism chat that Bobby runs at the company. That's not true. That is not true
Oh, did you guys actually get shit for?
Sponsoring beaver site
People are like this is hilarious this is genius well why didn't
we think of that damn that's fucking good what was the site somali scan basically it like scans how
much uh fraud is being committed by somalia it's a tracker yeah it's a tracker that tracks all how
is that racist bro like the motherfuckers are like literally out here just scamming scamming us because black people should be getting a reparation
Okay, shut the fuck up Bobby. Holy fuck
right
Breaking tech news actually
Oh, yes, bro. I pinned it at my bad bad brothers
Uh, let's please can you can we act like we've been here before like it's literally day two of us being back in spaces.
Second space of 2026.
And we're already going down that route.
Can we wait till Friday or Saturday fucking space?
Before, I don't know, people start acting a fucking fool.
In recorded fucking space.
Please?
This is all we're asking.
Anyone else buying Bitcoin puppets here?
Oh, God.
I'd rather buy a rope.
Also, ZCosta, you said something about my profile picture.
I know the dude with a fucking...
Bro, no, I just...
Dude, the Karen rant with the Karen hair.
I can't...
It is not 2023 anymore.
Wait, Alpha, are you still watching it?
Bro, if you took that hair and put it on any...
So the difference is Bobby's PFP is really chalant.
Yours is just kind of gay.
Yours looks very try-hardy.
You're trying to mog yourself in the mirror.
Bobby's just chalant.
So when you
meat ride, do you spit on it
first at him or do you just straight hop on his shit?
I'm usually just raw.
I get wet in the process
type of guy. Bro does a somersault
on it.
Speaking of BFBs,
Gigi,
do you have anything to say for yourself? What's going on?
She's playing Genshin Impact.
It's so hard
to find one.
Boo! What do you mean find one
you had one it was good
what you had was good what we had was good
you ruined it
by the way
Jack Duval had a position of 2.67 million
Bobby's giving me shit
for changing my
my retardo after years of wearing it
when he has like catapulted and capitulated to an emo anime.
I don't even know which anime that is.
Is that what you're saying?
You don't like my PFB.
It's so cute.
I like it a lot less because it doesn't further my financial interests.
I hear you.
I still have retardios.
But you started. Did you sell
your retardio, Gigi? No, of course not.
Can you still
sell them?
Are they that high?
Yeah, I don't know. Last time I checked.
Yeah, if you're holding NFTs,
I think you might as well just hold
at this point. i don't know that
there's a reason to sell i seem could you interview like a politician i i just i am i need more i see
i seem content like unironically i will bro i will i will really try my best because right now i'm
gonna leak it here and if steve hears me with the recording and if he's if he's in private i'm gonna
die i just can i just point something out? I literally have one month left.
Okay, thanks.
I'm going back to school
and my dad's going to fucking
eat my ass.
You go to school?
Listen, I just want to point,
I just want to point one thing out.
One thing real quick.
There's Jonah here
trying to shoehorn Iceem
and putting the battery in his back
to go get more viral
and keeps bringing him up.
I just want to remind you,
I just want to remind you
that Jonah's Jewish.
Dude. Who's Jewish? dude was josh not me jonah putting the battery in third worlders backs i can't help myself man it's in our blood like what do you want from me i mean i mean legit bro this space
is supposed to be about the future of fucking crypto and like how everybody can kind of like you know win like there's
opportunities in the market right now btc hit 94 fucking thousand dollars today we're talking
about putting batteries inside of fucking icing that's that's where we're at and it's bro it is
i don't know i i genuinely don't know like the future of crypto is looking pretty great it's looking green like i see green
candles everywhere and like i don't know you guys have lost the plot completely i think the
meme coins have fried your guys's brains fucking completely where i don't know it's just mean
don't mean recipe alpha yeah i heard a lot of people perish on nfts i've just like do you guys really not think when eath
goes back over 4 200 4 000 whatever that and we're not going to see nfts get a resurgence like
yes that's exactly yes with my entire house yes it's fucking retarded dude like i also think
i actually would put a probably a great side for that on it. For the record, I do not think that.
There's no reason to pump the old-
I think that thought is definitely retarded.
People-
Don't you think, Sikasa, don't you think part of NFT rush or the run was because people were stuck in their houses?
There were stimmies.
We thought NFTs were the future.
We thought NFTs were something that more than what they actually are.
So we need one more co-opend to get this all back.
I don't think all NFTs, right? something that more than what they actually are. So we need one more co-opend to get this all back.
I don't think all NFTs, right?
But I do think cap supply assets like that that have symbols and that have something
that binds people together
that are in a digital landscape
is something that is not going to go away.
A lot of us are collectors at heart.
We always have been.
There's an affinity that we have for it
just on a damn near spiritual level. So it not gonna be buy a pokemon card and download instagram
people people are doing that there's a lot of those fucking pokemon cards i like i just think
there's enough groups of people and you when you when it's when shit is pumping and there are ways
you know where dgens and spirit too right like you can do quite like if enough people participate and it's low
enough supply um i don't know i just feel like there's 10 000 people in this space but you can
also create community through meme coins you can do it through telegrams you can do it through
group chat so you don't just go outside and go to a bar yeah well i think the realization is most
the people this space attracted are losers so
no one wants to spend twenty thousand dollars on a picture to hang out with losers yeah
it seems like most of the people i'm tight with like we all like different things
i can't see i can't see somebody like finding out about meme coins and crypto and stuff today,
downloading a phantom wallet,
joining like following people on crypto on Twitter and thinking it's really cool to buy an NFT
and put it as a profile picture anymore.
I don't think that's going to happen again.
I could see someone being like,
dude, this dude retard mode is spitting bars for three, four, five weeks in a row.
He's helping me fucking make gains.
Like, how do I find a delicate JPEG
of a borderline fucking right on the line
female-male type shit picture
so I can just align with whatever the fuck he's cooking?
Like, I can see that, dog.
People say,
Yeah, I think NFTs are dead whoa wow that do it big chicago guy's fucking sick
i'm gonna spend 10 grand on a dog i think you guys have absolutely the dog would be the best
investment just some pros nft i think nfts can be great like the thing is like we've always treated them as like these financial
fucking tools where we're waiting for them to appreciate in value or go down in value and like
our sentiment is tied to whatever the price is doing for the fucking day but like we've had a
little bit of a reset the last couple years where people aren't really paying attention to fucking
price points they're still looking for these fucking communities the main reason nfts even ran in the fucking first place was because of
defy summer people made an insane amount of money and wanted to connect with these people that they
also that also made an insane amount of money uh in the space and wanted like these assets for
these fucking communities and like that's something that's yet to happen in this fucking space where like people have had this giant uh wealth uh accumulation opportunity
where they're able to make insane amounts of money and like find other like-minded people
but i think at the end of the day it's i don't know to each their own i think we're like looking
at it from a weird 2021 fucking perspective of just like oh yeah nfts are going to come back like it's
not going to come back probably in the same way everybody expects it where we see board apes
back up to 500 fucking thousand dollars but like i think the reality of it bro there's there's more
to these nfts than just fucking price go up or fucking down or all these other things so
i mean to each they're on but we got some hands up i did want to tap into real quick uh we'll go c casa and then we'll go to
todd but what's what's good c casa yeah to that point i definitely agree that it's not going to
be the same but to think that um i just i just don't think it's going away when you have the ability to tie access to
the tokens where you can uh you know you you can open up doors you can you can token gate shit and
that's going to continue to evolve um with you know the the types of spaces and and uh you know
access points that you can unlock i do think there's actual measurable value that can be scaled with that.
It's not going to be the same.
It's not going to be like the hype,
but Blur came and raped everybody
the same way Pump Fund came and raped the soul out of memes.
But I do feel nature is healing.
And I think that there are the ones
that are tethered to the roots
that are going to survive that
and will probably be the beneficiaries.
It won't be as, the magnitude won't be as ridiculous,
but I do think it'll be
significant i do agree and i i'm like the thing is like these are like none of us can tell the
future which is like a huge thing too but uh like i'm optimistic i think there is a future where i
can see that actually happening so i don't know looking it. Also, we got Todd and then we'll go. Kevin, but what's good, Todd?
Healthy, happy new year. All that kind of good stuff.
You know, it's interesting. As far as this, I was listening earlier, but I didn't realize I was on anonymous, so I wasn't showing up in the room. My apologies.
But I heard a couple of people say a few things. You know, Gigi was making a point about stimmies and COVID and so on and so forth. And as far as NFTs specifically go, you know, listen, I don't believe it's the end for NFTs and, you know, there's never, they're never going to, to some extent, come back in one form or another, though, to a large extent, actually, I do believe it's over for NFTs, but I don't want to make that case today that you know test case i think you know we've talked in the past some are going to be very very
important i think historically you know and you guys know i'm in the sort of the trad or you know
largely in the sort of irl art world but i you know like for instance we spoke about crypto punks
in the past i think that's an important inflection point for digital art in general and i think
crypto point pununks in terms
of the broader NFT space will always be for me like a historical demarcation point. And I think
serious collectors of digital art will want to potentially own a CryptoPunks in their collection
if they are assembling a collection, for instance, of digital art going back to the 1970s at least.
But Gigi's point is really important. You guys
talk about community and it's the access points it provides and so on and so forth.
And the real issue is that NFTs and the whole community thing particularly, or I should say
specifically, pumped because during COVID, you couldn't have a community IRL because everybody was very scared
about was, you know, to a large, lesser or more extent in terms of what was going on in the real
world. And people were fundamentally just in their houses, on their phones, uh, on their computers.
And that's where their community was. But recently, and you, uh, Alpha, a couple of you guys know,
I lived part of the time on the East coast, part of the time in Vegas, which is where I am speaking to you from now.
There was a big card show here.
Now I don't collect cards, but I went with my friend, Ralph DeLuca.
Ralph is the, uh, senior vice chairman at Sotheby's in charge of the entire collectibles
department, everything, movie props, uh, you know, um, and, and related ephemera,
uh, sports memorabilia, you know, anything related to what we would call collectibles,
right? Not the fine art world. Ralph's speciality is, is collectibles. Um, and he's been at Sotheby's
for the last year. They recently like just sold, like say the Superman suit, you know,
that was worn by Chris Reeves and Superman, you know, so everything from that to cards to, you know, jerseys to, you know, anything related to that sort of stuff. And,
um, um, so I went with him to this card show here and we walked around and, you know, it's,
it was interesting to see everybody trading and, you know, comparing and exchanging and
sharing information, very community. That's the word I would use super community based.
And I was thinking of you guys, Alpha and Gigi and stuff. And I was asking people while I was and sharing information, very community. That's the word I would use, super community-based.
And I was thinking of you guys, Alpha and Gigi and stuff. And I was asking people while I was there standing at the tables with Ralph, watching some of these very young, to me, kids, 13, 14, 15,
16 years old, actively trading in a very detailed, oriented these were people who these young kids were very,
very aware of value and price and, and recent comps and, you know, super interesting to see
how detailed they were. And I asked some of them about, you know, NFTs and meme coins and crypto
and, you know, what they thought about it. And is it something that they're involved in or
interested in and the concept of community and stuff. And like almost more or less, all the answers are like, I have my community in real life. I mean,
this is my community. I'm hanging out. I'm talking with people. We're exchanging ideas.
We talk to each other on the phone. We talk to each other on the computer. We're texting
all the time. Fundamentally is really how they're most in touch. And nobody, you know,
it's not that people were poo-pooing these ideas, but the fundamental
concept of community is like IRL, touch grass, see another person's face, speak with them
directly kind of dynamic.
So I'm not really sure that I think NFTs functionally burgeoned because of what Gigi was talking
about, that basically people were trapped
in their own little skull-sized kingdoms inside their houses during a time when everybody was
like a little bit scared. Plus the whole point of the, you know, there was a lot of, you know,
financial stimulation being poured out by the government. These two things happened to overlap
and create a perfect storm. And that's what caused that thing fundamentally at the end of the day.
So is it going to go to zero? No. Do I think some of it, very narrow points of it are important
historically? Yeah. Do I think it's ever remotely going to come back to the level where it was?
Not unless there's some catalytic event that causes that to happen again.
You know, if there is, then maybe.
But being where we are now in the current environment, let's say, let's just say for
2026, banks are very stable. Credit is very stable. Stock market had a great year last year.
Crypto's had a bumpy ride. Unsurprisingly, as a lot of people have, you know, seem to feel that Bitcoin and other, you know, major coins at least have reached a kind of a maturation level. Now it's not kid stuff
anymore, you know, kind of thing. It's, it's, it's, so it's, it's a much more balanced thing.
And people aren't looking for the same kind of gains that they got five years ago in these
spaces because, you know, things have become a lot more centralized and a lot more professionalized and a
lot more corporatized, particularly look at BTC and its ETFs and everything that's happening with
that and its acceptance in that manner by the government. And once that happens, you're not
going to see those kind of wild swings that you saw, you know, at an earlier time when it was
literally like the Wild West or the last days of the roman empire you know kind of attitude so i don't know i expect nfts to be very dull for the most part in terms of the
market and and you know i don't see them coming back the way that they did at least
what about the rest of it like has there been any genuine interest in altcoins or meme coins or,
I don't know, other aspects of the space?
I don't know. It's really interesting because when I come into this room, there's so much,
and I'm here kind of regularly, if not as a speaker listener, to be sure, because you guys
are awesome. When I come here, it's like, oh, there's all this activity. There's so much happening. There's lots to talk about daily
updates. Let's go, let's get the rundown. You know, it's, it's like very interesting and,
and, and lots of, you know, it's hundreds of people here every day talking and exchanging
ideas and stuff. But then when I get out of this space and I go out into the real world,
it's like, nobody remotely knows what any of this shit is at all. Never heard of it.
Doesn't know about it, which is not to knock anybody here.
I'm just saying, you know, like there's being in this space and you feel like you're at
the center of like the burning universe of creation.
And then you go out into the real world and it's like, I don't think anybody understands
or knows about any of this stuff really pretty much at all, except a very tiny sliver of
what is already a small sliver of people who are
highly interested in you know crypto-based currencies and all their um various derivatives
that makes sense i i don't know at least to me it just shows that there's a lot more room for us
to potentially grow like where we can take mindshare back again but i mean other people
will probably look at it a little different where people are kind of because a lot of people did play
nfts a lot of people did play meme coins in this space whether it was through the trump coin launch
or pump fun or a lot of these different things and i don't know it's kind of the the entire game has kind of shifted from community and building
to what it is kind of now where it's just like okay we do have like assets or vehicles where
people can kind of come together and become a community but like you don't need these assets
to to to be in a community or find other
like-minded individuals. But I don't know. I'm still optimistic. Another thing that's really
interesting, and I don't know if others in this room have experienced it, but like, let's say
three years, four years ago, two years ago, coming into it, like, like you would go to Twitter,
right. And then you would go to spaces and then you would, you know, type in something like you
just wanted to hear a space. You type in meme coin or you type in, you know, whatever.
And then there'd be a list of spaces that were taking place.
Right.
And then you'd pick which space you wanted to go into.
I see a lot less of those spaces, period, overall.
And when I get into the spaces, and I'm not saying this to like rag on anybody.
So don't be too cross with me because Cause you guys were having your, uh, your whole, uh, equity, uh, piece a little bit
earlier in the room today, but like a lot of the, the majority of rooms I get into that
this room is unusual are in languages.
I don't understand.
And, you know, I'm not saying that like, as a bad thing, but I'm saying, I hear a lot
of, you know, African rooms talking about this kind of thing.
I hear sometimes rooms that are coming from the Middle East talking about a lot of these things,
you know, kind of thing. I don't see a lot of European rooms. I don't see a lot of American
rooms. Interestingly, with the same alacrity that I did three, four, five years ago, where there was
like, you know, it was like, you know, well, you know, you know that you remember the story. It was like a veritable sausage fest for like BAYC rooms and stuff like that.
Right. It was like nuts. Like there'd be a thousand people in the room all screaming at each other
about, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like nutty, right? None of that now, like zero. It's,
it's hard enough to even find rooms. I find on Twitter to find spaces where this stuff is being talked like with any
spoken about like you know can i can i say something to that because i do agree uh obviously
like spaces ever since leap retired like i think the quality of spaces by large is just like
just terrible like i mean alpha co is probably the best space host we got which like is you know is not a compliment to our industry by any
stretch of means
but I
will say you know Mr. Levin
I think a lot of people just got fucking wrecked
dude like the past
year I think because I know
financially you're speaking
so either
financially or like morally or both.
And yeah, I say that with a lot of confidence
because most of the people I've been trading alongside with
for the better part of three years now at this point.
A lot of those group chats, there's people who are just done.
Either they retired. Very few of those group chats, there's people who are just done. Either they retired,
very few of them retired because they
made enough money, but most of them,
they just blew up their
portfolios and don't want
to be reminded of the mistakes that they made,
so they don't even log on to this app or Telegram
or anything like that. I think there's a lot more
of those people than people
realize.
I just think the absurdity of
of like the space like the past few years like also drove away a lot of people because like you
know like when the nft like boom that's kind of like around the time i started like you know
popping up on twitter i was trading meme coins prior to that but i wasn't really on twitter
um when i saw the nft thing like you saw like a like a huge group of people who really thought this was some sort of future tech.
They thought real estate was going to be NFTs, everything's going to be on chain.
So they came here thinking they were doing good in the world.
And then they kind of just realized, oh, it's all just a Ponzi.
The whole thing is a giant Ponzi.
The sense of community, that never really was a
thing that was only a thing like when the price is going up and then when the price stopped going up
they realized like you know they maybe they felt kind of embarrassed by being a grown man in their
40s acting like an ape in a bored ape yacht club you know twitter space as they're you know doing
blackface or whatever they're doing to like dress up and cosplay to look like an ape like it got weird man like nfts got really weird and i think like a lot of people
joined thinking they like either like they were like pseudo-intellectual of some sort or they
thought they were like artists or like they thought it was like a lot more of like you know
like sense of like artistry and creation and they realized like the whole thing is just a ponzi which
it is and it always has been and like that's why like i didn't leave
because i was like oh wow like everyone is like finally sobering up to like what i already knew
and that's why i loved um when like the whole like meta narrative change from nfts to meme coins
um because i was like this is a way way it's just more honest in a lot of ways
has anybody checked in on that guy who sold his kidney to buy a board?
I think he died of kidney failure.
Yeah.
Not even joking.
Yeah,
man.
I thought,
I thought it was fine.
You're okay.
Alpha.
Aren't you?
You still have one kidney.
I have both my fucking kidneys.
Are you sure?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Cause when you were wearing that crop top and you raised your arms up,
I saw a scar on your left side.
And I was wondering what that was about.
And I don't think it was appendix.
I don't think it was from appendicitis.
Yeah, I did have appendicitis, actually.
Fuck, yeah.
I'm kidding.
But K-Money did bring up a solid point.
A lot of people did either get financially fucking ruined
or just spiritually fucking willing like a lot of i don't know from what i've seen we've we've had
some great fucking space hosts 100% we have okay like for context like because you guys like i'm
not a stranger to like anyone on this stage like anyone listening you've heard my annoying monotone
ass voice like almost daily at this
point. So I'm not a stranger, right? But if I look at my screen time on my phone, I'm logging in
four to five hours between both Telegram and X combined. Like the past three or four years of my life, like just my ex usage was like around 16 to 18 hours a day consistently
every fucking day for years.
So like if me, somebody who's still here full time,
who's still trading, you know, still sexy,
like, you know, I got like a great personality,
like, you know, all that good stuff.
Like I'm logging in like, you know,
80% less hours onto like this app or talking or being social on this app.
And I'm still here consistently, like, full time.
So, like, you can only imagine all the people who are here kind of passively or, like, as, like, you know, like, a part-time or, like, a hobby or, like, a tourist.
Like, they're yeah i think he like cut out for a second but i was
gonna ask him like don't i still think crypto twitter telegram like all these apps that we
do have like give us an edge uh compared to like other people who are coming from outside the space
so i mean i personally had great insight they're awful well done twitter and telegram and being up to date with the markets gives you an edge
now maybe if you would have gave me three days beforehand during my last post and then we could
have fantastic absolutely but it does it genuinely does one of the main reasons people were able to
print a significant amount of money on trump was because we had X, was because people were, there were people who were chronically online on this fucking app.
I saw it and I was like, oh shit, like let's tap in or let's see what the hell the thing is.
Yes, Gigi did hold me at gunpoint to tap into that damn token, but I don't know, the opportunities are still there.
Like a lot of these blockchains, L1s or whatever that are kind of coming out,
even nowadays, I would not know what the fuck they are without X or without a lot of this app or just being able to like, like come together with a bunch of people who are like-minded and
looking for the next thing in the space and taking advantage of the next opportunity. So,
I mean, it is what it is. it's a tool just like anything else just like
well the point is is what you're describing totally makes sense to me in every way totally
makes sense the difference is that at an earlier you know it's that there's that old saying on you
know Wall Street well they have a lot of sayings bulls and bears blah blah blah but there's an old
saying you know they call it this and not show friends and as long as you understand that you
know you're involved in a business relationship,
this isn't like a friends community.
You are all working together because it's working in your best interests at that time,
mostly from a financial perspective, you know, to grow your bags.
And there's nothing the matter with that.
Yeah.
None of you guys are my friends.
Or even, you know, nothing bad about that.
But you got to be clear what the motivations are in the first place and what the involvement is.
And I think earlier on, people were confused.
They literally thought it was show friends.
And it's never been show friends.
And that's not a bad thing.
It's just people thought it was one thing and it was actually simply another thing.
Now I think people are a little bit more clearer about the difference i think there are understanding you
know you can meet good friends doesn't mean there are good people a hundred yeah well i i i i i meet
good people in the art world and i meet good people on wall street too i'm not saying like
that doesn't happen but fundamentally the initial thing that's binding you together that's bringing
everybody into the space you know kind of thing
and it's fine it's not a negative it's just an observation no more is that you know that's why
they call it you know show business and not show friends fundamentally and then if you happen to
meet somebody you have a great relationship with them and like i'm not judging your gender
preferences or sexuality alpha in any way you know i mean you should love who you love and be free to do what you want
with whom you want to do it.
Wait, you can fuck people?
That's great.
Hey, Bobby, you trying to fuck, bro?
I was about to say, I didn't know you could fuck these people.
I would have moved on Kevin years ago.
Dude, same, bro.
I think you guys both had the same thought.
I know. Instantly, dude. I was like like now that now that it's not taboo you know like let's like what if you
and me you know get aids okay money before dude you really you like stepped away for like a second
uh i was gonna ask you like don't you think being on x or telegram like gives us the biggest edge
even new participants who are coming into the fucking space like that is one of the biggest edges we have in fucking crypto catching wait sorry i wasn't
listening i heard edging and i'm down okay no yeah uh yeah i i think i think being on twitter
and telegram obviously still has like an edge like especially if the comparison is not being
on it and not knowing anything but it's also a huge disadvantage for like people who don't know better.
But it's one of those things
where it just kind of takes time and experience
in order for you to realize like who is like,
you know, like how to,
I guess like filter out the signals that you get.
Because like a lot of people, you know,
I think like there's quite a handful of people
that like just use people as like exiliquity
and have like bad intentions and shit. And unfortunately unfortunately like most people kind of fall victim to that until
like they learn better but i mean yeah i i do agree with what mr levin art group is saying
about like you know it's it's show business not show friends uh because man i fucking i can't
stand you guys dude other than bobby who like
i i love yeah i fucking i like just seeing fucking you know scody with his hand up bro
like oh my god dude the things the amount of terrorism that flashes behind my eyes
um no but wait where are you i don't know actually i'm just like i'm kind of
no what are we talking about?
I've heard Scotty in this space.
He is out of control.
Out of control.
Why don't you call on him already and let him talk?
No, no.
Because, like, Alpha was just talking about edging.
So I think this is, like...
Like, Scotty's into this.
And we don't kink shame here.
He technically was not talking about edging.
He was talking about gooning.
Okay.
Different thing.
Yeah. Bro, you guys are supposed to be the faces. Technically was not talking about edging. He was talking about gooning. Different thing.
Bro, you guys are supposed to be the faces.
K Money is one of the, and even Bobby,
one of the faces of fucking meme coins.
Todd, you're supposed to be the face of traditional fucking art in this world.
Are you the face of bad takes?
Because this is one of them.
No, I don't know, man.
But yeah, I guess TLDRdr for anyone listening to this space um yeah i'm gonna put my my hand up now so i'm in you know i'm empowered with scody
see we're doing it together now everybody should put their hands it's like you and scody are like
holding hands and i'm in the middle. Everybody, everybody put their hands up.
See? The hands are going up now.
See? Everybody.
This feels just like the Bored Ape Space Days.
I feel at home.
Yeah, this is PTSD. Why does Chicago have Alpha's PFP?
I think Alpha had Chicago's
PFP.
Who wore it better?
What anime is that from? Because that shit looks gay
as fuck. I don't know. If you have that from? Because that shit looks gay as fuck.
I don't know.
If you have to ask why he's got that.
I just wanted to show you don't have to spend any money
to join a community and support someone.
Al was Loki a big help.
We have to go to Scotty,
but it was a big help over the fucking weekend.
Copping fucking tickets, so shout out my boy.
But what's good, Scotty?
You didn't even listen to me, bro.
You didn't even bought something else entirely.
Yeah, I bought new tickets because they were fucking closer.
If you would have just not bet the way you did over the last three weeks and listened to me collectively,
you'd be up an extra four Gs.
Yeah, but where's the fun in that, to be honest?
I told you. the offer on jake
paul was simple just send me half of what you're gonna lose i'll call you a loser in dms and then
you can yeah but like wasn't that like a 20 game well yeah because like if any of us are going to
be victory lapping around alpha i like i i have a 2000 actually a a 20 000000% gain. I like to flex on Alpha if that's what we're doing.
Bro, we can go.
No, no gains.
I was just telling him when he bests Jake Paul that he should just give me half the money.
I'll call him a loser, and he'll save half his money.
Yo, Alpha, how about you FaceTime me when the space is over and we go inch for inch, nigga?
That laughing emoji was not for fucking him yeah why did you laugh at that alpha
no because i i didn't know where he's gonna fucking go with that at first uh and then there's
like a delay hey scotty you have your hand up please fucking say i had a question for todd
which like 20 minutes ago would have been topical but now it's completely off topic so let's just
i'll no i'll answer it for you.
I think, yes, it's fine to continue
to do a meme coin related room,
but Alpha would maybe make more money with
OnlyFans at this point. There's your answer.
What the fuck are we talking about here?
I've been in here for like three minutes.
Totally unrelated to what I was going to ask, but I agree
with your assessment. We were talking about the future
of fucking finance. That's what we're talking
about. The future of... We got to here yeah it's only fans yeah only fans is what we're all pivoting
to very soon uh okay what are they doing it uh what are they doing at tge we're so cut did you
see uh the majority of the uh extraordinary artist exception visas are being issued to influencers, specifically OnlyFans models.
Yeah, they're exceptional, man.
Wait, are you being deadass?
Yeah.
No, for real, for real. No, it's true. It was just in the New York Times, I think I saw it, actually. There was an article.
We need more Indians and more OnlyFans models.
What the? The first question I had was,
who's in charge of that,
and what the heck is his ethnicity?
Okay, let's go back to the crypto conversation that we were just about to have.
National Endowment for the Arts.
Oh my god, you should start a scan for that, Bobby.
I think that one wouldn't be as accepted on Twitter
as Somali scan.
We'll just say that.
Oh my god.
We need to have a track Apex account, but for people that have spent money on new fans.
Okay.
We're here to talk about the future of fucking crypto.
Also, if you guys are just joining us, press that bottom right button, my comment, retweet, all of that is appreciated.
If you guys did have anything you guys want us to check out,
put it in the comment section.
If you did want to come up and speak, feel free to request.
We will bring you guys up.
Also, anything said by anybody else, it is not a representative of us.
They are representing them fucking selves before we start fucking getting DMs for some of this stupid shit.
I want to space.
You want GG, Luke?
Damn. We're all going to space. You want GG. Yeah.
We're all going to make it, Alpha.
Wag me.
Yeah, should we play some pump it up
and start oohing and aahing?
I will leave.
But, I don't know.
We'll see.
What's good?
We got profits up here, too.
It's good profits.
Okay. Yeah, solid. CD, capital, what's good? How are you feeling about the markets?
Like, just the macro or what?
Just everything in general, where we're at right now.
Still just general uncertainty, and I think that anyone that claims to know exactly what's going to happen is either lying
to you or fucking retarded or both.
I think that everyone is, there's still a lot of like pending things going on geopolitically
that has a lot of people on edge in terms of how it's going to impact the
international financial markets and whatnot. So it seems like everyone...
Can you give us specific examples that you're kind of looking at?
Sure. I mean, so there's a lot of speculation on the most recent Venezuela happening in the U.S. like acquiring all their oil and how
that's going to be, you know, lowering like gas prices here and whatnot. But like what a lot of
people don't know is that the crude oil that comes from Venezuela is very, very heavy and it requires
a lot of heavy refining, which we don't really have a whole
lot of infrastructure built up for in the U.S. So people think that like we're just going to
magically take this crude oil from Venezuela and automatically be like be able to, you know,
turn it around for economic gains in the U.S. And that's just like not necessarily the case in practice. There's also a lot of speculation on whether or not the amount of Bitcoin that Venezuela has accumulated over a couple of years, which is pretty significant, is going to fall under US US custody eventually or if that's going to stay
in Venezuelan property
But I mean yeah, that's just like two examples off the top of my head
The oil thing is pretty massive though because a lot of people that's that's where a lot of the speculation
for like international markets is coming from like the you know the oil markets and oil futures and stuff like that.
People think that it's just going to magically solve all of our energy cost problems in the U.S.
because we're going to be able to just magically take these barrels from Venezuela
Venezuela and automatically be able to use them in the US but people don't understand that the
and automatically be able to use them in the U.S.
the quality of crude oil that comes from Venezuela requires extensive refining and
we just don't have we don't have that kind of infrastructure built up in the US yet which
takes hundreds of you know millions potentially billions of dollars to do but anyways that's not that's not why the
oil that's not why the oil is important that's like a low-level discussion you see going on on
like twitter and like mainstream media i guess everyone knows the oil is like extremely sour
and heavy we don't need the oil china buys over 85 percent of v's oil supply. If China doesn't have their oil, they can't invade Taiwan.
I think there's a reason why the markets are reacting to us getting into Venezuela positively.
And I think that only continues.
It is a multifaceted discussion.
It's not just like, and I'm well aware of all the further implications that you
just mentioned as well but it's not that's that is like you know what you said that's kind of like
the entry level of understanding from a lot of people um but yeah i mean there's there's a lot
of domino effects that the venezuelan um if you want to call it an invasion, you know, kind of has.
Yeah, I don't see anybody talking about like the deeper geopolitical impacts of Venezuela.
I think it was at least short to medium term death blow to BRICS.
Right. Yeah, the BRICS impact is like where a lot of people jump to.
Yeah, the BRICS impact is where a lot of people jump to.
But, I mean, mentioning Taiwan, there's a reason why we're strategically trying to bring chip manufacturing back to the United States as well,
because we don't want to be dependent on whether or not China is going to take back Taiwan or not. Like that's, that is just a,
a pretty big weak point for, um, U S foreign policy, because obviously we are extremely
reliant on Taiwan and their chip manufacturing. So that's a, that's a pretty big chink in the
armor, but that's why we've been, you know, having discussions at pretty high levels in this country of bringing chip manufacturing back to our shores instead of having to rely on China being nice.
You said it was a what in the armor?
Yeah, right. It's a chink in the armor.
Do you guys remember when that guy from ESPN did that to Jeremy Lin whenever he had a bad game?
He said they found his chink in the armor and he got fired.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
I don't remember that. That's crazy.
Yeah.
They just kept baiting him into saying the word chink and he got fired.
Everyone was menstruating that year.
I got younger cousins who were listening to this space.
Also, Lin Sanity was a great fucking era demonstrating that year i got younger cousins were listening to the space also lynn sanity was
a great fucking arrow for anybody who's around during basketball holy shit jeremy lynn was
fucking cooking uh i don't even know where the conversation kind of went well also in terms of
just want to say in terms of the broader financial markets like just say 2026 as i said earlier you
know banks right now in
the U S are very stable. Credit is very stable worldwide at the current moment. So, and it has
been for a while, even with the dip that happened mid-year with the, you know, the tariff announcement
and then stock market tumbling was at 19% before it came back 37% from that April, whatever it was
seventh, eighth, ninth around that, you know, all the way back to the end of the year where we wound up, whatever it was, 12 or so percent in SPY and 16% in NASDAQ,
with Google outperforming everything, like 60% up this year. But none of that has to do with any of
this. Oh yeah. At this point, the banks are actually in a very, you know, major banks in
the United States. Absolutely.
They're very stable.
They have plenty of cash, so to speak, in the bank to cover any, you know, sudden issues.
Credit is very elastic right now.
You know, and it's been that way for quite a while.
There's certainly no danger signs or red lights with regards to credit, which is the whole
thing that lubricates the entire banking system and therefore our financial economy, as we found out in 07, 08, 09, when there was almost a
total seizing up of liquidity and credit due to the AIG, Lehman, Great Recession, CDO,
so on and so forth situation where all that almost seized up. So yeah, right now things
are great. I mean, not great. Things are in a very fine place and have been for a while.
Like $40 billion in emergency liquidity to save a bank though?
40. Yeah. Yeah. But, but that's, you know, the, the, the United States, post 07, 08 AIG Lehman put on a very draconian
series of tests, of case tests for all the major banks post, you know, what happened
to AIG Lehman.
And every year they go in and they stress test those banks.
And it's very draconian, to be quite honest.
And, you know, the banks that can't meet those requirements are quietly go away.
But we're talking about the largest banks that chases the Citigroup, so on, you know,
the major banks that cover the bulk of the American and to a lesser extent, you know,
European economy at this point are quite, you know, are quite stable. And, you know, so yeah,
they really are. When you look at the, you know, the balance sheets of those banks and that's why
the banking stocks themselves have been pretty, you know pretty unmoving, pretty brick-like over the last year.
So, yeah, right now, those things are quite stable.
I think if you talk to anybody on Wall Street, the basic metric would be, yeah, these things are just fine at the moment, and we don't see any immediate catalysts that would change that.
I'm not saying something couldn't happen. Of course, anything can happen. We had COVID.
Anything can happen. But right now, where things stand, if 2026 doesn't have an exceptional case
like that, I wouldn't expect things to change significantly. But the real thing that can
change the market like a bullet train in 2026. And we talked about in the room
is, you know, the whole case of AI CapEx. Now that could fuck up the economy in a significant way.
And in a, in a very detrimental way, if, if those investing suddenly decide that,
you know, we're, we're, we're past the white paper phase and we need to start to see
some of what we've invested come to fruition. We'd like to see some results here. Right now, people aren't like so results heavy.
They just want to get involved. They want to be invested. And the CapEx investment in the last
year, 2025, was essentially the single thing responsible by about 90% to 95% for the entire US GDP growth. US GDP last year was whatever it was, growth was
500 billion plus something, 550, whatever it was, which sounds great. That sounds impressive.
But you got to realize over 400 billion of that was CapEx expenditure into AI.
If you take that money out, basically there was no GDP growth. And if that suddenly disappears for whatever reason, people just don't want to put in any
more at the moment.
They want to wait to see for results.
They want to see how things shake out, whatever it could be.
And, you know, it becomes a rolling thing.
First, a couple people do it and then a couple people follow them and then it starts to circle
the...
Then you've got a serious fucking problem.
That's a problem.
Venezuela, not so much. Their problem venezuela not so much uh their bitcoin
and oil not so much ai cap x in the united states and and how that's basically the fundamental
driver of the gdp that could have a huge fucking knock-on effect into the u.s economy so if you're
praying for anything you pray that ai stays stable and uh you know, people continue at some level that, you know,
the, the, the, the major players to see that that CapEx investment is still a wise place
to put their money.
Cause it's one of the best places for them to get a solid return at the end of the day,
regardless of what their timeframe is for that return.
So that's, that's really where everything rests right now.
And now that they're starting to borrow and leverage to get into AI, that's where it's getting scary.
And that's a recent thing.
Yeah, I mean, that ties into the AI moratorium that was outlined at the...
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
So two different things, but related.
Yes, the answer is yes, fundamentally. So
I think if you're looking at your coins or your meme coins or Bitcoin or whatever you're invested
in, and you believe that to some way or another, some of that stuff kind of tags along, even if
it's in a, not a completely 100% related manner, but there's some relationship between the two,
it might be a
delayed relationship if you're hoping that things go good this year you're fundamentally making a
prayer right now that ai capex investment stays solid that's what your prayer is
it is it is really kind of uh i mean it's not concerning or good yet, but I mean, it's a very, it's really hard to understate just how much AI contribution to the GDP of the U.S. has been in the past year or two.
Well, like I say, the numbers are there for anybody to go out and get.
It's very, very simple. You can source the numbers in a very correct,
realistic, non-bullshitty way. And then you can source the amount of CapEx investment that's been made into AI in the same manner. And you can contrast and compare the two and you can see
exactly what's happening. And I'm hardly the only person who understands this. It's not like I'm
seeing some secret Masonic Illuminati version of something. This is, if you go onto a good podcast
like Steve Eisman's podcast, best known from the, you know, the movie, The Big Short, you know,
the character played by Steve Carell. He talks about this and he's one of the four guys, you
know, who called the entire CDO swap dynamic and made the big bet against it. He's very,
very clear about this relationship between the GDP and AI CapEx investment against it, he's very, very clear about this relationship
between the GDP and AI CapEx investment
and is heavily invested in AI,
but is also casting a very watchful eye over this,
as am I at this point.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I'm still kind of skeptical
about seeing those people that were involved
in the shorting the housing market
and using them as a god oracle of what's going on in the markets.
Michael Burry, obviously he got a huge payout for his bet against the housing market,
but ever since then his track record has not been great.
So, I mean, it's best to look at these people
on an individual trade opinion versus outcome
rather than just their legacy of being involved
in shorting the housing market prior 07, 08 no bad uh what's good uh adam you got your hand up what's good
i was gonna ask you how long i've been up here because i just hammered six hard-boiled eggs and
i think in record time but then uh a lot of time passed and i think you
were i was also curious what you were doing during that entire segment because i know your
ass is not paying attention i was actually paying attention yeah maybe 30 seconds to rest the room
i don't know what he's talking about i'm always paying attention i'm the caEx and AI actually a 15 second fucking pause
did you chew
or did you just
straight raw dog
those eggs
I was hammering
you know that guy
that eats the shit
on the plane
he like kisses that shit
and then he like
eats weird shit
on the plane
that's like me
with those eggs
is that gonna go
holy shit
wait what
you kiss it
before you eat it
uh huh wow nice Wait, what? You kiss it before you eat it? Uh-huh.
Wow. Nice.
Yeah.
I'm glad you're enjoying your food.
I just have hard-boiled eggs, too, Adam.
Nice, dude.
Did you ask about kiss it before you swallowed?
No, I'm not that weird gay shit.
Looks like you're on your own with that.
Yeah.
Wojak looks good here.
What is that?
Last I checked, it was like at 44.
Yeah, that's about where we're at.
What about White Whale?
I know you were one of the people.
Oh, no, I told you.
I said, watch.
They're going to fucking crime me to 100 mil, probably.
And it'll be fascinating to watch.
And I've been watching.
Do you think it stays there?
Do I think that shit still lasts? Yeah.
Got a buy that listing.
Well, yeah.
Again, you have a bunch of retards
that haven't made a profitable trade in a year
that are just like, fuck it, let's all put our capital towards this
and act like this is a good thing.
And so, yeah, it makes sense.
They spent the 250K or whatever on the buy bit listing.
Fuck yeah. Good for them.
I wish I got it on the bundle. I should have.
Saw it at 4 mil. Didn't buy.
Thought it was ass.
I think brainlit is gearing up the send again, bro.
Yeah, you know what brainlit's a derivative of?
Yes, well, jack i i understand that
what i wasn't even saying that on some douchey shit i just that was an easy alley up for my
bag i'm sorry what if we all started buying altcoins like you know the leading perp decks
in the market right now that just tg'd a couple days ago the ones that just like can just print new tokens just oh just more and more tokens
whoa there's a year lock up investing but uh i don't know it's it's all dude pib is so much
better than dr pepper it's insane god this is this is where we're fucking at right now like
you know what else there is a year lockup investing on the fucking razzmar creator coin take a look at that chart buddy okay what about bro alan is gone there's
no pump on airdrop like pump is cooked how do you feel about that he's not gone dude pump fun just
had uh like 1.3 billion dollars in daily volume its highest volume day and I don't know how long Adam T. E. H. C.
Posted it.
Um, the new counterparty like data guy, but um, dude, it's not cooked just cuz he's not tweeting. I talked to him two days ago
Just cuz he doesn't follow you and you don't have that in route doesn't mean he's gone
Yeah, but it's still A fucking meme corner
He's so lit bro like that's actually so lit
Like every single time they withdraw
Shit to like Mexi or not Mexi
Whatever the fucking exchange they withdraw to that shit is so lit
Like people get angry about it
Yeah kraken that shit hypes me up bro
I'm like damn another 130 mil
That's lit
Let me see how much Unlucky spawnin That's why I got the crusader thing on right now you know
I'm lucky I spawned as a catholic not a jew you know otherwise okay okay okay dude would sometime
like this month or next month not be the perfect time for all of these protocols and like daps to
come back and say hey it's photon remember when i
promised the airdrop here it is hey it's pump fun uh here's our airdrop hey bull x is here
such a moment bull x would hit like meth oh my god photon i'm still mad at pneumonia for losing
the fight but i mean even with a lot of these like bobby you're the one who's saying it that
ozark is still fucking around which is still kind of nuts to me they promised their airdrop when was this like in 2024 like
june or july of fucking 2024 the lex did the same thing but they have no reason to do any type of
ozark's worth more money than god bro you said what is sorry o? Ozark? Worth more money than God.
Bro's got like 25% of all that shit, bro.
How much did Photon generate?
Fucking 600 million.
So, I don't know.
They have no need to do an airdrop then.
Yeah, I would have fucked off.
I mean, does he still tweet?
I haven't seen his tweet in my timeline for a minute.
Me, personally, I would have fucked right off.
Kidding me?
Yeah.
Yeah, but it's the same as like
whenever, like us getting together
and using Photon in the promise of an airdrop
is kind of similar to like
electing your local congressman
to fight on your behalf.
If he goes directly against
what all of you voted for him for,
the only way that changes
is by putting public pressure on him
and him feeling like he
has to because he's getting attacked so much that's not gonna change anything it's not gonna
change anything like i you know how many okay doomer alpha's black pilled who wants to bully
ozark with me you just want to stir some shit up. But, like, the thing is,
we weren't using it for a promise of airdrop.
Like, the product was genuinely good at the time.
It was novel at the time.
You had MemeScope, where you can trade
a bunch of different fucking tokens in one spot.
I don't know.
BullX was better.
And then Axiom came out.
Like, Photon was good, like,
literally, like, not even in 2024, bro.
Like, I don't know.
It was early 2024.
Like, summer 2024 was the last time that shit was going.
Photon was the best for, like, tops, month and a half, two months,
and then Bull X came out.
I still used fucking Photon before.
I mean, I'm not.
Well, yeah.
I mean, look at your P&L versus, like, the, you know.
I mean, we can.
Yeah, Bull X is what the big dogs are using alpha.
Oh, yeah, okay.
What are you guys using now?
Actually, I'm...
Phantom, Jupiter, Ultra V2.
Yeah, I was gonna say.
I was gonna say, I'm not Trenching, so.
Yeah, I haven't used...
I have raw dog eat those fees on Phantom, Cody.
Direct Swam.
I'm using Charles Schwab.
Yo, you can spot buy fucking crypto on it now
who the fuck is buying crypto these days man okay okay thank you so much uh he said who the
fuck is right as i hit the buy button to buy some more mode, I don't know. Holy shit, dude.
Like, fuck.
I am a nerd buddy, though. I'm still buying crypto.
I still think crypto
is like...
Yeah, but this is the same
guy who bought fucking $10,000 worth of fucking
slurf less than a few months ago.
I don't think you have any reason to
fucking snore about Jack or shit.
Do any of you guys buy cardboard?
What?
Like anime cardboards.
Oh my god.
Damn.
Shit, I guess I have fallen off.
The streets and the trenches were right.
No, not that.
It's just, I don't know.
I can't...
I got a fucking card platform in my bio
now, buddy.
I'm cooked, bud.
Listen, Curro, instead of buying
one-piece cards and Monad, you could just
buy PopCap and make money.
That's actually not
a bad idea.
I guess we diversify, man.
The most bullish thing about PopCap is the retard that was running it early on is poor as fuck and running nobody's sausage now.
That's the most bullish thing about that shit, bro.
Isn't nobody's sausage doing well now?
Because they have like 99% supply control?
Nah, fuck them.
Fuck them? Alright.
Yeah, yeah, fuck them.
Fuck Moon Pay. Fuck Moon Pay. Yo, bro, all i know is you're making my fuck philip cabana look good so i go with whatever the fuck you say man oh and fuck
clanosaurs just by proxy bro i like playing the source also what about yeah yeah their team just
fucking scams motherfuckers and does nothing with their dog shit ip that we all acted like was good
not fuck them all collectibles at the end of the day. Also, you forgot about Thinbags.
That's one you forgot about.
Yeah, fuck him too.
Fuck the Bolex team as well.
I didn't say that.
Oh, don't forget Ozarks.
Ozarks alright.
Ozarks alright now? Okay.
Fuck them, but I respect the game.
If the worst thing you did was promise an airdrop that didn't happen
and have shitty devs that take two months to push an update
that every other platform had two months prior,
and you're still racking in millions of dollars, good for you.
Respect the game.
This is recorded, right, Alpha?
Please.
I pinned up that.
No, no, no.
I was saying I hope it's recorded.
So what's today?
January 6th.
Okay.
Bob Lax gets out of jail in April.
If you haven't made a million dollars yet, but you have $50,000,
what you can do today is buy PopCat at $100 mil, $50,000,
sell March 30th or 31st, whatever the last day of that month is.
Sell it then.
And then, yeah, it'll be worth one million dollars
uh before bob lax gets out of jail so buy 50k a day sell for a million three months
do you know what's the what's the vibes today do we wish each other a happy january 6th or
wait wait wait bob he's a pop cat bull right now i Bro, he... Wait, I'm so... I'm intrigued by this entire thing.
I'm not.
Genuinely.
Like, bro, you know how down bad he probably is on that damn token?
I started buying it 150 mil.
It's like 110.
Shut your ass up.
Bro, that's still down, is it?
What is bullish about Popcat?
Let Bobby pop his cat, guys.
If he wants to pop his cat, baby.
You think he goes to two bill in the next two months?
What's bullish about Popcat? Well, boy, I'm glad you asked. I've been waiting for that question. this cat guys if he wants to talk you think he goes to two bill in the next two months what's
foolish about popcat well boy i'm glad you asked i've been waiting for that question uh first of
all uh have you seen the mouth it's uh it's a cat and his mouth pops open second of all um i have
family members who play roblox and when i especially during christmas when i was over at my family's
house they were playing roblox and it seemed that every game they clicked on
that was on the front page of Roblox,
Popcat was a very prominent character.
It's one, I swear to God, look it up.
You know what? Let me get through it.
Let me get through it.
And then you can add your dissent.
Now's not the time.
I'll send you examples.
But the third and most important reason
is like the lead kol art school reject
like extremely hot like really good looking in real life and you have to bet on hot people
like name any successful person uh in marketing sales so on that's not hot
this whole time i've been thinking it's beanie's alt wait what does bob
lax have to do with popcat though i missed something oh he he absolutely um um uh h-worded
it at two billion wait if we're buying lax coins isn't fart coin also like associated with
fucking bob why is bobby censoring himself that's like um concerning right
now i got the call um but no uh yeah fart coin was bob lax's thing in the regard that he raised
six million dollars for his scam pre-sale and then blew almost all of it trying to leverage trade
eth soul and fart coin um i mean he was literally losing like 300 grand a day and
he was otc selling a bunch of fart coin too like percentages on percentages
yeah at one point he had a lot of fart coin i mean he's still i don't know how much he probably
whoever has his fucking wallet or whatever is probably already let go of that shit 10 10 was probably his no but what other coins were
in with uh bob lax's shit it was like that popcat geo boden yeah not touching fucking boden at all
i think that's it i can't think of anything else retardio at one point he was a market maker i think there's more upside to
buying newer tokens that do come out to be honest than buying these og tokens hoping that they hit
their all-time highs again like there's going to be new liquidity there's going to be new ceilings
that do come out it doesn't make sense to go back to these ogs and in my honest opinion wait a second
don't don't you think that with some of them, though,
if there's a battle-tested group over time,
say the 2023 tickers or something like Greenlit,
where you've had just an absolute rape
and time-tested for the ones that have come
and accumulated or stayed,
the whales that haven't sold or whatever,
isn't that a sturdier, more reliable base
to go off of from a lower point than something that
just fucking catapults with a bunch of vapor and you don't know who's behind it like isn't that
more bullish to have some sort of battle-tested foundation dude it's way easier than that what
you're speaking to is when these okay whether or not new people come in i guess that's how the
coins have to go up let's say new people come in right what coins are they going to see and how are they going to see them it's going
to be the same people that have been holding these coins for a year two years three years
that are still talking about them and that goes more to like what what does being battle tested
mean so what if they're here in 2023 well if it's something enduring that is a crossover in
real life like six seven or wojack or popcat like if it's a meme in real life when people
are interested in meme coins and see that it's a meme coin they'll buy it exactly we people just
like try to separate the fact that ethan and and bitcoin ethan particular was in the shitter
and soul was in the shitter for a long time like it's not even back where it's supposed to be
it's no fucking what souls in the what 130s or whatever ethan's just barely 3300 like the macro
has to go first and then when it's fucking risk on then yeah people go back to the memes that make
them make them fucking that you know they have they have it's a part of the the the fucking the lore out here man it's actually in the roots whereas like these
new things come in and like you got a fucking white whale or whatever i'm not i don't want to
fud someone's bags but i'm just saying like these things just get concocted out of nowhere and just
just motherfuckers come they do their thing they rape people and then it's like a bunch of butter
bitches that are about to leave the space until they leverage out.
And, like, the ones that remain, though, are the ones that actually believe in this shit.
And I don't mean to sound corny, but belief is a fundamental component when you're talking about a cap supply asset, period.
I mean, the thing is that I'm like...
The cap pops, bro.
The fuck aren't you getting about that?
I'm not bearish at all.
I'm just trying to give a contrarian perspective just to kind of, I don't know, get some more.
We know.
We know.
But put it this way, okay?
Let's say that Besant's right and everyone's going to get the biggest tax return they've gotten in years.
On top of that, let's say that Trump does give like a $2,000 freedom dividend from tariff revenue to along with the tax returns,
right? And I think they're doing that to incentivize people to actually file their taxes
and not change their withholdings and so on. But regardless of that, let's say people have a couple
grand, do you think they're going to log on and log on Twitter, search meme coins and whatever
coin of the day that Diamond Hands Duval is in,
that's the coin they're going to buy.
Some esoteric, seven-layer deep internet brainwrap meme,
or are they going to just buy fucking Popcat or Doge or Pepe?
The money will be there later.
It's a trickle-down economics,
but there's always going to be that type of gambling.
There's a reason why we've only seen that type of gambling over the last year, and that's because it's never going
away. The Jack Duvall coin of the day will be here bear, bull, mid, years from now, whatever.
That's never going away. What we're talking about is the opportunity to make real fucking money.
Jack Duvall said he full ported that coin
and he only had 300 grand why are you taking trading advice from someone who has 300 000
i mean bro his size is size first but you you bring up some great you brought up some solid
fucking points at least for me things to kind of pay attention to is like which of these tokens are listed on centralized
exchanges it is what i because like bro somebody's starting off in the crypto space or wants to to be
a little bit more risk on they're gonna download what they have already whether it's the robin
hoods the coin bases maybe even phantom uh metamask whatever uh but also think about think about the
update to just happen with coinbase you i mean as long as it's not on base or eth you could buy any token decentralized token this that's uh regardless of
it being on exchanges so now that like anybody with a coinbase app not coinbase wallet coinbase
app can buy them right so that the coin the exchanges are less and less relevant i think
that's gonna i think that'll happen with robin hood soon as well i do agree i 100 agree but i mean i i don't think it changes anything at all like i i'm glad like
people are pivoting over to dexes instead of going back to these shitty ass fucking texas
but like the reality of it is it's like a majority of these people who are retail or quote unquote
retail are coming on through these sexes like they're they're coming on through
the finances through the coin bases through i feel like you're wrong bro it could be anecdotal
it could be different for you but like i know a lot of like i just got a text from one of my
but imagine like most of these people getting onboarded are like downloading phantom like
going on axiom no like is that not the onboarding process definitely not axiom
definitely maybe not axiom but any of these things like they're at least downloading phantom
and they're trying to do the trenchant now 100% tiktok meta i've never yeah but is that not now
like what's changed from then like i think like if people think they can make a shit ton of money
or like people in the past year thinking about making a shit ton of money in crypto they think
about looking at a live pair and then clicking on it and then making a shit ton of money or like people in the past year thinking about making a shit ton of money in crypto they think about looking at a live pair and then clicking on it and then making a shit ton of
money on like an axiom type ui no like it's not like people buying something on phantom and then
watching refreshing phantom just the word axiom has the people that alpha is referring to like
it would it would give them the fucking shutters like people that are just
scratching the surface with crypto they understand okay i can download coinbase and then they're
already like like a bit nervous so like i do think you need a slow drip of of getting red
built into this shit um to be able to like sustain it because a lot of people came in they tried to
download the meta mask last time and then they got fucking burned in the 2023 shit and then they're like
fuck this crypto shit i'm out and so if you make it more accessible from like the topical layer
then it just opens the door to people that just are like i'm not doing anything unless it's you
know fd backed by you know fdic insured or whatever the fuck it is that, that, that people need to be able to like
have that like fucking, uh, sense of security and sense of credibility. Coinbase is that barrier
and Robinhood, uh, those are the ones that are the, you know, the majority of retail that aren't,
you know, young kids that are getting driven from TikTok, the ones that actually have money.
I think that that's still a gateway that is important.
That is true as well. Like if somebody has, let's just say someone has like
multi-millions of dollars in real life and they have a successful business and they're like,
you know what, I'm going to fuck around. My friend said he made a lot of money on meme coins. And
then he realizes that there's no insurance at all. Everything's completely decentralized. But hey, now you can put $250K into your Coinbase account,
and it's FDIC insured,
and you can fuck around with meme coins like that.
I mean, bro, you guys are speaking in hopes and fucking dreams.
This is the thing.
Like, there's no way fucking Coinbase will be.
What?
What blackpilled you, Alpha? What's going on? I was like, what? way fucking what what blackpilled you alpha
That was going on like what like what's happening?
Like the easiest thing for you to agree with like you disagree with like the most retarded shit and then like I was back
I do
Bobby I was just trying to be a little bit concerned. I mean
Like it's sort of this.
Like, you guys do make a point.
You're like, everyone's going to come in
out of centralized exchange.
Everyone agrees with you.
Like, give the claim evidence and reasoning.
And you're like, yeah, that's bullshit.
Like, you don't even know what you're doing up here.
My bad.
I was like hitting, one of the homies
like hit me up a little bit ago asking me to,
he was like, yo, like i have this much and
i'm trying to like i have xrp and xlm and what the hell am i supposed to fucking do with this shit
and uh tell me to get on lighter and start fucking and start perpetrating nope not doing that uh but
i don't know uh just talking you long popped out on lighter yeah i am and fart coin and uh pepe and whiff and bonk
no pump no i couldn't bring myself to do it i'm not gonna prophecy hasn't even
been fulfilled yet we haven't pumped and we haven't had fun i don't think i i think you're
gonna be waiting for a long time to to for for that prophecy to come into fruition we haven't
pumped and we haven't had fun.
Is that the new tag?
I don't know. It's my tag.
I think it'll work.
It's not as good as the cat that pops,
but I'll take it.
What could potentially bring back...
Not much PTSD that gives me, bro.
Like, actually?
Like, hearing that?
Yeah, the cat that pops.
No, I got one better billy to
a billy adam billy to a billy yeah you know the issue with that was it was like the most
insufferable fucking people bro i like i i couldn't bring myself to buy it i couldn't like i
that's the one point that ran i know a lot of people that made money that i never cared about
you know what's scary too like it it was, it was scarily close to
going to a billion dude. People forget that's the type of market we were in. When I'm talking about
like, uh, this like gamble trading, Elon Musk tweet, Axiom bundling, Jack Duvall types, like
this will be here forever. The, the environment that I'm speaking of where PopCat goes to billions
and Fartcoin goes to 20 billion and everything's on Robin Hood
and spotlisted, blah, blah, blah,
is when Ansem could tweet about his cat Hobbs and it'd go to 200 million.
Or Billy, a fucking random dog, randomly goes to, what'd it go to?
400 fucking million?
A random dog, yes, dog.
It's insane, dude.
400 million? That's awesome. That was cute. It's insane, dude. 400 million?
That's awesome.
That was cute.
That shit was so great.
Wrapped dog, too.
The dog with the net around it.
Oh, dude, I caught that one.
Yeah, that one was awesome.
Shit is nuts.
I mean, that was a great touch.
It was because all these fucking retards from Fortnite were still streaming to seven viewers
and fucking eating nacho cheese
in their mom's basement bro that was i mean we had it so good we like actually though we had good
people at the front lines too like the frogs the mitches and in my opinion uh to who were all i
feel like that was pre-frog that's what's crazy like that was pre-frog no frog was still in the
no it definitely wasn't absolutely but it was before like the
fucking like i feel like he really started blowing up like a month or two before the police shit
uh and even bobby too i'll give fuck it like i hate giving this motherfucker credit more than
anything but like he was also one of the people like even beaver and like a lot of these uh people
i i genuinely feel like did it the right way there's there's so many people even now who
just completely to fuck it up because they know nobody's gonna call them out and there's i don't
know their bullshit will go unchecked because like brother's still number one on kol scan
they know people will continue fucking copy trading their wallets and it's it's like a never-ending
fucking dog shit cycle that's why i don't someone someone said something really good the other day.
They said, I see every Axiom trader
making $30,000 a day
according to their P&Ls.
Who's losing the money?
They're winning the money.
They're all making $30,000 a day.
I never hear of anyone losing money.
Who's losing the money for them to make the money?
It's their own money. It's losing the money for them to make the money it's their own money
it's their own money or can't you just fake a pnl on axiom where you just copy you can fake a pnl
on deck screener and kol scan look at every single coin that cupsy ever profits on every single one
he bought uh four million coins and he sold 35 million coins and he got transferred in those
tokens by 10 wallets right before he sold so he bought 300 and he made 2500 on deck screener and
kol scan so how do we genuinely in your opinion bobby like this is a serious fucking question but
how do we like bring it back to like the mitch days for example where people were actually able
to believe in these different tokens because mitch is holding fucking a large amount and he's just yeah i'm
gonna sit and hold my fucking hand i know people feel some type of way about him but like uh i
don't know going back to that point where people are scared to to actually sell these damn tokens
and are willing to believe in something and sit on their hands and just uh watch it kind of play
out i'll tell.
Impossible because there's too many tools.
No, I don't.
Everyone has to stop using them.
I don't think it's impossible.
I think that the tools started coming along as the markets got less liquid in order.
And I mean, you gain a little edge every tool you use.
I think the usage of these tools will be more negligible as there's more liquidity.
So like, for instance, what would it look like right now if there was a trillion and a half
dollars added to the crypto market cap overnight? You'd start seeing these coins go higher and
higher. Even like the shit gambling ones, like the Duval 6 million dollar scam, that coin probably
would have went to over a hundred
million had there been a trillion and a half more dollars in the ecosystem period the only real
thing that we can do is wait for for macro we're look at the solana market cap compared to where
it was in september like there's nothing we can do there's nothing sentiment wise ethics wise
call out wise behavior wise like there's nothing we can do. There's nothing sentiment-wise, ethics-wise, call-out-wise, behavior-wise.
Like, there's nothing we can do.
Other than endure.
The only thing we can do is just sit at a table.
Oh, my bad.
$30 a day.
Speaking of scams, two things real quick.
Jazz, I want to wish you a happy birthday.
Happy birthday from the bottom of my heart.
Love the videos.
Love the content.
I do want to say that I put $7, into your coin and now it's worth one thousand dollars
um so i'm wondering where that six thousand dollar difference
who's losing no i'm joking i'm sorry bro um i guess the the model didn't really
you know we we probably the most mainstream other than bag work on pump
it was streaming and um our clips were fucking everywhere and obviously you're gonna keep doing
it though right that's all i want to hear yeah i'm gonna yeah yeah that's all i care about got it
just been chilling just been chilling over i've been sick chilling getting a bit of post like
being a faggot you know over the over the Christmas period, but I lock in.
I don't think anybody gives a...
So Web3 Adam.
Because I'm pretty sure that's Web3 Adam.
Okay, happy birthday, fucking Jazz.
Can we go on with the fucking space?
Oh, you want us to sing fucking happy birthday to you?
Can I say something?
Absolutely not.
I don't think there's anything we can do you're like oh how do we how do we get how do we get back to what about pump
fun is pump fun just like the actual someone said my name i was just taking a fucking piss
yeah it was me bro you were saying something when uh bobby was like saying
something so i was just trying to see what you're saying but like what about the pump fun token if
meme coins don't end up making a comeback like and they're not pulling in these numbers like
they used to anymore like doesn't that just mean it's cooked like for for the their actual native
token instead of not the platform but just like the actual token
that they have associated to it you're asking the guy that's badged up from pump and then you're
asking like the most pro i mean just pump guys probably doesn't give a fuck and the the other
dude bro did you not see what ocr did uh he was like, oh yeah, me, fucking Max Berwick,
and the rest of the gang are teaming up
and swing a lot in pump fun.
Like, he's switched fucking stuff.
He's trolling, right?
I think, I don't know.
I hope so.
Yeah, that's on brand firm.
I mean, it does feel good to see some liquidity
coming back into coins and then in
regards to like old versus new coins i think there's still an appetite for new coins yeah
and we did see old coins pump like if you look their bonk and pengu and some of these other ones
like peppy like after like a billion dollars like so the old ones i would not discount them but there's definitely
an appetite for new coins because the upside is so big sorry what did you say adam i didn't mean
no no i'm sorry i feel bad i interrupted you my fault i'm done go ahead that's the funniest part
about pepe is if it bumps fucking whatever that retard today was gonna make all the money and lost fucking shorting the
market back oh big bro win-win that would actually be the most funny outcome so i actually hope it
happens i hope it doesn't bro like send that shit to 25 people unlikable for some reason it's just
i mean it's not for some reason i mean for every reason right
he does it himself like rasmer for example he does it on purpose because it's like a bit for
him like he he's like s tier like ct rage babe but like actually like he doesn't like being hit
it's like this weird paradigm i think james winn is just retarded no self-awareness yeah
hey man like this is the dude who traded hundreds of fucking millions of dollars
right like where did that come from isn't he like fuck easy he looks like he's 20
uh i haven't seen what he looks like but i know how he speaks like uh and it does not sound like
he is is i'm not gonna even say it but But I don't know. It's funny.
Did he do some fucking Malone shit
but wasn't retarded about it?
And then instead of blowing it on
Urises for whores in Miami,
he just shorts the market?
Or what's the...
Where did that money come from?
I think he got really lucky from Pepe or something.
K Money knows his story.
But yeah, he got really lucky off of
one of these looks then he did his moon pig and then all those damn fucking tokens like it's
actually like diabolical i don't know it could be just like a giant hyper liquid uh marketing
scheme too we we could never know what the hell happened there i'm kidding i don't think so but
it's entertaining i kind of see.
I remember the fucking James Wynn era.
Everybody was like, holy shit, he's about to do it again.
Oh, shit, he just got liquidated fucking 48 hours later.
It was entertaining.
You said era that lasted three days.
Don't act like that was like six months or a year or something.
That was like three days.
And then the crazy part is pivoted to rough codes
like one after the other yeah well it's because everyone fucking pays way too much money in this
space like we give retards way too much bread bro like it's funny literally the guy dude i'm
pretty sure there was uh james winn alt and one of these group chats i was in he appeared
out of nowhere he starts calling these coins and they all start they all run and we know she started
noticing james win was involved in all these coins like hit one of his wallets and sometimes
like replying to them on the timeline and shit and then he gave us moon ping at like
two or three hundred k and then every single coin after that, every single one was a complete rape fest.
Every single one, dude.
Dozens of coins over weeks, dude.
Just a complete rape fest.
Pretty genius marketing if you ask me.
It's like the dealer that gets you hooked and then he fucking starts
giving you shitty drugs after that.
Oh my god. Oh, this one wasn't me.
Don't worry, guys. The next cook, I swear,
is gonna be way better.
Yo, I've
heard that so many times.
Yo, and then I'm just
like, this is...
I can't even see what I was gonna say. I'm gonna mute.
Oh, it's good. We got'm going to mute. What's good?
We got mob up here, too.
What's good, Mr. fucking mob?
You're my new quant.
I picked you up as my new fucking quant.
You are mine now.
Nah, quant is like the gayest word.
That's for like the little kids.
I am not a kid.
What's good?
My quant's like 40.
Damn, y'all shouldn't be calling him a quant.
He likes it.
What's good though, Mob?
How are you doing today?
Good.
Just another day.
Another day you should have been buying meme coins two weeks ago.
And when I came in here and said it.
It's alright though.
Oh god, oh god.
I mean, you were kind of right.
I'm not going to discount that. He told you so, Alpha. Oh, God. I mean, you were kind of right. I'm not going to discount that.
He told you so, Alpha.
He told you so.
I mean, he was kind of right.
It's like the thing is he was kind of right.
And I did act on a couple of his calls and I did end up doing well.
So, I mean, I'm not going to be like, oh, shit.
Like, he's always right.
But he, I don't know.
You could have bought like these, these stupid-ass coins.
Like, and sell, right?
I bought that shit at 26k, like, not too long ago.
And it went up to 200k.
That's a 10x.
And I didn't even buy a lot.
I bought, like, two solo.
You know?
So, like, shit like that.
Like, you do little things like that, and you're going to make money.
That surprised me, dude.
I opened... I was going through all my wallets because like I just unlocked my Twitter.
I'm coming back.
I was going through all my wallets and one of my wallets that I checked, I was like, what the fuck?
Like you click on it on Phantom and it says $200 and then it opens up and it's like $7,000.
I'm like, where the fuck did this come from?
I scroll down and I'm like, oh, I bought a shitload of incel.
I haven't sold, but I've been holding it for months dude you guys are exactly you guys are still doing that moon bag shit even
in this market it's not moon bag shit because i never sold any of it in the first place it's not
like i took my profit took my initials and left the rest i just buy these coins and forget about them wait what's
wrong with moon bags i love moon bags you take you take profit but then you lease them in there
and i actually it's worked out really well for me i don't think there's anything wrong with the moon
bag no i agree i was just trying to give me a shit to be honest speaking of billy dude if i
would have left any kind of fucking moon bag i would have made out dude i i swear to god to you i made like three thousand dollars on billy and if you
and if i would have just held some of it dude i i i sold most of it around one and a half mil
and i made like 3k you know what's crazy during the billy era too i was in a space it was a burner
space with like a couple other people uh i wasn't
really trading meme coins at the time but uh if if they're in this space it was like yala and i
think cat5 like they they were in that space they caught billy extremely fucking early like a hundred
k fucking early telling me to tap in at like a couple hundred king they were just watching this
token hit like 20 bro it was
going up one two mil and i was like i gotta step out blah blah blah and like i come back and i'm
just like what the hell did i miss out i was like bro this it was just like an insane time period
especially seeing that token run up in like that short of a time period next day everybody's
fucking talking about it and it's running the fuck up. It's, I don't know.
It's kind of crazy, but hopefully we get that.
You know what it is?
It's six o'clock.
You should just end it.
I haven't talked in, like, actually 45 minutes,
and then you say that.
That's funny.
He laughed.
He laughed.
That's incredible.
The hell you...
He used to come just at the end, too.
That was awesome.
What the hell is Adam giggling about?
It's like a grown man
fucking giggling about another man.
I'm barely a grown man, bro.
Cut me some slack, dude.
Gold just hit $4,500,
by the way.
Oh, shit.
We should be buying more gold, guess or chrome hearts pieces i mean
those do the job too but yeah i think it is not because i'll set it it is about that fucking time
because we've decided it is about that time uh it is 5 p.m uh mountain standard time appreciate
everybody who just showed up, everybody in the audience,
and appreciate everybody who shows up every single day.
Appreciate everybody who came up and spoke.
But yeah, we will be running this back
tomorrow, same exact
time, so appreciate you guys.
Bye, guys. See you tomorrow. Thank you.
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