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WHAT’S NEXT?!
Recorded: Jan. 20, 2026 Duration: 3:32:51Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the recent volatility in the market, driven by geopolitical tensions and economic factors, while expressing optimism for recovery. Key topics included the impact of Japan's bond market on crypto prices, potential fundraising implications from tariff discussions, and the importance of community engagement in upcoming token launches.
Full Transcription
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I'll be back home, but I gotta go to work
She was fucking on the home, love a nigga first
Put him in a body bag, ain't my first hearse
Balenciaga on my bag, ain't my first shirt
I be back home, but I gotta go to work
Tell her that I love her, I don't think you're really worried
She was fucking on the wrong, love a nigga first
I was fucking on a check for my first verse
Put him in a body bag my first years
Yeah, when I'm first
My first shirt
Yeah, she was smoking on that gas in her first
So the happy back, gotta go to work
Bring the money back home, pockets on burst
Brought a heavy breaking bag, fuck a damn purse
Ungrateful ass bitch, never knew her
Nowadays won't stop, nowadays I'm on one
Watch out, I be back on top, right since when it's time come
So many farms, like how I ain't found one
Fuck you bitch, everywhere, nowadays you born, though
All these bitch niggas, these bitches swore it's home
I'm a motherfucker pro, bitch it's all porn song
Been getting flotched rough, probably wasn't long
Pull up in the level, don't go up, she's like DeLorean
Rubbing killer niggas locked in with a corner
Knew I was gon' make it cause I wasn't for the corner
Do I like her arm? That is kinda solid
I controlled the quality, took my side bitch to pour
I be back home, but I gotta go to work
Tell her that I love her I don't think it really works
She was fucking on her own love a nigga first
I was fucking on a check for my first verse
Put him in a body bag, ain't my first curse
Yeah, the nigga went out bad, ain't my first curse
Balenciaga on my bag, ain't my first shirt
She was smoking on that gas, ain't her first bird
Yeah, oh, I was Smokin' on that gas in her first purse I be back home, but I gotta go to work
She was fuckin' on her own, love a nigga first
Put him in a body bag in my first purse
Balenciaga on my bag in my first shirt all right we're about to get this going with one more song if you guys are just joining us press
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will bring you guys up. But one more song and we will keep it pushing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Classic
Bought in when I was in New York again
Charlie, you was trying to run on me
I've been, I've been going on my own
I've been, I've been doing things I know
It's the day one, you running right back
Say the drama, you running off track
It's a one life, you tell me, one life
One time, you tell me, one time
Open your eyes, open your eyes, baby
Can you be wise, cause I'm a pride, baby
I'm on the way, I'm on the run, baby
Leave me alone, leave me alone, take it back now
I pulled you all there
Say you want a chance to hold this on me
I feel I hold this back
Turn you right around, take it my way
So tell me what you need from me now
I know what you need to be now
Cause I'm done with this now
No more damages now
Say tell me what you need from me now
I'm not like it need to be now
Cause I'm done with it now
No more damages now now, no more damages
Back then when I was a baby girl
I was yours and you were my world
Tell me what you wanna do for me now
Take you down and I will hold you to run my race
Cause you run it right there Run my race Cause you're running right there
Run my race cause you take it right there
I've been down, I've been running right there
I've been out cause you take it back there
Pull up tonight, I might be whiskey
But me stomach forget the whiskey
But you still wanna get back with me
You trying to be the one and tell it
Don't go up my phone phone you're nothing mad man
you me still waiting at the one chance i live my life don't need you with me
yeah yeah so tell me what you need from me now i know what you need to be now cause i'm done with
it now no more damages now so tell me what you need from me now You know where I need to be now
Cause I'm down with you now
No more damages, no, no
Tell me what you need from me now
I know what you need to be now
Cause I'm down with you now
No more damages, no
Tell me what you need from me now
I know what you need to be now
Cause I'm downummy Vee now
No more damages, no no
No more damages all right let's get this going if you guys are just joining us press that bottom right button
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to check out put it in the comment section if you did want to come up and speak feel free to request we will
bring you guys up but it has been an interesting ass fucking 24 hours just in general in this
fucking space uh we had the whole trove shit kind of go down and i know a lot of people do feel some
type of way about it i know ethos has a couple people getting slashed right now for anybody who's been keeping, paying attention to that. Market did take a little bit of a hit,
but I mean, we'll wait and see what does kind of come next. I think Trump is currently in a
press conference, I think talking about the whole Greenland situation. So we'll see what does kind
of come out of there. But I mean, overall, everything is just holding, I guess, especially
since the crazy dump
that we did have last couple days but i mean we can tap in and see what the hell does kind of come
next also there's been a screenshot uh uh let me pin it up everybody's just like i've gotten tagged
in it like 10 times which is like the trove it was like trove angels or some shit uh and there's
like somebody with my pfp who threw up a fire emoji and did now
everybody's like oh you were in there you were in there no no no i was not i don't do angel
investments in a lot of these crypto i did none of these crypto uh things to the projects products
or whatever's coming out with a token to even begin with but it's been funny to just kind of
see uh yeah waiting to see
what the hell that is but that is funny uh but yeah we'll tap into all of that in just a bit
what is good though gg are you doing it there i'm good yeah trove angels it's insane um yeah i'm
sure like they reached out to a lot of people i think they reached out at least to me, um, like in, was it October? So
we get a lot of requests for these things and not, there's not always information. You do have
to do your own diligence and you don't always know if it's like legit or not, but a lot of
times it's just not worth even taking the risk. But yeah, it's, it's kind of crazy to see it all
unravel. My timeline is just full of trove and the whole
orangey situation. Um, I don't even follow kook, but his situation and just people getting all
crazy about it. But, um, orange's responses are kind of weird to it. Like just say, just say,
just, I don't know. It was just weird. But anyway, um, yeah, crypto market has taken a hit.
But anyway, yeah, crypto market has taken a hit.
We're down about 4% on market cap.
That's a pretty big ding.
So far, it looks like it's the EU tensions regarding Greenland.
Trump, he is threatening to once again charge terrorists 200% on champagne alone.
So if any champagne lovers out there, you've been warned.
And they are like in talks this week. So there might be some crazy things coming out of that.
Expect volatility, but gold and silver, fresh all time highs by SMP, um, stock market not looking
so good today as expected, but I think this is worse than we were expecting. S&P erased all of the
2026 gains. It's the worst drop in three months. So hopefully we see some recovery on that.
Besant did come out and say the markets aren't down because of the Greenland situation. It's
because of the Japan bond market situation, which is another layer there.
Their bond market is showing a lot of volatility. And so we know what happens when the carry trade
unwinds last time we took a big hit. But you would think Bitcoin and crypto would be pumping
on this news, but it is following the U.S. market so far.
So, but yeah.
And then Gwei, their official checker came out.
A lot of people are not eligible because not only did you have to tweet about the project,
you had to quote tweet a specific tweet, it looks like.
So yeah, a lot of people are not happy about that.
But like we always say, low expectations, especially with this one.
So, yeah, I don't know if you got to check.
I did.
I was like, oh, it might be another, like, gas token, like, last cycle,
where at the end of the year we had, had like this crazy airdrop for those who
did uh transactions on eith uh and then i checked and i was like i've done a lot of volume across
all these wallets and i was just like okay and paid a lot in gas and i was just like checking
to see and then people were like uh and then I checked it I was not eligible on any of them
and then I went on the timeline just to double check and they were like you were supposed to
do quests and all these different things and I didn't do a single one of those I connected my
wallets I connected my x account and I thought that was it but you're supposed to like quote
retweet them and do all these I don't know after that moonberg situation that they were supposed
to give an airdrop for people who tweeted i was just like i'm not tweeting out any of these
different things because like at the end of the day they they're just going to use and abuse people
and uh if it does end up being rewarding without having to tweet it cool bet but uh yeah didn't
end up doing that yeah any uh at all yeah a lot of people have said um pranksy who did a lot of transactions
i don't remember how much he spent but um he was up there and he was not eligible as well and he
even tweeted about them but that whole quote tweet and quest thing is kind of insane but we keep
pushing yeah and then um also the algo um twitter algo is open source we were waiting for that and
looks like there's some metrics that came out we can talk more about that if you guys want
but yeah it was interesting to see how they broke it down but there's been a lot of posts about that
uh did do you see the pin tweet does that look like my profile picture i mean it's it does kind of
look like my fucking profile picture i'm not gonna lie a little bit but i mean there's there's
definitely uh it's exactly yours but that's crazy who's cal i i like when angels when when uh i think
bobby was like uh the first one who's like really, he definitely knew and he was just like trying to stir the shit up.
And then I like popped into like Pingu's space for like a couple seconds.
And then RJ was like, okay,
it's either you're a scammer in this telegram
or you're just unoriginal.
And I was like, I don't know uh it's it's hilarious to see though
but i do want to see the lit like the the entire situation like i'm seeing scammers call each other
scammers right now where it's just like people did promote it coop did a hundred percent fucking
promote it and he was like talking like everybody else was at fault he deleted the tweet and acted like nothing like oh yeah everybody else is at fault except me but it's just funny to see it genuinely is like a funny ass situation but it
like like we said yesterday like tells you or gives you an idea of who the hell to kind of stay
away from uh especially when buying things in this space since, I don't know, it's all on money.
Yeah, that char is so ugly.
It's like down over 95%. It looks like, yeah, you're right.
Cook did delete his tweet after the DE detective.
I can never see his name.
He posted about it.
And within an hour, he deleted that tweet. If he had nothing to hide, why did he delete the tweet? Kind of strange. But yeah, he's definitely trying to grave dance on other people showing it, which is kind of ironic.
paid 35k um somebody he it was weird so he got accused and then um he just posted some screenshots
that were very vague uh you know him saying like oh i like this project and blah blah blah but then
he never admitted to um getting paid and then somebody mlm straight up asked him in the comments
did you get paid um 35k Or that's what my source started
telling me. And he just replied with yes. So I guess he's like, I can't, I can't run from this
anymore. But yeah. And then we also know TJR, who is more TikTok following, but he got 45K.
People that were wearing the badges, they got minimum 5K. And then a bunch of other people got paid like 8K.
I think Whale said that he got 8K or somebody found out.
So yeah, there's been a lot of drama around this.
And it sucks because ICOs were kind of like getting a little bit of steam.
And this just really puts a wrench in it. So it's hard already to trust these ICOs were kind of like getting a little bit of steam and this just really puts a wrench in it so
it's hard already to trust these ICO projects but this definitely leaves a bad taste in everyone's
mouth so and then there was the whole TikTok meta that did it go down have you seen it like
people there's this one dude on TikTok has been stirring everybody, talking about MrBeast is about to drop a meme coin.
And I saw that token got absolutely violated today for anybody who's been kind of watching that.
It did have a crazy run.
Like, these TikTok kids have motion.
Like, if they can rally hundreds of thousands of kids kind of together and get them to buy a single damn token and like i think this coin hit like 50 mil because of some
i don't know clip of mr beast talking about uh make everybody rich during the super bowl blah
blah blah kid did a little bit of research and he was like okay yeah he's launching a token it's
probably bundled to shit and he dropped it himself but uh i don't know it had like a crazy run it looks like uh and then just all of it
earlier just all the meme coins have had a crazy trace but the shit was like a next level sort of
dump yeah that went from like i think two million if you bought yesterday but i yeah this guy like
really pumped it there's some other people that tweeted about it and, um,
it got, it got a run on it, but then someone from the team from Mr. Beast tweeted that they are,
there's no coin. They're not going to launch a coin. And it was out for a while and it was still
holding like around 60, which was insane, kind of weird. And then it finally did take a dump. But yeah, always be careful with those.
It's too good to be true than it probably is.
But it did do a crazy run.
Yeah, it's been nuts.
And I think the meme, I don't know,
meme coins just in general,
I think have taken a crazy hit recently,
especially with whatever market news,
everything just kind of
taking a hit i think people are people are you still trading meme coins right now
or like looking at i don't know shit that's kind of established or i didn't um i didn't buy anything
yesterday um not that i'm not willing but i just didn't see anything interesting but
yeah after the whole ai crash um that meta just taking a shit.
I'm just like not as excited.
But I'm still willing and looking.
But the only ones that have been getting some traction are like the Ryanair situation because of Elon Musk.
But yeah, there has been some retrace.
The white whales have been dumping that coin
pretty bad let's see where it's at it's all it's down to 30 but i it it did hit down to 20s but
yeah i don't know if there's going to be recovery on that and tomato did take a hit as well
people taking profits too much volatility in the market right now with all of this macro news
and geopolitics yeah and i think people want a bit more certainty right now uh especially with
the way the market is like it's there's like there's no clear direction of where we're kind
of going especially that i thought uh 2026 was just going to be straight.
I was hoping for straight up only. I know that is not always fucking possible, but
I don't know. We had a little bit of a pump the first like week, two weeks, and now just the
crazy retrace on everything is kind of nuts. Monero is still holding decently steady.
No, it's down. That's down to Monero is down to 513. It's down about over 20% just this week.
My thing didn't refresh.
16%. Yeah. Just in the last 24 hours. Zcash down about 566 there's some unlocks coming yeah and then we have
the whole trove sell-off so there's been some dings on hyperliquid but I'm looking for like
20 maybe start buying again but maybe 19 would be glorious I mean, but you also have to be willing to take like at least a 30% hit whenever you're buying into these falling knives.
This is actually insane.
My thing actually was not refreshed.
And I'm looking at the prices now.
Oh, no, I'm refreshing.
Those numbers are so much better.
I hate when that happens.
Bro, what the hell?
20% on the week moneros down we got lighters down 20 on the week fart coins down 25 on the week monads down 25
on the week bro this is disgusting i mean there's one runner um canton it took a hit um so it is
recovering but the canton coin that's the one for canton network
and they're the ones that are partnered with the tcc which is the stock market um settlement
um governing body or whatever you want to call them but they make sure like everything's legit
um on the stock market side but yeah that one it's nice to see a recovery on that one yeah yeah and i've
been getting liquidated over and over i've been playing perps last i got liquidated like three
times back to back to back uh over the last like 48 hours it's actually kind of nuts i thought
shit was gonna recover after uh like sunday like you know going into the new week. But no, it did not. And I was just like, okay,
let me double down. Might as well. Yep. Got liquidated on that too. So we'll see. Hopefully
things do come back, but I would not recommend anybody, especially if you don't know what you're
doing, to play perps right now. The volatility is actually disgusting unless you know what the hell is kind of going on speaking of perps and volatility did you see paradox like the whole stark net
glitch yesterday i don't know when it exactly happened it might have happened over the weekend
but yeah like bitcoin somehow went to like almost zero so i don't know what's going on over there. It's kind of ironic because last week,
I think Solana had quote-treated StarkNet
or something like that going to zero
because of all the fake metrics.
But yeah, if you're on Paradex,
it sounds like people got cooked on that.
And they're supposed to roll it back.
So I don't know if that's already happened.
Like who did they use?
Is it known who they use for like their price oracle, I guess? I don't know if that's already happened like who did they use is it known who they use for
like their price oracle i guess i i don't know i don't farm that one but um it's just ironic that
it's a dex and they're gonna roll it back but um yeah if it's like for this to happen so easily
it's pretty scary you know especially like after-10, you would think people would tighten up.
But yeah, I don't have a lot of news on that.
But I know Paradex and Stark Neck not getting a lot of love.
Let me see.
DeFi Llama, Perps.
Is Paradex up there?
It looks like it's what?
Hyperliquid, Aster, Lighter, Ajax, Variational, Extended, GRVT, and then Paradex.
But I mean, they did a decent amount. People do use them, it looks like, but I feel like it's...
It's one of the ones that are definitely being farmed out of like the top like 20, 30 perp dexes so it is definitely on that list but it says after stark net glitch so
i don't know if start net is where they get their oracle i don't know i don't i don't even
know what start net does yeah i'm not super familiar with stark net but i can look it up
really quickly but yeah that is disgusting did you did you see any did you go through any of the um
the algal metrics no not at all uh i saw people tweeting about it and i was just like uh here we
go again with this but it was what was put out there like what is being looked at uh yeah i think
the most interesting parts i mean there was a lot of information and there's
been a lot of posts about it but there is a daily reach allowance so that seems to be true so you
don't want to be over tweeting um and you want to space out your tweets it looks like
there the replies are more important than bookmarks and then bookmarks are more important than bookmarks. And then bookmarks are more important than reposts.
Reposts are more important than likes. So that's like the tier it's replies, bookmarks, reposts,
and likes. So if you are in here, um, reply, comment, bookmark, and repost and like, um,
the space, uh, we appreciate you for it. But yeah, that was interesting to see. And the more time
that people spend on your post, the bigger your reach boost becomes. So if you're doing videos
or multiple pictures and they open the picture, that's like beneficial to you. So it's called
dwell time, they call it. And then if somebody DMS your post, it also boosts and increases your
post reach. And I don't know if this was actually specified, but somebody suggested no more than
three or four posts a day and long form content can increase dwell time. But if people pass
through it, obviously that that that doesn't work for
you it works against you if you do get blocked muted or reported um you take a big hit and there
was a point system that gives you a negative 369 points so that's kind of crazy and they did break down the points if you get a reply it's 13.5 points
that you get and if somebody clicks on your profile from that tweet you get 12 points a
repost is only one point and a like is half a point so kind of crazy but if you do get a reply engaged by author it's positive 75 points
so that's like the biggest weight but yeah there's been lots of posts about it so it's kind of
interesting to see i'm glad that they made it open though hopefully people don't farm that though
yeah was it all just like last night i mean mean, they've been putting out, X has been putting you're an article writer. Yeah, they did open
source it. They were supposed to open source it like two days ago. And there was like some tweet
where Elon engaged with it, that the timeline is cooked. And then somebody said, yeah, weren't you
guys supposed to release the metric? So yeah, they went ahead and did that last night.
Oh, shit.
But are there like posts where we can see
like all of this kind of laid out?
Yeah, let me find him.
What's his name?
I'll look for the name.
I can look up.
I know Alex Finn is already on that.
Why you're not.
Yeah, he wrote an article, I think.
I believe he wrote an article. think i believe he wrote an article so i didn't read that one um i don't i'm not like on x to read articles i it's not my go-to i rather
you know get the bite-sized um tweet um but to have to click on to another, like, and open another page, I don't know.
I'm not used to that yet. But yeah, there's one from Star Platinum. I'll pin that one. There's
been a ton. So there's been a lot of useful information out there. But this one, I have
bookmarked for anyone. Yeah.
I haven't seen much of that.
My entire timeline has been riddled with the whole fucking clavicular,
Andrew Tate, Myron thing.
I haven't seen any of that.
That's why your FYP is so different.
Wait, what's going on with clavicular and Andrew Tate?
So there was like a giant stream, I think,
with like Nick fuentes and
like all these uh edgy let's just call them uh uh streamers uh and they ended up playing uh
what's his name song uh kanye west like uh hh song that the the hitler one oh yeah yeah yeah and the club right yeah they're all banned from all
hospitality uh like uh places whether it's restaurants clubs whatever and like a lot of
them are instead of doubling down or whatever they're just like uh i would apologize i'm half
jewish and a couple other things too it's it's it's been an entertaining situation uh i don't keep up with
any of these people i don't know why it's on my uh algo but it's been interesting to
it's just funny uh it's genuinely the world's just entertaining to kind of see and them doubling
not doubling down but like doubling back is is hilarious i saw that on tiktok i haven't
seen that on um on x but i thought it was crazy that clavicular and andrew t were doing
um a stream together that's kind of wild did not expect that but is that even a thing though i feel
like we're being psyoped is there like a whole oh you're banned
from every establishment i don't even think that's a real thing i think i think they're just like
blowing it up it might be possible because like even with like isn't it possible with like nfl
games for example or like uh nba games that's different because it's like one system right
the nfl like runs everything so that would be easier it's like getting down from
disneyland or whatever um or getting on the no fly list there's like a centralized system
but i don't think clubs and venues like that have one centralized system
uh yeah it's maybe maybe not uh word of mouth i mean that would make sense but what if there was a no
fly list for like fucking restaurants though what like what if or it's like uh the equivalent there
will always be a club that's willing to take them um if you want to pay your way there will always
be somebody that's willing to open their doors that. I feel like that's how nightlife kind of works.
Yeah, 100%.
100%.
I don't know.
I'm like looking at these prices,
and it's looking a little bit depressing.
I was hoping lighter would even bottom out.
I'm not going to lie.
Like, I've just been watching the fucking price of this token.
I'm still bullish, still holding a majority of my position,
but it's just like it's so disgusting, the price action of this damn token uh i don't know
sold at 127 bucks now is actually disgusting too but it looks like there's a little bit of green
on the one hour chart so if you zoom in enough it looks like there is a little bit of fucking
green which i do not know it looks like meme coins have taken the hardest hit out of everything.
Aved still holding decently well.
BMB still, yeah, looking disgusting too.
But we'll see.
What's good?
We got Iceberg up here too.
What's good, Iceberg?
Not much. Not much.
Not much, brother.
We gained the pressure from Trump here in Scandinavia.
And we gained tariffs and Greenland
and maybe it's going to be a world war
and Russia involved.
It's fucking crazy, man.
What the fuck is going on in Denmark?
And Denmark is like stressing and
pushing Norway to join and Sweden to join the Scandinavians to join but we just got hit with a
fucking tariff for 10% all countries and it's fucking crazy man what the fuck the Trump is like
I don't know who Trump is a maverick, man.
Well, that escalated quickly.
We went from Greenland and 10% tariff to a world war.
What's going on over there in Finland or wherever you are?
No, you don't know.
You don't know, Gigi.
We are close to the Soviet Union or fucking Russia.
Our border is with Russia. Finland and Norway have Union or fucking Russia. Our border is
with Russia, you know. Finland and Norway
have a border to Russia.
You got Sweden in between and you got Denmark
who are connected to Greenland.
So it's
a very delicate situation,
you know. And you got NATO
getting involved to want to pressure
the war on Ukraine.
I've been always against the war on Ukraine,
between Ukraine and Russia.
You shouldn't get involved, you know.
But when you get involved, anything can happen.
Anything can happen.
And that's not good for the macro situation for the world.
And it's an excuse to shake us off from Bitcoin and our positions
and get a little bit scared of maybe it's going to be a world war.
But I'm just telling it as it is.
I also have to remember, Trump is very known for throwing things out there
to get negotiations on his side.
So sometimes he says things without actually enforcing them.
So sometimes it's the art of the deal for him.
So not everything he says is...
Yeah, not everything he says, but he attacked Iran.
He did.
And he's like so-called telling he's going to be a peacekeeper
and he deserved the fucking Nobel Peace Prize.
Did we attack Iran?
I don't...
You bombed Iran. You bombed Iran.
You bombed Qatar also with Israel.
I'm not aware of that.
I thought he stepped back and said,
we're not going to attack them.
Lately, lately now, yeah, because he's...
Oh, okay.
I thought you were talking about recently.
No, I'm talking about before.
I'm talking about before.
But now it's good that he's taking position
and saying to Netanyahu,
I need actual targets and actual confirmation on targets to do that.
That's geopolitics.
But I'm just thinking about how he's going to push the narrative on Bitcoin
and the financial market around the world.
the financial market around the world.
You know, you got 40 trillions on the deficit,
on fucking debt from United States that I haven't always
have the say on the economic for the world because a lot
of people are using US dollars around the world
and are trusting the US to stabilize the economy around the world.
And it could be a sign up also to shake us off the real money
that's going to come into the blockchain and Bitcoin and the EVMs.
And you saw what happened in that New York Stock Exchange
is going to fucking tokenize their assets.
And it's going to be more and more billions,
maybe up to trillions that's going to come over to EVMs
and tokenize their fucking assets.
So it's a very delicate situation lately.
And things go very fast and develop fast.
And we got to notice.
And don't get scared and don't get shake-off.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, I know there's been a lot of macro news.
Lots going on.
Whether it's the Japanese bonds or...
Yes, they use the Japanese bonds.
In regards to Bitcoin, there have been people saying, oh, we just hit the death cross and it flashed 58K.
There's that.
And then there was a BTC whale that they moved $85 million, I think, after 13 years.
But this is not like, I feel like we see this at least once a week.
And Maduro, who maybe own some Bitcoin
I don't know what the fuck's going on
there but we don't care
because it's not
so big swing
it's nothing to get panic off
if you are in the blockchain
because the blockchain
and Bitcoin is the future
and they know it, the establishment know it
the banks know it. The fucking
funds know it. And they want to tokenize
their assets because they want to cut on cost
when it comes to transactions.
So we have to
just stay strong
educate ourselves to the
fullest for what is
relevant in the future.
So that's it. Or you can go over or you can
go over with collectible cards like kuro and don't give a fuck about the fucking charge and do big
bucks with one piece for anybody who does want a bit of context too uh because i wasn't super
familiar with like the tariff situations going on
but tariff deals that threaten tariffs uh yeah trump announced that he's doing tariffs on denmark
uh norway sweden finland plus france germany uk and the netherlands uh starting at 10 effective
february 1st 2026 increasing to 25 on j June 1st of 2026, remaining in place until a
deal on Greenland is reached. But yeah, these tariffs have been announced or threatened,
but not formally implemented. No official executive order or paperwork has been issued
as of January 20th, for anybody who's wondering. But I don't know, there's a lot to kind
of take into consideration. I mean, even with the tariff news, it was a solid buying opportunity
early last year for anybody who did kind of remember that. But I mean, to each their own.
Japanese bond markets are actually disgusting too. We pinned we pinned up uh arthur hayes's post for anybody who hasn't
seen it but i don't know uh i genuinely don't know i'm still excited i think 2026 is about to
be a huge year do do we not remember that blog post from that reddit user guy for saying 2026
is about to be the greatest fucking year for equities, crypto, everything in between.
And I still think that's the truth.
I still think that is where we're at.
Yeah, and you didn't miss that Reddit guy, or not Reddit guy, 4chan guy, wasn't it?
4chan guy was having predictions on Bitcoin also.
So you got a lot of those guys who don't miss.
And they know, of course.
Another thing is, like, we may have a reset on the fucking financial institution.
Maybe.
Everything on dollar on chain.
Who knows?
And who's going to be the stablecoins, USDC stablecoins guy who's going to take over the world?
Maybe it's Tether and USD together.
Or Trump's stablecoin.
We don't know.
But absolutely everything is going to come on chain.
And when a lot of money is going to come on chain, it's going to be better for us.
So for us, it's better.
So we're going to do well, man.
No problem.
And what gives me hope, LowKage, especially for the crypto market,
cage especially for like the crypto market for anybody's been watching silver that put up i think
for anybody who's been watching silver,
over two billion dollars in its market cap in the last uh few months which is like genuinely insane
to kind of see and like crypto is still sitting i think under a two billion dollar fucking or two
trillion dollar fucking market cap uh yeah it's it's at a three trillion dollar market cap but gives me hope to see even
if we did add uh whatever silver did add in the last few months like it's there's potential we
we can really start sending some shit but i mean it's not always the case no but think about dtcc
has been handling not trillion but quadrillions of dollars in volume.
They are the clairs of the stock market, S&P and everything.
And suddenly they are tokenizing to canto.
That's what's happening.
So what are they going to use?
How many trillions are we going to end up on the crypto industry?
We don't know.
But if the technology is there,
who knows?
It could be 6 trillion, 10 trillions, 15 trillions,
20 trillions.
It could be numbers that we don't even fucking imagine.
So we are in the right spot.
So no problem.
I mean, the way, the thinking that I've seen from a lot of people, though, it's just like it's not working out the way people expected. People thought it was going to be directly on whatever chains exist today.
But like you're seeing DTCC partner with Canton, for example, or like NASDAQ is using Chainlink.
But they're probably going to come out with their own product
instead of products that exist already in the space.
They could do, but everybody follows the technology.
The best developers, you know, everybody's after the best developers.
Like Circle, they got the developers from Axelar,
fucked up the Axelar DAO, and they got their developers.
So they want to have a multi-chain.
So everybody knows the vertical things of here
is aggregating dApps and protocols.
That's mean the bridge protocols or bridge dApps
and the solvers, the solvers,
like the clearing and the solvers, the solvers, like the clearing and the solvers,
who can transact to different chains seamlessly
and very secure, very secure with minimal cost.
And it's much more minimal in the stock market
and S&P and the SWIFT program
that so much is cost efficient
because there's a lot of people involved
and want to be the middleman.
But now it's much less cost.
So it's nice that people are recognition
for the technology of blockchains and EVMs
or Solana or whatever it is.
So it's good. It's good.
So it's going to be a lot of opportunities to hedge for the future of financial market
or if it's going to be a great reset and a new world order.
So who knows?
Yeah, I think Scotia was talking about it yesterday,
where like crypto is being normalized
more and more by the day which is huge 100 huge for the space but uh what does it mean for our
on assets it also means crypto has become like a clear target for everybody whether it's uh
institutions whether it's government whether it's just retail users in general. So we're not going to be seeing the same returns that we've seen in the past
because it's become so normal.
And I don't know.
We'll see what does kind of come out.
I'm still hopeful on a lot of these things, whether it's equities coming on
chain, pervs, prediction markets.
It's good for us.
It's good for us.
You got to admit that.
100%.
It's good for us.
If they put an institution now going on chain and going to EVMs and doing their fucking real world asset on chain, you have also, like, for example, you have silver on though.
You can, like, have silver on chain.
So, a lot of things, a lot of stocks and things are going on chain right now.
So, it's good for us.
If you have volume on chain, then it's good for also the meme and the culture.
So it's good either way.
So if you position for a meme that is very relevant in this time and the institutions are coming on the other side and choosing dubs and protocols, right protocols to have their money on, and it's much more trillions and people are coming on, then the culture also will go up. The culture of
blockchains will go up. That's memes. So either way,
everybody's doing well. So I'm just happy for everybody.
100%. Also, we talked about
StarkNet earlier, and I did look it up
just to, it's just like another zk uh sort of uh yeah
l2 for for anybody who's wondering where it's it's yeah starknet is a layer two scaling solution for
eth position for btc as well it's designed to make ethereum transactions faster dramatically
cheaper while keeping the strong security uh guarantees of uh ethereum's
main chain and its validity roll-up so another zk roll-up uh and it uses zk proofs called starks
which uh i don't know i don't know how the hell parrot what was it was It was Paradex had that whole issue, but it's, yeah, it's kind of
nuts. No, no, no, no.
Stock has been always
on point from the day
one. They are competing with
ZK Sync and Arbitrum.
I remember when I had the
airdrop on ZK Sync and Arbitrum,
I was also involved
in, that was like three years ago
or two and a half years ago, so I was involved involved in this was like three years ago or two and a half years ago
so I was involved like for checking out
like Stark and Stark is
Stark is legit but the
thing is it wasn't over the
weekend they had mass liquidations
on Paradox because of the glitch
on Stark yeah it could be a glitch
but they have
good fucking developers behind
themselves with the
Stark. They need to get better
ones then because glitch is
liquidating a bunch of... How much
was the liquidation?
I'm not sure how much it was, but
on Paradox, the Bitcoin
price went almost to zero.
It was kind of cool to watch them.
Yeah, so people have been farming that. It was kind of cool to watch. Yeah. So people have been
farming that. It's a perp tax.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I know
Paradex. Paradex has also
been doing well, but did that situation
happen to Paradex right now
for this week? Did you?
I believe it happened over the weekend.
That's fucked up. Bitcoin hit
zero dollars on Paradex after
start net glitch. That's fucking crazy. Bitcoin hit $0 on Paradox after StartNet glitch.
That's fucking crazy.
Mass liquidations force rolled out.
And did you hear about the glitch on Sui?
Didn't pay their fucking bills on Amazon?
What was that?
You got trolled.
That was Syop.
Was Syop?
They went down, but that's from an account called Doomer.
Was it a real use or was it Syop?
It's not.
No, it was troll.
It was troll.
You're looking at Doomer rather than Sui. I trust you, baby. Gigi, you're a fucking queen. I trustomer. No, it's Troll. You're looking at Doomer rather than Zuber.
I trust you, baby.
Gigi, you're a fucking queen.
I trust you.
No problem.
Zui is still sitting at around $1.49.
Yeah, that's good.
But it was in $4, wasn't it, on banks?
Or what it is, $3?
It's had disgusting price action.
But I think it's to blame is 10-10 uh everything that kind of went down on 1010 there's there's not a lot of uh i don't know
people still feel a type of way with like some of these alts especially after seeing them dump
60 fucking percent uh in a single five minute fucking candle like it's it's actually disgusting
but uh it's looking like
there's recovery still regardless a lot of these alts have not recovered to pretend and even majors
have not recovered at all but i think these alts are gonna have to do a lot more to garner trust
in the fucking space especially sui with like the whole cdus hack that did kind of go down. And just like there isn't much to kind of do on Sui.
And there's this,
people have like this bad taste in their mouth
with like SuiLand.
And a lot of these like DeFi apps that were on Sui
that didn't reward the people that were actually using it
and like went the direction of InfoFi
or just like paying the shit out of KOL.
So I think they, if, I don't know, there could be potential.
No, it's really the potential.
They are doing things right.
And they want to push in for, for like real adoption and real world asset,
them also.
And they tried to push for ZK also for, for masking transactions and having,
having that right to do that.
It's no problem with it.
Maybe one
could explain. One is the
fucking sui god, wasn't it?
Yeah, he got more
answer than us.
What's good? We got Adam up
here too. It's good. How are you doing?
Dude, I was up
till 2 a.m. and then I was up at
7 a.m. I was trying to get Nick Fuentes
to claim
these fees. I actually talked to him
this morning. It was pretty cool.
Wait, so you launched a token?
Or somebody launched it?
I bagged that fucking Fuentes, bro.
Dude, I really thought I had it.
My boy's like good friends with him.
That guy's so based, bro.
It's a shame.
He didn't give a fuck.
You know, i was supposed to
talk debate candace owens again they offered me 500 grand i told him no i don't want it
okay dude hey godspeed bro don't take the three bands i would have been so up right now bro they
would have been they would have been chanting my name in the streets bro i would have been chanting my name in the streets, bro. They would have been chanting that shit. So he said Nick Fuentes.
Nick Fuentes is low-key washed out of him.
I'm not going to...
No, that guy's washed as fuck.
I think he's actually at the peak of his viewership and everything right now.
Yeah, that's why they're banned from every hospitality place in the United States.
And Sneeko.
Sneeko was involved also, right? With Andrew Tate
and his brother.
Anyways, I'm going to take a nap.
I just thought that would have been generational,
bro. That would have been a generational
cook for the boys.
Do you like bags better or pump better?
Do you use both?
I'm getting touched on
them all.
I mean, weren't you talking about the fees being lucrative on the pump?
Yeah.
I mean,
I'm just,
everything's rape right now though.
It's like this guy replied to this guy with the next handle who has a product
with a thousand followers.
And then they launch it and it dies at 10 K and then some fucking retarded
17 year old buys it and says it's good.
And then it pumps.
And then it,
bro, it, and then it bro it
yeah it's fucking disgusting i'm not in the fucking trenches i don't ever want to go back
in there but i mean there's there's some buckwine looks good here bro you should put every dollar
you have your name into that right now seven is-ish mil. How's it doing today?
Like seven, eight.
Wait, wasn't it like 14 yesterday?
Yeah, have you looked at the state of the fucking market today, Gigi?
Yes, I have.
Okay, but not all of them are down like 40%. That's crazy.
Nice.
I mean, looked at Solana today.
I have, I have. I have percent. I mean, looked at Solana today. I have.
I have.
I have. I mean, everything's kind of fucked.
Where's fart coin?
Not the precious fart coin.
That is one thing we're not going to disperse.
Oh, my God.
It's barely holding on to 300.
Yeah, that flip's going to be generational, bro.
Oh, it has to flip fart coin.
It's not happening
Good luck
Good luck to the troops
And the twerkers
Don't worry, Dip Wheeler's got you
Who's twerking?
Dip is on testicle
He's on his testicle
Ah, well, then you got no one left, buddy
Wintermute's got you, twin
Bro, bro Oh, I thought you meant for a buttcoin Ah, well, then you got no one left, buddy. No. Wintermute's got you, twin.
Bro, bro.
Oh, I thought you meant for Butcoin.
Who's front man for Butcoin?
The guy that fucking made the farm in 2011 that Sam Altman commented a huddle under?
I don't know.
Whoever has the biggest dump truck.
So we're back to comments from 2020.
No, no.
Hey, oh God, you're so retarded.
Nah, I'm not getting rage.
I'm taking a nap.
Bro, I'm not trying to rage bait you.
No, no, no, no, no. You're retarded, bro.
No, no, you're actually retarded, bro.
I'm buying memes for the sake of memes.
Oh, yeah, Sam Altman.
Yes, I am.
It's literally the best lore of any meme coin that exists, bro.
Sam Altman commented on it fucking 10 years ago.
Hi, bro.
Hi, bro.
Adam DM made a show me a coin a couple days ago that's down 20%.
Which one was that?
I don't remember.
I don't know.
You'll have to look.
Oh, yeah.
That was good.
That was good.
Wow.
That was actually really good.
Wow.
First time I smiled in a while.
That was good.
They got three days to do anything or that goes to
zero like if you don't crush if you don't crush avn week right now that starts tomorrow like just
run that one to the fucking toilet dude i wasn't even at right now i haven't even looked i'm
probably down like 30 grand 17 or something oh god al now that you're here guess what i used
your fucking special fucking token to to buy some shit
on the easy website uh yesterday wait hold on for the record let's just say this i was wrong first
off but i didn't lose that much i did all right because of the fucking dips i did lose money
but there is no coin more stable in all of crypto over the last fucking 90 days than fucking easy
coin bro it just doesn't move it just sits at
340 to 360 and it's like like they might as well just make that the stable coin currency and like
take that over because it's like so stuck where it's at i'm not saying there's liquidity to back
any of this up but like it's actually like if you look at find me a chart that looks more stable
aside from like tether over the last 90 days than that fucking going.
No, I was not trolling at all either.
Like it's, it's actually like you can, I used it on the site is you can use it on the site
now.
Yeah, you can.
I was not trolling at all.
Like I, it's kind of interesting that they're like letting, I mean, it can't be good just
based on everything else, but like, I guess it's not like a terrible thing at least
it proved that fucking there was a next phase to it i mean they're just gonna sell all that
easy easy yeah yeah like you can tell when i was is that a meme token or i'm i'm on the side
like look like no no i'm just saying it's been stuck between 340 and 360 for four months.
Hasn't moved.
Like, don't be wrong.
It went from fucking high to low.
That's stable.
But once it hit that floor, it's just stuck at that.
Like, it's pretty much probably just denial of everybody who's holding it.
Always good volume.
Always good volume.
How much volume do they have?
I have no fucking clue.
I fucking sold out.
Like, everyone's so damn bad on it.
Like, they just don't want to sell.
So they keep that stable. Listen, I mean, you guys know I love to talk shit about it. no clue i sold out like everyone's so damn bad on it like they just don't want to sell
i mean you guys know you guys know i love to talk about it but like it's almost the same thing with like ufd the people who are in there while it's at 9 to 12 14 million those people will never sell
it's like the same way that like board apes can't go to zero they can go to one ether
or a half an ether some random number but like they actually can't go to zero because there's
a point where like people just sit here and fucking hold the l for the rest
of their life doesn't really matter like certain things can't actually go to zero like oh yeah if
it sucks why isn't it at zero like you know three eth board ape is basically zero fucking you know
like certain shit is zero it's just you'll never actually see zero because when you realize 98 99
percent down like what the fuck is the point do you
really want to fucking take that and risk that like something could happen i know fucking you
know call it what it is same thing like it's the same thing with fucking ufd like that's a perfect
i went on the site yesterday and i was just like, oh shit. Like I was like tapping into it.
And I was just like, okay, you can use credit or debit USDC or DZ or something called fucking
Sezzle, which is like basically another Klarna.
And I was like, you can actually use it to buy shit.
I was just like, okay, let me buy it.
You can also just sell it and buy it.
And it's the same conversion.
I was just like, you know, it's interesting.
That's all it was. I was just like, I i'm it's interesting to kind of see that they integrated it
wait that validates that he was involved that's why i was just surprised that you said you could
use it like call it what it is like they're still i'm not saying i think he was like sober and in
the right state of mind like i don't think a contract signed during that period would have
fucking held in court for anything but i mean i've always said like you know
call it what it is i was wrong on a lot of other shit with that one and luckily like dca didn't
play the pump well so like i didn't lose fucking 150 grand i lost like 20 grand and walked away
but like is what it is i mean there was always that was always kind of official even if you want
to call it like just a bunch of retards in your corner
damn celere coins are cut it's kind of crazy to think i wonder what i wonder what like i wonder
when you buy on the website right now when it goes to a wallet what that wallet goes to and
like what's being what's happening with that that's like my like curiosity point oh i can like are people like like follow your transaction see where it went and see if like
they're doing like the yuga like as soon as you buy a t-shirt we immediately sell it type of shit
i can check uh in a little bit just yeah i'm sure i could do the same i'm gonna look from the wallet
that you gotta pay with but i didn't realize that they actually made it ever go live yeah i was i
was just kind of shook genuinely i was like was, like, talking to somebody about it, and I went on the site, and I was like, oh,
shit, let me buy some of this, just for shits and giggles, just to test it out, but...
Fair enough.
What'd you buy?
A pair of boots, two box tees, and, yeah, that's it for right now, but I was just...
I love that you call them boxed tees.
Yeah, I kind of
begged you for the wet tank top, but whatever.
No, they're boxed tees. They're shaped like
a fucking box, so they're fucking boxed tees.
Yeah, there's tank tops too.
The parka's kind of cool too and the leather jacket, but I was
just like, nah, I'm not trying to go.
Some of the shit that they threw on there is better.
I mean, finally, like, listen, what's saving him is
getting away from the $20 fucking thing that he was stuck on.
Like, you're just going to fucking get burned
that way. Like, prices are still fair
on everything that's on there and
profitable.
100%. Did you watch the Miami game
yesterday? Miami, Indiana?
I didn't really want to watch football,
but, like, I flipped it on and off a little bit.
Like, that Mendoza fucking run was retarded.
Dude, that was so sick. What a Supermanza fucking run was retarded. Dude, that was
sick. What a Superman hero
of a play, dude. Yeah, do you see fucking
what's his name? Owner of the Raiders?
The fuck is the guy who owns the Raiders?
Was that picture real of him talking to the stripper?
Yeah, I mean, that was real and so was the one
of him standing on the end zone watching
everything Mendoza did because you know that
you got first pick.
I'm going to assume at this point Mendoza's a Raider next year.
Bro, that guy needs to not be involved.
He needs to get Tom Brady's approval for everything.
I just looked it up.
It is Mark Davis.
You see all the people mad that they were putting Abella Danger all over the fucking TV yesterday?
I don't know what you're talking about. Abeella abella danger is that porn star yeah they were like yeah they were like showing her
like between like every commercial break during the fucking game and then like after the game
oh my god that's nasty got iceberg all fucking rock hard right now i'm not rock hard
she probably hopped the fucking red eye and made it to fucking Vegas today for ABNs tomorrow.
Okay.
Okay.
Wait, Chicago, is that how your PFP, is that how you have to go to games in Chicago?
Like that wrapped up?
That is what I wore to the game Sunday.
Oh my God.
No, the goggles aren't mine.
I took them from this chick and they were kind of like HD looking things.
So I put them on for the picture.
I didn't really need the goggles, just to be fair.
I had a shysty.
I was good without that, but it was kind of funny.
No, but Chicago, I want to say something to you, man.
Your dog is so fucking sweet, man.
With a bear outfit.
I love bear because of your dog, man.
Fuck Denver, man.
Fuck Alpha.
You know what else is sweet?
Fucking Chicago in a shysty.
Alan, a fucking shysty, is also sweet as fuck, too.
Like, there's the things I would do to him.
Alpha, isn't Caleb Williams like your hero?
But, I mean, to each their own.
Caleb Williams is, I mean, he's, they got violated.
Like it's, it's not.
There's only one man in the United States that isn't gay for wearing nail polish and it's not alpha.
So when you, when you meet right him, do you, do you just straight hop on or do you just like, you know, lubricate it up a little bit?
I'm not answering.
Are you buying it right now? The difference is one of them's a goat one of them's a spaces host who doesn't get paid by
anybody except toshi and only gets sent to football games when al bots is fucking like
so he can go for free
uh but what you're well you're welcome again for the experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, did you see I'm catching heat now?
For some...
Bro, somebody has a...
You should have known when all of a sudden your last 200 likes were all Indians.
Bro, thank you.
So, bro, I'm not paying attention to who the hell...
I got you to a game for $7.
Thank you, Al.
You're so goaded for that.
I actually did it because I bet Buffalo and I wanted you in the stadium
so I could fucking win, but that's another story.
The curse is broken.
Yeah, the curse is fucking broken.
Yeah, except they don't have a fucking quarterback anymore.
You won the game and lost your quarterback.
Like, cool fucking tradeoff.
And that is not me uh who
had any part to do with it i think somebody did some voodoo hoodoo fucking magic uh i don't know
what the hell is going on i'd like they i'm surprised they haven't said anything like there
was like a whole big story about how like nobody released the security cameras of after the game
and they're like hiding them like my guess is like i mean i've rolled my fucking ankle a couple
times and like it was never once it was but the other times like it took an hour two hours before it was like really
like oh i fucked myself up like you can still go pretty good on it until that and it was
so like you probably didn't feel it as much that's what i'm saying i think i i think it was pretty
probably legit but i can't see the play where he fucking took it like that hard if it was the one
that i see like like i just questioned like whether it was that or like motherfucker
tripped going down the stairs on the way back to the locker room and nobody wants to fucking say
he's retarded i mean adrenaline is a real fucking thing too yeah yeah dude absolutely that's what
i'm saying it's either that play that you see and it doesn't look as bad but he did roll it like
when i've rolled my fucking ankle good like three times, bro,
and only one was alcohol-related.
And that was the time where it took like two hours for me to realize
that I'm not going to walk for the next two, three weeks.
Yeah, but who broke ankle in Chicago in the game?
Was it Denver?
Denver's quarterback.
Quarterback, yeah.
So they won the game, and now he's out for the season.
Listen, dude, I'm going to say this.
Stidham isn't bad.
Like, I liked this fucking kid when he came in the league.
So, like, I'm not ruling you guys fucking out.
Like, I don't think it really matters.
Seattle wins the fucking Super Bowl.
There's no question in my fucking mind.
Like, nobody fucking beats Seattle.
I didn't want to fucking have to play him even if we beat the fucking Rams.
Like, I'm not going to pretend like I was going to
go to fucking Seattle and be like alright we got these
fucking pussies like no like
I did feel that way against the Rams but like
nobody's fucking beating Seattle
now that we're out I can safely fucking say it out loud
like nobody's fucking touching them
I don't give a fuck who it is
I mean
we'll see it's a wait and see game
it is a wait and fucking see game, I guess.
Also, what is this thing that I'm seeing all over my timeline?
People are promoting this.
I don't even know if I want to say its name.
The Ponzi shit that fucking live Twitch has been talking about,
putting ref codes all over the world.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
He came out of space and everybody shut him the fuck out real quick.
Listen, I'll say the same thing I said there.
I mean, his answer was kind of like the Alpha GG answer, just to be super fair.
It was like, yeah, but Ponzi's are good if you get in early.
I'm not a big fan of you guys always glorifying fucking Ponzi's,
because by the time you hear about them, they are pretty much done and it's just hot potato.
But if you make money, I think the Ponzi's are the ones that you should almost make money in silence.
No matter what, 90% of the people who hear you pump it are going to lose money.
So the thing is, I'll, I've said this before, if it's a novel Ponzi or somebody who's brand, like a brand new Ponzi with a team that's really unknown, I'm willing to try it out.
But if it's like the third or fourth fucking iteration from the same fucking.
No, no, I'm with the promoting of it i think
is a little difference than like playing in silence you know yeah but if you see a pattern
and you see it works out for like the first two weeks wouldn't you like be i'm not gonna play it
but wouldn't you be tempted to like try and make a little bread no matter what like it's one of
those things you have to be like active and play like i'm not saying that like i've never fucking
jumped in any of these things and like tried to make book, but if it was a require of posting about it or talking about it or glorifying that Ponzi's are okay,
they're really not.
I've never loved it.
I've never given you guys shit.
It is what it is.
It's part of crypto, just like everything else.
Just like altcoins, just like me.
No, I know.
I'm with you on that, but actually recognizing what it is and then still kind of playing it,
there needs more disclosures between it. you know it's not going to be good
but i'm okay with like if anybody wants to make money on any of these fucking things like cool
i just think that like the glorifying that like ponzi's are good was always like my like low-key
like light issue with some of this like ponzi's make money it's like cool like you know sort of
selling heroin i mean ponzi's are only good if you get in
super early. After that,
you're pretty good. I know, but by the time you guys
are talking about it on fucking Spaces,
that's rarely the fucking time where shit's
going to go too well.
No, that's fine.
They hit a lot in Chicago.
They hit a lot.
They're making it
very MLM, so you have
to do, I think, the more referrals, the more people that use your code.
Which is the issue I have.
That's the issue I have with it.
If you can make money in silence and fucking somebody's going to do it, cool.
But when you have to refer people into it to make it work, I don't know, do you really want that money?
You really want that money?
Like that kind of a logic.
That kind of a logic.
Like most of the people that do refer down the chain of command
are just going to lose money that's going to go back up the top to you
and whoever rugs it the biggest.
And I believe this is their fourth game.
So this is their fourth go at it.
And even for the last one, which was the weed game, the addicted game,
the account itself, like Pandemic Lab said, yeah, we didn't do so.
I don't remember the exact wordage, but they were like, yeah, that one wasn't it.
But we're going to do it again.
When you get Jonah talking about strains of weed, you know it's the top.
I mean, it was Jonah.
Not only Jonah, it was fucking Anon.
Yes, AlphaCo, fucking Anon.
I didn't play that shit at all.
I didn't play that one.
Fair enough. Listen, I get it. It is what it is like i just played ponzi uh fucking months ago but it was fun for
yeah so did i fucking uh what was it called uh oh yuga gpu oh yeah yuga like i fucking lost money
in that ponzi for sure i i was talking about the gpu one and it was low-key cooking and i was like
making my money back every day,
like 50,
Oh no,
it was like a few hundred bucks a day.
I was able to claim across all of my,
even when the token was like sitting at like 50 or 60 K.
And then you see the founder just pull the fucking liquidity.
I'm just like,
bro,
just sitting on my ass and I'm getting,
instead of a few hundred bucks a day,
I'm getting 12 cents a day.
And I'm just like, okay, here we fucking go again. Uh, my ass and i'm getting instead of a few hundred bucks a day i'm getting 12 cents a day and i'm
just like okay here we fucking go again uh but what the fuck i forgot the screenshot when ape
staking was making me 270 000 a month oh god that is that's a different like when that pops
up on facebook memories i'm like fuck am i retarded? You made money on Apes?
I mean, I didn't really lose.
I did sell a lot. Like, I lost a lot of money in this
fucking... I round-tripped a ton of money, but like,
lucky for me in most Yuga shit, like,
I lost seven figures on fucking other side.
I lost seven figures on 10KTF, but
like, most of my Yuga
shit fucking round-tripped, pretty
much like, even as a whole, because
Yeah, because they didn't deliver.
One scam.
I wouldn't even call it didn't deliver.
I would say the fucking fentanyl didn't do his job, but whatever.
Yeah, but the Activision guy, they were bringing an Activision guy who was involved in gaming and all that.
It was nothing.
They launched the other side with they launched other side with
pictures of land and no plan at the beginning i thought i won't even get into like confirmation
of it but like it's fucked it is what it is we all made dumb mistakes the biggest fucking move
the biggest rule in this fucking space is you know don't lose everything and don't make the
same mistake twice and if you make it twice like don't make it three times like you know like we're
allowed a fucking little bit of whatever nobody i mean you'll never meet anybody in fucking crypto who fucking
didn't make a fucking terrible mistake that they regret crypto or nfts is what it is but
that other side shit was actually one of the most insane things i've ever seen on just like
just being on x on for crypto like people were paying each other for kyc fucking accounts
bro thousands of dollars they spent more on gas oh that was the kid the kid the kid that crushed
that on all that kyc was the same kid that i was like envious of because i had just ripped fucking
the mirakami flowers and like that was still my biggest win and like the same kid who fucking
made 15 million dollars on that Mirakami flower raffle
was the same kid that was doing all those KYC
accounts with foreigners.
And then selling those accounts.
That was a wild fucking time.
Yeah, but Mirakami was legit, man.
Because he's an artist.
No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
Was it?
I mean, not really.
Was it legit that an artist
put out an artist fucking, put out an art project?
Sure.
But like the fact that those things launched pre-reveal at fucking eight, I mean, I sold
fucking 300 of them at fucking eight ETH apiece.
Like literally, I mean, I made five million bucks in 12 hours.
Like, and I fucking regret that I didn't make more because it was the easiest fucking thing ever to buy, like, out of anything I've ever done in my life.
But to anybody who was like, oh, this is going to be big when you can buy fucking original works from Mirakami before he fucking became Joe Biden and his nephews took over the company.
Like, I mean, I believe Mirakami is a timeless artist, but I artist but i believe anything post 2015 16 like you're not even really buying his shit like you know you're buying
what his nephews fucking licensed out to somebody like you know like that's my whole thing like
those were those seeds were 25 000 yeah i understand people were fucking all the first
sales were all manipulated because they sold so many seeds and then they also had the artifact
community basically pumping it that if a clone with a mirakami trait that you don't own the
license to is worth this much imagine how much this is going to be worth you know like that was
really like i mean i could i really believe that at this point ai could fucking slop together that
entire collection if you said like make me flowers in the style of Mirakami, make them fucking 16-bit or 8-bit or whatever the fuck it is.
You know, it's not, there was nothing to that.
Yeah, I understand that.
And now he's dropping, and now they keep dropping shit still.
Like, they just did a mint this week for fucking 1.4 ETH.
Like, what fucking year are these kids in?
You got the trading cards, you got the fucking this.
Like, they're just milking it, fucking...
It's not that I didn't think there was any value,
but, like, I definitely thought it was overvalued
from the very start, that's why I sold them all at fucking
6, 7, 8, 8. I understand you, bro.
I understand you. Another thing is,
like, I understand you when it comes to Japanese
artists. Another Japanese who
was artist, big artist,
who was involved with
Francis. You remember Francis? With Diplo and all that shit? It was a fucking Japanese was artists big artists who was involved with involved with francis you you remember francis
with diplo and all that shit it was a fucking japanese artist who was doing some polka dot
skins on francis and people were like bidding like mirakami fucking you know like call it what
it is like i mean i i have fucking 50 mirakami pieces but like i stopped buying mirakami when
fucking i realized that
he doesn't know his own name like that's when i like stop like you know like when he started
running like everything licensed put your flower on everything like you know is what it is and i
mean main reason i fucking lie i mean he had his early shit i mean i still think he's got the best
louis collection that's ever came not the fucking remake but the original camo one i mean you did
one of the most
iconic album covers of all fucking time you know like call it like there's plenty of things like i
think p i think peak mirakami is one of the you know greatest of these fucking generations but i
think that what you're getting right now is nothing like that like i really don't think if you put him
on a lie detector and ask him if he released something he'd have any idea what you're talking
about like he's really at the old scene he's like the hello kitty of the
art world where he's just licensed himself out way too much yeah he was going bankrupt and then
the fucking nephews came in and they're the ones who are pouring him out like a gambling addiction
i think that was the story i might have heard some shit like that but i mean they you know
he blew through a bunch of fucking money like it is what it is like and they took over i mean you know it's it's literally he's the art
world's asian joe biden he has no idea what he's doing but he's still fucking at the top
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If you got something that you guys are genuinely looking at in the market right now, please put it in the comments and we'll definitely check that shit out.
Especially right now like what what i've seen especially recently is like there's a lot of just new things
or people uh kind of venturing out to like new places and just crypto in general i don't know
it's because the market's so volatile but like people become kind of complacent me included
where i'm just like okay but like i'm comfortable in my holdings not looking at a bunch of new
things but definitely looking at i don't know if you guys do
have anything you guys want to check out just put in the comments but uh yeah what's good we got
who have we yet to welcome what is good jbo what's happening dude how we doing today you
watch that bloodbath this morning when the markets open absolute classic bro absolute classic gotta
love the market shit in their classic bro absolute classic gotta love the
market shit in their pants to everything donnie does that guy blinks and they shit themselves
yeah bro kind of expected though to be honest with you like i kind of figured that was gonna
happen like i don't know if i set it in here if i just set it in michael space last night but i was
calling for a sweep of those lows to go down to like that 88 to 89 range to basically hit the factory reset button but we'll see if the markets just took
today as the red day and we'll recover tomorrow but i don't know dude looks a little dicey right
now we'll see how it holds up we don't hold that 88 8 like 89 2 pocket it's gonna be a little rough
though i'm not gonna lie i really didn't like the fact
that we couldn't stay over 91 350 because that's like the most important level so the fact that
we couldn't hold that has me a little worried now i feel like we might retest some lower levels
because of that damn uh i hate to say it to be honest with you like i was actually getting a
little happy it looked like we
were having a little bit of bullish but i feel like this is like right into what i was telling
you like pump into you know a couple weeks before valentine's day or right before valentine's day
and then dump out until the early summer i feel like i'm a fucking just repeating myself at this
point but it just keeps happening bro i don't know until wrong i'm
or proven otherwise i'm just gonna keep cooking the way i have been i didn't take your advice and
i went long multiple times back to back to back and i got liquidated three times uh in a row
jesus christ bro i literally gave you the entry i told like honestly i put it in the chat this
morning like they're not that chat but a different one this morning. And it literally was exactly what I was talking about last night.
Like, if you had limit orders in that tight range, it went down, hit that, and then bounced like $2,000.
Granted, we round tripped and came right back down to where the lows were.
But if you had caught that entry, that was the entry for the trade for sure.
It was off that 88 fib.
They're saying the um bitcoin pump was because
michael saylor bought like um yeah he bought 2.1 billion dollars i got a coinbase notification i
was like this dude sees like a five percent dip and he's like you know two billion dollars at
least he's not top blasting for once no i was told that was where the pump came from and then
oh no that's 100 where the pump was and then Oh, no, that's 100% where the pump was.
And then they're like, yeah, let's dump on his head.
After he buys, there's always like a follow-up.
Isn't this super bearish for Bitcoin?
Like if he owns too much supply?
If he never sells, no.
I love how like any shitcoin,
if we saw anybody had more than 2%,
we'd be like, yo, I don't know about this one, guys.
This guy could nuke the chart.
And we're like, Bitcoin, he's got like 12%. Nah, just didn't send it that was a random number he doesn't actually have 12 i just
pulled number out of my ass but you know what i mean yes he has a pretty big percentage now i
don't know what it is but like it's getting to where it's like all right this is i think
sailor six is what i thought it was i'm gonna look it up real quick also i did want we we got
fucking serpent up here it has been
a fucking minute since serpent has been up here but what's good serpent how are you doing it
oh i'm doing pretty good i mean i've been vibe coding during this time on mondays and wednesdays
for so long that like on my live stream and stuff and i stopped doing that recently for uh the
vibathon that we're doing so yeah i got some free time on my hands lately and it feels good to be back.
Thanks for having me.
Wait, what are you vibe coding?
Well, I've been vibe coding for the past six months.
I do live streams on Monday and Wednesday
and I teach people how to build shit
with vibe coding on using ethos for something.
Like there was someone that,
ZachXPT asked for the app
that like mutes all the like Kaido people and so like one time we vibe coded that i just like showed people how to write
it um then i used ethos scores in it so i've been trying to teach people because i think it's really
powerful and i can like kind of apply it back to ethos in a way um but instead we turned it into a
vibe vibathon where people right now are competing for prizes,
on like through the ethos hackathon,
basically they put together.
So yeah,
that's kind of what it evolved into.
Definitely a dub.
bro,
I've seen like a crazy uptake on my timeline of just like ethos content,
especially with the whole trove situation that did go down.
It's because drama,
drama feeds ethos, right?
Like, drama is the flywheel, basically.
It's kind of nuts, though.
But, yeah.
Have you seen, like, a crazy uptick?
Like, what are people...
I don't know.
Like, one thing that we said, even since the beginning,
when you first came into the space,
like, we need, like, platforms like ethos
to kind of have all the information in one place,
especially if somebody's
looking to partner with somebody if somebody's looking to to kind of get tapped into a community
see what the hell has happened in the past good actor bad actor blah blah blah yes it could
potentially get manipulated in the future but it's like a great place to kind of get started
especially if somebody new is kind of coming into the space but uh no there there's no but. And we're seeing that in real time,
especially after the whole situation did kind of play out,
whether it's Wale, whether it's a couple of these other actors.
I know Kook also did get called out.
But yeah, it's been a solid place to kind of look at it.
Yeah, I mean, it's been really interesting.
I totally appreciate and understand why anyone
might think ethos is flawed or they don't think that it will work um or you think it's just a
circle jerk contest or whatever it might be but like one of the things that I have noticed around
me is people that are getting slashed people that feel like there is some accountability to things now,
I think that impact is felt across many people right now. And it's not going to change how,
you know, notorious scammers act, but it is going to set a precedent for others that like,
hey, man, if you undisclosed shill something and you got paid, the precedent now is that
a bunch of people are probably going to decide that you should lose some of your credibility
score, that we should put this on chain forever, and that other people can go see it. And I think
that presence, which is not something that you can see perfectly. I feel like that presence is felt and kind of
shown on the timeline today. The flip side of that is, you know, we're working with lots of
companies now in terms of bringing credible people to those companies to either grow from or to target
for their launch or sometimes to target for things like deals. And the thing that we hear a lot is,
man, you guys are awesome.
We use ethos every time we want to do a brand deal
and we're not sure of who this person is.
And we want to make sure that, you know,
you don't want someone that consensus shows
is untrustworthy promoting your product,
especially if you don't like align
with that philosophy at all,
right? So like, the brands are starting to get to just be a little bit smarter about what they can
utilize this data to ensure that they're not being misrepresented or being represented by people that
they they might want to avoid. So I'm starting like, you know, this is a long game, you go
started about a year ago, like, starting to see the impacts of that. And again, like, you know, this is a long game. It was started about a year ago. Like, I'm starting to see the impacts of that.
And, again, you can hate it.
You can love it.
But I think the impact is starting to get felt a little bit.
A hundred percent.
One question I did have, though.
So, Wale, this is the situation I'm looking at on your guys' platform right now.
Involved in an undisclosed ad for scam projects.
And people are basically voting
whether to slash or defend him but like if you scroll down a little bit uh it says dr jones
super sane vine 742 others will lose scores if the slash is successful 15 000 total credibility
score is at stake uh with this one person getting slashed.
Like, what's, yeah, what's the thought process there?
Yeah, I mean, over time, the big thing that we learned and a critical piece of feedback
is like, you know, there's a lot of blind support on this.
It's like, oh, well, I know him, so I'll write a positive review, right?
Oh, I know this guy.
He's not going to do anything wrong.
Well, just like
crypto everything must carry risk when you buy an asset in crypto it can go up it can go down you
could risk all of your money it could go to zero or it could go to infinity and you buy a land
them um you need the risk side of it and so one of the things we introduced probably I don't know
six months ago was if you write a review or vouch for
someone and you increase their score, you are basically publicly stating that you trust that
person. And it turns out that they did something bad. They get slashed. Then you yourself can lose
a part of that credibility score because you were supporting someone who did something net negative
to corporate society. And that's where you add the extra layer of accountability beyond just like,
oh, everyone supported him. It's like, well, everyone that supported him now is going to
feel the penalty of supporting him and putting him up there. And I think that was a really,
really important piece for us to add into the equation to make sure it's not just like a total like dick sucking fast for a better word
that might be the best thing i've heard about ethos just to be super fair like that might be
the part i like the most like i mean it's a lot that you would say that no no when we talked at
the beginning like like the only thing i like said any negative is i thought it could be manipulated
and i thought people pumping the token was kind of fucking weird, even though you fucking debunked that right at the beginning.
So, like, I was cool with that.
Like I said, like, I didn't know if the platform makes sense.
But, like, that's why I don't put my fucking name on anybody.
You know, like, I just really don't.
Like, I wouldn't be on here.
I never made a review on Ethos, never cared to.
But it's also because there's not many people aside from, like, you know, people I know in real life and life and shit like this that i'd like really vouch if it had any impact with no positive gain
yeah and to be fair like that's how a lot of people view it right like why would i go positively
say something about someone else unless i like either 100 trusted them or you're like on the
other end of the spectrum and you're like i don don't give a shit. I'll review everyone. And, and so like,
it is actually a very good way for us to fight Sybil's and,
and like the circle jerking and shit like that too. We're like, okay,
you're in like a little circle jerk farm.
Like one dude jerked a little too hard. Now he got slashed.
And now all of them lose credibility score. And they're all like, Whoa,
what the hell? And it's just, it's, it's a and it's just it's it's a again it's
such a tough thing because like ethos is such a interesting idea but needs people to use it to
learn how to adapt and so we've learned and adapted over the last year and this is some of the stuff
that's come out of it and and i think it's working really well i think it like i think that guy feels
kind of bad that he's going to lose people's credibility score.
I think, you know, the people that support him are like, whoa, you kind of fucked me over here.
Like, I don't know if I believe in you anymore, bro.
Like, I just, I think it's had a really, it's really made people think a little bit more.
Do you get anything for leaving a review?
Like, is there any impact to your shit by positively reviewing people?
No, not right now.
So it's like only on
good faith basically but that's better like if there was yeah then you're gonna get more of that
you shouldn't get you shouldn't get rewarded for saying i vouch for somebody right you should get
negatively impacted but shouldn't get rewarded that's why for lack of a better it also probably
hurts you because who the fuck wants to leave reviews for anybody it's a tricky problem to solve right but yeah you have to think about it like uh like google reviews like if if you read
a google review for a restaurant you might get value out of it by saying oh yeah that was actually
helpful like i went to this restaurant and ate there because a bunch of other people went there
but the deal is like no one gets incentivized to like write those reviews on google views they're
pretty authentic uh they don't allow people to get to they don't allow restaurants to pay people to review them so um that maintaining
that like balance and lack of bias is definitely a tricky part of it but I think we've done a pretty
good job so far I feel like people write reviews when they have negative experiences more than
positive experiences though so I feel like it's kind of swayed because like personally if i go to a restaurant or some shit like that and i have a terrible experience yeah
i'd probably write a bad review but like if i go there and i'm like wow this is the best steak i've
ever had i'm probably not going to go on there and be like hey let me write a positive review
i've never done that once but i've written like a half a dozen negative ones for example
the only people who leave positive reviews are people that like they're supporting their
friend's business or there was a sign on the counter that said, like, leave a review for 10% off your next purchase.
Literally, or they're like a food reviewer, particularly, and they brought them in there and gave them the work that it was picture perfect, you know?
But that's human nature, right? Instinctively, we're triggered more so by agitation and frustrating experiences.
And we actually receive more stimuli in our brain as a result of that, right?
That's exactly why so many people have negative experiences on social media.
It's because the algorithm is the exact same thing, right?
Serpent, I had just two points of critiques here.
I talk about this all the time.
First of all, I'm a fan of yours.
I think ethos can be very useful in the future, I'm a fan of yours. I think ethos can be
very useful in the future.
I'm very critical of it
often though.
Two things.
That's the only way
to build something good, right?
You have to have critique.
You have to have feedback.
Otherwise,
it's the wrong thing.
Absolutely.
And every time I am critical
of your platform,
I point out that
I think you're
a well-intentioned person
and I think ethos
can be very useful in the future even though I personally, anyway, to the point, um, I
was on, uh, I, I started using it for a couple of weeks.
Uh, me and my co-host had the world of women, uh, team on at one point.
And I went to look at, um, Sweet Pea's account and her account says questionable, which I thought was interesting because she's like a kind of like she's a team member of a major brand.
So I guess the question there is like, is there a way for, you know, more relevant people to maybe sidestep the process?
And then just quickly, the other point of critique that I had is as I was doing the daily tasks for those couple of weeks, I just like I didn't see a single person that I even know or recognize.
So I just found it very difficult to like give thumbs up or thumbs downs regularly.
I'm sure you've probably heard that a lot.
Do you have any kind of like, I don't know, some kind of algorithmic plan to put people
in front of other people who they may have already like had an experience with?
Yes.
Two very good questions.
Yeah.
The latter is very difficult because Twitter's API, they want $50,000 to know who you follow
a month, which is crazy, right?
So I don't want to drain my business to $0 in the bank account by paying Twitter for
that.
And that's the easiest way for us to get a good idea of like, okay, who should be put in front of this person at daily tasks?
If you contribute more, you will see more people that you, if you contribute more, meaning you write reviews for your friends, then you will see those people in the daily tasks more.
Now, I just want to set it straight.
Like, I don't expect everyone to do the daily tasks. A lot of people will get bored with it and get repetitive.
It's just a fun thing to do if you're interested in it. You have to think about it as if you're
contributing, you're basically giving your opinion. You're trying to create value for other people.
And sometimes it's not going to be fun and sometimes it's going to feel forced and that's
totally okay. You might not feel like you're the person. I'm not the person personally that personally that's like i'm gonna go fucking review everything that i've ever bought on amazon i'm not
that guy i like to review on ethos but it's my product um so it's not unusual that you might get
burnt out on it um or that it might not be super relevant now there are ways that i want to improve
that for sure i think there are ways that we can can improve it to make it so that more people are contributing more often.
It's just hard without the Twitter API, to be honest.
The second thing that, or the first thing technically that you asked me was about people like Sweet Pea,
who I personally don't have a lot of familiarity with, but she does have two reviews on Ethos.
We have tried to find ways to give people more credibility
based on some of their social metrics the challenge is the social metrics are just
really easy to hack and bullshit and i feel like that's like the easiest thing that people abuse
for sure um so she does get a little bit from her social graph meaning like any existing uh places
that we can pull from,
like her X account, basically she gets 11 points from.
The biggest problem is her X account is less than a year old,
which I thought was kind of interesting.
Yeah, she's not been like a major participant on X,
which is like, you know, it's kind of a weird thing for someone in the Web3 space,
but it's not unheard of.
And I guess what i'm saying is
like you know maybe you know maybe maybe people who do have like super high scores could vouch for
her or i guess that's just a straight up question if you have if you have a super high credibility
does your vouch for someone count more oh yeah my my reviews definitely do yeah so if i review
she has two reviews someone 1500 and someone 1293 So she's not getting a big boost from there.
If I reviewed her, she would get a way bigger boost because I'm at 2,600 or something.
It's like ELO and chess.
You measure the difference between the two and you apply more.
Now, I think, interestingly, your two questions do go hand in hand.
Like, oh, how do I get people that are relevant to me in front of me?
And how do I get people that I know that I think should be higher to a higher score?
Like, if we put those people in front of you, then that problem kind of solves itself, too.
It's a tricky one because ethos depend so much on, like, people reviewing each other that, like, I get the feedback.
It's like, oh, it's all a circle jerk.
And you're like, well, most of the score comes from like you circle jerking someone else. I'm sorry.
That's just how it works. Right? Like you have to go support your buddy on the
platform. That's literally how it's designed. If you don't have the circle jerk,
then I don't know who's in the jerk and who's not in the jerk.
And sorry to keep going on the metaphor or whatever, but like it's,
it is helpful to understand that. That is an important part of
it because I know you guys know alpha and maybe that helps me understand who you are. But if I
saw you randomly on the internet and I don't know who you are, I might not think anything of you
because I just don't know you. And so knowing who trusts who is a big part of it. And without that,
we can't give people credibility
because there's like 99% of Twitter accounts
are just complete bullshit.
And so unfortunately for Sweet B,
she gets grouped in these like people
that are under a year old on Ethos or on X.
And therefore it like, you know,
fits in with like 99% of the criteria
of being a bot on X, to be fair.
So it's a little tough.
I figured at a year in,
we'd have this problem a little bit better solved but there's always going to be cases where like
ah shit actually like this person should be much better than questionable right now
well but is it a reputational issue like like you know the best like kols who are very honest
are joining ethos and are giving good information, and being very organic.
It's going to be like that, you know?
Because ethos, I saw Deez.
Deez was talking about ethos.
I've been trusting Deez for a long time, and Deez is fucking amazing by giving information.
He doesn't fucking care. And those kind of guys who are very honest and organic
getting caught
on and being the KOLs
of ethos, that's the main thing.
I've been in spaces with ethos
and finding out there's a lot
of people who are very organic
and want to give good information
for other people
on Twitter or whatever it is
be the fucking shamans of crypto.
That's what I think about ethos.
And that's good.
That's clean.
That's clean.
And it's not slap, but it's good people.
And reputational is about who you are following.
Good KOLs, not KOLs, but good developers and CTs
that you follow, like CT, like Kobe and fucking Bantek
and like Samson.
And those guys have been for like years and years.
And these and those guys have been for years and years and these. I think people
forget how important
social, just
social, not social
score, what is it called?
Social proof.
Social credit.
It's all
extremely important. I think it's one of the
most important.
It's one of the most important it's all about the most
currency over currency yeah well what about bridging the gap between kind of the intangible
of social credit and actual behaviors that can be measured if that makes sense and i know i'm
probably not like turning a stone that hasn't been on over underturned already but looking at
on-chain behavior for example and looking at relationships between wallets and transactions
and styles of trades and behavior.
And then seeing how that correlates with social behavior to assess just how authentic and genuine a person really is.
Is that something you guys have been working on or consider?
Yeah, it's definitely a more advanced level of ethos that I've thought about.
A good example would be like you could have an opinion on Solana and never use Solana.
But your opinion about Solana is probably much more nuanced
and helpful if you've actually used it.
And that's a really lame example because it's Solana, right?
I don't use Solana, hopefully.
We might find out some of the bankless guys in there.
Well, I feel like it's nice for some of these big guys
because some of the big influencers,
it's like they might not all be good.
They just got numbers because they bought their account or whatever so it's like actually having like
something real that you intangible that you can see that they're credible or not and people like
you said that have actually genuinely interacted with them before they can actually vouch to say
you know what this guy's rugged me 37 different times right right you know undisclosed shills and
like that so it's definitely nice to have something like
those were affected from being suspended on twitter absolutely and i'm glad it is it does
not look out it does not look i can see it in the in the space right now it says 950 so
you got some work to do well no this is like a burner account the burner account is uh it's
reflected correctly because it's supposed to be questionable right now because it's a fresh account.
On this account or my main account?
On this account, you showed nine.
This account is like a month old and I've never done anything.
Hopefully, we'll have the other one back.
I'm talking main account.
I don't remember what your main account is. I can go pull it up real quick.
You also look like
you're about to take my wallet.
I mean, allegedly.
Wait, you should do an
umbrella where like i can hypothetically if i had 12 burner accounts which i 100 do not
i could just like you know shit yeah i think we should definitely take points off alpha for the
barney account bro i have multiple fucking burner accounts but yes i folded under fucking pressure
uh no pressure absolutely but it's bro can I not have fun on burner?
Everybody has a fucking burner account.
Golden, you have your hand up.
Wait, wait.
Before you go to Golden.
I just looked up Chicago's main account.
And you got a negative review because somebody said, I bought 200 Sol of EZ.
That was one of them.
Hold on.
Can I also add that the point of a burner account is so nobody knows it's you.
So I don't know if Alpha knew that, if anybody wanted to let him know that.
It depends.
Sometimes you have a burner account because there's no other way to identify with people because somebody unjustly takes you down for copyright infringement because of your dog.
I also have a very noticeable
fucking voice, and I pop into
spaces on burner accounts sometimes, and
yeah, people figure out.
Yeah, but that one burner account you have, that
Ethiopians for Israel account, that one fucking
should definitely discredit you. Bro, what?
What do you have? Oh my god.
Ethiopians for fucking Israel?
Okay, okay, let me
reset. I don't have,'t have every single one of my fucking
burner accounts personalities whatever they have they they're full of personalities these accounts
are full like barney the dinosaur they're 100 full of fuck i don't know why i'm telling you guys this
uh golden you've had your hand is schizo that was the most schizo shit you've ever said literally bro good shit iceberg
he said my other personalities golden has had his hand up for a minute what's good golden
and then i think hey bladabir i think everybody interrupting me should have their ethos score
uh negative points for the last 10 minutes i have two questions they're all serious they may sound
like jokes but they're not first question on my daily tasks every day i get asked to review zagabon
as one of the 12 accounts or whatever i don't want to review zagabon anymore can we fix this
i thought we fixed it i thought we fixed no i'm literally every single day i'm not and this is not a criticism
although i guess it is every time zagabon no i don't give a fuck about zagabon um yeah but he
just walked the runway you gotta rate him now i know okay no all right it's a review for zagabon
that you're talking about though right yeah yeah yeah it's like people yeah and i'm like i don't
i don't care so and then the other question all right can we lower this the the
ability to slash other people to 1400 from 1600 because I got a lot I got a lot of hoes to slash
what's up okay yeah I wrote a PR for it last night so I'll get it merged today sure I literally I
had the same thought people were talking about it yesterday and they're like, I want to slash more.
And you're like, I mean, it's your, like, there's risk involved, right?
You slash someone, it goes against you, you lose the score.
So I'm all for it.
It got a little spammy originally, but I literally like wrote a PR last night to change it down to 1400.
Oh, really?
I had no idea.
That's amazing.
It's not live yet.
But yeah, we'll put it out there.
The magic of spaces.
We arrived at the same conclusion.
It's like giving gasoline to an arsonist.
Like giving him more gasoline than fire.
I mean, what did I say earlier, though?
Like the drama is the flywheel, right?
You have to understand your product for what it is sometimes.
Okay, first one.
Do I really have a negative slash for anti-Semitic fucking comments?
Is that really one of my reviews?
Yeah.
From bored at all, on top of all of it?
All right, let's do Jesse from Bass first.
Man, I need my account back so I can start reviewing motherfuckers.
I'm going to slash Jesse from Bass for being a hoe.
Bro, instead of...
Okay, it wouldn't be the first time he got slashed.
Or for promoting Solderboot.
Jesse has been slashed before.
I'm reviewing everybody for supporting genocide.
Okay, why don't we go back to, like, the use case of, like...
It's debatable whether it's a genocide.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
We're resetting fucking completely.
This is not a politics space.
This is a fucking cryptocurrency space.
Toshi, fuck this. I'm going to say this. Toshi is the real thing, bro. I bought completely. This is not a politics space. This is a fucking cryptocurrency space. Toshi, fuck this.
I'm going to say this.
Toshi is in the world.
I bought it.
I bought it.
Alpha is fucking close.
Okay, I'm going to go.
Like, comment, retweet the space.
We have very fucking notable builders in this space right now.
We have bad brothers.
We have an idiot.
We have Serpent.
I think Golden has built some things too.
Toshi Bets.
Like, we got some profits. We got some profits.
We got some builders up here.
So let's stay fucking serious for like two seconds.
And like, bro, just use the product if you have some legit shit to say.
Not just because somebody is fucking talking down on you or talking shit about you.
That's how these fucking products work.
I don't know why you said my name alpha, but I'm not paying for that
Yeah, I'm being dead serious. Like I'm gonna use the product for good
If I can if I can be empowered to slash people with my score
I'm not even doing it. Like I'm just a dunk on people. I'm gonna do it for good. Okay
I got lots of people to slash
I mean, honestly, like i know this is like a
yo alphico bobby has his hand up
bro certainly at least you got it's okay at least you got a list to start with golden i i got all
my i got all my my homework already done for me my friend you're not on there don't worry um but uh yeah dude like yeah we got a lot of good
to do in this space all right like let's let's enable yeah i'm ready man my call out was basically
like there are not enough people that are willing to try to change the space and so i appreciate
that about you golden because there are a lot of people that are like, oh, there's this scammer and this guy.
Your fucking app sucks because all these people are at the top of it.
And I'm like, I gave you the tools to do something about it.
I get it.
I get that not everyone wants to stick their neck out there.
But like the standard you walk past is the standard that you are.
Like you are that standard when you walk past it.
So I appreciate that.
Exactly.
Like you go to your restaurant. You have a bad meal one time, I let it slide. You go back to that
restaurant, you have a bad meal a second time, you're going to get a negative Yelp review because
everybody has an off day, right? But if you do it two times in a row, you're getting a negative
Yelp review. All right. Except in crypto, you got, you got one bad restaurant you know meal you're getting a
you're getting a negative review you don't you don't get two uh unlike alpha code imagine if you
gave a good review of a meal and then somebody got food poisoning and now you're getting a
negatively impacted because you said you had a meal dude i don't care man i put my i put my
credit on it i will say that the way that that works is if you vote j cole wrote a
song about that golden i don't i don't listen to jaco jaco because i'm not mid like jaco
fool me one time shame on me i think that's first like two times shame on you
fool me three times let the choppers rain on you you listen to j cole in 2026
You listen to J. Cole in
2026?
You go on a publicly recorded station?
It was more like 2019,
but I remember it.
I am listening to him in 2026
only because they added Friday Night Lights,
Apple Music for the first time.
That's okay.
Hey, Bobby, we can start
slashing people because we're both in the
1400s.
This is like giving you guys
gasoline and some fire and being like okay do it like you i mean the one thing is uh i don't know
what's good bobby you have your hand up what's good yeah a couple things i want to address just
from reading the temperature of the room here um i think going forward it actually might be ethos
i was shitting on it last night but but after seeing my score and my overwhelming positive reviews,
I think going forward it should be used as a metric to determine who's allowed to speak on spaces or not,
like how credible someone really is.
Maybe the cutoff could be something like if your score is over 1,400, you're allowed to give your opinion.
Or at the very least, there has to be some sort of caveat where you guys as the hosts of the space have to let
the user like the listeners know that hey while this guy is saying this and it may sound good
his ethos scores is blah blah blah but like have a baseline somewhere so people know people like
it's like a people like no it's for like people like golden and i like the most trustworthy
people in the space with high scores it is it is easy to to do it bobby
where do you get your score if you uh you go on ethos the ethos is 12 20 toshi hey listen alpha's
mad because his positive reviews are i'm not mad first it is easy to do for fucking spaces for
anybody once like if you're on pc or your computer uh trying to
see who's speaking like i have the extension so i see everybody's fucking ethos score uh when i'm
using fucking ethos on spaces like i i can genuinely see everybody's fucking shit right now
yeah were you described as blunt and unfiltered and funny as fuck like i was or for bobby bobby's
described as a lion. No. Alpha Co
is, they're all the same thing.
Good Spaces host.
Good Spaces host.
I mean, I can't.
You fucking monkey.
Anyways, while my
But Alpha's score
is higher than yours currently.
Yeah, because he bought it
as positive reviews like look at my
reviews i got two of them that says that fucking the yeezy fucking thing is tied to yeezy we've
just proved that you can use the coin on the website now thus disproving two negative reviews
and then you got somebody else reviewing me calling something anti-traumatic that's not
anti-traumatic we can skip that how do I get bad reviews taken down?
You can't.
How does that make any sense?
This is a real question. Forget about everything else.
If somebody says this was a scam coin
not tied to Yeezy and Alpha just
confirmed that this was a real Yeezy coin
because he bought a jacket with the coin
and my thing wasn't a shill,
I have two negative reviews from the same person.
Can't we just downvote it?
I don't even have the account. It's not
a ledger of fact. There's no checks and
balances. It's more so a register
of how people view you, which I think
is ultimately more important than
facts and balances anyway.
It's a public perception.
One's about the easy and one's saying I'm anti-Semitic.
I just don't like Israel. That's not anti-Semitic.
I don't like fucking Trump either.
Just to be clear, Chicago, the two that you have with the ethos agent it was saving tweets from that you had to
your account so if you click into him it's like a tweet that you said that
says you bought 200 more soul of easy at 999 million that just makes me dumb
yeah it's just a neutral review. It doesn't affect your score.
Okay, what about the one above it?
What about the one above it?
Where's my credibility one when fucking APAC is allowed to fucking discredit me?
Oh, you're talking about the Bored Apes one?
I mean, yeah, the interesting thing is it's peer-to-peer, right?
Go follow up with Bored Elon.
I would just like to let you know that fucking Mumbai is going to fucking leave 652,000 fucking reviews tonight on fucking Bored Elon. I would just like to let you know that fucking Mumbai is gonna fucking leave 652 thousand
fucking reviews tonight on fucking
Bored Elon. Wait, Serpon, you still
have to be invited or anyone can
log on.
If your score is over 1400
and you're not on Ethos, you can
sign up yourself.
Such as Golden and I. Like, our scores
are over 1400, so we didn't even have to
be invited.
Can I draw your attention to the jumbotron to review for alpha co dope spaces host even though he told me to buy freaky kiki mean coin joking but for real for real he's a gem of the
space for con for context of what freaky kiki is it's's the Tyrese coin shilled by the guy.
Fucking monkey, Golden.
You know, there's a fucking clip here.
I'll pin it up where we literally told Tyrese.
I forgot his last name.
The dude from Fast and the Furious to get the fuck off the stage because he was trying to show that dog shit ass token.
And it says JK at the end of it.
OK, let's let's let's get back on fucking track also if we're
looking at fucking scores golden and fucking bobby you guys are like oh yeah we got some of the
highest scores i'm looking at the scores right now and. And then Gigi at 1535.
And then AlphaCo, 1491.
Andraz at 1487.
And then we got Profits at 1482.
Bobby and Golden, you guys are like 9th and 10th place in this fucking space.
So maybe, you know, act your fucking score for two seconds.
Yeah, well, I don't have a freaky kiki mention.
How about 23 points off on reviews
if those don't matter?
Let's get back to this.
I was kind of coming around to fucking
this whole thing for you, Serpon.
Like, I was kind of like just coming around,
but like, really?
Like a minus 23
points because a fucking board ate fucking made a comment that he was paid seven thousand dollars
by the pack for i would encourage everyone here that is feeling like they agree with you
to go up down vote it's a defended account but i would like it because i'm gonna get it back no
no anyone else can yeah yeah all you guys go to It Big Chicago. Let everybody know that I am not anti-Semitic
because I don't like Israel.
If you download the review for what it's worth,
the impact goes to zero. I'm gonna
actually upvote it because I
disagree with that.
I disagree with that sentiment. I think not liking
Israel is actually anti-Semitic, so
I'm gonna go upvote it.
Yeah, that's fair enough. This is why your fucking platform's
fucking questionable.
We got some other people to leave him positive reviews.
Do you guys like Chicago or not?
That's a big question.
No one's written up a review yet.
I don't really have that account, so his fucking references don't even show anything.
So it's kind of like, hey, check it out.
This is what he said.
But it doesn't even link to anything.
It links to a TMZ post with nothing in context so like how
is that even like a reference like yeah that's i have been trying to get people to stop linking
x posts and just putting it all on chain because like that is like i think board elon should
fucking lose like a thousand points right now for that he's not fucking dumbledore
who's dumbledore a thousand points from Lord Elon.
Bullish on being a nobody and having no reviews on there,
so they're not negative.
J-Bo, I will be true.
You are a very reputable person I've known for multiple years in this space.
Absolutely, I guess.
Alpha, actually, speaking of these scores,
I didn't really come up here to talk about ethos,
although I guess I suppose it would actually tie in pretty well with what I meant to come up here to talk about ethos although i guess i suppose it would actually turn like tie in pretty well with what i meant to come up here for um and in regards to my ranking you said
i'm eighth or ninth that could change have we talked about trove yet yeah and guess what i
mentioned it at the beginning of the fucking space before you came in that is not my fucking
pfp and you fucking know that bro i'm changing my pfp uh you you remember what rj
said last night he said you're either a scammer one all it took was a hard rug to get this guy
to put the alien friend back on holy shit but no that uh for anybody who does want context there's
like a fucking uh trove bro we talked about the beginning of space and it's somebody with my pfp is uh
fucking throwing up fire fucking emojis a hundred i mean it is not me but isn't it the first pin
tweet or did you take it down uh i think i took it down i just pinned it up it'll be up there in a
second yo that shit had me crying when i saw that i was like no way they got my boy they messaged us
back in October.
Didn't respond back.
There was no reason for us to tap in and see it on fucking...
So you know the royal family that's referenced in there too?
What the hell is the royal family that's been...
Bro, you said they wouldn't pay you enough.
You didn't say you didn't believe in it.
Bro, I mean, $50,000 was not for for two days to put that badge on
i'm kidding but now they know what tosh is paying you oh bro that is cap first and foremost minimum
fucking wage uh bro minimum wages just shows how out of touch you are with reality. Okay, okay, bro. That's like 17 bucks an hour out there, right?
Yeah, shout out to fucking touch it.
Bro, here, I'll write you a positive review.
Get you a little bit up there,
big dog. Don't you worry.
Yeah, Bobby, Bobby, do you want to do
a review for a review?
Yeah, I'll do R4R.
R4R real quick for the boys?
Isn't that what... Just waiting to see a circle trick't isn't that what we're like you were talking about stepping
away from like the whole 3-3 shit uh last time we spoke no i mean i i i've written a bunch of
posts about like 3-3 is cooperation it means two people you know however you want to define it uh
are cooperating with each other.
They're basically saying, I trust you and you trust me.
That's good.
I keep trying to drive that home with people.
And I know at first you're like, oh, but it's just people that are doing it to farm ethos
or to build their credibility.
Yes, but that's what we need.
We need to understand who trusts each other.
That is literally the point.
And so to be honest, the only time when it's bad is when it's people that
literally don't know each other.
And so the only way we can counter that is by adding risk to it.
So you review someone, you don't know who the hell they are.
You say something really positive and they get slashed.
Well, you should lose credibility for that.
But if two guys on this space are like, yeah, we know each other.
We're willing to like cooperate with each other.
That's good.
That is a good thing.
That is a net positive for both people. And so i've never shunned people away from three three
or cooperating in fact i believe that cooperation is what's required for us to understand who trust
each other so yeah so alfaco let us do our shit yeah don't interrupt them yeah i'll leave you a
positive review alfaco yeah what the hell is that going to do?
It's not letting me do it, though.
It doesn't give me...
It says that my wallet has not been invited.
Damn, that sucks.
That's a crazy self-report.
Yeah, it says your wallet is not important enough to our website.
Literally, this is starting to come out.
Do you not have an account?
How do I get an account
oh we got
someone's got to invite him but see someone has to take the risk
on inviting you because
if you do something bad you could get slashed
and then they lose credibility score
oh Bobby
Bobby you wouldn't want to invite me and lose
credibility score now would you
Bobby's AFK right now um yeah I can't get to Africa. Would you take the risk of me?
Alpha Co is afk right now. He is away from Gigi. Can you please help me?
I am out of invites
fights okay i'll just kill myself then bro bro you can't be saying shit like that
Okay, I'll just kill myself then
wow so alpha was here the whole time that's not gonna reflect well on your ethos score
whenever he does it uh yeah but do you want to ask your question again bobby seems to be back
it seems to she's afk right now um so let's throw this uh spotlight back on alpha or maybe he did
it everyone leave alpha negative review he made we got to go to the hands bad brother has had his
fucking hand up i'm sorry for calling you a monkey that is very unkind uh uh bad brothers
has had his hand up for a minute what's good bad brothers how are you doing today what's what's good
do you any ideas thoughts what's what's up i know yeah i was just thinking about how i'm gonna you know
what do you call write a bad review for anyone calling anyone a monkey so uh but no i did have
one question um so like i used to have like an ethos uh thing like when i went on there and i
could look at my account i didn't have any reviews or anything but um I recently you know did the x handle thing and I got the handle bad brothers instead of bad
brothers underscore underscore like does that ever refresh because I think it's associated to
like the old account it says it's some guy it's someone Henderson so like uh you know that's not
bad brothers you know that's not the creator gator, yeah, I can, I will refresh it for you.
Basically, it can get cached from the old one.
It's happened a lot with people.
Yeah, Mr. Anderson Henrique, is that what you're talking about?
From the Matrix, Mr. Anderson?
I am not Henderson Henrique.
Yeah, I'm refreshing your profile, so it'll get moved over once I refresh it.
But it should do it more automatically.
But did you change your name recently?
It might be why.
It was within the last, I want to say, like three weeks or something like that.
So it's pretty recent.
It's refreshed now.
It's actually refreshed now.
So you should see your profile picture there and everything.
I like that.
On-demand support.
Hell yeah, from the ceo yeah i was thinking eventually about adding
isos out of my my site i have for creators so i would show their isos score but i haven't done
that yet but i know you guys have an sdk or whatever to do that but yeah we do very easy
to use we'd be happy to help you do that on-demand support there too. Has there been a larger demand of just like platforms or these
different ICOs potentially using these Ethos scores for larger allocations or larger,
giving people more opportunity for having a higher Ethos score?
Yeah, I mean, you saw it with MegaEath, right? MegaEath use the scores to an extent. A lot of the teams we found kind of pull the scores in
and use their own application of it.
So they might value Ethos score half of what they're looking at.
And they might look at, well, did you participate on testnet at all?
They might look at some other stuff.
How much did you spend?
How much did you spend?
Or have you ever dumped tokens before?
Or have you ever dumped tokens before?
They kind of all end up pulling Ethos score in as one of the things that they look at.
I kind of think of it in a few ways.
People look at it as a way to help launch things so they can target credible users.
They can say, I want real users using my product.
How do I go to those users, give them some incentive, and then bring them into my product?
They can be for launching things, again, like MegaEth or NFT launches.
Like, I want to target this user and give them allocation to whatever I'm building.
But we've also found that, like, people integrating into sites, something as simple as a Sybil filter.
There's a guy that I've been working with, he's building a new site, he's launching it with a beta.
They only want to have 100 users in Privy because they don't want to pay the full Privy thing.
They want to make sure to get Sybil attack, that you don't get 5 million signups.
And they're like, yeah, we'll just use the Ethoscore and filter out anyone under anyone under 1400 from getting access and you might be
filtering out real people but you know the the give and take they don't really matter if their
score is under 1400 they don't really matter it's my head out of my mouth honestly like yeah
thank you for saying that bro bobby is a horrible fucking influence let me just put that fucking up. It's almost like it works for us.
Wait, why did I get dragged into this?
No, because you said under 1,400.
I don't even have one single review.
How can I have a score?
I can't even find you in the search for some reason.
It's kind of weird.
You're at 1220, though.
It says on my... Yeah, I've just searched myself up.
1220, but I have zero reviews.
So who picks the scores?
You haven't been reviewed yet.
You need some social proof.
You need some of the people in here that love you and enjoy that.
No, no, no.
I understand.
I understand that you need reviews to go up.
But how do you get a starting score?
Oh, 1200 is the neutral one.
And then you're getting 20. If one and then you get you're getting 20
if you click like score breakdown you're getting about 20 right now from like you know having some
presence on x already it's a part of your influence ah so i need to go tell people to like yo up for
me you gotta you started engaging in the like oh like i should just tweet like yo one thousand
dollar giveaway to one random person that uploadsvotes me. Yeah, yeah.
You should do that for sure.
Yo, we've got $10,000 here.
We'll just see, you know, whoever has to pay this.
Okay, I'm giving $500 away to one person in the space that upvotes me in screenshots and put it in the comments.
$500.
Well, they would have to write a review, right?
I'm doing it at the end of the space.
$500.
Let it get slashed first.
Before you get slashed what's that slash somebody that hasn't um taken their account yeah yeah i mean that's how like uh i mean uh let me think trove got slashed i slashed trove
um a little too too too little too late but yeah they don't have any how do you slash trove how
much what's your score uh 2600 i am definitely overpowered diabolical this is obviously a fix
yeah yeah just so happens the the ceo is the highest score on the website 600 that's ridiculous
i mean i got a lot of reviews and vouchers i'm'm like the default. I'm like, I don't know.
I might be aging myself, but you remember MySpace?
Like Tom from MySpace?
Everyone had him as a friend who shoot it.
Stop it.
You obviously know what's happened here.
I'm not Tom, but like...
Now I'm questioning you.
I'm going to get slashed.
Aren't I?
I'm going to get slashed.
Social credit score and the Supreme Leader's at the top of the pile.
There we go.
Kim Jong-un over there.
Okay, okay, I can't do everything.
11 holes in one and his first ever golf round, fellas.
Hey, speaking of Supreme Leader, you guys should implement a new product.
Let's call it Alpha Scores.
And, like, let me randomly generate a number for everybody.
So if I like them, give them a giant thumbs up.
If I don't, a giant thumbs up if i don't
a giant thumbs down i mean the last part is in the product already right you like someone to give
them a thumbs up i do think that there is some merits of the idea that like you could have
personal scores for people like oh this person might mean a lot to you and uh you might view
their score differently because you know they're within your network of people
and you're connected with them and therefore like they're more reputable. We've thought about some
stuff like that of just like kind of like measuring global reputation better than global
because global ends up being, you know, somewhat of a popularity contest always.
Makes sense. It seems like there's some people unhappy in the comments about you guys lowering the number from 1600 to 1400.
Really? They don't like that with change you get for slashing? They're worried.
It's hard.
What actually is slashing? Like, well, how does that work?
Yeah, slashing is, I hope this is a joke. We've had it at 1400 before for what it's worth.
No, slashing is the
idea that like one person says, this person has stepped out of line. So Trove was a good example.
KOL that undisclosed gets a paid shill out there. Someone says, hey, I think this person should get
slashed. You actually risk your own credibility score in doing so and then you let people vote so it's 48 hours everyone goes and votes do they agree or do they disagree with it um if you don't
get above 60 percent then it either it can get rejected and you could lose your credibility
score as the slasher but if it goes over 60 percent then um they get slashed and they lose
some of their credibility and it's a pretty common way to call someone out for stepping out of line.
It's basically like an aura gamble.
It's like what Bobby and
Golden were born to do.
This is like right.
This is actually good, Loki.
Yeah, Whale has a
slash on right now for the next
22 hours.
That's one of the more interesting ones for sure yeah speaking of
or a gamble hey bobby once once they lower the number you want to do an or a gamble between the
two of us where we we each put some fucking uh credibility on the line i'm about to they're
about to start calling me the hash slinginglinging slasher in the streets.
We've never had two people slash each other before,
so you guys could definitely start a trend with that.
If you slash somebody and it's successful, did your aura go up?
You gotta add the prediction market element.
Now we can bet. That's true.
It's like a chicken fight.
You can gamble on it.
That's good.
You can't do that yet.
We'll just do the odds first.
I think you might have answered this already. I might have missed it.
So while there's a slashing going on,
if you vote against the person
and the person actually wins,
does it ding your credit score as well?
Or your social score?
Only if you were supporting them, which I know is kind of difficult
to like grot. A good example would be
like, if you vouch supporting them, which I know is kind of difficult to like grok. A good example would be like, if you vouch for whale and whale gets slashed, you would lose credibility score for
supporting him unless you vote slash. So if you vote slash and he gets slashed, then you don't
lose anything. You're basically confirming that he stepped out of line,
and you are allowing yourself to be protected by,
hey, I fucked up in supporting him, but I'm voting to slash him.
Can you remove a vouch?
If I vouch for Whale, and then he's getting slashed,
can I just remove my vouch?
It will still count.
If you remove the vouch during the slash, it will still count. You'll still get the misplaced endorsement.
What if I had a previous vouch for, let's say, Whale or like a previous positive review for him from like four months ago and then it gets slashed?
Does that affect my credibility by vouching or have I possibly removed someone?
It does.
And it's a tricky part, to be honest.
This is kind of what someone had brought up earlier of like if you eat a meal at McDonald's and then like a month, a year later, someone, you know, dies there.
And like they, they, they slash McDonald's.
Like, should you have to pay the effects of that?
And it's a tricky one. I haven't,
I can't say that it's perfected yet to be honest.
But yeah, like I,
there are a lot of people that get really mad when they like left the
positive reviews for someone or like poly market as an example,
like positively reviewed poly market. And then they get slashed because UMA fucks up like
should you still have to pay the misplaced misplaced endorsement penalty for writing a
review a year ago about something like polymarket it's debatable the problem is it's really helpful
when it when it is working correctly because it prevents civil attacks.
It prevents people from abusing the product.
It can absolutely nuke an entire group of people that are abusing the product.
So it's like a price that we have to pay.
I think we'll end up adding decay to those.
Or maybe if it was a long enough time ago, it doesn't count as much.
We have to figure out the right answer.
I don't know what it is yet.
Hey, this is Serpent.
Just a quick question um when is the when is it going to effect where i can start slashing people with my score in the 1400s could we do like a live social experiment during this
space where it goes into effect i did get approval for my pr but we'll have to deploy code and i'm
not the cto so i don't know what the status of deploying is,
but I could go out later today.
We just released an hour ago, so maybe not.
Okay.
Could you make a post about it just to clarify whenever it's ready?
That we can do it?
Yeah.
Okay.
And is there a button I need to push whenever that time is appropriate?
Yeah. Where is it on the screen Yeah, you go to their profile.
Where is it on the screen?
You just go to their profile and just similar to review and voucher as a slash button.
Oh, this is great. Okay, thank you so much.
You can hear his grin from ear to ear. I'm happy for you, Colton.
We have a lot of arsonists on the stage right now that are just waiting for this to kind of take into effect.
We have a lot of arsonists on the stage right now that are just waiting for this to kind of take into effect.
They can only slash one person every 48 hours, right?
Just to clarify.
There can be up to five slashes at any point in time.
But one person can only be slashed every 10 days.
The Twitter streets are not safe.
How does it grow?
The blood is running in the streets.
You can only slash someone once every seven days yourself.
So there are definitely timers.
You can slash them multiple once a week, though.
You can slash one person once a week.
Now, again, you're risking something.
To be clear, you're risking your own score by doing so.
Has Hinnok been slashed yet?
Oh, boy.
I don't know, actually.
That's your number one, Golden?
That's the top of your list?
No, he's not number one.
He's pretty irrelevant now.
Serpent, you saw Ben Pasternak with his whole,
I don't even know what his product's called.
Is that like a knockoff of Ethos?
Inspired by, I don't know.
I mean, yeah, it's very much the same thing
as ethos markets which we launched about a year ago i'm never one to be cagey about like oh god
damn it someone copied all my code now they're gonna like i mean the guy already shot himself
on the foot it doesn't really matter um i view it as go ahead sorry i was gonna say are we seeing
a ben pastor next slash in the future I think I slashed him, probably.
Let me see if Ben Pasternak has been slashed or not yet.
He is definitely untrusted, and he has been slashed once.
So yeah, maybe he doesn't need another one.
You can't slash one that's under 800 score, and he's at 700.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Okay, that's a good metric.
So you can't slash anyone that's under 800.
Wait, so 800 is basically zero?
Is that what I'm hearing?
1200 is like neutral.
Yeah, but you can still get really low.
Yeah, relax on the 1200s, GG.
You're above your 1220, my friend.
Why is Alon...
1212 on my personal, I don't give a fuck about this one.
Alon has established 1700 score.
What the... Like, this is a founder of a fucking
meme coin launchpad.
Yeah, it could be way higher.
He should be closer to Serpens.
We don't have great overlap
with Solana. It just shows there's no, like...
It's not neutral enough here.
I think we should be able to slash people.
Look, Serpens serpent there's definitely some fucking
dodgy shit going on here i mean 12 2600 is ridiculous like like shill and villain he has
a less than 800 score like we should be able to slash him down to like 50 points or whatever just
to bury him for once and good what's the highest score you can get right now 2800 okay yeah sure you'll be at 2950 by this time
next week mate no i can't get i don't think i can get above 2600 like is it possible to slash you
uh yeah it's definitely possible you could there's a bit of a pause there there's a bit of a pause there. There's a bit of a pause there. Three people have tried to slash me so far.
That's like asking Elon Musk if he tweets something really inflammatory that breaks the rules.
Is he going to let himself get banned?
I just reported Elon for copyright.
I mean, it's an aura gamble.
If you have more aura, you think, than Serpent?
I mean, what's an aura gamble if you have more aura, you think, than Serpent. I mean, what's stopping you in this world?
I mean, if I really stepped out of line, I'm sure I would get slashed appropriately. I'm sure of it.
Like, this is like the guy holding the sword and people are like, yes, finally, we get to turn it around on him.
Like, I'm sure people would be, like, dying to have that opportunity. but the thing that has happened hasn't worked
i think you're a very fair founder uh i'm not gonna lie so i i i think yeah not you don't see
fucking biases from uh there's very few founders that do show biases in the space and you are one
of the people who don't just go out of your way yeah you're just trying to get your score up I'm already on
Yeah Serpin, I think you're great too, mate
Yeah Serpin, you're amazing
Top bloke
This is the whole design
Should there be more or less?
I'm building my own reputation platform
What the fuck?
Bobby, you are pre-amazing.
I'm building a reputation platform
for platforms.
Hey, what if you can
1000x leverage long somebody's
reputation? Holy fuck.
You've been looking
at a roadmap, haven't you?
I would just fucking max short myself
and tweet the hard R, bro. What are you talking about?
Okay, okay, okay.
It wouldn't work because I'd upvote you.
Bro, it is a family-friendly fucking space.
Please, let's get back on fucking track.
He didn't say it. He didn't say it.
He said he would. He would.
And the thing is, I 100% agree.
You asked if we could leverage
trade it i told you bro are you kidding me let me know the next is dropping a token i'm shorting
that thing to zero in his aura by the way alpha you're the one calling everyone monkeys the day
after martin luther king day too dude you should be ashamed of yourself bro it doesn't matter you
are getting into it isn't it funny they charged to do with monkeys that it. Isn't it funny they charged... What does that have to do with monkeys? That's crazy.
Isn't it funny they charged Don Limon with the KKK act yesterday?
On MLK Day of all days.
Okay, let's get back to the crypto conversation.
How we can save crypto with social...
Exhilarating title, by the way. That's why I came up.
Hey, what's your ethos score?
You gotta wait.
Who fucking gives a fuck?
I couldn't tell you.
Gun to my head.
Couldn't tell you.
I like Serpent, though, for what it's worth.
100% I do, too.
And I've seen clips of his vibe cutting shit, bro.
He's been fucking cooking, which is, I don't know, I think dope as fuck to see founders
really doing their shit out in front of everybody while they're doing the work.
Max Wynn.
Did you see what Alan announced today?
Yeah, Max Wynn's got fucking 1,200.
He's got two negative reviews and one positive.
Wait, I see 1310.
I see 1310.
Oh, okay.
Was that good?
Yeah, you got three reviews.
It's better than...
33% positive reviews.
Yeah, no, it's neutral.
It's good.
Can you request not to be on the website?
Deployed a scam.
I got no.
Are you getting scared?
Wait, what did it say?
It's a bit fucking unfair, isn't it?
Like gambling side, bro.
They're judging me by the...
You know, separate the art from the artist.
That's all I'm going to ask the voters.
Did someone look up RollBit's social credit score real quick i'm just curious
slash
uh the rollbit has uh 1277 score you know how people
this is mixed you know people used to like on Xbox game chat parties,
they used to say, hey, what's the shape of the island underneath Italy?
And they said boot.
You'd say, hey, who's the guitarist for Guns N' Roses?
Who's the guitarist for Guns N' Roses?
Slash, I think.
What a great dad joke. I see what you great dad joke that was excellent yeah i mean he goes really good that was fantastic you know what i'm gonna upvote you right now for that
bro hey alfa did you buy the uh mr beast coin fuck no like bro this shit is just like it's
these tiktok kids that are absolutely violating
people in the fucking trenches their butt they know i had a fucking meme coin they know
did you see that video frisk posted about it with the four kids i saw it on tiktok first
we went from the esports people to the tiktok people
you said what yeah there was some um there's like some mr beast meme coin or something and
they were like mr beast is announcing something during the super bowl and he says you're gonna
get rich um and look there's this uh meme coin launched around that date or whatever
this must be mr beast meme coin um and yeah it went up to like 70 mil but now it just
fucking crashed the thing is though brothers i think shit's gonna get worse and worse with like oh they unleashed the bundle finally yeah with like some yeah
celebrity endorsements because ai has gotten so crazy with these deep fakes i couldn't even tell
if it was ar or fucking real at all and like it's it's actually fucking nuts i think more and more
people are about to well i mean that's been going on for years i mean if you go on youtube sometimes
you'll see like it's a live stream right and it's like elon musk and he's like you know we're
releasing the x token certain things and uh you can contact me now send me one bitcoin and i'll
send you two back yeah certain things used to just seem so egregiously unlikely though and then
the president-elect launched a meme coin and then vamped it with
another one so like it's just like there's no telling what simulation we're in anymore
100 like anything fucking goes like i would not be surprised if mr beast came out and dropped the
fucking ca at all uh regardless of whatever with no real fucking consequences.
Eric Adams just did it like two fucking weeks ago like.
Dude and all those people fell for the Trump shit like three days ago when they redirected
the fees to that deployer wallet and everybody got hooked on that one too.
These people are absolute meatheads.
Can I connect my Twitter to this thing or am I going to get fucking raided?
You can't even do it, brother.
You don't have over a 1,400 score.
I'm sorry.
Did anyone send them in the fight?
Did you wait up, cuz?
Can you connect their alternate account?
Can you do a little upvote for me
from the big boss? Get me up there.
It doesn't work like that, brother.
It does not work like that.
Somebody has to stake their reputation for you, brother.
They have to give you a giant stamp of approval.
They have to pave the way for you, for you to be able to walk that path.
and whatever you do reflects on them.
And whatever you do reflects on them.
Hey, Alpha, if you were scrolling on Hinge theoretically
and you saw a decently good friend of yours,
not like you talk to him every day,
but you probably talk to him three times a week,
girlfriend, who you know they're very much still dating,
on Hinge, but active today,
is that like a scroll through, take a peek,
click the X, act like it never happened angle, or is that like a scroll through take a peek click the x act like it never happened angle or
is that like a make a phone call angle this is all match match match with her no well so that's
that's not even the mouth it's more so like is it like a screenshot send over or click the x
act like nothing happened definitely tell your boy what the fuck what he doesn't know won't hurt him
it's gonna really hurt his feelings man it's like the hangover when you know i've learned in life usually i'm the bearer of bad
news and somehow that's like that like reflects on me as a bad person so yeah no would you want
him to do it for you that's the question oh well i would never be in a situation where that would
happen to me if it were well i never it would literally never happen to me, though. If it were. Hypothetical. Stay pure. Remain a virgin.
I could never catch myself in a situation
where the female that I'm...
Yeah, no, I mean, it just would never happen to me,
so I couldn't relate.
If you take a screenshot on Hinge, does it notify the person?
No, right?
No, no shot.
No, I actually just Googled that like three days ago.
Otherwise, there's a lot of really massive
fucking things out there that have been like, wow, he thinks I'm pretty. It's like, no, I actually just Googled that like three days ago. Otherwise, there's a lot of really massive fucking things out there
that have been like, wow, he thinks I'm pretty.
It's like, no, you're just enormous.
That had to be documented.
Bro, you can, we're not going to be shaming people.
Bro, you also are the fucking...
That's a huge bitch.
High calorie.
Also, Adam, 100%, you are the fucking bearer of bad news.
Right after the fucking book of this game,
you were the person who fucking texted me and was like, oh, yeah, did you see Bo Nix?
Dude, they should make an ethos for Hinge.
Oh, my God.
Oh, wow.
Didn't they do that with me?
My score would be like 250.
Didn't they do it?
Like, I'm a five-star man.
Bobby, didn't you get sent into a facebook group oh yeah the city i live in apparently there's a big group like the red flag are we
dating the same guy group or something and uh one of my friends from college sent me and said yo
you're on this page man there's tons of comments Do you not remember the T app at all? Like, bro, that was basically...
The original was the dirty.
Like, the T app was the...
I don't know.
It was, bro, gender blocked first.
Yeah, I vibe-coded T on Dethos.
So you could go onto this app that looked exactly like T,
and then you could anonymously review people.
And it was chaos. It was, like, the dumbest thing I've ever made. But it and it was chaos it was like the dumbest
thing i've ever made but it was funny because it looked exactly like the tea app and yeah you could
anonymously review whoever and people were saying things like you know sexual comments about other
people they were trying to follow suit with the like uh whatever uh tea, which is more around dating instead of
reputation. Someone in the
space was on
the T app.
I'm going to vibe code
a T app for men. That's what
I think we need.
That already existed and then
they took it down within 24
hours because guys couldn't help
themselves but post nudes
That's wild work, bro. You can't take these guys anywhere
But I mean there was so much fucking cap on probably for the other dudes those like check out tiny much it is today
Good shit, bro. Yeah, it was cold out
Okay, okay, okay. It's a different app Adam different up
Okay, okay, uh, yeah wrong wrong app i guess
uh what's good we got i don't know but yeah social squares i think are genuinely important
especially as going into the future i think people should definitely keep in mind uh like
you have these tools that you can use at your fucking disposal uh if if you want to
document some shit if you feel like you've been wronged by somebody if you feel like you've been
righted by somebody like you can 100 take action that's okay this is how you literally get silenced
by people you know like it's actually insane so okay i've been fucked by so many motherfuckers
here and not once i was like i'm gonna go leave a
social credit review on him like i'm sorry that's like all it takes is one person that is so gay
followers to literally give you a negative vote quote tweet that shit or make a post and then
just absolutely get your existence dunked on because of like something you literally didn't
even do that's just so kind of fucked up that's just so okay like everyone's
like you're not that important no one cares because one asshole with more emotion and you
decided that he doesn't like you and wants to take you down that's why it's consensus based
it's not just one person ever right you have to have a lot of people to say it so that i mean
that's that's the system design that's how but that's what i'm saying it could be one dickhead
with a whole bunch of sheep that follow him like saying alex or whatever they're just
like literally you know what i'm saying you're not wrong but like i mean i've written about this a
lot too like mob mentality very real thing in real life i mean the big thing on ethos is like you can
see it so it's like oh there's a group of people that all vote the same way and all say the same
things like it's all on chain everyone can go pull the data so if you are a part of a mob next thing you know you look up and you're like wait
shit people are treating me differently because i'm a part of this mob um you know it's really
hard to measure that now on twitter you know what i'm saying because if brody said go get him
there'd be like 700 dojonal dogs downvoting my ass in 30
seconds the problem is the dogenal dogs already have all low scores they wouldn't
they're already pretty low so if they sign up they're not gonna have any influence
perfect there are some good ones like bro there's always good ones
no i'm trying to do tell alpha who's one of always good ones. No? Do tell, Alpha, who's
one of the good ones?
I don't
want to say, but like
there's some kind ones, I guess.
I mean, I wouldn't trust them to
hold any of my money.
You can't make a blanket statement, but
yeah, I mean, like, on average.
I'm just waiting
for the one before the slash.
We're still 0 for...
Oh, what's good?
We got Speed Racer up here, too.
What's good, Speed Racer?
How are you doing today?
Markets are red.
I'm bidding.
We'll see what happens.
It just took out the liquidity.
I had an order, and I didn't think it would hit.
It hit.
It was like, hey, 88, 250.
I went in.
Yeah, dude, they swept the Apex.
Scraped some trades today.
Isn't that crazy?
They swept the whole Apex.
You know when they did it?
So there was from 88 to 89, there was a whole bunch of liquidity.
You know when they did it?
When the futures market closed.
Oh, yeah.
They waited until the second thing with no volume. Exactly. Futures market
closed and what does it do? It sweeps it down. And so it's going to gap lower. There's going to be
two gaps in the futures. Trump speaks before market open tomorrow, and then he's going to be
on CNBC right at kind of, you know, an hour before market open, I think it is.
And then he's going to be meeting with the UN. But even Secretary Besant this morning said,
Trump has a plan. Like he's basically, he just takes a ball into the China shop,
and he just goes and starts to bounce that shit all over the place. And he's just going to let
everything break and get everybody's panties in a bunch. And then he's going to come in and he's going to make a deal. And I just think that's the
plan in this situation as well. He watches the markets. I mean, he tweets about the markets
all the time. And he's not going to just let everything go to hell just because of wanting,
you know, Greenland and all this stuff. So he's going to get a deal basically
where he's going to get more control.
What was that?
I'm reading that most of this downturn
is because of Japan.
Japan has been in a mess forever.
They didn't raise interest rates.
They're in trouble.
They can't defend their currency
because if they did,
their rates go up even higher.
They were like the only country that never raised interest rates during COVID.
And again, they couldn't because if they did, their economy collapses.
They've had to print so much money to sustain.
And then everybody took advantage of that during COVID with this yen carry trade where they basically, you know, borrowed against their stuff to go buy risk assets.
And so it was all kind of built up on this notion of them and their interest rate stuff.
So everything's coming to roost in that front.
So, yes, there is some issue there.
Tenure is going up.
The threat of other countries continuing to dump treasuries is there. So that's
a concern for the market. But again, it's just a threat because ultimately, the European Union
needs the US more than the US needs the European Union. And if this happens, and Trump wanted to,
he could put Europe in a recession just like that. So it's not to say
they can't hurt the United States, but to the degree, they have no industry. Remember, they
have no tech industry. They literally just cut out the tech industry because of their high
regulations and they continue to try to find them and everything is that regard. So from that
perspective, he has the marbles and he knows it.
And he's playing those marbles right now.
And he's just trying to get a deal.
So we'll see what happens.
Markets needed to pull back anyway.
It's actually a good time to pull back.
We're going to get tech earnings starting here, I believe, next week.
Netflix got smoke today as expected on earnings.
But it's good to go into those things, not at an all time high.
And so it's just a reset. There is a lot of angst and now we have this uncertainty on top of it.
So I'm still bullish. You know, it's just one of those situations that's all on timeframes.
I trade long timeframes. And when I'm seeing the setup that I'm seeing, I'm making some plays.
What does this mean for the main spends-out flexible?
I bought long-dated Bitcoin calls today, expiring in July.
You know, basically, I thought it was a good risk-reward to hit a new all-time high by then.
And for the cost that it costs.
That's a good call. Nice trade, bro.
Yeah.
Good shit.
So MicroStrategy is still,
I mean, did people see this stuff today?
MicroStrategy bought 20,000 Bitcoin.
I was talking about this.
Remember these preferred equities?
They had over 3,000 Bitcoin bought
by their preferred equity last week alone.
3,000 Bitcoin.
They're going to be having, and I mentioned it before,
and this is going to be a reality.
They're going to have over a million Bitcoin
at some point this year.
And MicroStrategy and MicroSaler does not care
about MicroStrategy price right now
because he's been told,
and I guarantee you this is the only reason why,
he's been told by these banks,
he needs more Bitcoin for them to continue to push this product.
Because remember, these preferred equities have to be backed by his assets.
There's no way he went to the market.
He got a billion and a half liquidity out of MicroStrategy last week to go buy more Bitcoin.
Nobody in their right mind would do that without knowing stuff that he can't share to
the market. I mean, you're basically at all time lows. He doesn't care. And he's just at a rush
right now to get as much Bitcoin as he can, because all of these companies are saying, okay,
I want some of that yield. And they're starting to include it. And he's just going to town on
buying Bitcoin. He doesn't care what the price is. He doesn't care what his MNAV is. He's just buying Bitcoin like straight up every day.
Also, I don't know if this is legit, but a few minutes ago, President Trump has announced that he plans to issue a $2,000 tariff dividend checks to middle class American without congressional approval.
checks to middle-class American without congressional approval.
He's been saying that for a while. The question is, could it be fought? The question is,
in a midterm election, who is going to fight it? Because then you're basically saying,
hey, we're going to prevent you from sending checks to everybody. Does the Democratic Party
want to die on that hill?
They're already for
invading churches.
We just gave you
$2,000 checks to everyone, right?
Yeah, they're going to be like, see, that's them
adding to the national debt, and
they added this, this, and this, and they're going to
try and say all sorts of shit and pull numbers out of their ass.
The party system is so gay, and voting
is so pointless, bro. I'm going actually on screen court decision um on that see if he's even gonna
have the money to do that because if they uh rule them illegal he's gonna have to return all that
money so but that's not all that's only uh a portion of it i think it's less than 50 percent
of the tariffs is actually the stuff that's in front of the Supreme Court.
The other half is all on security measures.
And so that's like the tariffs to China.
That's the fentanyl stuff.
That's the intellectual property stuff.
So the other stuff is just like I'm going to tariff you because I read a bad tweet from somebody.
I read a bad tweet from somebody.
The other news, actually, back going into our space is,
you know, I've been talking about some of these
and I've been tweeting about some of these things
about these strategy tokens.
And TokenWorks has kind of done that with Punkster
and Vibester and all of these.
They actually, as of this afternoon,
and this is one thing I was
hoping was going to happen, they integrated with OpenSea. So all the assets held in the token
strategy are also listed on OpenSea. And that was one of the situations before people had to go to
a separate site to be looking for something and buying. And now basically if those tokens or if
those assets are being bought on OpenSea,
they're being burned through the strategy and the strategy tokens. So they're starting with good vibes just because they've had really good luck and their floor was basically at parity
with OpenSea's floor. So now since this announcement, there's been some big sweeps of those. But if I think in the Discord, basically, if the floor of it goes up 12%,
basically gets to about a one-eth floor, which it's not far away,
the token strategy would burn 40 million tokens based on where we're at.
And I think they've already burned 17%. So, I mean, these
numbers get pretty big. And so people are talking about meme coins and you're just kind of hoping
it goes up and down. There's a mechanic to some of these and you have community incentive with
some of them like vibe strategy, which also incentivizes people to hold their assets to
earn these badges. So interesting to see if that takes off.
I mean, this weekend we had a little bit of excitement in NFTs,
and then it's kind of during the week you can just see people are working
and busy and not paying attention.
So it seems like floors bleed a little bit,
but see if we can keep the momentum going in digital art.
That's a dove.
That is a dove.
I'm glad to see some of these strategies winning,
especially with the way they did.
A lot of them did play out.
I've been trading a few.
I mean,
there's a couple of like,
you know,
Vibesters up almost 200% this year.
Street,
which is a quirky token.
That's up. I think a 100% this week. So there are plays to be
had if people are knowing where to look. And again, the nice thing about these are a lot of
these are token burns. So it's not like somebody's dumping on people. It's not like you have a VC
that's like, oh, I'm out. So there is some mechanic to it. And the bet for the token strategy is kind of on a bet that NFTs are going to appreciate
in value.
My bad.
But yeah, I don't know.
Like, I'm rooting for them.
100% I am.
But it's just like, I with full confidence.
Talk about NFTs to a guy with a fucking anime PFP right now there, Speed Racer.
Hey, man.
I spent a lot of money on fucking NFTs in the last 20 days, actually.
I've been buying.
Yeah, put the alien friend back on Alpha.
Deadass?
Absolutely, dude.
I think I've spent over 25 ETH in the last couple weeks.
Jesus Christ. I mean, I'm ETH in the last couple weeks.
I mean, I'm burning it with the best of them.
I'm just like lighting it on fire right now.
And I love every minute of it. Speed Racer and Anidia are the most bullish on NFTs in the whole space.
Speed, you just got that PFP, right?
That's off to Speed Racer for being almost as much of a PFP.
You just got that penguin, no?
Because I feel like I knew the person.
No, I actually borrowed it from someone else's PFP.
Okay, I was going to say, I feel like I know the person that owns that.
No, I bought it.
Wasn't there somebody dumping a bunch of punks or something recently?
I thought I heard that someone got drained for, like, a bunch of punks.
Is that?
I don't know.
That was something I heard. I didn't see anything official about that.
Someone's dumping a bunch of Bitcoin
right now. I saw somebody lost like
8 or 12 punks or something the past day or two.
Somebody got drained for like
8 or 12 or something like that.
I do remember hearing that actually.
And I think they sold, it was like eight of them, something like that.
Speed Racer, just because you were mentioning strategy coins and NFTs,
I'll just say this, dude.
I like these genuine undead guys and they did launch a strategy coin as well.
And it was very quiet.
So it didn't get like, I don't know.
I don't have any of the numbers in front of me, but just take a look at it if you're interested.
I'm currently doing moon boy math.
So with this $2,000 dividend, let's just say they're around 343 to 345 million middle class people in the fucking United states of america you multiply that by 2000
and like i hold this meme coin that i hold a large percentage of uh but it's only sub 5k i'm trying
to add up what the market cap of that token will be once everybody puts all their money into that damn token. Yeah, can you do that for Botcoin for me?
Uh, yeah, I'm vibe-coding a calculator right now, actually.
You're vibe-coding a calculator, brother.
Just ask two questions to chat GPT.
You don't even have to do all that.
Yeah, but more people might want to use it, to be honest.
But what if somebody wants to use it?
Oh my god, you know what's fucked up?
Is that actually Will Bang, bro?
I calculated how much money your meme coin will go up
if Trump does this many dividends
and they all buy your thing.
Oh my god, you suck, bro.
But you better not sell,
otherwise you go out of the middle class
and then you don't get your $2,000 check.
You fucking suck, dude.
So keep that in mind.
Holy shit.
Yeah, also don't forget to fucking ask
what percentage of them pay taxes. Oh, no, nobody's, bro. I want to keep the number. Yeah, yeah don't forget to ask what percentage of them pay taxes.
Oh, no, nobody's.
Bro, I want to keep the number big.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuck that.
Yeah, I want to keep the number big.
It's full of hope.
I mean, bro, there's...
What's the cutoff for
middle class?
The yearly amount?
Is it like 100k?
I think it's a little bit more than that.
I mean depending on...
Are you saying on the high end or low end?
So the poverty levels
are different than what the government
associates with middle class and what the economy
associates. There's two different numbers.
Is DG asking
the household income?
Yeah, income.
It says to be middle class, you generally need to earn between two-thirds and double
the medium household income, which nationally translates roughly to $52,000 to $155,000
for a household.
It varies significantly by location, household size, expensive areas like
San Jose requiring much higher incomes, and cheaper areas like Detroit needing far less.
So they're middle class like $25K to $76K to meet middle class standards.
Down that range, it's crazy. Yeah, the Social security cutoff of tax is like 160 something
so i think that's probably the number but who knows they're going to try to spread that to as
many people as they can likely because they need a few more votes
yeah if you get everyone excited about a two thousand dollar dividend or a check coming your way, then people are going to be more pro-tariffs.
That's probably the thinking as well.
All I know is if I don't get this $2,000, I'm fucking slashing Trump on ethos.
He left. We don't have to.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Of course.
kidding i'm kidding of course dude no no no it's it's even funnier when he's not here i think
No, no, no. It's even funnier when he's not here, I think.
uh yeah i'm just uh
i'm buying a calculator for the terror go fuck yourself bro holy fuck yourself first yeah get
on a plane go a little bit further west and then paint your hair a different color and you're like
right on par uh what like la fuck no you think i want to step on like
fentanyl not even a little actually a little bit further than that it's called san francisco
oh you thrive out there bro you can then you can make one of those tweets this is what being a
somalian in san francisco does to you on hens and he'll be like negative 55 blockchain users
the serfintex guy or whatever the fuck his name is.
Yo, bro, if he really, like, you know, if he really tries hard enough, I'm pretty sure he'd look like more of a woman than fucking Evelyn.
Bro, bro, he's a guy.
He's building some shit in his face.
Oh, I don't give a fuck.
He's a fucking retard, bro.
Yo, bro, bastard.
You think anyone gives a fuck about this on-chain fucking credibility shit?
No one gives a fuck, bro.
You know what the credibility is?
The Porsche keys underneath my fucking
pillow in my bedroom, bro.
That's the fucking credibility.
I have your keys under your pillow.
Yo, because I just got the car and I just passed out
30 minutes ago.
Yo, bro.
If you were really that rich, you'd leave the fucking keys in the Porsche, buddy.
Okay, first, what I would say.
Imagine, I left the Porsche at the dealership, and I just took an Uber home because it's too high to drive.
Kuro does bring us a solid Porsche.
Dumb bitch.
Like, ethos, score.
Okay, okay.
Ethos scores do matter to a certain extent.
At least to me, like like when i'm looking at
i haven't used it in a minute but it doesn't like you you can look up uh somebody's past whatever
and all the information is right in front of you how people public sentiment like you can you can
see court of public opinion like that's that's what matters in the space but it also doesn't
affect jack shit either like for example do you guys remember during the whole meme coin meta there were a few people who kept on getting paid and paid and paid to promote these
basically pump and dump launches who had these low ass fucking ethos scores they weren't making
money the most ethical way but they kept getting the fucking deals regardless of what their score
was because they brought attention and attention brought in more money into the fucking space like credibility does matter
So why was he riding fucking
Pashnik's pull then
Who was?
He knows Pashnik has a girlfriend right the surfing tax guy. No, he said he's like
I literally haven't blocked because of this shit. No, he slashed him. That's like the opposite.
Nah, that's not what he did initially.
Give him some fuck.
I don't even care, bro.
I just want to make struggle, bro.
It's just so funny.
It's like, I only ever hear about this show, this face is.
I saw it on my feed like this morning.
It was like, big news. uh whale.swoosh just got
slashed it's like holy fuck like imagine like i'm mad trove went bad and then it's like what can i
do about it oh i'm gonna go slash him like that like that is so gay bro like that is like if you
slash someone on ethos i think that's like top five gayest things
i mean to be fair whale is like the first motherfucker to write a fucking 40 page
fucking thread about anything that doesn't i think it's all gay yeah i think it's all gay
yeah i i think it's all gay though like that's my point like it's like we're like grown-ass
a way to to make your your problems known on the platform, man.
Don't worry.
Okay, let's...
When are you going to be able to smirk this niggas up?
Okay, let's keep it cordial.
Like, imagine if everyone just got angry and they just went outside and, like, breathed some fresh air and maybe, like, threw a ball around.
Maybe went on a run.
But that's the thing, Adam.
You know what I mean?
Shaved their fucking neckbeard.
Meet a girl
have free will to do all of that if you want to do it you could 100 do it you also have the free
will to no but i think this space is so gay because people feel like their opinion is so
important and that they are so important it genuinely is fucking no but that's that's like
the turning point of the space like everyone needs to used to just be Anon, and like, you'd be like, ah, you know, chalk it to the game.
Like, Godspeed.
Yeah, you got me.
And then it was like, I'm important, and look at my following, and this is my reputation.
It's like, oh my god, just don't be a fucking bitch.
And like, if you know someone's a bitch, we all know they're a bitch.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know.
We do, but like, new entrants are coming into the fucking space every single day and you think they're going on ethos i mean we
we have some place we can direct them now at least like bro i was talking about this when i
was first coming back into the space my break after my break i was like bro i missed a lot
i launched a meme coin in 2023 like two months after pump fun came out and apparently my two reviews my two reviews on
there are because of a meme coin that i launched two months after pump fun came out and so if you
look at my ethos right now you think i'm a scamming like deployer but that's bullshit and that's there
forever so like i don't know i guess it's like it's like a heat check if somebody were to come
up here because like obviously if somebody were to come up here saying some absolutely dumb shit,
we're just going to cook you in general.
But we usually hear them out, don't we?
Yeah, for sure.
And you hear them out,
and then you hear the dumb shit that they have to say,
and then everybody cooks them on the dumb shit that they say.
And then collectively, you're like,
okay, deductive reasoning.
Guy's an absolute meathead.
Okay, but I like, okay. Deductive reasoning. Guy's an absolute meathead. Okay, but, I mean, if...
Like, it's like, if someone's picking on you in school and you're my kid, I'm going to be like, beat the shit out of them.
I'm not going to be like, go run away and tell the principal.
Yeah, yeah, like, go cry and tell the principal.
No, punch him in the fucking nose, bro.
Can we hear from Serpent 2?
And also, why did everybody just get so passionate about eth him in the fucking nose can we hear from Serpent too and also
why did everybody just get so passionate about
ethos in the last fucking two minutes
right after
it was after I left
because there's at least a founder that we could
no no Serpent for what it's worth Alpha said some stupid
shit I think I don't really remember
but I'm gonna say that's what
happened is that a surprise
that Alpha is saying stupid shit?
No, I came up here and I was talking shit about it.
All right, all right.
We're not doing that, guys.
Yo, I started this shit.
I love this shit.
Like, yo, I purposely, like, yo, the moment I woke up, I seen him on stage.
So I blocked him just so when I came up, it made it more dramatic.
I don't give a shit, man.
Like, is he going to even flash me?
Like, not real, bro.
I'm nobody.
Like, not real. You're not a real person the fact that i even
have anybody following me is a fucking miracle in itself with the shit that comes out of my
mouth man no but you say a lot of these things but i a hundred percent think you are in my opinion
one of the most trustworthy people i wouldn't trust me buddy i wouldn't trust me alpha like i'm i don't even
that's a classic when you block somebody so when you go up in a space it says somebody you have
like bro some people are gonna trust some other people people are not gonna trust some people and
you have the right to fucking voice i i first heard of ethos like a month ago bro i don't even know what it does all i know is slashing is retarded
i actually like slashing i'm gonna just put that out there
slash everyone let's do it can you're punjabi bro you like you have the sword and stuff okay
can we let serpent speak for a second my bad we wait, can I slash Yogi because of his ethnicity?
You can.
Okay, okay.
Oh, well, then never mind.
This platform's awesome.
I got Slash for San Yogi.
Misregard anything I just said.
Please, let's go to fucking Serpent.
I've said this, like, fucking ten times.
And you guys just, bro, you guys won't even let the man fucking speak.
Like, you guys are all just, like, fucking bugpiling
about some shit.
What's good, though, Serpent?
My bad about all of you.
It's okay.
I mean, I like the heat. It's just why
I talk the shit when I leave, man. It's like
talking shit to someone's back.
I'm ready to go. If you want to talk about it,
let's go. But, Kuro, what the hell?
I thought you were too larky, right? You guys didn't announce it. No, no to talk about it, let's go. But, Kuro, what the hell? I thought you were too lurky, right?
You guys didn't announce it.
No, no, I know. We have a partnership.
Bro, that's why I said
like two months ago is the first time I've heard
of the platform.
I mean, it's cool. I get it.
I don't even know where to start.
I get it. I get it.
I understand all the complaints.
I understand why you might feel that way about those things.
All I have to say is you guys saying that just means it's working.
He has a point there, man.
Serpent, any tips on how someone can get paid?
What was your question, Yogi?
I was going to ask if Serpent
has any more tips on 30...
Adam, your
mic is cooked. Go ahead.
Go again, Yogi.
Never mind. Never mind. Carry on.
No, no, you may ask
if he has any advice on what.
I was going to ask Serpent if there's any advice
on which projects do undisclosed shills so we can
all get this 35k RNG
making.
There's a lot of people that are doing
undisclosed shills out there. I would
go be looking at some of these guys that promoted
Trove and see what else they promoted. That seems like a pretty
good win. Wait, wait. Do you guys list that
stuff? No, no.
Undisclosed shills? No, I mean
someone's getting slashed for undisclosed shills right now.
Yeah.
Yo, but could you do a thing where, like, you put the Wayback Machine link to the tweet?
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
No, no, you don't even need that.
You can do at ethos agent save on a tweet and it'll take that
tweet and they'll put it on chain forever we do that all the time so like i will say like the one
benefit of uh wait can i do that to myself yeah absolutely yeah actually i got some fucking gnarly
tweets i gotta add this thing for i think we spread more kindness use it strictly for positive
for you bro i'm gonna sign up for ethos on like my other twitters and slash myself now bro this
is gonna be amazing i mean i don't know about you guys but i think it's pretty obvious to tell what
is an unisclosed show like i don't think... I mean, you read some of these tweets
and it's like, oh yeah, they're definitely paid to do this.
What's the guy that does the little
cartoons again?
Bold Leonidas.
Bold Leonidas. I'm just gonna go under
every one of his tweets
and just take them
to the blockchain, man.
Bold has partnerships with each of those companies.
I don't know if he does a disclosure
like once a month or something that they pay him
to include him in the
artwork. To be clear,
to be fair to Bold.
I think some of the guys that you've seen do it,
they find ways to
bury the paid promotion
or partnership
underneath the Seym more part of the tweet
or they just don't include it and I mean I think people have started to realize and catch on that
like actually most people understand it now and we just kind of look at each other and accept that
that's what's going on but I still think it's good that people are catching on and holding each
other accountable like I get the like oh shit like how dumb is it to go like slash someone or leave a review but like you know if you actually believe the space needs to get bigger and do not focus
on completely being selfish like we have to have more people come into the space and the more it's
difficult for them to onboard the more it's difficult for them to understand who's trustworthy
and who's not like the crypto is a joke no one's going to use it all your buddies are going to be
like fuck this thing i'm not going to buy salon i'm going to go buy your meme coins bro i mean that's just how it
works so um you know if you want to think about a vision that we can all get behind that that's
the same that's the main one have you guys thought about doing like some sort of um like campaign
where it kind of like you know it shows their trustworthy score so that like their new followers
go and check out everyone else that has a bad score yet what like you you just go and see all
the bad i mean like there's a there's a least credible leaderboard for sure i think that's the
one that most people agree is accurate in terms of like the the highest number of grifters correctly uh represented on ethos
yeah that this see that yeah that's that the leaderboard thing is super helpful man it's just
like if you have to sign up to see this stuff nobody knew is looking oh no yeah yeah no i mean
yeah you're right there is a problem there it's not easy to go get right but then you get to a
point where like oh everyone knows just like you know to go to ct just in a good discord groups your telegram groups whatever like eventually get to
the point where like wait but did you check their ethos score first and that's what my goal is it
it is very hard to get in front of new people um but i feel like that that's just part of what our
vision has to be is like we have to get in front of people i will say uh on serpent's behalf like i have the uh extension it's very easy to
just browse and when you see no like new accounts that you may not know they have like little
circles around their pfp and i don't remember even when i downloaded the extension but
i think i assume it was when i was like early when it was like invite only but uh it's been a huge
factor for me um and also it just hides people
with like a low score like when people are trolling you in the comments it's like nice to be able to
skip through when like you know it's a spam account with like a 400 score like all right
whatever i don't need to read it so there are benefits if you're on ct um all the time and
you want to be able to like look at something and
you don't follow them and like are these guys legit or are they not legit or what's going on
someone should like it's impossible to know everybody like the space is actually bigger
than you think so and sometimes you forget there's like people that i thought were reliable and then
i'll see them getting slashed and i'm like oh, Oh, for something. And I'm like, Oh, okay. It kind of gives, gives you, um, a red flag on them. Like, okay, this is
something to pay attention to. So, and you can't please everybody. Um, you know, if your product
is made for everybody, then it's not really like, it's not really doing its job. So this is made to,
um, create like some, some emotions and some, like some like, you know, some people aren't going to be happy with it.
But I think it does serve a purpose, especially for new people.
It's a great way to like see the history of someone.
So I think even people that aren't necessarily new, like there's probably a lot of blockchain participants who aren't chronically on CT.
Right. So just I don't know know i could see that being very useful i'll make my own opinions because i'm here all the time but
i can definitely see where this is very useful for a large uh portion of blockchain it's just
like how do you get new people to see it that's like kind of like where i'm at like
you don't even need new people right now kira because a lot of us are in like these pockets
like i'm a non-meme guy right like i didn't know half the people right now, Kira, because a lot of us are in like these pockets.
Like I'm a non-meme guy, right?
Like I didn't know half the people that were memeing and then people were telling me, dude, that's a scammer.
That's a scammer.
He's got to pay.
Like some of us are in like little bubbles and we have no idea of someone's track record until someone tells you, hey, he's not actually a bad guy or he's a good, you know, it's just, we have our own bubbles.
No, that's a valid point, man. I always forget, because, like, I'm here the most, so, like,
I just already know what all these people are into, man, because they've tried to scam me at least a dozen times before you guys wake up. I just give burwick claw a positive review yeah what
you like his dance moves bud yeah he liked the hip action there but like come on but i didn't know
like some things about like some people in the past like um the only one that comes to my mind
and i hate saying it but like elena like i've totally forgot about her like doing what she did
like there's just like things that um come up on ethos and you're like oh yeah i forgot about that word wait is that why
she got removed from all those group chats like two years ago yeah yes yeah she's tried to sell
a copycat fucking collection for 300k and was going to med school yeah dude. That makes sense. Hey, but like sometimes
you gotta give people the benefit of the doubt.
Like, you know, second chances, third chances,
fourth chances.
Like, I don't know.
True, but a good
Yeah, then let Benny
A good indicator of the future
is the past, right?
So, it's good to know and then make your own opinion from there.
I know you guys see Ben Ethan, that fucking request all day,
and I know he ain't getting up here, bro.
I just had to see.
I just had to see.
My bad.
I can't read certain letters, so I can't bring up some of these people,
but it's not because we're not trying to
give him a second chance
but it is just
bro he's had multiple fucking chances
bro that guy's had 99 chances
bro like and every time he does
exactly what you expect
yeah but I don't know
like I think people can change
I'm gonna slash Yogi.
He told me to buy a white, well, $800 million market cap.
You're going down, Yogi.
Just like my bags.
Actually, dude, that would actually make me kind of gangster.
Slash me a little bit.
I want people to think I've been in the hood.
Do that, please.
You've definitely been in the hood. That's for sure.
Yogi has never been into the hood
a day in his fucking life. Of course he hasn't.
He probably owns a lot of liquor
stores in the hood.
No, we're not a liquor store
family. We're a hotel family.
I've been to the hood. First of all, I went
to Chicago's outside. At least a couple
holiday inns in the mix, bro.
Body and Express.
We know those aren't in the fucking nice suburbs.
Hey, Serping, can I offer some actual legitimate constructive recommendation for the UI?
I just downloaded it to my phone, like the app, you know, where you save it to your home.
One thing that might be easier and
again do whatever you want with this the buttons for leaving a review it's a little bit confusing
maybe to simplify it to like you know plus sign for a positive review a negative sign or minus
sign for a negative review something like that just because there's there's four different
symbols yeah and i don't know what they mean and
so like i don't know what the priority of those four symbols are i understand the first one i
think is the review but for like a novice i i i want to know what those mean and so i'd be just
disincentivized or disinclined to be more active that's something just to consider good feedback i love it live feedback
we went from me joining there you go and getting shit on to complete 180 and we're getting feedback
for this again so i'm here for it all right you you let me know when the 1400 score thing goes
live with your cto because yogi is the first victim sorry yog. Let me go ask if we can release.
Let me see what we can do.
All right.
Good luck.
This is definitely the most excited Golden's been about anything.
Come on, man.
This space is so entertaining.
We know it is.
I don't know if I'm going to be able to sleep tonight.
I don't want to be on Golden's bad side.
And I'm really upset I shilled him White Whale at $2.2 billion.
I thought it was going to be another 50
bagger like Trump, but I was
sorry, Golden. I'm sorry.
I should probably disclose I was paid
35k to shill you
white whale at
that market. We're going to be pivoting
the coin to the Inc.
blockchain coming soon.
Is that right?
Yo, shout out Inky. We here.
I like the way you say fight,
Yo, he reminds me of better times.
Dude, it's from
Family Guy.
When he says, what are you
talking about? Do you want some water?
Okay.
You're definitely
getting slashed for that joke
horrible
what do you guys think of
Zach XBT
doxing the
troll founder you know you think that's dangerous
I don't give a fuck
nah let's fuck around find out dude
you steal 10 million bucks
good luck
no but anonymity should be
protected at all costs imagine one person gets and then the next person gets doxxed
alpha you're telling me if somebody takes 20k from you you're gonna be like you know what i
don't need to know who that guy is no i'm I'm finding him. 100% I'm finding him.
But, like, I didn't lose any money to fuck.
I'm kidding.
You got paid?
Damn, man.
I got to get paid.
Bro, I wish I got paid.
Like, imagine I got paid, bro, if I would have got paid 35 bands.
Like, bro.
You don't be talking about it like you do about lighter?
No, I didn't get paid for fucking.
Oh, actually, I'm slashing alpha.
Thank you, sir. Fucking lighter and that fucking chart. about lighter no i didn't get paid for fucking oh actually i'm slashing alpha thank you sir
fucking lighter and that fucking chart i want we can play this fucking game what happened with
the otg fucking notes uh yogi hey no one believed in gaming every you were a liar is the future of
finance it's nasdaq on steroids i told yogi not to do it so yeah like yeah yeah it's not jonah's
fault jonah actually told me not to but it was so don't put it on me. Yeah, it's not Jonah's fault. Jonah actually told me not to, but it was too late.
The money was gone.
But, dude, Lighter, everyone, like, Alpha,
you cannot compare Web3 gaming nodes to fucking Lighter
and that fucking disaster.
Lighter, I'm still holding that shit, and I'm probably...
Yeah, me too.
I'm down, like, 80%.
I got liquidated on half of it.
I got the spot bag left.
This thing is a fucking...
Dude, crypto's dead.
You guys all need to just sell your coins and move on.
Go buy some gold at the top.
Yogi, if you want, you can clip for us on live frame.
Let's do it, dude.
I need some KOL deals.
Are you guys paying $10 an hour or $20?
What's the going rate?
Ironically, you can... I'm dead act. You can actually make more than that because we pay what's called the cpm anywhere
from four to eight dollars per thousand views so i do want to get into content at some point but i
need to do it in a undoxed voice and face because my views are very inflammatory i tell you this
you don't need a face or do do anything oh dude and well you know
it's me though like i need to make sure no one knows i can track everything behind the scenes
but i'm not going to dox you i can oh perfect yeah because i'm about to go on some like alt
right alt left like i'm about to go weird yeah we were no part of posting a new article guys
go fucking slash that oh wow avax oh i just i just gotta slash it so it stops
happening buddy literally if i slasher it's just gonna say because avax i'm not even gonna give
like a whole reason i just left fin bags a positive review on ethos right now what does
avax do these days anyone actually like i'm not no no offense to avax i'm just curious they're having a um what do you call they're doing a chase right now about um
they're having a hackathon they have this they matched pump fun yeah they're having a hackathon
they don't have users they have institutions okay that's where the institutions are housed
yeah well the good news is trump just signed a bill to allow mental institutions so they're
gonna be on avax you didn't even believe it when you said it bro i love that for
you well why are so many of these chains though pivoting instead of like chasing users they're
like oh yeah we're the institutional chain like the institution i wonder why i'm well but it's
it's because of the lack of users 100 but like it's the thing is like institutions aren't using their chains they've pivoted to
xrp xrp is the longest fucking slow rug in crypto history brother like i don't know why no one
slashed fucking the whole entire blockchain yet avax was bullish when coop was there now that
coop is not there i don't even give a shit about the chain. It's the same with me and abstract, to be honest.
When Finn was there, I cared when Finn left.
I definitely didn't give a fuck when Finn was there.
Like, no offense or anything.
But, like, the Pudgies are cute and all that shit.
But what the fuck do those guys know about running a blockchain?
Bro, Finn is a goat.
Like, he was a marketing fucking genius.
A thousand percent, I will fucking stand on that.
But he got way too much fucking shit.
You know, there's certain hills that start with an F that you never want to stand on, brother.
Our parents warned us about this shit.
Anyway, all of you guys can clip on our platform.
We have money left.
And we are building.
And we're on Web3, but not really.
We work on top of all Web2 infra.
So we're not really a crypto business.
So join us.
I'm also in the gym and i'm out of breath
because i'm fat look at my pft all right so hold on we just funded like everything is there anything
left to be bullish on can i fuck man oh you the creator gator, you know? You guys still have.
Both you guys, too.
Bad brothers, we got to team up.
But, like, these guys are, these guys need to be influencers.
We got to do it.
It's time.
Catch your breath.
Not every...
Catch your breath.
Wait, I just noticed something on ethos.
I'm doing my fucking best, Gigi, okay?
I got you.
I'm still bullish on guns.
So, on ethos, you have nine days to make a decision on season two.
You have to pick an NFTft or a 50 stake so nine days what about a bullet can i pick a bullet otherwise um 20 of your xp gets
burnt so i just go make your decision yeah 20 times zero is what well do you have xp come on
it's just xp oh sorry i i was just i didn't even know we're
shitting on my bad wait so if i don't choose the nft i have you can choose the nfg yeah we're
for we're chill we're chill this is a pbe server slash next um no oh you can pick the enemy you can
pick an nft or you can stake 50% of your XP.
Does that mean I get more power to fucking slash people?
All right, so can I be bearish one second?
My counter is that the people with the lowest scores end up making the most money.
So therefore, they have the highest scores because I only follow the criminals in crypto.
But what if you're suspended and you can't vote?
You can lock them with your wallet
how would the wallet no one's gonna answer like my theory how would the wallet connect to like
the social you signed up with a wallets someone invited you serpent yeah serpent how do you answer
this if crypto is for criminals and the criminals make the most money but their scores are low why wouldn't I just search for the lowest scores to make
money um I mean because it's not always true right like it's like it's almost
always true please show me it when is it not true you'll go look up kook score
bro yeah kook whiz you know why they make money they make money because they
they're willing to take
marketing money and not disclose yeah yeah yeah but then but then like the thing is they can crime
it sure kind of like i don't know that many people that you didn't pull up their market maker score
where's their market maker score yeah i mean i feel like most people would agree that following
kook on a trade is a death wish yeah i really haven't had that's my friend bro and i would not follow him into a trade bro
you know when i started talking about pups i started fucking liquidating man like let's be
real about this the problem is i want to believe in your platform but crypto is for criminals
so like i don't know how you build a morality startup in like a pirate's den you know i've
already like i don't know how you do it i mean that's what sybil was saying earlier right like
the whole space is greed and money and i think when when i look around i can see that like it's
pretty clear right like i don't think that your take is wrong at all. Yeah, I like what your startup represents,
but it's almost like believing in science
during an era where the church was in power.
Yeah, it's a good idea in 100 years.
This has been my argument since day one.
Crypto is in the Wild West.
Everyone knows it.
It's 1870.
You have to get to a modern way of society.
In 1870, no one gave a shit about each
other they would rob trains because they would make money they would rob banks because they
make money there's still people that were the bankers there were still people that had families
and you know didn't um commit crazy crimes but like but here's the thing you don't realize if
you go read them in the history half of those crimes were orchestrated by insiders who gave them the keys so they could eat yeah yeah i mean like you know true or not that is how crypto
works too right so like um the we still have to level up as a society and like i in my case the
bare case for ethos which is kind of what you're saying is that like crime was the product all
long and without crime there's nothing in crypto and i refuse to is that like crime was the product all along and without crime
there's nothing in crypto and i refuse to believe that like i just i can't believe that that's true
um and so like yeah the first product market fit in crypto was silk road so i don't know that's why
i'm not so sure myself was it i mean like the first product market fit was yeah 100 transact
and send anyone any amount of money yeah you know why for drugs for drugs people use it to
buy drugs people use silk road to buy a lot of things though jonah not just drugs you could also
buy murder for hire let's not forget true uh guns you get anything that you couldn't buy whoa whoa
i used it to buy fucking green lasers you couldn't get in the fucking public market that's that's what
i used it for i actually started off with a serious take and then pivoted to a joke,
but there was actually a lot more being sold on Silk Road.
And to be honest, that was like a true free market
without any fucking bullshit top-down regulations.
So, like, yeah, dude, I'm actually a big fan of that.
Those assassin posts on Silk Road
were fucking honeypots, man.
Because I tried to hire somebody to kill somebody one time.
Oh, Scotty. Like, immediately, my phone started ringing. on Silk Road's we were fucking honeypots, man. Because I tried to hire somebody to kill somebody one time and like,
immediately
my phone started ringing.
I'm not gonna slash you
because I'm afraid of you.
The drugs are real, though.
What's, what's,
what's,
Scotty,
what's the best way
you know,
what is it called?
Here, give me a second to figure out how to word this without kill someone not kill somebody but uh incapacitate somebody without with with your
bare hands oh you hit them directly inside the adam's apple if they're a man yeah throat punch
dude if you've ever gotten hit in the nose
really fucking hard, it
fucking wrecks your man.
Like a broken nose.
Oh, it works on girls too. You don't have to worry about that.
Turo learned that from fucking
smiling friends. I know you did, motherfucker.
The nut kick thing is overrated.
It's unpleasant, but you can think through it.
Tuck's dad,
we were at a hockey tournament in Detroit,
and this guy kept on harassing us,
and he just walked over and punched him in the throat,
and the guy dropped instantly.
I was eight years old.
I saw a man of violence that day.
Always respected my buddy Tuck's dad after that.
If you're a skilled boxer,
and you can count on your first hit knocking them
out and you know how to knock out somebody that's obviously the most effective if you don't have the
because remember if you get it wrong you then have to start fighting and maybe you lose but
if you can't guarantee that you're gonna knock them out on your first punch
the throat like even a sloppy throat punch hurts like fucking shit or you can just
like uh you know scrape your ass against the fucking sidewalk and to do some brazilian jujitsu
also uh what's his name what are you gonna give him pink eye what the fuck are you talking about
what are you like a dog like you know you're wet you know how like the uh brazil they're like
mainly grapplers like they just kind of scrape themselves. Also, uh...
Talking about pink eye. Go for it, Alpha.
Tier 1 hater put out a tweet
saying the four horsemen
of federal honeypots are
Bonk, Axiom, World Liberty,
and Radium. I don't know what the fuck
that means, but he just put out
an in-depth fucking thread.
It means what it means, Alpha. If you know, you know.
I'm actually surprised you don't know what that means considering you trade a lot no no no i don't uh but it's organized crime alpha i don't know how you don't understand this
no no i don't understand it but it is uh you don't understand nothing alpha yeah i don't
understand anything except that the broncos are gonna win something but exactly holy shit you're a fucking genius what are the odds on that chicago oh he's not here
fuck all right well i guess i don't know sports yeah why ask somebody who got their account
fucking suspended i mean uh teach their own though i'm kidding i'm sorry fucking you know
you know who always talked about the uh c3p on you know who didn't Han Solo. And he got the girl.
So what does that tell you?
That one dude was a robot
and he had no interest in the woman.
True.
But...
As time progresses,
I think there's going to be more and more
of an interest in fucking AI bots.
And we're going to see.
Alpha, can we break out your schedule and have an AI day one day every week?
And then we should have an intervention space and we should bring someone
that's been slashed for the week onto your space.
By the way, just so you guys know, Whale's based in Germany.
I don't know if you guys knew that, but now you do.
Oh, good job.
Oh, we could get Whale to come.
And we could do one on
eddie i don't know if you guys saw eddie's viral too with some random guy yesterday i was hilarious
is that he on is that never no no never heard of that guy but uh i don't know we'll see we will
see still have you blocked after all this time who who again edward dancing edwards yeah i never heard of him uh but you know what it is
you guys should become friends honestly fuck that wait but you and eddie would actually get along
you guys have very similar body types personality body types you got me fucked up
you might as well add skin color.
You might as well add
sexual preference.
I mean, he is Lebanese.
I'm not a lesbian, brother.
First.
You're a Somalian. Sorry. My bad.
I don't see skin color alpha.
I see all colors.
Jonah, don't make me come for that nose, brother.
I got your nose.
Jonah, what is your PFP?
You got enough nose for both of us.
What's my PFP?
It's wartime startup mode, Jonah.
Yeah, that's Harold.
The body of Harold.
It's Joan Harold.
Yo, you should have...
You want to be Harold?
Bro, Jonah.
No, Joan Harold.
Go fix that PFP.
You should have told fucking Grok to make you bald.
Brother, you know the body. bald. Why would I do that?
No, because then it would be hard to really tell.
Yeah, it's true. Yeah, whatever.
Yo, bro, you gotta go like full
Brian Armstrong mode. You know what I'm saying?
I can do that.
You already have the Asian wifey.
You just need the bald head, bro.
Oh my god. You know what Nikki said?
She said the most offensive thing to me last night.
We're talking. She goes,
you look more Asian than me.
Who's Nikki?
Don't worry about it.
She said I have
cheeky eyes.
I love God for the fact
that he gave Jonah
his match in life.
And she's just as funny as he is.
She acts like a fucking Latina.
It's kind of annoying.
Is she like a figment of your imagination?
No, no, no.
She's real.
She's very real, bro.
She's very real.
No, she's expensive as fuck.
I know she's real.
I was just trying to give Jonah some fucking shit
and fucking heat for a second
Yeah but did you hear what he said?
She's like
Fuck
Yo dude
Oh man I love the fucking internet man
Damn
Before we dissect into
Jonah's love life if you guys are just joining us
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on how much higher we are
going in the next week
hey there Scotty how much
higher are we going next week
you're not going higher
okay let's stone this guy. Wait, are you gonna try the new Ponzi?
I just got myself in the Ponzi jail fund. Here, I tweeted something out about it earlier.
I'll give you a code if you want it. I pinned it up here. You can see it. It says,
just a reminder, law of depreciating returns.
And then there's a picture of the euthanasia roller coaster.
I hope this thing fucking sends just to make you crash out.
Yo, so, okay.
So, I signed up for this thing.
I had a code, right, Jonah?
And, like, yo, it's telling me, like, I got to wait to get into jail.
Like, that's not the way America works, though. So, like, what's going on telling me, like, I got to wait to get into jail. Like, that's not the way America works, though.
So, like, what's going on?
Yes, it is, bro.
Ever since ICE, bro, we need more jails, dude.
They're just too much.
They built one of the fucking Everblades.
I think the Appalachian fucking mountains need one, too.
I'm not going to lie.
What do we need? A jail or prison. Appalachian fucking mountains need one too. I'm not gonna lie. Keep some people.
What do we need?
A jail or prison.
Speaking of jail, what's going on with you in Minnesota,
Yogi? Are you getting, like, raided and shit?
I haven't seen it,
but I did go to downtown today
and there were signs, ice is not
welcome all over, so that was interesting.
You put that bullshit down right
uh i did not today because i had to meet someone and ironically yogi because the ice people are
definitely racist when they do call the insurrection act act please stay in your
house because they will take you what is the insurrection act yeah but this is where jonah
what if they created a sign for all of us to wear to show solidarity?
Oh my fucking God.
Yo, if you get a...
I'm not...
Yo, if you wear a fucking...
Punisher emoji.
No, but for real, Jonah, I agree.
People are gonna go wild.
I'm not trying to get caught up in any of that.
No, it's a deadass day in your house because...
No, no, of course.
Luckily, I'm far enough where my area
won't get raided because it's just not that type of area but they're actually they're fighting dude
i saw a video they started beating the shit out of each other by accident and they're going he's
one of us he's one of us yeah dude it's no people have lost their minds because i have a friend that
goes to that church that went on tiktok and he's like dude we were at church and they came in and like yeah so it's people are losing their minds everyone needs to calm down i've decided not
to share my opinion in person because i realize it offends a lot of people so there's no point
um but yeah it's uh there's a there's this really effective defense you should try it's it's it's called
carrying your id with you and showing it to them when they ask well yeah i have my license on me
yeah that's unbelievably effective bro what is first let me let me clear this up first uh
bro it is actually nuts i know scotty we talked about this a minute back but it was just like the
collapse of a fucking civilization we're seeing it in real time with the collapse of the fucking
dollar and just everything around us we're more and more wars and then we also do have like you
mentioned the mass deportations like this shit is looking more and more cooked by the fucking day
i'm not gonna lie alpha there's an app i'm building to fix this. I'll invite you to the Alpha group.
But jokes aside, I think people are way too dehumanized. I think the fact that there are
areas in Minnesota where people are walking around with AR-15s, not a good idea. And people
aren't able to separate the two out. I saw an article today that I thought was pretty interesting.
So in 2014, homomen or whatever the dude's name is, the ice guy, he's been the ice guy under Obama.
And he deported 400 some thousand people.
Trump has only deported like 200K so far.
And he's called the Nazi leader.
And then there's a CNN clip where they're like,
oh my God, I can't believe Obama's like deporting criminals out of Chicago. And they're doing like
nightly raids and they go on the raid with the ICE people and it's all positive. And now you see it
and it's all negative. And I just think it's rhetoric and just a bit of stupidity and maybe
Trump shouldn't have made it that big of a show. But at the same time saying that, hey, we want to
protect illegals is like bananas. So, and I also think anyone that's asking for civil war doesn't realize
like dude none of us have been in war let's be honest outside of me playing battlefield 6
like i've seen war guys like battlefield 6 in the cod trenches like oh my god but when shit starts
to go like when it's on like i don't think any of us want our local areas to burn down.
I am leaving if that happens.
I know a lot of people can't leave, but some of us are getting the fuck out.
I'm probably one of the few people who actually have been to a few wars.
You don't want any part of it.
Whatever part of you is curious, if you're envisioning yourself as the Rambo of the situation, you shouldn't do that.
Because you're almost certainly not.
You're going to be the guy tied to a fucking chair and fucking beaten with a goddamn butt of a rifle until you fucking give up whatever fucking meager belongings you have to the people raiding your town at the moment.
Because that's who most people are no dude yeah and people like i i just know stories from my grandpa because he was in
part of the part of india that got partitioned in 19 whatever 1947 and his whole thing has been
like dude i saw my uncle get beheaded as we left our homes like you do not want to be in a position
where all you leave everything behind,
everything's on fire,
you see a family member literally get, like,
boneside head off, running away.
He's like, that's not what you want.
Yeah, it's a level of awful that the West can't,
like, we're so far away from that type of life.
We're multiple generations from the last time
the average Westerner saw this shit, right?
So there's no, there's no appreciation for it it anymore which i actually think is part of the problem um it's it's beyond description awful like it's it is absolutely nothing you want a
part of like they keep romanticizing it because again it's people that have fucking never been in
it and to them it's all theoretical and it's the best description i heard of it because again, it's people that have fucking never been in it. And to them, it's all theoretical.
And it's the best description I heard of it is civil war.
It's like a knife fight in a phone booth.
Like it is fucking horrendous.
Like you,
yeah,
it's,
I don't even know what to say.
I think,
I think it may be inevitable.
The problem about the,
what,
what a lot of blood smells like.
It smells like iron and
it smells like metal yeah it smells like fucking metal yeah it's disgusting man it's like it's a
terrible fucking shit ever man you don't wish that on anybody man fuck that with a mix of gunpowder
don't forget the gunpowder, instead of smelling, what if
we go outside,
smell the flowers
and daisies and roses?
We are in a blessed
fucking position to be smelling
or just our living
conditions just in general.
We live in one of the greatest
times in the fucking world.
Yeah.
Greatest places. all these different things instead of like romanticizing war and trying to i don't know uh look at that
as a future maybe looking at the positives and where we're at right now i think is key
but i mean to each their own. To each their fucking own.
Just a heads up.
It's live.
You can slash at 1400.
Golden must be typing away right now. Oh, Golden is going absolutely off.
Tomorrow, people are going to wake up to just, like, their whole, like, scam life destroyed.
It's going to be amazing, actually.
What is it? I mean, Bobby said said it perfectly it's a fucking aura gamble uh if you do lose you fucking you're gambling your fucking aura
and your pull or whatever but if you are able to make some shit happen like you are showing you
have fucking pulls so i don't know it has to be the consensus too like if you are going against
somebody who people don't really i don't know consider a fucking to be the consensus, too. Like, if you are going against somebody who people don't really, I don't know,
consider a fucking scammer and you're trying to slash them
and the court of public opinion deems them as reputable,
then you're getting slashed and you're taking the fucking hit.
We wait and see, though.
We see how this shit fucking plays out.
Also, it is 5 p.m., so i think we're about to call it today denver nuggets are also oh we'll go rb first but yeah nuggets are playing the
fucking dookie ass dog shit ass lakers so we'll see how thatpa? Nah, Lakers are kind of dooky, so I'm not going to lie.
Go, Lakers.
Guys, I have a serious question about something really serious.
Go, Robbie.
Yeah, like, are we buying Coppa?
No, I'm not.
Okay, another question.
We are stealing Coppa, though. We are stealing copper, though.
We are stealing.
Yeah, another thing.
What's the best stock to buy if you want to buy copper?
And is there a way to buy it in kg?
Imagine one stock is 1 kg.
Is that possible?
Am I stupid?
Because I don't know about stocks.
I mean, unless you're actually buying the thing you can go to your fucking uh what is it called your uh well your banker bank
buy futures like you can genuinely just fucking go to your fidelity your charles schwab whatever
that equivalent is in the fucking uk but i'm pretty sure you can buy Copper Futures there.
I want to let you struggle.
The term is brokerage.
Brokerage, my bad.
I'm sorry, Jonah.
English is not my first language or my second language.
Oh, I know, I know.
Well, you know, just stay inside when the Interaction Act comes in.
Fuck you mean by that?
Okay, so can I buy it in KGs?
Stop overcom complicating this can i buy it in kgs or like
or like do i have to like invest in companies that that get the culpa like i'm stupid so you're
asking five retards on a stage about it you know hey speak for yourself are you we literally have
gemini clawed open we have the god computers you can ask
and it'll give you a real answer
they don't give me real answers
I think
Jonah would give me a better answer
and Scotty's talking about
carrier IDs, brother I got pulled over
this weekend and guess what I did not have
my ID on me
how did the officer act
no they were actually extremely friendly there was two of us were you wearing your box top is
that why uh yes i did no i was not wearing a box top actually i was wearing uh i forgot what
exactly i was fucking wearing but uh yeah it was very smooth fucking sailing and i didn't have my
id i did have my license uh no not not license. Registration and insurance.
But yeah, it was smooth sailing.
You don't need your ID.
But yeah, on that note, we will call the fucking space.
If you guys haven't followed all the speakers,
make sure you're following them solid people in the space.
But we will be back tomorrow.
Same exact time.
Go Denver fucking Nuggets.
Appreciate everybody who came up and spoke
and everybody in the audience.
But yeah, we will be running it uh yeah tomorrow go lakers talk tomorrow Thank you.
