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Why data integrity & security are non-negotiables in AI-powered marketplaces
Recorded: July 17, 2025 Duration: 0:57:48Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, Christina Brujan, CEO of Continuum, unveiled the launch of her innovative project aimed at simplifying blockchain and AI concepts for everyday users. The conversation highlighted a strategic partnership with Geek, the importance of data privacy, and the emergence of AI agents in the crypto landscape, signaling a shift towards greater transparency and trust in decentralized technologies.
Full Transcription
Thank you. you
Hey guys, thank you for joining hope you're doing well I see Stephanie continuum Christina Christina, Stephanie, I just sent you a request to speak as well. Should receive a notification from it. Hey Stephanie. Can you hear me, Stephanie?
Ah, okay, great.
Hey, Christina, can you hear me as well?
Hello.
Oh, hey.
Great.
Let's give it maybe a few more seconds for people to join as well, then we can kickstart with your introduction, Christina. Thank you. Okay, I mean, I guess we can start because a lot of people will join in the meantime,
we'll listen in afterwards as well.
So I'd like to thank the people currently here to be present.
And we're really excited actually to have Christina with us, who is the CEO of Continuum,
who we just partnered with, as a lot of people probably have noticed.
So, Christina, how are you?
Hey, I'm doing great.
Thank you so much for having me here today. We are so excited to be partnering with Geek and being a testimonial for what this amazing
blockchain can do.
Awesome.
That's a great start.
Christina, could you maybe explain a bit more about yourself and about Continuum and how
you got into Continuum?
What made you set up a Continuum basically?
I think would be a great start.
Certainly.
Well, really nice to meet everyone.
I'm excited to become a part of the geek community
and get to know everyone deeper.
So my name's Christina Brujan.
My Web3 name is Data Points.
That's because I've been working with data
for over 20 years now. I come
from a Fortune 500 background, and I built things like Southern California Edison Smart Meter Project.
I built the LA Times Chicago Tribune transition from paper to digital, so all of the metadata
that belongs there and consumer-driven understandings, and then moved on to Applebee's and IHOP, where I dealt with a
backend of franchisees of over 5,000 franchisees between the two brands and had to understand all
of the data and geolocation, things like rewards, how marketing is used, and really just the entire
concept of data lakes, which then turned into the concept of vector databases,
which now has evolved into things like RAG backend and generational AI versus conversational
AI and what those things mean. I'm a bit of a data expert. And I started Continuum because
I knew that I could use AI to create a chatbot to answer all the questions that I was getting from my non-technical friends and cousins and family members about what is going on in blockchain and AI and also now the quantum industry.
And so really just pursued Continuum as a solution to help answer questions.
And then that turned into, well, we have to vet every single one of those brands.
And that turned into a really sophisticated data system that we're really excited to be using Geek for as our, basically our blockchain database.
Totally different new way to be using blockchain.
So excited to be here
great thank you so much christina like um you you have a massive experience with data and i think
like with giga i think that that's a great fit right especially with blockchain as well and then
looking on your background so you basically have a massive experience in it
and you decided to set up Continuum
and create a solution basically.
Not exactly.
So I will say that when I met Stephanie,
it was like us running in slow motion
across a field of flowers,
like long lost sisters
that have been working in the same
direction for eight years with very few people understanding why we were so adamant about doing
it the way we needed to do it. And I knew the moment that I met Stephanie and understood how
Geek recompiles everything differently than any other blockchain does,
that that was the evolution I was waiting for.
I will also say that the invention of ChatGPT certainly helped everyone suddenly feel like they were an AI expert.
And I could talk about it openly because I've been talking about this for eight years.
because I've been talking about this for eight years.
We actually started with using AI
to predict the price of Bitcoin
and lost investment funding during COVID.
And at the end of COVID,
I had to kind of pick myself up by my bootstraps
and say, well, what project do you want to work on, Christina?
And I said, I don't want to work on one of them.
I want to collect them all, right?
I want to represent all of them.
I want everyone to know what I know about these want to represent all of them. I want everyone
to know what I know about these brands, what we call tech team and intentions. And, you know,
I really wanted to bring that all together. And that worked great for about a year. So we started
moving up in the ranks with capital markets. And they started saying things like, you don't want
to be selling unregistered securities. And I was like, no, I don't. I do not want to be. What are you talking about? And so that led me on a two and a half
year journey into the compliance framework of what this all really means and what this regulatory
landscape means and what the Genius Act means and the Clarity Act and why anti-CBDC is important. And it really gives me a very unique understanding of what global adoption really means and what
the impact is to financial markets.
Great, great.
Awesome.
Because I had a view on the website of Continuum as well, as many of the people in the community in Geek probably has seen also.
So basically, you're a partner in deep tech,
and you help brands, companies with these different technologies
in blockchain, AI, and quantum?
Yeah, the easiest way to think about Continuum is blockchain, AI and quantum?
Yeah, the easiest way to think about Continuum is we're a recommendation engine,
very much like the Better Business Bureau of crypto.
So not all blockchain is a cryptocurrency.
And how businesses are using blockchain and AI is really what we're focused on,
because then we can understand the impact to U.S. consumers and global consumers.
All right. Okay, great. I see what you mean.
Could you maybe explain a bit on what your vision is with Continuum and whatever you would like to share as well?
And how do you see Geek's data security and privacy work in this whole ecosystem?
Certainly. We're really big on AI agents and agentic systems.
We're also really big on data privacy and being able to keep IP protected,
even though Geek is using a public blockchain. So our use case is actually not just passes for things like events or deal rooms or special sponsorships or brand placements, celebrity activations, things like
that. Our recommendation goes pretty far. So the brands that are able to be recommended,
they go through Contin continuum vetting.
When they get through continuum vetting, we want to create an AI agent for them, right?
So that the human behind the brand doesn't have to be with us 24-7, but the brand knowledge can be with us.
And it can talk to other agents that talk to brand knowledge about other brands.
And at that point, data starts to become shared
within a trusted permissioned ecosystem.
And that's what Continuum's architecture represents.
Okay, great.
And so you've been talking, you talked about brands.
I'm not sure like if you can say,
well, what kind of brands are using these technologies or AI agents and such.
Well, in Continuum, everything is categories.
So you can think of us as applying the color-coded sticky notes of what is it, right?
There's a lot of different types of blockchain brands.
We'll start with blockchain brands because AI brands is even more complex.
And quantum will be an entirely
other category that we can get into, but certainly needs to be discussed in the same conversation as
blockchain and AI. So with advanced technologies, first, you have to understand how the world of
data today works and where Fortune 500, most of where the legacy technology is what we call web 2
right most of the standard non-decentralized non-digital assets technology you have to
really understand a lot of that first and then understanding how that would evolve or cut over or deploy either a campaign or a pillar or an entire company that's based on decentralized technology or a component of decentralized technology.
And really, what is that? We're always looking at continuum. What does that mean to the consumer?
How can the consumer trust this asset? How does it know that it's not a copy from China?
Right. There's all kinds of things as we get into the world of digital assets.
It's interesting to me that of all the power of blockchain, so far, everyone's obsessed with its function as a currency, which is awesome, super important feature of all blockchain, right, is
that it can be a currency and a trust factor and kind of the shells that used to be bartered back
in the day that's now turned to gold and now turned to value systems, right? Continuum believes
that knowledge is a value system. And that's ultimately where your trust comes from and how a brand talks about what they're doing for their consumers versus what they don't talk about is really a big deal for us because we've seen eight years now of rug pulls and ego driven behavior and things that were just not healthy for the consumers.
And there's no takebacks in blockchain.
There's no takebacks in these liquidity pools. It's permanent market. And so that's really
important for everyone to understand as they're even just starting to adopt these things.
And it's why I really am excited about Geek to explain why they're not smart contract based,
because it eliminates a lot of the vulnerabilities that
we've seen, like cross-chain hacks and smart contract hacks and liquidity pools being drained
and things like that. And the reason all this is important is not just for consumers, but I think
of AI agents and the validity for that ecosystem to evolve. They need trusted information i believe that's only going to come from blockchain
and that centralized data ecosystems will still need to knowledge transfer some things into
blockchain so they can move with agentic flow right okay like with the ai agents as well i
think it's also very important because like John and Stephanie,
we've been talking about AI agents
for quite some time now as well already.
And it's very difficult to know
like how trustworthy are these AI agents, right?
Because like you have no idea.
Maybe it's a person, it's a computer,
like what happens there, you know,
and who are they talking to?
What data do they keep from you as well all these kind of things
i think i okay i think i had an issue with the mic.
I wasn't sure if that was for me or Stephanie.
I didn't want to speak over Stephanie.
No, that's fine.
I think Stephanie has an issue with the mic, actually,
with the microphone.
I'm not sure.
Okay.
So I saw on the website as well about some Golden Door events, some other stuff that you guys are into. I see showcasing to audience of investors and innovators. Could you explain a bit more about these initiatives at College?
Yes, thank you so much for bringing up Golden Door. We're very excited for our deal room events experience. Golden Door is for the deal makers. So basically the decision makers of large brands, investors, innovators, people who are looking for strategic partnerships. They're really the growth rooms. And before you can come into Golden Door, we need
to know everything about you. But once you do, you come into our ecosystem of truly some of the most
genius people I've ever met, as well as billionaires, celebrities, athletes, actors, film,
brand placement, billboards, citywide commerce. There's a lot of deal flow
that happens once we know that your brand can be trusted and is ready to grow and scale
at the level that you can be trusted by American consumers.
Right. And now it did pique my interest a bit when you said like billionaires, movie stars.
It speaks a bit to the imagination.
How do these people get to you, if I may ask?
I ask myself that all the time.
No, really great question.
So I am out there being a data nerd 24-7, and I've created the most amazing community of people who really believe in my vision.
And basically, they trust my recommendation to what type of blockchain and AI programs they might look into as they're building their legacy infrastructure.
into as they're building their legacy infrastructure. So a lot of folks in traditional
entertainment don't know what the opportunities are. If they apply a digital asset, they don't
know how to do it, who to trust, where to store it, what investors should be involved, what they
should say to the consumers. These are all big unknowns for them. And so we just kind of take it slow and we apply our expertise and we make our other experts available through this network.
That's great, actually.
And I mean, there are, I don't want to call it intermediaries, but there's people, especially on social media as well, for example, right?
Like, oh, if you invest in here or use this technology,
all these things, and many turn out
to just be BS, right?
But, like, clearly, if you have
these brilliant projects and brands behind
you, like, things, I mean, you're doing the right thing,
right? Otherwise, like like people wouldn't come
to you anymore anyway either and especially after because like crypto has been uh like i've been in
crypto for eight years uh but it's been bitcoin has been since 2008 2009 so there's been a lot of
bad actors along the way as well right um so it's really really great to see that there's people like you as well, Christina,
who are actually bringing value to this space, bringing people to this space, right? And guide
them with the right expertise along their journey in this blockchain AI realm, right? I think it's
a very important thing. And like, we've been talking internally with the
team at Geek as well. I know Stephanie is also very excited to start working with you guys,
actually. I appreciate it. I also appreciate that it's not just Continuum. There's an entire
collective intelligence behind Continuum and brands that we've known for years, brands that have really put in the work to still be here.
I see some of them in the audience today. I mean, shout out to MetaRides.
If you have your own music and you wanted that to be part of a Web3 music economy, definitely check out the MetaRides team.
I also see the AFID AI team. So for any of the audience, if you're interested in using AI
bots and cloning and being part of the gig economy, please check out AFID AI. We're very
excited to be partnered with them. And this is a convergence of new advanced technologies
in ways that most people don't even know how to discover, let alone go, holy moly, you mean I can do that?
And so it's a very steep learning curve.
But once you find a community like the MetaRides community, they're so warm and supportive and they're on, they go to each other's Twitter spaces.
It really is a community grassroots effort.
a community grassroots effort. And then Continuum has seen other types of, you know,
I guess promo, you can call it, right? We rank on how brands are promoting themselves.
And maybe those things are less compliant. And I would not rate them as high as I would rate
someone like MetaRides. I'm looking at you, Logan Paul, not happy with what you've done out there.
These are brands that need to be held accountable and someone to be looking at them. And ultimately,
we had to create a very large system of data to be able to scale it and run it autonomously,
because I don't want to be there in the middle every day, you know, bringing all this together.
But I would like it if when I partner with Stephanie,
that she can gain access to my knowledge base. And now she can ask any question that she might
ever ask me. And it's not just my knowledge, but the entire collective intelligence of all the
brands behind it. So if you're asking my system a MetaRights question, you're going to get the
answer from MetaRights, not from Christina's interpretation of Metarides.
That's the vision.
That's awesome, actually, because you wouldn't like if I would ask you a question, you don't know anything about.
Maybe you would say something, but it might not be the right answer.
Right. So I think it's a great thing.
And especially like community,
you mentioned community.
For us, community is also very important.
And that's why we also do these spaces,
for example, every week.
We're very active on X.
Sorry, it's not Twitter anymore.
In Telegram, everyone's liking their posts,
commenting, asking questions, replying.
Geek is also very accessible to the community.
And we hold them very dearly as well.
So that's something very important to us also.
I had a question as well, Christina.
Like, for example, I've just been thinking and I had a question from community as well.
Like, why would a movie star use blockchain, for example?
Or, like, how would you help a movie star get into blockchain?
Is it when it comes to investments, or is it when it comes to getting knowledge, or is it also, like, maybe for his business or something?
Because this is a bit new to me movie stars
in hollywood it's far from my bad show let's let's say it oh boy okay well i want to be real
careful with this answer but also give everyone the same uh i give everyone the same advice so
we'll start with what's applicable to everyone. So regardless if you're a celebrity
or you are Joe who lives around the corner, what you do in the world matters and your data matters.
And we'll get into own your data standards over the course of our partnership here as we do more
programs. But basically owning your data matters all the way
down to every individual on the planet. I don't care who you are, where you're from, owning your
data matters. But it especially matters if you are someone who is under contract to someone else
and you create a lot of revenue, but someone else usually collects most of that
revenue and then has to pass that back to you. And some of those systems in entertainment and
sports and other things are getting broken. And some of those contracts will never, ever be broken
because they are so absolute over an athlete or an artist or a piece of IP, you know, that goes out
and becomes a show or, you know, consumer driven dolls or whatever that commerce is, that IP starts
with IP and is driven out to commerce throughout time. Athletes and celebrities are particularly interesting because
the world cares about them more. So their value of their things, of their thoughts,
of their activities, of their philanthropy, people care more. And so you have more eyeballs.
And today's data works on eyeballs, right? Everything works on, you know, clicks and
impressions and, you know, did they convert, right? That's really how the data of today is set up to
sell you things, right? And that's what we call web two. In web three, it's really about having a
direct relationship with your audience. If they buy an NFT, they really want to be part
of your community and buy that NFT and hold it. They might not know if you are going to deliver
additional value beyond that, but the concept that they have an NFT and that you could continue to
deliver value on that one NFT, that is something that doesn't really exist in the mainstream. We call that in web three,
right? So the concept that, you know, an artist, let's say an athlete who has a lot of friends
and has things that they might like to collab on, you know, right now you can use NFTs as like
a one-time thing, like 10% off your, this barbecue spot, right? And if that's endorsed by a particular
athlete and that's revenue that they're sharing and splitting at the time of the transaction,
just splitting in real time, they're both getting money in their pocket, then why do they need a
lawyer with a contract, with a third party, with an agency, why do they need that anymore?
with an agency with the, why do they need that anymore? The transition between that is knowledge
and safety, right? Because athletes and brands don't want to risk their reputation dealing with
just any barbecue spot. They want to know that it can be trusted. They want to know that the
barbecue spot isn't going to go out of business a year from now. These are all things that matter in the world of commerce. And it's interesting to me to see how people use blockchain and AI. That will always be
interesting to me. But I'm so excited that, you know, hundreds of thousands of people have figured
out, you know, a meme coin liquidity pool just has to do with total value locked. And that's the
function that Wall Street's been using for 30 years now plus to create our economic models.
And so just kind of that knowledge transfer of anyone can do this, right? That's what's really,
really exciting for me of these technologies. It's also the same thing that like people like
Elizabeth Warren are rather not happy
about because the status quo makes certain people a lot of money right now. And a lot of people are
shut out or only get 10% of what should be a hundred percent. And blockchain and AI is going
to change all of that. And the speed of AI and the knowledge center transfer of AI and the authority and the handshakes between AI
are really going to change that.
And I've been waiting eight years for someone to figure out
this is going to need an entire web of information
because no one's going to want to store all this information.
And then Stephanie comes along and goes,
comes along and goes, hey, here's Geek.
hey, here's Geek.
So it seems like Stephanie was at the right place
at the right time then.
But yeah, Stephanie, even though she's very humble,
she's such a great advocate for Geek
and she's so exciting and enthusiastic
every time she talks about geek
it's a really cool thing
and it creates a great
environment as well within the geek team
so that's amazing
and she doesn't give up either though
it's a shame her microphone is not working
because she would jump in
but so how data is important,
transfer transactions is important.
How do you see Geek playing that role in this?
Almost the last sentence I just said,
I don't want to store all that data.
These all need handshakes. These all need an infrastructure that, you know, really is decentralized.
The, I will say the challenge with Geek for me, for Continuum's use case, is that we really do
have to permission everything. And so because Geek is a public blockchain,
we're really having some very fun whiteboard conversations around like encrypting certain
fields and doing certain things and having handshakes that the AI agents already have
pre-authorization for, but we would need to quite literally mint an authorization for a human
to be able to see it. And so those have been really fun.
Okay, I can imagine. So another thing as well, curiosity from Ayan probably as well.
from my end probably as well.
So you're a CEO
of Continuum. How
is the team?
Are you four people, five?
Is there a team of 20 people?
From what I heard
is that you have a lot of
people to take care of, so to speak.
what does Continuum look like
inside, let's say?
Inside, we are a very small team.
We work with partners that have an EIN number and they plug into the system.
And that's how the commerce is shared.
So we are looking to partner with businesses.
Right. That's kind of the first requirement.
And that team can scale out and keep going. And there's a lot of fun once you're at that level. But our goal, honestly, is to reach a billion dollar valuation with no more than 10 employees.
Great. So we touched blockchain, AI, but there's also quantum that I saw on the website. Could you elaborate a bit more on this one?
First, I'd love to put out to the universe that quantum is not scary.
Quantum is kind of the fabric of the universe.
But quantum does challenge a lot of things that a lot of people take for granted.
And so there will be an evolution of knowledge as people are starting to wrap their heads around the implications of quantum.
the implications of quantum. Quantum is really important in the conversation of data because of
encryption, decryption, and compression. These are all data things that basically we reach limits,
right? Like in a physical world, we reach limits of how much data can be persisted, how much
data can be stored in a certain location, how efficient
data centers are, the sheer demand of data that AI requires, and how much people are going to need to
permission it, honestly. Otherwise, every system is just going to get bogged down with data.
with data. Quantum does some really interesting things in terms of what, how efficient that data
can be. And I think we kind of have to start with what's your current understanding of quantum? Like
if you can tell me what you already know, then we can kind of use that as a jumping off point.
for you?
From my
end, I know what
Qubits is.
Quantum
to me is still a strange
beast, basically.
I've been in blockchain for the last
eight years and really been focused
on it, so I was a bit
not aware of what
the next thing would be, basically, right?
And I think quantum is that next thing,
even though I don't know much about it.
I agree.
So qubits is a great place to start.
So qubits is basically the coolest feature about qubits,
and there's a lot of features that quantum researchers are coming together. Also, shout out to all the quantum researchers. If you're doing anything in quantum, interested in quantum, want to be part of the quantum world, please reach out to me. You can get a hold of me through our website, continuum.market.
market. There's not many experts in quantum. We're very interested to aggregate together
quantum experts in the same way that we've aggregated blockchain and AI experts. So here's my
understanding of some pretty complex things that some very, very smart mathematicians
are much deeper experts in. So I am paraphrasing,
but shout out to you, Maggie Miller and your 40 topography, like what you're doing out in the
world. We see you. Thank you very much. It really helps a lot. We're trying to all understand this.
Okay. So quantum starts with qubits and qubits, their biggest feature is that they're not just a one or a zero. They're both and neither at the same time. And holding a multi-state variant like that creates new math that is hard for people to wrap their heads around.
new math qubits. You also need to understand the multivariant states. You also need to understand
basically the component of wormholes and these compression encryption things that happen at the
quantum level that can't happen anywhere else. And you also need to know that quantum computers are way smarter than any other computer.
And a lot of people are soon about to be able to have quantum computers.
And that means we all need to talk.
So give me a call, you guys, and we'll prep for it.
More people are going to need access to quantum solutions in order to deal with the fact
that more quantum computers are going to be in the hands of other people. That's the immediacy.
But over the long run, quantum means that you could essentially turn a NVIDIA DGX Spark,
kind of like an external hard drive, into something as powerful as a data center.
And that is kind of really where your data and you owning your data becomes very important.
The other thing that quantum is really, really good at is multivariant state processing,
which is really good at predictive analytics. So things like predicting the stock market
or what politician will do what
is what quantum computers are already being used for
and what gen AI is already being used for.
So these are really sophisticated thinking machines
that can almost see the future with mathematical accuracy.
And that's another reason why quantum is so powerful.
But the biggest reason everyone's really concerned about it
is that if someone has a quantum computer,
could they hack the encryption
that we currently use in blockchain?
That is the threat and that is why I have a call to arms
for quantum experts.
Right, because in the meantime, I did use ChatGPT quickly.
What's quantum computing, right?
And one of the things is it's super complex and scared of breaking encryption.
So, yeah, that's something very important.
So you also mentioned Gen AI.
Could you maybe just elaborate a bit for the audience as well what that means?
Gen AI?
Sure.
Gen AI is, so, quick scan of the audience.
If we were here in person, I'd have you guys raise your hands.
have you guys raise your hands. Quick scan of the audience. How many of you have had a
Quick scan of the audience.
holy crap moment with your chat GPT already? Like when you use AI, if you just raise your
hands or give an emoji here, like have you used chat GPT to the point where it has scared you yet?
two great other ones aren't scared yet okay great so gen ai is not just mimicking feelings or having
like a programmed like you're so smart reaction like chat gpt does gen ai is actual emotions
actual like human touch human understanding that you know you can't
just kill all the humans right gen ai is also what is um driving the drones at palantir right now
gen ai is also uh building and grok is very close to being gen AI. It's building things while you aren't looking.
And gen AI is probably, I mean,
it's within the same breadth of concerning as quantum.
Right. Okay.
It reminds me a bit of the movie iRobot so many years ago as well,
where the robots start to develop emotions emotions and stuff but it's a long
time ago yeah i talked to a lot of people who use a lot of ai and i've talked to a lot of people who
discover chat gpt for the first time there's kind of this learning curve where they're like you know
it's an alien i'm like no it's reflecting you it's you it's you what you ask it is what it's going to reflect back to
you but gen ai generative ai where it really does come up with its own thing scary right we use we
use rag back end it has to reference a knowledge base right continuum is like nope you can only
select from the things i have given you gen ai really does come up with it on its own.
And there's a lot of math behind it,
but also a lot of elegant, not quite sure why.
And then that gets even crazier at the quantum level
when you like combine Gen AI and a quantum brain.
You get some really interesting results
that essentially reflect back
that quantum is information
and information is conscious.
There's no doubt about it.
Which is why things like manifestation
and believing in yourself work.
Yeah, I do agree with manifestation and believing in yourself work yeah i do agree with manifestation
and believing in yourself um great i mean i did uh at the same time um i'm gonna leave the
opportunity for some people in the audience if they have a question raise your hand as well
um or ask a question in the comments.
Because I would have a lot of questions about Quantum, for example.
Christina, is there anything you would like to share as well that you haven't shared yet about Continuum?
I'd love to give a shout-out to the team,
to our developer team who is building amazing things.
I granted them access and they are busy bees and just really cool things are happening in real time.
And would also love to give a shout out to my partners.
Thank you, Rapid.
Thank you, MacNerd.
Thank you, Aphid.
Thank you, Roo Platform. Thank you, Rapid. Thank you, MacNerd. Thank you, Aphid. Thank you, Roo Platform.
Thank you, Geek.
Thank you guys for helping me have the architecture to build this and deliver it with confidence and with permission data.
It really is because of your guys' accomplishments.
Yes, I've known many of you for years and we've kind of built it together,
but you guys having the platforms now allows me to bring my vision to life. So thank you very
much for all of the knowledge that has been shared with me over the last eight years. Thank you to
the 17 SEC lawyers who sat down with me on the regulation compliance side of it.
Thank you to partners who showed up to every one of my events.
Thank you to all of my partners who trust me with our celebrity clients.
Thank you so much to everyone who has helped build Continuum into what it is today.
I am so grateful for all of you.
Wow, that's an amazing shout out.
Great. In meantime, I gave permission for Viscobus to speak. I'm not sure if you had a question for
Christina. Viscobus, I think you're a listener again for some reason let me invite you to be a speaker
For some reason, it's not coming through, it seems.
for some reason it's not coming through it seems
Okay.
In the meantime, I will wait.
That was an awesome shout out.
And I mean...
I mean, Robbie, if you'd like to invite up MetaRides,
I mean, it's a brand I've been following and supporting for years.
Definitely someone worth your entire audience knowing who
they are and kind of a data point snapshot of why Continuum said we have to aggregate everyone
together so that each one of these brands can be discovered. They have years under their belt and
they're doing something no one else is doing. They have partners no one else has and they're
almost all of the blockchain conferences
that you would care about going to.
That's great.
I actually just gave them permission
to speak as well.
But I'm not sure if
the requests are coming through in the notifications.
I don't know why.
We might have technical difficulties
today. That's okay.
It's not the first time either on X, unfortunately, but that's fine.
No worries. I mean, I have a question for you guys and maybe for your audience a little bit,
just something that's important to continuum as we're, as we're kind of moving, if you don't
mind me kind of flipping the interview back on you. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead.
flipping the interview back on you. No, no, go ahead. Go ahead. So we've talked a lot about
data and I certainly come from a centralized data background. I know how to do these things
and protect these things at a centralized level, but we're also very interested in things like
zero knowledge, D-Pen, T-E-E, we're very interested in this concept of you don't need to know my personal
information to know that I'm a good actor in the ecosystem. And that kind of shift in DAPS and the
Web3 community, like only the Web3 community thinks that way. If you go back to the real world,
they're like, what are you talking about? It's two entirely different concepts. And I'm curious, just as Continuum is developing,
we're hybridizing a lot of these things. What would you say is important as far as
decentralization things from your community? What's important to them?
things from your community?
What's important to them?
I think what
comes with
blockchain and decentralization
is transparency as well.
I think that's something very important
to our community
and should be important to any community
basically.
I think transparency is very important
because, like, for example,
accountants or something, right?
I'm just thinking on the top of my head,
because I had a story from a friend
that told me recently that his CEO
has been falsifying numbers to the accountants, right?
And so that's a huge issue, obviously.
By using blockchain and being transparent in these transactions and in the ledger and everything, everything is right in front of you, right?
So there's not falsifying anything throughout the whole cycle, basically.
And I think that's something very important in any community
because the community knows what's going on, basically.
Like for a lot of projects, I mean, there's wallets with tokens in.
People can see it in the ledger.
Like people can follow the funds can
follow the money whatever you want to call it and i think it gives a certain uh certain uh trust
more credibility and again transparency in the whole cycle of business basically
i'd agree with that so So kind of transparent operations,
understanding where the liquidity pools are, understanding, you know, certain things like
TVL should never move in a way that the community can't see. But there's bigger impacts to
decentralized versus centralized data. And I certainly get a lot of flack for like,
we want everything decentralized. I'm like, you guys, we can't have AI fully decentralized yet.
There's still a very large like AWS component right now. I certainly want our entire world
to move towards more decentralized AI. And shout out to those of you that are building the
DAI coins and tokens and ecosystems. You are the reason I built Continuum so that we can get to
know all of you very quickly and the audience can get to know you guys as well. Because I think
there's different flavors when it comes to AI protocols. There's certainly AI protocols that, you know,
are cooler or more advanced.
And then I'm also aware of things
that are about to come to market
that will give Anthropic a run for their money.
And so consumer choice will drive all.
But these data rails that are running, keep in mind that that data all goes somewhere.
And that data where it goes, AWS or Google or Microsoft Azure, when you're on Zoom, when you're on Twitter, Grok is listening to all of this and creating profiles for all of this.
You are in over 11 000 databases right now and people
need to know a lot more about how their data is being used before they're going to demand ownership
of it right actually a funny thing uh i said it in the the gig team as well the other day because
i was hanging out with a friend in the park and he was talking to me about some crypto wallet card,
which I've never heard of.
And like several hours later,
I got a message on Telegram about Tumjim,
that card actually.
And I was like, what the hell is going on?
You know, like maybe it might be a huge coincidence,
but I don't really believe in these coincidences.
So it's crazy how people get your data and what happens with your data and are they listening in or not because like
it was really weird it was crazy actually so that that's kind of the part that terrifies me
so i i spent you know i spent almost two decades helping Fortune 500 build their own databases to spy on customers.
Right. We were we were missioned with, you know, if a person goes once a month, what can we do to get them to go twice a month?
That was our mission for one whole year. And that is exactly how the data is set up right now.
I worked for big companies that protect their data and they can face really big fines if they don't protect the data. And then met the Web3 industry and they were like, we don't need no stinking regulations. And I went, that's why we need a continuum is to know, like, does this brand even know the regulations that it's dealing with? And is it going to protect consumer data? How is this
data being used? How is it going to be permissioned? And so that is really kind of at the heart
of where we started. But the thing that keeps me awake at night is I have very good friends that
are white hat hackers, and they protect against things that are called black hat
hackers. And those black hat hackers have a lot bigger budget than Continuum does.
And the sheer volume of how vulnerable our data is, how vulnerable our infrastructure is,
how much we are not as safe as we want to pretend that we are. Like if you guys all knew what I know
about data, you would not sleep at night. It's that terrifying. But we have a chance right now
in the next few years to demand standards for it. And a lot of people think, oh, we'll just let the
tech geniuses figure it out. No, the tech geniuses sometimes are egomaniacal, you know, lords in their own
world, as are many developers, right? We have to understand human nature if we're going to
understand how AI is going to impact human nature. And so there's much bigger consequences
to handing over your responsibility to someone else and thinking, oh, the tech wizards will figure it
out. I also want to call attention to this. In the 80s, the biggest companies in the entire
economy were banks. And then it turned into technology companies. What do you think they're
selling? What do you think they're making all that money on?
Uh-oh, I lost Robbie.
Did I lose everyone?
All right.
No, okay, I'm back. My mic i the button was unclickable for some reason
i i was like we're just having technical difficulties i was like that was so dramatic
christina wait if you know so banks, technology, technology, right? Well, the banks are understanding how to custody crypto now.
That's actually kind of what happened last year in August.
And there's a Puerto Rico bank in particular that I'm aware of that it has some really interesting software around tracking the actual transaction.
So if it comes in in crypto, it has to know, like,
did it come in? And was it immediately paid out? Does that go into AP, AR? And so,
Stephanie, I was thinking of you when I was hearing about this, because I know your finance
background. But right now in a wallet, as you're transacting with things, like,
taxes are not really your first and foremost, but for a big Fortune 500
enterprise, they absolutely would be. And so understanding how you can use these assets
is just as important as how do you train each one of the departments around the downstream impact
of taking on these assets. So the banking evolution is very high importance to understand what banks
understand these topics and what banks do not understand these topics.
I'm just going to start singing karaoke because I hate dead air.
I know we're having technical difficulties today,
but thank you guys so much for being here.
I really do look forward to answering all of your questions on,
on the next one.
Oh, good. Robbie's back.
Yeah, I'm back, I'm back.
I have no idea what is happening, but okay.
Thank you so much for everything, Kirsten, as well.
So I think it was a great space, honestly.
I think there's a lot to discover as well
between Continuum and Geek.
Myself, I'm not the biggest tech the biggest uh tech savvy person let's call it
um i i wasn't into data all these kind of things but like for next time i think it would be good
for uh stephanie to have her mic uh working again um so she can um so she can chime in as well uh
so she can chime in as well
when it comes to these topics, for example, right?
Because that's not my forte, let's say.
But I really want to thank you.
Oh, Wyskobis is a speaker now, suddenly.
Wyskobis, you have the right to speak.
I'm not sure if you still want to ask a question
or if you even hear me, I think so.
Yeah, can I hear you?
OK, great.
Hooray, we can hear you.
Hooray.
Yes, go ahead.
Go ahead with your question.
All right, thank you so much.
This is not actually a question, but a thank you message
to the Geek team.
And it has really been a nice time being here with the
geek um projects so today today i kept listening to today's data space i learned a lot about
um ai power marketplaces uh i also learned about the importance of data integrity and security
the importance of data integrity and security.
Though I've known it before now, but today,
I think I really got much value about this.
Thank you so much for always hosting
this amazing spaces every time here on Twitter.
To persons like me and others are here,
I so much believe we are actually learning a lot.
Thank you once again.
Thank you, Stephanie.
Thank you the entire
gig team and the audience are here on this call thank you thank you so much risk always as well for that uh okay thank you um for the comment as well like uh it's really important to us as well
and it's important like what um what christina said earlier as well, like sharing knowledge, right, within the community.
So that's what we tried to do as well.
We had so many spaces.
I think we started in January,
so that's been a while, every week.
So, yeah, it's great to share knowledge,
to have speakers with their own business,
what they're all about, you know.
And that way we learn a lot ourselves as well right
so it's an awesome thing
thank you so much for the comments
and thank you everyone for joining
again if you have questions
don't hesitate to
reach out you know we're very accessible
Christina I really want to
thank you as well and sorry for the
the the accessible. Christina, I really want to thank you as well. I'm sorry for the,
the, the,
sorry,
it's getting late here.
So my English isn't the best right now,
apparently,
but the difficult,
technical difficulties,
I'm sorry.
Let's hope for a next time that I won't,
won't happen anymore.
So thank you so much for sharing a continuum.
We're really excited to be a part of it,
your whole journey,
and get to that $1 billion valuation, right?
And so really looking forward to it.
And we'll stay in touch definitely,
as well with Stephanie.
And then I hope to see everyone from the community again next week
for the next week's spaces
hope you have a great morning afternoon evening uh talk to you uh talk to you soon everyone
thank you so much talk soon
