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Will Crypto & NFTs Surge 2025? FomoFM
Recorded: April 18, 2025 Duration: 1:33:01Space Recording
Short Summary
Crypto enthusiasts are buzzing about the potential for significant growth in the market by 2025, driven by increasing adoption, regulatory clarity, and a shift towards sustainable NFT projects. As discussions unfold, the community emphasizes the importance of building strong, engaged user bases and the need for realistic expectations in the evolving landscape.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Thank you. GM, GM, GM in the AM to all of our friends and DJs. Taking that time right behind my back And I'm talking to myself at night
Because I can't forget
Back and forth through my mind
Behind a cigarette
And I'm mad and told it from my eyes
She's a little bit of gold I need everybody to go down to that bottom blue pill, red pill, retweet the space right now if you haven't. And that ain't what you want to hear, but that's what I'll do
And the feeling coming from my soul, that's what I'm going to hold music Fabulous, right?
Yeah to everybody in the state. Fabuloso, right?
Yeah to everybody in the state.
I'm going to Wichita.
Far from this opera forevermore.
I'm going to wear the skull.
Make the sweat drip out of every pore.
All I ever wanted was a black grand national
Fuck being rational, give em what they asked for
It's not enough
Few solid niggas left, but it's not enough
Few biggys that are rich, but it's not enough
Say he's bigger than myself, but it's not enough
I get on they ass
Yeah, somebody gotta do it
I made them things mad
Yeah, somebody gotta do it I check the G- they ass Yeah, somebody got a do it I made his name mad Yeah, somebody got a do it
I take a G-Pack
Yeah, watch a nigga do it
Huh, we survived outside
All from the music, nigga
What?
They like, what he on?
This the Alpha and Omega, bitch
Welcome home
This is not a song
This is a revelation
How they get a nigga gone
I need you a man, baby
I don't understand, baby
Pay your bill and make you feel protected
Like I can, baby Teach you something If you need correction That's the plan, baby Don't push your life Go on. Yeah, somebody gotta do it. I mean these man. Yeah, nobody gotta do it. I see she
passed. Yeah, watch a nigga do it. Huh.
We survived outside off from the music nigga. What?
Hey, turn this TV off. Ain't with my type of activities then don't you get involved. Hey, what? Huh?
How many shit I seen? Send em all. Take a rest or take a check. You know I'm trippin' for my dog.
Who you with? Couple sergeants and lieutenants for they get back.
This revolution been televised. I fell through with the knickknacks.
Hey, young nigga, get your chili up. Yeah, I meant that.
A blackout if they act out. Yeah, I did that.
Hey, what's up, though? I hate a bitch that's hating on the bitch and they both hoes.
I hate a nigga hating on these niggas and they both broke.
If you ain't coming for no chili, what you come for?
Nigga feel like he's entitled because he knew me since a kid.
Bitch, I caught my Grammy office. She don't see it how I see it.
Got a big mouth, but he lacked big ideas. Send him to to the moon that's just how i feel yelling it's not enough
left but it's not enough but it's not enough say you bigger than myself but it's not enough
Take heat. I got a I'm already
Gotta run it and ride it for me. Where's honey? We got a retreat Straight from London
Let her shop and she keep the receipts. Don't you tell him you got it for me after this. I'm a new therapy
I've been building up my legacy
I You tell them you got it for me. After this, I'ma need therapy. I've been building up my legacy.
Hundreds of hundreds gon' fall.
I've been up stuff on somewhere, took it to stop.
And there's nowhere to go.
Yeah, I'm from the street.
They remember me, look, I'm a niche.
I'm a dog, won't deny it at all.
Now for real, keep your bitch on the leash.
Why you tryna keep with me?
No, you can't see me.
I go the hardest, and then I could repeat.
If it had started, they still ain't gon' beat me.
But there's some shit that they can't go on TV.
Pull up inside, I'm a Karen like B.B. I took a half of an E now I'm geeking.
Put her on camera, I'm never gonna leak it.
See that she classy, you see me don't speak to me.
Get her away from me, that's what she need.
Did he switch to Mercedes, sign out for a bar with V.
I pay him all that little fee, it don't bother me.
I'm on top of this shit cause I gotta be.
He never sleep, stretch 102 millions a week.
Got her running and riding for me.
We're at Sunny, we gotta retreat.
Trape from London, she out in the east. Let her shop and she keep the receipts. Don't you tell him you ride it for me. We're sunny. We gotta retreat. Straight from London, she out in the east.
Let her shop and she keep the receipts.
Don't you tell him you got it for me.
After this, I'ma need therapy.
I've been building up my legacy.
Hundreds of hundreds of folks.
I've been up for some words.
Took it to top, and there's nowhere to go.
Got your rings and they 40 apiece.
Gotta ride with a 40 at least.
You invited, she leaving with me.
What you pushing? There's levels to pee
I came out the soil, I got mud on my cleats Ever since running up, I got my money up
I keep up three of my bitches on fleek Always stay geeked if I ran into vampires
Then we get high off the shit that I bleep If a producer don't take off his tag
I'll do it myself and I'll remake the beat When I go shopping, I'll spin in a bag
It touch the floor when I hold up the receipt I been going ghost on my doors on suicide
Looking in the mirror like I really am that guy Fill my gang out in real life suicide
Hop off a jet to a check on a red eye
Roll up a split mix of gravel with degas
People still hitting and I still don't know why
Four pockets full put a molly in a cacti
Geek never sleep
Stretch a hundred two millions a week
Gotta runnin' and ride up for me
Where's honey we gotta retreat
Straight from London she out in the east
Let her shop and she keep the receipts
Don't you tell him you got it for me
After this I'ma need therapy I've been building up my legacy honey's and honey's before i've been
up so far somewhere stuck at the top and there's nowhere to go gm gm gm happy happy Friday to everybody that's tapping into this awesome space.
FOMO FM, will crypto and NFT surge in 2025?
It's a question that I get asked a million times throughout the bull cycle.
And I want to open the floor to you guys, the real avid collectors, investors, advocates,
founders, artists, NFT, degens, baby.
We got a lot in store today.
First off, fabulous Friday to everybody.
We finally made it to the end of the week.
So hopefully we can kick off the weekend and people can get some time to restore themselves, relax and refresh.
I always grind on the weekends.
Anybody that just fails to show up is a quitter.
And I don't see any quitters here today, baby.
Only real grinders.
So big shout out to everybody that made it out to the space.
Retweet it.
Tag a few people.
Today we're deep diving.
And I want to hear from the real crypto collectors and NFT collectors.
Are NFft surging
or uh are nfts flopping or is crypto gonna surge or is crypto gonna flop the rest of this cycle
let's say gmgm to my boy tack then we'll say what's up to mexy i see dabitola i see lots of
new faces jumping in mikey what up ultra smooth otis how you doing tack what up family
happy friday yeah baby how you feeling my guy good friday homie good friday yeah it's awesome man uh
i think crypto is gonna surge like you know shit goes up and down it's a scary time in the world
right now so of course it's not fucking booming and going crazy but if you look at the back end of things there's so many moves being made and so many more
countries and people and companies adopting crypto it's it's inevitable that it's just going to take
off and skyrocket sooner than later but how have you been my guy how's things going with you
i love the sentiment and i'm i'm 100 in agreements with you i think there's so many
signs and people are ignoring them right now uh they should be a lot more bullish than they already
are but i'm doing well man it was it was an awesome friday i got an opportunity to spend it
with some friends here in thailand uh go out to the beach eat some some good food. Just vibing out, man. I'm here locked and loaded.
I got a cup of coffee.
I got some Purple Kush, Purple Punch that I'm about to light up as well, too.
Oh, wait.
So I want to hear people's takes.
It's an exciting time.
Everybody has a different perspective on crypto.
Some people are calling this the top.
I think that there's far too many signs to ignore attack to call this
the top, man. There's just so much to look forward to. There's such a big catalyst that we're hearing
from. So this is definitely not the top. But maybe I'm completely wrong. And everybody that's,
you know, bearish right now is in fact, you know, on par with market sentiment. I don't know. That's
why I love having these
spaces my guy but everything's good on my end how's everybody back home how's uh toronto how's
the six treating you right now what's the vibe uh in canada man it's getting crazy it's very
political right now you know how things are going the debates just happened last night english
debates those were pretty good a little boring not as good as the American ones,
but there were some good, like,
zesty zingers in there. People were going
off. It wasn't too bad.
I don't know, man. Sediment's good.
It's just a scary time, but
everything's cooking. Everything's growing.
Spring is back. Landscaping's taking off.
Got a few new side hustles that I was working
on over the winter, and yeah, things are looking
great. Canada's doing good, man. I'm glad that you're in Thailand enjoying yourself.
That's awesome. Yo, I'm just chasing my dreams on the jet ski right now, baby. No, absolutely.
And it wouldn't be possible without crypto. I've always had a dream to live a digital nomad
lifestyle. And without crypto, like I said, you know,'d be uh back to my nine to five just like
everybody else but uh i'm happy for this cycle um i think that we're gonna see ultimate you know
new all-time highs in bitcoin and i think the rest of the market should follow i think we'll
see an alt season i personally feel that nfts are resurging and emerging with Doodle Gen X, our collection specifically,
we've been trending top 13, top 16. So we've been making some moves on the Ethereum blockchain
right now, which is really exciting and bullish. So stick around. I'm sure there's going to be
other people with takes guys. Come up and join the conversation. I see Phoenix Crypto. I see
Mexi up in the building as well let's
say gmgm to maxi then we'll say what's up to dabatola josh b bake everybody up in the space
guys if you haven't already please share it out we just got it popping off about five minutes ago
uh maxi how you feeling what up queen gmg GM, GM in the area? What up, GM, GM.
I'm feeling great. It's Friday.
Just happy the weekend's here.
You know, looking forward to 420.
I mean, it's always 420 for me, but you know what I mean.
So, yeah, I'm doing good.
And just to answer the question, yes, crypto and NFTs will surge in 2025.
The way I'm feeling right now, like if you guys don't remember, literally two years ago, Bitcoin was $29,000.
I don't understand how anybody could be crying at these price points because Bitcoin hasn't even hit what its potential really is, honestly.
And we have a long way to go.
There's just been a lot of market manipulation.
The tariffs have played a part as well.
I think we're looking for a catalyst here.
But it's nothing.
Again, I love fucking buying opportunities.
What are you guys doing? Like sacks of money
Go and load up every time you can on these dips
And you know stack your crypto like this isn't a time to be crying
You're gonna be like there's like that meme where it's like
If you ever see it, it's like bitcoin at 10,000 and there's like no line and then bitcoin at like a hundred thousand
And the lines like long as hell that's mad to me. So, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm feeling good. Always
bullish. Yeah. It's so stupid. It's, it is, but it's, it's the mentality behind it is
crazy because it's like, they don't trust a Bitcoin that's cheap, but then they'll go
full aped in at max price Bitcoin because everyone else is talking about it.
So, you know, like that's the mentality a lot of people in crypto still have.
And it's foolish because if they really were convicted and they understood the game, you got to know the game so you can't be played.
And if you do, you're not crying at any point on these dips or pullbacks or moving sideways.
You're just waiting for that accumulation and just waiting for the moment that we take off.
I love that take.
I also feel that people are very under position too.
There's a lot of people in crypto that have been here for like five years, three years,
four years, and don't even have $500 worth of
holding. So if that's you, you should definitely change that. Definitely change that. But no,
you're absolutely right. You know, it's funny that everybody wants the popular assets to rock
with the popular kids, be a part of the popular communities, all when things are expensive.
part of the popular communities all when things are expensive it's like they don't want to buy the
dips smart investors my overall goal is to get so wealthy this cycle that i can be financially
independent and uh you have to be active you have to be playing the market you have to be positioned
you gotta want to see it out or else it just doesn't happen but we got dabitola up in the building we got phoenix crypto up in the house let's say gmgm to our co-host guys the question
for everybody and i would love to hear your response in the comments or even if you guys
want to come up and share a hot take will crypto and nft surge in 2025 and if so why or why not
give us some sort of catalyst as you state your case.
But let's say GM, GM to the man, the myth, the legend.
Dabba, dabba, dude.
What's up, Dabba Tola?
GM, GM.
That's good.
I just got a coffee, getting the day going.
I think it's Friday, right?
I think so.
I don't know.
But another day full of, yeah, just grinding and getting things done.
You know?
Fuck yeah, man.
GM, GM, my brother.
It's literally Friday night here, and it sounds like a party all day.
This exact same tune has been going on
BOMB
BOMB
BOMB it's like some sort of water festival here in Thailand and I guess it's legal to be squirting people on
Motorbikes with super soakers today, but it lasts for another two days. It's madness and badness out here
so just trying to stay in the condo and just trying to stay focused on the market.
But Scott, I would love to hear your take, my brother.
I know that you've been involved in crypto for a long time.
You recently started getting involved in NFT communities and picking up some digital artwork and non-fungibles.
Will crypto and NFT surge this year in 2025?
Why or why not, guy love to love to pick
your brain uh yeah i uh i believe so i uh i mean that's why you know i'm in it i mean i actually
get it longer than that i'm in it for a long term like really long term but i think if anything you
know by the fall i think we'll have like a strong, like the strong end of the year.
I know people are really hopeful for like a huge, you know, breakout coming up between now and the end of May.
I mean, I understand some of the logic, but I don't know.
Until I see Bitcoin like clearly cross like 90K and approach 100, you know, I don't think think i don't think until like the fall we're really
going to see like the quote-unquote parabolic moves that we've been we've been uh all talking
about for you know the last couple years that would be coming as far as nfts uh surging i do
because i think community i think community is king i think community just is where you get all
your alpha that's where you know you make your connections, your interactions.
So I think based off of that, but I do think that it's going to be different than last cycle where it's not just going to be everyone and anyone launching some sort of art that people are just spending, you know, ridiculous money on.
I think the collections are going to clearly have to have strong communities um if
they are launching and provide value now whether that's going you know the rwa route or other
things but at least in the sense like you do doodles you do you know irl events and things so
i think there's gonna have to be some evolution to it but i do think it's i do think there's going to have to be some evolution to it. But I do think it's going to, you know, they're going to surge as well, just in a slightly transformed way in the last cycle, if that makes any sense.
Makes a lot of sense to me.
People are looking for value, utilities, and it's all really shifting as the technology continues to develop.
I got a few interesting catalysts as well as narratives that i think
that could pan out in 2025 but before i share that i do want to go around the room say what's
up to our co-host doing the most phoenix crypto want to say what's up to joshua want to say what's
up to bbake want to say what's up to all the homies and gals that joined this space guys please share
it out you can always unretweet it after the space is concluded or you want to clean up your timeline
Later on in the day or tomorrow, but for now if you're in the space that should be the only reason you know for you to retweet it
You know if you can't see have followers and homies see you in a space on the timeline and come and join in support
Then they're not even your real friends. They're not even, they shouldn't even be real followers.
Anyways, Queen Phoenix Crypto GM GM, I love you, Phoenix.
How you doing, Queen?
Fabuloso Friday.
What up, what up, what up?
Good morning, Doodle, Davatola, Mexie, Ted, everyone here. I'm doing amazing. I started my weekend early. I'm chilling. It's a sunny day in Brooklyn. And, you know, I know you're a wonderful day. I know it's at night there now, but I know you had another fabulous day in Thailand,
whether you were chasing or doing some networking or just enjoying the beach and the sun.
So it's always good to hear.
And I guess I will answer your questions.
Those are two big questions.
But I believe crypto will surge.
I believe NFTs will surge. In terms of crypto,
a lot of people gave a lot of great responses. I'm trying to think of something different to say,
but I think crypto might have a surge maybe because of XRP or Solana. They are both making
XRP or Solana, they are both making strides towards securing approval for their own spot
EFT. So both are competing to be the first across the regulatory finish line, so to speak.
The SEC, I think they acknowledged Solana's ETF application back in February, and XRP applied the same day. And a lot of factors contribute to XRP's excellent
position to win this regulatory race. I think the first advantage is legal clarity. Back in,
I think it was July 2023, that's when the New York District Court ruled that XRP is not inherently as a security. And secondly,
XRP is established, is highly liquid. It's a highly liquid coin with the fourth largest market
cap, I think, and probably around $142 billion. Last I checked, maybe things have changed since
the last time I was, you know, deeply researching it. And the third advantage is that XRP has a well-established,
well-developed ecosystem through XRP Ledger, where transactions can be executed at lightning speed.
So I think XRP is in a good position to be the next ETF, which will ultimately boost the price
of XRP, and they'll reach new all-time highs. And this could in turn boost crypto overall because of that.
And I guess with NFTs, I know we always think about NFTs in terms of utility,
but I like to look at NFTs from a strictly artistic perspective also.
And inherently, intrinsically, NFT is art. And art will always have a place in our lives. It's one of the last bastions of freedom of expression.
We've valued art, admired art, we've revered art since it was first etched on caves thousands of
years ago. And NFTs are just the next iteration of art.
It's a part of the evolution of art.
So why wouldn't NFTs secure a similar place in the ecosystem of art and essentially rise in visibility, rise in value?
So I think NFTs will surge as well this year. And just as we still look at
hieroglyphics and pyramids, and we marvel at the beauty and the invention, people 100 years from
now, they'll look at digital art, and they'll marvel at it and feel inspired by it and treasure
it. So I think we have that to think about when we think of NFTs too.
So it's not always just about the utility.
It's about art.
It's about culture.
And I think those are intrinsically valuable as well.
Oh, wait.
Phoenix, you are dropping the alpha on everyone's head top this morning
shout out to phoenix crypto real legend she gave you guys at least five reasons for both
when she talks like that about xrp it just does something to me phoenix We're XRP queens. I love it.
It's my favorite.
I love all chains, but XRP is probably my favorite.
It's how I got introduced into crypto.
So it always have a special place in my heart.
Everybody's first and NFT and meme or even NFT and coin and feel the same way.
No, you're absolutely right, Phoenix.
And I feel like you're absolutely locked in.
Your sentiment and your catalyst and your narratives are totally on point with this cycle
and what's been happening with the news, what's been happening with SEC,
what's been happening with an artist, you know, minting new pieces onto the blockchain.
So I think she's she's definitely
on point i'm going around the room guys gmgm to everybody share it out we want to hear from you
guys true founders true collectors true investors advocates and also too i want to stay my case i
think that this is totally a different bull market than we've seen from traditional bull markets. So institutional adoption and mainstream mainstream financial integration is huge.
That's like Fidelity, BlackRock, the JP Morgan's Chase, more and more financial institutions
are making it a lot easier and more more acceptable second thing is obviously you
know regulation and and legislation is just totally different the way that they're regulating crypto
I feel like they're a lot more friendlier and it's not only in the US I feel like it's globally now
as well too there's a lot of different governments political candidates that are all kind of
changing the laws in their own specific regions donald trump is extremely bullish on bitcoin as
well people haven't mentioned it but i also look at the overall volume and i think that we've seen
some of the all-time high uh all-time high volume in some of the stablecoins.
This is like USDT and USDC.
And the market cap for stablecoins, I believe, is like over $150 billion, which is huge.
And that just means people are using it as an off-ramp or an on-ramp to get involved into the market.
Not everybody wants to hold Bitcoin or solana xrp or meme coins
and have the volatility and for nfts i feel like what scott said and what phoenix said is absolutely
on par there's different utilities that are being expanded on in the nft community
i still think that the metaverse will come at some point i just don't think it's going to be this cycle
the layer twos make it really efficient and very cost effective to actually mint and sell and trade nfts and then now more than ever are we seeing like protocols chains uh emvs layer ones layer
twos all kind of connect and work together so the interoperability is just through the roof this cycle I've never seen it as liquid as it has been in 2025. those are a
few reasons why I think that we can surge obviously the global economic impact of crypto it's faster
cheaper and more decentralized as a as a global currency and a store of value to use than any
other financial institution uh that currently exists including paypal cash app zell anything
in between so i just feel like we have a lot of a lot of narratives a lot of bullish sediment
and what what are the haters and people that just are totally against crypto say
you're all crazy it's a scam that's all they can that's all they can clutch onto
is a scam do you know how many time i've heard that in trading crypto that crypto is a scam
some of them are yes you're absolutely correct but not all of them are so find the right ones
find the right communities and uh ape into them and
make some money make some bags but that's all i got to say i want to say what's up to josh
then i want to say what's up to marianne say what's up to bob baker josh how you doing brother
what's your take will crypto and nft surge in 2025 how you feeling this morning brother
How you feeling this morning, brother?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm doing great.
I'm doing GM to you guys.
GM to Phoenix to Tabatola.
And yeah.
GM to everyone on the speaker section.
And down there, the listener section.
GM to you guys.
Yeah, my take on this.
The crypto and NFC Sword Chain 25.
Yeah, I'm kind of feeling, feeling, feeling, feeling, really, really.
Hold up.
Josh, you sound very muffled. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold up, Josh.
You sound very muffled.
Yeah.
Can you come closer to your mic?
Can you hear me right now?
I can hear you, but you sound like you're mumbling into a sock.
Oh, my God.
I think it's my foot.
Can you hear me now?
Yes.
A little bit better. Okay, pretty good.
Okay, okay, nice. Yeah yeah i was just kind of getting everyone and and talking about my take on the topic i hope i'm still ordered to do
yeah we can hear you brother go ahead give us a give us a take do you think crypto is going to go
up you think it's going to go down you think nft popularity is surge you think it's going to go down you think nft popularity is surged you think it's going to fall off
no no no i actually think it's going to be i'm going to pretty much go go up in 2025 because um
um there's already going there's an eye for nfc's um the recent weeks i mean um i've seen i've seen more more more and more nfc stocks on my timeline these days i mean a few i feel it's going to kind
of sort of 25 and also in 2006 there's going to be massive massive massive massive surge in it because i mean these are 100
percent a social game as much as they are yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly and a lot of
people are being bullish on nfc these days because i mean more more more people want to come into the
nfc market and see what's going on there what's going on there and you know with that i mean i mean it's going to be more more more more more bullish i mean you feel
me i feel you i definitely feel you yeah the hype is real man it's a real it's a real fact
yeah well listen man keep on buying keep on positioning and i wish you well this bull market
let's say what's up to marianne marianne gmgm it's been a minute welcome back
how you feeling sending you some friday vibes will crypto and nft surge 2025
good morning doodle it's been a minute honestly been a fucking minute homie how you been
it's been it's been a long time i've been i've been doing amazing honestly i've been pretty
focused on one very very very specific niche in web3 so i've been a bit disconnected from
uh social media on other aspects of crypto but I've been following up for a long
time and honestly I definitely feel like crypto might definitely have a surge in
2025 NFTs I don't know it depends on what will happen with gaming because I'm
an NFT maxi I love NFTs it's what me into Web3, but it's not there yet.
You know, people are maturing. The space is maturing.
I don't think that IP plays are hitting the way that people are expecting them to hit.
The best NFTs that are really like actually getting a lot of value are those that are gaming related, at least for now.
And the IP NFTs that are really like hitting a lot and going like super popular
are the 2021 blue chips. However, I feel like there's something that people always neglect,
which is your NFT project doesn't need to be worldwide to be successful. You can have a
small community of believers and have a product related to the NFT
and actually provide value. And you can have a very successful company that generates revenue
with a small, tight-knit community, which is what initially communities are meant to be.
Communities initially are just a group of people that really believe in something very, very
hardcore. And so the tighter the community is, the better and the more the more the believers. So, yeah, I think I think we're going to need to focus on that aspect a little bit more.
And yeah, honestly, this is my very raw and honest thoughts. I know a lot of people might
disagree, but that's what we've been saying, to be honest. I like to take extremely bullish on gaming and web three and happy that you found a niche that
you really are excited and passionate about. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
People try to cover everything in their streams and their spaces and they really don't have a
niche and it just it gets dull and gets boring you know so I think gaming is very
concentrated on kind of building an ecosystem kind of building up characters or assets within those
games and in essence it's almost like a currency in itself and I think NFTs could be very valuable
for the industry I'm also waiting on the whole gta using crypto i think
that's gonna like catapult a lot a lot of more mainstream games into crypto and then we'll see
huge uh user base increase but i like your take uh marianne i think nfts are are surging i think
for different reasons i think that the the use case for them are changing.
We're seeing a lot of RWAs and D-Pin NFTs now that just holding these limited share JPEGs or collectibles is paying some sort of dividends or is broken into the business model.
I think that regulation has changed a lot around it.
I think Trump is pretty bullish about NFTs and crypto just overall.
So I just feel like the art is never going to die, like Phoenix said.
But I absolutely agree.
It's just not there yet.
We need more celebrity.
We need more mainstream coverage.
We need them to be a more trusted asset and not a more speculative or volatile asset.
But there's 404s.'s there's new developments and liquidity as a developer and just a collector that loves
art and loves non-fungibles i think that we still have a lot a long way to go but it's a bullish
bullish cycle for us back to you i just want to follow up with one last thing and then i don't want to take much
off other people's time but i think there's something that we're overlooking still which
is that sometimes the nft model on its own when it comes to artists it's perfect but when it comes
to like the generative collections or the people who want to build a business i genuinely don't
feel like it's sustainable because you're literally,
it's like almost a low ticket that you buy one time. And then when you buy this thing one time, literally, like let's say you're paying a hundred dollars,
you start having lifetime expectations from that team just because you paid a hundred dollars one
time. And that is genuinely not sustainable because you, I mean, no, no successful business
in the world sells you something one time and then you keep on expecting more and more and more and
more and more and more for them for your entire life. I genuinely don't think this is sustainable.
I've been, I've been saying to like my closest people, I think, um, some monthly or quarterly
or whatever, something that's a little bit more recurrent would genuinely
be more sustainable than just paying for something one time and then being a little i know i've got a
little bit of hate for that but we become entitled when we buy an nft and then three years later
we're like why didn't you give me a million dollars yet i mean i don't know this is just my take
tell those people to stop giving a fuck so much you're never gonna get rich
off of nfts unless you just aped in and bought board apes super early or you own tons of punks
super early like it's literally almost near impossible these days to get rich just off of
nfts i haven't heard one person in this last cycle said i I got rich off of NFTs. Maybe a meme coin, but absolutely agree with you.
I don't think that it's a sustainable model to sell people one time and then have a lifetime expectancy of any sorts of reoccurrence of value.
Unless it's just totally digital.
Because then after, if it's like a tool or something, it's possible.
But I agree with you.
And that's why we're seeing a shift. Right now, I feel like a tool or something it's possible but i agree with you and and that's
why we're seeing a shift right now i feel like people are are shifting into it like there's uh
this nft called big red and they own racehorses out in new york and every time they win they
reward like their holders with like a little dividend in like a token and they can swap that
out for eath so like there's there's cool ways that it's evolving.
I honestly feel that this is going to be Bitcoin's big cycle.
I think Bitcoin at the high we can see 150k and at the low we can go back down to like 52k.
But I don't think that the market is heading in that direction personally.
I want to hear from all the rest of the OGs up in the space.
We got Baked in the building. What up of the OGs up in the space we got but baked in the
building what up brother GM GM in the AM give us a hot take will crypto and nft surge in 2025
he's baked he should be dub Well, no engagement farming here, my friend.
Sorry. Sorry, not sorry.
It just happens to go like that sometimes.
If you're a real one, come up.
You know, share your comments.
Somebody asking, what's the alpha?
Are you not listening to the space phoenix dropping
alpha dabitola dropping alpha mexy marianne everybody tack even dropping alpha up here
this guy just woke up he's still in bed he's sleeping he's sleeping there's no sleeping in
crypto slap him in his face. Shake him up.
You can't sleep in.
You can't sleep in on Doodle Genics.
Do you hear the music in the background?
It's like 7.30 in the nighttime here in Thailand.
Bop.
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Like, it's a fucking party, man.
We're getting the morning started off right.
Let's go.
We need to hear from my man.
Ruppis.
Ruppig.
Rubik's.
Rubik's, bro.
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I was close.
I'm the word with names.
No problem, dude.
How are you, my guy?
GM, GM in the AM.
Give us a hot take.
Will crypto and NFT surge in 2025?
What's your sentiment and why?
Yeah, well, when it comes to the broader market, I mainly look at Bitcoin, obviously.
And I really do think that at any moment, one of these big countries might just put out, you know, that they're going to buy for their reserves.
And I think that would change the tides completely.
I also don't think the
market is pricing this in. I think a lot of people are overly fearful here, despite the potential for
this to happen. Now, I know with someone like the US, it might take a while for them to, you know,
put in the laws and the regulations to ensure that they actually buy Bitcoin. But I think we're making progress towards that.
And yeah, when it comes to NFTs,
I think a lot of people have had enough with meme coins, right?
This is a meme coin cycle,
but I definitely think it's possible
for people to now rotate to NFTs
and find fun elsewhere apart from meme coins.
And we've actually seen the US government say that meme coins and NFTs are digital collectibles. But from my perspective, I would say NFTs are
more like digital collectibles than meme coins. And I think that narrative will fly more.
So I think as time goes on, I definitely think we can see some more rotation to nfts
but i also think it depends on the broader market you know bitcoin does happen to enter
into a bear market then yeah it might take a while for that to happen
dude i was here in the fucking bear market just buying up nfts like they were going out of style
my guy i swear to god like you're like oh
bell-bottom jeans yo that's just out of style nfts went out of style and i just i just copped
a boatload of them i'm like yo that looks like a a wreck on open sea you know what i'm gonna buy a
boatload of those and guess what some of them they're worth something. Some of them, they ain't worth shit.
Yeah, well, I mean, when it comes to anything.
But I still like the art. I still like the art. Whether they just took off and they gave up on themselves, I own the art, so I'm still pretty bullish on that.
Yeah, I mean, when it comes to anything in crypto, you do want to be buying one. Everyone is fearful. So, you know,
give it time, let your thesis play out. It's probably going to go crazy if you know your
thesis is correct. And I mean, I think we saw that a great example recently was the basis for
everyone meme coin. Like everyone was panicking and it had that huge crash and everyone was saying
it rugged and it was max pain. And I was like, bro, it would be such a good buy here.
I actually didn't buy it and have funds on base.
But it was such a good moment, such a good case study of buying something with a decent narrative when everyone's fearful.
And I think that's what you got to do to succeed in the crypto space.
So, yeah, probably a good thing that you bought those during the bear.
Absolutely. Marianne, what's up?
You know, listening to that, it just made me want to say something. Maybe it's a little bit
far from what people expect other people to say in this space but even if even if crypto doesn't
surge and even if nfts don't surge and even if we don't have this they're huge um pump or whatever
we're waiting for you can make a lot of money still in web3 just by having the right skill set
if you like genuinely because thinking this way will make you more patient.
And it will make you do less stupid.
Make less stupid decisions.
Because you're patient.
Because you're able to make money on a monthly basis.
Without really just waiting on a coin to pump or an NFT to pump.
And so you'll have less bitter energy.
And your energy will become way better.
So a lot of cool skills you can learn.
Just focus on one of them. Go all in. Master it. It'll take you like a week or two to genuinely start
understanding what's the right skill for you because you definitely have some. It's impossible
you're in Web3. You're this deep. You understand this much that we're talking about if you don't
have skills more than the average person because it's very hard to be in this space. It's very
hard to understand this space. You definitely know how to write.
You definitely know how to speak, how to calculate, how to do anything.
So just double down, ask some questions.
And I promise you, if you double down on that, you'll be able to make at least $1,000 or $2,000
a month in the cruelest of the bear markets, genuinely.
So this is definitely a topic for another day, but I just wanted to remind people that this is definitely topic for another day but i just
wanted to remind people that this is definitely a possibility that sometimes is overlooked
oh absolutely i think that personal development being somebody able to analyze the market and
adapt and maneuver through it graciously is huge in a winning strategy and it doesn't always have
to be holding coins or taking
FOMO plays like Marianne said being a little bit more patient and having skills you can fall back
on I think is definitely definitely important also finding your niche or niche however you say
let's say what's up to my guy Hutch let's say what's up to Jambus or Jams.
Hutch, how you doing?
Yo, GM, GM, what's going on guys?
I'm grateful to be here.
Guys, stay on point.
Will crypto and NFTs surge in 2020?
Sure.
Good to have you up here.
I got it.
So I got a hot take for you.
Absolutely.
So I think we have huge catalysts to the upside
and to the downside. And I think to really see the blow off the top surge, we have to see things get
worse before they get better. I think we are all subject to this macro environment that we're in right now. I think any news, we are so sensitive
to any trade news updates. Xi Jinping says one thing to soften tariff and trade relations for
the US market surge. If tariffs and trade become tense over, I think we have about 82 days left before this tariff pause.
I do think things could also get worse, but I think the biggest thing we got to keep in mind
here is timeline. When we look at just the volatility that's in the market, I mean,
regardless of what you think of the U.s administration we are so short-term
focused on over indexing to does this work does this not work where we are in the crypto cycle
with the regulatory softening in the u.s with all the sec cases that we've seen just be dropped
one after another against ripple against, against Gemini, against all
these massive entities. Crypto is set to take off. I do think we see a massive surge, but I think it
comes at the very tail end of 2025. And I also want to comment on one more thing that you and Marianne were talking about earlier.
This idea about expectations about NFTs is something that the creator needs to control the narrative around.
I've been in NFTs since 2017, and there's nothing more devastating to a project than when their community starts chanting,
when roadmap, what's going on with the roadmap?
What else are you building?
You could literally drop a dope NFT collection and just say, there's no roadmap.
There's nothing ever coming.
Love the art or hate it.
And I think that expectation would just control the narrative from the get-go.
And it's so much about fudding and narratives and all of that. I mean, obviously I've got a
Pudgy PFP, so I'm super bullish on Pudgy. And I think Luca and team have done a great job, but
they continue to build. I don't think that go-to-market strategy is realistic for most NFT projects.
Most don't have the resources, but when I look at abstract, there are some diamonds in the rough,
and your most expensive NFT right now is like 0.4 ETH. So what we saw was a super inflated 2021-2022 cycle that these no-name nft projects were 2e3e5e
that world's over i think that was a speculative hype that value got out in front of just the
market and where it was but i believe the market is here now and you're going
to see projects that do exceed expectations. But I think for some of these newer projects,
a five eighth or a seven eighth or a nine, 10 eighth ceiling is still incredible for where you
start. Uh, I don't know that we're going to see the Board 8 blow the top off, NFT surge like
we did before, but I still think there are 100Xs out there for a lot of these early stage projects.
And I do think we're going to see Bitcoin well above 200. I think we're going to see Seoul well above 250. End of 25.
26, though, I think is going to be the absolute melt your face.
And so I think now is the time to take the Warren Buffett approach and buy great companies that are undervalued.
Your shit coins are knocking a thousand.
Are you bullish on Solana or bearish?
It hit 290.
Super bullish.
It hit 290 when Trump did his fucking meme token.
You only gave us 250 and fucking Bitcoin's at 250,000 or 200K.
Come on.
Send it higher.
Dude, I will tell you this, homie.
I am super bullish on it.
I am perpetrating it every single day,
making a couple thousand bucks a day on the volatility.
I don't got much.
I wouldn't say I don't got a little, but I don't got much.
I'm always willing to pick up under 115, 110,
and just do the ultimate swing trade to like 220, 200.
At 200, I'm going to clip a big bag i got solana above a
thousand in 2026. okay that's the i like to hear all-time high i'll give you
another opportunity all-time high on solana 200 doesn't cut it for me you know 250 is not good
enough when you say all-time high over what timeline are you talking my man this cycle 2025 all-time
high for solano so i don't think 2025 is this cycle i think let me make one comment that i
think really changed the landscape i think the q1 q2 blow the top off surge we were expecting is getting pushed out.
And I think it's going to be late 25, 2026.
But I'll go on record and say Solana above 500 and big hairy audacious Solana above 2500. do you hear the fucking beats in the background it's a party bro
love it g
dude it's a freaking party davitola solana hits
what my man said hutch what would you do bro
at 2500 yeah i'd be chilling that's for sure i'll be like just pissed off at all the solana
i gave away and all those like 0.3 soul NFTs I gave away at like 23
I mean 23
probably been picking up Solana for like a good
two years
you know like I mean look at even
when it was down like that one time like
before this drop like
six eight months ago or whatever it was where it hit
hit like 110
I just happened to catch
that low part there and just scooped up a whole bunch.
But, you know, we're down kind of low again.
And, you know, anything over like 300
is going to be just fucking really, really awesome.
So it was nice to see it tease that
when we got close to it at like the 290.
But I think that's just a tease do you know how much
over
how much what we're at 0.01 and we're almost at 0.3 right now 0.03
what's that that's pretty good
come on that's 300 you know i hear that beat i'm so jealous i wish i was there
it's i'm not jealous they throw like dirty water at you with mud
and there's people that just are using cold water and their water guns on purpose just to
freeze your ass but it's so fucking hot that's the only reason why i was about to get off the
bike today and the guy's like looking at me and he wants to squirm me i'm like you fucking guy
you squirm me i'm getting off this bike you should get a water gun and just fill it with extremely
hot water someone you gave him the crazy eyes?
You gave him the crazy eyes?
Yeah, I gave him the crazy eyes through the face guard mask helmet.
I had the shield on closed.
So if it hits my face, it doesn't hit my actual face.
It just hits the helmet and drips down.
I got lucky today, but i got absolutely soaked you
can't go anywhere right now without getting soaked it's a huge thing i would say the asian name of
the the festival but it wouldn't even matter it wouldn't make sense anyways
i don't even want to try but anyways let's say what's up to gmabs what's up, what's up, baby? What's your take on that? G Mabs, what's up, guys?
Thank you for taking me.
Speaker, abs, abs, abs.
All right, guys, very good takes, everyone.
Dabs, dabs, dabs.
First off, do you dab G Mabs?
I dab?
Do you dab?
Sometimes.
Sometimes.
Well, you're the presence of greatness.
It's called
Your Highness Dabatola.
He dabs out of a
golden AK. I don't even know how
he got that. That's not even real.
That's the way.
Brutal and hard.
It's a good idea. I should top off or re-up my mind right now i'll be right back what's your take on it uh gmaps guys very good takes
literally everyone speaking from someone that's been in the space for more than five six years
same as like you guys we always tend to sometimes look in
the short term however we all know that on the long term everything like this tech that's been
that's been in for like 13 years starting from bitcoin 15 whatever the years and this innovation
is here to stay is here to last and as much as we grow in this in this ecosystem as much as we grow in this ecosystem, as much as we grow in crypto, we'll see it unfolding more and more and more.
And hence where we are, we position ourselves, we try to find the new things going.
Hence how I got to abstract, you know, the small developments that are getting the space and the base coins to grow bigger and bigger.
We're still very new to this. the space and the base coins to grow bigger and bigger.
We're still very new to this.
We still didn't reach the adoption that we all of us think. Like the end goal for crypto is reaching adoption.
Like we always say that when our grandma or our parents are using crypto without them
knowing, we still didn't get there.
So if we think in this matter and this time frame,
like whatever it is, five, ten years maybe, not this cycle,
we're all bullish on this cycle.
We all know that every cycle comes with a very big swing down.
Whatever it is, the last one was COVID.
Before it was a crash.
Now it's Trump.
Every cycle, like we witness a 60-70% downtrend.
And then after it, like the markets pick back up.
Besides, if that happens or not, we know that we're still early on this.
And we still got so much things in the bag for crypto, you know,
other than just like the price action, which are because uh we are every day in crypto like we
tend to see like today like i'm a i'm a solana guy i know like literally the price of solana since
like like one year ago every day every day the change in price action you know this is how much
we're we're we're exposed to this however i still believe that the cycle will go full force again. I agree
with the timeline that that that Hodge said, like the end of 2025, start of 2026. But at the end of
the day, it's just speculation. We know that we won't never, never ever time the markets not on the bottoms not on the on the ups as well but we're
still in it we're still in it that's the goal us people that that are every day like working in
crypto and investing in crypto like like we love we love the down the down market same as we love
the times when when when the markets are are peak volatility, peak euphoria and everything.
It gives us time to stay in there, build, connect with everyone, be able to talk.
I know if we were at peak prices now, we wouldn't be able to be all of us in here, spreading this mindset and all of that.
We would have been, everyone of us, putting the work that's needed to be done,
either trading, either working on a project,
either like expanding on things and all of that.
Now this is our time to build more and stuff like that.
This is for the market.
Concerning NFTs, NFTs, like, at the end of the day,
NFTs, NFTs, like, at the end of the day, NFTs are tech.
NFTs are tech.
It's every, because we're in a still early, early age for crypto,
every new piece of tech, we attach some kind of speculation to it.
And this kind of speculation leads us to invest in it,
like, and try to make money out of it.
But at the end of the day, as well, the goal of this tech
is not to enrich, to just enrich the people, you know, and like the expectation of like making 100x, 10x, whatever.
And knowing that I'm a deep, deep, deep, deep shitcoin guy, you know, I do it as a living.
But the thing is, the thing is that this is tech at the end of the day that's novel and people liked it for a fact.
And this thing, we can't change it.
How I see NFTs going and they started, it's not like it's a prediction, but it's going more towards the traditional and going towards DeFi.
Like if you see, for for example the case of pandan
bundle they are using nfts for borrowing lending and stuff like that if you want to repay your loan
you know to facilitate these these web3 stuff what three web three mathematical things that we that
we that we as well are rallying behind them because we are in crypto because we want to remove the middleman and we
we want us directly to have the directly relation with whatever it is either nfts through the
creators directly the creator and the community either through defy the lender and borrower
you know so this is kind of this is kind of shifting the market i'll just go on board like
500 000 type people right now at that party
that street i'll just be like y'all need an nft you know i'll just send them to open c
i'll like scan the back of my shirt it's a qr code to open c just open c i'll just drop them off
there a hundred a hundred percent like like where you can see it going is like more to web 2 and like the people starting like the normal people starting to adopt it.
You see a lot of tickets going like you see a lot of talks about tokenizing houses, tokenizing cars, tokenizing whatever.
This is going to happen through the technology of NFTs, not neglecting the part.
It's already here.
It's already here.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm not predicting you know i'm
just stating what's what's happening in there and as well the creators where this is a place for
them like like to be able to share their art like share their creations without being gay keeped
without being like like like removing a lot of things from them you know that their basic stuff
that we started rallying behind and we started rallying
behind nfts like four three four years ago because of these factors and these factors
still didn't go anywhere the speculation went the speculation because now like the new
shiny thing and the new attention thing is is meme coins you know but you know like i see nfts like being part of our lives and being part of
like more of the serious stuff now which they already are again i'm not predicting like what
what's gonna happen i'm just stating the state of it and from there it gives a lot of opportunities
like for people for for the people that know the nfts or that want to use them give them
opportunities either to make their life easier or either to make to make to to make the book
through through like no you bring up some really valid points brother and i love that you haven't
just have been here for this cycle or to see this pump but you've been here for like you said five years
four years and you've seen multiple cycles which is important to seeing the overall landscape of
crypto evolve the use case evolve i think it's gotten faster cheaper more interoperable i think
uh more people are collaborating now i gotta i gotta i gotta speak to the co-host up here and come to some sort of consensus.
And we've been asking the same question to everybody up here on this space.
We're pulling up some more amazing people.
But I just want to touch base with Phoenix and Dabatola and see what they think.
Phoenix, we heard first some great takes.
Has anything changed in your opinion has anything
that somebody mentioned uh really resonated with yourself
this beat is too good it's too good it's the best beat I've ever fucking heard.
And everybody's just partying like they're in zombie mode.
Phoenix, what do you think?
Sorry to interrupt.
Come to the party.
Oh, no worries.
Everyone has been giving some remarkable, refreshing takes on cryptocurrency.
And it hasn't changed my mind about cryptocurrency or NFT surging.
And I was looking for her.
What was her name?
Marianne, was it?
Is she still here?
She gave an interest.
She made a compelling point that I think was very valuable to the conversation when she talked about NFTs and founders and people having these high or
unsustainable expectations about what NFTs and utility mean and how it can somehow become this
revolving door of expectation that you can't sustain. And I think you do a great job of this. And what I think founders
of NFT projects can do from the very beginning is not to promise the moon and this constant
gratification, instant gratification of communities, because it is unsustainable. If you present something that's manageable,
that's deliverable, then people will have managed expectations. They won't come to you every two
months saying, well, what have you done for me lately? What's going on? When is this going to
happen? When is that going to happen? If founders do a better job of creating a reasonable roadmap, then expectations will be managed in a reasonable't be a lot of doubt because the founder will have put in
place from the very beginning what to expect and how things will move from the beginning.
And you've done an incredible job of doing that as a founder. And I think if other founders
followed that same blueprint, then it will cut down on a lot of the disappointments and the FUD and the anger when
people come to NMT's thinking they're going to have ponies and rainbows every three months
instead of just something reasonable and manageable. So I think that was a great point that she made.
I think that was a great point that she made.
Facts. Facts. Absolutely.
You can't buy a $40 action figure or a $50 piece of art and expect the world to come out of it.
You know, the same Pablo Picasso, same Michelangelo.
But there are some great utilities that come with owning a doodogenic and plenty of other NFTs.
And price only comes second to the
value so if you value what you're buying then sometimes price is really irrelevant
dabatola what do you what's your whole take we heard from some great people coming up
uh love to hear your consensus on this i think uh one thing that gmaps is saying was about speculation and i've been saying this a
lot recently that i feel like we're we're moving you know more from speculation driven to revenue
at least you know where we're going with the cycle now so you can only get so far with that kind of
initial hyper speculation like people like your project's going to actually have to make money you know there's
going to have to be some sort of transactional value going on at some point or uh how is it
going to create value or you know it just there's it's a business essentially you know so um you
know people can only buy in on the hype for
so long. And I think that's just been exhausted. Memes coins, exhausted it, uh, NFTs last cycle
exhausted it. And so now it's just going to be like, all right, less speculation, more in proven
and more in revenue. So I think that's, uh, that's going to be a huge shift. And I think we're already seeing it
because, you know, in a lot of alts that have dropped to really low value, it's, it's because
of that. I mean, you need to, you know, like, what are you going to do? Like, you know, make a
hundred bucks, but like your market cap is, is, you know, 8 billion, like, you know, like,
is, you know, 8 billion, like, you know, like, I mean, just think about like on, on straight
business. So, and, and the thing with moving, you know, even with a lot of this stuff where
NFTs or tokens or whatnot are moving towards like RWA, you're going to have businesses that are
worth and, and assets worth value to us that we're transaction in dollars or whatever your local currency is
right now, like everyday goods or items. And then you're going to put those on the blockchain. Like
that's going to, that's going to put a whole nother sector, a whole nother series of value
and business adding to our, our space. So then all the, that's actual revenue, that's actual
dollar. There's value there. Right. So now that's going to stack's actual dollar there's value there right so now that's
going to stack up against some other which is just going to be a bunch of hot air
no that hot air is just going to deflate like a lot sooner than before so i think there's more
value coming into space and you're going to have to prove that and you know for community stuff
i think the best way to do that is you know there's there's certain aspect it's not
all about money like i think nfts proved a little bit more on the community side like of course you
want value but if there's art and there's a community behind it that's something that you
have forever it's like you know anything any kind of thing that i've hung up on the wall
so you got to understand sort of the difference in in where you're going or what you're getting involved I feel like those meme projects and alts and anything with utility definitely has to show
revenue where you can get away more with community and aspect on the nfts and even a little bit on
the memes to a certain degree I think it holds Sorry, I'm just sort of rambling here.
It's early and I'm struggling with my coffee.
Can I jump in on that?
There were some good points there I'd love to comment on.
Wait, I want to go to everybody real quick, Hutch.
But no, Scott, like what you said, everybody's making some valid points here.
That's the point of the discussion you know it's to get
some different hot takes in there I want to say what's up uh first to Joe Joe back then AZ and
then after Rick start and then after Hutch we'll send it back to you my guy Joe back what up GM GM GM in the AM. Hey, do do GM is
job.
Not too bad.
Sorry.
How do I say
you said,
you said job.
So he's job.
Gotcha.
Yes.
Job.
Gotcha.
GM Phoenix.
GM GMO.
Rickstar.
GM to all the speakers and all the listeners.
Okay, so sorry I tuned in late. I was quite busy in real life.
Okay, well, I've had a couple of great insights about the topic and about NFT and all that.
Okay, I think my one sense on this is i've when i when i got into web 3 that was 2021 i've i got in through meme coins and spot trading well after like a i was majored
in nfts and community management so i think in 2022 the the surge was there that was when there was um um what do you call that
yeah yeah the a body yes bodies and all that so glory
sorry about that okay so what what what what i think will bring back the surge in NFT is the founders.
Most times, because when I was working with projects in the past, that's NFT projects,
what made their utility more stable and believable by the community was they were able to set achievable utilities and roadmaps.
You know, of recent, NFT projects have come up with utilities that are, would I say, very, very mind-blowing, you know.
But if you look at it on another side, it looks impossible, like difficult to achieve. achieved so while we're bringing the surge in nft and crypto because meme coins and the gen has
has ruined it for for like for this 205 we started off very bad with the trump
coin and those celebrity methods so what we bring back nft surge is the achievable utilities if
founders are able to um bring bring their nfts and give us utilities that
we see that okay when we mint your nft within a couple of months six months we are seeing the
the utilities we are seeing everything happening not and you know most of times communities hold
the flop right off of a of an nfc which second after value. So when we see the value
of your NFT, it's the utilities that will make us, okay, say, okay, we want to make this reserved.
If it's reserved, the value will increase, that's the price will increase, the floor price will
increase. So the basic thing here is achievable utilities. If these utilities are achievable,
it's not coming to say, okay, we're going is not coming to say okay we're going to
give you reward assets we're going to distribute this to shoot with that and in a year and one year
and six months we're not seeing that in reality it's going to like diminish the whole nft concept
and all that so if we found if we found us communities can and, because it boils down to everybody.
If we all work together, founders,
you know, a founder can put in the work,
give you utilities,
and then the community is just acting
out, listing for lower price, below
mint price. So you see, it all boils down
to everybody's like a group work.
If the founders,
the community can come together, the surge
will be very massive. And it looks like it's coming very soon. like a group work if if the founders the community can come together so very
thank you thank you so sorry for taking too much no no no you're never talking
too much I appreciate everybody's perspective and opinion and I think you
gave a great one so I just want to give you some credit and shout out to all the
amazing women out here shout the Phoenix script over holding it down to all the amazing women out here. Shout out to Phoenix Crypto for holding it down. For all the women as well too, being a co-host.
I'm just happy that we can have a diverse panel up here.
And it's unbiased, you know, just like crypto is.
Decentralized, you know.
Not centralized.
So, Crypto and NFTs 2025.
We've been hearing some hot takes from so many different people guys uh hit the
request this is the last few takes that we're gonna get and we're gonna come back tomorrow
with the follow-up show we're gonna have a super share space and everybody will get up here to give
us an update of what they're building what they're creating whether it's art whether it's an rwa
whether it's a dy project whether they're
just here to smoke some dank here with us uh but i do want to get to the speakers that we do have
on the panel because i really respect everybody's time uh let's go to my man az then moon let's get
to everybody real quick az give us a hot take crypto nfts will they surge in 2025 gmgm my friend how you feeling bro yeah and i'm
feeling good man um yeah of course they're every i believe strongly man they're gonna surge and
what's gonna help it what's gonna help it is just getting great artists onto our chains and getting
great art so whether it's famous artists they've got some clout they can bring over their their communities people that they've worked with whether it be celebs or other maybe
influential people in their spaces and that's that's all going to add to to the value of nfts
and hopefully propel this um this surge um going forward in the future so yeah i'm i'm i'm really
bullish about it and it's great to come across you guys and
just hear you just relaxing chilling just talking about it you know i got lost in the party bro
yeah it's a thick crowd up here bro and what i wanted to say i don't know you guys if you guys are mainly on you i'll take it you're on ethereum solana both both yeah but what about xrp what about the xrp ledger we've got some serious
artists there yeah we got people like phoenix and maxi and all sorts of people that are really
bullish on xrp people collect on xrp mean coins on XRP. Yeah.
XRPL is good, man.
Keep coming back to these spaces, AZ.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nice to connect with you, brother.
Yeah, nice meeting you.
Absolutely, bro.
We got to keep it moving and we got to say what's up to everybody.
Let's say what's up to my guy, Moon.
Moon, what's shaking, baking?
What's cooking?
Good looking.
How are you feeling on this fabuloso fry?
I'm feeling good.
My, uh,
the job that I work at IRL
is closed today.
Home offices are shut down. Lines
are not running.
So it's pretty relaxed. Just being able to
focus on some personal things try
to try to get my life in order you know what i'm saying dude i'll try to just fucking just put the
put the hammer to the nail and get ready to do this thing but i'm feeling good bro uh i listened
to jerome powell yesterday um i really honestly every time i listen to him the more he grows on me bro like he's really
like the old grandpa that delivers the tough love in the best way possible like he's like basically
saying like the market like i get like the bullish sentiment from the from the new administration
like that's great and all but he wants to see a change in the actual numbers in the stock market
to try to prevent some hyperinflation as well before he does cut these interest rates. I think
a quarter point cut could help, but he wants to see real change before that. I don't think we're
going to see Powell get, what is it, like fired or on leave or whatever it is.
I think that he'll serve out the rest of his term,
and then we'll see him resign in May 2026,
or we'll just see him not rerun for the position.
But I don't see him resigning early.
That could shake up the market, probably for like the worst, to be honest,
because a lot of the big money ballers really respect Jerome Powell and what he has to say about the market and his overall sentiment
i love that take
i love that take these guys were larping about not buying crypto and being against crypto and now they're
all in favor for crypto it's funny how times switch up and how these these people switch up
and they create all these policies and legislations and laws around you know crypto and and all sorts
of stocks but then after they switch up and buy crypto
market manipulation at its finest moon I
Like to take as well. That's kind of the game Tony like they say like there's a saying where they say first they fight it
Then they regulate it
Then they join it or something like that goes something like that
But it's essentially like, you know, the elite, the big dogs, whatever you want to call them. They pretend as if they're not
into it. JP Morgan, Jamie, you know, Jamie Dimon, they're like, oh, Bitcoin's a scam.
Criminals use it, whatever. But in the background, they're over there accumulating. They just want,
they want your bags. They want you to get weak-handed, paper-handed, sell, you know, like have the fear of crypto, and then they're going to go and buy it.
Like, that's what they do.
You got to watch what they do, not what they say.
Absolute fact.
Jamie Dimon is a bitch, I'm sorry to say, but this guy kept on saying none of his clients wanted crypto.
Nobody wants crypto and then he's buying it jp morgan's buying it by the boatloads fuck you scammers and i heard a rumor
also he's not really a nice person in general either that's what i heard then a double you jamie diamond yeah the space is getting canceled pretty soon but it we're almost at the end of the show so
uh i like all the takes rick star how are you doing bro give us a hot take well crypto and
nft surge 2025 welcome to fomo fm rick you're a regular up here what's up big papa what's up brother i feel like it's a day before
christmas bro 420 is literally around the corner i've done my shopping i'm just looking at all my
goods for the day these edibles i want to get into them now bro but i have to hold off have to hold
off uh but they're looking tasty bro we're gonna get faded heavily tomorrow uh we're doing a 24 hour
space so it's going to be nuts bro um yeah bro i just on a take i think bro i've been thinking
about this for a while and obviously now running a project i have to think about this is like
sustainability is one thing and then the other thing is like rewarding loyalty within the the nft space
like i get that like these airdrops do reward holders but only to a certain extent because
the minute that these airdrops are done or anything's done to that certain extent people
sell they get out the project it crashes i think that we have to create value long term
and i think that we also need to be realistic with our expectations.
You know, you look at a brand, I think we've spoken about it before, a brand like Supreme
started in 1994.
It only really blew, it took almost 20 years for Supreme to blow up.
So, you know, catering to these little niches, and that's pretty much what we're doing as
NFT project founders and catering to our communities
is the alpha because we want super fans we want people that love these brands and these products
so much that they're going to go out and tell their friends and then the value will raise it's
not going to just come from doing airdrops and you know giving holders a whole bunch of money so they
can flip and bounce out of the project it's about sustainability so creating these business models that benefit the holders and the
small niche that you have so whatever that might be you know if your holders are into weed and
skating like cater to that shit get them really really happy and be super fans because a brand
like supreme didn't go for like everyone they went just for those skaters
and they made sure that those skaters became super super super fans and once you have that
then everyone else starts to fomo and because it becomes like a a icon a a like a kind of like a
cultural sign and that's what you need to create you know you're not going to
create that by trying to appeal to the masses which what i which is what i think a lot of these
nft projects try and do it like try let's try on board all the normies like i'm i'm like no bro
niche down and look for a very specific audience for example us we all weed smokers how many weed
smokers are there in the world?
Millions and millions.
It's one of the biggest communities in the entire world is weed smokers.
So that's who we should be targeting.
Like if that's your thing, you know, if that is your niche of your community, then we target those specifically, those specific people and cater to them.
Give them experiences, create a network throughout the world that you can travel and basically meet up with a stone in any country, anywhere in the world,
through holding, you know, an NFT or whatever it might be.
Things like that will be super value.
That's just an example, by the way, but that's super valuable to a holder, you know, so like
creating real, real value for the people that are true supporters, I think is the alpha and not just air dropping a bunch of the liquidity from the project into the hands of the flippers, the DGENs.
Like we got to stop catering to the DGENs in this space.
And I think that that's a big problem.
We do.
We try cater to them because they pump the price.
Let's rather go after the organic lovers of our brands
and make them happy.
And they're not getting,
because they're the ones that get burnt.
Because when it comes to like these airdrops
and all of that shit,
they hold and all the flippers,
DJs flip out of the project
and they left holding the bag.
And it's a shame because they're the true supporters.
So I want to see like rewarding those
people like those diamond hands that have been around and like how do we do that it's not
necessarily financially it's by giving them what they want giving them the experience they want
by holding that said asset so yeah that's just my take maybe a bit of a hot take but that's my take
great take rick and i agree i don't think that we should cater to the dgens anymore i think that people are looking for real value i think that
when you have a niche or a niche whatever you call it people really can identify your brand
and um you're doing something original you know and same thing with doodle genetics we've never
intended to be like the board apes or the youth or the d gods or anything of that nature um you're doing something original you know and same thing with doodle genetics we never intended
to be like the board apes or the youths or the d gods or anything of that nature we just wanted
to do things originally and i'm pretty excited we have like 58 volume needs sold on the secondary
plus another like 1500 solana uh on the secondary market as well too so more than like a quarter million dollars worth of uh
nft sales for people that actually own our nfts and our digital assets and there's been plenty of
like online uh rewards and and digital rewards physical rewards in real life events and uh
parties so yeah we're gonna continue building with everybody here. But I love everybody's take.
I think that they've hidden hot takes.
Everybody.
Apparently, Volt, let's say what's up to you, GM, GM, my friend.
I don't want to miss out on your take as well, too.
Will crypto and NFT surge in 2025?
Absolutely, Doodle.
First of all, I want to say thanks for having me up. I appreciate
it. And also, very amazing takes from everyone up here on the panel, the co-hosts, all the
speakers. One thing I wanted to share is the reason why I believe cryptos and NFTs will surge, not just in 2025, 2026, going on to the next cycle.
It's really deflationary assets and assets that bring value to the space,
like utility. I think utility is very important. And I think accountability is also very important.
And knowing your research, I believe if you're
researching correctly, you can be very, very successful in this space. And I like to take
as well that not catering to DGENs. I think DGENs absolutely have ruined the space in my opinion.
space in my opinion but i also think that we are moving in the right direction too
absolutely um i'm very bullish on bitcoin i do believe bitcoin is going to go
to a million dollars one day um even to 10 million dollars that's just my take because
bitcoin is a deflationary asset and i'm very bullish on bitcoin and i'm very bullish on
all the cryptos that are here to build all the nft projects that are here to build um
i'm i'm apparently voted that is my name uh vote is actually my favorite crypto
i'm not going to shill it but I would highly recommend everyone take a
look at it it definitely is worth the time and yeah I just want to say thanks
for this space you said you were having a space tomorrow and I definitely would
love to tune into that is it gonna be around the same time doodle yeah we
generally do morning spaces and then we have some time pop-up evening spaces or degen spaces in the evening.
But yeah, I appreciate you always just coming in, whether you're somebody that's new to the space,
whether you're somebody that's been a veteran for years.
I appreciate all the amazing takes.
Just to wrap up the space, guys, I'm a little bit short on time but we'll get
to everybody in the next space it's gonna be a show space it's the super
Saturday show space and basically we do it for like two to three hours and all
sorts of projects all sorts of tokens platforms decentralized exchanges
deep ends d5 projects anybody nft projects artists you're all willing
to come up and share but we gotta go and i'm taking us out on a legendary song right now
just the way we started this fabulous friday to everybody in this space
go to the top pin tweet that's a free nft i'm picking a few of you guys retweet it and reply. That's all you got to do to
qualify. Shout out to Dabatola, shout out to Queen Phoenix and everybody that came to
support this amazing space. We love you. That's a fucking fact. Have a great Friday!
We're out!
