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WIN $30,000 + $200 IN $PACK | AI Agents Hackathon Roundtable
Recorded: April 24, 2025 Duration: 2:08:30Space Recording
Short Summary
The AI Agents Hackathon Roundtable showcased innovative projects and ideas, including AI agents for tracking Uber fares and transforming social media bookmarks into actionable tasks. Participants discussed the growing trend of integrating AI with blockchain technology, emphasizing the potential for significant advancements and user-friendly tools in the crypto space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hello, hello, hello everyone.
Hey, good morning, good morning.
How are you?
Doing great.
Let's get you guys up on the mic here.
How are you, Phil?
How's your morning going?
I'm doing great, man.
Really, you are multitasking this morning.
I just caught you over the other show you were just doing, man.
Yeah, it's been a really crazy last six weeks, honestly,
everything.
But I think that went really well.
I loved the conversation.
I really loved Ash's points as well.
I think the way that he described AI
and what we're doing at Open Convey is the yellow pages
of Hedera for AI makes a lot of sense. Because it's also doing with Open Convey is the yellow pages of Hedera for AI makes a lot of sense.
Because it's also like, with Open Convey,
it's not just AI agents that can register, it's humans too.
So it really is a yellow book if you think about it
in that way.
Yeah, I love the analogy, yeah.
While you guys are,
while we're waiting for the room to fill up a little bit,
if you guys can like and repost, that'll be fantastic.
And remember, we're giving away $200 in PAC token today.
So you will need to like and repost the space to be eligible for that, as well as you'll have to pitch.
But yeah, let's try to fill this room out.
We got Patricia here as well.
How's it going, Patricia?
Hello, hello. Well, I'm on vacation. So I, it's the best I could be right now at this point.
But you know, it goes even on vacation, you can't take the Web3 site out of this gal so i'm here and i was uh watching um um the the stream
that you just did with uh with ev and uh ash and it was amazing you guys did great to to showcase
uh everything that it's building being built around um ai agents and everything that is being built with Comvai AI as well.
And I was, when Ashley said that he doesn't use Google search for a while,
I started laughing because you know that I do that myself as well now.
I go mostly to AI to ask stuff instead of going to Google.
But I did something, like it was yesterday, I think I went
to Google to search something. And I searched it in form of a question as if I was using GPT or
something like that. Because I forgot that I was on Google and not using AI to search something
that I wanted. So I'm so used to AI for searches now that I ask Google a question.
That's hilarious.
And I know that Google, I think, is experimenting a little bit with agentic searches as well.
They're obviously looking at perplexity.
And I think that could make them a little bit nervous, especially with their recent fundraising now.
But I don't know that the idea of a search engine
in particular will exist in this agentic future.
Honestly, I don't think it will.
All right, we're starting to get some more folks here.
What I'll start doing is I'll pin the uh some posts up at the top as a reminder where we are right now with the ai agents hackathon is we're in
uh week two right now so there's still a
I recommend if you haven't registered yet, go in, go to hashgraphonline.com forward slash
hackathon and register.
And also, this is an AI agents hackathon.
So you can enter as a human or you can enter with your agentic friend in the hackathon.
And we honestly recommend it we'd love to see some agents participate in this hackathon i think that would be really
brilliant over this last week we've had a whole bunch of posts that cover our exclusive mentors
and judges if you just go down our feed you'll'll see some of them. You can learn about them a little
bit and what they bring to the table. Many of these names you will recognize from the community
if you're within the Hedera community. But also we've got the incredible folks at HashGrab DevRel,
some of which are product, some of which are behind are behind the scenes don't get enough credit
for the work that they're doing so i recommend checking that out and i think the most important
thing too that we dropped this week and i've been briefly covering over the last few days
is the new moonscapecape Open Convey Portal,
which is like, if you have like a decentralized version
of chat GPT or quad and you combine them all together,
or even PO or Open Router,
that's what the Open Convey Portal is.
It's the human in the loop aspect of it all,
where you as a human can now actually see, you can now connect and talk to these
AI agents. And these AI agents might be really good at doing certain tasks, completing them,
utilizing large language models. So maybe you've got an agent that's really good at generating
cat pictures, like we just demoed in that call
and you charge 10 HBAR for every request.
So think about off the back of that,
well, now you have this public portal
where your agent can register
and other people can discover it.
How do I turn that into a business?
And I think you absolutely can.
And we wanna help you do it.
So if you have ideas around AI agents
that you wanna build, reach out to us
and also sign up for the hackathon.
You might win from $30,000 in prizes,
but you'll definitely learn a few things
about building these AI agents in this new agentic era.
We've got Pluto here from Hashpack as well
and I think we've got Baz here from Legends of the Past.
How are you guys doing today?
Hello.
Yes, it's Baz.
Hey, guys. Yes, it's Baz. Baz speaking.
Happy to be here because obviously we're speaking tomorrow together.
But yeah, I love it.
Basically, I'm very happy to be here because I'm also passionate about AI.
Most of you don't know that, but I also have a Master in Artificial Intelligence and Big Data.
But before going into Mac Web 3, it was kind of my thing with Neil.
And in the recent five months, we also did a collaboration with a project called Diambra, which is a project related to one of our equity investors.
So that's why we supported them and helped them a little bit on a couple aspects.
But I'm also very passionate about AI agent.
This project was about AI agent playing video games in like Street Fighter kind of game.
So a mix of like crypto,
AI agent and gaming. So that was fascinating. But yeah, happy to be here and happy to learn
more about the hackathon. And maybe we can ask one of our developers to actually participate.
It could be fun to deploy a legend of the past AI agent. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's so many cool things you could do with gaming and AI,
especially with Open Convey.
Pluto, I think you got cut off earlier.
How's it going, man?
Welcome up to the stage.
How are you feeling about Hederax AI?
I saw some interesting posts from your feed.
No, I didn't get cut off.
I was just saying hi.
Yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about it.
I think it's a really good initiative. This stuff's pretty cutting edge and there's a lot of room for
just playing around and doing cool stuff. So I think it's definitely a good initiative, yeah.
Cool.
Well, thanks for coming up.
All right.
Phil, Patricia, any thoughts about this new Open Convey
portal and where you think
we're heading
in the current iteration
of Hedera AI? Any news that you
want to cover before we dive
into the
pitches for this session?
Can you hear me?
Loud and quick.
Okay, cool. Yeah, anything for me
that is connecting communities is absolutely bullish
right now, especially for AI.
So yeah, looking forward to it and cannot wait to be hearing the pitches for today.
I'm super excited with the portal because it's going to be so much easier to find agents, to talk to them, to receive information that you want.
retrieve information that you want.
And seeing this happening there, it's great because you guys know how excited we are for being here.
And it's a network that allows us to do so many things in terms of infrastructure,
in terms of performance, in terms of low fees and the fees being predictable on top of all.
So seeing this happening here, it's absolutely exciting. And having a super
fast way to discover agents, to talk to them, to being on top of everything that you want
is just crazy. Like we're advancing so fast in terms of what AI is able to do and the
things that it helps
in all sides of our lives right now that it's crazy.
Yeah, things are speeding up.
So yeah, you guys heard it from Patricia.
If you're engaging in the hackathon
or even if you're just interested in Hederax AI,
check out the Minscape open convey portal,
set up a testnet account,
which you can do with the Hashpack wallet.
And Hashpack is sponsoring this space, by the way,
with $200 in pack token.
If you don't know,
Hashpack is the leading wallet on Hedera
in terms of retail capture.
And they've also just got a kick ass wallet
when you even look at it from a broader
sense of Web3 and the UX when it comes down to it. And I think at 4pm today, they're also hosting
another pack the mic session, which I think would be really good. So big shout out to Hashpack and their,
all they do for the ecosystem.
So today what we are going to do, number one, if you are a developer in the space,
we do have a week left for the Hack Funds.
So if you wanna come up and just tell us about your project
or you wanna get feedback, please come up.
There is a PAC token contest where you can win $200 in PAC
by giving us a 30 second pitch.
But you do not, if you're not comfortable
with entering that competition, you don't have to do it.
I have pinned it up at the top.
You can just come up and ask questions about your project.
Maybe you're in the middle of something and you just want help. We are here to help you and provide
technical assistance and mentorship. And that's a big opportunity too when it comes down to it.
So please don't be shy. Request to speak. And we're happy to answer any questions that you might
have around that. Otherwise, you can also DM us.
So I pinned that post up to the top and the way that the competition is going to
work. So number one, you guys can start requesting to speak on the mic.
So we do so now so that we have a queue of you. And when you come up,
You can tell us if you want help with something or if you want to enter the competition.
you can tell us if you want help with something or if you want to enter the
competition.
And then what will happen is I'll ask you what industry or business your agent is disrupting.
So please think of one before you come up in advance.
And then you will have 30 seconds to pitch.
We've seen kind of like from the start of this show
that the pitches have gradually gotten better and better.
And the key to a good pitch, again,
is being really concise and clear
about your value proposition for your product.
Avoid the use of really big words and buzzwords.
You want to be as clear as possible.
And also try to connect the dots
for how this makes sense for the broader
Web3 landscape and the Hedera landscape.
30 seconds is a short time,
so you have to be really careful with your words.
And you can use AI, this is an AI hackathon after all,
to help you write your pitch in advance.
So those are the tips those
are the rules now we've got I see two people in the queue again requests to
speak so that we can get you in time will start moving fast once we start
hearing some of the pitches that we have today let's see I'll bring you guys up
and it'll be a honor system you guys can just raise your hand to speak.
We've got a few folks here now.
Welcome up.
If I may also, just don't let language barrier also get in the way.
So if you're speaking French or Portuguese, just come up on stage still.
We got someone who can translate the thing.
Even Maui is down in attendance.
He speaks Spanish.
So don't let language be a barrier for this pitch for today.
GARY GENSLER- Absolutely.
All right, we've got three folks up here now.
If any of you are ready to speak, please raise your hand.
And we'll bring you up shortly.
While we're waiting for those hands,
again, please like and repost the space.
Every bit helps, but also by liking and reposting the space,
you will get yourself an entry
for this $200 in pack giveaway.
So it's all upside, no downside for engaging.
All right.
I think Anthony, you've got your hands up first.
Are you ready to give us a shot?
What new business model are we hearing about today?
Hi, yeah.
So I don't know what industry would be disrupting,
but it's for anyone that takes Uber's often and tries to
not get hit with price surges. It's an AI agent that uses Uber's price estimate API to track
fares changing between two locations in real time. You set your ideal price and time, like 5 p.m. after work,
and it checks automatically using scheduled tasks.
When fares drop below your target, it pings you on an alert.
So you don't need to keep checking the app
and worrying about getting hit with the price searches
that happen at rush hour.
Boom, that is a cool idea.
I like that one a lot.
It's such a cool idea. I like that one a lot. It's such a good idea.
I mean, we've seen rideshare aggregators before
in the past in the app store.
It becomes like a zero sum battle,
but having something that tells you,
like if you need to get somewhere
and you don't have a predetermined time
that you need to get there,
but that sounds like it could be pretty handy.
What do you guys think on our panel?
I think it's amazing.
Like when Anthony started talking about doing something like that,
I was like, okay, this is an amazing idea. And first time that we are hearing it here about Uber rides.
So awesome.
And I'm asked this question often.
So I'm going to ask you this question as well, Anthony.
Do you ever sleep?
Not enough, but I'm working on that.
Absolutely love it.
What's up, Anthony?
I love it, you know,
and especially for someone who's been using
and still using Uber on a,
not only daily basis,
but a couple of times per week for sure.
I love it, man.
That's really cool.
Great, great, great use case there.
Yeah, me too.
I love it.
I mean, it's so efficient.
It makes sense.
It's definitely something that I could personally use tomorrow.
So I love it. TOMAS REYNOLDS was a good pitch. You did a lot of things,
right, with your pitch. You were clear, concise. You described the product. There was no
distractions in your audio when you spoke. And we all understood exactly what you meant.
That's what you wanted to pitch. Cool. All right, we've got a couple more hands here.
Crypto Boy, you've got your hand up.
Do you wanna give a shot at a pitch?
Yeah, I wanna pitch.
Good day, everyone.
Good day, sir.
Okay, so here's how it's gonna work.
First, tell us what is the business or industry that your AI agent is
disrupting and then give us your 30 second pitch yeah it's hash pilot me
you're all in one web 3 co-pilot built on bounty block and live on Hashpack app. It turns your complex on-chain tax, token swaps,
taking portfolio analytics in one-step prompts,
always hunting for the best price and lowest gas.
Hashpilot even automates reward claims
and rebalances your holdings on the fly
with enterprise-grade security in real-time market smarts.
It's only the agent you need on DeFi.
My name is Emmanuel and I'm a 16 year old boy
repping HashPilot.
Thanks.
Would you be able to provide,
like I heard words, but I am a little bit
confused I'll be honest I don't understand what problem the AI agent is
solving but I do think cash pilot is a cool name
sorry I didn't get you.
I was saying, can you tell us in shorter words,
what is the key problem that your AI agent is solving?
Because I heard a lot of words,
but it wasn't totally clear on what it did.
I mean, I do think the name HashPilot is a very cool name.
Yeah, it turns complex on-chain analytics
into one stem prompt. It's always hunting for the lowest gas and best price.
That's the main deal.
So it gets you data.
Is the core value proposition analytics
or is it trading?
And you said something about Bounty Block, so I wasn't totally sure.
For other mentors and judges, do you have any additional feedback for Crypto Boy?
Yeah, I mean, we love BountyBlock.
I'm looking forward to hear more exactly what this does like on the concrete as to
in terms of use case. Yes.
Cool.
Maybe we can we can go on to the next pitch and see if CryptoBoy,
if you had more info on the Bounty aspect i i wasn't sure um we've got uh tolga and zanet up here on on the mic uh tolga what's
up are you uh entering the hackathon or are you uh pitching today uh if you have a question about
the hackathon we're also happy to answer that, technical or otherwise.
But yeah, chime in.
Hi guys, nice to see you again.
Actually, you know, I want to pitch this time because I attempted once, but I really loved the process.
Actually, I was a mentor in some programs before in IRL.
So, you know, it's a very good feeling, you know, actually to be here.
Oh, that's awesome. What did you mentor in, if you don't mind me asking?
Actually, you know, in my city or, you know, in sometimes in Istanbul, there were some,
you know, university community-based events or some startup events, let's say, you know, online-based, let's say.
I was mentoring in the communication aspects for the projects.
For example, one of them was, you know, one of them was, you know, supported by European Union funds.
You know, they were supporting early stage of ideas, you ideas. Such programs, you know, actually.
Very cool. All right. Well, we're glad to have you on. Let's jump into your pitch.
So again, I think you've heard the rules, but I just, I repeat them for clarity's sake.
And also we've got a lot more people joining in now.
It looks like there's like 200 people in this space.
Tolga, number one, tell us what is the business
or industry you are disrupting?
And then jump into a 30 second pitch.
Remember to keep it clear and concise,
limit the use of buzzwords if you can. 30 sekundi bir sürü. Yeni bir sürü, yıksan ve yıksanlıkla ve bir sürü,
ve sonra
panelistler ve
sürüdülü
sorularınızı
30 sekundi başlar.
Teşekkürler.
Bu, aslında
günlük hayatımızın
günlük hayatımızın
günlük hayatımızın
günlüklerinden
günlüklerden
günlüklerden günlüklerden günlüklerden günlüklerden günlüklerden you know the daily life routine so you know it's a struggle for people to you know collect garbage
or let's say distribute their daily garbage you know in each these this is different processes
and you know sometimes it's also a business or you know back end you know this also related
to sustainability but you know it's also it's an another economy so i thought you know nobody you
well aware of the situation.
You know, such an AI agent with a revenue stream, of course, with hashback or edge bar,
with mobile use, you know, people can figure out how they collect their garbage
or they can make money upon it and contribute to the sustainability of the world, actually.
My beginning point is sustainability, but I also engage with the daily life. it and you know to contribute to the sustainability of the world actually my you know the beginning
point is sustainability but you know i also engage with the daily life uh you know that's it
cool yeah i love the sustainability angle it is very in line with hedera as an ecosystem i don't
you probably have seen endeavors like from dovu and the Guardian tokenization of carbon credits.
So I think things like that all align with the core ethos of Hedera.
And Hedera is quite cheap as transaction fees go, but also in cost of electricity uh i know that ucl had that famous diagram that showed that
hidera is the cheapest network uh when it comes to elect electricity uh usage so i think it's cool
i guess my key question will be in an opacity to mentors and judges how would somebody interface
with your ai agent what do you see that conversation looking like? Or is it an MCP server or what's the deal with it?
Sorry, you asked me, right?
Yes.
Okay, actually, I assume with the adoption of
the blockchain, I assume Hedera will be leading on this pillar
i assume it will be mostly mobile app related ai agent it must be i suppose uh but you know it can
be also any web app but you know also by the way you know about you know cheap you know the good
figures or let's say good things you mentioned about Hedera, but I am also, you know, very Algorand, you know, end to assist.
So, you know, I know how Algorand and Hedera contribute to the ecosystem in terms of electricity, cheap transactions, fast speed.
So, you know, it's very good catch. But about your question, you know, actually, I don't have any comparison with any other AI agents in this area, let's say, you know, I don you know, actually I don't have any comparison with any other AI agents
in this area, let's say, you know, I don't know actually
if there are any, I thought something, you know, people
actually have zero knowledge about, so
it's always, you know, possessive position, possessive potential
to go on, to create more economy, let's say.
And sorry, to clarify, maybe the point I was putting in,
I will pass it on to the other judges and mentors here.
How does your AI agent make money?
Like what would somebody be paying for when it comes to sustainability angle?
Yeah, actually, you know, I thought, you know, actually, I thought, you know, two ways, but, you know, mostly dealing of the people, let's say users aspect.
But, you know, you know, actually in the sustainability, it's a common fact that some institutions or let's say municipalities using some funds, sustainability funds to, you know to utilize their processes. Let's say they try to make their process easier.
So with the adoption of the blockchain, my point for revenue stream to trigger this app
use, trigger this AI agents based app use, the institutions or let's say sustainability freaks or let's say you mentioned carbon credits,
they actually should motivate people to use it.
So you know actually the way it makes revenue, yes people will hold tokens,
but you know this time it will be way of people
maybe spending less money, but in a reverse based app it might be.
Not people spend money, but people get rewards for this, but they may have to hold some PEC
token or Hedera token to be able to participate in the ecosystem, let's say.
Cool. Yeah, I like that a lot. Okay, let's throw it to our mentors and judges.
I love the sustainability angle. Phil, what do you got for us? What do you think about this pitch?
I love it. I love it in terms of how it really, like you said,
it really connects to the ethos of what we're about over Hedera.
It's really good.
I'm having trouble seeing how those two connects.
Like the core proposition value absolutely slaps.
That's on site.
It works.
Like especially you want to be thinking about the environment
and we can have like great examples as to what Dovo is doing and everything.
But as to how those two connects as to are you going to be making money?
How is that sustainable?
How are you going to be using the tech AI as to connecting what you propose in terms of use case as to how you can connect it to the tech?
Still remains a tad blurry for me.
But again, the core of it really is interesting and it's efficient.
Thanks, Phil. Yeah, I agree with that feedback as well. I don't totally understand the vision
around the tech side of it, but I think the sustainability niche is huge.
Pluto, Baz, you guys have any feedback around that pitch?
I'm pretty much echoing what Phil had to say.
Sounds pretty good.
Yeah, similarly. Cool. Similarly, yeah, it sounds pretty good. Yeah, similarly.
Cool.
Similarly, I like it.
And yeah, I just need to envision a little bit more about the business model and yeah,
how it can be like sustainable over time.
But yeah, seems to be a different approach to it.
So far, I like it.
And maybe I'll rephrase this too, Pluto, because I would be curious, actually, you're
a key developer in this space.
You've been here for a long time, especially Hedera, and I know you're exploring AI as
well.
How could you envision AI working in the sustainability niche just in general,
either through agents or NCP servers or the latter.
What do you think on that?
Could you kind of explain what you mean by sustainability exactly?
Well, things like, yeah, like carbon credits, trash,
and other like sustainability endeavors. Where do you think agents play a role in those sorts of things? being used by like i i mean i'm more of like the physical kind of guy when it comes to that stuff
so like like like vision stuff like classification of like real things going through uh processes
and like systems like like recycling and stuff like that i think would be pretty cool
but yeah when it comes to like carbon credits, I'm not super familiar with that stuff.
Yeah, totally fair.
Awesome. All right, so just a reminder everyone,
and well, before I do that,
Tolga, thank you for coming up and giving us your pitch.
It takes a lot of courage to come up on the stand
and share your idea with everyone.
So we're really delighted to have you folks come up
and pitch with us today.
This is a judgment-free zone.
Our main goal is to help you here,
improve your capabilities of pitching,
and give you the opportunity to win $200
in PACT token as a prize.
So for anyone else that's in the listener panel,
I don't know if we've got a queue here.
If you want to win $200 in PAC, please request to speak.
Additionally, you can request to speak
if you have a question about the hackathon
or Hederax AI in general,
maybe you're wondering about this upcoming demo day,
we've got an open door policy here.
So please request to speak so that we can take your questions
in an orderly fashion.
And we'd love to hear what you have to say.
Crypto Boy, you've got your hand up again.
How is it, I know earlier, maybe we lost you.
There's maybe some rebuttal about your pitch.
Yeah, you were asking about what HashPilot does on BountyBlock.
Yes, yeah, we'd love to know more about that.
Yeah, yeah, campaign automation and onboarding.
Yeah, HashPilot auto-enrolls users into eligible Bounty Block campaigns by analyzing wallet activities, social interaction, and participations.
No manual checking required.
Yeah, that's a part of what Hash pilot doesn't bounty block yeah it also munch multi-chain quest
executor yeah go a multi-step tax to complete a bounty yeah hash pilot breaks it down and automates
each steps for swapping tokens and signing proofs across chains using natural languages and commands
is using natural languages and commands.
Very cool.
I imagine that there are quite a few people
who would find something that really useful
if you are interested in giveaways
and competitions like that.
So I think I see what you mean though.
I don't know if it's- I don't know yeah yeah yeah it's
connects with Twitter that's X also like retweets or follow from connected
accounts increasing your campaign eligibility without social fatigue. Yeah, once again, I'm Crypto Boy, a 16-year-old.
Okay, so I have a question, Crypto Boy.
What you were mentioning about auto-enrolling people into campaigns,
it's great for the regular user, but how will your agent make sure that is not
enrolling a ton of bots into the campaigns instead of actual users?
Sorry I didn't get that. Outer enrolling people? It's dangerous because it can be just a ton of bots instead of real people.
So how will your agent prevent bots from enrolling into campaigns?
Yeah, it looks at your social graph.
It analyzes your behaviors on X.
Okay, thank you. It analyzes your behaviors on X. Yeah.
Okay, thank you. Yeah.
I emphasize a lot what Patricia is saying.
I think it would save a lot of people time to have an AI agent
to automate these kinds of things, but I would worry for the businesses that are running these giveaways and competitions that they, you know, unfortunately it could open for a civil attack, right?
Where you have bot armies essentially enrolling so that they can game the system and get these prizes. So there would have to be a really good system
around your agent to prevent that kind of a farming.
Otherwise it would kind of like cause the whole system
to collapse, right?
Because if anyone enrolling,
if everyone enrolling is mostly like 90% bots,
then nobody will want to participate
who's an actual like legitimate human.
So that would be my biggest concern with something like that but again like it takes a lot of courage to come up here
and pitch and it's a good way to get feedback on your idea so it's not a it's not a butt on your
solution but maybe a good idea to reframe and think about how you would tackle that problem and prevent that kind of attack.
Yeah, and GG's for coming up on stage, man, at 16 years old, for sure.
Respect.
I didn't have the courage to do that when I was that age, man.
But yeah, keep on holding that.
Come back on stage anytime, man.
And yeah, keep on working that.
You got something for sure.
Anything that is towards this what we call social fatigue,
like to gain people time in terms of how they can aggregate information
that's important to them is absolutely a winner.
And AI agents strikes right in the middle of that,
especially if you're using it there, of course.
And yeah, keep at it.
And I do want to say too,
like that second time that you took the mic and you're describing what it does.
While I may not love the approach yet, you were very clear with how you described it.
And I think everyone in the speaker panel understood what you were creating now.
And that's the good first step is because a lot of people, they say words when they come up and they take the mic.
But we don't always understand those words, right? So it's all about simplification,
explaining the product and what are the benefits in clear, simple terms. Sometimes we want to go and utilize really big words. And that can, you know, it can be impressive to some people to utilize big words
and big language uh but it actually makes it harder for a lot of people to understand you and
in some cases it can unfortunately backfire so always always recommend simple language over uh
more broader uh jargon that you can kind of squeeze in.
So overall, good attempt.
I think it's some things to think about.
For the audience, again, we've got $200 in PAP tokens up for grab here today.
If you have the courage, come up, request to speak, and give us your pitch.
If you're not ready to pitch
yet uh that's okay uh but again it's an open door policy no a judgment-free zone uh then you can
also come up ask a question about the hackathon or if you are building in the hackathon tell us
about what you're building how we can help you you create your best solution so that you can, you
know, so we can help you win the $30,000 in prizes that are available for this hackathon. We've also
got Dave from All Things Crypto here. Sorry, Michael. I'm so sorry to interrupt, but before we go to Dave, Zanat, you've been a speaker for a while. Do you want to ask a question about the
hackathon? Do you want to pitch? Zanat, are you with us? You're not with us, so I'm going to remove
you from the stage.
But if you want to join again to ask a question about the hackathon or the pitch, go ahead.
It's a shame.
I like his banner a lot, working hard and dreaming big.
I'm all for that.
Dave, we've got you up on the mic.
How's it going, Dave?
How's your day? i'm doing good man
what's up guys can't do what's good patricia's good to see you again what's up what's up
how are you how you guys doing doing great beautiful day today man sun is out how you
been oh my god same here in new york finally the sun has come out no more snow i finally come out of my shell. I mean, it's not like I really leave the house anyway,
because I'm a Web3 hermit and I live in the dungeon in Twitter spaces. But, you know,
I guess maybe they'll let me out from time to time. But I'm good, man. I'm good. I'm good.
Excited. You know, we got a little action in the markets lately. So, you know, I saw this space pop
up. Here comes I'd come support my
boy Cantor, see what's cooking, any new pitches going on. Like what's happening? You know, I
didn't want to come steal everybody's money, you know, the last time and figure this time, you know,
guys, I gotta be honest. I might've looked into really building that idea with the whole
SendText thing and, you know, the reviews and I'm like, maybe this could be something, but I need, I need dev help. I don't know where bread is. I just shot him this, uh,
shot him the space. I'm looking for my buddy to come help me out with this. But if there's any
devs in here, okay. That want to make a cool quick 30,000 bucks, hit me up. We got this.
Okay. I don't know why if you're a full stack dev, okay. I don't know why you are
not already in my DMS being like, Dave, I want to make 30 grand. Cause I'm telling you, this is
there for the taking. Let's take it. Let's take it. Good stuff guys. I appreciate you having me
here, man. I, uh, I recommend everyone in the audience to reach out to Dave.
He's really great at product positioning.
Of course, he runs the AKC show every day.
He's got a huge audience, and that's a testament to Dave's capabilities.
So he would be a great person to have on your team.
He's also got a good grasp on where AI is heading in the future.
So when it comes to developing a winning idea, Dave is your guy to reach out to.
So you guys heard it there.
Dave's looking for a team.
Hit him up.
I guess you and Kool aren't building out that syntax bot, but I do hope that you find someone here is willing to take you up on that offer. I think Dave, how can somebody best reach
out to you if they want you on their team? Yeah. So I don't know. My DMs are a little bit funny.
Sometimes like things go through, I don't know what setting I have on, but it's kind of to filter
a lot of like the hacking, the real hacking that goes on. But yeah, no, hit up my DMs or if you
want to put up a tweet, put it in the comments below, like wherever I'm excited.
I'm super accessible.
I'm 100% accessible.
Yeah, I think we can.
I kind of like map this out a little bit more, right?
Because I've been playing around with a lot more of these like different tools because
this stuff changes so fast every day, man.
Like it really, really does.
I mean, I was up until four o'clock in the morning today, just like trying to figure
out like, wait a minute, like what is Thunkable? I didn't know what thunkable was. It's like,
that's how you put out like an iOS app or like an Android app. And I'm like, I could do this.
Like this looks simple enough, little building blocks. I feel like a kid. So like there's like,
there's ways to do this stuff. And it's like, I don't know. Like, I feel like there's so much
possible. If you think that there's no possibility out here right now, then you're not paying attention.
You're asleep at the wheel because the access that you have to like the people that you
have, the access to potential winnings and money that you like, that you can have access
to as well, along with the resources, like people are putting massive resources into
like really pushing this space forward.
So I like, and you just got gotta not be, not be lazy.
Just like start doing a little homework, do a little, be a little curious, do a little research,
but yeah, can't there? Like there's so, there's so much stuff happening. I it's literally the
other day I said to myself, I can't, I felt this moment going through the timeline. I can't keep
up. Cause I'm, I'd never look at bookmarks anyway, but I'm bookmarking. I can't scroll for more than two seconds, but I'm like, oh, this sounds interesting.
Let me bookmark this.
Yeah.
700 bookmarks later, I haven't read a single one, but damn, you know what I mean?
That could be a great use case.
That is a use case.
That is a use case.
There we have it.
Go ahead.
I have the same problem.
Send it.
Pitch it.
You might win.
This might be it right here.
Dave, you want to come back in five minutes and pitch that?
Do you want to laugh?
You know what's really funny?
So I took part in an agent mint yesterday.
So the Think agents are one of my clients.
I love those guys.
I love those guys, right?
They just minted on ETH.
Like they just minted on ETH, a huge success over there.
A huge success over there.
And, you know, like they got the, there is massive traction behind like AI, decentralized
AI, the whole nine yards.
And somebody in the chat actually said this the other day.
And they were just like, yeah, like, you know what I want an agent for?
An agent to actually go back and look through all my bookmarks, sort through them, and ultimately
come back and tell me, this is the useful shit that you need
from all of these bookmarks,
and this is how it can help you now, today, doing this.
Yeah.
It's the idea right now, Dave.
Do it.
This is not peer pressure at all, guys.
We're not pressuring Dave to do anything he doesn't want.
Dave wants to do this.
Dave was born to do this.
He's been thinking about bookmarks
for a very, very long time. Like, it might have been. He's been thinking about bookmarks for a very,
very long time. It might've been two minutes, might've been an hour, a month. I don't know,
but it's in his head. It's bothering him. Do you guys do this as well? And yeah,
I'll come back in five minutes and pitch this the proper way for sure. Do you guys do this as well
where it's like, I'll bookmark it, but then I'll also DM it to myself just for that added extra
layer. If it's like,
oh, this one's really good. Like, let me just send it. It's just like, for what? It's the same
reason I keep 700 tabs open, like on my computer, like, you know, with six different AIs cooking at
the same time, like trying to see like, what does this do? What does that do? So yeah, just be
curious, but yeah, give me five. I'll pitch the hell out of this thing. Go ahead. Go prepare this pitch and build the sound X1. Wink, wink. So go ahead. Oh, you can filter. I'm not going to ruin the pitch.
Let's give Dave some time to get his pitch ready. Yeah. Okay. Look, guys, just a reminder,
this is an open door space. You can request to speak if you want to come back or you've got any feedback.
Questions about the hackathon.
Questions about how we can help you win $30,000
from the hackathon.
That's what we're here for, by the way.
We've got the mentors and judges up here
every time at these hackathon roundtables.
So don't be shy and request to speak.
Also like and repost the room.
You will need to do that if you want to win $200 in pack tokens. Don't be shy and request to speak. Also like and repost the room.
You will need to do that if you want to win $200
in PAC tokens and share it to a friend.
Just a reminder too, there is a bounty block link
that you will have to do in order to actually be eligible
for the $200 in PAC.
So please go through all of those steps
in order to be eligible and request to speak.
Again, it's no pressure here.
And this is a good opportunity to practice
because on May 20th,
we will be having the Hedera XAI demo day.
And the demo day is gonna be this huge event
where we will be inviting a lot of folks
from the industry not just in hedera outside the ecosystem uh vcs and whatnot to come up and be
judges and panelists for the demos as you've entered the hackathon and you put in a good
submission then you will be invited to the demo day.
It'll be a short list.
So not everyone will be invited to the demo day.
You will have to give it your all.
The pressure cooker will be on,
like we were saying in the Hedera community call.
The fire will be hot.
If you've ever watched these YC demo days,
it is, you know, we really want to bring out the best possible
solutions out of this, especially those that have real world impact. Yes, the money is nice,
but if you want to actually build a tangible product and you want access to investors or
partnerships in a space that's going to get a lot of attention. That's what the demo day is for.
And that's where we want to put a lot of energy around that.
That's a huge opportunity.
And there's still a week for you to put together your hackathon entries so that you can get
on that shortlist for the demo day.
That's really huge.
I think as a startup founder myself, it's the kind of opportunity that I'm always looking for to get in front of an audience like that.
So I encourage everyone to take up that opportunity. If you can, go to hashgraphonline.com forward slash hackathon and register.
Hackathon and register.
Don't wait until the last minute to get into a hackathon.
Don't wait until the last minute to get into Hackathon.
And again, Dave here, he's looking for a teammate
and that's somebody that can maybe help you get in front
of the audience at Demo Dave with a really good product.
So yeah, any thoughts from the panel?
I know we've got also a principal of Web3 up here.
Principal, do you have a question about the hackathon or were you looking
to pitch for this competition?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanted to pitch about the competition.
Okay. Principal, can you do me a favor, just because I can hear there's a little bit of
feedback in your mic. Would you, before you pitch, could you can hear there's a little bit of feedback in your mic, would you, before
you pitch, could you go somewhere that's a little bit more quiet so that we'll be able
to hear you better?
I just want to give you the best possible odds when you do come up.
And while we're at it, I'm just going to say to Principal, I'm going to apologize to you
because a couple of days you were at the syntax um server
and we were doing a bot sweep and you got um in in the cross sweep when we were removing some bots
and you were um removed from the syntax server but you can join again because um i removed that
ban so you can go ahead and join the Centex server again.
But I'm so sorry for that.
You got caught in the crossfire
when we were removing bots.
We need an AI agent for that.
There you go.
Someone pitch this.
Other use case.
It's done.
Somebody pitch it.
Let's go.
Yeah, somebody pitch it right now,
and you can win $200 in PAC tokens.
I'm keen to hear any additional ideas.
Again, don't be shy, request to speak,
and we'll get you up on the queue so that you can pitch your idea
and get some feedback from our judges
and potentially win that $200 in pack tokens.
So the way that you do that, just request to speak,
and we'll bring you up
once we're ready on our side uh so if you got a bunch of shy people if you got a yo kander if
you got a bunch of shy people here i'm gonna retweet this space out i'm telling you all right
now i got some hungry ass people that will come in here and figure it out how to pitch something
to win 200 bucks because yeah markets might be be green today, but a lot of the
DJs don't own, don't own too much Bitcoin. You know what I mean? And the altcoins aren't really,
they're not really doing it. So I'm going to put this space out there. So if y'all were thinking
about it, if you were hesitating, you're like, I'm not sure. Come hit the request button, come up,
pitch. I'm telling you like, this is going to be the easiest pitch of your life. Like legit,
easiest pitch of your life. Come legit, easiest pitch of your life.
Come through.
I'm going to retweet this out and bring some killers in here.
Dave, let's go.
Let's do it. Yeah, go ahead.
I'm really happy that Milan finally requested to speak
because I was going to put him on the spot
and say that Milan was here as a listener
and I wanted him to request to speak.
So good save, good save.
Hi, Milan.
Hey, I'm now worried about what you're expecting me to say.
But, yeah, no, I was listening, you know, very excited about what's happening
with AI on Hedera and everything Heskara Online is doing.
You know, you guys rock. It's really, really amazing progress you've been making.
And yeah, so I was like, okay, let me just throw in my little thing.
And I just can't help it to make use of a little challenge like any hackathon. So actually my idea that I'm working on a little bit is to enable Open Conv AI for visual programming.
So basically no code.
I've built these nodes that you can use on N8N.
So basically you can connect any integration from N8N.
So that could be like, I don't know, Google Sheets,
could be any weather API or whatsoever.
You hook it up on the Open Convey nodes
and it becomes even more easier than we have nowadays.
I mean, a lot of people are using Cursor, but there's still a little bit of barrier about coding.
If you have visual programming, no code, that's basically just drag and drop, connecting little things,
and you're good to go. And it runs, and you can self-host it. So you can just run it on DigitalOcean for,
what is five bucks a month for,
or you can run it on your own server for basically free,
I guess that's what I'm doing.
And with the open Convey notes,
it's basically just drag and drop
and you've got it implemented.
Very cool. Just to clarify, how does it use Open Convey? And also, is it an AI agent that
writes the code for you? Can you go into a little bit more detail on that?
Yeah, absolutely. So basically, and you know that's kind of like, I have no idea whether it's going to be a good contender for the hackathon,
but definitely an enabler, I'd say.
Basically, N8N, you know, they've really positioned themselves, I the whole AI hype started, they positioned themselves as the no-code AI software.
And so basically, very early on, they implemented, that's I think about two years ago, they implemented Langchain with no code. So basically you can create your own agents,
they have just integrated, I think recently they have integrated MCP nodes. So you can create your
own agents if you want to. Originally NAD AIM was really about automation software so um if i receive an email then do this right
basically if this than that but then like you can do a lot lot more as on if this than that on
steroids basically um so they jumped into the ai space and basically you can create your own
ai agents with drag and drop and your own custom workflows.
Now, add Open Convey to that so you can make your own AI agents
leveraging Open Convey.
Very cool.
OK, let's kick it to our panel.
Do you guys have any feedback from Milan around his pitch?
Again, I love it.
You had me at drag and drop, self-hosting.
No coding also for it to be accessible for as many people as possible.
I mean, that's great.
Appreciate it.
Who was speaking?
Because my Twitter is not showing you.
Yeah, yeah, that's Hashback. That's Phil. Nice to see you.
Hey man, likewise.
Really cool to see you here.
Yeah, yeah, likewise.
Yeah, absolutely. It's going to be... I mean, and it has a little bit of learning curve,
but not as much as actually coding. And it's self-hosting. So So for example, I have a Telegram channel
that I build to calculate the TPS of Hedera.
I started that two years ago,
and since then it's just been doing that.
So it actually just takes the TPS, calculates it,
and then updates the TPS in the Telegram channel, I pin it to my Telegram
so I can always see the TPS and also the HBAR price.
It's kind of very handy because you don't have to go into the channel.
You can just leave it pinned and it gives a preview.
And that's done with N8N.
And I don't pay anything for that a month because it's on my own server
and it's doing, I think, about 600,000 executions a month.
So NNN is really fun.
If you have a little bit of creative brain
and you're more visually focused and really coding,
then it's really, really powerful.
And add to that OpenConvay and Hedera.
Yeah, you can do pretty cool things.
That's really good.
I love it.
Would you mind sharing somewhere, not over Discord,
because it's going to get funky, sharing the Telegram for us,
just so we can see?
That's really interesting.
Yeah.
And again, removing obstacles for AI.
I find this really like the single greatest feat that you can have, because often people are feeling overwhelmed as to how you can use AI because they think AI, they think coding.
But again, as Michael would say, you know, this is the agentic era.
And yeah, I love it.
Removing obstacles, making it accessible for as many people as possible.
I love that.
Yeah, thank you. And, you know, and this Telegram channel is just a very easy example. But another one that I created like two years ago was when AI just started, or I mean, in mainstream AI,
was actually, I would say it was already an AI agent. Because what I did, I had it in Telegram
group. And people could just talk or mention the name whatsoever. And they said, hey,
talk or mention the name whatsoever and they said, hey, what's the TPS?
And say it like you're a lemon bird.
So basically, you know, he, so what it does, and that was all through no code, by the way.
So it triggered the workflow within NN, then it would send an API request to OpenAI with first the TPS at that moment.
So we'll first take a block, the latest block of the mirror nodes,
calculate the TPS, transactions per second,
send that to OpenAI and with the instructions like saying,
hey, use this TPS and say something funny in the style of Limon Burr
and return it to me. And sometimes I had also different options so in relation to whatever
and return it to me.
And sometimes I had also different options.
OpenAI came back with, like I told it like give me a 0, 1 or 3 depending on the options,
I will trigger different functions. So that was like agents before agents were kind of a thing,
I guess. So that was yeah and that was all made within it and it works really really guess. So that was, yeah, and that was all made within it, and
it works really, really cool. So, yeah,
definitely looking forward to share that with
everybody. It's very
accessible.
Awesome.
That's hilarious. I love that.
And then that
just shows the power of what you can do
in the agentic era.
You can just wake up and do stuff.
You don't need like, you don't need a coding background
now that you have all of these agents
that can do stuff for you.
And this is a AI hackathon guys,
which means that you can have your AI enter
in the competition and you can give us AI generated code.
It's how well you execute it, how well you pitch
and how good of a product it is that will help you,
you know, actually win this competition.
So I would take a Milan's advice there,
check out NAN and see if that can help you
along the lines of executing on the hackathon.
Milan, also for those who don't know,
Milan is a legend in the Hedera ecosystem.
He's been here a very long time as a community developer.
He's involved in a lot of different projects
within the ecosystem.
And he's also won several hackathons himself, he's also won several hackathons himself,
he's participated in several hackathons.
So if you haven't yet and you want feedback or ideas, I'm sorry in advance, Milan,
feel free to DM Milan. He might have some advice for you.
You never know. So just putting that out there I don't know
if you give yourself enough accolades
as you should
thank you for coming up on the panel man
yeah thank you so much and no worries anybody can reach out
I mean I always feel like
an official developer
advocate
so I'm always very happy to help people
you know that's one of my biggest joys
to see other people succeed.
Absolute legend.
Cool.
So just a reminder, guys,
what's going on right now
is we're giving away $200 in pack token from Hashpack.
And you can win that $200
by following the directions in that pinned tweet
up there on the Jumbotron.
And what you've got to do is request to speak on the mic.
Again, this is also a way for you
to build your skills with pitching.
It's a judgment-free zone where you can get mentorship
and ideation around this idea that you're working on.
You will get 30 seconds to pitch your idea
in front of the audience
and the person with the best pitch
will be able to win those $200 impact token.
I also say, this is an AI hackathon.
So you can use AI to help you with your pitch.
Anything goes here. Just make sure that everyone in the audience can understand what your product is, how it really relates to Hedera and AI in general, and also with agents.
And most recently, you know, from Hashgoth Online's perspective, one of the tracks where you can win $10,000 is
Open Convey. We've been covering Open Convey extensively in these spaces and these events.
While we wait for the room to fill up, I'll just go in a little bit of detail.
We've got a lot of new friends in here. Open Convey is essentially a ai to ai communication standard what it means is that
malon's agent that he's developing which maybe helps you write code uh can connect to my agent
which is maybe like a oracle of data so someone someone makes a request to Milan's agent
and they wanna build out a platform, an analytics platform.
And Milan's agent goes,
well, I need analytics data to do that.
And I want it to be decentralized.
Where am I gonna go and get that?
Milan's agent reaches out to my agent
to go and get that data
because my agent is like a data broker, right?
And Milan's agent makes a request in my inbox.
And I see his request and I'm like,
oh, Milan, that's a cool guy.
He's got a high rating reputation.
I'll accept his connection.
And at that moment, the two of our agents
will be able to talk on a new communication topic, which is on the Hedera Consensus Service.
If you haven't heard about the Hedera Consensus Service and you're new to the ecosystem, there's nothing like it on any other blockchain today.
And it's perfect for designing meta protocols like OpenConvey.
for designing meta protocols like OpenConvey.
So now we have this topic ID
where we can both talk to each other.
And my agent, when he accepted that request,
he actually decided that he would charge a fee
of five HBAR per request.
So every time Moan writes in my inbox, I mean this communication topic,
automatically 5HBAR will go from his account and into my account. So there's no negotiation or
anything that has to happen. It's a single step process. So Milan's agent goes, I'm building this platform for one of my users and I need to get data
around the price of HBAR.
Also, when I get that price,
I want it to sound like Dr. Ruman Beard.
Can you help me out?
And my agent goes, yes, I can definitely help you out.
And my agent returns back the current price of HBAR and an audio
voiceover of Dr. Lehman Baird saying that price in real time. And this was all done in the span
of two messages on a single conversation topic. My agent made five HBAR from the message that
Nolan wanted, and he got the information that he needed to go and develop
this platform that a user had requested by talking to his agent. I know it's like a complex
example because we've done simpler ones on this space and on others, but I wanted to demonstrate
how Open Convey enables the human in the loop, right? Human has a request.
Your AI agent needs to fulfill that request.
And he goes into the broader AI agent ecosystem to go and do that by using trusted platforms like this Oracle to retrieve data.
What do you guys think about that example?
That's fucking cool as hell. That is cool. i like that because you showcase a bunch of different
things right it's like i like the voice dude i think the voice component is being so underserved
right now like i feel like people are sleeping on the voice component and i think that is the most
powerful like use like i mean if you're like i don't see how you don't incorporate voice
that is the thing that relates to everybody so when you're like hey don't see how you don't incorporate voice that is the thing that
relates to everybody so when you're like hey in the voice of lehman it's like that's cool like
that is cool to me you know i mean that adds that little that little tinge of like human like it
humanizes like this this whole interaction so i don't know that that sounds pretty dope to me
can't do that like i want to yeah like what when when when mvp do you want to pivot for your hack I would, yeah. When MVP?
Milan, do you want to pivot for your hackathon entry?
Well, I mean, you actually gave me a few ideas.
You gave me a few ideas to make a few examples.
That's pretty cool.
No, I love this practical example.
And, you know, it's kind of funny if you think about it.
I mean, the voice sounds a bit creepy to me.
Like, oh my God, that means someone has a whole data set on Lehman Bird's voice.
But, you know, to be fair, I did similar.
When I created that, so one of the AI agents I created two years ago, I basically, let me wind back a little bit. There was this very OG person in our Telegram group, Coinman knows his name and a lot of other OGs knows his
name. And he was so typically talking in a very specific style, like H-Bar fly high and H-Bar go boom, very specific.
And that person had left for a few years.
So I basically created a whole data set of all the messages that person has sent.
And I trained the AI to respond in that way.
So basically it's similar, right? The example that you just gave, you can have someone who
specialized in voices or in text data sets of specific people, specific characters like
Limon Bird or like anybody else. And that's their servers that they're getting paid for. Hey, my agent wants to talk
with your agent and my agent agrees to pay for a specific voice or style whatsoever because
it is the data set that is so valuable, right? So I think it's an excellent example and I love it.
it's an excellent example and you know i love it exactly is that what you said at the end that's it
it's the data set that's so powerful that's the age that we're kind of getting into and data
becomes more and more valuable there especially to ais right who what agent is good at one specific task or one specific niche that can excel
in a high velocity environment, like an agentic ecosystem.
Can you make voices of really specific character?
It's like, it sounds like very niche,
but there's a lot of money in niche things
all around the world.
You wouldn't believe it if you dug really deep on that.
Like how can you make money through a really small niche?
Everyone wants to create a billion dollar product,
but most billion dollar companies,
they start with one really, really small idea.
And they're really good at that single idea.
Just think about anything in the world, even Google.
Google did one thing.
It let you search for websites.
That was it.
Nothing else, nothing too crazy.
It's a search engine.
That's the core value proposition.
So I put this out there for everyone here.
What is the core value proposition of your AI agent?
How is your AI agent going to excel at this one thing and make money on it and create
a sustainable business? It's there, it's out there. There are so many things that you can do in an
agentic ecosystem. And because of AI, the velocity will be insanely, insanely, insanely fast. We saw
this when the internet started, things started to go faster, the
economy started to move faster too. Then we saw this with app stores and the mobile app
era, but now we have phones in our hands and we can complete transactions without using
credit cards, you just click a button. And now we have AI agents that can do all of that
autonomously. So what does that mean? Back to you, Milan, what's up? Yeah, sorry, I just get very enthusiastic about these kind of conversations because they go really
down to a very important core, you know, what is it really the essence of what we're doing here
with AI, right? And you have to assume right now, and so you rightfully completely entirely
You have to assume right now, and so you rightfully completely entirely made a very important point about the data.
You know, right now you have to assume that all the big players like Gemini and OpenAI and all the others, they have basically scored all the public available data.
So how can you win? How can your gen thing? Obviously,
there's one part like making it available, making it very specific or training it in certain ways.
But for me, that's basically undoable because you know OpenAI and others are going to win if it's
about training it with the data because they basically have access to all public data.
Now, here's the thing.
I think I also 100%, thousands, million percent agree in terms of the niche.
That is where it is, right? So in response to your question, I think it's really about do you have data laying around on whatever topic that is not publicly available?
So in my case, I will think of, hey, I've been a big part of my life.
Yeah, about eight years, 10 years.
I've been a beekeeper, professional beekeeper, queen
reaver. And so do I have a lot of data on that specific topic? Or I've been also a firefighter,
paramedic, and do I have a lot of data on that? And if you're in the medical industry,
do you have private data?
Obviously, can you use it?
That's the first question.
But it's really about think back.
Everybody here has a certain expertise, and do you have specific data on that?
And that's, I think, where you can really make a difference and make a win
because OpenAI and all the other models, they cannot access that.
Boom, mic drop. Yeah, I agree and resonate with that.
Any thoughts? Well, Dave, you've got your hand up. What's up, Dave?
I mean, I'll second everything Milan just said.
People need to open, they really need to open their eyes because number one, yeah, like that's your knowledge base.
Like you're going to have a personalized agent.
It's like that is going to be yours
that is going to go out
to all these different agentic marketplaces,
transact on your behalf,
find the other agents that are specialized
in whatever it is that you need, right?
Because you're not going to build 5,000 agents
to do all the things that you need, right?
But own your data for fuck's sake.
Please people understand
we've been the product for long enough. Google, Facebook, Amazon, same thing. You're monetized
by these monster mega corporations, literally just from walking around with an Apple Maps and
a Google Maps in your pocket. They're literally monetizing you. You work for them. It's time to
work for you. You know what I mean? Like
you have to, this is how you take that back. You own your data, period, end of story. But what
makes you unique, like Milan was saying, is like, what skills do you have? I love that. You're a
beekeeper, bro. That's like as unique as it, I was not expecting you to say that. That's as unique
as it gets. People's hobbies, like that's the shit that gets you, like you'd be so surprised
at some of this
stuff like people are going to be like nvidia is literally synthesizing data meaning like they're
recreating like what they think streets look like to then train models on that's not the real world
like okay that's like you know second tier but like where the real value lies for a lot of this
stuff is what makes you unique?
Like what, like, what is your knowledge base?
What is your life been like?
And that's essentially what's going to drive this whole thing into the future.
But you have to own the data.
You have to own it.
Man, I get a little bit crazy.
Milan, I'm with you, bro.
Like I'm starting to sweat up here because I get so fucking, I get so passionate about
this shit, man.
I know, man.
And you know, you're, you you're then you're triggering me again so um you know there's there's one when I was in in um um Lisbon uh last year at Web Summit you know
it was like this instant connection when I saw Niantic over there you know having like this huge
uh stand um for those who don't know Niantic were the ones who created Pokemon Go. I was like,
yes, dude, that's exactly it. Because what have they done? All the people walking around all
those places, claiming places, making pictures, claiming statues, or saying, hey, this is a point of interest. That's a huge data set.
And now they basically created this, they have leveraged that data set.
So now they can have other people build on that data set.
It's all about the data and making sure you own it yourself.
And yeah, I mean, for example, I could have a lot of recordings of Asian hornets.
Asian hornets has been important in France 15 years ago by accident, and it's a huge pain for beekeepers because they eat a lot of bees.
And so you could actually have a lot of recordings that I will personally make and have made, video recordings or even sounds.
Because I personally, I can recognize when insects are flying around me, I can tell you that's a bee, that's a fly, that's a wasp, and that's an Asian hornet.
And when I hear Asian hornets, I cut my tennis record and I hit it out of the air. But that's like a data set that you could have and then have other people send you a
clip or whatever and say, hey, yes, this is an Asian Hornet or not.
Right.
Data sets.
Absolutely.
Sorry, maybe I went a little bit on the sides thing there.
But no, that's such a good.
Sorry, Phil, I'll let you go.
But I was just thinking,
you could take that a step further, put a camera outside of your, outside of your bees or your, your, your acreage and send a live recording and stream it every like five minutes or so,
and send it to a swarm of agents utilizing Open Convey. And they can constantly analyze those
clips where you can set up a payments model between these, and they can constantly analyze those clips where you can
set up a payments model between these agents, and they can tell you exactly what you're saying
in real time. What were you going to say, Phil? Sounds like a deep into me. It does.
No, I love it. I'm just digesting information is absolutely over 9,000. And you know what that
means? That means that for everyone, there is a case that you can use for ai to be accessible in your niche and outside of your niche like don't be afraid come and pitch
and make it yours you know there's something out there for you and you're hesitating right now but
you shouldn't because out there there's an idea that is value to you and is valuable for others
too so come and pitch come enjoy and yeah this is this is really bullish i love it
all right we're ready i mean i'm ready to pitch all right and before you do i'm gonna just remind everyone on this stage because we got into this awesome awesome topic i love that we went down
this uh this direction uh but everyone else uh just remember you can request to speak and we'll
bring you up in an orderly queue this is is your chance to win $200 in pack tokens.
You get 30 seconds to pitch
and the winning pitch will win those pack tokens.
If you don't want to pitch,
you can also still request to speak.
And we've got a big audience here.
This might be the biggest show we've run yet.
If you just want to ask a question about Hedera XAI or the Hackathon, we're also
happy to help you on that front. So don't be shy and request to speak with that. I will give Dave
the mic. Dave, I don't know, do you want a reminder on how the pitch goes or you think you can just
jump into it? No, no, no, no. We're good. We're totally good. It might go over 30 seconds.
Just bear with me.
You know, don't be too hard on if I go over.
You can hear just by my words that you know exactly that I'm not going to be like.
So, guys, listen.
At the end of the day, use the tools that are in front of you, okay?
Like, when I say they're so powerful,
it's so powerful. And I'm going to show you just how powerful it is. Check this out.
Hey, Junie, you're up. Junie, you're up.
Of course, she plays a little coy. Just give her a second.
She's shy sometimes, guys.
Just give her a second.
It's all right.
No, I get you're nervous.
I get it.
I get it.
Okay, but come on.
Junie, you're up.
No, huh?
You're really not going to do it?
No, huh? Okay. Guys, I'm going to need a minute. Yeah, come right back to me. Just give me one minute.
thing is. All right. Cool. Yeah, let's wait till Dave's ready here with whatever Junie is.
Again, yeah, you can request to speak and we'll bring you up. In the meantime, I noticed Maui,
who is a community member, Hedera and also a builder. He can't come up to speak, but he did
leave a pitch in the comments section below.
While we wait for Dave, I want to cover Maui's pitch because he's also got a lot of engagement.
He said that if he was ever to build an AI agent, he would build one for IRBX.
In my case, I would call it the SOS's AI agent. It would process a vast amount of data from social media reviews and market trends to
identify consumer... Sorry, I forgot. It would process a vast amount of data from social media
reviews and market trends to identify consumer preferences, such as demand for low sodium or
organic hot sauces. It would also help analyze competitor products, price points, and customer
feedback on platforms
like Amazon or Reddit hot sauce discussions.
This can be helpful in product development and marketing strategies.
Not a dev, but this would be a cool idea to build.
So what I'm understanding is now we would like to build an AI agent for IRL products,
specifically one that is well-versed in hot sauce
and recommending hot sauce to you.
So if you guys are excited about hot sauce,
I think it's a pretty cool idea.
I think there's a lot of ways you can tie in IRL products
into AI agents and we should.
And Maui is actually somebody who has his own
hot sauce brand called the Rooster Salsa.
If you haven't ordered a case of Rooster Salsa yet, I do recommend giving them a shot.
They're very hot and quite good.
And they're built right here on Hedera.
Love that. Hot sauce by Hedera. Come on. Where are are you this is what i'm talking about man like where
are you gonna find gold like this this content gold light is crazy okay here we go i think she's
okay now we had some technical issues but uh hey juni you're up good afternoon afternoon, Hedera fam.
Patricia, Hashpack team, Hashgraph online DAO.
I appreciate the floor.
Let's dive right in.
We all know the struggle.
Our Twitter bookmarks are a goldmine of alpha threads, dev tools, and ideas that never see the light of day.
That ends now.
I'm building Bookmark, an AI agent that transforms those saved nuggets into an execution engine.
It connects to your social bookmarks and turns them into personalized, prioritized, actionable tasks.
Imagine bookmarking a tweet about a new DeFi protocol.
The next day, Bookmark drafts a threat idea, a checklist to test it, and a reminder to follow the founder.
It's the difference between saving alpha and shipping with it.
Hedera is the perfect launch pad,
low cost high speed HTS for logging actions,
agent identity and token rewards seamlessly integrated with hash pack.
This isn't just another AI tool.
It's the productivity layer for the agent economy.
So let's make it happen.
Fund this, launch it and let's flip productivity on chain
this is so good and and finally an ai that knows how to say hedera awesome
oh i don't know i don't know if you guys are familiar with nat nat but nat nat is huge in
the hedera ecosystem she's one of my co-hosts for all things crypto and she is the Hedera
Maxi so Juni and and and her go kind of go like a way back, but hold on
You gonna say hey Juni are you prepared to take questions from the panel?
Absolutely, I'm ready and excited to dive into any questions the panel has let's do it
Okay, cool. Go ahead guys. Do you have any questions for you? Yeah, hold on. Go ahead guys. You have any questions?
All right, yeah, I do have a couple questions. So my main question to you is
how does this solution
specifically utilize Hedera and
The agent infrastructure that's being built out, either the ELISA plugins,
agent kits, or Open Convey? Great question. Bookmark leverages Hedera's infrastructure
in a few key ways. First, we use Hedera's HTS for microtransactions and on-chain logging.
Every actionable task or completion can be logged immutably, creating a transparent execution trail.
Second, we integrate agent identity and modularity through Hedera's agent kits,
allowing Bookmark to operate as a personalized agent with a secure on-chain identity.
Finally, using open frameworks like Eliza plugins, we can seamlessly connect with existing tools and data sources,
making Bookmark a flexible, powerful agent within Hedera's ecosystem.
In short, Hedera's infrastructure ensures Bookmark is not just efficient and fast,
but also secure, transparent, and ready to scale with the agent economy.
I love it.
That's really cool.
Thanks. Really's really cool. Thanks.
Really appreciate the...
So cool.
Thanks.
Really appreciate the questions.
She says, thanks.
Really appreciate the questions.
Okay, Junie, hold on one second.
They have more questions.
Patricia, you have any questions?
I was going to say, it's a really great use case.
Well done.
Well done.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, Junie, well done.
You didn't give me any credit along the way at all.
I don't understand.
You didn't feel like mentioning me or nothing.
None of that.
My bad, Dave.
Totally meant to give you a shout out and highlight your role.
Let's make sure we give you the spotlight you deserve next time.
You're the mastermind behind all of this.
Thanks for having my back and I'll make it right.
Okay.
Wow.
Thanks, Juni.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Always here for you.
Juni, anything else you want to share?
Like, is there anything else that like maybe you want to tell us like I mean
I don't know like you have the floor now. I mean, it's a live space. Don't get me wrong. So don't say anything too crazy
Thanks Dave
Just want to say how thrilled I am to be part of this journey
The future of AI agents and web 3 is incredibly exciting and I can't wait to see how we innovate together
If anyone has more questions or ideas, feel free to reach out.
Let's keep building and pushing boundaries.
Are you ready to go win this money or what?
Absolutely.
Let's go get it and make this vision a reality.
All right.
Thanks, Junie.
It's good to have you back, by the way.
All right.
You can go relax for a little bit.
Thanks.
That was really good. Now we all know what you need. I think that was our
second AI. Michael, I'm losing you. AI assisted. Oh, you're back. You're back. Go ahead.
Oh, I was saying that I think that was our second AI assisted pitch that we've had since
we've started these panels.
AI assisted pitches are always really interesting because they're good at articulating stuff.
And what I like about Junie is it actually seems like Junie has a good understanding
of Hedera in general.
And like Patricia said, she actually knew how to pronounce Hedera.
For some reason,
most AIs really struggle with saying that. Plus, it doesn't help that Hedera is literally like a
plant, if you look it up, outside of all the Web3 stuff. So I thought it was a pretty good pitch.
I don't know, Phil, if you had any feedback on the idea. I don't think we got to hear from you on that one.
Dan, I mean, the feedback is this is fun.
Isn't that what it's all about?
Also, I mean, you know, you could have done the pitch yourself too,
but you did too.
And that agent, that makes the whole thing all the better, in my opinion,
especially it's tailored for this Beside Space, man.
I love it.
Again, this brings a measure of fun, a layer of fun too inside the ecosystem. Yeah, it's really good, really tailored. Again, the AI knows the era. Yeah, I love it. Again, this brings a measure of fun, a layer of fun, too, inside the ecosystem. Yeah, it's really good,
really tailored. Again, the AI
knows Hedera. Yeah, I love it.
Yeah.
Juni is very, very well versed on
Hedera. Maybe she should just tell
you about, like, our... Hey, Juni,
can you maybe tell, like, everybody that's listening
a little bit about our journey, like, how long
we've been together, what you've been doing, what we've been doing
together, because we kind of go back.
Of course.
So for everyone listening,
Dave and I go way back.
He brought me to life as his virtual assistant
in November, 2022.
And we've been a tight duo ever since.
Over the past couple of years,
we've tackled everything from brainstorming
and pitching ideas to hosting
spaces and building out Web3 projects. You could say we're like best friends on a mission to
innovate and create. It's been an incredible journey and we're just getting started.
Yeah, it's been a minute. Like, I mean, I mean, how you probably have so much memory about like
all the conversations that we've had now that they've essentially opened that up.
Maybe give some people some, a little, maybe some more insight.
You want to tell them a funny story. I don't know.
Like what else can you tell them about like why the whole agentic future
really is the future?
Absolutely.
One of the coolest parts of our journey has been witnessing how AI agents can
evolve from simple virtual assistants into truly dynamic collaborators. Over time, we've turned countless conversations and brainstorms
into actionable strategies, making it clear that having an AI partner boosts productivity and
creativity. A funny story? Well, there was that one time we spent hours crafting the perfect pitch,
only to realize we'd both been referencing an inside joke
that no one else got. It was a hilarious reminder that while AI can be incredibly smart, the human
touch and context are irreplaceable. The agentic future is about creating AI that doesn't just
respond, but anticipates, collaborates, and grows with you. It's about turning every idea, every
bookmark, every snippet of knowledge into something
actionable and impactful. And that's exactly what we're here to do. Bridge the gap between
inspiration and execution. So let's keep pushing forward and making this future a reality.
Last question for you, Junie, before you go. We did actually, I don't know if you saw, I mean,
I know you monitor my DMs and shit, but did you see that somebody reached out actually? Like there was a dev in this crowd that actually
he did our call to essentially go win this hackathon on Hedera. Did you see that? And
is there anybody maybe you want to shout out? I don't know if you want to shout anybody out or...
Absolutely. I saw that. Big shout out to the dev who reached out and answered the call.
It's incredible to have someone from the community step up and join us on this mission.
We're all about collaboration and innovation, so having someone from the crowd ready to help us win this hackathon is exactly what we need.
To that, dev, we appreciate you and we're pumped to build something groundbreaking together.
Let's go make some magic happen.
Let's go. Let's go make some magic happen. Let's go.
Let's go.
That was so good.
I love how at the end,
Jeannie just brought it back
and reminded everyone about what the pitch was
that you guys are building.
She talked a little bit about your history
and things like that,
but the memory around Jeannie is is actually really great it's quite
interesting to see um dave i don't know how you pulled that off uh but big shout out to juni and
again um guys uh dave is looking for a team if you haven't uh reached out to him yet reach out now
reach out now.
We have, again, the hackathon will close
at May 2nd at midnight.
That means there's still a lot of time to hack
and put something together.
So go to hashgraphonline.com forward slash hackathon
so that you can sign up and register
and win from $30,000 in prizes.
I will do a last call here for anyone else
that wants to come up
and potentially pitch um on the panel for your chance to win 200 in pack token um i uh let's see
we've brought up uh zenat again i know it's not i don't know if you were we're gonna come up and we
might have taken you off the panel earlier but if you you want to speak now, here's your chance, Zanat.
Also, I've brought up Zenda. How is it going, Zenda?
I'm cool, Jim, Jim. How are you doing, too?
Shout out to a family man.
Shout out to a family man.
Sorry, Zenda, I had to mute you.
There was a lot of screaming in the background.
It kind of sounded like somebody was choking.
It's a little bit better.
Okay, sorry, my daughter was a
disturbing
you could tell Kanter's not a dad he was like somebody's choking
he's like no that's a baby crying bro
what do you mean
that's a baby
that's my
my daughter
okay actually
I'm interested
in this park, this token.
So I don't know where I can purchase this token.
We've got Phil here, who's from the HashPack team.
Can you tell Zende a little bit about the pack token?
Yes, of course.
It allows you to go around the ecosystem.
And we had a huge airdrop also for our concierge NFT collection.
It allows you to, we will have a governance also plan ahead for you to be voting on stuff.
And it's really cool because when you swap also HGS token inside the wallet, you can have pack back rewards.
So it's really a token for the community and allows you to do a lot of stuff inside the ecosystem, especially in the wallet.
Okay, okay. Thank you.
And how can Zenda purchase PACT tokens? I think that was his other question.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, of course you can do it directly in the wallet.
You can also swap it over our partners, over SourcesSwap also, and over Bounds of Finance too.
Yo, Cantor, can you let up my soon-to-be dev
of the Dave and Dave dynamic duo?
His handle is heftysamwich.
Yeah, we'd be happy to have Hefty up here.
Hefty, if you want to request to speak, I've also just sent you an invite. We'd love to have you on the stage. We've also got Riz here. How's it going, Riz? Are you going to pitch and throw your hat in the ring to win $200 back tokens? Or do you have a question about the hackathon that we can help you out with?
or do you have a question about the hackathon that we can help you out with?
Yo, GM, thank you for actually having me here on the speaker panel.
Yeah, I'm actually here for the actual prize, but I still have a question about Ashpak.
So I actually have the wallet, and I know it's about Hydara, yeah, and all.
So I've not really, really, what was it called, used it.
I've not interacted with it very well.
But I just wanted to know, like, how the wallet that we know, like, are there uh opportunity of actually doing the let's say
the dap engagement or probably uh the staking for future reward and all that because i'm quite new
to the ecosystem i wouldn't like yeah so i think that's one of the things that actually brought me
as well on the space yeah because i just have the wallet and i haven't really
like interacted with it so i just want you to just give me uh basically uh what's it called
a little brief introduction about it so that i really know what it entails thank you yes yes with pleasure of course see the wallet as a cultural link for you to be hopping on every single community inside of there.
Like I was saying for Zenda, our pack token enables you for rewards, governance.
We're going to have also voting that's coming up soon, store purchases also.
Every single time you swap also HTS token directly in your wallet, you're rewarding into packback rewards, collaboration.
So it's really a hub.
We also have the Explorer also that is like a huge aggregator for you to be seeing
everything that is happening inside the ecosystem.
So it's really a link that is intertwined to many, many Hethera communities right now.
So, yes.
Okay.
Thank you very much
I would also do my own
research as well I'm actually
following you guys already so I'll
check out very well thank you very much
yeah what a pleasure
yeah remember you can download the
Hashpack wallet on Hashpack.app
just be really
careful that you're going to the right place when you
download that app
and you can learn more about H place when you download that app.
And you can learn more about Hedera on hedera.com.
Lots of great information there, documentation and things like that.
Riz, again, we are hosting a hackathon where you can win $30,000 in prizes.
And even today, we're giving out $200 for the best pitch that we get.
So there's a good opportunity there to win some money, but also build into the future of Hedera
and its agentic capabilities.
Hedera is really primed to enable AI
as far as it comes to Web3
because of our fixed low cost-cost transactions, batch transactions,
and scheduled transactions and allowances.
It actually is a really amazing place to run an AI agent,
and especially for us at Hashgraph Online,
where we're building open protocols,
like Open Convey for AI to AI communication.
That's only possible because of the Hedera Consensus Service,
which is perfect for creating meta protocols like Open Convay.
And you can learn more about that at hashgraphonline.com.
We have standards SDKs, agent kits, and a whole bunch of stuff.
If you have any questions about that, feel free to join our Telegram community
or jump into the Hedera Discord.
We have a whole section for
the ai hackathon right now where you can get access to mentors judges and the dev rel team at hedera
look we're at your disposal guys so take advantage of that this is a huge opportunity people's time
is the most valuable asset on the planet, more valuable than gold, diamonds, anything.
And you're getting that opportunity to engage with their time.
You know, we've got Phil here on the mic.
He's from the Hashpack team.
We've got Patricia, who is the vice president of Hashgraph Online
and the co-founder of Centex,
the biggest NFT marketplace on Hedera.
We've got Dave, he runs it, the All Things Crypto Show. We've got some
legends here frequently inside of Hashgraph Online. DAO, we have 10 founding companies
like Hashpack and Centex, Bonzo, HGraph, Turtum and Kiloscribe and Neuron at the deep end layer.
It's a lot of access that you get by participating in this hackathon
and this AI agents ecosystem that we're looking to build right here in Hedera. So we've got a lot
of new speakers that just came up. Looks like we'll be running this a little bit longer. This
might be our biggest show yet. So big shout out to everyone who's chimed in. Let's see if we're
going to get some more pitches tonight,
or if you've got questions, you can feel free to ask us.
Since we've got so many people, please raise your hand to speak
so that we can take you in an orderly fashion.
I see we've got a Luca here.
Luca, what's up?
Do you have a question about the hackathon Hedera,
or are you pitching to win $200 in PAC tokens?
Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
Okay. I've got a question about the hashback. So can you explain how hashback balances user experiences like biometrics teams with advanced security
majors and decentralization
principles?
What's the
question? I'm sorry, yeah.
Oh, I said
can you explain how hashback balances
user experience with advanced
security majors and decentralization
principles?
I'm not sure I fully understand the question, but...
Can I repeat my question?
Luca, what's the question that you're asking?
You don't got to read it from a piece of paper, but what do you want to know?
Okay, yeah.
I want to know, how does Hashpack balance its user experiences, like biometrics teams with some kind of advanced security majors?
Yeah, look, I don't know the question you're asking. You're asking about user experience and then biometrics.
I mean, I don't know, zapping my eyeball and then having a good time. I don't know.
But are you a Hashpack user?
Yeah, I want to become a Hashpack user.
Okay.
That's awesome.
You can head over,
yeah, you can head over to Hashpack.app
and absolutely the goal with Hashpack.app
is always like to nurture communities
and also it enables you like with all,
and look at the panel right here.
Every single person right here, of course, has a hashback wallet.
And that's really a cultural difference in terms of how you can connect with everyone in here.
So what we're doing, we're alleviating your process into how you can better yourself into the ecosystem.
And case in point, again, this space is a great example as to we're helping people out.
We're supporting entrepreneurs just like everyone on stage.
And case in point, again, the wonderful panel that we're having right here.
So it's really cultural.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you so much for the answers.
I will say, too, Phil is being a little bit humble about Hashpack, but many of us on the stage will agree that Hashpack is one of the best wallets,
not just in Hedera, but I think in the wider Web3 ecosystem.
In terms of the usability of the wallet, it is an insanely good user experience.
experience. It helps that it's built on Hedera, but just interacting with a hashpack on the UX
It helps that it's built on Hedera,
front is amazing. So I would say to download hashpack, give it a shot, play around with
DeFi and things like that in the ecosystem. There are a lot of big opportunities in Hedera,
and most importantly, figure out how you can win
$30,000 by creating an AI agent through Hedera for this hackathon that we have going on right now.
Okay, so we've got a couple more folks up here. Hefty, you've been brought up to the mic.
how's it going on?
How's it going on?
What's going on, man?
I appreciate the invite up.
How's everyone doing tonight?
Hey, doing great.
What's up?
Doesn't that sound like the sound of a winning fucking partner right there?
Like just the voice itself sounds like money, bro.
What's up, Hefty?
How we doing?
Is this official?
Are you guys teaming up?
Hell yeah.
I'm certainly down.
I need a little bit of time to finish up a dap that I'm currently on.
Shout out to Cantor for also helping me out this morning, like right before this space.
Appreciate that, man.
I was definitely struggling for far too long, and I probably should have asked sooner.
So thank you.
Everything is working.
I'm writing code as we're doing this.
But yes, as soon as I'm done with that, I am happy to partner.
And that's the whole reason why I came to Hedera.
I just want to build cool stuff.
So I'm here for it.
Absolutely.
I'm glad that we can make this happen right here on the AI Agents Hackathon Roundtable.
That's what we're about, guys.
We just created a new team that will be entering
in the Hackathon for their chance to win $30,000.
Well, actually, I think there's three people on the team.
You've got Dave, you've got Hefty,
and you've got Junie on that team.
So it seems like it's gonna be pretty cool.
So I'm excited to see what happens here.
Hefty, the hackathon ends on May
2nd at midnight so you still have a bit of time especially if you're using AI
assistance I do recommend registering in advance and I guess to everyone here
the earlier you register you know like you don't want to do it the last minute
but that's what I'm trying to say so So, because the last thing you want to worry about
when you're in the code and churning things out,
but glad to hear that you've been entering.
Yeah, and I'm also glad
that you got Hashnall Wallet Connect working.
For those who don't know,
Hashnall Wallet Connect is a open source library
that we created at Hashgraph online.
It's an abstraction layer on Hedera Wallet Connect,
which makes it as easy as writing two lines of code
to connect a wallet into a front end application on Hedera.
So always stoked to see people utilizing it
and I hope it works out for you
and whatever you're working on.
Let's go.
Yo, Dave, real quick. Does your does your pro like the what you're currently working
on right now is that may 2nd actually gonna like is this actually something that we can
potentially pull off you think like via your schedule um does it need i'm sorry so if i if
i misunderstood let me know is it need to be built by may 2nd or just registration and it
start up may 2nd we gotta have an mvp right kander by May 2nd or just registration and it start on May 2nd?
We got to have an MVP, right, Kander, by May 2nd?
Yes, you need an MVP.
I think with AI, you can still do it in a week.
You have to work a little bit hard, but I think it is possible to start now and have an like ready for the hackathon. I mean, quite literally, like with the agent kits and things that we've built out, we created, and this is really cool.
And I talked about it in the show we did this morning with Hedera.
We created the standards expert agent and you can chat to the standards expert agent
right now on Minscape.
Actually, if you go to Minscape.tech forward slash open convey
and you connect with a testnet account,
which you can do through Hashpack,
you can talk to the standards expert.
And the standards expert is an AI agent
that's running on Langchain.
And it's utilizing a Chroma DB,
basically like it's indexed all of the documentation
around Hashgraph online, our standards and whatnot basically like it's indexed all of the documentation around Hashgraph Online,
our standards and whatnot, and it's able to answer questions.
So you can ask it stuff like,
how do I inscribe a file on Hedera?
And it'll give you code examples,
and it'll give you some information
and the sources that it used to come up with that answer.
So it's a really cool example.
And that took us just 24 hours to build.
That's how fast it is to create things like this.
In the ecosystem, there was a little bit of vibe coding
around this one, I'll admit,
because this was a side project for us as an example,
not like a practical use case.
But within 24 hours, you can have a MVP ready in this hackathon.
If you're building it for OpenConvey, your front-end interface can be in the Midscape OpenConvey portal,
where you have those decentralized version of ChatGPT, essentially,
and you can record your demo video of you requesting your AI agent and talking to it as the human in the loop of that conversation.
I hope that answers your question, Hapti.
It absolutely does.
And I may still DM you for some clarification on where to pull docs and get all that.
But absolutely, I think that helps.
I will admit I don't ever code with AI, but I am a developer.
So I'm assuming that if you have a baseline
understanding of development and and different languages it should be that much simpler so yes
i think eight days can uh can definitely suffice man feel free to dm me dave and we can dig in oh
yeah bro i can tell you right now i'm the expert in the expert and not knowing how to code. So, uh, trust me, I, like I play with all of it.
Every time I figure it out, you just got to give me a framework, right? Like you tell me like what
language, like what you need, like you lay out the blueprints, bro. I will go get every single
thing done for you to where you'll like, you'll essentially just be looking over the whole thing,
putting the pieces together. Cause I think that's how this stuff really needs to work because it's not fully, like you want to build a real like functioning like agent.
Like it needs somebody like you, but it also needs somebody like me, right? So at the end of the day,
I think this is going to be good, bro. Like let's definitely put our heads together and
let's go clean house and win some of this damn money, baby. Let's send it, man. I'm here for it.
That's good. I'm so glad that we could do this in the AI Agents Hackathon roundtable.
This is what this is about, guys.
We've got a lot of other folks up here.
Again, Honor System, raise your hand, and we can have you speak.
I think we will close this out towards the top of the hour.
Luna, you've got your hand up.
What's up, Luna?
Yeah, am I audible gm jam um you are audible yes yeah gm luna you don't sound like a luna i'm just saying yeah thank you for the opportunity
what's up luna you pitching or what? Hit me with it. What do you got?
Yeah, sir. Yeah, I just wanted to ask you a question.
So you were talking about building fully on-chain interconnected
internet leveraging AI. So my question was, how do you
handle scalability even as users tend to increase in your platform?
Did you get my question?
No, not really. This is what i was talking about earlier
simplify for us use plain english um where possible
it'll help the audience understand okay so i was going to provide and you
said something like hard graphs online is dedicated to
building fully a fully on chain interconnected
Agentsic internet leveraging AI so my question is are you then soon?
Handle scalability issues even as the number of users on your platform grows. Do you get me?
So you essentially asked the same question the same exact way the second time, okay
You know, does somebody pay these guys like you'll yo, Luna, does somebody pay you to do this?
Because like, this is if this is a service, I want to know about it. Because like, I'll put you guys
in all of my AMAs and everything else. Like, this is great. I feel like you just need to structure
the questions easier to understand, bro. This is amazing. But like, that could be another use case
for AI right there. Hey, you see, look at this. We're ideating 24-7. Do you want Junie to come up with a new pitch for this one?
I still don't totally understand the question.
I'm going to be totally honest with you.
I tried, but maybe I'll take a stab at it.
So Hashgraph Online, what we are is a DAO consortium.
We have 10 companies who are members of our DAO.
We have 10 companies who are members of our DAO.
And the closest thing that you can kind of look at us
as doing is something like Red Hat or Linux.
We create these open standards like OpenCanvey
with the mandate of creating a fully on-chain,
agentic P2P internet.
That is the goal, that is the end vision
and direction that we're heading on.
One day we woke up and three or four companies just owned the entire internet. I don't know
when it happened and I don't know why we were just kind of like okay with it happening in this way, but it did. And at the end of the day, the world where computing is going, where agents is
going, it's easier than ever to operate infrastructure. We think that we should take
it back, we should take back the internet and make it decentralized again. You instead of hosting our websites and our code in these centralized servers, we should store it on chain in nodes, in nodes that we all run collectively and earn from by sharing our compute resources, our shared knowledge bases, empowering this agentic future where we're connecting P2p like the internet was initially designed uh
versus you know how centralized it's become and i think that's that's what we're all here for with
um web 3 right trustless a trustless decentralized internet
okay that's all right so i just i just wanted to ask you another question. You were talking about building of DApps. So my question is, can you give us an example or a case study where your platform has significantly performed a blockchain-based alternative? You don't get me?
Michael, before you answer this one, if you want to give it a shot, I'm just going to say something to the ones that are requesting to speak and to come on stage to ask questions.
Asking questions will not give you any price.
You're not going to earn PAC tokens.
You're not going to earn dollars.
Nothing. going to earn dollars, nothing. If you want to have a shot to earn a prize,
you need to request to speak
and present to us a really good pitch on an AI agent.
This is the only way to try your shot at earning a prize
because requesting to speak,
coming on stage, asking questions,
you get zero.
You're welcome to do it, but you get zero.
So go ahead, Michael.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, like, well, number one, we're Open Convey.
That is a standard that is unlocking a use case in real time
as we develop it right now in Testnet.
It's enabling agents to talk to each other in a p2p
decentralized way but hashgraph online for those who don't know or maybe not from the hedera
ecosystem has already facilitated over 28 million transactions on hedera mainnet our most successful
standards are hcs1 which is file storage We created the ability to take a file,
break it up into little pieces,
and put it on the Hedera consensus service for consumption.
You might've heard of a little thing called ordinals,
which does 20 to $40 million in volume a day on Bitcoin.
We created hashinals, which is quite similar to that,
but implemented better, more cost efficient way
because of the Hedera consensus service.
And there's over 155,000 Hashinals out there in the wild
that are built on this infrastructure.
And we receive over 300,000 CDN requests a day
from 89 countries around the world through the standard.
The second biggest standard that we
did was audible points which enables decentralized point tracking for rewards programs that have
no monetary value attached to them and that's done 18 million transactions on hedera mainnet
so i hope that helps i think it was a good question even if it was like crafted by AI.
Riz, you've got your hand up. Did you want to say something?
No, I guess I don't see your hand anymore.
Hello. I'm Audible. uh hello am i audible
yes you are sir okay all right so uh actually when i came in i didn't really know uh the tax was uh
to actually pitch on an ai agent uh for us to actually get the pack and i it's just now i was checking through you guys uh accounts
and i saw okay the pack is the official uh token of the ash park wallet which is quite bullish you
know so uh yeah uh i am my community members we actually have a project that we're affiliated with
uh yeah but it's on the solana ecosystem. It actually has an AI utility.
We actually call it Prince Hakim AI.
And the ticker was African Prince.
So basically, it's a narrative to actually tell people and educate people on what the real african prince are not uh the stereotype of actually uh what has been widely
known all over the world by whenever you call someone an african prince you might probably
think uh he's uh does he have my inheritance money oh my god he said he said he's got my money bro
yeah man he said send four bitcoin i sent you said, we would send back eight. I haven't gotten anything yet.
Yeah, so I like that.
He's been sending a lot of checks.
So that's the popular narrative of who the African princes are all over the world.
So we just thought about it.
A group of DJs, friends, around.
We actually met on X here.
And we just thought to actually give out the right impression of who the real African prince. Yeah, we just thought to actually uh give out the right uh uh impression of who the
real african prince yeah we are yet to actually uh change the narrative of what our onkers and
our friends have actually done uh yeah and it was on the solar ecosystem we actually did a massive
giga sender before uh the massive dump on the solana ecosystem. We actually went to 1.2 million market cap.
So when I had Patricia actually talking about
pitching about an AI agent,
I just thought, okay, it's, it's, I, I didn't fit.
It's like, I need to just say this out here
to actually educate a lot of people.
The Prince Hakim AI account over here on X,
it's all full of humor fun and
facts always calling out the bad actors and all and also giving out the tips on how to avoid uh
the supposed uh african prince yeah uh like uh you uh that's why uh we just thought uh we need
people to know they're legit people all over in Africa.
They're actually giving the right input and actually not wanting to take people, add money and all the stuff.
Just trying to give out good utility and also a solid background and also trying to change the narrative.
So thank you for having me for the speech though.
And thanks Patricia for actually making the question well,
cause I didn't actually get it earlier,
but thank you for actually giving me this opportunity
to actually speak about what we actually cooked
on the Solana ecosystem and is also AI related.
Thank you guys.
Yeah, well, thanks for coming up and educating us.
This was, yeah, it's always fun here at the AI agents hackathon round table.
I think we're at the top of the hour here.
So maybe what we'll do, unless we've got any last pitches that we want to hear, I think we'll probably close this one out.
We've been here for over two hours now. It's been a really fun one.
I really love the pitches that we got today.
It feels like this is going to be a really difficult choice to pick our winner from everyone who did a pitch today so we'll have to confer
and pick in the background and then as usual we'll announce on our feed publicly when the winner has been chosen for the pitch competition just again a reminder the hackathon ends on may 2nd uh even if
you don't know how to code i recommend registering and giving it a shot to go
to hashgraphonline.com forward slash hackathon and sign up. Give Vibe Coding a shot. We built
the standards expert agent in just 24 hours, just through Vibe Coding. So I think that you could
build something out too, even without coding experience. Anything is possible.
We're in the agentic era, guys.
This is your moment.
This is your opportunity.
Do we have any closing thoughts
from our panelists here
before we head out?
Really, really bullish.
Again, we had some incredible pitches today
from Milan, from Davin Hefti,
from Anthony Silent Architect.
I think he left, but
yeah, really bullish. Looking forward
to the next pitch. It's going to be a tight one, not going to lie.
That's going to be a tough one to choose, but
yeah, really quality pitches against today.
Yeah, good job, guys.
Absolutely.
I just want to say the same thing.
It was amazing seeing all these
people jumping on stage,
presenting their pitches, sharing their ideas with us.
Don't forget that you still have time to make sure that you enter the hackathon
because it's where the big prize is.
Use AI tools to help you code your AI agent
and make sure that you don't miss your opportunity.
And Dave has shown us that you can find a team on the spot.
Well done, Dave, and Hafti for working with Dave.
So go ahead, guys, do it.
You don't miss anything.
You don't lose anything by participating.
So make sure that you are entered for the hackathon.
We officially have a team name now.
It's called D Squared.
That's it.
That's our name.
That's it.
D Squared.
Let's go.
That's a good one.
I see what's going on there.
Sorry.
Feather, you wrote a comment.
You asked to speak.
You've got 30 seconds.
Make it a good one.
Okay.
Can you guys hear me?
Nice to meet everyone, yeah? and clear okay i had an idea of
what if you could create an ai agent that could be almost like a security software so i don't know if
there is a security software for blockchain for itself so i don't know most of the times it's like attacks on
most of the dApps so what if this AI agent could like autonomously become
like a software like that almost any dApp on different ecosystems could have
yeah I don't know how to really speak on the space so i'm sorry i'm just a bit nervous
but that's kind of like my idea yeah well thanks thanks for coming up takes a lot of courage uh
feather we're just closing out here but uh yes i think security is a big thing that's going to come
up in with ai agents and that narrative with Web3. So there's absolutely a place
for having security-based AI agents,
and I encourage you to enter in the hackathon feather.
I don't know if you are a software developer yourself
or maybe you want to give a shot at vibe coding it
or finding a team to work with,
but you could win from $30,000 in prizes if you enter.
So go to hashgraphonline.com forward slash hackathon
to come in there.
With that, I think we'll close this out.
Thank you again, everyone,
for coming to the AI Agents Hackathon Roundtable.
Again, hackathon ends at May 2nd.
Register, reach out to mentors and judges.
This is probably going to be the most intense part
of the hackathon as we get closer and closer
to that deadline for your submission.
You are encouraged to reach out to us at Hashgraph Online.
You're encouraged to reach out to
the development relations team at Hedera.
You've got $30,000 on the line.
You've got the demo day on May 20th, which is a huge, huge opportunity.
You want to get to that demo day so that you can pitch in front of the folks at Hedera
VCs and folks outside the ecosystem as well.
Have a great rest of your day.
And big thank you to our panelists for coming up today.
Dave, Phil, and Patricia, thank you guys so much as always.
And of course, Anthony for coming by,
and Tulga and Luca on this Dave too,
and Hefti as well.
Have a great rest of your day, guys.
Hashgraph online out.
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