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Recorded: June 9, 2023 Duration: 2:32:12
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Good morning, all.
I'm going to go ahead and get us rolling here.
All right, Nick, what's going on?
Good morning, good morning.
Just taking a look at some of the semiconductor stocks, RMBS, looking good through $65.
Yeah, looks like another nice day for semis.
Yeah, I haven't really gone through too much, but I see that there, I believe there's a little
bit of a push going off the open.
I see Unity has pushed up.
So, Michael, now, how about this?
Oh, sorry, Nick, go for it.
Nope, nothing else for me.
I was just going to say, how about this W?
Yeah, this has been very fun.
It seems like, I always worry, though, because when they really pump the junk stuff, like
Canva and W and all this kind of stuff, I always keep a chunk, right?
So, you know, I'd love to say I was in my full position from, you know, in the high 30s.
But outmost, of course, like it always happens.
You wish you hold more on the good ones.
And I'll, I basically just tucked the rest away and I'll hold this now in a long-term portfolio
or if I get back to break even.
But I always start to worry when they start pumping the junk that, you know, might be a
short-term top coming up.
Like, I don't think Canva's really going to, like, I don't think anyone's thinking that
this is actually going to still be a company, right?
So, when they start short-squeezing stuff, I just start to get a little bit worried.
So, I don't know.
It's like, it's hard because, you know, I'm a trend follower.
And so, most of my money is made off a few stocks that just kind of really go for a long
period of time.
But then at the same time, when I see stuff like this, I'm like, ah, are we just going
to get suckered into another rally?
But W's doing amazing.
Canva's doing amazing.
Basically, all of these are coming from a scan that I'm running now that's showing
me stocks that are very close to an anchored view app from before their largest gap in
And it's an amazing scan.
And it's producing a lot of good results.
But, you know, again, when it's all junky stuff, I just start to get a little bit worried.
I don't know if, Nick, you feel the same on that.
Yeah, I do.
I noticed at the beginning of rallies, like from oversold places to overbought places
are both kind of marked with those short squeezes.
So I'm definitely getting in more of a defensive position.
But like you said, it's hard to argue with the market when semiconductors are working and
the rest of the market is railing.
But definitely a reason to be cautious.
And, you know, I know I like talking with Nick because I know we trade similar.
But like as it's always a debate that I have.
No, sorry.
What is going on with Peloton?
Are you guys seeing this?
I think it's more of the same.
It's a 12 percent.
It just went 10 percent.
Good morning, everyone.
Sorry to interrupt.
I'm getting some NIO 8.5 calls at nine cents.
I mean, this is a sympathy play with Tesla ripping.
Just lotto size.
And good morning, everyone.
It's good to be here.
Good to be here.
What the hell is NIO doing?
It's up 7 percent.
You said which level calls?
I got an 8.5 calls at nine cents.
I see them.
And so they're at entry right now.
Oh, my goodness.
Just lotto size, though.
Zero DTE Friday.
I was just going to say it's FOMO Friday.
It's like reminiscent of 2020.
Tell you what.
All of a sudden we.
I'll keep in mind here.
I do have SPX at a supply.
We went up and tagged it, you know, just above 4,305, basically.
Let's see if it can hold over 4,300.
Tesla off of 240.
Sorry, 246.
Let's see if my fucking mouse will move.
246.77 to 245.27 is the zone that I've been watching, right?
So I've been buying.
I'm buying calls off of that.
Just zero DTEs.
That's basically what Paul just said.
And good morning, everybody.
Yeah, Tesla obliterated all my levels and went to the moon.
And I'm not trying to chase that with that on this.
So just trying to play a sympathy play here on NIO.
But lotto size.
It's zero DTE.
You know, adhere to risk management above all else.
If this position goes to zero, it's not going to crater my day or anything.
This is just lotto size here.
And NIO is making new high day right now.
Yeah, and Microsoft is ripping up.
Look at Keyton.
What the hell?
This thing's up 14% now.
Peloton is, yeah.
Hey, with Tesla, 250 is the third deviation of the weekly expected move, right?
The chances of us closing today above that 250, statistically speaking, it's less than a 1% chance, I think, at this point.
So just keep that in mind.
Not that we can't rip up past it.
There are exceptions.
But 250 is a pretty hard ceiling.
So definitely, if you're buying dips, make sure you're taking profits.
I know, Paul, I'm sure you are.
But for anybody listening.
Of course, yeah.
You always try to ladder in and ladder out of positions.
Don't just try to buy all at once and sell all at once.
Start with a starter.
Start with a lotto size.
Work your way up as you gain confluence.
And then take profits along the way.
Don't just sell all at 20% or sell all at a bag or something.
What if it makes it up to 95% and it crashes down and you never got to take a trim?
Take trims along the way.
No one has ever gone broke taking profits.
Remember that.
Gailing in and out is something that I support 100% and do all the time.
Especially with these cheaper contracts, right?
These shorter expirations.
You really have to be able to, A, you know, you have to have a couple different levels to enter, right?
If you want to be in the action.
And as soon as it moves up, you know, just since it can reverse so fast, you know, scaling out.
I think, what do you call it?
Laddering out, right?
Or laddering in and out.
Same thing, right?
I mean, it's your literally.
Same word.
Locking in.
You're locking in, you know, that initial risk, hopefully, right off the bat.
And then you have runners that can run.
And in this market, in the last three years, three and a half years, you know, things can certainly run up or down.
You know, we've seen the volatility stay around.
Dude, Carvana is up 68% this week.
So that's.
That may be an action.
That may be a decent short.
Um, if it sticks, if it continues to stay underneath, uh, like 2750 to 28 bucks, uh, going into going into next week, because this was a, if you look at the daily chart, right on Carvana, if you go back to September 28th, um, of last year, that day, that bullish candle, like you can see how we came right up to it yesterday, right?
Wicked down and closed underneath.
Obviously we gapped up into that, uh, into that, that zone, whatever you want to call it, uh, initially today.
But if this continues to struggle, that could end up being a really good short to the downside.
I'm not saying today, but just, you know, going into like next week and the next, uh, yeah, there, there's some absolute craziness across this market.
So Peloton, which I was calling out, there is still fucking going.
This thing's up 16%, uh, 15, 16% right here.
Absolutely nuts.
The buying off the open.
And then, yeah, I called out Carvana right there.
That thing's up.
Dude, Paul, was it you who called out this Tesla 220 call on my space?
No, it was paper gains.
I don't know if you remember it Monday.
Yeah, it wasn't me.
I would love to take credit, but it was not me.
Monday, he called out these Tesla 220s.
They went up 850% this week.
I mean, yeah, dude, that's, that's sick.
That's awesome.
I had, I went, uh, Nio's at, Nio's at VWAP.
It's about to hit my stop here.
And, uh, and Tesla, so, so Tesla is, is kind of in, it, I, I think the new levels on Tesla
are going to be like 250 and 245 and it's tested 245 here for three, uh, one minute candles
in a row and it's back up to VWAP.
And so, uh, I, for me, I'm just trying to stay patient.
Uh, my stop might hit soon on this, uh, Nio, Nio, uh, lotto, but like, again, if this goes
to zero, it's not going to hurt me at extreme lotto size.
So, all right.
I wanted to say with Tesla, definitely, uh, 245.
I have, you know, we had, there's a gap, um, on Tesla between 245.01 to 249.44 as well.
So we did, we filled that gap, uh, at least pre-market.
I don't, I, we basically filled that gap right at open here.
Um, keep that in mind, whatever the case, 245 to 246 is a great spot to play this range.
In my opinion.
I mean, if we break over 250, especially like 252, this thing's going to scream up.
I'm not, I, the chances are very low of that happening.
And especially staying up, um, since, you know, we're coming into the weekly close, but
uh, it is Tesla and this is a very FOMO-ish market.
The Qs could run up another, they can go up all, you know, another 80 points to get
to the, uh, to get to that supply that's up above, right.
That where we rejected off already once this week, we, you know, I think that was built
on Monday, right.
The, the highs of the Qs here.
That was Monday, right.
The Monday, 12 PM candle Eastern.
Um, you know, that's still another.
Qs are a high a day right now.
That I could totally see them running.
They could, they could totally, uh, you know, just be sort of a liftoff trend day, uh, into
the weekend here.
Spy, spy, same thing, uh, similar chart padding pattern gapped up starting to rip high a day
So for sure the indices and the whole market could just keep running.
I mean, people, people want a new bull market.
They, they want it.
It's an, and it's happening.
Speaking of which, um, SPX, I am going to get into some calls here.
Uh, zero DT is all I'm going to trade today.
Uh, I did Wednesday.
I put out, I put out on Twitter.
Um, I think Thursday morning, but you know, I took a bunch of trades on the bull side.
Um, I think we had that space.
I might've talked about that.
I think in your space, uh, what was that yesterday morning?
I think Gavin and, um, you know, if they, they performed okay yesterday and they all just
woke up today.
So like, what a gift, you know, like, it's like a treat, like you wake up to Christmas.
Um, this explosion across the board is fantastic.
Those Peloton $9 calls are up 3000% today.
That's wild, dude.
Are that, there's the small caps or something?
Those high beta names.
What's a D whack doing with the Trump news?
Oh, I feel like move so much off Trump anymore.
It's, it's up 2.3%.
It's just moving with meme names.
It's not moving off the Trump news.
Um, two things real quick.
First off, if anybody's able to share out the space, much appreciated.
I feel like there's gonna be a fun training session.
It's only been 12 minutes and we've already been watching stuff fly.
And then number two, I am giving away a pair of brand new AirPods today.
If you're someone that could use a pair of AirPod Pros V2 brand new out the store, I pinned
the tweet to the top.
I'm going to pick a winner in one hour and we're going to give away a pair of AirPods.
So if you're in here, I recommend participating tweets in the top of the space.
It says all the rules to participate right on the tweet.
That's pretty cool.
Hey, I'm in the 4325s for SPX.
They are ripping up, um, you know, play at your own risk.
But, of course, I do see us, uh, let's see if we can get over this 43, uh, 11, 43, 10 area
here, which I think we already are.
Uh, the next area I have is 43, 18.
Yes, by pushing.
Oh, oh, UPST.
Uh, watch UPST.
Oh, I missed this shit yesterday.
I'm, I don't want to miss it today.
I kind of want to get in right here.
Let me see.
Well, it's starting to run.
Hey, the other one is Tia.
I'm thinking about, uh, sorry.
I'm thinking about, uh, taking some QQQ calls.
Uh, I'll, I'll let you know if I enter.
Yeah, let's see.
I, the Q's definitely, I mean, it's, it's super bullish here, but if we can, I am interested
to see what the Q's do here.
Um, you know, up about 40, 40 more points here.
Dude, Tesla.
It's still holding up here.
If you can get a, if you can buy it like for, I mean, not financial advice, right.
But that 245 to 246, even 247 is that zone is, uh, is relatively strong.
Um, Tesla up 43 and a half percent this month.
Fucking crazy, dude.
I mean, look, I fought, I fought a lot of this rally, you know, from, from October.
I mean, there were some phenomenal shorts, right?
We had fantastic plays, you know, some really nice sell-offs, but you know, you look back
and it's like, dude, I, I shorted Tesla down, you know, to the bottom.
I was aiming, you know, for, for nowhere near what it hit.
And it's like, why didn't I, why didn't I just buy some, you know, it's just looking back,
it's stupid not to, uh, uh, you know, grab some leaps or even, you know, six months out
calls just, you know, just as a hatch because it is Tesla.
And, and for anyone that doesn't know, like Tesla's ripping today because Tesla, uh, they,
they basically converted Ford and GM to their standard.
Uh, I mean, Ford and GM were basically like, okay, if we can't beat him, we got to join
And, uh, Tesla is the standard Tesla is inevitable.
I mean, this is, this is real con, this is something that's very concrete in the minds
of, uh, you know, the people that, the people that choose, uh, you know, Hey, we need to
upgrade or downgrade Tesla.
I mean, Ford and GM conforming to, uh, to Tesla is, is that's pretty huge.
That's pretty huge.
Hey, Evan, I'm back.
No, you're good.
I was just going to say, I thought Evan, I thought you'll find this funny.
My brother just texted me a screenshot of SoFi's last month and it shows up six, like, you know,
the, so the stock went up 64%.
He goes, I have 500 shares.
I go, congrats, man.
And he goes, the problem is my average buy-in was $10.
It's only at eight 50, even though it was up 60% this month.
So I feel like that's probably a classic SoFi problem right there.
Hey, I wonder how many people are, are in situations like that, you know, cause some of these
tickers, some of these bigger names and smaller names have retraced back.
I mean, not to like previous highs or anything, but you know, enough to where I do wonder, um,
how many people are coming online to either, you know, to either cut their loss, you know,
cut even or start managing those positions.
Um, you know what I mean?
Cause people, a lot of people did bag hold go in the, in last year's drop.
I mean, I've talked to many people and, you know, you see, we all saw the tweets, I'm sure
for a while there until a lot of that disappeared.
But so there is a question about that, right?
If some of these smaller cap names that are rallying up, um, you know, are people going
to start taking profits or, or just, Hey, sorry to, sorry to interrupt.
Uh, I took some QQQ call, three 60, uh, QQQ calls at a 14 cents, a zero DTE lotto size.
And the NEOs are the 8.5 NEO calls are up to 12 cents.
So it's like 30, 30.
Uh, I mean, both of these are at like, uh, 30% right now.
The queues kind of ripped up before I could get it out.
So, uh, I'll try to be quicker next time.
I'm buying the 43, 25 SPXs for today.
Um, every time it dips down, uh, 270, uh, I'll fill it 250.
If it does dip down to that, I'll just put that out there now.
And there it's bouncing between like 270 and, uh, you know, running up to, ran up to 350
previously.
So, you know, it's obviously a clean move there.
So I'll say that before it gets caught up, looking Microsoft go, you guys, if it gets
over a three 30 again, that's a big move.
Watching, watching, watching.
I do have Apple coming up into a zone, uh, one 82, 22 to one 82, 75.
Um, something to watch out for, right?
The, uh, what was that?
The previous high, right?
The previous all time highs was one 83, 38.
Uh, but this, this one 82 to one 83 area is worth watching.
See, reclaim that.
Hey, uh, Evan, are you seeing shot here?
What's happening?
Up 2% high of day.
There we go.
The Tesla news, even though it's not in that index, uh, still moving it higher.
We're only 5 cents off all time highs.
There we go.
Love to see it.
Generative AI, uh, still the big theme, but I don't know if you, you saw last night, Jim
Kramer put out a quote saying that generative AI is the real deal.
So see if it, uh, it hurts the, uh, first generative AI ETF today.
Tough scene.
Tough scene.
All right.
These cute, these cute calls are up, uh, 46%.
The Neo calls are up, uh, 15%.
And if, if Tesla gets over this two 50 level, I will take a zero DTE lotto size stab at some
calls, maybe some like two seventies or something, because man, who knows this, uh, this, this thing
could rip.
I mean, yeah, it's a, it might get some, uh, resistance there at the, at all time highs,
but, uh, I mean, man, this is, this is such a, uh, volatile name.
Nice job with the Neo ones.
I saw there's up about 22% right there.
Oh my God.
These Tesla calls went from $2 and 78 cents on Monday to $29 and a half dollars today.
That's awesome.
A lot of, uh, a lot of people, uh, became millionaires from that.
Did you see somebody came in yesterday and bought $10 million of Tesla calls?
The first, they bought the two, was that the two fifties strikes?
I saw that come across and it was like, Holy shit.
Um, I took profits on those, uh, the Tesla calls that I got down near, uh, two 45 was really
closer to two 46.
Um, but I will look to get back in them.
If we, if we retrace, you know, even two 46, 77, uh, in that area, that's the zone top
that I have.
So if we dip back down near that, um, I will grab back in and the way that I trade just
FYI, I always leave a couple of runners.
So if I buy 10 contracts, I'll, you know, I'll close out eight out of the 10 leave two on
Um, sometimes it may even be just one on, uh, I will move a stop up to break even on that
at that point.
But you know, that gives me a little bit of leverage.
It's kind of like we were talking about, you know, scaling in and out even on these fast
moves though, because you never know when the contracts are going to flip those SPX
43, 25s are now up at three 30.
So I'll taking some off here.
Um, three 50, I do have a fill at, but those could easily pop here and run.
If we, I think we're going to head to 43, uh, 43, 20 here pretty soon.
We can clear this.
Uh, let's see.
Kramer, by the way, 32 minutes ago, Evan Kramer tweeted, my money is on Apple and VR big.
Why do you have to say that?
That's in peace.
Why do you have to say that?
Not today.
Speaking of Apple, look at Apple.
Apple's cruising, but I, you got to watch that, that one 82, uh, to one 83 level here.
Let's see if we can get over that.
If we can, we can reclaim one 83, even one 82 75.
Um, that will look really good.
I don't want to see it reject here though.
That would not, uh, that's not going to be great.
Cause it's lining up with the highs from earlier in the week on, on the NASDAQ.
Um, you have Microsoft that retraced back up, you know, we're, we're still under three 30 though.
That's a key level.
So we are back above the, uh, the weekly expected move, the first deviation range.
So Microsoft had broken below it, right?
Three 27 69 was the, the EM to the downside.
Obviously we had cruised past that.
We went down to the second deviation.
It's another reason to be bullish here, right?
We had the queues down.
It's just at a level that we should see a pop.
And that's what we're seeing leading into today.
So definitely still looking bullish, looking good.
This is a crazy stat.
Inter Miami soccer team.
Since they signed messy, they've been averaging a thousand, 400 new Instagram followers every minute.
That is a lot.
So, so can, can someone, uh, like, I don't know anything about this deal.
Did they give him like a billion dollars and the team is owned by the Saudis?
Kind of like they bought, uh, the PGA.
Like, can, can you guys, uh, just shine a light of why that makes sense?
I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole, um, on this space, but I don't believe that that team is owned.
I don't know if Inter Miami is owned by, no, it's owned by David Beckham.
So the Saudi, Saudi Arabian, uh, soccer league or football league or whatever it is, they're just throwing out stupid amounts of cash.
They offer 1.2 bill.
So there's no affiliation with Inter Miami.
It's actually owned by David Beckham.
But, uh, but yeah, there's, there's whispers about what the deal is going to be.
There's some talks that he's going to get a piece of Apple's MLS, uh, package or whatever for every new subscriber.
There's talks about, uh, through his deal with Adidas or something like that, that he'll start getting money as well.
So I think Messi is going to be well compensated, but, uh, he was rumored to basically have turned down a billion dollar contract from Saudi Arabia.
I think it was a billion dollars over two years.
Real quick, uh, good price, probably to take some profit on that QQQ trade.
Um, was that Paul who called that out or was it Alex?
Someone called out QQQs?
Yeah, yeah, I'm up 60%.
Yeah, I'm up 60% of my Qs.
I trimmed a quarter and I'm up, uh, I think close to a bag, yeah, 83% on the, on the Neo and I trimmed a quarter.
So that's, uh, actually, yeah, and these Qs are up 67%.
So 67% on Qs, 83% on Neo.
So if you guys took that for sure, always take profits, uh, take some of that off the table.
Because with, with the zero DTEs, I mean, they could, they could turn it to dust or, or, or less, uh, you know, in no time.
Um, yeah, you're, you're in, you were tagging that hourly supply up here on the Qs.
So just, uh, let's see where we go from here.
But, I mean, there's quite a bit of momentum.
I feel like it's, uh, it does line up with, with Apple kind of retracing to that 182 level.
Um, I wanted to throw out there, I've been in, uh, tweeted this out a bunch.
So anybody that's, uh, taking NVIDIA with me off of, uh, the 379, 380 area, um, I am starting to take profits on those.
So NVIDIA is moving up nicely.
It probably will run up to like 408, but I'm not going to risk it at this point.
Cause they're, um, they're doing really well.
So look at Microsoft go.
So we're going to test that 330, but we're over a 32905, which was top of my level.
So those, uh, SPX calls, the, um, they did breach four bucks.
So now I'm, I'm down to about 25% of the position here.
Uh, upstart run in, talked about that one a little bit earlier.
Not up very much, to be honest, from where I called it out, but about half a percent, about three foot to 5% here on the calls.
All right.
Those Neos are at a bag, a hundred percent trimming another fourth.
So, uh, yeah, we got a bag on, uh, live, uh, Wolf spaces today.
Hope, uh, hope, hope anyone, uh, also I got 11% right there.
That was really called out right on here live.
That was great.
Plus you gave the thesis.
Thanks for sharing out the giveaway, Alex.
Yeah, I'm looking, uh, I'm looking a little under the hood here.
So I've got this sector watch that I use with trade ideas and just breaks down each sector and then the stocks and each sectors and which ones are up or down.
So, and, you know, just look at the split of the S and P 500.
This is a tech rally.
Like there's no other sector other than, uh, consumer discretionary, which is basically also tech, um, that's participating in this.
So just one of those, you know, you gotta be careful where you are, uh, for me, if the market starts to kind of reverse here, I want to attack, uh, energy to the short side and communications to the short side.
Cause those are the two sectors that seem to be lagging the most here.
So, you know, you can do a lot with, um, with energy stocks, just, you know, pick your, pick your name or, uh, you know, Netflix might be a good one for a little bit of a short play.
So just keeping an eye on what's relatively weak and relatively strong in the market so that if the market kind of changes directions, cause I don't really want to chase up here.
Then, uh, then I've got my targets to short.
So I'm re I'm getting back into these, uh, 43, 25s here at a three 30, I'll fill it, uh, $3 and two 50 as well, but basically just retesting, uh, the 43, 11, 43, 10 area that I was watching for a break over.
So I'll just put that out there.
I'm watching bulls, B U L Z.
That is a triple levered thing.
It is a six and a half percent are today.
And I'm watching FNGU FNGU is up five and a half percent today.
Uh, both of them just having killer months, 60% months.
What's the video doing?
Video is ripping man.
That's, you know, got to lock in some profits up here, but I think it could run up to like four Oh eight, four 10.
Well, if I want to put up the call, call quickly, but for everyone down below, who's on my predicted grand team, make sure I pin the link in the nest above.
Just go and get your prediction or two in for today.
If you're on either of our predicted grand teams, you should definitely be going to make predictions.
I just made a prediction.
In fact, uh, I'll maybe share that out.
I see Wix is in here as well, but if you're on stock market and use this team, definitely go make a prediction.
Cause he needs more predictions.
Cause my team has currently 240 more made than him.
So definitely, definitely gonna make those predictions.
I don't know what my team's on.
These guys are on, on another, my guy, uh, my guy, what's his name?
Um, uh, Wix is like making a prediction every like four or five seconds.
Yeah, you just got three people in there who, uh, are really carrying.
No, no, no, no.
We've got, we've got good diversity on the team.
No, I left.
There's a little diversity in there, but it's three people with like 200 trades and then everyone else is like five.
Top 15 are pretty strong.
Not gonna lie.
Top 15 look good.
Go, go look at my team though.
Look at the diversity of the trades.
We got no one over a hundred and we're still carrying.
Uh, I hear.
What's up paper?
All right.
These Neos are about to get two bags here.
I'm going to trim it two bags, uh, at 28 cents.
Got in them at, uh, nine cents here live on space, on the Wolf space.
They're 27 cents now.
Uh, you know, 28 cents gets the, the two bagger on that.
Uh, Oh, a little rejection, but, uh, that's the thing is that like, so Tesla had that massive pop.
Don't necessarily look to play the Tesla look to play the sympathy plays like a Neo, like a Rivian, uh, you know, something else.
If, if, uh, AMD, uh, get some good news, NVIDIA is going to be a sympathy play there.
So always try to look at the sympathy plays, um, when you're looking at stuff.
Cause, cause a lot of times like you're already chasing and, and FOMO, FOMO is an account killer.
So just, just be careful, adhere to risk management.
And, um, and yeah, that, that's just another way to look at the market is a sympathy plays.
Snap, Cohen.
By the way, Neo had earnings this morning.
So, um, may want to avoid that one.
At least as the sympathy.
Yeah, they, and, and they did, and they did bad, but, uh, but it's, this is still sort of a sympathy play here.
So, yeah, it's all about the price, the price action and the movement.
I, I filled the, at three, but at $3 on those, uh, 43, 25s for today.
Um, so my average is now, uh, 310.
Uh, we'll take some off here, uh, as it approaches up near four.
Um, I just took some off at 360, but it happened so fast.
It's the, uh, it's not even really worth calling out, but I do still like the trade, right?
I think SPX is going to come up and see closer to that 43, 20.
Uh, the one thing to call out is we just got the 10, 10 AM close or the 9 AM candle close.
So we do, I do have tech closing, uh, tested in an hourly supply and closed underneath.
That tends to be a bearish signal, but with the way the markets are performing, um, I'm a lot, I'm more hesitant with that, right?
Like, I still think we have more upside.
Just be cautious with that.
If, uh, if we do see tech start to sell off, we'll kind of know, we'll know why.
So on, on a normal non FOMO Friday frenzy day, like we have today, uh, that would be a pretty clear bearish signal, but I don't know if it's, so I'm anyways, I'm two bags.
So two bags on the, yeah, that's a great trade, dude.
You pulled that, you called that out right at the beginning and, and pulled it right out.
I just filled it $4 on some of these 43 guys.
So 10% day here on, you know, my ticker, uh, Wolfspeed having quite the month too.
So what is there or what, what is the ticker?
The Wolf is ticker WLF.
Not, not actually my ticker, but.
Uh, yeah, no, I just wasn't sure if it was Wolf or, or I didn't hear what you said.
Yeah, dude, this thing's up.
What's it got going on?
You got to actually do that ticker has a clean slate up to 58 bucks, you know, maybe 56, 80, but like, I bet you could see 58 out of that, you know, over, uh, well, it's hard going into next week, man.
But look at SPX pop up here.
Let's fucking go, dude.
So these are up, uh, these are up 50%.
We're sent here.
So four 50, I'll take some more off there.
The high on these contracts was four 30.
So just keep that in mind.
We all struggle at previous highs.
So I watched the chart of the contracts that I'm trading, right?
I use a thinker swim.
It has active trader and you just copy and paste in, right?
The, or you can type in the actual contract, uh, uh, name, you know, whatever you want to call it.
The, the full description, but you can copy and paste it into where you would have a normal chart and it'll literally show you the chart of the contract, right?
Of the premium changing.
So the price of the contract, and you can see levels built off of that.
Um, I use a standard deviation channel, uh, I guess indicator or whatever, uh, that's on thinker swim.
And all it does is it's, it's horror, you know, it's diagonal lines, but they're straight and they are, they represent just as different deviations off of the mean.
And, uh, that works really well on the one in five minute when you're scalping.
So if anybody uses TOS, check it out if you don't already.
Very nice.
Uh, this Tesla two fifties, I wanted to fill it two bucks, but it doesn't seem to want to get there.
But, um, let's, if it does dip a little bit more, uh, should dip, but that's the two fifties for today, uh, down to two bucks.
And I'd look for a bounce there.
I just play it from like two to three and then, you know, take off most of the risk and then, um, let the rest run.
If, if it does, obviously it's stuck under two 50 right now, but the contracts look good.
Sorry, man.
Let me cut off.
Whoever's speaking.
You're all good.
I was just going to put that the upstarts that I talked about a little bit earlier, uh, upstart got a little bit of a pump just now kind of wavering,
but the calls are about, they were up 20%, but now they're up 8%.
Yeah, man, if you can get, I have levels on, uh, on, on upstart, uh, 33, 16 to 33, 76, um, where you can see we're kind of stuck in between those two right now.
So if we can get up above that 33, 76, so really, you know, if you can get up over like 34, especially that, uh, it has some room to run as well still.
Funny, man, the levels that I did not expect to hit, you know, Wednesday was a little more, uh, bullish, you know, still thinking, I think after Tuesdays when I was like, you know, I tweeted out that it's, it's, it's by, it's, you know, it's by the fucking dip until next week.
Until the fed, in my opinion, I mean, maybe not even the fed, maybe it's CPI.
Like there's a ton of data next week, but until then the markets are just feeling, you know, there, you can just see it in the price action.
Like, you know, we should have, we had opportunities to sell off on the indices and, you know, besides cues, you know, coming down, um, we, we didn't get like a real sell-off, you know, it would bounce back on SPX and, you know, on ES, whatever you watch.
And it's, uh, that's, that's an indication that, you know, the sellers just aren't there.
They're not ready yet.
So, and they may not be ready, you know, maybe that, that, maybe it is over.
We'll find out next week.
Look at SPX go.
We're about to hit $5 on these contracts.
So even if you bought in at $3, right, three to five, not quite, uh, you know, what is that?
Uh, I can't speak right now.
It's about 66%.
Look at these, let's go.
This is why you leave, um, parts of the position.
All right.
So we're almost at, uh, 30 or 43, 20 on SPX.
We have, uh, the cues coming up.
I'd like to see the cues push another like 20 points and clear this up.
I just, uh, trimmed my cues at, uh, 80, 80% here.
So, uh, yeah, the cue call is still on those.
And I, I stopped that at the Neo calls.
So, uh, I took the two bags on that.
It dipped down.
I sold out.
I, uh, I got stopped out.
So yeah, at a Neo got the two bags on that cues.
Trying to get a bag on here.
There's upstart 25%.
Uh, if anyone's a trade interrupt me, but don't you guys, me and Wolf, we've been doing some work with microsectors.
Don't you guys trade any of their ETNs?
The, the, the Fangu, GDXU, anything like that?
No worries.
I'm not like, we're just kind of trying to find some people to do.
Didn't you guys actively, uh, look at them?
That's not something that, that I have my antenna on.
Uh, I, I'd love to learn more, but yeah, I don't, I don't really know much about that.
I don't day trade them.
But yeah, I'll take GDXU.
GDXU is actually a great way to express gold positions because the miners can sometimes get, uh, some good relative outperformance because they're the, the mini ones, right?
Is that GDXU, the, the mini miner?
So sometimes you can get, cause it's all these junky little miners that sometimes we'll discover like these, you know, amazing, uh, gold positions in the middle of nowhere, right?
They're kind of like the shit coins of the, the gold mining space.
So it's sometimes a good way to get leverage if you got a bullish, bullish bet on gold.
Oh, so, so yeah, that's interesting.
So, so, uh, do you guys actively, um, do you guys actively trade those or something?
Uh, like you said, you're trying to look at more data to see what people are looking at with those.
Uh, like what, what are you, um, I guess, what are you trying to, uh, allude to?
Uh, I guess I don't, I don't understand the full picture.
Is that to me?
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh no, we're, we're doing some work with them on the backend and, um, yeah, my, my honestly goal is to just get some people who are actually just naturally talk about the ETF.
They're really popular, uh, have some crazy volumes.
So there's definitely people trading out there.
So I'm just trying to find, uh, some natural people who, uh, like talking about it and we're trying to set up like a trading space or something.
So yeah, just.
So GDXU is that, so that's one of them.
You said, yeah, there's like, there's a couple of them.
If you just go to like microsectors.com or msectors.com or just search up microsectors, there's a bunch of them.
But basically the concept is, is just vehicles made specifically for traders that are going to give you that beta.
Um, you look on the best and worst performers ETF slash ETNs every single day.
Uh, there's a pretty much there on both sides of it.
So it's an interesting concept and, and yeah, we, uh, big company that we, uh, we see trying to work out with and it's cool to be able to do it.
You guys, I'm going to call calls here.
Uh, the, the one 24s for today at 30 cents.
That's G O O G L is what I'm trading.
I'm looking for a bounce at one 23.
I'm watching and I'll get more of these SPX calls.
If we get back down near a 43, 12, um, the same, uh, 40, 40, uh, 43, 25.
Go ahead, man.
I was just, yeah.
So these, these cues are down to 17%.
I'm not going to let them go, uh, go red.
So manage your own risk, manage your own stops.
Uh, risk management is key.
Anyone that trades will tell you the most important thing about trading is risk management and don't, don't let a trade go, go red.
So I might stop out of these Q calls, but Hey, I got an 80% trade on them.
So feeling pretty good.
And it got two bags on Neo here.
I'm watching B Y N T 13 and a half dollar calls, 27 cents right now.
I like them.
So, so how do you guys trade GDX you?
Like I, so I don't, um, there doesn't look like there's any options or anything.
You just buy the comments and hold them or something.
Um, yeah, so these are all ET ends, slightly different from an ETF.
Uh, it's kind of more like similar to a bond basically.
Um, but it has like the fluctuation of stocks.
So there's no, uh, option chains typically on them, but they're just like super levered, uh, common positions basically.
And so they have them for, I don't know, eight different sectors, something like that.
So there's gold, there's oil, there's tech, there's innovation, there's miners and all those.
And then they give you both directions.
So they have three X levered and three X inverse levered in both directions.
And then some of them are actually slightly less levered, but I find them very interesting as first off, they're always like, whenever you look at like the biggest movers in the market on a given day, these things are always there one way or the other.
So they provide a lot of volatility, but not having to worry about theta, not having to worry about IV.
It's really just right off the comments.
And, and, you know, options are great and especially for day traders, right?
But anything outside that you're, you're fighting time, you're fighting theta, all that kind of stuff.
So I would say they're not so much day trading vehicles as much as kind of short term swing trading type of thing, which is where I live, which is why I'm more familiar with them.
If I, if I have a couple of days that I want to express a bullish thesis on gold, then yeah, like a junior gold miner, or they've got some cool oil instruments and that kind of stuff that you can, you can express those short term bets.
The only thing to keep in mind with a lot of them, these, the leveraged ETFs is that they use options internally as well.
So they're also subject to theta decay.
So you just got to make sure you're, you know, they fit your timeframe.
So if you're a, you know, a short term or in immediate term kind of swing type of thing, and you've got a thesis on, on a sector or something, they're great to go to for that.
Basically just not long-term investors.
I just want to throw out there, the Googles, I am aiming for 40 cents, right?
Got them at 30.
They're, they're sitting just under 35 cents right now, but that's going to be my first target.
I did end up sneak, I did grab a smaller size of those 43 25s when it retraced back up to four.
I'm still, still have fills at three 50 and $3, but I don't think it's going to hit three bucks here.
But anyways, I just want to throw that out about Google.
If it gets, if you bought them at 30 cents, 40 cents, it's a good target.
That's a 30% move or 33% move.
Leave some runners on, right?
In case you read, you know, in case we really do rip up.
But don't forget to take off your risk.
Sorry guys.
I didn't mean to kill that.
I just didn't want people to miss it because it looked like it was pushing up.
So, no, it's good.
I mean, that's, uh, that's why we're here, right?
It's, um, I mean, yeah, we're, we're talking about the markets and stuff, but I mean, active
trades, things like that.
I feel like that takes precedence.
So yeah, I think, I think you should always, I mean, it's not my space, but I would say
that's, uh, that's time is of the essence.
So feel free to interrupt.
A hundred percent.
And I feel the same when I'm flabbing on, if somebody has something, just jump in.
Cause it is, this is a fast market, right?
And I mean, especially when we're trading, you know, zero DTs, which is, I gotta be honest,
that's, that's so much.
I, I used to swing trades.
Um, you know, it's kind of how I was brought into trading, uh, got into options, but still
it was more swing trading.
And then the market shifted.
And, uh, obviously the last like year and a half, um, swinging, it's not that it wasn't
profitable, but it just wasn't for me for, for long enough that I was just like, screw
I'm just going to focus on day trading.
And it's become, you know, it's been one of the best, uh, last, you know, 12 to 18 months,
uh, of my life.
And, um, yeah, anyway, so it's worked out.
So, you know, but these trades happen fast and they're not for everybody.
So, you know, you could, if we take trades, you can take something, you know, especially
with like spy SPX, QQQ, you know, these names, you can take next Wednesday's expiration and
just have a little bit of a buffer, you know, and still be able to make money on these plays.
So I just want to throw that out there.
Not everybody wants to trade the, uh, zero DTs.
Let's see if SPX can get up, you know, 43.
Yeah, for sure.
Oh, Tesla's ripping.
Tesla's breaking through that two 50 level.
Now, uh, I think I might take a stab at some, uh,
zero DTE Tesla calls.
Let me take a look.
Dude, the two fifties right now, they're three 35 about to hit three 50.
Um, I'm in them.
I, you know, I wanted it to, um, just bought here as it pushed up, but it's whatever.
It's fine.
I think it's going to rip, man.
We're above that third deviation.
The next zone I have up on here is two 50.
If we can get over two 53, we should see two 56, um, all the way up to even two 58,
All right.
So I got in some Tesla two 60 calls.
I mean, they literally just ripped in front of my eyes.
I got them at 50 cents and they're already up to 72 cents at 25% now.
Just, just ripping out of, uh, ripping out of the, uh, the, the ceiling here.
Pretty, pretty amazing.
So yeah, sorry if I didn't get that in quick enough up, but it just, it literally just
ripped 25%.
Now, listen, yeah, people are following.
If you're following along with what we're talking about, hopefully you have these charts up
in front of you, you're able to kind of see what's happening.
I highly recommend anybody that has the availability to have a con have the contract charts up
too, but at least have your, have the few charts up, right?
Like I have the futures and then, you know, Tesla, Apple, Microsoft, Google, NVIDIA.
Um, I have upstart on one screen right now, but, uh, all right.
So these 42, uh, or 43, 25, they're dipping back down.
I'm going to pick up some here at five.
So this is how I scale in and out when we're actually like making a move for what I think
is a move.
Um, I'll buy some at five, I'll buy some at four 50 and, uh, at $4, right.
I'm taking off my $3, uh, fill and just moving that up basically.
And that way, what it does is it gives me exposure, right?
Cause we bounce here from five, we would go from five to six, right?
That's a 20% move.
That's, I mean, you can lock in 20%, which is, I mean, obviously I love, you know, three,
you know, two X, three X bangers, but I leave that for the runners.
Um, but if it does, you know, if we dip lower, I still have, uh, you know, I still have some
cash available, right?
What are they, what's the saying goes like, uh, uh, like leave, uh, leave yourself, uh,
whatever, leave yourself some cash, right.
So you can continue to play throughout the day.
So there is a saying, there's a word for that.
Anybody wants to help me out.
That'd be great.
Cause I'm fucking brain dead right now.
Always, always have dry powder at the, uh, at the ready.
Something like, I mean, there's probably a more elegant and efficient way to put that,
but always, always, always have dry powder on the side.
Ready to go.
It's the same, man.
Leave yourself some dry powder so you can fight, uh, fight another day.
And that's, uh, that is a hundred percent true.
That's what I was looking for, man.
Thanks for reaching in my brain and pulling that out.
Yeah, of course.
That's that's we're a team here, right?
We're trying to help each other out.
Um, get better.
Uh, so, so I'm in these Tesla two 60 call lotto calls, your DTEs at a 57 cents.
I'm trying to trim at 80 cents.
Trimmed at 40% 80 cents.
So these they're up to 82 now, 44%.
They're ripping.
So see where it goes.
It's looking good, man.
I'm really excited about today.
NVIDIA is pushing up.
Watch that, uh, three 98 23, uh, level, obviously the 400 mark.
But I think, uh, I think if we can breach, you know, even if we can just come up and
tap 400, uh, we could easily push up and see that 408 410 level.
And then from there, I mean, I'm not taking a short right yet.
You know, I'm not trying to short it up here yet, but you know, there may be a time today
when that makes sense.
We'll see where everything ends up.
But the only problem I'm seeing here on the charts is Apple.
It came right up to that one 82 22, right?
That's the bottom of the zone that I have above goes up to one 82 75.
We talked about that earlier.
Um, we wicked right up to that and, uh, on the last hourly candle and we are hovering
down underneath.
So I'd like to see that get a little bit of steam here, um, and push, you know, push up
above that one 82 22, but Microsoft looks good.
The Googles are doing well.
You know, they, I filled obviously at four.
We're talking.
Sorry, I trimmed, uh, I trimmed Tesla at 50%.
So it's, uh, that's a two bagger trade on Tesla.
It's 80, 80% trade on, uh, cues and a 50% trade on Tesla.
I, I, I called them out.
I, I probably didn't give the best warning for a lot of these, but, uh, Hey, I'm it's,
these things move fast with zero DTEs.
Um, yeah, no, they're, they're definitely are fast.
I'm still holding Tesla.
Um, the, the two 50 calls, obviously they're in the money now, but, um, you know, they are
up just hovering underneath four bucks.
I want to see if we're going to break two 53.
So two 52, 67 is the top of the zone that I have here.
Um, if you look at SPX, right where we're, you know, we're starting to break up again.
You know, we had this, this consolidation underneath that, that 43, 18 ish level.
And, uh, I'm looking to see if we're going to push up, man, you know, we're all long as
we can hold this push here.
Um, the expected move on SPX, right?
The, the deep first, you know, the deviation to the upside is 43, 37.
So that's, uh, that's the expected move to the upside on the week.
Now, obviously there's a lot of tickers that have just blown through their EMs, you know,
still be cautious with that.
When you're with SPX, um, we can definitely move over, you know, move through it.
Uh, but just be cautious.
So 43, 37, um, I do have a zone bottom right there.
The top of that goes up to 43, 48 for anyone that's, uh, interested in structuring the
trades that way.
I'll tell you what, man, it'll be hilarious.
I was saying this to my group, um, this morning when we were, we had a little, before this,
uh, space came on and I streamed my charts in the discord, uh, every day.
So a lot of times I'm talking about levels that, uh, some people can see obviously that
are listening, but, um, but yeah, it, it'd be really funny if we, we saw the cues bounce
off the expected move, uh, to the downside.
And if we really catch a rally going into the end of the day, I mean, we're only, what
are we, uh, we're like 150 points, uh, away from the, you know, the top of the range of
that, that weekly expected move.
And so, I mean, you know, that's, that's a full, basically playing the range, right?
Like ping pong.
And, uh, so far it's, we bounced off of the lower end perfectly.
So let's see if we can see, if we can make a full circle here, geez, here's the run still
look at Tesla.
Oh my goodness.
It's up 7%.
It's having a good day over 250, over 251.
I don't know if anybody trades the Dow here, uh, the futures, but I do have, uh, on YM, um,
34, five, right.
We're kind of approaching that general area.
Um, it'll be interesting to see what the Dow does up here.
So, you know, it's been a, it's been a ceiling, uh, since, I mean, shit, since, uh, you know,
I don't know, going back, when was this formed?
January of 2022.
So you're talking, you know, a year and a half ago, uh, when this area, the supply was,
was created and you can see how we've rejected, right.
That 34, five up to, uh, basically 35 K.
So let's see what happens when we, we move up.
We're still a little bit off.
We're at 34, two right now.
Oh, looks like Tesla got a Wedbush, uh, upgrade this morning.
Was that the one that went to there that pushed it up to a hundred from two 15 to 300.
Dude, that came through perfectly.
That's, that's the boost we want to see.
How, do you put a lot of weight into that?
You guys, like, do you guys put a lot of weight into, uh, we,
grades, downgrades.
I mean, depends, depends on who's making them.
I'm interested to hear your thoughts on that.
I mean, I don't know if you want to go in that direction, but.
Uh, we've actually had Dan Ives from Wedbush on our Twitter spaces to talk about Tesla.
So I feel like I'm a little biased more towards them than some of the others.
Well, you, I mean, some are, are, I don't want to say full shit, but like some are,
are wildly out of place, I feel like, but then others are not.
So yeah, you want to find people you trust and, you know, can rely upon.
Um, I don't follow a ton of it, but I do see it, you know, every morning I see, you
know, grades, downgrades, um, come across my, uh, my alerts.
So it's always interesting.
The news for Tesla yesterday, that was pretty real.
So it's huge dude.
Like that's a massive, that's actually the first like solid bullish, uh, thing I, I
have, you know, that's new for Tesla just besides being a beast of a company.
Um, but I mean, this is like really good news.
This isn't just some promise of like, Hey, the, you know, the cyber trucks, uh, going
to have this extra window or something.
You know what I mean?
Like it's not, not that that shit doesn't matter, but like, this is total, this is different
for sure, man.
This is big news.
I mean, unless there's a, is there any chance of it falling through?
I didn't read into it too much.
Like, is it a done deal?
Um, um, Mary Barra wouldn't have came on Twitter spaces if it wasn't a done deal.
Uh, I heard.
I didn't realize that that thought went down, but I, uh, yeah.
It sounds like every, most of Elon's partnerships now are going to be done, uh, announced through
Twitter spaces, dude, let's go baby.
That's, I'd love to see Twitter spaces, you know, get the legs and the wings that it, it
has so much potential and they're still good the way they are.
Like, don't get me wrong, but I mean, work out the bugs and add some of the features that
we're all looking for.
And, uh, it could be huge.
So in my, yeah, definitely.
Uh, looking up real quick, the hedge question for the day.
I haven't even examined this yet.
Ooh, we are definitely above.
So four 28 and a half is where a lot of large positions are based around on the day.
So if we do start to sell off a little bit throughout the day, I'd be looking for a bit
of a retracement to four 28.5.
I just added to those Tesla two fifties, uh, three 10.
I'll throw that out there.
And actually it's a perfect example.
If you look at the, uh, the chart of the premium on the one minute, you can see how, when we
peaked at nine 46, right, we just basically came back down and retested, you know, what
was, what was resistance, you know, is acting as support for now.
So, and it lines up really well with the, uh, the two 50, uh, 67 level on, uh, the zone
on, um, on Tesla.
So Nick, you've been up to anything?
Just, just watching everything.
Um, I think, uh, yeah, I, I'm more of it in a defensive mode as a swing trader right
Um, all the good stuff got extended.
Uh, I did trim IOT into a, another 10, 10% move today.
So my day is basically done.
Um, I'm going to, going to be defensive going into next week.
Interesting to see this run.
I wonder if we run Monday up till that, basically up to that CPI print.
And then my expectation would be calm Wednesday morning or probably not a ton going on.
I wouldn't be surprised to get like a gap up to, to start the week, really drive up all
that FOMO and then, then have our pullback.
There's a good chance that, um, with next week, right, we, even if we end up with the
week bullish, um, it, we're going to see those swings, right?
We should see some pretty decent swings and ranges play out here.
Um, actually it'd be nice to see this week close, you know, up here on SPX.
Um, especially if the cues can, can just creep up a little bit higher here because then we
can use this as, you know, as the area for the dip, um, for the next, you know, potentially
for the dip.
I mean, it depends, right?
We could get a slam down.
Uh, obviously there was a big, there was 4,200, uh, puts for SPX that came through for
the 29th, I believe.
Let me just double check.
But, um, that came through earlier this morning.
Um, how much was that?
That was so half a million in premium, right?
But it's the, uh, the 629 4,200 puts so that, you know, we're starting to see the hedges
come through like that.
I don't know.
I don't even know if they're hedges, but whatever the case, right.
I mean, we're coming into an eventful week, so we want to treat it as such.
Actually there was two blocks.
So that's actually a big, I don't, I'll have to add up the blocks, but so far it's a,
it's a million in premium.
Uh, I don't see any more, uh, for those that want to check it out, me and stock working,
as we're talking about making predictions earlier, I just pinned this to the top of
the space.
I just dropped the prediction on where I believe Google is going today.
Uh, basically it's, it's really nice because we, what we do is we input our prediction and
then the website actually turns it into a chart and makes it a very easy to view chart,
puts kind of the lines for us.
So I, all I did is I basically just linked the chart right into the top of the space.
And it's also my last post.
Uh, so if you do want to go ahead and check it out, it is very easy to see there.
Uh, and yeah.
And if, if you decide that you like something like that, I mean, we basically both have
teams on the platform and we do $1,500 of giveaways a month minimum.
And so if anybody wants to participate, like would love to have more traders involved with
our teams and hopping on and it's fun and friendly competition with just a lot of giveaways
fees and no fees to enter.
For anyone.
Uh, I know it's a big thing that a lot of people come on trade in the morning and then
over trade throughout the day.
Uh, I found a couple of those active traders that this actually goes and helps and keeps
you away from the market while still, uh, giving you that itch and doing it in a fun
And, uh, maybe you can get some money.
If you're a competitive person, I think this is the perfect thing for you.
Um, yeah, I'll check it.
Oh, Alex, I'm dropping you a link to join my team.
Don't do not join anyone else's team.
That sounds good.
I'll, uh, I think you'll find it.
I do have a bunch of open predictions right now.
I just real quick.
I get, I get stopped out of my Tesla calls.
Um, so yeah, it's three winners on the day, no positions now.
Um, but yeah, this is, this has been a lot of fun.
This has been a lot of fun so far, but, uh, there's a lot of day left.
So yeah, don't, um, don't overtrade.
Don't, um, I've lost more money on zero DTE options than, than I can remember.
Uh, so just, um, these type of days, they, they, they could hurt you if you're not careful.
So risk adhere to risk management.
Got my eyes on, uh, Palantir, here, 16 bucks, big psychological level, level is just kind of basing a little bit below.
Um, you know, obviously insane trend on the daily.
So if it gets over 15, it might be worth just a little bit of a, a scalp there.
Um, but, you know, we're just reaching past the first hour, which is usually when I'm done, um, I'm done scalping at that time.
Um, yep, makes sense.
So let's see what other open positions are going on right now.
What's moving.
Tesla kind of sticking right around 7% right now.
Square up a couple percent.
AMD up four and a half percent.
Semi's definitely moving.
CLH is finally rounded into shape today.
This one has taken, taking its sweet time, but is now up about 7% and a half on the day.
Not sure why Dogecoin was popping this morning.
I think Elon maybe made a tweet or something.
Who knows?
Uh, outside of that, Neo's back at entry.
I know you cut those.
Hey, I'm, I'm adding to, uh, the, to more of the Googles here.
It just retraced the 30 cents again.
So I, I filled on that.
Uh, that's the one 24 calls for today.
We were talking about a minute ago.
Um, and I also took some profits on those 43 25s, uh, as it approached up, it tags $6.
So, uh, that's, these have been great moves.
I am in still in Tesla just cause it held, it held, uh, my zone on the five minute, uh,
that two 50 67.
Uh, so let's see if we can maybe get a pop on it, but added to Google.
Here's the main, main announcement.
Is that what you want prediction on?
You said on Google, I can do that.
What you can do is there's right now, let's say you were going to do Google.
There's five types of predictions that you can make.
You can make a prediction on whether in the next 30 minutes, the stock will be up or down
and there's like a range that shows you.
So it has to be like up or down more than whatever it is, 50 cents.
Let's say on Google, you can make a prediction as to where it's going to be at 1 PM.
So in two hours from now, and you basically put a range on that, it'll give you a range
based on volatility.
You can also predict a range where it will close in and you can predict the high of day
and the low of day.
So it's five types of predictions and you could do any of them and they all are very simple.
It's literally, you just click the prediction and then it's just a drag and drop.
It like basically creates a chart for you and you're just like, oh, low of day.
Well, I'm just going to set my line here.
And then it turns that into a chart and puts it out onto your profile, not onto your Twitter
profile, onto your predictor profile.
I just added my profile pic to it.
That's always very helpful.
We always appreciate when people add their profile pics because then we actually know who
I mean, it is traders retreat in there, but still it's the picture is the way to go.
I mean, that's what it comes up for sure.
And what's funny is that like now, like I can also throw notifications.
So like if I want, I can throw them on for you.
And then when you make one of like notify me, like, oh, hey, you're thinking that Google's
going to go up in the next 30 minutes.
And then it's not the same as like, oh, you know, Google 200 calls or whatever it is,
but it's more of like, hey, here's the general idea of where I see this going today.
Absolutely.
So where do I see like the prediction to vote on when I'm looking, do I just hit make
prediction?
Just hit make prediction and then you see all the stocks.
So I can just go down and choose Google.
Up or down by 1105.
I'll have to say up.
Then you see how it gives you like the little like pull up or down.
So it's like, it has to go outside that range.
24.06 for sure.
Cause I think we're going to hit 20, uh, at least 2450.
So, all right.
So, uh, so early on, I got in those Neo, Neo calls as sort of like a sympathy play, Ivy
flush play.
And, uh, I mean, look, it ripped up, ripped, uh, ripped up pretty high there.
Uh, not quite to nine or anything, eight, uh, kind of 8.8.
And then, um, it's sort of, it regressed to the mean it's now back at VWAP.
Um, that, that's the importance of just like when you, when you see profit, take profit,
you know, no one ever, no one, no one ever went broke taking profits.
And, uh, and now those, those calls are probably under entry right now.
I don't even care to look at them cause there's no opportunity there, but it's just that the
importance of like, uh, these profits are fleeting and don't like you, you always, uh, you
can be sort of enchanted by, uh, by greed that you want to endlessly hold something to
Like you're not married to these things.
These are zero DTE options, or even if there are a few weeks out or something, you're not
married to them.
You're just dating them.
It's kind of a micro date.
So don't, don't get too attached to a position.
Don't think, Oh, if I could hold it, I could just get this bag.
Uh, you know, don't, um, don't, don't, uh, adhere risk management.
When you see profit, take profit.
Green is green.
No one ever got broke at, uh, taking profits.
So just, just, uh, keep that in mind here.
And if you get into a trade and you're not, I mean, especially with the smaller accounts,
you get into a trade, right.
You don't have, you know, you don't have that extra dry powder.
Like we were talking about the saying, you know, to add on as it dips, you know, you got,
you have to anticipate it dropping like Tesla's coming back down here.
If it breaks underneath this, uh, two 49, I'll be done.
I'll be out of my, out of the calls that I've been buying, um, SPX I've added to, because
I still like where it's at, but, um, you know, it dipped down to four, which I have a fill
at, but the thing is like, you know, what's really difficult.
It's hard enough to take profits when you're in it.
Cause you're already thinking, Hey, what if it goes up another, you know, 40% or 60% or whatever.
Um, but it's even more difficult without practice, right.
And, and without a, a tight strategy to cut your losses when these things go against you,
because they are so volatile, you know, you don't have to panic sell necessarily because
a lot of times you'll see things bounce, you know, um, they won't, it won't be as drastic
as what, you know, caught your attention necessarily first off, but you don't want to bag hold them
because yeah, man, zero DTs, they go to zero, you know, and especially if you're out the
money, which is what a lot of people tend to trade.
Um, you know, I try to stay within, I mean, it depends on the day, but I still, I try to
stay closer to the money.
Um, depending on what, uh, what ticker I'm trading, but yeah, I don't know.
Definitely great points, man.
And practice it, right.
Like you need to almost look at it like practice.
Like if you tag out and that's all the cash you had available, cause you're trading a cash
And that's it, you know, and, uh, well, what if it rips up today?
Don't worry about that because if it doesn't and you lose all your account or you lose
a massive, you know, say you lose 40% of your account, you're fucked, right?
Like you're in a bad spot there.
You can wait till next week and continue to take trades.
You tagged out, you're done for the day.
Go outside and fucking walk your dog or something.
You know, it's, it's absolutely protect your mental capital.
Yeah, dude.
Think about the mental, you know, uh, detriment, right.
That, that happens when you actually bag hold and you're like, you sit there for the whole
day, right.
Or for as long, you know, long as you, uh, can stand it, you know, hoping this thing's
going to turn around and go up watching like micro levels.
Is it going to bounce right?
Watching the contract value fucking go to zero because it's losing fast, you know?
And it's like, that's not good for your mental state either.
You got to think about mental health factor.
I mean, it's just, we don't want to do that to ourselves, right?
Like it's, it sounds shitty to cut your losses, you know, and, or, you know, whatever,
whatever the situation is, but it is a lot less shitty than being stuck in that hole.
And I've been there.
So like, I speak out of experience.
I have bag held, you know, I mean, when I first started trading, uh, options, you know,
it sucked because I, you know, especially in 2020, right.
2021, like everything, even if it dipped, it ripped back up, you know, it seemed like.
Fintwit, Fintwit got a glut of foo roos during that time.
Cause you could throw a dart, uh, and hit something and, and you think you're Nostradamus.
You think anything you touch is, you know, you think you're Midas.
So yeah, absolutely.
I want to go back to the market for a second, which is in this price action movement.
Uh, I am still watching Google right here.
It does look like it's setting up for a nice little move higher.
Like we were kind of talking about there.
PLTR also up another 3.8% today.
Uh, just kind of popped the high up day a couple of minutes ago.
That thing's on a rager, uh, 56% this month as well.
I would be, uh, it'd be quite typical of the market if next week is when all this starts
to reverse a bit.
Uh, but I do see a lot of interesting pieces across the board.
Um, certainly take profit at this point.
If you haven't, if you've been in stuff and you have runners going into that 11 AM is typically
where a lot of things do start to slow down.
You start to lose a little bit of volume.
So I think good points all around, uh, pay.
Oh yeah, Paul.
Oh, sorry.
I was, uh, just, just keep going whenever you're done.
I'll, I'll, I'll chime in.
Um, yeah, um, I'm just going to try to keep it on active price action.
We've got about 20 minutes, um, left on this space.
Uh, one of the things I did want to touch on, I was actually going to bring paper in on if
you're free is just thoughts here on Bitcoin and Ethereum.
Bitcoin and Ethereum.
So to be honest, I, it was a buying opportunity for me, um, just recently, but it's small.
Like, I don't know.
I, I think that that kind of stuff always happens, right?
Like, it's just, you can buy the dip.
It's going to be super volatile.
If you had bought Bitcoin or whatever, right?
Like, I'm not a Bitcoin maxi by any means.
I'm more like, you know, uh, Ethereum or alt, but, um, but on that last, like when everything's
like so bad, uh, that's, that's usually like the one time to do it.
Personally, uh, this just looks like a, if you, if you really zoom out on like a weekly
chart, we're really just kind of like retesting breakout, like that prior breakout level anyways.
So if it does get down somewhere like 23, five on Bitcoin, I would still be picking up a
little bit, uh, just around that 200 day moving average.
There's another thing too, on crypto, it's like, there's no circuit breakers like we have
in the stock market.
So like a lot of times I'll just throw out like a really low bid offer and just let it
rest there for a while.
Something that I'm comfortable with sniping at like, um, but that that's honestly it.
If you wanted to accumulate just a little bit at a time, um, I don't expect it to explode
anytime soon either.
So, I mean, I guess if it does, that'd be great, but you know, it's just not, it's not
in my expectations by any means.
Understood.
I'm continuing to keep my eye on.
I've, I can throw a little something in on Bitcoin if you want, or go ahead.
I can go after you.
All right.
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm watching, uh, 24, uh, five basically.
So 24,500, it really 24,361, uh, to 24,745 is a, uh, a demand zone on the daily chart.
I can see if it does dip down to that.
Um, I'm, I'm willing to buy there.
I have an alert, uh, what is it?
24, uh, eight 11 for what it's worth.
Um, basically as we come down and touch that zone, right.
And that's, it would, it's, there's definitely going to be liquidity there.
Um, I don't really want to buy until it gets, it does come down and touch that just because
it seems, if you look at the daily chart, we are definitely trending down a little bit.
If we break, you know, especially if we've got a daily close under that, uh, that
24,361, um, or if we just, we break below, you know, like 23, nine, um, then we're probably
going to come down a decent amount more.
I can give back most of that rally that we had, uh, what was that last Friday, right?
Or Saturday.
I forget when it was, uh, or no, I'm sorry, back in March, that's the March rally.
What the fuck am I looking at?
Um, but anyways, you know, down, I don't know if it would go back to 20 K, but I do think
20, 24, uh, 24,500, that range in there.
You want to see that, that hold, we do have the, you know, the 200 day moving average for
what it's worth on, on BTC USD, uh, is sitting at 23, 23, 456 is what I'm showing.
So literally two, three, four, five, six.
I don't know if I've ever seen that.
That's crazy.
Anyways, that's what I'm seeing on it, man.
So 24, five, I'm looking to be a buyer.
I definitely appreciate the insights there.
Something that I'm still watching.
What's up SS?
What have you been trading SS?
I know he always takes a second in between.
You guys, I, out of the Teslas and, uh, and the Googles, uh, we, we definitely came down
a little bit.
I still think Google will bounce, but, um, I will reenter different contracts.
The only thing that I am in still, um, are the SPX, the 43, 25s, but if they get under
two 50, uh, or really two 40, I'll be out.
So just want to throw that out there.
Go ahead, man.
Google definitely going the opposite way.
Uh, I was checking with SS if we do have him, sorry, and this market has been a little
crazy this morning.
So, um, yeah, we had Tesla yesterday followed the big money flow.
Um, several people made ridiculous money on Tesla this morning.
Um, big money.
There were several millions.
So even they were hitting the two 40 calls for today's expiration yesterday with size, which
was very nice.
Then, and I, I love Tesla when it gets moving.
I mean, everybody's seen this move, but I want Tesla to actually hold these gains for
the next week or so.
And I'm a pullback to be expected.
Um, I have taken a longer term position and some QQQ puts, um, just for, we, we took them,
uh, last week and got a 35% move in two days.
So other than that, I like this market, but I'm very wary of taking going long up here.
This was why this was this light little small pullback, a lot of people.
I'm sorry to, I'm sorry to interrupt.
I'm looking at some, uh, meta two 62 puts.
I think I'm going to enter them at 41 cents here.
I got filled at 41 cents.
So meta two 62 zero DTE puts are getting, uh, getting a nice pullback.
It's getting through VWAP here.
I'll, I'll, I'll keep a tight stop on these though.
They're adding the two 65 puts for today.
Also right at the money, several, about a hundred thousand just hit for today's.
But other than that, Wolf, everything else, what's, what's been going on with you?
Anything, some of your longs looking good?
Well, certainly, uh, the long portfolio has been enjoying it.
Yeah, I actually, one of the strategies I have with my HSA and I went over it with my
group, um, you know, a lot of these funds that you can manage yourself through your HSAs
and things like that.
Most people just stick their money into something, the target retirement fund or, or, or whatever.
But I actively manage my stuff at my, my full-time job.
Um, but so my HSA is up like 35%, um, in, in six months, which is fantastic.
So I'm probably going to be moving that over.
I've moved a portion of it over back to the cash side.
So that's just a little strategy I'm doing.
And some people, if you're just, if you're, if you have a job or 401ks, all that, and you're
just sticking in the target retirement accounts, cause I've had several people that still do
I mean, look into it, manage it because you can, if you kind of know the market, the feel
of the market, you can move that stuff around to, to benefit you, benefit you a lot more
than just letting a, like the group that handles ours as principal.
And they, they do a terrible job in my opinion.
They just place people.
They don't manage anything for anybody.
Um, but the market's getting to a level because of tech mainly that, and this fund specifically,
it's a high growth, very risky fund, but it's only got like 80 tickers in it.
And majority of them are all tech.
So I'm just going to do the smart thing and move that over to the cash account for a bit,
still add to it on a, on a monthly basis, but the majority of it don't want to miss out
on the nice 30% gain the past, past five, six months.
That's pretty interesting that you manage your long-term stuff.
Uh, I've got a wealth manager.
He's, he figures up, he figures all that stuff out, rebalances when I need to.
Cause, uh, I mean, for me, it's, it's like a different partition in your brain kind of thing.
Um, uh, he, this guy is a Morgan Stanley guy.
He's been doing this for, uh, you know, 25 years or so he's, he has a lot more of that,
that, that refined, uh, skill in that regard, managing those long-term positions, managing
that long-term risk, not getting overly excited or, or, or overly, uh, you know, scared.
And so for me, I let him manage the macro while I sort of live in the micro here.
That's good.
I mean, everybody has something.
And I know the biggest thing is my sister and her husband went through a situation and
they're extremely wealthy and they let all these people manage their money.
I think it's through Merrill Lynch and some other stuff.
They have a financial advisor.
However, they were in some of this real estate stuff that got hammered.
And I mentioned to them months and months before, I was like, dude, you know, I need
to check with them, keep, keep in contact with them, see what they're actually got you in
because they were in a situation where.
I'm taking some profits on these SPXs as it pops up.
Sorry, man.
No, you're good.
But yeah, just have a good relationship with whoever is managing your stuff.
Good, good communication.
Yeah, for sure.
You know, I do think that's important, you know, people that day trade, uh, and do short
term swings, you know, if you're not comfortable in investing, you know, having somebody that'll,
that'll do it for you.
Um, especially if it's somebody you can trust, you know, you have, have references from, it's
not a bad idea.
I think a lot of, a lot of us, especially as we start to make money, I mean, I think
of this myself included, like, you know, it's like, okay, I'm going to invest, but I'll
tell you what, I'm kind of a shitty investor because I'm still watching the charts all the
You know, I have, you know, stops or I have zones set up on like the weekly and monthly
But the thing is like, and it did save my ass when we dropped last year, but, um, but
then again, if we recover here, like what would have really hurt to hold, you know, I mean,
there's, there's definitely a benefit to having somebody that focuses on that, that is not
day trading or, you know, you know, just trading in general, um, to kind of manage you, especially
as we start to make some money.
So I appreciate what you're saying there, dude.
Not many people that I know will come out and be like, yeah, I pay somebody to manage
my, uh, my longterm, you know?
I pay, I pay him 50 basis points and he does a great job and he handles a ton of my money
and, um, and I, I appreciate his, uh, his advice.
I mean, even 50, 50 basis points is cheap, but it's still a lot of money, uh, when, especially
when you're dealing with large amounts of money and, but you know what, it's, uh, I, for
me, it's been beneficial and everyone's got their own different financial situations.
Um, but I, I have, you know, I, I, I run, I run a company.
I, I, you know, I, I live trade here.
I, I, I've got a thousand pokers in the fire.
I can't manage everything.
I, I have limited attention.
Uh, I have limited bandwidth.
And so, Hey, listen, I'll let this guy manage it.
He'll, he'll, he'll take care of me.
Uh, metas dive in below VWOP right now.
All right.
I've, uh, if, if you're looking at, uh, NQC trading view updated the, they rolled the
So, um, maybe I should just do QQQ actually.
Give me a second here.
If QQQ breaks, uh, if we can get, if, you know, if we can get underneath, um, like two,
two 54 30, you know, I think we will come down to two 53, uh, maybe even two 50, two 50,
but just watch this area for a bounce here.
It's, um, it's definitely an area of interest.
So I have a three.
Meta puts her up 25%.
I'm going to trim it 25%.
That was a great, that was a great entry, dude.
Like you, I mean, you called that out and we, we sold off pretty quick right after.
So thanks.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, no, definitely.
I didn't take it with you, but that's all right.
You know, I'm happy.
Well, I will say that the price there even went down 20, it was 20% below my entry.
So if you, if you had got like, you've been more patient than I had, I mean, you'd be up
a lot more, a lot more than I would be right now.
So yeah, that, that was a trade.
I gave you guys a lot of, uh, a lot of heads up on.
Absolutely.
I'm watching Tesla here.
We're back to where we were bouncing this morning, right?
That's the, uh, the two 46, 77 down to two 45, 27, really just two 45.
It's an easy number to remember.
Um, I want to see the cues kind of settle out a little bit here.
Um, but I probably, I don't know.
I have to go right, right at 11, unfortunately, uh, Gavin, I appreciate, uh, hopping on this
morning, obviously getting me on here.
I'm happy to do it again, of course.
So, uh, but so I'm, I don't know.
I'm, I want to buy into Tesla.
I'll probably end up getting, uh, I don't think I'm going to get OPEX.
I I'd rather pick up the, uh, the 23rd expiration.
That gives me a week after OPEX.
Um, but I may just trade some of that.
It's still looking, I still am trying to day trade that at that point, but because
I have other things going on, it gives me a little bit of leeway.
Um, I can work without, you know, within the alerts.
So that's what I'm looking at here though.
Cause the two 45 has been solid.
If Tesla breaks underneath two really two 44, um, that's, that's going to be bad news
bears for it, right?
That'll come back down.
It'll probably see two 38, uh, two 39.
Uh, real quick.
I actually just did the drawing for the pair of AirPods that I'm giving away.
And I tweeted out the winner.
Uh, it's Tammy J zero two one nine.
There you go, Tammy.
Tammy J Braves fan.
So there you go.
I, uh, ready to hotlanta.
Nothing like it.
Uh, but yeah, that's been put out.
So if you want to, uh, claim your prize, if you're in here, you can just DM me.
Uh, and if not, uh, respond to my DM when you see it.
But yeah, really nice job there with that meta play.
That was like a quick 40%.
It's, uh, it's four winners for four for four on a Wolf space is life traded.
It's we're having a, have a lot of fun this morning.
Very nice.
Very nice.
Uh, news ABB North America has announced that they will adopt Tesla's North America charging
That got announced this morning.
It looks like they're just getting good news all over the place.
So that is what, what is the deal with Europe?
Is that, I think someone was talking about that this morning, right?
That Europe is a, an issue with Tesla or yeah.
Elon was saying some commissioner, uh, ruled that, that, uh, that the standard had been,
um, had been decided upon years ago.
And it's like, uh, it, it, some of the bureaucracy in Europe sort of stifles innovation sometimes.
And that's a, uh, this is a prime example.
Yeah, absolutely.
And they've, they've done that in the past.
I've, I've seen that, or I heard that discussed, uh, this morning a little bit.
So that makes sense.
I guess it's not a surprise.
I assume they, I mean, the idea that like something that's, you know, not, uh, you know,
front of the line innovation, but it's obviously it's a, you know, it is innovation, right?
It's new tech to say that like the standard was decided fucking long ago.
That's like people saying the micro USB was the standard, right?
And now we're now exactly, exactly.
That USB-C is, I mean, and it's, it is better, right?
It's better all around, better than lightning.
Um, in my opinion.
So, and I, I have, I have iPhone, but Tesla is bouncing here.
So I am in those calls.
Um, we did dip down, we didn't quite hit 245, but got 245.75.
Um, let's see if we can, you know, retrace back up at least to 250.
Um, you know, we'll see what happens here.
Question for you, Alex, I know we talked a little bit of Bitcoin, Ethereum.
Do you, have you touched any other cryptos?
Uh, so I trade, um, I have not in a while, dude.
Um, I kind of, I missed the, the last pump.
Uh, I don't even know if it wasn't really across the board, but yeah, anyways, um, the
couple that I really like as, as projects is stacks, right?
That's, uh, that's a, that's a Bitcoin, uh, chain, uh, I don't know what you call it.
Sub, sub, sub coin or sub, uh, chain runs on Bitcoin.
Anyways, STX is the ticker STX USD.
Uh, the project is stacks and the other one that I really like to trade, um, and as well
as own is near and E-A-R.
Uh, so near has been around quite a bit.
They're integrated.
So those, you know, and that's an Ethereum, uh, I think that's a level, level, uh, one or
two layer one or layer one or two.
All right.
Actually, I have harmony one from like IPO, but all right, ICO, whatever that's, that's,
that's funny.
Super similar near.
You're, I mean, my, I mean, near is down right now, right?
They're a lot.
Uh, sorry to interrupt.
Uh, I stopped out of my, uh, meta puts, uh, just, just a slightly above entry.
So that's why you always take profits.
Yeah, dude.
Cutting, cutting the, the runners in the green still or break even is, uh, while you locked
in profit.
That's beautiful.
I mean, it's a, it's a, basically makes the trade zero risk.
A hundred percent.
No, taking off risk.
People want, you know, it's tough.
With a small account, but you got to understand, look at, look, look at yourself six months
down the road.
Like, I don't want to get too philosophical here, but I mean, if you can envision yourself
in six months, okay.
And think like, look, if I can just grow a little bit each week, right.
By taking profits when, you know, when it's reasonable and not trying to always get the
two, three X, you know, you know, turn three grand into 3 million in six months.
You know, that's not, that's not a realistic goal.
Uh, even though some people maybe can do it, whatever, you know, not to hate on anybody,
but the, uh, but the thing is, look at yourself six months down the road.
You can, if you can keep that mentality, grow a little bit each day, then when you have
an account that's, you know, 150 K right.
And you can come in and play with margin or even if you use cash, whatever, you know,
you can come through.
And at that point, now you can really kick ass in the game.
And then look six months down the road from that.
And that's, I mean, that's, that's, that's a totally different life.
That's a totally different person.
You know, if you have the patience to make it through that first three to six months.
SX is bouncing here as well.
You guys, um, the, the NASDAQ did, uh, the queues we were talking about here.
This level, uh, or we were talking about QQQ actually.
That's right.
I don't know if you guys use trading view or not, but trading view updates the, uh, the
continuous contract, uh, at yesterday, you know, last night at six, 6 PM.
So it had the jump, right?
Cause it rolled the contracts, but, uh, thinkorswim doesn't do it until Sunday night, I believe.
So it literally fucks up any of the futures charts that I'm looking at, which is super annoying
to me, but I don't know.
Maybe it's just a picky thing.
You see how the queues bounce.
We never broke below that, uh, three 54, 43 area.
You, you know, Alex, so I've got another space coming up in about a minute or two.
I've got some of my speakers coming up.
So I'm going to make that transition just a minute.
You got any other positions you want to give updates on?
I think that's it.
I think everybody's, you know, I think we did really well this morning, so I appreciate
And I definitely have to run.
I appreciate, uh, we'll, we'll do it again next week, man.
Absolutely.
Appreciate you being on Paul.
You got any other for yourself?
Um, for, for, for on here, uh, give me a follow.
Give all the people up here, follow a lot, a lot of great, uh, generous, uh, knowledgeable
Um, you know, be, be humble.
Always, I'll always, I'll always use an opportunity, even if, even failures to learn, uh, protect
your mental capital.
I mean, this, this is the only job that you can, uh, you could spend, uh, 12 hours a
day, uh, you know, burning, burning lots of, uh, time and energy and you can lose thousands
of dollars.
I mean, maybe this in sales or something, but, uh, I mean, protect your mental capital.
Um, so that's all.
I hope you all, uh, have a great weekend.
Thanks for hanging out with us.
Thank you, Paul.
Really nice job here today.
Michael now, send you kind of comments for yourself if I roll into the next one.
Uh, yeah, just the breath under the hood seems to be continuing to deteriorate, deteriorate
So just be careful, you know, to echo what the other guys are saying on a Friday afternoon,
you know, you don't want to swing for the fences.
So, you know, make sure you're, you're protecting it.
All that stuff that they were talking about.
And thanks for having me.
Absolutely.
My pleasure.
Okay, we are ready to get rolling into this next space for today.
So thank you to paper and to SS as well.
And Paul and the rest of the crew, I see we already got a bunch of good speakers up here
for this next one.
So I'm ready to get right into it quickly.
How are you doing?
I'm good, man.
Good morning.
GM GM feeling good today.
How are you doing?
I am doing good.
We had a crazy start to the stock market this morning.
I'm curious to see if it's being reflected in crypto.
I did see a pop in Togecoin funny enough this morning.
And ETH and Bitcoin seem to be holding up really well after the big news this week.
So I'm curious, you know, you're obviously a lot more involved.
We're going to be talking about kind of the meme coin market here.
You're a lot more involved with that market than many are.
And I'm curious, you know, based on that news that we saw this week with finance and Coinbase
and everything going on, how that ended up affecting the market?
And what do you think it means for meme tokens?
So, I mean, so for me, I mean, I'm obviously like really focused in on our token that launched.
And so, you know, there's all sorts of factors that play into a new token and sort of where
we're at with, you know, announcements and, you know, all that stuff.
So, but, you know, the macro does affect everybody.
You know, everyone's pegged to Bitcoin in this case.
And so, of course, you know, we're seeing some, some, some interesting, you know, interesting
things on the charts.
But, you know, when we're like sort of a team behind a token right now, it's like we just
have to focus on, you know, executing and building and just working on our, you know,
our, our side and, you know, the market's going to be the market.
But yeah, I mean, it's, it's been interesting.
It's been a wild week, man.
A lot of news, a lot of, I mean, luckily no one's panicking over some of these announcements,
which is a good sign.
I mean, obviously, you know, you always, you should always look at your risk level and,
you know, make a, make a decision, you know, with, you know, your, your crypto on what you
can, you know, afford to lose in these types of markets.
But at the same time, I mean, I think, I think a lot of people have been through this at this
point, you know, we've weathered the storm a few times from the wind mint side and, you
know, we're just trying to make sure all of our holders know, Hey, we're here, we're not
going anywhere.
You know, we've got lots of options as far as where you can trade and, you know, we're, we're,
we're making more.
So it's been, but it's been interesting.
It's been a wild week.
It's been super interesting function.
What's been your read on everything?
You've been all over this from a lot of different angles.
GMGM, bro.
Man, it seems like energy is coming back into the space.
It feels like people are getting excited again.
I don't think retail is here yet, but it's, it's nice to see that the people that have
been involved in crypto for a while are starting to throw capital back in.
Um, there's new realms that are opening up, you know, you've seen pulse chain come out,
you've seen fucking ordinals, BRC twenties, soon, probably SRC twenties.
All these things are, are, are little momentum trends that I watch for when, when analyzing
markets, uh, especially like as, as we move from like bear territory to bull territory.
I don't know exactly where we are in that, in that movement, but we're definitely leaning
a little bit more bullish recently and yeah, man, as soon as, as soon as I start to see
that stuff, I start to analyze the markets more.
I want to participate a lot more, uh, and, and things get, things get exciting again.
And so, yeah, as, as long as capital keeps flowing and people get interested in new sectors
and new little niches in the crypto industry, I'm just having fun and enjoying it.
It's super, super interesting.
Kyle, I want to bring you into this because you're somebody I haven't really had a conversation
around with this, you obviously are in very established security token markets.
What do you think about everything that's happening here with the mean token markets
in conjunction with all the stuff that went down this week, right?
There's a lot of pieces moving.
And then obviously you've been on a lot of my spaces that we've done with women.
We'll talk in a second quickly to just bring up what's been going on with when token, get
some updates there.
But Kyle, we'd just love to hear your thoughts overall on what's been happening with these
crypto markets.
Yeah, I think it's pretty fascinating because function makes a good point about where we are in the
market, certainly when you're looking at bull and bear market cycles.
It seems like you can tell when the bear market has affected most of and drawn down a lot when
FUD and when bad negative press doesn't seem to actually affect the markets a whole lot.
And I thought that was pretty interesting about what we saw this week was that Coinbase and
Binance both getting sued by the SEC is a pretty big deal.
And yet a lot of the assets and a lot of the market was actually pretty steady and was healthy.
Obviously, it took a dip right on the news, but bounced back pretty strongly, which I think
does show that there's still liquidity in the market and that there's still people that
have underlying value for a lot of this stuff.
And then not to mention on the other side, like, you know, it's fascinating to see how the
SEC tried to name Polygon Matic as a, you know, as an unregistered security in some of their
lawsuits. But yet we're seeing huge banks that are leveraging the Polygon blockchain for issuance
of debt. I do a news show every week where we cover the real securities that are being
transacted. Most of these are debt transactions because they can use stable coins for distribution
and have international payments. And a lot of these different banks are leveraging all kinds
of different blockchains to do this. And it's scaling at such a significant rate. What we're seeing
today versus what we saw a couple of weeks ago, months ago or years ago, it's pretty unfathomable
because of the fact that smart contract settlement, the actual blockchain component here, saves
significant time and cost for banks that are creating and originating different debt products.
There's trillions of dollars of transactions that happen on a monthly basis that JPMorgan,
Goldman Sachs, these different banks do. If they can save two, three percent even on all of those
transactions, which we're seeing, and that's kind of the low end on these markets, you're talking
about tens or hundreds of billions of dollars that these banks can save and reinvest into other
projects or at the very least just send it back to shareholders. So I think there's a lot of strong
incentives to using these new technologies. And that adoption has only skyrocketed in 2023,
despite the price of the markets or the criticisms around how these assets were sold or if they're
securities or not, has had nothing to do with the actual institutional adoption of the technology
for a lot of their business practices. So that's where I spend all of my time. And we've seen that
increase significantly in 2023. And that has no sign of stopping.
Perfect. Okay, quickly, before we dive too much further, do you want to give everybody,
first off, those that are unfamiliar with Wendtoken, a little bit of updates on that? And then
what's been happening since the launch? Yeah, sure, man. I want to start by just saying this
could get long-winded. So I'm going to do my best to be succinct and just kind of let the room
do our normal thing where we kind of get around and talk to everyone. Because I know I could probably
talk the whole rest of the hour on all the things that we're doing. But just so everyone knows,
clearly I'm one of the co-founders of Wendt Mint. It's a Web3 launchpad. We've been in the space for
two years. We've launched hundreds of projects, worked with a lot of great founders, learned a lot from
them, and implemented many of our tools based around what they needed. And along the way, we've
always had a goal of launching a token. That's something that we've always had all these sort
of plans for and different things that we wanted to do. And then, of course, Wendt is a meme. It's
a Web3 meme. So Wendt Lambo, Wendt Moon, Wendt Mint. And so, of course, when meme season hit,
it was like, okay, it's our time. We've got to launch a token here because it is a meme. And
we want to get the Web3 culture, their time in this meme season. So we definitely worked with our
legal team, though, before we launched the token. We had a big legal team there with Lowenstein and
Sandler who helped us kind of come up with our documents and come up with this plan to launch
this token as just a meme coin, meaning there is no intrinsic value. There is no, you know,
if you invest your money in it, you can lose it all. You know, it's just a token, just a meme coin.
And by doing that, you know, we were able to, you know, sort of have a legal argument here that
this is just, you know, just another meme coin. At the same time, we simultaneously launched a DAO.
And so with that DAO, we were able to, as members of the DAO from Wendt Mint and, of course,
the community that's joined the DAO, we're able to introduce proposals and add utility
all around this token. And in just in the last three and a half weeks, you know, we've passed
10 proposals. I put a pinned tweet up at the top there just to show that the DAO is like fully
functioning already. So we're using snapshot gasless voting. We are, I think, nine, nine
proposals have passed and the 10th one is like imminent. It's going to pass. And we've already
started generating funds through the DAO. So not just from the token itself, from our
NFT drop that we did, we're generating tokens right now. I'm sorry, revenue right now. So
it's been, it's been a really fun couple of weeks. Some of the utilities we can maybe dive
into. Again, that's the kind of stuff that we'll be talking for, you know, the whole hour
on, but it's been fun. It's been fun, man. We did drop our NFT collection. It's we're right
in the middle of the mint right now. And with that NFT collection, I'll pin something up
here in a few minutes. You actually get a bag of WEN tokens attached to each NFT, which
is in my, in my, you know, research that I've done. I mean, I could be wrong. I don't think
anyone has ever done that. I mean, of course, lots of NFT projects have come up with the
token and done staking and done things down the road on the roadmap. But, you know, we actually
literally launched an NFT collection and we've attached tokens to every NFT. So it's pretty,
pretty exciting. The art's amazing. The artist is actually in the space right now, somewhere down
there. And it's all AI generated art, but they're one of ones. And the only traits are going to be
the meme, the theme and the token bag. So it's a, it's pretty, pretty interesting collection. And
we're right, sort of like right smack in the middle of that right now.
Okay, sweet. I appreciate all the insights and stuff that have been going on.
Fiddy, you've been on a spaces tear lately. You've been in the thick of everything that's
going on. What's your read on the meme coin scene on NFT fi? I've been seeing these huge
spaces every single night going on from you. I'm not sure. Can you hear me, Fiddy?
I see he's up here, but unfortunately it doesn't look like he is able to speak. Oh, yeah. Yep.
He's trying to unmute. All right. You might have to drop down and come back up, Fiddy. I saw you
try to do that a couple of times. I know it wasn't letting you. In the meantime, bringing it over
to Mary Beth. We'd love to hear some of your thoughts on what's been going on around this scene
and what you think people should be focusing on. Oh, man. Hey, hey, everyone. Mary Beth Salas here.
Thank you so much, Wolf and Quigley and Function for hosting this. What's been going on here on
Twitter? I mean, there are obviously so many discussions just about the whole crypto environment
in general, the SEC. But I am very excited to be here. I did have a couple of questions when we get
to that point for Quigley and the OneToken team. But thank you for having me.
Absolutely. You want to throw out a question here?
Yeah. I mean, so OneToken launched just a few weeks ago, right? And for some people,
it was their first token ever, you know, in participating in something like that. And they
saw kind of the quick rise to it and the fall. And like now it's kind of like stabilized a little
bit. But and I don't mean fall in the bad way. Right. It's just the the it's just the free flow
of tokens these days. So I was just curious for anyone who has, you know, taken the time to buy
into one token. Like what are the next things we of course he turns that on right now? What are the
things we can expect like now? And like I know you had some kind of NFT drop. But what like those
types of drops and those types of activities? How are they playing a role in the overall token?
Yeah, so very good question. And and yeah, I obviously can't get into much of like the price
action stuff. You know, but at the same time, I agree the way things went like the first day. I mean,
it's it's meme season, right? So a lot of people did come over and jump in and we had a really big
first day in the retreat. So I mean, that's just kind of what happened. But as far as you know what to
expect. So obviously, as a Web3 launchpad, we already have a lot of like machinery and
automation built for launching collections, launching tokens. And so right away, some of
the more immediate things obviously is, well, yeah, we launched our own NFT collection, our Genesis
collection here. That's a big deal with NFT Phi is what we're describing this as. And so by adding
those tokens in there, all these all these NFT holders are going to be able to have an allotment
of tokens. And then also, since we are a launchpad, we work with obviously a lot of projects. Right
now, obviously, more people are coming to us about launching tokens. We've already got a couple token
launches lined up for some of the folks in the space like Bullish Trader, Titan from Titan Radio
with his alpha token. And so what we've done is we've decided through that through that sort of
business that we're doing on the Wendman side, that we're going to share some of that love with
our community. So we've already agreed to give 1% of the bull token to our holders. So we're going
to airdrop that. So that's just one example of value that we're going to immediately be able to
produce. And for more revenue, of course, for the Dow and giving our holders more, you know,
sort of more benefit for holding. Then also, and all this goes through the Dow, by the way,
I just want to make sure I continuously say that because of the legal sort of ramifications of me
saying, we're going to just do this and that. It's all legally structured through the Dow. And
all those documents are available on our website. And since I'm not the attorney, I want to always
make sure I kind of mention that. But also, we are in very close to launching an NFTFi marketplace.
So it's an aggregator that we're going to have for NFT trading. It's going to have a DEX. It's going to
have a content aggregation for like social media and like other forms like podcasts and that sort of
thing so that people can have sort of a hub. They can come in and collect and trade and then kind
of just keep up with what's going on. And of course, all that's going to operate through when
we have spun up a legal or I'm sorry, an entity in the Cayman Islands that's going to help us with
doing things like working with sex and market makers. And of course, we're going to be offering
staking on our platform. And so all of that, of course, legally, you know, there's always there's
always fun stuff you got to do to make all that work in the US. But yeah, I mean, that's those
are some of the immediate sort of plans. Some of the proposals, if you do want to take the time to
read through them, they're available on our site, you can go through and read just essentially what
all these utilities are. There's some pretty, pretty amazing stuff already that that we've got
planned, including using when as a gas token. I know it's something people haven't really heard
of before. It's pretty new. It's something that we've worked with very closely with the
zero dev team on this new ERC 4337. Essentially, it's a smart wallet that uses like social media or
other types of accounts to have a wallet. It almost works like a custodial wallet so that you can use
your social media to essentially mint or purchase, you know, digital assets. And so we're going to be
we're going to be one of the first tokens to offer that. The plan there is essentially over the
next few months as we roll out the marketplace and get everything up and running. That'll be one
of the big things that we accomplish. And so I mean, we've, like I said, I can go this whole space
talking about all these things we've got already sort of lined up as long as the Dow is okay with
it and votes it in. But I do encourage everyone to go check out that snapshot from our Dow and you'll
see all of our proposals. When you say using that as a gas token, is that specifically for
only Ethereum based purchases?
Yeah, I mean, so so the ERC 4337 is a it's essentially what Vitalik, one of his proposals
that he came out with. And essentially, it's it's a it's and I'm not an engineer, just so everyone
knows either. I'm I consider myself a dev because I'm more of the idea of an idea person, but I don't
I don't build this stuff. But so essentially, it's account abstraction and, and it uses social
media, another like sort of logins, like web to logins to create a smart wallet. And so maybe we'll
do a whole nother space on that at some point, or I can pin up a link to a zero devs explanation
of it. But, but basically, yes, the sponsored gas, it's like if you're a project and you launch
and you use this ERC 4337 technology, you can sponsor the gas for your, your, your, your
investors or your buyers, you know, so you essentially as the project can decide to do
that. And in this case, like we're going to use when as a gas token so that people can
use so anybody launches with us or just in this space that wants to use our token as
a gas token to sponsor gas, they can do that. Well, once we get it all up and running, I
won't say it's like, ready to go today, we've already built an example that's fully functioning.
It's just that, you know, we want to make sure that we want to make sure that we get
through some of these first, first big steps before we jump down that rabbit hole.
That's really interesting. Thank you so much. I mean, you said that just so naturally. And
I was like, wait a second, that's kind of a big deal. I'll touch on that more. And I definitely
think it think it's an aspect of, you know, the whole when ecosystem that projects could
look into. So thank you so much.
Let's get Fiddy into here. Fiddy, can you speak now?
I can. Can you guys hear me?
Yes. Loud and clear. Perfect. Perfect.
Yeah. Sorry. It's my daughter's performance today at school. So we're just dropping her
off. So she's getting out of the car right now. And that's why I couldn't get on because
I was trying to do 10 different things at the same time. Have a great day.
All right, guys. So we are talking about meme coins. We're talking about Quigley. We're talking
about all this other stuff. And I got to tell you, this meme season has been extremely
interesting. I love what I've been seeing with Win Mint. And I kind of dig with what
I've been seeing with a lot of other tokens. And I've seen a lot of them are not holding
up. And it's funny because I was on the phone with Z yesterday. And I just think with some
cool technology, this is going to be a game changer. The only thing is, I'll tell you, and
I've said this to the rest of the team, this hasn't been degen enough. This hasn't been a
token where you could just go and lose your money. This is a long-term play where you can
actually have something of value. And I don't think people have seen that. So I think once
they grasp that and get the idea that this is actually going to be something that you
can do well with and actually have something long-term, it's going to benefit you for the
next year, two years, three years, four years, and become an ecosystem, people will get it.
So right now, it's not been like Harry Potter or Obama or whatever, where people go in and
put $50, and maybe they'll get $200 after. But then if you don't take it out, it's all
gone. So I just think what you guys are doing is awesome. I'm working with a lot of different
teams and people to get this going. So I'm pretty excited about what you guys are doing.
If anybody doesn't have win, man, I think you guys should look at some of this token. It's
pretty incredible.
Well, Fiddy, walk me through, because I was talking about how you've been hosting these
massive late-night spaces, and you've been having on all types of guests. What have you
been kind of learning about the ecosystem, and who, I guess, who have you been talking
to? I've seen, you've got Ben Eath on there, and other Ben, and Function, a bunch of other
good people. So what's been the focus going on there? Unless you're not jumping on Function.
Did I call that out wrong?
I was just saying, what up? Heard my name. What up, Fiddy? How you living, bro?
I'm good. How you doing, brother?
Good, man. Glad to be here.
So walk me through it, Fiddy. What's been going on during these night spaces? What's
been the topics of discussion that people are focused on right now in this world?
That's a full-loaded question, dude. This is like a whopper. What's been going on is
we've had Ben, we've had BitBoy, we've had Loyal, Cyop, all that stuff that's going on,
and we were spending a lot of time with Ben in the past, and right now we've kind of
taken a little bit of backseat. He did show up, had a few drinks. Drop the word I'm not
a fan of. I'm not going to really go into that and touch too much on that, but we've
been having some really great conversations about people doing some really cool stuff,
and I was very bullish on the delivery of it. We've been talking about SEC. We've been
bringing up some one-of-one artists. Yesterday we featured Shelby. Somebody, the meme wolf
actually had it at an event that we had together, and the conversations have all been very similar.
Everybody's trying to find the next Pepe, and I tell people straight up, I mean, I don't
care how much experience you have or you don't. If you want to get the next Pepe, fantastic.
You'll come one of these days, maybe in a week, in a two, in a month, in a year, in two
years. I don't know. Those things don't come around that long when they hit a billion
market cap. People have to understand, when you invest into a token right now, people
ask me, is it a good idea to buy Pepe? I'm like, no, because you're sitting at roughly
a half a billion market cap as of yesterday. It was a little bit under $500. To make your
$100 into $200, you've got to 2x that project, which is not something that's easy to do.
You have to understand, people bought in at a billion, and they're sitting there waiting
for other people to buy in, and then they're also having a lot of problems with Pepe as far
as there's a lot of activists and so on saying that Pepe is a negative something. I don't
even know. I can't even keep up with the negativity bullshit. I don't do that. And there's a whole
article there about it. Now they've got a petition with the Pepe community. They're trying to
get a signature to overturn that. Now, if they overturn that, does that mean people automatically
buy Pepe? Do we like Pepe because it's a great token? Do we like it because it's a
great meme? Or do we like it because it went to a billion dollar market cap? And that's
something that I'm going to leave up to you guys. I personally don't care what kind of
frog it is or what kind of animal it is. If it hits a high market cap and you put $100
and you took $30 million out, I'm good with that being a toad. I'm good with that being
a gopher or a worm. It really makes no difference. But these are really interesting conversations.
And so we've been kind of breaking down different tokens, going over it. I have not endorsed any.
I haven't. I've spoken about a few. I know you guys have heard me talk about Loyal and
Psyop and there's the orange thing. And I don't even remember what it's called anymore. And
again, I wasn't bullish on those tokens, but I was bullish on a guy who came in, took $23
million for a bunch of idiots, including myself, who sent it to him without us knowing who this
guy is. But he came through and he actually delivered token. Are they doing good? Not really
right now. But do I think he's going to do something good? I hope so. So again, I just
want to say that I'm not taking sides. And the way I'm speaking right now is exactly the
way I speak to him when I'm on Spaces. I talked to him about the SEC. I talked to him about
problems that he could potentially have with jail time. I've talked to him about a lot of
these other things. So it's not something that I haven't been transparent on. I mean, there
are people that are thinking that I'm getting paid by Ben. Absolutely not. I'm not interested
in that. I have a family. I'm not putting myself at risk. This could be extremely dangerous.
It could be completely off. Or it could be completely normal and good if he did everything
the right way, which I don't know if he did or did or don't know that. But really, these
have been the late night conversations, early day conversations. There's a whole room going
up right now with like PSYOP people. We've got Dil, who's got a good token. He's got a token
he put out with supporting musicians. And I support that because he's doing something
with it by giving back to musicians and NFTs. But as far as this token season, it's pretty
fascinating. I do know of a couple of things that are coming out that I'm pretty excited
about. They're backed by some really big companies. And once I do my research, if I feel
comfortable talking about it, I will. Right now, I haven't done that. But right now, it looks
like NFTs are pumping hard. I mean, we've got ENS Maxis is something that I bought into
not about 0.04. They hit 0.1 last night. And the co-founder of Ethereum actually gave
me a shout out on one of the tweets I had. So I'm trying to focus on things that are good,
that are positive in the long term. I'm not I'm not a dump and pump kind of guy. I don't
do that. I've seen a lot of people in the space promoting things. I will not promote something
or put my name or even say I'm going to buy this. I've only bought five tokens. It's pretty
transparent what I bought. I bought one mint. I did send somebody a psyop. I did send somebody
a loyal. I think I bought like some something. I don't even know what it's called. Just like
50 bucks worth. But I don't go heavy on these things. I'm not using this opportunity to make
money. I'm using this opportunity to network. And that's what I think you guys should do because
I've met some really smart people from the token world. And I met some people really smart
people in NFT world and there we can work together. Like right now I'm working with
an NFT and they're they're doing some incredible they call mice media there. They've got an
interview set up with Andrew Tate and Tommy Morrison in the next few weeks. We're trying
to get Andrew Tate on our space last night and he has some contract with another platform
so he can't go on Twitter spaces right now. So I'm focused on people that are doing cool
stuff that are here for the long term that are going to drive the space forward. I'm not
really interested in just just a little poop coin, you know. But what what when men is doing
right now is is pretty incredible. It's technology. It's really not that fun. It's
not that sexy. You're not going to get those big shiny things in the front by saying, you
know, here, drop one hundred dollars. You're going to get forty three million dollars next
week. But it's a nice sustainable token that's actually helping a lot of communities. It's
great for the ecosystem.
Quigley. First off, that was awesome. I love the rundown. You make it super interesting.
And I could see why people like coming into your spaces at night, because I think you
explained this stuff really well. Quigley, what's your breakdown on some of the phenomenons
that have happened and how are you trying to capture them in what you guys are doing
with one mint where people I mean, literally, this has been scaling to the point where, like
Fiddy said, people were literally just sending money to a posted wall.
Yeah, no, I talk about this probably almost every day with our community. So so first of all,
what Ben what Ben did, you know, right was the attention economy concept. Right. We he really
mastered the the the current sort of season that we're in and and really took over for
the most part, especially as an individual. So, I mean, what he did was something that
people should look at when they're thinking about marketing and and again, like just mean
culture and attention and all that. So pretty crazy. But, you know, of course, you know, I
personally, you know, as a launchpad, you know, co-founder, you know, I kind of cringe
a little bit when I see people just sending money around to to people, you know, other
people that don't they don't know. Now, on one hand, I did say this the other day to
Iker, I think it was I was or maybe it was Drew. I was like, you know, at least on one one
aspect of this from a security standpoint, if somebody sends $100 to Ben.Eth, they're not
connecting their wallet to Ben.Eth. Right. So at least I could say, well, they're not
going to get drained. They're just going to risk their hundred bucks. And so if you
had twenty dollars or fifty dollars or whatever it is that you would throw away on
something, I guess, you know, and you were just taking a shot in the dark, I don't I
wouldn't judge you for it. But I do think, you know, I do think that's not the way
that we're going to be sort of like onboarding and doing mass adoption and all
the things that we all talk about all the time. I don't think sending money to
random people is going to be the answer there. I think providing, you know,
infrastructure and safety and easy ways for people to to come into the space is how
that's done. And so that's one of the things that we're doing as a launchpad.
We're working on kind of a couple of things that we can do for, you know,
especially for like people launching tokens to make it easier for for holders
that, you know, and investors to come in. So that's something that we're
definitely working on. But to Pitti's point, I mean, yes, at the end of the day,
I mean, what we're doing is is a long term play. But we are trying to use the meme,
you know, the win meme and sort of building that culture around it. So we're trying to sort of
ride the line there. And that's a challenge in the space. I mean, in this current economy,
I mean, it's it's not easy. And so you're going to run into the Ben.is and the psyops and all that
that are going to sort of like take take the attention and sort of suck the air out of the
room, so to speak. But but we're here, we're not going anywhere. We're gritty. We've already
fought through quite a bit from our launchpad side. And I will say this, maybe this will be a
little edgy for me. I'm usually a pretty nice guy on these spaces. But, you know, when Ben talks
about launching a launchpad, you know, he's going to put up a launchpad. I also cringe
at that. I'm like, Are you kidding me? Like, dude, come on. Like, who are you on the phone
with when you went when side up one sideways? You know, who are you calling? You know, if
you need a Web3 launchpad to help it can come in and save the day, most people, they know
who to call, right? So all I'm saying is like, Come on, you can't, you can't do that. You
can't you can't do why would you launch other people's tokens when you're still trying to
figure out your own. So when token launched, smooth, I mean, super smooth. I mean, everything
we did was, I mean, the way that we launched it, you know, stealth barrel launch, the tokenomics,
the way that we none of the team took an allocation, we just bought like everyone else. No presale,
you know, no, no, you know, nothing like that, right. So I just feel like, you know, that's
that's the way it needs to be done. In my opinion, I mean, I and I have changed a little bit
on the presale thing. Like, if somebody does it in a very fair way, very transparent way,
and it's like open to the public. I don't have as much of an issue with that. I mean,
I don't know how that legally plays out and all that, of course. But you know, at the end
of the day, like, I just don't like the hey, there's, you know, a small group of people that
are secretly getting a presale. They're just going to dump all over everybody once the token
goes live. I mean, I just I can't stand that. And so anyway, that's that's my thoughts on what's
going on right now. It's very interesting to study. I'm a I'm a I'm one of those people
that likes to observe and just kind of watch and see how things go. And it's been pretty
it's it's been a bit of a shit show. But it's been very there's lots of learning sort of
opportunities in this current market. It's it's been fun.
Love the rundown there. I'd actually like to bring Iker in right off that Iker. What have
you been focused on? What's been keeping you busy lately?
Well, definitely good morning, everybody. For those that know me, I go by Iker. I'm one of
the Cooke County team members of Wen and the Wenmin team. And man, we don't really do
these spaces in the evening. I was up late last night doing DJ and stuff. So I kind of
blew through the alarm this morning. But I mean, with with with Wenmin, we've been in
operations for over two years now doing a lot of stuff on the NFT side. So now dipping
our toe back into the coin side of operations. It's been really fun journey, a really busy
journey. There's a I can definitely tell the audience, the sleep schedule is definitely not
looking so strong right now. But all of the all the phone calls, all the builds, all of the
community community interactions that we have enjoyed over the past couple of weeks, as we've
started this one token journey has been really, really, really awesome. And then with the launch
of the winners NFT project, one of the things that we on the Wenmin side have been wanting
to do for a very long time is have a collection of NFTs where people can actually wear the art
as their online personas. And so I've looked through the crowd, and I do see a bunch of
winners down there in the crowd. And it is just really cool being on the operation side where,
you know, a lot of what we have done historically has been supporting all of the clients that we've
launched, and then seeing now something that is ours, where people are really enjoying the art.
And frankly, they're the fact that they're wearing it at all. It's just a really cool,
really cool thing to see. So winners in the crowd, I definitely see you appreciate you showing up
early this morning, and be ready for more more DJ shit tonight, because it's gonna be fun.
Absolutely. I see a bunch of them. I see a lot of apocalyptic apes as well, which we love to see
all the community members coming in here. Shelby, wanna throw some thoughts in the mix on what you've
been up to, what you've been discussing in your spaces? I see you're rocking the orange square as
well. Yeah, I mean, of course, I can jump in for a sec. So I'm mostly a one-of-one artist in the art
space, but I have been jumping around on Vorovic spaces and some other people's as well. But yeah,
I do my weekly spaces and talk about arts and kind of get into the process. And I mean,
last week, I did an ordinal space. Today, I'm doing another ordinal space, because I feel like
it's really important for artists to kind of stay up on what the trends are, and evolve with the
market if you want to get ahead. And I've also been just really excited about ordinals and rare
satoshis and learning all about it, you know, just as it's popping off. But I would love to hear some
thoughts, like, on the overall NFT market and the outlook for the next couple months. Because,
you know, I know WEN is primarily an NFT launchpad. I know you guys are doing tokens now. But I'd just
love to hear, like, you know, we've had maybe a few things happening recently. But the last,
like, month or so during MemePoint season, it was pretty dead. So I'd love to hear, like,
do you guys think we're turning around? It's going to be, you know, heating up this summer?
Function, what do you think? Or Quigley, either one.
No, no. I'll let Function answer that one. I'd love to hear his answer.
Thanks, bro. Man, I hope so. It kind of feels that way, doesn't it? Like, with all the attention
moving over to ordinals and capital flowing in, that if we're being honest with ourselves,
it's not been in the industry for at least a year and a half, two years now. You know,
everything's been going down. Liquidity's been exiting. And this is the first time, at least,
that I'm observing liquidity re-entering the ecosystem. And beyond liquidity entering,
like, people are actually getting excited, right? And I think that's the most – it's the most
crucial factor. The social factor is the most crucial factor in crypto, in my opinion,
because as soon as there's a little bit of excitement, as soon as the energy starts to
circulate again, as soon as people start to get embodied and get back in the game, all of a sudden,
money starts to flow and attention starts to flow. And once those things start to circulate,
I'm not convinced we're fully out of the bear yet. But, like, once that starts to circulate,
you start to see little signs and little hints of, like, oh, bull. This is bullish. This is bullish.
And at least it gives me enough confidence to be, like, okay, cool. If I buy ETH at fucking $2,000,
if I buy it at $1,500, if I buy it at $1,000, it's all good. We're still, like – we're still alive,
we're still moving, and we're still in the right direction. And one of the major things that I
remember specifically from my first bear market was, like, if I'm being 100% honest, like, I got into
crypto at the very, very end of the 2017 bull and then stuck around for the majority of the 2018 to
2020 bear, working every day, doing conferences and events. And there was always a little voice
inside of my head that was, like, is this shit ever going to come back? Like, are we actually
going to have, like, an ecosystem that survives? Or is Bitcoin going, like, back to $100 and we're
all fucked? And I've talked to a couple people recently who this was their first cycle, and
then they were kind of experiencing the same things. And I think this portion of – I'll just
call it a bull period. I don't know if we're fully bullish yet in terms of a full bull market,
but this bull period is just, like, a reminder to all of us of how fucking fun this industry can
be. You know, I think a lot of people get really down in a bear market. A lot of people constantly
get bamboozled or called this or that, and everybody's angry because they lost money. And
it can be really – like, it can be really a downer, if I'm being honest, for a lot of people. It's – the
social factor of this is what makes it fun. And when the social factor is really just filled with a
lot of negativity and draining energy, like, it's understandable that people want to step
away and want to get some time away. And the period that we're in right now is almost reminding
all of us that this is a fucking fun industry. It's reminding us why we came here. It's reminding
us that it's not only about making a lot of money. It's not only about creating cool things,
but it's also about human connection. It's about us being able to relate with one another in an
ecosystem that no one knows where it's going. And no one really knows, like, what's next or what's
big. And that's the factor that excites me the most. It's the factor that keeps bringing me back
to this place over and over and over again is the fact that there's some fucking awesome humans here.
And when we're all, like, really living with, like, an open heart and when we're really living
with creativity flowing and passion and excitement, whether it's the dgens just making a bunch of
money flipping their NFTs, whether it's the builders that are grinding and creating products that allow
us to be viable and to actually, like, thrive in the ecosystem. That's what it's all about. It's about
the human connection. It's about the fact that you can be in a group chat and be talking about
Pepe going to a billion dollar market cap when it was at one million a couple weeks ago and the
excitement and the energy that comes from that. And whether or not we're fully bullish yet,
like, this bull period is a good reminder of why we're all here, what excites us, and hopefully
it's a good reminder for people who have maybe taken a little bit of a break or have stepped away
a little bit to remind them that, like, this shit's here to stay and we're here to play a really fun
game and let's all get back in it. Hey, real quick, Wolf, just speaking of fun,
we got, I don't, I think we're going to the top of the hour, right? So let's say in the next 10
minutes on our, on the, and this is for any of our winners that are hanging out down there,
anybody who's new, anybody who mints in the next 10, I'm going to pull one winner for 250 bucks in
USDC. I know I don't normally do giveaways on your Space Wolf, but I just have to, man. We're in the
middle of a mint. So I want to, I want to shower somebody with some love while we're up here.
And, um, and there's a couple other things pinned up at the top there. If you guys want to check
those out, there's some massive giveaways going on, uh, you know, throughout the mint. So definitely
check it out. But I just want to put that out there and function due to a hundred percent, man.
That's your, your take is, is that it's very, very, very like very close to where I'm at,
you know, mentally, like with, with what's going on. So I appreciate that take, man.
Of course, bro. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a good reminder, you know, because I think
at least in my personal experiences, as you go through a bull market and you make insane
amount of capital or you have an insane amount of attention on the internet, um, because everything's
pumping, it can be, if I'm being honest, it can be very, very easy to forget that we're
all human, especially when a lot of us are living behind anon accounts, uh, and we're not showing
our faces or talking on spaces. It can be very, very easy to forget that. Um, and I, I just,
I want to just like amplify that, like, that's really why we are all here. We're all in, um, uh,
this ecosystem in the, the, like beyond making money, beyond building things. We're all here
to like create human connection and to, to experience what an ecosystem is like that isn't
defined yet. You know, we're not living in a corporate world. We're not living in a box structure
that has been defined for 20 or 30 years. We are constantly in an ever changing chaotic ecosystem
that, um, is constantly evolving and constantly moving. And we have to adapt to that. Um, and so
there's no possible way that we could do it alone. Anyone can do it alone. Um, and the, the ability
for us to all stay connected to our humanity and remember why we're here is what's going to also make
it fun, uh, and hopefully more fun in the next bear market. What a nice rundown. And at the same
time, I see sugar Shane popping in. Okay. And we got some other good people up here as well that I do
want to hit. We got stacky hanging out with us. Stacky, you've been keeping up with when token and
this mint that's going on. Yeah, I know all about what's going on. Hey everybody.
Hey, how's everybody? I just got in. So I'm kind of like catching up on what everybody's talking
about. If you're talking about meme coins, I actually stayed away from meme coins this session.
You guys, I'm sorry, but I came around in 2013, got a lot of money locked up in meme coins. So,
uh, not meme coins so much. So it's shit coins. But, uh, so I, I kind of relax a little bit when it
comes to all the hype. Um, if I was to get in anything is when you guys don't like it. So,
you know, I try not to catch those waves, but you know, there's that. So I'm here.
Gotcha. Stacky. Well, we appreciate you popping in Shane. What's been going on by you?
Not too much. Sorry. Uh, running a little late. I'm, I'm in mountain time, so I'm still taking,
I've only been here a day or two. So I'm adjusting to all the East coast,
central mountain time. So, yeah, I'm, you know, I kind of stepped, stepped in the right time. I'm
doing exactly, um, what you guys are talking about. I'm in the middle of the mountains, just
doing nothing. Um, you know, I wanted to come and support my friend when, when minutes,
I just love everybody at this project anymore, but these are the kind of people that I do work with.
And, and, and Zorf and all the guys also understand that it's family's important. So I just like the,
well, the round in this of them, because that's what I'm all about. I'm all about, uh, working hard,
playing hard, family, morality, all those things. So, uh, I really, you know, just want to be a part
and support the guys and girls. Yo, if you're near a Boulder, bro, hit me up. Yeah. I might come into
Boulder and see a bunch of friends cause there's a lot of, I'm in the domain space. There's a,
a big company there. A lot of, I mean, Boulder's an amazing town. So yeah, absolutely. If I'm in
town, I'm going to start hitting my DMS and let everybody know I'm up in Leadville actually
up in the mountains. Uh, I'm here to climb a couple of mountains and train. I'm an old guy,
but I love to run and there's no better way to train than at 10,000 feet.
That's fucking sick, bro. Well, let's grab a beer. If you make it into Boulder.
Absolutely. Yeah. I was in Denver last week. Uh, cool spot.
Dude, Denver's pretty fucking sick too. Were you there for the, uh, for the finals or what?
No, I wish maybe if Miami had completed the sweep in time.
Yeah. Would have been nice. Would have been nice. Uh, okay. Uh, so just recently,
centering a little bit, we've got about 15, 16 minutes left on here. I want to give a big thank
you to this panel that's up here. If you're in the audience and you're looking for awesome people
in web three to be following, this panel is like no other. We've got some great thought leaders as
well as people who just have a ton of interest in involvement within the space. So highly recommend
scanning through them, checking them out, give them some follows. And then of course,
if you haven't already checked out the pinned tweets up top, uh, we're all big supporters of what
women's doing. I think they lead the way in this space, right? Obviously they worked with over a hundred
projects on that launch pad. They have fully docs team. They've been able to raise funding. Uh,
they've been able to do a lot of stuff within the space. That's been very impressive and they've
helped push it forward in many ways, shape and forms. They're doing some massive giveaways. There
is a bunch of stuff that's being given away. And then like quickly said, another $250 just got added
onto that. That's being given away. If you do get it on that mint links are on top of the space to
check out the mint. Plus you could just go to the when token org, which is linked in the top of the
space to make that super easy as well. So there's a number of ways to get behind this. Um, and we're
just excited to be having this conversation. It's a pretty interesting time. I think most of us have
had some excitement in the meme coin space, whether it's been through a, uh, when token, whether it's
been through some of the others that are around here, but all in all, I think everybody's just
trying to stay curious, right? What's coming next, what's happening next? What are the involvements
and developments in this space that we should be paying attention to? So that's everything that's
standing out to me quickly. You got some thoughts on that?
Yeah. I just want to emphasize a couple of things to kind of follow up on, on, on these
questions. So first off, like from my perspective, obviously working with all these NFT projects
and, you know, spending a lot of time with their founders and communities and whatnot. Um, I've
recognized right away with, with, uh, meme season kicking off with Pepe specifically. And now some
of these other tokens that have come along that this really is like, what they're doing is it's very
similar to what we did in the NFT space. Like they're, they're building these communities around
these tokens. And until meme coins came along, there really wasn't that right. I mean, it was,
you know, if you're a Bitcoin maxi, I mean, that's one thing, but like, you didn't have like a discord
group with like thousand people in there every day, you know, sharing, sharing stories and sharing
resources and helping each other. It's a completely different world now with these, uh, meme, meme,
meme coins. And so I think that there's so much overlap now with what we're doing on the, uh, you know,
the NFT side with what, you know, was going on in the, in the space on the meme coin side. So there's,
there's tons of overlap there. And I think there's a lot of interesting sort of, uh, interplay
that, that we can look at and including what we're doing sort of our play on this is we're
going to really, really focus in on this NFT fi, uh, environment so that we can take this
community and like these, these, uh, eco, this ecosystem that we've built and really like
find ways to, uh, you know, sort of merge this current token season that we're in this, you
know, this new little mini bull that we're in and push everyone back towards an NFTs, but
also like have a heavy focus on, you know, the, the defy, the, the, the actual, um, you
know, token side of things. So that's where I'm at with it. I think it's, uh, we're in
a really, I think a special place right now where, you know, there's going to be some
big winners, some real big winners, by the way, that was winners, not winners. Uh, for
those of you in the crowd that are wearing your winners down there, we love you, but you
know, there's going to be a few losers, but you know, we're, we're, I feel like building
for the, for the bull is what we've been doing this whole time. And, uh, we're well
positioned now with what we've got built here to, uh, to take, take advantage.
I love it. Staki?
I just think it's so beautiful how everybody is like, like the NFT community is now like
just meme coin crazy. Right. I think it's so, I think it's so cute. Like, you know, they
took that little community, uh, aspect of everything and like, uh, enhanced that. But, um, I kind
of just been sticking on the tech side of things, trying to figure out new, new, different
new things that we can do with blockchain technology. I'm actually speaking in a few, a few different
places. I'll be in DC. Um, I'm going to the babes and blockchain event, um, out in, I think
it's, uh, uh, Dallas. Uh, so I'm kind of exploring like, uh, just, just like different communities
within the blockchain and, uh, technology space. So, uh, yeah, that's what I've been
doing. I'm trying to figure out more things to do with, with the tech that we have built.
So, you know, I'm, I'm exploring for you guys, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, maybe
I'll come back with like a ton of information, but, but I'm, I'm so deep into this thing that
I don't know, uh, my head from a hole in the ground. I don't know, but, but it's, it's
very interesting. Um, the things that have been built and the things that are, are being
built using blockchain technology and, and other things too, like AR, uh, VR, um, haptic
feedback, um, you know, just, just a ton of things going on in tech and, and, you know,
I'm exploring. Yeah. So wish me luck.
Yeah. We, we love to hear it, Stacks. I'm glad to hear you're, you're staying
focused on what you're doing and building. And we appreciate you for always being around
and supporting what we're doing. It's, uh, it's, it's a great, it's great to have you
around and, and, uh, we totally fully support your mission. So.
I love women, of course.
Now that's what I wanted to say.
Mary, man!
Yeah, I just, I just wanted to point out that, uh, that one of the most important things
in this space is people not chasing or leaving. And that's, that's one thing I was going to
say that's most important about women is, um, this team has been around for years and
they're still here. We're still up in this space is talking about their coin. They haven't
started another coin. They're not flipping to another project. They're constantly working
on it. And, you know, when you're looking for a business partner, when you're looking
for a partner, when you're looking for anything, you want somebody that's going to always be
there. And that's, that's what I love. You know, Zorf constantly is DM me about new things
and new contracts he found and new technology. And that's the kind of people I love to be
around. They're always paying attention and they'll always be there and always participating
in the space. I really think that's an important part of everything going on here is they are
in the space. They're not chasing the newest shiny object. They're just, they're looking
at it and they're finding out if it fits into their project and adding on. So that's something
that I think is really important in our space.
I absolutely agree with that. Definitely some strong points from the panel. So quickly,
walk us through, because we've got about 10 more minutes here. What are you guys focused
on next week? Is the Mint really the main focus? And then outside of that, what has been
going on inside the Telegram? What has been going on inside of other areas? Every time I come
in there, there's like a thousand new messages. So what have you really been seeing from the
community and what would you want to talk to people about here?
Yeah. So, so the community is, is awesome. I mean, we've sort of, I won't say that we've
like handpicked any of these people, but I do feel like we've helped like encourage the
right types of people to come into our community. I mean, obviously it's a, you know, if anyone
wants to buy when they can buy when, but as far as the community growth and like how we're
getting together, we have both a Telegram where there's, you know, a few thousand people
in there just every day, just really having fun, sharing memes and make, you know, obviously
we're giving them a sort of announcements and that sort of thing there. And then we also
have a token gated DAO discord where that's where all the proposals kind of come to life
and everyone discusses, you know, what's going on on the governance side. And then of course,
there's also a channel in there for the winners collection. So anyone who's minted or wants to
mint, uh, one of those NFTs can jump in there and ask questions and, and, and join that conversation.
But yeah, I mean, so right now this week, um, you know, this is an open edition or open
collection. I'm sorry. So essentially like we're going to mint until Monday at four 20, uh, or until
we hit 10,000, uh, NFTs. So either way, that's when the mint ends for Ethereum. And, um, and we do
have, I know Zorf wanted to be here in the space, but he had a little family thing he had to take
care of this morning, but, um, he was going to give you guys some pretty big alpha. Uh, I'll just
kind of frame it as best I can without maybe totally stealing his thunder. So essentially,
uh, with when mint, what we've done, um, everything that we've done has been built for scale. And so
everything is EVM compatible. So all of our contracts, all of our machinery that we've built
over the last two years, um, we've launched on other chains, um, you know, any EVM chain, of course,
and we've done some other non EVM chains, but primarily our main focus has been Ethereum. And then
any chain that is essentially compatible with Ethereum. And so all of our, all of our, um,
current builds, including the token, um, is going to be bridged to all of these EVM chains. And so you
can trade, you know, from any of these other, um, ecosystems. So that's one, one piece. Um, and then
that sort of leads into staking. And so anybody who holds that token, obviously on these other chains
is going to be able to stake for when, uh, on our platform. And then I guess, I guess what I'll say
is this, um, this NFT collection, uh, we, we announced it as an Ethereum, uh, collection and
kind of gave some parameters as to what the mint, you know, the mint was going to look like.
And, um, yeah, so everything we build, including any NFT collection that we launched, um, we could
easily put on other chains, right? So I guess I'll leave it at that. And hopefully everyone can read
between the lines and I'll, I'll let, I'll let Zorf make the actual announcement whenever he gets
around to it. But yeah, so, so cross chain, in my opinion, that's another big piece of the sort of
like, you know, going forward to the next year or two, we're going to have to do this. We're going
to have to do this, uh, the things that we're doing, uh, we can't just stay on Ethereum, right?
I mean, we've got to move on these other chains. We've got to open up the ecosystem, extend the table
and not make it such a, you know, sort of like, you know, uh, divided, uh, space, right? So that's,
that's part of our plan, uh, to unite web three under one, uh, sort of, uh, umbrella that,
so to speak quickly. That's also my plan right now. So contact me seriously.
100%. Yeah, no, I know. I watch, I'm watching, I'm always, I'm, I'm on observer. I just,
you already know, like I'm, I'm ready to work with you anytime. So definitely let's, let's chat again
and, um, see what we can, what we can dream up. I mean, that's the beauty by the way of what we were
doing. And I, I always made this point. Um, you know, anytime we get into one of these spaces
about what we're doing, uh, you know, when it's like a 10 person team, you know, we've got a ton
of like awesome people on our team, big, big brains, big thinkers. Uh, but at the same time,
there's only 10 of us, right. But now with the Dow, uh, we've got thousands of people that can help us
make these types of decisions and plans. And so, you know, we, we are so excited to have, you know,
this big, large community where all these ideas can be sort of like kicked around and developed
and proposed, proposals can be put up and we can vote on what we're going to do with this,
uh, this technology. So we're, we're, we're really excited about that aspect.
Function, maybe I can pull you in on that. I would love to get your thoughts on, you know,
expanding cross chain, making moves to that. Is that really what you see as the future of all
these projects?
I'm sorry. Can you repeat that question?
Yeah. We were talking a little bit about, you know, Quigley's goal and women's goal is to really
expand cross chain, move off just being on Ethereum, kind of bring all of crypto together.
Do you feel like there's still a lot of division between different chains and that's something
that's kind of the next big steps to solve?
Yeah, I definitely think there's division in between chains, you know, there's some, there's
some good aspects of tribalism and a lot of negative aspects of tribalism, right? Like, uh,
tribalism allows people to come together and really unite around a single cause, but it
also creates a lot of division. Sometimes, uh, we've seen probably the most prevalent example
of that being Solana versus ETH last bull run, you know, Solana's for the poors. That's what
all the youth people would say constantly. Uh, even though I made the, probably the large
majority of my money on Solana. Um, and so I think there's like benefits and negatives to
it. Um, and I also think that we're moving in a way towards the, like through the ecosystem
where like, if you become too tribalistic, you're putting yourself in a box, uh, and
you're limiting yourself from opportunities. Um, a lot of people who follow me may see me
talking about ordinals and BRC twenties and pulse chain and Solana and all these things.
And that's really because I'm genuinely curious. Like I am, uh, after being in this industry
for five years, I'm in the full understanding that I don't know what the fuck's going to
be big. I really don't know shit. Um, and the only way for me to be able to stay on top
of trends, to be able to stay in the moment is to really release most of my bias and just
continue to stay curious and, and, and, and educate myself. Um, the, like, I have no doubt
that Solana will still do great. I have no doubt that ETH will be fantastic. I have no
doubt that all of these chains will be fantastic. And, um, understanding that like, you really
don't know what the fucking next big thing is and keeping your eyes open, uh, your heart
open, your, your eyes like, uh, uh, uh, watching the ecosystem constantly is really the only way
to be early to things. Um, it really, it's really one of my main prevalent things, whether
I'm investing or whether I'm creating the projects that I'm creating or whatever it is,
it's like, you never know what's going to be next. Uh, you never know what's going to
be relevant, especially six months from now, even like one month from now. Like if you look
back three months, four months ago, most people didn't know about ordinals. Um, even a month
ago, most people didn't know about ordinals and now it's the second largest marketplace
behind Ethereum in terms of NFTs, uh, for volume. So it's, it's really just about like
continually recognizing that you don't know what's going on and paying attention, uh, to
the things that are going on. And really the final, final component is it is you gotta have
some balls, you know, you gotta be able to take risks into situations and, and, and environments
and, and new ecosystems that, uh, may not seem, uh, uh, relevant now, uh, but could be
relevant in six months, could be relevant in 12 months. And whether that risk is you investing
or whether that risk is you just spending time and energy focused on that sector and ecosystem
so you can educate yourself. Uh, uh, it's, it's really the main component that I'm always
leaning on as, as I navigate this ecosystem. Perfect. And quick comment here from
Saki? Cause I do have to close out just a minute. I actually have another meeting at 12.
I know. I looked at the time. I'm like, okay, I know I'm, I'm going to get the buzzer,
but, um, just like what function said, holy shit. So I dropped Saki. I was on Solana, right?
You guys know, most of my friends are at Eat the Maxis. You already know, you know,
I ain't with it. So, but I've always, the reason I got into the NFT space is, you know,
you know, Wolf, where I come from, FinTwit, financial Twitter. And, and it's just like,
I wanted to explore, I wanted to explore all these different, um, aspects of, you know, trading
and you, you get into the NFT space and it was trading, you know, that people were trading
NFTs and things like that. And what happened is this kind of opened me up a little bit more to
like the different possibilities when it came to, to the technology here. But, uh, and if I wasn't
open-minded enough to do that, I wouldn't even be here in the first place. So, so there was no way
in, in the world that I was going to sit here and just be like, Oh, I'm, you know, a chain.
I'm a chain maxi. Cause I'm like, Hey, like, no, I'm here for the, I want to know what's going on.
Like, I want to know what's up with the technology. Like, I want to know, uh, what we're actually
building here. And I couldn't, I couldn't sit and be like, Oh, I like this certain NFT.
So I'm just going to sit here and I hate on every other piece of technology that's here in this
ecosystem. So I 100% agree with you. And in order to either, you know, make money
if that's what you're here for, um, or to explore the technology, if that's what you're
here for, you, you really can't sit still. Like you really can't, uh, say, you know,
I'm just here for Solana. I'm just here for ETH because, you know, I honestly, they serve
a different, they serve same purpose, but you know, different, they're different, two different
chains. And, uh, the reason I hopped on Solana was the scalability and the ease of use.
Right. And also, um, you know, just, you know, being able to build a dap on top of
it. Right. And, you know, the fees. So, you know, yeah, there's, there's so many different
reasons for you to use these chains, but you don't have to be, you don't have to be biased.
You just don't, you know, so get out your little feelings. And, uh, obviously if you're
an ETH maxi and you have a orange square, uh, yeah, that's Bitcoin. So, you know, that's
something different than what you're used to anyway. So I would just use that to open
up your mind a bit and to kind of just explore more. You know, I, I have an H bar NFT. I
have a, uh, Cardano, uh, I explored over in Crow. So, Oh, it's, that was two minutes that
fast. But anyway, you guys, I'm Stacey Robinson. Go ahead. Give me a follow. We can talk more
later. All right, Wolf, go ahead.
I love it. Yeah. These hours with women do fly by. I want to give a big thank you to
the entire panel. Sorry, we didn't get to you mice. Uh, I have to get you up here earlier
on the next one quickly. Uh, and Iker, I'm going to give you guys final comments and then
I can literally see the person's in the call waiting for me. Iker, anything else you want
to add on to this one?
No, we'll make quick. Thanks everybody. We'll see you next time.
Thanks Wolf. Appreciate you.
Thank you. Peace out.
Yep. See you next time guys.
It's all good.
All right, everybody. Have a great day of your Friday. I'm going to about to dive into
about six hours of back-to-back meetings. Have fun, everyone.