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@XCohost Launch Party 🎈
Recorded: Oct. 15, 2024 Duration: 1:24:22Space Recording
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Hello everyone, welcome back to my channel, and welcome back to my channel, and welcome back to my channel.
okay okay all right i'll take it on over sarah i appreciate you kicking it off for us
shout out sarah at the ex-cohost team leading the ex-cohost account making sure that we have a
smooth ride i'm going to play a little music play a little music in um i'm going to say let's keep
the speakers light because we have a lot of people coming up how about we just hang out with the
speakers we have with us for now and then we'll keep adding them up a little bit after we kind of
play in some music and give everybody a chance to join on in if you haven't already drop me a little
comment in that little purple box i'm not the one usually to ask but this is a special day and a
special day requires a special ask uh please drop me a little comment drop me a little retweet if
you're feeling cute you can absolutely remove that retweet after the twitter space is over it will not
hurt my feelings i understand that we're all trying to capture that elon check and i don't want to get
in the way of it but other than that let's just uh hang out for a little bit while we wait for everybody
to join
It was the 3rd of September, the day I'll always remember, your sign with me, oh, that was the day that my daddy died.
I never got a chance to see, never heard nothing but bad things about you, mama, I'm depending on you, tell me the truth.
Mama just hung her head and said, sir.
Papa was a rolling stone, wherever he laid his hat was his home, and when he died, Papa was a rolling stone.
Papa was a rolling stone, wherever he laid his hat was his home, and when he died, Papa was a rolling stone.
Papa was a rolling stone, wherever he laid his hat was his hands.
Hey mama, is it true what you say, but Papa never brought your day in good luck?
And mama, that talk went around town, said that Papa had pretty outside children, and another wife, and that ain't right.
And the pastor talked about Papa doing some school front preaching, talked about shaving soaps, and all the time I can meet you, dealing in that, and stealing the name of all.
While we're dealing with smart horses going, but when we're at home, never brought their money on it alone.
He's the one that we're at home, never brought her money on the road.
It's cute Pilots!
While we're dealing with smart horses going, but when we're at home, never brought their money on the road.
Welcome, welcome, welcome, everybody.
I know everybody's still just kind of getting tuned back into the room.
I'm sure some of you probably went to go do something else while playing some smooth
rides for us to hang out to while we get the space going.
But I first just want to say thank you, everybody, for taking the time out of your calendar,
out of your schedules, out of your busy, busy spaces schedules.
I know all of your schedules.
I know how much you all do spaces.
So I'm really grateful for how much time you all take some time out to hang out with us
to make some really cool announcements and talk about reshaping the future of spaces,
reshaping the ways we can use spaces to grow as creators, as entrepreneurs, as friends.
And yeah, I have some really great people on stage with me.
I started already allowing some people up.
I'm going to be kind of sparse with that because obviously we're all spaces hosts.
So just ahead of time, I'm going to ask if this is going to be a mostly me engaging with
you chat.
So if you're uncomfortable with that and you want to drop the listeners, totally cool.
I just have a lot I want to get out in this next hour.
And also, also want to mention that we already, already have a Twitter space scheduled.
It's on ex-cohosts already.
And if it isn't, Sarah, help me out with that.
Make sure that keeps published in the background.
But we have a feedback session for after the product comes out of public, out of beta,
essentially.
So I first just want to say thank you, everybody, for taking some time out of the schedule.
We got whatever, man, on stage.
Bro, as I was glazing your content from Token 2049, bro, you were fucking everywhere, man.
How are you?
How was Token 2049?
Yo, what is going on?
I, yo, first and foremost, I want to apologize to you because I've been, I've been tapped
I'm tapped in in Web3, but I've also been, uh, what's the word?
Like, I'm, I'm bullish on you, but I haven't been paying attention because just, I'm an idiot.
You know, I, like, I, I do want to.
You know, I want to just make sure that we understand I'm a fucking idiot because, you
know, sometimes people say, yo, I'm building this dope ass product.
And then you're like, oh yeah, for real.
And then they're like, but you faded, you fucking retard.
And it's like, oh shit, my bad.
So bro, I'm bullish on you.
Absolutely.
Shout out to Don Paolo as well.
Because he recently, he came up on my stage and he was like, oh, I got to meet Kaelin through
you and all that stuff and blah, blah, blah.
And I was like, this is cool.
I like this.
I like when I introduce one person to another.
I like this.
This is what Web3 is about.
So why was Singapore dope?
Because that's what it is.
That's what it is, right?
It's network effect.
You get to meet all these people that you're like, wait, weren't you a PFP yesterday?
I was like, yeah, I am.
I'm still that PFP.
And it's like, oh, that's you.
So yeah, Singapore was crazy, bro.
Singapore was really cool.
And you know what?
The thing is, it happened in a way where right before this whole crazy euphoric, I guess,
volatility in the market.
And we knew it was going to happen because it was like summertime chop.
How many times we heard it?
We talked about it.
And then you meet all these people and you're like, bro, there was 700 side events.
And apparently.
Dude, token is always that crazy, man.
Bro, this was crazy because they said there's been like 20,000 attendants for the actual conference,
which was like a record.
So I'm bullish on guys like you, man.
Guys like you that are building the space.
You're carving out a niche for yourself.
I feel like sometimes that I feel like I'm in the mobile online conference business.
It's like it feels slightly like that.
It's just like the online conference world of Web3.
Oh, my God.
You know what?
I don't want to I don't want to derail the space and just people think like, oh, whatever, man.
Shut the fuck up.
Let.
No, bros.
You didn't derail it.
Here's what I'll say.
I accept your public apology on my Twitter space, bros.
I'm just joking.
No, no, no, no.
I'm just saying I'm just saying you caught me at a really good stage in my builder season.
If you had faded me a little bit earlier in my season, I might have been like a little bit upset with it.
But, dude, I've been getting doors slammed on my face with Rex Coast for so long.
You have no clue, bro.
Like the doors have been slammed on my face, bro.
Whenever someone doesn't see the vision, I'm just like, man, the light's just not big enough.
We got to make it brighter.
And it's OK.
You know, that's all.
And it's no love lost.
You said something that's very, very important.
And I just want you to lean in on it on that exactly because I felt the same thing.
So in in Toronto, I went to right before token 2049, I went to a conference.
It's called ETH Toronto and all that stuff.
And I just stood there and I listened to some of the speakers and stuff and it hit me.
I was like, wait, spaces is literally that an online conference.
And that's exactly what you're in.
That's the business that you're in.
So shout out to you for pulling it off.
It's not the easiest thing.
Like I'm a spaces host and sometimes people ask me, like, what the fuck do you do?
I'm like, well, instead of explaining spaces hosting, I just say, hey, I do public speaking.
So for you to pull this off, this is you literally creating a conference.
So shout out to you, man.
I'm very, very bullish on you and ex-co-host.
Sincerely appreciate that, Bruce.
You know, definitely didn't need to say all that.
And I'm very grateful that you did, my friend.
I think at the end of the day, ex-co-host is a very young product.
It's really young, guys.
It's like June was like when we were really bringing it out of like a testing environment
in July.
I think it was only in July where you could actually use it and upload your own spaces
and not have to have like 30 telegram groups open with the ex-co-host team to make it happen.
You know, so I don't want to like, I don't want to act like it's been like this perfect
ride through.
But what I can tell you is that I built it for me.
I knew what I wanted.
And I knew that what I wanted for spaces and what was wrong with that.
Then I started building it for people who never did spaces.
And then the only next iteration I was talking to Gasboat about this before this Twitter
space was that, you know, building Twitter space features for people who don't do Twitter
spaces is learning how to do spaces from zero to one.
But learning how creators use spaces is all about like going from like two to 10.
You know, the range there is absolutely crazy.
So the creator program is really what actually really pushed the ex-co-host team to start
pushing really, really hard on features that were more enrichment features and not just
features for like organizing a Twitter space like segments and number of people on the segment
and other things I want to talk about that I haven't started leaking yet on this Twitter
space.
But none of that, let's keep it rolling.
Whatever, man.
It's OK.
You're my favorite derail host that joins the Twitter space.
And I told all of you that this is going to be a space filled with spaces hosts.
So you already know how this is going to go.
I'm not going to interrupt you, but I'm going to very quickly derail this again and bring
it back into circle.
But love you, bros.
I sincerely appreciate it.
Matt, welcome, my friend.
Appreciate you joining us on stage.
Where are you calling from in the world?
Uh, I'm in Lisbon.
I'm in Lisbon.
Um, yeah, rainy, rainy Lisbon it's turning into.
Uh, nice to see you out in the wild again.
Whatever, man.
Glad to hear you had a good time.
Welcome back.
Uh, I'm stoked that this is happening, dude.
I've been kind of telling my peers in my little marketing group and, um, just fuck, just doing
the Lord's work, Kalen.
Shilling, shilling ex-co-host and trying to get more users over there.
So, I'm stoked that, um, this Thursday is my first, uh, space that I'm, I'm getting
off the ground here with it.
So, uh, to many more, to many more.
Thanks for doing it.
Too many more, bros.
Too many more.
And one thing I'll say that I'm super stoked to talk about is the speaker demand and what
we're going to be doing to increase just native users on ex-co-hosts after our launch
party.
I'm super stoked to talk to you all about, like, what we can expect coming next.
Got some really crazy stuff in the works.
But grateful for you, Matt.
And I'm super excited for your first space.
I've been kind of monitoring all the first creator spaces on ex-co-hosts.
And one thing I love to tell people is that, you know, the space that you list on ex-co-hosts,
they're not just listed on there.
And we just hope everything goes well.
Uh, we have an entire backend of our platform that we've built that allows Sarah, actually,
who's behind the ex-co-hosts account right now, to be able to even suggest spaces to speakers
that are in our network based off the topic that you're covering as well.
Uh, and we're going to continue to expand those features, which allows us to, like,
drive more attention traffic to specific topics where we know there's a lot of demand for
Uh, it's definitely, uh, going to be a bit of a zigzag there.
But really cool stuff to talk about.
I want to talk about that more.
We have some more people up on stage with us.
Depot just hopped up on with us.
My friend, how are you doing today?
And I'm grateful for you to join us.
Hello, hello, Kellen.
Hi, everyone.
I'm Depot, and I'm happy to be here.
Uh, you know what, Kellen?
You've been getting flowers left, right, and center, which is fine.
Uh, I just want to say congratulations to you, uh, for, you know, building X-Coast, and
congratulations to everyone, uh, me included, and all of the hosts as well, because you are
building something really cool, and I just want to see you succeed.
Super grateful for you, bros.
You know, one thing I was talking to, you know, Gaspo about before this Twitter space is,
we will do a really good job at X-Coast if the shows grow as X-Coast grows.
And that should be our approach as we scale.
The truth is, you know, the reason why platforms like Kik have done so well is because they've
been, they've ensured that when Kik had a contact, they shared that contact with, uh, different
streamers, right?
Kik actively sourced opportunities for their streamers, and I'm telling you right now that
the X-Coast team is looking at that very, very, very, very, very, very, very similarly
about how we can, uh, how can we get a steam power to come join Arrow's Twitter spaces,
right?
How can we get, uh, a really crazy guest to start joining the creator spaces we're working
with, bros.
So I'm grateful that you're team X-Coast, but I want you to know X-Coast is team host,
and I'm super grateful for you to be a part of this with us and take this challenge with
us, bros.
We have some more people up on stage, but I want to start getting into some of the
announcements, and I think we're just going to start doing floating intros.
That just means if you didn't get a quick yell out when we start getting into the discussion,
if you did an intro, just start with an intro.
And I think that'd be a safe way to kind of roll into all of this.
Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool.
Everybody's a spaces host pro on the stage.
Everyone's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We get it.
I love it.
Um, I feel like X-Coast spaces have that one weird factor where there's always hosts and
the discussions we have end up going really left field.
So I'm going to just want to drive it home.
Um, X-Coast has grown a lot, uh, tremendously.
I mean, God, so much more than I think Tori and I could have ever had imagined in like late
2022, early 2023.
Uh, we never imagined this many people were going to, you know, do this with us and be
crazy about what we're building with us.
And yeah, I never thought this many people would pull up to a Twitter space to care about
what we were building.
I always thought that this was going to be more of like one of those, you know, industry
products that a few people use here and there, but it was never going to be a point where
there'd be thousands of users and thousands of hosts potentially.
So I'm just really grateful to say that we've gotten to this point now where we're ready
to take X-Coast out of beta and X-Coast this entire time has been in beta.
And what beta just means to X-Coast was that we really didn't want to risk all of everybody's
information, the spaces they're joining, all that just to be out there on a, on a silver
platter for anybody to go in and copy.
When I started building X-Coast, we believed that we felt like we had something that was
super novel, super unique for X as a product that we could bring to the market that could
really solve a lot of problems.
You all know my background and what I do with Mario.
You all know what I did in terms of his producing his spaces.
I took a lot of knowledge from that.
And I took the same thing from Animoca brand spaces and the same thing from when I was
working with Play Big Time spaces.
You know, when I was working with all these brands, I just took this knowledge.
I knew that there's something that could be diluted that could help other people too.
And, you know, when we started to set out to build X-Coast, you know, we, again, never
really would have imagined we'd gotten to this point.
So we were in beta for a while, meaning that we needed a lot of user feedback.
One thing that I say a lot at X-Coast is that the bar for spaces is incredibly low.
I mean, without X-Coast, the bar is just extremely low.
Now, if any one of you just go schedule a Twitter space tomorrow and you just list it
on X and you make a post about it, it's a gamble of a lot of time and effort that we
don't know is going to be a good gamble.
And I'd argue that nine out of 10 times, it's going to be a waste of your time.
So the bar already is tremendously low and spaces had a cold start issue.
And that's what X-Coast initially set out to solve was that there is a cold start issue
with spaces. We don't, we don't have a way to co-organize with other speakers, hosts.
We don't have a way to, to plan ahead with spaces, right?
We need to solve that first. And we set out to solve it.
And I think we did a really good job of that in our beta season.
That's where our whole focus was during the beta.
Just how do we solve this cold start where we could get people who are interested in
topics together to talk? Simple.
Now, during that time period, we made sure that people couldn't just go extract data
from X-Coast. We wanted to keep it private. We believed in what we were building.
We didn't want to make it available to everybody.
But I'm really pleased to say that the X-Coast product team led by my COO and co-founder
of Impublic, Tori, who's in the crowd. She might come up. I hope she does.
She took over a lot of our product efforts at X-Coast. And I mean, she fucking killed it.
I mean, she hopped into this. She drove the ship home. And because of this, we're actually
confident enough to say that we have enough in our product roadmap for the next three to
six months. So confident that I think we're ready to open the platform up.
And opening the platform up to all of you might at this moment be like, what the hell does
that mean?
I mean, what does that even matter, right? X-Coast has crazy site visitors.
I mean, crazy number of site visitors. We have amazing web traffic.
And currently, those users can't window shop X-Coast. Meaning that many of you as hosts
have all approached me and said something. You said,
Kaylund, how do I book my speakers on X-Coast that aren't X-Coast speakers?
And Tori and I, whenever we'd hear that, we'd be like, there's no such thing as an
X-Coast speaker. You know what I mean? There's just people who use X-Coast and don't.
There's no such thing as an X-Coast speaker, right? So whenever we hear this feedback, we
kind of just figured it out that it's this tremendous user friction to get somebody
from, you know, that's not a platform user to start using it.
So one of the first things we're going to be rolling out in the launch of X-Coast is
that we're completely removing login gates, which is exciting because this now just means
there's going to be way more users crawling the platform, seeing that, you know, Depot's
hosting one of his spaces and will guest request to join Depot space. And that just means that
you're going to have way, way, way, way, way, way, way more attention traffic floating
through X-Coast that normally just can't convert at this moment, right? I think we're all pretty
savvy in Web3, terms of tech savvy, right? And a lot of these users are smart people.
That means that they're not going to authorize their X without looking in first.
They're not just going to go into X-Coast and be like, yeah, sure, authorize Twitter,
she'll low cap meme coins on my X for me for sure, you know? So there's a lot of people who've
been worried about that. So one of the first things we're doing is we're completely removing
the login gates.
We have a ton of other features that I plan to announce out, but the main, main thing is
that we want to start providing more relevancy. So a lot of things that a lot of people don't
know at X-Coast is that X-Coast does have an outreach team and our outreach team focuses
on acquiring speakers by topic, by topic interest. And our outreach team, as we have grown, has
gotten a little disorganized. I think it's gotten more challenging from liquid restaking to bear
chain to abstract to, you know, God, everything in between, you know, every academic think-boy
term you can think of in crypto. You know, there's so many nuanced sections of crypto
in Web3.
So one of the things that we're going to be actively pushing for X-Coast are something
called landers. And landers are something that you are all mostly familiar with. But one
of the things that we're going to be rolling out are topic landers, meaning that for DeFi
brands and DeFi founders that are just looking for DeFi topic spaces, they can also just find
DeFi topic lander spaces without having to go scroll through X-Coast, search by topic and
dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. This is going to streamline attention demand to your spaces
by the topic you select.
Is it me or Kaling Dog?
No, he probably does a business run.
No, definitely not.
Talk, talk, talk, rebel, rebel.
Oh no.
Oh no, we lost him.
Our leader.
So here at X-Coast, what we're going to be doing this year.
That's why you have somebody else host it.
Quick, someone else, I'll get another co-host.
I'll just talk at the same time, let's, let's all just speak at the same time.
Just fill the, just fill the, just fill the space with noise.
We'll be taking a second to the, to the X-Coast.
We are in the same room.
This is why we're like, this console reminds me of like, we're wiped in a room.
You know what?
You heathens.
Hey, why don't you hear me?
One second, man.
What are you doing over there?
I thought you were going to go in his face.
What's going on?
You guys are monsters, man.
What are you doing?
We don't know how to do this.
I feel like everybody just rushed to the stage.
Hey Lynn, why don't you, uh, why don't you just tell everyone you gamified the shit out
of it?
You're like, yo, you know, web three gaming, you motherfuckers think, oh, it's only in web
three gaming.
No, let me show you how to gamify the experience.
Uh, you want to see co-hosts actually, you know, flex what they do.
Let them all talk at the same fucking time.
So I'll just pretend like I got a business fault and let's see what happens.
Yeah.
That was well played.
That was chess right there.
Love it.
Yeah.
Birds, you know, we're, we're playing 80 chess at X-Coast at all hours.
No, no, this, this, this is it.
This was the marketing, I guess.
Honestly, I don't know what I was expecting, but at first I was nervous.
And then I was like, this will be hilarious.
Let's just let this rock out.
Um, but no, I'm really grateful.
I, I, I know I'm thinking thankful for all of you for rushing the stage.
It just shows like what a fucking crazy crew of users that use X-Coast and I'm glad this
space is recorded.
I feel like when I someday go back when X-Coast is a massive company and I think about this
Twitter space, I want to clip that one part of it particularly because I think that that
just screams the essence of space as hosts.
But, but anyways, um, yes, we want to make sure that we get better speakers to your spaces
and that's an important factor of, as we go X-Coast, our outreach team needs to be able
to start focusing on onboarding users by demand of topic.
So for our hosts that are in X-Coast, the topic landers are going to be a big push and
a new traffic source to your spaces.
So currently the only way someone can find one of your Twitter spaces as a host is if they
have your particular link to that particular Twitter space, right?
Or they find it on the explore page and sort, or sort by topic on the explore page.
We're going to be adding in a new form of the explore page, which will be topic landers.
These will actually be links.
It'd be X-Coast.com forward slash topic, forward slash link, uh, title or, or topic in this
case.
And this is going to allow us to start directly driving specific types of speakers to your
spaces.
Now this might not seem like much to you, but we have thousands of speakers in this
network that are not all users yet and more and beyond.
And this is going to allow us to start driving way, way, way, way, way, way, way more speaker
demand to your spaces.
And also because of the fact that there isn't going to be a logging gate either, meaning that
they can just freely go look at these specific spaces by these topic groups.
And what I'm really, really excited to say is outside of all that, just coming out of beta
and the old platform opening up, and we have some topic landers, which is cool.
One of the other things we're going to be officially rolling out is the invite via email
feature.
And essentially what this is, it's just, it's just going to take your spaces and bring them
to steroids.
It's going to allow you to actually run a real spaces series that is respected by other
people you meet in the wild, right?
Imagine you go to a conference and you talk to Michael Saylor and he says, you know what?
Send me the link.
I'll come join your Twitter space.
Better yet, give me your email and I'll send it to you.
And when we send him that email to go book him onto your Twitter space, it's going to
reserve him a slot for 24 hours.
And it's going to say that because in the real world, when we register speakers for a
speaking event, there's a registration process.
There's a process by which we're expecting to get checked in and get seen in, right?
This is going to allow you to drastically make it so much smoother for you to invite your
own friends, your own partners, your own co-hosts, your own speakers, your own sponsors
to your spaces in a way more professional and respectful way.
Instead of saying, here's my link, you know, go check out my link, right?
When you're dealing with really high quality speakers, which by the way, my opinion is
what makes a Twitter space really great is the quality of speakers that you can find in
the discussions you can kind of turn because of the people who are there.
This is going to allow you to take on a way higher quality type of speaker to your Twitter
space.
How many times have all of you had somebody that you knew was massive you're talking to
that you wanted on your Twitter spaces, right?
And you really just couldn't lock it in.
You couldn't just lock it down because there's all this disorganization in your process or
lack of resources that you didn't have because your spaces isn't monetized just yet.
But this is going to allow you to significantly increase the quality of you getting your speakers
to your spaces.
And that's all I really want to talk about, particularly on this Twitter space is just
ex-cohosts coming out of beta and what this really means for the early stage hosts at ex-cohosts.
And we actually have a few with us on stage.
And I would like to kind of give, pass the mic around to them a little bit.
I'd like to hear from my homie, Mark, who's on stage, who's been with us for an absolutely
long time.
And Mark, one of the OG creators who joined our pilot creator program, not phase one,
the pilot, talking to the person who went into the trenches with us when we had no features
built just yet.
Mark, floor is yours, my friend.
My guy, my guy.
I appreciate you doing this since day one, meeting you and talking with you.
I knew that this was going to be a long journey, but a good one.
And totally excited for where this is headed.
And I can't wait to start seeing all the new features.
I don't know if I helped in developing any of them in any way, shape or form, but if
there's ever anything that I could do to help out with any of this, it's honestly, it's
been such a great journey with you side by side, going through all the different things
that you're building and totally excited for it.
It's been the one thing that has made it so that I could be full time in Web3.
So much, much love to you, brother.
Much love back to you, bros.
I think what I love so much about Spaces is Spaces are a sandbox.
And I mean, truthfully, fully a sandbox, right?
That means that every single Spaces host is crafting their own unique castle out of this
thing.
And the features and tools and resources that every single Spaces host wants and needs,
our goal next to go is just to find the common middle ground amongst all of them and paint
a broad stroke.
And then as that broad stroke is painted for us to then add in all the features and
details, Snooch was somebody who brought us a lot of ideas.
I'm talking someone who was just unholding back with those ideas and feature requests.
And you know what I mean?
For some people that are around a evangelistic user like Snooch, you might look at that and
you might get overwhelmed by it.
Not me.
I live and breathe features for Spaces.
And Snooch brought so many amazing ideas, including some of the ones I'll rattle off like multi-user
management for someone who is managing multiple social brands to be able to have multiple
accounts to manage on Xcohost, which is a feature that is in our roadmap, which is because
of you and your ideas that you brought to the table.
How many of us have a business brand and a personal brand?
You know what I mean?
How many of us have a business brand, a personal brand, and also at all, how many of us will
do all of those three things and also manage socials for another brand, right?
So to be able to get into multiple accounts on Xcohost smoother and easier is a big, big
factor.
Vanho, I just see you're, I mean, Kayla, I can't call you Vanho.
Other Kayla.
I saw your hand was raising up.
I know that you've been using Xcohost for a little bit now, too.
You look like you're kind of excited about multi-account management.
Oh, absolutely.
Well, because one, I helped Snooch with his calendar and he also does like three or four
different like spaces with different companies.
And so now that you guys have added that feature of having different people or different projects
and being able to add that to your calendar, like that's the best feature ever.
I can't even tell you before, but we'd spend like a whole hour of, can you check my calendar?
Does this, do I have this time available?
Okay, crap.
And we'd have to go through for each account.
And so the newest updates like are super awesome.
Like I got into Xcohost probably like March-ish is when, when I had worked for Love Monster,
they kind of were looking into the Xcohost thing.
It didn't work out.
Like, you know, that started my own personal journey with it and have had an account since
then.
And honestly, it's just like since March.
I mean, what, that's like six months.
I'm not going to do the math.
I'm not going to count my fingers right now.
But like in the six months or however long it's been since you guys have been putting
in the updates, like it's come so far.
And to actually now have like, you know, like I have a space today for Gag Me and I had Icy.
He's not on Xcohost.
So I couldn't be like, hey, can you sign up?
Like, I'm excited to just be like, you know, what's your email address?
Let me send this to you.
It's going to add him to my profile.
I'm not going to have any missing like PFPs when I, you know, drop the announcement.
I'm loving that I can just not have to make anything, click a button.
And then, you know, you guys have put in like the infrastructure to just like post like everybody's
pictures into like a post.
Like, it's amazing.
I've been using it to tag everybody because one, I'm lazy.
Two, I do work.
Like you said, like I manage myself.
I manage Snooch.
I help manage Dark Times.
Like I'm managing Van Ho, like gag me, like I'm helping all of these places.
And so who's managing Van Ho though?
I need somebody managing, please.
Like, let me come back home.
Like, no, somebody please take care of me.
But no, you know, having all of that, it's just, it just makes my life so much easier.
Like maybe now I can go eat lunch now instead of having to email so many people, you know,
like I love it.
So kudos to you.
Absolutely loving it in the last six months.
It's just going to keep getting better and better and better.
From here.
So excited for that.
And so happy for you, honestly.
And yeah, other Kaylin, when I hear everybody say, Kaylin, you're greatest.
I'm like, I know.
And then I'm like, oh shit, they mean the legend, Kaylin.
So I love it.
Well, I first want to say that I love that you were involved with this in March.
If anybody was dealing with ex-cohosts between October and March, October 2023 and March of
2024, you were interacting with a very transient ex-cohost, a very transient product as well.
At that time, we had built a Telegram bot.
We were under the impression that everybody organized spaces through Telegram.
We're betting on it.
And we started building this Telegram bot way before many apps were cool, by the way.
What the fuck?
But anyways, I'm going to let that go.
I'm going to let that go.
Because if I stay on that, I won't give that up.
But we built this super custom Telegram bot where you could get a list of spaces and you
could opt in.
The issue was that they were just free flowing.
Anybody could opt into any space.
And that's obviously problematic.
Yeah, I don't even have to explain why that's problematic.
So anyways, it didn't work out well.
But it definitely was like the concept that we needed to say, we need to build a natural
platform for this too.
And thank God for my COO, Tori, who constantly fought me the entire way about using Telegram
so much because I was such a Telegram maxi when I first started this business.
And now as I've gotten more users, I'm interacting with more people, I couldn't hate Telegram anymore
than I currently do, I think.
Like, Telegram is like a tumor.
It's just grown so much.
But anyways, I digress.
Caitlin, I'm super grateful for you.
And I'm very grateful that you stuck it out with us through these times as we've been
able to grow.
And I really, really affirmatively believe that we are going to see creators using ex-cohosts
in getting exposure to massive opportunities.
When I tell you that I look at the opportunities at ex-cohosts and I see brands using ex-cohosts
organized spaces, I understand the value of that.
And I understand that I'll always have intrinsic value, right?
But brand-led spaces only go so far.
There is a bit of a cap there.
There's a line in the sand that can be drawn about how far a single brand's Twitter spaces
can really go, right?
But a creator's spaces, I know how far those can go.
I was a part of one.
I've been a part of a few now.
And I see how far they can incredibly go.
And I just know that a platform like ex-cohosts that is demonstrating upcoming creator spaces
is just going to turn into a ripe hotbed zone for brands that want to get involved in exposure
through all different forms of mediums.
And I can't go into specifics on that right now because we're at a stage where it's more
ideation than it is like execution.
But we are at a stage right now where we're ideating how we can help creators using ex-cohosts
to monetize natively on ex-cohosts, meaning that brands can come find you and interact
with you directly on ex-cohosts natively.
And we're really, really, really excited and bullish about that for more updates on that
in Q4.
That being said, we do have some more people up on stage with us that have been with us
for a hot minute.
Matthew, my homie, you've been with us for a minute now with us utilizing the platform
and growing with us doing spaces.
I feel like watching your journey has been pretty cool to use ex-cohosts because one of
the things a lot of you made me maybe not realize is that for the longest time, anybody
who got into ex-cohosts met me on a call.
Basically everybody for the beginning, like 500, 600 users.
I met literally every single one of you on a call first just to like prepare you what you're
getting yourself into and Matthew, you're one of them.
And then I swear every time I dropped in someone else into Web3 Gaming, I entered the ecosystem.
Matthew was Matthew already met them or knew them and Matthew already met them and knew
them.
It just kept happening and happening and happening.
And every time I'd meet up with you, you'd always be talking about like all these different
things that you're building with people from the ex-cohost network at the moment.
And dude, that inspired me so much, man.
You have no clue how much fuel that gave me hearing that, that people were using this network
and finding lifetime, lifetime business partners, friends.
I would like you to share a little bit about that if you're, if you're comfortable sharing.
Yeah, no, of course.
I mean, I got into ex-cohost, um, basically it was through, through spaces.
And I think I got a personal intro to you and you basically, you talked to me and you said,
Hey, I think you'd be good on your own show.
I think you'd be good running your own show.
You kind of have a voice spread and let's sign up for this.
And at the time there were some other, um, like things floating around some various groups
or running spaces.
And they all had like this idea of, you know, if you pay them a shit ton of money from your
project, you'll get this and this, and you'll get a ton of bodied users and all of this kind
of stuff.
But cohosts, you, you were genuine.
And the fact that you actually spoke to me personally and, uh, kind of brought me on board,
it made, it made a huge difference for a small startup to be able to actually just get
in, engage and instantly do that.
And to be honest, man, like the support you guys gave, considering how much shit you had
to do was pretty incredible.
Like on telegram and sometimes the, like the times were weird or something like that.
And then, you know, I would like miss the sign up because I was too fucking busy.
And you guys would like actually talk to me and say like, if you get it in the next 10
minutes, we can still push it for the next week.
Like it was dope.
And I think that's, I gotta give Sarah her flowers, Sarah, that Sarah, she will not
yap.
I won't get her to, but she a hundred, a hundred, a hundred percent is the type of person that
would just be like, why aren't we getting these hosts, these host spaces live?
We need to get them live.
And that's like, I swear to you all, you have no clue.
If we just didn't care.
If we just didn't care at X ghost, we'd be millionaires right now.
We just cashed in on AMAs, hired a bunch of you as creators, like everybody else tries
to do and cash in on all of you.
That was right there.
The opportunity has been there.
I have the same deal flow for every AMA host in the same industry.
I could, we all could have sold out if I, we didn't care so much, so much time ago, gross,
but I just deeply want to see Matthew get to episode 500 with like a 200 K yearly sponsor.
And I believe that that's possible.
I affirmatively and deeply feel that that's really possible.
And I know it will happen because these markets are only going to get wider, bigger and
better over time, uh, you know, you know, Bitcoin's value is showing that in 10 years,
we're still going to be here, probably still talking about Bitcoin on Twitter spaces.
So if that's the case, I want to bet on that future.
And I believe in you, bros, I said, I meant that from the moment I met you and to the
moment now where you're now, I don't want to leak your business.
You know what I mean?
But the stuff you're doing now is crazy, bros.
It's absolutely crazy.
And I'm really grateful I got to like watch that on the journey with you.
I'm going to ask some friends.
We got about five requests on this to come up on stage.
And for some reason, I can't get more people on stage.
For some reason, every time I add you up, it just goes right back to requests.
I'm going to ask a few friends to make a drop.
Cause you need a second co-host.
You need a second co-host to add more people.
X co-host.
I'm going to let you pick.
I'll let you pick.
You're, you know, dealer's choice.
Drop me.
I actually have a space in 20 and I'm going to, I'm going to listen to you guys while I get
prepped for my space.
My space is top 10.
But you guys are killing it.
See you guys later.
Appreciate you other Caitlin.
Always here for the Caitlin's in the world.
It was personal when, when, when I was able to sign gag me to a ex co-host and to have
them join our creator program.
I'm like, we need more K names representing out here.
It's tough for us out here.
But no, I'm super grateful for all of you.
And we also have some new creators that have joined us up on stage.
Stefan actually just finishing his very first ex co-host Twitter space just yesterday a.m.
I bullishly joined it at 6 a.m.
I don't know if I got it for the next one, bros, but you know, I had to kick you off.
How are you, bros?
Paging, paging Stefan, paging Stefan.
Okay.
We're moving on.
It's okay.
He'll jump in in a moment.
But as I was saying, this, this, this has been a pretty, pretty wild ride for ex co-hosts.
And I would like to kind of finish up on the last 20 minutes of this Twitter space, kind
of talking about where our head is at for the future and what we plan to roll out addicts
co-hosts for the next quarter.
Just real quick, vibe check with me real quick.
Everybody up on stage.
Can I get an emoji up real quick from everybody?
Just one emoji.
Just throw me a point.
Don't throw me a point.
Don't throw me a point.
Don't throw me a point.
I'm sorry, Stefan.
I got to kick you from the stage because I need a room on stage.
Come back when you're ready, my friend.
I'm going to bring up Marcelo.
And I'm going to try to get up a few more people as well.
I need some favors.
I need some like, how about this?
Give me a hot take and get the hell off my stage.
Who's got me?
I'll give you a hot take.
I'll give you a hot take because I'm going to watch the gag me space.
Yeah, you can kick me off after this.
I'm going to change my name to Kathyu so that I can get into the co-host, into the next co-host
creative room.
Fucking love you guys.
It's awesome.
Drop me down to listener.
I'll still listen.
You're all the best.
And the best people are in here building the same shit as I'm building.
I can see two in the speakers panel.
What?
My hot take is that I like hot weather.
And that's what I'll leave you guys with.
I'm going to circle down to get ready for my next space as well.
Space is going to keep spacing out on you, fam.
Anyway, bye.
Come join my space on Thursday if you want.
It's on ex-co-host.
We're going to talk about Deepin.
Bye.
Shameless plug.
Honestly, shilling ex-co-host spaces on ex-co-host spaces is so fucking welcomed.
And you can just interrupt me to shill any of your ex-co-host spaces at any time.
Ex-co-host space.
Deepin on Thursday.
Ex-co-host.
Yay.
Thank you, Matt.
I really appreciate you, bros.
I just wanted to make some room up on stage.
One thing that's really tough about managing a company that's for spaces hosts is managing
the spaces stage.
If you were all just normies, I could like boot you down and you all be like, oh, yeah,
okay, sure, no worries.
You know, but you're all spaces hosts, so you're all like, no, you know, there's like
an intrinsic, I can't get removed from the stage value.
Well, not yet, Kalen.
Not yet.
I think I'm the only one up here that's not a spaces host.
And yeah, I'll just, I'll shoot my shit right here really quickly.
Shout out to whatever, man, for introducing us and having his spaces, Bull and Bean.
Almost every morning.
Check out Bull and Bean.
Not on ex-co-host yet, I don't think, but, you know, we can always hope.
But yeah.
Fix that, man.
The door's open.
You know, it's been, you know, I can't say I haven't been knocking up that tree, bro.
I'm a lazy motherfucker, okay?
You know when people are like, oh, you're fading, you're not chasing?
I'm just a lazy motherfucker.
But well, I'll get there.
I'll get there.
I'll get there.
I promise.
I promise.
He's not lying.
He's not lying.
Bro, just go sign up on the platform right now.
Dead ass.
I'm saying this dead ass.
Go sign up on the platform.
I will make you a host, okay?
This is just a one-time favor.
And Don's also going to get made a host, too, because he's the homie and he made this possible.
So I knew you all now can't say I didn't do a giveaway on this stage.
Hey, well, you know, to speak directly, to get serious real quick, Kalen, I hopped on a call with you and I had no idea what to expect after we were in whatever man spaces.
And I was really, really impressed.
And I think you really, really have something special here, not just for Web3, but for the world.
I'm looking at this in a worldly view.
And, you know, this is going to be the new town hall.
This is going to be a great way for companies and businesses to speak directly with their consumers.
I think there's a ton of potential.
And to just speak to it directly, I did not want to fucking do any hosting of spaces or any shit like this.
But talking to you and seeing your vision, I'm actually like, yeah, I think we're going to actually be doing this now.
So shout out to you.
The byproduct of meeting me is becoming bullish on spaces, and I'm loving hearing that, honestly.
Yeah, and lastly, I just wanted to say before I go, Sarah, I did get your email today.
I was like, Sarah from ex-co-hosts is suggesting a space.
I was like, oh, that's nice of her.
And it was a decent space.
And so, and by the way, UI UX is impeccable, dude.
It is beautiful and very, very easy to use.
Very easy to use, man.
Shada, I can't wait to see where this goes, bro.
And hopefully, maybe you'll open the door to investors.
Wink, wink.
But peace, everybody.
Bullish, bros.
I'm so incredibly grateful for you, my friend.
I don't honestly get to get on, like, a call like that where you, like, get on, like, a 5 p.m. call.
We were on a call for, like, two hours.
It was one of those long ones, honestly.
It was good, though.
It was really, really good.
It was one of those ones where we got into talking.
We got into a good debate.
I like when I meet someone and then, like, the only logical step is for us to, like, learn something by talking really hard at each other.
And I could tell that that was, like, the whole entire call with you.
But that was really cool.
My girlfriend was like, why are you home so late from work right now?
And I'm like, it wasn't even kind of work-related.
I just think I made a new friend.
But anyways, I'm really grateful for all of you being here with us on this ride with us.
And I obviously see some hands up on stage.
I'm going to go right over to them.
I got to throw it over to bro, my bro, DeFiZoo.
I think you deserve it.
But before I do, I want to make an announcement.
And this is going to be something that's going to really change everything on XcoHose.
So I kind of wanted to wait until, like, the bitter end of this because I didn't want to, like, you know, give you the big thing away.
Because obviously, like, that wouldn't be cool.
In the coming weeks, I would say likely by the end of this week, optimistically, and this is the CEO saying this,
who is obviously very optimistic.
So take that with a great assault.
In the next two weeks to three weeks, to be safe, we're going to be rolling out a new pricing structure at XcoHose.
And I want to communicate that the current pricing structure on XcoHose was designed for us to stay in beta.
It was designed for us to be able to afford to build a company that we're building today and be able to stay afloat long enough.
And I don't even want to lie to all of you and say it's been the perfect, ever, ever perfect ride in that,
in that regard, but it got us to where we needed to get to.
But I also don't really believe it's going to get us to where we want to go now.
And I want to say that we built it the way we built it for consistency,
but the nuances of spaces kind of make consistency a hard thing to do.
So what I'm really excited to announce is that our new free tier, which is just the base user tier,
will include free hosting on XcoHose.
So anybody that wants to come on to XcoHose, speaker or not,
will now be able to start using XcoHose to organize spaces.
It will be initially out in beta.
So the beta just means we're going to give everybody one and see how that goes,
because if 500 people start listing 10 spaces, it could get a little wild.
So we're going to start with one, and everybody's going to get one.
And then we're going to expand from there based off we find what is the common user journeys.
And what I want to communicate is that those free spaces on XcoHose that are going to be under the base tier,
the user tier of XcoHose, they will not show up.
They will not essentially get promoted on the Explorer page as featured spaces.
What they will do is give you the ability to invite your own speakers and list them in topic landers on XcoHose.
So, for example, if I use one of those free spaces, and it's a DeFi space,
if I go to XcoHose.com forward slash that topic, DeFi,
I will see that DeFi space there, and I'll have the opportunity to request to join it as a speaker.
As a host, I will be able to invite my own speakers via email natively.
And these emails also, these systems for invites also have reminder systems,
the same reminder systems you all got for this Twitter space that we're here with today,
besides whatever, man.
Shots fired.
But you get the point.
You guys get the point.
And this is going to introduce a tremendous volume of demand for XcoHose.
This means that out of those 500 free hosted spaces that invited five of their favorite speakers,
they're going to get promoted our creator spaces and our client spaces on XcoHose.
Meaning that this should drive your attention economy for your spaces on XcoHose massively.
Absolutely massively.
And it's going to take time.
It's not going to be something that we roll out.
But one thing that I will say about it is it will be compounding.
And one thing that already happens with XcoHose that we've already learned is we got to this point with XcoHose
because of the compounding factor of what we're building.
And the compounding nature of what we're building means that every time we onboard a new host,
we onboard new speakers.
We onboard new speakers.
They become a host.
That host onboards new speakers.
They all become a host.
It becomes this very natural virality that happened on its own,
something called PLA, product-led acquisition.
It's just that the product itself demanded the users to invite more users over time.
And with our free tier, it's going to allow a lot of the brands like,
you know, I don't want to name names here,
but a lot of these larger Web3 brands organize a lot of partnership spaces.
They organize a lot of co-marketing spaces.
And we're hoping that XcoHose becomes the home for those brands
to be able to organize those co-marketing and co-partnering spaces.
We hope it becomes the home for you to organize that one space you want to go over
with your friends discussing a meme coin that's going viral right now.
We just want it to be a place where there isn't any friction.
And that's going to massively increase a ton of new users.
And I'm super, super excited to announce that.
And if you're in the creator program applications,
you'll be the first one to have access to this.
So when we roll it out, the free tier,
it's only going to go out to the people who actually apply to join the creator program first.
So out of the 100 applicants we got,
they'll get our first early access to utilizing that
before we roll it out to everybody else.
So I just wanted to announce that.
I think that that's like one of those things
that's going to massively increase the value and attention for your spaces.
But with that being said, I know I went on a tangent there.
DeFi, the floor is yours, my friend.
Oh man, I was about to come with a hot take
and start funting XcoHose,
but I don't think I can after that one.
No, that's huge news because
I can't tell who was speaking before
someone who was saying like,
oh yeah, they never really even wanted to host spaces or whatever.
You know, that's maybe similar to my story.
I wasn't sure if I knew how to host the space
or what I was doing.
But, you know, using XcoHose and diving into speaking more
and then like taking inspiration from other hosts
and being able to, you know, use those things
and kind of replicate them and make my own, you know,
craft over, you know, hosting 16 episodes
on the Player Gaming L1 account
and now five episodes on my own account.
But ever since launching my own space on my own,
I'm like, wow, this kind of sucks.
I need XcoHose.
Wow, this kind of sucks.
I need XcoHose.
So like, I totally understand the product market fit
like 10 times more than maybe I would have realized
before not trying to do it on my own.
So, you know, definitely exciting news there.
And, you know, I'm always going to be supporting XcoHose.
So, you know, I'll just be that loud hedgehog guy,
always in your comments, always in your replies.
And, you know, hopefully trying to keep hosting
banger shows here.
We're on five episodes deep now
and, you know, just having fun with my real life crypto, bro.
So, and powered, you know, powered by XcoHose,
even though, you know, our first five episodes
weren't powered by it,
but I wouldn't be hosting them
if it wasn't, you know,
for diving headfirst into, you know,
hosting and speaking more.
So definitely excited to see, you know,
what's cooking here for the, you know,
out of beta launch.
Is that what we're calling it?
I just want to make sure I'm understanding the terminology.
It'll be officially out of beta.
This is really what it's going to be.
And I'm really, you know,
I'm really grateful for everything you said.
You have no clue.
You know, I think,
I think about you more than you think I do.
And I want to say that your situation
with you working with a brand XcoHose
worked with as a client,
having learned the skills of launching a show
with that client through, you know,
vicariously through XcoHose,
you learned a very valuable skill
and something that you don't want to give up.
And I can relate to that deeply,
relate to that more than you can imagine.
And someone else who I also want to say
that I met very similarly through
is someone who has a similar experience to you
who that's kind of taken it to a next level
with XcoHose is Marcello.
Very similar experience to you,
not in the sense of how we met,
but Marcello was essentially involved
with leading,
building up spaces strategies for brands.
That's actually how I met him.
If anybody was living under a rock
during like 2023,
you didn't see this,
but Marcello was fucking leading IQ protocols,
Web3 gaming spaces series,
and beyond that, respectfully.
He was massive and he did that massively for them.
I did that myself.
I know exactly what that feels like.
And, you know,
Marcello is basically you, DeFi,
but it's like kind of like taken to the next level.
And now Marcello has actually done this
for multiple brands and has his own show.
Marcello has been a really fun person
to work on this with
because he's one of the creators
that does want to run spaces
with other brands co-marketably
and it runs an agency for it
and a service for it,
which I can validate.
He does a really good job
because he's done it with a few of the clients
that XcoHose has worked with.
But that being said,
Marcello, I want to give you a word, my friend.
Yeah, man.
Congratulations.
Super excited.
I apologize for being late to the launch party.
I got double booked an internal meeting.
I'm like, no, I have to be here right now,
but I'm here and I'm excited to be here.
And yeah, man, I'm just really excited.
Congratulations.
Congratulations to everybody here
that's part of the XcoHose family
and the ecosystem
and all the amazing things.
And my hot take,
my hot take was going to be
if I think not enough people
are bullish on XcoHose.
And if you're not, you should be.
I think it's such an incredible tool.
I think I act like I'm gently,
not just because I use it,
but I generally believe X needs this, right?
I think when it comes to organizing spaces,
when it comes to myself,
working with clients,
working with brands,
I don't have even my own space.
It's like, it's been ages.
I wanted to start my own space.
I just working full time right now
until I could scale my spaces business.
I don't have the time
to book my own speakers all the time.
And XcoHose is such an incredible tool for that.
And especially if you're running spaces for clients
or for brands and for projects,
it's incredible.
And even if you're just looking for exposability,
like there's dozens of amazing spaces
you could have access to
just by jumping on the panel.
And it's amazing.
That's literally how I met so many of you guys here,
built amazing friendships and relationships
just through spaces.
And I really resonated with what Don Paulo said
and DeFi's point.
I never thought of myself as a space host.
I never wanted to do spaces
until I realized the value behind them.
And just when it comes to brand awareness,
exposability,
and just the relationships that come
from talking to people on spaces
and meeting people,
it's just the whole thing
has just been an incredible ride.
I'm grateful to have been here
since for quite some time.
It's over a year we've been using CoHose,
XcoHose,
and I'm excited for another year more
and another decade.
Let's go, baby.
But yeah, no, super excited for you guys
and everything that's going on.
And congratulations to everybody
that's part of this amazing journey
because, yeah, that's my hot take.
I don't think enough people are bullish on XcoHose.
And if you're not,
you definitely should be.
I'm incredibly grateful for you, Bros.
It's been a really awesome ride.
I think a lot of people see spaces
go up on XcoHose
and they don't know what goes behind them.
Marcelo has led, I think,
well, you're probably in like the 50s range
of number of spaces you've done
in the last like 90 to 90 days,
maybe a little bit more.
Like you're an animal, Bros.
You're an absolute animal.
And you were able to manage all that
while also having a job.
And I think like,
I'm not going to use this
as a chance to soft show XcoHose.
It speaks for itself.
We all just know that that's not feasible.
We know that that's just not
without resources and tools and organization.
You either build it onto a notion
or you use something like XcoHose to manage it.
And that's really where we see ourselves
in this player place of like,
how can we help more enterprise levels for spaces?
And one thing I wanted to mention is
in this new phase of XcoHose in Q4,
you're also going to start seeing
a lot of partnerships with XcoHose.
We don't actually currently announce
any of our partnerships at XcoHose,
mainly just because there was nothing to announce.
So there was nothing to drive traffic to.
XcoHose was private.
We're in beta.
If we do all this partnership announcement
while we're in beta,
we're going to just bounce
all the traffic immediately, right?
So one of the things we're going to be doing
is partnering with spaces hosts
that are already prolifically hosting.
I could tell you that
if somebody is prolifically hosting spaces already,
I'm likely already talking to them.
If they're in a,
I don't want to give it away
because it's too obvious.
There's not many of them,
but you'll see.
We're going to be partnering
with a lot of really cool spaces hosts
that are already prolifically hosting spaces
to bring them onto XcoHose.
So you also have the opportunity
to start joining
some of your favorite spaces
that you already see on the timeline on XcoHose.
And that's going to be
kind of like a partnership base.
We also will be doing some partnerships
with other types of media brands
and entities as well.
These types of partnerships
will be, you know,
partnerships like with World of Women,
where we're currently letting them
use our platform and our dashboard
to use XcoHose
to essentially roll out the products
that they're currently working on.
And that would just be one of many
of these different type of organizations
that we partner with
that we find are really relevant
for the industry.
The other thing is
that we're going to be partnering
with more hosts
just from a media angle alone.
We might end up partnering with,
you know,
someone who specializes in tokenomics
or on a tokenomics series on XcoHose.
We want to start opening up
more doors of conversation,
more mini series
and less long-term six-month series
and more of like,
more of like a pop-up series
that maybe we could help
co-monetize with a sponsor
or an advertiser or like.
And that's our goal
as we build XcoHose
is just to create more
of those like opportunities.
That being said,
I do know we have some more
hands up on stage
and we're right at the tip of the hour.
I'm good for about 15 minutes over
so I'm going to hang out here
a little bit.
Panda,
super grateful for you
being on stage.
I need you to smack up
whatever man for me
and get your show on XcoHose.
I hope you know
I have been in his DMs
so I don't want to hear
anything about it.
I need you to grab that man
and get him on XcoHose for me, okay?
Well, listen,
I don't know if he opens your DMs
or he responds to your DMs.
He doesn't actually open
my messages either
and usually has headphones
in when I'm speaking to him.
So, sorry.
We might have to do with spaces
to get his attention.
And I'm not even joking.
The ones that know, know.
But no, I...
Oh my God,
what do I want to say?
You're doing amazing.
You're killing it.
So happy to connect with you.
Actually very excited
to get onto the platform
and actually get using it.
I'll be honest.
I think the last month
has been kind of crazy
because we were traveling
quite a bit and stuff.
But I'm normally the one
that's like on top of stuff.
So I will take it upon myself
to make sure that we're on there
and, you know,
we can start using it.
I think I have registered already,
but I just need to actually schedule.
But it's a great website.
You guys are...
Yeah, you guys are killing it.
But also I wanted to give a hot take.
And it's something that we've spoken about
probably months back
when we first connected
and how cringe it is
that unfortunately
a lot of spaces are botted.
And so I hope that we're able
to tackle this issue
because I feel like people don't realize
and even just like sometimes
it's brands and projects,
you know, they want numbers.
They don't realize MFA,
like there's only 25 active listeners.
Like the other 400 are botted.
Do you not understand this?
It's like, dude.
And the only other way
you get to real numbers
with spaces hosts is time.
It's time.
If you look at anybody
that's dominating the spaces timeline,
it's time.
And it's definitely not the time
that's on the stage
with their hand raised.
But I think it could be time.
I don't know.
Maybe time is the mastermind
behind all of it.
But jokes aside,
it takes a really, really, really
long amount of time.
It takes a long amount of time
to get there.
And it takes a lot of relationships.
It takes a lot of BD
it takes a lot of
impressing listeners.
And it does not happen quickly.
Never, never quickly.
And just to that point as well,
Kaylin,
because I know that you're
trying to wrap up
and there are hands up.
And in the interest of time,
I will.
Time, you see what I did there?
Time, I got you, girl.
We need more females,
by the way, just saying.
Guys, please support
the female speakers
because this is a very
male-dominated space,
as most are.
And we would love
your, you know,
we'd love for you to empower us
and we will do the same.
But honestly,
like, just speaking about time
and numbers and stuff as well,
like, I think a lot of times
we think that big accounts
actually bring value.
And I'll be honest with you,
more often than not,
they don't.
Some of the best speakers
have a smaller following,
but they have experience,
they have skin in the game,
they're very good speakers,
they have an area
that they might be an expert in
or not,
and they're just good speakers.
And I think we need to give more,
you know,
benefit of the doubt
and more opportunities
to people with smaller accounts as well.
So just wanted to put it out there.
Thank you so much for having me up.
You guys are amazing.
I really appreciate you, Panda.
I've been enjoying listening
to your spaces in the morning.
I don't, you know,
initially when we first opened up
the creator program,
the first thing I did
was kind of just like,
go check out spaces hosts
that were like very consistent
and you definitely came up
with someone who was like
super, super consistent
with whatever, man.
And I just want to say that,
you know,
I really think you both
would do really well in Xcohost.
I think you'll get exposure
to a lot of opportunities.
I don't want to,
I don't want anybody
to join Xcohost purely
for monetization at this stage
because we're just not there.
We have not systemized it.
We have not organized it
in a way that is scalable just yet.
But what we are doing
is we're working with creators
from our pilot program
at the moment,
some of which that are
on this stage right now
to learn how to structure
these types of deals
because we know
that these people
were with us
way before an idea
of a dollar hat
was even involved,
you know,
involved in this whole thing.
That being said,
we actually have some people
up on stage
who were with us
in the initial pilot.
I would like to give Trav
a moment to shine a little bit.
Trav, you're a part
of the original five pilot hosts
on Xcohost.
Still running a very consistent
Friday episode too as well,
might I say.
Respect, respect.
Not everybody has it in them.
I just got to say that.
So you definitely pull it up
and pull through.
And I would say
I'm so incredibly grateful
I've met you, bros.
You're like a walking
relaxation pill
the moment I talk to you, bros.
Oh, dude,
you just lifted me
right up off the floor
as per tradition.
And I don't say
that metaphorically.
I'm literally sitting
where I was literally
sitting on the floor
and now I am standing up
air punching
and just feeling
the good vibes, my friend.
So I want to drop
three examples
of the value
that I've personally
gained from Xcohost.
And the last one's
a little bit of
like a hidden nugget
of alpha that
I don't, I mean,
I did show up here
to this space
a little bit late here,
but it's definitely
one of those hidden value ads
that I don't really hear
a lot of people
talking about here.
So first things first,
I've been very open
about, you know,
my own personal experience
out here.
You know, I'm a,
I'm a extrauma nurse
dealing with some
severe mental health issues,
PTSD,
all that fun stuff here
and spaces hosts
essentially
or hosting spaces
rather
essentially brought me
back from the dead.
And especially
over the last
two months,
I would say
things have kind of
been resurging,
you know,
the struggle is kind of
escalated here a little bit.
But during that
my spaces platform
or my spaces show
has continued
to be able to grow
at a pace
that it has never
accomplished before.
And that's purely
because of ex-cohosts.
You know,
you guys make it
incredibly easy
to get connected
with like incredibly
high value speakers.
And not only
am I able to kind of
continue to grow
my space,
but it gives me
something to look
forward to.
It gets me excited.
It gets me out of bed
in the morning
and it's just phenomenal.
The second thing,
of course,
is the opportunity
that you've brought me.
You know,
you've connected me
with some paid gigs
to work with
incredible projects.
And it's not
just a paycheck too.
It's like these projects,
they're out here
building incredible stuff.
I had zero concern
when it comes to trust.
You know,
I knew right off the bat
from you,
from Fred,
from Sarah,
that you guys
know your stuff
and you guys
continue to prove this
each and every time
you hop out here
and literally open
your mouth
and say anything.
Like,
it's very,
very clear.
You work at a very high level.
And because of that,
you know,
you connected me
with one of the most
solid gigs
I've ever been able
to accomplish here.
Now,
the third one,
the hidden nugget,
the pure alpha here
is besides,
obviously,
the team
who's incredible,
just being able
to network
with other stellar hosts
has also added
so much value.
And I want to give
a special shout out
here to Mark,
aka King Snooch,
who jumped into our space
last Friday
when we were hosting
a call on LSTs.
And through his
just phenomenal presence,
he brought a completely
unique perspective
to our space
and he allowed us
to kind of steer
the narrative
to where we really
were able to connect
with so much more
of our audience members
and deliver value
in a way that,
honestly,
I did not think
that we'd be able to do.
And because of that,
it was one of our
most successful spaces
in the world.
So there's that,
you know,
there's the ease
of networking,
the quality team
and incredible opportunities
and then also
just the networking
with other co-hosts.
It's been an absolute
game changer.
So I've been chatting
here for a little bit.
I'm going to cut myself
off here.
Kaylin,
you're the man.
Sarah,
you are wonderful.
Huge shout out to you
for helping me out
personally here
during these last
couple months especially.
And to everyone else
up here,
you're all legends
and I couldn't be
more thankful.
And the last thing
here,
Stefan,
I can't believe
you're not at
100k yet.
Just Stefan's the man.
That's all.
Much love,
guys.
Super grateful for you,
bros.
I have to say,
like,
every time,
every time,
like,
someone who's,
like,
from our original
pilot group
gives us,
like,
a good remark,
I'm just,
like,
thank God
because,
you know,
I really wasn't sure
what we were heading into
when we started that.
My entire team,
the entire team
of next co-hosts
was like,
I don't know about this.
I don't know about this.
Because,
you know,
it was definitely going to stretch
our bandwidth out a lot,
you know,
because it's a completely
different user journey
at X-Coast
for a brand that wants
to list the space
and a creator that wants
to list the space.
Two very different motivations.
They're very different goals,
very different reasons
for the platform,
how they want things to go.
And it has been so phenomenal
that we got really lucky
with the initial crew
that was able to really give us
a lot of honest feedback
and they didn't pull their punches,
which was good.
Like,
they really hit hard
on what they needed.
And now let's open the door
for us to onboard new creators
and one of them,
which is on the stage
with us right now,
none other than Time,
who's been hanging out with us
for quite some time.
And I just know
you're so tired of that joke.
I would love to give
the floor to you.
it's okay.
Continue.
I'll take all the attention.
but I'm a professional
yamper
and I'm chronically online
and I just wanted to share a story
before we close out.
But I'm in Switzerland right now
and I went to the CV Summit,
shout out,
10 years of Ethereum.
And I stepped out of the conference
to actually host
a Twitter space,
right?
And so I'm on this like
most gorgeous dock
looking at these mountains
and I'm just yapping on my phone.
Someone comes up to me
very confused
on what's going on.
And then so I explained to them,
you know,
Twitter spaces,
blah, blah, blah,
great point for marketing,
you know,
all these things.
And,
you know,
he had no idea really
what a Twitter space was.
And he also
couldn't believe
that people
get paid
to kind of host
and curate
Twitter spaces
as well.
So it just goes
to kind of show
that there's
a huge market
of individuals
out there
that don't even
really understand
the potential
and the growth
that Twitter
really has
for companies,
for individuals,
for content creators.
So everyone
hates the words,
but y'all
are here early.
So I think
ex-cohosts
is just positioning
themselves
at a really good
time
in the market.
So just really
appreciative
of everything
you guys are building.
And yeah,
I mean,
cheers.
This is literally
just the beginning.
You said it really well.
You know,
one thing I love
that you said
was talking about
the number of people
who don't do
Twitter spaces.
I used to put
this statistic together
for my old sales deck
that's probably
probably way off,
but I'm just going
to try to sum it up
quickly.
And it was showing
that the number
of active people
joining Twitter spaces
was less than 15%
of the total
of Web3
business leaders,
meaning that
consistently joining
spaces,
only 15%
of the actual
business leaders
in Web3
actually really were.
And that's because
there's a lack
of organization.
And that would happen
in all 2022
and 2023.
That's all I heard
in 2022,
2023.
There's no organization,
no organization,
no organization.
We don't do them
because there's no
organization,
no organization.
We pay for AMAs
because we go there
and they ask us questions.
We don't have to plan.
Right?
So I learned all that
and I was like,
that we need this.
This is something
that's needed.
But along the way,
ex-cohosts
has become
a professional
spaces host factory.
Every client we onboard,
somebody there
at that team
suddenly becomes
a spaces host pro
and many of them
end up
are on this stage
or in the listener
with us,
staying with us
to host more space
for more brands.
One thing
all of you
immediately learn
by using ex-cohosts
is that you could do
this for another brand.
Immediately.
As you join spaces,
you could be joining spaces
as another brand.
As you host spaces,
it could be a different brand
you're hosting it for
and maybe you're the person
speaking behind the voice.
What would a brand pay for that?
How much would they pay
for it over time?
How could you communicate
the value of that
over time?
Things like that,
which is something
that we found
very valuable
at ex-cohosts
and growing early,
which was
there's a lot
of opportunities here
and we should let people
explore them
the way they want to.
Zad Xger,
I always fuck your name
up first.
I'm sorry about that.
You've been with me
for a minute, bro.
I've known you
for a hot, hot, hot, hot,
hot, hot, hot, hot minute.
How have you been, man?
What's new with you?
Yeah, I've been good.
You'll be surprised
how many of your
ex-cohost hosts
actually screw it up.
But anyway,
I don't throw
too much slack on them.
Yeah, I just,
I've been good.
Obviously,
fell short on
getting involved
with the Creator Program,
things to do with me
and work away
from Web3 as well.
But yeah,
been enjoying my time
with ex-cohost.
It's crazy
that I met you
through a client
I was working with.
I still am working
with that client.
But yeah,
it's reassuring
to know there's a free,
you know,
the free plan
that's coming up
is going to be helpful
for some of the clients
that I work with
to get the ball rolling
and show them,
you know,
that ex-cohost
as a product
actually helps brands
who actually want
to grow in ex-organically.
But yeah,
it's been good.
I just want to mention,
you know,
shout out to a couple
of the hosts on stage.
I see Marcelo,
I'm always at his spaces.
It's fun speaking
on his spaces regularly
week in,
week out.
I see Deepo.
I attended spaces
as a listener
every now and then.
Enjoy listening to him
as well.
But yeah,
ex-cohost has been great.
I remember,
I think a few months ago,
I asked whether I could
probably make a video
around the UI UX
and just about
ex-cohost as a product.
I'd like to think
now that you're out of beta,
I can actually do that
and you can't stop me.
But yeah,
it's been exciting,
Kalen.
Obviously,
you know,
flowers to you
for getting on call
with me way back when
and I've grown
as a speaker,
got to meet
some incredible people
and yeah,
hopefully,
I managed to make
enough time
to consistently
run a space
and get that
on ex-cohost
sometime soon.
Lovely bros.
I can't tell you
how many amazing people
that I met
two years ago
that are still
with us
at ex-cohost,
that are still
riding this wave
with us.
It's been a wild ride,
bros.
And I remember
watching you
back then too
when you were working
with the companies
you were working with.
I know you still
work with too,
by the way,
and that's another
great sign,
by the way.
That's something
that's rare
in Web3.
And it really
makes me happy
to see,
you know,
how bullish
you've been
on spaces,
bros.
It's one thing
that I really
just think that
once you have access
to something
like ex-cohost
and you realize
how easy it is
to organize a space
when you're around
people who want
to be there,
you realize
the work
shouldn't be
in curating.
The work
should really go
into the quality
of the content,
the quality
of what you're
saying on the
stage itself,
right?
Someone who does
that really well,
of course,
Sam Stefanina,
I always bring him
you know,
someone who's
been working
with ex-cohosts
to really provide
a lot of feature
feedback features
for a while now.
I'm really excited
to say as well
that through a lot
of Sam's,
Stefanina's
suggestions on
product,
we're finally
getting to a
stage where
we're rolling
out an MVP,
more enterprise
Twitter Spaces
host experience
on ex-cohosts
that I would
say will come
live before
the end of Q4,
but a lot of
the creators
in the ex-cohosts
program will get
early access to
which I'm really
excited about,
but essentially
will allow you
to kind of take
a steady
Spaces series
and just put
it on steroids.
Really excited,
really,
really excited
to show everybody
that stuff as we
get into that
phase of rolling
it out.
That being said,
we got one
more hand left
on stage.
I'm going to
wrap up with
you,
Creon,
and then I
think we
might do
kind of like
a hot take
and close
out.
Creon,
the floor
is yours.
hey,
everybody.
Thank you
for letting
me speak.
I'm Kevin.
So happy
because I've
been away
for quite a
while.
So yeah,
a hot take,
I don't know,
but I think
ex-cohosts will
set the bar
high for hosts
and speakers,
and ex-cohosts
will probably
breed true
KOLs along
the line.
So there
are not
many true
KOLs right
now,
I believe,
but many
people are
labeling
themselves as
such,
and it's
freaking
cringy in
my opinion.
I think
ex-cohosts
will drive
the market
for true
KOLs,
influencers,
and even
content creators
in this space.
Whether you
want to label
yourself or
not,
I think
this is
going to
happen,
especially
through this
platform.
I can
say I'm
a rookie
in this
space,
and because
of ex-cohosts,
I've seen
so much,
and I'm
now looking
forward to
becoming better
because I'm
learning from
speaking to
organizing panels
and picking the
best topics
that matter at
the right
time.
You guys
are inspiring
All of you
guys here
in my ex-cohost
family,
I'm talking
to you guys
because you
guys are
hosting,
and I'm
seeing you
in every
space that
I've been
through.
You guys
inspire me.
I'm picking
up different
strategies and
techniques from
you all.
I'm learning.
I'm pretty
sure that
there are
many others
like me
that are in
the same
spot and
who want
to be as
good as
you,
and I'm
learning from
you all.
That's
really a
good thing.
There's
so much
that is
the platform
is providing
to us,
to people
like me.
I'm really
bullish on
this one.
This is why
I'm so
grateful for
the platform,
for the
ex-coast
platform,
and to my
ex-coast
network as
well,
to the
ex-coast
gang.
I'm so
happy that
we're
connected,
and I'm
always delighted
to be
speaking on
any space
where I
can see
my brothers
and sisters.
Just a
little bit
of update.
actually
brewing
this space
that I'm
hoping to
be running
in November.
I've been
planning about
this a long
time ago,
but I'm
not very
well connected
and not
yet confident.
But it's
different now,
so I'm
hoping to
be doing
this space
for you
guys as
well.
Maybe I
can invite
some of
you on
that space.
So yeah,
pretty excited
about that.
So yeah,
this is
great,
and there's
so much
value in
in what's
going on
at the
platform
and also
in the
Twitter
or X
space
because
of X
Coast
platform.
There will
be so
much
going to
happen.
And I
don't know,
it's going
to be
going to
disruptive.
Coast will
probably
revolutionize
the way
marketing,
especially
influencer,
content
creator,
marketing.
We will
probably
revolutionizing
that.
So yeah,
I'm pretty
excited about
that.
So thank
you so
much,
Kaelin.
Happy to
be here
once again.
Shout out
guys.
Bye-bye.
Love you,
bros.
I sincerely
appreciate you,
man.
I love your
energy,
bros.
I think
one thing
that always
kind of
took me
aback at
Coast is
I didn't
always feel
like X
Coast was
a community.
A lot
of people
when I
was building
X Coast
in the early
phase,
there were a
lot of idea
people that
were around
Tori and
that brought
a lot of
ideas,
like just
quick,
do this,
your problems
are solved
ideas,
right?
And the
thing is,
a lot of
these ideas
were just
saying,
go build
a Discord,
invite everybody
into that
Discord and
they can use
the platform
from there.
But the
issue is
that in
reality,
the relationships
we build
with people,
if you want
somebody to
do something
like join a
Twitter space,
you have to
respect their
time.
That's it.
You're playing
a game of
massive,
deep,
respect of
people's
time,
right?
And if you
were to throw
everybody in a
Discord and
just throw
them stuff
ad hoc,
let everybody
respond to it,
it's going to
feel like pigs
eating slop,
you know?
And nobody
wants to feel
like a pig
eating slop.
And when we
built Axe Ghosts
initially,
there wasn't
really a lot of
features and
tools that
allowed us to
do it,
but Telegram
was a big
component of
going from
zero to one
for us,
allowing us to
have a one-to-one
chat,
we're only
talking to
this person
instead of
it being
a massive
community,
right?
But what
happened by
proxy is I
thought we
weren't building
a community,
but the
community kind
of just
built itself.
If you
were joining
spaces and
you're hosting
spaces,
you're seeing
the people
on Axe
Co-hosts.
And as you
kept doing
that, you
kept seeing
some faces
and some
new faces,
right, as
you went
along.
And as you
met new faces,
you probably
started networking,
you're probably
saying, hey,
okay, well,
that person's
on that stage
and I'm
friends with
one of the
people who's
on stage,
maybe I'll
hit him up
and ask if
he can
make an
intro.
And you
started networking
out and now
you kind of
see the familiar
faces, right?
But behind
every three
faces that are
on this
stage,
every face
on the
stage,
there's like
20 more,
30 more
faces on
Axe Co-hosts
that speak
on one or
two spaces
per month.
Speak
on one space
every quarter
on Axe
Co-hosts,
right?
And when those
people jump
they see a
vibrant,
happy group
of people
connecting
together.
And I think
that's great.
And I think
that's something
that you've
really captured
really well,
Kreon,
that I really
had a hard
time kind
of validating
for Axe
Co-hosts is
that there is
a bit of
like an
audience here.
I do believe
that that will
dilute,
but I don't
believe it will
ever change
from what it
I think it's
a little soupy.
I'm thinking
we could get
some more
people in.
We could
dilute it a bit,
I think,
and I think
we'd be really
good.
And one
thing I'm
excited to
announce on
this space
is that we
will be
introducing
new topics
outside of
Web3.
You don't
have to look
far to assume
what topics
those are
and what
time of
the year
it is and
why we're
choosing to
allow those
topics on
Axe Co-hosts,
but there is
a massive
amount of
interest in
politics and
world news
in the world,
and there's
a massive
audience of
people who
want to do
it on
Axe Co-hosts.
And we're
going to be
introducing
that as an
opportunity on
Axe Co-hosts
to start
introducing new
topic groups
that aren't
all exclusively
inside of
Web3.
Now, that
doesn't really
mean much
for us here
today.
I think it
will mean
a lot more
next month.
I think we'll
see the impact
of that then.
But Axe Co-hosts
is being designed
in a way that
you can only
see what you
want to see
on Axe Co-host
regardless.
So that being
said, I know
we got a few
other people
on stage we
didn't get
a chance
to hear from.
Stefan, I'd
like to give
you a final
word, my
friend.
You've been
on stage
with us
for a minute.
Oh no, don't
tell me Stefan
is a stage
parker, man.
It hurt my
feelings.
I can't accept
this reality,
man.
Back to back
too.
And I joined
his space
too.
Tsk, tsk,
tsk.
Just joking,
just joking.
That being
said, everybody,
I think it's
time we wrap
up here.
I can tell
the room.
Everybody's
tired of
announcements.
I get it.
We're
announcements out.
Just down the
timeline, we
have some
really cool
stuff cooking
that we'll be
putting out.
You all know
that my DMs
are open.
You can just
slide in if
you have any
questions.
If you want
an official
response from
Xcohost,
definitely DM
the Xcohost
account.
Email us at
our Xcohost
emails.
If you want
to be buddy
buddy with
the founder
and wait
18 to 30
business days
for a response,
DM me.
I'm on
buddy time
right now.
If you need
an official
response,
definitely
reach out
to Xcohost
on X.
That being
said, I
just want
to express
my gratitude
to every
single one
of you for
taking time
out of your
schedule.
I've seen
a lot of
you just
hanging out
in the
listeners.
Dahlia,
Wake,
out there
in the
crowd
thrust.
Dawn,
I appreciate
you coming
up earlier.
Web3 lady,
I know you've
been here
for a minute
too with
us and
the listeners
with us
and so
many more
as well.
That being
said, thank
you all for
being a part
of it.
Check your
emails.
We'll have
an announcement
out in the
next 72
hours regarding
coming out
of beta
and what
this means
for our
users.
And other
than that,
let's keep
kicking some
ass on
spaces.
Thank you
everybody
for being
here.
