Xterio MAYG BlackCard Drop

Recorded: Jan. 23, 2024 Duration: 1:38:45

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fresco and then we're gonna get going
Yo, what's up everybody I'm gonna play some music while we let some people filter in gonna hit you guys with some major bangers here
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but crazy at the same time.
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And her presence better kneel, might be elegant, but it get real.
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Unleash the beast, Meeky wild and untamed.
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when I speak, I need solids, so, this could give out,
and how you love me or hate me?
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Made G, NFT, Web 3, go.
I don't know how somebody can listen to that
and not get pumped up.
It's one of my favorite songs.
Just in general, not in Web 3, it's just a great song.
Sinjin found, I don't know who that is, but he's awesome.
He's up there with Sam with how pumped he gets everybody.
So, yeah, go ahead.
No, I guess so, go ahead.
Yeah, so, give everybody some time to trickle in.
So, Jerry here on the Made G account, aka Fresco,
joined by Sinjin, founder of My Angry, who's a girlfriend,
and yeah, super exciting time.
So, the Made G ecosystem as we're getting up
to the Made G Black Card Mint,
happening at the end of the month on Exterio.
And a few actually big updates coming just beyond that.
So, this space will focus on the Black Cards,
what they do, the purpose that they serve
in the Made G ecosystem and how people can get one.
So, if anybody has any questions,
feel free to just request to come up and speak.
We'll let you up.
Just raise your hand if you have a question or a thought,
and then we'll make sure we get to you.
But start, Sinjin, how you doing, man?
I'm great.
We haven't done our own space for months and months and months.
So, this is great and it's great to have you hosting.
So, I guess there'll be chaos today between us.
Yeah, pressure's on.
Usually, people pit us against one another,
even though we work together.
So, it's weird to be on the same side.
Glad I'm not going to be getting bullied on stage for once.
I feel like you'll definitely be getting bullied on stage.
Come on now.
Icy is already breaking the hand rule.
So, it's already happening.
And I literally put a comment saying,
did we bully for the alpha?
And then you invited me to the stage.
So, you're asking to be bullied, really.
You know, you guys are...
What happened to the hand system?
You guys all do it with Sam to ask.
I'm on the computer because I wasn't expecting to come up here.
No hands on computer.
You can just throw me a wave.
So, I'm super excited to be doing this space.
I'm super excited to get these black cards out.
I know Sinjin probably is as well.
I have a first question.
And that's something that I think everybody wants to know.
Does Sinjin have a black card IRL?
Do I have...
Actually, no, I don't.
My wife does.
And it's kind of crazy because it's an unlimited...
What do you call it?
Spend limit.
But you have to pay it all off every single time you use it.
So, you could put like a million dollars on it.
But next month, you have to pay it down to zero.
So, I'm just really scared every time that my wife uses that card.
I've been so fucking surprised sometimes.
Because not to say my wife is irresponsible, but one time she did put like 40 or 50k on it.
And I had no idea.
And I went to the bank account because we don't keep everything in cash obviously.
And my bank account was wiped out.
I went to go pay my own credit card.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Where's all the fucking money?
And I go, honey, we got wiped out on our bank account for this month.
What the fuck?
And she's like, oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't tell you, but you know.
So, yeah, she's fucking hilarious.
That's amazing.
I didn't know that black cards were just a glorified net 30 account.
Super interesting to know.
Yeah, okay.
So, let's jump into this.
And I think just to get to it, XinJin, a lot of people are really curious about
the Meiji black cards.
So, what are they?
And what purpose do they have in the Meiji ecosystem?
So, yeah.
We haven't really disclosed this.
It's on our white paper with just one little section of it.
But the entire point of Meiji in the first place was that we were always going out to
build this ecosystem.
And the very first thing that I wanted to do was actually build out the first game.
Because the first game was actually the most difficult game in the sense that in
creating an ecosystem and what a lot of people do for their economy is that,
we're all trying to create this open, sustainable economy.
But unless you're an RPG MMO where you have like, I don't know, like 15 different game loops,
it's really difficult to make a single economy, an open economy in a very simple game with a
couple of game loops.
So, what ends up happening is that games that are very simplistic in terms of having one
or two game loops, where there isn't crafting, there's like only like competition or there's
only a couple of like mechanisms in it, it ends up being a centrally planned economy.
And when it's a centrally planned economy, like communism, it doesn't have this dynamicism
that you need to really create different ways that the economy functions.
And so, it's very easy to game.
And the way that we looked at it was that Meiji, the very first game that you guys
have been playing is really like the federal mint.
It's the mint area of where it mints Meiji, our ecosystem token.
And the reality is, is that any game which is using the in-game token as an incentive
where you're minting the token through winning or through playing the game is going to be
net inflationary.
Because if you try to or like set up the game itself, that it's not net inflationary,
meaning that there isn't like net winners.
And then you make it zero sum, no one's really going to play that game.
Imagine you played any particular game to win something, whether it's like the carnival
or something like that, and no one ever won anything.
It'd be pretty soon obvious that no one's winning anything, that the entire game is
being sunk to like net zero and no one will play anymore.
So then what do you do with this excess of net winners?
Well then, if you don't do anything, right, and just kind of give them options,
little options like accessories or like little items that they can buy or more NFTs
that can buy, there are two things that happen.
Number one is like the initial collection, if you're using the initial collection to
kind of expand it, then it becomes diluted, right?
And then as there are more NFTs and as there are more players playing,
then the supply increases.
And that was the main problem with Axe Infinity.
And something that we noticed was that the more axes that you make,
it's not just that the tokens are being produced in multitudes.
They're being produced in multitudes upon multitudes, like truly exponentially, right?
The second thing is that as you have the supply,
what are you going to really do with the supply?
And for us, that comes out of the ecosystem.
And any supply that's kind of created should have a way,
not just for like a kind of game-placing, but almost like an ecosystem sink,
meaning that you should be able to invest this ecosystem,
the tokens into the ecosystem.
And what is the ecosystem?
You guys know that if you get that one first sin princess,
that you can mint out your own plan of another like 12,
and the benefit of that is that you have your own client of like,
in total 13 or if you're a VIP, like 17 players,
you can pull your resources together to play, but not just the first game.
So why we set it up was to create this ecosystem,
and what the ecosystem is, is basically this massive criminal empire
that you guys are going to build out.
And it's going to provide basically the first kind of thing that criminals do,
not to say I'm a criminal, I first had an experience of this,
is all these underground businesses,
like underground casinos, sports books, racketeering,
a loan sharking, so on and so forth, right?
So what the ecosystem is really is that we are creating the GTA of social casinos,
which that is your empire.
And by doing so, what we're going to do is we're going to issue licenses,
like gaming licenses for you guys that are going to be limited on the platform
to basically build out your own criminal empire.
And that's the big reveal.
And so the black cards, what they're going to do is,
it's almost like a founder's pass.
They're going to give like early allotment and a specific allotment
for these casino sports book,
you know, e-sports licenses that are going to come out in the platform
for you guys to get like your own, like private allotment first, right?
It's not to say that it's not going to be open for the whole community,
but the founders pass are pretty much given out initially
to a lot of our dedicated VIPs
and to certain community members that we feel like have really contributed
to the major ecosystem.
Because I'll give those one last point,
is that you guys know that I'm from the casino industry.
And then if you're from Macau or you're from Vegas,
you'll see, even if you go to Vegas,
there's like a ton of like casinos,
and so like no matter how many casinos there are in Vegas,
there's an X number of casinos.
So there's a scarcity there.
So for on our platform,
there will be like only like 10 or 15 casino licenses
of a certain type, 10 or 15 like poker rooms,
so and so forth, right?
And clans will be able to join together,
make coalitions and buy into these licenses
and actually run these,
you know, what it's called,
underground casinos and sportsbooks together,
yeah, as part of the ecosystem.
And then from that point on,
because there's this kind of massive kind of engine
of the social casino where people are investing in it,
that will make this really open, sustainable economy,
which we're truly trying to do,
is really make a real life,
you know, underground social casino ecosystem
that's on chain, right?
That's on the blockchain that is totally open
and totally sustainable.
So that's why we're doing this.
And so this is kicking off that narrative of this ecosystem
and basically being the GTA of social casinos.
So sorry, that was a lot to unpack,
but I've been holding it back
ever since we started development.
So that's the alpha there.
Yeah, it's finally a time to get it off your chest, man.
Yeah, Sinjin did say a lot in that.
So if anybody has any questions,
again, just raise your hand.
Lemz, if you're on PC, throw up a wave or something.
I'll just keep an eye on it.
And I'll keep an eye on the comments.
So if you have any other questions
that you don't want to come up on stage and ask,
or you don't want to get yelled at by Sinjin,
throw them in the comments.
I'll stick up for you.
I'll take the heat for you.
But I think that's really unique in what you said, Sinjin,
is that these are going to be licenses
for people to build on top of the Meiji ecosystem, right?
So it's going to be a way for people
to take an experience like esports
or poker, would you say,
and be able to start hosting their own tables, right?
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And so the biggest thing about...
You know, people talk about Rollbit
and like Stake.com and stuff like that,
but these are just like traditional casinos
that are online.
And the reality is that I've been part of that industry.
I left back in 2014.
I had some moral issues with real money casinos.
But with online casinos,
the problem is that because in real money anyways,
and even in like social casinos,
whether you go on the App Store or Facebook
or whatever like that,
because there are unlimited amount of casinos
that can come on online,
eventually that all gets diluted, right?
So something that's very profitable right now,
three to five years from now will be very unprofitable.
But having our own ecosystem
and that has a scarcity of these licenses, right?
This creates a sustainable system
where it's centered around a few licenses
where they're not expanding
and so people can really operate them
as if they're like kind of real businesses, right?
So imagine this,
that if you were on Facebook games,
like back in the day,
which Zengo was with Zengo Poker
and Zengo Poker would be a good example
of a social casino situation.
If there were only like 10 operators,
providers of let's say slot machines
or social background or social slots or poker on it,
how much would each one of those licenses actually be
to be an exclusive provider on Facebook, right?
And that's what we're trying to mimic.
We're trying to mimic the actual
real economy of an underground criminal empire online.
And that is what makes it a real sink.
So people talk about like tokens
in the gameplay as sinks.
We're not talking about that.
We're talking about like tokens
as a means for investment
into a real online business
in our space, right?
In our economy.
And I think that is really going to be
what creates a sustainable economy.
Because really what a lot of people talk about
in web three is tokenomics.
Like how do your tokens work?
How do people kind of get it and speculate on it, right?
But they're not really talking about businesses
that are run by the community.
And for us, our UGC is really businesses
that are run by the community.
And so all like the key first holders
are really our partners in creating this platform
of Meiji as the Yakuza ecosystem.
Yeah, it's a really interesting
lot to kind of like work your mind around.
Whereas like a lot of people are really trying to create
UGC mechanisms and UGC tooling.
You're kind of just blowing past that
and wanting people to build businesses on chain
within the Meiji ecosystem, right?
Which is a really novel concept.
I don't think anybody's really thought of that fully.
But it's also in one of the most lucrative environments
that exists in social casino settings.
It's a huge genre, both on mobile and desktop.
And it's something that has endless amounts of...
Think of how much money people pour into casinos
like in Vegas and Macau, all of it world, right?
So it could be very lucrative for people.
And the black card is the ticket
to one of those licenses, right?
Yes, so then it kind of pretty much guarantees you
to be open for an allotment.
So like, let's say that we have the 10 licenses
that are going to go up.
They're all going to go up for like auction, right?
But like, let's say out of the 10,
even though like it seems like a small number,
like two of them will be guaranteed
for black card holders.
And then maybe one will even be raffled off.
So the value of these licenses
actually end up becoming quite a bit.
And let me give you the real like alpha banger here, okay?
Real money gaming, no matter where it is in the world, right?
If it's not fully regulated, like with a land-based casino,
it's always going to be a gray area, right?
But social casino is something special
because like the marketing channels are very open.
And it's something that can be very sustainable.
So if you look at something like Zenga,
which had a huge element of social casinos
on a Zenga poker, so on and so forth, right?
I mean, they were, they ended up getting listed.
You know, they ended up finally getting bought out
for like 7.3 billion or something like that
in the end of things.
You can't do that with like an online casino.
So like in terms of like the real equity value there,
it's not possible, but the real alpha here
is that what makes this a social casino,
what makes this a very special GTA of social casinos
is that in our ecosystem, you will be able
to bribe other people in the game.
So we're going to have in our own internal esports team,
you'll be able to as a, what do you call it?
Meiji clan owner, actually get an esports license
to have your own esports team, right?
But other people on the platform will be able
to DM the players directly and bribe them to throw a match.
Why would they ask you to do that?
It's because there will be other,
what do you call it, clans on the network
who will have sports books.
And so if you want to bankrupt another clan, right?
You could actually, and they put up their own odds
on a game, you could actually make the, you know,
the teams throw the game, bet against the sports book
on like some really crazy odd that, you know, like,
you know, this team is like, you know, whatever,
50 to one to actually win it.
So imagine if, you know, Icy was leading a clan
and Icy's team wasn't really that competitive.
Although, you know, I'm sure Icy is a very competitive gamer.
And, you know, I personally bribed all the other teams
to lose to Icy, right?
And then we basically bankrupted this other, you know,
this other clan.
The other thing, too, is that you'll be able to get
your own horses, but we've done it in different stats
in terms of specking it out in that sense that each stat,
each what we call horse will have different stats
where they'll be fairly standardized.
Like this one will have more endurance,
this one will have more constitution,
this one will have more acceleration,
this one will have more of a top speed, right?
But you will be able to buy pets,
like performance enhancing drugs in different ways
to, you know, make your horse run faster,
but it'll also increase the chances of it
having a heart attack during the match, right?
During the race, right?
So certain things like this, where we're putting
this element of real life, like bribery
or like corruption in the game itself
also puts it into that social casino realm
where all the sports betting in the casino
and all this other stuff is happening inside the platform.
And so when you do that, it's really a game in the game
and the inspiration from this comes from the series
like the Yakuza, I don't know if you guys have played it
on like PS, but you know, it's one of my favorite genres
and games obviously, and they have these mini games in there
just like how Witcher had like a lot of mini games.
And so that was the kind of model that we followed as well.
But the biggest thing is that what a lot of people
don't realize is that when you go to a casino
or you host any of these types of games, right?
In order to run these games, you just don't set it up
and people come in and they play
because people win and people lose, right?
And at any given time, and even in a major casino,
there'll be times within the month
that they're actually negative, right?
That they've paid out because some people went out
in a heater and they've actually paid out more
than they've actually paid in.
But over the course of the month,
like every casino will be net positive
as long as they've had the number of users.
And so in order to like even run a casino,
you need a lot of capital investment behind that.
So the players are going to play
and they're going to win and wager in Meiji
on the social casino platform, right?
Then the casinos will have to have their own kind of bank role
to be able to operate, right?
And this will far exceed the inflationary rate
of which the first game happens at.
So it's the same thing like real life.
Imagine that you are a professional poker player
or a professional e-sports player.
How much of your annual salary would you need
in order to take over your own e-sports team
and join, you know, what are you called?
Join, what are you called?
It's one second, just a proven hype here.
Oh, I got that.
You talk, I'll approve people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How much would you actually have to save up?
Well, you almost couldn't.
You'd have to go to the bank to get a loan
or you'd have to go to your friends and family.
I.T. and Sam would have to get together,
pool their money together with lens
and then buy an e-sports team to join up,
you know, in the riot leagues
or whatever like that for LOL, right?
And so that capital cost is so much more
than, you know, what is kind of circulating in the economy.
And this is the reason why the U.S. economy
is very robust, right?
Even though they issue a lot of money,
especially during quantitative easing
from the last like pandemic and in 2008,
because the U.S. economy can absorb so much investment,
right, so that even the money supply is not enough.
I give like one final example,
and this is kind of getting like big brain,
but, you know, when you only had horses, okay,
the economy was X amount big,
because with a horse, right,
there's only so far away
you can live from the cities and so on and so forth.
So at that time, back in like the 1800s,
right late 1800s,
when America was really forming up and urbanizing,
you know, most of the people lived in the countryside,
right, like 80, 90% lived in the countryside, right?
But when they started to be trains, right,
the city started to grow, right?
And with the train, the economy grew,
because then you had train lines
and you had industry supporting,
you know, train, train stations, so on and so forth.
But when you had cars,
like that was a whole fucking other level, right?
Now you have, you know, cars and the technology
and the manufacturing that's required for those cars,
you have roads, you have gas stations, right?
And then you end up having this huge urbanization.
So the economy of a horse economy driven by horses
is like one-tenth the size of an economy by trains.
But an economy by like cars is like,
that economy previously is one-tenth of that
or even like one-fifty of that
when cars were introduced, right?
So it's like about what is the economic engine here, right?
And then for us, frankly speaking,
like anything that you think of
that could be a criminal enterprise,
we've already specked out over the last year.
So these are all specked out.
And in actuality, because all these games
and all these structures are all like known games,
we've actually done the hardest part right now.
So like, whether you go to any casino in the world
and you play Blackjack, you play roulette
or whatever, it's the exact same game.
So in our sense, like the game development
at this point is super easy.
It was all about structuring things
and structuring the Meiji
and the Oni-chan's and so on and so forth.
And so if you thought like the Oni-chan's
and like getting like your subment was cool
because you were just gonna like,
you know, just farm the one game.
Well, you know, you guys are thinking way too small, right?
We set up these clans not to farm one game
was to like farm an entire ecosystem
to build on your entire business.
So that's where we're coming from.
Yeah, it's super, super interesting
when you first told me about like,
the bribing, you know, system and everything.
You know, this is not gamified.
So I can say this, but it's, yeah,
dare I say we get a little 1919, you know,
Black Sox World Series scandal on our hands.
But I think it's really interesting
because that's a layer of complexity.
That's what we want.
I'm waiting for that game where
I'm waiting for that like big esports match
because we'll have like Premier League,
championship leagues and stuff like this.
And we'll pick like a game like
whether it's CSGO or CS2 or whatever like that
to be in our own private esports kind of thing.
I'm waiting for the time
where everyone bribes every single team to lose.
And everyone's betting just everything
and seeing what happens there.
Former NBA ref Phil Donohue
is frothing in the mouth right now.
If anybody gets that reference,
I'll whitelist you to anything right now.
So again, you know, to anybody on the panel,
you know, feel free to throw up a hand.
If you're on PC, Doug,
I don't know what's going on with you.
If you switch to PC and throw up a wave,
I'll make sure to grab you in.
And let's go Sam.
I think I saw that Sam hand first.
So let's go Sam
and then we'll go to Doug right after.
Yo, Syngin, great stuff so far, man.
Super curious about what you have going on here.
So I think I understand that the 88 NFTs
are somehow going to be a license
for our own casino license or something like that.
Could you help me understand
that concept a little bit more?
So the reason why it's 88
and not some bigger number.
And I actually got a lot of pushback
for the people that were advising
because originally I wanted like something like 38
rather than that.
And then I was like 69
and then I'm like,
oh, and then they're like,
okay, it's got to be more than I'm like,
I'm going to find 77.
And then finally, I'm like,
we settled on 88.
And that was like,
there's no more than that is
they're not giving you a direct license,
but they're going to give you
first allotment for these licenses.
So what I suspect is that
once people like understand
what we're really doing, right,
that, you know,
maybe the first couple of licenses,
people are not going to be crazy about.
But here's the crazy thing, okay,
is that social casino games
and casino games in general,
we don't have the word for monetization, right?
There's no need for you to go buy a skin
or, you know, buy some diamonds
and, you know, buy some chess
and get a gotcha box.
If players are playing these types of games,
they're monetizing as they play, right?
You want to play a poker tournament?
You got to pay an entry fee.
You're going to play blackjack or roulette.
Well, the natural fixed odds within the game
are going to like basically give the
we call profit to the casino
or whatever like this, right?
And so, you know, part of this is also that,
you know, there need to be scarcity
in these licenses, right?
And so why it's only 88 is basically like,
let's say that there are like 15 casino licenses,
okay, to start off with, right?
There will only be 15 casino licenses
at that level.
And so the black card holders
will get an automatic allotment
of something like 10% of the supply.
So in this case, you know, it'd be like one or two, right?
But let's say two, right?
So then one may be raffled off
to the black gold holders just so for free.
They get the free license, you know,
you're already a black gold holder,
you know, you get this one license free,
but the other one will be auctioned off
just among the 88, right?
Whereas the other like whatever 13 licenses
will be auctioned off to the whole community, right?
If I can say to like, you know,
get these licenses first, right?
And these licenses will like some of them will vary.
So for instance, like,
let's say that we're doing our first esports
like kind of league, right?
Then we will do 12 esports teams, right?
And then this is the same thing.
You know, the, you know, the VIPs
will also get allotment as well.
But like the, how do you say the black card holders
will get, you know, possibly again,
two, you know, esports team licenses,
one of them will give them to them for free at random
and then one of them will be auctioned off, right?
So if you want to own your actual own esports team
in a viable economy, right?
Then this is the way to do it.
And, you know, I've, you know,
spoken about esports and stuff like that
and how unsustainable it's all been.
And the reason why is because a lot of esports leagues,
they don't own their own IP.
But in this case, your esports team within this ecosystem
will be part of the IP, right?
And this for me solves esports in the sense that, you know,
a lot of times esports are looking for sponsorship
or they're looking for like certain rights.
And in this case, you will have the rights
because you'll be running it.
Imagine like, you know,
this is kind of inspired by my time in Malta.
If you guys don't know, Malta is a big like gaming jurisdiction
in what do you call it, in the EU.
But they have a soccer football league
and it's corrupt as fuck and everybody knows.
But it's their own Malta soccer league, right?
It just exists apart from everyone or else.
And no one really like cares about that league
because it's so corrupt.
But the people in Malta, they basically use it
as their corruption, you know, influence league
to see who's more corrupt almost
in terms of making bets and stuff like this, right?
And so for me, this solves esports in a way
on a very like niche level as well.
So yeah, to answer your questions,
the Black Card will give you so much access towards that.
Also, you know, whenever you do get one of these licenses
and stuff like that, we will have allotment for when
if we do like a token sale or something like that,
specifically for the Black Card holders.
So there's so much value there in the Black Card.
Because it's going to be not something that's limited
like after like X amount of drops,
like it doesn't have any more value
or there's not going to be that many drops, right?
Like loan sharking, horse racing, sports betting,
different types of casinos, racketeering, loan sharking, right?
All these things are going to be in the game, right?
And all these are going to require licenses.
So every single business within the game
and how we expand will require license.
And so these Black Card almost founder passes
will have value for the next like five, six, seven years
as we keep expanding it.
If you can think of a corrupt business
that we need to put in that's an underground thing,
other than like, you know, trafficking,
you know, we're going to do that.
And it's going to be in the game.
Yeah, thank you for drawing a limit somewhere.
You know, this engine has been explaining this whole concept to me.
I've been like, Oh, you know, maybe not bribing.
And he's like, not bribing for sure.
And then, you know, luckily, we didn't have to debate trafficking.
Oh, can you guys not hear me?
I can hear you too.
I hear you.
Okay, just Sam.
Okay. Yeah, no, you got internet.
Um, the commune.
Just a couple of things in the comments.
People keep calling sending Daddy.
I don't know why you guys make me uncomfortable when you do that.
Somebody said sinjin equals go jerry equal s go.
Or I don't know what that means.
I also know how to feel about that one.
I think you had a hand up next.
Go ahead.
I'm here for fresco being uncomfortable.
And Sam, I don't know what you did to you on.
But uh, you know, you're gonna have to take out the sample made enemies.
Um, sinjin, uh, congratulations, uh, first and foremost, uh, super exciting.
And, um, I'm really looking forward to this upcoming, uh, black card.
Um, uh, so I wanted to ask a little bit because this is really like,
I like how it's, you're comparing it to a founder's past and really building out
the, the world of, of Meiji and the gaming universe.
The first time I ever heard you speak was in wolves down.
And you were, you were telling the, the lore, uh, of my angry,
cause a girlfriend and the princesses and the whole story through.
And it's really captivating and I've, I've been a fan ever since, um,
and I played the game and really enjoyed it.
So my question is like, because you have so much more in store and in plan
beyond, uh, the, the first game mode, um, with these social casinos and, uh,
illegal businesses within the game, the GTA.
So, uh, I'm curious, like, cause you've spoken a lot about that.
Is there a roadmap or a plan or kind of like, uh, things that are, um, next up
and when you can kind of, I don't know if you can shed any details or light
into kind of when that's going to be out here and be available.
So we have a huge ecosystem map and, and believe it or not,
I fucking specked out every fucking game already.
There's an, there's a credit score in the game.
There is a reputational score.
So you have your own mafia reputational score.
And, uh, you know, uh, depending on how honorable or dishonorable you are,
the suppliers and the costs within the ecosystem raise out for you.
You have a credit score.
We're going to have a bank of may G we're going to be able to borrow
from the bank to bankroll your businesses as well.
But we'll have loan shark licenses.
Will they get a preferred rate to, you know, loan out to other people
who don't have the credit score there available.
So our beta is done and we're just waiting for the black card to get out there.
And, uh, uh, we're also, you know, prepping up for our token launch,
which, you know, for everyone who's played up to this point,
they're going to get an air drop.
And if you have your NFT, you're going to get an air drop of our, um,
and as long as you enabled it on discord of the in game token, which is the GLB,
which is our kind of like, uh, promotional token within the game.
Uh, but you know, anyone who's played is going to get a mere major air drop.
And that's going to like kickstart the economy first.
And then once the clans are built out, um, which we hope will happen,
let's say by June or something like that, then by August,
we're going to be releasing our first ecosystem games.
And so leading up to that point, we're going to do a lot of education.
So what I've found is that, um, the reality is that we have so much information,
but the reality is, is like the complexity of what we're really doing,
it's fairly overwhelming for web three.
And it's very overwhelming for a lot of people who really just want to have like,
you know, 140 character description of what they're kind of getting.
And, uh, you know, the reality is, is that, um,
even in the casino and in the poker business and stuff like this,
sorry, um, you know, you kind of just see the, the, the tip of the iceberg
and what's really happening behind the scenes is humongous.
Like if you are playing a casino, here's the player you're walking,
you sit at the table, nice plushy chair and stuff like that.
But if you're, if you're running the casino, right?
And that's what you guys will be basically doing is running the casinos
and stuff like this or the games.
There's a huge back end that you will have to do your own promotions
and stuff like that.
So there's a lot of education that's going to be required.
So what we're going to be doing is that before we launch the actual games,
starting in August, right?
And then releasing them one by one and allowing them to grow.
And to get a, you know, a more greater user base.
And I'll talk about the main market user base afterwards.
Mass market user base is that we will be selling the licenses
every two to three months, right?
So once this black card drops, right, you know,
and then our game is released in beta now,
and we're going to do like another like pre-launch beta period
of a really hardcore, you know, play to air draw period.
Then we will be doing, you know, our first casino licenses,
sports books, esports licenses during that time.
But in terms of like putting out the games, right?
You have to understand that for social casino games
and all these other stuff, they've been in development
since the browser days back in like 2000.
And so myself, if you ever check out my LinkedIn,
which is all public, I'm fully doxed, of course,
you'll see that go through like who's on my LinkedIn.
And you'll see like regulators of, you know, gaming commissions.
You'll see the top industry guys from the casino industry,
like super, super OG guys, because, you know,
that's where I'm from.
So I have access to all the white label solutions,
all the source codes for all these games.
So I can like throw up, I could literally throw up
a full casino in like 48 hours.
I'm not shitting you guys, I could do that.
Whatever state has, I could put that up in fucking 48 hours.
I'd be paying out of my nose for like revenue share on
with these white label solutions, but I could do that, right?
I could get a fucking license in a fucking week, right?
If you look at any other fucking founder in the space
and you like ask them, have you ever regulated a game
or gone to game legalized with a gaming commission
in the world?
There's none, right?
I mean, like this is where like this huge like kind
of disconnect where on Twitter, we're kind of all equalized
because a lot of people don't have any experience
as to like what things really entail, right?
But in terms of like the games
and when they're going to come out,
as soon as the only chance are fully like flushed out
and the game actually is running
where you guys realize that these businesses are coming out
and you're saving to, you know, basically invest in the game
or invest in, you know, getting a license
with other clan members.
That's where we're going to start to release it.
So we're not going to release it until we're ready for it.
We're going to wait and really grow the economy
in a planned way.
But yeah, basically by August, man, of this year,
we're going to start fucking wrecking it with the ecosystem.
Yeah, super interesting.
I see. Did you have any follow up questions on that?
There was a lot and to unpack
and I want to make sure you get the answer you want.
August, baby.
I got my answer.
Thank you, though, I'm on edge for Maddox's question.
Yeah. Well, all right.
I see took over the show for me.
Maddox here.
I'm just kidding.
How's it going?
Fresco kidding.
No, I'm really excited for this launch of the black card.
We've been waiting for this.
We're excited for this.
You know, I had the pleasure of being some of the
in one of the core test groups for Meiji.
And we've watched the game develop and change
and talked about all the exciting updates
and where it's going.
And I love that it's only the tip of the iceberg
for the whole project as a whole.
And something to be proud of, Sinjin, for sure.
You know this, we talk about this often.
But so I guess one good question
or like something rattling around in my brain
is like, what kind of headspace
do I have to be in as a black card holder?
Am I looking at the other Founder Pass members
as friends, enemies, or frenemies?
No, they're fucking enemies.
I mean, we're going all fucking enemies here,
unless you make a coalition and you basically say,
so what we're going to have is like the clans
are very small relative to like the ecosystem.
They're like, you know, going to be 12 players, right?
So at certain points, we're going to have,
you know, the ability for you guys
to basically make joint ventures
or coalitions or alliances within it.
So I guess maybe frenemies to some degree, right?
But there's always going to be some alpha at the top there,
the alpha dog there leading the pack there.
But you know, this is, you know,
even if you're not a Founder Pass holder, right?
You will be able to, you know,
basically come together with your other VIPs
or other players and kind of shoot for a license
that's going to make it worth your while.
And you know, for us, the one thing though,
is that as pretty much the head of the Yakuza ecosystem,
you know, I'm going to make it very equitable to get going.
And the thing that makes it the most equitable
in some respects is the Reputational Score.
And how the Reputational Score works is basically,
we are releasing a game that's basically like Clash of Clans,
but it's basically, you know, war with, you know, the Yakuza.
So like, you're going to have your own, you know,
Yakuza base of like ramen shops, massage parlors,
karaoke joints and stuff like this,
which you're going to basically build out.
And you could get raided by another, you know,
Yakuza team, all right, or clan,
just like in Clash of Clans, like your kingdom can be raided,
your territory can be raided.
And if it does, then certain parts of your businesses
will either be suspended,
or the revenue from that will be temporarily diverted
to these other Yakuza clans, right?
So even if you don't have a license,
but you decide to just fucking muscle it and break some legs,
you know, we're giving you that option within the game, right?
So in some ways, you know, I'm interested to see
how much of the alliances actually hold up, right?
Because ultimately, you know, betrayal is also part
of this game as well.
So certain, you know, alliances, you know,
you're going to have to choose well,
because you can get backstabbed in this game as well.
And you know, we put, you know, whatever the rails in there
for that to happen as well.
So yeah, depends on what you trust each other.
Just like our original game, head on a swivel
and make sure you're always paying attention for sure.
Yeah, exactly.
And if you've played the, you know, Meiji with Dub and Lemz,
you know, you should trust nobody.
So yeah, trust is trust on the last one turn, 20 seconds.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Not a lot of love in the old Tokyo underground.
Yeah, thanks for the question, Maddox.
Lemz hit me up in the DMs.
He can't raise his hand because he's on PC,
but we'll go to Lemz next.
I will say first that like Dub and I have had some good friendships.
It's usually Murdock who stabs everyone in the back
after like telling you he'll be friends with you
and then like the next turn and closing.
So never trust him. Sometimes I can be trusted.
He'll also unfollow your personal,
he'll also unfollow your personal Twitter account
if you can't name any of the Gen 1 Pokemon.
And all right, so since you have two, two-part question,
we'll go, the first part is an easy part.
We'll say like, so it's license specific per game.
Like I can't have like one license
and run poker and horse racing.
Like I'd need a license for each one. Is that right?
So yeah, so yes and no.
So not to get too complex about it,
but like there will be different licenses
that will represent how many licenses you can get
and you can trade up.
So there'll be like an underground casino license,
meaning that you'll have like five games in your casino.
Then there will be like a kind of whatever in the field
kind of like illegal like open air casino.
There'll be like 12 games
and then there'll be an integrated resort casino
which will have like 50 games or whatever like that, right?
And then you'll have to,
if you wanna have more than one casino game,
then you're gonna have to get one of these
kind of resort type of underground licenses first, right?
And then each individual game, you'll need a license as well.
So every single thing is a NFT license.
So if you wanna have a background table,
you wanna have a roulette table,
you wanna have slot machines,
those will be licenses as well.
But those will be, there will be many more of those, right?
So let's say that your clan is a broke ass clan, right?
And basically you can't have shit.
Then you can pick like one or two things.
Like you can pick like one slot machine
in your pathetic empire and so on and so forth
for shits and giggles or one poker table or whatever.
But if you wanna have like a full on poker room
and you will also have a landing page, right?
That will be public facing
and there will be in the game itself.
So Lemz, you have like the little lizards,
mafia group there, okay?
Then you'll have your own landing page
where players can come and then they can play
and specifically play on your casino
where you can give them bonuses in GBL or Meiji.
But yeah, every single thing in the game
that is an asset will be an NFT, right?
But they will be priced accordingly as well.
But also how many you can get.
And the reason for that is that we don't want
some like fucking stupid ass guild coming in
thinking that they can fuck this ecosystem up
and then buy like a hundred of these
and just distribute it to one guild.
That's never gonna fucking happen.
And yeah, metaphorically speaking,
we're gonna break some fucking kneecaps in the game
if people try to do shit like that, right?
And come down heavy on it.
So the whole thing is that you guys
who are here right now,
we do have a mass market plan
and I'll talk about that a little bit later.
But it is to create this core community
where we get to this point
where there is stability and growth
and this kind of model that really gets established.
Crazy shit happens in Vegas,
crazy shit happens in Macau,
but it happens within an acceptable range
and that's what we're looking for.
So Lem's a little second question.
Well, essentially I understand, right?
Essentially tiers to it
where you can have like a couple of games
or you can have a lot of games.
And then the second part that would be is the,
I guess it's like the limited supply
on the different tiers.
Because you mentioned everything's tradable.
So like, will these just,
will this be an ever expanding thing
with licenses as the player base grows?
Or will there be like a high level
cap limit on the different tiers?
No, no, there definitely will be a cap limit, right?
But because they're tiered, right?
So let's say that you started
with an underground casino
and then you're gonna get the next level license, right?
And then you're gonna sell that
and you're gonna get the next level license.
So just like a real like scarce economy, right?
That's how we're setting it up, right?
There's only gonna be X amount of licenses,
but because they're tiered,
you'll be able to move up with these.
And so you won't have to re-buy the games,
but you'll probably buy more games
because now on your landing page, right?
Or of your social casino, of your underground casino,
instead of five games now that you can present,
you can present 10 games.
So you'll keep the five games
that you have by five more games, right?
And then, you know, you're gonna sell
your old license and buy the new one.
So that way, those people who are, you know, scrubs
who are finally kind of making their way up, right?
They'll be able to get access
to these smaller licenses as well.
And you won't be able to keep them
because you're only gonna be able to have
one type of like casino license as well.
Gotcha, gotcha.
You mentioned how you keep the games.
So does that mean you can't sell the license
with the games and the games are kind of like bound
to your account, I guess, sort of thing.
And then you can just sell the licenses
or can you sell the license?
You can do either or.
Yeah, you can do both.
You can sell the games as a license.
You want to exit out of the casino business.
You want to get into racketeering, right?
Then yeah, you can do that.
You know, you own a resource track,
which will be very few of them, right?
And you want to sell the, you know,
your resource as a part of it.
You'll be able to do that as well
or sell them individually.
Yeah, awesome.
Awesome questions, Lambs.
Thanks for that.
We'll go dub and thank you, Mike.
Yeah, I first want to start with a statement.
Basically, anyone who threatens my empire
is fucking dead to me
and you're going to be so regretting your actions
that you wish you never even fucking got
involved in this game in the first place.
I look forward to buying all the shit
that you're going to pour
after you deal with my rap.
So don't even fucking come at me.
Talk to him.
I love this question.
Hey, Meiji is where I get to be a player
and have fun and this isn't my work,
you know, but God forbid he wouldn't fucking
cross me because I have an empire behind me
to make it happen.
He let his hair down.
He looks like an evil knight right there.
On-chain digital speech here.
Nothing in real life.
Okay, but go ahead.
Yes, dub.
Is it going to be designed in a way
where I have to crop it out
or anything to be able to publicize it
on Twitter without being shadowbanned?
Okay, yes.
So the black card design is
just to give you like the pre-reveal of it.
It's just basically our version of like the,
you know, the, you know, a real black card, right?
So it's going to look like that.
So yeah, nothing, nothing racy there.
They're really cool.
They're not like the porn cards you get
like from those random dudes in Vegas.
Now they're, these are, you know,
safe for work.
Sorry, for the disappointment there.
Doug, Doug, giving me big thumbs downs over there.
No, man, I said what I just said
and I got what I needed to get.
So best of luck.
I love, I love the heel turn that Dove just had.
That's awesome.
Dove is, you know, in my MVP right now.
Spike, what's up?
Yo, what's up, guys?
Glad to jump on board and ask some questions.
I actually have questions about the only chance.
So sorry to like dethrone the whole entire thing,
but I'm expecting like
protagonist, anime male character vibes.
Are we talking like full tatted out?
You choose the members.
For the only chance,
they're going to be a series of like,
there's going to be 17 series, right?
So like up to, I'm sorry.
Yeah, 12, 12 that will be for
12 different types of only chance that you can get
if you have a regular VI sin princess
and then 17 if you're a VIP
and they will all be, you know,
only Chan means big sister in Japanese.
So there will be different styles of your captains, right?
And they will be more less risque than your sin princess.
There'll be more.
Yeah, more badass, cute, or beautiful or fucking ugly parkour.
Yeah, but wholesome.
Yeah, we're not going to get you.
I've learned my lesson on Twitter, right?
You know, my account is like a plus 17 account or 18 account.
So if you don't have your adult settings set on,
you can't find me.
We found that because I was talking to some VCs
and they're looking for me and they're like,
I can't find you.
And I go, do you have your adult settings on, right?
And they're like, I didn't even know
Twitter has adult settings.
And you don't even know that
unless you like try to follow me
because if you don't have your thing on adult settings,
you can't even see a picture of a cat on my profile
because this content may be not safe for work
or whatever like that.
So yeah, I've learned my lesson.
Yeah, they will not be so risque.
And quick follow up.
And it's the collector in my name now.
Is there going to be like rare traits
or attributes associated with those?
Or is it going to be like the last collection
It's going to be the last collection.
The reason for that is I fucking hate play to win.
So like that includes the traits and stuff.
I believe that you get your game asset
and whatever you like.
They're only rare because of whatever.
I mean, obviously like if you have a Katana,
then you have your Katana in game as well.
And then obviously as we do more game development
and polish and stuff like that,
you'll be able to switch out your Katana
for a different Katana like in game.
But no, there's never any kind of play to win mechanics
in the core game.
In the other games,
the other games are all fucking pay to win.
In the sense that it's your business.
So how much you want to invest in it.
But for core gameplay,
there's never pay to win in the major universe
because I fucking said so.
And I fucking hate those kind of games.
Except for the Katana because I own six of them
and you know, pump it.
It's just for you, Doug.
I don't want to get my legs broken on the metaverse.
Yeah, we'll put my job over.
Just for Doug.
I think we'll go Doug, Murdock, and then TQ to wrap it off.
And then I'm going to have to start filtering people off stage.
But Doug, Doug, what's going on?
Oh, sorry.
Can you please address me by my official name?
The mayor of Hype City.
St. John's as the mayor of Hype City.
I just want to let you know that in public,
everything is, you know,
it's all about cake and sunshine.
When we're here around the underbelly of Hype City,
so I can, you know, get payment paid off,
whatever needs to get done to get stuff done in Hype City
just needs to get done.
So I just want to let you know officially.
Also, I'm only here really to build a cartel of people
so we can run MAYC properly.
You know what I'm saying?
Whoever wants to be my nefarious gang
and underbelly of Hype City,
I'm here for it, St. John's.
I'm sorry I can't talk often.
I'm usually on set with Macaulay Culkin.
I'm on my way to a suit right now, St. John's.
So I apologize for my lack of availability,
but I'm always here whenever you call St. John's, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Thank you, brother.
Yeah, Doug, I really appreciate that
and I look forward to your cartel
and Doug is actively recruiting at the moment.
So if you want to be part of his cartel,
DM him to be part of his cartel.
He's actively recruiting,
but you'll have to be able to eat cake
and party in a fur coat to qualify.
No fur coat.
You also have to be able to do spin cakes
that explode, St. John's,
because that's what my gang does.
That's not a bad addition, actually.
We should do that as a cosmetic.
You know, instead of Molotov,
it's like a slice of cake,
like Steve Aoki or something.
Yeah, that's great, actually.
I support that.
We'll call it the Doug slice or something.
It's, you know, legend has it.
So let's leave Steve out of this game.
Steve is not allowed.
Steve Aoki is not allowed
to buy any of our NFTs ever.
Oh, okay. Sorry, Steve.
Sorry, Steve.
Appreciate the support though, Doug.
You know, we need Steve and you got Doug.
Pirate Master Murdock.
What's going on?
Can you guys hear me?
Yes, sir.
Well, for those who don't know,
I'm the Meiji's current best player out there.
So don't want to say anything,
but if you can't beat me,
you can't even claim to own an empire.
So just throwing it out there.
Two weeks ago,
I beat Dub very easily
and I've got the screenshots
and the recordings as proof.
So I can share those at any time, Dub.
And anyone else who wants to challenge me,
let me know.
I'll schedule you guys in
and I will gladly beat you
and then take my own.
Murdock is definitely a beast.
But my big question was,
can we get more than one black card
and is there anything preventing people
from just buying a bunch
either with multiple wallets or anything?
Yeah, great question.
Because the supply is so low.
You guys know that I don't do things,
the Web3 attention economy way,
because I actually want to build
out a game with good value, right?
This basically makes me look like an idiot
to all the crypto Twitter bros
who think that I'm leaving money on the table.
But because it's 88,
basically with the few communities
that we're working with,
we're working with Neo Tokyo,
XBorg and Overworld to give them white lists.
I actually gave them an option.
Do you want an over allocated white list?
And you just kind of like,
here it is and then you fight it off
first come first server.
Do you want a guaranteed white list?
And they said guaranteed white list.
And so basically,
the people who are on the white list right now,
it's not going to be over allocated
maybe by just a little bit,
like literally like four or five.
That's still kind of a work in progress.
There are still some slots available
that we've kind of reserved.
And originally Meiji was going to reserve
10 for ourselves for our treasury
and in case in the future
we want to give some
but it's already been willed down
to like eight already
just because we want to give up more
to like certain communities
and to certain individuals.
What's going to prevent people
from buying more than one?
I mean, it's a secondary market
but I have some other founders
of other game studios
that refuse to take a white list from us.
I just want to give it to us a gift
and they said they're going to buy it
on the open market
to support Meiji directly.
here's the thing about the Alpha
is that we're not playing
the fucking speculative game very well
but I'm trying to do it
this particular time
although doing the promotions
for the 88,
the reason why it's so short
is because we actually want
to release the fucking game.
And so we should have done promotions
like three weeks ago
but we're still working out details
and stuff like that.
So you guys get the Alpha.
So that's it.
And I want to announce now
it's going to be a free mint.
And the reason why we're doing a free mint
and the reason why we did a free mint
from the very first collection as well
is because from my point
in what we're doing
as like a social casino,
the GTA of social casinos
and this mafia game
and then the nature of cryptocurrencies
is that I want to be the farthest
down the ladder of what the SEC
or any other jurisdiction
could consider like your securities
or anything like that.
We have been extremely,
extremely aware and compliant
and then obviously using my background
as a regulatory consultant
and gaming executive
to be on the farthest
of the most conservative
right side of this, right?
So yeah, even this promotional period
actually kind of works out
because we're not like
splitting it all over
and hopefully we're not going to get
the crypto bro saying
this is fucking going to moon
and all this other bullshit.
You know, we're doing it
for the ecosystem
but like long story short is
yeah, there won't be restrictions
from other people
but in terms of botting
and shit like that
these people can all fuck off
because I'm basically not doing
a first come first serve thing.
Like we're not really
over allocating anything unless like
communities actually want us to do
so they can like give out
some more white lists
for the sake of giving out more white lists
because it's only 88.
So yeah, that's it.
And if anyone wants to sell it
and you pick them up
then you know that's it.
It's their loss.
But here's the thing, right?
If you really look at the metrics
for what our team is, okay?
Danny Pisano who is Pisano
who is our senior producer
he was the ex-studio head
for Bandai Namco's casual game division.
He was an ex-studio head
of Bando Namco.
He has like gaming patents.
You know, he was whatever
a corporate EA producer for EA.
That's like the Mr. Fox
and the fucking producers.
Like you go on the teams
and you find out
who was an actual corporate producer
like head office producer
for the major gaming studios.
You're not going to find many
on any of these teams.
It's like a super fucking
rarefied level position.
I fucking legalized poker
in Macau and opened up.
They introduced the entire game
and established the game
of poker in Asia.
I flew like 90 flights a year
for like two years
and I was a government advisor
for card games for China.
Like there's no comparison
with our team with like 99%
of even the established teams
from these other studios, right?
But like people they don't
they don't get that.
They don't see that
we can say that whatever like that
they're all looking for
like the bullshit hype
and we have to kind of
compete against that.
So like for this particular drop
I'm happy that you know
we're not getting
all the fucking hype here
because we'll get it
with the business.
We'll get it with the ecosystem.
We'll get it with like
how it comes out.
So you know if you end up
picking up three or four
good on you brother, you know
and I'm always happy to have you
like just going with us all the way
and I appreciate all the support
you've given up to us.
Anyways Murdoch
from right from the beginning
and you are a beast in the game.
Yeah there we go.
Confirmed.
Confirmed the best right there.
You guys heard it right there.
He just said you're a beast, you know.
Phil's just up there.
Lem's is up there.
Murdoch's up there.
Yeah I'm just saying that
the one tournament you guys threw
was the one week I was on vacation
and didn't have my computer with me.
But I mean if you would have
had it playable on a Mac
I could have used my 10 year old Mac
that I bring with me when I travel
that lags like crazy
and I still would have beat up.
You know what I'm hearing Murdoch?
Some excuses.
Some say you went on vacation
to duck the smoke man.
No I went to Vegas.
There we go.
You're getting immersed in the culture.
Although I do have two other things.
One is to Fresco.
I will follow you back again
once you can prove that
you know more than just
Gen 1 and Pokemon.
Other than Gen 1.
And I'll follow you back.
And yeah.
And then the second thing is
anyone who's actually good at Meiji
send me a DM and we can play.
And if you're actually good
I'll make sure you have a spot
on the esports team that I have.
And if you are good
and you're playing for someone else already
still give me a DM
and I'll just buy you from them.
So we're good.
Murdoch flexing his whale bags already.
His intention.
That's amazing.
And recruiting for his team.
You know this guy's gonna have a whole
you know a little harem.
He's got an entire cabal
and a cartel already out in Asia
with his pirate nation already.
I've got it in multiple countries.
I think it's five languages now.
Each one has over like 1,500 people in it.
So I'm ready.
Murdoch's not fucking around, boys.
Dub's gonna have to protect his empire for sure
against the empire of Murdoch.
The pirate.
The pirate king.
Pirate king, yeah.
I'm the pirate king now.
TQ I believe was oh
before we go to that.
You know I think like one thing
that Sinjin and I haven't really
talked about like super publicly
is like how well the Meiji economy
is built and why it's super different
from a lot of like other web
three game economies for a lot
of different reasons.
We should probably do a space
on just the Meiji economy soon
and why it's you know ultimately
going to be extremely sustainable.
But Sinjin's absolutely right.
You know I think there's very little fear
that when we start to like upscale things
you know that the game will hit
the number of players that it needs to
to ultimately be sustainable.
And thus you know we do kind of avoid
some of the hype cycles
and attentions that you know things
and you know both of us feel
pretty confident that that'll come.
I don't know if Sinjin
do any thoughts on that
or should we throw it to TQ next?
Let's start with the TQ
because that's like in another
like three fucking hours of like
yeah that's a whole other space.
Yeah yeah yeah.
But needless to say
what I'm going to see is that
once it gets into like
the real business of shit
the thing is with a lot of founders
is that in web2 traditional gaming
like you don't do any of the marketing
you don't do any of the management of it.
It's very divided between
the development of the game
and then the publisher.
I'm one of the few that's done both
being an executive for PokerStars
and a lot of people
they don't really know
how big PokerStars is
because they got acquired
and so on and so forth.
In 2009 which was my last year
I left in 2010
we made 1.2 billion US
with an 89% profit margin.
Right and I was a core executive
of you know obviously of PokerStars
and so like other guys
who are like mobile game developers
they say this bullshit online
like I'm responsible
for a billion dollars in revenue.
Yeah for one or two fucking years
where you put in like 200 million
and you fucking you know
bought all these adverts.
Okay you know I was an executive
of a multi-billion dollar company
with multi-billion dollar revenues
every fucking year.
You know I had a fucking poker room
in the biggest
one of the biggest casinos in Macau.
I lived in a fucking casino
for three years
in the fucking executive suite.
Right so like let's get real here.
Right if you're going to do
an open game economy
right and it's going to be in casino
like this is fucking my bag.
You know we're just going to go
from string to string.
This is the fucking easy part for us.
Right yeah yeah
I love how Sinjin's always like
I'm not going to talk about it
but then he goes into it
and then my favorite thing about Sinjin
no no I like it dude I love it.
Uh TQ what's up?
Hey guys I hope you can hear me.
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah yeah
I'm sorry if I sound really sleepy
it's like five a.m
but there's no other person
that's gonna I'm gonna be staying up for
at four to five a.m then Sinjin
after our call.
I have a bunch of things to say
because in a space full of fake actors
of people that are pretentious
about the communities that they got
that are paid engagements
and are bots everywhere.
Sinjin really saw through
a lot of shit
and I don't think anybody knows me
the way Sinjin knows me to be honest.
And it's so funny
because I worked in the casino
in City of Dreams
as a head of events in there
and he's not kidding.
I know the culture
that goes around casinos
and what it means to to be associated
with a social casino
and your own metaverse
is insane.
For ownership for creators like me
because anybody who plays poker
knows that the house always wins.
And and what if like I already thought
about all the money that I've spent
and I'm not kidding.
And in VR, poker,
wait what was that poker game
that we played in VR?
Because we we pay we pay a poker
was it poker stars?
It was poker stars.
We played poker stars VR
Yo I I spent
I spent okay I'm sorry
I just love
I just love the social interaction
and and we need more games like this
right because users can connect
with each other
in a shared virtual environment
that is relevant to the IRL
that we all know
and these games not only break down
social barriers
which is everywhere
even in marketing
NFT gaming
there's barriers
okay I know there's
because I don't get the same seats
as other people in this space
and that's coming from someone
in Southeast Asia
which data says
it's the number one in NFT gaming
for 2024 and 2025.
I don't know why
nobody's giving equal seats
for people here
except you know
and this what this means for us
owning our own
owning our IPs is so important
when Sinjin said
there's a lot of people with
that they don't own IPs
this is this is true
even with creators
like imagine being a creator
and you don't own your IP
right like how how
so where is the empowerment in that
and so this is why
I love my M-A-G
I love M-A-G
because then you know what
you have an IP
you're thirsty for that spot
go get it
build your community
this is you
you're the house
you're gonna win
plus the art is banging
I'm not gonna lie
I love the art of my
Signe Princess
and I can't wait for my own chance
but this game is something
that I think I'm gonna be playing
for a while
and I'm a pretty new girl
about the game
so guys just DM me
if you have any tips
because I'm gonna need
some alliances
the trap house is an alliance
that you're gonna want
because I set the best traps
ladies and gentlemen
thank you
I love you too
Pirate King
you got some competition there
she's got like
fucking a whole nation behind her
don't worry
I can teach you how to be a pro
I've seen her girlfriends
that are almost better than me
after one play test
and that's me
giving his black card
to his wife
says the standard guys
we need more of that
empowered King vibes
in this space
give your wives
your black card
that's the best
Chinese do your gift
if she had a Twitter profile
her name would be Sin Jin
but it would be like
you know like
no all right
shoot or shoot
appreciate the support
I've always been a big fan of you
appreciate what you do
for M-A-G
and the ecosystem
I believe we had
Mr. House next
first off Resco
and Sin Jin
thanks for having me up
if you want to put your money
let's see who's going to show there
the one question I had
and it kind of follows up
well to what TQ was mentioning
is Sin Jin
I was wondering
if you could touch a little bit more
on your plans
with the IP of the Cine brand
and kind of your
your long-term plans for that
because you've spoken on it
a little bit in Discord
and I've always found it
really fascinating
yeah so for the overall IP
and the management
obviously we're keeping that
with the studio
and the reason for that is
think of us as more like the
the McDonald's head franchisee
right so a lot of the promotions
that are going to happen
to support you and the clans
is going to happen from us
so leaderboard prizes
all this other stuff
people will be able to run their own
like mini promotions
stuff like that
but we'll be doing it
like basically
we'll be doing the mass marketing
actually you know
overall and stuff like that
so in that sense
the way the Meiji is going
in terms of
the direction of the IP
we're still managing that
where you guys will really manage
your own IP
is your own plans right
so your clan
you'll be able to design
your own crest
you'll be able to have your own landing page
within the
within the game launcher
people will be able to search you
discover you
you have your own landing page
for your sports book
all this other stuff
and that's where
you know your IP
of your clan
is really going to really kick in there
but in terms of overall IP
the reason why
Meiji is the way it is
is that you know
when I first got into web3
you know the real like
kind of arch type model
was really PFPs right
and you know
it was all about the IP
and the branding there
and so I thought
this is fucking amazing
right like these
digital assets
digital IP
in the form of these NFTs
you know where can this really go
and my mind went to
luxury goods
went to like
all these other kind of things
and so you know
the sin brand
within the game
is meant to be
our fashion brand right
and that's where it kind of comes from
and so in the lore of it
you know Mickey
the main character
her day job is you know
the brand communications manager
of this fashion brand
you go into the game
you'll see you know
sin everything
whatever so and so forth there
so you know
building out that
so you know
some of the items
that are going to be in game
like bags
and you know
so and so forth
that are fashion items dresses
you know we're going to get
like local designers
to design these dresses
we already have one bag
design from a former Celine
bag designer
and we're going to make
these bags in real life
and these items in real life
which we're going to you know
obviously auction off
or whoever has the NFT first
will you know
get first dibs on
and stuff like that
and so in terms of like
the Meiji brand itself
and the scope of the IP
anything to do with
social casinos
or luxury
that's where we're going to
move into
so that is really going to be
directed by the studio
but of course
the clans themselves
can co-op what they want
of the IP
within their own
clans themselves
I appreciate that
and apologies
because I've heard
you mentioned sin
probably a hundred times
at this point
but I think
that's the first time
much recent comment
that I've pronounced
it correctly
I appreciate you
yeah yeah
yeah great
thanks guys
yeah appreciate
the question Mr. House
and you know
appreciate the supports
you've given to the project
we have Prof
with his last person
with his hand up
so we'll throw out to Prof
and then there's a couple people
who like Ed
I saw you come up here
a bit ago
not sure if you're on a PC
and can't raise your hand
or anything
but we'll kind of close
if you have any thoughts
feel free to speak
you're definitely right
about Senjin
he's cool as fuck
and when I first met him
I was like yep
I already fucks with this guy
and had a good time
and just being his vision
about everything
and I'm like
holy shit
this is a lot different
than what I'm used to
the web trees
inevitable types
and all that
it's like
it is crazy
I saw I saw you guys hang out
so just want to give you
guys a shout out
because that's awesome
because the you know
real recognize
is real in the space
and Senjin knows a lot
about my culture as well
and that's why
we had like a talk
for like three hours
or four hours
and love the lore of MAYG
represents empowered women
love never let's go
yep my sister
she was able to play
and she liked it
but I'm still trying to get her
to play it again
she's making me mad
she's always busy
with like schoolwork
and everything
but I just can't wait to see
like this whole casino stuff
because I know a lot of people
who are who gamble
and everything
and literally when you said
the house
like runs things
I literally
asked that to one of my guys
and he was like
yeah the house
runs everything
if you can get as many people
as possible
I'm like what
and then you said a TQ
it's crazy
yeah and you know
really it's
it's an interesting concept
to think about right
because in you know
in regular life
none of us get to become
the house right
but MAYG actually allows people
to you know
play both sides of the
of the coin there right
and you know
it's crazy
even more fresco
I don't I'm sorry
I don't mean to intercept
I know Ed got his hand
it means so much
to creators like me
who also advocate
for things
that are not legal
to where I am right now
you know what I'm saying
like it's
it's like criminal
criminality is subjective
depending on the time
where you're born
or if you're born
in the right place
or the right time
and so I think this
even attaches
to so much more deeper
than just luxury
or empowering women
really empowers
the creator themselves
like we are the house
sinjin made it possible
for us to create
our own safe spaces
because this main space
we lack a lot of it
so we need to give
him the flowers
and that support
out of all the visionaries
that looking out
for our creators
it's it's really
legends like him
on the standard
so appreciate you
for that sinjin
yeah go ahead
appreciate that
very much
and you know
sinjin does
you know he he's
he's like a jelly bean
he's got this
hard gruff exterior
but he's soft
on the inside
and he never shows
but he does have
a heart of gold
sorry to expose you
there sinjin
ed you were here
last question for you
and i'm going to close
the space down
perfect thanks so much
i totally forgot
to raise my hand
but thinking back
to the economy
and discussion
and licensing
so originally i was trying
to consider
what happens
if someone sits
on one of those licenses
just hoping to resell
but is the invested bankroll
how you add a cost sink
that's offset
by the traffic
from people playing your game
if you miss maintain
your bankroll
can the licenses
fall back to the house
or even better
could a competing group
sabotage your traffic
to try to create
a situation
where you lose the license
yeah so you'll always maintain
great question
that's a really great question
you'll always maintain
the license right
but after like
even if you sit on it
what's going to happen
is that exactly
to your first point
you will need to have
a bankroll to really
run your license anyways
right and there is a chance
where through mismanagement
basically you lose everything
because you know
you've mismanaged things
and what we mean by that
is that whether it's sportsbook
or casino
but i'll give an example
for both is that
normally for big sportsbooks
what ends up happening
is that you're looking for
like the big
the margin in between
so what you'll do
is that you're not going to
look for your profit
in the win and the loss
you're going to basically
have x amount of bets
on one side
and then you will take bets
on the other side
right to equal that out
so you're going to take
you know your like
five to ten percent margin
or seven percent margin there
now there are some times
where certain sportsbooks
will not hedge their bets
like you know
a thousand to one bet
right or they'll take on a whale
and they haven't hedged that
so the whale came in
for like two million dollars
right because you think
like this guy
there's no way this guy
is going to win
and then the hands of winning
like whatever
forty million dollars
on this one million dollar
or two million dollar bet
and you basically go bankrupt
right you can't afford
to pay it off
and then basically
you're effectively shut down
because a lot of the the bets
that are going to be happening
on the system obviously
are going to be automated
right so they're going to be set up
they're not going to be manually done
through booking
or whatever like that
like it's actually going to be online
so in that particular case
right you know
in order to like finance it
like you will go in a receivership
right and you're going to have to be
able to like pay it off
and then it's just going to go
into a lien
until you can pay it off
so what is happening is more
not that you lose a license
it's just going to go under a lien
and you won't be able to use a license
until you pay that back
and when that ends up happening
is that the competition
obviously will benefit from you
being taken out
the other way to like
take out another license
or whatever is that
the license is going
and you're not defending your territory
and then your revenues
are being split from
normally what you would get
and it's being diverted to this other clan
that's basically made you
you know their bitch
for a next period of time right
but in terms of losing the license itself
we're not going to implement that yet
it's an interesting idea
I haven't gone to that point to
spec that particular part out
and this is great
having this discussion with you
as it stands no
like right now no
because your NFT
you'll still be able to keep it
and those people
who just want to sit on it to flip it
I think that's fine too
because it reduces the competition
but ultimately you know
the business itself
should be worth more than license
so for instance like
if you have a license
in a thriving like gaming jurisdiction
like Macau or Vegas
you know number one is
you will be able to raise the investment
regardless right
to you know throw up a casino
if you have one of these coveted licenses
number two is that
you would lose more money
from not using the license
than using the license right
and so like as long as like
the market metrics
makes sense in terms of the incentive there
you know we're going to let the market
really decide how it goes
but if you do get that license
right that is your that's your own
NFT you know ownership right
and so you know we have no plans
to get that away from you
but in the ecosystem you know
there would be definitely a lean on it
no that's perfect
thank you so much
yeah you're very welcome
and that's part of having
the Meiji bank as well
so the bank of Meiji
will provide those things
or you can go to a loan shark
if you don't qualify for a loan
and you basically you can dig yourself
even deeper into this hole here
you know we're not going to have bankruptcy
because that's not the way that
you know the criminal underground works
you're just going to fade to obscurity
but at that point where like
let's say you do go in a bankrupt
you'll be able to sell that license
with the lien on it
for someone to take it over
and you may actually still come out on top
the whole thing about
the social casino aspect of it
and why I left casinos is that
fundamentally
and I really want to say this very clearly okay
casinos are completely rigged
and they're fucking evil okay
no matter what the net benefit
it looks like it's going to have
for society it's always negative
because you know I've said this
on before on other spaces
but there's a saying in
like Guangzhou China
which is like the southern area of China
that if your son is addicted to gambling
it is better to lock him in a room
with drugs women and liquor
so that he only destroys himself
and not the whole family
and I really believe that's true
you know my involvement with
you know the casino industry
was really with poker
and then on the investment
and strategy side
when I had offers
after I left poker stars
to basically run
massive online casinos
for massive organizations
and you know I'm not bullshitting
because you can literally go
to a lot of casino operators
and say you know
I could even give you references
but not really
not that you're ever going to be able
to talk with these people
but not because you're not worthy
but you know it's certain people
you just don't really want to meet anyways
they'll say yeah back in like
you know singe in this position
or you know he could have run this
and he could have been up
like half a billion dollars
or whatever
and I'm not bullshitting there
it's true
because like there are other guys out there
who I've advised
and I've helped you know
into the casino industry
and they're up
you know a billion or two billion dollars
and you know I've had that opportunity
but there's kind of a
in your life
everyone has this kind of
and it's really hard to see
when you're kind of in the middle of it
and it's hard to see
when you've crossed that line
but you always know
when you cross that line
because you don't sleep well at night
right and for me
you know there's a certain line
that I didn't want to cross
and you know I was
you know on the verge of that
and it didn't sit well with me
but with social casino
and what's beautiful about this
you will hold on to your asset
and even with your Meiji right
if you lose everything in the game
right you will be able to wake up
the next day
you will still have your Meiji
that you've leveled up
which will have worth
on the secondary market
but it will also give you
you know what we call
our angry points
our social like energy points
to play games
and if you wanted to
you could grind from zero
back up to making your empire work
and especially if you're a clan
you can support one another
so there's never a net zero
for the actual user here
because the value of the user itself
is in the liquidity
and the community liquidity
provide for the ecosystem
and that's why I love this model
and that's why I'm going back
into this model
it's not to say
that I'm not consulting
other projects right now
recently obviously
because of roll been stuff like that
I'm like fucking like
two to three times a week
I'm getting calls from people
who are going to open up
the next role bit
and they want me to advise
or whatever
but I've taken on
two advisory roles on games
which are not like
how do I say
exploitive in the kind of
wagering space
they're either on the social
kind of wagering space
or they're more
P2P wagering
I've never had a problem
with something like poker
where it's like P2P
so like if you're going to sit
at that table
right I mean
you're going to need to use
your skill
to make it happen
right and you're controlling
your risk
whereas gambling
it's a different beast
right but social gambling
and people who are addicted
to social casino
there's a limit to
how much you can really
fucking damage yourself
and stuff like that
you can get the thrill of
playing and playing these
wagering games
and stuff like that
but you're not
in that position
where you're really
at financial risk
right and so for me
yes is social casino
does it make a lot
less money than casino
but you know
is it sufficient enough
to make this economy
work and make an environment
where it's enjoyable
and it's kind of like
this kind of
there I say second life
of your you know
for this particular setup
you know and again like
I enjoy these spaces
even though I ramble on
because it's a moment
where we can have
more discussion
and really get into
the depths of things
if you think about
like some of the other
founders in the space
who are real game developers
that are not just here
as crypto bros
doing some game five bullshit
like Paul Bettner
or the shrapnel team
and we could talk
for hours and hours
and hours on the thought
and the nuance
and and you know
our passion
as to you know
what we want
these games to kind of be
and that doesn't really
come out on crypto
Twitter very well
through you know
whatever 140 characters
but you know
in order to create
something like
a sustainable economy
like truly
a truly sustainable economy
there's a lot of complexity
and there's a lot of depth
and so yeah
I just wanted to kind of
end off on there
but one thing though too
is I guess on the next space
that we'll have
we'll talk about
our mass market plan
because really
what this is leading up to
is and I'll just give
this one thing
is that we will have
the ability for players
once the entire ecosystem
set up of the social casino
that even if you're
not part of the Meiji universe
you will be able to come in
as a normie
and just play directly
on any of these
social casino
clan like splash pages
and just enjoy it
as if it was like
you know Facebook
or Zenga platform
or whatever like this
and those players
will also be able to get
like a VIP high roller NFT
that shows that
they are a player
within the game
and then they will be able
to play in different casinos
and have their own reputation
as a high stakes player
in our social casino
right so like
if you go to the win
or you go to the Venetian
or whatever like that
and you're a VIP
at the Venetian
that does not mean
you're a VIP
in the win okay
because they're just like
they're set
at wherever they're at
but in our ecosystem
you'll be a VIP
throughout the union
then we're going to hit
the mass market
and we never will dilute
our core NFT collection
right we're never going to dilute
these licenses
when they're coming out
these are that scarcity
that needs to happen digitally
and this is the one thing
that I think people miss
right now we have NFTs
and now we have true ownership
but if you don't have scarcity
with that ownership
what the fuck is the worth
of the ownership
imagine you had like a rare skin
like a really sick rare skin
even in Fortnite
and they kept it in the marketplace
for like the next five seasons
well there'd be so many of them
that the only reason
why you like that skin
is just because
you like that skin right
but in terms of the scarcity
value of true ownership
you know you lose that right
and so that's part of the equation
of ownership
that ownership
when you have that house
you have that business
it's because you have that business
in that particular location
you have that house
in that particular neighborhood
someone else can't have that house
in that neighborhood
or that neighborhood
doesn't extend for the rest of the city
it's that particular neighborhood
so these are the kind of considerations
which myself and the team have made
to really move forward
because what I'm looking at here
is not a 10x
I'm looking at a 100x
where for the very fucking first time
in all of human history
do we have a truly
digital economy
that is not reliant
on any real world kind of value
it's totally in the system
and that's only possible
in this web3 space of
our own currency
our own token
that have now become
that scares digital assets really
and I think every time
that you don't make it scares
you fucking are missing the plot here
and obviously
this is the direction we're looking at
so it's one to end off
on that point guys
yeah awesome point
and super true
blockchain is I think
one of the best things about it
is like groupable scarcity
a lot of the time
and I think people
don't really talk a lot about that
and I think it's a weapon
that people have
and don't use
because they get stuck on
the first yeah well
they get stuck on the first layer
they're fucking idiots
you know they're like
I'm gonna mint fucking more
and I'm gonna fucking whatever
any game that is like
using NFTs
as their revenue model
they're already fucked
right because
they're going against
the entire point of ownership
fundamentally
right and I guess
the one thing
that I wanted to say too
because our space
so I can just fucking keep talking
wherever the fuck I wanted to say
not that you know
Sam is a great host
and so he keeps it like going
otherwise like
no one would ever
come back these spaces
and probably you guys
will never come back to the space
because I'm just fucking
tearing off on it
but you know
the main thing is like
when you have like
an economic system
and then you
you end up making it
into like
an unlimited supply
right and you set up
the scholarship system
the reality is
the axi infinity scholarship system
was fucking digital slavery
because you had two tiers
you had the owners
and then you had these players
who were just fucking playing
for like whatever right
and there was no chance
of them getting ownership ever
because it was just like
out of their reach
because the meta would change
and then the guilds will come in
and then they re-buy all the meta
so even if you bought like floor axes
you would never be competitive right
that's just a fuck model right
and what was the point okay
so instead of like real life slavery
we're going to go into digital slavery
so like these are all the considerations
and I would say this okay
I love axi infinity
I think that they are definitely
the pioneers of what they've done
right but this I would say is
basically like 2.0
like all the things that we learn
from axi infinity
and then I put together my you know
experience in real money casino
and gaming and in economics
like I went to Harvard Kennedy School
I studied economics right
like I'm putting that level
of consideration into this
I was a casino executive
at one of the biggest casinos
in basically the whole world
at the biggest you know
online poker gambling site
in the fucking whole world
and I'm putting that expertise
into this right
and the class you know
I'm turning 49 this year
fuck I can't believe it
and you know you guys will get
the benefit of all that
in this design
and that's the death we're coming to
right the depth
so you know for us
this black card moment
and being able to reveal
our ecosystem is like
finally something that
not just I'm getting off my chest
but we can really start
to really dive into
and you know
I didn't want to do that
because I didn't want to look
like a fucking grifter
before our first game was done
so there was always this need
to get the first game done
because also this is the game
that mints for the rest of the economy
and so if I couldn't be confident
that I could get this game right
then everything else is bullshit
right and you know
I talk a fucking big game
but if you meet me in real life
if you really go through my LinkedIn
you talk to the people
who really know me right
I am a fucking evil motherfucker
who gets this shit done
I'm not a fucking DJ right
I'm not a fucking like
top fucking DJ
and who like fucking talks
about Lambos and shit like that
I want to fucking crush
and I want to crush an industry
and with you guys
and for all the VIPs and holders
and everyone who's on the space
I hope we can crush together
because that's my only reason for living
is crushing and taking people's souls
and you know using this as redemption
so I don't go to fucking hell
by you guys getting the benefits
so we'll leave it at that
yeah good place to end off
yeah so to kind of summarize things
January 30th on exterior
black card mint will be happening
Sinjin you want to do this again
tomorrow after gamified
yes it would be fantastic
we'll do a follow-up
we'll talk more about economy
we'll talk more about the marketing plan
finish some of the questions
about the black card pass
but very much appreciate everybody
for tuning in
and appreciate the sports
you guys have given us thus far
and we'll see you guys
catch Sinjin and I on gamified tomorrow
and then we'll do a little wrap-up show
afterwards and you know
talk more about the black cards
and you know what's to come from AG
so thank you guys
hugs and kisses
love all you guys
and bring all your questions
thank you guys
and thank you for everyone who's come out
I see so many of our community here
and I want to give a shout out to
I mean he was a very early supporter
he got me into Neo Tokyo
and you know
I want a special shout out to him
and there's Tadashi there in the crowd
and Mr. Biz and Dante
and Felish and Meta Mason
and all you guys
like seriously
thank you guys so much for coming with
us here on this journey
to this point
I truly truly truly appreciate
each and every one of you
for being with us on this long term
Addis and Erika and Matt and Gobi
and Graslow days
Maddox of course
and Asari you know
King Smooch
Arto Charlie
Boom Boom Boris
you know guys
thank you I love you
I hope is Mr. Biz as well
Dang it oh my god
thank you guys so much
I just really appreciate everything guys
Love you guys see you tomorrow