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Zebec Ecosystem Spaces: Octaspace, XDB, Boba Network & Zano
Recorded: Sept. 3, 2025 Duration: 0:33:19Space Recording
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Thank you. so Thank you. okay that's enough of all of that hello everyone how are you doing can you hear me can people hear
me loud and clear how are you dude how's your day pretty good so far you know just uh happy
wednesday to everybody happy wednesday you man yes working as normal yeah nice to see it um let's get simon up on stage if we can and while
we're doing that welcome everybody to another zebek ecosystem spaces great to have you all here
sorry about last week i know we got uh in a bit of a pickle and we had a technical issue with our
friends at cotope we are re-recording that one so uh bear with us while we do it hey simon how are you sir ben good good to be back
so soon and great to be here with some of our newest partners in the zebek network i love that
um i'm just letting people know that we are back we've got 30 minutes here to catch up with four
of our great partners from within the ecosystem um people if you could be so kind, hit the little button in the bottom
right-hand corner of your mobile device and give the space a like and a repost and maybe even drop
us a comment and I'll have a look at those a bit later on. I really appreciate you all being here.
Simon, I guess before we really get cracking today, I wondered if it was possible to maybe
talk a little bit on the progress
that we're making obviously zebek and the zebek ecosystem is now starting to grow into something
really powerful and obviously you know you've asked me to come up today and help spotlight
some of the partners who are helping zebek push the limits of what possible what's possible in
decentralized finance with you know when it comes to infrastructure and communication, all those different things.
Maybe, you know, just a quick progress update.
Recent launches, updates, ecosystem milestones.
Well, as our community knows, it's been a very exciting and action packed here at Zbeck Network.
We now support 16 different blockchains, soon to be 17 with the integration of Boba Network, which we're
going to learn more about on today's Spaces.
And within the past quarter alone, we've added four new chains as support by Zbeck.
And this really speaks to the scalability of our technology.
For other platforms to add new blockchains, it can take months.
Zbeck has always been a multi-chain solution from the start.
And our tech architecture really speaks to these ambitions. blockchains, it can take months. Zabac has always been a multi-chain solution from the start.
And our tech architecture really speaks to these ambitions. And you can now see it with the level of partners that we are bringing on on a weekly basis.
Absolutely. And I think that is absolutely, that's really, really clear. And maybe kind of,
I guess, led to the discussion that we were going to have today. I wonder if you wanted to just give a little bit of context about that before we can then bring our guests up
and I can introduce them and we can learn a bit more about what they're doing.
Well, today's space is not just about Zbeck.
We're here to highlight four of our newest partners, each of which has their own blockchain that is now fully integrated in Zbeck Network.
Our thread today will be about decentralization, not just being a buzzword.
We're going to talk about how it's shaping real-world products that are faster, cheaper, and more accessible.
I'm really excited to be joined today by our guests and to hear about what they're building
and, of course, why they chose to work with us here at Zbeck.
Awesome. Love that.
Okay, so we have the team from Zano.
We have Danny from XDB Chain.
We have Tarek up from Okta.
And we also have Chirnagiv.
And I apologize if I mispronounced that.
And maybe if we can just take all four of you
and learn a little bit more about what you're up to, announce that. And maybe if we can just take all four of you and
learn a little bit more about what you're
up to, what you're building, and like
Simon says, it'd be great to understand more about
that,
the reason why you chose to partner with the team
at Zebek.
I'll ask Zanno to go
first, because they're who I can see first.
Hey, guys. Yeah.
Thank you so much for inviting me on the stage.
I'm Quinten, the head of marketing and growth at the Xano project to give you guys a quick
rundown about what Xano is.
Xano is a privacy by default layer one blockchain.
So it doesn't only support Xano.
You actually can create your own assets, your own tokens on top of Zano and the tokens are as private as Zano itself.
So you don't see amounts, you don't see addresses involved, you don't even see the asset types transacted because financial privacy is super, super important, of course, especially in today's world. um and yeah we recently got integrated on the back because uh we always have a strong focus
on making xano uh as usable as possible and of course the holy grail for crypto would be
direct uh support like direct acceptance by merchants and e-commerce uh for cryptocurrencies
however crypto adoption is still uh not at stage, of course. I mean,
the reality is that people still use Visa and MasterCard basically anywhere. So for us, it
made sense to partner with Zabek because it's basically a very good alternative for Zano to
become spendable and usable via Zebeck's cart.
Yeah, absolutely love that.
And thank you for being so succinct there.
That's awesome.
I'll take the other three through that as well.
I'm reliably informed.
The best thing to call you is CJ from Boba.
Would love to hear a bit more about what you guys are doing also and the work that you're
doing with Zebeck.
Sure.
Thank you. Pleasure to be here.
My name is CJ. I'm part of the BD team here at Boba. Just to give you a quick overview, Boba
Network is a layer two on Ethereum. We've been in this space for just about four years and we've
had a very strong focus on being a blockchain that's very reliable when it comes to being super fast, super cheap, very effective in terms of onboarding developers.
And just bringing a very strong focus to the ecosystem of allowing really creative dApps to exist on the blockchain.
We have our own native tech as well called Hybrid Compute that makes this super simple for developers to play with Web2 applications and sort of bring them back on chain.
I'm very excited to be partnering up with the Zbeg Network guys simply because we really wanted to put full focus on our token and give more utility to our community and users through the Boba token. One of the ways that you can do that is of course
through having very strong e-commerce and payment solutions and we're very excited to see how we can
basically take this to market. Yeah that's a little bit about me and Boba and I'll pass it on to the
other speakers. Thank you. Love that, thank you. I really really appreciate that. I love how
we're already getting into the value that's added by being able to give people real utility with their token.
I think that's awesome. Thank you so much for sharing that with me, CJ.
Danny, Danielle from XDB, how are you doing?
Talk to me a bit about what's going on at your end and the partnership with Zebek.
Thank you. Thank you, thank you very much.
Quick intro about us and straight to the Zebek partnership which is I think what is really
relevant to talk about today. My name is Daniele Mansi, I'm Italian, I'm the founder of XDB Chain. XDB Chain, simply speaking, is a layer one,
which is building all the touch points to enable brands
and, in general, B2B organization to unramp to the Web3.
It's easy to say it's very difficult to do
because there are a lot of details in how things are being done,
compliance, technical stuff, and so on and so forth.
But in essence, being a layer one requires a lot of flexibility to adapt to the real world.
dApps like security infrastructures, like marketing packages to enable normal business
to enter to the Web3 because we don't want them to involve in the Web3 by being kind
of a Bitcoin treasury company.
That's a passive involvement in the Web3.
We want them to be actively engaged to build on the Web3. We want them to be actively engaged to build on the Web3. And we would like XDB Chain to be the
layer one of choice. Over the last weeks, we have been involved very much to build a layer two on
top of our layer one, being EVM compatible, because XDB Chain is not an EVM blockchain,
it's a fork of seller. And we have been inspired by this, with this hybrid approach,
by a very confidential project with a major organization,
which has not been publicly disclosed,
where we have been building a kind of a private blockchain for them
with the goal to become a public blockchain,
because they didn't want to start a project in a public fashion.
And we have been inspired by this approach by building this layer two, EVM compatible,
on top of our layer one.
And so it's so exciting right now to really bring all this enhancement from the Web2 or
from the, I would say, the B2B world, the LinkedIn world, as I call it, to the real
the LinkedIn world, as I call it, to the real world, which is for us the Web3.
world, which is for us, the Web3.
And I'm very much excited about this partnership because, you know,
since the first talks with Saibon, we feel very engaged with the vision of ZBEC
to grow further and to expand by starting from real world application
and real world use cases.
We've been impressed since the beginning because we were scouting in the Solana ecosystem
which projects has real-world value.
And among our research, we've seen Zebek being, to me,
on the top of the spot.
And being inspired by this vision, getting to the details,
and now really progressing and advancing this partnership,
starting from the off-ramp that we already launched with Zebek and working with other
cool stuff because we feel very much in sync all together so thank you very much
for hosting us and our community at XDB Chain. Love that, thank you so much, it's a
great introduction and really really interesting and great and good luck too
with the L2 work, it sounds fascinating and I'm certain it will be a great success for you guys.
Tarek from Okta.
How's it going, Tarek?
Hey, Tarek.
I can't hear you, Tarek.
Sorry, dude.
Are you able to mute and come off mute again, see if that works?
Are you able to mute and come off mute again, see if that works?
Ah, okay. The best thing probably to do is to drop down as a speaker, maybe close the app and open it again and come up,
and we can introduce you in a few moments. But yeah, if you perhaps drop down and come back on, then that might help things.
Okay, well, look, I'm going to move us on um really really exciting um great to have four you know
incredible projects up on stage talking with us i don't want to waste that opportunity and i feel
like i want to kind of get into the source a little bit more and uh and ask some kind of
leading questions a little bit about what you guys are building and how it's going to you know really
change things moving forward.
So my next question for each of you,
and I'm happy for you to answer in the same order is,
and is Tarek going to be able to talk first though?
Ah, Tarek, I can't hear you. Is that just me?
I can't, unfortunately. So maybe check your microphone,
restart the app,
but Ben, in the interest of time, let's move to the next section.
Absolutely.
So question, and I'll go with Zano, CJ, and then Daniela.
How will your technology shape how people earn, spend,
and interact with money in the next three years?
I'd love to get the the points from all
three of you so zano go first well that would be the very strong privacy features of zano
in combination with the versatility that our blockchain has to offer right
so i think it's privacy is a topic that uh not i think it's like undervalued to be honest in the in the crypto space um you
know people are scared that privacy projects um don't get the attention uh the attention they
deserve because of regulations and uh you know governments don't like them and delistings and
and so forth but if we look at, you know, from a user perspective,
what is necessary for mass adoption for crypto to happen,
then that missing piece is absolutely privacy.
Because imagine if you're using any blockchain for payments directly,
and then you do a payment and the cashier can immediately see your balance,
your transaction history, what tokens you have.
That's a huge security risk, right?
So, yeah, and with Xano, none of that happens.
With Xano, you're completely shielded whilst still having all kinds of programmability features and the versatility that some of the other transparent blockchains offer. So on Zano, you can build all kinds of dApps and confidential assets.
And also Freedom Dollar, I just want to put that out there, which is a privacy stablecoin
built on Zano, is also soon coming to Zabek. So that will be... That'll be our very first token
within your ecosystem that's coming.
And it's very fitting to be working with a stablecoin
because in our eyes at Zabek,
one of the really interesting aspects
of working with a blockchain like Zeno
is that on the payroll side,
there are obviously questions around
what data can be seen on chain
regarding an employee's payroll.
And we definitely have heard from some organizations
that would prefer to work with private chains.
So we are past the card stage now exploring a payroll build
on the blockchain of Zeno,
which would be really interesting for certain verticals.
Absolutely.
It should be incredibly useful for any Zabbat card user because instead of now you
for example you top it up with usdt or usdc because you know stable coins are still used
most today for payments in crypto but you know you put yourself at risk you know people can
actually track all your transactions and it even gets worse tether can actually blacklist or freeze certain wallets
and your funds um which is horrible it's not much better than a cbdc actually it's just programmable
money and with xano and the freedom dollar built on top of xano it's actually completely censorship
resistant you can't even see wallet addresses in the mountains let alone freeze them um it's the
the reserves are provable and the asset is over collateralized and it's entirely private
by default. So it has, you know,
Monero level privacy, but with the
stability of any other
stablecoin that you're used to.
Fantastic. Ben,
I think Tarek is back on. Let's
see if his mic is working.
Hey, Tarek.
Can you guys hear me now?
Yes, we can.
Welcome.
Okay, let's rattle through because I don't want to...
So why don't you very quickly introduce
yourself and Okta
and what's going on at that end?
I'll do a quick crash course.
Thank you for inviting me to this.
Again, apologies for the technical issues.
So yeah, for those who don't know, Optispace is a decentralized compute provider.
So with specific onus that people provide idle compute resources across the world to our platform.
We've built an extensive set of technology and services which are currently generated revenue.
We have over 11,000 registered users on our platform at the moment.
And a lot of that is focused on providing
decentralized compute, so from AI to even remote gaming.
We also have our own rendering platform,
which is being used by artists and visual effects studios.
There's around 3.5 million frames rendered in total.
Last time I looked for just our rendering platform,
and that's just one of our products.
But as I said, we've launched some of the most revolutionary tech
in the market.
As far as I know, there's currently no one like us
in either Web 2 or Web 3 that does everything we do in one place.
We partnered with Zabek as well, which is really, really great.
We kind of looked into opportunities of how to increase the utility of Opta
since Opta is obviously the primary payment instrument in our environment.
And we thought, OK, Zbeck is amazing.
We loved what you guys were doing.
And obviously, we now add an additional layer of of utility to Optta where users can spend as well as earn Okta as well.
So for those who provide idle compute resources.
So I hope that kind of does that cover it?
That was great, Tarek, honestly.
Yeah, absolutely. Great, great run, Trey.
Thanks for being so succinct. If you want, you can
actually scroll, like move on to the next question immediately and then I'll move on
to the other guys while we've got you.
I didn't hear the next question.
Let me tell it to you. So how will your technology shape how people earn, spend and interact
with money in the next three years?
Oh, great question um well obviously
inter in relation to well as i mentioned what with the services that we provide are focused on ai
um and various other you know areas so we even have vpn rendering and so on
uh and obviously i think we've been building something so unique in the way to attract users to use.
And we've been, I'm going to be direct encroaching a lot on Web 2 and Web 3,
certain Web 3 competitors and taking a big market share.
I think it's important to note, you know, realistically,
Web 3 has struggled in certain aspects of adoption from payments.
And I think now that people are providing real, real services, especially, for example, in the case of Okta,
they are more focused and willing to explore opportunities where they can spend money in Web3.
And, you know, it's something we, I think, over many years, we've worked to kind of really breach that barrier because, you know, obviously everyone looked at Web3 initially as just
an investment area.
Now, and this is the case with, you know, with what Zbeka are doing as well, right?
Because you guys are bridging that gap as well.
And, you know, I know you, you know, I'm looking at the payroll stuff that you guys are doing as well.
That's really, really cool.
And we love what you guys are doing there.
And it's the same with us, right?
We've built something that people really will use,
not just users, but also businesses, et cetera.
So I think in the next kind of web, in the next three years,
I mean, we've seen growth in the last two years.
And I can't imagine what the growth is going to be like in the next three years. It mean, we've seen growth in the last two years. And I think I can't imagine what the growth
is going to be like in the next three years.
It's going to be amazing.
Exactly.
And here on the Zbeck side,
I would echo those sentiments and say
that Zbeck has been typically a user of the Amazon cloud
for a lot of our computing
and particularly the engines behind our Zbeck AI layer.
And now we've started to use the Octospace platform.
And so far, the feedback has been incredible. And we actually plan to use the Octospace platform, and so far the feedback has been incredible,
and we actually plan to move over more of the computing from Amazon Web to Octospace in the coming months.
Love that. Great stuff. Great to see the partnership going even deeper.
Okay, I'm going to ask the same question then to CJ.
How will your technology shape how people earn, spend, and interact with money in the next three years?
Yeah, I'll keep it short just with the essence of time.
But I think after a certain point, all of these technologies are pretty similar, right?
Bearing some differences here and there.
some differences here and there.
But it's all about, for us in particular,
the partnerships you forge
and the type of service providers
and distributors you work with.
So having more partnerships like Zbeck Network
will allow us to have a much wider merchant ecosystem,
therefore allowing payments
to be much more easily facilitated.
We also have some upcoming partnerships
with some other dApps that I've just deployed with
us who have APIs with Amazon and other marketplaces in which the Boba token can easily be used to
purchase anything through these marketplaces. And having Zbeck with us now as well, we would love
to see how we can make you guys collaborate with these partnerships and anyone who has like a ZBEC card, TopTabes and Boba.
Here are the different marketplaces and here are the different online platforms.
You can go and use that and procure some services and products.
So I think it's going to be a combination of having the right ecosystem, having the right partnerships and just forging those right relationships to make sure that you're putting yourself in a position where your token,
where your blockchain technology is really providing as much value as possible when it comes towards the payment sector.
Yeah, so I think we're truly excited to see where this goes.
And we'd love to also see how we can get more involved with you and tap into those other verticals within the payment distribution space.
Love that. Thank you so much. Really appreciate you being succinct with that, too.
Daniel, how's it going, dude?
Yeah, well, good.
Same question to you. Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to remember.
I'm trying to remember.
So, yeah, I think it's all about deploying new use cases, obviously,
which provide real-world benefit to the end users
with a seamless user experience or seamless UX.
This is all about, in essence, what we're doing
and what we are going to do over the next years.
And we have been very much inspired by football
clubs football clubs you know manchester united i don't know which football clubs you guys are
supporting but football clubs have a amazing audience you know they are worldwide known
by anyone possibly but when it comes down to expand the footprints of their business model,
which is mostly about football and TV rights,
and also in minor part merchandising,
they're very struggling to advance to become more tech fashion business
because they have a potential, they have huge communities.
So being a layer one, as we are, has been inspired by this because our community are
the fans of the Manchester United.
And our community are the heroes and the champion of our technology.
But the average consumer doesn't have the understanding on how these things work.
And we don't plan to spend a trillion or quadrillions
joking in marketing to explain to the average consumer why our blockchain is better of all
the other thousands in the place so it's reversing this model bringing real-world benefit with very
usable use case seamlessly implemented.
And this is Zebek instrumental in our journey because what we have been building with them
within the Zebek card program
has been one of the first milestones into this journey.
So it's all about providing a seamless user experience
to enable a very new, exciting use case.
Love that. Thank you.
And I appreciate all four of those answers they're
really uh really interesting um i have another question which i can hit you all with now and
it doesn't require a massive amount of thought i don't think and and also uh can be quite quickly
answered so i am going to ask it before i then ask how people can get in touch and get involved
with what you're building so if you could partner with any other sector, gaming, AI, social,
which one do you think would create the most impact for your business and why?
Zano, go first, and then we'll go through in the same order.
Yeah, for us, it's an easy answer.
It would be infrastructure, right?
Like Zabek is also infrastructure because we want zano to become very very usable and
broadly available anywhere uh because we want private payments for everyone and anywhere
um so yeah infrastructure would definitely be our answer um and if you want to come build with us
everyone's welcome you can build on zano you can actually release your own asset on top of Zano as well that is private.
So also, all the projects here, if you want a wrapped
asset, a wrapped version of your existing asset on Zano,
that is possible.
There's also bridges available for it.
So yeah.
Tarek, how about you?
Who would you partner with in terms of another sector? Gaming, AI, social infrastructure? Yeah, go for it.
Well, obviously, I mentioned in our space, we're providing idle compute power, which can run various kind of jobs. So obviously, AI and machine learning is pretty much the biggest, most impactful area.
I think that would really be kind of boost there, I think,
providing affordable computation, right?
At the moment, I think I don't want to go into the depths of how centralized providers currently run massive controls
and restrictions and things like that that can be run.
But we, in a truly decentralized world, opening up to AI
is one of the biggest and key areas that, you know,
idle compute power can contribute.
And obviously, you know, we're looking at things like currently,
for example, integration with Zbeck AI.
And Zbeck is also going to be looking at using Octaspate
compute power as one of the engines that's growing, you know, for the Zbeck is also going to be looking at using Oxus-based compute power as one of the engines that's growing for the Zbeck product layer.
So that's kind of, I think, the biggest key area.
And it's one of the key focuses of us is growing that AI sector.
Yeah, absolutely. Huge, huge opportunity for growth.
And yeah, completely understand. CJ, huge opportunity for growth and completely understand.
CJ, how about yourself?
Yeah, we're pretty agnostic when it comes towards which sector or vertical we want to lean in.
All those, whether it's AI, whether it's gaming, whether it's infra, we have a pretty strong hand in all of them.
And we have a pretty strong hand in all of them.
The fact that we are L2 allows us to obviously be much more scalable, fast, cheaper, and just more accessible.
But beyond that, I think we have our own native tech called Hybrid Compute.
And this is where we really try to position ourselves as the bridge between Web2 and Web3
and allow all of your conventional web 2 applications and web
2 data to migrate more easily on the chain and so that's pretty useful for gen ai daps it's pretty
useful for gaming as well because most of the gaming computation is off chain and and just
parts of it is put on chain so if you can sort of merge that more seamlessly it makes life a whole lot easier. So, yeah, we definitely like to consider ourselves the people's chain
and the people's layer too.
We've always positioned ourselves like that.
So whatever the people want, whatever the developers need,
we're always innovating.
We're always sort of transforming ourselves
and giving more utility to whatever our ecosystem's desires are.
Absolutely love that. Great answer.
Daniela, if I could ask you to do the same thing, please.
Yeah, so we built a gaming kind of application on our chain directly,
and of course we want to expand, but if I have to choose,
and we're kind of playing here with words,
I would definitely go into the AI section because right now AI
is very focused on infrastructure.
So to me, AI and infrastructure at the moment are more or less the same because from a product
perspective, yeah, I mean, LLM, LRM, so we are in the growing phase of this, but definitely Web3 is perfectly designed
to complete with AI in preparation of the massive shift of the entire economy and the entire labor
market that would definitely change the entire game plan of the world so um yeah i would go ai as a main focus first
love that yeah absolutely um well look we are very very close to being over um so the way i'm
going to wrap it is literally by telling people um that if they want to get in touch with any of
these guys or they are interested that they should absolutely make sure they're following all the speakers up on stage and that they interact with all of their projects.
Simon, I wonder if you could maybe just leave us with some final words before we close.
Well, as I said at the very beginning, you know, Zbeck stands out from the crowd,
from our ability to support so many diverse blockchains. We now support, with the integration of Boba Network,
17 different blockchains across our card suite.
We are adding new chains on the payroll side as well,
and maybe a few of these will come there in the near future as well.
So for us, the future is multi-chain.
We're committed to that, and we're proud to have such great partners with Zeno, with Octospace, with XDB, and of course with Boba.
And please look out for
future collaboration and future announcement between us and all of these great projects.
Love that. Thanks, Simon. Really appreciate you setting this one up. We should definitely get
these guys back and go a little bit more in depth with each of them because I feel like there's a
lot that they could bring to the table. Thank you to all of our speakers. Really appreciate that,
Simon. As ever, appreciate you taking the time to come up and co-host with me jj wrap it up my friend i hope
all's good at your end awesome no fire uh spaces thanks everybody for joining all of our partners
ben for hosting of course and simon for your time um again uh you know uh just keep on the lookout
for new announcements and uh we'll catch you on the next space as we got a few planned that you guys will be excited for. So see you guys on the next
one, guys. Peace.
