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ZetaChain 2.0: Universal Layer for AI
Recorded: Jan. 28, 2026 Duration: 0:32:21Space Recording
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Zeta Chain is launching a universal blockchain aimed at simplifying user interactions across multiple networks, enhancing the integration of AI in Web3. The conversation highlights the growing trend of AI's role in crypto, the importance of user experience for mass adoption, and the strategic advancements of Zeta Chain 2.0, which promises to bridge blockchain and AI functionalities.
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Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music I'm going to go to the next video. The Oh I'm going to go to the next video. Hello, everyone. Thank you. hey hey hey everyone and welcome welcome welcome thanks for joining today's gate ama session and
it's always great to have you all here as always. And I hope I'm
loud and clear to each and everyone listening right now. Today's hot topic. So, you know,
just to remind you guys, it's a very hot topic. So today we're talking about something that sits
right in the very middle of AI, Web3 and the future of blockchain. As you know, everyone
know AI is growing constantly and
more people start using crypto and on-chain apps on a daily basis. And one big question
is always coming up, right? So how do we make Web3 more simple and easier for everyday users like
us? So currently, Web3 is still very, very complicated for most of the users. So people
have to switch networks, use bridges, manage different wallets and deal with different tokens just to do basic stuff, right?
So that's why today's session is about Zeta Chain.
Zeta Chain is building what they call a universal blockchain.
So the idea is pretty much simple.
Build once and launch everywhere.
So this means users and developers can interact across Bitcoin,
Ethereum, Solana and many many more without switching networks or using any type of bridges.
So instead of thinking about which chain you're on, you just use the app and the system handles
the rest in its background. So today we're touching three different topics regarding
Zeta Chain. So why the universal blockchain idea matters,
why better cross-chain user experience is important for real people, and of course how AI and smart
agents could change how we use Web3 today. So before we jump into the core conversation and
discussion, let's just quickly say hi to our guests. So let's start with Zeta Chain team.
hey zeta chain how you doing doing well good morning uh thank you pleasure to connect jonathan
uh could you briefly introduce yourself your role at zeta chain and of course share just one sentence
on what that zeta chain means to you yes sir yeah this is Jonathan Covey here, core contributor at Zeta Chain. Thanks everyone for tuning in. So I started the community for Zeta Chain four years ago, and I focus on all things marketing and ecosystem growth. Zeta Chain to me means the universal layer for AI and Web3, and we'll get into it more. Very excited.
Perfect. Sounds great. Sounds great. We're eager to start this conversation, to be honest.
So now let's bring in our KOL. Hey, Loco, how are you doing, sir?
Hey guys. Hey, hello to everyone. Nice to be here. Nice to be with Danzo, with the great Gate and the Zeta Chain team.
To all the listeners, I hope you're all excited because we're going to deep dive into a very great project in the market right now.
And all of you should be hyped because it's going to be a very interesting topic to discuss.
Perfect, perfect. Sounds great, sounds great.
So let's jump into the core discussion
and prepare some great questions for Jonathan here.
So first question is, as we all know right now,
one of the very hot topics is,
everyone's talking about AI, of course, Web3, of course, new you know, as we all know right now, one of the very hot topics is, you know,
everyone's talking about AI, of course, Web3, of course, new blockchain ideas, right? So from your personal point of view, why is a universal blockchain the right direction right now? And
what problem does it solve that today's blockchain still haven't fully fixed?
Sure. So there are tons of blockchains in the market now. You saw this in really the last cycle, like all these new L1s popping up, ZK technology, improvements in speed, all of these diverse properties and new development languages and stuff.
This is great because there's a lot of innovation and options in the market for devs and users,
but it makes interoperating across all of them and accessing all of the users really difficult.
So the original thesis of Zeta Chain was to solve this fragmentation problem.
And so we built what we call universal blockchain.
The idea is that users and apps shouldn't care about what chain they're on,
like how the modern internet works.
And so the universal blockchain solves three big problems. Interoperability and how
tokens move across different chains without bridging or wrapping tokens. Unified liquidity,
so if you build an app you out of the box have access to liquidity on all of the major chains that Zeta Chain supports,
and then composability across all of these chains.
So having a DEX that natively moves Bitcoin from Bitcoin network to ETH on Ethereum in a simple transaction
and doing any sort of complex logic across different chains.
So the original value prop was being an abstraction layer for crypto.
And we've been building an ecosystem of different use cases for apps around that over the years.
cases for apps around that over the years. And then it turns out everybody's talking about AI
and agents doing stuff for you. And they're increasingly interacting with crypto and
settling payments on chain. So Zeta Chain is positioned to capture a lot of the AI activity and we're building all sorts of new infrastructure to support AI agents and interacting with models as well.
great you know to be to be precise here i'm extra bullish for this one you know my next question is
you know is about uh you know for daily users for people that are actually uh you know using crypto
and using web3 on daily basis you know they have to switch networks they have to use bridges they
have to manage multiple and various of wallets and it's quite confusing right so most of the people
just don't want to enter crypto just because of this issue this it's quite confusing right so most of the people just don't
want to enter crypto just because of this issue this is the main issue here so do you think
removing those steps is a like very necessary for mass adoption and what real user problem
was that the chain built to solve in the first place yeah uh i think like the UX of things everybody talks about, this is definitely a key component to growing adoption in the space.
And it's just simply difficult to get, you know, family and friends to get a MetaMask wallet.
get a MetaMask wallet.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
A lot of chains require you to download
entirely new wallets
and stuff.
Very similar to
fragmentation of blockchain.
There are also all of these different
wallets and token
versions. It's complicated.
But I think we've come a long
way solving different disparate
bridges and chain switching and stuff. There are different approaches. So we solve this
with the concept of a universal app. So you build one app and smart contract that lives on Zeta chain, EVM.
It's just like building on Ethereum.
And that app can natively be accessed from users on Solana and their phantom wallet, EVM wallets on Ethereum and the L2s, even like Unisad and different popular Bitcoin wallets on the Bitcoin network.
So we're meeting users where they are.
And as a developer, you don't have to figure out all the unique requirements of something like Cosmos Chain or Build and Rust and all of these different languages move on Sui. So yeah, a universal app you build once,
you deploy everywhere, and we're extending that same functionality to AI models.
to AI models.
So yeah, the goal is for crypto to feel like a single app
experience, and then the data chain
handles the complex machinery and cross-chain stuff
under the hood.
But yeah, bridging and switching networks,
I think we've collectively solved that in the space.
And things are feeling more like modern consumer
software, although there's still a lot of work to be done. That actually makes a lot of sense and
that would actually fix a lot of problems that we have in web3 for people that don't want to enter
in, that people that don't want to, you know, figure out what wallet does what, which chain does what.
So that's very bullish, to be honest.
And I'm looking forward to it a lot.
And my next question is,
if someone has never used DeFi before,
before trying Zeta Chain for the first time,
what do you think would feel most different
compared to using other Web3 apps today?
Yeah, the biggest difference is fewer steps because Zeta Chain can act on other blockchains
and you can initiate like a swap or deposit stables on Ethereum into a vault on base or Solana all in one step.
So like fewer steps, fewer switch to this chain interruptions for all of these use cases.
I mentioned a cross-chain dex example before,
but stake on chain A, withdraw into chain B, swap for this token into stables,
then send back to my wallet on Zeta chain, like all of these automations become possible.
And that's why, again, I'm excited about all the AI agent stuff because blockchain is effectively like the global
settlement layer and rails for all of this AI work to be paid out. And AI needs interoperability
as well. If you look at open AI and Google's models and private and open source models,
open ai and google's models and private and open source models there's a fragmentation of
information and access there as well so yeah those are my thoughts yeah thank you very much
for it for your answer and i totally agree here uh talking about the ai stuff To be brutally honest here, you know, AI is taking over Web3 as a whole, right?
So before it was only Web2 and like Web2 stuff only, right? So now for Web3, it plays a major,
major role. And just talking about the AI here for a moment. So, you know, I absolutely, I totally
agree. AI is changing everything in tech right now. and mostly in web3 so you know and you
you mentioned AI agents as well so Zeta Chain you know has talked about supporting AI agents that
can work across many many blockchains that's correct right so from a normal user's point of
view and perspective what's the new things would make this possible think is going to make this possible? Yeah, and I'll harp on your point about AI agents overshadowing
crypto. I mean, ultimately, these two things converge, and
they're really complimentary. But like I was just reading a
Delphi Digital short blog post yesterday. And look, the fact,
blog post yesterday. And look, the fact, like a big part of crypto is the casino and gambling
and speculative asset. And what the blog post says is that for a while, crypto was like
one of the only games in town where anyone in the world with an internet connection could speculate on meme coins and stuff.
But what we've seen with the tech stocks and everything fixated around AI is that that's pulled some of the liquidity away.
But yeah, in the grand scheme of things, I think digital assets are super important, Bitcoin for sure, and all of this stuff will
converge with blockchain.
And sorry, your question one more time.
So the question was, for normal users, right? From normal users' point of view, what do you think would make this possible?
Like the whole idea about AI agents that can work across many blockchains.
Yeah.
So yesterday we made a big announcement, Zeta Chain 2.0. And essentially, what we've built, the universal blockchain, we're extending that
to AI models. And so the idea is that as a developer, you build apps and agents, and not
only should they interoperate with Solana and Ethereum and Bitcoin and all the Web3 ecosystems, but also execute across the AI models
and providers. And we're also focused on a memory aspect and keeping things private and portable.
and portable so all of the context that you build your preferences your conversation history
with ai we're we're building a new layer where all of that is in one place and it's private
the big models can't see it and train off of your data So this opens up a whole new realm for Zeta Chain to let users
interact with all the AI stuff out there. Understood, guys. This is extra bullish
personally for me. I really love what you guys are doing. And you also mentioned the Bitcoin.
And as we all know, Bitcoin is the hottest topic, you know, 24-7 every day.
So there's a lot of talk about Bitcoin's future at the moment in the community.
And, you know, just a personal question from my end to you guys and to you, Jonathan.
So do you see Bitcoin actually staying mostly as a digital gold or becoming something people actually use in web3
apps and if bitcoin-based defy really grows what role do you see zeta chain playing in that world
yeah i think that's a huge question and i see it more as digital gold
although it's lagging behind the actual gold and the precious metals. Yeah, Bitcoin,
I don't think was ever meant to be a currency that you buy your groceries with and stuff. So
I think it will remain more of a custody asset and people in the US here allocating to it in their IRA, like their retirement accounts.
There is a huge opportunity. This is still our thesis that you can use Bitcoin as productive collateral in DeFi and AI agents will work with Bitcoin and do stuff like lending and borrowing.
And Zeta Chain makes all of that possible.
You build an app in DeFi and it can natively accept Bitcoin and do things like lending and borrowing.
Because the beauty of Bitcoin is you can just send, receive and buy it.
It's simple proof of work.
But the reality still is like 99% of Bitcoin in DeFi is wrapped Bitcoin.
is wrapped Bitcoin.
So the apps on Zeta Chain are exploring this
and you can swap native Bitcoin for ETH on Ethereum
and other DeFi assets without using
like a centralized solution.
But I think at the end of the day,
Bitcoin is kind of like digital gold.
Got it. Got it. Thanks for your reply. That's a great one.
And you also mentioned about the Zeta Chain 2.0.
Of course, we did our own research, we're a gate.
So just want to, and I know you already mentioned the Zeta Chain 2.0 and you spoke about it a little bit, but I just want to dive a little bit deeper into the topic.
So what's the key idea behind Zeta Chain 2.0 and why does it actually matter now?
Yeah, very simply, we are extending interoperability from blockchains to AI models.
So whether you build a DAP or just like a normal app, all of this stuff is integrated.
So you get access to all the major AI models and can execute inferences across them and then interact and settle and like have built-in
monetization tools across all the blockchains that we integrate. And then there's a memory layer.
So all of your interactions with all the AIs, you have one memory that you own,
just like Bitcoin in your wallet,
Zeta Chain secures your AI context,
everything about you privately, and you own that.
So this is pretty huge
because everybody's spending their time on AI. It's like the primary interface for
work. And we're giving all of our data away to these siloed platforms and they're profiting off
you. And so this is very in line with the original thesis of Web3 and blockchain, which is that you own your own data.
And we're doing that for all your AI context as well.
That's a great answer actually.
Guys, you heard everything from the man himself, Jonathan, you know,
this is amazing and you know, we, we, we all wish you all the greatest with
Zeta Chain 2.0 and we're all looking
forward to this one and thank you very much jonathan just let's just just please stay in here
we haven't done yet and right now we are transferring to our kol to mr loco look how
you doing sir are you still you still here are you bullish I'm extra bullish, Danza. This is so fire space
and Jonathan is just
flaming the stage,
you know. It's amazing to hear about
this amazing project,
amazing team that's working
on it. I'm extra
excited. Perfect.
That sounds great. That's what I love to hear, actually.
Loko, question to you.
When you first heard about Zeta Chain,
and what was the one thing that made you want to learn more?
You know, Dezo, like, what hooked me about Zeta Chain,
it's very simple.
Like, it's not another bitch.
Because Zeta Chain, like, smart contracts interact with native assets across
the chains like even Bitcoin which is wrapping and that's rare in the market most projects
just move tokens but Zeta chains actually move the logic of this when I saw that I like
I knew this was a real infrastructure not just a narrative that everyone talks about
but this is a real movement in the whole space.
Absolutely I was actually doing my own the the whole space absolutely i was actually
doing my own research that the other day and i was amazed that such product actually exists
and this is actually extra bullish to me guys and everyone should hop in and learn more and you know
do their own research as well on this one so that the chain long lives zeta chain absolutely and uh
so you know another question from my end to you loco is uh
you know there are many web 3 projects today as a whole as you know as you of course you're
you're aware but very few are used to everyday people you know so because we know you you just
always jump from one app to another app to another app to another app you know and it goes so on so
on so on so you know in your view what know, in your view, what's the biggest reason? What is the biggest reason adoption has been so slow?
Why is that happening?
Man, too much friction is going on in the market.
Like users don't want to think about chains, bridges or gas tokens.
They just want to like swipe their tokens or send to someone.
But like one action today feels like five steps.
But Web3 needs to feel like Web2. I mean, it sounds funny uh but web 3 needs to feel like web 2. i
mean it sounds funny but like it needs to be fast invincible and secure until infrastructure
disappears in the background like mass adoption won't happen because it's a lot of too much uh
actions need to be done just to move uh tokens from your wallet to another wallet but zeta
change like solve this problem
that's why this is a bullish project in the market absolutely that makes it feel much smoother much
easier no more head pain in the head and everything is smooth so yeah absolutely 100 totally agree
with you here sir and uh of course another question from my end is, you know, looking at AI, Bitcoin and cross-chain tech.
So which one do you think will be used by a lot of people first?
I mean, you guys spoke about AI and Bitcoin.
You covered most of it.
Jonathan, like, gave amazing speech about Bitcoin, which I really liked it.
But, you know, AI wins fast because it's really easy to the user.
And Bitcoin is a win in the long term,
but the cross chain wins quite then.
That's the biggest one.
It's, you know, nobody feels it how powerful it is.
But when users stop asking like, what chain is on?
Do you use this chain?
Can I send to this chain?
And everything just works.
Like when you just send it and that's all, that's all, that's all has to be done.
That's when the cross chain in Frakturashar has one, like when there's no more extra
steps, no more asking like which chain, which chain and et cetera.
Perfect.
Yeah, absolutely.
The Zeta chain actually provides all those stuff for you guys to make it more easier and smooth, of course, as I mentioned previously. And this last question from my end, that's my personal one. You know, from your personal standpoint, so what is the biggest reason to pay attention to Zeta Chain right now? Why it's hot?
I mean, you guys need to, like, you have to pay attention to ZetaChange because the biggest
reason to pay attention to ZetaChange right now is timing.
Like, we're entering the phase where builders, like, care less about the isolated ecosystem
and when the DeFi apps, like, go wild and more about compatibility than across the change,
basically.
Like, application once used from
everywhere not just one chain but a strong example in payment like merchants or like anybody care
whether a user pays with bitcoin aferium or another assets when omni chain like zeta chain
that logic can be handled in the background like another example defy strategies that span multiple change yields
on one chain called like you're not a statement like on the stable coins like bitcoin and etc
like zeta chain isn't trying to replace existing blockchains it's trying to act as a coordinator
layer between the between the them like you can you can work with all of the chains like all of
the layers in in the market with just set Chain, which is amazing and mind-blowing. You have to pay attention to Zeta Chain guys, like there's no other way, you know.
It's the future basically in the market. Absolutely, 100% agreed here.
Jonathan and Loco, thank you very much. Jonathan, do you have anything to add here
to our community? I gotta bring you guys on as contributors.
The one thing to add, there's the first app showcase for all of this AI stuff,
the interoperability, unified memory, and privacy, is an app called Anuma, Anuma AI.
and privacy is an app called Anuma, Anuma AI.
There's a new X handle for it,
and you can join the waitlist and earn AI credits,
which will convert to real compute and utility
when the app is publicly launched.
So sign up for the waitlist for Anuma.ai.
Perfect. We'll surely consider that and we'll surely join the waitlist for sure. At least me and Loco for 100%. And more than sure,
our community is also bullish on this one. So guys, thank you very much, Jonathan. Thank you
very much, Loco, for your time, for your precious time.
And it was a great conversation.
It was a great discussion.
And I believe our community and listeners of this AMA session actually learned more about how they can simplify their journey in Web3.
And that's amazing.
So just to close everything up, just to wrap things up.
So thank you, everyone, for joining today's AMA session.
And today's discussion showed why the idea of universal blockchain
is becoming more and more important.
And Zeta Chain is working toward a future
where users don't need to think about chains, bridges, or networks at all.
All in one app, you just use the app, everything else happens in the background.
Those guys are biggest
professionals, those guys can change the world, can reshape and change the way we think about
Web3. It's no more complications, it's no more pain in the ass, everything is just perfectly
legit and perfectly easy for any type of user to join in and begin their journey. That kind of simple experience is what
Web3 actually needs and that's what people actually need on their everyday use of Web3.
So if you'd like to learn more about Zeta Chain, make sure to check out their official channels
and ecosystem projects of course. And thanks again for tuning in, and we'll see you guys on the next one on Gatespace.
And it's been your host, Dan.
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