You guys give me a sign if you can hear me because I have some special travel set up here If you can hear me give me thumbs up if you can't hear me
You probably can give me a thumbs up right so I will see that right away
Just let me know if you can hear me guys, please please give me a thumbs up right so I will see that right away just let me know if
you can hear me guys please please give me some sign or comment it doesn't look great that oh you
can hear me that's awesome and now guys I'll play the music that's another question because my setup
I've been traveling this is crazy but we'll try let me know if you can hear the music. Let me begin. I'm gonna push the ceiling, once it's a punk song. Someone's fucking junk, yo, I bust them in the app. And then I'll take the punk song.
Feeling funky, amps in the trunk, and I got more rhymes.
And there's cops that are dunking, throwing up.
I got pops from the kids on the hill with my mom and my pops.
Jump up. Jump up when you're down. Jump. Jump. around! Jump up, jump up and get down! I'll serve your ass like you're a mackin' while your girl steps up from sagging the heart
Word to your moms, I came to drop bombs I got more rhymes and come get your fill Cause when I shoot the gift, I shoot the kill
I can't make it down, I can't make it down
So get down, just jump around, jump around
I got the skill, come get your fill
Cause when I shoot the gift, I shoot the kill
I can't make it down, I can't make it down
So get down, just can't believe it!
I can't believe this is the last episode of 2025.
Tino, I don't know if you saw, oh, you saw this setup before, man.
I had this setup in Lisbon during ApeFest 2024, which is absolutely nuts.
So let's start the show and let's fucking kill it because I can't wait to wrap it up.
2025 was insane year especially
for other side and um ape coin ape chain and let's get into it guys this is great for show 427 let's
go baby gmgm everybody so hyped to be here i hope you can hear me well because oh my god what's going on
here it's crazy but guys super hyped to be here we have legends here in the audience if you want
to join us on the stage just request i'll bring you up oh my god what a crazy year tino how you doing man oh gmgm bro uh doing really good super excited uh also in a very
festive mood still chilling uh not really working but rather thinking and preparing for 2020 fucking
six and man all good all good how have you been man i'm doing the same i'm doing great i'm actually uh touching grass a little bit you know
uh being uh offline a bit traveling thinking what to do and i really believe 2020 can you hear me
yeah yeah you're good you're good yeah oh good man i'm so scared man my setup is insane i need
to switch it up for travel setup in 2026 that's the goal but i've been thinking you know checking
what other games are doing where other side is heading uh what's happening in the space and uh i'm really happy i'm really
happy about 2025 and i believe that 2026 will be uh will be even better and you know with other
side i think other side is the major thing that's uh there's gonna be a huge huge banger in 2026 so yeah man it's so it's so funny because
i know you so when you say i'm not online if i took your phone and looked at the online screen
time it's it's probably not like uh 20 hours anymore it's like uh 14. how many how many yeah
of course of course of course i'm never leaving leaving x or you know I mean the social media x
you know I left my x long time ago
I'm sending it to your girlfriend
share a GM in the the comments retweet the
space uh bookmark the space we have 12 retweets we can do so much better request get on stage
we're gonna be celebrating 2025 we're gonna be wrapping it up uh we're gonna be talking what's
going on i don't see gets be oh gets be he's been clicking probably because he's a bot he turned into
the bot i think he's been clicking uh ape church pixel pulse uh gamify.fun i don't know what else he's been clicking but he keeps clicking
also dr dave coin can join us on stage because he's been not clicking but drinking you know i
saw his photos oh my god he's such a great time so yeah man i love that also ngb in the audience
jcs snack so many amazing people.
Vegas, ELS Vic, our longtime listeners, guys.
Thank you so much for being here.
Brongis, ciao, amore, amigo.
So amazing that you guys are here with us.
So amazing that you keep coming back and keep uh keep you know chilling with us and
talking to us and macaveli what's going on my man welcome welcome to the grateful show 2025 rip up
yo yo yo yo yo how y'all doing i hope you guys are having the best december 30th of your lives
uh it's been a great morning over here I'm getting ready for this
Little New Year celebration over here
It's an average American holiday over here
Bro I also saw that you're doing some 24 hour challenge
Honeybee decided that he was going to do a 24-hour challenge and do life checks during that time frame.
And, yo, I'm going to tell you this hilarious situation here.
So this has been started yesterday morning, and it was going on.
And there was this large group of individuals.
I don't know, maybe like 40 individuals who were like trying to earn this box or whatever.
And he would go and type in the chat, you know, let me let follow me to the next location.
You would have to like fall.
If you fell or respond or anything, you'd be out because once he stopped, anybody that was there was still a part of it was in.
So like people were falling like flies after the First six hours well
This gentleman who said I think I'm about to
And a honey bee account shows
Up over there on Kota Island
And types in the chat hey
Follow me and they follow him
And they followed him all the way to
the swamp he got on the train and they listened to him they followed a fake honeybee after and
so honeybee goes he shows up in Dakota Island and everybody's gone I saw that man that's incredible
and because I've been traveling, it's so interesting.
The feeling when you go to the other side, it really feels like you going back home.
It's absolutely crazy feeling.
I don't know how to explain that.
But there's an emotional intelligence with environment in association and where you spend time and how you acclimate to those type of situations. And it's such a social and emotionally intelligent experience.
Because you're having great conversations.
And you're able to radiate your feelings.
And you actually get enjoyment.
There's those dopamine hits.
When we're running around and we're playing.
Your friends are winning.
So when you throw the emotional intelligence into the mix. I think that you get a your friends are winning. Like, so like when you throw the emotional
intelligence into the mix, I think that like you get a yearning for it, like that type of fun,
that type of wanting that experience again. And it's, it's almost the same with any of the other
platforms, you know what I'm saying? They're out here creating those kinds of experiences where
people come around and become social. So yeah, I'm, I'm excited'm excited 100 and i think i've been uh uh looking at my son
because he's uh one of the wishes from santa was uh to try minecraft because he's not uh very much
on screen and so so he was building in minecraft uh for a little bit and what i wanted to say is
i think another aspect of uh of other side will be building because I see him building
the space I see him you know like really taking it as his own and really crafting and doing some
stuff and I think this will be also game changer for the emotional how do you the the emotional uh intelligence intelligence but yeah but also you know like
connecting to uh to the space uh to your space and to the to the place that that you created
yourself i think this will be huge as well and you know what's really crazy man because i i was
really touching grass you know like irl completely different way and completely different ways days for me than usual right
and it's crazy that you really can live just online in digital worlds man like it's absolutely
nuts i can believe that we already see in roblox you can build you can create a business inside
right the same will happen with other side and i was really thinking about really young people
man like they can lose the the social how to say that like the social skills you know how to deal
with people iRL bro that's really crazy you know what's crazy is that my kid comes home and plays
in rooms or fortnight games with the kids that he goes to school with in his class or they play in
the same roblox rooms even with the kid across the street you know they all have their gamer tag and
stuff like that and so like listen my six-year-old is going to be you know odk on a d you know or at
least have one if he wants to you know what i mean like because it's going to be all ai tools and
stuff and like i'm already leaning both of mine into that direction on,
you know, you got to be able to learn how to prompt,
learn how to tell this thing exactly what you want.
Because one of the best things about what's with all these tools is
it's really about what you put in.
Grateful knows my son is also,
he keeps talking about building in the other side.
He keeps asking, so daddy, is it already now?
Is it already open for building?
He keeps asking about it.
He asked Grateful last time as well.
And I think this will be a lot of fun.
And you are completely right.
I know of many like teenagers, teens that are spending much more time
together online playing Roblox or Fortnite than they are in real life.
And it's also beautiful that we can hang out together, right?
And we all live in different places, you know, Machavel in US,
Rita in Dubai, you know, Dr. Dave Coyne in Ireland, for example.
I know that, I know that. Also big shout out to Jubiro for the Nexus. I know that. Also, big shout out to Jubiro
And guys, I will share the code
right now so you can claim it.
Incredible art as always. Absolutely love it.
the 2025. The code uh and i don't
see honeybee here to spell it so i'll do my best is happy and no not happy and sorry sorry happy
2026 happy 2026 that's the code so claim it guys i will also share the code in comments you can get
beautiful badge and you know i know you've been doing some kind of a summary of 2025.
So what should be our first question?
What should be our first thing to talk about related to 2025
and what happened during that year?
And also, guys, we want to wrap the year up,
talk about our highlights, lessons, what worked, what didn't work.
So if you want to share yours, just request and I will bring you here.
But, you know, go ahead. I know you've been working on it for a while.
Yeah. So what I did several times already,
and I prepared one for tomorrow, actually,
is an amazing exercise for your mind.
And I do it. It's inspired by Austin Kleon.
And it's 100 things that made me extremely happy in 2025.
And it's a beautiful thing
because you spend time going through your calendar
because photos are usually the best guides to that.
And basically every time you are on a photo
even the everyday stuff like a dish or whatever.
And you just put it, I usually use Notion.
So I just put a note there and then put it all together.
And it's actually really funny because I got into 125 things and I'm like, bro, no.
Because I got into 125 things and I'm like, bro, no.
When I was doing it for the first time, I was so scared that 100 looked so like way too much.
But in the end, when you start also thinking about the small things that make you happy about the small moments or small abs or whatever that makes your life easier.
I think you'll come up with so many things and I really suggest everyone do their own version of that.
It doesn't have to be 100.
It's just a good kind of a reminder of being grateful.
And really thinking of which things to focus on in the next year.
I do a letter from founders for my brand
that all the newsletter subscribers are getting.
And I think these things are really good
because brain is a really funny thing,
And bro, as we were talking the other day,
I thought it was five years ago.
It's, it's, it's really insane.
So I think, bro, can I hop in?
Don't forget, don't forget what you wanted to share about it.
What do you think that were one of the first episodes of Grateful Show about, bro, in 2025?
I didn't know, know man i had no idea
because it could bitcoin all-time high or something no it was it was ai agents bro do you remember ai
agents like who knows what happened with those right first i wanted to say something with meme
coins yeah you are right ai agents that's that was the beginning of the year and we talk about abstract with marianne here in january 16th and tg is still hasn't happened man
so it's it's crazy how time flies i will go through a few episodes and then we get back into
what happened in 2025 and what were your highlights bro but it's absolutely crazy we
really started and i asked gpt to actuallyT to actually summarize what we are talking most,
and I will get after I go through this episode.
But we really started ApeChain.
We had many projects here.
We had Bushbabies here, for example.
We also had HappyApe and MutantsBeer.
So we also did MadeByApes uh chimpers dsnrs so we really started a
lot with ape chain and that was probably the most common theme of of 2095 in in grateful show ape
chain apecoin bayc other side content creation we are talking about streaming on ape chain um
content creation we are talking about streaming on ape chain um and uh yeah let me go through more
but ape coin ape coin board damn board closet we hosted march unfortunately they they just closed
damn this space is not easy it's not easy uh what else we have here what's cooking on ape chain
ape family on top bro we celebrated uh fourth year anniversary of bayc
we gotta celebrate 51 very soon we hosted gary v here on may 7th let's go baby hosted me bits um
here uh they're doing incredible job we had clutch markets we had a art pass by tj the creator
we had a art pass by TJ the creator, Miami trip powered by Apechain that's
the trip that actually read it maybe he he he doesn't remember but he did it he
was here live on the show he had a great time we had a Ape Street gallery we had
a Apechain Megaspace here that's's awesome. We also had Somnia Network, Proof of Play,
Gaming on Apechain. Damn man, Apechain, Apechain. We also hosted Ton Blockchain,
Balloons on Ape, Graph Kits, and so on and so on. So many. Yeah, so basically that's the summary of 2025 and I go to the chat GPT summary.
So it was ApeChain, OtherSide, NFTs, Avatars, Metaverse, Community, Building Builders, ApeCoin, and Drops and Packs.
And we hosted Deck Zero here, we hosted Chimpers talking about their packs, so damn.
And I think also other games
so i love it man what a great year yeah bro i think this this sums it up really well i think uh
already past year was uh quite oriented towards uh ape chain and apecoin uh i think this year
the year before it was more uh made by apes this year made by apes, I think was a little bit more silent.
Many of the builders are just preparing or just or kind of sunsetted their projects
or are not that active and focus more on ape chain and other side.
And I think we slowly became the ape chain space or one of the spaces
that really focuses on ape chainChain and builders on ApeChain.
We keep hosting all the time and I really like it because it's also cool that you mentioned Somnia, you mentioned Abstract, that we're really agnostic as they say and we're not the haters. And, you know, as we always try to keep it positive in the space,
no matter how the market is, already for four years,
bull or bear, we're still there.
So I think that sums it up really well.
Yeah, it's also crazy that, man, I remember writing down everything
in 2022 when we started the show, and now I just dropped
the podcast link to ChatGPT and I was like,
summer is the topics, what were top 10 keywords and it's absolutely nuts.
So that's one of my goals for 2026 actually, to use AI more to create better content.
Do you think that 2026 will be the year of made by codas
you know man you know like because this is because you know this is the year of the coda
oh yeah yeah no i really hope it's the year of coda and i really hope uh there's gonna be some
utility or use case we we talk a lot about it, like resources and codas.
So I really hope we're going to learn more.
And just wait till they just show us what they haven't been able to show us.
I think that they're going to really surprise us all seriously when it comes to the other side.
know what i mean like they've like and they've thought of all the things and all the stuff so i
And they've thought of all the things and all the stuff.
mean hell rita's probably got a whole trick of sleeves up or a whole bag of sleeve tricks up
his pocket or whatever well 100 and i think what you know we see floor prices we see what you know
we also see people leaving the space and one thing i would love to see is really some kind of economy on the other side
so everyone can start building and start bringing you know also maybe web to audiences
start monetizing a little bit and yeah that's what i want to see so everyone has a chance to
actually make it sustainable for them and or find a way how to finance, right?
Because it's very hard to run businesses
if you don't have income stream, right?
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
I want to be able to charge in USDC on the other side too.
Or USD8, you know what I'm saying?
It'd be nice to be able to transact that way as well.
Yeah, and I think that's possible right i think it's uh we have a we have a usde or what we have on the on ape chain usdc also so that might be possible yeah and
so mccable if you look back 2025 man you had a you had a huge year with other games for sure because in Vegas it was insane.
If you miss that, guys, that esport arena was incredible.
I think that escalated quite quickly for you guys, right?
So what were some of your highlights and lessons?
What have you learned through being in this space 24-7?
And maybe what were some of your challenges also?
Man, that's a loaded question, man.
That's a lot of things to answer right there.
I think that if I could wrap up my 2026 or 2025,
it would just be like consistency, persistence, you know what I'm saying? The will,
you know what I'm saying? Like, and coming at it just like authentically with a pure heart,
like, you know what I mean? Like, I think that I got to be myself this past year. I think I'm
getting to be myself right now. And, uh, you know, um, it's one day at a time, you know what I'm
saying? At the end of the day, like we get to be a part of one of the best communities in the world.
And we're getting to be a part of something that's so much bigger than ourselves.
And so, like, I think I've learned how to collaborate more, you know, operate from different places that I'm used to.
Or, you know what I'm saying?
Like, it's one thing when you're an entrepreneur or a solopreneur and you're just, you know, it's everything relies on you, but like,
it's so much different when you have teams and I say teams because it's really
about teams. Like I have a team with other games,
but there's the eight co team that is like so strong.
There's the Yuga team that's so strong.
There's the Inceptive studios team that is so strong.
Like there's all these teams out there that are working and really just like
putting this stuff together that like, I'm like, you know, it's just amazing to be part of it. strong like there's all these teams out there that are working and really just like putting
this stuff together that like I'm like you know it's just amazing to be part of it I've learned
how to collaborate better I think so um and you know while things have escalated quickly like
and I feel so blessed like there's so still so much more to go and so much more to do and
so many more people to put this in front of and to onboard and to really so much more partnerships
and contacts to be made. And like, you know, I tell you what, and this is one of my goals for
2026 is like, you do a thousand cold calls and tell me you don't get one sale at what you're
doing. You know what I'm saying? Like, just call people who you know are in the demographic or the field of what you're
operating within, and you can't, if you can't go sell yourself, come on, like, so, like, I'm really
excited about this next year, just because it's, like, to me, like, there's, we're in a decentralized
ecosystem, baby, like, I don't need, you don't need permission, you can really go build out here,
and we're, and we're seeing it happen in real time and like i said uh i couldn't be more excited to be a part of it let's go man and we definitely
have to also touch ape fest because i think that was that was huge but i see rita and it also
getting probably it's three hour difference right so it's like uh 9 26 i know rita's always uh
he never sleeps of course but uh he's been a huge builder in this
space he's behind so many uh incredible avatars animations he's been building for the other side
oh my god um yeah i can't even use the words to describe what he's been doing for our space so
rita welcome here man you definitely want one of the legends.
You guys are the legends.
In 2025, with you guys, I launched, well, we launched GZone 8.
And all thanks to you guys.
So, big up to the grateful show on the team.
You guys do so much for us.
Man, how was the year for you, man?
What were the highlights, any challenges, and what are you looking forward for in 2026?
I was actually thinking about that. 2025 was one of the craziest years.
It's had its extreme ups and its extreme downs. It was very challenging.
The swings between up and down are very challenging, both psychologically and everything.
But yeah, 2026, hope it gets better.
Even better than the tops, but definitely better than the bottoms.
But yeah, no, 2026, with you guys still around, I think we will kill it again.
You mentioned Jeeze, which is an incredible collection.
It's great to see Jeeze avatar running all over the other side.
And you are behind one of the, or maybe the best avatar in the other side.
You and I do animation abroad.
And yeah, it's absolutely crazy.
I agree. I agree. I couldn't say I am. We are behind the best Avatar, which is the Grateful
Avatar. You always win. I don't know how. No, no, but yeah. No, great avatars i don't think uh me and you imagined this in 20 when other
side launched that this will actually come we used to think it was so far all the different
communities that are on other side i was actually i started counting how many avatars we got done
this year i'll give the number today or tomorrow once i'm done. It has to be so many, bro.
You've got to be in the triple digits, huh?
No, I don't think it's triple digits, but it's
what? I mean, the total avatars,
you mean? Yeah, no, definitely over that.
collections with full avatars
But a lot of communities.
I mean, McEval, you've seen the list
There's so many communities coming.
There's so many communities coming.
A lot has been done. A lot has been
cooking in the background. A lot will be
cooked in the future. I think it's going to be
And Rita, I know... Go ahead, Tino. Go ahead. cooking in the background a lot will be cooked in the future i think it's going to be a huge year so rita i know i'll go at you know go ahead so rita what was the biggest learning for you
from this year i don't know if i learned anything i'm an idiot
no the biggest learning is i don't i thought you said orange bro
I thought you said fuck orange bro
no this year was not too bad
everybody else behaved to be honest
but Dr. Dave redeemed himself
he sent his G to space so
That's correct, that's correct.
And man, you made so many avatars and more and more is coming in 2026.
What would you recommend to content creators in 2026?
What to focus on and how to approach digital space on the other side, man?
Do you see streaming? Do you know creating on your own land um is it something that you you work with
your company bro like to help creators like us to uh build custom custom deeds and custom stuff
i mean i'm a believer a big believer of user-generated content. And I know you guys as well.
By how many different UGC platforms they've supported throughout the years.
And if you see now, for example, they're launching the other side fields.
It's really not that big of a generation for Yuga or doesn't make a dent, but they opened it for creators.
I think a lot of more revenue and a lot of more activations on other side will increase creators and the creator economy on other side.
Oh, that's Alpha, because mine are ready already, man.
We did them. I'm getting mine ready. Mine are ready already, man. We did them.
I just need to drop them.
We did them with Hydro Animation.
You see, I mean, Hydro Nation is a 2D illustrator, one of the best in the space, if not the best.
And up to this, there was no content creation revenue for a 2D animator.
Now there is, right? But before that, he designed your avatar, for example, and then we took it to
3D. So there will always be different stuff being launched. I guess the 2D artists, the 3D artists, the screamers,
I think this is why other side is so
big and has so much potential.
There are so many avenues for creators,
for gamers, for streamers,
and for content creators,
of course. You saw what's
being done with just the Kodaka.
being done with that is crazy.
I think, was that Frosties who actually made an account
that whoever mints the Kodaka picture, it tweets out, right?
It was Frosties probably, right?
I mitted like 250 pictures so far. I... It was Frosties probably, right? I minted like 250 pictures so far.
right there, Frosties created a Twitter
account that auto-tweets those.
Somebody does the minting.
Somebody does this. There are so many different
avenues. And this is the beauty
of OtherSite. And this is the
big potential of OtherSite and 2026.
you've just bought a studio
content and creates stuff for
And maybe, Rita, because you
understand this better than us,
what does this acquisition
M2Tech, or did they buy like M-Square Tech?
Or did they buy the studio who creates the content?
Or what did they buy actually?
I don't want to get in any trouble.
But what I understood is the studios owned by Improbable.
Or they were the ones creating experiences.
Sorry, I have a really bad cough. They were the ones creating the experiences and the...
Sorry, I have a real bad cough.
Yeah, so they were probably the one who created also the challenges, right?
I don't know about that, but they were the ones creating... You remember the Major League Baseball experiences and all that?
That's incredible, because I think sports,
that can be another crazy thing to bring it into the other side.
So, like, a lot of happened in 2025, especially in other side.
It's absolutely crazy to think about that we didn't have 24-7 other side.
That Machiavelli and the team can bring the other games and create some dope experiences for us.
I would say this was a year of the other side.
I don't know what else was bigger than that.
And of course, A-Fest was insane.
I don't really think we've seen anything really, really.
I know for us in our ecosystem, it's incredible. But I think once this thing really gets legs and takes off,
once we garner some more attention and get the ODK levels opened up
and we get Bathroom Blitz back, Outbreak, we see Primal Instinct roll out, weitz back outbreak. We see primal instinct roll out.
We're going to have all these things start to roll out.
And I think that while we're doing our dailies and word of mouth is
happening, like you're going to see the other players start to roll in
slowly. And it'll be, there'll be a trickle effect there.
And I don't know when the moment will be when it's just like, boom,
but I think that we are on the right path as a community,
as people who participate every day
to like seeing that happen you know what i mean but we got to just keep with the outreach keep
keep pushing it because when they do turn on the marketing machine for this they're gonna turn it
on and then you're like you're not gonna recognize the place bro i still think that we are we are
the testers right we are testing stuff uh they can learn
and especially i think experiences like other games are great because you can test different
games you see how people react what they like what they don't like what works what doesn't work and
we need to test it we need to you know we tested bubbles how many bubbles you can open etc etc
so i'm fine that there's no marketing right now because we need more games and so on
but i'm going there daily even while traveling and the stream works perfect if you have even
like i i even use the i prefer it the hotspot really even though i yeah even though i have
the client like i get i'll get lag issues on the client right now and stuff like sometimes and where
i can't double jump and stuff but on stream i'm like it's it's
flawless like i'm moving fast i'm jumping i'm drinking i can i can implement my like side
flying and fly a little faster than normal and stuff like that so yeah i'm enjoying using the uh
stream i think you guys made two really good points uh one is that this is all just a big alpha beta test it's uh it's amazing because it's
it's live and at the same time it's uh live in a very specific group of enthusiasts and people
who are crazy about it and uh i i think that's that's huge and also what macaveli said uh i don't
think the the marketing machine has started started because you kind of heard the announcements
about Amazon Gaming being a partner.
Daniel Arsham creating one of the characters.
That's crazy where this all can bring us.
These are already just kind of side announcements.
And to build up on those, I think that's something really special and really big.
I can't wait to have that avatar.
You said it was the year of other side.
It's not, it's just the rails.
Only the rails or the infrastructure is being laid down.
That was being laid down in 2025
the launch has not launched yet um what we saw now is all the different pieces coming together
remember we used to say this all the time grateful um 100 100
damn was this me or was that reader because no i think that was me i muted i was still talking i
don't know why no but yeah uh you saw the how it's it's big stuff it's big it's big announced
um partnering with amazon partnering with uh with the inceptive studio It's big brands. Big brands. I mean, Inceptive Studio and Amazon are the same level of brand, right?
What were your three highlights of the year, like personally?
Oh, G's nuts and peanuts, right?
That is correct? That is correct
You should bring Hunter up
It was a big year for the world team
When talking about G's highlights
And Rita created a custom
A vest for him for the other side.
Actually it disappeared. The thing disappeared. I think we need to recreate it.
Yeah, I will put it back. In one of the resets, we keep on upgrading the avatars when we find little bugs and stuff.
So maybe one of the resets. I'll get it back up there, you know.
Yeah, I love that because he loves to play with it.
He's here and he's a big fan of that and it made him so happy bro.
To see his BitTorem thing on the vest being custom built by Rita.
custom built by Rita and that was definitely highlight for me to see that
And that was definitely highlight for me to see that.
it's incredible I'm also happy that actually Rita resetted the G's because
on my back there was a retard so I'm happy that it's gone
and uh yeah reedah thank you so much uh you don't have to bring it back but whatever
and i'm also trying to uh to pin up the video by ils ils if you want to join us here uh request
amazing video about other side uh we need more content creators. I think YouTube, Twitch, video on Twitter.
That's going to be the alpha how to share the content.
And this video is amazing.
I will just quickly pin it up here.
Yeah, Twitter is constantly changing.
So I don't even know how to pin it up right now.
So definitely check it out.
Please comment the video so we get some views.
And ILS, if you want to join us here on stage, please do.
But Tino, to your question, damn, ApeFest was insane, bro.
Like, that was so insane.
Absolutely love to meet all of you who were there.
It was incredible. Also, Other Side launch.
feels special when I meet someone.
I usually go around and give away some ApeCoin
if I see someone having that avatar there.
So that's insane. You've never given anyone any ApeCoin if I see someone having that avatar there. So that's insane.
You've never given anyone any ApeCoin away.
You always take it, I swear.
I've never seen you do that.
Tino, have you ever heard ApeGrate for giving away anything?
Last time I gave away 400 ApeCoin, bro.
It was probably not yours.
It was probably from a sponsor or something
i know you bro i know you don't even lie we all know you the whole space knows you
yeah the sponsor you mean uh you mean uh open page yeah they've been giving us
zero apecoins since day one bro it's it's incredible deal
how about other games they gave you they gave you ape coin to give away i know
i know in septum i don't know gave you like thousands and thousands and jeez gave you
thousands and thousands wait wait what's going on i'm co-host of this show i never received anything
no he always he always says no no don't give it to the grateful show give it to only me
that's what he tells us i know that he's been telling this to all the sponsors
That's what he tells us. I know that he's been telling this to all his sponsors.
Yeah bro, but that Lambo, man, thank you so much. It's incredible.
Tino didn't like the color. The problem with Lambo that I got is the size.
It's like just too... Oh shit bro, I don't want to get there.
But it's a small Lambo bro. That's what I want to get there! But it's a small Lambo, bro.
100%. I think when I was thinking about my highlights from the year about the space,
Ape Fest was definitely, I would say, number one because it was so special.
I keep talking about it too much.
Probably that connection with ComplexCon made me really, really happy.
And I really felt that the Ape Fest was, every Ape Fest is different.
Every Ape Fest felt special in a different way.
And I really, really enjoyed this one.
And even some of the small moments,
not only like the big moments of the announcements or whatever,
but only just the small moments that I met Gordon
for the very first time in real life.
I met many of the people like Machiavelli
for the very first time in real life
and some of other friends that I've been talking to
for a really, really long time and i think these uh small moments as you grateful say the uber rides and uh these
kind of backstage things i think those make the the entire event very special and uh so that's
that's definitely number one highlight or one of the number one highlights for me. I really have to be very selfish as well and
say the Ape Street Gallery because I go around that place every single day almost and it makes
me happy every single day. To see people stopping there, taking pictures, many of the apes come in
here just to see the wall or deciding for Prague as a destination
just because there is this wall.
And that makes me really, really happy.
We renovated it in May, put some more effort into it.
Bro, did you have to renovate the wall because so many apes were coming?
Because of the flash photography you know it uh it started
coming off no i'm kidding uh the the winter was very cruel there was a lot of winds uh so many of
the apes fell down so we had to get a cherry picker and uh and and really uh put uh the apes
back the only one that fell ever since was Grateful Apes.
And I, Rita, I swear I have nothing to do with that. I don't think you were here in Prague to do that either.
But this one happened and I'm really sorry all the time when I see him in a garage, his big avatar being there and waiting for
to be put back up. But it will happen, I'm grateful very soon.
So this was for me another highlight and for sure...
Petrino, I have a question for you. Some of those tapes have left the club.
Shouldn't we get a refresh, new ones as well? New legends that have joined in 2025?
I would love to. I also had a chance or got an agreement to do another facade from the front, from the highway side.
The thing is, I wasn't able to get the funding for that.
I was in talks. It was actually during the time when ApeCo happened and ApeCoin Dow was sunsetted.
happened and uh apecoin down was uh sunset uh sunsetted so uh i put quite some of my personal
uh funding into into the wall and i uh unfortunately cannot uh do it without any external funding so
this year it didn't happen i really hope that it might happen uh or it will happen next year
we're all ready for that uh we have uh the this uh uh part the part for the wall on the side.
So we can do like, I would say 80 or so more Ape.
Bro, just get ApeCoin to $10 and I'll pay it, bro.
Let's go, yeah, I'll pay it.
Bro, Amp, Mutant and Fusion will sponsor the whole wall.
And Wallchain, bro, I don't wall chain, bro. And wall chain. So we have two sponsors here.
I even saw what's his name from Amazon was in here as well.
Now, if there are some people who would love to, you know, happy, happy for that.
But hopefully it will work out also with ApeCore directly with Yuga because it's a great sponsorship kind of for, you
know, the ecosystem is being very visible.
And as I said, like Grateful Nose, there is really tons of many in summer.
There's like hundreds of people seeing that every single week and so on.
I think there are two or three apes only, not that many more.
Most we did the right curation and most of the people are still here.
I think there are actually 2.
I don't think we should remove any, because those apes, even if they left,
they did a big part in the space in writing the history of the body of Pjokla.
Yeah, so let's see where the future brings us.
I definitely would love to build this in the other side.
And that would be pretty funny because we could create some raffles and who gets is uh uh who who gets there and so on i think
that might be pretty pretty cool uh i think there will if that's possible there will be uh that will
be one of the first things that i'll try to make happen somehow and uh just to just to sum up uh
my final highlight the number three uh from uh from last year was definitely hosting Gary V on the show. I think that meant personally for me a lot.
It was a pretty crazy kind of a moment that brought me to the space.
I was brought to the space via VFriends.
I went to the very first VCon and this was my first NFT event
and I met some of the apes there as well
for the very first time before
I even knew that I would have something
and it was perfect, it was
and it was a special moment
also for our whole show because
we've been grinding since
day one and this felt really special.
Gary V, he was on vacation in Prague
and Tino randomly met him on the street.
and I knew he was in Prague
because many of my Web2 audience people know that I've been following him for a while.
I've been a big fan. They were sending me pictures of him from Prague.
One of my acquaintances met him, had a picture with him, he sent it to me directly.
I was like, bro, that's crazy. It would be so funny if I could meet him. But he does follow me, so I wrote him a DM.
Of course, he didn't reply.
But I really randomly went to the center for something.
And I went to a barber appointment,
but it was the wrong day that I came.
And as I was walking i was like
no way this is unbelievable and i see gary walking in the streets of prague so i'm like
i went there to do a photo with him that was that was a very very crazy moment for me two years ago
it was insane crazy that macaveli shared the same story about meeting me in in vegas bro in that line and i
actually bought him i i bought him water uh that was for free and i brought it to him he was so
happy with that water so yeah uh guys one more thing if you go to op.xyz you can claim the badge
the code is happy2026 and also i see that jubrell the legend behind the badge has uh also mint on op so
if you go to mintables you can mint 2025 um it's called 2025 was a great year so minted support uh
jubrell he's uh such an incredible artist and uh let's say hi to hunter and then amp uh amp the the new sponsor
of grateful show and the the ape street gallery in prague that's awesome hunter how you doing man
how was your 2025 gmg quack guys what's up grateful what's up tino rita uh thanks for having
me up here and you can probably hear my voice too like Like Rita, I have a bit of a cold getting over it. But yeah, 2025 was was freaking awesome, man. And huge for me, specifically, in terms of beginning of the year, I was grinding in real estate and hating it.
state and hating it, investing, also, you know, doing some agency and just trying my
best to get back into a Web3 position and going to conferences for the first time.
And I met Yuri, obviously, actually leaving the Accelerate Solana conference.
He tapped me on the shoulder and said said hey aren't you an ape and uh
talked took off from there man um so i'm hold on how did that happen actually man that's crazy
i love that story so he just stepped on your shoulder and he was like are you ape and he got
you in yeah man no so i had the uh i don't know it goes way back to year one, I think, of BAYC, where, remember those baseball jerseys?
They had a baseball game, and man, I know Albert Pujols was connected to it.
I forgot the other ex-MLB player who ran it, but I was wearing that, and he saw my A-POP, the patch on it,
and he tapped me on the shoulder, and I was about to leave. I was
going home. I was just there for like five hours and I was done. And, um, yeah, man, I was like,
man, you look really familiar. Like, how do I know you? And, uh, of course you, you run wall chain.
And at that point I didn't really do much quacking. I was kind of diving into info five,
but kind of skeptical, like a lot of you guys in the, you know, in the crowd and whatnot. Shout out to the couple of quackheads I see in the crowd.
But yeah, man, and we kind of hit it off and he wanted to pick my brain as someone kind of on the
fence. And so we were talking in DMs for weeks. And then, you know, I told him all about my background with Nifty Drops, co-founding Nifty Drops and running partnerships over there.
And I think, you know, the whole watching team is Ukrainian.
And I think he wanted American to, you know, look pretty and say things and do the American thing for us and such. And,
yeah, man, we hit it off and the rest is just going, you know, history and the future. But,
yeah, man. And, you know, behind the scenes, grateful, you were a huge impact on me in 2025 and you know exactly how you know I uh
I was in DMS with him talking about oh man I'm thinking about rebranding before that and I didn't
but uh he had really good advice on that um because he went through it years before and uh I also was
picking his brain about like hey man can I come on your show?
I'm kind of coming back out of the weeds, trying to get back into Web3. And he just, you gave me
so much support, man. And I really appreciate you. You brought back my Web3 confidence and
connected me with so many people. And it's just, it's been a really good year. I got married this year too. So
and you know, Rita talking about eighth best, I ran into Rita early on and you know, hit it off
with him. He's a big guy. I'm a big guy and we're, you know, shooting the shit. He was giving me
shit for, for Yuri, not getting back to him on the uh on our uh quacks lady our 3d quacks lady
that he had made for us and uh then at the at the mansion i was just bothering him here and there
like hey man grateful what the hell does he look like man i need to i need to be grateful and and
i probably bothered him like three or four
times and uh finally he pointed you out to me so anyway i don't want to go i love i love doxing
grateful and i think um i'm gonna dox him now since nobody knows how he looks like
rita actually created a grateful onlyfans account with my real photo there so that's how he really
enjoyed doxing me, and he's just sharing
the links with people when they are like,
that he didn't give you the link when you are
looking for me, because he's usually like, oh, you want to
find Grateful? Here's the link,
and you need to pay me 20 bucks a month, and
you'll see Grateful there, so crazy, man.
in for that, Rita, if that's still a thing,
um but yeah like i said you know you guys you guys were a big and tino i didn't get to meet
you um unfortunately then i think you were getting drinks when i ran into grateful but
um you know in the future for sure and uh yeah just big shout out to you guys for the sport and
the love and uh you know helping
a fellow aquamarine who you know has found this baby blue it's you know it's a it's a plus and
negative at the same time but um yeah cheers to you guys man what a what an incredible word thank
you thank you so much hunter but i need to i need to clarify one one thing uh um hunter actually
was like uh let me quickly check
the leaderboard and he was like oh Tino
is not top 10 fuck it you know
I don't need to meet him IRL so
what were your biggest lessons and successes with Wallchain and InfoFi in general?
You know, I think obviously not being at the helm, but being near the helm and supporting the helm in terms of Yuri and Max.
Being at the helm, but being near the helm and supporting the helm in terms of Yuri and Max and diving back into building the perception and building the project, but also the perception of the project. besides me and taking Yuri's calm, confident, controlled, you know, not saying too much
voice that he has and translating it into something awesome that has really, I feel like
has taken, has really done well in the last five to six months since I've been with them.
well in the last five to six months since I've been with them. My biggest lessons are just,
you know, listen to the community. I really think that, you know, like I said, I was in real estate
and they say the three laws of real estate are location, location, location. Joining Wall Chain
has really been a reminder that those three laws for Web3 are community, community, community.
And that's what we're pushing.
And it's fucking awesome to be on a team that and with founders that give me a lot of leeway
and give me, you know, the reins to really help build that and get back to a big part
of early Web3 or at least early NFTs,
right, which is where I come from in terms of doing things right and not doing things for the greed
and for the gains that we've seen really dominate the space in kind of an ugly way for the last three years or so. So I guess that's my biggest lessons are,
you know, I got to stay in Web3 because leaving Web3 once you work in it is like
getting your teeth pulled slowly. And at the same time, you know, leaning forward with confidence, taking a shot with connecting with people from my Web3 past and like yourself, grateful and putting yourself out there.
attending in in real life events is is major taking photos of yourself well not grateful
grateful doesn't need photos and so well maybe the only fans is helping behind the scenes but
you know if you're down to docs you know involve your personality involve your you know i the
wall chain secret santa i asked for a duck call.
I don't know if you saw that video, but I got a duck call like for hunting.
Actually from the duck dynasty, duck commander company. And I've been quacking on that bad boy.
Just doing a bunch of stupid shit, right?
Having a good time because that's what the space is about.
But yeah, I appreciate you asking me that.
And in hindsight, here's the 2025, boys.
And also, I think the lesson is there, man.
You need to stay in the game.
You need to stay in the game and keep trying, keep going.
opportunity and you will find uh whatever you're looking for so absolutely love that and i really
think staying in the games as rida mentioned i know the lows are sometimes too low and the highs
are maybe even too high but if you if you stay in the, you have a chance to actually achieve something here, and we've seen it.
I have high hopes of 2026.
Not only hopes, because what was the saying in the Terminator?
There's no fate, only what we make, or something like that,
because we've got to create our future in 2026,
but I really think it's going to be a big year for a lot of us here.
So absolutely love that story.
And we always say it here, right?
The people are the alpha of this space.
And you are one DM away of something that you didn't even know that's going to happen.
If you're building something, DM us.
If you're doing something, don't be worried to share it with others because there are so many incredible people that can help you in this space.
Yeah, man. And amazing words, Hunter. And I think there is another lesson there. And we also keep talking about that one here on Great4Show for a long time.
about that one here on grateful show for a long time that you know many of us got into uh into
nfts because of uh like trading and flipping and stuff like that but but most of us aren't traders
most of us aren't the flippers are meant to be flipping so basically do you you know be yourself
be fine find your spot in the space and uh i'm not a gamer so i'm not gonna pretend that i'm like you know playing
and doing some some of the stuff that is not me but i'm gonna find my own thing for example on
the other side and i think that's a very important uh lesson at least for my side uh to everybody
that needs to hear this yeah you gotta become gamer in 2026
when your G's disappears from your wallet man
you know you need to change something.
I also have to say hi to Amp, the legend.
The sponsor, the main sponsor of Grateful Show now,
Amp, how are you doing today?
You know, there's no leader like my boy, Rita.
Yeah, I gotta behave because if not, I'm gonna get the M's and all type of...
Bro, I'm already bankrupt with this guy.
This guy got me sending out checks.
This guy, you can't make this shit up.
Yo, tomorrow, what we doing, Grateful?
Gotta be Big Bang tomorrow
Start spending We giving away all type of shit tomorrow
We've done we doing this tomorrow Rita get ready pack your bags
I'm sorry. All right. I'm out of here
You keep going you keep going
No, you're so you're so full of shit. You're almost as full of shit as grateful, bro. Wow, that's great. Yo, grateful. You believe this?
You did not give anything to anybody.
Show me. Give me one receipt.
Empty cans of mutant infusion, bro.
Well, you see, that's what pisses me off.
That's the way he asked for it.
Because he said the FBI is going gonna be pulling up on his ass
So I had to send it the way
Did did mutant infusion did they or did they not send me a six pack of empty drink?
My question to you is did you ask for it like that? It doesn't hello
a hundred percent a hundred percent I got the receipt I got the reason I miss
you man I miss you we're ending this year tomorrow let's get it what's our 12
p.m. right right grateful tomorrow 12 p.m., right? Right, Grateful? Tomorrow, 12 p.m. Oh, for sure.
I'll be drinking those empty cans, bro.
That's got to be so much fun.
Oh, the Grateful's another one.
I was sending him a care package.
He said, unfortunately, I don't drink.
I would say, fortunately grateful doesn't dream. Imagine grateful a dream.
Oh shit, I would still be in Vegas now.
Yeah, that would be dangerous, but we have so many legends here also in the audience
RFDZI legend other NGB Brongis the Italian MFR JB love the saw the legend behind also welcome
apes not only but also Dr. Dave Coyne the only orange ape in Ireland. Of course Hype, the legend, Jubrell, who's big,
Bad Russ, JCS. Oh my god, he saved and so on, Ape Spit, ILS and I can go
forever guys, Agent, damn and so on and so on and so on. I can read all the names but guys you're such
a legend we are really grateful for your support and I believe believe we're going to have so much fun in The Other Side in 2026.
We're going to build something special for you there for sure.
And Rita, you were unmuted.
I don't want to talk anymore.
There are no mistakes, bro.
Amp came in, ruined the mood, ruined the vibe,
and he still didn't give anything away
except empty cans and empty promises.
Wow. It's okay. it's okay it's okay bro i love you guys i'm here i'm out of here bro you know i don't
want to ruin nothing no no no no you're good you're joking i'm joking i miss you man
There's no leader like my boy.
Yo, before you go, I just want to say, I just want to chime in in the things that you were
Man, a lot of that shit ain't accurate, because I be hearing a lot of people up in these spaces,
and they haven't even DM me back.
And with that being said, y'all got to be more for the people.
If it ain't for the people,
better niggas better lock in, bro.
Because people need help, right?
that be in these spaces, bro.
I'm not gonna say no names.
Y'all some Hollywood actors, b-
I wanna leave it just right there, bro.
I'm just taking my DMs, man.
If I'm the one who ghosted you,
You ain't checking those DMs.
You ain't checking those DMs.
Because when niggas is out here
investing in your projects and we out here investing in y'all projects
and we out here trying to get some help,
a little bit of help to ask about
the project or something, y'all ain't it.
What capping? Wait, wait. What are you talking about?
You sent me a DM, I didn't see it.
No, I sent you a DM probably years ago.
You sent me a DM, I didn't see it either.
Yeah, you one of them. I sent you a DM probably years ago Probably years ago Yeah you wanted him I sent you a DM back
I wish Cristiano Ronaldo for his last birthday
If you got so many DMs bro
Cause y'all make that excuse big
I'm gonna tell you the truth right now VSV
We don't follow each other
We're not following each other on this app
And because of that it didn't even hit my DMs.
Like, I never saw it because I only get DMs from the people that I follow, boss.
So I just shot you a follow.
I shot you a follow like a thousand times, bro.
And I had to unfollow you a thousand times.
I mean well in this space, bro.
Y'all need to be for the people, son.
I mean well in these spaces. Each one teach'all need to be for the people, son. I mean well in these spaces.
Each one teach one like how y'all be talking, right?
Well, I'll be giving out all the formula.
So I didn't have any DMs.
It's even hard to DM founders in these spaces, bro.
Because you try to get a little bit of help, and you ain't getting no help, bro.
And I'm investing in these projects, bro.
DM me, bro, because I'm in these projects, bro.
I'm heavily invested in this shit.
I got man knowledge about this NFT shit, too.
Like, let's get it together.
I'm not trying to follow you if you don't follow me back i just followed you back man i followed you a thousand times i had
to follow you unfollow you bro i'm really sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry yo vsv you ain't gotta
be sorry bro you be acting like you hollywood and And I DM you to ask you a simple... He actually...
back out of the head to bodyguards in Vega.
You know, he kind of felt famous, so...
It's not that I'm Hollywood.
It's that I'm being who I am.
I'm just out here doing what I do.
And if I didn't get the message,
I didn't get the message, bro.
If you want to take it personal,
Nah, no, ain't taking it personal,
I'm out of here every day for the people. Why you got moves like that? Why you got DMs? I'm out of here every be for the people. Check your DMs, bro. Why not move like that?
I got your every day for the people so there's no cap.
If this was your intention
to come here and kind of ruin this all.
No, I'm not ruining nothing.
You never seen Pistino.'ve never seen Pistino.
You've never seen Pistino.
You can catch Willy Pist, guys.
I don't think it's very hard to catch Machiavelli.
Go on the fucking other side and talk to him there.
And trust me, man, like, stop.
Stop training the negativity.
Because, you know, like, to nenĆ mÄl.
Kdo spĆÅ” na mÅÆj kvÄl?
VĆÅ” tady a zĆ”kladil jste tady s lidem.
PÅeji, myslĆme, to je nĆ”m prvnĆ radeo, bylo to dobrĆ©, ale dÄlaty, to je hodnÄ. not first rodeo it was it was nice yeah but uh guys with dms it's tough you know i'm always uh
i always someone meet me and hey i dm you i check it out like shit i miss that because it's crazy
with dm so you know that happens for example dr dave coin he's been dming me for years i never
replied but then he started calling me that's even better so um on video, yeah, especially. And I always reply. So, yeah, there's always a way. But, guys, let's get back into 2025.
Yeah, and look at Rida, you know.
He was like, hey, man, what's going on, man?
If you wanted me to follow, you just get an ass, damn.
Oh, no, I mean, I see the frustration.
We've all sent DMs to people that didn't reply
and it feels bad but at the same time
to Rita that I didn't get reply
a secretary cause sometimes people DM me saying yo what's up with your Bro, I feel like a secretary Because sometimes people DM me
Saying, yo, what's up with your man, Rita
I'm like, yo, bro, his fucking DMs is crazy
Yo, no, no, no, but it's not
Nah, Machiavelli has to be said
Because the truth is that
He's always sending feed pics to me.
He was talking about you.
I know, but I like Hollywood Mac better.
He wasn't talking about you.
He was talking about me because he was saying it's a founder.
He said he was talking about me.
He said he followed me a thousand times and unfollowed me.
And I'm not about the people, goddammit.
This face, it takes you to extreme lows and extreme highs.
Emotions are all mixed up.
You know what I'm saying?
McAvelle, I saw you in Vegas.
It was wild, bro. Like, way to the to the esport arena
like there were fans there were girls throwing brass on macaveli you know underwear i don't
know what else they were throwing at him it was it was nuts and uh yeah without those two bodyguards
bro you couldn't even make it in so i understand understand that. He's on a different level.
You know, he's Other Games' founder.
I better shut up here, you know.
Bro, Hype was all over the place, man.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
I saw Hype more often than Illa, man.
If you know us, you know, we always have fun here.
Yeah, I was talking about...
I heard feed pics to Tino.
Yeah, but you know, feed pics are the are the best opening you know it's icebreaker
send feet pics and everybody's gonna reply i always do it i always do it rita he made me custom uh
eight feet pics and i always send them and it works like a magic except the crystal bro i'm
still waiting you know i i wish him i wish him the best for his christ and he didn't reply back, bro. He was fucked. Damn.
This is alpha. This is alpha.
Like, try to catch NGB, you know?
It's impossible. Send him feed pics.
Bro, two seconds, it's back.
So you guys are not doing it right.
Yeah, that's the way, man.
But, guys, let's get back into the into the best vibes here
because i think uh 2025 was an incredible ride for a lot of us and um also the space progressed a lot
talking about rita and we talked that he's been working on so many avatars i think that's
incredible because people always talk like,
what's the difference between NFTs and meme coins, right?
But now you have your NFT, you have your identity,
you have art that you like,
and you have avatar for the other side,
which you can also utilize to create more content,
to do more stuff, buy wearables on open page and so on.
So I think this is going to be a game changer and we see more projects joining like Cool Cats, Chimpers.
I'm bringing Ape Church because, man, I've been playing that Dino Doe a lot.
So it's incredible progress.
And I'm really bullish on that.
And I believe that we will get that other side economy, right?
That we will be able to make money inside the other side.
And with making money, we will be able to grow more,
And we have people like Machiavelli and the team
with other games that you guys have been...
Those guys were killing it. have amp you know sending empty
cans that could get better a little bit maybe but you know Rita like that so who cares and
we might have Coco here or whoever's behind that ape church account guys you need to keep
spinning how you doing, man?
I just wanted to pop in here and say what's up to you guys.
And, you know, end of the year.
It's been an interesting year.
And just wanted to tap in with you grateful.
You're like, bro, you're like the pillar of consistency when it comes to spaces, bro.
I think I've been listening to your spaces for how long you've been doing them, man?
You're going on years now.
And I kind of think it's funny.
I think that is very symbolic of what BAYC and the whole ecosystem kind of represents.
Just consistency showing up every single day.
You can be up, down, left, right, whatever,
but you just keep kind of showing up and doing your thing.
So fucking kudos to you, man. You know, that's something that I think people need to appreciate more in the industry
is people that just have absolute consistency and conviction with what they're doing.
So we need more grateful. We need more grateful apes in the space bro i think it's incredible to have all of you here
on stage and in the audience because everyone is doing their own thing right and and as rita
mentioned like you have lows you have highs but you need to keep going and it's crazy how you guys
going right like everyone here is is crazy you know you you you kept going over the bear bull whatever so um i think us as a team i think that's the that's the superpower right so
uh big shout to everyone here because guys you you have been killing it it's it's crazy you know
so yeah uh also you know i got two room stones and two gimbos whitelist. Yeah.
Yeah, I love that dino though, man.
I don't know how... That's my favorite, bro.
It's my favorite game as far as slots.
That's just like, I don't know, bro.
Because you can hit good jackpots on that one.
You either get absolutely killed or you hit like a 60x or something you know and also
hype is crazy on ape church man i don't know what he's doing we need to get hype here because
hype and g spot bro and imagine this sentence bro hype found g spot in ape church bro that sounds crazy right yeah man i mean i honestly bro like it's just been i i think like
the the support and the people that have been enjoying themselves and and using the platform
have been i mean that's the reason we're you know where we're i mean we're not even anything yet but
we're just gonna keep growing and building and trying to like you know keep spreading you know making a
really cool product for ape chain um so yeah and those those guys have been huge huge users of the
platform so shout out to them gspot's crazy bro he he he plays insane bro like he he goes harder than me. He knows. Listen, you can't tell the man to go all in because the man will go all in.
Bro, did you see ā it's so funny.
Like, Valerie hit 500x yesterday.
Valerie's been cooking too.
Bro, like, I was like, what?
That's the biggest multiplier ever.
Four ape in a dream, bro.
What if that was a 108 G-spot bet
Shit, that would have been big.
Who said that hype is going
hard on G-spot? Who said that, actually?
I don't know what you're doing, man.
So Coco, what was your highlight in 2025
Is there anything that you would love to share with us here?
Well, I think actually, to be honest with you, I think 2025 has been a year, and I'm talking about the broader crypto ecosystem.
I think it's been a year where people understand that the industry is not per se on easy mode, how it used to be in a lot of ways.
So they actually have to put in a lot of work and and and you know care about like the quality and then i also think
that um highlight for 2025 that's a i think ape fest has to be like one of my highlights man just
getting able to hang out with everybody and seeing all the homies and just having just like a really
really good time um yeah i think i think it had to be ape fest was was the complex con was awesome
too bro i had so much fun at that um yeah i would say i would say ape fest was my highlight 2025
when it comes to crypto at least um it's the it's the my favorite thing that i did but besides that
um uh personally i had you know i got into some good meme coins um did okay trading not as good as i
had done in previous cycles but um oh you had a daughter yeah don't forget that should be oh yeah
yeah yeah i had a kid that's number one yeah i had a daughter yeah i have a i have a 10 month
old baby now i i feel like an idiot for not saying that as the major highlight. Fuck.
my top priority. So yeah, I had the
baby and that was amazing.
my highlight. And then Ape Fest has got to be the number
two. Bro, his baby was four months old
He said nine months today, so it changes, man.
I mean, I used to send him DMs, but I didn't know Coco, and he'd tell me, you know, I just had a baby.
Every time, every month, I'd send him something.
He's like, you know, I had a baby.
That baby's been four months for like two years.
I still do have a baby, bro. She's just getting older now. Hey, man. I still do have a baby, bro.
She's just getting older now.
Actually, hanging out with Rita was one of the highlights.
This guy's an absolute madman.
You know, he flew all the way from Dubai across the world.
Seeing him all together was even crazier.
And, you know, like, I'm really proud of him for, you know,
I know he hurt his back on the plane ride,
so he was going around Ape Fest with a hurt back the whole time.
So you got to, you know, be proud of him for making it through.
Those plane rides can really throw your back out, you know. So definitely proud of him for making it through. Those plane rides can really throw your back out, you know?
So definitely proud of him for accomplishing that.
I heard that happens when you have balls of steel, bro.
So they're so heavy that they broke Rita's back.
Yeah, it was the plane ride that hurt Rita's back.
Pride that hurt Rita's back.
Rita disappeared into chat.
W's in the chat for Rita's back.
I think other side was also
a highlight, man. Just being able to run around
in the Nexus, that was pretty cool. And that still is like just watching it kind of grow and the community really
grabbing a hold of it that i think that that's one of the biggest highlights for crypto for sure
all started with just actually kind of some bubbles in a dream you know i was i actually
got to host the bubbles like for one of the first ones that they did for the community. That was pretty cool.
And then to see how far it's come.
It's pretty interesting, man.
I just think 2026 is going to be an amazing year for the other side, you know?
So you're dropping the Gimbos on the 24th or something like that?
Or wait, it has to be a Sunday.
So the 25th of January or something like that?
It's open-ended right now, bro.
Let me get mine right now.
How many of the white lists do you have?
I've got two white lists, list but i also got two runestones
so oh nice yeah like i know you you can add more than one runestone to it and i was like uh
do you like i thought about like you know giving one away or whatever or gifting it and then you
know putting two runestones on one gimbo you know yeah because i know like the more runestones you
have the proper like i know i'm not gonna mind i have the strongest guy but at least he ain't just got one you know or do i get
a set to have run around well we well we have um so the the cool thing about it is is the like all
of those items are actual nfts that you can like send around around and do stuff with on the platform or you could just send
them to anyone and then so like there's limited amounts of them right so there's only ever going
to be 500 runestones so as the platform scales those are going to be I think more valuable too
so like you might just want to hold that you know because there's only 500 um and we have already 2,000
and imagine when we get that
I would just hold them to be honest,
they have attributes where they can give you higher referral rate,
basically superpower your gimbal as well.
Yeah. I need, I need to go there too, man.
Also, I have some crazy MFers in my group.
Like Hydra Animation, he's been also playing a lot.
So absolutely love to see it.
And yeah, you're also part of that banter campaign, right?
Yeah, that's cool. that banter campaign, right? So yeah, that's cool.
The banter campaign is cool.
I know a lot of people have been trying to like farm that.
A lot of people have been doing like the weekly stuff.
NGB has been actually hitting some blackjack hands.
I've been seeing him go in there, bro.
It's kind of cool to be able to watch people play too.
You know, I like watching other people's games.
That's like one of the things that I think is kind of cool. You can kind of like scroll around and see what people are Yeah
If you want to play the video of the it is creepy games it's winning because like
Replay features that replay feature is awesome
Yeah, well, that's the thing like since it's all on-chain, like, we literally, every game is just stored on-chain forever.
So, like, there's never a game that you can't go back on.
So, it's like, every time you do a game, it's all an on-chain event.
So, like, this is also, like, a thing that, I think when, as we get a little bit bigger, people are going to understand why the product is, like, really fucking cool.
we get a little bit bigger, people are going to understand why the product is like really fucking
cool is because it uses web, like it uses crypto. Obviously it's, it's, you know, it's games of
chance. So there, there's always risk, right? Like you can, you can lose your money to someone else
because we don't hold any of the money. Right. But I think that, so this is the way that I look
at it. And this is why we created the platform. Number one, I think that if something has product market fit, like gambling or games of chance in crypto,
then why are 95% of the casinos completely centralized and black boxes of data, right?
So what we wanted to do, we think that it's actually a narrative that people don't even realize is sticky yet,
You saw privacy became this really sticky narrative.
Our decks are all decentralized, right?
Our perp decks are going decentralized.
Why, why aren't the biggest, um, gaming platforms decentralized, like fully
decentralized and trustless, you know?
So that's kind of the, um, the longterm scope on it, you know?
And also task shared in comments that he or she has uh
17 gimbals that's not bad that's not bad uh love to see that guys if you haven't tried it
check ape church uh i don't know if i have a code like grateful i don't know what's the
the name of the code you can use it or you can just join. Definitely check it out.
Bro, you should be sharing that link, man.
There's one guy, that guy, APB.
He's got like 140 people in his referral network already.
So, yeah, it's good, man.
And whenever somebody plays in your network, you automatically get credited a portion of their...
It literally happens in real time. So it's cool. You can literally say, hey Coco, use my link.
Okay, I go play 1008. As soon as I play, you get credited and you can claim that.
So referral maxing idm ngb if apeco can bet a hundred million ape
coin using my ref link you know he didn't reply so w in the chat it's big i'm kidding i'm kidding
guys i'm kidding guys maybe send it to the orange uh guy lost yeah I'll try that one I'll try that one
oh seems like seems like Coco dropped hello I'm here no it's my internet my
internet keeps cutting out what did you say something no I just said before did
it I said to NGB if apeco can can actually use my ref link and bet 100 million Apecoin on RET.
So they can double or I can win a lot of money also, right?
Oh, I got some cool stats.
So we just passed 15 million eight wagered
that's 3 million 60 000 uh on the platform which is cool and the house is at an all-time high
uh of almost 2.5 million ape which is over half a million five hundred and six thousand of decentralized liquidity from like
i think 400 people staking so pretty good man considering you know we're still on month one
so let's cook let's cook man let's cook love it love it we love builders guys uh we of course
need a lot of builders a lot of good
stuff on ape chain so yeah keep keep cooking guys keep cooking that's the that's the alpha 100%
and uh tino uh probably last question so you wrote down your 125 highlights of 2025. Any other point of views on that year that you use
to actually summarize that year, to learn more from that year, to
get ready? I usually don't think much about years like I'm going to do
massive change in 2026, right? It's more like an evolution, but
it's a great time to actually look back
and think about what you want to change a little bit, you know, set the direction and stuff.
So how do you approach it?
Yeah, bro. Perfect question.
And, you know, I'm pretty crazy about this stuff.
And, you know, like for me, it's all about habits.
And basically, Atomic Habits is a very simple book
that everybody should read and I think it makes so much sense
because most of the people approach that like,
oh man, beginning of the year, I'm going to quit smoking,
start exercising, doing this and that and that.
No, but we talk about it a lot.
And my number one rule is always one habit at a time.
So basically, just choose one as soon as it really becomes a regular, becomes a habit.
Then start putting more, you know, like other ones and so on.
And I think this is the number one mistake.
space but in general in life so you know it's uh it it really depends what uh how everybody wants
to approach it but I think this is the such a simple thing to do just start with one stick to
it and you know consistency we keep talking about it so much uh already today on the show consistency
uh that's you know that that's the loud thing it's not the strength it's uh it's how consistent
you are how uh how long can you can you hold you know and i think this is the number one thing and
i know you are very similar in that approach uh as i am also in other things like biohacking and stuff like that and and exercising
and and sports basically and uh that that tells a lot about how you approach uh life in general and
how you approach web3 as well how you approach building how you approach entrepreneurship
and I think uh this I don't want to uh turn this into my TED talk as uh Machiavelli says but uh
I think this is uh this is number one thing that
not to start with too many things at once because you most likely won't stick
too many of them some people do but most people won't how about you man how do you
approach this I 100% agree with that one man I was thinking about new hobbies that I want to start.
So smoking, drinking, and gambling.
And I will go... No, I'm kidding.
I have a friend who started smoking,
who had a first cigarette when he was 35.
No, man, we go step by step. really believe that we will have a plenty of opportunities to
build in the other side in 2026 and uh new avatars are coming uh daniel airsh uh them tell me the
name bro i always forget it man yeah daniel arsham yes that guy oh my god i can't wait to actually
buy that avatar and we have incredible builders here on stage and in the audience also.
Guys, this space wouldn't be the same without you.
So every time you're doubting yourself and you're like, hey, fuck it, I'm quitting.
Trust me, people see what you're doing, right?
They don't have to maybe send you DMs or maybe you send them DMs and they don't reply.
We have so many DMs. Don't be mad DMs and they don't reply. It's fine. We have so many
DMs. Don't be mad about it. But keep going. Keep going. I think other side is actually a great place
to chat with other people. And during other games, if you send someone DM and they didn't reply,
you can catch them in the other side and tell side and tell them right because dms are crazy but
want to create a little bit more content
next year and i will try to
other side will play a huge role in that
we're gonna we're gonna keep cooking
i want to say it out loud because i also have one goal that I set myself at ApeFest regarding my Web3 journey.
As you know, I'm running a streetwear brand, so I'm doing basically a Web2 brand.
And as I talked about it today already, I think I found my space in the space.
And I really feel that there is one thing that I really, really want to do.
And that is a collaboration with somebody in space with a specific product that I have in mind.
I don't want to share more, but I just want to say it out loud because it's kind of manifesting.
And I think this is going to happen, uh, by the next eight past, uh,
and you have infitor and brand bro, like infi diapers. That's incredible product.
Coco, I'll, I'll send you some, you'll, you'll be my first opinion leader, man.
I'm ready. I'm ready. Hold on. What you're going to send him to diapers or
diapers? No, the first opinion leader, man. I'm ready. I'm ready. Hold on. What you going to send him to diapers or diapers?
the diaper opinion leader.
I thought Coco's order is four years,
She just started walking. Actually actually she's like taking her first
steps so that's pretty cool i started walking when i was 15 so damn she's ahead man yeah
yeah bro so yeah you're you're right uh that's uh that's the direction that I'm taking. I want to create a really fucking cool product
with Infitorium brand together with somebody.
If this happens, it's going to be wild.
Yeah, and I know I have idea what it's going to be.
So it's going to be crazy.
It's not Internet Cafe, but I have some good Internet here
and I will have to leave in like five minutes.
Because I didn't want to risk.
Did you say internet cafe?
I don't know how you call it.
You're such a millennial, bro.
They have, they have great internet here, but I will have to leave in like 745, which is in like five.
It's called McDonald's, bro.
I'm in the mountains, bro.
It's crazy it's crazy but
before we wrap it up i want to thank everybody who was part of this or who has been part of
this journey because this year was insane as rita mentioned ups downs you know sideways
whatever happened it was crazy but yeah we have a high beer so let's get hype here and then i'll
finish my sentence because hype is also, of course,
part of this journey. Aqua on top.
Hype, what up, man? Do you want to share anything?
Any 2025 highlights, lessons, challenges, or whatever happened?
Honestly, not much. I mean, obviously, there's a lot of legends on stage.
A lot in the crowd. I mean, to keep it brief, I mean, joining Ape Chain this year was
amazing. Getting to meet a lot of you guys, IRL, at Ape Fest for the first time. A lot of guys I've
respected in this space for a very long time, just being able to join the club and seeing the
progression of everything that's happened the last, you know, eight, 10 months between,
obviously, other side to Ape Church development remember meeting coco you know with ape express
and even through bnb um and just like everybody else in the crowd like i said a lot of the people
that are in this room i mean i have a lot of different moments with them and individually
and and as part of like other games and even my own projects so i just you know to use your name
i'm grateful for being here and being able to join an ecosystem that's really thriving
in my opinion no matter where we're at with with the price of the coin. I think that the one biggest
thing I can take away from this year is just definitely the experiences and all the memories.
So, you know, 2026 is going to be a big year, I feel, with a lot of us in the space. And
I said it on MySpace yesterday, you know, I feel like there's going to be a lot of new people that
come into the ecosystem next year as well. They're gonna be people we talk about
next year at the end of the year, right? So, but
I want to thank you and Tino for always
welcoming me on stage and obviously getting to meet you guys
IRL. Obviously, you know,
Rita, it was great finally meeting you in person and
I know we go back and forth in banter, but
you know, I respect you so much in terms of what you've done for
this ecosystem and who you are as a person. So
I appreciate you and getting to meet you IRL
and of course, you know, Mac and the rest of the guys,
you know, from other games,
just being able to come together with these guys
from spaces to actually being present as other games
and being able to host many, many communities
in other side and, and cherishing those moments.
Like I said, you know, it's been five months,
but every moment I think we can recapture and relive.
So yeah, I just appreciate everybody.
Like I said, it's been a great year
and I'm looking forward to 26.
Let's go, man. I think it's going to be a year off the other side, 100%. I also see the gop father in the audience. Maybe one more thing before we wrap it up, guys.
I shared on timeline, I don't know how you call that move but uh when you jump in zelda or
tomb raider or all these games right like you can hang and lift up uh makavel do you think this is
coming to the other side in 2026 or we don't want it i would love to speculate on that but i would
also like to remind everybody that uh the one-year ab gabbaversary the one-year gobaversary is coming up for the gobs on ape.
So make sure you go to the gobs on ape page and set a reminder.
And let's bring all the gobs in for the gobaversary.
And I think I bought my first one just like a few weeks ago.
Agreement, no royalties, no promises.
He's already given them the world.
And again, really grateful for everyone here on stage in the audience.
such a crazy ride in 2025.
maybe? I don't know. It's gonna be
You know what I'm saying?
Rita, are you already in 2026?
Bro, in Dubai, they are in like 2035 already, bro.
Rita, answer your telegram after we get off the space, bro.
Yeah, Rita, he's not offering deals, bro. But answer your telegram after we get off the space, bro. I know you're
was wild, bro. I know. It's always
wild. I love calling you when you're drunk.
I love having meetings with you when you've been drinking
for like four hours. They're really
productive, you know? Those are the best meetings.
I woke up this morning and I said, do you find my
message? I said, please, I don't
remember what I promised and what I'm supposed
I guess we'll have another meeting
to go over the exact same thing again.
Too late. I'm already just starting
Hey, grateful, I want to do something
Is this your last show before the new year?
Hey, I'm gonna give you some scratch cards
And I want you to just give them out to your community
Whenever you want to do it
You don't have to do it right now, I know if you guys are wrapping up the space
Talk to some people Get some people, get some people,
give them some scratch cards. I'll send them to you.
Just so you can reward your community and stuff.
Thank you so much, bro. I will 100% do that.
Shout out to 8church. Today I logged into 8church. I had, I think,
18-8. I opened the diamond box and I did a scratch card.
I did not even play one game.
Bro, that girl, oh my god.
Valerie just hit another 500x, bro.
Bro, I'm just looking at the tag right now.
The odds on that are so crazy.
By the way, the alpha definitely.
She's probably Mark's sister girlfriend no bro she's
hit two of those in two days like you know what the odds on that are that's insane bro i think
it has that has something to do with the emperor bro how did she hit a 500x two days in a row it
might be like you know if you're using any ai or anything like that, it's like, oh, it has just a memory. Let's just recreate that greatness again.
That's like a 49,000% fucking...
Bro, she put up 4-8 in one 2008.
I'll be watching your account.
Hey, Plinko has gotten me two Gimbos, one Gimbo whitelist.
I mean, thank you, Ape Church.
I'm sorry i know that like the the odds of her hitting that two days in a row is just like blows my mind bro that's like he hit a one in
she hit a one in five like that's the odds on that are just blow my mind that she hit that two days
in a row i have no i have no idea well you know one
of the funniest moments last week when you guys were talking about mark was mentioning the updates
to plinka with a thousand x with the the high high risk i was on the other side i told gspot i'm like
yo they're gonna be doing updates like what do you mean i'm like they're gonna be doing a thousand x
he ran away from me so fast bro so the thing is is the cool thing about the house being decentralized is is the bigger the
house gets the bigger the jackpots can get so like if the house doubles from here then the
jackpots double as well you know so like yeah it's pretty cool system
anyways i'm kind of in shock that she hit that two days in a row bro that's crazy
i will try to blows my mind i will try to rewatch and learn uh how to do that and uh be careful
before before you do i want to remind everybody go and claim the badge op.xyz the code is slash claim and the code is happy 2026. Is it grateful?
And I think this is the way how we do reward our listeners, our community,
because grateful keeps picking people and sending them stuff from the batch holders.
And how many NFTs did we give a giveaway uh last show like 50 or
something yeah a lot of ape coin nfts everything and guys i will pick um i will check how many
cards i got and i will pick you from the badge holders and i will send you those cards and
because open page allows to see your twitter so i I will go to the DMs, get your Ape Church address and I will send them to you.
So let's fucking go, guys.
Yeah, I know Rita, I hear him already cooking, but Hype, is there anything else you would love to share?
Because we will have to slowly wrap it up because they are kicking me out of this place, man.
no i mean oh shit i didn't know i didn't know i was unmuted sorry sorry no worries bro i i actually
Oh shit, I didn't know I was unmuted.
heard what you were cooking and i i know what's the first uh drop in the other side in 2026 uh
by rita and inceptive studio he's making tea bro he's making no no no no no no i am not making
it was like a morse code it was was a Morse code and I translated that.
Yeah, maybe I watched too many Stranger Things,
but can't wait, Rita, for that.
Grateful, real quick, before we go,
I want to know, because I haven't heard in a while,
Some people can claim the badge.
It's like a happy ending, but instead of ending, the badge happy 2026 it's like a happy ending but instead of ending you put their 2026 yep claim the badge guys and i will pick the winners and i will send you the
cards the scratch cards because of ape church and coco Big shout to our sponsor today. Of course, the biggest sponsor is Amp. He's going to be sending 100,000 Ape Coins to us soon. But guys, what a great year. Big shout
to Jubrel for creating such incredible badges. Big shout to everyone joining us here today or
through the year. We are really grateful for that. And trust us, we're going to keep pushing through 2026
and it's going to be an even better year for everyone.
And it's not going to be just luck or coincidence.
It's going to be by hard work that everyone is putting in.
So big shout out to everyone.
Of course, Machiavelli Hype and other games,
RIDA and everyone who's here in the audience.
We really appreciate all the support.
And we're back on Tuesday.
With a 2026 kickoff episode.
So big shout out to everyone.
Have a great end of the year.
I need to go to the other side to finish my daily tasks.
So don't forget about that.
Thank you for the support, guys.
And happy new year, my friends.
Happy new year, everybody.
And we're going to make 2026 special.
Yeah, with my crazy setup here, I also should have a song.
So let's see if it works.
And yeah, this was the last episode of 2025.
We hit 97 episodes in the year.
A lot of Ape Chain, Ac other side builders community those were the
the keywords uh big shout to you if you want to be here just hit the dm if i'm not replying because
it went to request folder see me on the other side or dm rida and tell rida to tell me to to
reply back or machiavelli or i don't know whatever you want send feedbacks something will
work but we here for you guys to support
you to amplify what you've been doing
of winning that it's gonna be even more crazy
I'm kidding but it's gonna be
funnier trust me can't wait
and see you in 2026, guys.
And now I need to find the...
427. Let's fucking go, everybody.
127. Let's fucking go, everybody.
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It's time to fall with this bud and it's different to the Earth in the middle of the universe.
Why is this first number six time rehearsed?
For freestyle, I'm not successful.
We need some screens controlled by the fiends.
We're all in all this shit I'm seeing?
You know what the fiends scream at Jokufu's reality?
I'm wondering if y'all got my ass running with prices and all those prices.
Hey, you think they'll do a nice's. Check them heckle-off-pay-law-ice's.
Howdy now I can see you in the head.