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Angel Hour w Dojo3
Recorded: April 10, 2025 Duration: 0:56:01Space Recording
Short Summary
Exciting developments are underway in the crypto gaming space as Dojo Free prepares to launch its innovative prediction game on the mainnet, coupled with an NFT collection set to debut in May. The conversation highlights the growing trend of gamification in trading, the vibrant community in Asia, and strategic partnerships that are shaping the future of Web3.
Full Transcription
Music Thank you. Can you guys hear the music or is that just me?
Is Twitter doing that thing again?
You can't hear it?
Give me a thumbs up if you can actually hear the music.
No, you could not.
Great.
Okay, awesome.
Let me add some speakers.
Hi, guys.
Welcome to Angel Hour.
Make sure to share the space with your friends or enemies, random strangers. Hey, how's it going?
Good, good, good. Just finished the streaming with Nat and Rumi on that front.
My dog is running across a parking lot.
And it's one of those days where it's like you're trying to do a million things and you don't realize what you had scheduled at the same time.
And I forgot that she had a groomer appointment, but here we are.
So that's that.
So we're going to hang out in the parking lot and have a great space. And welcome,
Dojo. I haven't got a chance to meet you yet. And for anybody else in the crowd, this is Dyla
on chain, who's behind the account. I'm the women's community leader for Abstract.
And this is the official women's community. And we host Angel Hour twice a week. We do
Tuesdays and Thursdays. Nancy hosts a space on Wednesday for Angels.
And yeah, so like I said, make sure you're sharing the space with your friends, your enemies, random strangers in the street.
Break into your neighbor's house. Tell them to join the space.
And Dojo, let's get started while the room fills up a little more. Why don't you tell me a little bit about yourself and give me the quick TLDR.
I'm all not going to say.
Yes, yes, yes.
Hey, good to see you.
I wish I could met you.
It's a good night here.
It's like 11 p.m.
And I hope you have a good start of the day.
What time is it on your side?
It is 10 a.m here
oh like what's the weather is it good where are you where are you now right now i'm like outside
of chicago so the weather is not good it's it's drizzling rain and so i have yeah so um and like
i said my dog was kind of like scampering across uh trying to scamper across the parking lot and
make a break for it while trying to start the space.
Gigi's to Stella
for trying to get away.
Not today.
All right.
All right.
Interesting.
Interesting.
It's a good weather today.
I'm now in Hong Kong.
we're finishing the
weffy rest
with the past
with fellows
Pumpty fam here.
It was like yesterday,
it was like crazy,
you know,
wrap up party for the day.
And like we were being, you know,
going around to people like around 12.
And then I got to have one space yesterday
at 1 a.m. so I got to go back.
Anyway, now I'm here.
So this is Edwin, by the way,
Edwin behind Dojo Free, the co-founder of the game.
So, I mean, Dojo Free did make it short.
It's like a prediction playground, a prediction game that is built to have fun.
You can just come in to play the game.
It's already on mainnet, we're in a testing phase at the moment.
People just come in, you can bet on a token in one minute time.
There are like a track of five different tokens each round.
You can bet like two of them will win when they have the highest you know market price growth uh during one minute window if you bet white and you know you can get more game credit
so the game credit itself is like you you you purchase with ethereum and then you can get it
back you know withdraw you know basically it's like how the bet works and um yeah and basically
it can you can also play with points and uh if you first log in there will be 500 game credit
for you to play for free.
So if you're DJing enough, it's actually, you don't have to spend that money to play.
And there will be a ruffle ticket along the way.
So even if you're losing, you can actually have an upside from there.
So anyway, that's really too long. Sorry, I'm so sorry. I mean, I mean, I thought too much.
Alright, let's talk more.
No, don't be sorry at all. So, I mean, if you're gamifying this and you're talking about tokens,
I mean, the climate in Abstract right now has been very token strong.
So how are you feeling about that with a game that's kind of like a prediction market?
I think, yeah, you're right.
I mean, it's getting strong, you know.
And especially, I think, last night, you know, I mean, yesterday. Yesterday is, you know, everything like when Trump just said something out of, you know, somewhere, it just go back.
Everything just go back normal or like extremely abnormal. But it's good to see everyone coming back rebounding strong. It's a good fight here.
And we're just talking about yesterday, you know, with the team, like, shall we change our game mechanism?
Because what we're doing is, like, you know, letting people to bet on which one goes up the team, like, shall we change our game mechanism because what we're doing is letting people
to bet on which one goes up the most, right?
We're talking about to change it
to which token goes down the most.
We've been debating,
and the dev is telling us,
please, no, it's bad, right?
Yeah, but anyway, I think the vibe is good here,
and we're seeing all the F-Trap project here
doing good.
And actually, I talked to all the other games who are doing prediction type of things as well and i mean
i like that you know like roach uh you know uh i mean did their multi-part they're all doing very
good you know i really like to see you know i did discuss with some collab with them i think
this is essential like producing game it can be fun and it can also be a way like to to make it
less you know stressful in training and also sometimes it can be educational, right?
So I think it's the right thing to do here, and good to see the market vibe here.
And yeah, so I appreciate everybody here. Just come to play our game. You don't spend that money. Just come in and play, all right?
Yeah, for sure. I feel like Abstract has had a really big influence on the gamification of trading, you know, where the fun chain. So I'm seeing a lot of success with these other games that I really haven't seen traction with on other chains.
idea of like yeah for trading tokens let's not hang out in the trenches and just kind of like
you know pump and dump on each other let's actually add like a gaming experience to it
and um i mean you're part of abstract asia too you guys have quite the strong community which
i constantly have fomo over because i'm so far i never get to enjoy like the activities out there
have you had a chance to connect with the community IRL out there?
Yeah, basically because I'm also from Asia.
I would say like we can make it a separate topic because people always say that Asia, the bonding is strong.
Asia, the vibe is good.
I mean, I feel that as well.
So I basically connect everybody on AppTrap and Asia.
I know, you know, each of them.
And everybody is so active, you know.
They're so passionate. You can
literally see them everywhere, like online, offline, on the stream, and then on the events.
And that's really good because I think that's the vibe we have in Asia. And I hope to see
more like around like after Andrew. I know you guys are doing a lot of good things here and and and yeah but but anyway so i feel like you know i really you know enjoy you know talking to everybody
around and especially those who really on after asia yes they're crazy they've been streaming all
the day you know they've been going on x all the time when i hop on the space i could literally see
each of them every time so um that's good and we have people you know, from Korea, you know, from Hong Kong
and then from Malaysia,
from Singapore,
you know,
from Japan.
So it's really good,
you know,
because it covers
a lot of,
like,
different regions.
And I hope that,
you know,
sooner or later
there will be,
like,
global.
Then we have,
like,
each of the fellows
from each of the,
you know,
cities coming out
to talk,
you know,
to mingles
and that would be super nice right bro you and me both you have no idea how much FOMO I have
with all the abstract Asia things going on because the community is so strong and
there are so many great projects coming out of Asia what what is up with that like I feel like
a lot of the big creative energy is is coming
out of that um that area especially the gaming like what what is influencing that for you
I think essentially like um when we talk about gaming is a lot of like all these good you know
game guilds and and and like like all the strongest you know power or population in terms of gaming and also web-free gaming,
essentially come from Asia.
So if you're looking into what's happening on SX Infinity, like back three years ago,
essentially a lot of gamers are from Philippines, from Southeast Asia.
And even if you look into China, there's a lot of gamers.
So if you look into some statistics like mobile gaming,
essentially number one is Japan uh essentially the number one is
japan and then the second one is china right so there's a a lot of like these asia part and not
to mention korea korea is also up and rising you see a lot of like pretty nice game coming out from
korea so it's also part of the way because you look into like all these like ecosystem or like
tools we're using on this card you know on x there's such uh actually there's a lot of like
population of people they're actually
from asia so when when you know all these fellows who really come out you know stand out to to do
streaming you know talk about abstract all that type of games you actually is easier to to to to
you know to to inference those people who already in asia playing games or that they're on the
referee space they just i mean so i think that is pretty much the hot reason of it, the root of why Asia is getting
so much, I would say FOMO is so much more popular or like the people being more active around.
But I see, you know, the fact is that if you look into streaming, essentially a lot of people around
in Europe or like in another, you know, say like Western part of the world, essentially,
they're also pretty popular. And some of them are even more active than those who are in Asia.
So I would say a big shout out to all the fellows who've been showing strong on AdShred
and also showing the games in Iran.
And as a builder myself, I really appreciate it because you just...
Not every time I'm asking you guys to help you, you're already doing that already.
So I feel like the vibe is here, especially on AdShred.
I'm really enjoying the vibe and fun here.
Yeah.
I mean,
the vibe of the community,
especially like the builder community is kind of,
is kind of unmatched.
How long have you been in the space,
by the way,
and building because abstract itself is new,
but I know for these games,
it takes a lot longer than the past few months to be able to build
something like this.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, you know, if you're talking about this space, it takes a lot longer than the past few months to be able to build something like this.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, if you talk about this space, we have in here for 15 minutes.
So I'm joking. So I mean, yeah, I have been in this space for quite a few years,
you know, suffering from trading, you know, making losses, you know, taking the lessons.
But if you talk about like building projects on Web3,
I think just probably around a year or something.
I've been doing, like a few years ago,
I've always been doing Web2 startup.
So if you look into my personal profile,
I'm actually telling myself where to begin.
So I know everything about startup.
I've been doing four startup before. I know i i fail one and then i you know
exit one and then the two of them are still running and uh i raised you know a few rounds of funding
from like you know we see the alibaba fund um so the point is like uh i've been building like
web free startup uh things like that last year and the reason i choose it is because um i i think
by the time like i've been doing long enough on things around creative economy, B2B stuff, I'm just getting bored of it.
I just want to build something really consumer-focused.
And I've always been doing games, print games all the time.
So I always want to build something about gaming.
And I don't want to go into hardcore gaming.
I just want to build something casual, fun.
And prediction is, I think,'s one of the engines because uh i remind myself like when i first doing trading i just wanted like i just
wish it to be easier you know a place where i can play which is the least stressful uh i don't don't
have to like you know learn so much lesson spending a lot to to actually get to there so i think
prediction game is the right way for me to do and And I think I first pitched to Luca in an event in Tolkien back last year.
And Luca kind of like, he agreed with me
in what we're seeing, like the consumer crypto focus,
and I agree with what he said.
So we literally just spring the game.
We always was thinking about Telegram.
We just moved away from Telegram,
all the way to AppShare.
I think that's the right way to do,
and no regret for now.
And we're testing the game at the moment, and on the main net AppShare. I think that's the right way to do. No regrets for now. And we're testing the game at the moment
and on the main net, of course.
And then we're hopefully launching
in around like two weeks time.
So let's see.
But anyway, I think that's how I come along,
you know, from a Web 2 degen
to a little bit more Web 3 small degen, I would say.
So that's me.
Well, that's cool.
So you're still in test net. Do you have a mint coming up? I've
seen some hints on the timeline about that. Are you going to drop some alpha for me or
what? Yeah, actually, we're already on MintNet, but we didn't announce yet because we're doing
some early testing with the crown on Discord. But the game is actually on MintNet already.
So if you like people coming in, they can actually mean all the badges that are from dodo free uh they can play the games they can they can buy the game credit you know
everything is already on mainnet so it's actually uh readily available we just haven't made the
you know public announcement on that uh so we can make a little bit more adjustment before we go
ahead um but anyway yeah for alpha uh there's a lot um you you you you mentioned nft yes uh we have like a collection
of a thousand something uh after collection coming out in may on magic even the launch pad
and uh we actually you probably see like we have to collab um with like bearish and uh nude and and
and and ygg and and uh you know other other other road racing and gancher and there's a
actually a lot of pipeline of collab coming out
for the NFT whitelist.
And I guess it's just around
a thousand of them.
The price is low.
We want to make it worth
to make sure that we bring in
all the friends' projects,
all the active projects,
all the fellows
coming to enjoy the vibe,
the game with us.
And the NFT itself,
the price will be very affordable we just want to
make it easy uh as a kind of like the biggest utility for the nft itself is to give more earning
for users who's dead in the game so that will be like one uh it will be the affiliate you know
income if you refer more people coming in that will be extra incentive and second there will be
like the incentive xp points the points will have a
boost if you hold the nft there and there will be like additional workflow ticket if you're holding
nft so that will be there i'll say a more utility focus uh but the design itself i i can say it will
be you know very good uh because we already designed like a list of like custom pfp for
all the friends around us so if you guys want it you know just let me know me know. I wish to design, you know, one for you guys as well.
Well, you know, it's crazy.
You mentioned all these awesome, super partnerships for whitelist and everything.
And nowhere did I hear Abstract Angel.
So that's so crazy to me.
So we're going to have to fix that.
No pressure, but this is a recorded space.
So this is how I do pressure people in the beginning of the whitelist.
Yeah. I like to just ambush people live you know I think that's the best tactic
to support really well for me so far.
You're doing the right way.
I'm not here doing God's work for the community.
Somebody's got to do it.
We got to do it, right?
We are the forefront of the project, of the community.
We got to do whatever we necessarily do to make sure everybody, you know, stay fun, stay happy, stay, you know, stay together.
I think, you know, this is the right spirit.
Like I talked to, you know, I talked to soldiers last week, like when he has the crisis there. I just told him, like, you know, bro, show up, you know I talked to you so just last week like when he has the crisis there I just told
him like your bro Joe you know uh because I've been my my use I used to have my right to start
up being hacked before I told him I've been there before you know just stay strong you know say say
say no to all those fucker or those hackers because sorry I didn't say that language right
it's okay I'm surprised yeah I mean I'll drop five f-f-f-f-f-fFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF It doesn't matter. I mean, people is the most important. So we're going to do whatever we need to make sure all the fans, all the customers, all the users stick around.
I recall the hacking incident.
I probably would speak more like I was doing the B2B startup, like the SaaS software or something like KITO.
And then one of the testing portals got leaked.
And then the hacker gets some unnecessary testing information, which is believed to be the sensitive, customer information.
So we received some bad mail
and then we've been taking that seriously.
We consult lawyer and then we consult the technical team,
including we call AWS to talk about that, everything.
And then at the end of the day, we didn't compromise
because we believe those data are not,
you know, the essential part of this,
kind of like internet security
and it's not privacy related.
And we didn't compromise with it.
So we didn't even reply to the hacker.
So he'd been sending email, I think like countdown, like 24 hours, like six hours, and then two
hours, one hour, like 20 seconds.
I don't know.
And then we just didn't do it.
And then it just disappeared.
So I think it doesn't matter.
Just stay strong with what you believe and stay sharp with the community. I think all the customers, they will know, right? So that's
what I would say. Sorry. Yeah, no, we actually talked about this in a space before, probably
earlier this week, how the community in Abstract has kind of become a hedge against scammers,
against just like shady stuff, because we tend to keep each other informed a lot more
than I've seen in other communities. Are you finding that same thing? Because I see a lot
more projects and even tokens looking out for each other as opposed to it just being like PVP
or everybody seeing each other as competition. I think back to three months ago, I've been
talking to projects. I'm calling them one by one and doing calls.
I told them I want to build kind of like a can of events together with other builders.
I was saying like, even the first thing I call, I find all the prediction projects,
prediction game project.
I told them like, hey, bro, I like your ideas.
Sister, I like your ideas.
So can we do a collab if I'm making kind of like a Mecca events events like a quest event or like you know uh some some sort of things like that would you guys be you know
who want your support together and everybody say yes so i think that's you know the differences
if you go into things like other i won't say other chain or other ecosystem okay or like even
you go back to web tools people see each other as a competitor so what you do is that you try to you
know not to say bread mouth out brown bread mouth others So what you do is that you try to, you know, not to say bread mouth others,
but probably you will say
that you don't want to collab with others.
But you know, you see all the builders
who you've been there,
you just yellow shout out like,
oh, I need some help.
You know, I want to collab with somebody else.
We just help.
I mean, I would just also help.
So and sometimes every each time of the call
I have with other builders,
the last question I ask is like,
which project you want to connect?
I will see if I can get you there.
If not, I will ask around for you.
I mean, I think that's the spirit here.
If you are really, you know,
being generous and helpful to others,
people will know.
And I think it's not just me, you know,
saying I'm good.
It's like everybody here around
are doing the same thing.
So that's why I think two days ago,
like I think last week when Noob said like,
they want to do a kind of like a hacker form, right? And he said he needs some sponsor. And I channeled the marketing budget, I think. week when Noob said they want to do a hacker form, right?
He said he needs some sponsor.
And I channel the marketing budget, I think.
All right, let's do it.
All right, let's just tell him within two hours, I'm saying, okay, I'm going to do it.
I'll support you.
Because I think it's okay for us to do.
And at the same time, we will help them.
They will be doing something good for the community.
And I see he's already cooking something really nice, right?
So I think, you know,
after it's like the spirit gift,
like probably because of Luca
and also because of the team behind that,
you know, shifting the culture.
And I feel like this is the right way to do,
to be more like collaborative.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, I've seen a lot of,
I've seen a lot of focus on educating each other,
whether that's in different chats or
even projects like Saw Bearish, they were teaching people how to vibe code. I don't even know what
that is, but I wanted to learn because I have no idea. But it is cool to see other projects and
other communities kind of taking advantage of that and being able to say, hey, the market is crap.
And if, you know, if we don't use this kind of all rising tide lifts
all boats mentality, then then we all sink and we all fail. And abstract release has seemed to kind
of grasp that. So I don't want to add reels to say hi. Hey, reels.
Um, hey, Reels.
Had him sitting.
Of course, of course you call on me when I'm, you know, when I'm posting something, when I'm, you know what I mean, when I'm trying to cook and, you know what I mean, you know, repost the space, like wiping your feet when you come in somebody's house.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
I can't come in here and just start immediately dropping.
It's like the waitress coming to the table when you have a mouthful of food. It's like the waitress coming to the table and you have a mouthful of food asking you if the food's okay. start immediately dropping big DG energy unless you want me to.
It's like the waitress coming to the table and you have a mouthful of
food asking you if the food's okay?
Yeah, it's fine. It's delicious. I'm like
deep-throating it right now. Oh, sorry. Can I say that
in the space?
Yeah, yeah. We're all family.
No worries.
I mean, this is a family table. Everybody's
reaching across, you know, to grab whatever
food is, shoving it in our mouth.
We're all family.
I'm in my natural habitat.
I love it.
How do you like my map?
I've changed my fro.
Yes, my fro, my locks, my lovely locks have been replaced by my map with my OMB eyes.
That's right.
I cannot be stopped.
I'm like Viva.
I'm everywhere.
And I come with abstract.
Never a dull moment with reels ever.
It feels like a teaser.
But Dojo, I did want to get back to you
because before we started this space,
you said you were streaming,
you just hopped off a live streamer.
You're doing a lot of live streaming
and what are you streaming
when you're streaming?
All right, actually, I'm not a streamer,
but I've been doing creative stuff.
So I used to like, you know,
jump into some of the stream
with other creators.
Like, I mean, the web2 creators, really. I mean, I mean, do stuff with them, you know, because I have to help them do a lot of things.
And occasionally I'll be, you know, appearing there and people know me.
So I literally know quite a number of YouTubers around, you know, in Asia and, and, and yeah, because I was doing creative platform, right.
So I know a lot of them.
So I know a lot of them.
And then, and also because I'm doing B2B startup.
And also because I'm doing B2B startup.
So I think during COVID time, I've been doing all the live streaming events on Zoom, you know, hosting the webinar, all sort of things.
So I kind of used to it, but I know I haven't been doing it like two, three years time, two years, I mean.
And when I just do it now, I feel like, oh, good old days again.
And I was just like getting out of control.
I've been, you know, playing the games and talking to the host and looking to the comment.
And then I was like, you know,
telling me like which token to pick in the game,
you know, to bet on.
And then I was just so crazy.
I mean, it reminded me of the good old days
where I was doing like all this, you know,
online events.
Yeah.
So, but anyway, I think, you know,
streaming is definitely one of the good things around
because I think I talked to like Kevin Lin yesterday
in a private event that
that i've been asking him like how do you feel about uh you know um uh uh uh the things that
on web3 happening and streaming that he was doing on tweet and then also how he feel about abstract
chain and he said he liked the ideas he liked the direction they're going to and he but of course
he said you're going to be a rough
journey because this takes time right but uh what i feel is like this is the right thing doing on streaming and we bring the real customer here consumer here and and i think uh i really bullish
on this of course it takes some time but at least if you're making fun to the real people who really
want to have fun go around and and same thing so what we're doing on
space i think it's just like getting a little bit layer on whistle which is much easier for people
you know to to internet as well yeah you know back in the day i used to be like a straight up discord
dog i love to spend like most of the day in discord and you know it was different when you
could hang out in like vcs and like in the Discord and just chat.
And the streaming experience with Abstract feels like that feeling again.
I'm not in Discord, like as I am where servers have just gotten way too complicated.
And I'm a simple, simple creature.
But when I find when I'm on stream or watching streams, it gives me that feeling of like back in the day when we just kind of used to hang out.
And that like that beginning of like, oh, wow, we're really building a community and
making friends and kind of connecting in a way that that still feels kind of personal and not
like I'm just shilling a game or I'm just, you know, doing something that's really dry to get
engagement, especially, you know, with the tipping, getting to tip people
or whatever, you know, like send them love on the, on the screen. That's, that's pretty awesome.
So like, who are your favorite streamers to watch? Do you watch a lot of streams? I gotta be honest,
I don't watch a ton of streams myself. So I like to be put on to whoever, to whatever everybody
else likes to check out new stuff. Yeah, i think i probably i would like leon and dan
because these guys are for me you know so far i see the the most i would say the general like
they kind of like a bit crazy on sometimes the things they do like amazing backflips
i do i haven't i i should see that right you know they they do like like scratching like a
thousand of the cats you know gancher cats out there like these are all the craziest idea but you know they this is all
you know how how the good you know streamer go famous you know to do the do the things that
people amaze while them i think just like you know this uh shows we see was here in hong kong right
so i i think that is the things that you want to see on streamer they're doing something really
really out of your finger of your boss but you you to see on stream. They're doing something really, really out of your, thing out of your boss,
but you kind of like it because they're fun,
they're interactive, you know,
they have a sense of humor.
They do things that you don't do
so you can have fun and enjoy, you know, watching at home, right?
So that's the right way.
I mean, you know, like Leon, like Dan,
they've been doing good
and they know how to, you know,
interact with their audience as well.
And I think this is something a lot that, you know,
for everybody to learn, including me,
is like, you know, how to be there on stage, regardless of like, if it's a physical
event or offline event, how to make sure that people are listening to you in a way that
they feel fun and interactive, not just you been talking, but people are not having the
connection behind.
Yeah, for sure. Again, like, I feel like Web3 is a really weird place these days in general, and Abstract has felt like kind of like a shelter in the storm and in the shit storm that is the internet.
Like, I feel like even when the charts are read, I'm like, okay, I know that there's some project or some content here that I can, like, you know, distract myself with and sit in my delulu world
until my bags pump again um so that's it's kind of it it's it's kind of our little little shelter
from the storm here so um i love that um so we've talked about other projects that you have partnered
with what other are you holding any abstract nfts are you buying into other projects now i'm putting you on the spot okay okay i actually i i did have a few you know roll that wallet so you don't have to chat uh you
wouldn't know how we sure i hope but there are a few that i post uh i did have a caboo uh as a
bearish which i post perfectly uh i think for two reasons and um for for caboo because uh i think
like what i said just now because they are
in there kind of like the crisis just last week right so i don't know i just feel like i can do
a little bit support on that poster i mean i'm not a big inference guy here i'm not an influencer
uh but i think i can as a minimal you know support i want to get one and then support him
and i was what i didn't have like before honestly I wanted to have that, but I missed the window.
So I didn't really focus on that,
but I get one at that time.
I didn't mind the price.
I think it's okay, just get support from people.
And they will remember somebody who,
I mean, not just me,
I mean, they remember people being supporting them.
I just want to do that for kind of like a support to somebody.
I mean, if there's somebody else having any issues from there,
I also do that.
And the second thing is,
I get a bearish
because it's really bearish.
All right, I like the design.
That's my personal PFP,
so I love bearish.
Yeah, bearish design is so good.
And honestly,
I didn't have time to buy, honestly,
but when I chat out,
you know, people have been posting
all the GIFs on bearish,
it's like so cute.
And I felt like,
okay, let's try to buy one.
And then before I buy, I asked my friend, and said like uh yeah various committee so strong you can take a look and i say okay i can buy it right now i realized i and after i bought
i realized oh they've been doing so well in terms of like greeting new members and i jump onto the
discord i thought you know you know you know um carlo just come you know you know welcome
and things like i think these are these people are really good at doing community building and
they're also being very active i learned a lot from them so i don't regret buying this nmt because
they look good and at the same time the people behind is good so i think that's okay you know uh
it's not just the act itself behind i think it's more matters like i buy this for a reason because
of the people and I still believe that
it's always buying
and of course we're not buying the Asian art
that the artists are dead
and we're buying something that's really present
so I will treasure those who are really
good looking and at the same time
have a good concept or like the people behind it
so I will support them. If you ask me
I support people more than everything
unless the design is too shit but generally everybody's's design is good right otherwise they will be putting out
yeah anyway yeah i think there's i think there's more than i'm i think it there's more to supporting
other builders and and projects than just buying nfts um hot take i don't i find it a red flag
when somebody says i buy everything that comes out. To me, that's just like, they just want to show everybody.
It's like, look at me.
See, obviously, I'm invested in the system.
I'm buying all this stuff.
And I would much rather hear somebody say, hey, I don't buy everything.
But I do buy these because they support it.
And I'm still collabing with other projects.
But if it doesn't make sense to like you know be financially
invested in a certain ecosystem there's other ways to support another builder and um yeah you
passed my my little test because if you were like i but i meant everything i would have been like
damn dojo get off the stage you're over here um you know i didn't know it was a test. All right, I passed. Thank you.
It's a test
that she lets you know you passed after you passed it.
Right. She probably would have told you it was a test
if you failed it. She would have just kicked it.
I would have written you down in my
notebook,
in my no list, in my red flag
list. No, I don't have that much attention.
All right. Don't make a cripple on me, okay?
No, but again i mean
like you mentioned like bears they've been really phenomenal at building um community and i love how
to be honest i feel like they kind of like have been a big part of starting that wave of
projects collaborating so hard so um i think you can tell a lot about um people by the projects
they collaborate with and like a lot about projects who they collaborate with and you've
mentioned so many of my favorites so that that that's pretty that's pretty awesome but what do
you have coming up special give me some alpha here final bosuu. I'm going to get one.
This is so nice, right?
Dude, Bosu, like first of all, the team, phenomenal.
Did you do the whitelist experience, like the whole online game thing?
I give a try on that and it's super cool.
And I really want to get one and I hope I can and I will see.
But after all the design, you know, the theme,
everything they did is so cool.
Honestly, I feel a little bit,
sometimes a little bit even better than Asuki
because I don't know, I shouldn't say that,
but I feel like in some sense,
some part of it is actually even better.
I know I'm saying Asuki is better.
I mean, just some of the small part,
I feel the design or like the animation they did
is so nice.
And yeah, and I really i really you know when i first
go into the page the things that i experienced it's really nice i mean i mean did they all the
all the all the all the oh how to say that but anyway i mean the first thing here with the
website i was like quite short on that and i like that one a lot yeah i'm just hoping somebody like
redspa is like clipping that audio so we can send it to Kevin of Final Bosu
so that he can hear you say that Bosu is better than Azuki.
I mean, Bosu is better.
I mean, I didn't say that Bosu was better than Azuki.
You said that you believe Bosu was better than Azuki.
It's not in recording space.
Don't worry about it, though, bro.
I'll take the heat.
DJ said it.
It was DJ.
No, no, no.
I said it.
That's on me.
I mean, I said that.
All right.
But I like Azuki.
All right.
Peace group.
That's as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're not shading Azuki here.
I own an elemental.
Okay.
Don't fud my bags, bro.
Don't fud my bags.
Easy.
Easy.
Easy.
There's room at the top for a few of them.
You know what I mean?
A few of them.
Yeah.
I'm going to buy another suki to say i'm supportive
yeah right um uh but like your art is like more leaning towards like the the cute like i feel like
it's more kind of you know like kawaii round is that is that what it's going to look like for your
nft uh actually it's no uh we we we want originally we want to put it the same as this one, but the artist
that we worked with, he said, yo, this design is too cute. He wanted to do something different.
So we said, okay, let's see what you want to do. And then he gave our design another
day and we said, okay, that one is different from our original one but that one is actually better so we was thinking to shift everything uh with to that one but uh but we think like it's okay
that's gonna be true because uh we're diverse we have we've embraced you know that was you know
design and and i think if they can assist both because um we're not making one game we're making
a few more games so we can put these you know qtc in one of
the the theme and the nft one we can put it somewhere else as well so i just want to make
it more you know uh you know um i don't mind being inconsistent in this way i know a lot of people
will say if you're building a brand you have to be super consistent in one frame one single design
one phone all these things uh but man i, I think if it's good enough,
why not make it both existence here?
So RNC design is actually different from this one.
But I will say that one is also good,
but in other ways, not that cute,
but it also looks very decent.
That's all I can say now.
So you have the mascot,
and I'm thinking this is like a sneak peek to the art,
and you're gonna switch it up on me for a minute?
No, but you're gonna see it very uh you know the fellows will be posting and as i mentioned recorded i'm gonna
prepare some for you guys so we can talk about that later and and you're going to get yours
you're going to post it uh please no i'm excited i'm excited to see um i mean one of the the
coolest thing has been being able to be exposed to a lot of different new IP.
With Abstract, like, it feels like there's more creative energy and just seeing new different kind of styles of art.
So I really do get excited to see things.
But it's like, oh, is it now it's just a complete mystery.
And now it feels like Christmas.
So I really, really want to see the art.
And you're going to make me wait.
And I hate the suspense. Why would you do that that when's the sneak peek coming got him you will see you will
see is it soon I mean you guys are minting in May right so May May yeah we're really really cooking
so well first because the game is uh right now is uh main net and uh we are kind of like early
testing together with the fam and uh we're after the game is right now is on mainnet, and we are kind of like early testing together with the fam.
After the game is officially launched, we're going to announce the NFT details.
And it will be, as I mentioned, it will be a thousand of it, and it will be mint within May.
Hopefully the timeline is correct, and it will be on Magic Eden on the launch pad.
And yes, again, it's all in abstract, as we promised.
That's exciting. Okay, so May may i'm expecting it in may are you guys going to be uh going to any nft
events like are you guys going to dubai or anything yeah we are planning to go dubai because
there are a lot of people have been telling like that's bullish on dubai and uh uh we'll see uh
uh let us finish the work for you first
because we want to launch
around just two or three weeks' time.
So I'll see if we can get them.
We can just make more promote
in Dubai with the fellows.
If you guys are going,
we should catch up.
And if we are not going,
I hope you guys have fun there.
And I've heard a lot of crazy events
like fireworks,
all the crazy parties, like drones, you know, I don't know.
I heard a lot of things out there will be happening.
I mean, it's Dubai, right?
Yeah, I know Abstract is going to be there.
And Abstract Asia is definitely making an appearance in Dubai.
So it'd be a great time to kind of, again, connect with that community there.
great time to kind of again connect with that community there and once again reinforce my FOMO
of not getting to hang out with that side of the world. It's really getting frustrating guys.
I feel like I'm gonna just go fly over there and like post up for a month and take like a tour
of where all these projects are based out of. Move to Asia. Move to Asia just like what VX did.
She's like moving to Asia. Did she go in any other location? I mean I don't know but she said she wanted to move to Asia.
Right, I wish I could but...
I'm terrified of going because I know I won't come back. You know what I'm saying?
Like I'm literally... I should visit not having a passport.
Just come. Just come.
I guarantee that I will come back. You know what I'm saying?
If I go with a passport, it's... yeah, the United States is cooked. They're cooked.
Just get the one-way're cooked just get the one
way ticket you know which is pick one asia cities you want to go you know go for like live for a
month you know what i think i think actually a lot of like chaos you know you know you know talking
about abstract events they're all moving to a i don't know why but i've been talking quite a few
of them they're actually already moved to Asia, a different part of it.
I really enjoyed it.
I mean, if you go to, let's say, like Bali, you have all the vibe there and a lot of friends are there.
And if you go to Thailand, there's a lot of people from different countries.
So if you go to Japan, it's probably more Japanese, but at least the culture there is so nice.
The food is so nice, like sushi or what.
And if you go to Hong Kong, it's more like another city, a metropolitan city, you know,
probably not the best choice, but definitely one of it.
And if you go China, you can go like Shanghai, Shanghai is probably more Western, you know,
if you go Korean, you go, go, go, go. So, you know, that also be cool.
You know, especially for men, you know, the ladies there are so pretty, right?
And the Oba there are so handsome as well.
Yeah. So I think Asia, there's a lot of choice, you know,
and the vibe is here, there's a lot of city out there,
you know, they open up so late, all the bars,
you know, all the food.
It's so, so, so feels like more, I would say,
the vibe is even more big and strong and cool.
And for people who are like, you know,
not living in a more, I don't know,
like a more rural area or or a more quiet area,
you probably will find Asia so much fun to stay here.
I know that I'm already committed to Bangkok.
That's in Thailand, right?
I think?
Yes, Bangkok.
Bangkok is a good choice.
I mean, except the building just go down.
I've already got abstractors that I'm committing to making that trip.
So that's probably the one that I'm committing to, to making that trip.
So that's probably the one that I'm going to fall into that void.
And everybody's going to be like, where did they go? Like, what?
You know what I mean?
Everybody in the States is going to be looking for me and good luck.
You know what I'm saying? Like, I already know I can,
I can see myself assimilating very easily and just, you know,
falling into some creator lab and just cooking for the rest of my life.
And nobody knows where I went, but I'm happy. I'm over there in Bangkok. yep i can see it i can see it let's go let's go you can find that
that is uh he will be welcoming you and probably you can go teaching his class right so because
net is teaching in the university so yeah he will he will find you to be the kind of like
we're saying lecturers we get a job there you got some extra pocket money to pay around, go around. So go find that.
Dude, did you just say job? I can't. Oh, my God. Oh, that K word.
Go. Let's go. Find that. Find that.
For the love of God, man. I haven't had a job in 30-some years, brother. I don't even know how it would act. I'd be immediately fired. Terminated.
You know what I'm saying? Like, for real. stepping in my office. Why? Because you're fired.
What did I do?
You didn't show up for the first day of work.
Yeah, that's me.
But I mean, you know, because I can be a tutor there, you know,
teaching the next generation about crypto, right?
That's what Matt is doing.
I mean, you can go there and go with him.
Like, see nowadays, the next generation.
I mean, they're so smart.
You know, they're native to crypto.
I just talking to the stream just now, I say, like,
when I told one of the kids, like, 13, 1314, and then he just showed me the wallet
and it comes from nowhere.
And I told him, like, when do you buy this NFT, like, this chip?
You know, he said, now I just go here and find it and then he buy it.
So nobody gave him, you know, the money to get, you know, as an initial starting.
But he already got something there.
Even some of the demand issues actually more than me.
I mean, I'm surprised on that.
So, I mean, the next generation,
you're going to, you're going to be surprised
by how, you know, smart and clever there.
And they're, a part of them
are actually quite, you know,
we're free native already.
All right, Michael Lee.
All right, Luca, you heard it.
He just closed me on completely changing my life.
Again, I will be basing everything out of Bangkok. He just closed me on completely changing my life again.
I will be basing everything out of Bangkok.
I will be doing a professor internship for life over there.
Nobody's money is any good to me.
So just make it happen through abstract. You can pay me a newt or use WolfSwap preferably to get some of these abstract memes.
I've got it down to a 10-second pitch.
Type in A-B-S period X-Y-Z, enter the portal, drop the mic, walk away.
So, yeah, I'm coming.
Thanks, DJ.
DJ, yours, 100% perfect, DJ.
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.% perfect, DJ. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
I completely lost track.
We went down a whole rabbit hole down here in Bangkok.
Like I said, I get FOMO.
I wish I could travel.
I feel like the culture there is so much,
the culture of art and tech is so much more ingrained
than it is here stateside that
the the experience of working web 2 web 3 is a little more seamless I feel here I'm I tell people
I work in web 3 and like everybody looks at me like I have three heads telling people I work
um I just say I'm like I work in crypto i work with crypto based companies and they're like
is that even like real money where you know i feel like there it's just it's just a little more
is it like kind of like more part of the social norm i think so honestly i think so i mean um you
can you can show them like how ptc price goes but at the end of the day they will ask you like
are you this is scam or like something like that
so a lot of people still don't understand right just like i saw i talked to one of my friends
this afternoon like he's a web 2 startup founder he's doing medical tech you know all the time
what's life and i told him like uh yeah i'm building a games on web3 and i'm showing him
like him he told me like uh okay what is this token about what is this until he saw that ah
this is ethereum all right so the point is a lot of people don't know what you're doing and he was
asking me like why people would like to build a game on f3 why just build don't build a normal
game and so the point is a lot of people still you know they don't know about you know things
happening around crypto on f3 and they still believe that it's a kind of like scam scamming
because it's um you know people are scamming around and they don't know right this game
continues to exist like 20 years time they just don don't know, right? So, I think there's
still a long journey to go. But the good side is, like I mentioned, the younger, you know,
population out there, they're kind of more native to that. And it's easier. I mean, I mean, I think
a lot of the time it will be there. But at least, you know, for for now there's still like a lot of like you know miscommunication
or like with the spring a lot I would even won't tell my parents like and I'm working on crypto and
they just don't understand who's gonna ask you I'm like what do you tell people in your real life
of because you know if they think crypto is a scam you say I'm building a game to bet on these
different scam tokens and stuff like one.
They're not stamped tokens to us, but you know what I mean?
Like they see it as like all these random, you know, things.
I don't know.
Like you just, you know, I'm just in technology.
Yeah.
I would just say for people like we're really not digital savvy, what I would do is I would
just tell them I'm still doing the startup.
Easy as it right. I've been doing stuff all the time so they
know what is that I thought I would just say I'm doing new startup are
completely new on the forefront of the you know the technology industry and
it's gonna change the world you don't have to ask a lot but you will see you
know I was just like you see PTC or that's what I'm doing like half the
people don't even know what it means when you say I'm doing startup but they
feel they're too scared to ask instead of looking dumb.
So they're like, oh, yeah.
And then they just kind of let it go.
Yeah.
So you're talking about even more native or just say I'm doing business.
Real business, cash business, money generating, revenue generating business.
Yeah.
So you have something, you have your web to anchor so people don't completely think that you're just like lost in crypto lands.
Yeah, at least I'm not doing an NFT project, which may be even more hard to explain, especially in Asia.
So if you're in Asia, you're telling like your parents or like somebody who are like old enough, you tell them like, I'm an artist doing like my art collection.
You know, a lot of people will be shot, you know.
I talked to one of the Taiwanese who come from a a rich family he's kind of like second generation he told me like he
when he taught his parents that he want to be an artist like they're against him regardless of all
the things he did so uh at least because i say i'm not telling people like i'm an artist doing you
know collection this is even harder to explain if you're like from asia countries like
or cities like from a culture that are more conservative or like you know tendings towards
more like you can just be a lawyer be a doctor you know don't go with an artist you know singer
they're gonna lose money yeah so so anyway well actually you know what i'm hispanic and so i come
from a more traditional kind of background so i i totally understand that where it's a an artist but that
is not something that pays bills that is not something that is practical um and and a lot
of times that's kind of deterred until you're making money at it and then it's like oh my god
the amazing artist it's like okay cool bet great thanks for the support that's true right uh but
when one day like you know we catch the nft like you know goes up to
the hype you just show them the wallet all right they will sell like oh press 200% go for like
2000% all right perfect that's it that's what they want to know right yeah seriously i mean i mean i
guess that's that's most of web3 half the time anyway i guess they only they only want to see
it when number go up and then you know they're like oh yeah i should pay attention to this it's like you
could have been early bro you could have been early you could have been an early believer
but uh go ahead i'm sorry no no no i was saying yeah but but it's okay you know people who don't
understand they they they they will never be able to understand. I mean, just like when we do the pitching, right?
You don't have to editing everybody.
You just want to editing those who really understand you.
Same to the things that you build a community.
You can't editing everybody.
You just want to build and bring in people who are like-minded,
who like what you're doing.
And that matters most, right?
I mean, even though we're building this game, predicting game,
what the hell is it like to say to them like there are different type of prediction game on that
right like you have road racing you know you have different type even if it's not prediction i tell
them to practice on that one i mean i mean there's a lot of good choice there i mean the matter most
is like do you like things here like the people here do you enjoy the game do you find like there's
like an upside for you if you guess you can stay but at the same time also explore the rest of them
right because there are a lot of good stuff out there and and now because we're not doing like
because we i mean uh it's not so like um we're pretty uh competitive here i mean i mean you're
not using like you have to use google you cannot use new yahoo or something it's not like that right
and literally you can use both so i think that's you know uh that's what what been happening and
what i tell people as well even you Even when I talk to the fam on
Discord, I also tell them to try out other things because there's a lot of amazing projects around.
Sometimes it can give you a more instant upside if you're looking for quick quality or what. But
I think that's what we should be telling people. And if that is the case, I think people will come
stick to you because you're being generous and honest to them.
Hey, DJ, what's up?
I always go with real.
Always go with honesty.
It's kind of like the best thing to lead with.
I know the cultural difference, period,
between our cultures,
whether it be Asia, whether it be, uh, um,
China or Japan, wherever I'm going to tell you this right now, working with slurfs.
I don't know if you're familiar with the slurfs project on Solana.
Um, I, we're not bullish enough.
America is simply not bullish enough for the Asian culture,
the amount of cooking that they do. I mean, they're just next level and it's in, it's,
it's ingrained in your culture almost. And I don't want to, I don't mean to sound like,
like offensive by it. You know what I mean? It's just like, it's, it's, you guys are just on a
next level. It's like, if you can imagine what like cultural explosions that happened in America, like
what's that, that jackass where they were, you know, just trying to basically do stupid
things and get, you know, viewership from the pump fund, people trying to do, you know,
ludicrous, stupid stuff on retardio.
So that's give you a hint into the stuff that I get into, which is kind of borderline crazy.
But you guys, when I tapped into the Japanese market and the Chinese,
I'm telling you, like an insane, the cooking that you guys are going to do,
I can only, I can only warn Americans.
We're not bullish enough.
We need to get, we need to be more bullish because you guys have the better
artists.
You guys have the better, it's, it's ingrained in your culture. It's like every, it's like you guys are like born, you're, you know how to do it. You guys have the better, it's ingrained in your culture.
It's like you guys are like born, you know how to do it.
You just know how to do it.
I can't explain it because it's unexplainable.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm here stateside and I'll just go fuck myself.
It's no big deal.
So, you know.
Yeah, and I'm leaving you here.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm dipping.
You're losing your DJ.
You're losing your sergeant at arms. Well, you could just move over there with me. You know, we can do that. can i can i can i can umbrella the whole team we can all go we can all go and have fun don't worry don't panic and there's
also the virtual world where i can be over there and you wouldn't even know that i'm over there
you know what i'm saying like you really wouldn't i mean you know just promise there come on come on
work with tj work with t. Field trip time, right?
Well, yeah.
Road trip, field trip. Yeah.
Put it in the sky. Yeah. Get in that jet. That's what I want. Oh, yeah. G5.
Luca, you hear me? G5.
Private. We fight private.
Big banks. All green.
All right, JoJo. We're actually
coming up to the hour, so I wanted to give you
a couple minutes and let us know what you
want to leave the audience with,
what we should be expecting soon,
and how we can learn more about your project.
All right, all right.
Thanks.
I really appreciate the time.
Enjoyed the vibe here.
I mean, this is the,
I think we have due enough space for the week.
I think this one is probably the best one so far,
and probably will be the last one for the week, I mean and uh yeah i mean i mean for those you're free you know if you you
know uh find prediction game uh interesting i like the theme uh just hop on and you know go in our
discord and go to uh dojo free you know website uh uh chat out the game and when you you log in
you would just have 500 you know the game credits to start playing, betting, and it's for free.
And then stay tuned for our NFT collection that will be coming up in May.
We're going to announce after our full launch.
Right now, we are on mainnet testing.
I mean, we are on mainnet doing some, you know,
close testing.
Of course, you can start playing,
but we will be launching, like, real soon.
You can stay tuned on that
and stay tuned on NFT collection
that are coming up in May.
I think that's pretty much everything.
And I wish everybody a good day,
you know, good night, you know, good evening.
And, you know, stay,
stay, stay, sit up, stay healthy, you know,
and the market always go green like after.
Yeah, it's a good night for you.
It's 10 p.m. there, right?
12, it's 12 p.m. now.
12, oh my gosh.
You so sweet, bro.
You stayed up this late for us.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate that. No worries, no worries. Enjoyed it. Bro, you stayed up this late for us. Thank you so much. I appreciate that.
No worries. Enjoyed it. Thanks everybody for coming out. Thanks Dojo for,
for coming here. Make sure, make sure that you follow Dojo 3. Check out their discord to learn
more. Be on the lookout for their mint coming up sometime in mid May. And I'm, I'm thanking you in
advance for the angel whitelist spots. Wow, what a go. You're so
awesome. Love you so much for that. I see what you did there. All right. I know. I love it.
I love it. Keep it up. I have that for you. I know. I know. I'm human on that.
All right, guys. Well, thanks. Like I said, we do this space every uh tuesday and thursday we have nancy
space that she hosts every wednesday we will see you next tuesday until then love you bye
