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Ape Family On Top, Metaverse and more| Grateful Show #361
Recorded: April 22, 2025 Duration: 2:14:21Space Recording
Short Summary
The crypto community is buzzing with excitement as Ape Chain and Apecoin prepare for their launches, promising innovative developments and strategic partnerships. Discussions highlight the importance of scalability in Ethereum's future, while the potential for grants and funding opportunities signals a commitment to growth and support for builders in the ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. All the tension in the world today, all the little girls filling up the world today
With the good comes the bad, the bad comes the good But I'ma live my life like I should
Now all the critics wanna hit it It's hit can and we did it
Just because they don't get it But I'll stay fitted, new error committed
Now this red cap gets a rap from these critics
But do we always gotta cry? Do we always gotta live inside a lie?
Life's just a blast, it's slow and really fast
Better stay on top or light or kick you in the ass
Follow me into a solo, remember that, kid?
So what you wanna do? The way you gonna run
When you're staring down the cable of a mic
Pointed at your grill like a gun
The best kid is rocking the set
It's like crushing roulette when you're placing your bed
So don't be upset when you're broke and you're done Cause I'ma be the one till I jet It's like Oh my god, it's wilder than I expected.
I know why you want to hate me because I sold too early or I didn't sell at all.
Or I don't know what happened, right guys?
So hyped to be here today.
It's going to be epic show, epic show.
We have two amazing guests.
We got to be talking about Ape Chain, Apecoin, Minting, OtherSide, and of course also OpenMetaverse and Somnia Network
because that's something that I'm trying to explore a lot because M2 improbably is behind
that, Herman, of course M2 is also behind OtherSide tech, so it's gonna be hyped, so
let's pick the second song because I was like, let's go with the flow, who knows what's gonna be it's gonna be hyped. So let's pick it a second song because I was like, let's go with the flow
Who knows what's gonna happen? So, okay, okay, okay. Give me the power pick up
Okay, maybe okay, okay, but I've been low-key, hated on by most these niggas
with no G's, no deals and no G's, no wheels and no keys, no ropes, no snowmobiles and
no skis.
Mad at me cause I can finally afford to provide my family with groceries
Got a crib with a studio and a saw full of tracks
To add to the wall full of plaques
Hanging up in the office and back of my house like trophies
Did y'all think I'ma let my dough freeze?
Hold please, you better bow down on both knees
Who you think taught you to smoke trees?
Who you think brought you the ODs?
Easy E's, Ice Cubes and DOCs
The Snoop D-O-W-G's
And the group that said
motherfuck the police.
Gave you a tank full of dope beats, the barb when you strode through in your hood.
And when your album sales wasn't doing too good, who's the doc that he told you to go
see?
Y'all better listen up closely, all you niggas that said that I turn pop, or the fern flop,
all of the reason that Dre ain't been getting no sleep.
So fuck y'all, all of y'all, if y'all don't like me, blow me.
Y'all are gonna keep fucking around with. If y'all don't like me, blow me.
Y'all are gon' keep fuckin' around with me and turn me back to the old me.
Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say,
but nothin' comes out when they mow their lips,
just a bunch of gibberish and motherfuckers actin' they forgot about Dre.
Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got somethin' to say,
but nothin' comes out when they mow their lips,
just a bunch of gibberish and motherfuckers actin' they forgot about Dre.
So what do you say to somebody you hate?
What? Or anyone tryna bring trouble your way?
One of his off days and the bloody away?
Never study a tape of FNWA
One day I was walkin' by with a walkman on
When I caught a guy, gave me an awkward eye
And strangled him off in the parking lot
But it's carcinized
I don't give a fuck if it's dark or not
I'm harder than me tryna park a Dodge
But I'm drunk as fuck
Right next to a humongous truck in a two car garage
Mop an eye with two broken legs trying to walk it off.
Fuck you too, bitch.
Call the cops.
I'ma kill you and them loud ass motherfucking barking dogs.
And when the cops came through me and Dre stood next to a burned down house.
With a can for the gas and a handful of matches.
And still weren't found out.
Right here.
So from here on out, it's the chronic tune.
Starting the day and tomorrow's the new.
And I'm still woke up enough to jerk you to death with a trough than two. Hell yeah, baby. starting the day
Hell yeah baby! This is great for show 361 let's go!
Damn this was peak of music right? I absolutely love this album and this song i remember when i had a cd back in the day i think it was it's called 2001 right but i think it was it was released uh 2000 maybe earlier i don't know but uh oh my god such a legendary album guys also i see nana in the
audience so we have little reminder here uh minnesota la what the hell is going on guys
what the hell is going on uh nana you have to go to LeBron's crib
and you need to do something.
Give him protein or Red Bull or some shit.
Yeah, Clippers, how they doing?
You probably know.
So yeah, I don't want to talk basketball.
We have so many topics, you know, guys, that...
Oh my God, you guys changing your PFPs
for those mint.
I don't even know how to pronounce that, guys.
Mint to Saurus, right?
Love it, love it.
I was able to mint actually three of them for free.
It's insane.
I love it.
I don't know how I did that.
So I was super lucky.
And yeah, I have so many topics to talk about.
I don't know where to start.
So I start saying hi to Beast Antino.
Let's fucking go. Let's fucking go.
Yo, let's fucking go.
GM grateful.
GM everyone here.
What the fuck is going on with the PFPs, man?
Oh, it's all with crypto, because we're going up, baby!
No, crypto is fine.
Crypto is good.
We're fucking pumping.
But yeah, interesting.
Good to see Gatsby also.
And yeah, I'm doing good, man.
I touched the grass for a bit. It was Easter, right?
So I hope you guys had some time also to touch the grass for at least a little bit,
especially at 4.20. I'm sure you guys did.
And yeah, I'm excited about the show as always, bro.
Let's go, man.
Yeah, I touched the grass.
I don't know what does it mean. But I was yapping, bro.
How were you?
I've been yapping, man.
I've been yapping.
I tried to figure out.
But yeah, we got to talk about it in the third part of the show, guys.
Oh, shit, I need to bring Wong on stage.
No, no.
We finally have to do those basketball spaces, guys.
It's crazy.
And I know, Tinoino you want to say hi to
but my brain capacity is uh you know not 100 level because i got like 20 green teas today
so i want to shout out to nft drew guys he called me out and he was like this mfr is following a
scammer and he was right i was following a scammer the scammer was in my dms that mfr
wanted to invite me for a zoom call and he was like sir grateful you are too famous can we do
an um zoom call for forbes or i don't know what kind of shit right um it's gonna be four page
interview uh we gotta pay you hundred thousand dollars for that i was like damn finally it's
here no it was fucking scammer, guys. So be very careful.
Don't do any Zoom calls or stuff
like that. Yeah, NFT
Drew is doing a good work
here in this space. Click on his profile.
He has amazing Aquamarine background.
Click on his profile, check the thread, and
give him a follow because I absolutely
love that work. So thank you, man.
I blocked that MFR.
How much time did he spend with you man
the mfr uh nfc drew bro no no no no i mean the scammer you know like those like the feed pics
and stuff like you can keep it for yourself bro those scammers they they they have uh so much
time they are crazy man they are crazy like once happened to me that they tried to get me for like
uh one or two months to be honest and ah yeah they're not gonna to me that they tried to get me for like one or two months, to be honest.
And yeah,
they're not going to get me,
man.
They're not going to get me,
but insane.
They're never going to get us.
Oh shit.
Knock it on the wood,
right?
I'm talking as well.
Yeah.
The famous last words.
No way.
Oh my God.
But before the mint from the fake side. Oh my God. No, uh, before the mint, before the mint from the fake side.
Oh my God.
please.
it's also recorded.
it's not going to happen.
I hope,
GM guys.
And it reminded me of a day when,
somebody was pretending to be beast in my DMs on Instagram.
Was it Instagram beast?
And I kept fucking for a while,
for a while.
And he's like, Hey, what's up, bro? How are you?
And I'm like, I just, I just, yeah, like,
what's on the phone with you? What the fuck you talking about? Right?
And I'm like, wow, this MF-er.
So I started, like, really playing his game for a while.
I wanted to know, like, what's, what he's gonna be up to
and stuff like that.
So it was very slow. Every once in a while, he got back to me and said,
hey, what's up?
What's good?
What are you doing today?
And I just kept playing with him.
It was funny, but I knew it was a scammer
since the beginning, but it was...
I have to say something, but I can't say that, bro.
Say it.
I'm not going to say it, bro.
Say it.
We get canceled right away, bro.
Probably not.
Oh, shit.
I was like, so, okay, share the photo of two of us right and I'm not gonna say
from where bro
but we had a huge bot top in our room
in Lisbon right
you did definitely
you kept talking you kept bragging about it every single
time like oh my god
this hot top I spent
two hours there last night
everybody knows everybody from Bornebiacup knows that you had a big Like, oh my god, this hot tub, I spent two hours there last night.
Everybody knows, everybody from Bordemian Club knows that you had a big butt tub in your room last Ape Fest and congrats to that.
And anyways, GM guys, a lot of stuff comes to my mind.
I didn't have much green tea today, but I drove for eight hours. I was driving also from the mountains. So it was pretty crazy. And funny
enough, the song that you were playing, actually, the analogy is very, very funny because it comes
back to the crypto Twitter. Nowadays, everybody want to talk like they got something to say,
but I think I'm sorry, they moved the lips. Oh, shit go baby let's fucking go keep going it's like it's it's like uh it you know everybody
knows where the market is heading everybody knows we're back or we are not back or the bear is back
or the bull is coming and it's you know and and nobody has any fucking clue except for bitcoin
bitcoin is doing its own thing and i don't know. It's just a bunch of generation, I guess.
But bro, even since Thursday,
you can still say Yolomi, still say Moji, right?
Till the last episode. So let's fucking go, man.
Hell yeah.
But, you know, Nana is from LA, man.
He's like, you MFs from East Europe, like, what the fuck are you doing?
I know. I know. Is you MF-ers from East Europe. Like, what the fuck are you doing? I know.
Is it like Dr. Dre from Wish?
Canceled.
Canceled, yeah.
Yeah, I was...
Oh, shit.
I was setting a picture.
See you not today, baby!
Oh shit, this episode will be hardcore, guys.
It's gonna be cool, but I
was actually back
in my wife's hometown and
I was sitting
on the main square and just
having an ice cream and coffee
and there was a guy walking on the phone
looking very serious and he
literally looked like Grateful April
which I was dying laughing
I tried to take a picture
it was hilarious
I wish Grateful was doxxed
otherwise I was posted right away
and everybody who knows him
was like whoa
okay so that's enough for me
I'm really glad that you think it wasn't me
because your wife invited me
oh shit really glad that you think it wasn't me because you're a wife invited me. Oh shit. Today is crazy
guys. I don't know what's happening. Probably the weather because the weather here is insane.
Also I haven't tried it. I haven't tried it but Otherpage had announcements. Also Mebiz had
announcement that they work or collab with uh think agents uh i
don't know how that works so guys uh later in the show if you anyone of you have uh you know time to
join us uh if not check other page and me bits uh because it looks really really cool we love our
three avatars right so uh this is really dope and yeah so many other things happened in a past week.
I don't even know where to start.
We had, probably this one is interesting, right?
Actually, let me find it here.
Oh my God, I have so many notes here.
I don't even know what's happening in my notes.
Oh shit.
But this one was about ETH and Vitalik, right, that he wanna move from EVM, right, because of scalability, this is like a huge, huge thing, I don't know if it's good or bad, then I know it's not popular anymore, but then I read on Bankless that ETH is ETH and rollups and L2s are not ETH, right? I was like, holy smoke, this is crazy, right?
So I don't know if it's good or bad
that ETH is going to change a lot.
That's beautiful about Bitcoin, right?
That Bitcoin is Bitcoin,
but we'll see what's gonna happen with that, right?
We see, you know, I'll mention again,
Somnia or Ape Chain, that it's super quick,
it's super cheap, but of course, if it's not L1,
the security is a little bit worse than L1's, right?
So Somnia is L1, actually.
We're going to be talking about it.
I'm also trying to get their team here on show
because the future of metaverse and open metaverse,
I think it's so exciting.
Something that Nana and Baron in other spaces
have been talking for years now, right?
What will we be able to do on the other side,
in the metaverse, like the interoperability,
how the games will evolve
that you will have your assets on chain, right?
Such exciting topics.
And I think it might be also blue ocean strategy, right?
Because for like gaming studios,
it's not that hard to switch for blockchain,
but I think it's very hard for them to do that
because they don't know if it's going to be profitable, right?
And they need to make profit.
They need to do what works, right?
So GTA 6 will be very interesting.
Nintendo Switch is also coming.
Yatsu tweeted about that,
that this should bring a lot of gamers.
And I think that's great timing for us with other signed launch and you know everything that's happening in the
in the in the web 3 right now. So yeah I'll stop here because we're going to be talking about
metaverse in the last part of the show but now we'll quickly say hi to our our guests here then
I go to our Italian friend because oh Wong just left I wanted to ask Wong the most important question okay we have amazing Abe here on stage
from Italy with such a beautiful aquamarine background it's a it's like
a you know the red t-shirt it's part also red white right oh my god your ape
is like Italian flag like what's going on here ciao ragazzi buongiorno pasta pizza good morning guys it's really really amazing to be here thank you so much for having me
man i'm so excited to talk about what you are cooking on ape chain because guys you know
we love ape chain and we have 10 we have 10 alolist spots for right now, right?
Is that correct?
What, sorry?
We have 10 Allolist spots for our listeners
and it's a free Mint, you MFRs.
So if you win, you have a free Mint,
which is guaranteed to do 1000X,
but you cannot sell anyway.
So maybe not, I don't't know not financial advice here but
retweet the space uh follow lexokinetic and uh we will pick 10 of you guys uh before we wrap up
the show so you have a chance to win amazing amazing mint we gotta be talking about it what
is it about right so stay tuned but retweet the space uh comment also how you doing what's up GM whatever you want to comment
and Lexo Kinetic
quickly circle around say hi
to Gizby
and who's big crypto
and then we're gonna get into your collection because
I'm hyped
and also to be honest I love
that we have so many Italians
in the community guys
you need to host some cool event because the food in Italy, guys,
if you haven't been to, like, you are missing a lot.
Oh my God, I love Italy.
It's so good.
It's so good.
Oh my God, man.
I see Bronchi, he's also from Italy.
I don't want to go into the detail, but he told me that,
okay, yeah, pizza and pineapple.
I'm not going to go any deeper. But yeah, I that uh okay yeah pizza and pineapple i'm not gonna go
any deeper but yeah i don't know i don't know weird gets me how you doing today what's good
man gm gm guys what's up how's it how's it going excited bro like you said so much shit going on
man and i was laughing when tino uh was talking about this cameras because i think i think that
was a trend last last cycle where we kind of I loved taking the piss at them
And they would be talking with me for like a week
And I would just make them lose time until the very end
And then block them
But nah man, really good, excited
I minted, claimed more like
My three mintadors
And I got a gold mintator, bro
Which is insane
What?
Yes bro, yes insane man insane
wait you minted it i minted it yeah i claimed it so wow bro my wallet my wallet that's the one i
minted my legendary hound as well back in the day my wallet is is pretty pretty great it's it's
pretty blessed with with grail mints bro so the time exactly that's what i was gonna say
let's not say it out loud let's not say it out loud but yeah no man very happy very stoked
everything that's happening is just dope and staking as well bro on ape chain i max take
one of my mutants waiting to max take the next and good man. Looking forward to this space and hear more about what Lexo
Kinetic
is building and he's going to launch
an Ape Chain. So let's go, man.
Man, the staking
is so good. I was able
to actually
claim a lot of rewards and put
them into
another mutant because I
minted one more mutant, right?
So when I was staking, I had
four mutants, so now I needed
2,000 ApeCoin more.
But man, it's going fast.
And I think, guys, the alpha is
you don't want to bridge to ApeChain.
You don't want to do it.
Because if you don't do it, us who are
doing it will be richer
because we will have a better API,
so better yield. So please, yeah, support us. Don't bridge. Even if you want to do it, don't do it.
It's not worth it. And make Grateful Show rich again. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. That was just
a short announcement here. Always be careful. Right. We had so many threads about shadows and delegation, etc.
So always be careful what you're doing, right? Who's big? How are you doing today?
Yo, blessings, kings and queens, man. Hey, man, I'm feeling good. I'm on top of the world.
Hey, Ape Chain on top. I'm here. Hey, I'm vibing with my dog, Grapeful Tino.
What?
Gatsby.
What to do, man?
We in the building, man.
We vibing.
We live, man.
Ape Chain is, hey, man, it's sending nothing but love, man, and good energy, man.
So just happy to be here.
Happy to be supporting the Grapeful Show.
361.
361, guys.
So, yeah, we here.
Grapeful on top. Let's keep building together and uh, yeah
Let's go I I heard that this court man you grinding all the time and you were on spaces this court
Kaito
Wall chain what else what else we have here the the X I
AI hop or what's the name of that, right?
HOP, what's the name of that? I don't even know.
Oh shit, I forgot about that, bro.
Yeah, go there, bro. Go there. Ethos, right?
I don't know what else
you're doing. Crazy. But guys,
there are still six
slots and ten slots
for punks and six
spaces for mint for
some mint pass. So if you haven't minted and you have punk or that mint pass,
you can still get your Minto Towers for free.
And yeah, absolutely dope mechanics.
I didn't expect that we will be able to actually mint it.
I think mutants, they disappeared,
but apes were quite easier to actually mint.
So, yeah, congrats.
Congrats if you get that.
And let's get...
Tino, Tino, I actually, one more thing.
I heard your rap.
We should set
one goal for 2025. Let's do
a rap song together, and Illa
will produce it for us.
Be careful what you wish for bro with AI it's
possible it's it's gonna just tweak our uh a little bit of our accent and you know like it's it's gonna
be epic of course. Nana will be our producer bro. Let's go and showbiz will manage us.
If you guys need to do some video perhaps Gatsby can bring some of his
exes so that there's, you know,
so it's better vibes.
Bring Chantal and Veronica, bro.
I like those.
Get all the exes you want, bro, at Bored Closet,
man. You're gonna love it.
Oh, we also added...
You keep your exes in the closet.
I don't want to go any deeper into this because...
They're very bored in the closet, don't want to go any deeper into this because uh they're very bored in the closet bro oh my god but we we actually put up the uh rilla mask today which by idra animation
which is insane so check it out if you haven't yet guys i also have to do one more shout out here we
have so many legends here in the audience i also saw you see cool chick with amazing star saloon uh avatar it's incredible to see that here uh of course we have the winners
from ape games i have to mention them because whenever i see a whale i know gizby were there
too but yeah um a whale he did a great job to be honest right it gets me you did a great job, to be honest, right? You did also a great job. Bro, I was the placebo effect, man.
I know, I know.
Yeah, you were the placebo, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You were like the...
It really reminded me Space Jam movie, right?
You had that bottle and you wrote on that special thug of water,
we're going to win it, and it really worked.
But Apoil did all the work, so it was amazing,
but I wanted to shout out also Lord
because he's been working with
Thrive Protocol, that's another
protocol that I'm trying to shill,
because I believe that it's a game
changer for all the builders here,
so guys, if you are not on Thrive,
definitely sign up,
check what they have for you, you can be
Citizen Guardian, or if you have for you. You can be Citizen Guardian
or if you are a builder, you can get
financing up to 250k
I think. So that's
amazing and I think
Lorelord is working with them. So big
shout out to you, Aquamarine Gang,
Ape Chain on top, Ape Family on top,
etc. So let's fucking go guys.
Beastino, anything that caught your attention
last week and then we get
into the into the amazing art that uh lexokinetic is cooking i mean i'm gonna have that right away
i'll be repeated myself but the mintotars for me i mean it was nice to mint something like claim
something again and i like the art i like the gobs slightly better i really like the
gobs actually to be honest but even the mindotards i actually i like this like pixelated style
what is the floor right now guys how is it going oh i don't know let me check
it's 400 i've never thought i've never thought about it. Yeah, when do we talk about floor prices? Grateful bro, what the hell is this?
I know! What do you mean by floor?
No, I just wanted to check without looking, right?
Wait, what's the golden floor?
The gold floor is... let me check...
Damn bro, somebody low-balling.
Gizb is like, let me check, he already waived that for like...
Exactly, he's like refreshing.
Someone is actually paper-handing 8,888 Ape, bro.
And yeah, that's for free.
Yeah, man.
I remember these words in 2021.
Like, holy dead motherfucker.
He paper handed Ape for 150 E.
Such a loser.
Oh, my God.
It was fun time.
But we got to get back, guys,fts oh my god i know 2025 2026 is gonna be year of nfts i'm 100 sure uh because nfts are culture and uh with metaverse and everything
digital it's it's really really really dope i will maybe share one more thing and then we get into the art drop um
we've been working with uh nevermore nevermore is such a legend uh czech ape uh tino you
onboarded him to club right yes i did i did he joined one of my workshops and uh
if you could give me one of the one advice how to move my art
forward I'm like
just buy a mutant
because he had been in NFTs
for a while he released some art as well
and he was doing insane stuff
that he showed me
I was like wow I've never seen
AI art
it's not like one problem then it comes out
and then he used like 50 or 20 different
tools for once one thing i was completely mind blown and uh and i told him like yeah i showed
him some some examples of some of the people in the club and a few days later he just uh pulled
the trigger and he went in i i don't think he ever looked back, so I think he's doing really good. He released a collection also on Ape Chain, Generative Art, I believe.
And now, yeah, I think what you wanted to mention, he's a co-owner or he's somehow involved with the biggest gaming magazine here in the region.
Yeah, that's what I wanted to say, man.
It's, guys, this
is insane, to be honest,
right? Because
I got into the gaming because
of this magazine. And this magazine
just celebrated 30 years of existence,
right? So, they
were sharing all the info about games
and then they started adding
CDs.
So you had a CD with, like, demos of the games. So you had a CD with like demos of the games.
So you had like Heroes of Might and Magic 3
and they gave you also full games like Fallout 1
and I don't know, so many dope games back in the day.
And basically this magazine brought me into gaming
and showed me my most favorite games till today.
And now we have four pages in this magazine
just about B, A, Y, C and other side.
And we are talking about the Guinness World Record there.
And I think the magazine should go out in like three weeks.
So we're gonna definitely buy more of them
and try to ship them also to US.
But this is awesome.
This is insane.
If I could go back into the past
and say to my 10-year-old or, I don't know,
five-year-old, I don't know, 30 years ago.
Tino, you were like 45 or something like that,
but I don't know how old I was.
And say, hey, you got to be in this magazine as your ape.
I would be like, that's crazy.
And it's happening.
We got to be there. It's huge. And I love it. So I hope you got to be in this magazine as your ape, I would be like, that's crazy. And it's happening. We got to be there.
It's huge.
And I love it.
So I hope we got to onboard some gamers into other side, right?
Because it will be just like a month before the other side launch,
the Persistent World.
So very interesting.
I hope that with Persistent World,
we will be able to do more articles about gaming in the metaverse.
And I think it can be really, really cool.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think it's really cool because...
And also Nevermore did a really good job
with the kind of dramaturgy of the article,
the angle and how he structured it.
So we participated or cooperated on it
with the Czech and Slovak structured it. So we participated or cooperated on it with the Czech and Slovak Apes.
But he did a really good job,
so it flows really well.
And we hopefully don't lose the people
after the first paragraph
because it's, again, like a lot of exposure
for BAYC in general,
for some of the projects with IP,
but also very connected from NFTs
to gaming, which will make a lot of sense, hopefully for the readers.
100%. Can't wait. Can't wait. It's going to be amazing. Yeah. Okay. Let's get into the
Lexomatic. And I. Lexokinetic.
Oh my God, bro.
My first question will be, what does it mean, bro?
What is Lexokinetic?
It's a melting pot between my real name and the kinetic energy.
That's it.
So your name is Lexo, right?
Yeah, not really.
My name is Alex.
Okay, that sounds like Lexo backwards.
Not really, but almost.
Yeah, just Alex and kinetic.
That's it.
It's pretty simple.
Amazing.
And from which part of Italy are you from, man?
I am near Venice, so not Italy.
And this is also pretty important information because this is because I created also Vallea.
Or Vallea, I don't know how you say it.
Oh, that's amazing, man.
I love Venice, man.
I've been there for the first time.
I was there such a long time ago.
But I remember one thing, man.
I remember pigeons, of course, right?
I remember the San Marcos Square,
if I pronounce it correctly.
Yeah, San Marcos, yes.
I remember there were floods, man.
It started raining and I think I had water up to my knees.
Is it still happening?
Yeah, I think less because there is this big, like, how can I say?
It's like a dam that is preventing this, but yeah, it can happen.
Cool, man. Yeah, I love Venice. It's a little bit overcrowded in the summer, but the place is
absolutely insane. Yeah, also during the carnival, it's a mess. Yeah, but if you go into Europe,
guys, definitely go there. Showbiz, have you been to Venice?
Give me a sign because I know Showbiz he was everywhere. Such a beautiful
beautiful place. So you already said that your collection has
something to do with the area that you live. How? Well, this is the origin of my inspiration because, you know, since the announcement, I have received so many beautiful reactions, interpretations of the collection.
reminds them of the ocean waves, maybe others see the sun waves or even a heartbeat.
And this is cool, I love that because, you know, only one person has actually guessed my true inspiration, but that's the beauty of art because it opens itself up to each of us differently
because of your experience, your memories, your past.
So I was born and raised in Northern Italy at the foot of the Alps, the mountains.
And this is a place where countless valleys and hills unfold across the landscape.
So I grew up watching those hills changing every day because you know hill after hill layered with different ways
colors depending on the light and weather and sometimes also the fog would you know
go in between them creating creating... It's magical.
But at the same time, sometimes it's shireen, melancholic, joyful, unsettling.
Depends on my days back then or these days.
And with Valera, I just wanted to translate this vision and push it to the to the extremes
so i played with the vibrant palettes and monochrome so with density and minimalism
so some works could be overflowing with lines
like densely packed with hills and others are sparse quiet
so you know in all of them there is a kind of an emotional landscape
that i hoped at least to have captured.
And yeah, that's deeply personal, but also yet open to interpretation to the collector.
That's amazing. I love it. And it's also good to realize that Italy is, you know, a lot of people see just like Rome, right?
Like very historical buildings.
Then you have south, where like beautiful beaches, right?
But you have mountains a lot, right?
Yeah, a lot.
All Italy.
All Italy.
Every part of Italy is a little bit different, which is dope, right?
You have also beautiful lakes there, like Lago di Garda como which is insane i love it i love it so i love the
inspiration man maybe i would like to step back a little bit when did you actually join the club
when did you join the club and and why did you pick a chain for for the mint so i joined the club
So I joined the club 1st May 21.
Oh, let's go. Did you mint?
No, I didn't mint. I bought my ape.
You know, I started the right in March with this old NFT rush.
with these old NFTs rush, it was the time that all Twitter was packed with the shilling
tweets.
Do you remember them?
Yeah, I do.
That was really cringe if you think about it now but that was it and started to
to put myself in the game i started also to sell some of my arts and i said okay
let's see around i want to buy two an n, not just selling NFTs.
Look at this, this strange ape club.
Let's try it.
And I bought my ape.
It was a crazy ride since then.
And I was in Lisbon the Ape Chain
was announced
and I was
first reaction
shock
like the meme
it was amazing
I saw
the right
blockchain
to do something
I tried I tried it feels incredible talking
about it because tomorrow the mint started four years ago four years ago tomorrow so it's up
it's absolutely crazy and yeah it's really crazy to think about it that it's been four years oh my god it's it's nuts yeah so a lot of happened
since then right a lot of things that we we thought that are going to work uh they they didn't work
and now now we see uh what might work because we see that the community aspect of the club is insane
right we have so many talented people in the club.
The IRL is incredible.
And now we will have the first digital experiences.
Not that we haven't done anything digitally, right?
We had trips and Project Dragon, but now the persistent world,
I think the world, it will change a lot.
So can't wait for that.
Beastino, go ahead, guys. If you have any questions, I still have plenty for that uh beast you know go go ahead guys if you have any
questions i still have plenty as you know me so go ahead yeah definitely i love it man i love the art
i wouldn't expect it's hills actually on the first look but then when you say it it actually makes
sense so i'm wondering how did you create it what's what's the process like how do you create
all these you know all these pieces yeah so i um i first of all i knew i needed the an algorithm
a code uh i know something basic but obviously i needed an ai help to refine the algorithm.
But when it was done, I mean, at least I needed one month
to understand how the outputs came through.
how the outputs would
came through
it was a lot of
trial and error
when I
you know also with
the colors palette
to try
every color
I wanted the vintage look of the colors and no this is not
good yes this is good days after days I finally find out the right
the right code the right balance with everything. And so it was it.
Really cool.
So you used AI also to create a code
or to help you to generate a code,
to make a generative art.
Exactly.
This is pretty scary because, I mean,
at one point I said,
why are you not doing this alone?
Because it's amazing what you can do. You just need the idea know whatever if you got a vision
you can do what you want achieve really cool so you told it the story of how you
were raised in the mountains in the north of Italy right and how you were
looking at the hills with all these colors and it helps you to make it was
it chat GPT or what do you use for that chat GPT
chat GPT yeah okay okay and then what like you use the chat GPT and how do you
then create the art no I use so the chat GPT was the part where maybe to debug the code and help me through some difficult stuff for me also to create also
beside the the png files also the json file files uh when i had the the algorithm i use
When I have the algorithm, I use a software, in this case, it's processing. It's pretty much used by all generative artists.
artist um and you try i mean you press play and you see what the hell
goes out to from your algorithm and that's it when so when i everything is done. You press it, you run the code, and the algorithm processes everything,
and the outputs came out based on my decided rarities and all the traits I decided.
Randomically, it creates the outputs. Wow, how long have you been working on that?
Three months, three months because the idea was since I mean maybe some years but I never I never find out found out the
right method the right moment to to take these emotions these feelings and put
it in I didn't know if you do just a project like this or just a drawing or a photo bash
with Photoshop or maybe have some video editing. Bang! Ape Chain came out and that was it.
I started to process the thing and here I am.
How many pieces are actually in the collection?
1,000.
Nice, nice.
I think it would be really dope.
I don't know if it's on OpenSea,
but on Magic Eden,
I don't see any categories.
I remember back in the day on OpenSea,
you had PFP Project, Gaming Project,
Art Project. We have IC Baron here. He has also Art Collection on Ape Chain. right i remember back in the day on open c you had like pfp project gaming project art project
right we have ic baron here he has also art collection on ape chain uh 50 right you also
are going to have a art collection there it would be it would be really dope to see those categories
right like these collections are in art category uh because uh yetino, your collection is probably art, right?
It's a photography.
So you are also in the art category.
I hope so.
If it was a compliment.
Anyways, Lexa Kinetic, I really like it.
I'm a big fan of this kind of art.
It somehow brings me back a little bit to the summer of the soul NFTs.
I was, and I have still been a big fan of Cirque, who did the silhouettes and just has this kind of feeling a little bit into it.
And also like, so I really, really like it and I'm definitely going to be picking some up.
So what can I do? What, when, how, and so on?
You know, these DJing questions.
So when will be April 25, so this Friday.
It will be at 4pm ET.
That's right.
I'm seeing it right, hopefully.
OnBleva.
Amazing team, by the way.
What other information you were asking?
Sorry.
So what are the mechanics for like minting or
who can who can mint how how many pieces so since there are so many bots around
here on Twitter I decided to connect with the biggest communities around and I was really happy to manage
the to to make a connection like gobsurgis on a per also mintify I mean I
have a huge list for all the giveaways that i did for their communities i just wanted to grow an
organic community with you know erl minters not bot and between these giveaways, I also host little giveaways on Twitter so everyone can have their chance.
So if you are into the allow list, you will manage to mint in the first half hour one piece per wallet.
one piece per wallet and after that the public
minting will start until the mint out
and that's it. Guys, I think this is a great moment
actually to announce that you can get on that allow list to mint
in those 30 minutes, but...
Yeah, we need to do proper commercial break here.
Are you listening to us right now?
Retweet the fucking space!
Because we are going to pick 10 of you,
and you will have a chance to win All lowlist for Lexo Kinetic Mint.
Let's go.
Terms and conditions apply.
Exactly. It was like Lorelord from Wish, but yeah, Lorelord, if you want to do your jingle, you're welcome.
But yeah, guys, retweet the space. We are going to pick 10 of you and you will be able to mint in those first 30 minutes.
Which means it's probably guaranteed right to mint?
Yeah, guaranteed.
Let's go, love it, love it.
Let's go, good luck guys, so retweet so that you can be a part of it.
And I don't know if we mentioned it but it's a
free mint right yep free mint totally wow why did you decide to make it free that's really nice
because i tried every formula during these years in my in my mfts career and i decided that this was something that
everybody should have
the chance to
mint, to have something cool
also to
something that you can
print and put up
on one of the walls
of your home
and that's it, I think that
it's fair this way free mint for the one who can join.
All right, perfect. I love it. I remember one Artblocks collection that I
bought a long, long time ago. I think it was something with Zen. I don't remember the exact name,
long, long time ago. I think it was something with Zena. I don't remember the exact name,
but they actually told you how to mint it. So they gave you the type of paper to use. I don't know,
all the details and they gave you like extra file with higher quality files for printing.
And that was really dope. Actually, that was really dope. I minted that. And yeah, I think
really dope actually that was really dope i meant it that and uh yeah i think minting your nfts is
is great the only thing it was that there was no i would really enjoy if there's qr code right and
if you if you if you point your phone or something on the qr code uh it would give you maybe ar or
or something else that would be really nice, but I love the idea of Prince.
something something else that would be really nice but i love the idea of prince
Oh, did we guys lose Lexo Kinetic?
I think it seems like that.
Oh my god, Twitter.
And he's gone!
I said Prince, and he's gone.
Yeah, so you meant Prince because you said mints, but maybe that
it got him confused.
Oh, he went minting something. He left
to mint.
I'll try to bring him again. Lexokinetic.
Yeah, he's gone.
Oh my god. It has to be
some orange ape
probably get him out of the stage.
But I love their art. The art is really cool.
Yeah, it's perfect.
Can't wait to mint, guys. So retweet the space we got a big 10 of you so you can also also mint
yeah do we have you back man yeah you hear me yes okay yeah I heard
everything but I don't know why you didn't hear me uh beside the prince to be honest i really i'm really looking for something
after the mean the mint of all the collection because i would really love to create a book
of all the the the outputs of valea and my idea is to create one micro story for every output to
you could have this book with this all beautiful art with the
cool cool stories for every piece i think this is the direction I want to take with this.
Books are the alpha.
I was during KFTParis, I think last year,
I was in that amazing bookstore,
and they had not only CryptoPunk book there,
I think they also had an ape book with all the apes,
and the print looks so good.
In general, Tino, you also have that book, right?
I don't know how is it possible that you got it for Christmas,
but the book is awesome, right? With the punks.
Yeah, the punks book is amazing.
Also, the good storytelling, some good articles and stuff like that.
It really brings
the story it's uh it's pretty complex so it's uh it's it's rather uh kind of an historical item i
would say so it is and i love this kind of media that's printed and and i really love when when
somebody takes uh some time and and the extra mile to make it how it's supposed to be. So the CryptoPunk book
is really, really good, really well done.
Yeah, I agree. I think we lost Lexo Kinetic again, guys. Oh my god.
No, we got you. We got you. Okay, okay. Cool, cool, cool.
No, we got you. We got you. Okay, okay. Cool, cool, cool. So I muted and I was like, oh my god.
So I muted and I was like, oh my God.
Sorry, sorry. No, no, I'm here. Yeah.
I didn't see the Bunch book, but from what I hear, it's pretty good.
100%. Man, anything else you would like to share about the Mint?
You mentioned the communities. Did you announce all the communities that will to share about the Mint? You mentioned the communities.
Did you announce all the communities that will be part of the Mint?
Or how can people learn?
I'm going to do a thank you after the Mint of all the communities, all the K people who helped me. So just wanted to keep, not a secret, but, you know,
everybody who followed my account saw all the giveaways through this month.
But I think it's cool to do this little treat at the end and thanking everybody.
to do this little treat at the end and thanking everybody.
Epic, epic. Can't wait for that.
Blaber is a really good platform to do that.
So bullish on that.
Yeah, what makes you excited these days in space,
in Web3 in general? Anything specific that you really enjoy?
You know, you were talking about gaming a while ago.
I mean, I was raised with the bread and video games too.
It's a big hobby for me and I'm really eager to see the day
where blockchain and gaming is a big one, something that is real, that everybody could join it.
for that everybody could join it.
I see a lot to do, there is still a lot to do,
because we everybody know it's pretty difficult
to integrate the blockchain into the gaming,
especially if you're not really good with the tech
it's a bit
scary from
some parts because
I was hearing
I don't know maybe some months ago
a guy, a big one
talking about blockchain and gaming
and he was saying
blockchain is stupid for gaming
because if you do i don't know like in fortnite i don't know what game was but if you send the money
and it's a mistake you can revert to this mistake and with blockchain you can't. So blockchain is stupid. You know, it's a point of view.
We, as a community of crypto in general, we need to be more narrative. how can i say to make a blockchain better to the eyes to of the the non-blockchains guy guys
yeah i understand what you mean yeah it. I really hope for artists to launch their art without hesitation with blockchain.
With Apechain, sorry.
Yeah, 100%. And I think...
Interesting question for me for the other side is what will be saved on blockchain?
Right?
Because on Somnia, the chunked,
they save all the bricks in the game.
And I also think they saved a movement,
which is crazy.
So basically they can recreate everything that happened there.
And in that chunk game,
I think they,
was it like 20 million transactions already?
this is really
something that I'm curious about
how it's going to work because I know Herman in the
book wrote something, imagine
metaverse, right? Imagine you
create a, like you make a footstep
in the snow, how long
will the footstep will be there if
someone else come and you leave the game, right?
So there's so many things for the future
that I believe it's going to be so insane.
We definitely want to chat in the last part
about Metaverse and what you guys think
because we are getting closer and closer to other side.
I should shut up because, Tino,
we want to still buy more deeds and we are still hyping them, which is not good.
It's not good for us.
So don't.
Yeah, I'm not going to say anything.
But yeah, we need to buy more deeds.
But I think it's going to be it's going to be great.
I'm also trying to get Unsung here on stage.
So you want to if you want to request or i'm trying to get you here
join us join us uh we're gonna slowly shift into what you are building because that's also amazing
i saw uh i saw that in other space group chat and i was like damn we we need to talk about it
because it also looks incredible like you you apes are crazy you've been building like, I don't know, it's insane. It's insane. So love it. Love it.
Great. Well, can I say one last thing? Because I jump out.
100%. Go ahead.
I really hope for the ones who have the chance to mint Avala piece that you find your piece,
that you find your piece because every piece will tell you something it could
be as I spoke before of my about my inspiration it could be something
joyful something melancholic something about anxiety or it could be everything
because I designed the the this way. I really hope
you find your piece and thank you for the support.
Thank you so much man, really appreciate it, really appreciate the allow list for
the audience guys. So before we wrap up the space we will pick 10 of
you and you will have that alolist which is cool uh by the way i really like your ape man i don't
know it probably has something to do with the with the background uh yeah i really love it too
right hunter's ape is also like beautiful nft drew lore i don't know what's happening like
yeah if you look at showbiz ape is not that great i don't know what's happening. Like, yeah, if you look at Showbiz Ape,
Showbiz Ape is not that great. I don't know why.
Oh, Showbiz Ape is amazing, man.
He's quiet today, but...
Yeah, we still keep fighting a little bit.
Because if we keep tension between Orange and Aqua,
it's a win-win for other side
because it will create more engagement there,
right? We will be fighting 24-7
and I think it's
win-win, so that's why we are
doing it. I also
see Nana, Cheetah, right?
There are also, oh shit, man,
something's happening.
Oh, Showbiz requesting.
Showbiz is coming.
Showbiz, what's up, MF-er?
Oh, this MF-er is talking a lot of shit.
He wanted me to come up on stage and talk some shit back.
You know?
But yeah, I do agree.
GM, GM, first off.
You know?
How you doing, fellas?
Grateful, Tino Beast.
Doing great, bro. happy to have you here.
Gatsby is also Aquamarine guy
so be careful, be careful.
I shall
be back soon.
Look at that.
Look at that.
Mintatar.
By the way, I also see Dobbins just joined us.
Dobbins.
Go Mintatar. Dobbins just joined us. Dobbins. Go Mintatar.
Dobbins gives me GM every single day.
I don't know how he does that.
Every single day, Dobbins is the first one in GMs.
Absolutely nuts.
But yeah, Showbiz, did you see the art?
How do you like it?
Will you be minting?
I love it, man.
I was lucky enough to get a gtd spot by holding it
folds right so definitely lucked out on that one um i i do like the art you know anything art on
8 chain i'm i'm all for collecting right because it's something that i'm not gonna sell it's just gonna stay in my wallet right um
because most of the times i'm only getting like one or two of those and it's just to collect so
i i've been telling myself i need to order like one of those digital frames like a really nice
one and and just keep having it playing in the house you know just when people come
could be a nice talking point or something you know
but yeah I have the Samsung frame
the big one and it's so funny like people have
never any idea that it's actually a TV
they're like oh wait what no
I actually won several bets I'm like I swear it's a TV
and then you turn on the TV I was like, wait, what? No, I actually won several bets. I'm like, I swear it's a TV.
And then he turned on the TV.
But for like $15,000, bro, I would expect that.
No, it's not.
It was, I showed it during Black Friday deals.
I'm kidding.
And it was, it's amazing.
I do showcase my art on, so it's funny because I have been collecting art for
the physical art forever
and the digital
art as well. The thing is
my son really
loves some of the pieces
that are there either
from like 2021
the ones that are now probably worth
0.00005
but still I love the art and it's it's it's still cool that
uh that it tanks but it makes me happy so he he either switches for that or he loves uh one piece
where me and grateful are next to each other with uh with our chocolates uh and and it doesn't look
that good it doesn't i i think i need to make sure that we have an artistic version of it.
But he keeps switching to that and that's so funny. He loves the Apes, so he's a big fan.
But it's definitely a good talking point to people. And it's a good use case because you tell them yeah i do own this piece of art it's mine this
specific art by dario for instance it's my it's mine it's nobody else's and i can display it and
so on so it's a it's uh it's cool for sure and uh i i uh i can definitely uh advise you guys to do
that if you can yeah i saw those photos man it, man. It's insane. It's insane.
Yeah. Lexokinetic,
thank you so much. Good luck with the Mint.
Thank you. Keep us updated.
We're going to also share
it for sure. And
we're going to send you those people who
are going to win. So guys,
you're going to be the lucky ones.
And if you have time, stay with us
here on stage. If not, thank you so much, man. Really appreciate everything you shared. to be the lucky ones. And if you have time, stay with us here on stage.
If not, thank you so much, man.
Really appreciate everything you shared.
Good luck with the Mint.
Thank you for your time.
Really grateful.
For a great sleep.
Love that.
Can you tell us something in Italian before you go, man?
Grazie mille per il tuo tempo e per l'occasione
che mi hai dato.
I love it. Grazie mille.
I know that too. Grazie ragazzi.
Let's go.
Ciao. Let's go, man.
Like Brett Pitt in Glorious Master.
Buongiorno.
Yeah, that's
buongiorno.
His Italian pronunciation was insane. Thatiorno. Bye-bye.
His Italian pronunciation was insane.
That was crazy.
I love it. So good.
Thank you again. Bye, guys.
Thank you. Ciao. Ciao. Thank you so much, man.
And I'm so hyped to talk
with Unsung today because
what I saw is absolutely
crazy, guys. I don't know if you can if anyone can
pin it up it looks so crazy uh i saw it for for the first time in other space group nana nana was
shilling it there like you look at that amazing piece and i was like man we need to talk about it
because it's based on other side a little bit right right? On Kodas, on Apes, it's beautiful.
And yeah, welcome here, man.
How are you doing today?
I'm good.
Thank you for having me.
You guys can hear me all right?
Yeah, we can hear you well.
So hyped to have you, man.
Like, come on, man.
It's so good.
I'm excited.
It's so good.
It's so good.
I'm just waiting after I see the pin tweet so people can see what you are cooking it should
be there already yeah okay it's taking some time for me you know still not there but guys check
the pin tweets because this this is a masterpiece and yeah maybe i'll ask you also man because
that's one of my favorite questions these days, especially with four year anniversary.
Like, when did you join BAYC and how did you how did you find out?
Yeah, so I actually joined the day after Mint.
So I woke up in the morning and I was like, damn it.
I went to sleep too early because I minted out and I didn't know about it.
But like, of course, the morning I woke up, up you know everyone was talking about Bored Apes and so instantly though you know the smart thing
that I did is I bought 20 of them on the secondary market uh the day after the mint I did I bought
20. If I was a genius I would have held on to well actually I would have sold them at the peak but
anyhow I still own a couple of them but um yeah i joined the day after and you know
you can tell there's something special about it and uh you know kept it such an exciting time when
we got the kennels and they've got the mutants but what really got me hooked was the other side
for for better or worse actually because i think i got a little too excited but you know just been super
passionate about it for the last four
long years. So how many deeds do you
have?
I have about 220 deeds
and then my partner
I have just 20
and I felt really comfortable with 20
and I'm feeling like a complete loser
right now. Really I'm a loser guys
holy shit
I need to go back into trenches and get more. 220 And I'm feeling like a complete loser right now. Really, I'm a loser, guys. Holy shit.
Yeah.
Not at all.
I need to go back into trenches and get more.
220.
Damn, man.
I love that.
Let's go.
That's so dope.
Let's go.
Holy shit. Yeah.
Let's go.
I actually have a buddy.
So we're kind of the geared ape.
So, like, I created this guild with the hope of, you know, playing the other side a couple
years ago.
It was way early, right?
But the idea of like, hey, I want to own a bunch of lands, have a group of friends and players actually play and we compete to become the best guild within the other side.
And so my buddy is actually equally large, if not even a larger holder.
So we're kind of combining forces to hopefully take on the other side here in a little bit.
But as I've been waiting, I couldn't wait any longer. And so I was like, combining forces to to hopefully take on the other side here in a little bit but as i've been waiting i couldn't wait any longer and so i was like i have to make
something like i will i love this ip i love this uh the idea of this metaverse so much that um you
know i want to be able to build in it right so i started tinkering with unreal engine and like how
do i make stuff and really two and a half three years ago i started just sculpting stuff and making little toys for myself because i was so excited about it and i thought
maybe would help you know once uh once the odk and the uh the other side is live but uh it's been a
long patient wait as you guys all know and so anyhow i started making these things and and um
i have a couple of kids and they loved it and i'm'm like, I'm going to make a game. I'm going to make a game around the other side,
the IPs, the codas that I own.
And that's kind of how this all started.
The prints look absolutely incredible.
I love to see that.
Seeing codas and also, I believe,
I printed my MiBit a few years ago on 3D printer,
and it's always so good to see that, right?
So absolutely love that.
And I agree with other side.
And it's funny because after the mint, I talked to one of my friends,
and she's in the gaming, and I was like,
how long does it take to actually build AA or AAA game?
And she was like, it takes years.
Like, you cannot...
But in my head, I was like,
we'll have other side in like three months
and we're going to go there, right?
So we had those...
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I was like, yeah,
what do you know about gaming?
And she's been in gaming for like 20 years
and I was like, what do you know about it?
Right?
But it was great to form the community for the time, right? But it was great to form
the community for that time, right? I think
the time wasn't wasted for us
as community. I think we have, as you,
right? Like, you built your guild.
I mentioned many times the other space they
have been building since the first trip,
right? We've been also talking
about other side and thinking what
we can do, what we can build there,
right? We've seen some
renders from RIDA that Grateful Show Studio is there already, right? So I'm really excited about
that. And I think the connection between digital and physical is something that actually Herman
talks about in his book, Virtual Society, right? That Ready Player One was more like you are escaping
from the real life into the metaverse,
but the right metaverse will be like
you are extending your experiences, right?
So I can imagine that your game,
but we got to talk about it,
like can go into the other side, right?
Into your plots and back.
So yeah, it's so exciting.
So could you share a little bit your idea behind that?
Because I saw those amazing 3D prints.
I saw that game, guys, you can see it in the pinned tweet.
It's not a render, right?
This is like, this is real.
This is print.
It's all printed and painted by me me and so i've gotten a little
bit better over the last couple years painting so it's just it's been a really fun journey because
really you know a couple years ago i had no no experience 3d modeling really or you know painting
miniatures or anything like that but um i've been working on this for a couple years and and
really now i think it's finally kind of fleshed out where I see a path for a playable experience that I hope people will like.
And just like you said, I read Herman's book as well.
And, you know, I think there's something there where, yes, we have that digital.
That's going to be awesome. Right.
But also, Ken, you know, for me, I was like, how do I have two little kids, seven and 11 years old?
How do I brainwash them to like this ip
as much as i do right and i've done a great job at it because my kids think codas are like a really
important part of life they're as popular as pokemon in my kids minds and so you know i think
how do we make it so that we can actually have physical interactions with you know our kids or
family or even friends and expose them to the other side ip um but yes
everything's printed with so i use a fdm printer like a standard printer that you might get and
also i have a resin printer and so i print like some of the higher detailed more intricate you
know uh miniatures or parts with the resin printer and then the other parts like the tiles themselves
now i figured out how to do them uh with fdm printer and it's a really cool system so for those that are familiar with tabletop games you know like
if you play dnd or there's a really popular game gloom havens which i'm going to be
heavily uh inspired and basing off my my game with um you have you know these tiles these
dungeon tiles that you know your your characters can move you know x amount of units per per per turn if you will it's a turn-based game right and so the way i made it is
all those little pieces that you see they're actually magnetic hexagons so each one of those
little hexagons that you see on those pictures has seven circular magnets inside that are floating
and so everything snaps together so when you're putting these little like that terrain together
you can do it really quick because everything just clicks together instantly so you don't have
to like position them and they stack and things like that and so you know what i think it's a
really fun thing because like i see my kids every morning when i wake up my seven-year-old has
rearranged my tiles into the new little map you know of his and so the idea is that we can play
with it we're going to have codass, you know, exploring the story, this campaign through this land.
And it's actually going to be all the other sides. So this first one that you see, it's actually, I picked a specific deed I own.
It's going to be Bone Deed 55841. So that's a bone deed that I own, a tier three bone deed that happens to have an entropy chaos you know resource on it so that's
going to be the story in a forged hammer so this particular story is going to take our codas through
it you know uncovering what chaos does in our land breaking up the ecosystem breaking up the biomes
and our codas have to save it so that's kind of the the lore and the story progression that i'm
coming up with here what is your plan
with the game do you want to like mass produce it um you know it's it's hard to say right so right
now like it's interesting i think about this i think right now we have a community of players
right where i i do think we have people that love the ip as much as I do and will appreciate like a, I think a premium, you know, physical product.
But my goal is to, you know, create a hundred of these, you know, batches of these and really just see what does this community think, iterate.
And if there's enough traction, really buy more printers and really go, you know, go steam with it depending on, it depending on the organic demand for it.
Yeah, I think that's a great strategy,
man.
I really
like what you said about Coda, that your kids
really love Coda and that it's
the center of the universe for them.
It's really interesting
because
I read about Pokemon and some other
games and it's really
pokemon was crazy right like from the game into the into the merch and movie and toys and everything
it everything went quite quick but i i i listened to and i think it was 90 fake story about how
people started drinking coffee in japan i think it's fake, but I like the idea how they started thinking about it.
Basically, in Japan,
and again, guys, it's probably fake,
but they didn't drink coffee, right?
So they introduced like coffee,
like taste of coffee in the candy bars
in a few of the anime shows there.
And they really teach or taught kids about it.
And in 10, 15 years, they, you know, they started drinking coffee because of that.
I think it's 100% fake, but I think it really takes time.
You know, and Tino, we talk about that.
We talk about that with actually kid brands, right?
That it's not easy to compete with other brands because they've been maybe even brainwashing Tino, right?
They've been brainwashing the kids for such a long time that they see it in their favorite TV series and they want to buy it, right? So the other side, you know, who knows,
could actually cause this
because they might see the game that you play
and they'd be like, I like this character, right?
With all the streamers, et cetera.
I don't know, but it's really interesting to see
where our IP will go
and how far will it take us, actually.
Yeah, and like, have you heard of gloomhaven before grateful
the game groom uh gloomhaven no probably not let me google no no no no yeah no worries so it's it's
like i want to say it's an incredible it's one of the best-selling rpg tabletop games and so
you know you have kids that can play it but i i think it's probably for like 14 and up just
because it's a harder game to to grasp but it's like a dungeon and dragons a board game right and so that that's kind of the
concept here so you know uh um adults would like this too so you can brainwash our kids early to
get them involved with it but also to to actually have that physical aspect uh but then also uh
hopefully if i can make the gameplay good enough uh it's a fun game for adults, too, because it's like an RPG, tabletop RPG, which, like, I'm a gamer all my life.
I love those games, like Final Fantasy Tactics, those kind of games, but in tabletop form.
And then if people don't like the games, you know, it's a really cool art piece, in my opinion, that you can put together.
And so the way it will work is um i'm going to start
making like the bone deed so i don't know if i have a picture of here but i have like amber skull
or fossica the resources and if you look closely like at the creatures you have that crab looking
thing on one of the images and that crab has been uh corrupted by amber skull resource and so i
actually designed that crab with like amber skull fosica so if you
look at the shell the shell of that crab is a fosica shell a tier one fosica resource if you're
familiar with what that looks like and then it has you know amber skull nodes built into it because
it's been corrupted by the the bone deed the other side from the chaos right so anyways that's kind
of the story behind it that I get excited about.
It's so cool to see this, man.
It's so cool to see that.
By the way, I'm just checking that coffee story, and it seems that coffee got into Japan in 17th century.
Yeah, so I said it.
It was fake. I don't think it's coffee.
I think it's Nescafefe the brand and and something they did
with uh with one of their brands yeah they might do that right actually i did read it as well so
yeah there might be something something there but we need we need to dig into that uh anyway uh i
really like this i really love the idea it's very uh innovative i would say. I really love it. It's a good play on the IP because we haven't seen much of the play with IP with Kodas and other sites in general.
So this is very, very cool and I can't wait where you're going to bring it to. And I think the coolest part is that now we don't know anything for certain.
We just suspect, we just kind of guess or guesstimate. We've been there, kind of been
there, but we haven't been there fully in the other side. So I really love this way of the
speculation and this, I think looking back, it will be also a big bit of a historical artifact if done correctly, because this is prior to the launch of the persistent other side and so on.
So I really, really feel that you are onto something. looking at it through the eyes of the kids or the teenagers because that's also a different
point of view if you are
in your 30s, 40s or
80s like me then
it's a different take than
the Generation Z and the
youngsters and stuff like that so
I really really like it and
I think you're on to something
really cool
I appreciate it, thank you. Passionate about it.
I spend an insane amount of time tinkering with it,
but honestly, I'm in my 40s and I like it,
but I'm a kid at heart, so, you know, it works.
It works out well.
It looks so good, man.
So do you think about, like, making, like, different prototypes
or something, trying to, like, create different games from it and perhaps give it to djens test it i i mean a lot of people
have kids here right so they can actually be your testing group and then at some point we can see
you you know like uh at the stars yeah so so exactly so so so my plan is what I want to roll out is like little small, um, batches of it. So I'm thinking of creating like a small kit that, uh, sorry, so, um, uh, creating a small kit of these where I can get into people's hands and really just see if they like it, if they play with it. And even with the adults, like would we, would they actually create a little terrain
and just display it like an art piece, right?
And then we'll actually have,
like I know Nana,
I think who's on this call or the space,
he kind of, I picked his,
his coda HAPA to be the female coda of our little world.
But, you know, absolutely.
I want to create some small batches,
get into these, these our dgens and
our the people who are passionate about it and see how they interact with it uh and get some feedback
what about with a fest do you think about bringing any of them you know what i do so
depending on where it's at and if i can go i'm hoping i think it's in the states and i heard
vegas is and that's really close to me because i'm
on the west coast here in in the u.s but yeah i want to bring it there and maybe even like set
set up a booth and have people try it out and just see what people what people think but um
yeah i think it's a i think there's really is something here once you feel it and like see how
easy it is to make your own little world and and this is where if it works the first
one i'm making several like terrain types so you can create your other deed so my goal is to make
i actually made like a tier one the little house i made the tier five house too and so you can
actually recreate the deeds that you own the nfts that you love and later on the story i'm thinking
we'll go to the bog we're going gonna go to the bog biome so you'll
see like bog specific you know stylized tiles and things and all the stuff I make myself so there's
all of it's 100% based off you know what we own the other deeds themselves and I'm trying to make
it have that flavor and visual as much as I can in the pieces. Oh, I can hear all the passion, man. I absolutely love it.
Also, if there are the next
Ape Games, it feels like that would be
a nice part of that.
What are the Ape Games? I'm actually not familiar
with what you're referring to.
Oh, man.
Showbiz, aren't you one of the founders of
Ape Games, actually?
Yes. Hey, what's up, I am one of the founders of ape games actually okay yes hey what's up grateful i
am one of the co-founders along with hoarder choice alpha djan uh dobbins tamu and barry um
ape games was an activation at a fest in lisbon portugal, which came about because of the club rivalry between the awkward
marines and the orange backgrounds. We were initially just going to do a tug of war competition,
but then Joyce and Hoarder was doing their planning and Alpha D you know and myself was talking about you know united georgia apes
sponsoring the tug of war and we just combined efforts got together um in a group chat you know
um baron illa the ape fest production team um and man lots planning. And the activation was some fun games, right?
Like Dookie Hole, which was cornhole.
You know, Jimmy the Monkey decal on the, you know, bent over.
And that's where you toss the beanbags in.
Mutant Pong, which is beer pong.
Flip Cup.
Banana Boys Challenge, which was an obstacle course.
And then the finale was um the basically
the tug of war teams um eight teams it was codas versus doggos which you know i i hear you talking
about to codas a lot um mutants versus apes uh orange versus uh orange and of course DMT versus Cheetah. So we used the rivalry within the club to kind of, you know, build this lore.
And, you know, winners and losers got tickets.
So it doesn't matter if you're a winner or loser, you got a ticket
that eventually got put into a raffle and lots of prizes at the end.
He got put into a raffle and lots of prizes at the end.
You know, just a fun activation at the Hangover Hang in Lisbon and a lot of community building.
And it's something that I love to do.
I love to build community.
And, you know, even though we're all competitive, it's amazing, man.
Just the competition, you know's amazing, man. Just the competition.
But yeah.
I think anything that gets us digital,
we're always already on Twitter and social.
Anything that builds the community in real life,
I think is a huge win.
So very cool.
Very cool.
Do you use any AI tools for modeling those codas or with the 3D files?
Is it easy right now to actually, you know,
I don't even know if we have 3D files for codas.
Do we have them in like dashboard or that?
I don't even know.
I haven't tried to download any, but what kind of tools do you use?
And because I would love to model you
know coda and print it at home i i love it so yeah that would be cool to know man yeah of course so i
tinkered with because there are 3d files that came out but they come with a lot of the detail
is textures so it's actually not like in physical form. It's like it's baked on, if you will, that
only shows up digitally. So if you printed it, it would have like no eyes, let's say, right?
The eyes come from, you know, a texture placed on top of the 3D model. So I do a little bit of both.
Before, like six months ago, I was doing everything just by, you know, blunt force
sculpting with a program called Nomad it's kind of like blender but
more user friendly that you can use on your ipad and so you just sculpt with you know apple pencil
with squares and circles and you pull the polygons and everything like that it takes a long time
now though what i'm using is a little bit of chat gbt and some of the uh 3d modeling programs that
help you do a lot of the brunt work.
And so that's what gets it really exciting is that now you can make a lot more cool stuff faster.
You still, I think, need some knowledge with how to use Blender or a 3D sculpting program
because they do a lot of, when you do make it, they make a lot of hallucinations
or artifacts that will not
print that will be you know not printable or they'll make things hollow that shouldn't be hollow
that would destroy your print but if you kind of know how to tinker and and use it to to uh
build it you can use it as a tool to help you with kind of the blunt initial work and then you refine
it afterwards if that makes sense so um i'm using a combination but
it has helped speed things up where it's not taking as long to make stuff as it was before
do you think about connection of the the physical game with the digital world
because if you have magnets in it you can also place nfc chip in in in those tiles for example
right i don't know what else you can do with it, but it can be really cool,
especially with ApeChain,
which is very cheap and fast, right?
So you can, I don't know,
you can tap it into your own something.
I don't know.
Do you have any plans?
You know what?
It's been on my mind,
like how do I tie this in
with obviously the Web3 aspect
and the other side itself
you know part of my vision here is like uh first hopefully create like a really cool thing that
people will just want as like a collectible art like boards if you will or miniatures right um
but also gameplay in real life gameplay but um you know how do i tie it in with like the actual
other side right so i think like this one that i'm showing you now is going to be you know deed number whatever number i said 1583 or whatever the
actual deed in the game and so my goal is to actually recreate this tavern using the same
kind of the nice thing i can use the same 3d files uh to recreate what i'm making in real life
in the game so if you go fly to my land, hopefully in December of this year,
you're going to be able to visit the geared apes, hollow hearth tavern,
right.
And run in there with your coda and you'll see pretty much the layout of
whatever we come up with in the physical form.
As far as creating an NFT collection, I want to do it,
but I want to make sure it's I'm doing it the right way,
where I'm drawing something that people actually want, maybe can redeem physical things.
But if I do it, I want to make sure that I have a good track for how I want that story to progress
and drive value to holders. And so it's not something i'm working on actively at the moment but i i depending on if people love this i hope they do that um absolutely
that's something i'm thinking about and then how can i drive value to people that that buy the nfts
in the physical form and man when you're printing the codas is it glued together from different parts or it's like one piece printed all together?
Most of these are going to be all one piece.
Sometimes I'll do the weapons and stuff separately.
And that's the beauty with resin.
The challenge with resin, though, is you have to...
These little miniatures are the size of two quarters standing on top.
They're small. And so you can see like the flower that's the uh blooming staff from the actual nft and there's like 40
petals in there like little tiny little pollen you know sticks coming out of it so um uh uh it
takes a little bit of time but I found some resin that's incredibly strong, even though you can still break it, obviously, if you're not careful, but that can hold up to these fine details.
But yeah, resin, if you haven't played with resin, resin 3 is like magic.
It's magic with what it can print.
It looks so good.
It looks so good, man.
Yeah, I would love to have it.
I would love to print it.
It's really amazing. And that's another thing,
right? For the distribution,
you don't need to ship it from US,
right? You can print it
everywhere if you have the files, right?
also the guy, the Nevermore,
he's working for the,
I don't know if you know that company,
it's called Prusa.
They are based here in Czech Republic in Prague and he's been working with them also on some
designing stuff so that's exciting right if you send the files they can they can print it here
for sure so that's beauty of 3d printing for sure it is it really is i think uh as i tell my kids anything
you think of you can create like in minecraft the movie i don't know if you guys saw it yet
that was one of the lines and like it really is true whatever we think we have the desire and the
passion to do it i think you can make anything and man i think we're all so passionate about
the other side you know and i'm hoping a digital other side is a hit, then people love it.
And then, you know, hopefully people are going to want physical things from the other side.
You know, like if you can see that picture, I got a couple of coat of fart potions in there. I got like some of the weapons, the actual weapons that I modeled in there too.
And so, you know, we can have both digital and physical.
We can have both digital and physical.
And talking about other side, you mentioned that you have over 200 deeds.
How do you think about the digital?
You also have kids, so you see what they like, don't like.
I think that can be a good insight, right?
What to build on the other side
because
kids are crazy with tech
and gaming and everything
we just
talked yesterday, or not yesterday
on Sunday, we talked about how we started
in gaming, that you had some computer
like 120 hertz
I don't know how many RAMs
RAMs in megabytes and you try to install the game, and now gaming is everywhere.
So do you have any idea what would you like to build on your plots?
And you have so many, so you can build so many things.
Some, you know, I think first, like kind of going back to what I see with the kids,
kids are incredibly smart. Like there's like a game called game called geometry dash which is like you build your own little
levels and like my little boy at six or five was building these crazy levels and couldn't even read
yet you know but like kids just figure out what the buttons do how to make fun game mechanics
and they're addicted to it right just like Minecraft, where the gameplay doesn't have to be, you know, triple A gameplay.
It just has to have a gameplay loop that's engaging and fun.
And I think, you know, I hope to be part of the ODK at some point or get more, you know uh that doesn't have a background in
programming or game design can actually pick up and create stuff kind of like minecraft or
geometry dash or roblox or whatever where if we have some technical know-how and desire to learn
we can create some kind of gameplay loops that are fun um and so that i think can be really
addictive because here for example you know with how AI is working and how quickly you can create 3D assets now like six months to a year like hey create me a bone
deed tavern and it just makes it for like you create me a 3d model of this right that i can put
in use an unreal engine and sure enough you get the stl file or the fbx file you just throw it
into your land and now you have a 3d asset that looks pretty damn good within you know 20 minutes
with very little technical know-how and then if we have an ODK that's really robust for gameplay mechanics,
that allows us to create, you know, gambling loops,
where we can create like our own blackjack table or whatever,
and utilize the resources that we own, I think that gets exciting.
So, you know, like the deeds that I own, none of them are floor deeds.
All my deeds either hold artifacts or rare resources,
because, you know know the way i see
it like i fell in love with that light paper i don't know how you probably i'm sure you guys
all read it that original light paper on the other side where all things that are in the game
that are probably interactable or sellable will require you know resources to make and there's
even that that uh that gambling loop where you can use rare resources
to have a chance to imbue x properties on certain items and so you know my gaming uh brain just goes
crazy excited for that kind of gameplay loop where that that gambling dopamine driven uh create
crafting system that matters right and we own that own that. We own those assets. We own what we create.
And depending on how those frameworks work,
we can take those items that we create,
that we spend real money on,
or use our own resources that are worth real money
to create something that can be utilized in,
you know, the other spaces experience,
or the, you know, the geared apes experience
or the grateful, you know, deed experience or or the grateful you know deed experience and have uh
nft data that correlates with stats or properties that go from game to game so that you know you can
activate if you want to allow swords in your game great you activate it and other side or
yuga labs has created a uh a governing uh framework for what how stats work with crafting
if you use the rare stuff you get stats that are stronger and so if you activate it in your world
in your game automatically that sword that i made will have value in your game because it's a little
bit better than you know like the base weapon or whatever and so um i'm hella excited like i haven't
sold a single other deed, I don't think,
in the last three years.
I've only been slowly accumulating from the highs all the way down to the lows.
And so we'll see how this story goes.
So many interesting points here.
So many interesting points here.
And I'm so curious about how it's going to work.
I know, and we haven't seen anything specific,
but we know that people, of of course some people have ODK
already and they've been cooking with that right so
it will be really interesting to see all the use cases but I'm
really really curious about how can we craft stuff
how can we bring new thing into other side and
yeah what will be actually tracked
or saved on blockchain, right?
That's gonna be really interesting
because as you mentioned,
if you get something called a grateful deed,
you will be able to utilize on your deed, right?
Maybe in some different way.
So it's gonna be so crazy.
I'm thinking about Other Side every day,
writing down the inspiration, right?
Yeah, it's going to be crazy.
It's going to be fun.
I'm hoping this is the year that we've been waiting for.
At least in June, we get that information dump
that Garga was hinting at,
and hopefully provides clarity for what we can see.
But we know resources, right? You uh are going to start yielding resources by the
end of this year and so those resources are going to be you know just like any other token that we
can trade right you can buy my dimensional or i can sell it to you or trade it for whatever you
know resources you have and then right off the bat the things that we make will have
intrinsic value because we had to burn our resources to craft it and hopefully hopefully
there's like a disenchanting thing right where we can break down what we make maybe with a little
bit of a resource loss but we can break down what we created uh for the raw materials too
and so you never really that that those items even if they're not the prettiest or the most useful, you can break it down to the raw components that are going to be highly liquid and exchangeable.
So what a new world.
What a cool metaverse that we've all dreamed about, at least myself, for the last 20 years since I started playing World of Warcraft back in the day.
So anyways, exciting as hell.
Exactly, man. we saw what uh
intraverse mint did on ape chain right that it spiked the activity and can you imagine what
the other side will do if if you really have those nfts on chain it will be awesome man it will be
awesome and we are so close right june is around. So yeah, I'm hype every day looking at deeds using OtherSideWiki, guys.
If you're looking for Antinos DMing me, like, don't tell them, MFR.
We need to buy more, right?
I know, I know, man.
But yeah, we're spreading the word here.
So guys, OtherSideWiki is a great tool.
Yeah.
Do you have any favorite deeds that you own?
Like, I usually look at biogenic swamp or
chemical goo right any other favorite traits that that you have yeah so so I
get a couple of the grails that I have the first one I have to love is I picked
up a dimensional slash Galactica like a year and a half ago for way too much
back then but i i thought it
was the steel of the century when i bought it for 80 you know i don't know a year and a half ago
two years ago but um i think you know the ones with rare resources you know i get excited i think
the most beautiful is botanical a tier five botanical with that big tree i actually maybe
i'll send you a picture if you want to see i created that um i created let me
send it to you now i created that tree that beautiful tree with the crazy eyes you know
what i'm talking about uh on the botanical let's see i can send it to you um so i love that one
and then man artifacts i get excited about the artifacts uh uh and then uh i i don't own it
myself but my partner in the geared apes owns a
couple chaos deeds and so we're we're definitely looking to incorporate whatever mechanics we can
with chaos right you know how will we travel fast travel between deeds or or what will the mechanics
be there but the other side collection i think is the the most beautiful uh nft collection out there
if you look at it it's not an avatar pf, but if you look at all the stuff in it and the possibilities,
I think it's the most gamified coolest experience just by collecting.
And if once it comes live and there's value behind it, man, it's going to be a fun time.
I don't understand how they did the art, man.
It's so beautiful.
It's crazy. It's crazy.
It's crazy. There is one thing that if you want to procrastinate sometimes, what you
can do with a new GPT, you just place some of your deeds there and ask GPT to imagine
it in 3D or imagine what I could be doing there and and this brings a lot of imagination and stuff like
that so like i i asked gpt to or i was forming some of my trying to form a shop storefronts there
and stuff like that and i think this is very cool also for uh the practice for uh creativity a little
bit so so i i advise you guys to do that for sure it It is. And as a creator, once you start doing it, the other side of art is so stylized and unique.
It's like the cool thing is when you make stuff for it, it doesn't feel generic.
You know, like when you play, like if you play in the RPG tabletop world, you're like, okay, that's a crystal world or that's this, right?
But like, if you look at the art for the other side it's such a stylized unique style that's like like like uh i just post i tagged you in the post so maybe
you can see it um grateful uh i just posted on twitter but like that tier five you know tree
like that style once you create a world with that vibe man that's going to be unique right when you
see it if other side takes off
you'll know hey this is from yuga labs this is the other side it's not something an ip or a style
that you see anywhere else like like acid who else makes a who else makes a a world look like
in the acid deeds no one right that's that's like you have to be on drugs you know to come up with
those ideas so it's beautiful like acid and chaos that's so pretty it's so
beautiful pretty it's so cool let me see i don't know if it's sent to you let me send it to you
i agree man send it to me man we gonna pin it up i i just messaged it here yeah okay i'm going there
uh i also want to say hi honeybee and theater uh guys welcome here uh you want to say hi, honeybee and theater, uh, guys, welcome here.
Uh, you want to share anything about other side, uh, or anything we talk about here today?
Go ahead guys.
Sure. I'll hop up and then honeybee, you can jump in after me, man.
I'm biased.
I got a sans, a tier four sans.
And all's I do is, is, is fall into my own mind and dream about the enjoyable times i will have on my beach front
staring at the main island right so yeah man i i uh i had the the the saving grace of having a
friend who kept harassing me to get a uh uh a mutant or a bored ape land so thank you showbiz
um i got myself a mutant land so i got like deed 20,060 bro.
And it's a sans and it's sitting on the shoreline of the inner channel,
just North of the fucking main cluster.
like unsung man,
I'm,
I'm jonesing to get some fucking creativity to pop out of that place from the
people who are using it.
Because I think once we go in it and we start sending to pop out of that place from the people who are using it because i
think once we go in it and we start sending stuff back out of it right now all we see is stuff come
out of it from the people who are creating it and that's great but that's only good for the people
who are invested in it right when it comes time where people like unsung and zards and that are getting on it now we flip the switch and this the
user created content in a cool world becomes the meta right and and the worlds are so varied and
diverse like unsung said that they're going to be unique and identifiable and there may be a day
where you know you're driving past somebody and they're wearing a t-shirt and it's just got the fucking geared apes pub
just an image of the pub and you instantly fucking know that's another side land that's on another
deed that's a real project i've seen them and they make tabletop games you know like that's that's
how shit spreads right one day somebody will be like that's a cool shirt what's that about
let me tell you about these geared apes, homie. They have metaverse, you know, reality gameplay on digital devices.
And they have this ability where you can sit around the coffee table, the kitchen table,
and you can reconnect with your family and have some fun.
And then the kids, they don't give no shits about the other deed, but for a moment or
an hour, they might be interested in playing a game about the other deed but for a moment or an hour they might be interested
in playing a game about the other deed with their family so i love what you guys are doing
i am as well diving into the 3d printing i just acquired a four color 3d printer but i'm an fdm
guy because i hate the smell of resin and uh bro i'm making board games too so i love seeing people
be creators to make others have fun,
right? That's what my goal is, is to create things that others can use and have moments of enjoyment and memories created with the things that I created. So love having you pop up and
talk today. Love what you're doing. Definitely going to keep an eye on you guys as well as
everybody else that Grateful Liver has up. Definitely where the alpha gets dropped,
no matter what chain it's about, it's always a place you should stop in on tuesdays and thursdays and
other than that i will uh hand back the mic to grateful and say honeybee bro you better come
with an intro because i expected it no pressure right oh man honeybee honestly i came up because showbiz mentioned something about aquamarines and oranges and
then i looked at the panel and i was like there's too many oranges and not enough aquas
so i came up but talking on other sides no dude I'm excited because I just want to walk
around like a literal like musician bard just walking around to different bubbles and different
places with my cello performing and bringing a having like a bottle tequila in my hand and just
like going out giving out shots to people in the metaverse.
I was replying in the DMs and it's pinned up here, the guys,
because the botanical is gorgeous.
It's insane, so you can check it out.
But, man, Betid has
288, right?
He wanna open
a club in the
other side with his whiskey, right?
So I think that's a great idea.
And I don't drink IRL, but I do drink in the metaverse.
And I will drink a lot, man.
Oh my God, we are done.
I'll drink 24-7 there.
Bro, are we going to need a metaverse intervention
or some metaverse Narcan for you, homie?
Bro, he's going to have an AI drunk agent.
It's going to be so much fun.
So, Honeybee, I'm 100% ready.
Do you have any ideas that...
Or maybe, do you have ODK already?
We need to find people with ODK and get some alpha from them.
No, I don't.
I was talking to Rita about it to see if you can hook me up to help me get it.
Yeah, that's what everyone probably here on stage did.
Hey, Rita, bro.
ODK?
ODK?
How much?
How much?
Yeah, he was like, man man don't ask otherwise i i will
wapy wapy you but yeah i know rida has odk and what i've seen was insane so yeah guys it's gonna
be it's gonna be so much fun to to build there i don't mind if it's gonna be june or if it's
gonna be september right i i don't have any expectations because you never know what can happen in gaming,
but it will be insane.
I hope we will be hanging out more there than here on Spaces or maybe 50-50, right?
It's going to be a game changer.
So, Ansang, anything else that you would like to share with us
about your other side journey, about the game, about your BYC journey?
Do you have any questions? I'm passionate about it, I love it, as you can probably tell.
When I'm not working, I'm building these tiles and, like the previous speaker just said your kids my kids uh think the codas
are the coolest thing like they have their own names i i call the green one with the daggers
veyhoo because he's an assassin but my kids call him twirly swirly so they'll come up with their
own names but uh they'll love them nonetheless and so i think you should make whatever your
your set you're gonna print because your kids will love it. But no, I think the future's bright.
I'm excited. I'm excited by the direction
and I'm so ready to
play though. I think this
wait has been the longest three-year
wait I've ever
experienced, especially holding so much stuff
that I've ever waited for.
So I'm anxious
but excited.
Do you guys remember? Yeah, sorry.
Go ahead.
Maybe the question from my side or from our side, how can people support you now?
What's the best way they can support you already?
You know, I think if you retweet and just share, like it kind of encourages me to post more stuff of it.
So if you kind of just follow me.
But my goal is within the next month to uh sell a small
batch of these and so if you feel like you want to get some uh physical tiles to try out and um
play at home um please you know um sign up for the little uh list i'm going to create and i'll
love to get to you know ship these over to your house and have you guys try it out too.
So kind of keep your eyes peeled if you're interested.
Before we move on, can I ask a quick question about the tiles, sir?
Yeah, right.
Of course.
So your tiles, so I've been diving into this whole makerspace here lately.
So have you created your tiles?
You haven't used anybody else to help design your tiles, or you haven't used any other people's source material for your tiles.
Correct.
So, so everything, uh, uh, everything I made from, from scratch.
So even like, you know, uh, yeah, the tiles I made from, from scratch.
And so the tiles that you see actually
i've actually i have about 20 different prototypes of tiles before i figured out a design that works
well uh before i used to have the magnets you had to snap them in now i actually embed the magnets
while it's printing i actually pause the print and i put the magnets inside of the tile so you don't
see it but um really i uh you know i was
i saw some kind of things online here and there but uh everything i made from scratch so i haven't
used anyone else's files i actually never had any doubt i just wanted to clarify because one of the
one of the uh financial channels that i identified was sale of files is huge. So you can set up a webpage or do whatever you want and you can actually sell
your files since you own them,
but you can sell them with a non-commercial purchase user only,
not for resale.
Go and check out,
go and check out Hueforge.
And don't,
if you know what Hueforge is great.
If you don't just go and look at Hueforge's license setup.
I think you should think about something like that for yourself
where people can buy them,
and it includes a right to reprint them if they damage them,
or people for about 80% of the price of a physical tile
can buy the rights to print them themselves,
saving you that transport time, the cost and the creation,
but still incurring that you have a customer and somebody who might even want to keep updated with
your new tiles and stuff like that. So don't always think that your main mechanism for 3D
printed items is to create them yourself. Because honestly, people don't like your filament choice,
they may not buy it. But if you offer them the file and then, you know, it's done well, it's STL, make sure they have rafts, do your supports with like a tree style support, you know, so people can take that shit off easy and set up your files with the supports pre-generated.
And you're going to knock everybody asses out in the game space right now.
Because the make-it-home game space, take to an office with your buddies and everybody brings their 20 tiles, is popping off, man.
It reminds me of Magic the Gathering back in 99.
Except people are showing up with 3D-created Warhammer scenes.
You know what I mean?
So I would suggest looking at uh like hue forge
it's all what word are you saying they're huge not hero forge h-u-e h-u-e forge so what they do
is they take 2d images and they convert them into a thing that a 3d printer can print them out with
transparency coefficients so that when you
light them from the front, they look like a picture. I could take Gratefuls Ape and run it
through Hueforge and it would tell me where my printer needs to put the ugly color, the pink,
the white, and the black, right? Since I only have a four color, I can set it up to print with four
colors. But if you have 16 colors, bro a you can do an eight and a half by 11
picture and hue forge takes it and turns that 2d image into g-code and it'll be about three
millimeters thick but it'll look like grateful date with that ugly background um but what i i
don't want you to focus on that i don't want you to get distracted i just want you to go and look at their license agreement the way they set up there buy it for 30 bucks own it forever as a user pay yearly
for access to it and you get the rights to sell our tiles if you make them yourself with our files
but you renew that yearly and then you can buy a professional lifetime and then that's a lump sum
so like i think a metric or a setup like that for you would be great where you can buy your tiles
that you want okay today and get going but you can also say hey for a whole year i want to be
sent the updates of all the new tiles you made and for 89.99 that will get me just the files maybe one one one printed tile that's unique
from the company a geared apes tile to acknowledge that they paid this 80 you send them one and then
they can do all their own printing after that i hope that helps and you understand that like
you don't always have to be the creator you've already created a file that has value and if you created your file
you are more than within your rights to sell and license that file for your own use yeah appreciate
the feedback yeah it's it's uh it's something to think about because the reality is if it does well
uh i i have a full-time job so i can't uh print 24 7 either but uh it's definitely one it's excited
to uh i hope you guys love it and i i
appreciate you guys uh your feedback because honestly it gets me excited sometimes you feel
like a crazy human spending all your time making these uh these uh tiles your wife thinks you're
crazy spending all your hours painting little miniatures all day long your your your biggest
encouragement is your little kids always telling you how cool it is, but it's great to hear other people love it as well. So thank you guys.
Oh, fuck yeah, man. And the goal of that is to try and get you the same amount of rewards
and acknowledgement, but decrease your workflow and your responsibility to skip completed projects.
You know, you still get rewarded, but you're selling a file that's just sitting there making,
you know, 80 bucks per person per year, or year or you know maybe 29.99 and they can pick you know 12 tiles and they
download them but they're not allowed to sell them or or sell your files so that's how hueforge works
yeah man and like shipping that outside of us i it's going to be pain in the ass these days, right?
But you can print it here in EU, for example, or in Asia.
And it's beauty of 3D printing, right?
So absolutely love this idea, Tater.
I also would like Beast to pick 10 winners, guys.
So last chance, Beast, to retweet the space.
I'm ready.
Yeah.
So guys, retweet the space.
Once again, I'm going to pick, or the X-Picker is going to pick 10 winners of the Lexokinetics
art.
So let's fucking do it.
So yeah, Beast was right.
I'm going to pick 10 winners.
So Greatflip first, Greatflip second, Greatflip third.
I'm going to be minting.
No, no, no, guys.
It's got to be X-Picker.
So last chance to be X picker.
So last chance to retreat to space.
I love these discussions about other side. It's so
good. And can you imagine when we
actually have that persistent world? Oh my
God, it's going to be crazy with all the streaming on
Ovi, right? We're going to be
killing that. It's going
to be crazy. But the only thing,
the only thing we need to figure out how
to bring Aquamarine into other side, right? Because I know you have flip-flops with Aquamarine. It's
not enough. It's not enough. So... Well, we got a garbage dump, don't we? Does the other side have
a garbage dump? We could always just put that there. Bro, like, why we have so many oranges?
Gatsby, come come on change the PFP
What's going on here
Bro I'm on it right now literally I was doing that
Okay okay
Don't bend to peer pressure so easily Gatsby
I thought you were a man of your own
Direction and now you're just following
I can't respect you anymore
I'm Aqua all the way
Always bro this is to celebrate
Mint to tar gold mint you know But I need to bring back Aqua It's way, always, bro. This is to celebrate Mint-a-Tar gold mint, you know,
but I need to bring back Aqua.
It's my forever PFP, bro.
Those horns do look slightly Aqua, homie,
so you're kind of repping a little.
Yeah, that's true, though.
Yeah, look, grateful.
Yeah, I could leave it for a bit.
I see another beautiful mutant here on stage.
I don't know how he ended up here, but it's so beautiful.
I think it's like when you click join stage and you have Aquamarine,
it automatically adds you here on stage.
So Lorelord is here. Beast, are you ready?
I'm so ready. I need some music, though.
Okay, we say hi to Lorelord and then we share the names.
We're going to tweet them out, guys.
So please share your addresses so you can get on that allow list.
Really hyped for that.
But before we do that, we say hi to Lorelord, the legend.
Lorelord, welcome here.
How are you doing today, man?
GMGM, 10 winners selected will win a prize.
The 11th winner will be mailed milk to their doorstep.
And anybody sporting an orange will get spoiled milk delivered to their doorstep.
I don't make the rules.
That's how they do it here at the gaming.
So look, Tater, you're getting awfully wild out here.
I think that what we need to do for aquamarines is that every time an orange is punched it's just aquamarine blood comes out in the video game just
constant it fills up the screen uh and so we know we've done a good job um but yeah man i'm i'm
excited for everything that's going on um and looking forward to it we're grateful guys are
you guys uh are you guys going to New York this year?
I'm not sure, bro.
I'm not sure.
Not planning anything yet.
I'm still waiting for the Ape Fest announcement.
And after that, I'll see.
So, yeah.
That's probably the first thing that we need to know.
But what do you think, Lord Lord? Is it going to be Las Vegas?
Ah, bro.
My gut tells me. All all right here's the thing here's what threw me off is that there's satellites there were
satellite dishes in there uh and the places where they have those satellite dish farms
are like california uh and so i'm thinking land water water, sea, snow. I'm thinking Cali.
And which city, LA?
I'm hoping it's like a Burning Man type scenario
where we're out in the middle of the desert.
We got RVs, DJs, and a lot of land where we can bury oranges.
Yep.
Yeah, man.
You know, a lot of movies that I've
watched, like Casino,
Goodfellas, I think they are not in
California, right? That was Nevada, also in
Las Vegas. No, it was, but how many times have you seen
snow in Vegas?
Depends what kind of snow.
You know what dude when you say it like that
I don't know why it didn't hit me until right now
Vegas might be the spot
that makes so much sense
I know right
now we figure it out
oh my god
we got it
we cracked the code so it wasn't snow like a snow. Yeah
I'm fucking dying. How did I not fucking get that? I'm dying right now
Okay guys, I think we gonna learn more after the
Commercial breakdown so bees get ready learn more after the commercial breakdown.
So, bees, get ready.
I found some commercial breakdown. Let's go!
Bacha masala!
Let's fucking go, Beast!
Let's fucking go! Share. Let's fucking go.
Share the names.
Give us 10 names.
We have 10 winners.
One of the winner is a co-host and it's not me.
So we have to figure out one more winner.
But I'm going through and then we remove that person.
So we have AI Hiroshi, Hunter, Eddie Showbiz, Melrenter, D'Soubi, Kamakaze, Honeybee, let's fucking go, Tino Forbidden, Tater, and Diablo Incognito.
So congrats guys, how do you guys want to remove Tino?
We have two persons that we are going to remove, Tater and Tino.
Okay, so we need to do two more.
Show me strategy!
Orange background is not going to make it on the list.
Yeah, disqualified.
Orange backgrounds are going to make it.
We just have to figure out Tino.
I love it guys, I love it. I don't know Bees, maybe...
So I'll spin one more.
Spin one more.
And we will remove Tino.
For sure.
I can kick him out of the stage right now if you want.
Just newly forever.
Yeah, he didn't say the bribes for today,
so I don't know what's going to happen, but yeah.
All right, searching for a winner.
It's Sensei
Oh shit no, Sensei won already
Okay, so one more spin
Come on
Gatsby
Oh, can we do it?
Let's go man
Bro, how did shit work?
I've got a bit of aqua to your life Oh shit, I think we're good Let's go man. Bro, how did shit work?
Oh shit, I think we're good. Okay, so we're replacing Tino for Gutsbill. Let's go.
Okay, sounds good.
I think we're replacing.
I don't know if I like that swap. I'd rather Tino have it, honestly. I'm not gonna lie.
You guys can vote.
Look at that beautiful axe, Tater.
Look at that.
Bro, you flipped so fast you'd think that some pretty girl said
she didn't like people with clothes
and you just stripped right down.
And now you said strip, man.
It's gonna be Vegas.
I never strip, bro.
It's gonna be Vegas.
Everywhere I go.
It's gonna be Miami, bro.
No, man. Vegas. Everywhere I go. It's going to be Miami, bro. No.
Man. Vegas will be
very expensive. We need ApeCoin at least
like at $20. Exactly.
That's why I hope it's
Miami.
Yeah.
Guys, absolutely love today's show.
Big shout out to our guests and everyone who
joined us here on stage, guys. You legends.
Oh my god. Such great people here. We are having so big shout out to our guests and everyone who joined us here on stage guys you legends oh my
god such great people here uh we are having so much fun hosting these spaces guys we started
february 24th 2022 so what a crazy journey so many episodes with so many legends from artists, builders, musicians also, right? Not only artists
like
photographers
or painters or AI artists,
but also musicians, which is really cool.
Who else we had here, guys?
Damn.
Community leaders, community members.
Builders. Founders,
builders. Creators and builders.
Everyone.
Love it.
NBA, so many NBA winners.
Winners.
So many Ape Chain MFers because Ape Chain on top, right?
And yeah, it's so much fun, guys.
Congrats.
I'm so hyped that you are, you know, that you guys have been building
since you got your other deeds
and a lot of people have been building since they joined
BAYC, which is impressive. It's going to be four years already.
Amen.
Hell yeah.
Guys, thank you so much.
Have fun. We gotta share those
names, so please share
your address that we will add
to them. And I see
those mint
towers or minor towers or
how you pronounce them. I see them
everywhere. People changing PFPs.
MF has got a free claim and they already flexing it.
Yeah, yeah.
It's crazy.
Crazy, guys.
Can't imagine the other side.
You've got to probably tattoo that on the forehead
and you've got to be walking around the town.
I don't know.
Absolutely wild.
But yet, you know, or Beast, anything else you would like to add
before we go into the last jingle?
I think we're ready to go. I pinned
up the winners. So once again, congrats guys, if you made it. And yeah, what a vibe again, man. Like
it was so good. Like so much passion again to hear like as always from all of you. So really awesome
episode. What about you, Tino? Anything else to add? Yeah, yeah, yeah i loved it uh gave me a lot of energy
gave me a lot of uh bullish vibes uh to to keep looking at the other side the other deeds
uh so you guys should not definitely do not uh uh do not uh start staking on ape chain keep your uh Keep your Ape on Ethereum blockchain.
It's OK, you still have time.
So it's more Ape for all of us.
And other than that, looking forward to hearing you in two days.
Hell yeah, man.
Tomorrow is the day that BYC Mint started four years ago.
So if you have a time machine, set it for 23rd of April
and turn like, we can call it Pranksy it, right?
Because I think Pranksy minted like thousands of them
or I don't know how many.
One of my apes is actually from Pranksy.
So it's dope.
It's dope.
It's Aquamarine, of course, right? Yeah, I was
buying on secondary only for the best ones, so yeah. Yeah, Tater agrees.
Ansan, go ahead. Oh, I was gonna say, my Ape is... I bought this one for 0.5 ETH back in the day,
the robot Halo visor guy. So I bought it from
Pranksy as well. Pranksy. Pranksy had it all.
I actually bought it one for 0.4 or
5.2, man. So that was probably the pricing
back in the day. And it was
really cool. It was really cool. I minted just one and
the rest was bought on secondary. But yeah, man.
Riding the wave with you guys.
It's fun. It's great.
And maybe you guys cooking something for the anniversary, right?
I haven't thought about it.
But now, after we talk about it,
I think they might be something.
You know?
I don't know.
Everyone will get a token airdropped
worth of $ million dollars each
I don't know you know maybe I don't know
who knows
but we're having a great time here
and guys other side will be insane
we're gonna do crazy crazy shit there
oh my god
only thing I don't know if there is going to be some kind of like rating
so if it's gonna be like
under 18 or above 18s because we can do some crazy stuff there right like I don't I don't think about
the stuff that Tino is thinking but we can do like shooting and I don't know what else it's
gonna be crazy it's gonna be crazy guys thank you so much for listening to us today. It was hyped, it was crazy, it was vibe. I hope
you enjoy your weekend.
Oh shit.
Yeah, Chocolate Starfish.
That was another banger, 100%.
That album was crazy.
And yeah, thank you guys so much
for listening, for tuning in today congrats
to the winners have fun minting on friday and this was grateful show 361 let's go
guys let's clap our hands. I'm not what? I'm not tired. I'm retired.
I'm not what?
I'm not what?
I'm not what?
And Tino, go.
Tino, you here?
I mean, come on, my friend.
Give us a...
Wow, this is first coming.
Sixth time in here.
Let's go.
Let's go.
We need some screens controlled by the fiend. What is it being? All the shit I'm seeing. Let's go, everybody. Never do what nice is. Check the people out. Big on ices. Only that I can see your ears can hear.
Let's go, everybody.
Have a great week.
Enjoy your Tuesday and see you on Thursday, guys.
Let's go, legends.
Let's fucking go.
