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Art Basel Recap + 1 Year Appreciation Show on Coffee with Captain
Recorded: Dec. 5, 2022 Duration: 3:01:46Space Recording
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gmgm we'll get rolling in a minute crossing our fingers that spaces is back and fully
functional this morning we will see steve will be up here in a second and we will
uh get rolling give it a quick check it looks it appears i don't want to jinx this but it appears
that i am able to see most of the crowd would have been far far better than yesterday gm steve
gm sir how's it going good good i think we're uh looks like we're going to be running good i don't
want to jinx this year so I'm going to tread cautiously.
But it looks like spaces may have figured out whatever was going on over the weekend after Elon broke it.
Yeah, sure looks like it. And I don't sound the best today, but you should have heard me yesterday.
It was a marathon trip home. It was awesome, though. Wow, what a week. But before we get into the Art Basel recap, I know that as the sort of crowd warms up, I know that you were asking a couple grammar questions.
And I'm not necessarily the grammar expert by any means, but I wanted to clear those things up for you.
I mean, you are writing a book. I feel you're far more qualified than I to give advice on the written English language.
Yeah, so we'll do our best here.
In my defense, do we not overly complicate things in the English language?
Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't.
I would say in the first instance that I'm going to bring up, I think I would say at least 75% of people are also confused about this one.
So I want to bring up one of the first questions you asked, which – and this is the content people really tune in for is Grammar with Steve.
Is you asked when you say I versus me, like Steve and I or Steve and me or whatever, right?
steven i or steven me or whatever right so like true story every single time that i send out a
sweet or sweet that i send out a tweet and say join nft bark and me join me in nft bark i think
through that thought like what is the proper order every single time i send it sometimes i've googled
it most of the time i just default to whatever comes out, knowing that there's 50, 50, 50 chance I'm right or wrong.
I'm going to make it really easy for you. Okay.
Which is if you removed NFT bark from the situation,
what word would you use? So for example, if we're saying we're going to Miami,
I would say, come say hi to Chris and me,
because you always put the other person first and yourself last.
That's just generally the way you do. That's like the rule.
And if I were in Miami, I would say, come say hi to me.
So then in that instance, I'd say, come say hi to Chris and me,
because me would be the word there.
Whereas I would say, Chris and I said hi to you,
because I would say I said hi to you.
So the real simple answer there is,
you just simply remove the other person
from the situation. And then what would the correct word be? And then you just insert that
if you add a second person, does that make sense? So Steve is always first. And then I just remove
your name and to whether I use Steve or whether I use I or me. Right. So again, like example would
be come say hi to Chris and me. Cause you'd say because you'd say come say hi to me. Chris and I said hi to you because you would say I said hi to
you. So that's the simple rule of thumb on that one. What word would you use there? And then always
put the other thing first. The other thing you were saying is the apostrophe thing so when you have an s in the end of your name and this this is actually so i knew i
was not confident whatsoever in my steve and me steve and i uh wording this next one though was
a little curveball courtesy of mackie i don't see him in here yet but he he's been reading some books
and uh dropped like 10 tips from the first chapter in the one i'll kick it back to you to steve to explain this one this was a curveball for me
because i've always put if it's if i'm showing possessive chris or any word that ends in an s
i don't put comma s i just put the comma and apparently that is wrong steve can you please
educate me here yeah so i actually what's interesting now now as i'm reading mackie's
thing um i'm perhaps uh incorrect in how i do this one so i'll actually just leave this one
to mackie and not correct it because now that i'm looking at um mackie saying that you would say
charles's friend um i i am not understanding that one myself.
So now as the guy writing the book,
I would say I am incorrect on this one.
So I'm actually going to defer
when Mackie wants to explain that one
because I'm looking at it like,
I was looking at it in the terms of like,
you would, when possessive,
you would put the apostrophe following the S
in a possessive word.
It appears he is saying no.
There are actually, now that you say it too,
there are so many rules in the English language,
now that I think about it.
I'm trying to think of the one that I was explaining.
Oh, I was explaining how A versus an,
I'm not going to get into it
because it's just going to confuse more people.
How when you use A versus an.
A NFT or an NFT.
Yeah, i need this
explained because i don't i'll give you the high level if there is a vowel sound to start even if
it's not a vowel letter it is an so like an nft because n sounds like a sound right um whereas
it's like uh yeah english is hard english is hard this doesn't make any sense to me i i
can't like if you're new here welcome gm and i would apologize but this is actually pretty typical
open for us uh anyone who tuned in to learn about basil or or reflections of the past year we'll get
to it at some point but we feel this is pretty critical english language education this morning
yeah the obverse and thing, ah,
FBI agent is going to arrest me for owning and NFT would be the way to look
at it.
Right.
So like FBI is a,
is a shortened version that,
that starts with a,
like an F sound,
a non vowel sound.
If it's a vowel sound,
it is.
And so it doesn't even matter if it's like a vowel word.
I don't get it.
I can't explain it.
I'm just telling you, I don't make the rules. Um rules um i'm just i'm just telling you how it goes but
um i don't know like we're actually already pretty warmed up at 806 we're closing in on 100 to start
with rug spaces going on um i have one last digression someone's i see i see small says
english is hard you should try to learn german i. I will concede to that one. My oldest daughter is
an artist and plans to go to
Germany for school and is learning German.
We spent a little bit of time over there this year. I thought about attempting even to learn
conversational German. Then I said, nope, I'm good. I'll just use Google Translate.
Yeah. I respect anybody, by the way, I I've said this before, like it was, it's,
it's always amazing to me. We have people come up on this stage and they say,
they apologize. Cause they're like, English is my second language. I'm like, look,
I don't speak any second language. Um, the fact that anybody can speak multiple languages well
enough to speak on a space and has the bravery to do that,
because I would be terrified to speak in a space in front of a couple hundred people in another language as I'm learning it,
let alone if it's their second language, that is so freaking awesome.
So I always want to make sure if anybody has English as a second language, that's good on you.
That's good on you.
And congratulations on having two because I do not.
And congratulations on having two, because I do not.
It's amazing because some of the comments,
some people are loving the English and phonetics education in the morning.
Others are tilting and flooding us pretty hard.
So this is maybe our most polarizing cold open, Steve.
Yeah.
Well, I won't make it more polarizing then because I had a thought.
Mrs. NFT Park brought up a fantasy football-related thought over the weekend
that normally I'd be like, oh, of course this is the answer.
And I'm like, wait a minute.
That's a really, really good point.
But I'm not going to go there.
Just remind me to put a tickler in a future space
or maybe I'll ask in the war room.
I'll leave it at that.
And GM, everybody, as know, we're trying to
do a better job. We've asked people what we could do that, be better at like consistently over the
last year. One of those things is we are very, very bad self promoters. So if people don't mind,
I cringe asking for it, do us a favor, put a GM or a comment in that, in that purple box in the
bottom, right. We're going to try to do our best to keep the spaces up and read people's comments.
We know everybody can't come up to speak.
Retweet the space.
Share it out if you don't mind so we can get it going.
We're really excited because I think we're going to, like I said, the two main topics of the day,
we're going to try to keep it pretty hefty on two unless there's a shift in sort of the winds that's heavy,
that's heavy, which are Art Basel recap and what we took from it.
which are Art Basel recap and what we took from it.
And then the sort of like reflections on the past year,
a combination of what we think has worked, you know,
and things that we think, you know,
things that we've like really enjoyed or seen as success metrics for ourselves.
So I don't know where you want to, where you want to kick it, Cap,
but I'm cool to go either way.
Yes. Perfect.
I just dropped the link to the space above if any phone feels so inclined to tweet that out as we go around the
horn this morning we'd appreciate it uh it was a little lag this morning but i don't again not
going to jinx our twitter spaces we seem to be running strong and then i know i shared some out
but i'm going to drop as we go through this morning's conversation we'll drop some pictures
from the weekend uh or last week weekend uh down in the chat would love to see anyone else has any
any miami pictures from the weekend uh feel free to throw in the chat. Would love to see anyone else has any Miami pictures from the weekend.
Feel free to throw them in the chat box down below.
We actually, I got to go find it.
Jeremy, regular listener, friend of the show here.
We had a chance to connect and he did a quick interview.
Steve, we actually got pulled aside to do a couple of quick clips over the weekend.
And Jeremy actually introduced us as the worst promoters,
self-promoters on Twitter spaces.
So shout out to Jeremy.
It was great to connect with him and so many others.
Steve, I don't know.
I actually took some notes.
I don't take notes for this show.
I just wing it.
I'm sure that's probably a shock to most people listening in.
But I actually took some notes this morning.
I didn't want to forget anyone
because it was really some profound conversations,
some great connections, and just I had an amazing week.
Before we get into many specifics,
you maybe want to go like a 60,000-foot view on the –
we'll pay homage to Vaughn Fronten,
the 35,000-foot view as he's listening in from the skies this morning,
but high-level overview of just the week at a whole,
and then maybe we start getting into some of the, some of the specific events and connections.
Yeah, I can definitely, definitely start there. I'm with you.
You know, I actually, again, also took notes, but that's not super uncommon for me.
Whereas Cap didn't book his Airbnb for Miami until I think the night before he texted me,
hey, your hotel sold out. So I'm getting an Airbnb by you. Um, and the converse of that would be, uh, when pack cap picked
me up a Saturday morning or yeah, I think it was like Friday before we went out Friday
and I was leaving Saturday at 6 PM. I'm like, I'm already packed. Um, so little, little
bit of a yin and yang there. Um, the, the 35,000 foot view for me, shout out Von Fronten in the air. I think one of like,
captain of this profound comment when we were driving place to place to me, which to me was
profound, which is people talk about businesses being built in a bear market. The best businesses
are built in a bear in any sort of industry. And at the time, I always thought like, okay,
they're working hard. nobody's paying attention,
they can do it below the radar, whatever.
But that to me wasn't what it's about.
It sort of was about what this week was.
This week to me was maybe the best sort of NFT-related,
Web3-related trip that I've taken,
and it's not about necessarily the events,
which were all cool or whatever.
It was every single boot said this.
The first thing I boot said when I ran into him at Drew Barman's party was,
everybody here is building something.
And I know that sounds cliche and we say building is cliche,
the term, right?
It's become a thing.
But the truth is like pretty much everybody I talked to fell in one of two buckets.
90 plus percent of people were there were working on something in web 3 and 10 were probably so
enthusiastic about nfts that they were just excited to talk and feedback have thoughts on everything
and i think to us like that was this big opening aha moment is that we were having conversations
with everybody who's working on something and it's like the ability to make those businesses, business connections, you know, in November, when we went to NFT NYC, it was, it was, you know, and we were doing it.
I mean, everybody's doing it. Like we're going to the moon. We're all going to be partying on
yachts, which is cool. Like, don't get me wrong. Like, that's awesome. I'm not knocking that,
but there's a lot of noise and it might be hard to connect. And I genuinely think some of my
opportunities and people I were able to people I was able to talk to
this past week, those conversations might not happen in a raging bull market because they're
getting pulled in a different direction. There's more people there. There's more people taking
their time. I don't know that I get to have a one-on-one conversation with the Board of Yacht
Club founders if we're in the middle of a raging bull market. I don't know that they can just be
dropping by places like this and having casual conversations with people. So to me, the big view was everybody there was a
person. And it's not to say people who weren't there aren't quality or things like that. It's
not what it means. It just means everybody who was there was working on something. And to me,
that was, that was my big takeaway. It was this big aha moment where I'm like, Oh my God, like everybody's we're now getting to meet with all the different people
in the space without sort of the distractions and noise cap. What do you think? I mean, it's,
it's almost perfectly said I, I, and maybe it's, we, we did get a chance to debrief a little bit,
but yeah, I, I felt the, the same way as like every single interaction, every individual I met
with, it was was they're operating
on such a high frequency and i'm not talking it's not just founders and it's not just the it's not
just the gordon goners and the franks of the world it's every person i had a conversation with
is it were high level humans quality individuals just it was it was i can't think of like one bad interaction like they're you know
they're not gonna make it just it was every interaction was you know nine nine or ten out
of ten and the individuals to your point it's it was that it finally defined what building an
environment to me and you said it best it's not about just heads down and banging out a bunch of code and coming back up for air a couple years later it's for as great as the first nft or our
first nft nyc was the first ape fest and the second one and vcon awesome conferences incredible
people there was also i don't want to say 50 that's not fair but there was also a lot of interactions
that you're just,
as we're going around, you're meeting a bunch of people.
In the back of my head, I wasn't consciously thinking this,
but in the back of my head, it's like,
you kind of know that maybe half of these people
aren't going to be around in a couple years.
It was just, the word frothy comes to mind.
And so if the average level of a conversation out of 10
was a six
or probably a seven to be fair at past conferences, this was a nine and a half.
And it was just every single person is like you said, it's a builder.
And in some cases that's a, that might be a founder or a dev.
In other cases, it might be a content creator.
In other cases, it might be, you know, an ambassador, a community member that's out there
educating people, teaching people how to use proper pronunciation pronunciation she's can't even
speak punctuation and capitalization right um my kid but it would it really was a just a some aha
moments for me and uh came away from almost every event with like wow that wow, that's a really strong group. That's a really strong community.
And it was kind of goes in line.
I'm going to go find the tweet as well,
because Ryan, the CEO of Polygon,
sent out a tweet over the weekend reflecting on his first year in Web3.
And I've been guilty of this on this show,
claiming that we we need leaders i've said
on here that we need more vocal leaders for the masses specifically cited last week on on the
doxing that you know it was i thought it'd be helpful with with um with g money and and kevin
and frank coming out uh and undoxing that i felt that would push the help push the space forward with them
able to go out and speak to these news outlets and these mainstream media. And, and I think I
was wrong there. And I, and it means no disrespect to, to, to, to Kevin GM, by the way, one of my
favorite tweets, I'm going to go get that was his after consuming his colada at the live coffee
tweet won the, won the morning for me.
In fact, after my weekend, I'm pretty sure I probably should start.
I'm going to have to go get some similar health test measures just to make sure my caffeine consumption doesn't get to.
Don't push the envelope too far.
But I digress.
We'll come back to that in a minute.
The real story and back to Ryan's or to ryan's letter is that we we don't need heroes that that's very web 2 mentality that we need a you know singular leaders that are the the individuals that they're
the spokespeople for the space web 3 is different web 3 is us it's it's we it's it's the community
whether i know of the proper use of we or us or i it's it is it's everyone here it's everyone we met and that like to see ryan type you know right
out post that letter this weekend coming off art bazit was just like steve said the word profound
i think that's the best way i could sum it up that like it's like the light bulbs really started
going off for me what it meant to be part of a novel industry like this that is very much so in its
infancy stages. And we're in a period where everyone here is at everyone listening and you're
adding value, whether you believe that or not, everyone here listening and we'll bet this weekend,
it's, it is, we're in a, we're in an era of value creation and it's, it's extremely exciting for it.
Yeah, I think that's, you know, super well I mean it's just that that and that could that was
my just ultimate takeaway I mean there's so many good things about events there's so many good
things about like people that we met and what they're working on but it's like you know it's
like you know it's any to your point like it's not just the big founders like the Gordons of
the world and the Franks of the world and I think you, you know, that was a well said, because at least to me, I'm not, I'm not necessarily going out there looking like, I do love having those interactions
with wonderful people, like who are building stuff like Kevin or like Justin Mazel or like
all the others that we got to meet that are, that are out there. Like, that's awesome. Like
Gordon and Garga, obviously first time meeting the founders was, you know, I, you know, we'll
get into that a little bit in our, in our personal stories. Cause I'll tell, I'll, I'll tee up a little bit there. I, I very rarely get starstruck or lost for words
as anybody listening to this knows. There's probably less than 10 people in the world who
I would meet and say, Oh my God, I'm, you know, this is, you know what I mean? Like this, I don't
even know what to say. And I just want to step away.
Gordon and Gargo were in that category.
So I'll talk about my interactions and how I handled that there in a minute.
But it's not just them.
It's, you know, we had the conversation with Paraspace.
Hotline Bling.
Shout out Hotline Bling.
We ran into him.
I said, what's up?
He's like, oh, you need to meet, you know, you need to meet our team and, you know, met
the team.
And I had this amazing conversation with Jen who does their marketing. And she's 26 and she like, you know, is super smart, like left
her job. Obviously the founder is genius, but like, I know we're going to probably try to get on the
show, but it's like, you have those conversations. You're like, wow, this is cool. And this week,
you know, cap, we'll get on a call with Paris space at some point, probably do a demo of the
platform and then have them on the show. And it's like those things that you start to run into is you know or you know boots and emily loves crypto
you know who are obviously working on next level security measures we had them on the show as well
and having them sort of there in boots walking around in a full-on superhero outfit um it's the
founders who are continuing to sort of think of not just picks and shovels, like some of them are project related, but like, it's just, I don't know.
Like that was like my biggest,
biggest takeaway is that all of the networking and net weaving and discussions
that we had at previous conferences were awesome. Like you said,
seven and a half out of 10 V con was an amazing conference because we got to
talk to people almost a similar vibe that was created in more of a bull market
because we were stuck, you know, stuck in the stadium, quote quote unquote like it was like one concentrated area but this was just like
I mean everywhere you went I could walk up to any person at a random place and like I said either
they're an enthusiast or they were building something and again I don't think I had a bad
conversation and I know I'll go to Josh here in a second, just because I know Josh had said,
like, what were the best events at ArtBoz
or who were the best, you know,
what projects sort of did the best.
I can only speak for the ones I went to.
But for me personally, I had zero criticisms.
Now I didn't go to the Board of Ape one,
which I saw there were some line things with
on Saturday night, but personally,
like zero bad interactions with,
you know, any of the projects. I didn't, I would like to, because I usually like to know any of the project I didn't I would
like to because I usually like to say it was good here's what I would have done better
every one I went to from on chain monkey drew barman to start the night to the moonbirds lounge
to doodle pot which I know we need to talk about all that stuff just because when we get into the
individual stuff because when we last left Friday we hadn't gone to moonbirds lounge we hadn't gone
to doodle pot we hadn't gone to other block oh my god am i bullish on swicky and peter
kid jet um you know some other people we want to give flowers to like girl in the verse
hardest working person i i may have met um in my life um but uh but josh i'll go to you i know you
had your hand up for a little there uh go ahead and get in here good jam josh hey good morning
and glad to hear you guys had a good time at Art Basel.
You know, friends with Ryan and chatted with him about this.
I think one of the biggest things that I really personally see on this is the false leaders.
It's the last line of the first paragraph that he puts in.
that he puts in.
I think this is the thing that most content creators,
most people with large followings
just simply refuse to do,
is call out that action.
I'm going to read this.
Just for those listening in who may not see it,
I'm going to read this.
This first paragraph is called False Prophets.
He titled it. It says,
The space yearns for individuals who can lead the industry
and are anxious to crown them.
Stay away from this.
The entire concept of decentralization
is to give power back to the people and let no one person be an idol or leader in the space.
Let it be the community. The space is littered with bad actors who are once considered quality
leaders. Sorry, Josh, go ahead. Yeah, it's the last line that's really important. It's just
something that we don't see in the space. People refuse call out theft fraud deception things that are not
ethical like yes a few people might call out like pixelmon because whoever that founder is like
people don't know who he is but anyone with a large voice in the space people simply refuse
to address what they do or pretend like oh oh, they stole X amount of money.
That was five months ago.
This is very different.
I always think of trust a lot like I think of trust in relationships.
If you have a girlfriend that only cheats on you three days a month, that's probably
not a great girlfriend unless you're in an open relationship.
Or if your wife only cheats on you with a neighbor twice a year you're probably not going to stay married super long and that's legitimately
how I think about people uh giving people my money and for me uh I'm very very adamant about
not trusting deceptive people and when someone shows you who they are, you don't need a hundred occurrences
of them stealing your money. Like you don't need the burglar to rob your house 32 times to know
maybe you shouldn't open the door for them on the third time. And so it's one of the things that our
space will need to do is to call out bad actors and then not continue to promote those same bad actors after they've done something that we deem unethical.
In order for anyone to come into this ecosystem as an investor, that's going to need to happen.
And what I think is really going to happen is just better actors are going to come in.
You know, the bad actors are going to like it'll just be a law of attrition like there.
You know, the bad actors are going to like it'll just be a law of attrition.
You know, I'm fairly certain that there are some prosecutors and some people out there keeping a close eye more than what most people might think.
And there's a lot of legal shit going around that's very, very public, very easy to spot.
pretty easy to spot. I think it's going to not end well for a lot of them.
I think it's going to not end well for a lot of them.
No, that's, that's a, that's a,
that last point actually is I think something that Cap and I talked about as
well, where, you know, as we were looking around, you know,
we were saying like, I think with some of the bad actors,
I think there's obviously like gray areas, right.
Where it's like, if somebody does something,
makes a mistake who's a project founder or does something wrong,
but it's not necessarily in bad faith. You know,
I think being critical is something that, you know, I know you've done, Josh, I've done, Cap's done. And,
you know, it's not always fun because we have these founders on our show and we flat out talk
to them, you know, about, you know, what we like, dislike, or thought from a holder perspective from
a, you know, it was, I had someone come up to me at the Moonbirds event who was like,
I appreciate one, you're an ape who doesn't sit there as a bag holder because you critique
Yuga when it makes sense. You also praise them when it makes sense. But they were like,
same, like they'd said, they're like, I felt like you spoke for me when the CC zero thing happened.
And that meant a lot to me because it doesn't, it sucks to like, and I mean, again, Josh,
you know, this is much anyone. It sucks to be the contrarian who's in the room saying this sucks and here's why I think this sucks.
And it's a bummer.
And then yet at the same time, you know, at least for me, like I've gotten responses from most of those founders saying, hey, we appreciate the feedback and we understand that this isn't meant to be harsh.
So there's that.
And then to your point, there's also the bad actors that, you know, Cap and I were saying, I think, you know, time is going to take care of that stuff.
You know, as we continue to, you know, push forward and do our thing, like, you know, we had this discussion, like we left Miami more energized than ever to keep doing what we're doing to keep working on the things we're working on.
And I think for a lot of people, you know, when the glitz and glamour has gone, it's not quite as fun for them. And then exactly as you said, I think people will be surprised when sort of like the actual
sort of prosecutors and actual, you know, legal aspect comes into place because
auditing, blockchain, it lives forever.
And, you know, people get audited.
Like I was talking to my tax guy.
He knows somebody who had like, they missed a little bit of crypto, like, you know, a
They missed a little bit of crypto, like a few thousand dollars in crypto taxes in like 2018.
few thousand dollars in crypto taxes in like 2018.
And it was like they got audited in like 2020 or 2021.
And it cost them way more money to handle the audit than this.
And he's like, it's just easier to do it right.
So I think like people think like, oh, that happened a month ago.
It's gone.
It's not.
And so I do think like over time, the sort of bad actors come out.
But what I learned this weekend is that,
again, not what I learned,
I knew this to be true,
but seeing it in person was great,
is that there are so many more good actors in this space and people who are trying
to sort of build this next level of tech
and whatever it is we're building
because there's a tech,
there's the club aspect,
there's the membership aspect,
there's so many different things.
But there are people building on all angles of this
and there's so many more good people than bad. And, you know, we'll just continue to do our part,
I think, cap and giving those people a platform so that we can make sure that we're highlighting
the right thing. So that, I think that's sort of the direction we're going.
One last point I'll say, I think that's really important is the quality of people at um art basel is directly related to
the cost of entry it meaning like art basel is not a cheap vacation to go on if you're
international you're probably looking at dropping like 10 g's or more if you're you know stateside
you're probably still looking at 5 000 to 10 000 depending on how long you stay and how you want to
do miami so i i think it's an important caveat because you're really kind of getting the
cream of the crop, like in a bear market.
Not, not everybody is in a position to like lay five to $10,000 on a week long
trip to Miami.
You need to get time off if you have a job that's outside web three.
So I think that it's really important to realize like, yeah, I, I do believe,
even though I wasn't there, like I wish I was there for a lot of reasons,
just for the connections and that it really was there for a lot of reasons, just for the connections.
And that it really did seem like a lot of the top operators were there.
And, you know, it's just kind of expensive to go there at this time of the year.
So it looked really fantastic, though.
It really did.
Yeah, no, that's a well-stated point as well.
I'm like, I would even add on that.
Either they, you know, it's a bear and it's, it's a big ask and they, they have to not only the price, but they have to really want to be
there for one reason or another. Right. So to your point, it is a business trip. There were ways,
like you said, it's when you're like, depending on how you want to do Miami. Um, I believe my
hotel was like $127 a night by the airport or something. So I did my best to keep it relatively lean and then go party to party and eat where the
food was free because we're still figuring this thing out in the Bark household.
But it is definitely like a thing where you have to commit.
To me, to your point, though, it's the time alone.
It's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, red eye overnight, daughter's concert on Sunday,
pass out.
And I'm going to be like sprinting this
week at work working late nights and just trying to play catch up with all the stuff i'm working on
so it's not even just that it's the um sort of exercise of going that i think also the time
perspective but um cap i don't know if we want to get in the weeds on sort of either people or
things i'll let you kind of dealer's choice which direction we want to go next.
So I've got notes.
I could go either way.
Do you think it makes sense
so we don't over mitigate our chances
of missing anything
is start from like chronological order.
I know you got in a little before I,
but I was thinking,
at least that's how my notes landed on paper
was just kind of rewinding the week in my brain.
Does that, does that probably make the most sense?
And then as we have speakers on stage here, some were there,
some interacted with kind of go to them as we, we touch on those,
those points in the timeline.
Yeah, let's do that. And let's, let's try to give ourselves hard stop.
I say call it five, two to switch to the one year stuff,
just because I know I have a lot of notes there as well, but yeah, let's go chronological.
I'll, I'll go before, you know, when it was, I got to Miami on Wednesday, BC, that's before
cap cap didn't get until Thursday.
So, you know, got it on Wednesday, immediately ran out to the, to the Drew Barman and on
Shane monkey event.
And, you know, I talked about it a little bit on the show but it was like it was awesome right it was like i went there and it's the sort of convergence of three communities
that i feel so at home with i love the on chain monkey folks i love what they're building i love
that team i used to work there so i know them really well right so that that group of community
members was there got to meet mike good things in person. Love that guy. So got that,
you know,
tons of monkeys because they co-sponsored drew Barman,
obviously throws an amazing event.
And then the DJ network community that was down there,
there was probably in this,
like sort of,
maybe there was like 50 people in this room,
literally like 25% of those people were like DJ network pass holders. So getting to chat with some of the people from the DJ network war room, literally like 25% of those people were like DGN network pass holders. So getting to chat with
some of the people from the DGN network war room, like King Squalo and others, it was like, you
know, Suarez, you know, such a good crew. Johnny Utah is always down there. So, you know, just
getting to chat with those folks was awesome because that's like the community that I chat
with every day in discord. And then to have that IRL was cool. So I mean, the event was really good.
I had a work event I mentioned at 8 PM that I needed to do that.
I wanted to be sharp for.
So I went to a drew Barman event,
which has like the best drinks and the best food and the best everything.
And I had no drinks, but that's okay.
Um, very much enjoyed that.
So for me, that was like the, just, that was a hit Wednesday.
And like, even to the point, like, again, this doesn't happen.
I think in a raging bull market that I was really fortunate we told the story with me and Riggs I got a tap on
the shoulder and it was Justin Mizell from Proof um because I went up and I was like oh my god
Harry's here and I said hi to Harry who we had on the show the the dev you know was talking about
all the dev work they were doing on the back end of Proof and the product stuff and then Justin
tapped me on the shoulder I didn't know he was there and was like hey I'll DM you to see what
you're up to later, which is really cool.
And then I ended up, you know,
Riggs and I ended up getting to hang out with the team and some other, you know,
sort of this like friends gathering
at a hotel bar later on.
I don't think that happens in a bull market.
I think they have other things to do
or they can't make it through.
So just really getting that quality time
to talk to them.
And again, the walk takeaway from that,
it was great to talk more to, you know,
get to know Harry and Justin and all them more.
But, you know, one of their product managers will, will you know get in the chat with him and chatted with
him all night neither of us have an indoor voice it was amazing so that was my sort of wednesday
um again high level takeaways is similar to what we said before which is look like these sort of
interactions these opportunities that we're having we wouldn't necessarily have in a raging bull
market so i'm really glad for that reason i went. So Wednesday happened, and then I'm pretty sure
we pretty much did.
What we do, we might have the conversations.
It's just much harder to filter out the noise, I think.
It's like, I'm sure if we go back
to all the other past conferences,
we had a lot of, maybe the same amount
of great, great interactions or conversations.
There was just a lot of other
noise in between i think it's just it's really clear that the well at least it appears that
most intentions are are pure this time around yeah absolutely and then yeah and and i even think like
i mean you talk about noise that's the other thing is like my big critique of nft nyc that
i went you know i will continue to hammer home is that everyone saw what ape fest did in november
last year and everyone wanted to out ape the apes and the next nft nyc so in june i think most people
had this experience where everyone left exhaust like i left vcon and i left miami feeling energized
i left south by southwest last year feeling energized. I left NFT NYC last year feeling drained because as hoarse as my voice sounds right now, I remember
how funny it was every morning show that we did at NFT NYC, you get like three hours of sleep,
wake up and I would sound just like, I don't know, I was chewing on a, you know, a bag of
thorned roses. I don't know. I'm trying to think of how to describe this scratchy voice I'm running with.
And so it was like everything was allowed a party.
You know, where it just screamed to talk over people.
And every event I went to this in Miami,
and I don't know if the projects are learning
or it's by chance or it's the location.
Every event had some aspect of that,
but it also had areas
where you could have real conversations.
And I think that that was the thing that often was missing in nft nyc that i got this time around which was oh wow i'm having real conversations at these places so i thought that was another
aspect as well um going into thursday obviously we did the show um i had some some meetings so i
was like i took some meetings with some you know some people and had a work day some work day for some projects i'm working on until uh ultimately we connected um for the jpeg
morgan happy hour on uh on thursday i don't know if you want to take it away from uh jpeg morgan
while gala and then we'll run into friday yeah no i miss you all type yeah i was looking for a tweet but i'll go back to it i did drop a
few threads and and some photos in the chat below and we'll continue to add appreciate those others
that have added in there great to uh great to see everyone's beautiful faces and we'll go back
and read the actual threads after the show but uh this was my first jpeg morgan event appreciate
the invite and the plus one it was it really like I guess it kind of sets the tone for the rest of the week in the sense
that it was a, both, you know, an atmosphere, environment, whatever you want to call it,
that was very conducive to networking and talking and, you know, hearing each other.
And I think that, and then also like the quality of people being, you know hearing each other and i i think that and then and also like
the quality of people being you know nines and tens right it was just it was top notch uh all
around we didn't stay there that long but it was when i say set the tone it was another like every
interaction uh was was like wow that was you know an incredible individual or someone that uh can't wait to
follow up with or wow didn't didn't expect to meet them here uh you know shout out to to will
from crypt toys for for making a few introductions and um i steve i am this is awful i'm drawing a
blank this is why i should have took more better notes um i don't want to i don't want to say the wrong name.
Planner of said name. Oh, Michelle Abbs.
Shout out Michelle Abbs.
Yeah.
No, no, I know.
I know.
Like you had like, she looked like, like, like,
I think she like looked like some, like a different name to you or
you're like Michelle, right?
It's like, yeah, Michelle Abbs, who absolutely is such a badass
who plans these events as well as several other events.
And she was killing it.
Yeah. So it was great meeting michelle and thanks for the the assist there uh we just again great great first event and you kind of alluded to nft nyc i know we said we'd go back
to like the the recap but you, but you nailed it when...
I think as you said,
everyone tried to out-ape the apes,
and it was like, who could throw the loudest party?
And there's a time and a place for that,
and I'm not trying to sound like the olds that was...
And actually, not being critical,
because it was also an awesome event,
but if I were to rank all the events I attended,
probably my least favorite in terms of atmosphere
was the Board of Piat Club event that you missed.
Still amazing interactions.
Great people.
Had an amazing time.
But I was like, you had to strain at times to hear those people
because it was loud.
We'll get to the wow event but um i'm at a point i take more out of these in real life events and connections where
you can really have a meaningful conversation and not have to scream or yell to to hear what
the other person's saying not fighting anything everything all of them were great. But I think JPEG Morgan and many of the other events were much more of that laid back atmosphere while still fun. It wasn't like people were having
a bad time. It wasn't like it was boring by any means. It was just more, more conducive to actual
networking. Yeah. And I think, I think a lot of the, these NFT brands are figuring out to them, and I think this is correct, the formula to doing it is probably
do the big loud event on Saturday night.
Like they'll end kind of go out with a bang event,
which I think Doodles actually figured out
in South by Southwest.
So shout out Doodles.
Like, you know, we'll get to that in a second
when we get to the next day.
But I mean, Doodles, I think,
has this mastery of events where
south by and i know people weren't as big of a fan of you know nft nyc in the factory or whatever
but like they sort of did this thing in south by and then again here where it was like hey do a
great experience for your holders that's like super fun and you know kind of like this party
to attend you know spend the money there and then have your rager the night before, like the Diplo party that they had on the last night of South by Southwest.
That was perfect.
Everybody was flying out the next day.
Nobody needed to, you know, nobody was sticking around.
So it was like you were getting your one last hurrah.
And at least for me too, and I've said this before my, my general, um, my general sort of plan at these conferences, I don't drink a ton. Um,
because you know, I'm there to work and I'm not saying you can't like, you know,
get into that or have fun or, or, you know,
I'm not like being like the old man shouting at cloud,
but like just my personal preferences,
I don't sort of get to the point of like slurring my words or anything like
that. Like I usually give myself one night to really,
really have a lot of fun. And it's usually that last last night so convenient for me when those happen that same way of course
that didn't happen um you know i'll have to tell you offline i have an interesting plane story about
that actually sim that it's kind of like that um cap uh later on but um let's let's toss to let's
toss back to josh and then we'll get into hold on real quick for anyone that's scanning pictures i
do want just on the record if you're curious ryan carson is seven feet two inches tall steve and i are not
are not uh short people uh ryan is actually over seven feet tall yeah he actually might be eight
feet tall i believe so uh we are uh we are very tall tall men as well i am definitely not exactly
5 10 um personally so um go, Josh, get back in here.
Yeah, really quick.
One of the things that needs to be thought about that's not being addressed a lot is
beyond the parties where coming from the startup world, I'm very, very familiar with kind of
startups that you see, we work through some monster party and monster getaway and they
happen to have 1010 billion, literally, in funding.
And that may make sense from an ROI standpoint for their business.
But a lot of the mid-sized, earlier-stage startups would often try to emulate these top-tier parties that would compete with a Google or a WeWork or kind of whoever.
or a WeWork or kind of whoever.
And I've just seen a lot of startups
kind of bury themselves
where you have to be really thoughtful with this.
And I think World of Women and Doodles,
probably one, quote one,
like Art Basel,
where I feel like that will probably work really well
for their branding
and their kind of moving forward into the future.
But I think like, you know, for 80 of the nft brands down there like a lot of these events are like six figures like probably
like half a million a million dollars uh you know maybe a quarter million to do it depending on how
you did and you just have to as a company be very thoughtful of what like your bankroll is versus like what the impact of that event is
because um you know like spending a half a million dollars is a big swing and miss
and there are definitely times for brands that they should be thoughtful of like hey you know
what like it may be spending a half a million dollars on something that would directly roi to
the holders might be good but sometimes uh an event will be good. So events are really challenging where, you know, if people have a great time, it's a very good ROI for a company.
And I think like a few of them execute well, but like, you know, just listening to what Franklin
and like 30 other people have said, like, I almost feel like BAYC, like I almost wish they would put
a little bit more money into that event. Because if I remember correctly, I think wish they would have put a little bit more money into that event because if I remember correctly, I think that they rented a place.
I think I got a hold of maybe like the fire marshal regulations.
It might have only been geared for like 5,700 people or something.
I could be wrong on that, so I may be misspeaking, but I know I did somehow come across what the fire code was for their establishment.
come across what the fire code was for their establishment.
And I think it's a really good lesson for NFTs that are really big on the other side
of it of, you know, if someone's paid half a million dollars or a hundred grand for an
ape, and part of that is the expectation that you'll attend these events, it may actually
be worthwhile for Board Ape Yop Club to go the other direction, double down and pick
venues that can accommodate 20 000 people
it so that that's kind of my take on it or um maybe even you know the other brand that does
it really fucking well is gary vaynerchuk like it vcon was done really really well it set up a big
stadium set up breakout rooms where you could talk it so i I think that the takeaway I have here is the ROI can be really good,
but you have to be thoughtful about the experience of the user
and what you want them to take away.
You know, anyone that's listening that might be part of a company,
two really good companies to look at for top-tier event spaces is,
one is the Color Factory that was like a pop-up in New York
that executed really, really well. And it was just different rooms that were different colors. that was like a pop-up in new york that executed really
really well and it was just different rooms that were different colors it was like 40 bucks to go
in i think it was in soho and um you know like my wife and i actually went on one of our first
dates there it was really cool it and the other is meow wolf which is funded by george r mutton
and they make these like fake grocery stores where you like open up the freezer and then you go into
a back room and it's it very very cool experiential style stuff. So anyone throwing an event should always
be thinking about like what the experience they want people to walk away from. Is it like quote
Instagrammable or Twitterable where like, you know, you're going to create experiences that
people will be likely to share and then how that impacts your bottom line. Well, real quick build
on that is I would say another thing I would say that you, that
like I take away from that also is that the importance of like brand when you do it, like
on top of like, and I know that becomes like a cliche word, but to your point, sort of
what you said, Josh, about like, how do your holders feel when they leave an event?
The reason why I say doodles has the consistently sort of the best brand in the space.
Although, I mean, there's obviously, like I said, everybody nailed it this week.
But, dude, and if you, by the way, if you're missing and you're getting FOMO, don't, you know, you haven't missed out on everything.
There's going to be so many events next year, like swing by, come through, like say hi, you know, meet us.
But, you know, we'd love to meet you if you're listening right now.
Like that was actually probably the best part of the weekend for me or the bike when me was meeting people who said they
listened or like talking to them. And especially the people who like, you know, people that we
talk to every day who come up and talk people that we, uh, you know, talk, see in the comments
every day, people who tweeted us, like that was the coolest part because this isn't like an
audience to me, this is a community and you know, everybody here brings so much value. But to your
point, Josh, is that brand is what's
important did people leave with an impression of who you are and i think in this miami upscale
everybody's doing like fancy drinks and doodles is like you know fuck it we're gonna trick out a
putt-putt course and have drinks that have cotton candy in them and every little like that is like a
on-brand doodles event and i think that those sort of things that we saw from like them,
World of Women gala, like this gala with wonderful food and music.
And they did an award show where they were honoring people in the community.
And that was very World of Women.
Like the fact that these brands happen and you nailed it with VFriends,
by the way.
I didn't go to a single VFriends event just because it overlapped,
but I left there thinking VF friends is in really good shape. That community is strong. I met
more V friends down in Miami than probably anything else. And I wonder if they were always there,
but maybe there was a lot of noise around some other projects and things, but I met more V
friends down in Miami than I met at any other conference sans VCon. And it was like, oh man, like this is a,
this is a community that has created amazing sub communities that maybe I
wasn't as participatory participatory as I could be.
But to your point, Josh,
I think the brand that they're putting out in every event and it's why it's
so important. Think through every detail.
When moon birds puts out an event,
everything there felt like that felt like the proof collective.
And I think, you know,
we're all figuring this out,
but everyone's getting better at it.
So I'll toss it to you, Cap.
I saw you come off mute as well.
Yeah, I'll kick it right back to you.
Just want to say great takes.
It is so important to host your party,
your event that's right for your community.
Don't try to outdo someone else.
And in some cases cases i agree with
josh some some brands might actually need to go bigger and this is where like go tying it back to
the other earlier conversation about leaders this is where it's it i can see communities leading in
different ways than others right so so whether it's doodles or oruga or World of Women that have the funding, that have the budgets to go large or even larger and do more to onboard the masses.
In other cases, it's go smaller or more specific to your community that you're building and have that impact.
that you're building and have that impact.
I vividly remember there was a wireless accessory brand
or family of brands or remain nameless
that went to a party at CES in 2018
that was, I don't know,
I would guess one to $2 million.
I don't know exactly,
but it was easily a seven-figure party.
They rented out XS at the win for a night in Vegas and open bar and all that.
So it was a seven-figure party.
They were bankrupt.
They were out of business before the following CES.
And you could see it happening.
It was like, why are they doing this?
It just didn't make any sense.
And it was just part of the train wreck.
It was like, oh, we had a budget.
We got to go spend it.
And it just wasn't.
They tried to, and Apple doesn't do CESs so i can use that as an easy example but
they like tried to out apple apple and in they they had no business trying to play that game
they just they just blew a lot of money on a party whereas some brands like you they need they may
need to go bigger so i think it was just really uh good takes and um you know not every event
should be uh the same certainly and that i know we
got a lot of hands steve so i'll kick it back to you yeah well um let's do this let's do um
let's do uh let's do maybe two we'll do two to three hands and then we'll do mintify update
then we'll kind of roll into uh quick friday reactions then one year anniversary stuff. Let's go Kevin, Goody, Vicky, Dave.
Kevin, GM, sir.
Good meeting you.
GM, GM.
Yeah, it was great to meet you guys and stop by for the coffee stuff.
And the colada thing was insane.
I'd never had those before.
And yet-
You tried to pour one in a real cup, Kevin.
That would have been-
I did.
No, because I was like, what is this?
And she's like, oh, it's just like double black coffee.
And I was like, cool.
So she's like, and then there was no little cups.
And so I just started-
She's like, whoa, like you probably want to stop. Like the host was like, cool. So she's like, and then, so there was no little cups. And so I just started, she's like, whoa, like you probably want to stop.
Like the host was setting it up.
And then she shows these little shot glasses that look like symbols.
And I was like, whoa.
And she then took a couple of sips and I was like, oh, it's pretty strong.
And I was like, I'll just, you know, pound that.
And, you know, so whatever, probably like five symbols of it.
And then, or symbols of equivalent.
And then I was like, oh, I'll just pull her a normal cup of coffee.
And I walked outside and like, you sort of had those like dreams of like launching off.
And yeah, my blood sugar glucose meter went crazy which was probably
fun to watch um but it was fun two quick points i think maybe three um i think it was cool for us
being docs like we got frank and i got to meet a ton of people that we had like been waiting to
meet and partly because now like people would recognize us and see us and then be like hey
stop us and got to go to a bunch of events like frank was saying on his space last night he did
a quick recap space it was like just got access to a bunch of events. Like Frank was saying on his space last night, he did a quick recap space.
It was like just got access to a bunch of stuff that we never would have got access to.
We were like, hey, come with me through this, let's go to that,
and got to meet a bunch of other founders in the space,
and that was really encouraging.
He got to have like an hour-long conversation with Beeple and his club,
which was just sort of insane.
But agree, like pivoting to the venues,
like some of the venues are just there to lose your voice.
And like trying to have a conversation when you see somebody like is like nearly impossible.
And then you wake up in the morning regretting it because your voice is sort of gone.
But the party scene, sort of the arc of like crazy to chill, you know, we sort of saw this in the dot com years.
Right. You know, go back 20 years and, you know, you saw these companies that were just constantly like, oh, I raised money party.
It was like, what? Like literally they were having parties for like,
you know, just inventing reasons to have parties.
And I think there was a version of that
in like last year's Basel
where like the events were just that much extreme.
We were super undoxed and super quiet back then.
But I think like the idea of that sort of thing
was a lot better this year in some sense
and that we were talking to builders
and it was a lot of, you know,
a lot more spray in terms of the coverage that we could go out without having the hype around
it but i do think the one thing that we think a lot about with our events talking about like budget
and price is like you know it's the people that don't come right because more than likely no
matter where you host an event in single event like if you're a community of you know 10,000
or 4,000 or so many thousand holders generally you're going to have some small percentage that
actually can attend.
And so it's like the friend circles around that that end up attending.
And so for us, we're trying to move to a model that is more decentralized
where it's like, hey, we've got, you know,
50 or 60 Telegram chats across all these cities and we can organize events.
Like, so we're going to try to do this like a little bit of cheap,
but like break the internet thing with like the finals for,
for soccer where it's like hey the world cup
and say hey how do we have like a simultaneously event for all the holders and all those cities
and they can all just go you know just basically announce where you're going to watch the world
cup and then let people consolidate right with the idea being that hey they all get to participate
if they want and then it's like even if it's your house and you have a friend over um but the the
idea for us as frank always says is like look it's not the billboard it's the picture of the billboard that goes viral on twitter that is always says, is like, look, it's not the billboard.
It's the picture of the billboard that goes viral on Twitter that is the best for our business.
It's global. It's like the best way to like sort of bring the whole community together.
And so for us really trying to create ideas and, you know, part of every party that we do have or event is like, what is that sort of tweetable moment that sort of can go viral?
And so we always try to do something that sort of creates like, oh, that's the memorable thing that happened, you know, sort of like, you know,
extends the party to everybody at home that maybe didn't go.
Kevin, I will never forget the tweet about your blood glucose monitor going off after the coladas.
In fact, could be life changing. Like I am not joking. I'm going to be ordering a blood glucose
monitor today for the bit, if no other reason. But yeah, no, you're exactly right.
And it was the last night I got a chance to connect with Frank.
And man, he is exactly who he is online.
Very refreshing.
And we even hit on working backwards from the tweet and how powerful that is from just
a mentality of a owning that mind
share and in capturing virility it's just it's um just you know a couple of the great interactions
this week and yeah it was it was awesome to connect and thanks for the uh the memorable tweet
and and glad that you did not fill the whole cup with the colada because if we killed kevin
from d gods it would have been a bad look for us on our morning show so i don't know it was early in
the morning would have been able to get an uber and an ambulance quickly so like it wasn't that
we hadn't gone to like miami gridlock traffic which was insane right the amount of time sitting
in uber so speaking of ubers i'm gonna put you on the spot but before i do i'm gonna make a
confession here this morning because it's it's not exactly like yours but it it has to do with getting getting home and so steve i haven't even
told you yet this is the first time sharing this story out loud so this this could be a crash and
burn or one of those memorable moments on coffee with captain we will see but the last night the
board api club event it was awesome uh it was late. Most of you know my bedtime is like 9 p.m., which was when the event started.
So standing in line, get in there, and go till 3 in the morning.
It's not that I haven't done that before.
I've done it many times in my life.
But it's also been probably a good decade since I've ran back-to-back-to-back nights like that.
Not that Steve and I are out till 3 every night.
But it was three nights, four nights, way past bedtime so it's it's late in the morning i was smart because when i parked there
i parked on the street and i actually dropped a pin in my google maps i was like well it's gonna
be late um downtown i'm not familiar with the area so i'm gonna make sure i don't forget where
i parked my car right so i walk out of this board, a PIO club event at like, I don't know, three in the morning and now Google navigate to my car. I walk for like, I don't know, 20,
25 minutes, three in the morning in Miami. There's some like accident, there's cops everywhere. It
was like, it was quite the scene I should have had. This would have been like the time to be
vlogging. And I'm thinking this whole time, like, man, I don't remember parking this far away,
but Google's never wrong. So long story short, I get to my car, or rather I get to quote unquote my car in downtown
Miami.
It was certainly not my car, rather some very clever troll who had created a listing on
Google called my car that Google took me to at three in the morning.
So then I actually found my car and walked back the, I don't know, 20 minutes.
So that was my getting home story, the final night in Art Basel.
Kevin, do you mind sharing yours?
Yeah, we've had a bunch.
I think it was funny, like, you know,
so there's this new company, Teleport, on Solana.
They actually had a thing.
And so I would load up all of them.
I would have, because we were generally with a lot of folks,
and I was sort of like Uber guy.
And so we'd have sometimes two or three Ubers.
And, you know, you'd load up like Lyft, Uber and, um, and teleport. And then it would
just be this sort of race of like, how can you meager through the city to get away from the
traffic? Um, but we started cheating at some of them and just keeping the Ubers cause we were
ended up moving for events so quickly. Um, and so in some cases we just left them parked and,
uh, you know, it ended up being cheaper because, being cheaper because trying to get them, wait, cancel, and stuff like that.
But yeah, I had one where a friend dropped me off, and I thought I was close, and somehow I got it wrong, and so I ended up walking 10 blocks back into Wynwood, which was interesting.
Well, I don't know what this says about us.
Frank said there's some sort of bromance brewing.
Maybe it has something to do with our challenges getting home.
I didn't realize you had multiple Uber stories.
I was actually just referencing the one you threw out about getting to the airport yesterday.
Oh, that was the wrong airport.
Oh, yeah.
So I woke up in the morning, hit the Uber to MIA, got to MIA, cruised into clear like a boss, scanned it, doesn't scan, doesn't scan, whatever.
Go back to the app.
Oh, it must be the United app.
Doesn't scan, doesn't scan.
The lady's like, sir, that's a Fort Lauderdale ticket.
I was like, oh, shit.
Totally forgot that I booked out of a different airport.
So grab another Uber and then, yeah, got to head back to Fort Lauderdale
and caught my flight.
Luckily, they had cleared TSA pre and all that stuff there
and made it through in a few minutes.
But, yeah, that one was also quite memorable.
So, yeah, I have a bunch.
This is my –
All kinds of life alpha this morning on coffee.
Two things I want to hit on.
First, this will be my regular plug for Clear.
If you travel regularly and you don't have Clear,
it is such a hack.
It is unbelievable to cut the line and just like,
you know, especially if you're flying out in the morning
or at night and there's long lines
and you're just like, I just want to get in.
And they have it at certain stadiums.
I believe my brother got into the Yankee game or like cut the whole line to get in. And they have it at certain stadiums. I believe my brother got into the Yankee game
or like cut the whole line to get in the Yankee stadium at one point.
Quick reset of the room.
Caught me with Captain.
Run this thing back every Monday through Friday at 8 a.m.
for over a year now, which is really exciting.
Before we actually, because I know we're cutting close to the 9 o'clock hour,
I want to point out something Kevin said there that was like really noteworthy
that I didn't want to get buried in the Miami stuff.
That concept, because Chris Hottle, I saw you out there,
the decentralized comment also saw the wave there from Annabelle.
It was great seeing you at the Doodles piece, Doodles event.
He talks about the centralized event.
Chris Hottle had asked in the chat about like,
what do you guys think of decentralized events?
I think that that concept is amazing because you know the best part about nft
communities is they're nowhere and they're everywhere at the same time and i think having
those decentralized sort of uh communities and opportunities to to connect i think are really
really huge so i love that you're organizing that we were complaining on this show not complaining
obviously but like critiquing on this show and actually started on Riggs' show, which he does at noon every day, where we had this conversation,
like, look, like these NFT brands talk about community, but how many of them are making
actual efforts to connect the community together outside of their one big event?
So I think that that's like a big sort of bullish piece that you mentioned there.
So the decentralized events, they didn't want that to get lost in the shuffle.
I know we're talking Miami, but that was a great, I piece that you mentioned there. So the decentralized events, they didn't want that to get lost in the shuffle. I know we're talking Miami,
but that was a great, I think, big picture point.
One other thing.
I see we have a lot of hands.
We have Mintify here.
Is there anybody who has a hard stop
at or right around nine with a hand up?
Raise your hand like three times.
Jack's good.
Dave, Goody, nobody, Vicky, good.
Okay, what I'm going to do is I'm going to make a decision.
We're going to go to Mintify here
to get our sponsored update.
And then we will go down around back to hands because I want to make sure that i wanted everyone to speak i didn't want anyone to have to jump down but
knowing that everyone's good to go mintify uh gm sir how are you doing uh looking forward to
meeting you in person at one of these events soon good morning good morning thank you yeah
um really nice to hear that everybody
had a good time and same to you. I appreciate it very much. Hopefully I can make it down
for the next one or maybe not down, maybe out. I mean, I'm in New York, so maybe the
next one will be in Cali or something. We'll see. But let's check out the market update
for today and this weekend. The total market volume 21.2 mil the highest last
sale crypto punk 41 81 for 148.5 eth the top three collections based on volume board apes just under
1k eth traded 960 traded 69.69 ETH floor price.
Mutants, just another one just under 1K traded, 950 ETH traded, 13.8 ETH floor price.
And CloneX, 419 ETH traded, 7.2 ETH floor price.
The top gainers, Chromes with a 0 and a 4, up 670% and Vandals Buy up 220%.
Now, both of those are pretty low floor price, so not too hard to make those gains.
Top losers, Crypto Monkeys down 25% and Emblem Vault down just under 25%.
Noteworthy market updates.
Chinese court asserts that NFTs are virtual property and should be protected by
law and telegram announces the development of non-custodial wallets and decentralized exchanges
both of those uh somewhat as a result of the ftx fallout so it's pretty interesting the things
that are going to be developing over the next um and years. The market stats, global crypto market cap,
just under 860 bill. Bitcoin dominance, 38.29%. Open interest, 6.44 billion. Fear and greed,
26. With Bitcoin and Ethereum both ranging on the highs right now, Bitcoin at 17,220 and Ethereum at 1285.
Both of them up around 2% and 3% on the day with the S&P coming down from the highs,
but still on the highs, 4,062 down 0.32%.
Thank you very much.
Thanks as always.
Good to get the update and appreciate the China property thing there is
super interesting. Knowing that at least that is as far as I'm aware, I believe that that's how
it's done in the United States is it's sort of treated as property up to a certain amount.
I know that my ApeCoin, I believe my accountant said they're putting that on regular income,
which when you're independently working, that sucks because that means you're going to pay a lot more on the back end versus a quick one-time capital gains or could be bad.
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So appreciate you for that.
Let's keep running around to hands.
Then we'll get into Friday
or maybe even when we put a pin in Friday,
we give something teased to tomorrow
and we can switch to the one year
because I definitely want to hit on some of that stuff, Cap,
because I have some thoughts on our one year. Cause I definitely want to hit on some of that stuff cap. Cause I have some, some,
some thoughts on,
on our one year and things we've learned.
Let's go,
let's go Goody,
Vicky,
Dave,
Punter,
Jack in that order.
Goody GM,
sir.
It's nice to have you guys back in action.
And I'm glad that Twitter spaces did not rug this morning,
whatever was going on over the weekend absolutely sucked. So I'm so happy to wake up and have you guys just here. I just wanted to kind of add on to what Josh had said before and expand on it a little bit. It might not be a popular opinion, but I don't necessarily think that a lot of these events should be for holders.
When I was working against startups in Silicon Valley, we didn't necessarily, especially unless we, like Josh said, kind of raised a lot at once.
And even then, didn't necessarily all the time throw events for ourselves or for our existing investors but you
go and you sponsor events that put yourself in front of new investors new faces and new customer
bases and i think that like correct me if i'm wrong but doodles putt putt was open to all dude
all people not just doodles holders yeah but it was it was hard to get in though i mean like you needed a tea time
and there was overflow but um doodles holders i think i don't know if there were a lot of people
who got in who weren't holders i would say that you could get in it was like 30 bucks to get in
or whatever and then to play you had to like probably wait a few hours so it's like when we
went through through there was like 30 bucks to go through and then they said hey you know come
back in three hours if you wanted to kind of but it was hard yeah okay so exactly exactly though like you could go in as a person steve
referenced it earlier made it made an uh i'm not going to dox them or or or blow them up but
there is an alternate way the one of the the hardest working hustlers in in the nft space
content creator out there just grinding and um working working hard to get the media credentials in through uh the doodles tour so
i'm not gonna i'm not gonna blow up their spot but it was it was part of that uh respect the
hustle that steve referenced earlier the i mean cap i wish i could have gone for for my video
content you know that i was putting some stuff out uh while while you guys were they would have let you they would have let you in because you
would have showed up like with the the overalls with no shirt underneath and they would have in
in that you know rocking that hair they wouldn't have been able to to say no they wouldn't have
been able to turn me down but but all i was saying was like if you're gonna spend this much money to
throw an event to to you know show out wouldn this much money to throw an event to, to, you know,
show out, wouldn't you want to put your event in front of people that aren't necessarily a part of
your community already? Like ingratiate yourself with more people. Like I understand the concept
of return on investment to holders. And I, you know, understand the free ticket being a part of
that return on investment is something that everybody
expects. But isn't it a better return on investment if your floor price goes up because
you got 500 new holders into the project on a given night because your event was so cool and
was so open to new people? That's kind of where i feel like this money
should be focused to a certain extent or at least like more focused than just like these parties
kind of competing against one another to see which project hosts the biggest thing if they're
gonna do that cool but see which project hosts the biggest thing for new members, for new people that don't hold the NFT that could potentially buy into the project and become a new member of the community.
Like, that's what I feel like these events should be geared towards rather than, you know, just being a party reward for holding from January till December.
from January till December, like the reward for holding from January to December is that,
you know, the project is going to continue to market, continue to build and continue to drive
new audience members to the project. And that's what's going to quote unquote, return your
investment when the floor price ends up eventually going up from new buyers. So in general, I just
like, and I know that's somewhat of an unpopular opinion, but I just find that we're spending far too much on like momentary hype or good feelings rather than like further progressing a lot of the, the event for a lot of the week. So there's a dichotomy of feeling there for sure.
But I just think that it was a lot of money spent for the same people that are already in your community and already supporting you.
Get new support.
Yeah, I don't disagree. I did see a lot of the other, though.
Respectfully, I did see a lot of new people at at multiple events the effort was
there i i do think the all the you know the the optimal event is one that yes you can reward
holders while also onboarding new users and you know steve's seen some events like that i mean
we were even talking like like the doodles event like leave it up like make it a permanent fixture
in miami it's it'd be the best putt-putt experience in Miami. It's, it's multiple opportunities for Instagrammable, you know,
pictures and photos. And, um, you know, I know there's rent and there's payroll, there's obviously
ongoing costs, but you know, that was an example that, you know, I know Steve and I talked about
that would be great to see that not just, you know, maybe it's kicked off with the event like
it was, uh, rewarding those holders and then, maybe it's kicked off with the event like it was,
rewarding those holders and then becomes a fixture in the community.
But Steve, I'll kick it back to you and then the rest of the hands.
Yeah.
Let's keep running hands.
Let's go to, I believe, Dave, then Vicky, then Punter in that order.
Dave, go ahead and get in here.
Hey, GMGM.
Glad you guys had an awesome
time in Miami. I wish I could be there. But I have to say, like, I agree 100% with Goody.
Like, I honestly feel that like the events are great. And I've been to a lot of them as well.
Like I went to VCon. You know, I went to Proof in LA and a whole bunch, you know.
you know i went to proof in la um and a whole bunch you know
you guys can still hear me um so like like i i think that at the end of the day when i look at
a lot of these projects they haven't we're not at the point where they've actually accomplished
what they set out to accomplish we're still in like inning, right? And I feel like it's a little premature to have all these big events,
unless, to Goody's point, you're doing it to attract new holders
or awareness to the project, and then I think it's a good ROI.
Now, I do think that having events for networking makes sense.
I don't think you need to spend a ton of money on that.
Like, I think all people want to do is get together in a location with holders or, and it doesn't even
have to be, you know, always the same holder just to network and talk. I don't think you need to
spend, you know, half a million, a million dollars to do that kind of thing. I mean, maybe even it's
a matter of getting a bunch of projects together,
sharing in the cost so that, you know,
a number of them, you know,
can have that networking across communities as well.
Maybe there are certain areas,
but I don't think you need to spend that money unless you're going to get new holders.
Because like at the end of the day,
if I bought into a project, you know, at the beginning,
you know, one of my criteria wasn't, you know,
who's going to hold the best and biggest party. Like, that's not what's out for me. It's a
technology for me. It's, you know, what it's going to do in terms of, you know, enabling and helping
society and moving the space forward. And obviously an ROI is important, but I know that's
my two cents. I feel like events are important i i'm not convinced
that spending that kind of money makes a whole lot of sense um that's just my two cents well i think
it i think it depends on goals though like and so like what is the purpose of an event like having
an actual purpose and thought as you approach it so i think like you know off the top um you know
like doodles spends a million dollars on a putt-putt, but they're going to be all over,
like the return investment they get from like a branding perspective within the NFT community,
I think is probably worth it. I'm not saying in dollars and cents, like people buying Doodles,
but they're sort of building blocks and building this pyramid of like who we are, this house of
who we are. And so I think it depends on the goal, right? Them spending a million dollars,
that's generally, anybody can get in, like we were saying,
but like mostly, you know, it's holders saying,
like, this is what we're here for.
I think that's one part.
The other thing I would say is that, you know,
these events do have plus ones for a reason.
And they do have cross-community events,
to your point, for a reason.
And to me, cross-community is a great way to spend it
because you can mingle communities that have common values.
Again, we saw that with OnchainMonkey, Drew Barman,
kind of doing their thing with RickhouseDow.
But like beyond that, I think plus one is the extension there.
Now, maybe they could give a plus two or whatever.
They have the venue size.
I get it.
But I think, you know, when you look at it,
the most like the highest thing.
So there's this thing called the trust index that they used to do.
I don't know if they still do it.
And the highest thing on the trust index by far, understandably, is recommendation from
a friend or family member, right?
Then it's like news media is up there because they're a third party validation.
Ads are obviously very low.
But recommendation from a friend or family is off the charts, the highest thing on the
trust meter.
So to me, it's like when you do a plus one or even if you, again, offered plus two,
plus whatever that is, that is your opportunity to bring other people in from the, you know,
from the community. Because again, Cap and I were attached to the hip this week. Um, you know,
in fact, like, you know, teasing our one year anniversary show, I think I, I sent a DM, I was
DMing with my buddy, um, everyday John. And I spent, said I spent 90% of my waking hours with
Chris and it fucking ruled was what I said so
like you know to me like I brought him to events where maybe he didn't have a token um and I
similarly could sometimes go to events as plus ones where I don't have a token those things I
think are where you get that sort of cross community so um you know to me that's the way
I would do it versus saying opening to the public and they're confused like bring a friend or family
member at this stage is probably the right move I think those larger venues more open to the public and they're confused like bringing a friend or family member at this stage is probably the right move i think those larger venues more open to the public will make more
sense when board a yacht club throws a giant coachella like festival really great and and
those that don't have a plus one incorporated into their events are missing it and i know there there
has been some critique on that like it should go to holders i think that is that is that is a miss if
there's no ability to invite others because to your point it's onboarding others there was a lot
of people a lot of people at the board api club event on saturday night that were not even into
nfts someone local you know holder invited them local so we see all i i met almost every event
there was a lot of people that were not into into that project or that community but i think even
more so is exactly what you said it's the cross community pollination that we get with a lot of people that were not into into that project or that community but i think even more so is exactly what you said it's the cross community pollination that we get with a lot of these plus
ones thank you by the way and everyone if you're listening in the other alphas find yourself a
steve find yourself a uh someone that'll let you tag along as a good plus one i think cap literally
sent him calendar invites for like i had a calendar invites on my calendar weeks in advance and even
one of the funny moments when you talk about the organization difference,
cap was registering for NFT now.
So we could go like,
you know,
do the art blocks thing and all the other stuff that day.
And I'm like,
Oh my God,
I don't know if I actually registered for this,
even though I already got my 90 CC shirt registered from,
from G money and all that.
Again,
awesome.
We were able to run into G money.
But,
but yeah,
Steve had registered twice,
like weeks in advance. i did it walked up
and did it the day of yeah i'm like i'm like oh did i register for this and then check my email
for emails i'm like oh i registered for this like three weeks ago so um yeah no i definitely like
love it like sent it and i wouldn't have it any other way it's like you know sort of like again
our yin and yang and it was hilarious but like i'm like all right here's our schedule cap and
just kind of like sent it along to him and we made it work.
But no, I know, Josh, you had a quick thought
you want to get in before we went down to Vicky.
So go ahead.
Yeah, I think that the events
need to be thoughtfully curated.
And this is something that I think
a lot of people miss out on
is you have to understand
what the purpose of the event is
and then reverse engineer from there.
And the best examples I can give to you
are car events.
So if I buy a Bugatti and I
drop $2 million, one of the biggest value adds of owning a Bugatti is I'm going to be around other
Bugatti owners. And now I'm not going to be around 30,000 of them because there's not going to be
that many members of the club. But for that, I'm probably doing that part for biz dev, part for
networking, part to be around a very elite group of people. That's going to be somewhat similar if you go to Soho House, if you go to a Mon Club
in New York, if you go to Friars Head Golf Course.
These are all like apex premium style experiences where you're designed to be around those other
people.
Now, contrast this with Mazda Miatas, which are one of the most affordable cars you can
buy, but they have this amazing kind of community
that's all about like kind of racing
and the cars aren't really super fast,
but they're kind of nimble and fun.
And for 20 grand, you can get in
and like you might just be really into cars and be there.
So I think that there are some events
that would do amazing being open to the public.
But if your brand is really kind of basing the value around like curated networking
events or exclusivity, which is punks, which is apes, which is things of that nature, then you
need to make sure to meet your buyers where they are. And you need to be like thoughtful to curate
events that make sense for that. And I do think like a lot of newer brands probably should have
like open doors to the community. A lot of really exclusive brands, it should probably be curating things that are in line
with what their kind of group of people wants to exhibit.
So like if you drop 400 grand on an ape because you're really excited about a warehouse party
and then you can't get into the warehouse party, you'd have to wait like three hours
in a line.
That's a disconnect.
So I think it's always like reverse engineering what you want to accomplish but the key is going into it thoughtfully yeah thinking
about like what your purpose is is always something that i've again that's why i think doodles is so
smart about it they're branded they're thoughtful that purpose wasn't just to like throw a big putt
putt thing for holders the purpose was to show off their chops and sort of this world they're
trying to create and color the world with joy and everything that they're doing so um let's go to uh i think we were going vicky punter then we'll
go down to outer than jack uh vicky get in here gm gm everybody happy one year guys it's been
it feels like longer but i actually while i was listening i actually wrote out my rant because it just makes it slightly easier.
So as we talked about events last week, it's really so important to bridge that gap with the whole community,
not just a couple of hundred who have money or the accessibility.
And we need to make people feel included, which isn't why we created web3 decentralization in the first place
but yet we still continue to token gate communities events merchandise moving forward for 2023 i
really hope that all the founders and people that have a large voice in the community really start
to think about how they can include all of their people around the whole world so
that we don't just have the same people and the same voices every single event because i don't
really think that's going to move us forward um two more points uh final thoughts were what did
your community members get from your project this year in terms of face-to-face interaction so that they in turn
can promote your project and go to new people and bring new people in because they're excited
because of that interaction and my final thought would be a pro tip for any project next year with
all the events that will come up next year go sponsor a coffee shop for the fucking whole event
that anyone can enter.
You don't have to be a Doodles or a Bored Ape
or somebody with pink hair.
You sponsor a local coffee shop.
Anyone can attend.
So us older people can literally drop it.
It doesn't even have to be free fucking coffee.
Just hire a coffee shop out.
We can come in, we can sit in we can sit we can really interact
and i'll tell you what i bet that that will be some of the best interactions that some people
will ever have at these conference events vicky let's not lose our negotiation power it should
be a free fucking coffee go ahead cap i don't disagree and i want to give some credit here
because i while not a coffee shop i think they did did, in my opinion, they were the MVPs of Art Basel.
And they did the best job of what you were describing.
Oh, I know what you're about to say, Cap.
They didn't.
There was no token gate anywhere.
There was no charge anywhere.
It was free at every single event that i went to i i think i'm sure there was some
that wasn't there but it's they did such a good job of being everywhere it seemed like they were
everywhere and that's that's ape water and ape beverage it was they they won the event they
crushed it from a marketing standpoint i would love to know what their spend was because in my
in my head their spend their marketing spend this for this art basil was the product was was the
the the product they gave away and in the in the sweat equity and being there and showing up and
and being friendly and and maybe i'm wrong Maybe they cut a check to go along with those sponsorships.
I'm making some assumptions here I shouldn't be.
But I'm assuming that they contributed product
to all these events we saw them at.
They had the truck I just dropped out in the chat
that was out on the streets giving away waters.
And it was...
I apologize, I'm missing you said it.
Someone said that you should create an event that's memorable that the community members are talking about weeks from now. they they like someone said i apologize i'm missing you said it someone said like
that you should create an event that's memorable that the community members are talking about
weeks from now i'll be talking about ape water and ape beverage weeks from now
yeah that was that's a really good point cap that like to vicky's point there um i i saw them at
every event again having things for the non-drinkers or a spacer for the drinkers or just
being able to stay hydrated and being able to i mean the amount of social media play they probably got from that within
the community was like i mean it's like doodle spends a million dollars on putt putt and all
the other things and then like you see what they get then meanwhile ape water is everywhere because
you're just so pumped to be like picking one up and oh my god it's free and like like even places
that had cash bars it's like i'm like hey
i want to get a water and they just hand you an ape water it's like oh these are free and like
lined up in every single bar that i saw so um big ups to ape water for that like really really
thoughtful on how they went about that totally agree um let's run to a puncher than outer than
jack gm gm i popped up to talk about the one-year stuff, so maybe I can recycle Steve in line for
that. But I will say a lot of great points this morning. Hearing what Vicky had to say and Josh
is always amazing. I know Steve had a great time because he was texting me last night about how
amazing it was. So not name dropping there, but if he comes back that fired up, I know it was
truly important.
So, yeah, happy one year.
Steve, can I cycle in when we segue over to that part of the conversation?
Because I feel like the conference talk for me is a little bit –
I'm done talking about that per se.
Yeah, sure.
There's a chance, Cap.
I don't know if we're going to end up going all the way tomorrow in one year.
I'm like, hey, at 8.55, let's switch to one-year stuff.
But I know there's a lot of hands and we always want,
the best part about our one year is we had an alive in-person coffee
essentially on our one year anniversary. It actually fell on a Saturday.
So call it the day before. And both of us either forgot,
didn't think of it. We're just not, not going, we're not,
we're thinking elsewhere or outward. I don't know. And then people at the event like congratulated us and reminded us that it was
i think it was jeremy afterwards reminded us on our on our anniversary so yeah we we did our
basically our effectively our one-year show and didn't even mention it yeah totally punter your
first hand if we do get to one year today if not we'll uh we'll run it down to uh to that but to
punter's point you talk about you know one of the things i was mentioning last night is like i'm so grateful i just want to make sure i say this
out loud i'm so grateful to have such a supportive spouse in these situations my wife is unbelievably
the mvp of my life i made sure i was telling cap i actually knew that by the end of the week she
was going to be dragging a little bit so i had some flowers delivered on saturday so i knew that
was the last day before i got home and you, just want to make sure I sent a note that
was like, I love you. Thank you. And I want to make sure I say it out loud when I have a room
300 people, because the example I gave Hunter last night was I was notes or Steve will make
you feel bad in the future when he continues to do his good deeds. And you're just like,
that was that was nice, Steve. I didn't do any of that. It was, um, I mean, she had, you know,
the kids and the dog and everything.
And I've been traveling so much.
And, you know, I know how important it is.
And she lets me chase my dream unequivocally with no pressure.
And, like, the example I gave was the G-Money event we went to on Saturday.
It wasn't cheap for those shirts, right?
And I remember I was like, I want to do the tech.
And I want to experience it.
I want to see what it's like.
And this stuff's important to me.
And as sort of like a person in the space, like plus G money might be there.
Sure enough, he was, we got to meet G money after he doxed.
Right.
Cause I was like, maybe we'll get to meet him when he was on docs.
And my wife looks at me and I'm like, but I don't know if I want to spend the money
and money's again, money's not, it's, it's, it's tighter right now for us.
Right.
I'm like doing all this travel, you know, I'm stringing together all these jobs and
Mrs.
NFT bark looks at me and I tell her how much the G money shirt costs. And she goes,
well, haven't you spent that on other NFTs? And I was like, well, yeah. And she's like,
well, if you want to experience it, like go do that. Like it's important that you're doing this.
Like she pushed me and nudged me into spending an absurd amount of money on a shirt because I
wanted to experience it. I wanted to go, I wanted to potentially meet someone in a space who I admire. And you know, it's like that sort of support goes
beyond saying, I'm allowing you to do this, or I'm even encouraging you to do this. I'm telling
you to go chase this. And that means the world to me. So I don't even know if she's out there
listening because she's not, since we don't interact on Twitter, ironically, Mrs. NFT Bark
gets buried down further in the people in the room.
So I don't know if she's in or not, but just appreciate her so much, regardless if she's here or not.
It's like means the world to me that she gives me those opportunities.
And then, you know, seeing her last night, obviously, or when I got in, you know, this morning, technically, or Sunday morning, technically, was just unbelievable.
So let's go. Sorry, can I just add one more quick piece? And yeah, shout out to
Mrs. NFT Bark and all the all the significant others out there that that let us you know,
I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again, that let us do what we do and support us.
Just one real quick thing that popped back into my mind, Steve, just make sure to be keeping every
single receipt, every hotel, every Uber, every, you know, I know, I know you probably have this,
but anybody who's doing work in Web3, whether you're consulting for a project or whatever,
like make sure you're handing all that stuff to your accountant at tax time. Cause all of this
stuff is a business expense and I'm done talking. Yeah. A hundred percent. I'm, I'm putting everything
down as a business expense. It's not going to help as much as I hope, but it's certainly going
to help a little bit takes to take away the sting of the taxes when tax time comes around.
Let's run it down to, let's go Outer, and then Jerry,
then we'll come back to Goody, and then we will shift over Outer GM.
Or Jack, I'm sorry, Jack, you were next in line after Outer.
GM, GM.
Oh, my God, one year.
One year.
This is wild.
This is wild.
I definitely want to give you guys a ton of flowers here.
Like some of the most supportive people in the space and incredible role models.
So I'm super excited that we've come to the year.
And yeah, absolutely.
Shout out to Miss NFT Bark.
That's awesome.
And also shout out to Jerry's Jen and shout out to Divide.
You know, it's an any other spouse. Absolutely. Um, I wanted to
chime in on the events thing. Um, I kind of like, I know we're talking a lot about event purpose,
but one of the things that I can't help but think about is when you're a team for a project,
you kind of have to think about your customer segments right like who are the holders and and
and what are their kind of you know personas if you will so you have your holders and then you
have another group that are non-holders and in the non-holders you have the dgens which means that
the non-holders that know about nfts and then you have the public which are people that do not know
about nfts that are non-holders and so when you have an event that's exclusive for holders,
you're obviously meeting a need of showing appreciation for your holders.
When you do something that's plus one,
you're also including potentially non-holders,
but that are de-gens in the NFT space
or somehow are probably aware of it
in the form of the fact that they're coming with you, right?
So I think the biggest thing for me
is when you then think
about like how do you reach the public and i don't think that reaching the public per se if you're
doing it with intent to you know acquire new holdership from public that's not aware of nfts
at all um i don't think that's done at any of these events at all i think you got to be like
really creative and think about what it means to actually like get outside of that so if you're
exhibiting your nft project where can you do it that's not an nft or even crypto event right like
is there a museum event is there an art event is there like some kind of culturally relevant place
where you could put your project um to meet that particular segment right and i think that's
ultimately like if you're thinking about it that way, then you can understand the way that these different segments communicate and what they potentially would want out of an event.
And I think most projects have been focusing on holdership and that's OK.
But I think eventually it'll be good to kind of brand out and really think about some of these other like, you know, sub segments, if you will, and think about like what an experience looks like for them.
like, you know, sub segments, if you will, and think about like what an experience looks like
for them. Yeah, I think that's I think that's smart. And I think really the only ones that I've
seen do it, you know, relatively successfully, like thinking outside of their own holder base
is would be like, again, I'll bring up doodles again, why I love them so much. You know, when I
was in South by Southwest, I remember I was standing in line and I was this is where I was
not prepared. I was like, I'm going to register my doodle tomorrow on a Sunday. Cause I was busy on a
Sunday. And then it turned out that Sunday night registration closed. So I missed that. I wasn't
paying close enough attention. So for the doodle thing in South by Southwest, I waited in the
overflow line for like 45 minutes or so. And the people I got to know online, cause I'm a big
advocate of getting to know people in anywhere. I'm that I'm a weirdo who like literally, I got
it by the way, really creative answer on my plane. I'm that I'm a weirdo who like literally I got it, by the
way, really creative answer on my plane. I always ask flight attendants what their favorite place
they visited was while they're getting my drink or my food or whatever, because I find it so
interesting. I got a Billings, Montana for the first time. Usually it's like a big city. So
anyway, that aside, I was getting to know the people in line as we were getting ready for
doodles. And like, the people were like, we're just down here in Austin Austin and we want to check this thing out and then when they walked out I'm like
what'd you think they're like that was really fucking cool and so like they've sort of done
it a little bit but yeah I think like we need more what Audra just did is she thinks in a bit
with a business mentality she thinks like a consultant she thinks like a marketer she thinks
like a business person I think a lot of these projects, you know, thinking that way is going to, again, we just,
we heard it from Kevin this morning.
He's thinking about ways to do exactly what Vicky said, whereas like decentralized events
and how can we fund people around the world and help them have both mini and mega events
in other places that maybe isn't just one big party everyone flies to.
Like that thoughtfulness is thinking through your various customer segments in different
ways and understanding it. So I think really well said outer yeah i just maybe chime back in like
one one example in case people are listening that are more in the practical and then the hypothetical
is like for um like the hash masks project where you can name them there's an opportunity to go to
different like museums and say hey maybe you could have your members you know
name masks to leave a legacy or whatever that is completely like a segment of people that don't
know anything about nfts or anything like that because the only utility that we're selling there
to them would be the naming part they don't care about the fact that it's an nft project that's
kind of not even the point right so thinking outside the box of what your project offers, like there's just so much there
that I don't think has been tapped yet.
But also to that point that as a holder,
you may not even know about it
unless there's an announcement
because you are not the target in the first place, right?
So it's kind of, yeah, you know, like twofold in that way.
Like if there's all these initiatives done
and they don't have a lot to do with you as the holder,
you know, then, then,
then it's not about you showing up to any of these anyways, but yeah,
I'll, I'll stop there.
Really well said out or as always appreciate you.
And thanks for the kind words in the one year,
which it's very appropriate on our one year anniversary that we end up
diatribing down art Basel and not talking about our actual one year.
That's actually very on, but we,
we started
the show saying we are the worst promoters and nfts of ourselves which we are and we are now
you know an hour and a half into the show and have not mentioned like puncher's like hey can i chime
in on the one year stuff which is going to be awesome you know puncher's been here since show
number one uh he's one of the people who's patient zero of this uh this thing we call coffee with
captain and yet here we are an hour and 32 minutes in and we've been talking our basel because the nature of
the show tends to be let it flow where the conversation goes and really this show is about
the people who come up and talk and listen and and comment in in the in the you know purple box below
and for us like you know what better way to do this when you know 250 people in the room we're
sitting here still going over this.
Let's go to Jack.
Jack was next.
Jack, Jerry, Goody, and then Puncher, we'll let you kick off the one-year stuff.
Hey, Steve, GM, GM captain.
Yeah, it was a little conversation again.
I'm so jealous of you guys.
I'm so, so jealous.
Like, Miami just seemed like an absolute blast.
I want to shout out my partner as well because, yeah,
I went to NFT NYC.
I've been to a few events now.
And you're right, Steve.
You know, these events aren't cheap, especially over the pond.
Like when you're doing those sort of commutes.
Yeah, it's not cheap.
And as a special thank you, I missed Miami actually this year
because I'm taking my partner next week.
It's actually this Saturday now.
I haven't told her anything about this yet,
but we're actually going to the US for two weeks,
all expensive paid.
Thank you to the bull run, which paid for a lot of this.
Taking profits, guys, it's important.
But yeah, she is not aware, so I'm letting her know on Friday.
We're flying Saturday, and that should be an interesting conversation
we're going to have.
I guess the one thing I'm going to touch on out of all the conversations that's been had is I think Goody brought it up first.
And it's a great point. It's should these events be exclusive to the holders?
Appreciate with Miami, that wasn't always the case. There was plus ones. There was a few other things going on.
But for me, I think we're first first off we're really far away from it
this isn't going to be something that happens this year maybe not even next year but i think
it needs to be token slash coin driven going forward and when i say coin i mean to the native
event so if it's a coin for bayc if it's dust or if you know even if it's the points for for
youths and d gods it makes so much more sense
to me that you would do it through charging for these events in a coin especially if that coin
is being yielded by the nft in a way that actually the people who hold the original nft don't pay for
the event because the yield cost the yield you get covers any events that year that the projects are
hosting but it also gives that plus one a little bit more of a,
okay, I'm going to buy it with my extra yield from the coin
if you're going to bring them yourselves.
And then for the excess, it gives you that extra ability to say,
right, these are people who are tied into the space enough
to know how to convert into that coin.
It does well for the original holders because they're yielding this coin.
So, you know, that value is going up and
then yeah it just gives you that extra dynamic of being able to bring in these people but also
without like the original holders of the nft getting a little frustrated that oh why is it
not exclusive to the holders because you're always going to get that battle 50 50 so so that was my
point that was really it for for today and it's just to say that, yeah, I think coins are the future.
I think it's a good point.
Obviously, the tech has to improve for usage for a lot of people.
But I think it also, at least within our community,
you can start getting people used to it.
Maybe one modification I would make that would work in the current circumstance,
maybe you can pay in the native coin.
By the way, I love your accent, the way you say kyoin.
I can't say it.
I can't duplicate it.
It's awesome.
But like, and I mean that that the most common way possible i freaking love accents
and wish i had one because i just think they're great um but uh i think the native uh the native
coin is a good call i think maybe there's a discount if you pay an ape coin or you can pay
in fiat for more money as an example because that way the barrier to entry isn't there for people
who can't do it but then the people who are paying in fiat see it so it works that way might be one
interesting maybe it's like all holders get in they have priority next is buying an ape coin
next is buying a fiat i think there's some ways you can play around with that but i like that
thought as always jack with a big brain thought in the morning um let's run to jerry uh goody and
then we'll let punter kick off the one year j. Jerry, GM, sir, thanks for your patience.
GM, how's it going?
So congratulations on your one-year.
I think that's awesome.
Is it okay if I kind of just – I'm just going to kind of change the subject just a tiny bit for safety just today, just for a minute,
if that's all right with you guys?
Yeah, I mean, go for it.
Yeah, so A apecoin staking starts
today and i just wanted to make sure everybody's staying safe so that's kind of what i just want
to i'll be really really brief um i just want everybody to understand that you don't have to uh
you don't have to stake immediately you don't have to deposit we We have a full seven days. We have until December 12th to deposit and the rewards do not begin until December 11th or right before they start staking rewards.
And you will start at the exact same place as everybody else.
So there's no need to rush and just take your time.
If anybody is interested, I will be doing some classes.
I've also made a couple videos helping people just stake safely and be safe.
Because I think that in our space, the most important thing,
we all know how it feels when we see somebody take a loss
and it just hurts.
So I'm trying to prevent that as much as I can
by jumping around and just telling everybody
to be safe and take your time.
And I'm wide open.
I'm still in Miami.
We fly out here in a little bit,
but I am wide open.
If anybody has any questions,
you need to DM me or anything.
So that was pretty much it.
But huge congratulations to you guys.
And yeah, a year is amazing.
I will challenge you, Steve, on the fact that you said that you guys are the worst at marketing yourselves.
And I bet most people have no idea that I'm actually part of another community, started another community,
and most people have no idea what it's even called.
So it's and it's super tight.
It's we're like the tightest, coolest freaking group ever.
It's awesome.
No, I would say like, yeah, I would say on the on the ApeCoin staking thing, great points.
And I'd say for anybody out there, just do your research.
Make sure that you're like, you know, if you have questions,
ask just like anything else, FOMO is never worth losing your assets, losing your money,
losing a thing in your wallet. So, um, good security point by Jerry this morning. Uh,
you know, he's got some stuff out there, you know, give him a follow, uh, be careful with
staking, do your research before staking, even if you're doing it safely, all that good stuff.
Just make sure that you are, uh, you you're following those protocols because the last thing people want is people FOMOing in
and those horror stories about people losing the assets in their wallet.
Let's run down to Goody, and then we'll kick off with Punter
and we'll do a short 20 minutes of reflections.
Goody, GM.
GM, again, honestly, I'm going to front-run Punter
and just jump straight into the one year.
I wanted to say I'm so stoked.
Wouldn't it be a proper one-year reflection if Goody didn't front run punter?
This is actually very fitting.
Appreciate you, Goody.
Of course.
I had to.
As soon as I heard the order that he was going to go Goody than punter to kick off the one year,
I was like, nah, I'm just going to screw whatever I had i had to say i'm just gonna go straight into the one year shit because
like that's so much more fun to front run punter uh uncle punter i should say um no i look i just
wanted to say like you guys are most if not all of the reason most of the reason that i'm here today
uh a couple months ago it was like actually, I remember the exact day.
It was July 4th.
I jumped onto your stage for the first time.
Cap, you were nowhere to be found.
Steve was running the ship.
And he went till like 2 in the afternoon.
He was literally on a ship.
He was literally on a ship.
And Steve went till 2 in the afternoon.
And I was like, oh oh this show goes all day every
day that's great and then no it was just a morning show but still it became my morning ritual and i
you know i'm you know me i'm on the west coast so i get up at 5 a.m every day to be on this
but legitimately not only have i found so many friends I've found literal family on this show in calling Steve my Web3 mother
and punter my Web3 uncle.
And, you know, I'm fucking stoked that you guys are still here
and you guys just keep getting bigger and better and bringing more value.
And, yeah, I'm just going to end with that.
You weren't even goody then.
You were not even goody then my uh my young nephew uh
so steve should i just hop right in and follow that up or yeah i was i was actually i was actually
hoping i was like i was like i think we've all gotten to know like our it's funny how we get to
know like people like over spaces i'm like i just i'm like i'm gonna let this breathe because i
think punter's gonna come right in so punter jump breathe because I think punter is going to come right in. So punter, jump right in. No, of course I'm going to come right in.
You know, and Goody, I love you, man.
And everybody on this stage, I feel like such a tight attachment to.
I don't want to get all mushy, right?
So first of all, happy anniversary.
You know, I've been around when Cap had like three or four of us in a room,
like talking NFL and giving away like goats, a UT access utility tokens.
And like four became eight became 30 became like hundreds.
Hunter's actually only friends with me because he won a goats,
a UT off of me last December.
I think that's where I won punters heart was a,
was a giveaway.
That's pretty much it.
Right.
You know,
it's like,
you know,
you throw a dog a bone and he comes back.
Right.
So no,
but,
but in all sincerity,
for everybody in the room, like coming from where I came from, as a former Bitcoin maximalist,
being in rooms with Bitcoin maxis and wondering, like, what about art? Like, what about collectibles?
What about, like, how are we handling, like, what are the solutions to these issues? And the Bitcoin
people only wanting to solve, like, you to solve the Federal Reserve balance sheet
and becoming digital gold or whatever
to coming into this room.
And I spend more time with you all
than I do with friends of mine in real life.
And we come together, we've met in real life
and I appreciate this platform.
I appreciate you guys and happy one year.
I can't wait for the next one.
Thanks, Hunter. I appreciate you guys and happy one year. It's, I can't wait for the next one. Thanks,
Connor.
Definitely appreciate that.
And appreciate both you and goodies,
kind words.
It's definitely been like,
again,
like you're one of those people who's been around since there was,
again,
we always say like our,
the first coffee with captain had 12 attendees,
not 12 concurrently,
like 12 in and out.
And in a year to go from 12 to,
you know,
we look at like the Friday, I haven't seen the number today, but the Friday number, and it's like a thousand people and in a year to go from 12 to you know we look at like the friday i haven't
seen the number today but the friday number and it's like a thousand people came in a thousand
more than a thousand that is so many people and like i can't wrap my head around it sometimes
like it's still like not sinking in i think for me this trip and i'll hand it to you cap to do
your early reflections because you are the goat the creator of this the og but i think you know
you probably had a similar reaction.
This trip to Miami was the first time I think I started to conceptualize.
Yes, we had 100, 150 people show up in NFT NYC.
That was awesome.
And we had this thought like, oh my God,
like 100 plus people showed up to a live in-person event in New York
at eight in the morning where they have no financial incentive tied to it.
Like, that's crazy, right?
We were like, that's nuts.
But like, and that was like sort of my first aha moment in June this one the amount of people that literally I was getting like I gotta post the video there's a guy I fun
fact about Steve I fucking love magic I don't want to know how it's done I just want to see magic
like I love magicians I think they're amazing Like, and so then this guy came up to our table at world of women gal and was like, I was like, he had a deck
of cards. I'm like, my eyes lit up and I'm like, are you a magician? And he's like, yeah. And he
immediately locked in. He's like, this guy's the easiest magic mark. Cause he's going to get super
excited about whatever I do. Like literally I'm like, he's like, where's the card? And I'm like,
legitimately like a child. I'm like, well, it can't be at the top of the deck. And then he flips it over and I just go nuts. Um, but it's
like, I was doing that. I was going nuts. And, and near one of our resident lawyers who we've,
you know, evoke for, for, uh, for law advice walks up and she's like, I heard you. And like,
I felt like we had Jeremy, you know, say I, when I close my eyes, when I talk to you,
it's like, we're on spaces. So cap, I'll'll kick it to you but I think this is the first time I think we had that moment where we were meeting people
everywhere we went who we've talked to in the morning who comment in the morning and it was like
the most gratifying thing I said in my thread but it's the most gratifying thing so cap I'll kick it
to you if you have that you know what your thoughts were related to that or anything on the one year
obviously yeah I mean it's it's really same thoughts on on the reflections i feel very similar
i probably can't say it any better uh i i don't want to go all the way back to to art basil i
just there was there was still a lot of other amazing connections and and interactions that
didn't even get to touch on this morning uh recognize individuals. You know, duck and ate water earlier
and it was awesome to connect with Gene
and hearing you talk about this show
and hearing Punter and like Steve and I are,
we are truly grateful.
We're loving every minute of it.
It doesn't feel like work.
The reality is we just show up every day.
Like, and it was a conversation I had
with Gene and Nana,
for those of you that um haven't
found the uh other space or other side fm with uh with nana and baron von hustle they host that
weekly show just the conversation there and what they're doing with that show and in and it was
it was nana's words just we just want to show up every day and or every week and provide value just
be consistent and and if if i could give us credit for anything over this last
year it's really like that's all we've done is is we've just kept showing up and a lot of the
a lot of the great value that's come out of this show is from individuals that that have jumped up
on whether it's on stage today or or we've been so fortunate to host so many you know great founders
and leaders in the space and looking forward to
many more of those that were set up at Art Basel this week. And one of the other, I think, biggest,
you mentioned like an aha moment of reflection is how many amazing people tune in that don't
jump up on stage that I had no idea listened to the show until meeting them this week. And I am truly humbled by the quality of individuals that listen in.
And we're just, I'm grateful for all of you.
And we may have to continue on both, uh, both topics tomorrow because it's just, I feel
like there's, there's probably a couple dozen other individuals that I could recognize from
interactions this past week.
Yeah.
I think like two things you hit on there
were on my notes as well,
because I also had some notes coming into the show,
which was show up to work is something we do, right?
Obviously when you're on a boat and literally can't,
it's different.
Or when there are circumstances in life,
I was on a plane the other day,
but me or Cap have been here every day
for over a year, every weekday.
Whether it was at you know, at Disney
and I was walking back and forth to the Magic Kingdom,
you know, that quarter mile walk,
walking four and a half miles
or whatever it was during the morning
and, you know, talking on, you know, that,
trying to get away from music, have that.
Like whether it's, we're out until 3 a.m.,
whether we're in a hotel and keep fishing.
I find out he's in the room next to me
because he's like, it's eight in the morning.
I was out late last night and I hear Steve going live on coffee with Captain. It's like, oh, he's in the room next to me because he's like it's eight in the morning i was out late last night and i hear steve going live on coffee with captain it's like oh
keep fishing in the room next door so like regardless of what it is like those moments
like show up to work is number one uh thing that i think is like you know worked and then you know
you talked about like amazing people i think like know, just a couple of reflections I put out is one it's fun. Like, and the biggest thing that I reflect back and we had this conversation cap is
like, we can't have this stop being fun. This can't be work. This is what I do to get away
from work. Right. This is like my, I enjoy this every day, genuinely enjoying the conversations,
the topics, the people, everything about this space. Um,, to me, like, that's like a huge factor
of it. I mean, the other thing about it is the fact that I'm able to do it with my friend who
I have such aligned values with, like even coming into this, it's like Cap and I had known each
other for about a year when this started. It's like, I knew that we had aligned values. Example,
Chris and I tell each other, we appreciate each other all the time. It's not a thing that I feel
is normalized enough,
especially with males, to be 100% frank,
that I can say, like, Cap, I love you and I appreciate you
and everything that we're building together is so fun
and I'm so glad to be on this journey with you.
I can say that out loud.
Cap and I must have said it to each other 25 times,
not in a weird way, this whole weekend, right?
It's like, he'm like, he said it
when he was dropping me off at the airport,
said it when we were riding around.
And I think that that's something that
we have genuine compersion for each other
and we do well.
The moments, I didn't even realize it
till after when I was talking to Mrs. NFT Bark.
But like, you know, when the cock punch list came out,
Tim Ferriss's project, and I was on the wait list,
and then Cap shows me his phone and
says on the allow list my immediate first reaction was i just like gave him a high five i'm like holy
shit yes let's go it wasn't like oh why'd you get it and i didn't or whatever and i think cap feels
the same way about me i feel that way about him and it's like you know like little fomo when he's
texting me a picture of him and frank and i'm like shit uh but like at the same time it wasn't like it wasn't like I wasn't there. It was the FOMO. And that's one other thing I want to
say. So like reflections are like, show up to work, have fun, genuinely appreciate people.
And don't be afraid to tell them you appreciate them because you, they might never know it. And
then you get into this argument or something happens and you're like, Oh wait, we have this
shared common thing. Um, but I think the trust is also is also there like so when he sent me that picture
with frank my first thought was i turned to i turned to mrs nft bark and i'm like yes like cap's
gonna like represent the brand and we're gonna represent each other and like like we're both
always like cap knows that if we separate in a crowd like and we're having those conversations
him and i are both like okay if we're talking about coffee with captain we're gonna be talking
about the right things we're gonna be doing it the right way and i are both like, okay, if we're talking about coffee with captain, we're going to be talking about the right things. We're going to be doing it the right way.
And I think that like, you know, the fact that we have genuine excitement when it's like,
I'm having a conversation with someone on any team, you name it. And I'm like, oh shit,
we might get them on the show. Like there's that sort of trust that I think we have for each other.
It's not like, it's not like I'm talking to someone and Cap's like, shit, let me go over.
talking to someone caps like shit let me go over steve's talking to someone important i gotta
Steve's talking to someone important. I got to interrupt. Like when I saw Garga,
interrupt like when i saw garga the first thing i did when i saw garga was not run up and say hi
was not go bother car garga the very first thing i did was i texted cap and i was like
cap urgency the founders are here garga is over here by swicky's paying area get over here now
like before i went and said hi to him before i took a picture before i did anything else it wasn't
like i get mine and then i send him or whatever and like and introduce myself it was cap like get over here and that was
that was my first thought reaction so I just think that relationship and that dynamic to me is
probably why this works cap so I'll let you react to that I mean I don't know how to come follow
that um I would just say that this relationship also allows me to commit Steve to hosting special primetime coffee with captains without even checking in.
I just,
I know he's got my back and he'll be up for the,
up for the ride.
So not to bury that lead,
but,
he mentioned the,
you know,
connecting with Frank there on,
on a Saturday night.
And,
he's like,
don't,
do you guys ever do a,
a night show?
This is Frank's West coaster.
This is pretty early out there.
I was like, Frank, for you, we will do a special primetime coffee with Captain.
So I'm not sure if we can rock the coladas at that hour,
but maybe like an afternoon tea.
I can't drink decaf.
We'll just have to go with the hardcore coffee,
and maybe we'll stay up late that night.
But really looking forward to that one.
I'm guessing, Cap cap you didn't uh tell frank that you're usually tucked in bed after milk and cookies by 8 p.m eastern uh so we'll keep you up for that one the um yeah no it's uh
i'm excited about that that was a uh a great one the only thing i want to say real quick and then
we'll go to hands is like i think like a lot of people who do content in this space, see everything as binary. And this
is a conversation cap and I had, and don't think about consumer behavior. And one of the things
that I think helps us sort of have peace of mind, the other thing that we're aligned on,
because we're aligned on so many values from their stoicism to how we approach life to,
you know, us being old and needing naps, you name it, we align on a lot of things.
But like, one thing that was interesting in the conversation
is I think a lot of people say,
oh, someone else does a show,
like Nick and Pio do a show at nine.
I don't, not only do we not like get upset or not like that,
like Nick and Pio, really like the content,
they're entertaining, they're funny, they're knowledgeable.
We talk about them sometimes and the great work they do.
But like, I don't see it as competition.
I think people approach content like
channels, right? Like you may listen to us to start your day at 8am and you may switch over
to Nick and Pio at nine and Ryan Carson at 1030 or Farrokh at 1030. And that's okay. Right? Like
that's totally fine. That's not my loss because you want to do it. And maybe some days we have
a really good conversation and you want to stick around here. Maybe some days you go over there
and they have a better conversation. You stick around here. Maybe some days you go over there and they have a better conversation.
You stick around there.
Maybe some days you go over there and say, oh, conversation's not as kicking this morning.
I'm going back to coffee with Captain.
That's fine with me.
It's not about the numbers.
And, you know, I've had a few people at Art Basel, like, God bless them.
They're like, hey, some thoughts on how you guys can juice your numbers up.
Like, I don't want to juice our numbers up.
I want the people who want to be here to be here.
I want to have fun with it.
And I'm okay if people go and consume other content because there's so many great content
creators in the space and you have so many choices and so many, and that's why it means so much to us
that you start your day with us. The, you know, 217 people who are still here. I appreciate every
single one of you. And I mean that from the bottom of my heart, but if you decide that you want to
listen to something else and like kind of mix and match, that's okay.
Like we're not always, it's just like a television show, you know, or a live event.
Like you may just want to change the channel.
That's cool.
Or, you know, almost like radio, right?
You might be like, today I'm in the mood for this song.
Today I'm in the mood for this genre.
That's great.
So like never saw it as competition.
And I think a lot of people could benefit from like a mindset that way, because for
me, it's very freeing to say, I don't have to look like we look at the numbers because it is an
important metric for us, especially as we get sponsors, but we don't look at the numbers and
say, Oh my God, we're down this morning. We suck or all is bad. In fact, we had a funny conversation.
Cap and I had this conversation where we did more numbers concurrently. So we did like 300 concurrent
listeners, but that day we only had like 750 in and
out or something or 650 in and out. So it wasn't like one of our bigger, like thousand plus people
shows. And I actually saw that and was like, Oh my God, that means people are staying longer.
That means that we're having more consistent people who are interested in what we're talking
about. That's a community that's exciting. And so like, to me, like that is like another reflection
personally I have, as I look back is like, one of the reasons this has become so fun for me to do is like,
I don't look at it as like this stressful job where like, I have to watch the numbers and
monitor what's going on. It's Hey, like sometimes people come, sometimes they don't. If we have 50
people, like, you know, we had one morning where we had a great show and I looked and we did like
500, which we hadn't done, you know, numbers at 500 in a while.
But it was a great show and it was like, God, I had this, I looked at it, I had this really great conversation.
Not like, oh my God, like we did a lower number and we had a great show.
It's just, to me, it's like, it's about the community and the people who stick around and not looking at, you know, when, you know, I mean, perfect example.
Like, we'll talk more about it.
I'm sure tomorrow as we continue the art puzzle recap but like we got to hang out for the day
with girl in the verse she's a content creator she works with rug radio i've been unmuted i was
going here so steve and i are pretty well aligned this is my no go ahead steve this is my like
this is what i this is like the perfect real life it's not it's i don't like i don't know
if analogy is the right word but it is
it just summarizes everything steve was describing go ahead yeah i mean also without
in addition to girl in the verse want to and i'm sure you'll probably go here as well but right and
i'm not sure if it if the individuals dock so i'm not going to name any names but um
guy in the partnership guy in the verse yeah we'll just any names, but Guy in the Verse.
The partnership.
Guy in the Verse. Yeah, we'll go with Guy in the Verse.
The working together, the partnership.
It was very cool to see.
This is a great example
of someone who's a fellow
content creator
not affiliated with DGEN
who not only would you spend time with,
but talking strategy and how can
we help? It's just, it's this, it was the ethos of Web3 and go, go ahead and take it from there,
Steve. Yeah, I'm going to try to help her figure out how to get some sponsorships because she's,
and again, this is no benefit. She works for Rug Radio or works with Rug Radio. She's in a
partnership there, not with DGEN. I don't care. It was the great, like watching her work i'm like how can i help you um and just you know like watching her
hustle from day to day even though she's a competitor it didn't matter sort of a competitor
quote to speak which she's not she's not a competitor we're all content creators but
it doesn't matter that there's not an affiliation there my genuine appreciation she came to the live
call for you captain of not only the type of person that molina is and she i know her name
is doxxed out there.
It was written on everything, but to your point,
guy in the verse who was like running around hustling,
they hustled their way into doors that there were, there were,
there were non-entry doors that they hustled their way into.
And not only that,
but got VIP access to film content through their hustle and their grinding.
Right.
When we did the interview with them, she has her equipment set up.
Guy in the verse is getting the right angle.
He's helping us, you know, stand the right way.
She's like, let's ask this question.
Stop the camera.
Cool. Let's ask the next question.
This is how I like to cut my videos.
She spends hours making them.
It was like, I left so impressed.
And I was like, I need to figure out,
like, how can I help you get sponsorships?
How can I help you work?
And it has nothing to do with anything
that's gaining for us.
It's like, we're trading strategy. she's giving us strategy that she's working on
and things is working for her and it's like those moments and the ability to uh have those
connections like it doesn't matter that like we run a show she does video content we're DJ and
she's wrong I didn't it didn't matter and I think that's something that I'd love to continue to see
in the space because and she did the same for. She gave us all these flowers about the morning show.
She said, she loves it.
She starts her day working out to it.
It's like those things in those moments, like it's not about competitors.
It's about helping good people succeed.
I will be, we'll talk about it.
I'm sure again, tomorrow I will be shocked if she is not wildly successful in the next
five years.
I mean, her, like again, her work ethic. And it was like,
we went to Doodle Putt. So Cap and I go to Doodle Putt to experience it. We're on Doodle Putt.
Who walks by us? Oh, hey, good to see you again, guys. Where do we see her? Early in coffee with
Captain, getting the interviews in there. Later on, we're at Other Block. What's she doing? She's
in her. It's like every single party she gets her way into. She asks the questions. She's there to
work. It was just such a great uh great thing to witness
so it's a slight digression but like related to the point where it was like that idea that like
it's it's a small space everyone's not competition we can all win together and i don't look at it as
if someone else started an 8 a.m space good for them there's more options for people and people
who want to hang out here can and if they don't that's cool too um let's run down to uh outer i
saw your hand go
up then we'll come up to juan outer gm get back in here oh i feel like i'm cutting the line but
okay um i wanted to respond to something you said um just like you know going out and people
kind of recognizing you guys i think that you're something that you do, I think without even maybe necessarily having that as a purpose is you connect others as well. One of the, to this day, wildest moments
that's ever happened to me was directly the result of being a speaker and a guest on this show.
I was at NFT NYC after hanging out with you guys and trying to get into the Gollum party. And I
was standing on a street corner with Divide waiting for an Uber.
And I hopped into like whatever random spaces and I was talking.
And then from behind me, I heard someone say Outer Lumen.
And I was like, I was not wearing any shirt that says I'm Outer Lumen.
Like all I did was just like, I guess, laugh in the Twitter spaces.
I don't know.
But it was Keith, you know, digital ornithologist.
And he's like hey I heard
you on coffee with Captain all the time I listen in the morning and I recognize your voice and we
chatted for a bit and then like you know I've chatted since then and it's like you you're
you're connecting people without even I think realizing that you're doing it because that is
wild that that even happened to me and uh I will like never forget it but also made me sorry my kid's coughing in the background he's a bit sick um but yeah it's just one of these things
where it was wild to have that moment and i imagine i'm not the only one that has had that
through the fact that this is kind of like a giant network of of folks that get together and share
common interests and sometimes maybe not but have like really healthy discourse around it
i appreciate that that's something that I think is like something we definitely
I would say try to make sure that we're I mean look I mean everybody has a voice and an opinion
that's important and if somebody has the is one kind enough to like listen to us rant in the
morning but to come up to talk or comment below I think it's important to make sure that like
their point isn't flown over. And even if their point has dissonance to what we're saying or
thinking, they've come up for a reason. And I want them to feel safe having that conversation,
knowing that we're not going to attack them. We're not going to tell them you're wrong. And
absolutely, we might respectfully push back, but yeah, I just, I think it's important to give
everybody a voice and you're somebody who like, you know, on the one year anniversary, like,
obviously I mentioned puncher has been here since day one. Like you're somebody who I appreciate so
much out or truly. Like, I mean, it's like, you've become such a friend. And, um, even though I've
accidentally muted you and actually accidentally booted you from a room once, which was a total,
like, cause I had a fat finger, like literally like one of the people I respect more than anybody in this world.
And I booted her from a room by accident by fat fingering the spaces.
You know, she's somebody who is, I've learned a ton from and helped me think differently.
And somebody I know can go on tangents about space with me, or we can talk about NFTs and
both work.
So, you know, appreciate the hell out of you, Outer.
And obviously divide
as well is a great one i love when we get the divide in the background just being like oh hold
up like and he gives us like the alpha on nodes or pixel vault or something like that like we always
get some good knowledge from him so appreciate both of you let's go ahead or go ahead cap sorry
i just mentioned connecting people and i gotta brag on you for a minute because it was one of
my favorite memories of Art Basel.
I dropped it up above.
I sent a tweet out over the weekend.
I just want to call attention to it again because it is practicing what we preach.
And I can brag on Steve and I'll tell you, he's a better person than I on many areas and this being one of them.
We talked on here leading into Art Basel. Hey, if you're at one of these events and you see someone that looks like they're by themselves, go reach out, say hello, introduce them to other people. And while I might have done that from time
to time, I will admit I wasn't actively seeking out individuals who were by themselves. And it's
one of those memories that'll be etched in my brain where we were at the proof event and having
a great conversation with Natalie
and Daloo.
And Steve excused himself.
He'll be right back.
And he went over to the bar.
There was a gentleman who was there.
We'd come to find out later his name is Ian, who was just staying by the bar by himself.
He wasn't like, he didn't like he looked lonely.
You could just tell he was by himself.
And Steve went over and introduced himself, brought Ian over to our conversation.
Come to find out, Ian had, I think within weeks,
had just picked up his first moon bird, was brand new to the community, didn't know anyone there,
and was extremely great for the outreach and the introduction. And I got to pause. I think it's,
it may seem like, oh, I'm trying to pump Steve's bags, but he truly is just that good of a human
being. And when we're talking about this stuff, he, he, he practiced what he, what he preaches. He absolutely is that type of individual that is
about connecting others and in giving more than he takes out of every conversation I've, I've ever
witnessed him engage in. I appreciate that cap. And that's, you know, that is like,
like, I'm going to like, I'm actually getting emotional. Cause like, I appreciate those kinds
words means a lot coming from you, obviously as a friend and, and somebody who I
obviously care about quite a bit. And yeah, I mean, it's definitely something that I think is
important to do at these events that I've, I've always tried to do since day one. Cause I know
what it's like to show up at an event. I remember the feeling I had when I went to this masters of
marketing event in Orlando years ago and our CMO was speaking and I was like working the whole time and I didn't know anybody there except our CMO who was like flying in Orlando years ago. And our CMO was speaking and I was like
working the whole time. And I didn't know anybody there except our CMO who was like flying in the
next day. And I went to this party and I walked around by myself, kind of like head down on my
phone, pretending to be busy, like almost afraid to walk up to people. Like, cause I don't always,
you know, just depends on the mood. I'm usually, I'm a lot better now at this stage of my life of
walking up to a group. Um, but I wasn't super comfortable and I knew that feeling and I'm like, nobody should feel that feeling, especially in an event
like this. So I just always been a big advocate of like, if the person is doing like sort of the
lurk on their phone, looking down, they might just be escaping to get to the phone for a minute.
You know, a lot of people do that. And if that's the case, totally cool, but just, you know,
walk up, introduce worst thing is they tell you like, okay, you know,
I don't like you go away. Best case scenario though. Like maybe, maybe they're there with
someone, maybe not. Like even if it's a couple of people bringing into conversations, having those
conversations I think is important. And then suddenly you never know, like people become
friends or you never know who you'll meet. So I appreciate you saying that because that's
something that like, yeah, I know I didn't want to be rude. I think I even said in the conversation,
like, I don't want to be rude,
but I've seen this guy standing here now for five minutes by himself.
I'm going to go see if he's by himself and bring him over.
And sure enough, he was a new holder.
And hopefully that gave him the experience that he wanted because I don't know.
Like, I also think that there's just this butterfly effect of kindness.
And maybe I'm naive, but, you know, I just know that.
100%.
If I hold a door for someone, if I help someone out, if I,
then maybe that person will be kind and remember that and do something for someone else. And
I don't know. It's like, I just feel like it can be this, it's that small, like be the everyday
leader you want to see in the world or be the everyday person who helps people that way. And
like, hopefully that then becomes passed on, you know? Let's run down to Jawan.
Let's go Jawan Stacky, back up the punter,
and then we'll go down to Jen, who was awesome to meet this weekend
and keep running through hands.
Jawan, GM, sir.
GM, GM, how are you guys doing?
Doing awesome. How are you?
Could only be better if we would have got a kick it with you this weekend in Miami.
I have goals of making it to some of these events.
Obviously, the season's done, so I'll have a bit more time to focus on Web 3.
But I just wanted to come up and say congratulations on one year.
I don't know if I'm a day one or not, but my claim to fame is being in Coffee with Captain since 15, 20 people on stage or in the Twitter
space, sorry. But I just want to say thank you guys for the knowledge and relationships and
networking that you provided me just by being in here. I've met a lot of great people in Web3,
some people that are becoming like really close friends of mine that I haven't even met in person, which is, which is crazy. Talk to these people every day. So I just wanted to say thank you for all that.
And I look forward to seeing what the next year has in store for you guys. And if you ever need
anything, you know, I'm always here. So once again, thanks. Yeah, right back at you, Juwan.
We, we love you, buddy. And we uh we appreciate you and you know everything
uh everything you do even if even if sometimes i am like why does this guy get to be so smart
and so good looking and so athletic so there is there is some of that like i say you want to have
compersion for people but i don't know you are just a absolute unit and that is something that
i respect and you're but like truthfully like all joking aside, I mean, I'm not joking. Like he is very tall, good looking and athletic
and also very smart. Like that part's not a joke, but like all joking aside, like as a friend,
I'm like proud to call you a friend because of the way you carry yourself and your work ethic,
your thoughtfulness around things like mental health. I've had conversations with you when
I've been going through tough mental health times. I've had DMS with you and you know,
I've said it to you before. I know I've mentioned this, but it means the world to me
that I can do that and have a comfortable, safe space when I'm like, right now, I'm worried about
this, this, this, and this. And you can give me a honest opinion, knowing that no matter what you
say is like, I respect it and it's there. Like it's been helpful to me because I think as I've
directionally made some career decisions, you're one of the people I've DM'd because I know that you take mental health so seriously
and I know it's something that you have a platform for. So you do so many things at
an elite level, Juwan, that it is mind-boggling to me sometimes that people like you exist in
the world that you can be so great at everything. So I appreciate you as you continue to keep
building and do the things you're doing. And you're another one that I'm like, hey, not only you're as close to a day oneer as they come.
You know, you were here when it was like 20, 25 people.
You bring value every day.
And so just want to say I appreciate you as well, friend.
Let's go Stacky.
Let's go Stacky.
I think Stacky then Jen, I think was the order I had.
If I forgot, my ADHD has kicked in. Uh, I think stacky then Jen, I think was the order I had. If I, if I forgot my
ADHD has kicked in, but we'll get through stacky. Awesome. Meeting you on Friday morning. Thank you
for coming by. Got to give you a big hug. Super stoked to finally meet the one and only stacky
Robinson. Uh, my fashion Friday friend, I named her up to you when I met G money. I'm like, yo,
I do fashion Fridays with stacky Robinson, just so you know. So we've talked. So Stacky, GM, how's it going? I can confirm that was his introduction to G Money is, you know, he's he's name dropping
Stacky when he and James and his in his introduction to G Money.
I'm cracking up. So I'm still here. You guys are still in Miami. I have boxes of champagne
and boxes of beer and all this other stuff that
if you're still here and you want all this stuff
please come and get it because
I need to get rid of it because I leave
later today
I don't know if I'm so good about
having all these goodies may or may not be why Steve
name dropped you but it was
very great to meet you
well Steve
you can use my name in any room you want to.
So I'm still in the bed, you guys.
I'm trying to get up and leave.
I packed everything.
I don't know if I'm sobering up from alcohol or what.
So, yeah, I got to meet a lot of people.
And this time around, I just wanted to let you know I haven't been out
the house in four years like that you know I've this is me breaking my I guess IRL cherry with
web3 people so you know if I was socially awkward at first and I met you it's because I was I had
to get all the jitters out but you know uh Jen followed
me around the whole time yeah Jen you follow me not the other way around but um yeah I met a ton
of people my events went pretty well uh they were so packed and I appreciate everybody who supported
and if you didn't get into one of my events please DM me I am reimbursing some people. So yeah, I'm so sorry, but they went really dope.
Pretty packed. I can't wait to do this again with you guys. Maybe NFT NYC. You know, I actually
closed a deal with one of my partners. I don't know if you know Crowdbotics who was at the Web3
summits. And I'm speaking to some investors for Stockianas down here.
So I have not slept.
You know, this is my first day sleeping from 10 days of being here.
So, you know, I also just want to say congratulations on your one year.
And I am a big supporter and a fan so I'll be around just supporting you guys
and continuing to support your journey in Web3.
So that's all I want to say.
Happy birthday!
Thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
I know Steve said it earlier about Girl in the Verse.
I'm going to add you
and I think it's a perfect segue to Jen next
that I would be shocked if the three of
you aren't uh icons in this space and and uh you know on that mount rushmore of web 3 as we fast
forwarded a few years it's just it's it's very easy for me to see it's it feels like i use the
word inevitable a few times this weekend with talking in conversations with steve i don't use
that often i rarely speak in absolutes i do my best I rarely speak in absolutes. I do my best never to speak in
absolutes. But I do think there's a few of you, and I'll put the three of you on the spot. I do
think it's inevitable to keep showing up and know what you're doing. You're on your path to just
massive success. And I just wanted to let you know, Granaverse is a member of Stockianas,
and I remember just a year, almost like 80 months ago, talking to her about doing the videos that she do now.
And she kept asking me, should I do this?
And I'm like, hell yeah, these things are wonderful.
And I just kept sharing and retweeting all of her work because I do believe in everything she's doing.
And just like Jen with Let's Gather, when she told me about Let's Gather, her audience that were coming out. I definitely jumped in to support that right away.
I guess that's a good segue to Jen. What's up, Jen?
Oh my gosh,
Jen. I came to find
out, Jen, we give Bunchu,
we'll get you up here in a sec, Bunchu. We say Bunchu's
the influencer's influencer.
Jen may have Bunchu. She
knows everyone and anyone in this
space. She's like the behind-the-scenes
master that's orchestrating so much of what's going on.
And it was great to finally connect Jen.
Can I say one more like flowers for Jen real quick in that,
in that too,
is that one of the most impressive things about Jen is like,
you're having a conversation with her and she just,
to your point,
she knows everybody she's out there,
but it's not in like this name droppy way.
It's like,
she's literally having a conversation and she just happens to be so interested in building
all these different things with all these different people that you just have a conversation.
You just leave so impressed with how she has a grip on the space, how it's moving, what's going
on. Um, so sorry, Jen, I, I, I didn't mean to cut you off before you jumped in there,
but I want to make sure it's like, I appreciated the conversation we were able to have and getting
to talk to you multiple times this week was, was
awesome. I'm glad we got to do that. So Jen, go ahead and get in here. Oh my gosh. Thank you so
much. I'm going to apologize for my voice. Cause you can hear that I'm a little scratchy because
I definitely spent a lot of time talking to everybody. And I, um, I got home last night
to Austin, super, super late, like one in the morning. It's 9.15 my time and I saw your space and I'm like, I have to come in and first congratulate
you on the one year because we were talking about that this whole week and I wasn't aware
that the show was a year old because I kind of came in like maybe six months ago and saw
you guys.
And so it was just so fun to meet you guys in person and everyone on stage.
And I just, I love the fact that you're so community agnostic I feel like that's how I how I um communicate in the space
like I love to just meet so many different people from so many different pockets and
it was so fun to just really hug everybody and have these great conversations um and I went to
stacky's event got to meet her in real life she was killing it. She was one of our features for Gather.
Girl in the Verse, she stayed with us a couple of days.
She was my roommate for a little bit.
She is killing it.
I want to give her her flowers as well.
And just it's so fun to see these people coming up and we're investing in these new talents and new voices and just giving them an opportunity to shine and just be part of the conversation community.
And I just I'm so thankful.
I mean, I ran into you guys quite a bit and it was fun.
I feel like I went to at least, oh my gosh, like 10 events a day was my average.
I tried to stay as long as I could just to kind of help with, you know, our partners
and develop new relationships.
But yeah, with this app I'm doing, like, it's so fun to just see what everyone is doing
in the space for events because everyone has,
excuse me, my voice is so bad.
Everyone has such a different culture
with what they want to bring to their holders,
to their community.
And I love that you guys welcome everybody
and you're not gating anyone.
You're like, anyone is welcome.
You're free to move around to different communities, different and at the end of the day we're all family
and it's i love that that's who i want to be around in the community so i'd have to give your
flowers and i'm gonna i'm gonna kind of hang on stage contribute to the conversation but yeah i'm
very pleased with you guys with with what you're doing and then i'm able to be part of your family
with um coffee and captain so thank you. Right back at you.
Jen, it was great to connect.
I'm going to steal community agnostic.
I love it.
And in fact, I'm surprised I haven't heard it or thought of it yet. My past life or current life, the word carrier agnostic, meaning we wanted to provide an environment for whether it's to where Verizon, T t-mobile uh at&t none of them would feel
uh as if it would be we were a competitive threat by servicing their customers and and carrying that
over into this space even more so like i don't if it whether we're in the same community or
different communities like we're all in the same community i think that's circling back to this
morning's that that freshman letter from from ryan from polygon it's like we're all in this
together this space is so small and we're going to accomplish a lot more a lot faster if we
eliminate any walls any barriers and just realize that we're we are colleagues not competitors and
i this was like i have chills thinking about because this was like it just this is what
i hope we're doing a good job summarizing this this morning, Steve, because I came out of Art Basel more confident on this collective space, more bullish on this space than I've ever been.
And it's, it's due to the people, right?
It's, it's like, there's so many high level quality people that are like-minded that they're not looking inward.
It's like, what, how can i help others how can it's just like it's i know there's great people in this world but where it becomes like it feels like the majority
of the people in the space not the minority it's it's uh it's something really special and um
yeah i appreciate all of you it's been so great to connect and uh looking forward to um continuing
to build on these relationships jen i'm gonna put you back on the spot because you're speaking of building and connecting.
Stacky gave some love to Audis.
Do you want to, will you just at least give this the elevator pitch?
We're going to have to have you on for another full show to talk about Let's Gather.
That's what I was going to say.
We should definitely have it on when we have a key audience.
Absolutely.
What's the elevator pitch?
What is Let's Gather?
What are you building?
And it was a great tool this week, and I think it'll be even more so in future conferences.
when you offer this type of community, it's a, it's a feeling and it's a vibe. And so I want to
kind of bank off of that because when you meet somebody in person, I mean, some of the times I
don't ever fully remember what they say. And I don't remember like some of the things they do
because I meet so many people, but I always, always remember how they make me feel. And if
somebody like gives me a, like a very family, like vibe, like I'm going to, I'm going to work
with them no matter what in the
future and sometimes it's hard because some people kind of give you the ick and some people
you know it's like a vibe and a feeling and it's like throughout the day if I forget what they say
I will always remember that they had they were positive they were welcoming um and they're like
family and that's what I have with you guys so I wanted to first say that too um I see Sean in the
audience giving me hearts too from alien friends. Like that guy's a gem too.
And it just goes to show like you can be community agnostics.
You can definitely steal that phrase.
I love that because I don't like to be segregated to one community too.
So it's like I want to do all the things and see all the people.
And if they make me feel good when I'm around them, like I will mess with you forever.
Like I will work with you.
The very TLDR because my voice is is I should rest my voice a bit just for everyone listening to
the audience I'm the founder of gather um and and Audie's Lodge so essentially as an artist
my PFP project is my way to fund gather my tech platform because uh dev work is very expensive
as you know so as an artist I made the PFP project that's in my bio,
Audie's Lodge, to help with that
and to give access to the community with Event Alpha.
So actually today I'll be setting up my Discord bot
to have a token-gated experience
because owning Gather, I was very fortunate to be able to meander
between all these events that I'm not a holder at
and that I help sponsor and feature with my platform. So I was gifted many, many plus ones,
VIP access, registration, and I physically can't be everywhere at one time. So with this discord
I'm going to do that's token gated with my project Audis Lodge, I will be raffling off a lot of my
plus ones and registration, depending on the cert, because there's some events we're able to do that. Some, obviously, there's a little more top tier. We're not able to do that unless we solidify these partnerships.
my own little community with that based on the art and to just really give back to you guys to
have a place to find event alpha first i would love to provide that information because i can't
be everywhere at once and yeah i would just love to raffle that off and give everyone and new
committee members an opportunity to experience like the doodles party like that was super fun
for me to go to i'm not a holders of doodle of doodles but many of my friends are and you better
believe i will be a community member.
I have my eye and a couple of traits, but things like that.
I would love to raffle plus ones to go there because I want people to experience what I experienced as a non-holder because it converted me to be like, oh, I really want to be involved.
So, again, long story short, we can maybe do a different space like a couple of weeks down the road when I'm kind of caught up on sleep and partnerships.
But yeah, if you purchase an Audi, we are minting currently right now.
It will give you first access in this Discord to see for Q1.
There's a lot of big events coming up.
I live in Austin.
South by Southwest is going to be crazy.
I want to take care of you guys.
I want to make sure you're at the right parties to help you network, to help you meet people.
And yeah, our bezel was the
first use case to just kind of get feedback on what we're building and yeah that's just kind of
my elevator pitch sorry i kind of went over but that's it no i appreciate you sharing i can't wait
to we'll definitely have you back uh uh we're gonna have to do i think come you mentioned like
springtime q1 there there is like it is a conference gauntlet, and we're going to do maybe a couple of conference season shows
as things start getting into full swing conference season.
Girl on the Verse, thanks for coming up.
I also see KidJet, the legend, joined us.
Shout out.
That's one of the shout outs I didn't give enough credit for
was Peter and Swicky and KidJet.
I know Steve started off the show with the other block,
and that was unquestionably my favorite event of the week, primarily because it was community agnostic.
And although there were, you know, apes, ape holders had had the ability to claim a ticket.
I don't know.
It seemed like every single holder that was there, that Steve and I were probably the only ones who didn't bring a plus one
that wasn't in the community it was it felt like i met so many people both inside and outside of
that community and in the end of the further think that they didn't fund this with a you know there
wasn't a token drop the people there weren't financially incentivized to be there rather it
was the community coming together putting a lot of sweat equity and i know i i can only imagine how hard that that peter and zwicky and kidjet worked in in setting up this
event and getting everything ready and and all their sponsors and those we mentioned ape water
earlier but just a lot a lot of work and planning goes into that and i'm gonna guess that they
probably didn't see a profit i don't i know that wasn't the intent, but I'm guessing it was one
where they were probably hoping
and maybe lucky to break even.
And this is all about building community
and building long-term.
And not to put you on the spot,
but let's go KidJet
and then we'll go back to Girl in the Verse.
KidJet, GM, so great to meet you this weekend.
And again, thank you so much
for all that you did making the other block,
in my opinion, the best event of the week thank you guys thank you thank you so much
um meeting you guys was like kind of surreal right because like while i was in the room i i didn't
know who you were in person and or what you look like and i just closed my eyes and I listened to the voices. I think, oh, this is like Twitter Spaces.
That's Captain Steve.
And that's crazy.
Yeah, I mean, I did five events this week, you know,
starting with the VFriends Takeover, you know, Rally Road and Members Only.
And then we got Token Proof involved and Flexi NFTs.
And then, you know, roadmap and space does peter swicky rock soul and christy uh we just moved mountains we we
not not only did we we didn't have the budget that we wanted but we also didn't have the time
that we needed um just because everything was pushed so back um you know shout out to d money and dick the viper and area for
for finishing that wall on time um you know we were there till four five six in the morning
finishing the wall getting what sleep we can and then coming back to the wall um
posting profits like i mean this is kind of like this is like the the avengers everybody assembling
like i i can't do it myself, right?
So everyone had a hand in it, and, you know, we all answered the call.
And it was so cool meeting you, and, you know, thanks for giving me, you know, the time.
And it just goes to show that in real life events, community events is what people want.
They want to build.
They want to have the opportunity to meet other people and bring other people into space and
network and connect um and that was the magic you know you know um culture is part of what we do and
how we curate the spaces um it just so happens that i love hip-hop and hip-hop music and and
and breaking and graffiti and all that stuff.
The major point of it, too, was also to curate a wall that was going to be there for many years to come.
A wall in Wynwood can cost easily $10,000, $20,000 a month.
But the venue, when we submitted the proposal proposal deck they were happy to let us have
it so that was from the art side that was a no-brainer and uh i pinned something to the top
before we go down to girl in the verse if you haven't watched it um up top kid jet did not know
he had that in him uh they're doing break dancing and I I missed the initial
break dancing because I was having some conversations out of nowhere I'm in the dance
floor and I see Kid Jet sort of do the like putting your arms and legs back and forth in a
very rhythmic way which I am not capable of but he has rhythm and then out of nowhere homeboy just
gets on like his hands and spins in a circle and I I was like, I am glad I got my camera out.
Cause I didn't know what was going to happen there.
but I,
I was like,
I didn't know you had you.
And like my tweet didn't go out cause my reception was bad,
but I just like tweeted.
I was like,
meanwhile,
just casually break dancing in the middle of the other block out of
nowhere.
You know?
So you got one corner,
Swicky,
Sarah,
star girl,
unbelievably talented painting another corner,
the board API club founders just hanging out and chatting with the community.
The middle of the dance floor, spotty Wi-Fi performing,
friggin' people break dancing.
All around, there's free ape water.
Bored and hungry's there.
I mean, it was just so well done.
So congrats, KidJet, on everything you accomplished this week.
Get some much-needed rest, my friend.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, guys.
Absolutely. Let's run down because we evoked her. Sorry, Mint rest, my friend. For sure. For sure. Thank you guys. Absolutely.
Let's run down because we evoked her.
Sorry, Mintify, you will.
We will get to you in a second.
Although, actually, let's go Girl in the Verse, JBrush, and Mintify,
if you don't mind, Mintify, just because JBrush has been up here all day.
Man has big arms.
He rode the tank top bike to live coffee with Captain.
But let's go to Girl in the Verse first because we're talking about her as if she's not in the room
and now she is in the room.
Girl in the Verse, GM, how are you doing this morning?
GM, everyone, I kind of lost my voice too,
but I feel like, Steve, you're pushing through,
so I'm not allowed to not come on stage.
And honestly, I just am so thankful and grateful
that I really want everyone to understand this one thing.
When I left VCon last year, I came home and I sat down and I thought long and hard about what I wanted to do for this space.
I worked in television and I did news and radio for 10 plus years.
i've been doing content creation for over 10 years but i wanted to see how i like what i've learned
I've been doing content creation for over 10 years.
my skills how i can bring them in this community and create value for this community and i'm
talking web3 like nobody knows that we exist on twitter everyone okay it was it was so nice to
meet each and every one of you but what i'm what i'm trying to get at is when I was at VCon everyone kept telling me you have to come to New York and I chose not to because I knew that I
had to come home and go to the next event where I knew that people would say I know who she is
and that was my goal and I want each and every one of you to hear this from me because I'm so
overwhelmed with all the love and I can't wait to go through all this footage,
but you have to really trust you.
And I knew that I could not go to New York because it's not what I wasn't
there yet.
And it takes time and we're building all of this together.
And I'm so super grateful.
And I will say this one last thing.
Everyone kept asking me, how can we help you? I want everyone to go like and follow and support. And if you feel
like this piece of content can resonate with someone else, I want you to share it. Because
this is how we grow organically. We're not here talking about pumping numbers, right? Steve is
saying, I don't care if there's 500 people in this room if there's 100 and this is why i am here every day and i told steve this is my favorite
space it doesn't matter who else i'm working with right this is my favorite space because
we have built this together organically from day one to one year right like this is so
awesome i'm so happy to be here i did lose my voice and i'm really
hoping i can do a crypto update this week but i'm so grateful i just want to thank everyone
yes i'm putting in the work yes i'm hustling but it's also it's it's almost like it's nice
that everyone saw it in real life because i'm home at I do this at home all the time. And the only person who saw it was Guy in the Verse,
who, by the way, changed his handle now.
And I was like, well, I didn't see you, you know, like, propose.
Like, I'm waiting for something else.
Like, you want to change your name.
So that's like a whole other topic.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, girl, he changed his name.
I was like, wait, wait a second.
But, and we came out. I have to come off you
just because I'm laughing out loud. This is brilliant. This is amazing. Uh, yeah, he changed
his name. And, and, and again, you know, when I started girl in the verse, I didn't want it to be
about me. Cause it's not about me. It's about, you know, when I started, it was about every other
girl in this space or every other person in the space who was like, what's real?
What's not?
How do I know who to go check?
Who's real?
Who's not?
And so I am here doing this for you guys because I want you guys to be building whatever it is you need to build.
I will do the content.
You go and build.
You go build these projects.
You go do these NFTs.
You go do these events.
And I'll come and let's talk about them.
But I'm so, like, honestly, I'm just super grateful for Captain and Steve and the words, and Staki and Jen this week, KidJet, you know,
who took me in the board party.
Was it Friday night?
Yes, Friday night.
Guys, the days.
It's all one day at this point.
It's such a blur.
But squeeze taxes, clubhouse, gratitude hotels.
Like, I could just go on and on.
And I will say one thing.
Guys, as much as you guys like and follow and share my stuff, I do the same for you, right?
Like, if you go check, I like and share and I reach out.
I write to the DM.
So I just want you to know this is an ongoing thing that we need to keep doing.
And we've seen so many people leave.
And let's not, you know, let's, you know, let's bless them.
And they're on to different things.
But this community got so small.
And so I just want us to remember each other.
You know, people were telling me, Steve, I hope you're going to remember me when you're
going to be that big.
What do you mean?
It's because of you that I'm here. Like like i'm here because of each and every single one of
you so thank you so much um honestly i punter like just everyone i thank you again steve captain
you're killing it i don't know like my voice is about to die again but um i love you guys thank
you i love you lots of love you. I love you.
Lots of love on the stage. I second that.
Girl in the Verse is the best.
We have roommates for a bit.
We had a good time.
Y'all are great.
And we appreciate, you know, we appreciate, I mean, everyone on the stage.
And, you know, kind of like to Jen's point earlier, like, you remember how people made you feel.
And, like, I remember how I felt, you know.
I mean, Cap and I talked about it. felt you know you know I mean Cap and I talked
about it we're just like like I mean we talked about people like Jen girl in the verse Stacking
like we would get in because we were essentially like we'd go to one location shout out Cap for
having his car down there get in the car debrief you know have our thoughts because we're always
thinking like what's the high level takeaway here and you know what do we enjoy what's going on
where we going next and you know your brand personal brand is what people say behind your back and I can tell you like all of
y'all on stage right now the things we say behind your back are nothing but good right and you know
for us personally so our experience has been awesome um I want to kick it down to Jaybrush
and then we'll go to punter and then I do have a meeting at 11 so got to kind of keep running
through but Jaybrush you have been so patient you biked you exercise you're the most exercised man in miami this week
everyone was drinking this guy's running on the beach doing coffee with captain he's showing up
in a bike showing off the guns didn't know if he could get in did you bike six miles to the
live show yeah six and a half miles there six and a half miles back then our planet tweets that they're
having an event right next to where you guys did so another six and a half another six and a half
back 20 miles in total that day and you know i do it all built different gay brush is built different
i saw so many people on the streets i i uh i don't know if josh is still here but i saw
i was i was riding my bike to scope the art exhibition.
I saw Farouk, and I saw Josh, and I'm just yelling at them at the streets.
I saw Captain and Steve struggling to get a tie on in the front of the WOW Gala.
I had to run up and say what's up.
It was a blast.
He's talking to me.
Steve tied his bow tie perfectly.
I mentioned on here I had not tied a tie for a while.
I used to be able to tie one of the best Windsors you would ever see. Steve tied his bow tie perfectly. I mentioned on here I had not tied a tie for a while.
I used to be able to tie one of the best Windsors you would ever see.
And I – like blindfolded.
I could have done it blindfolded.
We're outside.
I have no mirror.
I had a decent knot my first attempt in the car, but I wasn't happy with it.
It wasn't perfect.
So my OCD kicks in. I try to retie it, and after like four, five, six attempts, I kid you not, I had to take it off. I go, Steve, can you bail me out? And he had to retie it and after like four or five six attempts i kid
you not i had to take it off i go steve can you bail me out and he had to tie his tie to hand it
back to me this was this was the couple that steve and i uh portrayed over uh over a few days at
art like a like like a proud papa i uh i yeah because like i hadn't tied a tie or a boat i
i tied a time more recently but like i hadn't tied a bow tie in like five years and i'm like all right
hopefully this works and like literally i think it was like my second try I'm like that's a pretty good bow tie like there's
pictures out there and then yeah like tied the uh tie around my neck I in fairness to Cap I have
had more experience with ties in the past few years just retying them so tied it around my neck
did the loose and handed it to him thing and we were off in our matching ties to the world of
women gala but Jay Brush go ahead and continue yeah i was just on the street laughing at you guys for like a good five minutes so it was
awesome and um no i just wanted to hop up and say you know congratulations on the one year um i think
for me you'd be hard pressed to find someone whose web3 journey hasn't been more influenced by coffee
with captain and dj network um i came into the space November 2021, promptly jumped into Coffee with Captain.
And every single community and project I'm involved with and person I know has been because
of you guys.
And, you know, not coincidentally, I've had a great journey here.
So I really appreciate you guys.
And Captain was saying, you know, 90% of the people in Miami were builders, founders, and coming from a community point of view.
It was surreal.
I'll just give one example of how you guys have influenced me.
You guys had Our Planet on here, and I just was so blown away by them and you know i watched uh um i watched a
couple interviews and i jumped into the project and and you know i biked back to the event and
and you know all of a sudden i'm sitting there with 12 people and in front of me is uh is josh
and to the left of me you know i'm just a community member but you know these are the
valuable connections i've made just by being on Coffee with Captain, being involved with DJ.
And so while you guys always say we have no financial incentive.
I think what we get is.
You're rugging a little, Jay Brush. You still there? Or am I rugging?
Much more important.
It's Jay Brush. you're rugging a little jbrush you still there or am i much more important that's it's jbrush you got me no you're good jbrush and yeah now you're you're good i was gonna say one thing i
don't know if you heard this one thing i said to start the show was like actually the first thing
my first experience was i walked in you and mananny Darks were hanging out at the table.
And the first thing is I walked in and you said,
everybody here is building something.
And that was why I started off the show with that.
And I was like, J-Brush like set the tone for the weekend.
He was exactly right.
So no, I appreciate you, J-Brush.
Appreciate, you know, it's been great getting to know you.
It's been great.
Like you're somebody who shows up to everything.
You're always out there.
And again, the hardest working man in Miami biking around town.
Let's go down to Punter.
Punter, go ahead and get back in here, my friend.
I'll be real quick.
You know, I think you guys said hard stop at 10,
and that's just part of Coffee with Captain, right?
Hard stop at 10. It's almost 1040.
I've tabled all my meetings.
And, you know, it's great hearing from. I've tabled all my meetings just, and you know,
it's great hearing from Stacky, Jen and girl in the verse. And I could hear like emotion in people's
voice. And I didn't want this to turn into a love fest, but I did want to pop back up and just say
one thing. Like you guys entrust me to, to, to, with your brand, like when you, when you invite
me up and let me co-host every once in a while, like you're endorsing, like you're entrusting me with your brand, right?
And that, I can't tell you what that means to me.
And I just want everybody who's still here to know how much damn work this is.
But it's an amazing kind of work.
And because like after I co-host from time to time, like I'll have my DMs will be full with comments like, oh man, you shouldn't have said that.
Or, oh man, I totally agree with what you said there.
And, like, just think about that on a scale of times 100, which is what Steve and Captain are having to deal with sometimes.
And I know I can say this, like, they try their best to answer every comment they can, I'm sure.
And, you know, so it goes beyond the couple of hours of spaces that we do every morning
to, so like, I don't even know how you guys do it. I said it wasn't going to turn into a love
fest, but I just want to throw some flowers at your way because the amount of time that you give
to the people in the community and the dedication you have to web three, it's, it's really overwhelming.
And like I said earlier, glad to be on this journey with you guys and I am done talking.
earlier glad to be on this journey with you guys and i am done talking appreciate that hunter uh
steve before we wrap i i saw baron jump up i don't know if you were in earlier i was given some your
your space that you do with with nana with sean some flowers and and um we we haven't even i know
we ran into each other a few times this this uh this weekend it was was always awesome to connect
with you uh and and your crew but i i didn But I don't know if I ever followed up or connected the conversations I was having with Nana afterwards.
And just wanted to give you and him some flowers.
I mean, beyond just that space you host, you've defined showing up since I've been in Apes, right?
Since I got in the space, since you came across my path on Twitter the very first time, like if I think of someone who just
shows up and puts in the work, uh, you're, you're at the top of that short list. So just, I know you
didn't have my hand up, but I wanted to put you on the spot a little bit, maybe plug, if you've
got an upcoming link, feel free to throw that up above, but for those who aren't familiar, you know,
maybe talk about that space and anything else you wanted to share this morning, but it was just,
you're, you're one of these great memories, uh every chance we have uh whether it's ape fest or
or art basil and uh was was certainly uh no different this weekend yo thank you so much man
and i i wanted to just jump up here because i i first off it's like 7 a.m i'm back in san diego
i've been up since four because i'm i don't know why um but i saw you guys and I just, I love what you guys do.
I love meeting you guys every time in real life.
I said it all week and I'll continue to say it.
Every in real life week is like summer camp.
We get to see our friends, we get to party,
we get to hang out, we get to reconnect.
There's two types of people that go to events.
There's people that go to events to meet the people
and see what they're like and get a vibe.
And there's people who go to events to meet the people and see what they're like and get a vibe.
And there's people who are hunting for opportunities.
So for me, I think it's better to be in the first one.
Go meet people.
Go experience them.
We're all working together anyways.
You can ask for opportunities later, right?
So like look in someone's eyes, share their energy, share some moments with them.
You know, like I had some genuine conversations with some people i never thought i'd meet and now we're like exchanging texts on the on the regular like i had an ape and i were texting each other like love you buddy i didn't know we were going to be
best friends after this weekend kind of shit you know and captain is one of the most genuine people
so is steve uh kid jet i wanted to come up here mainly because i saw you pop up and yo that break dancing thing was amazing bro like
i didn't realize how much fun that whole experience was going to be but i
recorded the whole thing i never record it for like five minutes
straight to the point where my arm was shaking
because i was like i have to capture this moment because it was so sick
i ended up talking to garga he was like i missed it man all of a sudden boom i
popped it out and showed it to garga. And now we're sitting there watching these break dancers
on my phone. And you know what's cool to you guys? And this is what girl in the verse said earlier,
is you got to put in the work. You don't put in the work because you want the reward. You put in
the work because you love this shit. And people recognize what you're doing or they don't. It
doesn't matter. But you do it because you love it and like i'd never met garga till this week right
i turned around and he was like yo baron i love your show specifically this one episode when you
had tom sacks on your show and i'm like oh you're aware of what i do so like that that gave me a new
perspective that like the people out here we're all aware of each other we're all watching each other right so even if you are like just starting your following people are aware of what you're
doing I promise you that so like be positive be genuine put in the work but like be a good person
and events like this is when you get to I hate to say it but like this is when you get to gauge
people's energy right like is this someone I want to figure out a relationship with?
Certain people I'll make shit happen for now because I'm like,
oh, I didn't know you were this dope.
I had an idea, but now I'm going to push harder for you.
There are certain artists this week where I met, and they're so shy,
but they're so talented.
I was like, come on my show every week.
I got 40-some thousand followers.
I don't care.
Talk to all of
them as often we'll showcase you because you need to have more eyes on your work so i just wanted
to come up here and say thank you steve and captain because you guys like you guys were so
kind to my girlfriend and that spoke volumes to me about your character so i appreciate both of you a
lot no right right back at you, um, as my voice,
like still slowly slips away, but we're powering through it. Um,
I'll say this, man, like you're one of the people I always reference as like
the great energy people.
Like I could tell your character from Twitter when I started in this space.
And one of the early discords that I met some people in and got to
know people in was the original hustle house discord back in the wax days. Um, I remember
the rap song, the, when someone did a rap song and they said stack and wax, like Varenbon hustle.
Like I have these moments where I like, remember like your energy and what you bring and who you
represent, you know, there's times when you've shared your story about your past with your
parents and things that really just hits home. So I think like, you know, for's times when you've shared your story about your past with your parents and things that really just hits home.
So I think like, you know, for you, like you're somebody who I really respect in this world, you know, since I got into this world.
And I was even when I was a lurker before I set this account up in April or whatever it was, when I was like lurking the first few months, I was really into NFTs.
You know, you and Josh Ong and other people, there's so many people I just have a deep respect for and a deep appreciation for.
So the words mean more than you know, always love seeing you.
And like, you know, it's great to have this thing when you talk about the summer camp analogy.
That's one of the things that's wonderful about these in-person events is, you know, captains, you know, mentioned it have the college experience, but it's like the first time I can remember like in years where, you know, if I go out with my wife and my friends here locally,
maybe by serendipity, we see somebody we know, right?
Maybe one person, every event I go to, not only are you planning to meet up with people,
but it's like, we're outside of Word of Women, Gal, I get a tap, Baron walking in, just saying,
what's up?
How's it going?
You know, see him and his girlfriend, you know, say what's up, you know, dap them up.
It's like, whether you have a long conversation or you just dap someone up real quick.
It's like, you know, somebody who we're friends with, Cap and I, that we got to see briefly,
we were happy.
We're at the World Women Gala.
Gabe Weiss, another all-time great energy guy.
Stoics, you know, created the Stoics, love Gabe Weiss.
It's like, you know, Cap and I are just kind of bouncing around and running to Gabe.
And, you know, it's like, it was a quick conversation but it was great speaking of compersion i was pumped for the
individuals who got like a custom one-of-one shirt uh with with a one-of-one gabe on there
um not jealous i'm very happy for them i will absolutely be uh hounding gabe for some shirt
on a or some art on a shirt next time I see him in a con.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, Gabe is exactly what people expect in person.
I mean, we got the experience at VCon, but NFT NYC.
Speaking of what people expect in person,
there's one listening in now that exceeded my expectations.
It may be pretty, would be hard to do
because I already had high expectations of her pretty would be hard to do because i already had
high expectations of her but shout out to aka stevie another one of my memorable moments too
actually in fact that i need to call out and single single out here was meeting stevie at the
proof event was was awesome uh just a like a an infectious smile like it's hard not it's hard to
interact with stevie and like leave like not being pumped up
and excited and just stevie is a vibe and uh just just wanted to recognize that and then
baron mentioned his girlfriend like steve you i don't know even if i shared this with you yet
because it was um you didn't get to see it in action but um last year at nftnyc i i gave away
some starbucks gift cards with my ape sticker on them. This was inspired by our friend Crypto Painter Richard. Many times he's given away, he she pulls out the Starbucks card with my sticker on it.
And it was the second or third time
that someone had referenced that
or had made that physical connection
or that memorable connection with myself.
I didn't really give it much thought after NFTYC.
It was just something that hit me then
and I did it and thought it was going to be a one-off.
Well, long story short,
realizing that it had an impact like that
and someone was going to hold a Starbucks card with a sticker on it for a year.
I went out the next day and got a Starbucks card for each sticker I had on me,
gave those out at Ape Fest.
His girlfriend is one of two individuals in the world that hold two of two of the Starbucks
Captain gift cards.
But no, that was just another memorable moment.
It's just little things like that.
You never know what-
Captain, that gives me the biggest smile
because when we were at the airport,
she pulled it out and she says,
I'm one of just a few people in the entire world
that has two of captains.
She says, I'm a captain whale now and I lost it.
That was so fucking funny, man.
But those are the kind of memories man that like you
take with you really deep into the future you know it's awesome i mean and it's it's what makes
you know again i know not everyone can go to irl and i'm cognizant of that that's why i'm glad we
have spaces like this where if you can't make irl you know having you up here i hope is the next
best thing where we can you know know, not just give you.
You know what, though?
I'm not going to be apologetic here.
You don't have to make everyone, but find a way.
Like, if you're passionate about this space, if you want to build, if you want to connect with people, find a way.
Like, don't make excuses.
Find a way to get to at least one event next year.
There's going to be several to choose from in the spring from, from the Northeast to the West coast,
whether it's proof of conference or V con in the Midwest or NFT NYC,
I would recommend choosing one of those three,
start planning it now,
book your book,
your travel ahead,
you know,
find some friends you can get an Airbnb with.
I didn't spend,
I spent less than a hundred dollars the entire week on travel food.
Um, because a lot of the a lot of
the events had had food there was there was stuff there like it's understandably so it is expensive
to travel and it's it's a commitment of time but if you really aspire to to make a career in web
three find a way to get to one of those events uh in in the spring and you won't regret it in fact
i would say if it's your first event, it will likely,
and you really want to put your head down and build,
that one of those three events, if you make it, it will likely jumpstart your career
or provide the inspiration like Grow on a Verse just shared that like,
hey, this is what I need to do to do what I want to do in this space.
Yeah, I mean, it's true.
I mean, you will leave, you you know i would be shocked if you
don't like go to an event and have some intentionality the very worst thing you will
leave with you know and is you will leave with some new lifelong friends in the worst case scenario
in that one but yeah i mean but but that's why again you know whether it's that or even small
things right proof did their did their European tour.
They're going to do an Asian one.
They're going to do an Australian one, as I understand it.
They're at least trying to get out there and meet people around the world.
So that gives you some location spots that maybe you could travel to.
I know Vicky mentioned wanting, hey, we need events that are around the world
or ones that are smaller where people can do things almost more decentralized.
We heard Kevin from DGods mention that that's something they're looking into.
How can we activate people in these smaller ones?
These big ones are the gathering to me.
Like I've spent more money than I should on,
on travel the last couple of years.
But I told myself, I mean,
I don't know if I've shared this on this space.
Like a lot of people said like, what are, you know,
what's your goal or what are you doing?
And like, I'm trying to do as much as I can over, you know,
a 27 month period of time thinking that, you know, three to five years is when this thing becomes scalable to
go as hard as I can. And if I fail, if I don't continue to succeed, or if I decide I don't want
to do it, or I can't pick fine. Then at the end of that, I'll say I can go back to the real world,
but at least I tried. So I've done a lot of the IRL stuff. I know everyone can't go to every
single one, right? Like not everybody's, you know, sort of saved or can do it or can make that work.
But if you can make one, I agree with Cap.
I mean, you will leave feeling great for sure.
You will leave it worse with lifelong friends because you will meet people in that community.
But hopefully some of these dispersed ones around the world start to happen.
So even on a smaller basis, you can start to create those sub-communities that have really good opportunities to connect so um with that said i did mention vicky let's go
vicky sean and then we will uh probably close down in the next uh seven minutes because i have an
11 o'clock meeting and i probably will be washing my face while vicky is talking so that i don't
look too haggard on it um i just suddenly thought we were talking about events for next year we were
talking about coffee shops earlier i think that um obviously got v friends
in may i think it would be awesome to have a coffee shop with captain live shows for in the
mornings it might be slightly earlier before the v friends kicks off so that we all start there and
then head over to the v con that's not a bad idea because we did hit on one of our um one of our beefs with vcon was there
was only one that one caribou coffee line and we're like someone sets off a coffee coffee truck
sets up a coffee truck they're going to make be the change you want to see in the world right steve
that's it and that change is more coffee um so yeah we need to start i think cap like our challenge and maybe we need
to expand the team as dj grows and we get sponsorships and things our challenge is
we need to start i think in the future we are committing ourselves we won't i'm just saying
this but we will try well we're committing to trying there there's the out to being more planful
than having peter fang and kid jet and Swicky bail us out at the date before
and get us a really awesome location like they did this time. By the way, best possible coffee
location. I mean, it was amazing. Outdoor areas, indoor areas, outside of the birds that tried to
start a fight with me that I ultimately won. It was great. And so honestly, like couldn't ask for
a better setup. So, you know, we'll try to be more planful and have some thoughts on it we're trying to now that we have dgen operational stuff set up dm's open if
anyone wants to uh collaborate on a coffee cart or has a coffee shop in downtown indy
we'll run with this idea we've got enough time to pull this off yeah we'll pay for it
if you want to do it that was that was quick sean how was your what what else what else
this is how bezdev gets done sean appreciate you i'm in cincinnati i can coordinate the
indie stuff but yeah i just hated that line at vcon i i walked down to starbucks which was like
six blocks away to get coffee all week or all weekend um and, how did you only spend $100?
I need to hang out with you.
Let's be fair to Captain,
or let's be honest, Captain,
to be fair to the audience.
Captain drove his car from Tampa.
So because he drove his car from Tampa,
no Ubers, so that helped.
Yeah, true.
So I think like...
I'm just jealous.
Yeah, it was well done.
Steve, he gave the USD number,
not the ETH number.
How much ETH did you spend, though?
That could be different.
Well, we'll save the 9DCC conversation for another call, another space.
That was Steve getting me to FOMO in.
I don't usually make those kind of moves, but we'll blame that one on Steve.
I will say my Uber bill alone at NFT NYC was probably 10x my entire expense of our puzzle trip.
Yeah, true.
Same.
But yeah, I was trying to nurse my voice back and stay off stage.
But I do want to tell you guys, I mean, I swung by.
I showed Steve mid-stretch while he was stretching that I was in the house.
But I had a little PTSD. We,
we had did our event at that place the night before. So I was there from five to one in the
morning talking to all of our friend holders, but I still wanted to just show up to show you guys
love in person. And yeah, I'm pumped to have found this space. And as you mentioned, there's other
spaces that happen around the same time, but I used to hang out in there,
which is what made me late to this space.
But I'm a,
I'm a big fan of your guys's willingness and the fact that you've let
people come up here and build community with you versus the stages that
just kind of hold the same nine people for the entire show.
So, I don't know.
I just – this became one of my – I've been in 500 different Twitter spaces
over the past year and a half, and this has become one of my favorites.
So, I'm glad to have you guys creating in the space.
And then the reason why I wasn't able to stay and talk and hug it out in person,
I actually had the, she's the, like, I don't know her title,
but head of creative partnerships at OpenSea,
meet me at your L spot, wasn't planned.
It was just, like, she was close.
So I told her all about you guys in the show and, like,
what you guys have created is why web 3 is powerful and important to
me so if you ever want me to bridge that intro for you she knows all about you guys now obviously
I was explaining it in a funny way because we were all in person and everybody's sitting in
their own little corners of the place but um I'm always like trying to get these big companies to
actually come out here in the twitter streets with us so it was a good example to be able to like highlight how much stuff is
being built behind the scenes so um i just wanted to tell you guys why i didn't kick it or stay
around no i appreciate the kind words no apologies needed yeah i really appreciate the kind words and
i i hope for the everyone still listening in like this is we couldn, we couldn't think of a better way to wrap today's show
because this truly is like you just witnessed
in about less than five minutes there
the ethos and everything we were talking about.
That guy summarizes Web3
and anything from the collaboration
to spin up a coffee shop or a coffee cart at VCon.
Like this will happen.
This isn't like,
call Sean, myself, Steve out,
we'll make this happen now. It's not going to be
because Steve and I will make it happen. Sean committed, and
he's not just doing that to blow
smoke. This is Web3, and
then from that to leading into
like, hey, if there's anything I can do to help with
the intro to OpenSea,
this is
what's happened time and time and time again
to both Steve and I and so many others in the space.
We talk about showing up, it's show up, help others,
and you get a witness.
If it's karma, there's a better word for it,
but really a special time.
I appreciate you, Adam.
I appreciate you.
I couldn't think of a better way to wrap the show.
On that, I will turn it to Steve
and if you are looking for a place to continue the
conversation
Ryan's show his daily dose I think
it continues on for another half hour I think he's doing a full hour
on that it was great to see Ryan
in Miami as well
we didn't even get to touch on that one this morning but Steve
I'll kick it to you to turn down and as always we'll be
running this back every weekday at
8am Eastern time.
Usually don't go quite this long,
but appreciate the everyone's showing up.
It's been an amazing year and can't wait for many,
many more.
And then,
and if you're still around this afternoon looking for something,
don't miss the mint condition.
They're now doing a Monday show on Twitter spaces. That's at 4 p.m.
I did link that up above.
Go ahead and set the reminder as Steve takes us out.
Yeah. I just appreciate everybody coming by this morning appreciate the kind words we'll probably continue uh art puzzle recap tomorrow
because i know we didn't get into friday as much but i'm really glad the um you know the conversation
went this direction just because it's nice to celebrate and reflect on a year and um at the
end of the day as i as i head off into my uh 11 o'clock meeting you know for me this is all about the people and i am just so unbelievably thankful grateful there's just not a word strong
enough in the english language for me to say how much it means to me everybody that's here
everything that captain does and everything we do together so thank you all for coming this morning
thank you all for talking through art fossilel. Thanks for talking through the one year.
Back to our regular schedule program tomorrow.
Yeah, we'll probably be talking, let's say,
we might even do a Which Horse is your back in early
because I know we're packed Wednesday cap,
so maybe we'll do that.
And yeah, looking forward to continuing the conversation
about Basel tomorrow.
Thanks to everyone for coming by today.
Have a wonderful, wonderful day, everybody.
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