Building in Otherside, Vibe Coding, AI, MML & more| Grateful Show #442

Recorded: Feb. 26, 2026 Duration: 2:45:34
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And with the local DBC News, Devin Kutteg with a triumphant comeback.
I say the heart, but tonight.
Don't call it a comeback!
I've been here for years, I'm rocking my pants, putting songs in fear.
Making the tears rain down like a monsoon.
Listen to my bass go boom, explode in ears.
Overpowering, over the competition I'm towering records
When I drop these lyrics
That I make you call the cops
Don't you dare stare
You better move, don't ever compare
Me to the wrist that I own
Get sliced and diced
Competition's paying the price
I'm gonna knock you out
Mama said knock you out
I'm gonna knock you out. Mama said knock you out. I'm gonna knock you out.
Mama said knock you out.
I'm gonna knock you out.
Mama said knock you out.
Mama said knock you out.
I'm gonna knock you out.
Mama said knock you out.
Don't you call this a regular jam.
I'm gonna rap this man.
I'm gonna take this city bitty world by storm.
And I'm just getting warm.
Just like Muhammad Ali, they call them Cassius.
Watch me fast, it's beatin' like a skull.
That's a new I hate beat with.
Why do you rip with me, the maniac psycho?
And when I pull out my jam, I get ready,
cause it might go blow.
How you like me now?
The ripper will not allow
youtube big rip mr slip don't rest listen to my kid shift i'm blasting i'm blasting color like
shaft so you can say i'm shafted yo what's up everybody it's thursday that means grateful
show we have such a crazy lineup we're gonna be talking building
in the other side MML vibe coding AI and more and more it's gonna be absolutely wild guys guys I see
huge progress in the other side especially with Rita and Tropical Virtual they have been killing
it for for ages now in the other side and it's gonna be really interesting to learn more what
they have been doing and how can we also participate but we still have over two minutes of intro guys so
drop a gm in the comments retweet the space bookmark the space you know make it more visible
we're gonna have a lot of fun today it's gonna be wild let's go
One, two, three, and to the folks.
Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door.
Ready to make an entrance, so back on up.
Cause you know about to rip shit up.
Give me the microphone first so I can bust like a bubble.
Constant and Lone Beast together, now you know you struggle.
Ain't nothing but a G-bang, baby.
Too low-deaf
they can so it crazy death row is the label that pays back unfatable so please don't try to face
it but i'll back to the lecture at hand perfectionist perfected so i'm gonna let
them understand from a young g's perspective and before me digger the bitch i have to find
the contraceptive you never know she could be be earnin' her man, and learnin' her man
And at the same time, earnin' her man
Now you know I ain't with that shit, but can it?
Ain't no pussy good enough to get burned while I'm offended
And that's relevant, real deal, how do we feel?
And that you hooked us in hoes know how I feel
Well, if it's good enough to get broke off a proper chunk
I take a small piece of some of that funky stuff
It's like this and like that and like this and uh It's like this and like that and like this and uh
It's like that and like this and like that and uh
It's like this and like that and like this and uh
Drake creep to the mic like a fan
Well I'm beepin' and I'm creepin' and I'm creepin'
But I damn nigga count
It's my beeper 10 feet
And now it's time for me to make my impression felt
So sit back, relax, and strap on your seat
Y'all should never been on a ride like this before
What if it's so who can rap and control the maestro Sit back, relax, and strap on your seat, y'all. You've never been on a ride like this before.
What if it do so who can rap and control the mice, bro?
At the same time with the dope rhyme that I kick, you know and I know I throw some old funky shit.
To add to my collection, this election symbolizes dope.
Take a toe, but don't choke.
If you do, you have no clue.
Of what me and my homie Snoop Dogg came to do.
It's like this and like that and like this, and uh.
It's like that and like this and like this And it's like that and like this and like that And it's like this
And who gives a fuck about both
So just chill till the next episode
Hell yeah guys
So chill till the next episode
What a banger, what a great vibe
This is Grateful Show 442
Let's go, baby!
GMGM, everybody. Hyped to be here. Amazing topic. Other side, MML, Vibe Coding, AI and everything.
How to build there, what to learn, and how to learn. Yeah, we already have Tropical here on stage.
I see Rita.
I also want to shout out Poser, that MF-er.
That MF-er, that's the MF-er that's been painting all those BMWs, BMW suitcases.
I don't know what else.
You know, so another legend in the club.
Dr. Dave Coyne, I will bring also Rita here, NGB on stage,
JCS Snacks, the best sold in nuts in the world.
Dr. DaveCoin, Zombie Rob, Otis, and so on,
Haifa, and so on, and so on, and so on.
We have so many legend, I will bring Poser here.
Maybe he wanna give away one of his BMWs.
I don't know.
I don't know.
We'll see.
We'll see.
You never know.
Let me quickly circle around.
Say hi to all the legends here on stage.
And guys, please retweet the space.
It will help to actually spread the alpha across the whole Web3.
So all 300 people will see it.
Let's start with NGB.
Ape Chain Legend.
NGB, how are you doing today, man?
What's going on, man?
I'm doing great as always.
Thanks for having me.
Excited to talk about some MML stuff,
Vibe Coding, Other Side.
I think we're action-packed,
so thanks for having me.
Got some legends up here as well.
Tropical, been cooking since day one for the club.
Poser as well.
I mean, we all know Rita.
Ain't no leader like Rita.
Machiavelli, Macha Macha, the attacker in the other side.
And is Six Revolt up here?
If he is, shout out to him too.
But yeah, man, excited for a great show.
Also really excited.
There's no other side building without Rita here.
Rita, how are you doing, bro?
What's going on, man?
What's cooking?
What's up, grateful?
What's up, GB?
What's up, everyone?
How are you doing, my man?
Doing great, man.
So basically, I'm fasting for Ramadan.
Oh, shit, bro.
We're day nine. But no, no. Now I'm fasting for Ramadan. Oh, shit, bro. We're day nine, but no, no.
Now I'm speaking.
The only reason why I agreed is now I can have my coffee and cigarettes.
So I'm just starting my day now.
Oh, you can start a day after dark, right?
Yeah, after six o'clock, we can start eating, drinking coffee and smoking and stuff like that.
I love it.
So you're ready, man.
Yeah, so now I've been able to join all these crazy spaces at night
and even managed to finally join Tropico's bubble.
Been meaning to do that for a long time,
but it's usually at 2 a.m., 3 a.m. my time.
I can still smell it.
You can still smell it, McAvely.
Oh, my God. What did you do in that bubble, guys?
Bro, fasting the whole day, then drinking coffee, there's gases.
There is gases, and I wanted to share the gases with all my Web3 friends.
So you should switch your PFP for CODA, bro.
No, bro, I was twerking, and it was a whole thing. It was a whole thing.
What does your Koda look like Rita? I'll show you. I'll show you what my Koda looks like.
It's the sexiest Koda. I believe that. I actually asked Rita to show me his coda and i didn't expect in the dms so no no
when you said when you said coda you said it in a weird you said show me your coda was in a dark
alley somewhere yeah that was that was a different coda that you asked to see grateful
only grateful knows what that coda looks like Just kidding. How does Grateful Spaces start with a topic?
He puts a topic up, vibe coding, AI, MML and all that.
And then we're talking about this kind of bullshit.
Bro, this is like a warm up.
Basically, people are most interested in this warm up.
So we can talk shit, right?
And then they will learn.
So you need to attract them with this talk, man.
So the crazier the intro, the better.
So, you know, I'm getting DMs from Otter and Murdoch
and Dr. Dave Cohen and Spectre,
and they're like, keep going, guys.
You know, it has to be even weirder than now.
So Rita, all good, man.
All good, don't worry.
The only problem is AI,
because they've been transcribing all the spaces,
and then they are like, holy shit, the space was called MML and they talk about codas, you know, and tiny codas.
Speaking of transcribing, where is that clipper? Where is Beast? I haven't seen him in a while.
Bro, Beast is probably on the other side.
Bro, Beast was clipping and transcribing before there was a
Yeah, and now I call my AI agent beast so yeah
Makes sense makes sense. Yeah, look at tropical. He dropped down. Oh that's sad, but he gonna come back
Maca Valley, how you doing bro? What's going on man? Oh
Man, I'm having a great day day it is a beautiful day in the neighborhood um i hope you
guys are having a wonderful day won't you be my neighbor in tropical virtuals you know what i'm
saying hotel maybe holy shit man i i have to i learn i want to learn more i want to i want to
build some stuff there so 100 100 i'll be your neighbor uh without gases without gases, so don't worry. And I also see Poser here, the BMW MFR.
Poser, how are you doing? Are you in Germany right now? Hey, what's up, what's up? Yeah, I'm in the
morning right now and did some custom things again for BMW or still doing it until Saturday.
it until Saturday. So yeah, I just want to say hi to all those motherfuckers who are
here. And yeah, that's nice to see you again. I was not so active last few weeks or months
because I've been fully focused on those projects. And as well, we got the DILAs inside the other side.
So thanks to RIDA and all the team from the other side to let them in.
So I'm pretty happy.
At least we got the main character, but we will continue.
We never stop, we are still cooking.
So yeah, I'm here in Monich and going back to work on my stuff on over the weekend
and we'll be back finally in czech and we can do something else so what's the craziest bmw
that you actually painted on uh actually i'm not painting on the cars right now. I did some suitcases as well and did some custom
teas for the visitors. And yeah, it was pretty fun. A lot of spray cans, a lot of stencils,
graffiti and stuff. So it's funny how big brands like this now cooperating with the street style, you know, and the lifestyle things from
for their brand like
BMW Lifestyle. So it's
really nice because if I can imagine
10 years ago, it was
like when I said
somebody, I'm a graffiti artist, everybody
like see me as
a junkie, you know.
I still see you as a junkie. Yeah, but I still see you as a junkie.
Yeah, but you know,
I'm still junkie, so it's fine,
you know? We are on the
same boat, right?
Do I ask questions now or
later, Gator? Ask, ask.
Bowser, you're doing stuff
for the club or for BMW
directly? It's directly
for BMW right now.
But we will... Let's go. You see, this is the best utility of the club. Yeah, this is it.
Pouser was a graffiti artist and now he's working for one of the biggest brands in the world
and that was only made possible by him being part of the board API. Yeah, this is it. That's what I'm saying. The networking here is the most important thing.
I think for Pouser and for me it's great because I'm getting cut 45% for what he get from BMW, because I got him into Apes,
and there's an MML in the title,
but I think it should be MLM, right?
Multilevel Marketing,
and Pouser is underneath me, you know,
so he's paying me basically for that.
Yeah, I will stop by in Prague when I will go back, you know.
Bring cash, you MF-er,
but this is amazing, right?
And I know you were really busy during ApeFest
and working with BMW is great.
When meet up in BMW Museum in Munich,
that would be dope.
Like Ape's taking over, you know,
we would get some M4s, drive around Germany.
There's unlimited speed limit on highway.
You know, we can do like, I don't know,
150, 170 miles per hour
that would be good yeah that would be definitely nice but but you know this this event was focused
more on on the partners and and distributions and stuff like that so so a lot of guys in the suits
and and yeah it was was pretty to see it you you know, like all the big brand stuff, you know.
Yeah, love it.
NGB, so when BMW Museum take over?
I don't know.
No, I'm asking NGB, man.
He will finance it.
Have you seen the BMW Museum, Grateful?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's no fucking way we can take over that.
Nah, it's huge, bro.
Epic, guys.
If you have any questions for the speaker here,
go to the comments, ask questions there.
Also, again, please retweet the space.
It helps with Algo because Algo is wild on X.
I don't know what's
going on um i think uh nikita is changing algo you know talking to gpt probably i don't know
what is he doing so please retweet the space and let's get into building in the other side and
rita i will start with you i know you had a really dope announcement for for g's
iso wearables, marketplace.
So can you give us some overview what you've been cooking, man?
Yeah, no. So since we did peanuts and since we did the staking, we always try to find new revenue streams for the staking rewards and for the G's.
So we've been building this for quite a while, the wearables system and the marketplace.
The marketplace is basically where you buy and sell these wearables,
where you buy and sell any Gs-related stuff,
including Gs themselves.
But the wearables system we've been building for quite a while,
and it's finally working.
And it's where I like it to be.
They're a bit dynamic.
I can't remember what the token standard is.
But basically, your wearable has its own wallet.
So if you buy it and you don't equip it, it stays in your wallet.
As soon as you equip it to a G, that NFT moves from your wallet
and goes to the G's wallet.
It's all cool and stuff, all technical.
You know, I have to do all the technical explanations.
He's not here.
But no, it's all cool.
Hopefully, they will become interoperable in the very near future as well.
Man, I think we hosted a guy who actually came up with that standard.
It was ERC6551, right?
We had him here.
And I spoke to him on the space and I spoke to him in DMs.
A lot of my connections, to be honest, I've done through your space breakthrough.
I met his dad at NFT NYC and he gave me this little domino that had a QR code to get a block of that guy's time to have a meeting with him if I ever wanted to discuss the ERC, that ERC standard.
And yeah, I just thought that was pretty interesting.
I still have that as a momentum.
Yeah, so we applied that standard on these NFTs, the wearables NFTs.
They actually have their own wallet.
So in the future, you'll be able to even
upgrade those nfts and send tokens to that nfts and other nfts to that nft so if you remember a
while back we did the backpack those will be on the same standard and you can have stuff
on the backpack and it will be basically an inventory you can carry on the other side
It will be basically an inventory you can carry on the other side.
Man, that's incredible.
And I'm really happy what you said, that you made a lot of connections through the show.
It's so awesome to see all these connections.
You know, you have a guest on stage, you guys join, you start chatting with the guy, you connect and you make it happen.
By the way, the space we're talking about, man, time is crazy.
Another person I met on your space and we used their help is Ready Player Zero. Remember,
we met them with you guys. They sold to Netflix, but this system, the wearable system, we started
working on it with them. They did a demo with the Gs and the apes and all that.
Yeah, that's another connection we made through you, Grateful. Thank you.
And that's why I've been paying you $50,000 per month.
Bro, I love those dollars. They are amazing. They just, you know, there's some issue in my bank app
or in my Ethereum wallet. It's probably also that, uh, ERC 6551 standard, right?
Because I don't, I don't see those.
I send them to Pouser.
He's still converting to Kronos.
I don't know why he's converting to Kronos, but, uh, yeah.
Check Pouser.
He has your check.
I'll check him.
I'll find him.
But Rita, we hosted that guy.
It was June 2023
almost 3 years ago
man that's crazy
how time flies
who are you talking about
about that space about ERC
no no you hosted him even in 2025
another one probably.
Okay, so I found the old one.
Yeah, maybe you're right.
You hosted them in 2025.
They were up here with another partner.
They were launching something else.
Okay, so this was the...
I remember when it was.
It was during the agents.
Remember those agents that you hosted?
Yeah, I remember that.
I remember that.
Awesome, man.
So if I buy a wearable with peanuts, do I see that wearable on my G in the other side?
Yes, you can equip it from our website.
You can equip it straight.
It goes straight to your Gs and you can unequip it and it gets removed.
Hopefully, well, I don't know i'm supposed to
talk about all that but hopefully in the future you'll be able to equip and unequip from within
other side um so you can do all that from within other side in the near future i think
sorry but i see too many people with yuga yuga tags and badges and people with ApeCoin badges, you know the deal, Grateful.
I understand.
We didn't hear it anyway.
It's not recorded, please.
Baron left.
Immediately.
He went straight to the anonymous listeners.
Yeah, yeah.
He just DMed Garga in Slack like, holy shit, you know, something's on fire here.
But that's a great idea
and it would be awesome man in other side to have all those wearables on my because it's an NFT related right so I can wear those wearables only on Gs or do you think in the future I will be able
to wear those? We posted a bit of a demo it's It's still, we're stuck at the shoes and the pants.
We still have some intersections with some of the models.
But definitely, yes, especially for the collections that we made,
the models for the full collections, those will be very soon.
So you can buy a jacket from our marketplace.
You can equip it to your gutter caps. You can equip it to your gutter caps.
You can equip it to your grapes.
You can equip it to your Gs, to hopefully a bunch of them.
Not Deleuze because they're fucking ugly.
Deleuze, I don't know how to put a jacket on them, Bowser.
But yeah, no, no.
Even Deleuze, we will hopefully,
it will work on all
avatars that are on the other side.
But there are, I mean
James is a crazy motherfucker and
the team at ApeCol are crazy
people, especially the psychopaths
on the other side. There are
I think 160 plus
collections now
on the other side. So imagine making a jacket fit to 160
different collections with all those different traits. That's crazy, man. Yeah, it will it
be possible like maybe with a ID will in the future will somehow I don't know resize it for
no no, it's it's resizing Now it's resizing to the bones.
But you do have some intersections because of some of the traits on the different collections.
That's where we are.
It's resizing with AI and it's resizing and refitting to the bones of the of the collection.
Oh, that makes sense.
But yeah, sorry.
The thing is, the thing is why we said we're starting with the collections that we made,
because we have the full furs and we have them naked, basically.
So yeah, we'll get there. We'll get there.
At the speed of how AI is going and the speed other side is building,
trust me, I don't think it'll be...
It used to be something we dream of only now.
I think it will probably be a couple of months before
These crazy people will get those things going
Crazy man, crazy
Makavali, go ahead
Yeah, for any collection like Gutter Cat Gangs
Or something like that
That's going to be utilizing the wearables that you guys do
Will they have to use peanuts
Or will they be able to use any other type of currency on the site
To be able to exercise those changes?
For us, our goal is to make it usable with peanuts mainly because that increases the use case for peanuts, which helps our ecosystem.
And at the same time, if you're staking G's, you're getting a portion of those sales.
Any sale we do in peanuts with the wearables will be 50%.
We'll be going back to the staking rewards.
Oh, shit, bro.
That's amazing.
I'm buying BMW, bro.
Where do peanuts?
No, I'm trying.
I mean, our goal is to grow the ecosystem, increase the price of peanuts,
increase the price of G's. And at the same time, the main one is to give back
to the community, to people who trust and who are staking,
and to give them back.
And people have been gaining a lot of peanuts.
People have been getting Gs with their peanuts
that they've gained.
So yeah, so that will be in peanuts.
But I have a feeling we will have to also accept ApeCoin at some point.
Man, I love this.
This is awesome.
And I believe that wearables will be really important because we want to flex, man.
You don't want to flex just with your PFP, right?
But you want to flex with some unique jacket or sneakers or whatever.
And I think that's going to be awesome.
I'm checking just my Gs.
If you go to gsonape.com, gbank.stake,
you can see how much peanuts you earned
and how much peanuts was paid out.
So, yeah, I'm staking 4gs there
so i have like four five hundred peanuts there we had a bit of a dip on the price uh the past couple of days because people uh with the peanuts that they that they gained they transferred to apecoin
and minted the trainers so which is which, which is a plus for, for all the whole ecosystem.
Oh, really? People sold peanuts for trainers?
Yes, they sold the peanuts to ApeCoin so they can mint the trainers.
So even if the price of trainers was a bit high, at least some, the G's had some revenue to use to trade for two intros.
That's dope, man. That's dope, yeah. Rita, you also tweeted about that you've been learning
or experimenting more with vibe coding. I'm saying for Provo.
Bro, I'm a dev now. I'm a fucking dev, bro.
But for AlphaDGN down there, vibe coding.
You know, he always says like wipe coding.
I don't know what kind of accent is that. So vibe coding.
What have you learned, man?
Yeah. So basically I took all the documents, everything that I know,
everything that I can find and gave it to my two club.
and gave it to Claude.
And I told it to build a tool to help people that don't know this stuff,
how to build MML and how to build stuff like that,
and to ease the friction for normal users to just talk in pure language
or normal language or give references, images, and so forth
to generate mml and
mml assets bro so you're basically saying that i can just type hey i want basketball
i want basketball court yes that is correct and it works holy that's crazy it works uh yes not as
as advanced as it should be but I'll get I'll get there
by the time I finish my Ramadan this thing will will actually work perfectly and you will be
able to generate stuff like that by the way I am not a coder I did not use cloud code or cursor
before two weeks I I just learned.
And I think everybody should be doing it.
And I think you're very stupid not to be doing it.
And you think it's scary, but if you're not shy and you actually tell it like you're dumb
and you don't know how to do this stuff
and to show you how to do it,
it will teach you how to do it.
I mean, I've taken screenshots of errors
and stuff like that,
and I've told it what happened, why is it all fucked up, and it actually understood me,
and it actually fits stuff. So if you're not doing it, I think you're leaving generational
knowledge on the table. Go fucking install it, go do it. You don't have to pay anything. Most of
them are free to use in the
beginning once you start using it more it gets more expensive but i think it's fucking worth
every single penny you put in it and you you using open claw or just codex or no i me personally i'm
using a cursor with with the cloud called called extension inside the cursor.
Yeah, makes sense.
Makes sense.
Yeah, it's incredible what you can do with those tools.
And man, I was so scared to set up OpenClaw, but basically every error, I just feed into
the chat GPT and I was like, hey, what should I do?
And step by step, I was able to actually fix it secure it and it works which is absolutely
wild so guys that's the way I know honeybee is not here he's running all over the bank cock but
he's crazy with his open call he's crazy man no no but but in all honest truth I mean if you're
not if you're not using this I don't know what the fuck you're doing um it's it's it's insane uh i still don't
get how people don't don't use this stuff uh my my kids school are telling them not to use ai tools
uh because of plagiarism and stuff like that and at the same time i've gotten them all
subscriptions so they fucking use all the different uh all the different tools as much as they can for their schoolwork.
Yeah. Check out Antigravity by Google.
It's another IDE with built-in AI, and it's really good.
I've been using Cursor for a long time, too, with Cloud.
Definitely check it out.
I'm an Amt. It took me about two weeks to finally get in the groove with Cursor,
so I'm not fucking going to Antigravity anytime soon but this is for the audience for the audience for the audience i did i did download it uh i will
install it because somebody had mentioned that i can actually have them both plugged into the same
uh code base and uh you can get different results from both yeah different llms you know work differently
uh some are very good at some things some are not so good but uh you know good other things and so
on i don't know it's just it's just good uh i think for anybody really looking to get into this
stuff like just try i've been saying this shit forever and so have many other people like you
got people like shout out to uncle mac right who used to work heavily with a seasoned dev regga dev and just dove headfirst into
utilizing ai to start coding and he's built a lot of cool shit shout out to king pickle same thing
these are not people who are natively devs but they very much why not shout out to me motherfucker
hold on hold on well you just shout out to yourself, right?
I'm just saying.
Fuck you, bullies.
No, you don't like me right now, so I don't know.
But no, shout out to everybody trying it, honestly.
It's just crazy to see.
It's crazy to see how many things are coming out of Web3 in the last year
just because of these coding capabilities with coding capabilities with these lms and and
give it another year give it another year bro it's gonna get crazy and yesterday we had a space we
spoke about this if you're if you're a founder of a project and you've been sitting there complaining
and whining but uh oh i don't know what else to give my community, what else to do not. These fucking tools, you can do amazing things for your community.
You can do so much shit.
I was just messing around the other day.
Day before yesterday, I downloaded the template from Ape Church.
And I got some casino games from GitHub.
And I've been making games for Ape Church.
I think I have three or four almost ready.
So if you're not doing this, if you don't want to do this for yourself, do it for your community
as a founder and you can actually make some money for your community. So I mean, if I make a game
on Ape Church, this money will be going to staking rewards. So if you're a founder and you have zero excuses right now.
That's 100% the alpha, man.
By the way, I don't know if it's breaking news or if you knew about it before,
but Nano Banana 2 was introduced, which will be probably much better
than the previous one.
So, man, the space, AI space is moving so fast.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
So I love what you said that if you have project
and I think Hype talked about it yesterday,
if you have projects and you are not using these tools
to actually help your community, you are behind.
And it's a great use case for sure.
Let's say WhatsApp to Gatsby and we slowly drift into the tropical virtual render pool because that MF has been messing around with
MML and all those tools. He's crazy, he's crazy. So get ready guys, read me the space if you want
to see a magic in this space, you know, I can promise that. Gatsby, go ahead, bro.
Yo, GM, GM, everyone. I wanted to add to the conversation. I feel like a broken record here,
but even if you're not a founder, you should start playing around with it and test them all out.
Like test out Cursor, test out Claude, test out Google Antigravity, test out Codex,
all the four, and you'll find which ones are better for what things
as you continue to build cool stuff and actually for grateful you know you just installed um
claude bot well claude just introduced something that basically made claude bot no uh you know not
not yeah bro now you can connect it to whatsapp and now you can continue working with claude
remotely with your phone as well.
And you've got co-worker and a whole bunch of stuff.
It's hard to keep up with everything.
But man, it's literally like Rita said, right?
If you stick with one and start with one, then yeah, just stick with that one and start playing around with that one.
But as you get into it, it's going to incentivize you to start testing the other ones because you're going to see people talking about, claude is better for this and cursor is better for this like for example cursor is very good at smart
contracts compared to claude even though cursor uses but to be honest but to be honest i mean
stuff like this just scares people just use what you're comfortable with yeah and then ask it ask
the whatever model you're using uh what what's the best tool to use for this specific use case.
And it will tell you that it's, ChatGPT will tell you go use QuadCode.
QuadCode will tell you to go use Gemini.
Yeah, no, and I've got, I've got, I've got so many DMs on, hey, how do I start?
And it's like, yo, you just open ChatGPT, have an idea of what you want to build, ask it to create you like a PRD,
OpenChatGPT, have an idea of what you want to build, ask it to create you like a PRD,
product requirements document, and step-by-step guide to feed a system prompt to whichever tool you're using.
And just start reading and completing it.
And like Grateful said, if you get an error, copy and paste that shit into it.
I did that, bro.
I did that.
And it told me to call your wife.
So I don't know what happened there.
She was like an asshole, bro.
I'm always messing with Getsby, but he likes it, so it's all good.
But man, that's the idea you need to...
If she goes to A-fest, she's gonna slap the shit out of you next year, bro.
That's cool, man.
It's gonna be funny
that's for sure
oh for sure
you're such an asshole grateful
yeah that's AI bro
yeah that was that MML
oh shit bro
no he's deep into, I want to say,
you know, he's been cooking, I know that, so, yeah, uh, whew, got hot here, it's like that Nelly's
song, right, uh, damn, uh, okay, okay, so let's quickly say hi to hype, and then we're gonna get
into the, into the, into the tropical virtually, it's so hot in trop, in, yeah, it hi to Hype, and then we're going to get into the tropical virtually.
It's so hot in trop.
Yeah, it's too hot probably, but Hype, how are you doing, man?
Yo, bro, what's up?
You're not bringing me into this conversation as soon as you talk about Gatsby putting something inside of something,
so I'm just going to shut the fuck up.
Oh, shit, it's even worse.
Yeah, bro, just...
You know, you aquamarines, you Tiffany Blue boys.
Always Matt coming in with the one-liners.
Always Matt coming in with the one-liners.
We got to the Aquamarines.
It's got to be a Tangerine, bro.
Got to be a Tangerine.
Tiffany Blue?
I'm always crying.
That's a first with a Tiffany Blue.
I love that.
No, it's not.
Bro, the herpes orange.
It was the best one.
You're a herpes orange. Yeah, bro. You're a herpes orange. You're a herpes orange. Exactly. No. Herpes orange.
Yeah, bro.
You're a herpes orange.
You're a herpes orange.
We come in all shapes, sizes, and colors, bro.
Better than a hemorrhoid teal.
Better than a hemorrhoid teal.
The same teal, bro.
Get your eyes checked.
Anyways, grateful.
Good morning.
That's it.
That's all I got to say, bro.
Good morning, legend. Guys, I got a I gotta say, bro. Good morning legend guys
I got a DM from gets beat anyone speak Spanish. It says
I don't understand
It's probably
Think that means I love you. Does a comment right here if you like orange or teal
Comment down below.
It means best friend.
It means best friend.
You're fine.
Put the comment down below.
Everybody's going to get banned typing.
Oh my God.
But I can't forget one thing, guys.
I met a...
It's a long time ago.
I met a guy from Japan and and he told me uh like two
three sentences because i was going to japan like you know it was before google translate so it's
long time ago so i went to japan and like first person it was a girl who i saw i tried to impress
her so i told her i told her to, three sentences and the face that
she gave me, I've never seen anything
in my life like that so I'm really careful
with all of you MFs here, you know
especially Gatsby with his
Spanish. Oh yeah, I see bro
but it's funny though because I lived in Singapore for
three years as well growing up and the
only things I learned in Mandarin were all
insults so I think that's a
commonality for everyone.
Well, they speak fucking, they speak Mandarin in Singapore, bro.
Yeah, man. Singaporeans are.
Be careful.
Hype knows.
Interesting.
I mean, obviously it's super international, so it's mostly English, but yeah.
And native tongue is Mandarin.
What about this thing in Bangkok? what are they speaking bangkok dick
thailandese i guess
hard hard left okay i do not know how i was added here. I must have been added by a party
Now that's honeybees fault guys, let's blame honeybee for that
Also, no pun intended when I said hard left. I will clarify that
Fucking open call I let him actually host the space
and it's terrible.
That AI is so bad.
But guys, we need to get back into the MMLs
because that's why we're here.
I think we all want to cook
in the other side, right?
I know Rita, he's been cooking for so long.
I saw things
that I can't share with you,
but they were amazing.
So I really hope I'll see them live
in the other side someday.
Right, Ria?
Yes, yes, yes.
Right, right. You're right. Always right.
But let's go to Tropical before
this conversation gets even weirder.
I know. And we are gonna get
canceled, banned by Nikita, and it's gonna
be over, bro. Rida, you already started
your new account like a few years ago, right?
From zero, and I don't want to do that.
Tropical, you are the other side legend.
I absolutely love your bubbles.
It's always dope to see them.
um maybe could you give us short intro what you've been building and also uh if you want
Maybe could you give us a short intro of what you've been building?
pin up the tweet or i i go there and and pin up the tweets from the comments guys if you go to the
comments you see a lot of work uh from tropical it's really cool but maybe a little intro uh
you know i never heard your story how you end up here it doesn't have to be like a two-hour movie right like just
like you know well when i was a small child i uh i was so good no no hey i appreciate man coming up
and and hanging out with everybody here a lot of great people up on the stage doing really cool
shit so i'm super grateful to be around just people being super productive and you know that's
what i'm always looking for so it's cool uh but yeah very quickly man uh i just entered the nft space as like a you
know back in the day a 101 artist you know what i mean i don't even know if that thing exists anymore
but you know like super rare rareable i was first minting on rareable and that went live that was
crazy uh really fun but then i got accepted to super rare and i started minting you know one-on-one pieces of art like 3d renders and stuff i was doing working
like cinema 4d using like octane render doing all these like realistic cyberpunk scenes and all that
i just love like really detailed environments so i was just hitting that up and bro i sold
some art dog i was like oh like i can make a living here you know so uh you know obviously
this is COVID time.
So everybody was looking for something
and I started finding a little piece of something
in this space.
And from there, I found out about the sandbox
and then people were talking about the metaverse
and that started being a buzzword.
And very quickly, when I first learned 3D,
I was actually trying to learn game development.
That was my whole goal. But, you know, I somehow got, you know, spawned into the United
States of America where school is very expensive. And so I never finished school for game dev. I
took like one semester, learned a little bit, and then I just taught everything myself, man, just
at home, YouTube Academy, Academy you know I'm saying
uh reading articles talking to people meeting people and just learned about game dev but
quickly you know without education I had to do design you know I'm saying so I was doing like
meeting people online doing like album artwork I worked on music videos I did VR uh music videos
too so these really cool like VR 360 music videos. One of the cool
ones I made was for a band called Magdalena Bay. They're from California. They're a duo,
amazing musicians. I also did a VR 360 video for Matt Watson, who's a YouTuber. He kind of does
funny skits and comedy stuff. So he's pretty big on YouTube. But from there, all that stuff, you know, just kind of
pushed me into the NFT scene of just like doing design work. And that's when I found myself doing
design work for like NFT brands and stuff, like in the early days. And I remember doing an ad for
like a crypto coin back in the day. I was like, you know, it wasn't shady at the time. And there
was only so many coins, you know, so early. But from there, I found out about Sandbox, right?
And I thought, man, like, here's an opportunity to get back into game dev and this metaverse idea.
And so I went all in, man.
I just, like, started doing building, like, environments.
I started doing the game jams.
I built my own minigame by myself.
Got, you know, some good recognition there.
And suddenly, this somebody knocked on my door,
essentially, on my digital door and said, hey, I'm looking for a game dev. I have an interesting
project. And I was like, okay. I was like, is this a scam or something? But quickly it started
looking very real. I started meeting with them and it became a real thing. It was like they had
a team of artists and they just needed someone to be a lead and whip everybody into shape.
And so, you know, I was like, OK, I'll come in and help.
What you got going?
And this dude managed to get the attention of Garga and Gordon back in the day.
and they wanted his team to build out the Miami 2035 experience on Sandbox,
which was one of the original roadmap goals, you know what I'm saying?
Like on the old school roadmap, the goal was a metaverse,
and it was a metaverse in Sandbox.
And so I was like, dude, I'm in.
I'll be honest, I did not own an ape at the time.
They had already launched, they had did their thing.
And so I told myself, okay, well, if I'm going to get this gig I did not own an ape at the time. They had already launched. They had did their thing.
And so I told myself, okay, well, if I'm going to get this gig building for the Bored Apes,
you know, this early and stuff, then I better buy an ape and become part of the community. I didn't want to build a metaverse for a community and not know what the hell is going on.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was like, all right, I'll buy an ape.
So I jumped in, bought an ape.
I immediately was like
3D glasses yep 3D artist so that makes sense uh yeah man then like the rest is history like
got close to Yuga was able to meet with Garga and Gordon before they were doxxed and everything so
I was like in video meetings with them once a week you know I'm saying it was intense dude
I just I sped ran through game developments in like becoming a, like a creative lead and a game lead.
So like I was doing like mission designs.
I did all the narrative.
I created all the mission structure.
I did all the logic inside of Sandbox.
I took care of like all the level design,
environment design, the planning.
I drew maps out.
I managed about 15 different artists for
that team, building all the assets. So I do a lot of concept art and just basically having one-on-ones
with 15 different artists to build up the Miami 2035 experience on Sandbox. And I guess ever
since then, Yuga has been so cool with me because, well, I delivered a game. So they were like,
all right. And then they, you know, time
went by and then that's when they knocked on my door again. And then I met with Rita, I met with
Bailey in a meeting and suddenly the ODK, I was like, what the hell is this? And there we were
like some, a couple of dummies trying to figure out what this is all about. You know, us three
just scratching our heads, trying to figure out what the hell's going on here and we were just so impressed dude like i immediately dropped all other metaverses i was
like later goodbye you know i tried them all man you know i built in like nifty decentraland you
know all this stuff but dude the tools the the tech you know i'm saying in odk using unreal
engine like i could go back to my
traditional game development pipeline that I started with. And like, it just felt like I was
really making games now. Like it wasn't some like, oh, you're inside of this app and there's all
these drag and drop stuff and you have to kind of stay within these boundaries. No, no, no. This is
like, you're in Unreal Engine, you're modeling 3d assets you know i'm saying the same
thing applies here like an actual game dev studio and i knew from the start dude this this was it
like i'm i'm i'm planning my feet here and i'm going to start building um but yeah that's
essentially the journey was just like you know trying to get into game dev ended up doing design
work for many years and now i'm kind of back to game development.
And dude, I can't complain, bro.
I'm having the time of my life here.
Made friends with Machiavelli, Honey, Hype, G-Spot, the other games team.
They've been so kind to me, bringing me into their team, asking me to build an environment for them, which we are doing.
It ended up being a lot bigger than... We have some alpha here. I didn't know that you're building the environment for them. I'm doing you know it ended up being a lot bigger than we have some alpha here i
didn't know that you're building the environment for them i'm not gonna say anything i'm not gonna
say anything but it is known it is i want to tell you guys everything but i can't no no no
but uh it's it's uh it's been nice man it's it's it ended up being uh pretty big but it's going to be good. It's going to be nice.
It's put together by a small team. You know what I mean? This is very scrappy startup. You know
what I'm saying? This is like just us putting our heads together, trying to do something fun.
I think everybody will enjoy it. It's going to be a good time. It's going to be a build put out by
community members, small team, and just doing it for the
love and the passion to bring more experiences to our community. So, you know, they inspire me,
you know, what they do, like, you know, what they do when they do their games and stuff. Like,
it's why I do it. You know what I mean? Like, you can ask Mac, like, months ago, bro, I approached
him. I was like, dude, like, what y'all are doing is insane. Don't stop,
please like keep going. Let me know how I can help. And let's talk about a new world or something.
And, you know, the word has been true. You know, we're still picking at it. Like I said, it's ended up pretty big. So it's, it's taken me some time, but you know, I think it'll be worth
it in the end. And yeah, yeah. Anyways. Yeah. That's kind of kind of how where we're at now uh and uh you know i'm
just still pushing on odk you know i still got my own personal ideas but i'm really looking forward
to getting this thing out with other games um i know i've got more news like the render pool hotel
which i'll go into as well and stuff but uh anyways i could stop yapping if you want to
cut it and say oh what a great. I didn't know that about you.
So I absolutely love that I asked.
And man, I didn't know that you designed that sandbox experience,
which is wild. And I think it's...
It had to be like summer 21 or something like that. I don't even know.
Yeah, yeah. Around that time.
Wild. Makavelli, go ahead, man.
You also did, like not to jump ahead or
anything but you also did the mlb experience correct what no no no no no no no i didn't do
that i took you an artist as part of that or something i i was asked to make a walkthrough
video so i spoke with some improbable team members and stuff and and i was you know like as you can
tell i do a lot of walkthroughs tutorials um i don't call myself really a tutorial guy you know it's i'm i don't keep it up like that
but um when something really moves me and i really like it i will i will talk about it and share it
um so at the time improbable created the mlb experience and they invited me to be like to be
an ape and be there you know i'm saying like they wanted apes to show up and hang out.
So of course, right.
I was like, hell yeah, I'm going to be here.
And, you know, I don't know a lot about baseball.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, apes were there.
You know, I saw some other apes hanging out.
It was an awesome time.
I don't watch much baseball anymore, but I did play a lot.
And I did watch it a lot growing up.
So I have a soft spot for baseball.
You know, it's a great sport. I love playing it too. So did watch it a lot growing up. So I have a soft spot for baseball.
You know, it's a great sport.
I love playing it too.
So yeah, it was great experience,
but I basically just did coverage of it and made a video walkthrough talking about the experience,
the collectible cards.
It was like baseball cards you could collect around the park.
You collect the whole series.
You know, you could explore, watch the game in real time.
Literally the players would move like
synchronize with the real game so there's virtual players on the field like they i don't know how
they did it there was cameras there or something they set it all up but you could see the ball
fly into the you know over the field it was insane man super impressive technology from improbable
yo i remember grateful whenever i saw it when i I met Tropical, I was like, wait a minute,
aren't you the ape from the MLB?
That's the first thing I told him.
Like, that's how I knew his ape was that it was in that MLB
shot and stuff.
Whenever I met him, I was like, wait a minute.
And I looked at the ape, I was like,
and he's like, yeah, yeah.
That's so sorry to get the confusion,
but that was like, that was one of our first conversations.
Cause like, like you just remember some IPs,
you just remember some characters and stuff like that.
And like, that's how I remembered Trop tropicals ape was from the MLB experience yeah yeah yeah man I was definitely
right behind the the home plate the whole time I was like making sure uh uh you know getting the uh
the uh the camera and put my face up there and stuff. But I just want to say something because I talked
about this the other day, but I, I, for my history with Yuga and like building stuff with them and
stuff. If you go to the swamp and you go just past the clubhouse, there's a, there's a little
small kind of collection of, of a little like houses, right? Little Brown kind of like little
swamp houses. If you climb up the houses, you? Little brown kind of like little swamp houses.
If you climb up the houses, you know,
there's a bunch of them all connected.
One of the ones at the top of this little hill,
if you go there, there's a sign outside
and that sign says low belly school for mischievous apes.
That sign that's in there in the swamp right now
on the other side,
that was something I designed for the sandbox experience.
So back in 21, when we built up the BAYC city, Miami 2035,
the idea was to build small structures for each community member.
So there was people like Spend.
We built a recording studio for Spend in the sandbox world.
There was Lowbelly.
We built a school for her.
And so she was an art teacher built a school for her and so she
was an art teacher at one point of her life she did some new style of art uh well he was doing
like a podcasting you know discussion talking and so we did a sort of recording studio for him
um there was sarah star girl we built a star girl salon inside of the sandbox experience you know so
it was like a salon you know for hair styling and all that good stuff. There was herb. I remember herb. We made a smoke
shop for herb. And so there was like a weed shop in there. And there was a couple of apes
sitting in a circle smoking a bong. So it was really funny. In the sandbox, like box
of characters just ripping weed. It was just it's we i basically did research on each community
member and from there all the research that i did and what i learned about them i surprised them
with their own buildings inside of the sandbox and for some reason uh low belly school for mischief
is apes that one just kind of carried on and so now if you go into the swamp right now and you
look at those little structures those buildings one of them has a sign out there and i'm on my way right now to take a picture with it check please check it out
and that design somebody rebuilt it right like now it's a full 3d asset but the initial design
is something i created and i had one of my artists build it in voxel format so they took the voxel
format and basically just made it into an actual 3D asset, like
a little more realistic. But yeah, just wanted to call it out there. I don't think many people
know. I don't really talk about it too much. I feel like I need to write an article about
I know, man. You should do some storytelling, you know, like a storytelling bubble with
Machiavelli. Like you can write it down. Machiavelli has a voice of an angel, so he can read it maybe.
That would be dope, bro,
because I didn't know it.
Yeah, in the world.
Yeah, I'm just,
I don't like to talk,
like, or post, you know,
too confidently, I guess.
I don't know.
But it's something that happened.
I'm appreciative of it.
It's gotten me where I am today.
I just keep
it chill you know i'm saying i'm not trying to toot my own horn too much but i i guess i'm trying
to talk about more of my history these days i guess just to do it um but i think there could
be something to learn from it too like i have like maps that are drawn out like overhead layouts for
the sandbox world like concept art you know thoughts and you know
uh you know just all kinds of things that i've saved i have a folder for the sandbox project
and that thing is like i don't even know like over 100 gigs or something of just like information
pictures videos uh walkthroughs um i still have it saved so uh i should probably put something
together one day if I find the energy.
Holy smoke, bro. That was incredible. I'm really happy that I learned more about you because this is awesome.
And let me quickly say hi to new people here on stage.
And my follow-up question for you will be, of course, about MML and ODK.
So how can people actually get the ODK and start building with MML?
If you yeah, I wrote down the question so I can repeat it after I say hi to
to other people here on stage, but that's gonna be the follow up. And let's start with Squiddy, uh the ap apink game show aka the gaper three million episodes bro absolutely crazy how you
doing man what's good with you bro i i did not know this about tropical man we've been following
each other for for some time and this is uh this is great stuff always know I'm getting some new information here on my favorite space on X
the grateful show which does not have enough bookmarks only eight bookmarks bookmark the show
support your hosts I see a bunch of friends up here I see my co-host is going to be talking
in a bit here see who so yeah dude, Tropical
this is awesome stuff man, it's great to hear
a little bit more about your
background and just doing what
I do on a Thursday, coming to hang out on
the Grateful Show
here to support, here to show some love
and here to fist
Let's go man
Squiddy is such a legend
also we are having basketball space tomorrow, guys.
And I also want to tell you something about my background.
It's beautiful.
It's aquamarine.
I'm at first.
Not everyone has that one.
You know, Showbiz.
Oh, Alpha DJ.
Oh, my God, guys.
Sibu, welcome here, Legend. We're going to be talking soon.
Yeah, we are a little late, of course, right?
So it happens, it happens. But how you doing, man?
Yo, yo, yo. I'm good, I'm good. How are you, man?
Happy belated anniversary, man.
Four years, that's like a whole crypto cycle.
You made it.
That's true.
You survived.
We did it.
It's absolutely crazy, man.
I did those stats and we spent, or I spent behind the mic, 34 days.
Like 34 days.
That's insane.
Squiddy, I think we can't even do or get such stats, right? With like 3 million shows. It's 34 days. That's insane. Squiddy, I think we can't even do or get such stats, right?
With like 3 million shows.
It's 34 years.
34 years for you guys.
I think it's more like in the millions, but okay.
Yeah, it's crazy.
But we got to be talking with Sivu about the 8102 game,
or if you want to, How do you call it game? Is it
8102, 8102,
8102, I don't know, man.
It's complicated,
but the 8102.
Let's go. That's the
alpha. And also I have to say hi to
Uncle Mac, the legend here
with beautiful gold background.
GM grateful. It's ginger.
We're going with ginger. We're sticking with the ginger,
remember? It's not orange, it's not gold.
I tried to upgrade it a little bit.
Thanks. No, no, downgrade it, downgrade it.
I'm the red-headed child, remember? We go, I'm even
worse than orange, that's where we're at. Ginger, it's even
worse. Nobody likes it.
Well, thanks for working.
Happy to have you here, bro.
I'm really really enjoying
Tropical's voice
I've not heard Tropical's voice before
incredible voice
it's crazy right
I'm picturing full American
stereotype surfer dude
and like I don't know
what Tropical looks like but that's what I'm seeing
I had like uh thousands
of meetings with him um and uh i i finally met him at eight fest motherfucker this short guy
comes to me this short uh latino looking guy comes to me like yo what's up i'm like who the
fuck are you and he's like i'm tropical what the fuck this is not what i was mad doing bro
please please don't ruin the image for me.
He stepped on me on accident.
He's as tall as Honey B, though.
Bro, that's how I met Frosties.
But that MF-er was, you know, huge as f**k.
I was like, you've Frosties, bro?
Like, damn, you a tall MF-er.
So, yeah, and Sivu, he's like 7.75, so he's crazy.
He's crazy at all.
He's like, they called him Wemby of Web3, so that's all I can say here.
And Tropical, let's get into that ODK and MML.
So first think, how can we get ODK?
How can I start messing around in the other side?
Is it possible? Is it open for everyone right now?
So at the moment, the ODK is kind of gated a little bit
for game devs who are trying to build something in Unreal.
But I know that's not what you want to hear,
but please don't let that deter you
because the MML public world is coming soon.
And I'm going to be honest with you,
this is going to be way more accessible for you.
Like, here's the truth of it, man.
I know everyone wants ODK access.
It's seen as a symbol of status in this space.
I mean, I'm just going to be completely honest with you.
The way people want it, the way people want to say that they're a part of the ODK, I get it.
I really, really do.
But if you open the ODK and you look at it,
it's a freaking rocket engine.
It's Unreal Engine.
It's a game software.
It's a game engine.
So if you're not comfortable already with blueprints, right?
Logic and scripting in that format with blueprints in Unreal,
you're going to have a harder time
working with this setup of the ODK
because the ODK has its own Blueprint setup
and you have to work within those parameters, right?
You can't really deviate away from it.
You have to blend with it.
You have to merge with it and speak the same language.
But again, if you know Blueprints already,
then hey, no problem, go right ahead.
So what I would do is if you're already working in unreal and you
understand the logic behind blueprints show that show that work post it online show people your
small projects your big whatever whatever scale you're working at doesn't really matter i've seen
someone by themselves ask me hey how do i get an odk and i said well if you work with unreal show
some work on on you know on the on the Tag people, let them know that you're working on something.
Dude, within a week, they started building this random little generative thing.
They got access to the ODK.
And I know people say, I've been asking for a long time.
But it's like, really, truly, man, unless you're already comfortable with this stuff,
you're going to be there for a while scratching your head.
But this public MML world thing, way more accessible.
The vibe coding thing, way more accessible.
I posted a video to the chat here.
So it's like a little walkthrough for the MML and vibe coding and stuff.
It's very simple I
didn't do anything crazy I just did some rotating cubes but it was just to show that you can generate
objects you can generate animations the collisions work properly you can jump on those cubes as if
they were platforms and they're rotating and you could fall off of them like just with a simple rotating cue very quickly where are you getting access to
this vibe coding part of it so the uh there's a link to the public uh mml world right now so like
they kind of i don't know did some people didn't get the email like i missed something and i had
to talk to pm so i definitely didn't get an email no no, no, but what Tropical is saying, if you don't know, if you know Unreal Engine and you've done blueprints on Unreal Engine,
then just post what you can do and tag other sites, tag PM, tag Tropical.
Even Tropical, if he retweets it, it'll be seen.
May I have a question?
If you don't know Unreal Engine, you're going to be lost in ODT like Tropical.
That's actually pre-Unreal Engine experience counts because I was a dev behind the Unreal and Unreal Tournament, so...
Too early.
No, no, you're not allowed in all cases.
Oh, that's true.
I did see grateful on the blacklist.
Sorry, bro.
That list is getting bigger by the day too.
So it just keeps on adding grateful.
It's like top 10 are grateful because he wants to win on everything.
He even like competed on the blacklist. Honestly, I think they're scared of grateful that he wants to win on everything. He even competed on the blacklist.
Honestly, I think they're scared of grateful
that he's going to make something even better.
So I think that's why they're not letting him in.
Oh, I'm building a game.
It's on a blockchain and it's with apes.
You know, I just got the idea in 2022 and it's awesome.
Yeah, now you can apply for gdk grateful development kit
the gdk that's good that's now it's a g's development kit but yeah
but yeah man mml world is is coming soon to everybody so this is on it's it's we're on the
brink of it coming out for everyone access
and like rita was saying earlier these vibe coding tools are already a thing right this isn't
something special tied to uh you know other side odk you know we're using cursor you could use a
different ide um or you know kind of like environments that an ai kind of exist in and so
you could attach it to different agents.
So you could have your IDE, which is like cursors, what I'm using.
You could attach, you know, GPT and Claude or, you know, like whatever, anthropic stuff,
you know, you could attach whatever agent you want.
So you could speak to it and have it kind of do your thing in a chat, right?
That's what cursor is doing.
It's like discord for ai but or like gravity
anti-gravity is even better for 3gs and 3d stuff so maybe we'll go to anti-gravity as well not
cursor there you go yeah so and also man this is so early that you know just like rito was saying
there's probably better ides out there you know that'll probably be smoother but
also depends on your workflow right it depends what you're doing so this is really really open
ended um but yes you could open up cursor type in you know create a cube rotating on its x-axis
you know uh using mml metaverse markup language. It thinks for a bit.
It gives you a line of code in MML,
which is the code language we're using here
for this public world.
You copy that, go over to your other site,
MML's page and the MML editor, have those open.
You could drop it in the editor, your code.
The shape generates in front of you
on this like 3D viewport,
kind of looks like blender
or something so mml editor is like our workspace right so we we have um you know like a normal
game dev right so you work in blender you model your objects and then you throw them into the game
engine same thing mml editor is your blender mMO editor is your workspace where you're setting stuff up.
So you drop in the code as well in there and it'll generate the objects.
Or you could work from the other way around.
You could grab objects from the left side of the screen.
There's like boxes with objects, spheres, you know, cubes, whatever.
Drag that into your 3D viewport, the objects appear.
Or you could just go straight to the code panel
and just type in M cube,
like a little string of code for the shape,
and it would just magically appear in the editor.
So everything is code-based, which is so interesting
because again, you don't have to 3D model,
you don't have to assemble the assets, really.
You could be quick about it, right?
Like if you know how to move in a 3D space, then fine.
You could probably set up objects faster, like, you know, put a platform down.
Maybe there's a wall and a doorway.
You could do that.
Or you could go to your IDE, tell it in there, VibeCode, say, hey, I want a room.
You know, it should be, you know, 10 meters by 10 meters or something.
There should be, you know be four walls, whatever.
The walls are blue, the ground is red, whatever. And it'll set that all up for you. You take the
code, drop it into the MML editor. It populates the viewport, the 3D viewport. Then you hit publish.
You can publish that object and it saves it to a server, right? And you can take that line
of code. Right now, that object you build is just a single link, an MML link. It's crazy, right? So
you did all this work and it turns it into this link that you can copy, put it into the other
side MML's page, which everyone will become familiar with when you see the video.
And that page is so cool
because it's like you're building an MML inventory,
like quite literally for your character and your account.
So you go there, drop the link, give it a name,
say, oh, this is my rotating cube.
Here's the link to it.
Save it, add it to your inventory.
Then you jump in game right into this public world.
You hit the M key to bring up the MML inventory and boom, there's your object, your rotating cube
or your rocket ship, whatever you want to build. And you just click on it and just click anywhere
in the screen and it puts the object right in front of you. So it's that simple, to be honest.
But the tricky part here is just making something interesting
making something that's fun i don't know that's going to be up to you that's your job
like i don't know you're gonna have to figure that out how to make an interesting experience
or or something that's worthwhile and fun but that's the gist of it um if you check out the
video i basically walk through that whole process i explain everything first what everything is
and then i do like a walk through of actually making something very simple. So you could see what
it's like. I'm not paying for anything. I did that all with the free tools. You know what I'm saying?
Just so you know that it's not gated, right? You can just get this stuff, the IDE, you know,
and the links to everything else. Once things go live, you'll have access and you could do whatever
you want. And it'll be public. You put something down, someone else will be able to see it and like,
you know, walk around it, interact with it, stuff like that.
I cannot wait, man. And I definitely, guys, check the tutorial. It's in the comments. I will pin it up.
And where do you see near future with these tools?
I've been playing around with Fortnite and checking what they are doing,
how it works, you know, with other games.
Other games, I don't mean other games,
it's Machiavelli, but you know,
other games that you can play and try.
Where do you see near future
and these tools for us DGens?
Also, there are a lot of people that
maybe you know how to use the tool,
but it's still not guaranteed that you will create cool experience, right?
So where do you think this is heading
and how we can actually get ready
or be prepared to create something really dope to get edge?
Yeah, that's a great question, man.
I think the interesting edge that we have here
in this space is passionate community members
that want to be involved and be a part of it.
And not everyone here is a 3D artist or a game dev,
but what I find interesting about the tools,
like the tools that we have here right with mml
and stuff and this public world coming up what i find interesting is the accessibility right so
even with fortnite right they have their own thing uefn right the unreal engine fortnite editor
but the thing with that is you still gotta kind of know right like you still have to kind of know with unreal yeah yeah it's it's it's
definitely a little more streamlined in a way but i mean it's still unreal right you're still having
to build in a certain way so right there that's a barrier not everyone's gonna be able to do that
same issue with odk right it's it's it's it's a thing it's it's it's a you. It's a big engine with lots of tools and lots of possibilities, of course,
but that's the beautiful part, but it's a little difficult to get into. But with this MML thing,
I'm really curious where it's going to go because I wouldn't be surprised, I'll be honest with you,
if Yugo puts a little more attention into this public world for a little while like i see
odk as this kind of long-term thing because you can make great great games with odk like if you
know what you're doing and you're you're giving it your best dude you can make some high quality
games i mean look at the intro to the other side you know running through that environment and the
boarding yacht club house like flies off and i mean the
graphics the the fidelity everything looks awesome but again there's a barrier because of the
technicalities but this vibe coding thing i think is something that has an edge uh you know for us
because other experiences aren't really to that level yet of like providing the sort of vibe
coding possibility. Like you
could vibe code in other game engines in Unity and whatever, I guess. But again, you got to know
more about it. And in this instance, you know, you don't really have to know. With the public
world art just available for us, the world is online already. You don't have to worry about
any of the networking, you networking, all that background stuff,
nothing, bro. The world runs and it's running right now for a select few, but it's about to
open up. So what I would do is just learn about the IDEs, cursor and stuff, maybe research some
AIs that you could get comfortable with, like agents and stuff. But that's what I would do.
And I feel like it's pretty close.
I don't know personally when it's going to go live.
But I see an edge with this MML thing.
And I find it very interesting where it's about to go.
I know back in the day, even probably before Apechain,
like every ape knew that if other side is coming
to the form that we see right now,
the projects need to have avatars, right?
We have it right now, I think.
We see 3D avatars, it makes so much sense.
You have like your PFP identity here on Twitter,
then you have a 3D avatar in the other side
and other metaverses that will be there
That makes so much sense. I think the next
step that everyone
thinking about is having
your own space
in the other side, right?
And having own experiences
for your holders or it doesn't
have to even be a project. You can be like
individual that want to hang out with friends.
So how far do you think we are from building our and publishing our own experiences
in the other side for our communities?
Well, I'm glad you asked that because I might have a project that will allow you
to do that very soon, The Renderpool Hotel.
So that was the purpose behind it.
You know, I'll be honest with you.
I think I was getting a little impatient and maybe even frustrated
that people want access to ODK and we're not getting it.
You know, I'm not saying I'm angry at anybody,
but it's just these things take time.
And it's hard to understand that sometimes from an outside perspective and i gotta tell you i think the most the question i get asked the most in
private dms is yo bro how can i get odk i i love it thank you keep asking me because that lets me
know you're interested and i'll never knock it i will always give a response i will always give
you a constructive response for your level or where need to know, right? What do you do? Have you touched
Unreal before and you're asking me this? It's time to get to work, dog. You know what I'm saying?
You know, got to put in the work. Join the RenderPool Discord. Hang out with us. We're
working in ODK, Unreal Engine, Unity. You know, Hypha was in the chat. He does a lot of great stuff in Unity,
building games and stuff.
He does amazing vibe coding stuff too,
so shout out to them.
But yeah, man, that's a question I get asked a lot.
But so me and my homie MD Codes,
so please look him up, MD Codes.
Amazing, amazing programmer,
amazing just dude in general, awesome guy. And we came
up with this idea and Hypo was in on it too. He suggested the Nakagin capsule tower in Japan
because I was already sort of thinking, well, let's do a public build, right? Like a single
world. And I had joined some giveaway with Frosties and Peanut and stuff, the Coda with like the show.
And I won another deed. I'm like,
holy shit. I wasn't really trying. I just showed up and took part in it randomly. I felt like I
never win anything. And so I won another deed, but I didn't want to selfishly hoard it. I told
myself, you know what? I have the render pool community. They all want to build and learn.
So I was like, you know what? I'm going to dedicate this deed that I want to everybody here. If you're showing up to the render pool, let's build this
world together. So I started streaming in the discord of just me building in Unreal. And the
idea came about when Haifa said something like, oh, like you're trying to get everyone to build
little areas. Like maybe you could do like this like tower of rooms. And then MD just like, you
know, fire just lit under his butt and he just took
off, bro. He came up with like this plan of like, you know, these rooms. And I was like,
let's make a hotel. And the idea just came to be. So the idea here is we're using MML
and we've created a special website. So it's the renderpool.com. It feels so good to say that. It's
kind of nice. I never thought I'd have a website for this, but the renderport.com, it lays out all the details.
Essentially, you can work in Blender.
We have a template that you can download.
It's a 12 by 12 meter space with walls, right?
Sectional walls.
You could do anything you want in this room.
You do the work of setting it all up, right?
But you have to stay within 12 by 12 meters.
So you build your room the way you want,
color it, texture it, add whatever objects.
I had a little cat tree in mind and all this stuff.
But you go to the website, you upload your room as a GLB.
So you export it out of Blender as a single GLB file,
upload it to this portal on the website,
and we have this super cool 3D viewport
that will populate your room into that
viewport and you can click around, spin the room around, look at it, you know what I'm saying?
Super cool stuff. But the neat part, the amazing part is MD Codes created the site to where every
time you upload a room, it compresses it down to that MML link, right? So same thing, like I said,
with the Vibe code, right? You go to the MML editor, you drop in your asset,
then you export it as a link, right?
An MML link.
Well, we do the same thing here with our website.
But in the ODK, I have this special custom blueprints
that MD codes put together.
And I drop in this gray box
that's the same size of the room.
I go into the details panel, drop in the mml link in this like
url little spot and when i hit play on the game it magically replaces the gray box with the room that
you designed so we'll populate each box with everybody's room and all of a sudden we got a
custom hotel where everybody has their own bedroom and i don't have to do anything which is which is
awesome it'd be too much work i couldn't have to do anything which is which is awesome
it'd be too much work i couldn't handle it bro that many rooms and trying to design them all
together for everybody hell no that's too much work i'm gonna be honest with you but so this
case all i have to do is put boxes you know in there like on a grid and build them up like a
hotel or whatever and each room will have a custom link that you built right on our website. And what's
the cool part is you could go back to the website and update that room anytime you want. So it's an
always evolving thing. It's always changing, updating, depending on the creator. And you
can do anything you want. So if you want to get involved with that, join the RenderPool Discord.
There's a channel there specifically made for it. Go to thereenderpool.com, look at the details,
download the template.
I'll be streaming live in the Discord this Tuesday,
2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time,
and going through the whole process.
You know, I'll download the template.
I'll show you how the walls work.
I'll make sure you're on a grid
so you can stay within the 12 by 12 meters,
and you could upload your own room.
And so the ODK is a bit of a long-term thing we
would love to have our own custom game world on odk where it's just kind of like have a hotel
the sims you know you build your little room on the website and then you go into the game and you
can show all your friends and hang out right and uh using mml you could do like animated objects
right now md codes is sort of researching a bit of like interactable objects in the world.
We're thinking about video streaming
and all these possibilities of, you know,
so maybe you could jump in your hotel room,
do an M video MML code and stream like some footage
on the TV in your room.
And you could do that in our game.
But for now though, that is a long-term goal.
Short-term goal is to get these
rooms in the public MML world as well. So this public world that's coming up, you just might be
able to load in your own personal room. You know what I'm saying? And you could do it in Blender
and export as a single object, a GOB, and just get in there as one chunk, right? One single object
that we can place it wherever you want, or we could work together and build a hotel.
Maybe amass all of them with like an M frame.
There's an M frame MMO code, like line of code
that lets you put objects together
in a sort of grid and stuff.
So we're looking at an M frame as well
to kind of get all of our rooms together
so we can create a single structure
that'll be, you know, explorable for everybody. So that's my offer to you, to everybody who wants to get a little closer to game development,
world building, asset creation, working in Blender, working with MML, vibe coding, you know,
I'll take AI meshes and objects and models, but I'm going to ask you to run them through Blender
and clean them up. So come to me and I'll help you clean all the AI meshes up,
because they do export a little crazy sometimes.
But there it is, right?
There's a chance to build your own little spot on the other side.
And I'm giving you the opportunity to do that with us.
So yeah, look that up, please.
That's the alpha, man.
That's what I have to do.
And I know Sivo is so ready to share about a game he's been building.
But, man, we can't stop talking about other side, man.
We can't stop.
We can't stop.
So, Sivo, get ready because we got to ask you about other side, what you've been cooking for that, you know, 3D objects.
We got to have a little quiz.
We got to have tests for you.
You know, so Pickle Virtual will be like, hey, you know, Blender, this, that, you know blender this that you know answer come on three two one go but i think this is the alpha and the most important thing is
that i talked to my friend and he was like man i need to find someone for for ai you know to to
do it for me and i think it's not the best approach because the feedback loop is too long you know you need to talk to human to do
something in it with ai and then he he shared with you and the same goes with building uh in
metaverse on in other side if you learn how to do those objects at least you know they don't have to
be perfect but you can play with it and you can figure out things how you want to use it how you
want to build it uh the the final build doesn't have to be done by you, right?
But you get the idea, and that's what's most important,
and that's why I love all these tools,
that even for spaces, it's incredible.
You can transcript the space, you can get quotes and everything.
AI is wild, and for other side, it's great.
So guys, definitely click on tropical
profile click
on Rita everyone here on stage give them a
follow check what they've been doing
it's a free alpha right
you are in this community a spouser
shared here because of BAYC got
a job with BMW that MFR you know
and he got to get a brand new
M4 probably I got to steal it from him but he got to get a brand new M4 probably.
I got to steal it from him, but he got to probably get an M4, which is crazy.
So 100% do that.
I will, I will go to the, I will join your discord.
I have to get into this.
You know, there are so many things.
My probably biggest problem is that there are so many things to do that you can do everything
and nothing at the same time, right?
That's my biggest problem.
Yeah, but it's great, man.
That's how my life feels right now.
I know. You can do everything but nothing
at the same goddamn time. I know.
It's crazy, bro.
Yeah. It's like
doing bench press and leg press at the same same time bro. That's how it feels probably
If you go to the gym
I've been listening in this whole fucking time. I could have waited to jump back up here bro. What the hell tropical?
First of all join the discord
Download the assets realize you also have an asset for the ODK.
So anyone who has access to the ODK can actually start directly inside the ODK with these assets.
Really fucking cool.
Yeah, we made the custom MML blueprint available.
I just wanted to add that.
Yes, we made the custom MML blueprint that we made available as well.
So if any creators want to try to do something similar, they can.
Yeah, this is is gonna be cool this
gonna be really cool yeah guys we have to be like a group of mfers that go and build because we need
to figure out what works the best and bring the normies and if you have your own game do you know
how much easier it's gonna be like you have your experience and you'll be on youtube streaming and
you'll be like hey here's the link join come. You don't need any fucking crypto wallet or whatever.
Just sign up with your email, get in.
We will have fun and bring your friends.
That's it.
That's the way.
That's going to be so much easier.
And these custom experiences, I cannot wait.
Tropical, one more thing.
And I know Sivu he he's like shit bro like
26 minutes ago i know bro i know man you know i'm not great with the time you know i don't have
like agent to to uh anyone from britain here not you know schedule my my uh my calendar i love
word schedule actually alpha agent told me that i don't know why, but they use it in the UK.
Dr. Dave Cohen also taught me that. He's a pro with a bottle of water.
But Tropical, is there any...
Bottle of water!
Bottle of water!
Bro, like, yeah, I'm not going to say that story again, but man, like, they taught at school, like, the British English, you know, and I, the first time I was in the US I was like
can I borrow your rubber?
Yeah, that's a great idea, right?
I wanted to raise something on it
Oh my god, yeah, that was bad
That was bad
Bro, I can't believe you're making Siwo wait
for this kind of nonsense, bro
Siwo, man, come up and talk, bro
Hold on, one more question for Tropical
One more question for Tropical.
All good, relax.
It's highly interesting.
I know, man.
Sivo is having
a vienishnice with a pomace.
Yeah, I speak German.
Whenever you speak German, I know what you're saying,
but yeah, that's a different story. Tropical, you know, whenever you speak German, I know what you're saying, bro. But yeah, that's a different story.
Tropical, is there anything that you learn through the building that really,
that you think it's going to be a hit for the other side,
that's a great fit for people to do?
You know, honestly, like, I think it's pretty simple, man.
The one thing that keeps me coming
back to it is just the fact that the m square tech is just handling all the networking like
it's a very simple thing that is i think the core like novel thing about other side and odk
like you know sure we realize it you know with our like 2000 player team death match you know
guinness world record attempt you know or we broke the record like that right there.
Right. That was a lot of excitement around that. So I don't know. It's pretty simple.
I, you know, I would just keep going back to the networking thing because like that is always such a hang up and a difficult thing for like, you know, small studios or game devs.
But dude, they they took care of it it's it works you
know we got thousands of people in a single room look at the other games events you know hundreds
of people will show up on the weekends it's packed and you know they're there to play and and it's
all working and everybody's got bubbles and they're talking proximity chat text chat avatars i mean
you know pretty simply put man man, I think the networking
capabilities with M-square is like, you know, something that we all know is there, but maybe
it's not appreciated, you know, entirely on its own. So you go acquiring the M-square team to,
you know, go in there and work with them much closer. It's about to get interesting, I would
say. 25 people or maybe... Not 26.
26 guys. That's the worst number
ever because there were like 26
people banned by Nikita today
because they had some AI agent group, right?
That was my timeline. No, 25 people
were acquired by Yuga, I think.
Which is crazy. Those guys,
they were behind that MLB
experience. And damn,
25 people is a lot.
Bro, they didn't acquire 25 people.
They bought a company.
You can't say they acquired people.
What are you guys wrong with?
I think Gargaz said acquired, bro.
They got company with those people
and they aid the company, bro.
They aid the company, right?
And now the people are part of...
They bought Emporium.
Which employs
But they didn't buy 25 people
Sounds like they bought 25 people
They traded them for NGB
They traded NGB
They flipped NGB
And bought 25 people
I thought they traded them for Pablo and the Mother Cats
That's a good trade
No offense NGB Oh my god I thought they traded over Pablo and the Mother Cats. Oh, my bad. That's a good trade. That's a good trade.
No offense, NGB.
Oh, my God.
I'll stop here, bro.
I'll get canceled.
They will cancel my show, and I'll be homeless.
Yeah, I just got canceled.
I got a DM.
But on a serious note, they bought Emporium, which is the team that was building all the
cool stuff for Improbable.
So yeah, things are about to go crazy.
And at the same time, with all this AI and Vibe coding shit, I mean, if you take the MML docs and just drag and drop that link into cloud code and tell it, what can I build with this?
And it will tell you a million things that you can do straight straight away straight away it does it all for you now it does I swear to you just drag the github
the mml github and put it in cloud code and tell it what can I build with this and now imagine 25
mfers that know how to do shit and they have these tools. It's like thousand MFs five years ago, man.
It's army. It's crazy. So it's wild. Tropical, one more thing. Maybe two more things.
No, no, no, no, no. He paid for it to be here.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
Bro, you paid. I paid you, I know.
I also paid the audience.
You guys were getting paid for this?
I paid to be on here.
I did too.
He said it was so much Apecoin.
It's sponsored by Nada.
Nada is paying me and I'm paying you.
Zero Apecoin for everyone here on stage, guys, since the day one. It's sponsored by Nana. Nana is paying me and I'm paying you. Zero ApeCoin for everyone here on stage, guys,
since the day one.
It's absolutely crazy.
We used to get paid in ETH.
We got zero ETH.
And now we're getting zero ApeCoin.
And I'm taking that ApeCoin and I already bought a GT3 RS.
It's like that meme that you go to wash your car,
but the car is not there.
So that's exactly how it looked like.
But Tropical, two more things.
The first one, you kind of talk about it,
about the tech, right?
But what do you think will be the biggest differentiator
compared to Fortnite, Roblox,
and I don't know what else we have there,
compared in like a use cases and experiences,
not only the tech.
Do you see something already there?
Like, because I want to add one more point.
I started playing Fortnite
and that shit is so addictive.
It's crazy.
They build a game like you are junkie.
You want to play and play and play.
I haven't bought the pass,
but they force you to buy it, man. So
it's crazy. It's like a social media, probably,
that wants to make you
like a junkie, so you stay there as long as
keep you there, right? So what do you think
will be the differentiator for the
other side?
Straight up, I think it's the UGC,
like the user-generated content,
like the stuff people are making here. I feel like we have much more freedom to do as we please.
Of course, there's limitations and stuff like that.
But Rita said it earlier, 160 different projects have avatars in this space already.
And it seems like with Fortnite and stuff, it's like you know it's it's like they really you know they're bringing
in like big names i don't know it's like ariana grande avatar and you know it's like you know
really really big names which is a great you know what i mean that's awesome to see big names but
bro i'm gonna be honest with you i'm much more excited to see my homie get an avatar to other
side i don't know where you know who these popular people are it's awesome good
for them but i think there's a big disconnect and that's the thing i always see the difference
between web3 and the mainstream world i think there's a big disconnect on the content that
gets created on these platforms so roblox whatever fortnite get big ip which is awesome it's fun
but i don't know man at the end of the day, I don't own, you know, whatever it is that Mickey Mouse or whatever, you know, I'm saying. But when you're here with the homies,
and on a smaller scale, you're like much more excited. It's much more passionate, you know,
I mean, it's much more interesting, because it's your friends creating stuff and putting it up
and to have it be accessible. And then it blows up, right? Like people make projects, and they get
super, you know, super, you know, attention and and stuff, right? Like we know Jesus being a sort of like face of a chain
and stuff that sort of so popular. And that could not have been possible on, you know, Fortnite or
whatever, you know, so that's the difference for me. It's that the content on our side is much,
much more meaningful, and much more, you know, created much more passionately,
you know, with like intent.
And the other routes, you know, with the, you know,
mainstream games and stuff with these like pop sort of avatars.
I don't know. They're cool.
But again, you don't feel that sort of closeness and connection
the way you do with our type of content here.
Yeah, I agree, man.
It's a different feeling to be on the other side
and in Fortnite, 100%.
And I'm probably the first one
who actually brought Pamela Anderson
into the other side
because I used Directive Creator Tool.
And yeah, from just three photos,
I created an avatar.
So she doesn't know about it yet,
but I'll tell her
Sounds like you created Pommel and Henderson
Yeah something like that
Damn Tropical I absolutely love
the talk it's
really fascinating and we have great Builder Zero
We have four more questions
for you grateful before we go to
Steve is scheduled for Friday We have four more questions for you, Grateful, before we go to Sivu.
Sivu is scheduled for Friday.
You know, it's like 7.35 p.m. So schedule is like, you know, we finish the other side till the midnight
and then Sivu, you can start talking about what you've been building.
But, you know, time flies in Web3.
It's crazy.
I'm bad with scheduling since day one.
Everyone knows that.
So I'm sorry.
But yeah, I wanted to say that we have great builders here. I know Gatsby he's been killing it with
KidGuri with vibe coding tools. Is here still... no AlphaDGent here to leave. Oh shit I see CJ,
another legend, JB, Mordok, Mutant Cartel, RockSoul, Boom, damn, I always fuck the name up, I'm sorry,
Boom, Manc Rich, that's what I try, who's big, and so many legends,
Hoarder, oh my god, so many legends here, absolutely love that, oh, I see AlphaDigen,
so I want to say wipe coding,
of course, CryptoBullies, another incredible builder here, Sibu,
Machiavelli, Squiddy, oh my God.
NGB, he's been cooking with the ApeCoin
and the legend himself, Rita.
He's also OG since day one.
I love it.
So big shout to you.
Tropical, what's the best way for people to support you?
That's the last one for sure.
And I need to get into the Discord
and I need to start cooking, man.
The way you can support me is by telling Grateful to give me the Ape Chain payment,
like, right now, because I'm actually getting tired of this, man.
This is too much.
This is too...
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
I already sent you zero ApeCoin.
You type in a zero and hit send.
Actually, I sent you a link so I can animate your ape with a Vibe Coding.
So just check it out.
Just check it out. You just paid for
the transaction just to give me zero.
No, no. Hey,
I do a bubble
in the other side every
Tuesday, 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
I also hang out
in the Discord. So back and forth.
Discord, bubble, Discord, bubble. So
find me there if you got questions
go to the renderpool.com you can find a link to the discord there as well
follow the render pool account on x you know follow me if you like if you haven't
and yeah man just uh i think if you tap into render pool that's kind of where a lot of my
energy has been going into lately trying to build that up uh with with the homie md codes uh and i got mods and crypto angie she's a mod lily she's a mod they've been super
helpful uh you know tending to the discord if you got questions they'll look for me and get our
attention uh you know they also moderate so watch out for the banhammers don't do anything stupid
be respectful but uh yeah yeah join the Join the Discord. Hang out there.
And I think you'll see the bulk of what we're doing.
You know what I'm saying?
So that's where a lot of the attention has been at lately.
Please give us a look.
Render pool.
Can't wait.
I'll hop in there.
I'm in 100 servers right now.
But it's cool because those are from 21.
So I can delete like 65% of those.
Or maybe 69.
And we'll join Tropical. Thank you so much for sharing everything. It was incredible. Guys, please retweet the space
right now, even if you got here just right now, because retweeting now will bring more eyes also
to the recording. And I think it was, if you're listening right now, maybe skip first 10 minutes,
you know, that was a little bit too wild. We're talking about Thailand and Honeybee and everything, you know, maybe you can skip that.
But then it was very interesting. We talked about building in the other side.
And I think if you miss that, oh my God. Yeah. I miss you, man.
So yeah, that's, that's Redust.
Bookmark it too. Bookmark it too. Don't forget to bookmark.
Bookmark man in the house reminding you all to bookmark not just this space, but your favorite spaces. If you enjoy your host, right? Bookmark that. It helps with the algo. It helps with the listeners. It helps with the listen back as well. No one checks their bookmarks. And even if you do, even better because there's been some gems here too. So let's get the bookmarks here from 13 all the way up to
20. Let's dream medium
here. Love it,
Squiddy. Squiddy, do you already
own the bookmark.eth
No, I should probably
get it, but
I'm not by a computer, so if someone
wants to go snipe that and gift it to your
I'll maybe pay you for it.
Guys, I'm dying here because it really reminds me of South Park episode, right?
We want to get Sibu and hear about what he's been doing.
We keep going in the circles, and I love it because I wanted to ask you...
Before you go to Sibu, I have a question for Squiddy.
This is turning
into a running gag man Rita where is the marketplace for those wearables I'm on
geez on a dad come on no no tomorrow tomorrow we will we will okay guys I
wanted to start oh shit okay I have one million ape code here ready okay I have
another question for you before we go.
Siro, I miss you, man!
I miss you, man!
But bro, yeah, Makka...
No, no, no, that's crazy, guys, that's crazy, but again, Tropical Arena, arena everyone big shout to you legends absolutely
we have such a great people in the audience too i think i think you should do some more shout outs
but guys there's another space happening i have to go and give shout out to people there
you know what i got a question for siwo siwo i got a question for Siwo. Siwo, I got a question for you, bro. What's going on here?
No, no. Hold on. Before we go to Siwo, Grateful, how are you, man?
Oh, actually, yeah, yeah.
Alpha DJ is requesting.
We got too many questions here, though. Too many questions.
Before we get to Siwo, let's hear what Proof of Alpha DJ has to say.
Oh, baby, Michael, I think you should read.
All I wanted to say say was what about my feelings
bro see we'll go for it man seriously i'm i'm the host now uh i i am captain now
so go for it before we start with see let's talk about the other games
oh my god let's go back to the
i died here i died here That's great guys. I love this
But you're right before we get
Oh my god, Uncle Mike, how is it going?
Okay, but see on a serious note, right? We serious people
Well, it's gonna be very hard now
Monologue by crypto bullies is definitely do before we get to see
So now I'm just kidding. Go ahead. But squiddy. How is it actually?
How is it hosting so many episodes with you? How?
How do you like the silent assassin?
The silent assassin as I affectionately named him.
He's been quiet this whole show, I can't believe it.
It's what he does, so you guys think he hasn't been saying stuff right now.
We ask him so many questions.
I can understand his silence.
So he's been dropped with knowledge without you all even knowing right now.
Actually Squiddy, the only question he's always asking me is what
time is it in europe right now and when i unmute he's like nobody cares 10 a.m eastern 10 p.m
vietnamese time anytime in between whatever time it is in europe no one gives a fuck
i love that i love that so sivu uh the 8102 game, it always reminds me of Gatsby.
Gatsby, what?
No, I'm kidding, guys.
Let's get into it.
Let's get into it.
Don't fucking around because it's going to get crazy.
We've got to be here till tomorrow.
I think there's other space too.
So we have to really get into it because, man, I will tell you a short story how Sivu actually visited us here in Prague.
It was great. We had a FOMO soup ride. We showed them the town.
Siwo, just speak, bro. Just speak. You can speak louder than him.
Yeah, I've had enough of this. Siwo, tell us.
I don't know. I think I will just leave.
No! No! But what about my feelings? I don't know. I think I will just leave. No.
But what about my feelings?
Siu, come on, man.
We got it.
What do you want to know?
We got it.
Okay, let's start with a simple thing, right?
I know you've been building the game for ages, man.
There are missions, there are yachts.
You gave away three yachts away last episode which i'm really grateful for so if anyone hears the the 8102 game for the first time
uh can you explain uh what's the game about and how do you come up with the idea
yeah so um essentially it's a it's a squad building game supporting over 400 collections across six chains.
So it's basically I like to label it a game for non-gamers because it's, you know, rather passive and you join basically various experiences.
various experiences.
And yeah, so you put together teams
based on the NFTs you hold
and then send them on missions and supply runs.
You earn XP, in-game currency,
and resource NFTs on Apechain.
And yeah, we actually have a new big feature
coming on, launching next week.
That's called The Factory.
And yeah, essentially
the idea is to turn the
resource NFTs you
earned in supply runs
into gear items.
Did you say a new
MIG feature, like alluding
to a McDonald's collab? Did I hear that
right? Holy moly!
Who said that?
Swear to God,
I thought I heard you say
a new McFeature.
I was like,
oh, he let the alpha slip.
Got the McDonald's collab.
McDonald's feature.
I just put the prize in the bag.
That's all.
Man, I'm on the site right now,
the 8102.com, guys.
You can check it out there.
And how can people start playing, bro?
Yeah, if you're on the main website,
there's like this play mission button,
and you click that one to actually bring up the game.
And yeah, from that on, there's, you know, a tutorial mode
where my ape pops up and kind of explains what's happening there,
what you can do.
And yeah, that's kind of leading you, you know,
through the whole experience.
I have to admit, it has become, you know, quite whole experience it it i have to admit it has become um you know quite
quite not completely complicated but there's there's a lot going on because um yeah we've been building since uh 21 and um so there's there's a lot to discover but um the the essentials are um
that um you will find um that so-called hidden. It's like our main screen of the game
and you have different buildings on that.
And the three important ones to get started are like the barracks.
That's the place where you put together your teams.
So it will load or scan all the wallets you have connected
via wallet delegation
and enable all the collections it finds in those wallets you have connected via wallet delegation and you know enable all the collections
it finds in those wallets and then you can you know select your NFTs and put together the teams
the second big or important building is the headquarters that's where you can join missions
we have a mission right now and you can after building your team, you don't have to,
you know, do that all over again the next time. You build your team once and then deploy it
in missions. And the third important building right now is the warehouse. That's where you can
start supply runs. That's like shorter missions up to like 12 hours and yeah they end with you being able to claim
a free resource nft on ape chain i'm checking the one of those missions let's get in shape
three and it has like uh 1200 players or teams holy that's that's a lot, man. That's teams, yeah.
But you selected
an old mission from, I think,
two weeks ago or something like that.
So go back to the screen
before and select
the active mission.
The active one is the factory?
The factory, yes.
So if anyone want to join right now,
you go to website, you click on
Sibu's profile, you find the Twitter account, you click on that, you find a link, you click that link and you get into the game.
And if you are in the factory, what's the goal of those missions? How can I become the winner of this game?
become the winner of this game?
There's no winning in that sense
because it's kind of a PVE experience.
So there's no player versus player.
We actually have a leaderboard for each mission.
That's also something you can see.
It should be on the right side unless you're a mobile,
but you can see a leaderboard somewhere.
And actually the main screen of that
is a collection-based leaderboard.
So it detects or counts all combatants
of the different collections that are used in the mission
or deployed in the mission.
And you have a leaderboard of the most active collections
in our game.
And also, man, after joining the mission,
I got a link for the
open page.
That's true. We added that
a couple of weeks ago.
Before that, we had
just essentially a wallet snapshot
we used to upload,
but this was kind of, I don't know,
it didn't always work correctly and there were always people like, hey, I joined,, I don't know, it didn't always work correctly.
And there were always people like, hey, I joined, but I can claim the batch.
So we switched to doing it that way that we set up the batch for the claim before.
And, you know, once you deploy your teams, it reveals the link and the code to the batch.
And man, because I see so many builders here on stage and they also have their own
communities,
I think it makes sense for them.
Can people here create their own missions
like a render pool mission, for example,
or Rila's mission or Fister's mission, right?
Is that possible to actually customize it for a community?
Something like Rita talked about Ape Church, that you can have your own game. Is there a way to do that with
you, man? Not yet, but that's like a big part of, you know, what we will be working on. Currently,
we're focused on, like I said before, the factory and bringing all the in-game economy up to speed,
and bringing all the in-game economy up to speed basically because we're currently
just distributing resources and once the the factory launches you can turn them you can burn
the hn nfts you will get crafting materials and those you can use to craft gear items and
modifications these are kind of things that that you can use to make your team
stronger but once we're once that is you know out of the door and and and running stable um
then um the the we will we want to overwork like the like the whole um thing how missions
are working and kind of introduce um new mission types that are more like, you know, storylines
with like multiple missions that are connected into one single arc.
And the idea behind this is to give projects the capabilities or access to the tools we
built on the site to like set up their own missions and potentially even monetize them.
Because I think that's something that would work really well in that context.
Yeah, that's a great idea, man.
Because I think having communities that already exist,
bring them into your game, That's always a great way.
I really enjoy on Ape Church playing that G's game. That's really dope. And Night Colliders,
they also have their game there, right? So that's a great idea. Do you think or do you plan to
actually connect your game with the other side build?
So, you know, we talk with Tropical, building render pool.
Can this game actually extend or expand into the other side somehow?
But potentially, yes.
I'm very interested in seeing those tools.
So I will definitely check out all the stuff Tropical shared.
So we bought a couple of deeds for our project a while ago.
And yeah, they're for sure plans to like build experiences,
but it kind of, you know, depends how complicated this actually is to,
you know, build that that fits our settings and and
can kind of be seen as a you know extension to our own experience but um yeah potentially um yes
and you you mentioned minting so does it run on a ape chain or eath um yeah we actually we are we
are multi-chain so so the collection support can be on different chains.
Currently we support six different ones.
Like the newer collections we've launched, they are all on ApeChain.
The thought behind it was not only support Apes and the and the ape chain communities, but also, you know, have potentially stuff
there that needs, you know, a lot of transaction and interactions.
Like I mentioned, the resource NFTs, it would be kind of, you know, quite expensive to have that on on ethereum and you know let people all 12 hours
you know mint a couple of tokens that's that's kind of a deal breaker or was a deal breaker for
us so that's that's why we moved to to uh ape chain and are um using that for um you know
collections that that that just um are a good fit for it.
Yep, 100%. Man, I'm on the mission right now.
The mission starts in four days, 20 hours.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
Yeah, we always have a registration phase.
That's actually the...
Usually it's like six days or something like this.
That's the time you have to actually join the mission. And yeah, that's the time you have um you know to to actually join the mission and um
yeah that's that's that's pretty much it my important question because i see squiddy here
do you have fisters there as a as nfts of course damn that's good that's good uh fisting on the
yacht that's the that's the alpha probably yeah we also have we also had um you
know an appearance of a fist character that's it was actually um by diablito and uh yeah we named
him bruce and it's it's kind of it was kind of a funny funny mission um you can you can actually
check out um all of that because uh you first you were like in this in this older mission you
can actually check out all the missions and all the stories we had so far and you can you always
see this you know this little play button on the big image or the view briefing button that brings
up like a dialogue where we do you know the storytelling part there you have like our
characters you know shit talking and stuff. That's usually with
a funny twist.
Do you think you will implement also, or maybe it's already implemented, the Glyph
wallet? Is it hard to implement it?
That's also planned, but I haven't found the time to actually do it. But I have a couple of features that will make a lot of stuff easier related to wallets.
That's kind of how it is with older and long-term projects.
It just historically grows.
And yeah, we kind of have reached a point where we added so much stuff together that all the
onboarding flow is a bit you know a bit tricky and especially with stuff like wallet delegation
when we added this it kind of became a bit of messy you know if people join and then afterwards
set up the delegation there are kind of a few extra steps they have to do
to like a trigger, a refresh that our system checks again,
all the wallets that are connected.
And yeah, that's kind of stuff we want to make easier for sure.
And yeah, adding stuff like the Cliff wallet
and also the abstract one, that's kind of it has been
on on my plan for a while but i just didn't come to it and i understand that you have you have a
missions you you actually create a team and you you deploy it uh but what's like the overall goal if I want to be leader of this game?
You know, because Makavelli just DMed me that he want to win it.
He want to be the best.
So I'm basically asking for him how he can do that.
It's kind of a tough question because they're, you know, currently it's more, you know, on the side of
storytelling and having like this basic experiences. But I can imagine that an interesting
part is getting, you know, a really strong team put together. Because there's like, like I said,
for every mission, there this this leaderboard but
that's not only for collections but also for individual teams so one goal of yours could be to
you know build the the strongest possible team and this will include you know having
certain certain tokens that you can you know first of all create a full team like owning one of our
yards because this also increases your combat power and then you know three combatants three
gear items there are like a couple of different ones not not also our own collections but also
like stuff like 10 ktf or the alternate alternates. These things are supported.
So once you have like a full team, that's kind of, you know, the baseline.
Then it is, the next step is just participating, playing lots of supply runs, joining all our missions.
Because for each mission and supply run you join, your combatants, they collect experience points level up which also
increases their combat power and like the third step that's even you know one level deeper is
the the modifications i meant briefly that's also a collection we launched and that's kind of a way to increase the combat power of specific tokens like for my
ape for example I can add specific mods that increase this combat power for the
yards there are specific mods that can increase the combat power and for gear
items too so there are a lot of, you know, different ways to increase that.
Yeah, it's dope, man. I love to see my NFTs there. Do you collab with any other people here on stage?
When we talk about connecting people? I know with Squiddy, of course, you've hosted 3 million
something episodes together, but did you any anything with other games or planning
or um we we have a few um collaborations where we um you know supplied um yards for for giveaways
and just to get you know more and more eyes on our project um but um in the future obviously we
will do way more with that especially once we are at the stage to have you know specific
missions or storylines for for projects because then it makes a lot of sense because they also
have like an more of an incentive to to be active and and you know bring their community in but
yeah it's it's i'm always happy you know to to talk with people um had a couple of talks with
with web free gets be for example and and yeah it's um i'm always open to to you know explore
stuff and and we already have the capabilities to you know obviously place characters there and
and you know highlight certain things or or do specific missions that, you know, introduce a project and
what they're doing. So like I said, I'm always open to do that. Let's go. That's the way, man.
I just got a DM from NGB. I don't know if I can share it, but I'll share it anyway. NGB actually
DM me that he wanted to share the biggest alpha
about MML, but he couldn't
because Lost kept scheduling
him meetings during the space and he couldn't
actually share that. So
I don't know what's going on with Orange
Shapes, but they definitely
something that we can
share that. We don't know what's
going on and it was probably very important,
so go today, join me at the clubhouse
in other side,
and you might learn, or not,
who knows, right?
But it was probably huge.
It was probably the biggest announcement
of the century.
That sucks, really.
Yeah, Orange Ape strikes back again.
Sibu, what's your biggest goal for 2026 so with the game and with the terms of maybe users
i don't know if you generate any revenue like what would you love to achieve
um i think i think the main goal is to to really um progress really progress with our platform in general
and now launch, obviously, the factory next week.
Then we have a couple of features to expand on that
and add an in-game marketplace for resources.
And probably there will be a lot of, you know, different feature requests.
And yeah, so kind of bringing that whole in-game economy live.
And after that, yeah, more call-ups with projects and, yeah, potentially our, you know,
actually second season with, you know, making a next step in our, you know, overall storyline.
So that's kind of, I guess, the goal, yeah.
And in-game marketplace, that's the alpha.
And Rita, man, who's coming up with all those ideas, bro?
It's crazy, man.
Like peanuts and then wearables,
and you can use those in other side.
That's really cool, man.
Sivu, you're building on Ape Chain.
You are also made by apes.
Gargaz said something like that.
If you are on Ape Chain,
you should be building towards the other side, right?
And you said in the distant future,
you can imagine something.
So how would you see that connection
between your game and the other side?
What is going to be?
Just a broad idea, how you envision that?
Yeah, that kind of depends, like I said before, about the capabilities
and what we can actually build there and how much effort it is to actually build.
I hope in Tropical, do we know the capabilities already? Like what we can build there?
Yes, this is what I wanted to ask. So if you take your code base and add the MML docs and the ODK docs and tell Cloud Code what can I do with this on
the other side, it will probably come up with great ideas on how to implement them.
I guarantee you 100%.
If you do that, it will come up with some great ideas.
And add the Glyph docs, the glyph wallet docs
as well. It will implement it
100%. I've tried it. This is not
like a joke or
maybe it will work. This fucking works.
a website with over
20 tools, but I have
no idea what they do, but they fucking work.
Yeah, I've been
working with Cloud Code for a while
now, so I know
my way around it, and yeah,
you're absolutely right.
If you add the documents, the ODK
documents and the MML documents
and all that, and the Glyph wall documents,
and you tell it to come up with ideas
of how to implement it, it will come up with some
great ideas.
Sivo, I think you and you tell it to come up with ideas of how to implement it, it will come up with some great ideas.
Sivo, I think you should open Cursor or Claude right now and let's add the Glyph there live on Spaces, man.
You can do that.
Do you have the documents for Glyph, Sivo?
I will probably easily find it, yeah.
Use Glyph.io. Build with Glyph. Holy shit, yeah. Use glyph.io.
Build with glyph.
Holy shit, guys.
It's happening.
Another magical experience here in Grateful Show.
No, but I know it sounds...
I know it's possible.
It's fucking possible.
I am not a coder.
I have never said I'm a coder.
I've managed to build some crazy shit yeah i was gonna say the next thing you could also do like as you figure that out
i mean you could even make like a companion world you know so if you want to be involved with other
side like it doesn't have to be complete tie-in right like i don't know at the moment you know
right of course you can come over and try to move everything over but you know if you're comfortable where you are and you have this sort of like you know i don't
know depending on how it's like a web experience or something however you want it to be in the end
you could connect you know the two things together and have this like other side environment that
maybe has like a public leaderboard for something maybe you could see progress and status from other
players maybe it's a companion thing like you said
in the beginning it's more of like a narrative experience there's like some storytelling going on
you could do that in a 3d experience people could jump in there learn about the story interact with
npcs that you know explain more of the storyline or something you know it doesn't have to be like
a one-to-one thing but it could just be a way to kind of tie the two together just to elevate
everybody's experience uh for the game as a whole you know what i mean then they'll be more involved
than either one maybe they want to jump in the other side world and hang out and talk about it
maybe there's like tips and you know show people how to get further or something or maybe they
missed something in the storyline you could have a full-on narrative experience in there with an
avatar telling you or maybe there's some signs you can interact with that lays out the history of your
game, so on and so on, etc.
that sounds epic.
I'm all about
storytelling experiences.
now what Tropical said, you know,
just put it into the cloth and
he will do it for you, bro. But no, I'm kidding.
I'm not kidding, man, because
it used to be like a dream back in the day.
But it's insane.
It's insane.
We are having such a great talk today.
And I think the spaces and bubbles are so amazing because you read the study about that short form video content
that basically if you're watching that a lot during the day,
you will become retarded.
Fuck, Makavi, why did you get finger pointing towards me?
I don't know, man.
But these spaces, you learn a lot, you
socialize, you have fun. It's amazing. It's so much better than timeline and everything. So I
was listening to spaces that Honeybee hosted yesterday at night. It was also banger. You know,
Tropical has been killing it. Other space, other games, you know, Welcome Apes.
It's really awesome. Squiddy, of course,
you know, with Sivu.
It's really awesome experience, guys.
And I learned a lot today, and I have so many
new ideas that I will talk
to Claude about. It's
really, really dope, man. It's really
dope. So, yeah.
Sivu, I built a skills
for Claude based on all the documentation,
including Glyph and everything else.
If you want, I can share it with you very soon.
That would be great.
For your Claude.
So it already comes built in with all the ODK knowledge
and all the other side knowledge
and all the different stuff that you would need.
It has 3GS. It has everything you would need. It has 3GS.
It has everything you would need.
Please do.
Just let me polish it up.
I think I need another couple of days and then I'll share it with everyone,
The future is now.
That's the quote of wait i just i just i just asked claude how many documents i have uh 180 plus documents in the in that skills so yeah it's very helpful
so if you if you plug it in with your
code base it will give you some
great ideas
perfect thanks a lot
that's awesome man
everything is guys possible
and being curious.
Rita, you're a legend, man.
I absolutely love it.
The only thing that's not possible, if you have an orange background, there's no way to make you unretarded.
There's no leader like Rita!
Oh my god.
I will use
AI and I will create a new Star Wars
episode called Rita Strikes Back
because that was
a good one, Rita. Bro, did you just...
I just tried Nano Banana, the new one.
It's insane. Yeah, I will do that after the space, man.
I can't... Bro, the sequel is
going to be called Return of the Retarded.
I don't even, like, hear... I just hear, like, poop sounds don't even like hear I just hear like poop
sounds when orange people speak I just hear so whatever that was I don't know
what it was that's all that poopoo in your ears bro clean your ears up the
subtitles for orange background fart noises isn't orange background. Fart noises. Isn't orange background synonym for Mr. Hankey?
What if I say
G's on top?
You still farting now, huh?
There's a twist.
I heard G's.
Who said G's on top?
It's turkey, man. Mr. Hank gave a Christmas poo.
Small and brown, he comes from you.
Sit on the toilet, here he comes.
Squeeze and tween your festive buns.
A present from down below.
Spreading joy with a howdy.
He's seen the love inside of you.
He's a piece of food.
Oh my god.
Howdy howdy.
Yo, that was
unexpected, but amazing.
That's kind of quickly, guys.
How did we end up here?
Oh, bro, we need poop in it.
No, no, no. We need a poop
mission, man. Probably.
Damn, South Park, Mr.
Henke. Yeah, I think that's another character that we should bring to the other side.
Tropical or whoever want to do that, do it.
Because, yeah, maybe every...
Rita, that would be dope.
Oh, there's tons of Mr. Hankeys running around already.
Look at all the slop.
Never mind.
I mean, free airdrop for all orange background apes.
That's the idea, right?
Upgrade your PFP, guys.
Is that Mr. Tiffany Blue talking?
I mean, wait a minute.
What are we doing?
That is Mr. Tiffany Blue talking.
He just derailed the whole thing with Tiffany Blue.
A floating piece of Tiffany Blue in the pool.
Don't go swimming with Grateful because he's going to leave a floating piece of Tiffany Blue in the pool.
You wouldn't catch Lost with Mr. Hankey, but I bet you will catch NGB with one.
You know what I'm saying?
He put one on his eight on his profile picture didn't he yeah but ngb wanted really to
share some alpha but he couldn't because of lost so let's see the next episode guys uh hopefully
we get something out of it and sivu how can people support you right now and uh maybe do something
like elevator pitch like send them to the mission, man. Force them to do the mission.
Everyone should do the mission.
Yeah, that's easy.
Do the fucking mission.
No, but seriously,
it really doesn't take up much of your time.
So just get started,
put together your teams,
and then deploy it
whenever we launch something new.
It's easy.
Let's go. I really hope we pump those
numbers, and I love
your marketing because Pilot did that. He was
like, mint those fucking
trainers, and everyone did. They minted
it out within, I don't know, five minutes,
so it 100% works.
Yeah, guys, support Sivu,
go to that mission, it out mess around you know
see what he's been building he's been around since I remember since I remember since since ages so
it's great man I see who I just want to tell you I really give you kudos on your name because you
got one of the most unique names that I've heard ever your name sounds like a like a like a gangbanger would say it while they doing the
crypt walk or something i mean it's crazy see whoo exactly i don't have such an experience bro
i did like it and go mint a yacht mint a yacht the men's been open for four years
Minta Yacht. Minta Yacht. The Mint's
been open for four years.
Oh, yeah. I almost forget to say that.
Minta Yacht. I got you, Silu.
I got you, bro. You're too humble.
But go Minta. Before we get to Silu to close
it out, do we want to cover some other things?
I'm just kidding. The next
games. Oh, the other games.
The next games. I actually
trademarked that. Sorry, guys.
Put some respect on my name, right?
My name is Silu. See y'all out in
traffic, right?
Like, AlphaDigion
coming here and grilling Siwu,
that wasn't on my bingo card today, guys, but
yeah, we kind of started this place
wild. Siwu's like,
I'm never coming back to you, MF. Even you pay
me, but I'm never coming back to you, motherfucker.
AlphaDigion, please don't come.
Yeah, Alphadee should be like,
see what I did there.
I'm gonna come.
Please don't come.
That's ugly.
Let's go with something else.
What's the story behind your name, bro?
Is it really from the gangbang parties
that Alphigent said?
No, I don't know anything about that.
No, not really.
I'm actually not really sure how I came up with it. And it was way more complicated.
Because actually, you can see the name I used before in the handle.
Actually, you can see the name I used before in the handle.
It's Cybobite.
And, you know, I made the name and was never, you know,
thinking about actually saying it out loud.
So, yeah, actually the idea came from Winsman guy, if you know him.
He's also an Austrian ape.
an Austrian ape.
And he kind of told me why
or asked me why I don't get
like the short version of,
because a lot of people are like,
you know, having short names
with the zero at the end
And yeah, it was available
and yeah, quick win.
Got it, man.
I did the same, man.
My ape was,
my name was Greatflame,
the winner of the universe,
the best player of other... Yeah, that's way too complicated.
But guys, really support Sivu.
Check what he's been building.
Click on that link.
And have fun, you know.
Thank you so much, bro.
I know Makavele, he also...
Or is there anything else you would love to share man?
MachaMelly or me?
MachaMelly
MachaMelly
MachaMelly
MachaMelly is wild
I can ask a new nickname nickname I proved a new nickname
I'm dying here guys
it's such a great episode today
I don't know what's going on
what's in the air
or in the other side
or in the water
I don't know what's going on there What's in the air or in the other side or in the water I drank? I don't know what's going on there
but it's absolutely crazy.
I can't wait
on you until you post
the clip of Rita
and doing the fart noises.
Yeah, that might happen. You never know, man.
No, he's going to clip that, bro.
This shit will go viral.
But is there anything you would love to share?
Just join a mission
if you want. Mint a yacht.
And yeah, keep
supporting.
Awesome, man. Thank you and good luck
on the journey.
You've been here with us since day one.
Absolutely love that.
And also, good luck
to your team. let's fucking go
I know you wanted to add something and I also
have a question
for you but before we get into that I wanted to
no I'm kidding man other games
what's going on Saturday
how you doing man
this Saturday at
you will see typical tigers fight the villainous G-Zone Ape.
If you take your attention to the Jumbotron above, you will see a short film.
You will see who our villain is.
I still don't see that, bro.
No, you didn't watch the movie?
I really love the fact that Honey Bee, it's up top.
It's the typical Tigers experience.
When Honey Bee made this little movie and we came up with games and a story around the typical Tigers,
I didn't expect it to be a little film with us saving the Tigers like I thought. You know what I'm saying? I really i didn't expect it to like be a little film with us saving
the tigers like i thought like you know what i'm saying like i really just didn't expect it and
when you go watch this movie it's actually done really really well um we got a chain ip galore
in there like with you know the g's on ape being like the uh quote-unquote sinister like the cyborg
ape you know uh being the sinister villain in the in the in the short film and stuff
I actually really really just appreciate the little the references and everything in the video came out really really good
And we look forward to hosting don diablo
And the tigers this weekend. So come one come all
It's going to be a great experience
Can't wait man that sounds great. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold up, hold up.
What do you mean reference and sinister G's?
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
You didn't see?
I know, brother.
I was, like, really shocked.
I was really shocked.
What are you talking about, Machamelli?
What are you talking about?
Yeah, look.
Look, check out.
What about my feelings?
What about Machamelli?
What about Machamelli What about Mac-a-Milly? What about Mac-a-Milly?
Mac-a-Milly?
What about Mac-a-Milly?
What about Mac-a-Milly?
Oh, hilarious.
I hope that one don't stick right, Mac.
I don't mind, bro.
Call me Mac-a-Milly.
Call me Mac-a-Billy. A-Milly, a-Milly, a-Milly. I'm like a Millie Ocean already, don't mind, bro. Call me Mac Amilly. Call me Mac Abilly. Amilly.
Amilly. Amilly. Amilly.
So it don't matter. Call me whatever you want.
There you go, but don't call me
late to the other games, right?
You know, Mac. These guys
talking about something. I saw it, but what about
Mac? What about Mac Amilly?
Anyway, over to you,
Grateful. Take us home, bro.
Oh my god.
Yeah, you're listening to
CEO of Ape Games,
Alpha Legion, so...
I'm the CEO of the janitor's crew,
but definitely...
Here to clean it up.
We're going to have to land that.
1-22, Jesus Christ. It got... but definitely playing grateful to clean it up we're going to have to lend it 122 jesus christ it got episode 442 has come to an end it got out of hand guys i'm grateful you don't never want to part it again keep going bro
don't land it oh there you go g's on top. Cheese up.
Got that right, sweetie?
That's a Seaboo, right?
Seaboo, that's the game.
Wait till you see my eye.
Okay, I saw the Seagulls there.
But, yeah, I will land my plane.
I have it here ready.
So we are landing.
Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
That didn't go that well.
That don't sound good.
We didn't land.
We didn't land, we...
We crashed.
Yeah, yeah, again, not good.
But guys, what a great episode.
I absolutely love the passion, the community.
They are landing the plane much better than me.
It's incredible. We have so
many great builders. Rita, you're opening
the store tomorrow, so we need to
fucking kill it there. I go to
spend my peanuts to buy some dope stuff.
I hope you have dope wearables there.
they will be limited.
We'll start off tomorrow
then we'll keep on dropping every week
or something or during events
we will keep on dropping different ones
we're just
trying shit like everything
we just try shit
see what sticks as proof of
alpha d gem says
also I know uncle mac has been building I don't know if it's secret or not see what sticks as proof of alpha d gem says.
Also, I know Uncle Mac has been building some... I don't know if it's secret or not, so I'll shut up here, but I'll try to sign in again or sign up and it got me by balls bro.
I used glyph, you know, it said no, no, you're not allowed there.
And I even said that I know Uncle Mac, but still didn't let me in.
I even said that I know Uncle Mac, but still didn't let me in. So Uncle Mac,
So Uncle Mac, anything you would like to add to that,
what you've been building, or maybe it's secret
and you're not building anything.
And I didn't say anything.
I don't know.
Oh, who's that?
No, I just wanted to make a joke and say,
I'm grateful you need to ask your your claude your claude bot
to um you know just uh log me in bro yeah yeah i'll copy that there too or ask a mac amyli
or asia cloud buddy i'll take care of that for you
that we are a group of serious people guys yeah so uh i i've added some i've added some debug
we are a group of serious people guys
stuff so the next time you log in we'll we'll troubleshoot that we'll make sure it works uh
it's sort of secret i've sent the link to a few people there's a few people testing it
uh mcgavelli has the link but he you know he's not messaged me about it mcgmaili sorry you know
he's he's not he's not said anything about it so maybe maybe he's not messaged me about it. Macamelli, sorry. He's not said anything about it, so maybe
he's not even tried to log in.
I haven't even tried. I'm going to be real with you.
I haven't tried. Yesterday I woke up
and chose violence, and even today
I want to choose violence, so I've just kind of been
staying away from everything. Thank you.
I mean, try to log in, and if it doesn't let you log in,
then you can choose extreme violence and just
smash your phone to pieces.
No, I would never damage anything. If you want to, if you want to take it. No, no,
I would never damage anything.
that's fine.
Just reputation.
You know what I'm saying?
Please do it on camera if you do it.
Cause if you didn't,
it didn't happen.
we all got canceled here today.
Thank you so much for listening after 4 years
and 34 days behind the microphone
this was it
you had a good run
we had a good run
is this the last grateful show
nah we never stop
we never stop
he can't stop he just broke the. Yeah, he can't stop.
He just broke the landing gear, so he can't land the plane.
That noise, what you heard, that was the landing, bro.
We got to be flying, man.
I went off to this crazy ride, bro.
I went off.
He better brought you a parachute with you, bro, because if not, you stuck with us.
Bye, guys.
We have a meet at the clubhouse today we have a
basketball space me squiddy and marathon
tomorrow we have a
jeez wearables tomorrow
we have other games on saturday
tropical when is your next
or i know on tuesday right
but do you have any other
cozy corner?
You have a cozy corner?
Oh, bro. Okay. I wanted
to fill this in, but yeah,
there was a lot of time. Do we ever talk about that?
No, no. And I wanted to, but
I have another announcement.
So it's been a busy week, man.
I'm hyped.
It's, you know, I'm feeling good.
A lot of stuff, great stuff has been happening. I with dc on the side direct to creator shout out to him
but you know he knows that me angie lily have been hosting this thing called cozy corner
it's just a total vibes fest right so just you know there's games plenty of games plenty of
competition and we were just like how do we bring people together on the other side just to do something fun uh without any pressure of competition
and stuff and people just went with it man we just we just set it up and people showed up dude all
every time and so lately we've been streaming movies and that's kind of a big thing so in the
discord the other girls discord go check it out go join them uh in there there's a little section
for us for cozy, and we just stream
movies, have discussions, talk about stuff. People might need help with something. Last time,
we saw a movie, and then afterwards, somebody was like, oh, I need this badge. And we're like,
well, let's just all go together and do it together. And there was like 20 of us or something
trying to do badges together. was it was a nightmare and it
was so much fun it was chaotic but yes so dc hit me up and said hey when's your movie time i said
on fridays so every friday uh we have a movie time so he said well why don't we try something
and and see we can get like an m video thing you know from like the mml coding to show up uh in game and so i built this uh movie theater prop you know and i
i ripped assets straight from the swamp i have a i have some files for the swamp and stuff with a
bunch of assets so i was able to go in there and rip like a bunch of wood planks and uh speakers
you know from the auditorium and so the amphitheater area and i built this like movie screen
and and dc uh shared it and he tested it
and like he had this video going on literally in the swamp uh there's still some issues with this
so we're trying to figure it out and i think it'll work much better in the public mml worlds right so
i think it'll fare better there um also we can't really stream rain like pop movies because we
might need a license for that right so? So we want to be careful.
But a lot of cool creative stuff is starting to spring out of this.
So we created a screen and everybody's imagination is going wild, bro.
Like we have a screen in game.
Like we can watch something, show something, display something.
We started talking about, you know, using it for the fashion show.
People can stand in front of the screen maybe there's like music going on we talked about hiring actors within other side
like we have tryouts and people can come up and try out for roles we get someone in the community
who's a writer to write a short story Machiavelli and the other games team have already done
snippets for like silly little promotions for the other games events we thought well why don't we compile all of those into a longer video and just hang out in game and
watch those clips all over again right super fun it's community built so but but we thought about
well what if we make something you know our own so if somebody writes a story and it has maybe it
involves a coda maybe machiavelli's coda and there's a storyline and we just act it out in game record
it edit it and then just stream it in the game uh so we're still learning of what we can do right
with mml and all this right so this is really exciting um but yeah so cozy corner is gonna
have like more movie time so tomorrow uh come by and uh watch we're gonna watch scary movie two
i don't know people just chose scary movie one it was so
funny in the chat the chat was going crazy just everybody laughing making jokes and uh it just
took off from there now people want to watch part two because it just so it's such a silly movie
um but yeah that's the uh another thing i did with dc with some mml stuff and you know we're trying
to create you know mml is cool people do cool stuff but i feel like a
lot of time it kind of gets like well they did something cool and it's cool for them you know
that's kind of where it ends a little bit sometimes right but with this public mml world uh it's going
to you know really allow everyone to enjoy the creations and so you know me and dc are just
thinking it's you know this movie screen is the way to go. It's like, this is a good idea.
And so, yeah, we'll see where it goes,
but yeah, yeah, that's an exciting thing right there.
So definitely check that out.
RenderPool is on Tuesdays at 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.
I flip flop back and forth.
So this week we'll be in the Discord
working on the RenderPool Hotel project together,
like live in real time.
So if you have questions about the Blender template
or how to model, how to build, how to set your room up,
I'm going to be there for a few hours hanging out in the Discord.
Then the following week, I'll go back to a bubble
and the other side for discussion
and talk about what we've been doing.
So, yeah, thank you.
Let's go. That was great.
The main alpha, guys, go to the Discord,
follow Tropical, for everyone here on stage
It's it's incredible ride and damn someone's calling you
Yo, hello shorty. What are you doing?
Smoke some
Are you all alone What's up What's up
Here we go
Hello grateful
Tell me grateful
I'm not grateful I'm Cindy
I am Cindy
And I will be version forever
Yeah but uh To find out more about the Cozy Corner movie thing,
go follow Crypto Angie.
She's down in the chat there.
Go give her a follow.
Go look up the other girls' Discord.
That way you can be more tapped into the Cozy Corner movie time
and all that good stuff.
So, yeah, shout out to her for helping coordinate that.
That was basically their idea.
They just came up to me to kind of help, like, you know it put it together and come up with more ideas and so yeah we've been riffing
on it together and it's been a lot of fun so go give her a follow little lily and crypto ng
they're the kind of mastermind yo the chat was absolutely on fire during scary movie one it was
probably one of the funnest movies to watch because you're dealing with like this you know uh pop cultural social economical like opinional like like it just it just turns
pop culture on its fucking head when it comes to scary movies and like all the stereotypes and
racism and stuff like that and i think that like it was just kind of refreshing to be able to laugh
at all that stuff with a group of like 25 30 people and everybody be commenting in
in the chats and like you know it reminding us all of our favorite but it's like a real
communal thing because we're watching the movie but yo that chat is on fire you know like hilarious
like you i'm actually laughing out loud because of the movie and everybody being stupid like it
was a good time man back in the day the movie was absolutely crazy
it was so crazy it was so crazy just wait till wait till stronghand comes out here tomorrow
just come on come through rebel come spend some time with us yeah man don't be afraid you know
get into the other girls discord and uh come spend a little time yeah i need to get better
with discord guys i. I need to...
I don't know how to do that, man.
Just make sure you have a blood sample and your identification ready and all of that.
You know, that way you can sign up and get in there, no problem.
I mean, you know, take all the precautions.
Yeah, bro.
Palantir is just going to get a little pic of your face.
No big deal, brother.
You need to do that verification.
No big deal.
You don't have to.
No, no, no. It's not. Yeah, it's not. JK, LOL. No, no, you don't have to.
JK, LOL, JK, LOL.
Okay, okay, yeah.
Yeah, Gatsby's the only one who has a problem because he's under 16, so...
Bro, under 12, man, you always get it wrong, man.
Oh my god.
We're talking about age, bro, we're talking about age.
You're gonna need a permission slip from a parent, you know, need a cosign. Thank you.
Can you cosign for me, bro?
But guess what about you, man?
Any upcoming announcements,
any space, anything,
any activations that you want to share with us?
I mean, I'm cracking my ass with this shit,
with Real Alert,
fucking trying to get it fully, fully operation.
I know i should
first do marketing product market fit and stuff like that but i'm just getting carried away so
other side listings now works and you can buy those and it executes there's a quest system
trying to plug in badges with other page so i'm trying to make something that
uh bridges anyone from the six available chains where people can set alerts on.
Very easily use Relay within the UI to bridge to Ape on ApeChain
for the payments of their real alerts that they're going to be setting.
And for them to kind of, you know, become familiar with ApeChain and stuff
and with other page and all the other stuff that we have in our ecosystem,
including other sites.
So it's kind of like a funnel, right?
I want to use this.
I think it's something that many users on many chains and NFTs are going to want to use
and derive that into Ape on Ape chain, right?
So yeah, man, that's what I'm cooking mostly right now.
There's other stuff on the plates as well, like wearables with OP and stuff.
But to be honest, I've been kind of paused on that side because I'm fully concentrated on this.
And because Kid Goody is skiing that motherfucker for a whole week.
So that would be his side mostly.
But yeah, man, that's kind of what's cooking.
And then after I deploy this, you know, obviously iterate feedback, change things up and i want to start playing around with you know um 3d stuff with
claude with mml's all this stuff uh with double as well from op uh which i think is dope it's
like an automatic you know uh ai agent uh 3d those worlds and spaces ecosystem as well so
you know i want to start touching all that as well but i've just been caught up with this for the last to be honest two or three months it's not so easy to vibe code shit
if you want to make it proper and secure and stuff like that so yeah man that's kind of kind of what
i'm cooking right now so i i hopefully will have it done for next week uh but i will still need to
do the marketing plan i want to reach out to a couple of founders,
see if they want to contribute.
It's not just going to be founders on ApeChain.
I want to also reach out to collections both on Abstract, on Ethereum
because like I said,
there's going to be a leaderboard, right?
And there's going to be a season
and it's going to reward those that set alerts
and actually successfully hunt the alerts
of the grails they're setting.
So, you know, gamifying it a bit,
making it fun and then
the contract itself it's already done there's going to be burn mechanic of ape so for every
payment five percent is going to be burnt and the 15 is going to be allocated to a seasonal pool
which i'm still deciding what it will do if it maybe sweeps the winner collection with most alerts
or if it just sweeps rillas and rillasilla's D-Picks, right? Because if it's a
big collection on ETH or something,
we're probably not going to be able to
sweep enough with that, right?
But yeah, that's kind of the fun stuff that
I'm tweaking, man.
Let's go, man. Love to hear it, guys.
great show today. It was on
the wilder side, especially because of Makamele, but, you know, it is what it is, guys.
We are having a great time here.
He's always such a man, bro.
You know, always fucking...
Who's talking?
Oh, I wasn't sure.
It's Makamele, bro.
What are you talking about, man?
I know that.
I know that. I know that.
Guys, join other games.
Join missions.
Enjoy this space.
I want to say enjoy the market,
but I'm not sure if you want to enjoy that.
I don't know if you can enjoy that.
It depends.
But guys, enjoy your Aquamarine background.
And if you don't have it, I'm sorry.
But what a banger today.
Absolutely love that. Great vibes vibes did you see that that there's been a company that as soon as they've
been sued and they've stopped operations bitcoin has started going up and then they've been
oh man individually for the last four months keeping bitcoin down it's pretty interesting
article i gotta find it and share with you but yeah bro i wanted to start no no no no what are
you talking about jane street yeah yeah exactly keeping bitcoin at that price oh yeah man pretty
well yo what's even wilder is it vitalik sold all the coins to pay for their legal defense
yeah that's true bro yeah great i think it was garga that posted about it. That's the wildest fucking shit out of all of this.
Is that Violet Licks going to pay for their legal defense?
I just don't understand it.
I mean, I know crime's happening everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Like this little fucking, what's this kid's name
that just did with Axiom
where he was doing the insider trading.
He was pretty much farming all the farmers.
He literally followed Frank,
Marcel, all these guys. And then when they would bundle something, he was pretty much farming all the farmers. He literally followed Frank, Marcel, all these guys.
And then when they would bundle something, he would go bundle on the adverse through Axiom and fucking pretty much grade their coins.
Essentially, is what he did. All the farmers were getting farmed.
And so I just think it's really, really interesting.
Some of these big players and the way that they move with these fucking market makers or these exchanges and stuff like that.
Like, I feel like it's just open crime season.
It has been like even for Polymarket.
I'm going to tell you right now.
There's no way that Polymarket operates ethically and doesn't take advantage of its users through all of the through all of the Polymarket prediction bets,
especially with shit like Beast Games and stuff like that, where where they have access to all those peoples and teams.
and stuff like that where they have
access to all those peoples and teams
and they kind of know things. That's why somebody had
They kind of know things.
to get out of it and they outed that Beast Games
editor for betting
on the show that he edited and produced.
So I'm going to tell you right now, if we
really set an investigation out on all this,
we would find fault in all these fucking
companies because there's no way that they did it
I just can't unsee Vitalik
with that little sinister laugh. Now I can't unsee vitalik that with that little sinister laugh now i can't
unsee him called vitalik the vitalik really proves true to them well i've been calling him vitalik
i've been calling him vitalik for i don't even know how long because uh my grandfather has a
ranch we used to put them salt licks out there for the cows i think one of them brands was vitalik
and like ever since then like i just always have called it. I can't see it. Been licking walls since day one and proud of it.
Sounds good, guys.
Oh, Vitalik.
I feel like I need to pause, right?
This is 2021.
A Vitalik salt block fucking NFT would have already been released And probably be 3 ETH
Right now, running
Crazy guys
We're gonna wrap it up here
No more positive energy
You know, now the day turned grey
I have a question
Before we get into that question
I would like to
Go ahead I'm just kidding I don't have a question. Before we get into that question, I would like to ask...
I'm just kidding, I'm kidding, I don't have a question.
We're not...
Oh my god, it was a wild one.
It was a wild one.
But, you know, we've done...
What's his question though? What's his question? I'm really curious.
Before we get into that question, I would like to ask Otter.
Otter is not on stage yet.
So let's guess what the question is.
But before we guess, let me ask Alpha DJ.
Holy shit.
I have James here.
Damn, guys, we just wrapping it up.
James joined us in the audience and we just shared all the Alpha.
We're just praying for our gop father here
thank you so much for joining us but uh yeah he's been here he's been here the whole time
holy shit i miss him i miss him that's so sad he was under his vitalik account oh my god gops
gops gops on top guys it's time to wrap it up go to watch scary movie on the other side big shout
to everyone who joined us here on stage guys guys. You're such a legend. Shared
so much valuable stuff for the listeners, guys. If you
joined us now, go to the recording
and listen to the... Skip first 10
minutes, you know, and listen to the
MML and how to build in the other side.
It was amazing.
Tropical and everyone here, Rita,
you know, Sivu and so on,
AlphaDigen. thank you so much guys
thank you so much
thank you so much
and let's fucking go, this was great
for sure, 442 and see you
tonight, meet at the clubhouse
maybe it's not tonight for you, it's maybe
today, morning, I don't know
but it's gonna be great, let's fucking go
I remember my question I remember my question
I remember my question now
wait is this over it's over now
wait now it's over before you remember
your question we clapping
clip that bro clip that
but what's the question
keep clapping what's your favorite
what's your favorite color, dude?
Aquamarine, MF.
I thought you were going to say orange.
I thought you were going to say orange.
Nothing rhymes with orange,
so I don't like that word.
You're just so boring.
Did you say orange or Mr. Henke?
I think we kind of infected Tropical and there's going to be some surprise for Orange Apes on the other side.
It's going to be crazy.
I got a yellow background.
So, yellow background, I don't know.
I'm kind of feeling it.
You're in the orange family, bro. You're family.
Yeah, we're related.
We're related.
Yellow background is like if you are orange
and drink more water or something like that, right?
We don't talk about
yellow backgrounds enough is all I got to say.
There's a good amount of yellow backgrounds
out there, you know?
Gotta clip this outro.
feel good to be Aquamarine.
That's what he said.
Yellow background
will rise up one day.
Rita, and I will have a steak right now.
Sorry. Wave him off the stage, please.
Such a nice lyrics.
How to end this space.
Have a good one, guys.
Thank you so much for tuning in.
Let's fucking go.
See you on Tuesday.
And don't forget, today, meet at a clubhouse.
Big shout out to everyone.
Thanks, Greg.