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Building Web3 Community - Cardano Ministry #207 | Stake DRMZ 💜
Recorded: July 20, 2026 Duration: 1:42:06Space Recording
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Yo, yo, yo! Welcome, welcome to the show. Shout out to those of you that are joining us early.
Shout out to those of you that might be listening later. Yeah, man, it's Cardano Ministry
episode two zero seven. So, yeah, man, it's been a long conversation that we've built.
We're gonna keep growing it. Waiting on Bad Money Razo to hop on so we can officially get started,
man. But it's good to see some familiar faces. If y'all want to come up and shoot the shit, banter,
just you know, get the ball rolling on discussing anything that you're up to.
Please make your way up to speaker. If not, let me just quick give a shout out to DRMZ Stake Pool,
which we continue to run and operate. 68 blocks today. Actually, we are celebrating two blocks that
we got. Epoch 36634. So I thought we were just gonna get the one. We ended up hitting two,
so that's exciting times. It's always nice to be able to hop on and and tell our community
about actually winning and and you know, there's small victories. We're decentralizing the network.
We are making Cardano more robust, and then we're building our dreams on top of the technology
that Charles and and the rest of the founding entities gave us. Right, so. Anyway,
Web3 building community is kind of the thing on the topic today. I have a few things to recap,
other than our our two successful blocks. There's also a bunch of stuff that's happening pretty soon
in the ecosystem, so we'll do a little recap of of what we know is going on.
And please feel free to chime in, retweet this space, go ahead and pin things to the chat.
We'll pin them to the top. Yeah, let's get this conversation going. So, Razo,
are you are you on? I see you're on the the panel. Are you able to speak?
I cannot hear. Oh, he's down to listener now. Yeah, he's he's setting up
like a new a new mic situation. So bear with us while we get that started, and then we'll dive in.
But yeah, two blocks, man. Exciting times, you know. Cardano Dream Stake Pool has been around now
for almost five years. So it'll be five years in January. So we still got
a few months before we hit that five year mark. But you know, I was in the space well before that.
That that was just when we decided to start a stake pool as a small little community. Thing
and and now it's grown a bit and we have a lot more support and new homies
like Razo Mike check Mike check we got more homies like Razo as he fixes his mic
that just kind of became a part of the community you know and and now we're the ones kind of guiding
where the conversation goes at least locally in our regions and making sure that there is
a conversation at least one that involves Cardano
and in a very profound way so Yuan bad money Yuan Razo
I see you as co-host, and I see that you are unmuted, but I cannot hear you.
Yo, maybe I'm rugging. Can you guys hear me?
Let me know via emoji if I am audible. Yo, yo. I see you requesting again, so invite. Let's see.
Yeah, I see the emoji. Thank you, chatterbox. Um, let's see. It says you just have to accept it,
dude. It's so so on my end. It just has that I've already invited you,
and you just have to accept it. Let me remove it, remove from co-host,
and let me try to add as a speaker. And now I'm going to invite you to to co-host again.
Let's see if that's the magic. But yeah, man, I'm excited. There's a lot to talk about.
There's so much going on in the space. While we get these tech issues figured out, right?
We got Rare Evo just around the corner. I don't know if you guys are going to make your way there,
but I absolutely will be there. I'll be chilling at the Cardano Foundation
booth for a little minute there, just kind of talking to the community,
and then of course doing just the the socializing and the networking in general throughout the con.
So I think I'm gonna be there probably like late into the 28th, but you know I'll be there
through the 31st. For anybody that's going to be there, we can chat. We can get together in person.
I'm hoping that there's more opportunities to just do IRL stuff, which is what
I really want to talk about once we get this convo going. And I think we may.
I'm crossing my fingers that they can make it. It was a very last-minute invite,
but the group that I went out with yesterday for a fun kind of Web3 dinner.
Good company may be joining us to kind of chat about their project. It's an ETH-based project,
but it's cross-chain community building. So we did a lot of conversations with them,
and might even partner up on future similar events. We'll get into all that in a minute.
But let me double check. Mike, check bad money. Yo, can you hear me? Yeah, yeah. There you go.
There you go. I can hear you now. Yeah, man. Good company, huh? Good company to pair with bad money,
right? What does that give us, right? Some middle ground in between. Now, but but honestly,
you know, we've talked about this before. This is why I like this as a conversation topic
because everybody has different approaches to how they build community and what's successful
and what's not. You know, Cardinal Ministry as as a small community that stemmed from from
the Stoners Club, larger community. Shout out Big Joe the Don, and you know,
we kind of just kept it going because. You know, I I really like tapping in with the community.
I I know that people listen to the recordings, after you know if they can't make the space,
they'll they'll they'll still. I I see the interest is there, so I'm like you know, yeah,
we have a community. We just we just we're just dormant. We're we're just kind of doing
our own thing outside the space because there's not a whole lot going on in the space,
and you know I don't see too many people building ways for people to network and mingle
and connect in a real sense. Like we're doing that. Like we're out there doing exactly the type
the type of thing that I'm talking about now. On a week to month basis, right? Like,
I remember we were doing monthly meetups, and now we're only doing quarterly. But still, like,
we're out there in the community, right? Boots on the ground, like, like the homie likes to say,
"Ground game strong," right? And you need IRL to really activate like real community. That's how you
and I met. Raza was was IRL at a meetup, right? So like, there's power behind that,
and you really get the people who are passionate about the tech. So that was kind of the overlap
between all of us. Is even though we were coming at it from different chains,
there was some ordinals people there, there was some ETH people, there was some Ape chain people.
And and mainly that was that was that and you know we brought Cardano and Midnight to the table,
kind of gave them a little rundown of of what each one is and what each one does
and how they how they they partner together to really give you something interesting
in this new zero knowledge moment. So there's a lot, man. There's so much going on,
and then obviously I don't know if you're keeping up with governance and votes and stuff.
And I know you and I were talking about markets a little bit before we hopped on.
So I'm hoping we can do a little TA analysis for those of you that are interested in that
on certain tokens that you know I I believe in or that that I think are awesome NFA.
But Razo studies the charts, so I'm curious about his take. And and it's it's for
educational purposes and all that jazz. But anyway, welcome to episode 207, building Web3 community.
So I'll toss it to Razo to take it in a direction. And yeah, if you guys want to come up and chat,
yo, please, please come up and chat. Yo, I'm so bummed I can't go to Rare Evo. Ah, wamp. Let me do
sad sad sounds. Hold on, where's the sad sounds? Shit, what's the sad sound? Oh, this one. Yep, yep,
yep. I'm still like thinking of ways, like I'm about to have a baby. If you guys. No, dude,
you can't. You can. The only way is you take your baby to be born in Vegas. That's it, right?
But it's such a great opportunity. I want to see who's left behind in the community. Now,
I want to show up to Rare Evil and see like 50 people. Yeah. Because I feel like next year
it's gonna be different. You think there'll be more people or or less people at the next Rare Evo?
So so right now, I'm I'm expecting. You know, we were there last year,
so so kind of comparing it to last year, I think it might be a little bit smaller. I want to say,
but but at the same time. It's an interesting transition that Rare Evo has gone through
because they were mainly Cardano for the first few iterations of it,
and and then they started branching out. And right now they're mainly not Cardano,
so they're heavy outside investors, VCs, whatever, buying booths and and yeah,
like partnering with them on this event. I think they want to bring in the Cardano community that
Rare Evo brings to the table, right? Because we're all already here with our NFTs
and our fucking things in our wallets and shit. So they want us, but they want us on on some
of these other platforms, cross chain, right? Yeah, yo, come on, cross chain, let's go,
let's let's let's take it to these Cardano people because they know we're here.
Like it's it's kind of this interesting thing that I would love to talk about in a deeper sense,
maybe with somebody who who runs like a market, like the NFT markets, right?
But like just the the value in these in these collectibles and tokens, and there's a lot, man,
that we can go into. Yeah, but I'm so sad. I'm I'm missing it. I was even trying to like. What
if she's not here yet? She's not born yet. Maybe I can. Hey, it's only.
I just want to go to the the the beginning party. It's only a three hour three hour drive, right,
for you? It's like six hours. No. No, really? Maybe now, dude. I don't know.
I I maybe I'm thinking San Diego to Vegas. Yeah, I think that's like isn't that like three hours?
Four hours? Could be six. Could be six. You're right. Yeah. Well, I mean. You know,
you could you could carpool out with me, and then stay stay stay on stay on the line, right?
Be like, "Yo, babe, I'll come back whenever." And then she's like, "Yo, come back tonight." Boom,
hop on the plane, get back. Nah, nah, dude. I say I say just chill, man. Like,
have fun enjoying the experience of birth, which is long and complicated, and and. Man,
you're you're yeah, you're about to change your way of life. I really want to go though.
I had such a blast last last year when we went. We got to meet all these cool YouTubers too,
you know, and we got to hang out and party. And I was like, oh shit, I'm hanging out
with Two Chains. I'm hanging out with Coin Daily. I snuck into that Arctic Civet thing.
I met a bunch of cool people. I know it's like a non-Cardano thing, but it it felt like it.
A lot of people were Cardano heavy there last time, but I do expect it to be less people this time.
That's sort of why I want to go and see who's still there, and um, you know,
I want I'm gonna be here for I want to be here for the long run with Cardano.
I've never left Cardano. Yeah, it's right hard, so so I want to talk to Charles.
I would love to talk to Charles about some shit. Well, there are other ways. There are
other ways you can talk to Charles. You know, you know, if you were to join a certain community
called the Night Force. Then you would have access to Charles on a pretty regular basis.
He does like discords and stuff, and and invites people up to to chat. So literally,
you could have those conversations probably in a more private space. But it's streamed too, right?
So like, there's that portion of it. But anyway, yeah, man, you got to check that out.
And anybody who's interested in in midnight and development on midnight, or just what it is,
or how zk works, check it out, man. It complements Cardano beautifully. And yeah,
just being a holder of Night will allow Cardano businesses to offer solutions to people like
by holding Night and using Dust to power transactions. So it's I think it's a beautiful partnership.
I think it gives us like two really cool things that we needed on Cardano,
and I think it's keeping us relevant in a in a zero knowledge conversation.
Cardano comes up through midnight. So I love that, and when it comes to security and and you know
robust network design, shit, Cardano is there too. It's not, it's you know it gets attacked,
but it fucking tanks that shit, and then it just continues. It's self healing. Charles likes to say,
right? So. Those things are are just really cool to to have, man. Like the more time goes on,
the more that that we can tout that it becomes an interesting talking point to people
who love chains like Solana or that that have that like shut off ability, right?
Like reset the thing because we broke it. But Cardano moves a little slower, but when it transforms,
it's it's meaningful transformation, and it works. And that's really cool.
And as I was watching people onboard people yesterday, I realized shit, Cardano is right on par.
It just really is an island of on its own. So I think the chains or the products that bridge Cardano
with other products are the ones that I really want to be paying attention to right now.
Like some of these wallets that do integrate Cardano and other tokens.
I think like OKX wallet is one of those. I got to check some of these out, right?
But like I'm looking at these products, going okay, which are the ones that bring
Cardano tradability to the forefront? And allow us to access more of that community
that's going to come in from the outside, because there is interest, right?
Like we just have to bring it to the table. So I can speak more on on what I mean by that as far
as the dinner yesterday and the conversations that were had. But yeah, man, Rare Evo, I think.
You know, I'll definitely document it. I will check out the projects and the
and you know the different the different businesses that show up and see what's up. You know,
it's always nice to see what's building in the space. And and this one feels like Rare Evo
is evolving a little bit, and it'll be a little more maybe mature because because less people
kind of know each other too, right? So that's part of it. You have less familiarity is is not good
for those of us that really like our close community, but You know, I I think
it also it also doesn't allow people to party party party if they're not homies. So you know,
I'm going by myself basically this time around. Chili can't make it. Reiner can't make it.
I'm pretty sure Relic can't make it, but he's been like absent the space for a minute.
So I don't I don't you know I hope he's he's doing well. I think he's running his D and D games,
which sounds super fun. Maybe he'll come back and kind of tell us a little bit about it.
But in the meantime, it's a me and bad money just guiding the conversation and thinking about
where we are in the moment, what we're heading towards. And and yeah, dude,
all these things that that I really think we should still talk about as a community,
but we've kind of lost, maybe lost our way a little bit. Like just the AI took over, right?
People were were off. It's still taking over because it's doing so much. But anyway, I digress.
Yeah, yeah. I wish I could be there, at least for opening day, opening party day. See who came back.
I made some friends last time, so I just want to see if they would come back
and stuff like that too. But I had a lot of fun. I think you're gonna have fun.
Make sure it's documented, and maybe it's better if we're not there because you'll get to actually.
Network and connect with some peeps. Hopefully, yo, can I borrow can I borrow your camera? Yeah,
yeah. That means I'm gonna do face to face interviews with a bunch of people. Let's fucking go.
Nice. Like space lady down there, yo! Shout out space lady and chatterbox and box lord and dreams
and everybody else who is listening, who will be listening. Thank you for tapping back
into the ministry. We're still here. We're still running. 207 episodes. Yeah, dude.
This is I don't know. This is the crazy times. This is the slow times.
I'm just sort of trying to enjoy it. As crazy as that sounds, this is the the quiet time. Yeah.
I've been looking at the charts, and I still feel like there's a little bit more pain to come. But I
but like survive. But we're on a little bit of an uptrend, right? It seems like
kind of maybe hopeful in the in the near term. Yeah, I mean, Bitcoin's trying to make a run
for it right now. It's right at my some of my lines. Like, so if it goes a little bit further up,
it's kind of taking me out of my short. Oh snap! But at least I'll be in profit, so that's fine.
And then I'm gonna try to take another short at my line. But it's looking like it wants to pop;
it's not there yet. So I think it could still come back down tomorrow morning,
especially what's what's going on globally with Iran, and you know, it could be a big bombing
or something. That's why I'm confused why it's going up, but it's not really going up.
It's just they feel like dragging sideways. Yeah, they feel like fake outs. I mean,
and that's kind of why price action isn't isn't my favorite thing to talk about,
but like it is part of the larger conversation, so we have to. Kind of acknowledge
where opportunity is and and where it doesn't make sense, right? So if anything,
we're trying to say, if you are careful in this market, then you may end up better
than if you're going all in right now. Because you see, oh no, that's it.
We're about to rocket into the universe, to the moon. But no, there there might be
a little more pain coming in the near term. There's supposed to be lows well into September.
And that doesn't mean we can't do some fun community stuff, right? That's that's kind of
why I'm down. That the I'm I'm happy that the homie Maha is here in the space with us.
I have sent him an invite to join us, and yeah, he's one of the co-hosts,
creators of of the good company that we were at yesterday in San Diego downtown area.
That What is it called? I forgot the name of it, but anyway, the restaurant was was fire.
The food was fire. The whole the whole thing was just really cool. So I'm hoping he comes up
and we can chit chat. But welcome to the space. Welcome to Cardano Ministry. And yeah,
it was great meeting you yesterday. That's cool. I guess I missed it. Yeah, dude. I wish maybe.
Well, obviously, in the future, as we do more of these, hopefully, like we could definitely invite
the homies who didn't get to make it out to that one. Like, bring out some of your friends
that are starting to get interested in crypto. You know, bring in some more of that audience
that wants to talk about shared governance and policy and stuff like the the Clarity Act. Right,
we were supposed to do an event this week. With with stand with crypto California
that was talking about the Clarity Act, but we got we got a little bit busy
and and some other stuff got in the way. But you know we're kind of trying to spread awareness
of that too that you should go and vote, be aware of what's happening locally,
how your senators are voting, and and all that jazz, right? Like get involved in the conversation
because it's it's man it's civic duty here. You gotta you gotta take it to that level of I
want to be involved in something bigger than myself,
a big large community that I can shape in some ways, and I can I can leverage to the to the good.
We'll see if if he comes up, but anyway, man, yeah, it was great, dude. Maha is dope.
Everybody I met was fucking cool, and they're doing more of these across.
Maybe maybe once he comes up, if he comes up, we can pin the schedule to the top of the space
because they're doing a bunch of stops like for the next few months. So if you're like in Arizona,
if you're like in fucking Chicago, if you're in New York, they're gonna be making pit stops just
along the way. So. Anyway, yep. Shout out to you. Welcome to the space.
Welcome to the others that have joined us since. And yeah, man. So what are you thinking then?
So rare evil, you can't make it. But but would you be down to do? Would you be down to do like,
so like more fun, local, engaging events, right? You're kind of a of a great bouncing board
for these ideas because you have approached it from the lens of somebody like from the outside
who is joining a community, and then now like as part of the community,
you get to shape some of what we do too. So like. What do you think have have been some
of our successes locally, versus where what should we target next? Right, like the World Cup
watch party was fun, a little different. We did a karaoke thing that was fun. We did a hike,
you know, that was fun. Like there's certain things that we've that we've done
that have been successes, but I wonder, I wonder which of them from from the outside
do you think look fun versus which ones are kind of lame, and and just your your experience of it.
I mean, we have like a lot of crypto meetings for years now, and And mostly through the bear market,
a lot of them is just small. It's just familiar faces, right? A lot of people. It's just the same.
We just became friends now because we've been doing this for so long. But it's like, you know,
we've been through a bear. I remember the first meetups where, where we're still in a bull,
and a lot of people are showing up to these crazy like bar hops, right? Right.
Hundred of people were going from one bar to another here in San Diego. Dude, those crazy days.
Yeah, it was so fun. But that's all gone. Yeah. But I think we got to bring back the.
The the party back especially me now with this AI music I want to put on like I'm creating
this whole album that dude you could play this thing at a club it's gonna blow minds I was playing
a song at In and Out and there was two babies I was playing In and Out
but they were looking at me today I was blasting it in my car and this little kid walked with
his mom and he stopped and started dancing and shit Yesterday, dude, at my work,
and this lady from the other side from the other side came all the way to my side of the office.
Uh huh. And she's like, "What artist is this?" I was so I was so happy. That's me, girl. That's me.
I'm the artist. Shit, that's dude. That's good. That's good. Damn. Congrats on those successes.
I know. I know. I was arguing when the when the tech first came out. And this is why I love
that there's like recorded spaces that we can tap back into, where I I argued, bro,
that there would be an AI art wave, for music, for video, for all of it, right? Writing, poetry,
all of it. Like I I see every category as possibly disrupted by AI, not not disrupted in
a bad sense, but just it's a transformation of the art medium. Like it's a new art medium
for expressing anything that you want to express. So anyway, like I I I'm glad to see you now,
like bringing some of that to life. As a musician, you're making music. I love that, right? Like,
as as someone who really loves graphic art and visual design, like I'm making artwork, like my PFP
and a few like other artwork that I'm just making with AI and and and and AI bots and and tools,
etc. I think AI as an art form gives you access to all of those things. So, hell yeah, man!
Grats to you on that success. No, yeah. Well, I'm a musician myself, and at first,
I sort of had that negative, you know. I like when Drew told us goats shout out
goats first brought up his AI stove or whatever. I was like, I didn't even pay no attention to it.
Remember, you even asked me a couple times, like, "Yo, you make music? Why don't you jump on this?
" And I was just like, I don't know, because I heard a couple songs, but they were not that great.
Nothing really capture my attention. But at the same time, I know that in the future,
it's probably gonna be. You're probably gonna have your a wedding or something,
and the AI is gonna make the perfect song for you in that moment. You know. Yeah,
that's how crazy it's probably going to get. But now I've been pushing the limits,
and it's getting geek here. Where, where now I can break these tracks down by instrument.
I can get right to the hi hat. I can plug in my bass. I can more cowbell, please more cowbell. Yeah,
I can plug in my bass. I can plug in my guitar. I can plug in my keys. I can sing it a melody.
It can take my voice now, and it can. It's probably going to turn my voice into like a you know like
a character. Oh, that's dope. It just feels like I'm using a new instrument,
and now I have like a hundred songs. Like fifty of these songs are bangers, but.
There's all all sorts of like you know me. I like all kinds of music, so so I have
a whole reggae thing, I have a whole trap thing, a whole rap thing, a whole yeah metal thing,
and it's freaking crazy, dude. Some of this music is just so good, and I can now go in there
and make it even better now. Because sometimes it's a little weird, like you like. Well,
you you got it. You got to put it. You got to put it to the community test, right?
You got to put it out and let and let the people and the plays. Guide your thinking on like,
is this a good track? Like, I'm I'm sure people will blast a song that they vibe with.
So I want to listen to it, man. You should definitely put out the albums, mint the tokens,
and we can we can spread them out as we do meetups and stuff, right? Like
when we do the the the CIP, basically the the QR scan and receive tokens mechanism that Adam Dean
developed his his Ninja Tech. Yeah, dude, all that stuff is super cool that we can do on Cardano.
That's why hey, I'm missing Rare Evo. I want to talk to some people.
I would love to be just strictly like a blockchain AI artist or whatever, music composers.
You know what it feels like? Remember, remember those dudes in the orchestras? What are they called?
With the stick, the conductor. Yeah, the conductors, conduct, conductor, conductor, the maestro.
Yeah, that's what it feels like. What they at? I'm just conducting. You know,
I'm just like pushing it. Yeah, in a direction, and then it's kind of cool. Yeah, no,
I I couldn't agree more. I've I have experienced it in that way, and it's a choice
you make to see it. As something you can create, you know. With, I think
too often people kind of have put it to the side and not really experienced the positive side of it.
But anyway, it can be super fun. And I do see we got we got Maha up here as a speaker.
I want to I want to make sure that he he gets the mic and see if he is audible.
And welcome to this show, man. Thanks for accepting the late invite.
And definitely want to hear a little bit more about good company. What is? What's going on, guys?
How you doing tonight? Great, dude. It's it's a chill night. Chill night. Yeah, same over here, man.
It was last night. Was great. It was awesome to meet you know new people, new faces.
It's the whole point of it. And you know the other thing too is bringing new people into the space.
And Joey's wife actually started a new wallet and is participating. So mission accomplished. Yeah,
yeah. You know, and no, I think it's just it's what we're trying to do is just bring these people
together, especially. You know, San Diego, LA, like, there's a lot of stuff
that already kind of happens. It's not, we're not, I don't think we're doing as much here.
It's good. It's like, don't get me wrong, but the places like Scottsdale, Chicago, Boston,
these places don't get as many, you know, like huge crypto events. So it's really cool
to bring people together and see them be like, oh, I didn't know there's so many people
in this area, and you know, we're like minded and everything. So, yeah, man, no,
thank you for for joining, and then you know, obviously advocating hereafter. So. Yeah, no,
absolutely, dude, and and I I just loved the the super chill vibe of it all.
It was very much a let's have people just not even not even talk really about their projects, right?
There was some conversation, but it was more just getting to know each other's histories.
How we joined the space in general, like conversations that came very organically
because we were sharing a meal. Also, the food places that you guys are picking are are very much
by design, right? So it's like, well, if we're gonna do this, we're gonna go to
some amazing restaurants along the along the journey, which I have pinned to the top. So
if you're curious about the stops, there's a bunch there, and and you can reach out to Maha
if you're in the area for any of those. And and maybe there's a seat at the table.
I actually again have to thank Valerie for inviting me. I guess an RSV VP spot opened up,
and so I was able to go. She she told me and Chili about it. Chili is my my business partner
with DRMZ, but he couldn't go. He just had a baby. So him and his wife just had a baby,
and so I was I was but I was happy to make it. And and man, was it a good time, dude. It was like.
One of the most fun meetups that I've been to in a while. The food was like seriously, holy moly!
And and if that's the experience that people walk away with, they're still going to talk crypto.
They're still going to talk NFTs. We ended up looking at a few, including the one that
Mah has rocking as a PFP, and some of the projects that they have where you can join the community
by minting an NFT and and just kind of. Participate in everything that good companies
putting together, and already you know we could tell it's super fun and very educational, very very,
just good vibes and and good food and and good people. Shit, I'm in. Those Caesar Twinkies were
the thing I think to talk about, man. Those. Dude, is that? I'm very happy we ordered the last round
so I could taste one. So, but yeah, no, phenomenal pick. That's all you know. Mad Potter,
she's the one going around picking all these restaurants for us, and dude,
incredible at a you know hosting events and helping us out. So could not speak highly enough of her
and. Yeah, very very lucky that we have this team. You know, not just behind Frankie's,
behind Good Company. Like it's you know it's a much larger thing that we're trying to do here,
and Web three is allowed us to do so much. We want to advocate for it,
especially the better side of it, and try to beat some of the stigma I think
that's out there right now. Yeah, dude, and and I know we got to talk a little bit about just
of our our introduction to the space, but I would love to know more about.
I guess what what brought you into the community? What inspires you to travel?
And because it's a sacrifice, right? Like this is not. This is not easy to do. Traveling,
going here, going—I don't know if you're going to every single one of those stops. I imagine so.
And I go to every single dinner, so that is a full itinerary, right? That's a lot of traveling.
You know, you have to have a passion for something if you're going to commit that much time
to building Web three community. Is is kind of why we titled the space
that because we we do the same. You know, sometimes we get a ton of people in here, sometimes a few.
Sometimes we host meetups and we get tons of people, sometimes a few.
But we've just always aspired to have people walk away with something that feels organic and fun
and educational and. If we can get them to use the tag, even better, right? So,
we've partnered with with wallets and and small companies that allow us to do
some pretty magical stuff on Cardano. To be honest, like just seeing at what you can deliver with
with you know some QR codes into a wallet and how quickly you can have somebody onboarded into
the ecosystem. And and I know you were were mentioning OpenSea and how they they feel
just that awesome as well on the on the more ETH and and other more active chain sides, right?
Because Cardano is still a little bit of an island of itself. Unto itself, and our NFTs don't move,
unfortunately, as much as is required for OpenSea to want to integrate us. So, you know,
it's it's really about growing the NFT scene down the road, right? As there is this art movement
that comes back to blockchain and going back to the AI and artwork stuff that we were talking about
just a moment ago. I feel like that that that's there's these swings, right?
These pendulum swings where we had the NFT wave, and now we had an AI wave,
and then we had NFT AI waves, and there's there's been a lot of projects minting tokens
and AI related things, and I just foresee it swinging right back to NFTs,
and to be completely honest with you, I'm not even a holder yet, but I am considering buying some
of these NFTs. This this was like the right tone for me as far as what are NFTs supposed to do?
Like, what are NFTs supposed to be about? And it's like if it's about building community boots
on the ground, I'm there. Like that's exactly what what I love to do, and it's my passion too.
So yeah, I'm curious about your passion and where it came from, and and why why this approach
to the dinners and and all that, you know. Yeah, so I mean, a lot of it is just
that I've enjoyed Web3 for what it is. I think we and I talked about a bit at dinner too.
It's just the authentication part of it, and decentralization is not necessarily the the that factor
that brought me in all the way. But I think borderless finance and a few other factors, especially
early early days, I got into crypto like 2017. So those really brought me around to like loving what
I think Web3 is. And then as I got a little bit deeper and you know found NFTs
and it's all influenced by like a close cousin of mine too, who's like you know deeper in the space.
And so. All along the way, I was just like, this makes more sense for like
how people should function, even if there is friction right now.
Like it'll eventually become frictionless and it'll feel invisible and it will just make sense. So,
yeah, I just fell deeper and deeper in. Fortunately, I was you know laid off from a startup.
Like they, it was for good reasons. The startup had raised and they let go quite a bit
of the company. But I was in that, you know, and so I was kind of like, where do I go? You know,
I'd finished my degree and I'm trying to seek jobs, and I happen to just be in
quite a few NFT projects, and so. That led me to working for Three Landers,
where actually a lot of this spawned from, which is where I met Matt Potters
and I met even Fresh Out, who was there last night. You know, we all met at a very similar event
to this. It was a little bit bigger, a little more like a open. Like there was, you know, a bar
and you know, axe throwing, all the other weird stuff like that. Was more,
more a what do you call it? Reception style, if you want. You know, and so,
but it really gave me some of my best friends in the space. You know, some of the people
I love the most here. And so, with that. I went to an ape dinner not too long ago,
and that really kicked off the like. This should be bigger than just apes.
This should be like very inclusive. And apes have an incredible club. Like, don't get me wrong.
Like, what they do and how many people were there that have minted and are you know are still
in the project through all the ups and downs of it. It shows the strength of like what NFTs are
and what community is and how much deeper it goes behind the the JPEG itself. So.
That's when I was like, let's just do a dinner, and that has now spawned into I think we're that was
dinner number five, and we have twelve more on the the list here, so it'll be seventeen
within you know about like a six to seven month period or so, maybe even eight month period,
but it's that. I think a lot of us just really love what this space potentially can be
and what it's doing, and yeah, I think that I couldn't do it if I wasn't truly in love
with this space because you know right now it's primarily sponsored by Frankies
and everything that we do there, and it'd be great to find other sponsors
who want to start backing us up because we want to do this more. Like even Arizona,
they're starting to commit the quarterly through Stanley Crypto, and so we did their dinner
just a few months ago or a few weeks ago. I'm sorry. And yeah, they they see the vision.
They see that this smaller local movement is going to bring a lot more,
and it's more impactful than necessarily throwing these major events that cost you know fifty,
sixty, seventy thousand dollars, whatever they may be, and really not having that like same glow
when people go home. Like I think people leave these dinners and are like,
"This was just a good time. I really met good people, and I can understand why I want to be part
of this." And so even like Brandy, you know, making a wallet. And the dinner before this,
we were in Portland, and there was a woman there that was you know kind of hesitant to NFTs
and started to understand I think the tech a bit more and what. You know,
a non-fungible token can really be, and the fact that it it goes beyond the JPEG
and can eventually be, you know, credentials. It can be registrations.
It can be various types of ownerships and authentication that I think are much better
than probably what we have right now. So that's a lot of it. It is, yeah.
I my Trojan horse is this cute little frog and all the games and cartoons
and jokes that we have along the way on our X and you know soon to be socials elsewhere
like Instagram and stuff like that. But as well, it is much more complex,
and I think it's much more impactful to grander society than just hey,
here are these speculative financial assets you can purchase in 10K collections.
So that's part of my messaging too, making sure we're getting rid of the stigma. Right, right,
right. No, yeah, and and the artwork is cool. The the frogs have these cool gifts. They're animated.
It's like they're eating. They're eating things at a diner, and and the the other one that
you're rocking, the one the one there with the chicken with the fire eyes,
that's a different collection, right? And there's there's there's two collections. Yeah, correct.
So Frankie's that came around about three years ago. We minted that in March of '23.
I joined the team about maybe like eleven months after the initial mint,
and then we recently minted Nibbles this last March, like right around like the three-year
anniversary mark. And that's now our you know Frankie's is
only a thousand-piece animated collection, so our community was very small, like very very strong
but very small. So we knew that for reach on the timeline and to proliferate a bit more,
we needed you know a bigger brand, and so that came about Nibbles, which is
an eight thousand collection. There's eight characters, so there's
eleven hundred one thousand one hundred eleven of each. And yeah, the the cock you see here is one
of them, and we have a beaver and a ghost and a gecko and you know four other very cute characters.
A wolf is actually my favorite. I'm just temporarily rocking this for unforeseen reasons, but yeah,
there are some really cool characters that people seem to resonate with and build stories from,
which is you know part of what we want to see too. Is there's a lot of IP right ownership that
we want through this. The royalties are also a very big thing for us. Like we are huge advocates
of it. As I mentioned, you know, we it's more than Frankies. We have a parent company called
Lonely Lily, which is what good companies under. It's what Frankies is under.
What we do there is like migrations, and so we're really trying to make sure people have royalties
on, so they can do more in this space. Because, you know, yes, there was a lot of craziness in 21,
22, but as well, there was a lot of experimentation, a lot of like fun,
because I think people had the ability to just do more financially. So,
lots of these nuances of the space we're trying to bring back in the right ways,
and that's it's just it. We we are doing it through really fun mechanisms,
but we really do understand like the seriousness of what we're doing too. I love that,
and you know there are projects here on the Cardano side that have been trying to do something.
I wouldn't say similar because kind of popping up into different cities
and traveling being one of the main ideas. We have the homie chivalrous down there,
and and a few kind of vans that that they've purchased that they're taking kind of cross country
and moving to different locations. And you know I think I think part of the idea is
that along the way you would post up and you would network and you know mingle with local community.
And and do something that does reach those those sort of outskirts, the people who can't
who can't make it to the event, or the people who don't have a lot of things going on locally.
Just this caravan ecosystem that I think is really cool. So, you know,
maybe there's a partnership there somewhere where where it's you know good company
and and the the fleet. Of of the caravans that go to different places and and pop up
around the world and anyway I just love that Web three is that type of an ecosystem
where we can start to dream big together and and see how we can support each other
because I really don't have too much of a reason to leave the Cardano ecosystem in a general sense
to be honest with you but then a project like yours pops around and I'm like ah that's good
that's good I like that I like that a lot and that I really liked the community even more
and the fact that you guys are doing a whole tour is like man these these dudes are passionate
about community building. And so I know that you're my type of people. Like we grind,
like we work for it, and we and we build community, and we provide resources,
and we just try to give. And so our stake pull operation, for example,
is like I know I mentioned it yesterday a little bit, is is where we try to dream
what will be possible with the rewards once we you know get one to one of those points
where where we hit a price point. Where this small treasury of Ada becomes
worth a significant amount that we can actually make some moves with and start to do more more stuff
like local events that bring community together. So anyway, I would love to in the future do stuff
collaboratively. I know we talked a little bit about maybe Midnight potentially sponsoring one
of the dinners or figuring out how we can work together. But I was telling Razo here
that I I really liked. Everything about last night, the community man.
I wish everyone was more local, and that that was like the local crew that we could just hang out
with on a constant basis, because everybody really had their own stuff going on. Like it really was.
If you don't mind cutting you off, I'm so sorry, but. One of the things is like you know, like oh,
if it's something on the list that you see, you know, get involved. Like, get involved even
if it's not on the list. Like, we're trying to expand this to other chapters. So,
the more that we hear like a city say like, hey, we want people there,
like the more likely we are to pop up like a chapter in that area. So,
we have like six more that are already on that tentative list. So, please jump in
and you know advocate for an area that you want us to go to because if we hear that there's
more than like six or seven people, maybe ten people, whatever it is. We want to get you guys
together, and then as well, I think I mentioned at the table, we want this to be very nomadic.
If you're traveling, we want you to get in these other chapters and say, "Hey, I'm going to Vegas,
or I'm going to Portland, I'm going to Boston, whatever it is," and be able to find these people
and grab coffee, brunch, dinner, whatever it might be. Go to TCG events, whatever you're into,
collectible stuff. Like Nationals is coming, I want to see people use this for Nationals
and even Comic Con and all that stuff. So it's yeah,
much bigger than just these local locations at the moment, and that is a big part of that.
Sick. That's always the best part about crypto, in my opinion, is just community.
I think we all just took a little beating right now, but I think better days are ahead of us.
I think there's no way around it. I don't see how you can stop this. I don't see
how you can stop code. Like we know where this is going. It's just that these deals
need to be be made right before we're let we're let shine. I don't know.
It feels like they're trying to hold some projects back. I don't know what's going on.
I feel like a little bit more pain is coming. I even posted some of my BTC predictions
on the comments on some of my charts right there. But I think we're gonna survive. I think even
if Cardano does go down to like seven cents, Ethereum looks like it wants to come down to like
eight hundred bucks, XRP to like sixty-five cents. Either way, I feel like all these chains
need to protect our chains because yeah, they're gonna pass regulation.
That's exactly what they want to do. They want to hit these levels that I shown on the graph
because this is just what happens in in trading in finance, and you can see it not just in crypto.
This is where they broke they broke Facebook before they pumped it. They broke Google.
They broke these crazy levels that we're about to break in crypto right now,
and they're just below us. But again, I think there's better days ahead of us, man.
I think I don't know. This is exciting. I don't. I don't know exactly where we're going.
It seems like some people are fighting for power and all that, but you know, you can't stop code,
man. Well, and and just to kind of chime in on that and bring it back to to the dinner too,
you kind of get a sense of who you're riding with if if you're all showing up to the dinner table.
And kind of establishing that, and you know, we're building mainly on Cardano and Midnight,
and then the homie's mainly building on ETH, and maybe the homie over here is mainly building on,
you know, Bitcoin Ordinals, and it it's like, oh shit, we really could support each other.
This is like, you know, we we've reached a point where it really doesn't matter what chain you're on
because it's Web three versus Web two. Like, and they slapped all of us. Yeah, yeah, and and look,
Web two is winning. Let's not play games, right? Like, we're trying, we're trying really hard
to give Web two point five. We're almost there, right? NFTs as memberships. Right, and on that note,
Maha, I know you actually mentioned that we were gonna get an NFT for attending,
and I'm a super like nerd as far as the collecting stuff, so I have sent in my wallet.
I definitely want my my NFT collectible that says that I was at that dinner,
because that's that's just a great application of the technology, in my opinion.
And we like to nerd out and collect, so hell yeah, yeah, absolutely. We yeah,
it's just like just SBT. You know, we wanted to take the financial aspect out,
and I think like the days of Poap were really really fun, just to kind of show you were somewhere,
and you know, I. I've seen so often, even right now, it's really crazy.
There's like this phenomena of people paying influencers to act like they're somewhere,
and they'll take pictures of your account at like a concert or something, so like tries to show you.
It's really weird, but it's this like people want to be part of things,
and people will be dishonest about being part of things. Same reason they'll be dishonest
about buying fake luxury items, you know, trying to fake collections, stealing PFPs
like right click save. We see this with bot accounts or scam accounts.
There's a lot of reasons to want to fake things, and I think that the amount of ways we can say,
"Hey, this is real or true" via the blockchain is one of its most important aspects. And so,
to be able to say, "Hey, I was at a dinner," is maybe not the biggest deal right now,
but I think it's very fun for our little books to say this was something I did,
and then there's this like little artistic way of proving we were there. So, yeah, SBT inbound,
can't wait to send those out to you guys. Hell yeah! No, I couldn't agree more about the usefulness
of it, the way it brings this extra layer to it that people really like. It gamifies it,
and and for the collector minded who want to just acknowledge achievement,
I think it's a great technology that we have just begun to tap into. That we could certainly do more
with when we when we onboard and we educate people. You know, like a like a self leveling up system
that just as you onboard you're leveling up and you're kind of Actually, unlocking
real things like I would love to do, you know, partnerships with stable coins that allow
you to do sort of learn to earn scenarios, or or even projects that that it's like, hey,
what you unlocked was this dinner, right? You're you're invited to this dinner. Come
and hang out as you leveled up and you achieve certain things, as you you know collected the NFT
or transacted the NFT. Just making making sure that people are comfortable
with actually working with the technology, I think would take us very far as far as making it more
of a cultural shift. And and more people being aware of of what it means to be in crypto
and the deeper values, the deeper implications, certainly, but also the fun factor
and and how you can do things that that are a bit more financially free in this Web three space,
you know, prediction markets, etc. Just NFT markets, you know, meme coins,
like all of it is out there. And at the same time, there's also fundamental projects
that are really building. Community and these things, and so those really your job
becomes to sift through the noise and all the bullshit and find the real people. So,
what better place than the dinner table, right? Like where you can have an actual conversation,
and maybe you don't mesh with everybody, but but you do find the people again that you're in
the boat with, and that you know is steering towards we're all winning or we're all losing.
Hell yeah, man! Well, invite me next time, fuckers. I want an NFT. Well,
I'll have to add you to the the good company account. So, yeah. Yeah. Anybody else too?
If you're interested, just shoot a DM. Happy to add you guys in there and get you part of this.
Sick man. Well, I'm glad you're you're still here doing things. Always appreciate that. I mean,
like I said, all of crypto has been taking a shellacking, man. We're being slapped left
and right by by the same people that you know. It's the same people that have been hating crypto
all along, and it's just crazy that we have to wait on them to tell us how how we can crypto.
You know. Where crypto's good, where crypto's bad, it's kind of crazy. But again,
I think we all need an NFT that we were here before the big old green candle comes along. You know,
how do we get one of those? Big old green candle, sheesh! I don't know, man.
Got to move the market somehow. Psychology got to improve. We got to have so many dinners
and so much networking that everybody's just buy, buy, buy at the table. You know,
you know what's gonna happen though. Like in the future, let's say Ada's a hundred bucks
and Ethereum's like a million or something. They're gonna say that. Damn. Yeah, one hundred percent,
and it's a big gamble now, man. I remember, I believed, you know, Ada was going to three like back
to to three dollars and higher last cycle. And obviously, seeing it dump all the way down to like
fourteen cents has been very rough. But at the same time, we we go back to:
Do you have conviction in the community that you are a part of, or that you're building for
yourself? And shit, Ada has never let me down. Like, you know, I got I got to share with Maha some
of the the good things that Cardano and Midnight have given me. And you know,
hearing his stories too about yeah, this space has a lot to give. You just have to be
willing to seek the opportunity and take it. Sometimes reach right and sacrifice a little bit.
But I think it's worth it if you really want to be a part of this movement long term.
I think it's cool to, in my opinion, like infiltrate each other's communities
and and spread the good ideas for like, look, you can win here, and shit,
I'm happy to win here if if my homie's winning here too, you know. And that's I don't know,
I think that's the type of mentality that we really need for this next wave,
as as more people become curious, and and we can help them. Really figure out. Look,
which chain do you want to do what on? And it doesn't really matter that you like one or another.
But this one's good for this, right? This one's good for this. Like this one's good for this.
And and I think what's cool too is NFT projects that are on certain chains, right?
Like I've always wondered why they couldn't mint more of that same project on another chain,
you know, and grow the community. I guess maybe as we move away from more the more tribal space that
we were a part of. Maybe there is a call for that, and I'm not saying
that there hasn't been projects that have bridged between Cardano and and ETH, right?
Like shout out Angel Baby Hit Squad, like that's an old school project, OG project.
I don't think they're they're even around anymore. But anyway, just I love the idea of
of having maybe one NFT that's like on all chains, including Cardano, so it's not always an island
to itself. And yeah, maybe maybe it'll be somewhere in the good company partnership domain,
the partnership realm, where we can link up with with a good company and do some cool NFTs
on Cardano that we airdrop to people alongside the ETH ones that we're going to be receiving. Right?
It's just kind of one of those, what can you do with a native token on Cardano that's
a little bit different than a smart contract on Ethereum that might be a little different
than an NFT on on XRP or Solana or whatever. You know, there's just a lot that I know
I have to learn still too. And I think cross chain is just giving me more homework,
but but ultimately I you know I feel very safe on Cardano, so that's a big factor for me is is like
safety of the network, safety of the user, like keep scams scamability like hyper low as much
as possible, etc. You know, just kind of making sure that people know what they're doing.
That's 100% what we want. That's what I was trying to like. I I want to feel so inclusive
for everybody. I don't know how we'll do the extra NFTs there, but I'll definitely consider it.
But you know, that main net part of me is still there's still ETH Maxi at heart here somewhere.
But no, I think it's that I love to see that even like the open seat thing I was showing you guys is
the ability to just purchase things very easily is a huge step in the right direction. You know,
I want to see the sell to be just as easy. You know, that's a big, it's another big part of it.
Like I was saying at the dinner, I don't want to feel like people get trapped in this stuff.
But we're we're definitely heading towards the right direction on so many fronts.
And then the next part of that is education. You know, it's really all of us talking
and making sure the people around us understand. Hey, yeah, there was this really crazy time
of like crypto that allowed bad actors to step in and make a lot of money and and damage the space
and reputation of not only like Web three but of like I think what the grander vision was.
So I I think that this is where this starts. Is for one the the guest plus one is
such a massive factor. We really really want to see people that are so enthused with the space
bring a plus one to this. That is what we may call crypto curious or just a little bit on the edge
of like I hear about it. I want to know more. Like we we you know not to pat ourselves in the back,
but we think this is the right place for them to learn. Like it's so intimate and unintimidating
and I think it's not a place that people feel like foolish to ask a question because other people
are asking questions. Ready? How do you feel about this? What have you thought about that?
And I think that like we all have different opinions, just like we do here in spaces. But in person,
I think that like there aren't really many personas. You know, I think a lot of people put that
aside. There's no more PFP to hide behind. There's no microphone to hide behind, and that allows,
like you said, like there's no spoof anymore. You get to really feel these people
and their generosity or their genuineness across the table, and so. Yeah,
I do need to dip out for the night, but thank you for inviting me to this. And we,
I'd love to talk more, man. Seriously, I, I want not only midnight to be more part of this,
but if Katana, Cardano wants to be part of this more, in general, I just want to see
more communities understand this is here and be able to do this on a larger scale. And so,
thank you again to to everybody who listened and everybody who's gonna potentially sit at a table
with us in the future. Hell yeah, man! No, thank you for coming and and thank you
for just kind of sharing your experience and your time. And and again, it's. Yeah,
getting a little past the the maxi wars is good. I definitely understand having a preference, right,
for for the chain that's that's dear to your heart. I I really would love to see
more more camaraderie between Ethan Cardano personally, and so I love
that we're gonna keep chatting, keep kind of growing this thing out. And and I've had nothing
but good experiences with anyone who I've ever really kind of interacted with on any chain.
So I think I think a lot of that tribalism was mainly like in online spaces, right? In person,
people are very kind. Very supportive, and so that's really what what has kept me in the space.
So thank thank you for joining us, man. I'll let you go. Definitely, we'll we'll tap in, and yeah,
for those that are listening later on, man, check out Good Company. Check out those stops
that they'll be at, and and join if you can. And I see we got the homie Eric up here too. What up,
Eric? Hey brother, I saw you were still holding your space. I was just got home with my son
and was like, man, I got a chance to jump in here still. So I hadn't caught you in a while,
and yeah, I just wanted to say hi. And you were talking cross chain stuff.
I didn't catch the conversation before what guy just left was talking about.
But sounds like is he in that picture of you guys all sitting together at dinner? Yeah,
so he's responsible for putting that together along with. Basically, his like partner in
in that endeavor, they're all tagged in that post. If you want to check any of them out,
but and you should. I mean, they're they're honestly again good community,
good builders in Web three. And as you heard, there's a lot of overlap with some of the the things
that I know the caravan wanted to do, and and some of the onboarding that's like boots
on the ground type of thing. Maybe there's a way that y'all can like roll up to any of the stops
that they'll be doing because it really is a a cross country thing. Like
if you look at if you look at the list, it's Houston next 731. I know some of us will be at
Rare Evo, so that's probably not going to work. But then Austin, Texas, eight one. Back to San Jose,
California, eight eight. Chicago, Illinois, eight twenty two. Boston eight twenty nine, New York,
New York eight thirty one, Niagara Falls, New York nine twelve, Scottsdale, Arizona nine nineteen,
Seattle, Washington nine twenty six, Salt Lake City, Utah ten three, Las Vegas,
Nevada eleven fourteen, and then Miami, Florida twelve five. And so, like you said, man,
if anybody's interested in showing up, reach out to them. Maybe there is like a cross collab
that that can happen there between the caravans and these these specific stops,
which I think would be really cool to to. Make happen, bro. I got friends all over the place. Like
if we couldn't make it, I probably know people in almost all those cities that I've interacted with
since I last saw you and met in the last year or whatever that are in all these other cities now
and other chains and different things. And I gather that's a ETH project, but cross chain is okay.
And they they kind of at least want to see onboarding and crypto build in general,
like the rest of us or like most of us in here anyway. It looks similar to what you guys
do down there in San Diego when you have your meetups and do some do some teaching
and little courses for people to come watch and learn some stuff. So, you know, I love that stuff,
man. It's it's it's pretty wild. And you know, I do a lot of work with the Moons,
and it's a Cardano project. It's an old Cardano project, but. The mint's not rolling
like the founder wants, and so like trying to swap over to Solana because Solana just is
a better place to to sell your NFTs. It seems like the traction for NFT projects is bigger
over there, and so it's kind of the choice that was made in that. But it's you know.
Depending on your need and what you want to do with Web3 or your project or whatever,
depends on you know it can depend a lot on what chain the chain you really want to build on
because you know you got different reasons to build on different chains.
So I think the biggest reason why they're going to move to Seoul is because of
of the just the NFT community that's over there and the people that just buy the crap out
of those things for whatever reason. So with Cardano, it's tech and security and things like that.
It seems like which is You know, needed, and there's people that want to build on that kind of chain
and that stuff. So it's I don't know much about XRP and ETH and some of the other chains,
but you know, ETH is another one that I'm running into a lot of people that are either moving to ETH
or going to launch something on ETH soon because it's whatever served whatever purpose
they want to do with their collection or their project. So I'm all about it.
Like I just want to support the people if they're going to build and they want to build on some kind
of blockchain. Then to me, that's awesome and it's the future. And I want to be supportive of people
like that. Of course, you know. Upset with you, and I see Dan down there. I hope Angie's around
and listening. It's especially you couples. I know your wife comes to events with you, Rod,
and you know it's a it's a cool thing, man, to see. Yeah, dude, she's she's not gonna make Rare Evo
this time. So I'm flying completely solo. The whole crew is basically not able to make it.
So I'm like, Razo's having a baby. His him and his girl having a baby that week, basically,
so he can't make it. So I'm glad that you'll be there. I'm glad that that others that I know in
the space will be there. But you know, kind of, kind of, it'll be it'll be cool
when we can all get together again and and all just you know vibe the way that we did in the past
and in brighter days with greener candles. Yeah, last year was pretty awesome. And now,
did you get your booth for free? Did you were once they said they're giving out free booths,
you're like, well, hell, I'm getting a booth. No, you know, I I honestly thought about it.
We we we didn't go that route. Like I. I wasn't sure who was going to be able to make it,
so so I really wouldn't have had anybody to like man the table either when I wasn't there.
So I was like, you know, I'm just going to go and and try to network and and mingle with people
and catch up. But but I I'm going to take it more more chill, more, you know, I I I got um.
I got a VIP pass, so I'll check out the parties and I'll do the dinners or the the meals,
and maybe maybe sitting down there with people is where where I can have
more conversations that lead to more growth for DRMZ. Which you know, as you explore cross chain,
right? Building Web three community now on Solana after launching that Cardano project,
and now sort of having right this decision to move. I think. I think that speaks to the way that
this ecosystem is evolving, and and maybe something doesn't catch fire somewhere,
but it will catch it somewhere else, or maybe some ideas go cross chain
and will draw interest from everybody. So why why not have an NFT that you can buy with
Cardano as well as everything else? Because everything else is usually included.
They're all very connected, and Cardano is kind of a little island unto itself,
which is is good in in some ways, right? It makes us feel very safe about our chain
and and and all that jazz. But yeah, then it's not maybe as as fast as some people would need
it to be or or whatever. There's a lot of different. Reasons that there's
different successes in different blockchains, but but the long-term value is there. So you know,
for someone for someone like us with a stake pool, long-term vested interest,
like running a show where we try to bring community together, doing IRL stuff on the ground,
like it's very clear what I think our actions speak for themselves. And and man,
I'm just so happy that we continue to mint blocks. We got two blocks this epoch,
and you know we we haven't quite grown as fast or as as a big as as I think we should
or that I would want us to, but All things in due time. I'm not. I'm not even in a rush. I um.
I had stake to your pool, and then I had other wallets that were stake to other pools,
and then somewhere in there, I put a bunch of stuff together. And for whatever reason,
it's not showing the same stake because I moved handles and all kinds of stuff. And I went to go.
I noticed that it wasn't on your pool, and I went to go add it today, and it would say it said
that I wouldn't earn any rewards from your. From your pool, and I, I was like, well, I mean,
I don't really earn a lot of rewards. Like I'm three eight a lifetime rewards
or something like that in three years. So the rewards for me, and I don't contribute a lot
to the pool, but you know, I would contribute what I have to yours because I know you
and I know what you do with your pool and that kind of thing. But I was just curious if you knew
why it would show that I wouldn't earn anything. I saw where you just minute blocks and. All that,
so yeah, it's it's as far as I know, it's based on percentages. So because on a on an average,
you we wouldn't mint blocks every single epoch, right? There's there's stake pools that are
very saturated, that are pulling like 65 blocks right in one epoch. You're like, holy shit,
we were lucky to get two. So, it's it's really a raw percentage situation.
What I do like about Ouroboros, though, and this is where kind of looking at the white papers
or having access to them is good, because you can go and like vet this or ask AI or whatever.
But it tries to average out the rewards, so that even though you don't mint as often.
When you do mint, then the pool's APY average, right? I think right now rewards are somewhere down
in like the three percent, two percent sometimes. When whenever we pull a block,
if you look at the percentage averages, we're pulling like eight, nine,
ten percent for that one block, because they end up trying to average it out for the year,
so that it kind of settles at three to four percent APY for the year. So we don't mint as often,
but when we do mint, the kind of it sort of overproduces to to help you as a smaller pool.
That's that's how I've understood it. And I've seen, you know, I've held myself.
I have wallets delegated to other pools too. You know, I've done like the is
the the staking coin offerings and all that. And and so yeah, I see that sometimes it varies.
I've delegated to larger pools. I've delegated to smaller pools. At the end of the day,
I just ended up delegating all of my wallets to to DRMZ because I was like, you know,
if I can give even just one percentage bump, it it makes a difference.
Like you end up hitting now we're hitting two blocks every month or so instead of just one.
And we haven't really grown too much in delegation. I think that might be because many pools
have shut down. Many pools maybe are retired or just not. You know they're
they're ceasing operations. The ecosystem has been harsh, like Razo said,
and we're in for another whiplash, more possibly, well into September.
So I'm you know I'm I'm thinking there may be more opportunities to get
more ADA on the cheap because that's all I think about when I see these lows.
It's I want that stake pool saturated, and if it has to just be me, like just fucking buying
all the ADA myself, fuck it. Like I I committed to that. I want that. I would love nothing more than
for all our delegates to just look at their fucking wallet and be like, "Oh my god,
we're getting so many rewards, and we're getting all these dope events and fucking parties,
and you know, we're going to dinners and shit. Like we're just doing all this fun stuff.
That's the dream. Like that's that's what it is. And then you educate people, of course,
and and you teach them TA, like Razo is is teaching himself and is now sort of guiding us
to learn it a bit more. And there's just a lot that I I think. Still needs to pop off
and become cool in this space. Everybody wants it, right? Everybody always says
education's the number one thing that they need, but then do they put, you know,
their their efforts behind growing education? Like, nope. So, you know,
we're doing our our things our way. But, dude, I I almost think it's so unfair that. Like,
don't get me wrong. Like, having a career that I I I am a part of and that I love keeps food
on the table, and like I I still enjoy it and all that. But then I think, damn,
I can only give this like half of my effort, like because I have to give that other thing
maybe more, maybe maybe sixty seventy percent. I I was like, I can only give this thirty percent,
and really, you know, I have kids and shit too, and my wife. So I'm like, actually,
I can only give this. Ten percent, no, and and with with that small percent, man,
we fucking move mountains. I I've seen us do some crazy shit that I'm like,
how the fuck did we pull that off? How the fuck did we pull that off? And we're just gonna keep
it going, man. So, shout out to all of you guys that are still part of the community
and that are out there grinding, doing your thing. We're still here. We're still kicking.
We're not going anywhere. We're gonna endure and and change the system. Razo knows it.
We're gonna change the system. Mitch knows it. We're gonna change the system. Fucking Eric
and Chivalrous and Space Lady know this. OTB, Alan, you know this. Hell yeah,
I fucking love you guys. I told Razo we would do about eight to nine, maybe like an hour
or so of the show. We did get the conversation in that I really wanted to with with good company,
and and I do think that they're worth kind of taking a look at. I don't know if there's
any other topics that y'all want to discuss or anything that you guys want to talk about here
as we exit at the nine thirty mark. But yeah, I'll pass the mic. I'll just say. Up
until I tried to go to see Chad in New Mexico this weekend and deliver his stickers
and have my vehicle breakdown on me halfway there, I was very certain that I was coming to Vegas.
And at this point, I'm very uncertain. So hopefully, I can still work it out.
But I got a week to do it, and right now I got a truck that needs a transmission,
and I was already like, I don't know how I'm going to pay for the fuel and the lodging and the food
and shit while I'm there. But I'm gonna still try to find a way between now and next weekend,
and if I can work something out, then I'll definitely be looking for you. If not, man,
I'll have to get it. I'll before the year's out, I'll have this thing back up and going,
and I'll just drive out to where you guys are because I need to come see Dan and Angie,
and I don't know if they're coming. And it'd be cool to see Drew. I don't know if he's going to
Vegas, so. And Kristen, I could get up there too. I got some people I'd like to see up your way, so
and a bunch of people out east and whatnot that I would love to go see before the year was out.
So one way or the other, I'm going to try to be make it out of Oklahoma in this rig that I got,
or some kind of rig that I got, and get to some things and see some new people and.
Get some fellowship in, but I appreciate you, Rod, and letting me come up.
And definitely for all you do in the space and grinding. We had some saloon people
that were trying to talk us into moving the moving the project over, and they're like,
"You guys just don't have anybody doing spaces, and you're never around,
and nobody's doing anything." And blah blah. I'm like, man. There's people around.
There's a lot of builders on this chain, and there's a lot of homies that have been here doing
the damn thing for a long time, and you're definitely one of them. Dan,
Nancy's definitely a couple of them. Kristen, I don't know how long she's been around,
but she's been around quite a while. So, and it's you know, we, our kind of people are what
I think is going to bring the new, like you said, come out on the other side
and bring bring the changes. And Cardano talking about all this marketing, and we need to market,
we need more transactions, and blah blah blah. But then it's like. You go look for Cardano people
in spaces, and they're kind of hard to find. And finding out about projects over here doing anything
is kind of hard to find. So, the more we talk about it, the more people do it.
I know there's a ton of builders here. I know there's good NFT projects. I know there's good,
you know, security projects and all the things. Man, everything that's out there to be had on
blockchain is on this chain. So, the more we talk about it and get out there and put our faces
and our boots on the ground and all the things, at least in the Twitter space, you know,
they just They just want to see stuff every once in a while, so I definitely try to tag you
whenever I'm talking to those people and make sure they know where some good Cardano people live
and that are actually doing something productive and that kind of stuff. So, and you know,
the meetup I talk about the caravan and you know just those meetups in general all the time.
So that's the way to do it, man. When you can talk to people face to face and you just have
regular conversations, and next thing you know, they're opening up a wallet
and just buying some crypto and trying to learn some stuff. So. Keep the interest peak.
Keep keep providing it, not shoving it in the faces, but you know, putting it out there to be seen,
and being kind to people, and trying to know and answer as many good questions as you can.
I think we're gonna freaking get somewhere at some point. And Ada's super cheap right now,
so if Melting Moons moves to Solana and I take any kind of profits or pay
or anything out of that project, I can promise you it's gonna be going back to my Ada. So.
We're going to find ways to to keep that project, you know, tied in with ADO,
where people maybe can collect ADO rewards, or maybe you get some kind of NFT on ADO that, you know,
if you mint or sell, you get something or whatever. We'll we'll keep them tied together. Stablecoin,
yeah, stablecoin lending that pays you in ADO is is pretty juicy. So I think I think that's a way
of kind of stick staying in the ecosystem, but also kind of allowing yourself an off ramp
since you can't transfer USDC to other chains. And we'll have Moon Token,
and I'm not sure if he's planning on launching it on Solana too, or if he's going to keep it
on Cardano, but or if he'll try to do, you know, multiple chains with it. I know Panic did Solana
and Cardano with Turtle for a while, and so I know it can be done. It may be that,
like maybe we just have an LP that's Cardano Moon Token, or and we're matching it with ADA,
and that's you know profits from the project go into adding to that, and then we can pay holders
back in that. But we we've already said that we'll pay out in Bitcoin or USDT or USDC or ETH or SOL
or ADA or whatever it takes, you know, because you know these days you can pay people in whatever
you want to pay them in, or whatever they want to get paid in, or you can.
Pay them in something that they can easily convert to whatever they want it to be in. So,
I think that's going to get easier and easier as projects build and more people get together
and collab on things. Especially if they're cross chain people, it's like, yeah,
that's really hard to do on Cardano. And like, well, over here on this chain, like we figured out
how to swap your Cardano straight to this, or you know, whatever the case may be, vice versa. Right.
I know, like Viper Swap is doing a lot of cool things where it's making cross chain
swapping very easy and all decentralized and So I mean, there's people out there doing stuff
like that more and more and more, and I think we're all going to benefit. These early people,
I still think we're all early. The more I go out and talk to people, and they know nothing,
I'm just like, man, right? Yeah, yo, yo, shout shout out Viper Viper as well.
Just that whole community, I know, has been CTOed or community taken over,
and and they've they've gone through a lot of iterations, but I have a special place in my heart
for that project because I, I, I won pretty big with that project just early on. Like I, I was like,
yo, this project has the same tokenomics as Snake, and honestly, I think this Snake this Snake
goes harder. Um, it was like the cool brother to the to the original Snake, and um, no,
I I ended up just kind of putting some Ada in, and it it inflated crazy,
and like I I took out my principal, and I I played it very responsible. Was like,
I'm not trying to nuke this token. I just want to, you know, kind of. Get out what I put in and then
and then play, you know. And and bro, I I bought like the NFTs they had,
and and I I ended up uh um just holding on to it, and I'm still up on that bag.
That's just the moon bag that I'm like, yo, this team to the moon, let's go,
because I got way more viper than I do snick. Well, I talked to Jinx, and I don't talk to him,
but I talked to him some, but I listened to him a lot in those dong spaces. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's in there a lot, and and moons. We had him on space, and he was a guest,
and talking about the projects and stuff. And yeah, man, they we because we deal with
so many other chains, we suggested them to go to Viper all the time because swaps are so easy
over there and cheap, and and you can do Fiat stuff and all kinds of stuff over there.
So definitely shout out to them for building what they're building. And one of my Oklahoma homies
actually turned me on to them a long time ago, and I got to meet him in Vegas last year.
And some of you guys, you guys probably had him. He had a big old long beard like mine,
a little small guy like me. Dude, why me? Is him, but he he managed to come out,
and he's still big into them. And I hope they moon, and you guys get make keep making out on that.
That's those bags, man. Yeah, I got one of their NFTs, and that's it. But dude,
I I ended up going like super degenerate. I think I got like ten of them when they first came out.
I just was like, no, we're doing this, and I don't think they have much. They don't have
much value now, right? Those those NFTs. I think if you have if you still have ten,
like you need to go check because on the Swapper on the website, uh huh. Like you get you get
good discounts the more you hold, and I think ten is like a max or something. You get like. Uh huh.
Twenty percent off your fees or something. I mean, you get like a pretty good discount on your fees.
The more of them that you have, and you can hold one. Like I could be getting discounts,
but I think you may have to go in and like stake them or show that they're connected
or something like that. You know, and make sure that you're using something that sees those
when you make your exchanges. And I'm fairly certain that you get some pretty good discounts
on them. So interesting. I just saw a post for it like in the last day or two,
and I don't know if they just added it. But oh, oh, but you're you're you're talking about
the Vipirians, right? Yes, you got different ones than those. No, I I do have some of those too,
but no, I was talking about like OG Viper was just the the token PFP, let's say, right?
That minted as as NFTs, so that was like an old school NFT that I still I still hold that.
I do have a few Viperians. I really I really like the artwork, and I believe I know the artist.
Is it fuck? What's his name? That I might not know. He's done. Say it. I might be able to tell you.
I feel like he's he's done some stuff with with us. I think he he did a Chili's frog NFT,
the the keikias maximus artwork. Oh, they do look just like those frogs. Yeah.
That's Chili's bunking. I think right is that him. I think so. Anyway, that name sounds familiar,
but I don't know all the artists on the chain. So yeah, I think that's. But anyway, they're dope.
They're dope or something. Yeah, they're super dope. Oh, I see what you're saying.
If if you hold five Vipirians, you get fifty percent off. You own one Vyperian,
you get a base rate standard fee for a trade the size of a of ten thousand ADA. So, like,
if I wanted to move fifty thousand ADA with one Viperian, it looks like five hundred standard fee,
which means two fifty for fifty percent off. And like you said, if you hold ten Viperians,
then only two ADA to move all of that. That's interesting. That's substantial if you have that kind
of ADA. Yeah, yeah. I definitely knew I saw where you got some pretty good discounts,
and you didn't have to hold a whole bunch of them, and and you might check the floors too,
depending on how many you have, because I want to say the floors are probably going up as well. So.
Yeah, and and I I think their problem was they minted at a time
where people were kind of moving past the NFTs, and and the price point I think was a little high
because because then ADA took a fucking dive. And then people were like, "Well, I'm not buying,
you know, a 200 ADA mint." And so now they're, they're. I think they're still minting for 65, right?
Is that is that the mint price? I don't even know if they're still minting,
but what it originally was. But it seems like it was like 100 ADA at the time, and like I said,
it was 60 cents or something like that. So yeah, they're they're minting.
You can mint on their site. They still have. So they've minted 3,190. And you can still mint
one thousand five hundred eighty-seven, and the mint price is one hundred twenty-one,
which looks like twenty bucks USD is is what it says. So, yeah, yeah. So one hundred twenty-one ADA,
or you could go to way up, and I think they're going for forty. I think that's not bad these days.
Any anything above twenty is pretty decent in the marketplace right now for ADA. It seems like yeah,
and and I know Snacky's made it all the way up to two fifty. So I see a situation
where where Viperians. Could could be a hit on Cardano. Like the artwork is great.
I I genuinely like it. I I've already you know obviously full transparency.
Like I'm a holder of the of the token, but I I just I like shouting them out because they're
just they've just been working, man. They've been building. They've been putting out Viper Swap
and and you know just changing their artwork. They updated the artwork to the project.
They made the Viperians. There's a lot that I see them putting in, so I I respect it. But yeah,
it looks like Vipirians on the site are going for forty. Oh, dude, what forty?
That's that's that's a fraction of uh. Yeah, third. Am I about to buy one? Am I about to buy one?
Shit. Do you even look to see how many you had already? I think I have like seven. Let me see. I'm,
I'm telling you, bro. I degenerate. Like sometimes I'm like, you need to go mint some moon girls
before we swap to Soul because they're going to be cheaper right now than they are when they go to
Soul. And eventually, we're, we're going to be able to pay some people some payouts on those things.
Is it only the? Is it only the the girls that are moving to Solana? No, they're moving the girls,
the boys, the diamond passes. I'm not sure about the spacesuits because the spacesuits
are going to be like gamified, and we're getting ready to launch a different set.
So we were already going to be burning those for new ones because we don't control the policy on it.
Same with the boys, we don't control the policy for it. So, like right now, when people scoop boys,
we get like one for every five that get scooped. Might be one that we get paid.
Like it got scooped before, and now if it gets sold again, then we make money off of it.
But if it gets off the old policy one time, then the old guy still gets paid for it. The girls,
we get paid directly for those. Well, Eric, I I blame you for me degenerating into another NFT
just now. So I hope you know that. I hope you know that I just spent. I have spent
forty ADA getting. Yeah, the one that was on the floor because it had. So I have eight now,
by the way. Nice. So I'm getting close to the ten. Another eight ADA, brother,
and you can get that ten. Yeah. I might as I might as well move in the direction.
That'll pay for itself in one transaction. Yeah, I'm not moving like you know hundreds of ADA
at any moment, but but I just you know I'm a collector, man. I it comes down back it comes back
to that. So I see that that this one is the prison realm. To me, it looked like Voldemort,
like it was like the Voldemort edition, and and he's got these like fire rock eyes that look
really cool. He looks like a villain, basically. So yeah, man, I I have some my eight ones look
really good. To be honest, I've been very selective about my choices here of Vipirians, and dude,
they're they're they look good. I like them. I can't remember where I got mine,
but somebody sent it to me. I can't remember if it was Jinx or one of those Dong
or one of those guys in there, but somebody sent it to me not too long ago, so I've got one that's.
I just hold it, and like I said, I don't move enough data around and make swaps enough that yeah,
discount makes a difference to me. But I like the art, and I used to have one of those frogs,
and that makes me sad because I sold it a while back, like a year ago or more,
and I guess I didn't realize that was Chili's frog, so that makes me sad. Oh, the the kekius one,
yeah. So so he he made one. We're gonna we're gonna end up dropping it.
And and actually like releasing it to the community and stuff in the near future, but yeah,
it was just kind of a fun mint. He made the token. It was kind of like a fun experiment on his part,
like what it would mean to run a project. And then he got super busy. So,
but now I think he wants to come come and give it a little bit more time
and and actually try to see if you know how do I build community? Like
how do I get people excited about NFTs? And you know everybody who's on that mission is
is essentially doing similar stuff. So I love that we get to work together and collaborate
and stuff. Yeah, I like I like building with anybody that wants to get out here
and try to do something in the space, man. It's if they aren't trying to rip people off, you know,
if they really want to put out some art or do some onboarding or learn some coding or how to build,
you know, be a dev or any of that stuff. That's if you're gonna build.
Or I run into a lot of people that want to help animals. Yeah, cat fundraising and dog fundraising
and things like that for shelters and saving whales and turtles and all those things. So, you know,
like. Yeah, Rosa wants to do like insurance and stuff that that helps people,
and there's a lot of things that we can like look into and and and really
that that benefit the community for sure. Yeah, there's so I mean, you could hold
community treasuries that like people could use to build their thing,
and you know the community boats. Let's give this much money, like your own catalyst.
You know what I mean? Yep. Yeah, one hundred percent. Which would be way better than the one
we have right now. Yeah, at least we'd be a bit in more control, right?
Little tiny city catalysts on Cardano. Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I I wanna I wanna respect
everybody's time, and it's been a pleasure chatting with you, Eric Razo,
everybody who kind of showed up and and listen, man, we love you guys.
We'll definitely be back next week. You know, I kind of liked doing the AMA thing here
with the project, so maybe I'll invite more people to chat about what they're building,
and and if people know that this is a recurring space, I think we'll start to get more more traction
again. I know I know it kind of dwindled in the In the bottoms of the the bloody bear,
but I think we can come out the other side with some sound TA, some good education,
and some good community building, and really Web3 community building is what we're here to do.
So much love to you guys. Let me pass the mic here to Raza so he can say his farewell.
And much love, Mitch. I know you didn't get a chance to come up and chat, dude,
but we should hop on a call and talk some ideas. Same thing, Chivalrous man. We got it.
We got to chat. We got to make sure we tap in. And let me let me pass it to Raza. No, just jealous.
You get to go to Rare Evil. Have fun, man. Yeah, I will. I will have some fun.
Probably not as much fun as is if you guys were all there. But I also have a little homework to do.
I have to work at the at the Cardano Foundation booth for for a few hours because I'm I'm going as
a Cardano ambassador to this one. So it'll be kind of cool. Just you know, roll through,
check us out. I don't know if if Chivalrous you're going to be going to the event. I hope I hope you
and Angr. And if you guys are man, let's let's definitely hang and and do the thing because I'm.
I'm gonna be flying solo. Maybe Space Lady and I will be hanging out. We'll see.
Maybe maybe she'll let me tag along with her crew. I don't know who's going with who,
but I'll be I'll be at the smoking lounge. You know it. That's where we all mingle and network.
That's how you know who's who's the OGs, right? Anybody who's out in that balcony is like, yep,
that's where we go. That's where we go. And I hate
that we won't see as much like you know Cardano focus. But I love that we will have
a more cross-chain focus, and you know, shout out to our friends Polly on V Chain
and other friends that we've made here on the XRP side. There's just a lot that, man,
I really love about where we're going in the space. So, I see, I see, we got Space Lady up here.
I want to pass her the mic. Welcome, welcome to the space. I know you've been here for a minute
listening to us. We always appreciate having you, and I think you may have a little something for us
if I'm not mistaken. Well, you know, I've got a chant for you. I would love to provide it
whenever it is appropriate. Oh, I love it absolutely. Please do, and and and you all know
how it goes, and just you know,
repeat Cardano after the initiating portion. So, thank you, Space Lady. Yeah, floor is yours.
Blessed are we, the devotees of the Ada Ministry. Cardano.
Ah, Ireland, no, haha, France, yeah, let's go. I love it. I love it. Thank you for that.
That that sets the tone for going into the world with good vibes, and that's that was awesome, sis.
Yeah, definitely appreciate it. Thank you, space lady, and man, we we we need a good chant. Yeah,
we need some good in person stuff too. We gotta hit up Relic and get to the farm
again sometime soon. Yeah, definitely, and and will you be at Rare Evo? Yes, sir. You let's go.
Yeah, hell yeah, that's great news. Yeah, I'm looking forward to to you know mingling
while we're out there, and definitely let's I don't know let's form a a group for like a cool dinner
or something. Like let's have a our communities come together. Anybody who who doesn't have
a community who's there kind of solo can kind of join this this growing group.
I would love nothing more than to make people feel very welcome, and I know there's going to be
a lot of newbies because they're going to be from different you know chains
and kind of interesting to be there as they just get to network with each other.
Maybe serve as like the glue that brings them together. Yeah, I love that concept of good company
that we were talking about earlier. I think that's cool. I'm with that. Yes, and honestly,
like let's be real. Like, I I fucking love the idea of having just nice dinners. So it was like,
wait a minute, like you can be sponsored for that? Like what? That's awesome. And and obviously,
it takes some some creative marketing, and it and it is a sacrifice, like we said, right?
Traveling to all these places. But if you can get a sponsor, and if there is a value
that that's seen there, man, it's it's super fun to just network with new people,
and you really never know where you're gonna meet your next co-founder or business partner
or somebody that you can build something in the space with. So you know, I say get out there,
network, mingle, host a meetup. You know, get get your boots on round, go
and check out a new wallet that you haven't checked out. Right,
like I've I've been trying new tools. I recommend that people do the same.
I'm all for it. Looking forward to seeing people there. Cool. Yeah, I I love it.
I hope Eric can make it. I hope Chivalrous can make it. I hope anybody who's listening in,
I hope you're there. And if you are, come and find me. I'm I will be very easy to find.
And let's let's hang. Let's definitely see how we can build the next phase together.
There's a lot of work needs to be done. Shit, let's do it. All right, everybody.
You have a good night. Thank you guys for coming. I don't know if this was a better time
for the ministry. We did like a little bit earlier the original time. 6:30 still works for for me.
I think it still works for Razo in general. But anyway, we're gauging what what people respond to
best, and we've got other content that we're thinking about putting out.
So keep an eye out for some YouTube stuff. If you check out Razo's Bad Money channel,
you'll see a lot of his TA and his breakdowns. And I'll be putting up some stuff
on the DRMZ YouTube as well. Well, all right. Much love, everybody. Peace. Appreciate you, brother.
