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Crypto Front Lines EP. 8
Recorded: Jan. 8, 2026 Duration: 1:09:39Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, the resignation of key developers from the Electric Coin Company has raised concerns about the future of Zcash, leading to significant price fluctuations. Meanwhile, Edge Wallet is actively expanding its community through an Ambassador Program, aiming to enhance user engagement and global outreach.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Hello. Hello?
Hey, what's up?
What's going on?
Let me close some stuff.
I got all this shit open.
One sec.
All right.
So we got a few people.
Give it another couple seconds.
Make sure Alberto's with us.
Yeah, I'm here.
I'm not being an active contributor to the conversation today.
Yeah, I'll be hanging out. Let me know uh all right cool yeah feel free to chime in i'm the co-host
all right so we're at crypto front lines eight right um you know uh if you haven't
been here before we were doing video we pivoted to um spaces just for community participation we do
a lot of podcasts and things like that.
So it's like kind of at this point where let's hear from the community, you know, front lines on both sides.
RJ's QA, that's who I'm with, and Alberto's support.
And we're the front lines at Edge, and you guys are kind of the front lines for us, right?
So that's the name.
That's why we pivoted to a spaces um so
i'll do an actual proper introduction i'm rambling sorry i was opening stuff
front lines episode eight i'm michael uh head of the support team i'm joined by rj who's head of
the qa and alberto who is a wonderful support agent where he contributes to qa and in marketing
the hats this guy wears yeah many hats that's how we roll yeah this is true this is true
behind the scenes i do a lot too i mean we all do um so kind of uh give a heads up what edge is if you guys aren't aware. Does anyone else want to take that
because otherwise I'm going to be rambling forever. Yeah, we're DeFi crypto wallet since
2014. We used to be AirBits. We ran it to Edge around 2017, I believe. So yeah, it's been a while.
But yeah, DeFi wallet. Yep so and we have a bunch of exchanges me
personally i'm a huge on um you know decentralizer d5 exchanges which we're adding more and more and
more i'm a huge user of like thor chain for example so you can actually exchange anonymously and don't have to use um no deal changes sorry uh so usually i do an announcement section i've reviewed our change
log so unless i'm missing something the only thing that i have to announce is ufos are re-enabled
happy new year guys yeah we just had like small small update small fixes for less update yeah
yeah usually there's like a list of stuff
but like i was looking at it's like well i don't know if you know people listening to this are
going to care about sliders and this shit like i'm reading like important stuff don't get me wrong
but it's like well ufo that's really it yeah but admittedly uh during the holiday season we do slow
down a lot.
There's a lot of time off and things like that.
So that's part of the contributing factor.
We do have some big stuff coming, I will say that.
And you'll hear about it on X and do the change log and updates and things like that.
So let me start with, we are going to go over the Zcash thing that happened today. It kind of derailed what I wanted to talk about.
I was going to do like New Year's resolution stuff, blah, blah, blah.
But honestly, the Zcash news is a little too much to skip.
So I do want to go over that.
Just so you know, if you want to talk, this is very much an open forum.
So raise your hand.
We'll get you talking.
If the conversation derails even from what we start with, totally cool.
I welcome the chaos.
I think we all do.
So just so you're aware.
Just so you know, if you want to talk, I'm just...
So with that said, if you're not aware of what happened with Zcash today,
the ECC, so electric coin company devs, resigned today, which caused a huge price movement.
I think it was 20% or more or something of that nature.
Yeah, I got to like...
There's a lot of static over there, Alberto.
Yeah, I think it's my yeah my the uh my my
might unplug it um so yeah so what ended up happening and i'm gonna kind of just kind of
read some text blurb to get us all on the same page um ecc devs resigned um including josh and
chelsea who were heads of it the reason um for the resignation was the entire team of about 25 members
had a governance dispute with the bootstrap board. It was a constructive discharge is kind of what
they're air quote saying. The board members and Josh just seemed to very much disagree,
The board members and Josh just seemed to very much disagree, which made the doves leave.
Mostly because of changes that were going to be misaligned with what Zcash's mission was of being private, unstoppable money.
So they decided to walk because the Zcash vision wasn't what they saw.
Now, I do want to preface all of this with saying Zcash is open source.
The network is still working so if you are a holder of zcash and want to use it spend it whatever none of that is actually
impacted the only thing that really is kind of scary from my reading on this is this idea that
future development may have halted or just not be there until there's a dev team behind it right
yeah because you get uncertainty yeah which you know's open source, so it can be contributed to.
It works currently.
It is a very private chain.
So, you know, if you hold it and you want to use it, cool.
There's no there's no harm there.
Just the future development is what is at risk at this point.
Yep.
Evan, I think I've also heard
that they're
creating their own wallet
for Zashi, so they're
going to work on another wallet
also. I don't know if you saw
that one too.
Yeah, stuff's been trickling in
mostly on X, props
to X. I was scouring YouTube
and things like that, just trying to find anything else.
But X is kind of the source for all of this.
And yeah, it seems like they want to do their own chain and everything.
Yeah.
And so there's some interesting topics we were talking about is
if they continue, but then maybe there'll be like a fork,
it might be like Bitcoin Cash again,
but then Zcash and some fork that you might
have to collect.
Oh, like a Bitcoin Cash kind of scenario?
Yeah, yeah.
Whatever amount of Zcash you have, you'll have an equal amount on the other chain that
they work on with Josh and the other team forking Zcash potentially.
with Josh and the other team forking Zcash potentially.
So one thing that I was reading about,
and any input, because it's such fresh news,
we do a little pre-show prep,
and I talked to RJ about this idea that
was it like any sort of insider moves of dumping and things like that?
Because the price did move so violently right yeah yeah and
from what I can see I don't see any public insider moves now this is a
privacy chain so I swear there's no way to really know this but it looks like
on June on January 2nd and 3rd there was was big whale movement. Yeah, like 200,000 coins. 202,000
unshielded.
As far as we can tell,
at least on chain what's visible,
there wasn't really any dumping
that happened.
The price move has more to do
with just uncertainty.
Which happens anytime the
confidence is shaken in any project
or stock or whatever it may, maybe the price tanks.
So maybe that's what we're seeing.
There was a lot of, I had a double take or double read just because, I guess, misinformation or just like, yeah, people were saying the team was dumping or the people who quit were dumping.
And that, like you said, on-chain hasn't been proven or confirmed.
And then I kept seeing from some big Zcash,
like just maxis or influencers,
like this is fake news, it's all fake,
the team's actually growing.
I don't know if he was trolling or not,
but it made me just say yes.
I was like, oh, wait, wait, maybe we're sharing fake news.
But I'm like, no, everyone at this point is talking about it.
So it's clearly real.
That was just a bag holder.
Yeah.
Like, no, no!
We've doubled in size. We're 40 people now.
Doubled our privacy.
But that is the concern, right?
Less people know what's happening.
I'm kind of even trying to understand the big concern, which is, you know, it's fully
decentralized. It's its own network, but the core devs you know yeah are gone so therefore like you said
any future development is potentially halted or just not being developed or could could like you
guys said fork into a whole nother direction all right or just cause like but otherwise like the
network is fine it's still decentralized miners are still operating yeah so mining yeah really
doesn't it's it's really a dow
right which you know dow's seem to have a lot of issues it doesn't matter
dow adjacent it is a registered company electric electric coin company is a is
an actual company right yeah yeah I mean we've had who was it that spoke at edge
we had someone from yeah it was it wasosh it was yeah i was like man i swear i met this dude yeah he was at our office yeah that's him um
yeah so more power to him the guy i thought that was josh and if so he seems to be really really
like good faith trying to build something big for privacy.
He's all in on Zcash. He's all into the project for sure.
So now that I can confirm that it was Josh that was there,
now I get how he would walk away if it's not in the vision.
Because that's what spoke to me when he was at Edge.
Yeah.
He seemed so passionate. It wasn't about getting rich.
Some of the
bullshit that you that you know happens behind the scenes with some of these um projects coins
whatever that didn't seem like josh's motive yeah he's the type he's the type that doesn't
he'll die on that hill like if it doesn't align with the mission that's why we got from them
yeah zuko is the same way i remember meeting him same same idea like that's it yeah
boom privacy like so some of these guys that's their motive and yeah so i get it not now that
i put two and two together yeah that makes a lot of sense of course though like the conspiracy brain
or like the whole you know a lot of i don't have a lot of skin in this game where i'm kind of new
to it i'm sort of learning but i know they're know there's camps and maxis, right? And Monero and Zcash seem not to get along.
And it makes you definitely wonder,
an entire team quits,
what core values were not being hit or aligned
with some of these people who are very true to their values.
And you start to wonder,
oh, maybe zcash
is on coinbase and zcash does have institutional you know support and you start to listen to all
the maxis you're like hmm maybe i should put my tinfoil hat on it's just interesting but the you
know it just feeds to this kind of like lore i guess uh yeah i mean I guess from the from fanatics, I guess, yeah, I can see where you're coming from. You know, when I speak to people that are into Zcash, even at Edge or, you know, when we did have that meetup, it doesn't seem like it's as combative as maybe what you're seeing, at least from my perspective.
It seems like it's more just let's get privacy coins, see which one works.
They're all almost like data tests and just figure out which one is one that we can use, spend and is most private.
I don't see it as competitive.
Maybe I'm pie in the sky and I'm off base here.
I'm not sure about competitive. I guess it's like the approach
the solution for the problem.
Everyone has their opinion on how it should be done
and the proper way to go about it.
Sure, sure.
Also, we have
some people. Should I just let them
come up and speak right now or do we want to
Yeah, let's do it.
I don't see the request maybe i have two right here so a brand and you put me as a speaker not a
not a co-host shimmer oh really oh sorry i don't know it's all no it's all good hey you run the
show okay but yeah that'll be a lot easier for you guys to hit the exit yeah i didn't see anyone
i was waiting i was like man that's enough people yeah mary we've had you before welcome back thanks for uh for requesting and and arp on it right welcome guys what's up everyone how are you
what do you think about this whole zcash debacle i am fine and what about you
I am fine. And what about you?
What's up?
I am fine. What about you?
Oh, I'm great. You know, just living life.
Did you have anything to say about the whole Zcash debacle or anything else?
zcash debacle or really anything else i just wanted to about a uh age wallet what you give a
ambassador program to a few days ago and i am applied for the Ambassador Program for each wallet few hours ago.
In the form, I will tell the work prompt in January.
When will I get an email notification for Ambassador Program?
Oh, all right. Sorry. Had to digest that. So you submitted for ambassador program?
Yeah, that's more like how long until he'll hear a response or an update on the application.
I'm guessing that's a marketing question. Yeah.
So just an update for all the brand ambassadors. Thank you for asking that question. Just an update in general. We're working on an email. It's about to go out soon. We're going to need some more details
from all the brand ambassadors. So look out for that email. And then as soon as you can,
provide the details and then just reply and then we'll move on from there. But essentially,
right now, you're just looking for an email from Edge marketing team and just respond there and then we'll move forward from there.
But currently that's the next step.
Brother, sorry to say I am outside in USA and other countries.
I am from Bangladesh.
That's why you cannot, yeah, you cannot know my pronunciation rightly.
Oh, it's no worry which part of the world you're from or anything like that.
You know, just everyone who applied and submitted their information, so long as they gave us an email, we will be sending an email to them.
And then hopefully, you know, if you're a candidate and you feel like you're, you know, you are a candidate,
just submit the information and we're going to review everyone,
you know, and then critique everyone.
It doesn't matter where you're from in the world or what, you know.
Yeah, if anything, we'd want it to be spread across the entire globe.
I mean, that's kind of our aim.
Yeah, we absolutely have, you know, global, you know,
I guess a global user base.
You know, we talk to people all the time from just all around the world, to be honest.
Thanks, brother.
Yep.
Honestly, I am very crazy to work in Ambassador Program with Edge Wallet.
Well, good.
I mean, we're glad you submitted then do you have uh anything else not not too much
okay uh we also had what shamiri i hope i'm not bushering that uh i i believe you had been on
the last uh time we had a speech, right?
GM, GM, guys.
Yeah, I'm doing good.
GM, Michael, and everyone on the call.
RJ, can you guys hear me?
Yeah, I hear you.
What's up, buddy?
I'm doing great.
Are you?
Awesome.
Good here. Fantastic.
The Z-Cast thing, I was just on this afternoon,
and then I now saw the tweet about the core team have resigned and everything.
And next thing you see, the price of Zcash just make it.
And I was like, is this the end of privacy?
The end of Zcash.
The crazy part is that people that actually don't want privacy in the update, I've just
been seeing the tweets popping up, all the shit I've been talking privacy, privacy is dead and all of all this anymore. I still don't
believe that that's the end of privacy because even if we see cash having some little challenges,
because I know that I actually believe that privacy is something that will actually is
here for the long term. It's not something that just come and go
like a random trade in the crypto space.
I think something that is here for the long term.
Well, my major concern is none that the core dev
have left the Zcash to build another thing,
probably another privacy project,
which I've seen this guy, Josh,
I think he was talking about starting off a new Zcash or something like that.
This other one, what will actually happen to it?
I'm just concerned more about its future,
because in as much as we are all pushing for privacy,
these guys actually made something very good for us.
I think starting off
last year i know that zikash coming up and everybody being bullish on privacy they actually
contributed very well and based on their contribution and every other person's contribution
for me i don't believe that any privacy project should go down because when you are like four
the project should go down because when you are like four fighting and then they kill one person
you guys are actually outnumbered so we will have more like privacy voice talking
we actually win this race of making the web three space private by default so i still have a strong
feeling and then i actually support this particular Zika expanding.
But now I'm concerned about its future.
Now that the core team have actually left the project, is there really anything to still
keep the project running and possibly grow it, even if there are many people not scaling?
Because I saw Josh tweet, he was was like there need to be a startup that
can be skilled that's what i saw and also i actually i want to give a shout out to matt
yes he's not here but that guy is actually doing something very good for the space when he has to
with privacy he's actually i've been seeing him going back and forth with a lot of people who are
is actually, I've been seeing him going back and forth.
There's a lot of people on Twitter talking about how Steelzy can still bullish.
That guy is actually doing a very great job in this space, to be very honest.
So I just wanted to you guys just give your opinion on the future of this particular ZK.
Is this something we should hope that it will recover, or is it just the end of it?
Well, so, I mean, to kind of answer the first part, and I'll jump in and whoever, you know,
if RJ or Alberto, but you mentioned, is privacy dead or is this a change in the narrative of
privacy being important? Obviously, it's not, right? Right, right. So, privacy is still very,
very important, I guess, is my starting point. We still have Monero.
Zcash still functions.
Once again, it's open source.
We just don't know what the future development will be.
So when it comes to Zcash specifically, who's to say that tomorrow they don't have a bunch of devs rushing and the project just continues as is?
We don't know that.
So to say that it's
the end of Zcash, I seriously
doubt it. Just the very nature of it being
open source means that people will want to work
on it. Yeah, I agree with
Michael here. I don't think it's going to die
just, you know,
be gone and instead.
I think it'll still continue on. I think other
devs will jump in
as it is open source.
There's been lots of infighting in lots of teams.
It's nothing new to crypto, right?
Many projects.
What was it the last time we did this?
Wasn't it Aave having some sort of crazy infighting?
Right, yeah, that was recent.
The Bitcoin communities have infighting, right? That's i mean yeah the bitcoin you know communities have
infighting right that's what led to all these forks uh ethereum's had fighting all these major
projects have had infighting and they're still here and very relevant so i don't you know that's
something to keep in mind i guess yeah so that that's my main thing about zcash is
literally tomorrow they could have a full team of devs again we don't know
um so as far as zcash any other questions concerns from anyone else
any insider information that we don't have i'm still strong acts like crazy trying to find any new
information i sent you guys a message on the channel the ama channel um what's your guys
thoughts on that if you guys get a chance to read it um basically this dump could have been or this
user says this dump could have been because there's some locked funds that they want to
use for the team but it's been locked since like last year and they haven't been able to vote and come into an agreement with uh what to use the funds for for builders
also there was a day yesterday i mean bitcoin touched 89k you know so whether it was a
coordinated dump the team dumping or just zcash had a bearish day like the entire market did? It's kind of hard to distinguish, like really, right?
Well, they had a complete reorg of how the Zcash funds were allocated
just, what, last year, right?
Yeah, but it looks like here, the issue still remains
that there's like $35 million in Zcash still locked
$35 million in C cash still locked that the team cannot access.
that the team cannot access.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Until there's a reorg established.
Yeah.
And that's,
that's the one where each vote has still failed in terms of like what to do
with the funds.
So it's kind of like stuck because whatever proposals they come up with
ends up failing to agree with what to do with that
money.
So all of these are saying is this could be like one of the reasons, you know, those
devs quit.
Got you.
Yeah, it could be.
I have another request to you.
Is that ARP on this again? what's up i tell to you could you recommend that to me to the
marketing team guys i am very interested in working with age quality in the ambassador program
um so i mean this is going to be blunt and no disrespect. When we're doing the crypto frontline stuff, if you want to seek employment or anything like that, just email us or reach out independently of this.
I don't mean to be so blunt, but we know you're interested in the ambassador program.
We have you.
I promise you're going to get a message from us.
We would never leave you hanging.
But as far as employment and things like that
let's save that for a different forum okay all right i think so i appreciate the interest i
promise i do okay i will how can i use you um you can either message the support channel or marketing at edge.app.
Okay?
Okay.
I want to come here now.
I want to go to sleep.
G&O.
Good night.
Have a good night.
Have a good one.
And I think, was it Mobex?
Man, I'm butchered all of these. Mobex. Yeah move Mobex man I'm butchered all these
good evening my name is Mubarak and I'm a passionate advocate for privacy focused crypto
solutions I have been following Hualet closely and I'm impressed with how you guys are empowering users in Web3.
First of all, I would like to make a proposal for the creation and expansion for Edge Wallet Ambassador Program.
You see, Edge Wallet, like I've been going through the pages, you guys are having very low engagement.
Like no likes, no ret like the the the community is
very so dry is which is very unfortunate like like uh a product like edge wireless supposed to be a
top bean project in in dv3 but if you look closely at the edge world community is very so dry. Like, people don't post nothing, nothing.
It's just so dry that, okay,
that people are, like, losing interest.
Like, okay, like, you guys don't, like, post.
Like, the page is just so dry.
And what I'm suggesting is that you guys should, okay,
like, open a, let me say, a program,
like, Ambassador Soldiers, like, recruit more people to start posting for you regularly.
Posting, I think that might help the community to grow.
That's my proposal for you guys.
Sure, sure.
So, I mean, to kind of iterate on that, part of the reason why we're making the Ambassador Initiative,
and please pause me if I'm completely off base,berto is so that we can start posting more so we can have
more community outreach and things of that nature like that's part of the whole project
yeah definitely we were hoping to have you know that's what we were picking between like four
and six individuals that we hope to you know help us bring more engagement to the community
essentially that's the entire goal is to bridge
engagement and bridge community and and hopefully just get more just more communication in general
with with our users and with anyone who's interested with an edge you know
right and and part of that is we are a very small team you know like that is something that isn't
hidden you know we're a small team so the ambassador program should help us engage with more reach more people you know do all that
um so i'm sorry to say we are not a small team we are very much bigger teams i think it's just
belief and the passion and the compassion like nothing is small, right? So we are not small. We have to just focus on our goals.
So I'm sorry, like that or you small,
I don't think this is appropriate word.
Like just the consistency, the inspiration,
that's all people need in Gravitory.
Every day posting, like doing ad bars,
replying tweets, that's all it needs.
But nothing like small.
Small is just like, HR is a very big program.
Like I've been doing more, I've been doing more recycling.
I'm seeing it like just that.
All it needs is just ambassadors that we help to just like develop it.
That's all it needs right now.
But I don't think so when i say when i say
small i mean by actual numbers of employees just so you know no our ambitions and what we want to
do are huge and and we have a really big user base that we we adore right but when it comes right
down to like what's in the office and what's actually developing edge it is a small team it
just did they were there were not that many people but at any rate uh it looks like we have all sorts of speakers at this point so
i don't know which was first maybe alberto does but i'm just going to go from left to right
and just stop me if I'm way off, Shinobi.
and just stop me if i'm way off shinobi yeah shinobi
Yeah, Shinobi.
Yeah, I've been approving just kind of as they request.
So I think also they are aligned in an order.
Yeah, so Shinobi, how's it going?
Welcome.
Thanks for requesting to speak.
And then Codex, and we've already had Shimmeri and SimpleBSO.
Okay.
Shinobi, not unmuting. So what is codex have you know because in
case you don't know that yeah codex if you're if you're ready to go let us know
anything any opinions any any thoughts on the Zcash stuff yeah yeah Jim everybody
so I have a quick general clarification because I've been following well it's
like edge wallets that's you know, have that deal on full custody, you know, that don't have any, you cannot import your wallet and all the rest and all the rest, you understand.
So I actually have a question or a clarification because maybe I might not be more clarifying these matters.
So let's say, for example, now I have a wallet,
an edge wallet, and then I put in my phones there.
So is there any way that, okay, let's say for example,
something happens in the future.
Is there any way that I can recover my phones?
Like I just want to have a clarification
in these kind of wallets, because what I'm used to
is all the wallet that you import and then UX,
you can import your wallet in any of these, any other wallet.
You understand?
But this wallet deals fully on, you know, on full cost of the, you understand?
How can I recover my phone?
Let's say, for example, I store my crypto on edge wallet and then over over the stop using crypto maybe due to fundraising
and then maybe 10 years from now or you know years from now access those forms in edge wallet okay um
do you want me to take this rj or do you want to do it yeah let's go for it though i think the
question was like if you have funds on Edge Wallet,
you lose your phone,
you store your funds there,
how do you access it again?
So basically, you're still covered.
If you can get a brand new phone,
download Edge and install Edge again,
log in, you'll have your funds on there.
Or the traditional way,
I don't know if you've seen before,
but you can also access your private seed
for each individual wallet on your account.
So if you actually tap and hold on your Bitcoin wallet,
you could access a massive private seed,
and you can see the private seed, which is, you know,
like the 12 or 24 words, which you could export that out
and then import that into another wallet,
another Edge wallet or another wallet outside of Edge,
and you can recover your funds like that too.
Okay.
So something to codex, and I want to make sure that we understand what's
actually happening with edge.
I swear you mentioned something about edge being custody or something of that
nature edge is self custody.
We do not hold user funds.
Everything is stored locally on their device and then backed up.
Encrypted.
Encrypted files are backed up.
So we don't even know that you have an account until you let us know what your username is.
So just to make sure that's very clear, I want to make sure that part was clear.
Yeah, I understand that.
I understand that completely.
In fact, that's my main point.
That's my main point.
Okay, let's say, for example, now, let me use another wallet for example let's say metamask i create
a wallet with metamask and i put in my phones there let's see and then i store my seed freeze
maybe physically or somewhere but i store it securely somewhere and then over the years i
stopped using crypto and maybe like 10 years 20 years 30 years and then after
that period of time um let's say metamask is no more in existence maybe they are no more a wallet
you get me and it's metamask that i used to create that wallet so i can just go on find my seed phrase
and copy it to another one let's say bigGet wallet or any other wallet like Phantom wallet or so on.
I copy it and I'll see my phone's there.
So is that the same with Edge wallet?
If it's Edge wallet, how is it going to be?
Let's say from the back of the mind, Edge wallet is no more in the business or is no more in the wallet.
How can someone recover their phones?
Let me just break it down on our approach.
Instead of, so instead of doing the initial seed phrase
up front like a MetaMask does, or man, any other wallets,
even a Trezor or things like that, right?
What Edge does is we use username and password
as pretty much the key.
So that's pretty much your key pair.
And what that does is it allows you to create an account, create wallets, create those private keys.
And each wallet in Edge has its own private key, which is a security feature in itself.
And so now everything's on your device.
It's local.
Say Edge goes out of business, you know, something bad happens,
you know, whatever it is. If it's still local, you can still actually transact or get those private keys locally with your password and extract those private keys. Now, if you want to be
proactive, now I typically don't advise this because private keys out in the wild mean money
could be stolen, but you can do that now that now you know you could go into each individual
wallet grab your private keys store them please store them safely not on the cloud or anything
like that i i cringe even thinking about people extracting the keys but the point is if you're a
power user and you want to do that cool now you have access to your private keys a lot of us
internally you know i don't want to speak for everyone but we'll actually keep edge on two
different devices at the same time.
This is almost like an internal backup for yourself.
That's what I personally do.
Edge goes out of business.
I have two backups.
I lose a phone.
I already have a backup.
That's one thing.
I know not everyone has the means to do that, but that is a really good way to protect yourself as well.
And also, by going out of business or if our servers are down, I'm sure you guys know you can log in offline.
So you can even test this yourself.
Like if you go in airplane mode for your device, you can log in with a full password and still access your account.
And then offline, you can still see your private seed because all you need to enter is your password to access your private seed.
private seed because all you need to enter is your password to access your private seed.
So even if Edge goes out of business, you have no internet, you're in the freaking jungle
in the middle of nowhere, you can still access Edge with your full password.
You'll log in offline or by metric offline also, and you can access your keys with the
password.
Pin logging wouldn't work though since that's server side.
And also, correct me if I'm wrong
a lot of our wallets have the ability
to add custom nodes
so even if we were offline I believe
you could add your custom node and still send
that's a good one too, yep
there's that too, like Bitcoin for example
you can add your own node
and just transact
independently of edge, now it's just
your piece of software, do whatever you want with it.
Does that answer your question, Kodak?
I don't want to hang in too long.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's, that's, that's very, very good.
I, I understand everything.
You know, it's not all the, you know, and fully custodial wallet that does these, that
have these features too.
I just wanted to, you wanted to clarify on that.
And also we need more articles and shares from you guys
about how to access your wallets
through these local means and all that.
I think we have articles already
on offline access, right, Michael?
We do, yeah.
If anything's ever missing,
DM me, message me here, message support of edge.app.
If anything's missing, I would love to hear from the community.
And I'll write that article this minute that I get noticed that something's missing.
I do a lot of the writing of the articles personally.
Daniel is a big help there too. Alberto's written quite a few.
If there's something missing, we want to be on top
of that. Okay. Okay. That's cool. That's cool. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm good now. Okay, cool.
So simply, sorry to leave you hanging for so long. Hey, Michael. How's it going? Been well.
Hey, what's up? Okay. What's up, H1?
I mean, I've forgotten your name from
behind the H account, but yeah.
It's all good. How are you holding up?
I don't think
he's with us.
Simply saying sup, Alberto.
Go ahead.
What did you have to say, though?
Oh, he's a personal.
How is he going?
Simply is an
applicant, right? You apply to be a
brand ambassador?
Yeah, I did.
Yeah, I recognize a few
potential brand ambassadors in here.
Mick Toshi, Simply.
Anyone else?
Codex, did you apply? I'm not sure.
Yeah, but welcome, guys.
A while ago.
I swear
OneZetty is a name I know, too. Is that Reddit
that I know OneZetty from? Yeah,
OneZetty is an ambassador as well. Sorry, I don't see
the full list. I'm trying
to look through it.
Scroll a little bit. There we go.
Yeah, welcome, OneZetty. trying to look through it scroll a little bit there we go yeah ones there welcome ones ready
um um all right so like i was saying i mean i hate when mobics i was talking about something
you know and michael said something about having a small team behind the age of it
and then publics now say that oh you cannot say you have um your team is
small meanwhile you have a whole lot of a ton of community here to back you up and you're not saying
your team is small well I do kind of get the context he was trying to pull out but yeah
I also believe in outsourcing you know like um michael was saying he was talking about putting out some
of the contents out there himself you know keeping the community updated on stuff that's
going on and you know i think um the person that is managing the age socials you know stuff like
that i actually do believe a lot when it comes to outsourcing stuff like this, especially when it comes to a large project like H, you know, and managing the community.
Like he said, the community is actually vast and, you know, it has to do with users, gathering feedback, hearing them speak.
probably sometimes you also see people that are doing research come up with something
that age was it and you have to be there to see oh what's going on here if it means
making some adjustments on the app you still do it as well so you know having
take up on this tax is actually kind of what makes it easier yeah what makes it easier it doesn't even
have to be um paid partnerships or paid collaborations i mean there are people that
are actually willing to build you know when they see the vision when they see the vision and what
is actually going on within the system is actually worth contributing and they do that probably the
um the fundings and everything maybe
paid collaborations can come up later but then you know just having people around that are willing
to do the tax apart from the embassy because the ambassadorship aspect is kind of like you know
an external community push where we just gain traction we now build the social and the engagement matrices so all
the stuff now is actually the internal part of it we you know just making sure that there are people
there to see the work and see how it's going but yeah so far so good um they're actually doing well
i think there's this other lady if i'm not mistaken I cannot really recall her name
it was from her previous account H ambassador officially she has it on her profile I've
forgotten her name I don't know she's not here today and yeah she's not here today and
the other person as well I think she's a co-founder I've forgotten right?
I think she's a co-founder.
I forgot to write.
It's okay.
It's okay.
I forgot to, but then, yeah, but then since I lost my account,
I actually lost contact with none of you.
And, yeah, it's all good.
It's all good.
I'm still holding up and watching what you're building.
And then room for contribution.
I'm also able to contribute as well.
So, yeah, keep grinding, keep holding up, watch your thing.
We are all going together one day.
Yo, yo,
how do I call the guy behind
H accounts? How do I call him?
He's asking your name, I believe.
Alberto.
Say that again?
Yeah, me. I wasn't sure if he was asking about me.
Yeah, my name's Alberto.
Alberto, if you can't roll your R's.. Alberto, if you can't roll your R's.
Or Alberto, if you can't roll your R's, either way.
Okay, okay, Alberto.
I will not forget again.
I think you've already told me that before.
So yeah, Michael and Alberto and RJ.
Yeah, I got it.
Nice to virtually meet you, RJ.
Yeah, like what?
Oh, no, sorry. You're not RJ, so you're saying RJ.
Yeah, yeah, sorry. So, simply. Nice to virtually meet you, RJ. Yeah. Like what? Oh, no, sorry. You're not RJ. So you're saying RJ.
Yeah, yeah.
Sorry.
What is the... So, Simply.
We're nice to virtually meet you, Simply.
The name is actually Bima.
He's actually Bima, but since the previous account was opening, I decided to ask Simply
in front, but he's actually Bima.
Cool.
That works.
Thank you, Bima.
I was going to say, since we have one Z zetti here and he's chilling with us i'm curious if he wants to speak he's i know he's a privacy-centered kind
of uh you know ambassador or user in general he's a kind of a privacy power user so to speak
i'm curious if he has an opinion not to put you on the spot oh he requested cool um let me give
you approval on the whole Zcash.
You know, I'm just curious if he has an opinion or anything,
anything really.
But, yeah, welcome.
Thank you, Alberto.
Yeah, Alberto.
There we go.
Someone can roll their hearts.
Yeah, a little feedback.
We might have to mute. Yeah, there we go. What's up, Wenzetti? Thank you.
Just so you know, I've seen a lot of your Reddit posts. You do good. Thank you.
Oh, thank you. Thank you. I me, in Mexico, I'm Mexican.
So I have no problem saying I'm Mexican.
So for me, the cryptoburse in Mexico is really, really very open.
But not a lot of people join to the cryptoburse, no?
But for me, it's really scary for me that people just trust in the change. They don't really get what is, nor your keys, nor your coins.
And I really love the privacy, you know, of the cryptoburst given to us.
So the two things I really love or enjoy in my life is my privacy, crypto coins, and then I discover HWallet.
So I say, man, this is great.
man this is great this is what i was looking for a place where i can store my coins where i can
This is what I was looking for.
spend if i wanted but no kawesi no spyware no tax no tax to my country freedom so
i really i don't have a question, to be honest.
I just want to say I really love what H. Wallace is doing.
That is why I joined the Ambassador Program.
I tried to give it back to the people because a lot of people helped me in the beginning
when I was just a little shy in this cryptoverse. A lot of people helped me in the beginning when I was just a little chai in this cryptoverse.
A lot of people helped me. So that is what I want to do now, help other people.
You know, I cannot help people to become millionaires. I have no idea how to do that.
But if I can help you to get more privacy, to get more freedom and present them to Edge Wallet
to my crypto friends, so be it.
I really love what you're doing.
Thank you, Wanzari.
I just wanted to comment.
I just wanted to comment, Wanzari, that, yeah,
I think in Mexico there's maybe like the lack of education I lived in Mexico and
Tijuana for about 10 years and I see that there's not a lot of events or
crypto education events so maybe that's where users could learn more what you
said not your keys you know not your crypto no tiendes the llaves no
student arrow right that dinero that's really cool
I didn't know we had a Mexican brand ambassador
that's pretty cool
I think privacy in Mexico is super important
I have cousins who were visiting
over the holidays from Salamanca
and they
get literally
it's sad to say but they get
their stuff stolen all the time
they literally have held that gunpoint.
The car is broken into like just lots of different just ways of getting your stuff stolen.
So I can only imagine holding crypto in Mexico is terrifying.
Like it just it would scare me.
Right. You wouldn't want to brag about it or talk about it.
But for sure, you wouldn't want someone on chain looking around and, you know, trying to dox your wallet.
Like that's where I see a real use case for privacy.
It's just consumer safety.
So I don't know if you've ever dealt with that one, Zeddy, or ever thought about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
Not only the bad people is dangerous in Mexico, but the good people is dangerous too.
Right.
You know, the Mexican government is almost a spyware now because you
have to put in every shopping you make online you have to put your tax id we call it rfc so
if i buy something from amazon i have to put my my tax in my tax id if i if i
my tax ID. If I do a subscription to Netflix or to Google YouTube Premium, I have to put my tax ID.
So the gov now knows how much money I make. And now he knows how much money I spend.
how much money I spend. Even my shoppings, my subscriptions, you know, all the stuff
we are now doing online. So they compare the income with the outcome. And if it doesn't match,
they will visit me. That's funny where you get audited.
They will visit me.
That's probably where you get audited.
With a big order, yes.
And of course, what you say about drug dealers and all cartels,
it's a shame for my country, of course.
It's a shame for my country.
But you are absolutely right.
You cannot brag about it.
I see all these videos of people saying,
I have a Mercedes, I have a Ferrari, I have a Lambo.
You cannot do that in Mexico.
Of course, you cannot.
That's why we need privacy.
That's why we need responsibility about what we do with our coins.
And if I can get that privacy, that freedom in one app with my crypto, I just love it.
I just love it.
Right, man, totally.
Well said.
Happy to have you, and man, sounds terrifying.
And also, to be fair, if you have Lambos and stuff like that,
bragging about it in general is probably not the best practice,
regardless of where you live.
Yes, no, it's not a good idea.
I mean, if you have a Lambo, you have to live in a...
Don't get me wrong. Not all Mexico is dangerous, okay?
If you have money, you can live in very nice places
where nothing bad will happen ever.
I mean, all these news you see, you can see it in the news.
It's poor, poor neighborhoods,, poor zones, horrible places.
And if you have money, you live in the Mexico VIP.
And in the Mexico VIP is different from the non-Mexico VIP.
vip okay it's very very different
Okay.
It's very, very different.
i say everyone who has their hand raised feels free to speak we'll kind of try to
make it as orderly as possible not speaking over everyone but i think uh
bazzur you haven't spoken yet if you want to chime in
okay jim jim everyone i hope you had a great uh holidays um i'm very impressed with the technology
of each wallets because i've never think i've never thought there is uh something like this
can be created like you can just create you can just put your phones and you can use duals.
Like you can hide your balance.
You can feel fake balance.
Like I'm very, very impressed.
So I have just a few questions.
My first question is, for example, let's assume I just bought a new phone.
Then I want to transfer.
I want to install the utilityity in my new phone.
So I use my username and password.
So will all my balance, that is all my accounts, all my accounts, can they be transferred to my new phone?
Yeah, yeah.
So if you get a new phone and all you have to do is download Edge,
you use your username and password, you log in, it grabs that encrypted file that matches that
that hash and downloads that onto your phone and then your funds will be there.
And also another easier way, if you have a new phone and you still have your old phone
and it's logged into Edge, you can simply tap the edge login on the new device it'll
display a QR code then on the old device on edge scan that device and it'll log
you in without entering the username password that's uh that's edge login
it's a little bit more convenient okay okay i understand so what if the phone is lost
if a phone is lost it's as long as you know you're using a password just get a new phone and
download edge and you have access to your phones uh we we kind of i don't know if you were here
I don't know if you were here earlier when I had mentioned recovery processes or like
earlier when i had mentioned recovery processes or like edge where you go out of business
Edge were to go out of business. You can also extract your keys, though I'm hesitant to say
that for the average user, that's more of a power user thing. You can always take your keys out as well.
Okay, I understand. Okay. So my second question, I'm sorry, please, is about the ambassador
second question i'm sorry please uh it's about the ambassador program uh go through the comments
section recommends and uh i saw a comment from the e-trollette accounts to a user that says look
for an email from our marketing team so i want to move does this mean that the marketing team have already sent email, or we should expect for an email from the marketing team?
Alberto may have to take this, but yeah.
Once again, you know, this really isn't the form for this, but if you did submit for Ambassador Program, everyone will be contacted.
Yeah, the form has been open. So we,
you know, the list has been kind of growing. But everyone who's submitted through that form,
we have we should have your contact information, we should have at the very least your email and
your username on x, we will be sending out an email, it'll be going out to everybody, essentially,
we'll be asking for follow up details, we'll be asking for more information just to kind of show us your engagement and stuff like that.
So look out for that email.
It's coming from the marketing team.
It might be today.
It might be tomorrow.
Just within the next few days, just be on your toes.
Be ready.
That's the next step.
So that email is how you will continue to the next step.
We haven't picked anybody.
No one's been selected at all.
We haven't even narrowed it down to anybody yet.
We're still trying to gather better information and make an educated decision and make the best decision we can.
So, yeah, we're taking our time.
Sorry, it has been kind of delayed.
We didn't expect so much interest, which is great.
It's a great thing.
But it's kind of making the selection process a little bit more tedious. And that kind of makes,
you know, is why we're delaying the entire process, just because we want to make
the best decision we can without kind of rushing the process at all, right?
We want the best to represent us. So sorry again we have apologies for the delay uh there's for sure been a delay uh but for sure keep an eye out again for an email
coming from our marketing team um yeah that's that's pretty much all i can really say that's
that's just where we're at right now okay thanks for yes i have another question but i've forgotten about the future of the age
world is but if i remember i'll come back thanks okay um i do want to try to keep this to an hour
so we have four minutes unless everyone wants to stay but i try i'm trying to keep it to an hour
so i believe we have one speaker that hasn't had a chance is that vector
believe we have one speaker that hasn't had a chance is that vector yes Jim everyone hi hi
all right um we spoke last year actually so so an interesting conversation and this piece too has
also been very very very very informative I got to learn more about Edge but basically without wasting
much time so I noticed that most of the speakers that came up to speak they were all asking
questions as regarding Edge and so basically I feel like um Edge Edge as a team should start like an educative
threads or programs just to like guide both the ambassadors and the users on how to know more
about it. So that will really help because most of the questions that are being asked are asked by
people that have been using the app that are confused and so basically just an educative
if we have done that before maybe we can just like bring it back so for people to learn and
so questions like this will will be reduced to the barriers minimum and then during the
ambassadorship program people can know what they are representing and get the full gist
so also um i think my name um i was not using vector before it was um
a name before so i've commented before so i hope the team got it right so
So I've commented before so I hope the team got it right so and also concerning the X I think the team is doing a great job actually
Are you guys still hearing me?
Yeah
What's your question? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the team is doing a great job actually with the X account and
The growth may look a little bit bit low but then I still feel is
okay but more can be done well with the
sponsorship program and all the numbers are going to definitely increase I see a
lot of replies because I own notification for both replies and the
posts so I know the guys are doing very very good so we can just put in
more effort and then we'll see how it goes. Happy New Year. The last time we spoke it was
20-25 so yeah happy new year everyone. That's just it. Thank you.
Yeah you know that's what we're asking that's why we're sending out the email
to everybody because you know we do want to make sure that we're you know, that's what we're asking. That's why we're sending out the email to everybody because, you know, we do want to make sure that we're, you know, we're grabbing ambassadors or picking ambassadors who have great engagement, organic engagement, actual, you know, will represent edge and are not kind of inflating their own numbers.
So that's why that's what we'll be asking, basically.
So if you if you it's not just about about having really massive accounts with lots of followers.
It's always about how you represent yourself, how you speak, how you articulate yourself, how you can represent Edge as well.
So it's not just about massive accounts.
It's about narrowing it down to who is the best fit for Edge and also has organic following or is building and cultivating community and can bridge that
gap, help Edge bridge that gap.
I appreciate all the interest.
You guys are awesome.
All right.
I think that sums up everyone that wanted to speak.
We like to end it with the ability to shill projects, anything you're interested in stuff you'd like edge to do so open
for the next like minute if you have anything to show projects that you're interested in that you
think everyone else would be interested in let us know otherwise can hear us hello still here all right all
right um so there's this project I've also been,
I've been with for quite a while.
I'll just drop the tag on the group, it's called Nige.
So Nige, yes, Nige official.
So you can just check them out.
Basically it's like an ecosystem itself.
So you get there, there are a lot of terminologies
about night so it's a very very interesting platform you nest eggs you buy eggs you nest
them for a particular period of time and then you get um an roi 20% 30% depending on the period of time you nest
your eggs here and then you get an ROI return on investment so I believe for
the people that are not doing DGN or just want cool cash at least every seven days or 30 days.
So Nige is there.
Can you spell it for us?
N-I-G-E.
Nige.
Nige.
Nige.
Okay.
So Nige.
Not financial advice ever.
Just make that very clear but check out
the yeah yeah it is not I'm not a financial experts I'm clearly just a
random guy so see just you can just check them out they're just like an
ecosystem that's not the little thing they do. It's just like, how do I describe it?
Just check them out, guys.
I'll drop your tag on the comment section.
So thank you.
Do your own research.
But yeah, thank you.
Anyone else?
Yeah, go ahead.
There's a, was it whoever had their hand raised right now?
And then whoever else, was it Codex?
Yeah, go ahead to codex
jim guys right thank you yep oh i actually don't want to share a project i just wanted to like
ask if this feature is something that is available on edge or something that can be
is something that is available on edge or something that can be permitted
i think a lot of people are asking if they got a new device or the device got stolen and then
they log into another one i was thinking it's just an idea that came to my mind i don't know
if something that edge is doing let's say assuming your phone got stolen you got a new device and
then you're looking then your your phone should appear. I was
thinking in your old device, you should automatically log out. I don't know if you guys get the
idea. When you log into any device, it's your automatically log out in the other.
That'd be great, but we actually can't do that because of the local nature of Edge.
We've talked about it internally, but that's technically not possible.
You can, even if you were to change your password,
if the, so say the lost device,
the person that has your device knows your PIN
or your password, even if you change your password
because it's local, we can't force that to log out.
There may be a technical way to do it in the future,
but currently there is not.
Now, fortunately, just use a secure password,
use a secure pin, and it should be a non-issue
even if your device is lost, but that is true.
And to be fair, that's true of really any self-custody.
It's forcing a log out.
If you're able to do that,
that means that there's
some server in control of the account right oh oh oh oh yeah thank you thank you for that
breakdown thank you thank you for that yeah yeah thank you all right anything else otherwise i'm All right. Anything else? Otherwise, I'm going to wrap up. RJ, Alberto, anything? Go ahead.
Okay. I wanted to ask a question, but there will not be time for it.
So is there a community that can just go on to ask the question?
If you have any random questions about Edge,
always feel free to just go to support.edge.app or just our website,
open the chat bot and throw it at us that, you know, you'll get me,
Alberto, Daniel, Jared, you know, or David.
That's kind of the extent of our chat team, but yeah,
we'll answer whatever you have. It doesn't have to be necessarily support.
I've always been really open about our support team being general questions.
Hell, if you have a question about trezor go ahead ask us we're
here like we all use these different platforms i want the our support team to be crypto support
in general obviously we're going to be biased but we'll answer whatever you can literally while
you're on edge um tap the help button and you can literally call us directly that'll call our
support channels i'm a support agent. Michael is a support agent.
We have three other actual agents
that you can call to ask directly
or you can open up a chat
through the help button as well.
So that might make it easier
just to remember in the future.
Yeah, use our support team.
I promise.
If you have questions about anything,
if you think something might be a scam, if you want to check on a coin and just want other opinions on it.
I know a lot of us that are into crypto don't have like a close support network, right?
Like we're the weird ones in our friend circle that are into crypto and you might need to ask questions. Reach out. We're here. I promise.
reach out. We're here. I promise.
Like we'll answer whatever question you have.
We'll answer whatever question you have.
Okay, okay.
No problem. I'll give that to mine because I had something
that wasn't available for
people in my region, but I will just
ask it there.
Cool.
Cool. All right. So
that was, what episode
did I say this was? Episode 8.
So I appreciate you
guys.
Yeah, if it's quick, we're over a little bit.
What's up?
All right, all right, all right.
So I think I overheat you saying something like,
if I wanted to reach out, I can DM you.
And then I see your profile only to find out it's all in open words.
I think you actually answered the question
by saying you should open the support ticket.
So, yeah.
Yeah, whatever questions you may have in...
Yeah, go ahead. Sorry.
I think that I'll actually go through the support
and then drop our data
to drop
so we align some stuff
because I'm not saying
that needs to be filled up
and then I'll just drop my contribution
and see if it fits best
and it can actually work out
or around it
so yeah, that'll be later
okay
yeah, so reach out
to us on support. I appreciate everyone
that was here, everyone
that spoke. Thank you so much.
I believe we're back
the 22nd?
Yeah, we'll be back
the 22nd.
The 22nd, same time,
same place.
Yeah. Thanks everyone for joining us same time, same place. Yeah. Yeah.
Thanks, everyone, for joining us.
Yeah, thank you.
That was our first great episode back.
Yeah, thank you, guys.
All right.
We'll catch you guys.
Thank you so much.
Happy New Year.
Thanks, guys.
Happy New Year. Thank you.
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