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Crypto Front Lines EP. 9
Recorded: Jan. 22, 2026 Duration: 1:10:45Space Recording
Short Summary
In a recent discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the alarming rise of scams in the industry, with reports indicating a doubling of losses from $100 million in 2023 to $200 million in 2024. Key topics included investment scams, ATM frauds, and the impact of AI on phishing schemes, highlighting the urgent need for education and awareness in the crypto community.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Hello.
Hey, how's it going?
I was playing with the settings.
It's so interesting.
I can hear music on my end, but when I go to just check on another profile, there's no music.
So it's just music for me, I guess, as the host.
It's quite lovely.
I'm like, all right, cool.
Nice little piano melody.
For the people that are here, we're just going to give it a couple minutes
aim to start
on the hour
what's up RJ
let me grab
like I said Let me grab RJ.
Like I said, I can do a virtual cable next time and just route music.
If that's what you want, that's fine with me.
Yeah, I think a good song is good while people are joining just to get the vibes up too.
Especially you have a lot of good music.
I remember the last time you were playing music. It was when we were still in the small office. I'm glad you guys hear me alright? Yeah, you sound good. drum and bass and that kind of nonsense. How you doing, RJ?
I'm good. You guys hear me all right?
Yeah, you sound good.
How you guys doing?
We're good.
Letting the room fill up a little bit.
Planning on start at the hour.
All right.
Let's see. Okay, that's good.
Trying out Notebook LM for this one for the first time. Have you guys messed with that at all?
I've been with the clip notes on that.
It's another Google product, similar to Gemini, but it's the way that it functions. You give it sources and then it uses that as reference material.
So for example, well, here we go, four o'clock.
So today's topic is going to be scams, frauds, prevention, things like that.
Coming out of the holidays, you know, we always have that.
So what I did is I added that all of my source material and it broke it out.
I almost want to send a screenshot to you so you can see what I'm looking at. Cause it's, it's pretty neat, man.
Okay.
Interesting.
Um, and what's cool is as you build notebooks out, you can actually feed
them into Gemini as well.
If you're a Gemini user, you know, I, I've been using Gemini mostly
cause I bought a pixel, so it's just free, you know?
Yeah.
But yeah, so that's what notebook LM looks like uh kind of akin to like how cursor breaks down the information actually
so it might be like kind of familiar in that regard speaking of air have you guys ever seen
any like whether it's like chat gpt or gemini other a chat tools but it can interact
with like a live dashboard so maybe you're looking at like um air traffic and you see all the planes
and different locations different altitudes different speeds and there's a dashboard where
you can chat with the ai with the dashboard with um the live air traffic control dashboard,
and, like, I don't know, summarize all ongoing flight activity
or all planes within 50 miles of Houston
traveling more than 1,000 miles per hour or something.
There's none like that exists yet, right?
Not that I'm aware of, no.
Yeah, not that I know of.
I know they do track like uh millionaires play they were tracking
like elon musk plane and stuff like that there's so there's a nap for that right i think but other
than that i don't know much too about it something that's like hooked up directly to like those
flight locators or air force one right yeah i think it's all it's all um public information right i think so there
is ways to access it they they track the military a lot too i know when they're like you know planning
to do the iran thing and all that like people were tracking like b2 bombers leaving and like
and fuel planes a lot of fuel planes leaving which is an indicator right the refueling planes right
yeah so that was like a tell which is like instantly again the next day i was like they
are they are bombing or they are going to balance so like, so that was a tell, which is instantly, yeah, the next day, I was like, ooh, they are bombing, or
they are going to balance. So people
track that, which is really interesting.
Right.
Alright, well,
4 o'clock.
Hello.
What is ecstasy?
Nope, they're gone too. Oh, no.
We're just talking to
ourselves.
I mean, nothing new for me.
It's still good for future listeners.
Yeah, because it does record.
Hi Elizabeth.
Alright, well, I'm going to kick it off. I'll pretend that there's one million people here, which does that mean I have to talk louder? No, that's not how the technology works.
At any rate, welcome to Crypto Frontlines episode nine.
I'm joined by RJ, who is the head of QA, and Alberto, who wears a lot of hats.
He does support, works in QA, helps with marketing.
If you guys want to say hello, pitch in.
Hey, guys.
How's it going?
Many hats, guys.
RJ here, QA.
What's up, guys?
And I'm Michael, head of the support team.
I kind of wear other hats, but really that's all I do is I'm head of the support team. I kind of wear other hats, but really that's all I do is I'm head of the support team.
Today, we're going to talk about fraud and scams coming out of the holiday season.
We saw quite an uptick in both the news cycle and just complaints and things like that.
So sure, it's a little bit of an evergreen topic, but one that I'd like to just address
maybe yearly.
Who knows?
I like touching on it just to make people aware of what's out there
if they're not already.
As far as Edge, you want to take announcements, RJ?
Go ahead.
Yeah, sure.
So for those that don't know, Edge is a non-custodial wallet.
It's an exchange also, an in-app exchange.
We value privacy.
We've been around since 2014, formerly as AirBits,
before we pivoted and started supporting different assets.
And we became Edge 2016, 2017.
And yeah, we've been around since then, still ongoing.
Cool, cool. cool cool uh so with uh 4 42 uh we saw a little bit of um improvements did anyone else want to
touch on that or i could just start rattling off but yeah yeah i can i i i know i talk pretty much
the whole time so you guys do some so we got um so for you guys we got a new release out so be sure to check and update uh this
past was it yesterday yet yeah yesterday just came out 4 42 so just a few upgrades we added more
support for auto detecting tokens for non-evm so basically like on the cosmic chains or tcy and
then also add support for more auto detect on the other different evms that we didn't have support for and then we did fix some rango swaps issues which we have now re-enabled rango our next provider and
lefi as well so that should work for you guys now yeah rango was disabled uh for a minute the
exchanges were not processing um so we had a kind of emergency disable that. But yeah, that should be working now. For anyone that wants to use Rango, they have to update to 442, right?
Yep.
Okay. So if you're a Rango user, just please make sure to update to 442 so you can continue
to use it. I mean, the rates are good on it when the pairs are available. So let's see.
I did want to ask a little bit because I'm quite removed from QA at this point.
For auto detect on other EVMs, how does that function as far as the list of available assets?
What is it referencing?
Yeah, so it's pretty much like the same behavior.
So if you have like say like like Thorechain like Ruin enabled and you send TCY to it, it will auto detect.
So the behavior is pretty much the same as you would see with EVMs. like like authority chain like ruin enabled and you send tcy to it it will auto detect so the
behavior um is pretty much the same as you would see with evms or say you have adam on the cosmos
chain if you send um osmosis on adam or a token on adam you would be able to auto detect those tokens
okay so just by having the wallet available it it'll scan, look for it.
Is this obscure tokens and everything?
It's pretty much if the Block Explorer sees it, it will see it?
Default tokens.
So for example, if you have Atom enabled your wallet and you don't have any tokens
and I were to send you, I don't know, a stable coin or some other default token on Atom,
I don't know, a stable coin or some other default token on, on, on Adam,
you would see a model pop-up where you could see like, oh,
auto detect tokens or the notifications, right?
So similar to EVMs where if you had Ethereum enabled, but not USDC,
and I sent you USDC,
you would see that get auto detected or in the notifications as well.
Gotcha. So any, anything that we have is default,
which is an ever expanding list, right? I think Jared's on that on a regular basis. Okay, cool. Gotcha. So anything that we have is default, which is an ever-expanding list, right?
I think Jared's on that on a regular basis.
Okay, cool. Yeah, I mean, that's a great thing to see.
Do you know if, poking the bear a little bit,
do you know if we're doing auto-detect actual chains anytime soon?
Yeah, I think that's further out in the future.
So there's still a task out there for us to work on that,
but we would love to get that. Yeah, for reference,'s further out in the future. So there's still a task out there for us to work on that,
but we would love to get that.
Yeah, for reference, what I'm talking about
for anyone that's listening.
So essentially right now, if you send USDT to an ETH address
and you don't have USDT enabled,
USDT will become available to add and view.
What we've been talking about forever, and we're
hoping this feature comes out soon is this idea that if I have an Ethereum wallet, and say someone
accidentally sends me BNB smart chain to it, right, that may have the main net asset, the edge app
will go, hey, we see that there's asset on another chain, and offer the same thing, just like with the tokens to kind of just make it not as difficult to recover.
And honestly, it kind of just makes all EVMs the same at that point, which is ideal.
Yeah, the auto detect change would be very ideal.
Right now, the way it would work is you would have to split your wallet.
So as Michael said, if I have an Ethereum wallet michael sent me a bnb smart chain i
wouldn't see it i would have to go to my wallet options and split my ethereum wallet into a bnb
smart chain wallet and then i would be able to see by bnb smart chain that michael accidentally sent
to my ethereum address and and that's because more private i mean more security right like we we split seeds for all
the evms and so that makes every like wallet secure like uh meaning they don't share you know
if you get compromised for one seed all of your evms are compromised versus like this is well
in terms of splitting it's still going to be the same seed right same address um that it just makes it easier to recover funds if wrong tokens or assets were
sent to the wrong chain like bnb smart chain sent to ethereum but in terms of security it is still
more secure where you create a separate bnb smart chain wallet because it'll have a completely
different address meaning a different completely different seed. So that in the event that say your Ethereum wallet that was connected to
some DEX and that was compromised and your ETH gets emptied out, your BNB
smart chain, which you created, not split, created, has a separate seed,
completely different, your funds on BNB smart chain would be completely safe.
But in the other scenario,
if you simply have an Ethereum wallet
and you split it to every chain,
well, every other chain is also compromised
because it's split from the same seed.
Right, which Edge does that differently, right?
Because MetaMask, they all share the same seed.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, they generate from same seed.
So it's actually, the split function was actually,
if I recall correctly, I mean, it was added when I was at Ed.
I mean, I just celebrated my fifth year here.
It was actually a point of contention, if I remember correctly.
One of the older devs did not want to add import or split functionality
because it does kind of create a less secure environment.
I mean, that's just the truth of it.
The more wallets you derive from the same private key, the more assets will be there.
Now it's an attack vector and things like that.
So I don't know.
It's convenience.
We always have to weigh those two things, right?
Convenience versus security.
And Edge is very secure.
So if you're splitting it, you're probably okay.
But there is a point to be made that is technically less secure.
Yeah, it's probably, I don't know if you have any guidelines or support,
but maybe that after you split your wallet,
it's still recommended to create a separate bnb smart chain
wallet and send the bnb smart chain that was just split into the other bnb smart chain so that way
has a different seed i can see in many cases maybe for just ease of use that users might just split
the wallet and continue using that split wallet never realizing it was you know it's the same
seed stuff right and there's some power function, power user functionality too.
Like I personally have imported keys and have them across a whole bunch of different chains
because it's something that I want to manage because I'm using DeFi or whatever.
So, I mean, yeah, that happens.
But what was I going to say to circle back to, oh, as far as moving to another wallet, if you're not aware, for any users out there, we do have a migrate function.
So that all can be automated as well.
You don't have to, like, create a wallet and go get your receiving address.
You can always just migrate.
That's in the settings as well.
Just as a heads up, as we talk, feel free to raise your hands.
It's all about you guys chatting with us.
We kind of just give some bullet points and start the conversation.
And if you want to hop in, discuss, ask questions, whatever it may be, please do so.
Right.
Can I make a quick announcement, too?
Just also welcome everyone who's been joining in.
Thanks for hanging out. Just a quick update on the brand ambassador applications for any applicants or anyone who's hoping to be a brand ambassador. Just know we've received all the information from everybody. And so we're going to review it pretty soon.
Thanks for hanging out.
Just a quick update on the brand ambassador.
down to a few brand ambassadors and we'll be getting back to you soon.
Hopefully within, you know,
I don't want to give a hard day and give false expectations,
but hopefully by the end of this month, let's just say. So yeah. So stay tuned.
Cool.
All right. So anything else about announcements or features within Edge?
Let's see. I think Paul's going to be heading out to Anacopulco and Monerotopia next month.
So, yeah, check edge.apps slash events.
You'll see that already posted up.
Who's all going out there with him?
Do you know?
I don't know.
I know Paul for sure, but I don't know if anyone else is going with him.
So, hi, guys. This is Elizabeth. I'm on the marketing team with Edge. And I will actually
also be attending Monerotopia and Anarchapoco. So yeah, super excited. And then I know, I
think Sam, one of our developers is going to Monerotopia and Daniel from our support
And Daniel from our support team will be going to Anarchapoco.
team will be going to Anarchapoco. So it will be a fun group.
So it will be a fun group.
Okay.
Yeah.
Super excited.
We've been doing a lot of stuff with Xano and figuring out different activations and stuff for the event.
So if you're in the area, definitely come by.
It'll be a great time.
You'll probably definitely see the Pirate Chain team out there.
Oh, yeah.
We also are chatting with Pirate Chainain team out there. Oh, yeah. We also are chatting with PirateChain, too. So Daniel J., their first mate, he is a big edge user,
and so he's excited to get together at the event
and have some more fun stuff together.
So we'll probably do some interviews and things.
So, yeah, if you're at the event, come by and say hi.
Nice.
Cool.
All right.
So to kind of dive in today's topic if there's nothing else
you know once again everyone wants to speak oh mike i think we got a couple uh simply um
bitcoin sure yeah what's up
okay um good day everyone good day and team sorry i had something about um
I had something about chain abstraction, like gas abstraction.
I don't know if I had it correctly.
Iga is building something about that.
I hear a question, right?
Gas abstraction?
No, gas abstraction.
That would be awesome to build that as a wallet,
but I think that's a
mainly on chain thing right which is a new thing for a lot of different uh like new new chains like
they're making completely feeless sends or they're making it able like you can pay fees in any type
of token not just the uh you know the eth or whatever the native token or the parent token
uh i don't think we can build that on edge, I guess, right?
The gas abstraction, fee list sends and all that,
unless it's already built.
We have OX built for exchanges,
which does function like what you're asking.
From my understanding, there's a protocol
that either has to be integrated,
so it's wallet side or recipient side
in order to be able to receive
and have gas abstraction or gas lists, if you will.
So, no, there isn't a plan now because I don't know of any protocol that lets us do that for wallet to wallet, unless I'm completely off base here.
But OX is a great protocol for exchanges because it does abstract it.
But from sends or wallet to wallet i don't
believe there is anything that is readily available open source that we can use
i do feel that's the future though like feel this you know yeah that's a good question i mean paying
for your fees in the the asset that you have would be wildly convenient.
But yeah, I mean, that's just kind of like one of these weird things where Ethereum tokens, I think, are being used as monetary units a little bit more than maybe Vitalik even intended.
You know, I think that was the ETH was supposed to be like the internet thing and it just turned into money.
So, you know.
Right. We do have
I said
I don't want to butcher the name.
It's cut off on my net, but
E-Bub? E-Bub, right?
He's raising his hand.
E-Bub just spoke. I think
Simply was waiting.
Was it Simply?
Yeah.
Yo, what's up, guys?
What's up, Michael? What's up, RJ? How you doing?
Hey, man. How are you?
Hey, how's it going?
How you doing?
Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while.
How are you holding up on the backing of everything?
See you guys. I've been pretty busy lately.
We've been out at the front lines, but it's good seeing you again.
I think you were at the last one a couple of weeks ago, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Always, always, always have a remember, yeah.
So yeah, RJ, it's true, so I just remember,
H, I think I left something on your DMV all that time
and did not get attended to.
Make sure to check.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what's today about?
What's today about?
You fill me in.
I think I showed up a bit late.
Well, what we're going to talk about today, coming out of the holidays, we saw quite the uptick in scams and fraud.
So we're going to kind of touch base on that, though it's a bit of an evergreen topic that, I mean, I've touched on in our previous when we used to do spaces back in the day and I've talked about many times before.
I wanted to rehash that and make people aware of what's out there.
There's a couple new trends that we're seeing as well.
trends that we're seeing as well.
So that is the topic today.
So that is the topic today.
Happy for any input, any
user experiences that you guys have had, or
prevention, or anything like that.
That is the topic today.
Oh, I see. I see. So today
it's more about feedback from users.
That's actually good.
Right?
I think I was, I think
I dropped my feedback earlier on the last um on the last space yeah
a space from last week i was you know talking about how age feels i think that was when we're
talking about sending gifts yeah sending gifts using age for the tasks like that so
the feature the feature is actually one of the coolest features
honestly so far the top you know if it's it's like wrapping up the stuff and then
sending it down the person is like oh surprise somebody actually did this for me and you know
stuff like that so basically it's it's cool it. And also, it's nice connecting with you all again.
I'll be here and then I'll be very, very active, you know,
contributing and stuff.
Cool.
Yeah, appreciate you.
I definitely remember your contributions last time.
It's always nice to have someone hang out and be a regular.
So to kind of get to the topic, you know, we were thinking about it and just because of
being in support, we're seeing an uptick of it. And then I'll actually Alberto, you sent me a
an article that touched on one of our partners or white labels, if you will. Anyone that doesn't
know what a white label is, I can try to make sure that everyone understands that what we're
talking about. Edge is an open source platform where we do lease or let people use our software and then build their own thing.
Bitcoin Depot, for example, is one of those.
It's a white label of ours.
So do you want to touch on the Alberta or do you want me to just riff on the article that you sent me?
that you sent me.
Yeah, I think I could touch on it.
Yeah, I think I can touch on it.
I just watched the video.
It's pretty just kind of get refreshed.
But essentially, ABC, a major news organization in the States,
was presenting this piece or this piece of journalism
that was essentially focusing on ATM scams.
Specifically in this piece, they were showcasing a Bitcoin Depot ATM, which is, again, it's a partner of ours, completely legitimate ATM.
Say what you will about fees and all that, but ATMs are legitimate ways to buy crypto.
So what a lot of scammers are using is essentially the ATM.
They'll social engineer anyone who falls for the scam or the social engineering, so to speak.
Sometimes it's elderly people.
In this instance, it was an elderly person.
So it actually has body cam footage from a police officer.
And the clerk from the store is trying to stop the woman because she's about to send around like $20,000 to the scammers.
And the police in the body cam footage is trying
to beg, you know, stop the scammer. Eventually, he takes the phone, and he's talking to the scammer
on the phone. And I think he actually prevents the scam. But the real telling thing is that this is
so common and has gone so mainstream that now, you know, mainstream media is reporting on it.
I think even the stats that are showing that in 2023,
it was like $100 million in scams. And in 2024, it was like $200 million. So it's effectively
jumped or doubled in price. So it's an alarming thing. It's a scary thing. And I think it's
perfect to start the year with this in a sense or early on address this and remind people.
If we have time, I mean, now that I'm thinking about it, I have my own personal story
of being scammed, not socially engineered.
Well, I guess in a way. So if we have time,
I would love to share.
Well, how I was going to do it
is I have the bullet points from
everyone's favorite organization,
the FBI website.
Everyone loves the FBI.
They're listening right now.
So everyone loves them. They're great.
The best. So everyone loves them. They're great. The best.
So when we get to whatever bullet point, you know, yours falls under, if you want to riff on it, please, please do.
Yeah, absolutely.
I have a question, maybe to kind of start it off also.
and support, what would you say the biggest or type of biggest type of fraud scam you've seen
in Edge for, you know, for 2025? And then maybe also highlight what's the biggest this month,
the start of 2026? Is it like love scams? Is it ATM scams? Is it bank scams? What's your guy's
opinion? Still to this day, I think the biggest one is investment scams.
So essentially, whatever random.com, makeyourrich.com or whatever nonsense they buy,
they'll get people in a Telegram group, feed them a bunch of bullshit,
feed them a bunch of bullshit, make them believe that they can get rich overnight.
make them believe that they can get rich overnight.
And then there's always this slow on-ramp of, for $200, you'll become a member.
And then, oh, well, we see that you made $10,000.
It'll be $500 in taxes to release that.
And they just kind of milk you for as much money as possible.
That's the most common scam that I see.
Yeah, I would agree. i definitely see that frequently so investment like advice investment group channels and sounds like maybe so sorry it sounds like um like a pump and dump like to pump
a coin and they just dump it on them you know if it was pump and dump at least there's like some legitimacy well air quotes i mean you guys can't see my air quotes uh at least there's
like some legitimacy right like there's a there's a tangible um on-chain thing happening um when when
we talk about the investment scams what we typically see is it'll be like a website and it'll be
someone coaching them like hey this is you is, you know, a great opportunity.
All you need to do is put $200 and go to this website.
And then that website will be built with people on the back end that are, you know, fake support
agents and everything.
And they just kind of walk this person through it.
It's highly organized for what, for what it's worth.
Yeah.
That's, that's the most common that we see.
It'll be like Forex Trading
or EliteTradingPartners.com
or like, yeah, it's like this,
all of them have this like feeling
of like they're advanced trading platforms
and these people are here
to grow your money kind of thing.
Got it.
Well, this kind of counts down,
like I remember one of the users
I worked with way back,
it looks like a legitimate website. It's a cloud mining website. It looks like you're mining Bitcoin, but then when you try to withdraw it, you never are able to withdraw any money. Yeah, and they keep asking for more and more and more, basically.
Yeah, okay.
Until you catch on. And the worst part is there's a there's a human psychological
problem to this right like the sunk cost fallacy right there's many many people that'll go well
i'm 200 in what's another 500 when they're looking at you know 10 grand or 20 grand or
whatever that is fake it's not real but they see that and they go well what's on their 500 at this
point i'm already 200 in and then they do that until they eventually get ahold of us and say, Hey, how do I get
my money back?
Which obviously it's too late because they've already been coached to download
something like edge or edge.
I mean, that's why we see it edge being so anonymous.
It's sadly a tool that these bad actors can use, you know?
sadly, a tool that these bad actors can use, you know. So they walk them through how to purchase
crypto so that there isn't, you know, chargebacks and things like that. And once the crypto is in
their wallet, then they send it. Even what we do see sometimes too, for anyone that wants to help
their friends or, you know, older family, I know that's a huge demographic of targets.
You know, always make sure that you set up your own account. That's the other side of how some of the money gets stolen
is we'll see like these investment websites coaching them. And what ends up happening is
they'll set up the account for them. Now, not only are they buying crypto and sending it to them,
but even if they catch on, they don't have I mean, they've given
their credentials already, right? Yeah, they, their credentials are already there. Sometimes
I've only seen this once, they'll, you know, like our partners like Moonpay and simplex and things
like that. What they'll do is they'll give you an off code, for example. So I've seen people coach
through this to where they won't have access to
their, they'll have given their credentials or they've been given an account. They add simplex.
Now they're getting the off code and the bad actors acting with the off code is, and they're
purchasing for them. You know, like that's a whole nother level of craziness.
I forgot to mention in the Bitcoin Depot piece or scam, the lady was socially engineered into believing that her bank had been hacked.
And therefore, she needed to withdraw all the money and then send it somewhere else to be safe.
So that's how they essentially convinced her to go to the ATM.
Wow.
And they'll copy paste that.
It'll be like, you know, it could be a romantic scam.
It'll be like, hey, I'm stranded in this state i love you they've been talking for for months and so that's why a
lot of people go to the atm and i think that's why they're kind of like on high alert now the
clerks and police yeah so in regards to these websites like that are known for for scams whether
it's like a cloud mining or some other
investment where they you know where they actually have a website and looks legit right
um do you know like of any stats of like these websites actually get shut down or someone gets
arrested like so for example like say you're working with a user last year they went into
this website they got scammed and then maybe you followed up oh it looks like the site's been shut
down and maybe you find a news article they've been arrested or is it like to this day like that
website is still up and operational scamming people um i've never heard of arrests or anything
like that just sadly like that it's just you know these people are remote as I mentioned highly organized yeah so in the event
that they get in trouble or the website is known they can just copy and paste
and launch it again right yeah you know what we do from our end when a website
submitted we will go to the hosting or the name register and report it. But one of the big problems there is it's our word versus them.
And for what it's worth, I can't even fault the hosting company.
We have to try to prove that it's a scam site,
but we're not the ones giving them money.
The scammers are giving them money to host.
So who are we to say that they shouldn't have that website?
So ultimately, I've always taken this stance of of I believe education is the way to prevent this.
Now, unfortunately, most people don't educate themselves until after.
But that is how I believe you stop scams is make sure people are educated about what is available out there to lose money to.
To me, it's always been a wild goose chase.
There's no reason to report and try to shut down
all these fake websites.
It's education first.
To me, it's a waste of time.
I know some people have different opinions,
but I find that it's a waste of time.
And this is coming from like head of support,
you know, criticize me if you want, I'm sorry,
but I don't see the point of chasing all these websites. I'd rather spend that time educating users, trying to find, you know criticize me if you want i'm sorry but i don't see the point of chasing all these websites i'd rather spend that time educating users trying to find you know like the the warning
inside of edge the scan warning that was my my thing i got that in there because i'm so concerned
about people losing their entire fortunes like we've i know rj you've been on those phone calls
i've been on those phone calls it's one of the most painful things to endure and i'm not even
the one that happened to so that that's where i'm at with it but that's a very long-winded way of
answering no i have yet to see anyone arrested sites have been taken down we've successfully
had a few sites but i have never seen arrest either that i know of yeah i agree with you
yeah it's a little disheartening sometimes to tell users
we have a great follow-up and we educate
them and we give them a bunch of resources, but
it's disheartening
to know that
the police essentially are
either overwhelmed
or not interested or has to be a very, very
large amount to get involved
and it's almost like
it's very frustrating. It's almost like it's it's it's very frustrating like there's
there's almost like universities need to offer like some kind of curriculum or a degree and
becoming unscammable that i agree with i'll start that class today if anyone uh
is running an institution i'll do it i'll start it you know hopefully i can do edge too but i'll put my 90 days in or 30 days or whatever and i'll
go i'll go be an educator if i can stop scams that's like one of the things that i am very
very passionate about here at edge i can't stand how people can be taken advantage of like that
yeah and not just in crypto we're talking about like all types of different scams even outside of crypto which yeah so kind of like what i had over here is i had a couple we we touched on the big one
business and investment fraud that is essentially what we're talking about this idea that people are
looking to get rich but it does have a couple other variations if you will you know there's
like ponzi schemes for example you know you mentioned
the the token thing like getting rugged that's more or less the ponzi scenario right it's like
get in get in get in you get convinced to get in and then whoever's at the top pulls all the money
out or or maybe something like um elon musk tweets send bitcoin here i'll send you double or
trump i'm sure those are rare but i remember having one user that actually did that Or maybe something like Elon Musk tweets, send Bitcoin here, I'll send you double or Trump.
I'm sure those are rare, but I remember having one user that actually did that.
Man, Elon Musk is out there scamming hard.
No wonder he's so rich.
This man is out there.
I don't know how, but he's always in the scam.
always in the
scam. He's always part of the narrative.
He's always part of the narrative.
I would see
YouTube videos, Elon Musk talking,
but then it's not really him or
his video, but then there's like
AI voiceover doing a voiceover.
Yeah, I've seen those. I remember seeing that on the airplane.
Yeah, yeah.
Unbelievable. I remember seeing
XRP, hey, this is Brad
Garlinghouse, to celebrate
the whatever of Ripple.
We're sending – this is our YouTube ads.
These are paid for YouTube in its own ways.
Yeah, exactly.
They're helping out.
They're facilitating scams.
It's wild.
I wonder if there's any penalties that YouTube pays for airing scam ads
or if there's any penalties for that youtube pays for like airing scam ads or if there's any
yeah penalties for allowing that or not doing due diligence so probably not no probably not one of the other ones that uh i wanted to touch on that actually daniel's caught a couple of these i've
only seen one but it's this one's tricky so it's job scams are you guys aware of those yeah that one's another
common one I think is job scam I've seen those when I was in support also it's kind of more like
like being a mule though so yeah so it's kind of mulling and the other part of it that they'll do
is they'll set you up with an account and one one of the variations that that I that I actually
helped someone with was this idea that they were getting paid.
They thought they were going to get paid.
And who was it?
Someone just asked about this.
The abstraction, right?
Fee abstraction.
So essentially what they would do is they would have $1,200 of USDT in the wallet.
usdt in the wallet and the bad actor this fake job or whatever was like hey you need to put
a hundred dollars of eth in that wallet to pay for the fees and then you can spend it
what they didn't know is it was like a smart contract that just looked like it had the money
there and as soon as they were adding the money to pay for fees it was just being siphoned off and
yeah it's just gonna be out yeah so that's another variation of it
uh let's see what else we have over here so elder fraud you know this one this one's
sad but all too true uh i've seen it quite a bit uh our older population being taken advantage of
uh i've been on the phone called many unfortunately
i think that might kind of belong to your like hybrid of like romance scams elder fraud because
it kind of happens like typically to older people um back then i know i had a handful of like romance
scams and they were um with like older people that were sending money to people that they've never met um does that still happen
or still kind of rare it's gone down it's rare but unfortunately those are the toughest to crack
and you know i'll go on record saying this this is always this weird gray area too i've i know
i've talked about this with you rj and we have and i believe uh anyone in the support team so like
romance scams for anyone listening that
doesn't know what a romance scam is essentially this it's this concept that you meet someone online
and you form a pseudo relationship and they're going to constantly ask for money they don't ask
for egregious amounts typically it's you know oh i need money for rent or i need money for a flight
or i sometimes they will like trick you into thinking they're going to come see you
and then it's always some excuse why they can't.
But essentially they're getting two to say $600 at a time from you
over very long stretches of time.
And we'll assume that the bad actor or whatever
is doing this to multiple people and that's why they continue to do it
because I don't think $600 is sustainable for most.
But regardless, the trickiest part about this
is by the time someone runs into an issue,
so say they can't purchase,
what ends up happening is they'll reach out to us.
We can identify that it's a romance scam.
But what the user sees,
and this is part sunk cost and who knows, they might actually have a relationship.
And this is where I always find it's a gray area.
The person that's sending the money, sure, they're being scammed, but maybe that's the only person they talk to that they have an actual relationship with.
Yeah, so they're still getting entertainment out of it.
Yeah, we're telling them that that person's bad.
They're taking advantage of you.
And, you know, the person sending the money is just like, well, whatever, they listen to me.
It's a weird thing.
Well, it's kind of like hotlines back in the day.
People would pay money to talk to, like, girls, right?
So it's the same concept, essentially.
But, I mean, at least you know what you're doing that's the difference i guess right and honestly that's what i that's kind of my angle
with romance scams typically is i try to make them aware of what's happening and let them make the
decision but and i learned this early on i can't just be blunt with them and say hey that person's
a scammer because ultimately even if it is a scammer, they don't care because they
formed this deep relationship with them, whether it's fake or not.
And I don't even know it's fake.
That's the fucked up part.
I don't know if I can even call it fake.
They also like, they like the illusion.
At least like if you're calling, you know, like Albert said, if you're calling,
you know what yourself, you know what you're getting yourself into, but then
they like the illusion that it feels real and they're paying for that attention, but then not knowing
that it could be real.
So they kind of live in that
illusion, if you will.
Yeah. It reminds me
of pro wrestling fans. It's
real to me!
So we had one person that wanted
So we had one person that wanted to speak.
to speak. Movex?
Movex?
Movex?
And I think actually everyone's auto permission to become a speaker.
I don't know how I did that, but I did.
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Last time I messed up.
Yeah, I did a couple of people.
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Hey, Movex.
How are you, buddy?
I'm fine. I'm fine. I am GM. Hey, how are you, bud? I'm fine.
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My network is very bad, yeah.
Yeah, we can hear you.
Okay, so I introduced someone to Edge Wallet, so he asked me a simple question.
So I said, let me ask you guys.
He said that self-custody can be self-custody can be
intimidating for new users.
So how is Edge Wallet
making it easier for beginners
while keeping its security
long?
Do you want me to take it or someone else?
How to make it easier?
Yeah, he referred.
From my understanding, the question is, how does Edge make self-custody easy, right? Okay.
So ultimately, one of the things that Edge does that I don't think anyone else does is
we abstract the key management.
So that's why it's actually more approachable than most,
because everyone knows what a username and password is at this point.
And that's all we request of our users, is to know what a username and password is.
The key management is done completely, abstracted from the user.
They're accessible.
You can still get the keys if you'd like them.
But that's how we make it easy
and approachable for users. Also, there's IP validation and these other things on by default
that even if you use a poor password, someone guesses it, you'll be notified that someone's
trying to get into your account, things of that nature. So it's very, very secure by default
and does the key abstraction. And with that key abstraction, basically, like compared to other wallets,
I think Edge is like the most familiar app in terms of like,
if you've used a bank application,
it's pretty familiar in terms of using Edge compared to other crypto wallets
where it might look confusing where you have to write down in a long seat or
something.
That was an effort made back in what, 24, when we did the ui overhaul that it was actually
very very intentional to make it function like a bank app or look and feel more like a bank app
yep thank you thank you very much for answering my question i really appreciate that. Thank you very much. You're welcome.
Anyone else with questions? Yeah, just feel free to raise your hand and we'll give it a spotlight.
But otherwise, I think we were just talking about romance scams and old people scams.
Yeah, so romance scams. Yeah, that's the big one. That one's a weird, weird conversation. Because, you know,
I've had men that are just like, I don't even care because you know, they'll be getting dirty pictures or whatever, whatever the hell you want to say that they're getting. So they don't care.
They're like, whatever. And then I've had long conversations where it really is an emotional
attachment that they've formed with this bad actor that it's like okay
well i guess keep giving him money if it makes you happy yeah i don't know romance games are
a very weird one that one's the toughest it is very tough i remember having a heart-to-heart
with the uh with the with the gentleman just he was a little bit older not too old but
just having to like hey like i totally get where
he's coming from in a sense like i'm i'm a single person i'm on dating apps i see all the fake
profiles and if you're not an educated person like you can fall for it and you're super vulnerable
right like you want to typically if you're on a dating app you you want to find someone because
you want a partner you might feel lonely whatever it might be and like they're it's it's just so
vicious like they're playing into people's
emotions and all
these people want to do is just find a partner
and not be
alone. It was rough
to have to convince someone. Luckily, I was able
to convince him. He totally understood
and hopefully
scared him away from that.
Well, shit. One of the worst things
is the, well, I'm going to check with
them.
Okay.
I'm sure they'll admit to it.
Let's see. What else do we have over here on the
FBI list, our favorite organization?
Tech support
scams? Yeah, that one's real. I've had
people impersonate me even.
Spoofing, phishing also.
Like, they will have an address that's similar to yours,
and then on the blockchain, if you copy, paste your own address,
you might see a recent transaction that looks like yours,
and you might copy and paste that address and send that.
I feel inclined to say this.
I mean, just so everyone here knows and that it's publicly recorded,
we do support through support.edge.app.
That is it.
Right.
If you're getting support on Telegram or, you know, X or anything, that's not us.
It's purposely restricted.
We've ventured out and I've tried.
I've even advocated for it but the more we tried to do all these different
platforms and we see more and more attacks siloed down now it's just support.edge.app
that's where you go that way we don't have to worry about the the idea that there's scammers
out there spoofing or acting as us they are and they are we've we've we've had many instances
where yeah we've been notified that they're spoofing us,
and so be careful.
Also, I posted the FBI website in the comments.
If you want to check it out,
that's what we're going from and what we're looking at.
It's a pretty cool list with a bunch of cool graphics on it
and explanations.
Yeah, because I love the FBI.
And also, the ABC link is in the comments.
Shout out to Kash Patel. Yeah, he's the best. is in the comments. Shout out to Cash Patel.
He's the best.
He's the best.
You know, you haven't chimed in with whatever happened to you, Alberto, so I'm going to keep going.
I think we passed over it on accident, but I think this falls under ransomware.
Yeah, that's actually literally what I was going to say next was ransomware.
Yeah, that's actually literally what I was going to say next was ransomware.
Ransomware.
Ransomware.
I, my personal kind of, okay, so I, you know, I'm a user of crypto.
I use, you know, the DEXs and I participate a lot in the ecosystem.
And I was using the SUI ecosystem.
And I was checking to see if I was eligible for an airdrop, which is common.
Like, if you're in the SUI ecosystem, you know about SUINS, right?
Like, their naming service.
And there was a bunch of cool airdrops.
And, like, I was eligible for a lot of them.
And so I checked.
I wasn't eligible.
No big deal.
The next day or whatever it might be, like, a week later.
And this is on me.
I feel, you know, I'm able to talk about it now.
But at the time it
did definitely hurt. And it was definitely embarrassing or just like, just felt awful
to think about and talk about. But now I can talk about it. So the next week, essentially,
there was a social engineering part of this because on my Twitter feed, even though I didn't
follow these people out of nowhere, I'm seeing a clone of the Sue Wins Twitter page saying, check for eligibility round two.
I'm like, oh, cool.
It's really early in the morning.
It was a weekend.
Woke up groggy.
A little hungover.
Maybe that's too much information.
Moving too fast.
Or maybe that's good information.
Be careful when you're making transactions.
And just double.
I always double check, triple check.
In this instance, I was just moving too triple check in this instance I was just
moving too fast and I thought I was just checking for eligibility these people cloned that website
that had already been on it was the same exact website that I had checked once for eligibility
but you know instead of saying whatever I oh it said like dot to or something like that and I
connected my wallet to it and I signed the contracts
and I effectively drained my own wallet to them.
It was a good amount of money.
Not really life-changing, but it was good.
It hurt.
And yeah, when it processed,
I was just literally running in a panic,
like in a circle.
It was awful.
So yeah, be very careful with ransomware
and bad contracts contracts bad ad
like bad uh smart contracts all that like just be very careful especially if you're using telegram
or anything like that uh if you're on twitter it's that if you're on x that kind of thing
happens a lot they clone x's they you know oh air i'm constantly getting tagged for airdrops and
yada yada so i just them. This would be more like
spoofing, right? Like, that's more
what we're describing? Yeah. I guess not ransomware
because it's
like malware.
This is not malware. I don't know where this falls.
So ransomware is when
malicious software is on your computer.
Okay, okay.
So then what does this count as, I guess?
Sorry. Spoofing. they're spoofing the
site oh spoofing and phishing okay i didn't see that okay okay i got spoofed i got phished okay
i i want to say ransomware is pretty rare at this point but i mean i'm i so that would have been on
my computer already you're saying and then that would have like drained my wallet yeah so what
was what was that movie that just came out
not too long ago? Beekeeper?
You guys ever seen Beekeeper? Yeah, that was actually pretty good.
Did you guys just say them?
That's what happens at the beginning of Beekeeper.
Oh yeah, you're right. You're totally right.
That's ransomware.
Shout out Beekeeper. That's the first perfect movie for this
topic. That's a good movie, guys, if you haven't seen it.
When I watched that movie, I was like,
fuck yeah.
It's good. It's really good movie, guys, if you haven't seen it. When I watched that movie, I was like, fuck yeah! It's good. It's really good.
Go check it out. I mean, it's just an action
movie, but yeah, definitely fraud
crypto-related, like, right off the bat.
Yeah. Elder
scam. That movie spoke to the
support agent in me, for sure.
Okay, so basically, go see Beekeeper
if you haven't seen it. Yeah. If you need
an education on what will happen to you if you're a scammer, go see Beekeeper if you haven't seen it. Yeah. If you need an education on what will happen to you if you're a scammer, go see Beekeeper.
Jason Statham will get you.
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's a big one.
Spoofing is rough.
And so this is something where anytime that you're interacting with DeFi or any exchange, you have to check that URL.
I've been open about how I'm a heavy DeFi user.
I have it saved and I still check it every time,
even though I'm clicking on a bookmark
where it should be the same.
It's like, nope, got to double check that
just because you don't want to accidentally
send some large sum of money somewhere.
Even before this and more so now after
this i was always nervous and double checking triple checking to hit before i go you know
confirm or before i sign or whatever it might be just because i was always like paranoid and then
eventually you get comfortable and that's when it's dangerous like that's when you're just like
you go through the motions because you're not even looking anymore you're like almost going
through muscle memory of just click sign and click sign and you trust what you're like almost going through muscle memory of just click signs, click sign, and you trust what you're working with.
Like, be very careful.
Yeah.
And one of the ones I don't see as much anymore that's not really in this list,
but it's like the impersonation, then Instagram, things like that.
We used to see a lot of the compromised, like Facebook accounts
or just accounts with like slight variations, just impersonating people.
We've loosely talked about it, but this this was very common say like two years ago i would get you know two or three a month of
people like hey i was told to invest in this because of my instagram friend or like you know
i sent some money over to my my brother and then my brother said that he didn't say that.
Like, what happened?
That's all the Instagram stuff.
Now, that's the less crypto and it's more the social engineering part of it.
But just be aware.
I mean, that's something that can happen.
So vet who you're talking to.
If someone messages you randomly and says they need $200 and it seems out of place, you know, get them on the phone or something.
It's pretty easy to verify that one. Yeah, AI is also making it a little scarier with like deep fakes i was
just gonna ask that like for you guys have we seen any ai video scams you know like like we have your
son kidnapped here's a video of your son he's tied up and then the son is begging for his life but
it's all you know completely ai's voice the way looks, the way he's speaking to the camera.
No, I haven't seen any hostage-style situations or anything like that, or actually any AI abuse for scans.
I'm sure it exists, but no, I haven't seen any of it.
Yeah, I haven't seen it. I hope you don't start to see it.
But I've just read articles that people are getting voice calls from a loved one, and the loved ones like telling them, right. Like it might, whatever it might be.
That one's scary because like, yeah, that's AI is only going to get better.
Yep. Okay. Um, so we're kind of approaching five, uh, my time.
I'm Eastern, not over in San Diego with these guys. I wish I was very nice there.
Um, but is there anything else as far as scams? time. I'm Eastern. I'm not over in San Diego with these guys. I wish I was. It's very nice there.
But is there anything else as far as scams? I know Elizabeth is a speaker. Do you have anything that you want to chime in on or anyone else? Gosh, yeah. I mean, I've also been victim to a
scam myself. And so just do your own research and stay safe out there, you guys. So yeah,
thanks for covering this topic.
I think it's really important for Edge users to know.
So I'll kind of leave the floor a little bit.
Yeah, exactly.
Always.
Open the floor to anyone.
We'll do, you know, if you have any questions about scams, if you have your story, if you want to ask anything about Edge, or if you would like to shill, now's the time.
We'll leave the last eight minutes for anyone to chime in.
And when I say shill, it's any projects you're interested in.
If you're building anything, let us know.
If you want Edge to add something, let us know.
You know, don't go off the rails too much,
but feel free to pitch whatever you'd like.
All right.
I like to show Cash Patel going, guys.
I'm totally kidding.
I'm sending him half the supply.
I think I just approved Basur to speak.
Basur, feel free to chime in.
What's up, man?
What's up, everyone?
Hey.
I think it's just an observation or a complaint
about
each application
You're referring to
the ambassador program?
No, no, no
I opened the app
so the app
you saw me
I don't know why and so if i'm trying to enter
a wallet it freezes so i don't know if it is only in my own device
oh okay um it's freezing when you log in have you already submitted i mean I mean, this is going to be my default answer, of course. Have you already submitted a support ticket?
Sorry, please. I don't get you.
Did you already submit a support ticket about it?
No, no, no.
Please do so. Anytime that there's freezing or crashing or anything like that, if you can reach out to us, we'll happily look into it.
freezing or crashing, anything like that.
If you can reach out to us, we'll happily look into it.
You know, I don't really want to do live support on spaces,
but essentially we would want to collect, you know, the device you're on, things like that.
I sent out an email to support.eds.app and it's, you know, given as much information as possible,
maybe even a video or screenshot that would really help speed up things.
So like Michael or Alberto or the support team can troubleshoot and quickly resolve the issue you're seeing. as possible maybe even a video or screenshot that would really help speed up things so like michael
or alberto or the support team can troubleshoot and quickly resolve the issue you're seeing but
it sounds like it might be freezing so maybe there could be some issues with your device or maybe it's
out of storage but again more information then we can try to uh um be able to resolve that it might
even be outdated check if it's the latest version of edge. Right. And I don't want to, I also don't want you to dox yourself.
Okay.
Okay.
So yeah, we'll need more information.
So if when you get a chance, send out an email to support at edge.app.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just put support.edge.app in the comments on the post here.
So if you don't have that link, just go there.
Use the chat bot.
You can email us directly, support at that app.
Give us a call, whatever you want to do.
I have, I think, one more speaker I just approved.
Codex.
Hey, what's up, buddy?
Okay.
Sorry, please.
I have a question or a suggestion.
I don't know.
Is there any possible way to create a desktop extension for the Azure wallet?
You're saying like a web client?
Like Wallet Connect, I think you're thinking about?
Yes, yes.
Wallet Connect exists.
So if you're wanting to use like a DeFi protocol like Aave,
you can currently connect uh using wallet connect if you're looking for like a chrome extension or
something like that it's been talked about i can't promise anything right now but um yeah we're not
doing extensions quite yet but if you want to just simply connect to something like a uniswap or um
ave or something like that it has to be evm also we don't
have a like wallet connect for like solana yet or anything like that it's only if so if you go
to a lot of them it'll be in under other now and you can just tap wallet connect in the menu on the
right side and connect to it cool key Yeah, of course. All right, Codex, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Gem, Gem, everybody.
Gem, Gem, Edgewallet.
Gem, Gem, I'll be and Mike.
That was good.
I've been listening for a while and I was enjoying this piece.
So I just wanted to just, you know,
tip in quickly before the piece ends.
So the future of selling and buying crypto from Edge Wallet,
it's not open to Nigerians yet.
So I'd like to know if there's any plans for that,
because it would really be helpful to reduce all these E2P scams and all that.
That's a really good point. I know we have a lot of just users in Nigeria and and and expanding
support to Nigeria would be actually beneficial I'm curious what ways do you buy and sell right
now in Nigeria well look in Nigeria we buy and sell people a lot. A whole lot.
And it will actually be nice.
There's this future of, you know,
to just, you know, sell it off directly to a bank account.
It's not necessarily your own bank account.
I mean, to make everything so decentralized, you understand?
So, let's say, for example,
now I walk into a supermarket or a store,
and then I get my goods and it's time to pay and i just use edge wallet to pay directly like my crypto to my
fiat oh i see that's i see that's amazing that that would be a whole other thing that that'd be
awesome also as well but i'm i'm i'm thinking just by being able to buy and sell in nigeria
would be amazing to have so i had to double check. We do have buy available, so you should be able to buy.
Sell is tricky. I'm going to put this out there for anyone that may not have sell support in their country or wherever they live.
Sell is much more difficult than buying. It's harder to find the rails for that.
I do have one suggestion though.
Like if you use, if you tap on spend crypto,
you could spend your crypto and convert it to gift cards.
Right?
So that's one way of kind of selling.
You're selling crypto, putting it to gift cards.
You might be there.
Right. Yeah.
If you go to the home screen,
we do have BitRefill integrated
and it's a really good resource
for being able to buy
like Amazon gift cards
or whatever you may use.
It's worth checking out at least.
Okay.
So, well,
actually I was talking about,
you know,
that this buying and selling of crypto,
you know,
it's a great way for, you know, mass adoption, you know that um this buying and selling of you you know it's a it's a great
way for you know you know mass adoption you know especially using you know so if you're saying that
you can actually you know convert it to give start and then sell it well it's not everybody that
knows how to do that you understand like a an average crypto user you understand or a busy crypto user that's
he just wants to you know buy crypto sell it off and stuff like that but it's going to be hard for
them in the time but a simple a simple buy and sell you know just like for example now
this
um i think they do it
Sorry, you're kind of like cutting off a little bit before I hear you.
I couldn't get the last part.
So I said that
Yeah, I'm sorry.
There's a codex. There's a lot of background echo.
I can't hear or understand.
I'm sorry.
So maybe you want to fix your microphone and try again.
I think it's a connection, baby.
It's still kind of the same.
There's like a background echo.
I can hear your voice like a second, third time.
Like it's trailing.
It's like, hello echo i can hear your voice like a second third time like it's trailing it's like hello hello hello like yeah a little echo
but i mean very tight tight reverberation going on yeah but i mean like for now i mean i'll try
to answer best i can or what i thought you were asking but um for now yeah edge does support buying crypto for buying um with paybis but
selling yeah unfortunately that's not supported yet but there is a way to spend crypto as i was
saying you can spend it and get gift cards like amazon gift cards as michael was saying and then
also another alternative um say you have bitcoin and maybe you just want to swap it to a stable coin you could swap you know your bitcoin into usdc or some other stable coin and then you know
depending on what's out there maybe find another alternative to convert that stable
coin into your bank account but yeah this is something we're you know hopefully
something that will get added sometime in the future.
something that will get added sometime in the future
Yeah, and I will say if you know,
buy should be available for you.
But if you know of any companies that are active
that can offer sell, please let us know.
We've actually had many users reach out to us
and give us that advice.
So please let us know.
We're happy to reach out and be
proactive and contact any Nigerian company that'll let us off ramp. I mean, awesome.
It's a win for everyone in that regard. Yeah, that's what I was wondering or asking,
how do you currently buy or sell? Are there any companies that you guys go through,
like not Moonpay per se, but like companies like Moonpay,
let us know, yeah, that would be helpful. Yeah.
All right, anyone else wanna speak?
Go ahead.
Okay, so just to keep in something, okay,
the by future, I don't think the by future is available.
That was, I wanna say, it's is not available to Nigerians yeah you're not seeing buy available it's it's there but you know to buy
future M to buy to be Naira it's not available, it's not available. Yeah, it's not available.
Oh, I see. Okay.
Exactly.
You're going to have to switch to USD then?
Yeah.
It's available in the region, but you're going to have
to switch it to USD in order to interact.
Yeah, it's not available in your
native currency. So can you try that?
So Codex, if you're in the buy scene
and your country set to Nigeria,
set the currency to US dollars instead.
No, I was able to.
Yeah, yeah.
I think there's a little amount.
What region are you in?
Or sorry, what version are you on, Codex?
The version. Yeah, so if you tap help, what does the you on Codex? The version.
Yeah, so if you tap help,
what does the version say at the bottom?
Okay, so I...
Here, I do doing support on here,
even though I said I wasn't going to, damn it.
Let me check.
Well, I guess ultimately what I'm gonna say is, make sure you're on 4.4. Well, I guess ultimately what I'm going to say is, you know, make sure you're on 442 and then try again.
Because I'm able to use the Nigerian currency and I'm able to proceed through the entire buy flow.
Okay.
Yeah, me too.
There's just a minimum amount.
Like it says 12,083 is the minimum.
So try entering an amount above that amount.
Okay.
So, okay.
It's, it's this issue.
Yeah.
After this.
So I just updated it some days back.
So I thought that that was the latest version.
Okay.
Yeah.
Give that a try.
Yep.
All right. All right. Okay. Yeah. Give that a try. All right.
All right.
Any other questions, concerns?
We're five over.
I think we're pretty good unless there's any last-minute questions or shout-outs.
All right. Cool.
We have, let's see, we have Anarchapoco, we touched on that.
There is an in-office meetup happening next Thursday, right?
Thursday or Tuesday?
I'm actually not aware.
I think if you're talking about the DevX meetup, I think that's this Saturday.
I thought there was a meetup.
Let me walk over to the calendar.
The Mineratopia is next month.
No, it's not on here.
So I'm off.
Also, any brand ambassadors, check for upcoming updates pretty soon.
We'll be getting back to you very soon.
Yeah. No meetups this weekend, actually.
The DevX meetup was last weekend, so my apologies.
Okay. I'm seeing something for February 3rd,
but maybe it's not on there yet.
Not on my radar, so whatever it is, feel free to share.
Notes about me being in office and able to help. So we'll leave it at that for now.
Awesome. Excited to have you in office.
So, all right, cool. Well, I appreciate everyone that showed up. You know, it means a lot to us to hear from you guys.
So, you know, next time in two weeks, we do this every two weeks.
Please come chat with us.
If you have questions or anything that you want
to discuss with us,
even if it's off topic,
I don't care.
I invite the chaos.
So thanks for joining us, guys.
Hopefully we'll see you around
a couple of weeks from now.
So yeah.
Yeah. Thank you, guys.
Peace.
Cool. Catch you.
Bye.
Bye, guys.
See you.
Bye. Bye, guys. See you. Bye.
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