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Final Bosu Update, Otherside, AI and more| Grateful Show #437
Recorded: Feb. 10, 2026 Duration: 1:49:12Space Recording
Short Summary
Final Boss is set to launch a new manga, drawing inspiration from major franchises, while actively engaging its community through partnerships and innovative initiatives. The project is leveraging AI tools for content creation and exploring potential token launches to enhance user engagement and rewards.
Full Transcription
La Biblia carretera a ver la verdad la verdad
para herar
en la casa
que te ponga romper la carretera
para verlo
muévelo muévelo
y falta de respeto mami
como te atrevi a venir sin
party hoy saliste
puesta pa' mí.
Yo que pensaba que venía a dormir.
No vino a rodillas, puesta una semilla.
Ves tú pa' la Lollipop, solita hacia la rodilla.
¿Cómo te atreves, mami?
A venir sin panty.
Mira, dime lo DJ, ¿y?
¿Qué tú te crees?
Jodido cabrón. Yo hago lo que me da la gana y se
lo pone hoy hoy se gasta hoy se fuma como un rasta si Dios lo permite
si Dios lo permite
mire el G orientando a las generaciones nuevas por la verdadera
bella que voy a ahogar la tizzy pa que hoy se estén mojando los panties
vétele bella por lo versatil más putas que fetis
la que se puso bella que mami fuiste tu I'm going to go. Yo, still going on those Super Bowl vibes, guys.
What a great Tuesday.
I hope you're having a great day.
Please hit that retweet button, retweet the space,
so more people can vibe with us, more people can join us today.
And I pin up the badge for today.
I will share the code soon, guys.
If you don't know what it is, I will explain.
You go to op.xyz forward slash claim.
And there you can put your code that I will share soon.
And you claim incredible art, incredible badge by Jubrail.
He's here in the audience.
Guys, retweet the space.
If you can also bookmark it, that also boosts the algorithm.
And we're going to have incredible episodes today today I'm so so so excited and if you want to guess the code it has
something to do with Winter Olympics so you you can start guessing but two more
minutes to go let's go baby Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This my dick. Do the way homey.
Yeah.
B-dub.
I'ma let this shit, babe, I don't buy it.
I'ma take it to the top.
Yo, I'ma make it hot, baby, baby.
I'ma press the pussy, the stick, and I pop it.
Yeah.
I'ma squeeze my pistol, I'm showin' what I got.
I pee the pipe with Big Tempest.
And from 5'5, I'ma fit this in a ride a little bit, but I pop nines.
Tell niggas get their money right, cause I got mine.
I'ma ram, quit playin' niggas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a little bit but I pop the money right cuz I got my quick plan niggas
can't shine That's one of my bad old gangsters. You can find a nigga sitting on throne. Hit the clutch, hit the gear, hit the gas, and I'm gone.
Hit it.
My man, do what, homie?
B-Dog.
I'ma let this hit.
I ain't got no power.
I'ma take you to the top.
Yo, I'ma make it hot.
Baby, baby.
I'm down for the action.
Start with his mouth to smack.
You hold your strap.
Mic up back, so crap.
React like a gangster, a dial like a gangster flag.
Would you be hitting? I'ma start a B-A-C-1.
No, no, look who put in with the phone.
Oh, 20 and 10, 6, don't go, bro.
Keep side, side, you get no, no, I'm no, bro.
But I'ma say something really wrong with my brain.
Don't bother me, they know I'm down and down with my chain.
Cheek, Nick.
We get it popping in the hood, Cheek, Nick. Motherfucker was good, and I'm waiting for niggas to act-NICK We get it poppin' in the hood G-NICK
Motherfucka was good
And I'm waiting for niggas to act
Like they don't know how to act
I have to sip it too much
Let's go guys
I see so many legends here
In the audience
Let's fucking go
Please hit that lower corner
Purple button
And retweet the space
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It helps with everything
And it's for free,
guys. I will also bring Rita here. Whoever want to join us here on stage, guys, a request,
I'll bring you up here. And let's fucking go. This is Grateful Show 437. Let's go.
Yo, GMGM, guys, what a wild day in Web3 and in AI space as always. We're gonna be talking about it a little bit during the intro, but I see Rida here, I don't know how much time he has, so let's quickly say hi to Rida the legend. Rida, how you doing, man? What's good, bro?
What's up, my man? How are you, Mr. Grateful?
I'm doing good. what about you bro? Bro Tino has a new baby man, I talked to him like two hours ago, he said he sleeps like
you know two hours a day, he's dead basically so yeah, I was like man you can you can give me
your second child you know I take care of him and he was too scared. Yeah, no, I saw your name on the Epstein file,
so we're not giving you any children.
Oh, shit, bro.
What the fuck?
Oh, shit.
Yeah, but maybe I was a victim probably,
but, you know, probably too young to be there.
That's what they all say, grateful.
I saw your name.
I saw grateful.
I saw you and the PSP as well.
Oh, my God. How are you doing, bro? What's going on? All, Grateful. I saw your name, I saw Grateful. I saw you and the PFP as well. Oh my god.
How you doing, bro?
What's going on?
All good, my man.
All good.
What's happening here?
What's Final Bosu Alpha?
Oh, we're going to learn that, man.
We're going to learn that.
Oh, man.
They might be a giveaway also, man.
I totally forgot about it.
So we'll see.
Maybe we're going to have a giveaway.
Rita is giving away his PF pfp so guys read
me the space and i'll probably not right maybe just just the head maybe just the gator
that stays on now but rita anything from you anything that you've been working on
that you would like to share sorry i'm mba'd. Holy shit, bro.
What does it even mean?
Like NDA?
What do you mean?
What does it mean, bro?
I know, but I don't believe it.
I don't believe it, man.
Rename it. Rename it to something else and share the alpha.
I can't.
Look at Kev here, bro. He was like, man, I have NDA.
I can't share anything. I forced him to share all the alpha here today.
Okay, let me see. Let me see what Kev shares as alpha. Maybe I can share some with Kev as well.
But anything, just a little hint, bro. Anything you can share here. We have abes here in the audience. They want to it bro anything just just something the only alpha i
have the figure already said the mml and the vibe coding with mml that's that's the also
that's the only that's the newest thing and so many so many avatars coming to other side
i know you hear rita uh because of course one of my questions is like when final boss
who avatars in the other side right so we'll see we'll see what do you think
Rita no you can I tell them very fucking soon grateful what the fuck do you think
I'm gonna get we're gonna get all those avatars and we're not gonna get final boss on here?
Let's fucking go. I knew that, bro. I knew that. Let's go, man.
And I love to see Other Side bringing so many amazing avatars from different chains, right?
That's a beauty, man. I love to see that. I love to see that. It's really great.
And yeah, you are doing crazy crazy work there
guys I see more and more people joining
so check the pinned tweet
there is a badge I will share the code
very very soon but if you want to try
and get a badge
let me quickly refresh if anyone actually got it
damn come on guys
like you can do better
the code is related to
Olympic games so you can guess maybe it's the
name of the country I don't know who knows so check it out let me quickly also say hi to Hype
my aquamarine brother Hype how you doing man what's going on? Yo what's up is the code Canada?
No it's not probably fucking Canada because it's too cold. yo i'm excited to be here honestly just want to listen on today's
space with fun of basu because first time i heard you know kev was in mr boss's space so uh it would
get to hear you know what's been going on and tapping it with you know final boss and i'm
excited man i mean really just i spilled a little bit of alfie squeeze out of him like
you know final boss who avatars, let's fucking go, man.
Especially on the other side with the representation of all these different communities.
Looking forward to hearing what's going on, though.
But, yeah, no, man, just here to support you as always.
Aquaman on top.
And, yeah, man, just here for some vibes,
and we'll give you some updates on what's going on with other games in a bit here.
I need to jump off very quickly, but just because we said something that's important
for a change, I want to shout out all the different community members from the Ape
ecosystem who have been connecting us and Septim with all the different communities
like Final Bus, who I didn't know them, Ape Whale down there in the building, he's the
one that made the intro. Ape Whale especially has been introducing us and the other side
to so many different chains and different collections from different chains.
So I want to shout him out and shout out everyone else
that's connecting everyone together.
Because I can't, I mean, personally, I can't do it on my own.
Hype is another one.
There's a bunch.
Bronje's.
Bronje's actually makes models as well and connects to different communities.
So yeah, shout out to all the community members
bringing everybody together.
We just do the little part.
We do the part that we make the avatars,
but the community is the people
that are bringing all the different chains
and different communities.
Love it. Ape Whale is such a legend, man.
He was one of the first people I met during Ape Fest in Vegas, of course,
because Aqua is always early, Aqua always winning, so that was amazing.
But let me quickly shout out a few people.
You mentioned Brongis, big shout to Brongis.
I see Baron here, Laura.
Law of the Saw, the legend, Kulch, Spectre, Web3, Getsby, Jubrel, JCS, Snack, NBA Memo, Zombie Rob, El Lampo,
Otis, GMA.
New Apes here.
I love it.
Marathon Crypto, the best basketball player in Web3.
And so on and so on, guys.
I cannot read all your names.
I also see Final Boss, Susp, FPs.
Beautiful, beautiful people here in the audience absolutely
love it and yeah i have to repeat it again jcs snacks his salty his salty nuts saved me drink
ape fest because i was so hungry and uh he's selling the best made by apes salty nuts in the
club so absolutely love that hype we have like three more minutes of the intro quick question
about the other games during the
Saturday. It was incredible.
I had a blast. Anything that you would love to share about
Later, Rita. I actually wasn't there
to be honest. Grateful.
I was actually traveling to the Super Bowl, so
I was not actually there this Saturday.
If you didn't notice, the boys
handled it. But I saw a bit of the games. It looked
fun.
The only clip I got to see was Otis falling off that first game for Red Light, Green Light off the side of the cube.
I heard you guys broke the record for the slot.
What is it called?
The gems?
I did.
I did.
Yeah, yeah.
I single-handedly, you know, let the group and we won it.
Wait, I thought you just got like three gems, bro,
out of the 300 that was available
No, no, no, I did 297
Oh, sorry, it was 297
minus the three that everybody else got
the 100 and plus, okay, I get it
No, but it was great, I know that there was a good turnout
obviously
shout out to everybody that showed up
we obviously got games this weekend
got another big activation this weekend
we also have today, day two of the Project Runway with five other communities being showcased.
And then tomorrow through Friday, we have the fashion showcase.
So we got a bunch of people that are participating, submitting their different wearables and designs.
We have that the next three days.
Of course, this weekend, we celebrate
World of Women on Valentine's Day
on the 14th. Today, 3 o'clock
Eastern. Make sure you guys
have time to come through. Other side,
we're going to be in the Nexus, showcasing
those five amazing communities. Then this Saturday,
of course, 3 p.m. Eastern, we've got the World of Women
community as well. Going to be joining us
for another other games. I you grateful that's incredible guys you're making other sites so great
because these organized events uh the whole production is amazing guys if you haven't joined
any other games yet you have to do it guys check hype check other games account check what's going
on you don't need to buy any nfts you can just join if you have any ape chain guys check hype check other games account check what's going on you don't
need to buy any nfts you can just join if you have any ape chain nfts or there are many so many
avatars you can pick them because they are beautiful and go there enjoy it hang out with
other people it's um it's very positive place compared to x right like uh x is weird these
days but other side is great and positive place where you can hang out with people, have fun and enjoy it.
So 100% do that. And yeah, Hype, if you, I don't know how much time you have, we go through Final Boss and everything what they've been cooking and definitely would love to talk more about OtherSide in the second half of the show.
But let's see. Let's see.
100%. Oh, by the way, real quick, yo, I'll tell you this later when we talk um i took i took
lost to the course air store you guys if you know what course areas they do all the accessories
for like you know gaming rigs and whatnot grateful there's some really cool new tech they have out
there which i don't know if it's new but um i know you do a lot of stuff like you know streaming
and not podcasting but they have this new uh teleprompter that you can look directly at but
it actually has your face on the screen so they have some new teleprompter that you can look directly at, but it actually
has your face on the screen.
So they have some really cool tech.
And one of the coolest things there was I actually, I walked up to one of the salesmen.
I'm like, cause they have all these screens.
I'm like, have you ever heard of other sites?
And one guy goes, yeah, actually I have.
I'm like, you know, board ape.
He's like, yep.
And the other guy who's the manager looks at him like the fuck you talking about?
So I was like, I had to show him on the screen.
I actually try to make them put on TV, but they wouldn't they wouldn't do it but anyways uh we'll talk about that later that's wild i love to
hear that man also i see alpha dj in here um another incredible ape and legend the ceo of uh
ape games so yeah other and so many other legends here in the audience, guys. Big shout to you.
Also, please retweet the space and I will quickly share the code. The code for the badge is
Italy. Yes, the name of the country where Olympic games are actually hosted. So Italy,
it's a beautiful country with amazing food. I know actually Baron lived there for a while so he knows what I'm talking about.
Go claim that
badge. If it doesn't work,
let me know here in the comments
because I had a few DMs that there's some
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forward slash claim.
Italy. Yeah, that's the code.
I don't know if Honeybee is around.
If he joins, he will spell it for you.
I will do quickly spelling maybe
for you too. I as a iPhone, T as a T-Rex, A as a analytics, L as a love, Y as a Y ymca italy okay get that badge and let's welcome bossu kev here on stage kev how
you doing today man what's going on hey what's going on it's been a while nice to hear your
voice always grateful excited to be here and catch up with all the apes and if my connection
breaks off at times just let me know and i shut off my wi-fi but that should be good it's good i i hear you well bro how is it going man how you doing
are you in uh you you base in uh grand canary canary island yes sir grand canary the canary
islands yeah things are good man uh rainy season is over officially so lots of sun every day
this morning at uh 7 30 i ran into the water to catch some waves, back into surfing.
So yeah, things are good, man. The kids are healthy, family is good.
Just focused here in my office on building the franchise. Life's good, how are you, man?
Doing great, doing great. The weather sucks here in Central Europe, but we got used to it over, you know, centuries.
in Central Europe, but we got used to it over, you know, centuries.
But yeah, I wish I would in a nicer place, maybe Miami or, you know,
Gran Canaria Islands. They are incredible. I love it there.
I've been there many times. Oh my God, I love Spain. It's so good there.
Italy is also great, so can't complain.
Man, really excited. I checked my guest and show database and we hosted you more than
a year ago for the first time in January 2025 and then I think April. So it's been a few
months, maybe over a half year. So definitely interested in what has happened since then,
bro. What has happened since April? How is it going? Yeah, definitely it's been an interesting journey, but a lot of fun.
Our team is starting to shape up really nicely and we're starting to operate as a real company.
And so, yeah, it's really fun, man. Just feel so excited, so grateful.
The two brothers are full-time script writing, and so they're working on the universe and getting that all together.
A lot of time goes into that.
So I'm really excited about that.
We kind of teased it already that our first focus will be to produce a manga
rather than go straight into the anime production.
This Thursday, for those that, especially for the holders,
we're going to talk about it on our Basu Sync Up and give you guys a little bit of a high-level view
of how we're thinking about approaching this.
And so that's really exciting.
And yeah, like these last, I would say, seven, eight months,
we've been just focused really on our internal community,
you know, making sure that they stay updated.
Every two weeks, there is a sync up.
We've been dropping a bunch of different smaller things.
Obviously, we kicked off with the chimpers, with some physical products.
That was actually our first licensing deal.
Last December, we dropped a free hoodie to the whole community.
And yeah, we're really starting to branch out as an IP.
Not sure if you've checked it out, but if you haven't, check our Instagram.
Started producing actual talking to the camera videos.
In the beginning it was a little bit awkward, but I have to get through it.
And it starts popping off, like we have two videos that got close to a million views
and um yeah some some short animations as well that we've been testing with that that really
started to pop up but the the most beautiful thing is really the dms that we're getting
i was just checking we got over 3 000 dms in the last month and a half or so of people telling us
what they like about final bossu so yeah just when when you
follow us you you get a message straight away asking why you hit follow and the messages are
amazing like and and just to know like these people have no idea about blockchain they don't
know about nfts right and so they purely come for the ip and the messages we're getting around i love
the final bosses and i love that you have to face your inner fears and the against the IP and the messages we're getting around. I love the final bosses and I love that
you have to face your inner fears and the against the odds and the growth path, right? And so
we're really validating that the story is actually hitting people beyond like the world that we all
live in here, right? And so that's been really cool to see. And yeah, we're going to expand a lot
on that, of course, scaling scaling that part up and
growing the brand so yeah it's been good it's been good definitely uh yeah with ups and downs
but i feel that the community right now is in is in a really really good spot everybody's aligned
or excited things are starting to come together and so yeah feeling good man
man these chimpers packs are incredible.
I have not only a few, I would say quite a lot here,
like physical cards, and they are awesome.
I absolutely love collecting those.
So how did co-op actually work for you guys?
What did you learn from that?
And how did community actually see that activation?
The community loved it.
I was so happily surprised about how well it was received.
Chimpers were looking to do something on abstract already pre-launch.
So they reached out and then we started the conversation.
And it was really good to put our heads together and think, okay, how can we deliver both experiences of chimpers and final bosses?
And I remember clearly when we had the first concept, we're like, okay, we need to take this to the next level.
And then my brothers had the idea of what if what if Chimpers just respawn, right?
In our world, when people die, they respawn.
And so like, what if Chimpers die in their world and then they respawn in the Final Buster universe, right?
And yeah, we went off that.
And I think that's really how licensing is done really well.
When two brands come together and then both lean into their strengths where Chimpers obviously had all the products ready and
had done this before with you know also an ape chain and you know a bunch of other brands and so
yeah that was really good and I personally like Chimpers is such an amazing team like I resonate
so much with them I always felt like they're so undervalued. Nowadays, they're finally getting the flowers that they've deserved.
Like a small team, hustling, always grinding.
Maybe not the most popular, but now they are.
I just love to see that.
That was a great first collab.
I'm looking forward to partnering with so many more brands.
Not only Web3, but
especially Web2 as well.
Getting more physicals out there.
Chimpers are incredible.
They are also killing it on social media.
I think I was on one of their
first IRL activation in London.
It was great to meet the team there.
It's also
great to see them dropping those cards on A's also great to see them, you know,
dropping those cards on Ape Chain, Abstract, ETH back in the day,
having all those different games and physicals.
It's a really great team and great people.
So I love this collab for sure.
And I mentioned Instagram because they have been killing it on Instagram.
I don't know how many followers they have, maybe a million.
They have millions of views there.
Are there any learnings from
instagram for you how to actually approach it what to expect out of it and how can you utilize it for
final bossu because chimpers as as far as i know then they don't communicate about blockchain or
nfts right they are they're sharing animations and like positivity and it's great but they don't
share web3 related content so do you see it the same way that you don't want to communicate
blockchain there you just want to share your story and how do you want to convert if you want
if you want to convert those viewers and followers into i don't know if collectors, yeah, that's the word, collectors. Yeah, 100%.
Well, when I started up Instagram, I was thinking, like, I was kind of exploring all angles
because the brand that we have is obviously a bit more complicated since, like, the Japanese
style, the animation, it just takes so much time.
It's so expensive.
And so compared to, like, Chper's or Pudgy or Fox
and some of the other brands that have these very similar,
they find the trends, they use the simple characters,
it's very easy to produce, and it's low cost as well.
So we couldn't go that route.
For a while I was even thinking,
shall we create chibi versions of our characters
and go that route?
But I used to run a marketing agency for quite a long time.
And I've done a lot of advertising on Instagram and Facebook.
There are some brands that literally have 2 million followers, 5 million followers,
and don't produce any revenue.
And there are other brands that have 2,000 followers and produce millions right and this is very interesting like why what is that
right obviously there's a big big thing with target audience but there's also a very big thing of the
emotional connection that it's creating right and so i think there's not one way of doing things um
but when you always trace uh chase trends it's very like um a bit like the giphy
right so it's like very um like spray and pray it's very like almost top of the funnel but there's
no depth that you're going with and so i kind of thought to myself like okay what do i really want
well i want people to follow us because they fall in love with the story. I need them to think like, man, I love final bosses.
I love like the growth paths.
Like I connect with it, right?
When I watch it, this is something that I really want to do.
And so when I thought of that, I thought, okay, there's, what is the, like the strength that I have up until like the actual story comes out?
Because if you think of anime brands, it's usually like a manga or an anime that comes out, then they blow up, and then they produce content.
But we're in this weird phase of being before that.
And so I thought, you know what, what was the thing that helped me a lot in Web3?
Well, it was the 3 Brothers story against the odd story and the IP, right?
So I'm just going to do the same thing, but now on a bigger scale through content.
And it's working out really well for us. I'm telling you, the DMs and we have one person that's literally full time connecting with
those people.
So if we get a response on Instagram, we're having conversations with these people like
back and forward, like talking about life, talking about anime and just going really
deep with those couple thousand people.
And there's a lot of people that literally say like, please launch a Kickstarter, I'm going to support this.
Can we buy products?
Like we're literally getting
those type of messages already, right?
So I think that we took a little bit of a different route,
but this next phase is also going to be a lot about animation
because there are some interesting learning lessons thereof.
For example, my video that did 900,000 views got us almost 2,000 followers.
But the laundry day that got only, and that is like an animation where you see the final boss walking through the city, got 200,000 views and got us close to 3,000 followers.
So there's a lot more, the follower ratio is much higher on that one.
And so that shows that art speaks for itself, right?
So we need to do more of
that so we have like lots of different short animations in productions with you know community
members ip etc so that's kind of also the next phase and um one thing i think a lot about in
terms of like blockchain and nfts is how can i repackage this ID and sell it in a different way?
And so rather than say, hey, this is a NFT,
we could say this is a digital collectible,
but I'm trying to take it one step further,
and that is for the first time ever,
you can now own an anime character within a universe, right?
And there was very soon, like it's already ready,
we're just going gonna time it and launch
it at the right time it's a landing page where the nfc gets pitched without saying the nft but it's
like hey you can now own a character and you know these are the things that you can do with it you
can have it as an online identity we also get licensing rights and you can build with it and
so i don't know what's going to happen like if we send all those people and that traffic to that
right the the bottom of the funnel there is like how do you purchase this well you create an account on abstract you fund it
with you know your your credit card or with apple pay and then you can purchase it here on the side
and the price is fluctuating based on the community so trying to repackage it a little bit and see
how that's going to hit with like a web 2 audience right and maybe there's a
way for us to sell digital collectibles in that way hype go ahead man yeah i was gonna say real
quickly you know obviously kev's doing a lot of good things one thing that you know i think is
really important i think you're doing this and i thought a lot of others should take note of is
don't don't be scared of you know using your
same ip and diversifying to other audiences because again when we look at the space with
nfts right there's a direct correlation between that and financial like a lot of times we think
of like nfts financial with with this opportunity with like things like social media like instagram
you can take that opportunity almost not as a reset or restart but just a new audience direction
where you can take that same ip and and change it or restart, but just a new audience direction where you can take that same IP
and change it up a bit, right?
Change it up, make it look like it's, you know,
still part of the same IP, but target a different audience, right?
Grow the audience in different ways.
And I think that's really important as well as the fact that, you know,
Kev, I'm sure you guys are doing this, but in terms of like consistency,
like just consistently testing the IPO with different types of, you know, media really can have you hone in and focus on what exactly is that target.
Because a lot of times it's what it comes down to is experimenting, right?
Experimenting three or four different types of clips or different types of lore in your story, just whatever it takes.
Because as you said, like there's sometimes you're going to get 3,000 followers x amount of views or 2 000 followers and three times i've out of views but it's it comes
down to like what is the core of this right is consistency so but definitely you're doing it
yeah and you're learning a lot from that uh from consistency as well indeed like we we put out
about 20 videos before the first one um like I really had to test different types and everything that I thought would work didn't work.
And then eventually the video that took me 10 minutes to make really fast,
just from the heart, blew up.
And I was like, oh, okay, this works.
But yeah, 100%, man.
Especially for us as an IP brand.
Ultimately, I want people to fall in love with the characters,
with the storyline for what that is, right? And then the collectibles are, yeah, the same as how a Pokemon card is to Pokemon, but these are, like, digital. And I've always thought, like, I'm imagining this in a couple years from now. We have, like, all these fans. Let's say we have 100,000 fans.
Let's say we have 100,000 fans and 5,000 of them have seen this Kaiju-Con,
what is an ID within a faction within our collectibles.
And they're like, man, I'm a fan of this specific character.
And they don't even know that eventually there's a guy on X that is that character
and he's wrapping that as a collectible.
But they fall in love with that character
within the show because of the story.
And then we can, maybe there's a whole fan
club around that person at some point.
And they're creating their own fan pages.
And then we can essentially connect them. It's like, no, but this is
the real guy behind it.
I can see that future happening.
Yeah, I think the
approach through the reels and
videos is incredible if you are able to
produce those, right?
Because I believe it still has to be quite challenging to produce on such a scale because
reels, it's not about one reel a week, right?
Like you need to do at least like three times a week at least.
I don't know how many you actually share, but it's not easy.
But if you can do it, I think it's great because you can attract audience outside of Web3,
audience that doesn't want to make money with you, audience that is interested in what you're doing
because they see the video, right?
I kind of would love to see that with BAYC2 a little bit, right?
Like maybe having a story of Curtis on Instagram, animations there, that would be dope to have that. There's also a lot of room
with other side, I think, on Instagram and TikTok. So yeah, we'll see. But this is really,
really interesting. I see Rustan here and hand up. So let's go with him. And then we're going
Then we're going to get back on track. Rustan, welcome here.
to get back on track. Rustan, welcome here. How are you doing? Do you have any questions for Kev?
How are you doing? Do you have any questions for Kev?
Oh, I don't hear anything.
Guys, can anyone hear? No, I have the same.
No. So maybe try to step down and I will bring you back up.
Twitter is is bugging probably.
So if you can step down, I will bring you again.
And let's see if that works.
So are you back?
Oh, no.
Damn, I don't think so.
I can't hear anything.
I'm sorry.
Maybe kill the app and come back and I'll bring you up here. Yeah, it's... Yeah, okay. Yeah, kill the app and come back and I'll bring you up here.
Yeah, okay.
Kill the app and come back and let's see if it works.
Kev, you said you talk with the fans of manga, right?
What's the most common place where these fans gather?
Is it Instagram, TikTok, YouTube? what's like the most common place where these fans gather is it uh instagram tick tock
youtube or where can you find these these people actually yeah i think they're all over i would say i definitely think instagram is great tick tock uh as well um i definitely i think instagram
and and we're kind of targeting almost um like i've tried to look a lot at what our target audience is, right?
Like are they dire anime fans?
And I think that we're mixing a little bit of even different creators, so other artists, other animators, but as well entrepreneurs.
Personally, I'm also not like, I definitely watch a lot of anime, but if I look at cons where people are cosplaying and stuff, I feel like it's almost like a niche again.
Like they're die-hards.
I'm a little bit on the outside, and I feel like our target audience is just like who I am and who my brothers are.
So yeah, I think they're on all socials.
There's definitely different platforms that they're reading on.
Yeah.
Rustan, let's try it again.
I can hear you.
I switched to my phone, got off the desktop.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
I wanted to follow up on what Hype was saying about using your IP, you know?
Like that goes along not just for like the creators and founders,
but for the actual holders of these collectibles, right?
And I would love to see more people take advantage of the IP ownership
that they have by the NFTs that they collect.
And that's something that I've been
personally demonstrating over the past few years, especially throughout various metaverses.
And I recently, just in the last day, I just dropped my IP of a Clonex. And in real life,
I'm a body painter. I paint on people and then I photograph them. I've been doing that for 21 years.
I'm a body painter. I paint on people and then I photograph them.
I've been doing that for 21 years and I brought that into metaverse platforms by body painting avatars so people can wear my art on avatars.
So I took my clone X NFT, got it verified by other side on the contract.
So it's an actual other side avatar.
I took the IP, I body painted it and I made it a free mint for anybody to collect.
And, and, uh, you know, I want to offer that to you guys.
I pinned it up at the top, but like this, this to me is the stuff that is like extremely
valuable about web three.
And like, I can take these assets and create content like you guys are describing.
And I've been doing it on YouTube a lot using AI, especially to create things, um, you you know that i can't easily create myself so
so like i i took for example i took a bunch of my ip and i with my daughter we changed our voices in
11 labs and we created an among us animation and it was like a fun little family sort of get
together thing that we did together in 24 hours and posted a video with just like this
animated you know thing so like anyways i just wanted to agree with what you're saying but i
would love to see more community holders take advantage of the things that they own and put it
out there i agree i think with tools that we have even if you are not an artist, you can still create a lot.
You know, the Directive Creator and his tool
that you can basically bring any picture into 3D, right?
Hype, go ahead.
Yeah, I just wanted to bring up one thing,
just as we're talking about IP again,
and I know it's a lot of diverting,
kept talking about, obviously, Final Bossy,
but one of the things that came up about 2ECL, which I know this, you know, I don't know if Debra kept talking about, you know, obviously Final Bossy, but one of the things that, you know, came up about 2ECL, which
I think is very important is, if you guys know the history of like, Popmart, right?
Because I spent a lot of time learning about Popmart the last four years.
One of the things they announced in the last like month was they're looking for new IP
and artists.
Now, again, I know that, you know, it's a big, big box brand.
Some people don't go that route, right?
But when you talk about mass adoption and exposure, I think we look at these opportunities, right?
So I think, you know, Kev, if you've, I don't know if you guys have Popmarts where you're at, but, you know, one of the shift is, you know, from the standard traditional IP they've had in the past, which was licenses.
And then eventually they did, obviously, their own in-house design stuff.
You know, they hired designers to create our artists,
to create product lines, right?
And then recently did more collabs,
like the One Piece Laboo stuff.
But you see they're doing even like more of the manga stuff, right?
But what I'm trying to get to is
they're looking for new artists, looking for new IP.
So again, anybody that has good or great IP, always try.
There's no harm in taking that shot, right?
I mean, you have great IP.
I think there's an opportunity to proliferate the brand through a big box environment.
In those situations also, just because I learned, like I said, a lot about that type of production,
they do all their production in-house.
So I know a lot of time there's this fear around like, okay, even if I sign this deal,
do I have to come up with like 50,000 units?
Do I have to come up with it up front?
Is it on consignment?
In this type of situation, it's all in house.
You're basically licensing out the brand to them and they actually do everything.
And you just basically cut out the royalties.
Right.
But it's, it's, for me, it's more about the brand exposure, right?
It's big brand exposure.
So there's that opportunity.
Also, I don't know, Kev, if you've been out to the licensing convention,
but I know there's a few brands that have, including Pudgy,
which went out there last year to do the Care Bear deal, right?
So I think, you know, anybody that, again, to Roostan's point,
and to anybody that's a founder, try to make it to these type of conventions,
these type of, you know, events.
Because I feel like sometimes we talk about, like, let's hit up the NFT events.
That's great.
But what's the ROI?
Beyond just meeting the fan base and your community and other peers, to me, it's more
like take the opportunity and spend the money to go to these type of things because I think
that's going to outweigh the value long term for your holders, even though they might argue,
well, I want to see you this year.
Well, yeah, you might have seen me this year, but instead, I'm going to go here this year
and get more opportunities to build this brand and get you guys more rewards, more incentive and value versus me coming and say high five for 10 minutes and then leaving.
Right.
So anyways, there's just a couple of things there.
David Horvath has incredible sub stack about these all IP events.
I know there's one huge in Germany.
I know Tino actually was there with his brand.
That's 100% interesting. The message, I think, for
2026 is stepping out of Web3 bubble and trying to
get new audiences and get out of our small pond.
Kev, go ahead, man.
I love that hype. If you have any contacts at Popmart, send them my way.
But yeah, I agree.
I went to the licensing expo in London with my brother,
met people from Crunchyroll, got some contacts there from Toei Animation.
And it's just incredibly powerful.
It was also when we went there, that was the day that Final Boss became ultra clear to us of like,
this is where we want to be.
I can't wait to be in these environments and doing deals.
I think we have some way to go in terms of growing our brand.
But yeah, I'm actively reaching out to different licensing agents and getting to that place.
Yeah, I'm so excited about that, man.
This is, especially for me personally,
like I've done, like for my own marketing agency
like for years, done all the sales,
built on a sales team.
And this is the most exciting thing for me personally
about Final Passu.
So that's why also me and the brothers
are such a good team
because they're writing the story, they're writing the script,
they're developing the IP, right?
And my job has always been to scream it from the roof.
One thing I wanted to mention is actually a shout out
to our community as well.
And 100% shout out to the BoardH,
because you guys have been such a great example
as building with your IP.
I think you've probably the number one in the space
who, you know, I've shown the potential of it.
But we're actually getting some holders
that are already building.
There's a comic book in the works.
There's an RPG in the works.
I just pinned here Joyful Streetwear.
It's one of our holders who has his own brand in Italy.
Well, by the way, it's also the keyword to the space
for those that haven't claimed the badge yet.
But he has an art gallery as well, and he has his own brand.
And he's actually creating his own T-shirts
with his Basu character on it.
And this is so exciting, man.
It's crazy to me that this didn't exist even in the past, right?
That brand's opening up to the fans, to the people that participate
and co-create the brand, if you will.
Yeah, super excited about that part.
It 100% is, man.
I have, of course, many more questions, but I saw Rustan's hand before,
and then we welcome Ilan or Ilan.
Rustan, any questions to Kev?
Yeah, I just wanted to add to that,
talking about connecting with IP and agents and things like that.
It's also important to remember that we live in a time,
like the last 5-10 years,
where creators really have taken control
and the big brands come after the creators really have taken control and the big
brands come after the the creators that are like the most successful you know and youtube youtube
is one of the best examples of that of people i mean look at mr beast right like just this
he was a teenager that figured out how to do it and now it's like the biggest creator in the world
and people ask him like are you trying to go work in hollywood and he's like no i don't want to work in hollywood that's beneath him you know and like we have the potential to do that with our ip and there's no
brand that can hold it down as far as like taking a cut like they come after you and that's what i'm
always trying to encourage people to do is to sort of take advantage of what you own and dominate with it.
100%. I think we're really trying that. We're really trying that
here. Thank you so much for sharing that.
One other quick thing. As far as the metaverse is concerned,
other side, Decentraland, HyperFi. HyperFi, I use a lot.
That is literally a studio in your pocket and you can create content with
your assets just by throwing your assets in the world.
And like when other side gives us the opportunity to build in there, that's
going to be a whole other content studio that users can use and apply their IP
and create just the coolest shit that you can imagine, you know?
So it's very exciting.
And I hope that like everybody is aware of that because the potential is unreal.
Man, I share many times that there would be no metaverse without AI. I really believe that
because it will improve the creation so much. But the other thing that we always talk with AI
and agents and everything is distribution, right? And without distribution, you can have the best metaverse ever. But
if you don't have enough people there, it will be a bust. So distribution is tough.
But with these tools, man, and seeing all those avatars that people creating with the
Directive Creator tool, it's awesome. It's awesome. And everyone can do it. So yeah,
I haven't checked actually the HyperFi tool.
I have to do that and test it out.
Ilan, or Ilan, correct me, what's the right pronunciation?
Welcome here.
I see your hand.
Go ahead, please.
Yeah, what's up, dude?
It's Ilan.
and yeah no I wanted to come up here
And, yeah, no, I wanted to come up here and say what's up to Kev.
and say what's up to Kev
definitely
resonate with
what Roustan's saying
I mean I think that this is super clutch as far
as the democratization of
the tools at our fingertips I think the most
important part of
you know joining a
community like this around
you know art and IP
that you vibe with is the network.
I think that that's having like this in situ or in place network of individuals puts these, you know, these projects and these brands sort of in the pole position for co-creation.
for co-creation. And I think like the most important part here and, you know, I'll die on
this hill and I'll scream it from the rooftops is organization. I think the real thing that we're
lacking in this space in particular is, you know, organization. We talk a lot about decentralization.
We talk a lot about you have all these tools at your fingertips. But I think that, you know, when founders and leaders within these organizations
begin to organize and have sort of this plug and play, you know, ability to tap into those
people within the network that have the knowledge that can teach them the tools,
then you have value creation within the network. You have the ability to tap in, you have the
ability to connect with other individuals, other human beings. Those guys can be like a skillshare
situation where they're like, what do you want to do? And you can point them in the right direction.
You can have co-creation and collaboration, you know, hubs within the network that you can plug
into and other individuals that lead those. Like Rostin was saying, he can spin out something in 24 hours, but a lot of people find the
ubiquitousness of these tools and the completely flattened playing field very daunting.
You don't know really where to start.
You don't know really where to plug in.
And again, this is where the power of the network comes in because you have people within the
network that know the tools that can teach you that first step. And really, if you just get that
first step done, you realize what you can create. You realize how to create together. You realize
how to plug and play this IP into something that is much more powerful than,
again, just sitting on the sidelines collecting NFTs, but rather like playing and integrating
your characters, you know, in a world. And again, having people, you know, having another node in
that network be like, okay, you've been able to create, you. Let's plug that into the algo. And I know how to
do that. So if you can create these nodes in the network of co-creation where you allow people to
and holders to sort of bounce from node to node and really get, like really skill up, right? Like
really learn some amazing, you know, skills
that that probably wouldn't otherwise learn. That is the power of the network. And you have that
network effect, that first level network effect of, you know, if you, if you can push out a lot
of content and you have a lot of co-creators, you know, that, that creates that splash. You have,
you know, you have buy-in from holders, you have that,
that co-creation universe beginning to, you know, really become that flywheel. And, you know,
that first level network effect is, is that, you know, once you start pushing that out on,
you know, socials or, you know, whatever your avenue is to, to, you know, your interface with
the rest of the world, people will start going like,
what is this?
Who are these people?
And then they can understand that very simple way to plug into this network and start co-creating
and own, like Kev said, a character in an anime universe and not just be like, you know,
a passive holder, but really be an active collaborator and co-creator of your own
story within that network. I think that that is really the power of, you know, what we're doing
here. And I think that, you know, again, it really boils down to distilling that organizational
capacity where you do realize what you have at your fingertips and you have people that know where to go and navigate within, you know, the network and, and how to skill up and who to get
in contact with within that network. Uh, even if it's like a, you know, a Skillshare powwow and
discord or whatever it may be, um, they're really the ability to, um, to skill up and, and become
what Rostin was saying is that, uh, you know,
that active participant in, in this space, um, showing the power of this space, but also in,
you know, in these different brands and IPs, um, that brought you, you know, to, to them in the
first place. So I appreciate you having me up, man. Always, uh, gotta give Kevin his flowers.
Uh, I love that dude. And, and this has been a great space so far. So, uh, having me, man. Always got to give Kevin his flowers. I love that dude. And this has been a great space so far.
So I appreciate it, man.
Thank you so much for joining us here on stage.
And I think the communities are so important.
From my experience, I need to help with streaming.
I DM Honeybee.
He helped me how to set it up, right?
With IP, with 3D avatars, you can easily get your files,
so you can stream as your avatar if you want to.
It's getting so much easier these days.
And you will probably have your avatar in the other side soon too, right?
So we're going to 100% get into it.
Let me quickly refresh the room, say hi to Machiavelli,
and we're going to get into the manga,
and when we can expect it, and what's going on with the other side. So guys, if you want to
claim the code, claim the badge, the code is Italy. Go to op.xyz forward slash claim,
and the code is Italy. The art is made by incredible artist jubrell check it out it's also one of the
pin tweets here uh in the room so you can check it out claim the badge it's it's awesome macabre how
you doing bro i'm doing phenomenal man thanks for having me up uh it's been a good day uh excited
to hear uh you know about the rest of the manga and stuff like that.
Awesome, yeah, man. Let's get into the manga. So you said that you were starting with manga.
I quickly googled what's the difference between manga and anime.
So manga is basically like a comic book, right?
It's not an animation, it's a comic book.
So what's your plan with that?
How you want to distribute it?
And where do you can expect it, man?
Yeah, that's a bit early to review a lot of details around it, since we're still in the pre-production phase around it.
And so, you know, we're working a lot on the story and the script, how do you tell it from the main character's perspective
and all of those things.
But manga, indeed, for those that don't know,
it's like a comic, but then like Japanese.
And the ways that we're thinking about it,
internally we call it manga 2.0.
And the way that we're going to launch it is going to be in a very different way.
I think that one of the goals with it is definitely to have a very big online launch
and to showcase that, especially nowadays, you can build your own distribution,
you can launch it in your own way, and you can do that independently.
And that's a story that I really want to tell to the world. I think it's very important for us to do this. distribution, you can launch it in your own way and you can do that independent.
And that's a story that I really want to tell to the world.
I think it's very important for us to do this because especially manga, anime in general,
it's quite difficult to break through.
There's these big powerhouses in Japan that control the whole thing.
Usually manga artists get just bought out.
And yeah, there's some really crazy cases demon slayer for example
one of the most famous ones in the world i believe that the the creators received like 30 grand or
something for for their ip and uh they went on to make billions right and so like these are really
uh crazy cases and i think nowadays you know us not being from japan being from the west uh we
have to do it in a very different way.
And so we're working on a cool way of launching it that if we pull it off in the way that we're intending to, I think it could become really big news all across the globe.
Yeah, further, no more details.
This Thursday, though, we're going to do a deep dive on our BOSUS up where we uh dive uh into the way that we're
we're approaching writing it and and thinking about it um um i cannot yeah say any date yet
this is especially a product that um like i was i was listening to alex or mosey today and
somebody asked him a question and and he said like how do you know if your product is really good
and he's like well usually if you create a product and then you ask yourself if you take two more
weeks what are the things that you would improve right you will always find things and and it on
the moment for example with his book launch there was literally a moment there's like there's nothing
that i can improve on it anymore now it's good right? And that's how we want to create the manga.
We want to try to make it the best thing ever
and then get my brother's taste, obviously, to do it.
So yeah, no date yet.
Definitely not very short term.
So we'll take some time before we get to that place.
We might release it not in the full version,
but a bit earlier for the community.
We'll see how it plays out.
But I'm very excited about it.
I think it will be our first big product
that could speedrun us to mass adoption
because if the story is really good
and the product is just really, really good,
people will tell each other and it can go fast.
But yeah, very excited about it.
Can't wait for that.
I know you said you can't say any dates, but is it 2026?
Can we expect this year?
I don't dare to say.
I don't dare to say.
Okay.
Well, there's other stuff coming.
One thing I will say, collector profiles on the way,
and I'm really excited about that.
Just to touch on Ilin's point and shout out to Ilin as well.
He's been a supporter of Final Basu before our second collection launch.
We have a first collection, obviously, on ETH, the Basu Legacy that he's been a part of
and uploaded with his face, where my brother turned him into an anime character.
And yeah, the Collector Profile for us as well, well it's really like we'll start as a basic
version but we're thinking a lot about co-creation right and how how we can co-create with our
community and get them to give input on their characters so um that's one that i'm really
excited about and um in general as elon touched on the network um It's something that I think a lot about
because if you look on Instagram, right,
and I've worked with a lot of animators
this last year or so,
like a lot of them are creating fan art
and they're kind of trying to build up
their profile on Instagram
so that studios recognize them.
And they usually do it with like a vague PSP, right?
There's like a cat or like something random.
And I start having conversations with these animators.
I'm like, why don't you take a character from us?
And you start creating animations, you know,
around that character specifically,
and then we can help you support you, right?
And it makes a lot of sense to them.
And so I think that that's actually the power of NFTs
or digital collectibles or the co-creation
that i know there's some kind of almost hate towards it in a way where artists and animators
they don't like nfts but the concept of nfts like that you can own a character is is brilliant like
every time i explain it in a simple way they're mind blown and they're like what this is crazy so
i can own a character that's then part of the franchise i'm allowed to create around it and you guys will
help me support like that that part is really insane i think that's that's network as well um yeah
yeah the art is great uh are you also in touch with Azuki somehow? Because they have the website anime.com, right?
They were one of their early projects that I know.
Is it possible to collab with them or it doesn't make sense for you?
Yeah, definitely see a future where that could happen.
I've definitely had, yeah, contact with the whole team.
Obviously, they went through some changes lately as well.
And so I haven't catch up with them for a while love to do that um definitely see uh yeah when the
when the time is right i think we're all in this phase right now of of building up the fundamentals
for for uh take off of the franchise um so yeah we'll see when that um when the right time is
there rita mentioned here something about Other Side,
so can you add something to that?
Are you planning to release avatars in The Other Side?
Yeah, definitely, man.
How can we not?
We're working with Rita behind the scenes
to produce some avatars.
We're very much focused on our main characters for now.
But yeah, definitely open to expand it more.
Super bullish on it.
Always been a big World of Warcraft gamer in the past.
Haven't played for ages now.
Last couple of years, been more Fortnite.
But I've always been a big fan of open worlds.
And it's going to be crazy, man.
The amount of resources and time they've been putting into this.
And AI.
It's perfectly coming together. And they have a really good shot actually for for something massive and
so yeah man like representing uh our characters in there it's going to be honest um um yeah super
excited about that uh actually uh i don't know right i still here but uh our creative directors
uh yeah giving a lot of feedback making sure that the avatar gets perfect, so super excited about it.
The beauty about Other Side these days is
that you can enter with just one
collection avatar, right? And you can create
the detailed avatars later
and basically the pipeline
now is you create avatar and then you
do other games, right? Machiavellian hype?
That's how it works these days?
Yeah. Did I say that he needs Machavelet hype. That's how it works these days. Yep.
Did I say that he needs a story?
Kev, have you ever experienced other games?
If I've ever experienced other games?
No, not yet.
Damn, Machavelet. What are we going to do about it, not yet. Damn, what are you,
what are we going to do about it,
man?
Kev,
we're going to onboard you.
You got to come in.
Well,
I actually downloaded everything on my computer,
but,
didn't sit yet.
you know,
I'm,
I'm afraid for myself.
let's hop on a call.
Let's hop on a call.
And,
and,
and,
and get you in there.
Let's go.
Let's go.
I appreciate that a lot. Thanks. I'm gonna call and get you in there. Let's go, let's go. I'm down, yeah, I hit you in the DM.
I appreciate that a lot.
Thanks.
So, Kev, let's say someone heard about Final Ballsuit for the first time.
What's the best way to actually join the community and how to...
What are the best places how to interact with the community members?
Because I can easily say with board aids,
it's other games these days
or it's any other event organizing the other side.
After so many years here on X,
I can easily recognize all the avatars there.
And basically, I know those PFPs more than their real faces, right?
And it's great.
It's always fun.
And I enjoy it.
You can hang out.
You can chat.
We have so many group chats here also.
But I don't know, guys.
Do you still go to Discord?
Makavali and Hype.
I know you have to...
Oh, I have to do this today.
Yeah, man, with KYC.
I'll be on the teenage plan
or how you call that plan.
But Machiavelli, do you hang out in a BYC Discord too much?
Not actually. I really don't hang out in the Bored ABI Discord very much.
But I do hang out in my office in my own Discord a lot.
Me and Machiavelli apparently have spent the most time together in 2025 well according to
mccvelli's stats you know it said i was my best friend because we worked in the office the most
oh hold on you know it says that um i'm mccvelli's best friend on discord but honeybee's actually my
best friend in discord that's just the stats whether it's true or not, well, I guess we'll see.
Yeah, Honeybee was your best friend before Bangkok got him. Yeah, that's what happened with Honeybee.
Bangkok does have him, bro. Did you see his haircut?
He got it. He's like One Piece now, or he's fucking one of those like... Yeah, he's manga now, bro.
He shaved his head.
He looks like a boy again.
He looks 12.
You thought he was 12 before?
Now he looks 10.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
I will have to check it out.
So, Kev, what's the best way for people actually to join or engage with the community?
Yeah, definitely Discord still.
Our Discord community is super active.
Anybody that, yeah, obviously more than welcome,
we open it up as well to non-holders
because, you know, people from Instagram are starting to come in as well
and there will be an educational section as well for them.
And so, yeah, that's the best place.
Obviously, we have two NFTs, the Buster Legacy on EAT,
where you can purchase a badge or upload with a photo.
My brother hand draws an anime character based on your face
and you actually turn into a character.
Or our collection on abstracts that anyone can join as well.
So yeah, but Discord definitely, we do have a,
I want to say Facebook community, that's very old school,
but X community
but Discord is definitely most active
Awesome and I have another question
and it's related to Chain
because
you have one collection on ETH right
and then you were deciding
which way to go
there are not like you have you can go ETH, right? And then you were deciding which way to go. You can go ETH,
you can go BASE, you can go ApeChain, you can go Abstract, you can go Solana or so probably.
So how is it going on Abstract? I'm checking the NFTs there. There are not that many collections
as on ApeChain, but I think Apechain is a little bit different because, as Gargaz said, it's focused a lot on the other side.
So, how do you like Abstract so far? Do you have any support from them? How is it going there?
Yeah, definitely a bit of mixed feelings at the moment. Definitely bullish on abstract in general.
Definitely long-term, the portal, the apps.
I think that direction is great.
NFT-wise, not sure, long-term.
Definitely knowing just it being the mother chain.
My mindset has always been kind of just knowing that if we go to abstract
and just what we're building, I just think we can be number one there.
And that would be more bullish than number 20 on ETH.
Nowadays, I'm doubting if that's truth or number 20 on ETH will be better.
But we'll see how that plays out long term.
I feel like our horizon is long term as well.
And so I'm not really in a hurry.
And just giving AppStrike the time to build.
Obviously, Luca is super bullish, Sire is super bullish.
And yeah, initially support was really great.
I think they've kind of turned a bit away towards NFTs and are more focused on different apps,
what I understand, because ultimately if they
really want to make it, yeah, their apps really need to function and they need to find, yeah,
market fit with the things that they're doing.
And so, yeah, just seeing, man.
But yeah, definitely, I've always been in EAT.
Max, I've always been most bullish on ETH and NFTs. So I feel like one place my heart is there.
But in another way, I'm always open to experiment and to see where this right takes us.
I know that our community definitely mixed.
A lot of people that are with us because of Final Boss 2.
But there's also a bunch of people that are with us because they're really big on abstract.
I do notice difficulties with onboarding like bigger collectors,
and there's kind of this gap,
so I've always had to fight an uphill battle
because it's like getting them bullish on final boss 2,
and then I need to get them bullish on abstract, right?
And sometimes people are just like, no, sorry, I don't.
I only buy on EAT, right?
And so, yeah, it's definitely a mixed one.
But, yeah, bullish on Luca and Saiger for finding ways to make this work, right?
Like, there's no doubt.
As long as they stay excited, like, I'll keep supporting it.
They say Ape Chains is the home of NFTs.
I mean, I really like the culture of you guys a lot actually.
It feels very companionship or camaraderie.
I had a very bullish on Memo, so I'm just in the audience.
Met him in Paris as well.
Got a shot of tequila and a bottle of tequila from him.
Super good guy.
And always, I don't know, you guys is vibe and it always felt very unified so
yeah definitely yeah definitely bullish
so kev what are the upcoming um releases uh or any any next step in the final bossu journey
yeah i think like pushing all the you know all the the socials i think that's a
big focus for us making sure that the brand keeps growing um there's a lot of short animations in
progress to tell the story of final bossu super excited about that uh there are smaller releases
there's some physical items that we're working on. There's one physical item in particular I'm really excited about.
It's going to be an awesome small-sized collection that the legacy holders are definitely going to benefit first from.
So I'm really excited about that.
It's something that we're working on closely with a community member.
There's a lot of smaller drops and things that we're working on,
some different partnerships and collapse.
But I think our big next release
would definitely be the collector profile.
Yeah, that's coming closer and closer
and I'm super excited about that.
Our team is working really, really hard on it.
And yeah, I'm excited to see that play out.
And yeah, see, because we do get like,
like I think one thing that I've noticed
with our collection is that people are really
into the traits and are really researching.
Like, if somebody, like, gets hit by our collection and they generally like it, they like anime, they're searching for hours in traits.
And so I'm really excited to amplify that with the collector profile.
I think that's a really important part that's going to showcase a lot of the good traits.
And, yeah, it's going to be fun.
Do you have any timeline on that where when we can expect it um soon soon ish
uh we're always trying to get alpha you know how it works we're aiming for q1 we're aiming for q1
We're aiming for Q1.
Okay.
You know how it's with collectors, right?
And NFT degens in general.
You need to keep them engaged.
So that's what I love about other games.
And also spaces, right?
Because I see so many legends here in the space listening right now
that you are still in touch with your community
and you are having fun and
for me other side is really other side and spaces is is great because you don't have the algorithm
so basically you you know we host this space we know who's coming here if we get someone who we
don't know on stage and he's killing the wipe, we just get him out of the stage. That's easy, right?
It's so much harder on my timeline where I see crazy stuff.
So absolutely love this. Love Spaces, love other games, other side.
It's a great vibe and it's fun and it's moving forward, right?
It's moving forward. How actually AI tools changed the way how you manage FinalBosu?
how actually ai tools changed the way how you manage uh final bossu yeah a lot like we're uh
like spending a lot of time on it in in different ways um obviously like i saw some clips today by
the way from um i can't remember the name now but from dragon ball that kid it's crazy like
animation is really started to uh get together There's obviously like vibe coding and there's so many things like internally,
like apps to manage our work better that we're building
that normally would cost so much money to developers.
And now we can just do it in-house all with literally prompts.
And so that's just crazy.
But also with art, like it's announcing like a lot.
And I think it's not there yet to be able to produce it like
fully from scratch but the ways that we're we are looking at it is is more if you feed it the sketch
and you ask it to do line art and you have an artist that can do some corrections i think
that's really powerful and costs a lot of the the time away right so normally would like uh
our creative director would create a sketch,
send it to an artist, artist takes three weeks,
you know, get 600 bucks paid.
And then the creative director still has to go in and do feedback and changes.
And now it's like, our creative director creates a sketch,
throws it in AI, four seconds later, it's there,
industrial corrections, next phase, right?
And like, you're getting so much faster.
So yeah, experimenting a lot.
Still not there, but it's coming.
Like, there's no doubt that, yeah.
That's also one of the reasons why we're like,
maybe manga is a better idea.
Because before we know it,
you probably just upload the manga and there's an whole anime, an whole episode ready.
It's definitely coming.
Yeah, the progress of AI is insane.
Also, BAYC is working on anime, and I don't know how far is it I think I heard Gargau and saw him on timeline saying that he's been working
on a script for the studio so I don't know how much
time it takes to make it actually but
that will be dope
yeah I think
having anime
that's a great content for socialists
right like you can repurpose it
you can share it on TikTok, Instagram
everywhere so can't wait for that it's gonna be a banger hmm Like you can repurpose it, you can share it on TikTok, Instagram, everywhere.
So can't wait for that.
It's going to be a banger.
How can people support you these days, man?
What's the best way?
Of course, one is getting the NFT, but is there anything else that, you know, maybe you would like to connect with someone or?
Yeah, sweep the floor is always a good I'm kidding but yeah
obviously if somebody likes the art like join us but if there's connections in
the world that that's that always goes a long way especially in this space of so
many amazing people with different backgrounds so yeah I'm always open man
like I really like my mindset is generally just being open to anybody.
And so if anybody ever wants to connect,
feel free to reach out and we'll connect.
And thanks, grateful.
Super grateful for hosting this
and letting me tell my story.
Really, really appreciate it.
Yeah, 100%.
Thank you so much for joining. there like maybe i have one more
question and that's like what's the big picture for uh for final bossu i know these questions
like where do you see yourself in five years no that's not a question like what's your big picture
where you want to see the brand heading in 2026.
Yeah, I think right now it's a lot of fundamentals work of getting the story right.
I think that's something that we're investing a lot in.
Because I think there's no anime in the world that works without that.
And so this is literally our version of Marvel, of Naruto, of One Piece, of The Matrix, definitely.
A lot of references in Final Boss towards that. So I think that's a very big thing and
that just simply takes time and focus. But my brothers are full-time focused on that.
It's the only, well, 95% of their work right now locked in on that part.
And yeah, just building up and the brands, getting more followers, growth, licensing
deals, different products, you know, inspiring people as well.
I think the against the odds message is something that's really, yeah, really important to us. And I want to spread that and make sure it's going to inspire people
from across the globe and have a lot of fun while we're doing it.
And yeah, see where this takes us.
Yeah, it 100% makes sense, man.
Also, we're having a badge on OpenPage.
Guys, so op.xyz forward slash claim. The code is Italy. Do you have your community on OpenPage, guys. So op.xyz forward slash claim.
The code is Italy.
Do you have your community on OpenPage, bro?
No, I'm not.
What is it?
Holy smoke.
Nana, he's in the audience right now.
Nana, you know, hit that DM.
I think it's a great way also to engage with your audience.
You collect badges on
chain, but badges are just one part. There are so many
more things, so definitely check it out. I think it's a cool way how to engage with your
community. Machavel and Hype could say probably more because
they've been using it for other games too a lot. So definitely check
that out. And is there anything else you would
love to share or something that i forgot to ask you man um yeah just thanks again for for letting
me share the story and just thanks to all the buses i see so many uh in the audience uh down
below here i know that um yeah it's not always easy to stay supportive during downtimes. And I think that, yeah, the way the community is showing up every day on the timeline and interacting with each other and just generally being really supportive.
I see constantly, like when we did the free hoodie drop during Christmas, you know, some holders got it and then others didn't get it.
And then, you know, our holders that got it just started
giving it out to to each other and i think that's super beautiful uh it's just such a i'm just so
blessed with the community that we have right now and so just shout out to you all like uh we
wouldn't be here without you literally so i'm just super grateful that um yeah i'm allowed to do this
every day with my brothers like it's kidding me like we were literally kids making our own shows and now we're adults and i'm just
working from my home office every day on the franchise like it's um you know i think we've
oh sorry guys i'm uh starting to receive calls off the wife that I need to go and put the kids to sleep so daddy duty is starting
uh keep breaking up um let me send her a message quick that I'm uh on the way to the kids
yeah man thank you so much for sharing all the stuff uh can we expect Avatars on Thursday or next Thursday? That's my last question here, you know. Depends on Ryda. I want to get started, man. I'm excited. Okay, guys. DM Ryda,
when when Avatars, everyone here, please. He's got he's gonna be really happy about it. But yeah,
Kev, good luck. Can't wait to see the manga and everything you've been guys doing. I also see beautiful Cool Cat in the audience.
Oh my god, I love that IP so much.
Cool Cat, such a beautiful IP.
Come on, let's go, guys.
But Kev, again, thank you so much for joining, guys.
We're not ending here.
We're going to be talking about other side and everything that's happening there.
So again, shout out to you.
Thank you, Final Boss, for joining us here.
Let's go, man. If you can, join us on Saturday or Machiavelli to you. Thank you, FinalBoss for joining us here. Thank you. Appreciate it, man. Let's go, man. If you can, join us on Saturday or
Machiavelli DM you and he'll get you to the other side
so you can check it out, have a feel and maybe create some
experience for your community there, man.
100%. We'll do that. Thanks, man. Thanks, guys.
Thanks, man. Thanks, guys.
Thank you, man.
Thank you, man.
I can't wait to it.
Sorry,
Marcovelli.
It's my fault.
It's my fault.
Maybe it's my fault. Do you remember that,
Ed? Hype, you remember that, Ed, right?
Yeah, it's both your
guys' fault, okay? Just take the fault.
You guys both split it, okay?
Oh, well, guys, that's a great time to refresh the room.
I will quickly find the ad that I mentioned.
Give me a second.
It's this one.
Yeah, it's this one.
It's a true story.
Maybe it's my fault. Maybe I led you to believe it was easy when it wasn't maybe
I made you think my highlights started at the free throw line and not in the gym
maybe I made you think that every shot I took was a game winner. That my game was built on flash and not fire. Maybe it's my fault that
you didn't see that failure gave me strength. That my pain was my motivation. Maybe I led you
to believe that basketball was a God-given gift and not something I work for every single day of my life.
Maybe I destroyed the game.
Or maybe you're just making excuses.
Yeah, guys, remember, whenever you're losing to me in other games,
listen to this ad.
Because, yeah, maybe I mastered the game, but also maybe you didn't practice that much and you made excuses.
Yeah, that's why I won.
We broke record in the other side on Saturday.
Hype, go ahead, man.
I see you unmuted.
Yo, you got AlphaDigen to do commercials now?
What the fuck?
Who shamed my boy?
No, AlphaDigen is someone like Jackson, bro. Do you not sound like AlphaDegen to do commercials now? What the fuck? Who shamed my boy? No, AlphaDegen is someone like Jaxson bro.
I know, but he sounded like a sexy, sexier, savvier version of AlphaDegen.
Yeah, he sounded like AlphaDegen bro.
But MJ is 6'6 or 6'7, AlphaDegen is 5'7, so I don't know bro.
Is he 5'7? I thought he was like 5'6.
He's like 5'5", bro. He's short.
Once you get rid of the new balance, he's like 5'5". Oh my god, we roasted Alpha Legion here,
but he's on his background. He deserved that kind of.
Guys, so what's going on with other games this week?
Hype, tease it a little bit.
What's coming? Give us some this week? Hype tease it a little bit. What's coming?
Give us some alpha what you're cooking, guys.
And what's going on with that AI model?
Do you have access to it?
Yeah, yeah.
We got the model, but I want Max to queue it up.
Because he's got some stuff going on tonight.
So I think we should just queue up with what he's got going on tonight.
Chaos trials.
Oh, no.
Everybody out there, bro.
I was looking in the audience. I was like, man, these people definitely
heard my spiel about the Chaos
Trials. Tonight at 10 p.m., we'll be
going to Gemrush, and
it's going to be a little storytelling. We're going to go over some
of this past story, then I'm going to give the conclusion
with the viewpoints of
Red and Blue, and then we'll go into
Gemrush, and we're going to be strategic
about
the way that we take care of gem rush because
We set a pretty good record before with 24 people, you know, I'm saying usually on these nights
We have anywhere between like 50 to 60 people show up. So
Depending on if we you know have an appropriate strategy
I think that we we could take gem rush and uh, you know mark ourselves down as number number one and hold a good place unless you get that strategy together again.
It's going to be chaos tonight.
It's going to be chaos tonight, Grateful.
Just pure chaos.
Come on through.
I know it's 4 o'clock in the morning for you.
That's no excuse.
It's just early.
Bro, Gemrush is that new multiplayer game?
Yes, sir
It's actually fun, too
Like, listen, I tried every which way
To sneak inside of this thing, too
And you automatically get
Teleported into the thing
Even if you try to, like, hug yourself
Like, they're not letting you in that building
If that door's closed
Like, you automatically get spawned respond
So, um, we uh, we went opened it a few times and just walked around it
We just we had some fun last night
Uh actually just kind of learning that map and uh the way that it's structured and stuff and it's kind of cool
To see that biome come to life in a multiplayer game
Uh right there down in the
Pulse district like I really do
Like the way that they kind of played into that
And like gave us this
And like if you really go inside and like
Take a time to pay attention to like
The moving liquid and stuff there's even
Stuff like flowing out on the sides like if you
Walk around the building
And stuff like so I don't know
I just I really liked this feature.
I really liked the way that they introduced this biome with the multiplayer game.
And then, uh, yo, 300 gems as fast as you can, you know, um, it, you know, with, but
I think with some strategy, you know, we could take it home.
We did it with 79 people.
We did it in 38 seconds, right?
That's just pure, pure chaos.
And I think half the people in this room were there.
But I think, let's see what we can do with some controlled chaos.
But yeah, man, join us if you can.
And then, of course, here very shortly, very shortly, there'll be communities headed down the catwalk.
I'll turn that over to Hype.
Over to you, Hype.
Wrong song.
Yeah, yo, 3 o'clock Eastern today, guys.
We got five more projects for Project Runway.
Shout out to all the projects coming through.
This is day two of two
of Project Runway,
so we have five more projects coming through.
If you guys haven't been in
and seen one of these,
we're going to be holding it in the Nexus Temple, in the Temple Garden,
inside the Temple, I think level three, which is the top floor. So you guys come through,
we got Pixel Pals, we got obviously, we got the Foxy Fam in the house, we got Stargirls and a few
others. So come through. This is day two. And then after today, we're going to be celebrating
three days of the fashion show. It is New York Fashion Week this week. So we have a bunch of designers that submitted their designs for the next three days.
There's a bunch of judges, special guests.
They're going to be judging.
And then we got Saturday, which is going to be World of Women, which is going to be exciting.
So we're excited to have them.
Prophecy fulfilled.
If you guys haven't seen yet and noticed that the new Kodakam has the
Valentine's overlay so
Make sure you guys check that out too
But yeah we got 3 o'clock today Eastern
And then stay tuned on other games XYZ
For tomorrow through Friday for the
Fashion piece and then
Looking forward to Saturday
Listen I see Jabril down there
Jabril did some wearables and stuff For heart.exe and the Nexus fashion show.
Other games fashion show. So you know maybe we can get Jabral to come up and speak on his pieces. You know what I'm saying?
So on and so forth. I don't know. I think it'd be it'd be cool. What do you think Grateful?
100% let's get him here. Jabral request I'll bring you up here. Also guys,
retweet the space so more people can see it, more people can join us and vibe with us so
also more people will listen to the recording and grab that badge. The code for the badge is Italy.
Yeah, as the country where Olympics are hosted, it's very easy.
Olympics are hosted it's very easy
Are you available tomorrow grateful
Which
At 3pm
Thursday at 3pm EST because
I do have a line that will be introduced
During the show
With me and Smudgy we have a line called
Brrrr in it
And I could use
Some very You know call brrrr isn't it and uh it's i i could use uh some very uh you know well placed models i think
that you'd be perfect for it fuck he's just grateful he's looking for the sexiest guy on
the other side just be blunt for sure i'm ready bro i'm ready hit me up in dms and let's see how
we can do that how to put those incredible pieces on my ape. There we go. What's good, Grateful?
What's up, what's up, Sixt?
How is it going?
Great time, great time.
I was listening to Boss to Cave.
I think the way I see it,
anime is going to have its season again,
because Azuki was trying to do a manga,
Datoria tried to do a manga too
we might see
that anime
resurgence again
in NFTs
yeah
BYC is also
cooking anime
so it's going to be
very interesting
that one is going to be
banger because
BYC was not even
touching anime
just saw the
trailer
and I was like, ah, mice!
But I was like, mice!
Because on the other side, they could just relax after the other side.
But still pushing into anime after the other side.
Bro, that was going attack, attack, attack. I love it.
Hell yeah, hell yeah. Guys, do you actually play that? Well, I see Apechain account here
You tell me probably more about it. What's that that beard?
I haven't started I have to catch up. Makavelli you talked about it earlier. What's going on with those?
What those Kodakams?
That's the Blackbeard's Hunt So they're putting out locations
The first one started yesterday
And it happened to be
On the level of the fashion show
Where we were doing the first community showcase
I don't know where the one today will be
You know what I'm saying? I don't know
You have to ask the ApeCoin, ApeJane intern
You know, I know that they'll be putting out
Their other bounties on a daily basis
This season will be I don't know quite how long but I know that this is going to be coming in waves.
So, you know, $50,008 for the prize pool, $18,008 for first place.
You know, that's a couple of grand.
You know, listen, I'll go snap a corner camp too.
You know, I'll go do the challenges too. Why not? You know what I'll go snap a corner Kim too you know I'll go Do the challenges too
Why not you know what I'm saying
Let's go
Let's go
Yo shout out to Jack Sparrow's cousin Machiavelli
Yo but listen go to
Go to the Ape Chain or Ape Coin
Page and then I think it is Let me read you off the website right here, just so I can get a chart.
Yeah, it's the black, hold up, nope, nope, wrong one.
Damn it, damn it, where do I go here?
Yeah, it's a blackbeard.apechain.com.
Dot com.
That's the one.
Please don't come. Please don't come please don't come
we're
you never know
we may be
headed to
Davy Jones
locker
next
so can I still
go there today
and take a photo
or I'm late
no no no
Lost told us
that all of the
quests will remain
active um uh for you know once they're No, no, no. Lost told us that all of the quests will remain active.
For, you know, once they're announced.
And it just started like less than 24 hours ago.
So I think that like everybody's got, it's a perfect ample opportunity to partake in it.
And you don't got to go out there and take a ton of photos, a minute photo, a ton of photos or anything like that.
You know, one or two.
I think it costs about 60 cents a minute photo right now, which isn't bad.
Take it from somebody who's taking a lot of go-to-gammon and a lot of go-to-gammon photos.
But it's, I'm having fun.
You know what I'm saying?
These are the early days.
You're going to have that early piece of history here in the other side.
And, yo, the Valentine's Day filters are kind of cool.
Yeah, I'm just checking it bro like is there also location in swamp is that correct from
the waterfall yeah there's that what would we tell about trippy top tippy top
of the waterfall that's the one right yeah yeah yeah what about it oh I'm just
checking the side,
so you have to go there, you take a picture,
and then you verify on the side.
That's how it works, right?
Okay, go to the tippy top. Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, guys, if you haven't done it,
go to the other side, finish this quest.
I'll do it just right after we wrap up the space,
and I cannot wait, wait man I love these challenges
I just don't know when it ends so it probably it probably doesn't end right you still have time to do that
no no no it doesn't yeah he said that there'll be ongoing but just to get them started you know like
you can't wait to the very last minute to get it going and try to get them all done.
You know what I mean?
You need to start the challenge, essentially.
Loved it.
Loved it.
Don't procrastinate, G.
Don't.
What he's saying, basically, is don't procrastinate.
Don't wait until last day.
It is two weeks, though.
Grateful.
Lost did say it's two weeks.
It won't be every day.
But as he said,
it's probably going to be around $25 total to do the challenges.
But he said that obviously if there's more people that are interested
and more people to partake, it might increase the amount of hunts.
But right now he said it could be every day,
it could be every other day, but it's for two weeks.
Loved it, loved it. every other day but it's for two weeks love that love that so basically it's gonna be
beard hunter yeah that sounds great uh it sounds great it looks like lost
beard hunter yeah i'm down for some beer beer hunter let's go
epic guys can't wait to do that if you are new to other side guys go there
do the challenges
Max out your character. I'm level 40. I don't know what else to do. I'm too good But maybe you're not level 40 and you still have time to level up guys
I'm kidding. I'm kidding, but go you guys notice also Curtis is not there anymore
He's not there anymore. He's not at his normal resting place.
He's not at his normal resting. Yeah Curtis and blue have
Yeah, Curtis and Blue have moved.
They are off doing something, but they are no longer standing where they stood in the swamp.
Oh, that's interesting.
It's so funny to see the difference between swamp and Nexus, right?
The swamp is so chilled, relaxed, boring and nexus is like going for a
techno party or something like that so yeah we gotta remember that nexus is on a chaos deed
you know so those very fortunate few out there that have the chaos deeds you can expect to
you know and the swamp is like a retirement home yeah you go there relax reminds me of florida
very much so doesn't it like you know what i'm saying yeah the sunset you know or sunrise
not like miami you know but like you know
100 bro with the gators and everything it's a dope place dope place
Guys what you're going my story. I really liked that that token gator activation to like the way that they did the
Their addition to the swamp and like how their og apes and like just the lore that they came with it like
That's super dope watching that being set up inside of the other side
And like, you know watching that story unfold in itself.
And like events like, you know, from bullies to other individuals have already done little pop ups and lines lineups there.
And, you know, they're ripping packs and just like, you know what I mean?
Just seeing the community actually like come together and do little activations and stuff like that from every single walk.
I think that's also been like very gratis, you gratis a lot of gratitude yeah gratifying there you go that's the word i'm trying to look
for i don't know i don't say words like that very often um but yeah it's been it's been very gratifying
uh to um see like this development and just watch it still like you know each one reach one teach
one type situation so i'm i'm
i'm really really happy to be a part of this yo grateful also real quick i don't know um we had
we had uh von doom on friday night if he heard the alpha so he did drop a little bit of alpha
about uh bathroom blitz coming back soon as well as maybe another little activation coming his way
from command line so we got more things
coming bro i mean for all of us to participate in which is great right so i'm looking forward
to that there's gonna be other blitzes i'll say that i don't care if it's recorded there's gonna
be other blitzes we don't know what other blitzes but there's gonna be other blitzes and he put that
out on the timeline if you go look and pay attention over the past few weeks of command
line and stuff like there's going to be other blitzes and so he said that the experiences would be rolling out
like you know within each other like so like we'll get bathroom blakes back here in a couple of weeks
you know it's what we were told like quote unquote um but like i'm excited to see that evolution
spawn because uh it's a nice uptrip.
And then, you know, listen, I got a lot of people wanting Outbreak back.
Like, a lot of people love Outbreak.
And it's fun.
You know what I'm saying?
It really is fun.
Would love another season of that as well.
I think both of those were successful. And then, listen, Primal Instinct, you know, it was only just a couple of weeks ago that it was teased. And you know what,
three weeks ago that we had them on the, on right here on the grateful show.
So I, I think that that's something that, you know,
that's probably going to be very close to testing and you know what I mean?
Like how exciting is that? Like they're, I just, they're cooking,
you know what I mean?
And with the whole MML stuff being worked on and that structure being like, you know, it's we've got some exciting, exciting, exciting times ahead of us.
And, yeah, we just got, you know, day by day, day by day.
We will not recognize that place in the next year.
You know what I'm saying? It's going to evolve.
It's going to grow. The experiences are going to compound.
The communities are going to come.
It's great times great times
Yeah, man bathroom blitz and outbreak such a great game side so much fun. We just have to ban your
Your friend from other games, you know, dino balls. No, no
No, no fucking
Hey, listen, somebody's gotta sit on it on the throne, bro
You know somebody's got to do it and somebody's got to try to take them out and let's see what happens this next season cuz
Yo, he's you know, he's ready. You know saying like he's been practicing. Yeah, I better watch out
Guys how how do you think about a the builder for the deeds uh just a pure speculation i started
playing with a fortnite builder to see how it works uh if we can expect do you think we can
expect something similar to dead you know i've been thinking a lot about that um because i was
like yo why would like somebody needs to go build the swamp out in Roblox.
Like, build out the Nexus.
That's what I want to do in Fortnite, bro.
Yeah, build it out and then just have a gateway that leads back to it that just says other side dot XYZ.
Come see what the real thing looks like.
I just think that would be so funny. Don't anybody thing looks like. I just think that would be so funny
Don't anybody go do that. I just thought it would be funny
But do you think the builder will be similar to what actually for that has I'm you know
I can't I can't never tell you that I've built anything in fortnighter or played like that
so I'm not a lie. Yeah, i'm not the
it's not my style, but um, I
I'm interested to see like, you know what type of vibe coding situation it is
but like
Also, I think what's important to like whatever it looks like if it's going to require that kind of input where we're writing prompts and stuff
I just think we got to level up on the way that we're explaining and describing and giving direction and stuff like that.
Like, because the prompt is going to be the most powerful thing that you can really do when it comes to that type of building or being able to explain yourself in context to the device so that it produces exactly what you want.
I mean, like finding that medium right there
is, I think going to be like maybe a little difficult for some people, but once, you know,
you get comfortable or get in that motor, you're able to prompt and it, you know, deliver, or
you're able to receive what you're exactly what you're explaining to do it. And I don't know,
I'm really interested. I know what I want to do. I know what I want to build. know what i want to build like i'm i'm very uh i've thought about
that a lot like um i wonder how big i wonder how big of a tier five really is built all the way
out when it's stretched it's stretched to its capacity because i wonder if i could fit everything
on one on one deed for real you know i think it's a swamp right swamp is tier five i don't i've never i've i heard it
was tier three oh really i thought it was yeah i don't know i mean listen like listen there's so
many rumors i don't even know i don't even know it's real is there docs on that i don't know um
so i i really don't know like i wonder how big it is. I've never really thought about that.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
I know Fortnite, they have their own
custom programming language called Verse.
And I know they have some vibe coding tools for that.
And the builder is basically drag and drop.
So you pick what you want to do.
It's probably not that hard,
but it really takes a lot of time
and to make something really dope,
it's going to be tough.
But I would love to build Swamp there
and basically point people from there
to other side, right?
That would be dope.
But I can't wait to build.
I need those tools.
I need to do something with that.
I want to bring all my ideas into life
and you bring it by just doing and fucking around in the other side.
So I really hope we're going to get those ODK accesses or whatever it is soon
and we can start playing in the other side.
Even if we have a small one,
just a small island that I can try to build something,
I would love that. I can't wait for that.
Imagine you would build your own other games arena, guys. That's crazy. That's like a Squid Game level shit.
Who says we're not?
Say it, Mac. I mean, our world's pretty big.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Oops.
Yeah, it's gonna be crazy.
Oh, we have Gatsby, MFRE, joining us.
Another amazing aquamarine background. Guys guys so many legends here in the audience
I gotta go with the all these aquamarines up on the on stage. I just got you know, I got a headache. I gotta go
Thank you grateful for having me yo tropical virtual bubbles starts in 18 minutes. We'll see you there on the other side
It starts in 18 minutes
We'll see you there
On the other side
Let's go man
Gizme, welcome here
Anything you would love to add?
Not much man
I was just listening in
Just wanted to say
GM GM
I've been pissed here
Vibe coding
Why I listened in
To everything
Final Basu
And I'm bullish man
And uh
And yeah
Machiavelli better leave bro
Cause Orange isn't welcome
On the stage, man.
But yeah, I just wanted to pop in and say hello.
You enjoyed your few last months here on X, right?
Because they're going to ban it for everyone under 16.
Yeah, bro, exactly.
No, under 14, I've heard, right?
14, oh shit.
Yeah, bro.
Yeah, still four years to go, so it's okay.
I knew that. I knew that. So you mentioned Vibe coding. What have you Vibe coded? Any alpha?
I mean, yeah, I'm creating something. I'm not going to say the name because there's an account out there already where I'm testing automation and stuff.
But it's basically going to help everyone collect better on A chain on ethereum on abstract and on base
uh it's basically like a like an alarm system basically right uh for your grails and um that's
all i can say right now uh right now i'm pissed because i'm trying to put this new coding thing
that they came out with which is called code rabbit for security measures and like that
and man it's such a hassle to plug this in
um but yeah it's going pretty well man it's working now but uh might have to do some
improvements in the future because it's only going to be fetching stuff from openc you know
the infra from apis and stuff is right now a bit messed up on uh in general right reservoir is gone
alchemy is a bit unstable, so
it's just going to be using the OpenSea Stream
Appy for now, but I mean,
I think that's more than enough, you know,
at least to kick it off.
Awesome, man. Can't wait
to try it and see what you've
been cooking.
Guys,
what a great show. Gizbi, do you have anything
that you would love to share? Because we slowly
wrap it up so everyone
can move into the
tropical virtual bubble.
So anything else
you've been cooking? We have a
special Night Gliders
episode on Thursday
because they've been cooking also something
and Ape Chain and everything that's going on. So if you have any announcement, Gizbi, come on Thursday because they've been cooking also something and Ape Chain and everything that's
going on. So if you have any announcement, come on Thursday and share it for sure. But if you want
to share anything right now, go ahead, bro. I mean, right now, maybe not, maybe on Thursday I will,
but just keep it Rilla and get to hunting and completing those Kodakam picks and missions
under the flag of Rillas.
And let's see if we can get that sweet treasure from the AHA intern.
That's all, man.
Thanks for the amazing space again.
Oh, shit.
So I should pick Rillas as a community, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to pick one community.
But if you can and you want, you know, keep it Rilla and choose Rillas while submitting those hunts.
Let's go. Let's go, man. Love it. We'll go there after I have dinner right now and we'll go to the other side. Check it out.
Guys, thank you so much for tuning in. Big shout to everyone who supports us here. Thank you so much.
Tino, he's taking how we call it actually, like parental break or something like that. He has a, he has a little kid. Uh, so yeah, he's out basically because, uh,
yeah, he told me he sleeps like two, three hours a day. Um, it's tough,
it's tough, but it's good because we have another MFR that will be able to join
other side soon or soon, maybe in 10 years, uh, it's going to be different.
Other side, trust me, guys, big shout out to everyone. Have a great
Tuesday. Enjoy your week. Go to the
other side. Check all the challenges. Have fun.
You know, if you see something
that you don't like on timeline, you know,
mute it. Fuck it. Enjoy the
vibes. Enjoy some sports. Enjoy
Olympics. They are incredible. Enjoy
basketball. We have an all-star
weekend ahead of us.
We just had, of course, hype. Maybe one more
thing towards you, bro. How was the Super Bowl experience? How is the feeling and how is it to
be there live? It was great, man. I mean, honestly, the game itself was okay. Obviously, you know,
my team won, which was amazing, but the overall experience i mean the atmosphere is great the
production level just when you see it that level that high quality level of production was was crazy
um you know but yeah it was amazing to see live man that that halftime show
definitely definitely a sight to see man i mean most people don't see it on tv you know but being
there live to see all the production put together very quickly and taken apart.
Really cool. So, yeah, just, you know, it's it's it's a bucket list moment to be able to see that that live and see your team win, you know.
So that was that was really fun. And then, you know, the NBA All-Star Weekend in L.A. this weekend.
I mean, I don't think I'll be going to that, but I definitely try to attend the the fan fest and um it'll be fun man so i'll keep you i'll keep you up to date if i get to get out there
and see anything before uh next next thursday i mean it's gonna start i think next thursday
friday is gonna be fanfare so i'll definitely if you guys are having their uh abc space on
friday morning i'll try to tap in but no man i appreciate it was good it was good fun and uh
yeah if there's anything you guys can do irl like try to do it but no man i appreciate it was good it was good fun and uh yeah if there's
anything you guys can do irl like try to do it you know get off your bucket list if that's one of the
things you want to do in life so but uh looking forward to you guys today coming through the
other side for uh project runway see you guys then appreciate it let's go thank you so much hype
thank you so much everyone have fun and we have to keep going. That's all we can do, guys.
This was Grateful Show 437. Let's go, baby!
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