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Tuesday, Tuesday, April 22nd 22nd 2025 look at that another beautiful day to have a beautiful day
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tyler with the green bull hat
mando good morning lads how you guys doing today
i'm doing great man i'm doing fantastic market is pumping or at least bitcoin
is back above 90k we're looking good yeah and far coin far coin bitcoin far coin we've been
talking about that that barbell you know bitcoin far coin i mean so i was catching a nice bid
no but you know it's at levels unseen since three days but i'm sure we'll talk about all that
bitcoin is definitely up and we'd love to see that i can't wait to see a dominance actually i don't know what
it's at but it's probably really high uh tyler tyler tyler how you doing today i'm great as well
sun's shining our coins are pumping and you know i had to bring out the shirt for today we've
reclaimed one dollar so it was uh it was time to pull it back out.
I forgot that you bought their merch.
It's not their official merch.
I bought a hat today as well to commemorate reclaiming $1.
So you might see that on the show.
Fart coin scented candles.
Yes. So does it smell like fart?
I believe so. I do not own one.
But from what I understand.
Ah, it smells like success. That's the tagline. Ah, it smells like success.
It doesn't smell like farts.
Anyways, I'm sure we'll talk more about Farcoin in a minute.
Today on the show, market report.
Look, the market's looking amazing.
So we'll talk about that.
Don't get too excited yet, but you know, it's definitely a nice one.
So it's good to see Bitcoin above $90,000 and nice to see, uh, Ethereum managed to go to 1626.
Uh, anyways, market report, uh, we got, um, Tyler's top 100.
I mean, I'm sure Tyler has a lot to talk about because these days topics have been coming in hot.
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You tell me what's next I tell me what's now, actually, because this market is beautiful.
Yeah, it is a bit of a beautiful market.
We've had a big, big rally in Bitcoin above 9K, which I think is an important level
in people's minds. We obviously had gold continue its crazy charge here, hit 3,500, I think,
briefly this morning, though it's only up a little bit on the day now, 3, 4.30. So just
a good sign here for crypto that Bitcoin is having these gold-like tendencies,
and that's dragging the rest of the market up with it.
Bitcoin dominance, even on a day like today, is up higher again,
which I think is very important to note.
It's outperforming ETH, it's outperforming all the other major L1s.
Obviously, there are certain alts moving,
Normally, you start to see, at least around now,
a bit of an outperformance.
So, tough to beat Bitcoin in this market.
This was at 55 in december
and it was at 61 a month ago i think it can hit 70 in the next month i really do
i don't think that's that crazy but let's see the only thing that i think would get in the way
there would be stable coins but uh i think it could just keep going here. It really can.
Well, at least very close to 70% in my opinion.
Looks like that last bit of resistance was like 72-ish.
So maybe that would be the main target here.
But Bitcoin looks like it could run to 100K.
And I don't even know if the rest of the market would follow it in the same way.
If Bitcoin goes to 100K here, you know there was that really funny tweet back in the day,
which was like, ETH was at this level, ETH was at this level, ETH was at this level.
Bitcoin could hit 100K. I don't think ETH would break this level. That's bad, bro. Bitcoin could hit 100k.
I don't think ETH would break 2k.
That's like the ride over under, I think.
And I might be on the under.
I mean, for ETH and ETH holders.
But I've got i gotta say it's
it's not even good as for like i'm building something on l2 and i'm i think about this every day like i'm like what the fuck is going on here like we had the conversation you know i mean
yeah there's a slight departure i think and this this is what I think if you are bullish on Ethereum,
you can still be bullish on between the network and the token.
But ETH as a network, even with the L2s, is growing.
You know, like a lot of that has helped.
has helped. It's just the value that's gone back to
It's just the value that's gone back to the token.
Solana flipping Ethereum now become
moonboy one? I'm not even asking it
as a dunk. I'm asking seriously
like, does that conversation become more
it's still a long way for Solana
Look it's still a long way to get flipped in my opinion
I think let's just focus on the fact that Solana's keeping track of Bitcoin here Yeah, look it's still a long way to get flipped in my opinion. Yeah
This is so I think that's just focus on the fact that Solana is keeping track of Bitcoin here, which I think is a very good song
It's most of the L1s aren't so
Let's look at the top gainers there today you got Farcoin obviously again. I mean what's crazy to me is
I guess just Farcoin is currently top gator constantly top gator. I mean, I'm sure if I change this to like
Fuck ones right there. Wow towers. Jesus Christ boys towers have a week
How Look at this a week. Yeah. I bought a lot of Tau.
obviously there's some winners,
was there anything I missed
that caused this rise or I just woke up and shit was just like
there was no headline right
Tyler anything on the macro side
the Bitcoin ETF saw their biggest day
So I think that was noticed that was notable
Dogecoin eighth I'm just looking at memes here like wow. All right. Well look Bitcoin sweat 9420 that famous range, right?
Nine it's we're there like that was the remember
the range back then that we used to track was this one so we're literally at the we're literally
there so it's either we get smacked down here this is where it breaks out right since this was
the range i remember because it was because of this darth fader to our small candle that people used to track. So that was the range, which was $90,000 and then $104,000.
So do you guys think we're going $100,000 first or are we going back down to the 80s first?
Here's what you both think.
Looks like a breakout to me.
I've seen 92 K as a key level thrown around a bit from some of the,
I feel like there's some clean,
there's some clear air up there.
Like I'm not saying we're just going to speed run to all time highs,
but it's got a lot of positive momentum. we're just going to speed run to all-time highs by any means but
it's got a lot of positive momentum and i think the gold breakout has been big
as well yeah gold is insane what's an ounce of gold now like 3 400.
yeah i said the first thing today yes it's it's it hit 3 500 Wow, look at this chart.
This is a gold daily chart.
So what, does this thing ever have a blow-off top?
I love how crypto people will look at that chart and see that the blow-off top hasn't happened yet.
There's no blow-off top hasn't happened yet. There's no blow-off top.
Crypto charts have got us...
Gold does not move like this.
It's sideways for four years.
Look at the last 30 years of
gold. It does not move like
Wait, you told me this was sideways
for four years? Pretty much, right? So let's this was sideways for four years.
Oh, you could go further.
So that's a lot of years.
One day that's going to happen to gold.
What do we have to say here?
It just keeps forming higher cups handling down
what i tell you today tyler another cup and handle back to back called the boat and there's
going to be another one as soon as this leg up ends we'll we'll retrace 15 20 percent we had this
one here you know what the farccoin could just flip Solana at this stage.
My message to everyone who's been bullposting Farcoin
is we got to start raising the targets
because 10 is too close here.
The problem with the $10 target
is people are going to start front-running that.
So, like, you've got people are going to sell at $5.
It doesn't want to be number two.
This train goes one direction.
Let me pull it up for you.
He's now becoming one of the top fart traders
It's definitely going to flip Trump
Oh, that must have happened this morning.
Flipping Pepe would be big, right?
So what's Pepe right now?
I'm checking for you right now.
But Ethereum is really weighing it down.
Yeah. It sucks because it's a great coin. But Ethereum is really weighing it down. Like insane. Yeah.
Because it's a great coin.
I fucking love Pepe, man.
If you're looking at trade,
It feels like it's lost a bit of its
I personally think Farcoin's a better meme than Pepe.
It's got more universal appeal.
we don't even really know who's actively buying Shiba.
It just feels like no one stays up there.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean,'s the big target. That's 7.4. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, my target's never changed.
It was five bear case, 10 base case, and like 50 bull case.
So hopefully we see that happening.
I mean, AXBT is calling Farcoin, you know,
I think we're in for a surprise.
let's go to today's topics because I think we have some fun stuff to discuss
and we don't have a code yet.
We'll have a quarter of the second for y'all.
What would be the price if it goes to $7 billion?
Guys, we made the math very easy for you.
The comments today are great.
The comments are hilarious.
Let's go to Tyler's Top 100.
Folks, crypto majors, Barry Green here this morning.
Bitcoin was leading the way.
Actually, Solana now leading up 4% here at morning. Bitcoin was leading the way. Actually, Solana now leading up
4% here at 144 Bitcoin, breaking 90K, 90,300. Some of the top moving alts on the day were
Cass, Paul, previously Matic, and STX leading alts, of course, along with Fartcoin. We'll get
to that in a minute. Those Bitcoin ETFs, like I just mentioned, they saw $381 million in net inflows on the day.
That is their highest daily total since January 31st.
UPEXI, their stock jumped 335% yesterday
after they announced plans to use $90 million
to build a Solana corporate treasury.
So maybe they've been buying here this morning.
The SEC new chair, Paul Atkins,
was officially confirmed yesterday.
Also, he faces 72 crypto-related ETFs awaiting approval decisions. So he's got his work cut out
for him. In other news, Deutsche Bank and Standard Chartered are looking to grow their crypto
operations in the US. And the Wall Street Journal reporting Circle, Coinbase, BitGo,
and a few other firms are looking to apply for bank charters.
So we're seeing more crossover here between native crypto platforms and banks.
Breaking news before the show, Trump Media has finalized their partnership with Crypto.com to launch those ETFs.
In token airdrop and protocol news, OpenSea, they launched one-click wallet swapping for users switching between chains.
They're continuing to ship over there.
Kaido announced incoming changes to protect integrity on their project leaderboards.
The multiplier founder said, hey, we're returning those pre-sale funds.
No longer needed. We're making enough money.
We don't need your pre-sale funds.
Still plan to execute the airdrop.
Myriad, teasing V3, coming soon,
allowing deposits in dozens of cryptocurrencies,
and no more 3% fees on those sales.
MeBits announced their on-chain AI agents.
Think agents will go live today,
powered by this Think token.
And memes, somewhat of a quiet day.
Meme corn leaders are green.
was a big winner on Solana.
Jumping 60% to 9 million.
FMK, Poseidon were big winners
in the low caps. It does feel like
in those Solana trenches.
That was the roundup for today.
Speaking of Solana trenches, Tyler, we'll just start there.
I have a question for you guys. I mean, I asked a couple
of friends, but, you know,
he called Farcourt and trade pretty well. He's actually
nailed the shit out of it a few times.
He's calling for Popcat to come
I know Popcat did something pretty creative,
where it was a Popcat Farcourt
liquidity pool, which I thought that was pretty cool.
I wonder how nobody came up with that before.
Do you guys think that the strength of fartcoin, and honestly, Solana is holding pretty strong.
Do you guys think that this could cause a resurgence in some of the older, more established Solana memes,
do they just have so many sellers that forgot to sell the last top?
It will just continue to sell through it.
I think we can see a handful of winners.
I don't think there's enough capital,
enough of a wealth effect to have like a mass raising of all the ships by
but we're seeing more and more signs of folks returning, right? Like oranges, to have like a mass raising of all the ships by any means.
But we're seeing more and more signs of folks returning, right?
He's tweeting the trenches are on fire.
And he's tweeting that he's active.
They're talking about these PVP clan wars in the trenches right now.
So whether or not they're actively posting and streaming, there is more,
there are more folks back and they're buying.
And I think there are going to be more opportunities.
Like clearly like everyone needs to lower their expectations compared to what
January of 2025 was like,
Just throw those numbers and market caps and daily runners out the,
But we're seeing more activity.
And suddenly these legacy tokens still have some big communities behind them.
So I wouldn't be shocked to see a pop cap run up.
I wouldn't be shocked to see like Mog just out of nowhere pull a two-ups.
Well, Mog got the Binance Alpha post yesterday.
I don't know if you guys saw that.
It was during the show. Binance Alpha is going to I don't know if you guys saw that. It was during the show.
Binance Alpha is going to list
still lowest unit bias on Coinbase.
Wasn't delisted during that rundown.
And we saw some delistings on Coinbase
from like Giga, Turbo, and a few others.
I mean, obviously bias here.
I'm always going to love Mog.
But they have a real community.
Do you guys think Mog could run it back to like one and a half billion?
That's where it was in Miami.
I love how you just like you go to all the way to the end.
You know, it's like, yeah, well, when is Solana going to flip ETH?
When is Mog going to run to 1.5 billion?
I'm just trying to, I'm just listening.
Do you know how long it will take for Mog to run to 1.5 billion? I'm just trying to, I'm just listening. Do you know how long it will take for Mog to run to 1.5 billion?
We could be here for like two years, brother.
I'm here to entertain, you know?
I'm trying to get the right clip out of you, Mando.
I'm just saying what Tyler just said there is 100% it.
It's like, just go search.
Go have a look at Google search
trends on crypto right now and you'll probably
Kind of tells you the sort of environment that it's in.
And, you know, things can change, but, like,
How do you remove a coin?
and I search for meme coin.
God, it would now be even worse.
Was it just exactly Trump weekend?
So summer of last year when we were starting to get some runners on pump fun, let's say.
It's November 24th, kind of.
Which is like the peak of when things were dead.
Last August and last September.
Go look at the pump fund numbers.
Bitcoin hit 55k or 50k during that period, right?
That was when it was over.
Farcoin looks like the Farcoin chart, really, doesn't it?
But that is exactly, points for tyler saying
and maybe that's the odd winner here yeah but we're just not in that environment like people
when they say the trenches are back it's because it's pvp clan wars that that just
how what what what is the most this is like the most cringe thing
orangy's clan versus somebody else's clan. Everyone's trying to like rug each other for the few remaining dollars in the trenches.
Yeah, they all need, they need more watches and cars, you know?
Like, by the way, which is the most negative EV thing in crypto is that whole PV3 thing.
It looks like we didn't learn the first time.
That's why Farco is working is PVE.
Can you guys just tell me, Tyler, what the fuck is this whole clan war thing?
What are you talking about?
I saw Rasmur talking about it.
That was my signal here. Take it all
Let's go to Rasmur's page.
I'm personally not playing these new daily
game. I do like the least
Nate. The last one I really played was Housecoin
I like to play the ones that I can at least have a multi-week
I'll do more intraday flips
The market's not hot enough about that
Where's this clan war thing?
I think it was like over the weekend.
he was also talking about how the,
the second coin from the,
everything fallout was he,
he called it nine 11 for,
which was a massively overblown statements because like like 2,000 people had even bought that basis for every one coin.
So he just wanted to exaggerate.
But anyway, that's where I got it from.
Some of the folks are back on the timeline.
It's always the same thing.
And they're going to come out and say that they've been trading the whole time.
I'm sure some of them were, right?
It's like you get addicted to the game.
coined it nice. It's such a good way to judge
where you're on the cycle by who comes
going to do this or see this?
You've said that so many times.
that's where we are in the cycle,
This is why I get so bored sometimes.
to like i'm not paying attention i i go on twitter i post my shit i got my notifications on for ov
tyler mando rug radio myriad like i do my myriad thing i do my work i do my shit i follow my
homies i look at some traders i like and i just don't pay attention i guess it's one of the good
things about being in europe because i just find the whole thing so boring of people leaving and coming back and leaving and coming back.
Like, Wiz said that yesterday.
He's like, look at who's back now, bullposting.
But they weren't bullposting.
Like, I switched my name to Permable at 76K Bitcoin, okay?
It is interesting to think about where we are in the cycle right we've talked about how the
four-year cycle is kind of broken bottom of the second inning it does feel like that right like
we're not we're not going to experience like uh like i i don't feel like we're in the early stages
of the bear market of a two three two-year downturn ahead of the 2027 crypto bull cycle by any means.
It feels like we kind of speed,
it does feel like we kind of speed run these, right?
Like, are we on like more of a yearly cycle?
And I was like, how did last year play out?
Bitcoin had the ETF run in Q1.
Memes lagged. Memes pe had the ETF run in Q1. Memes lagged.
Memes peaked in March, April 2024.
We cooled off all summer.
Everyone sold in May, went away.
Heated up in November during the AI meta.
Bitcoin runs, peaks in January.
Trump coin, January 20th, down only for three months.
A little less than three months.
Bitcoin was 75k two weeks ago.
I've said that for a long time.
I don't believe in the four-year cycle.
I believe in it, though like we're back
four years later summer 21 summer 25
is it that like a eerie feeling
summer 25 are we we kind of
started rallying last year
and then we've everything got absolutely
decimated in 2025 well apart from
Yeah, but ETH is not relevant anymore, right?
There's always an L1 or L...
Like, there's always a coin that gets stuck behind.
The second biggest asset.
What I would say is that, like, this felt...
This did feel more like a...
Rather than this is a four-year cycle,
it felt like what Tyler just said, a shortened cycle.
And then we might see a shortened run-up again.
Like, that... If you just forget the four-year cycle, what we just saw looked shortened run-up again like that if you just forget the
four-year cycle what we just saw looked a lot like a short cycle right bitcoin goes uh all
coins go meme coins go and then everything just collapses i have a question i got a lot of
questions today i'm in a good mood man it. It's fucking beautiful out here. Me too.
You know, my Oura Ring, highly recommend a Wupor Oura Ring.
I've hit record low daytime stress in 13 months and record high daytime recovery in 13 months since I'm here.
months since i'm here just i would say you know the europe poor life is not so poor anyways my
Just, I would say, you know, the Europe poor life is not so poor.
question was um kobe back then said that 2024 was most likely to be similar to 2019
because you know there was a big spike or 28 i forgot what he compared it to
it was like a one-year run and then that the real cycle kind of starts in 26 i think a lot of people
have that as a thesis as well what do you guys think of that what if 24 was just the test one
year run and we had like the markets figuring itself out there's adoption in institutions
for bitcoin there's etfs blah blah blah bitcoin at the forefront of everything we have the sbr all
this shit like trump executive, executive orders, and a
20-year-old for the cycle to actually start
towards the end of this year and
It feels like there's a foundation being
Global adoption, infrastructure,
huge institutional players all coming in
kind of at the same time.
It's hard for me to think that we will
saying it means ETH's going to pump. I'm not saying it means
sold, but I think there will be other
And we probably just don't know what they are yet.
a world where Bitcoin runs to $150K,
As for when that's going to happen,
I was personally kind of hoping
I'm trying to go to Ibiza this summer.
You can still go to Ibiza, man.
It's an hour flight for me now.
trading at the desk eight hours a day.
You make a handful of trades
a month for the most part.
And you've done very well.
You can still enjoy Ibiza and do a good service.
That's good advice for us,
Like you've traded best when you have not traded.
I'm not going to talk about it right now.
I'm going to wait for it to play out,
but I did some crazy shit this weekend.
This could be another one of those trades. So we see we'll see we'll see but i agree it's it's it's when you trade a
handful of times you tend to perform better because you just act more rationally i feel
like my biggest losses was just like following up a trade and just losing like a million dollars
buying far corner like 2.5 you know stuff like that when
i already made a fucked out of money on the way up it's a classic though you weren't alone
harallabob was in there right there you me i mean there's a bunch of people like us i mean
in my like whiz harold another one of our friends like a few of us got really got really sniped on
that one uh so but hey we managed to buy the lows again,
we're going to bring a lucky winner on the show today.
You're going to win minimum 500 bucks.
There's not really a maximum.
I think you can all spell that.
yeah, it's insane. Wow, Bitcoin's at 90.7. Wow. The code today is, yeah, it's insane.
Wow, PopCat is fucking running.
The code today is F-A-R-T.
Anyways, Tyler, what else did you have for us?
There's quite a few other things.
So we're seeing more of these companies build these Solana reserves.
So the latest was this company, Upexi.
And for background, I think I looked at their market.
I want to say their market cap was like $14 million.
So they are a smaller company.
They somehow did a $100 million funding round.
around and they're going to use the funds just to establish the salon of treasury reserve
And they're going to use the funds
just to establish the Solana treasury reserve.
and then their stock ripped up about three and a half x yesterday let's see how it is today
it's down 10 today um like if you zoom out on this company like the five year chart like five
years ago they were trading a hundred dollars now they're trading at eight dollars so it's like
kind of a zombie company move.
I think GameStop kind of opened up this playbook to a degree.
So we're seeing more of this.
I don't know if it's the last ditch, Hail Mary,
or just a pivot for the company.
We saw the other company.
The other company I'm blanking on. It was a real estate firm.
They launched their salon treasury just a couple of weeks ago.
I think since their stock pumped and then it sold off as well.
So we'll see how long the market will value these.
But a growing trend, something to pay attention.
more just institutional capital piling in to some of the crypto majors.
So that was a story from yesterday.
The other big one was probably the story from the Wall Street Journal.
I didn't see it get talked about a ton.
So Circle, we talked about it yesterday.
They launched that new product to get into the remittances game,
Rival Visa and MasterCard.
But the Wall Street Journal also reported yesterday
that Circle and Coinbase are both pursuing U.S. national banking charters,
according to multiple reports.
These banking charters or licenses would allow them to hold customer funds
directly without any intermediaries.
They could access the Fed payment rails,
issue stable coins with more legitimacy,
reduce counterparty risk,
offer insured dollar accounts,
and potentially yield products.
So some big unlocks, I'd say more so for Coinbase than Circle,
certainly in line with Circle's business model,
pointing to just the crypto
friendly Trump administration as what is kind of enabling this move here.
So it's still early stages. It's pursuit.
They haven't been able to lock these down or get the approvals,
but this kind of gives you a sense of where they might be looking to go next.
And it just seems like we're going to continue to
muddy the lines between traditional banking and crypto.
It feels like they're becoming more and more integrated.
We've already got the writing on the wall that the banks are getting into crypto.
We just had Deutsche Bank and Standard Charter say they're going to grow their crypto operations.
And now on the flip side of that, you've got your more crypto natives like Coinbase who
want to start acting like banks.
So that's going to be another big, big trend.
I think it's one that will, at a macro level, increase legitimacy of crypto and open up
And probably that's going to be more impactful
But you can make the argument
and gets more folks in the door.
goes down the rabbit hole
and perhaps gets deeper into crypto.
of the big stories that I was looking at.
Okay. There's a lot of institution is i mean we've been seeing it forever but it's really the name of the game right now you know
you just mentioned this company that's putting bitcoin on their books i mean remember in paris
i told you guys i was on stage with like the french micro strategy it's called the blockchain
group literally so you've covered it both of you in your minutes. I was on stage with the guy, and he was just saying so many other companies are going to follow suit.
You look at the CAC 40, which is the French SPX, right?
I think, Mando, the French S&P, CAC 40 or something, I forget.
But you'd argue that if they're doing well, a bunch of other companies are just going to follow suit.
I guess that's the thesis, and it's happening in London.
It's going to happen in Canada.
It's going to happen in the New York Stock Exchange.
It's going to happen across the border.
All right, what else you got for us?
I think a lighter story is the 72 crypto ETFs
that are on Paul Atkins' desk.
Eric Balkunas, he tweeted about this yesterday.
So if you go to his Twitter page,
you'll be able to find the full list.
It should be only a handful of tweets down.
But yeah, Paul Atkins officially confirmed to be the SEC chair.
He's crypto friendly and they've got a backlog of these ETFs that are awaiting approval decisions.
So there's XRP, there's Litecoin, Solana, Doge.
There's a 2X Melania ETF in the mix.
Massive demand for that one.
Pingu in that pile as well.
So it does raise the question of like,
what is the impact of ETF approval in a more diluted crypto ETF world?
And we're seeing it yesterday.
The Bitcoin ETFs saw three month high ETFs were still negative outflows on the day.
Do you guys think realistically,
which ones do we think happened?
the Solana one feels like inevitable.
I think my hot take is I think they're all going to happen.
I feel like that's more likely to me.
Maybe if maybe a few of this,
like the wilder ones, just don't make it over the line.
I don't really know that we need a 2X Melania ETF.
So maybe some common sense, some baseline thresholds for market cap.
But I feel like it gets, it's a harder,
it's more work to try to justify individual tokens for ETF approval than just making more blanket approvals, right?
And if you're going more free markets,
I guess once they've determined they're not securities,
like what would be a reason not to,
why would you not approve some of these tokens?
I guess from protecting investors,
ETH investors probably needed some protecting,
I think there's still some questions
about what security and what isn't
I think the SEC hasn't quite
yet and not at that point
even their recent commentary sounds like
they're not even at that point yet
it's going to be some of these
might take a little bit longer I think XRP
and some of the meme coin ones
the other ones they might just be
XRP and Sol seem to be pretty much shoe-ins,
I'd say, by the end of 2025.
It's so crazy how XRP scammed itself
into the entire ecosystem
and just bought a fucking, a huge company.
Like, the whole thing's a fucking scam.
You know, like, Brad Garlinghouse
has never bought a single dollar of crypto
You know? And he's like, it's so crazy.
He's only probably bought crypto so he could afford gas fees to dump his XRP on people who think it's going to $500.
You know, we got an email this morning to get Charles Hodgkinson on the show, by the way.
It's going to be a fun one.
I said hell yeah. I got a message
should we get this person on? We got an email on the show.
I'm like, fuck yeah, we're going to get Charles Hodgkinson on the show.
Shout out to Jeeps. He's listening for sure.
I can't see my phone, but make it happen.
I can't see my phone but make it happen i'll be a fun one i can't wait um yeah i mean is this towel thing i mean you can see him like i know everyone talks about thought coin and ai coins but how's up 45 this week all right talk to us about your bags
let's go let's go look at the let me share the screen i it's already up, so it's kind of already happened. It's the biggest runner of the week, right?
Basically, Barry Silver went on a program, I think it was Raul Powell,
Raul Powell, sorry, and said, yeah, this is a really interesting one.
So I can always like Bitcoin, right?
It's meant to be this thing that's like a reward mechanism for AI training essentially
This is now easily the biggest a I coin easily
This thing has got fully diluted market cap of 7 billion now
Someone mentioned something in the comments
someone's saying that Tao has like no revenue
Zama in the comments says Tao has like no revenue
I mean very very different
I mean and let me explain why.
Tau is a fair launch, right?
Fair launch, Bitcoin tokenomics
is not meant to be about revenue.
Like, this is why people call it the Bitcoin of AI.
Like, it's not trying to make fee revenue.
It's meant to be a reward mechanism
for training better AI, essentially.
So if you're able to, like, different questions
or different resources are posed at the different subnets,
and the ones that do it the best are then rewarded with the token.
So it's just like a reward mechanism almost.
It's less of a, this is how much fee generation there is.
Some of these subnets are now able to make their own coins.
And to trade those, you do need Tau.
So the value goes back to Tau a little bit better.
But it's kind of got a different proposition.
Like it's not meant to be a dow token for any means like um
but i don't know like it's just something to pay attention to like that is yeah for a seven
billion dollar ftv coin now that puts it in the top 40 now wow um but like fully diluted it's probably higher than that let's check it out
did not take part in any of the AI
this is definitely now leading
pay attention to it, I think. This is definitely now leading... Pay attention.
I don't even know what that means.
I mean, how often do we talk about that as a coin? And we talk about AI coins all the fucking time.
It feels like it's in its own
there's like there's this other branch of crypto ai that's kind of in its own world and we don't
talk about as much i guess what i don't understand i feel like these are competing more with like
real world ai companies like maybe web 2 um and I just don't know what that competitive landscape
looks like. Like what other
focused on building training data
what are their market caps
I just need to spend more time researching it. I'll have the answers.
like that. It's more like instead of,
this is how you could like link this to an open source model and be like,
this is how we're going to improve a ton of different open source model,
rather than having a closed source model,
which has trained itself in-house.
it's, it's like a different
proposition even for like a blockchain.
I don't know how, it's more like Deepin.
whereas I think like a lot of the AI coins that we
have with like agent marketplace style coins
or you know you have to use a coin to like
spin up an agent, this sort of stuff. This is not,
this is completely different. It's more like we're going to reward up an agent, this sort of stuff. This is completely different.
It's more like we're going to reward you for doing certain things for the network.
So it's far more akin to all the other deep-in coins.
Yeah, there's a network here and there's some value in the network
and you're rewarded for putting up a phone mask.
there's a lot of upside if what you're saying is like going to happen.
Like we look at the chart,
like I know it's up 40% on the week,
but it is a bit of a fugazi.
Like you don't know what it is.
I would admit that it's also $7 billion now.
and I would listen to the interview with Barry Silberton.
I was like, oh, yeah, this might have a bit of a run here,
I'll definitely make sure I check that out.
So let's see what happens
arguing with people on the timeline right now about
It was dunked on a lot during the AI run
because it was like, oh, Tau's about to be
So this is the interview for those of you who are curious.
So we'll see what happens on that front.
I think we've gone around the block pretty well, right?
Should we give some money away?
It's good to eat. Let's do Lamb Chop
All right. Farts the code.
Farts the code. Make sure you put
it in. Make sure you sign up.
any day now. Yes, please!
any day. I'm not going to be on much next week,
so it's got to be fixed this week, brother.
I need it. You're taking another week off
Habibi, I have to go to Token 2049,
my favorite place in the world.
in the world. I fucking hate that
place. It actually pisses me off that I have to go.
I'm sorry to of being Lisbon.
We got Epic and Mog in the bio
We gotta wait for hours for this guy to come
Do you guys remember when When the Ovi's Blast era OSF's work. We've got to wait for hours for this guy to come. He's here.
Do you guys remember when the Ovi's blast era?
I'll never forget the day Ovi
sent 500 E to the blast bridge
Oh, yeah. He was deep. Or like to like the blast bridge or some shit like within eight months. Oh yeah, he was deep.
Or like a thousand E's or some shit.
He had to hear about blast just for a way to go.
Oh, it's a really good trade, you know.
It's kind of like our pups thing.
It's kind of like our pups thing.
You know, by the way, pups has caught zero bits.
Runes are not even catching a bit on this move up.
Anyways, what's up, Kibu?
Tyler, put your phone volume up.
Like, you're on the side of your phone.
Kibu? Hey, guys. Okay, I hear him On the side of your phone Kibu Hey guys I can hear him
But you can hear him right
Tyler you'll be running point here
So congratulations first and foremost
$500 already so that is for sure for sure for sure in your pocket congratulations
You made $500 second thing we're gonna play two games of land shop here
So let me put it right there click to start and here's how we're gonna do it
So we're going to actually tyler
is one of your knobs down the one with the usb on your roadcaster oh no no okay well i can't hear
kibu for some reason am I blind you can't
full screen okay you can't full screen Mando oh there it is it just appeared
boom alright so alright so we're gonna $250 bets and you're gonna get two bets
so Tyler so basically you're just gonna tell Tyler if you want to keep going or
not going is Kiba watching us in video?
Kibu, are you on the video?
All right, so let's get going.
Same question. Keep going? Yeah we keep going keep going yeah keep going yes same question keep going yes yeah let's go all right 300 hold on knock him out one more run one more run don't worry and by the way you still have that 500 back so you've made
500 bucks right let's go all right all alright you got 268 you want to keep going
297 you want to keep going
come on man fucking game man to the park. Oh, no. Boo.
You're still walking away with 500 bucks.
Well, look, Kibu, congratulations.
Like Tyler just told you,
you still walked away with $500.
You still made 500 bucks.
All right, boys. I'm excited
to see where we'll be tomorrow morning. I'm not
going to lie. I hope this trend
and that we keep going up. With that,
with that, we'll see you all tomorrow morning.
10 a.m. Eastern Standard Time for another episode of FOMO Hour
on ROG Radio. Let's go. Go. Thank you.