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Investing Off Planet with Copernic
Recorded: June 26, 2024 Duration: 1:04:24Space Recording
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Hi baby, are you there?
Yeah I'm here, no you didn't wake me up
Don't worry I was up, I'm really sleepy though
I was up all night, thanks to you
Yeah, I miss you so much
Show them all about the West
GMGM everybody
We are talking about investing off-planet with Copernic today
Assuming some sort of shortness on Copernicus there
But maybe, maybe wrong
Let's talk all about how you even go about investing off-planet
And what that has to do with Copernic, the marketplace for tokenized space assets
And I don't mean spaces as in what you're in currently
I mean space as in outside of this world, outside of this planet
Cannot wait to get into the conversation today
And we've got some incredible speakers who are going to help us get there
All part of the Copernic Space Ambassador
Or Copernic Space Project themselves
We've got PlayerX who is the ambassador, celebrity, token creator
888, inner artist, digital artist as well
Love a bit of digital art
We already have Copernic Space here
The marketplace for tokenized space assets and ventures that I mentioned earlier
We have Lady Rocket Eva Blaisdell
I hope that is the right pronunciation
But you can definitely give me some heat if it was wrong
Space entrepreneur, philanthropist, co-founder of Copernic Space
Space, Spaceables?
Ooh, Spaceables, I like that, I like that name
Took me a second to read it, but love it
And we also have Grant, the CEO and co-founder of Copernic Space
Previous co-founder of CoinFirm
Underscore IO, which was acquired
I really, really can't wait to get into this today
I think it's going to be an absolutely incredible show
How is everyone doing?
Grant, I'll throw over to you first as a CEO
I'm going to go over to the big title
How are you doing?
Are you looking forward to today's show?
Thanks, thank you
And thanks for the energy, the invite
Looking forward to our, you know, further work together
Once again, hello to everybody
Lady Rocket, you're making loads of noise
It's my rocket getting ready to lift off
But I will be muting myself
Great introduction
Back to you, Grant
So, hi everyone
I'm Grant Blaisdell
You'll notice Lady Rocket has a similar last name
That's because this company is a three-generation-long family legacy behind it
We'll get into that
But yes, once again, I'm CEO and co-founder of Copernic Space
We're the premier and pioneering platform and marketplace
That's tokenizing real-world space assets and investments
And democratizing access to them through our marketplaces on our platform
And we can go into further details like that
But we've been on the market for almost four years now
Really setting the industry standards on how to tokenize these varieties of space assets
Already successfully completing commercial sales and events around it
And a lot of this is culminating
A lot of this years of hard work is culminating with our own moon mission
This year, which I already pinned an article at the top
You can read more about that
Where we're sending and tokenizing around 2,000 digital assets on the lunar surface
Which can then be listed and traded on our marketplace in Q4 this year
Because the launch currently is scheduled for October on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket out of Cape Canaveral
I'll stop it there and let the host take back over
And I'm sure he'll want to introduce Lady Rocket as well
Definitely, definitely will do that
And wow, that is wild
So just before we go over to Lady Rocket
I'm getting this right
That the idea is that you're sending these assets into space
Because of the, you know, basically how cool that will be
Like to be able not only to say that you have some really crazy digital assets available
But these things have been to space, people
Like these things have actually been to space
Is that part of the sort of value proposition of Copernic?
Yeah, well just as, because you're asking kind of a question
That introduces into the macro wider need and opportunity
Which is, space is already a 500 billion dollar market
It has thousands of new companies on one end
It has millions of individuals, companies, investors, organizations
That are looking to access this market
But there's no market actually built
The market is so young and immature
Even though it's massively, you know, it's a massive market
If you talk about 500 billion dollars being an immature market
But no one's built what I call the economic infrastructure
Let alone how the marketplace would work in the digital economy
For this new space economy
So what we're doing, you know, with our moon mission
And these sort of things is
We're proving the standard and the wider commercial viability
Of space assets
Some of these opportunities are
Yeah, we're sending things to space
In this case, literally to the moon
But the big thing is not just democratizing access to sending it
But it's utilizing a system, a standard and blockchain
In this case
To tokenize and verify ownership of those assets
As what we call real world space assets
And then create the marketplace for them
So for us, whether, you know, it's payload on a SpaceX rocket
Or it's satellite imagery
You know, these are all different space assets
That need a standard and a marketplace for it
But once again, we'll get into that more
So keep it going
But yes, we're sending and tokenizing assets in space
On the moon, literally
And this is just one of many opportunities we've already have
And we'll have more next year
Which we'll talk about later
But we are also reinventing what assets are
Because it's incredible things that Copernic Space did
And this is why we are also so excited
To be a part of your initiative
And recognizing player for initiating the project
Our space assets is nothing that one would naturally expect
And has everything to do with you
Has to do also with empowering ordinals
To develop new functionalities
We are sending art, music, fashion, historical documents
We just announced an initiative to sponsor
Sending digital Doge Moon Wallet to the moon
Embracing a Doge tradition
And helping Elon Musk fulfill his promise
To the Doge that is going to go to the moon
We have engaged brands
We have engaged philanthropists
We are sending incredible collection of NFTs
We are sending images of the players
Vegetals, tokens
Everything, nothing boring
Formula One, MoonPank
Barbie
So we are reinventing
This is why it has such a connection
To what you are building
Because we are bringing to space
Based on what Grant and Copernic Space built
And I work very closely with Grant
And our entire community
Which is reinventing the image of space
Which is now confined to the traditional
NASA-driven, rocket-driven, satellite-driven image
We are opening it up to what is most beautiful about humanity
And something that I just want to conclude
My contribution to this very important discussion
Is that as a Lady Rocket Foundation
We are adding philanthropy for profit
Which means our NFTs coin will be embedded
Woods, was that you?
Did you just mute everyone?
Sorry people, I think we had a bit of an X issue there
Lady Rocket, keep going
Yes, I have some problems
Because I am in motion
But anyway, I want to just make a point
That this is a pivotal time
For all of us to take ownership
Of what space is supposed to be
In our lives, the lives of our kids
And let's include philanthropy
Which is using cryptocurrency
Which is using Doge
Which is using Ordinals
Which is using coming up Lady Rocket
Mooncat NFTs and tokens
And I am highlighting here
Charlie is with us
Who can talk about it more
Sarah
So we are contributing
Incredible community of engaged people
I look at our audience
And we have incredible amount
Of passport holders
Which is the first ever
Organized, registered on the blockchain
Through Copering Space
Live community
Web3 community
Which is going to the moon
Equipped with the business model
And the ability to
So thank you so much
And I will
I will stop here
And I will be in and out
Because I am in the transition
To get to Cybertruck
Of SpaceX
For showing some incredible things
At 11 o'clock
So thank you for having us
I am delighted
Looking forward to innovation
And putting Copernic Rocket
Into your metaverse
This is spectacular
Thank you
I love it
I am not jealous at all
That you are just about to hop into
A Cybertruck
Haven't had a chance
To get in one of those yet
They are not a big fan in Europe
No matter how much I protest
Sarah, I can see your hand raised
Welcome to the stage
What's your take on all of this
That's been said so far?
Hey Jack
I love hearing your voice
I miss you
It's so wonderful to see you
And thank you
Metropolis
Metropolis
I should say
For hosting such a great space
I'm actually a passport holder
I own many
I own quite a few ambassadors
And a citizen
Or two or four
And one of the reasons
And I'm not
This is not to like
Pump a bag or shell
Because I've never sold an NFT
So I hope that that will
You know
Clear the air a little bit
But in the cargo that I sent
With Copernic
It included every blockchain
And it included all the white papers
To all the blockchains
It included almost every project
That was in my wallet
They're all up there also
There's a unique opportunity
To set precedence
Not just for us here on Earth
But for an entire humanity
Because from space
When you're looking back down on Earth
There's no cultures
There's no languages
There's no borders
There's just humans
Doing awesome things
And one of the things
That I think is profound
That sometimes gets lost
In the shuffle
In these conversations
Is how vital
Blockchain technology is
In terms of provenance
And truth
And validation
And verification
And sometimes we can't do that
On terra firma
You have to do it off-world
In order to set the precedent
For the future dwellers
And so
You know
The things that
When I was given the opportunity
To send something
Originally Grant
Was so generous
And so gracious
He included our novella
From Sketchy Labs
And I thought
I would only get one bite
At the apple
Just one
And I thought
Okay
How can I help
As many people as possible
If I can send
Just one thing
I think there's a
Seduction
In wanting to send
Your own personal stuff
For posterity
But I really believed
So heavily
In Web 3
And the digital overlay
And how many people
It's just connected
And so
I sent the novella
Because
There was like 500 of us
That wrote that book
The Hashlips
Art generator
Was included
And I knew that
85% of all
NFT projects
Used his
Generator
His open source code
And so I thought
If I send this
It means it opens
The door
For all of us
Because even if you
Miss the window
Of opportunity
You didn't miss
The opportunity
To take part
In a really awesome
Ecosystem
And find your niche
Somewhere
That hook
That tether
To something far
Bigger than ourselves
And so
I did get a second
Bite at the apple
And I was gifted
10 megabytes
Because of my
Passport holder
Status
I went to town
I saw
I sent
You know
Formulas for colors
I sent
The schematics
For tools
I sent the code
For 3D printers
As in anything
That humanity
Uses to build
Because I think
For all of us
That's what
Makes us
Our heartbeat
You know
Is the ability
To build something
Bigger than ourselves
And to help others
And so
I just wanted to
Put that out there
In the
In the ecosystem
While we're talking
Today
That this is far
Bigger
Than NFTs
It's far bigger
Than ordinals
It's far bigger
Than digital art
Or AI
It's proof of human
And I think
It's really
Really wonderful
That you're hosting
Today
So you go on
To greatness
Jack
I couldn't be
More proud
Of you either
Just seeing you
In that position
And hearing your voice
It just makes me
Smile ear to ear
You're such a good
Good soul
So I'll go back
Down to listening
But I just wanted
To tell you
There are other
People here
That are doing
Some interesting
Things behind the scenes
And that each
And every listener
Today has a
Unique opportunity
To be a part of
Space
So there it is
Thank you so much
Sarah
That was a
Love the kind words
But also love
Hearing you talk
That was like
Poetry emotion
Right there people
That
Yeah
That's more than
Just skill
That's kind of wild
I could clip
That whole bit
And probably submit
That to some sort
Of poetry
Foundation
But anyway
As we keep talking
Let's keep
Going through
Who Copernic Space
Actually are
Like who is behind it
Why it exists
We definitely got
Some color there
Initially
Around the idea
Of you know
We're not just
Talking assets
In space
We're talking about
A marketplace
That makes these
Things super accessible
Can we get
Another short
TLDR
On the team
Behind it
And you know
Why that team
Has come together
Sure
Since this is
A three generation
Long thing
Maybe we'll ask
The second generation
So my mother
Lady Rocket
To take it
And then I'll
Tell you kind of
My background
And how all this
Came about
Lady Rocket
You want to go first
Well yes
Thank you Grant
And nothing could
Happen without
Grant's dedication
And ability
To sometimes
Instinctly
Pretty much
By DNA
Deded to him
By his grandfather
Make very
Unprecedented
Space and space
Business decisions
That there is no
Precedence for
So this is why
We appreciate
You inviting us
To speak
Because what we
Are contributing
To this discussion
Is completely
Different approach
To space
And I appreciate
What you
Emphasize in the title
Investing off
Planet
With Copernic
Space
Thank you
This is a
Brilliant
Brilliant title
And Grant's
Ability
To deed
His experience
Not only
Through generation
Of space
Family
But also
His 10 years
Experience
In blocking
Let me introduce
My own story
You introduce yourself
Okay
My background
Is fast tracking
To my life
In the United States
My first
Mission Impossible
Was something
Very similar
To when you
See Tom Cruise
Hanging by
One rope
Attached to the
Helicopter
Flying in the air
This was me
Several years ago
When I got
Boeing
As my account
To win
And get
The biggest
Business out of
Boeing
On behalf
Of Hewlett-Packard
I did that
And I was
Catapulted
To a significant
Position
Directly in
Silicon Valley
Working
Working with the
Leadership and
CEO of
Hewlett-Packard
Also David
Packard
Was still
Around
And Paul
Ely and I
Later
Helped
Groom
One of the
Biggest
Successes
Silicon Valley
Of Silicon Valley
Startup
Converture
Technologies
Fast forward
Moved to
Los Angeles
Still with
The space
Industry
Arrival of
Grant
In my
Life
Fast
Tracking
I had this
Executive
Position
With a
Swiss
Financial
Giant
Swissery
Wall Street
Interacted
With
Steve Jobs
Next
Workstation
Because I
Was always
Attracting
And I
Was always
Attracted
To bring
Technology
In frontiers
That no
Touched
Before
Steve Jobs
Had this
Interlude
Of creating
A big
Workstation
Ultimately
Left
For Apple
And this
Is why
Bloomberg
Terminal
Is working
I was
Then
Invited
President
Valenza
Later
Also
Interacted
With
President
Bush
Help
Bring
Technology
Capital
A new
Frontier
Europe
Which
Poland
And all
Countries
That
Were
Liberated
When the
Berlin Wall
Came
Down
Bottom
Line
Spent
About
Seven
Years
As a
General
Manager
Take
Prisoners
American
Corporation
That
Just
Took
Over
Worldwide
Marketplace
Called
Compact
Want
Mention
That
Grant
Visited
Munich
Couple
Month
Meet
With
Former
Boss
Former
Boss
Compact
Sending
Multi-million
Dollar
Collection
With
Rest
Moon
Started
Copernic
Space
Imagination
Heart
When
Vandenberg
Space
Force Base
Rockets
Sometimes
Half
Empty
Sometimes
Full
Taking
Space
United
Large
Alliance
Said
Wouldn't
Wonderful
People
Could
Part
Participate
Financial
Benefits
Also
Transform
Rockets
From
Very
Solo
Very
Aloof
Performance
Into
Something
That
Idea
Copernic
Space
Born
Pretty
Much
Standing
Field
Watching
SpaceX
Taking
About
2016
Knew
That
Blockchain
Will
Solution
Blockchain
Wasn't
Strong
Enough
2017
Carry
Development
World
Even
Worldwide
Intergalactic
Financial
Platform
That
Copernic
Space
Grant
Joined
2020
Gave
Expertise
Knowledge
Harness
Benefits
Blockchain
Mitigate
Weaknesses
Innovate
Entire
Economic
Investment
System
That
Indeed
Allow
Invest
Planet
This
Beautiful
Beautiful
Subject
Role
Lady
Rocket
Step
Outside
Space
Industry
Forceful
Nice
Ambassador
Engaging
Brands
Artists
Non-Space
Community
Non-Web
Three
Community
Because
Strong
Belief
That
Have
Bring
Financial
Power
Organization
Power
From
Three
Jolt
Growth
Beyond
Self-contained
Also
Very
Proud
Collector
NFTs
Working
Coin
Coin
Philanthropy
That
Involves
Kids
Education
Inspiration
Fashion
And I
Angeles
Have
Style
Going
Attention
Carpet
Approach
Space
Entertainment
Music
Collaboration
With
Incredible
Copernic
Space
Community
Space
Community
Have
Many
Them
Present
Here
Want
Acknowledge
Them
Ultimate
Space
Asset
That
About
Thank
Letting
Audience
Thank
Hosting
Back
Incredible
Love
Hearing
Passion
Love
Honestly
Love
Family
Dynamic
Well
It's
Great
That
Know
Just
Many
Flowers
Grant
He's
Like
Tell
About
Your
Story
Which
Those
Fascinating
Have
Head
Date
Like
That
Incredible
Inspiring
Keep
This
Let's
Throw
Over
Grant
Yeah
Thanks
That
Know
Talk
About
Background
Track
Record
Little
More
Because
She's
Doing
Much
That's
Such
Vision
That
Sometimes
That
Kind
Crowds
Over
Legitimacy
That
Stands
Behind
That
Right
Thanks
That
Personally
Well
Mother's
I've
Been
Blessed
Able
Know
Exposed
Confronted
With
Told
That
Achieve
These
Sort
Things
From
From
Pretty
Young
Originally
Come
Digital
Media
Music
Music
Longest
Most
Consistent
Thing
Life
Still
Have
Partner
Sizable
Music
Company
Here
Europe
With
Ticketing
That's
How I
Into
Blockchain
Over
Decade
Kind
Dinosaur
This
Market
From
Speculative
Sense
Fortunately
Unfortunately
Utilize
This
Technology
Build
Solutions
This
Brand
Market
Utilize
This
Technology
Like
Case
Copernic
Space
Build
Economic
Infrastructure
Foundation
Whole
Lucrative
Market
That
Will
Soon
Largest
Markets
Asset
Classes
Ever
Which
Space
Into
Because
Building
Digital
Media
Platforms
Really
Trying
Revolutionize
What
System
That
Should
Work
Content
Distributed
Monetized
That
Monetization
Redistributed
Back
Right
Because
Spotify
Exec
This
Know
Supposed
What
Tell
Supposed
They
Don't
Have
Answer
That
Right
That's
Entry
Into
Started
Playing
Around
Building
Some
Ventures
Space
Eventually
Co-founded
Chief
Marketing
Officer
Five
Years
CoinFirm
Which
Global
Leading
Platform
Data
Analytics
Crypto
Blockchain
Assets
Were
First
Really
That
First
Able
Analyze
Tokens
During
Have
Touched
Worked
With
Every
Type
Venture
Entity
Around
Crypto
From
Bank
Regulator
Crazy
Token
Major
Exchanges
People
Would
That
That
Sort
Track
Record
This
Market
Once
Again
Third
Generation
Space
This
Starts
With
Lady
Rocket's
Father
Built
Original
Space
Program
Poland
Earliest
Works
Know
Around
Concept
Democratizing
Access
Space
That's
Like
Roots
Seed
That
That
That
Stands
Behind
This
Company
Lady
Rocket
Eluded
Were
Investing
Ourselves
Around
Space
Market
About
Lady
Rocket
Foundation
Which
Make
Sure
Check
Lady
Rocket's
Page
Amazing
Work
We've
Already
Done
Around
World
There
With
That
Foundation
Realized
Back
What
Said
Earlier
This
Probably
Largest
Most
Important
Opportunities
Needs
Ever
Space
Economy
Market
Going
Built
Work
Provide
Much
Fuel
These
Amazing
Entrepreneurs
While
Providing
Benefits
Many
People
Earth
Possible
Because
Faster
Better
Fuel
Space
Commerce
Investments
Faster
More
Quicker
We'll
Create
Some
Most
Important
Solutions
Life
Earth
Future
Because
That's
What
Space
Market
Been
Doing
Years
Anyways
Those
Advancements
They
Just
Don't
Communicate
Very
Well
With
Private
Market
Happening
Know
Have
This
Once
Lifetime
Opportunity
Really
This
Right
That's
There's
Opportunity
Blockchain
Around
This
Well
Metaverses
Digital
Outlets
Experiences
Which
Happy
Into
Because
Actually
Have
History
Building
Concepts
Real
World
Space
Assets
Opportunities
Enter
Into
Metaverses
Digital
Worlds
We're
Just
Kind
Waiting
Metaverse
World
Kind
Mature
Little
Just
Like
Space
Market
Maturing
Right
Know
We're
Really
Pioneers
This
Sort
Stuff
It's
Built
Once
Again
Track
Record
Legacy
Hear
It's
Something
Care
About
Right
Think
It's
Extremely
Important
Know
It's
Easiest
Challenge
Ever
Build
Foundation
Such
Massive
Important
Complex
Market
Done
Macro
Economic
Solution
Space
Happen
It's
Opportunity
Blockchain
I've
Been
This
Market
Decade
I've
Seen
Pushed
Into
Every
Because
It's
Market
That
Does
Have
Economic
Infrastructure
Crypto
Blockchain
Economic
Infrastructure
Tech
Solutions
These
Other
Markets
Have
Legacy
Systems
Decades
That's
It's
Hard
Into
Space
Doesn't
Have
That
That's
Opportunity
This
Whole
Conversation
We're
Having
Like
Having
Conversation
About
Crypto
2012
It's
Time
Plant
Your
World
Space
Assets
Like
Moon
Mission
Assets
Satellite
Imagery
We're
Going
Doing
With
Investments
Here
Soon
Also
With
Passport
Know
Think
Redefine
Tied
Project
Platform
Works
Value
Provides
Holders
Outside
Hope
Here
Next
Week
Passion
Just
Absolutely
Pouring
This
Family
This
Organization
Really
Really
Enjoying
Conversation
Think
Look
We're
Minute
Mark
Already
Which
Just
Proves
Time
Flies
When
You're
Having
Also
Need
Remind
Listeners
Enjoying
Conversation
Today
Love
Hearing
About
Copernic
Then
Need
Following
These
Guys
Think
That's
Very
Important
Noties
Might
Well
Follow
Basically
Everyone
Stage
Part
Teams
Working
With
Project
Right
Also
Like
Some
Retweets
Show
Because
Sure
There's
More
People
Than
That
Here
Although
There's
A ton
People
Here
Thank
Joining
Interested
Subject
Today
Sorry
Sorry
I didn't
Mean to
Interrupt
Just
Want
Make
Quick
Suggestion
There's
Don't
Know
Talk
There's
Feral
Room
Feral
Part
Team
Focuses
Around
Know
There's
Also
Andrew
Here
Which
Major
Passport
Holder
Heavily
Space
Industry
There's
Yeah
Just
Name
Them
They
Throw
Request
Will
Bring
Them
Straight
Away
Awesome
Jack
Nice
Meet
Seem
Good
Host
Moderator
Much
Kind
Words
That
Means
Honestly
Means
Much
Know
It's
Bread
Butter
It's
What
Love
Know
Realistically
It's
Absolutely
Wild
That
Paid
Listen
Guys
Really
Part
These
Sort
Experiences
These
Conversations
Makes
Really
Appreciate
Gotta
Show
Paid
Host
Twitter
Spaces
Deserve
Deserve
Scheduling
Compensation
Coin
Moon
Stay
Touch
We'll
We'll
Yeah
Just
Definitely
Open
Love
Love
This
Conversation
Yeah
Yeah
Love
Flowers
People
Definitely
Look
Passion
Honestly
Guys
Eloquently
Able
Break
Down
This
Really
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