Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Oh Oh Thank you. Oh I am back, my people.
You know what I'm saying?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Give me one second while I kind of like, you know, like, like, like, just do my thing, do my thing, do my thing, do my thing, do my thing.
while I, you know, yeah, while I do my thing, while I do my thing,
I just want to say to Vitalik, happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you,
happy birthday, dear Vision, happy birthday to you.
Shit, yeah, that's right.
All right, it's been a while.
Oh yeah, I have to speak Chinese.
Um, yeah. It's been a long time. Yeah.
I think around like 10 days, 8 days, I didn't like stream.
Yeah, and everyone's like, what's wrong with Morrow?
I'm like, I'm not that important, guys, relax.
Just relax, I'm not that important.
I'm just one of the members.
It's been a while. I was thinking about a few days ago, but I really sorry. It's been late.
I was thinking about a few days ago,
I'm just so busy with a lot of things.
Some of my friends just came.
First of all, I just want to say
Happy Birthday to Vitalik.
Okay? Happy V-day uh v-shen
so i was watching this comedian just this comedian um he he was telling people how you say Happy New Year in China. 告诉所有的观众就是如何在中国是跟就是过年或者是对过年的时候是怎么跟别人打招呼的。
And usually, obviously, like around the world, everyone's like, Happy New Year, right?
Happy New Year, Happy New Year, you know, best of luck in 2026, you know, just that, that most of the world are, you know,
It's, what's that? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and in Chinese, it's, it's, it's, it's,大多数。 是,那个叫什么?
And in Chinese, it's actually not, it's not mainly Happy New Year's.
It's in China, it's like a,
When every, every New Year, that's what the people say.
And 恭喜发财 in China, in Chinese, it means hope you get rich.
And this is a talk show, the comedian said that, you know.
So every time, like every year, like during Chinese New Year,
Everyone's saying恭喜发财,恭喜发财.
So everyone's basically saying to each each everyone, you know, like
happy new year or like I hope you
get healthy, it's just no, it's like
so for Chinese people like Chinese new year's period or like, I hope you get healthy. You know, it's just no. It's like, hope you get rich. 恭喜发财,恭喜发财.
like Chinese New Year's period,
it's like a time where we kind of like recharge and just say to ourselves like,
okay, next year we're going to make money.
in celebration with Vitalik's birthday,
I also want to say to everyone, 恭喜发财, you know, hope celebration with Vitalik's birthday, I also want to say to everyone,
恭喜发财, you know, hope we get rich.
So that's one of the things that I want to say today.
Yeah, I've been away for a while.
First of all, my mom came.
My mom came to see me,妈来看我,所以有一段时间我一直在陪她。
因为, because for me, like I couldn't do it, because when I space,
就是我开直播的时候, I don't have something prepared in my head,
就是我不会提前准备好我今天要讲什么的, Have something prepared in my head. I won't prepare for something I want to talk about today.
I just opened it after I started.
I just want to speak to myself.
I want to speak to myself.
I want to speak to myself.
Of course, today is a very明显 day.
So obviously today is Vitalik's birthday.
So it's a lot easier for me to talk today. So obviously today is Vitalik's birthday.
So it's a lot easier for me to talk today.
Because it's a very obvious topic.
But usually, especially on a downtime when everyone's like,
You know, what happened to an official site?
So, yeah, so all that stuff.
Like, you know, this is life.
You know, life, sometimes in life, you know, you have to go through the ups and downs.
So, I just think that you have to be calm.
Sometimes you will be high, sometimes you will be low.
And now, we all are at a low time.
But low doesn't mean bad.
Low just means a process.
What is it called in Chinese?
So it just comes back up.
You know, buy a stock and buy a bitcoin are the same.
It's green, green, green, green, green, green, green, green.
So, so yeah, so I wasn't really in a mental state
because I was physically and mentally tired
for like a week or at least two weeks almost.
So I couldn't really get into the zone
in order for me to say what I can say with my heart,
So that's why I said, you know, I don't want to do any fake space, just blah, blah, blah.
Even though I'm always 99.9% blah, blah, blah.
But I don't want to have a heartless blah, blah, blah.
I need to have a good heart, blah, blah, blah.
So, yeah. Basically, sorry. I need to have a good heart So Yeah
Wait, why am I apologizing?
It's not like you're paying me
In the beginning of January
When everything was going up Bitcoin was was going up, and then Ethereum was going up, everything was going up, and everyone was like, yay!
New year, new year, new year!
And then in the middle of January, it's like, what's happening?
Everyone's like, oh, the ball season's not coming.
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I feel a little hope. I don't know if it's a season, but at least there's going to be a huge pump.
And everyone's talking about,
But it's going to, you know, slide.
It's going to dump a little bit more
And then maybe pump soon.
So, yeah, I mean, I hope so.
Wait, let me just get a drink.
So, yeah, a lot has happened in the last 10 days or a week since I didn't stream.
A lot of things happened.
First of all, our market cap is very fucking ugly.
And then it's actually, I haven't opened it in a couple of days or at least.
And I was just looking at it and I was like, wow.
And actually, you know what?
Like, yeah, I looked at it two days ago, two days ago, but mentally, physically and everything like I was so tired and I was about to tell my wife, you know, I was like, hey, do we want to buy a little more?
just a little bit just just just a little bit more it's like at three point i don't know today
the last time i looked at the market cap was like two days ago i think it was like at 3.3 million
just two days ago i saw the market market cap 3.3 million
and then i actually came up when i was just telling my wife i said hey然后我其实起来的时候我就是想告诉我老婆
比如说这就就一千块人民币对吧我一千那个什么两百块美金 You can consider it. For example, this is a thousand dollars.
You know, something like that.
It's like you're not going to get anything lower than this, I think.
Or at least, you know, yeah.
Actually, never say never.
But first of all, okay, let's just talk about happy thing.
Actually, like, first of all, for me, it's not a bad thing.
It's just part of the, I think everything is just part of the game.
You know, I think I'm just thinking about now,
330,000, or because I didn't open today and yesterday, but when I watched it a couple of days,
And I thought, oh, and I didn't get too excited.但是我两天前看的时候好像是330万还是什么然后我是觉得哦然后我也没慌
it's not like only mudang is doing this
everybody is like dumping
ok so i guess we have to all wait
就是也就是说所有的人都要在等 So I was like, okay, so I guess we have to all wait.
That's also saying that all people are waiting. Right.
And in this process, I also met some people.
TJ. I actually don't, I actually haven't seen you in my space ever. And you just asked to speak. So if you want to speak. Yeah. What's up, TJ?
Good morning, bro. up tj hey mario good morning good morning bro yeah i've been uh this is my first time being on your space but i just saw the the title on my timeline mundag it is happy uh v day and i was i just
decided to open and i remember i wanted to get some Mundeg ETH back in 2023, 2024, something like that.
But I probably got some, you know, it was a peak where there was a lot of creation of tokens like Doji, ETHS, Mundegg, you know, like a bunch of tokens from different
blockchain. So I don't know, you know, what's up with Mundegg ETH these days, but my guess is,
you know, everything is going down, even Bitcoin itself. So I just decided to open and just hear a few things from you.
I guess you are the creator of Moondag.
No, thanks for giving me that much love.
I actually am the host of the Moondang space and also every live related stuff.
It's actually a really good question that you asked, TJ.
Our start of our coin was in 2024, around the end of September.
It peaked around, I think it was November or something like that.
And then it started to drop and now it is where it is.
But I think the question that everyone,
it's not like what's going to happen,
but more so as what has happened.
So when I look at what happened last year with Mudang ETH, it's directly linked to Vitalik himself.
So that's why we put so much emphasis on Vitalik and today's his birthday.
So that's actually one of our main topics as well.
But if you go back and look at last year, you know, even during the Argentina's DEVCOM meeting, meeting conference, whatever you want to call it.
And last November, you know, he wore the Mudang shirt three times, you know.
So, you know, it's we're meme coins.
So it's not like, oh, yeah, we have something really big coming for sure.
Or, you know, some crazy things going to pump soon.
Like, you know, meme coins are always something that you have to have faith in, right?
Like, if I know something, or if I'm going to 100% believe something's going to happen, I believe it for sure.
But do I know it it i don't know
and i think we're directly related to what happened with shiba inu um back in 2020 you know we're like we believe we are the next shiba you know like 2020 vitalik wore shiba inu pants
the only you know meme related clothing he ever wore before Mudank was Shiba Inu pants.
And back in 2020, nobody, even worse than today's Mudank, nobody even cared about Shiba Inu.
And he wore the pants and everyone's like, what the hell does that mean?
And of course, everyone's like, yeah, whatever.
And then the market cap doesn't move.
And then suddenly, it became today's sheep.
So I think right now, we're going through the same period of time as Shiba.
Even especially the timeline of Shiba.
You can grok this yourself and um you know
there's going to be a lot of outsiders uh like including you tj i don't i don't consider you
as an outsider but a lot of people from the outside looking in who are not cto members
are going to have the same questions you know like um well you guys seem to be doing a lot of
good things but your market cap is shit.
Like, everyone is always saying that.
So, obviously, Vitalik doesn't support you.
I'm like, I don't think so.
You know, I don't really think so.
Like, I don't think our market cap is directly related to whether Vitalik is helping us or not.
Vitalik is helping us by, obviously, he wore the Mudang shirt, I think, what, like seven times last year, eight times in different occasions around the world.
And he even replied to us in Chinese, you know, because we have a lot of Chinese CTO members.
That's why I do my space, because I speak both Chinese and English.
So, yeah, I mean, like if you put one in one and one together like it just
equals two and that's why we have a lot of faith and we're not like some people we're like oh we're
waiting for vitalik's reply oh yeah come on guys let's go vital let's raid vitalik i mean he already
replied us i mean he's wearing our shirts so like we're like i think we're like 10 steps ahead of
every other meme coin out there because everyone else is at least on the ethereum blockchain you know everyone
is waiting for vitalik to reply them but for us it's like it's not only he's replying us he adopted
mudang and he's wearing the shirt like you know as if it's like his superman costume so so i mean now you you look at you don't look at us you look at
us plus what we've done as a community which we do a lot of uh charities i think we did more than
13 or 14 charities last year we already did one in january this year um and you know we try to
keep to do good do only good every day which uh once vitalik replied us
and one of our community members he said that do only good every day and so once when he replied
that to us like we've been doing that since like what 2024 so we're trying to be on track to do
what he wants us to represent as the ethereum blockchain not just pump and dumps
we're more like uh you know long-term you know project building community driven uh charity
real life helping um you know token that just tries to spread love across the world and hopefully you know with our faith in Vitalik you know he'll help
us or he already is helping us but I mean in terms of market cap or something
whatever I don't know obviously but yeah what do you think TJ yeah I do think
that you know some of these places are actually needed at these times, especially that, you know, like I don't want to cry wolf, but I really do believe that we are going onto the bear cycle right now. I believe the peak was probably last year, 2025. I'm speaking with respect to all crypto,
not just Mondego, Bitcoin, speaking for all crypto right now. I think we are coming down to the
bear cycle, the bear market. And I know sometimes we need to give ourselves reassurance,
but it's also good to be aware of what is to come.
And I also do believe, because I don't know,
could you please correct me if I'm wrong?
But I think Moondegg is more like an inscription, right?
Elongated Muskrat, you want to answer this
Because I know we have a lot of inscriptions
Moondegg was a part. Inscriptions like Dogi, we have ETHS,
we also have TRXI from Tron. We have, you know, as a 2023, 2024, like a lot of these
blockchain, they brought a lot of inscriptions where you can write JSON text to the blockchain.
And that's how most of these tokens came about.
So I think Moondag is part of it.
And if you go to check most of the inscription market, most of them are down,
especially for those that do the NFTs on the blockchain most of them are down
so I think it's just like a general trend right now it's not just a Moondag so I think it's
also like a reason to be hopeful that Moondag will also rise when every other token rise
maybe when Bitcoin started to rise Moondag will also rise when every other token rise maybe when bitcoin started
rise moondegg will also go up as well so it's just it's just a general thing right now not just
moondegg yeah and the thing is that like um you know ethereum is not really or at least
mean like tokens on ethereum is not like you know stuff on solana or nowadays, like, the BSC or whatever.
It's more like, you know, there's always that one.
You know, every, like, you're talking about bear market,
but, like, even in 2023, 4, you know, beginning of 24, like, Pepe,
you know, it was kind of, like, the downturn,
and then all of a sudden, Pepe came.
And then, like, you know, and so and so like but that's it you know and then even in 2024 it was uh nero uh and then and then 2025 like nothing and then
you know so there's it's not like oh there's going to be 10 or 15 maybe some of them will go to maybe
i don't know like 500 million or whatever but
i mean that one that goes to like you know a few billion or like 10 or 100 whatever um there's
always that one so um we're not trying to be one of those ones where we're like oh i hope we're
we're gonna be happy with 300 million like no because i've been building for eight months nine months and a lot
of the people listening right now have been building for at least 15 months you know so i
came in a little bit later um and so so yeah like we're not here just to be like yeah we went 10x
and then everyone's gonna be like oh yay you know we're more of like the we
want to be the next she but we want to be the the token that people will talk about in the 2028
2029 bull cycle you know four years from now where people are like hey what do you think is going to be the next mudang for this bull cycle? You know, like we have that kind of faith.
So, I mean, yeah, a lot of people come to our space
and we actually even usually we talked with a lot of other meme coins,
you know, on space and other platforms and also on HTX.
We always go there and talk together
and you know like people always say like oh you know you guys are blah blah blah blah blah blah
but i don't know like we we have this we our our strength is not based on how good
our our or how strong we are marketing our you know know, meme coin or how crazy these people are doing with the community.
It's how long we are able to, you know, maintain,
sustain our community, you know,
is what brings us so much, so long,
just brings us longevity.
So, yeah, I just, I do feel that we're a little bit different from
everyone else um and also on top of that like obviously vitalik is really supporting us
adopting mudang you know sending birthday uh wishes and he's donating money to the zoo
he's wearing the shirt he's replying us um so you know he's giving us a lot of hidden signs but like you said
like ethereum is not really pumping so it's not he can't he doesn't really want to pump us now
because if he pumps us now we maybe will just do 10x and then people will fut us
you know so we don't have momentum in the blockchain right now so yeah i that's why i
actually tell a lot of people i'm
like it's actually not a bad thing that like our market cap this is this low because if if our
market cap was at like 30 million right now like a lot of people will start to flood us and even
our community members will leave but we never really pumped super hard in the last year maybe a little bit in november when we pumped like
what 2x 3x you know which is nothing and then so you know um we we didn't we don't really have a
very strong wave right now and we've been going down for some time but i don't see it as a bad
thing i don't see it as a bad thing i see you know we're
still building everyone here you know like hey we have a three million market cap uh token and
there's like how many people are online right now you know with the mudang uh you know profile
a lot compared to you know a four three million you know and doing this token for 15 16 months so
we're really we don't know we're we're we're different man you mean like I'm still doing it
yeah joints yeah and I feel you know this is this is the time to you know like really know
the builders in this space this is this the time especially when the market is not going the way we really want right now this is when you you see the builders come up
you know making spaces speaking building uh but one more thing i was probably expecting to see
more chinese around because i remember when mundane came out out, I saw it on my timeline, a lot of Chinese were promoting it.
But it seems, yeah, so how come you're able to speak English so well and also speak Chinese?
I don't know, that's not supposed to be the question, but I was just surprised that you're
able to speak both very, very well.
And my next question is, I was expecting to see more Chinese here,
because I know they are really like the base of this community.
First question, I've lived in three countries around the world.
So lived in Japan, Canada, China. And every place that I go, I make friends with the local people.
So I don't stick to one type of culture.
I just make friends with everyone.
When I was living in Japan, my friends were Japanese.
When I was living in Canada, my friends were Canadian.
When I'm living in Chinaada my friends were canadian when i'm living in china
my friends are chinese so i just forced myself to just yeah learn it um so i speak it secondly um
yes you're right like um we have we still like, actually, we have at least half of us.
I think maybe some of their names are weird.
Like Felix and Xing Xing, CD, Mudang, CEO, Jackie, Yvonne, and obviously Huayue, the Chinese letters, the Laura.
All these people are Chinese.
I actually see them every time.
Yeah, I know them. So they people are Chinese. I actually see them every time. Yeah, I know them.
But yes, I agree with you.
The presence is not as strong as before.
And the reason for that is many reasons.
First of all, because I don't really want to blame it on anything outside.
But right now, a lot of people want to make quick money.
And I don't think it has to do with Mudank.
I think it just has to do with everyone buying everything on crypto-related stuff.
They hope they can make money.
BSC stuff or Solana stuff.
One day, they're saying something.
Next day, it's saying something next day you know it's
like uh 20x so a lot of those things happen around us you know and especially with you know
with the bsc stuff and the solana stuff like it's always in our face right because yeah it's obvious
so um and so they want to a lot of people want to make quick money.
And when they're making quick money, they lose money even quicker.
So by the time, obviously they hear about the people making the money.
But when they're doing it themselves, they actually lose money
because they either hold too long or they left too early and they're looking for the next coin.
So a lot of people do that in between Mudang.
And then actually what I hear is that a lot of people actually lost a lot of money and they don't want to hold on to mudang anymore and because they don't have the you need to have a really strong mental capacity to be able to you know to build a token for more
than a year you know what i mean like we've been like some of these like not some like at least
half of the people right now that we're that us on this space have been building for more than a year.
So imagine during that one year, along the line, they start to buy other meme coins that pump and dump, pump and dump, pump and dump, and then they lose everything.
Do you think they want to come back and send Raid?
Let's go. Let's go. We're going to be okay.
Just wait for another year.
So that's why people leave.
the Chinese culture, to me,
But I lived outside of China for more of my life.
So I kind of understand both worlds.
But a lot of Chinese, the culture is like, they want everything to be super fast and quick.
They want it right away, you know.
And so I think a lot of people they want to chase
that you know that that money pot and then they they missed out on it and then when they come back
home which is mudang they're like oh my god i'm not doing this and then they either quit or they
go do something else yeah yeah. That's my assumption.
Yeah. They lost patience for Mude.
Yeah. And one thing too, I feel,
because, you know, like in crypto space,
we tend to play with money, right?
It's all, if you look at it one day,
people think of it like gambling.
So when you see their friends make some quick cash,
you just want to make a good flip as quickly as possible.
And these days, people are now branding DJs as a new thing.
You have to be a DJ, right?
You have to hop in, hop there, you have to open up there hoping hoping up and make with cash so most liquidity are zapped out you know of this pace as quickly as possible yeah that's just you know what I feel too as quickly as
possible yeah yeah and and then they win once and then they chase the second one
and then they lose and then they double down and then they win once, and then they chase the second one, and then they lose, and then they double down,
And so that's why for me, I'm lucky.
I've been doing this for, what, eight months?
Like really regularly eight months.
I know I've been, like my wife is actually also in the community,
and she's been here since the very beginning,
but she's not that vocal as I am, and she's been here since the very beginning but she's
not that vocal as I am but she's also building but I have I'm really lucky
that I have my wife also in here because I only do mudang I don't touch
anything else I don't I don't buy anything else I don't really do much
research I just kind of look at the market cap
and people kind of tell me this.
And I'm like, wow, wow, wow.
But I don't buy anything.
And so I'm able to just have one thing in my mind
And then my wife, on the other hand,
she also doesn't play with meme coins anymore either.
Like it's like more than half a year
year now because we lost a lot of money in 2024 and we learned our lesson so we're both like okay
let's not let's not hurt our life as a you know real life with our kids and everything like let's
just do what we can do and we just kind of you know, just like we just invest in regular stuff like Bitcoin, Ethereum and all that stuff.
But we don't we don't touch much tokens like meme coins anymore.
And so that's why we're both able to kind of keep focus on just, you know, bit by bit.
She does her thing bit by bit, you know, like she's not chasing the 10x 100x and for me i'm just like
focused just one thing and that's this so i'm i guess i'm kind of lucky in that way because if i
didn't have my wife in supporting we each other for for this i think i would have probably gone
a little bit like what i was saying earlier about me maybe betting on some token, some meme coin, and then, you know, like losing all my money and stuff.
Like, that's why I really appreciate my wife being part of, you know, this.
Or actually, she brought me into this
so i guess she appreciates she should appreciate me
you know what i'm saying so wait so tj like what do you do
uh so yeah yeah yeah i'm really interested because i've been talking to you for now for a while and i actually i like i don't really yeah i'm not a very social even though i can i
host but i'm not i don't really look at a lot of people's profiles and stuff so can you kind
of introduce yourself to us oh okay so basically i've been around the crypto space since like 2017. i've had my own share
fresh wins and losses as well uh these days as you know just like you i've been observing
uh i've been around 20 20 70 2018 boom market the crash 2021 coming up with the bull market
the crash 2021 coming up with a bull market crash again.
the 2021 bull market was delayed because of the COVID 2020,
So I think the next one was around 2023,
I guess, 23, 24 was the next bull market.
So that was why when I came into this space,
I think we're coming back to the bear market again.
But basically what I've been doing, I've been, to be frank, I'm not really, you know, like a builder.
But that is not to say I don't know the tech itself, but I've not really had the time to really focus on building for crypto,
especially because I'm doing my PhD in engineering.
So these days I'm really busy, but I still find time to check CoinMarketCap, CoinGecko,
see what's happening, join spaces, see what people are talking about, go to YouTube,
see what's happening there, just to keep myself abreast of what is happening on the space.
As about 2023, 2024, I met some builders that were making some stuff for Solana.
I think Dogecoin also did some kind of tokens back there. I met some of them.
I collaborated with them.
But I was more of like someone that discusses.
I do come with space and try to give my own opinion on how things are going to work out.
Sometimes I'm wrong. sometimes I'm right. So that's just basically what I do.
So in summary, these days I've really been on the sidelines and I just try to see what's trending,
put a little cash in there, see if it goes up, see if I lose. Yeah, but I would consider myself knowledgeable about the crypto trend and market
because I've been here longer than most.
Yeah, so I think Umaru was doing something.
Yeah, maybe when he comes back.
How are you? Good morning. Good morning. Good afternoon, basically. Let me text you, Maro. okay so basically tj you were he doesn't he doesn't get you voice that's why he's getting
silence and he's coming back very soon so you saying you were on is space since 2020? Is that right?
I've been around since 2017.
At about a time, I was just lucky to get on crypto at about a time
because that was when the market was just about to get into the bull run.
So I got in just at the right time,
and that was what got me stuck onto crypto
I made good wins from crypto,
And then I thought it was a normal thing
because that was like my first time
coming to the financial market.
So I thought it was a good thing that you know we
can end from crypto but i didn't know as you know as a day that there's going to be a crash so 2019
the market took a nose it like like a nosedive 2019 2020 it was it was you know like a crash covet came i think bitcoin fell to maybe like
uh 3k 3.5 as a 2020 due to uh covet don't forget that about 2018 the peak was about 18k i think
about 18k 19k was the peak in 2018 if i. Then it fell to about three or five.