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Mythical Monday 010 ft. Linden’s Corner @johnwastaken + @grateful_ape
Recorded: Aug. 11, 2025 Duration: 1:17:30Space Recording
Short Summary
Mythical Games is set to launch the highly anticipated Pudgy Party, enhancing user engagement with innovative gameplay and collectible mechanics. As the community grows, players are actively participating in FIFA Rivals, showcasing the increasing traction and excitement around these Web3 projects.
Full Transcription
Thank you. I Thank you. Thank you. so Thank you. All right
Man what a jazzy what a jazzy little tune there
Jazzy little tune there Elon's picking it up there with the in-house sound for these X
spaces really excited about that also just excited that it's working I don't know anyone else but
I've noticed again we've got one of the best X space hosts in the house right here. There's been a little bit of a improvement. A little bit of an improvement
on spaces. I got rugged on a space this morning, panicked. You know, usually once the app dies,
you're toast, right? Not this case. Not this case. I'd logged back in and said, do you want
to rejoin the space? It sounds like there was like a little bit of a buffer.
We've gotten rugged here before on a mythical Monday. It's a rite of passage for any of the, the X spaces, right?
You gotta, you gotta get rugged once,
but it looks like there might be a rug buffer, which is pretty fun.
What a way to get going.
My name is Squiddy.
I'll be talking from the mythical games account.
Can't believe this is episode 10 of Mythical Mondays. Absolutely insane.
This is our community-led space. Get all the insights from Mythical Games.
Today is a special one because we've got our monthly episode of Linden's Corner.
That'll be happening at the top of the hour, which is really exciting. So it's 3 o'clock Eastern Time now. At 4 o'clock, we're going
to get John Linden, CEO of Mythical Games, to come in for his Linden's Corner.
Going to make some introductions first and foremost. None other, again, got to start off
with none other than my guy, Mr. Mutt Guru.
Mike K. Mike McFadden, a.k.a. the man with the custom pudgy with the beard.
The pudgy matches the face.
It might actually be the only red beard pudgy in existence.
So not the flex, you know, first thing on Monday.
Flex it. I mean, you got it.
You flaunt it, you know?
So, yeah, good to be here
brother i appreciate you uh the invite as always that is um that's just how it goes and you're you
know you know we don't need the invite anymore mike you're in you're my co-host brother there's
wouldn't want to be doing with anyone else this is this is you know it's a it's a giant we here. The default invite.
The co-host invite.
Just always out there, always on the table.
Bro, we got this.
I'm psyched to be here, man.
A lot to talk about.
Some great guests.
New community legend and business legend,
Lyndon, in here for his cozy corner.
Going to be a grand old time. Going Gonna be a grand old time.
Gonna be a grand old time.
What's up, everyone?
Got a shout out to the people coming through in the crowd.
Mike, respect.
I'm getting the NFL Rivals account in here.
We got FIFA in the house.
Diego has been making awesome Pudgy Party content.
Shout out to Diego.
Welcome. We got Don P in the house.
Don Pudgy looking slick. That's a heck of a character
Welcome to mythical Mondays blue blood
mythical legend
One of our NFL rivals coaches. What's up blue blood direct been making some killer content. Absolutely again, just
some of you some of you people out there are
Crushing the soft launch. It's pretty insane to see.
Just the combination of the really fun, enticing game
and the diehard fans of the Pudgy Penguins.
It's something special to check out.
Something special to see.
Teddy, I see you down there.
What is up, Teddy?
Awesome content creator.
Pipe, pipe, pipe, pipe, pipe.
What's up, Teddy?
Great to chat. I saw your message, pipe, pipe, pipe. What's up, Teddy? Great to chat.
I saw your message too.
We'll be chatting this week.
We got Carlo in the house, another legend,
doing some great things over with Bearish.
Great to see you down there.
Otter, good to see you.
Otter, are you Dr. Otter in FIFA Rivals?
I don't think so.
If so, you completely, you just kicked my butt the other day.
What's up, Kieran?
I see you down there.
Coyote Blues, welcome.
CZR, welcome.
Ape Whale, welcome.
Great to see the apes and the penguins coming in here.
My man, Tony, Mr. House.
Matty, what's going on?
Mo, how are you?
Oh, man, the homies are coming through.
What up, Seadog, Gigatan, Dev Dad.
Again, Mythical Mondays, we want to get to know the gamers, right? You're coming in and hanging
out with us, we got to shout you out because we appreciate you being here. Isles, Colossus,
The Colts, Smoke and Jay playing some great FIFA, Bald Z, The Custom, Isaiah, Grizz, Ram,
Audi, Monster, Buttermake, Anish, great to have you all here we've got again I got
to say what's up to our special guests just to link them in here for a second this community
legend so if you guys are joining us for the first time every week we're gonna highlight a
community legend I've been doing this for a little bit here this little web 3 journey one of the
things I get to do here for mythical Mondays is bring in some of some of my friends that are
doing some really cool stuff I've been a space host for some time but our
community legend this week is my personal favorite spaces host proud to
call him a friend honored that he lets me join his stage at all times again
there's a group of of us kind of like hosts.
It's just a good network.
I like to consider the Gaming Ape show and his Grateful Show,
almost cousin spaces.
None, the one, the only, Mr. Grateful Ape.
Yo, what's up, guys?
I'm just on the football stadium.
You know, playing FIFA Rivals is absolutely crazy.
You can't wait to talk to John and let's fucking go.
Oh, my God.
Fuck yeah.
And you can tell right away.
Oh, yeah.
Let it rip, dude.
Let it rip.
You know, we're being recorded.
We're done things.
But we value authenticity.
And you are who you are, baby.
You are who you are.
We're going to have some fun in this space.
Just like, hey, we're in the video game industry, right?
This is a fun industry. This is a fun space. And not only we're in the video game industry right this is a fun industry
this is a fun space and not only are we in the video game industry we are on the cutting edge
of what it is integrating blockchain technology with gaming giving owners letting us own more
than zero right any of these other traditional games right you're paying money you're doing
these in-app purchases you're not getting anything back besides the good times, which is great.
There's something for everyone.
But in games like these where there's collecting and everything,
and you're putting in the time and the grind,
if you're getting something that other people value and might want,
it's your right to be able to do with it what you want, man.
You're right to be able to do with it what you want.
So pumped to have you as part of this conversation.
How are you feeling so far, man?
You watching any, like, I know we're,
we got some,
some football going on.
Which football are you paying attention right now?
Some,
some footy or some NFL preseason action,
man.
I'm in Europe.
So damn,
I'm trying to learn how NFL works,
but still not the best.
But of course,
football with,
with played with feet.
Yeah.
I really like that.
We are,
I live in Czech Republic, so we are
huge football fans and
ice hockey fans, so man, like football
or soccer is like number one, number two
sport here, I think, so yeah.
Love it. And again,
we're grateful enough that you had
us on the Grateful Show for
the FIFA Vivals launch, which was a
blast. Curious how
you're doing there in the trenches.
Are you getting some games in?
Be honest.
Of course.
Yeah, I've been playing, man.
But Cristiano Ronaldo, he actually scored two goals on me today.
I don't know what happened, but, man, FC Grateful,
FC Football Club Grateful is killing it there,
and I'm having fun.
I have to say the game is great.
It's awesome, man.
I play almost daily, and I really enjoy it. And, yeah, man. I play almost daily and I really enjoy it.
And yeah, man, we got to be talking about it for sure.
But I love the game and I think it has a huge potential and I love that it's like Web3
games.
So really, really bullish, man.
It's going to be really fun.
If you're just joining us for the first time again, there's a little comment button in
the bottom right of our screen.
Go ahead and bookmark that space.
Hit that retweet button
drop a comment say gm bookmark it right you guys don't look at your bookmarks but it helps the
algorithm let's get more people in here again you're coming in here because you're enjoying
what we're doing with mythical games you're playing our games you're here for grateful
and we want to as many people to join us as possible So we got mythical games with the first comment direct second FIFA rivals with the third Diego trying to get one of those pudgy codes stay tuned
There's some alpha there stay tuned
Um, but we're gonna go ahead and give some updates first and foremost
On what's going on with mythical games games so the latest and greatest with the games
i'm going to start off with the nfl rivals aspect coming to a close for our final program in year
two people are going for their aiden hutchinson mythical chase very exciting before a huge
turnaround for year three this is the training camp program. And in this training camp,
the players are training for the regular season.
And NFL Rivals players are training for year three,
which is introducing a lot more fun gameplays.
Very excited for that.
So that's what's cooking right now.
We are in the middle of the hunt, right?
This is what the players and the Rivals community,
this is a six-week program, the players and the rivals community, you know, over this is a six
week program, the longest program of the year and accumulates with a fierce battle for one of the
best and most exciting players in the NFL, Mr. Aiden Hutchinson. So that's going to be very,
very fun. Next, I want to introduce an absolute legend in his own right back from a vacation,
Absolute legend in his own right back from a vacation pitbull's biggest fan
And my man mr. Ape antics
He is the community social guy with FIFA rivals absolutely crushing it
His work is perfect
And he's even a nicer human being
What's up brother? How are we and what he got for us? What's up, brother? How are we? And what do you got for us?
What's the latest and greatest on FIFA Rivals?
Thank you very much, sir.
First of all, happy to be back.
Feeling very refreshed after a week spent in the man cave.
So if anybody's been watching these socials,
got myself a very nice, shiny FIFA Rivals neon light.
So I think we'll have to break out the Twitch stream soon enough
and we'll start getting some live content out there, which I'm really excited about doing.
But yeah, a bit of a lowdown. Obviously, the Adidas season is coming to a close this Thursday.
So last chance to get all of the Adidas goodies in game before they are gone for good.
And then, yeah, we're excited to launch the fresh ink season.
So obviously, if anybody's been keeping an eye on the transfers,
grateful I'm sure you've been the same.
Any of those fresh recruits coming in, new sign-ins,
they will be looking to come into the game this Thursday.
So we're going to have a fresh set of players,
some new gear, kits, boots, balls, you name it.
And we'll probably obviously reveal all in Jeff Winton's pitch picks this week.
A little bit of a blog post to show users kind of like what's going to be coming in the game.
Some of those kind of chase cards and players, etc.
And yeah, like it's probably one of the biggest news things that we dropped last week.
I'm really excited for that to drop on Thursday.
So yeah, really pumped.
Who are some of the bigger time players here?
I want to let Grateful take a guess here.
If you've been following the transfer windows,
can we see if we can get a little player leak?
You got anything for us there, Ape Antics?
Or is this all kind of locked in here?
And what have you kind of noticed from the end of the Adidas season?
Just how do you think things are,
things are rocking here?
I've been loving collecting some of these,
some of these players.
Yeah,
a hundred percent.
We've got some of the bigger names that I've signed for a variety of teams,
probably some bigger ones,
mainly so in the Premier League.
So definitely keep your eyes out for those.
But yeah,
we'll probably be dropping those
in the next day or two
just kind of a little bit of a lowdown
on some of those top players and sign-ins
that you can be looking to get your hands on
so really excited about that
and obviously there's a few other things
cooking there in the background
we just had a patch update last week
pretty big one
so there's some nice juicy hour rewards as well
for your leagues in the daily rewards
so i'd be really excited to see that and everybody's been posting uh what they've been getting
in the packs on socials um the vibes are strong and discord um so definitely come and hang out
with us if you get the chance and uh yeah oh yeah nicely let's go i've been meaning to spend some
more time in the discord uh last will be able to get to it i've got one other one too as a community member when master one dude when master one i know you and me both mate um devs
are cranking i think we'll get that opened up um pretty soon hopefully but i know dates or et is
on that one just yet but uh yeah it's coming uh it's obviously a big one from the community and
everybody you know wants to wants to get up there, wants to climb the ranks a little bit more.
But you'll be the first to know it, mate.
So just watch out for the socials updates.
And like I said, kind of come and hang out in the Discord and vibe with us and you'll be the first to know.
Can't wait. Can't wait.
And we'll absolutely be doing so.
Appreciate that in-depth look at FIFA Rivals from Mr. Ape Antics himself.
Next up, again, we've got another game that's about to make its global launch.
It's full on and a soft launch right now.
Another great way to turn it back to my man, Mr. Mutt Guru.
Get a little pudgy party update.
A lot of things cooking.
What do you got for us, Penguin?
Let's go.
Let's go.
Hey, first, you know, I'm grinding out that FIFA too, by the way,
and it's hot and heavy up there towards the top of the ranks.
Emojis flying, reacts flying everywhere.
Keep your heads down, man.
I'm telling you.
I don't know how these guys have time to throw you so many emojis
and still score goals on your head.
I don't know how it happens.
Anyway, yeah, pududgy Party, man.
Mythical summer is nowhere near over, guys.
It's just heating up here.
Obviously, we had that NFL news coming in hot from Squiddy,
getting ready to post a FAQ blog for you, three, for NFL.
By the way, one last side note here, but P pre-reg is open it's hot we're coming hot
off the heels of comic-con some exclusive merch out there we got power pudgy in the wild officially
up on the mythical marketplace so just awesome stuff to see all around is amazing seeing the
content come in from the uh from the community around the globe
right now some places in soft launch able to to test out the game test the loads on the server
but seeing them post and seeing what's coming just here a short few weeks away guys it is close
i'm so excited the community is so excited um the pudgy penguins team really really doing it
up here uh great support from their team uh mythical just knocking it out of the park the
developers hard at work 24 7 guys literally 24 7 no rest for the wicked getting this uh game ready
for you guys here uh more information on the channels as we keep rolling
here stay tuned to play pudgy party on x i think that's going to be your uh best source of alpha
for dates for tips for tricks for more power pudgy pins more power pudgy codes i don't know
keep a lookout also keep a lookout on my guy uh dale's channel squitty's
channel and charlie's channel i think we're gonna do another round of power pudgy pins for the
people god that just rolled off the tongue that's a lot of peace for the people that's a lot of peas
mike that is that is a lot of peace that'll be. I'm so excited to have my pins on my person.
And we got the skins, man.
So cool.
We got to learn about some fun stories from your excursion out in San Diego for Comic-Con.
And there was another little excursion that happened recently.
Mr. Charlie.
Mr. Mythos Charlie in here. in here who again we've accomplished our goal
to get him to 100 followers next up's 200 let's get that 2x baby let's get that 2x do us a favor
follow mr charlie here he's got another little fancy penguin a little mythos penguin there too
for those of you who don't know charlie charlie why don't you
introduce yourself real quick yeah nice to meet everyone what's up community um i'm the cm community
manager over at enter the mythos so the web 3 side of things i'm getting an ambassador program
up and running pretty soon uh please stay tuned today actually because i'll let you guys know
here a little early we'll be launching that today.
So keep an eye out on the Enter the Mythos channel.
We'll be reposting that there.
But, yeah, just nice to meet everybody.
I'm happy to be here.
Sweet.
And you were just in Las Vegas.
I know, you know, what happens in Vegas stays on the timeline.
I get it.
But if you got a little something for us, tell us what the event was.
You know, you were rocking the booth.
You were there with the Polka Dot fam.
Can you give us a little insight on what that was like
and what some of the reaction was for people that walked by
when they saw FIFA rivals and they saw some of the mythical games coming about?
What was the pulse of the people there when they walked by
and they saw these IPs like FIFA and NFL
and saw what was cooking with mythical games?
Yeah, 100%, man. Yeah, Vegas was a time. But as you know, Mythical is the only one doing it
the way that Mythical is doing it in the Web3 gaming space. We have these massive IPs.
I had the iPads out. I had our trailer going. People saw a video game they immediately came over they saw fifa they saw nfl
they saw pudgy penguins they were obsessed man um yeah i just had a great time explaining how
we garnered such massive ips and approached it really from a game first angle and people were
loving the games pudgy party especially we got the little test play out for everybody.
They were loving it. I got a few ambassadors on board, a few influencers who were just obsessed with
the IP itself and then really loved the game.
So that was really awesome to showcase there.
But yeah, I had such a great time, met a lot of cool people and yeah,
built up the mythos community just a little more.
And that's what these events are great for, man,
just showing face and really being there to rep the company.
Speaking of the Mythos community,
tell us what you're working on when it comes to this new Mythos ambassador program
and pin a link up to the top too.
Because again, Mythos is the,
for those of you who don't even know what Mythos is, right? It's the token that's powering games like NFL Rivals, FIFA Rivals.
We're a layer of two teams.
For those of you who don't know, we're a parachain on Polkadot.
We're called Mythos.
We have our own token.
And all those transactions on our marketplace are all powered by it.
Whether you want to pay in credit card or
whatever currency you prefer, you're still transacting on chain through fiat. And yeah,
you have your own marketplace wallet built in as well to send myth to. Very seamless,
very web2 user friendly as well, just for people that want to own and have stake in the games
they're playing. So yeah. in terms of the program though yeah
we're looking for web3 enthusiasts content creators anyone who just likes playing our
games as well and maybe is a gamer at heart um yeah we'll have some incentives going there for
sure on a monthly basis you can win nfts some myth um yeah tons of good stuff you name it we'll be
implementing more stuff as the program rolls out
and we get feedback from you guys, but I'm really happy to launch it today. I put some
work into this with some amazing people and it's going to be good. So hit my line,
check out the Mythos community as well. If you haven't, community.mythos.foundation,
complete those getting started quests, and then we'll have a form for you guys to fill out if you want to become an ambassador and we'll take it from there love it and again great
to get these mythos updates we're going to keep getting charlie in here to let us know what's
going on with this program everything else all mythos and again just to continue educating
about mythos so very exciting stuff nicely done Charlie. I can see you doing this every week.
I don't know.
It feels good.
It does feel good, man.
It feels good, baby.
Thanks for having me.
Of course, man.
Also got to give a special shout out.
I see you down there, Casper.
Mr. Web3 Casper.
Fantastic tweeter.
CFO of Mythical Games.
Appreciate you.
Thank you, Charlie, for getting all that together
Community as we know
Squiddy makes everything go round
Community is everything
So just obviously having another voice
In the space here
Talking the sweet gospel
That is Mythical Games
Is going to be great
On to 200 followers Charlie
Let's go
Yes sir Next milestone let's hit it is going to be great. And yeah, on to 200 followers, Charlie. Let's go.
Yes, sir.
Next milestone.
Let's hit it.
All right.
So we're going to reset the space.
It's about that time to dive into our community legend here.
So guys, drop a comment. If you got a comment from Mr. Gratefully, drop it in there.
We're going to read through some of the community comments as well.
We've also got a fun little giveaway to do.
Someone who retweets and likes the space.
If you comment, you've got better odds as well.
But we've got 1,000 gems to give away in FIFA Rivals.
We've got 1,000 gems to give away in FIFA Rivals.
All we're going to need is your player ID.
So if you're chosen, that's how it'll work.
You'll tell us your player ID. And Mr you're chosen, that's how it'll work. You'll tell us your player ID
and Mr. Ape Antics
will take care of you. So shout out
to FIFA Rivals for providing
today's giveaway.
So comment, retweet,
like, show some love to
the Mythical Mondays. Show some love
to my man GratefulApe.
Reading some of the comments here below.
Awesome to see some community members that we've been seeing on the timeline.
Machiavelli from my 8 fam, what's going on?
We got Proof Guy, welcome.
The Smokin' Jay giving some FIFA Rivals clips.
Otter, what's going on?
And then who else is in the crowd? there's the homie kate what's up kate hope you are well congratulations again um carlo again ceo tim what's up ceo tim
brongus what's going on kieran hype abe whale tony mr house arc zombie rob great to see all of you Kieran, Hype, Abe Whale, Tony, Mr. House, Ark, Zombie Rob.
Great to see all of you in the crowd.
Oh, Toulos, one of our FIFA rivals coaches.
Great to see you out there.
Ry Glizzy, all of the other community members out there.
Appreciate seeing you and thanks for showing up and showing some love.
So swinging it back to my man, the man of the half hour,
my favorite X space, Mr. Grateful Ape.
What's up, Grateful Toogs?
Those who might not know who you are.
Again, a lot of people know who you are.
There's a lot of apes out there,
but for those in the Myth Toogs community,
want to tell us, again, say what's up.
Tell us a little bit about who you are and what you represent.
Then I'll tee you up on some easier stuff.
Oh you want me to play music? Oh yeah, you mentioned Blue Man, so I don't know if you want a song about Blue.
If you want to flex your hosting, bitch. There it is.
Damn Blue!
Bye guys, I play a few FIFA Rivals games right now during the spaces.
It was fun.
I won both of them.
So yeah, but the game's great.
I love the gameplay in the comments.
But who am I?
Oh, damn.
I joined Crypto in like late 2020, I would say.
I minted my ape.
And because I live in the middle of the Europe, I was like, damn, I'm missing my homies, right?
All over the world.
So I started hosting Grateful Show.
We hosted so many legends in the space.
We also hosted John, I think it was November 2022.
So almost three years ago, time flies.
So many amazing artists, builders, et cetera.
It's also a great tool to connect, learn with other people, right?
And have fun.
And that's what we want to do.
That's why I also love gaming.
And that's we also hosted John and other legends in the space,
because I think Web3 Gaming is 100% the future.
That makes so much sense, right?
So I create content. I also have my chocolate
brand using my ape IP and I'm having so much fun in the space let's go absolutely
love it and again we're hosting the space right here you're a pretty seasoned host
yourself I've said this before I'll say it again my favorites my favorite space
what how'd you get into doing the the spaces like what was the origin of the You're a pretty seasoned host yourself. I've said this before. I'll say it again. My favorite space.
How'd you get into doing the spaces?
What was the origin of The Grateful Show?
And tell us a little bit about your show that you've been doing.
A lot of episodes.
You're in like the over Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Just tell us a little bit more about The Grateful Show and how it's kind of grown into what it is and being one of the more prominent X spaces across of this beautiful thing we called X.
and being one of the more prominent X spaces across of this beautiful thing we called X?
We started February 2022.
It was just a coincidence.
We were just a group of friends and we were like,
hey, let's start space to chat with other people and to learn more about the space, right?
And we hosted once a week.
We had so much fun.
We talk about how to create NFT project and mental health and,
you know,
We talk a lot about,
about IP,
how to build in the space.
And it was all organic.
we didn't have any plans.
We just started and we kept doing it.
We are now on episode like 391.
And we've learned so much.
Like we've hosted so many great people.
I think like month or two months ago, we've had Gary Vee also on space, which was really dope.
And I think it's a great tool to actually stay in touch with the space and with other people and learn more and explore.
Because you feel the emotion from the spaces, right?
Like it's not like just a threat on X, right?
Like through spaces, I think you really can connect
with other people
and you can have fun.
You can enjoy being here
and you can learn about other people
from different countries.
And another benefit is that
because we've had so,
I think we had like seven
or 800 people on stage
through those years.
Like you have friends
all over the world.
So whenever you travel,
like you just say, hey, who's in LA?
And you will find so many DGNs or, hey, who's in Zurich, etc.
So it's amazing to network with other people for sure.
I love it.
So again, you say you believe in the concept of web through gaming.
What was your kind of origin story as a gamer, right?
What shaped you to be like, okay your kind of origin story as a gamer right what shaped you be like okay you know i'm a gamer what was that first thing where you're
thinking you know i need to just absolutely dominate at this or i need to grind what was
the what was the first proper grind there for you man i i'm i'm good in fifa rivals because i played
fifa 98 i think back in the day so So I've practiced for a while. I heard 98 directly translates.
The correlation between FIFA 98 and FIFA Rivals is uncanny.
I've been practicing for a long time.
But, man, I've been playing a lot of games when I was a kid, right?
Like, it was in the 90s, so the games were a little bit different.
But I always loved games because you have a community around and and you you can play sports i love nba of course right because
i'm a huge basketball fan so i play all nba games i played old games like diablo 2 uh fallout etc
etc and i love an age of empires too. And that's really weird because I bought my,
after like 15 years on Mac, I bought gaming PC so I can play more games.
And I started playing Age of Empires 2, man.
And it brought me back and I love the strategy
and I really have a great time, relax.
So yeah, I've been playing a lot actually.
Even I don't have that much time
because it's so much better than scrolling TikTok, Instagram.
And most of the people, they do that, right? Like they so much better than scrolling TikTok, Instagram. And
most of the people, they do that, right? Like they spend five hours a day on social media.
I rather play games for two hours a day and have fun.
Amen. Are you playing any other games? Like what else in the Web3 gaming ecosystem
is catching your attention?
is catching your attention?
Man, I'm playing the Gigaverse game.
I play it a lot.
I play daily.
I play other side, if you can call it play.
I play bathroom blitz, even though I suck at it.
How do you get the time?
Where do you get the time?
I don't sleep.
Yeah, okay.
No, that's the one, too.
That's definitely a...
That'll help out.
That'll expand the hours.
Man, because I really downloaded so many games on my PC.
Man, I have Heroes of Might and Magic 3.
I have Fallout 1 and 2 and so on and so on.
So I want to go through the old games,
but I want to start playing Cyberpunk soon.
So, man, it's packed.'s packed i love it i want to i want to swing it back to soccer again you're from
europe so naturally uh football is in your blood right what like you know i've been playing and
practicing fifa for a long time right the name brand fifa brand FIFA, again, just as a fan,
what's your favorite part of FIFA Rivals right now?
Is it the team building?
Is it the gameplay?
Because it's a different gameplay than any FIFA game
that's ever existed because it's mobile.
Just curious, just as a footy fan
and someone who's been familiar with the title for so long,
what you're most enjoying about it.
Just, yeah, it's a Mythical Monday,
so we've got to ask about it.
Man, I'm kind of begging you in the game
in terms of putting team together,
so definitely need to chat about putting winning team together,
but I actually love this style of game
when you use your finger to actually pass and score.
It's so much easier for me
than just having a virtual joystick and and try to play right
like i should i try to play nba on on my phone and it was very tough so i love this gameplay i i i
back in like a few years ago or maybe even more i played some kind of game it was much simpler than
than fifa rivals but it has similar gameplay with your finger that you just aim and i really enjoy
it and do you know why i love it because sometimes i have just like five minutes here five minutes there i don't have time to play like for
half an hour so i can just play one game have fun and move on right so i love these short games and
if you if you have more time you can play longer so i i really enjoy them and the game is i play
probably clash royale and fifa rivals are only two games that I play on my phone right now.
I love it.
No, dude, I feel the exact same way.
One, there's nothing better than just ripping something up or 90, right?
You get that perfect little angle.
And the game's all about, to anyone listening to, if you want my unsolicited advice, the game's all about angles.
The game is all about the angles you know it's pretty you know
should be able to pick up on that but that's that's the only thing i'll say and it's so fun
being able to send these guys on runs and just at the quick little times to try and make decisions
i i'm just having so much fun i am full-on addicted to this to this game and fifa rivals
and sometimes i'll just try and convince myself that, you know, it's full work here too.
You know, like, hey, they need me to be playing this game 24-7 too.
I'm not just doing it for myself.
I'm doing it for the greater society.
Right?
8-Bantics, that's kind of what the point is for us.
And I also want to just like, I want to tee it up to you and just let you guys chat.
I don't know, again,
the ins and outs of the player wise,
but I'm curious,
you know, grateful,
if you're of that hard,
poor levelness,
if you're tracking
all of the transfers type here
and like,
are these the type of things
that you're excited to see
translated into the game?
I'm not...
Oh, there was an echo. I'm not tracking there was an echo
I'm not tracking many trades to be honest
but I would love to
actually build a solid team
because I like to play football
or soccer more
like virtually than in the real life
and as I mentioned before we played so much
FIFA back in the day so
I would love to learn how to put up a great team
because damn that Cristiano Ronaldo today like I played in the day so yeah i would love to learn how to put up a great team because damn that cristiano ronaldo today like i played in morning and that mfr man he scored two goals within like
i don't know 20 seconds and i was i was i was done man i don't know how that happened so
can anyone send me cristiano ronaldo to my team is that possible wait till you play against
somebody like messi that's where uh that's where it kind of goes another notch.
Because Ronaldo is just one of the starter players at the moment.
So his stats are actually a little bit lower than a lot of the other guys.
But Messi, for example, he's one of the big guns.
And then obviously, Adidas season, you've got Mohamed Salah, Jules Bellingham.
So there's some some pretty
beastly characters in there so um you know ronaldo is a little bit of a stepping stone wait till you
wait till you get oh man i want that salah that's what i'm that's what i'm hunting there too
and also so the first type of like when do the first soul fragments come about right i just saw
i'm starting to hit the marketplace a couple of times ago
To kind of collect it and get someone like a like a messy
Yeah, well a lot of those items are like season specific as well
So once the season's over that's it you won't be seeing them in game again, but like you said it's good
If you keep an eye on the marketplace
People are obviously putting them up there if they they don't want them anymore or maybe they can't get all the pieces and therefore they just want to kind of get rid of some.
So, yeah, probably my best advice would be just to kind of keep an eye on the marketplace if you want any extras and get them that way.
I love it. So, yeah, so this one would be for the Sala.
I know that's one of the big guns for me
one of the big dogs for me so those are which type of competition do you get them in you come
in like the top certain amounts and there's ways that you can win these particular ones
yeah yeah correct so if you keep an eye on the events page um so i think it's like the far right
tab on the game and there's normally two to three events going at any one time
so there might be daily ones, there might be ones that roll over a few days
so if you click on one of the leaderboards there
and there's like a little rewards tab and you can kind of click in and see
like what rewards you can get for certain events that you do
so it's really cool and I think we'll obviously, you know,
we'll get some stuff out of the game eventually,
where we'll maybe have a bit of a schedule where you can kind of see what
events are coming up.
But yeah, right now,
just check out the events tab in game and you can kind of see which ones
maybe have just some packs involved,
or you might get some in-game currency.
And then there's some other,
maybe more high tier events where you'll get things like mythical fragments.
Love it.
Appreciate that rundown.
For me, I'm about hunting the emojis.
The emoji game, the emoji conversations in the game have become next level for me.
Sometimes I'm mean.
Sometimes I'm nice.
They give me all the options there with the emojis.
I just unlocked this little peach
peach emoji really excited to put that one to the test yeah i know exactly the one you mean
it's been a hot topic in the in the discord lately but yeah i think i kind of go back to
my days of playing like rocket league and stuff like that and it's like scarred me for life with
the the water save water save water save so I'm Definitely having some flashbacks to stuff like that
But you know with football comes the banter and I think the emojis are top level for stuff like that
So, um, yeah, if anybody's got some suggestions of ones they'd like to see in game as well
Please hit us up, but I really excited to see those kind of develop as the game does
Nothing like getting scored on to lose at the last second and then getting a little winky emoji you know really makes you feel alive it doesn't happen to me too much
because i barely lose but it happens it absolutely happens guys this is mythical monday episode 10
we've got the legendary grateful ape in the house as our community legend of the week.
Also one of my favorite hosts.
We're going to have Lyndon's Corner coming up at the top of the hour in about 20 minutes.
And I'm just going to pretty much just give over the controls for Grateful.
I'm going to set him up there to have a little 15-minute conversation with John because you guys get enough of me.
We get grateful for this type of space.
We're going to utilize him here.
We're going to put him to work.
We got to get our money's worth.
Right?
This man.
Oh, man.
This man charts.
We play in a lot, right?
With John.
We play FIFA rivals against each other live here.
I'm sure he'll kick your butt.
He would kick your butt.
Yeah.
Because I'm pretty sure he has a Messi.
I'm pretty sure he has a Messi.
But guys guys maybe quickly
you know because I see many
apes here they know me but you know you guys
might not know me so I want to quickly introduce
myself here I'll be honest with you
I'm kind of
retarded and I'm not sure how to put
a great team together actually so any
alpha on that like short alpha how to
put best team together and start winning
yeah I mean I can give my And they all found that like a short alpha, how to put best team together and start winning.
Yeah.
I mean, I can give my take on it.
And then I'm going to swing it to the Ape Antics as well.
Putting the best team together.
You want the guys with the highest ratings, right?
You're going to want to have to go through. And as you collect and you earn more players, you're going to get multiples of the players.
When you collect enough multiples of them, you're able to utilize them and level up your players while using cash
So that's one of the progressions to power them up
Once they get to level five you're able to transform them and turn them into NFTs, which is pretty cool
So it's a combination of grinding for resources choosing the right players and having enough of those resources
If you don't have enough of the duplicate players You're're able to use wild card points, which I've been
accumulating a lot. It becomes more expensive on the different levels. You've got your common,
your rare, your epic, your legendary. But again, you get enough rares, and you max out a rare
player that's going to be at the same level, if not more, than a legendary player that's going to be at the same level if not more than a legendary player
that's on level zero so there are a lot of ways to build and grow your team you could do it based
off of and there's going to be different ways and challenges that help you right so one of the
challenges for the season is win x amount of games with an all adidas team so for a hundred games i'm gonna try and win 100 matches sorry uh i don't i want to don't
want to speak a foul but for a hundred matches i had an all adidas team because i want to complete
these certain challenges to get additional rewards what am i missing here at bantix i was
gonna say that was absolute perfection if i'm being honest mate yeah i think um just exactly
what squiddy
said there uh we're actually putting together a little bit of a guide at the minute which i'm
pretty much buttoned up on a v1 um so i can swing that by your way grateful when we've got that live
but i'll kind of cover all of the basics so one of them is squad building basics we've got things
like player rarities and tiers and a little bit of a introduction to
contract points and explaining the system there there's also some updates coming on that soon so
keep your eyes peeled on that one and you know you've got things like kits boots balls and some
of those can affect various in-game actions so some of those are great to collect especially
during the adidas season as well it's nice nice
having a pair of f50 boots on a messi as well so that's definitely a recommendation if you ever get
up to the mythical tier um but yeah just kind of start low and and just get the grips with the
basics of the game uh obviously there's some really nice common players out there as well
that you can kind of use in the beginning stages to to rank up But as Squiddy was saying, as you kind of get up to some of the higher ranks,
that's where it gets a little bit trickier.
But obviously some of the players up there are just incredible.
Even this season, like Cristian Romero, Bernardo Silva,
and Buemo, who's just transferred to Manchester United.
So I think what's really cool is we've got all these players in the game
and they're big names
in the world sport of FIFA so
but yeah just drop me a DM or
happy to jump on your spaces as well sometime
and give you the lowdown on
on there oh yes
yes please
yeah I was on your spaces I think
it was maybe a couple of years ago and it was a basketball
themed one I just remember you doing
like a soundboard and I think it was a basketball themed one. And I just remember you doing like a soundboard.
And I think it was like Michael,
Michael Jordan or something like that.
You were using like his voice.
It was just absolutely crazy.
Oh shit,
man,
there was this one.
That's crazy.
I remember that.
Yeah.
Michael Jordan actually said it.
I'm one of the best basketball players that ever played a game.
So yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, happy to hit it up.
And who knows, maybe I'll have a Lionel Messi
set on board on next time.
That'll be nice to interview him.
Dude, that's perfect that you say so too.
You mentioned having John on a few years ago.
Tell us about that.
Like, bring us back to a time in history.
Like, where were we in that time?
Like, what was the board eight
floor what were you guys talking about was this one nfl rivals was just coming out was he making
kind of like the the lapse here for that like would love to hear more about it before he comes
in and i'm probably gonna ask the same thing to him and get his perspective after the top of the
hour yeah 100 it was before the launch of NFL Rivals.
And we talk a lot about Web3 Gaming, right?
Because I think it has evolved a lot.
And also our idea about how Web3 Gaming should look like, right?
Because I think John was probably one of the first guests
that actually mentioned that to have a successful game,
you don't want people to actually have something like
metamask inside a game right you want to have something very easy to use not your not that
the gamers need to know how to handle seed phrase and all that stuff and i think nfl arrivals is
exactly that game right like it's easy to play uh you you play on your phone you don't need to have
your own seed phrase etc so. So back in the day,
it sounds weird, but it was kind of like revolution for us because we all were in the mood that we
need to teach our friends how to actually store a seed phrase, how to set up the hardware wallet,
right? And now I'm 100% sure that no one want to do it, right? Like we have a group of people that
want to have self-custody. It's amazing. I'm one of them. But it's not realistic if you want to do it, right? Like, we have a group of people that want to have self-custody. It's amazing. I'm one of them. But it's not realistic if you want to have, like, a large game full of
players that they want to enjoy the game. And that was second thing, right? Like, the game should be
fun. Like, you shouldn't be grinding for, like, a token or something. It should be fun first. And I
think that's also 100% on point, right?
Because you can look at all the games
that were just like farming stuff.
And after the farming ended,
like the games basically ended too, right?
So those were a few very interesting points.
I was checking what we were talking about back in the day
and it was different space in 2022.
Like it's
it's just three years but it was really really different space so yeah any anything else we did
it you would like me to add no i just like whatever you like to add but it's pretty wild
too oh were we was the market were we going in a downswing or an upswing out of curiosity
Oh, were we going in a downswing or an upswing, out of curiosity?
I'm not 100% sure, but I can check.
I think it was November 2022.
I think we were...
Wasn't it just starting going lower?
It doesn't sound good.
Yeah, I think it was bad.
Yeah, it doesn't sound good.
But yeah, it's always interesting too. Let me check always interesting to eat price but that's the best time
for the building right and mythicals has been it's been kind of like locked in right and i share the
same belief with you right if there's a game and a token the token is irrelevant if the games aren't
fun right because you need to be able to do stuff with it. The fact that it's powering games with the IP as strong as NFL and as strong as FIFA, right? These real games, not all games,
not all web three games or blockchain games need to be fully on chain, right? There's a road for
that. There's an avenue for that. But when it comes to the tech, the technology behind it,
There's an avenue for that, but when it comes to the tech, the technology behind it, and
the concept of ownership within these ecosystems, you're going to need the blockchain technology.
And in most cases, again, like NFL rivals, FIFA rivals, if you're finding out about the
game through some traditional UA, you see an ad on Instagram, you click it, you buy
it, you like those little arrow-pointing games
and you get fed FIFA rivals,
you download it and play it. You can play
and have a good time and collect and have
the whole mobile gaming experience
without even knowing about the
back-end.
Which is...
You know what a Bitcoin price was
in November 2020?
I'm going to throw up.
16,800.
Like 1,600?
Yeah, 1,600.
Oh my gosh.
So it wasn't great, I would say.
It wasn't great.
Wait, 16?
Like in the teens?
In teens, yeah.
1,600, not 6,0.
Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah i'm gonna throw up i should sell my
car and buy more all right we've got grateful ape in the house bringing us back to 2022 when he had
mr john linden in the space we've got linden's corner coming up in 10 minutes fingers crossed, you know
You know who knows some you know, John's a very important man doing very important things
We had to push back the initial appearance
We usually like to do our Linden's Corner in the first 15 minutes of the space
cooperate with the guests but in web 3 and with Twitter spaces things change and
We deal with the punches that we get.
But that's going to be an absolute blast.
Being able to recreate that from 2022 to 2025, I'm excited to hear.
Again, two people that I just admire chop it up.
So that'll be fun to facilitate.
That's going to have a hard ending, though, at 4.15.
So that's in about 20 minutes.
Also, don't forget, we've got a giveaway going.
If you retweet, like the space, drop a comment.
Oh, someone says extra points for live on space wins.
We should start to do that.
I absolutely love that.
Rip some games in FIFA Rivals while you're listening to Mythical Mondays.
We can start to have some fun with that.
We're building this out.
We want to do
and accept any of these community ideas uh ape antics i kind of like that one too
uh most most wins posted during a mythical monday space maybe we could do something here
yeah for sure i think we'll have a lot more capability for stuff like that in game soon
as well because i know that the devs are cranking on things like tournaments and all that.
So I think,
you know,
we'll be able to do some really,
really cool stuff on like streams and that like proper PVP stuff where you can
like invite friends and things like that.
I know that the guys are,
you know,
working on a bunch of features there.
so yeah,
stay tuned, but you know, that on a bunch of features there. So, yeah, stay tuned.
But, you know, that capability will hopefully be with us soon.
And then we can kind of start to do a lot of these really sick, like, community livestream activations, like the ones you just said there.
Because I think that would be dope.
I love it.
We got Wen Eric posting his messy show off over there.
Good for you, Mr. When Eric.
That is an amazing, amazing, amazing item.
And I'm sure a lot of fun to play with.
Messy is going to be one of my goals at some point.
I'd love to find my way to work up to it.
Respect down there.
Part of the Polka Dot fam.
Always good to see.
It's been nice connecting with you down there, man.
You're making some great content. It's great to see
the Penguins out there. It's great to see the Apes out
there. We love
bringing the people together. Because we all
love games, right? We want to have fun.
We want to have some good times.
Woo!
Oh, man. Man, oh, man,
oh, man. Have you sold anything yet in FIFA Rivals? Grateful. Nah, never, man. Man, oh, man, oh, man. Have you sold anything yet in FIFA Rivals?
Grateful.
No, never, man.
Man, look at my portfolio.
I'm not good at selling, bro.
What am I thinking?
What am I thinking?
I know you well enough, too.
You know, that just kind of went off the cusp.
Went off the dome.
But, yeah, I should know better.
I should absolutely know better.
Again, we're going to get Mr. John Lindeninden ceo of mythical coming on in about seven minutes you got any questions for us
man let's flip it up you know you're you're a host you want to put your hosting hat on for a second
you got any questions for mythical oh man 100 how is it for you to actually build a community around the game? Like what works the best?
What do you really enjoy?
Because I think communities, that's like a superpower to have a strong community that's really excited for what you're building.
And it doesn't have to be like a million people.
I think really the statement 1000 true fans is really powerful.
the statement 1000 true fans is really powerful.
So how is it for you guys building community around the mythical games
and what kind of people actually love those games?
Yeah, it's a fun one.
Again, it's the people who kind of believe in the concept
that we believe in as well.
They want to play these sport games and they've spent money
and they've bought packs.
And I'm going from the sport one in particular because the pudgy one I think is going to be just completely different.
They've already got that built in Web3 base, right?
That's going to be a really core base and the pudgies.
And I think the entire Web3 gaming space is going to come through for Pudgy Party, right?
They're familiar with the IP.
It's more global.
The game is a more generalized game.
Whereas FIFA rivals and NFL rivals, these are sport games, right?
So most likely, you're going to get people who are fans of those sports.
That's typically how it works.
You love the sport.
You want to get more content from the sport.
And you want to follow and collect your favorite players.
In order to do that, right, you know, these games need to have these licenses.
You got to have the license to the players.
You can't just, I can't just go ahead and make a game.
You know what?
You know what?
I'm going to use Messi's likeness and throw them in there.
So it's people who are obsessed as, you know, I say that in a good way,
with these professional leagues, with these sports,
who want to enhance their
collecting experience their gaming experience and doing it with you know the real players and
That allure of hey, I
Don't have to sell my account right. I don't have to do something off book and risk
in the terms of service if I earn something really rare and
I want to you know not just
play with it i'm going to sell it i'm going to let someone else play with it as well kind of like
add an extra element to your gaming experience those are the type of community members who
i think have been gravitating to these and a lot of them are not web3 based right there's
certain crossovers right and it's just uh it's pretty interesting man it's pretty
interesting eight banteks you got anything else to add to that on the fifa side because you can
probably dive deeper in when it comes to fifa yeah no i guess i'll probably just say i think like
having that you know love and passion for the sport itself kind of like what squiddy was was
mentioning i think is
key and I think then that helps you build a deeper connection with everybody in the community you
know especially a lot of the guys that like hang out in the discord um you know first thing I'll
ask people is you know what what team they support and who their favorite player is because you know
god I've been playing football since I was like seven years old and, you know, lived in Newcastle here ever since and haven't moved.
And, you know, this city, like many cities here in England, is built on football.
You know, it is just the number one sport.
It's watched by everybody.
And I think bringing that passion into something like fifa rivals and mythical
has really helped me like on the the community side to just build relationships with people and
and i think that um we have some good connections with with a lot of community members now and we
see i could see some of them even here in the spaces right now who've been putting our content
doing live streams in even their own native languages
creating their own kind of tick tocks youtube videos you name it so um i think we've got
something really good going here and you know fifa rivals hasn't even been out for that long
and i'm already really impressed by what we've built and what i've seen from the community
already because i think that's the whole thing about web3 as well you know we're building out
and open we're being very transparent with you know a lot of the patch notes and things that we're working on here in the background and you
know it's it's the community as well that's that's making a lot of those decisions and i think that's
one thing i love so much about what we've been doing here i think it's it's really good for me
that in clash royale if i win it's a win but but I don't have any, like, connection to that game,
like to football, right?
But when I win in FIFA Rivals, it feels, like, great.
And I love winning, right?
Like, by the way, I'm Abe Games 2024 champion.
But I didn't want to talk about it.
I see Abe well here.
But it's really fun, and you can win a few games in few games in like five, 10 minutes and you can move on and then
play again.
So yeah, I'll be playing more guys like next spaces we do together.
I'll be so much better.
I promise.
We're going to hold you to that.
Going to hold you to that.
And I hope that I'm able to see you on the pitch one day.
That would be pretty cool.
That would be pretty cool. We got pretty cool we got some i gotta say
what's up to some more people down there as well again shout out to everyone who's been hanging out
with us so far evan hilton in the crowd what's up evan ape whale i see you down there who else um
we got drawdown club colossus welcome hans, what's up, Hansi, one of our
Mythos Foundation head ambassadors. Great to see you down there. You've been doing some
awesome stuff. What's up, Grizz? We've got Woon, Anish, Francis, welcome. Bald Z, Bales.
Anish, Francis, welcome.
Bald Z, Bales.
We got my man Alpha Degen in the house.
What's going on?
Really good stuff.
Right on cue.
Right in time for Linden's Corner.
Mr. John Linden himself.
We're going to bring him on up here.
Perfect timing.
How about that? Mr. John how are you good how are you doing sorry I missed the first part of this uh spaces here but uh I
made it so no we're so happy to have you listen Linden's corner moves around with Linden it's what
we do here, right?
We can't otherwise it would just be a corner and that doesn't sound fun at all
Well glad to be here. Oh, how's it been going? How's everything going? How's everybody doing?
We're doing great and we've been talking to our our community legend of the week mr
Grateful eight and now you've been on a space before too
I always want to just hand over the microphone and let him kind of like chat with you up you know getting someone from the outside of
the ecosystem um kind of bring the 2022 conversations bring it back to 2025 he's one of my favorite
space hosts and a community legend in his own right he's been ripping some of these fifa games
grateful if you remember john john grateful hello hello hi Hello, hello. Hi, John. I love it. Love to be here.
I remember actually
your name, John, was taken
on Twitter. That's really dope.
I tried to get at
John, but it was taken.
But I also remember
you had or still have
the... Do you still have a pink fur
ape? Oh, man.
You're going to tear my heart out with this one.
I had it.
And then after we started staking for ape, I moved it from safe to a MetaMask wallet.
Because at the time, you couldn't stake from safe.
And I got hacked.
And they took it.
They took it.
And all my ape.
So, yeah.
I know I lost my pink ape, man.
I was very proud of i think it's
number 8408 so uh it's been gone and traded like a dozen times since then i think whoever had it
though ever the wallet that had it they had about 125 apes so i think they took a lot of people's
unfortunately damn that that sucks that sucks i know it was not a good day for me yeah yeah we'll
have to find it man we'll find it a but we'll we'll have to find it, man, we'll find it,
but we'll find it, we'll find it. I'll get it back, I'll get it back. So we just, how are you doing,
man? How's everything going? Oh, it's great, man. We still hosting. We are on episode like 391.
So very good. Congratulations. Hosted many legends like Gary V, you, of course, and so on and so on.
You know, we had so many great people learn a lot,
keep going, building, you know, pushing Web3 forward.
It's, you know, we talk about the interview that we did.
Actually, it was November 2022 that it was really eye opener for me
because back in the day, we all thought that Web3 is going to be
only about like self-custody, right?
That every gamer will have to have their own seat phrase, etc.
But you were one of the first who mentioned that.
It's very tough to onboard people that way, right?
So it was awesome.
What has changed in gaming, actually?
Or how gaming evolved since 2022 in your eyes?
Web3 gaming, I mean.
Yeah, the Web3 gaming side so so i i mean i
think we're kind of i mean mythical at least we're on our third iteration i think the third one's
going to be the right one we've been we've been at this for a while and we definitely are learning
right because it's not only you're dealing i mean the gaming industry in general is fucking hard i
mean it's just a hard industry to be in like i i always tell everybody like they're always like oh
this is great it's you know i want to make a game i'm like don't do it it's hard you know and uh no we love it though
you have to love it you have to be passionate about it but you also have to be ready to to
i don't it maybe sounds weird but it's almost like like being an actor you have to go in every
day and you have to audition every day and learn and get feedback every day and and really kind of
make sure you apply that into the next one.
Right. And I think I think that's what we're trying to do.
You know, we've we've had some we've had some great games.
I think what we are good at doing is kind of creating a fun a fun game loop.
I think we've done that pretty well.
But there's so much more to just a game loop.
Right. You have to you know, I mean, as I've told people before, before it's hard to make a game.
It's even harder to ship a game.
And it's really, really hard to sustain a game, right?
And they're almost exponential each time.
And, you know, we've been very good at making games.
I think we've been very good at shipping games.
And we're working hard to make sure we can sustain games, right?
And I think we've entered into some new challenges.
So I'll use kind of NFL as an example.
You know, NFL, we were very lucky to get kind of amazing IP.
And we were able to get them kind of on board of like what we want to do and what this looks
like.
And hey, we're going to do a living economy.
And it's not going to be an annual title that shifts every year.
And you're 2024.
Patrick Mahomes no longer works in 2025.
Right.
It's going to be this living, living economy.
And we did that.
Right.
It was great.
It was a lot of fun.
We, you know, we made a, you know, we're a top, top app in the app store app in the app store. We did really well with that. We pulled millions of players into that game. And then year two comes around, right? And now we're facing a challenge that most of the sports games don't have, right? Because we want to have a living economy. We want Mahomes 24 to be as valuable to somebody that purchased it as Mahomes 25, right? But that's tough to do. And I think year two for us was a little challenging. I think we
did a pretty good job. I'd say if I gave our NFL season two, I'd give us ourselves a B plus,
maybe a solid B on our execution of that, because there's a lot of balance now, right? How do we
make sure 24 is worth a lot, but 25 is also building and you're excited about 25, but you're
also not increasing a power inflation curve to where new players that are new to the game aren't overwhelmed, right?
And I think we did pretty well.
I think we've already learned stuff in FIFA that's been better.
And now I think we're at a phase now, in this kind of third phase now, that we're learning from multiple games, right?
Like what we're starting to learn from Pudgy, even in soft launch, we're going to be able to apply to NFL.
You know, what we're learning in NFL, we can apply to FIFA, right?
And I think that starts getting really exciting.
And then obviously, we haven't announced yet, but there's other game companies now building on our platform.
And we want to share that with them as well, right?
So I think it's really, how do we really take best practices in this new world?
in this new world. And I think to me, that's the biggest thing that shifted. So kind of another
And I think to me, that's the biggest thing that shifted.
example, if you're cool with me giving one more example here, is that, you know, we started off
in NFL and you could buy and sell, right? Just like an NFT market. We basically brought that
NFT market into the game. So you can buy and sell, you know, and I can buy with a credit card
now. So we added on ramps and then you could buy with crypto if you had crypto, right? And that was
great. And we saw a nice lift in revenue we saw about 20 of the money came from
from that and then we added this thing called quick trade to where now i can trade you know
so instead of the idea behind this is hey i can actually trade for an asset by having a you know
basically getting the order book price from my assets and i can pick three or four of my assets
maybe i want to get rid of that have the same value as what I'm trading in.
And that was a big move for us.
That was pretty awesome, right?
It's like, cool.
Now gamers can actually not even have to pay.
They can trade items back and forth.
And then, you know, there's fees generated and things like that.
The buyers and sellers are all getting connected around the world.
So that was a really cool thing.
We started seeing a lot more transaction volume.
And now kind of where we're heading, and I've kind of mentioned this before on another podcast,
is now I want to basically kind of use AI
to give yourself your own trader.
So imagine in a game now,
you have an agent that's coming to you saying,
hey, I really want this asset
and I'm willing to trade you for this, right?
And it can be personalized.
So the gamers can now,
each gamer can have their own effective trading agent
that's helping them progress through the game.
And to me, that's the phase we're in right now.
We got through the fundamentals,
we got things working,
we connected the dots together,
and now it's really,
how do we really, really go deep into gaming?
Because the marketplace should ultimately be a game feature,
not just a marketplace.
So that's where I think we're heading right now,
and I think that's a cool part of the...
It's a great time to see this happen start happening in web 3 so you'll start seeing a
lot of that happening in fifa and nfl and pudgy later um but uh it's coming and it's coming coming
at a pretty fast pace does that help a little bit oh 100 and that's the thing that i remember
from the last time that you mentioned also that it's very very hard to make
successful game long term and i think maybe 2021 was like everyone was launching like or or actually
saying we want to launch a game token metaverse and i don't want to what else and i didn't invest
in many of them and i think all of them are gone right now because because you mentioned it's super
hard and you need to have a great team actually behind, right?
And experience, etc.
So that was Alpha and there was no AI that I was using back in 2022, right?
So it's also a huge, huge change.
So what's on the roadmap right now?
Yeah, there's quite a bit happening.
You know, I think FIFA is great.
It's been out for about seven weeks.
We're super excited about that game.
Like I said, we're sitting at well over a million players at this point,
and we're not really marketing the game super heavy yet.
I consider ourselves still in kind of the soft launch phase.
So we're still kind of tuning the game.
We're still getting it right.
And then you're going to see a lot of stuff happening.
But we are now going to be introducing things like clubs,
hopefully leagues soon.
So we're going to be expanding that world of FIFA to other clubs, other leagues, other things like that, which will be exciting.
As I mentioned before, we're really going to be the biggest next step as we're bringing that marketplace into the game.
And we're trying to do it in a new way that we haven't done before to where it's not just, you know, you can do the marketplace and you can find exactly the asset you want.
But we do really want it more gamified.
So we're working through that right now in terms of how does it become core to the game?
You know, you come in, you play with your players,
and then you come in and you trade your players, right?
And I think that's going to be a really awesome opportunity.
And it really dives into how do gamers play?
How do they transact?
How do they want to transact, right?
So that's going to be another big phase here.
I will drop a little bit more.
I've hinted a little bit in the past,
but I'll drop some news here as well. We are thinking heavily about tournament space.
And how do we really effectively do tournaments?
And really, to me, when I was at Call of Duty,
there was more, no matter how many live ops we would throw out as Call of Duty,
there were always the community wanted more. And that's just how communities
work. They always have a better idea.
I got a better idea.
I want to throw this style, right?
I want to do this type of event.
So what we are working on is we're working on a kind of a platform to do exactly that,
right?
And hopefully we'll start seeing it in the next month or two, hopefully, with maybe NFL
as a test because there's already a lot of very competitive players there.
Maybe we start introducing some of these tournament structures in NFL.
But ultimately, we want to have kind of this community tournament system
to where anybody can set up the rules, right?
It's your tournament.
You set it up how you want to do it.
Influencers can throw their own tournaments if they wanted to.
You know, anybody can basically kind of become a tournament organizer.
And I think that's going to be really, really cool.
So that's kind of where those are probably the two biggest things
that we're heading with new functionality.
And then obviously the other big news is we have kind of this new game called Pudgy Party coming out, which we're super, super excited about.
I think the reactions have been amazing.
You know, we're, I mean, God, taking that IP of P pudgy and I think it's going to be pretty remarkable.
And I think my favorite thing so far is people are like they love the game.
I've seen people play.
God, I've seen people play to like level 79 already, which I couldn't didn't even know was possible at this point.
But people are playing the game and they haven't even seen the entire game yet.
So there is new things happening.
I think it's this week.
I don't want to I don't want to misstate.
It's either this week or next week.
There's going to be a brand new kind of version of Pudgy starting to hit soft launch.
And then the game's out shortly after that with, you know, with full, full, full brains
behind mythical and, and Pudgy obviously.
And, and, and that, that team is going really, really, really hard.
So there's going to be new things you can do.
You can now evolve your Pudgies.
You can change your Pudgies. You can change your Pudgies.
You can get different versions of the ones you're already seeing.
And that's when it starts getting very collectible and very strategic.
So I'm super pumped.
We have NFL starting next week.
We have Pudgie the following week after that.
We have new Pudgie functionality this week.
We're working hard to get some new functionality into FIFA.
It's a busy time.
Could you share a bit how's the gameplay like in in pudgy party game yeah so we we've uh we've gone down i'd say the initial gameplay right now is very much a party genre
game um you know and again i i um you know there's other party genre games out there i think what i
love you know obviously fall guys was kind of the first one. Stumble Guys kind of took it to a new level, frankly.
I think Fall, I think Stumble Guys is now, I think they've had nearly 500 million installs now
across their platform over the last seven years.
You know, and they've kind of taken the next step.
And this is kind of our iteration of that world, right?
So we are playing in the partying genre game.
It's kind of a battle royale.
You come in with your, you come in with your pudgy.
You can deck them out in
different costumes. Obviously, all the costumes have superpowers and all that. I don't know if
anybody saw the one from Comic-Con that we did with Pudgy, but it was sick. The power Pudgy
was remarkable. And each one has their own flavor, their own personality. And you can basically,
you're very strategic in how you collect them and how you use them, more importantly.
And I think people are going to get, it's, we tried to make
the game so it's super easy to pick up and anybody can come in and kind of compete. So you're going
through these worlds, you're going through these mazes, that you're, you're, you've, I think you've
seen probably a fraction of what the levels that are going to be coming out already. But it's fun,
it's everything from King of the Hill to, to collection mechanics to team-based kind of co-op.
So it's a fun new world.
I obviously have the fortune to see what's coming out later.
But I'd say every month there's going to be a brand new season, brand new levels, brand new themes that are going to be kind of, kind of, uh, brought out to the
world of Pudgy Penguins. And I think it's going to be really, really cool. And again, I think that
the other cool thing is that people haven't even seen, um, how you evolve these Pudgies, right?
People are collecting the base ones now, but they haven't, we haven't revealed the, uh, the way they
morph and the way you can actually take it to a new level. So I think people are going to be super
excited. Uh, you'll probably start seeing that literally this week though.
So I think you'll start seeing videos and stuff like that happen.
And then everybody can get in the game literally in two weeks.
So it's,
it's an exciting time coming up.
John,
I've got people who were trying to go over to different countries to try and
get in on the software.
They're trying to bounce around and it's unbelievable.
And it's been so fun to see again,
just class and class mythical and pudgy
You know these things are just cuter than those other games. They're very cool
And also both games honestly, it's funny because obviously, you know, mobile's the main footprint for both FIFA and
FIFA and and pudgy
Try it on iPad if you have one it's absolutely stunning
Honestly, like I've been pretty blown away playing it on iPad
So definitely check it out on tablet as well
when when when it's out and I think you can see I mean that I think pudgy I mean honestly pudgy feels
Console quality and I think you know, maybe maybe that's a direction we go right which it would be cool incredible
I know we have to wrap this up. I have to jump to this chat
I hate to break you guys up here.
John, do you have any, just anything you want to say to the mythical community, the people who have been around, you know, since day one of NFL rivals to those who are really just joining because of the pudgy penguins, anything you want to say to the community?
Well, I said, first of all, thanks for the support. You know, we don't always get it right, but we try damn hard to get it right.
I think we're, each week,
I feel like we're getting stronger and more cool things out there.
You know, it's really about the community, though.
And like I said, I hope you hear we're listening,
and I hope you hear that, you know,
we want to add more tools for the community
to kind of take over some of these games.
So, yeah, stay tuned.
Thank you for the support,
and play some games over the next couple weeks here.
Make sure you pre-register for Pudgy as well
because I think there's, I mean, it's closing in fast
on lots and lots of players.
So day one's going to be, my gut is,
well over 100,000 players on day one easily.
So, yeah, thank you all.
Incredible.
Again, there was a short and sweet Linden's Corner this time.
He'll be back in a month.
Pudgy, we're going to be in a good spot in a month.
Can't wait to see where we're at and can't wait to chat with you again.
Really appreciate this, John, and love hearing from you.
Love chatting with you once a month here on Mythical Mondays.
Grateful.
Very much appreciate you.
Again, you're my favorite space host thank you for
doing my job for the last 15 minutes uh with you and john i absolutely love that you know maybe one
time we can get john back on the grateful show love the energy man john's so hyped it's so good
man i love it i love it thanks for joining us you're welcome back anytime man let's do this
again okay makes you run through a brick wall. Absolutely love it.
To the community out there, again, all the penguins out there, all the apes,
all the other wonderful JPEGs that we see going on right now,
appreciate you all playing our mythical games.
We're going to continue to build and iterate on this Mythical Mondays
and can't wait to see where this thing goes.
Love having John be able to talk directly to the people.
My name is Squiddy from the mythical account.
Again,
your time is your most valuable asset,
everyone,
and spending it with the mythical community is greatly appreciated.
See you all in two weeks for episode 11 of mythical Mondays.
Sounds good,
man.
Squiddy.
Thanks so much,
bud.
You're a legend.
Peace guys.
Take care,
dude.
See ya.
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outro music here because we got the
15-second delay.
And, you know, audio
technicalities. So, we're just
going to keep chatting here because it's not
going to be heard at the end
when people are listening to recording.
Ah, damn.
Thank you, everybody.
Have a good one. Let's go.
Let's win together.
