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NFTs never Die! We Keep Going| Grateful Show #447
Recorded: March 19, 2026 Duration: 1:54:40Space Recording
Full Transcription
The pain made them understand
Shit
The sun tried to understand
The gun made me understand
The plan tried whispering in the morning
The land shaking plus the rhythm is enormous
All the forces like a portal to a vortex
Connected to the stars just projecting where we part at
Pull up where you parked at
Aim a little dart, look
Where you parked at
It'd be a shame if you stayed in them apartments
Twerve barely even came to them apartments
Catch a play in them parlay in them apartments
I swear it's like a party every day in them apartments
You was raised in them apartments, dang
Jump a shot or join a gang in them apartments.
My mama say we got to get away from them apartments. It's graves in them apartments
and they ain't got to end this way because we ain't starved shit. Do the shit you see on the screens. I've been tapped in with true things. I peep your rap cap and I'm true things.
I don't give a fuck about them niggas at the top.
The biggest nigga on the block still gets shot.
What's up, everybody?
Please retweet the space.
Comment.
Book most.
You gotta chill out.
Lee Sun, Al-Gaib.
I see if Tiny Line is silver.
A way to make a play, although they say it's unfamiliar.
It's off the
kilter i say the words without a filter you gotta have nerve it'll make you strong if it don't kill
you i'll put a bullet in bob the fucking builder before they try and kick us out the building what
about the children when i check a news channel i get a similar feeling but still we're gonna make
it to heaven high water or hell but don't take the highways 285 behind the damn wheel it's like a driveway giving out like a give christ and i do it twice
shy give chris hurry thunder hit with lightning and still i didn't feel she'd talk about resilience
off of stone mount locked on you where i honed into my brilliance it was after then i took my
talents right up to virginia heard they said that she could love us, she was good, she was greedy.
I could tell you what it was, but let bro tell you what I'm missing.
What's missing in my hood, I identified.
Then I brought white to my hood, shit I gentrified.
We had military arms, we would simplify.
Point blank, let me simplify.
I've been light post corner boy, green box sitter, crack nigga.
What's up, everybody?
Please retweet the space, comment, bookmark.
We still have two more minutes to go.
Holy shit.
Guys, my voice is kind of crazy today, but I'm not going to use my AI assistant.
So, guys, we still have two more minutes of intro
so drop a GM in the comments,
read me the space
and we gotta have another banger, banger episode.
Let's fucking go, everybody.
Nothing but a G-Tank.
Let's fucking go.
One, two, three, and to the folks.
Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door.
Ready to make an entrance, so back on up.
Cause you know about to rip shit up.
Give me the microphone first so I can bust like a bubble.
Compton and Long Beach together, now you know you struggle.
Ain't nothing but a G-Bang, baby.
Too low-down, take a soul with crazy.
Death Row is the label that pays me. Unfadeable, so please don't try to fetch it
But I'll back to the lecture at hand
Perfection is perfected, so I'ma let him understand
From a young G's perspective
And before me digger the bitch, I have to find a contraceptive
You never know, she could be earning her man
And learning her man
And at the same time burning her man.
Now you know I ain't worth that shit from Kenneth.
Ain't no pussy good enough to get burned while I'm up in it.
And that's griller than real deal Holyfield.
And that you hooked up and hoes know how I feel.
Well if it's good enough to get broke off a proper chunk, I take a small piece of some
of that funky stuff.
It's like this and like that and like this and up.
It's like that and like this and like that and up. It's like this and like that and like this and up. It's like that and like this and like that and up.
It's like this and like that and like this and up.
Drake creep to the mic like a fan.
Well, I'm beefing and I'm creeping and I'm creeping.
But I damn nigga count.
It's my beef or 10 beef and now it's time for me to make my impression felt.
So sit back, relax and strap on your seat.
You've never been on a ride like this before.
We're the producer who can rap and control the mice, bro. At the same time with the dope rhyme that I kick. Let's go everybody! This is Grateful show 447 oh gmgm everybody oh my god my voice in my headphones sounds more like a honeybees uh
i don't know if this is a special voice changer what's going on but it's crazy it's crazy
hype what's up man how you doing welcome here what up everybody let's go
i'm i can't i'm gonna i'm gonna fuck up and have a voice like you in 10 minutes if i do that
yo it's good bro you sound you sound like shit man you actually sound what the fuck happened
man oh my gosh in bangkok for the last fucking 10 days. They got me. They got you.
Definitely.
They definitely got you, brother.
But hey, Aqua always prevails.
Aqua is always on top.
Yo, everybody, redo the fucking room.
Let's go.
We got a bunch of banger guests today, for sure.
But yeah, man, drink some, I don't know, fucking cough syrup or something.
If they have that in your world, part of your world.
Yeah, Harbee was like man
we have to have shots from the toilet
lit or some shit like that man I did that
and it probably got me so never
listen to Honeybee guys he's
crazy he's crazy
you sound like a
young child bro just coming out of
the loom
this is probably the episode
after those 4 years or something man i probably never
had a worse uh voice than than this so you know uh first time but i love it i love it man have
you ever been this sick like have you ever been this like doing a space in terms of like probably
not i don't know what i don't even know what it is bro like it got me by balls you know it it's crazy i don't know um
i think it's covet probably because i don't smell anything which is which is great especially in my
in my basement here but uh man it's wild but we keep going wait yeah it's crazy is that
go ahead no no i think we gotta put on a mask jb well you don't even talk anyway so you don't
open your mouth so you're fine but we're we're gonna put on a mask yeah i was gonna say that like oh geez i'm sick now too once i what
the fuck i'm leaving the stage right now jesus christ what the heck happened but i was gonna say
like i i got sick like around new year's and it's the sickest i've ever been like in my whole like
my whole i never get sick i never get the colds I had COVID three times and I was asymptomatic didn't even feel anything but I was like yeah for for
a good two weeks like on my ass and I still have like a like a cold like a not cold but like a
like a cough so I'm just not sure what the fuck is going around but um yeah it's pretty pretty
nasty man so yeah sorry sorry grateful man sorry I had to go for that, but you'll be better soon, man.
It's okay.
When that happened to me, somebody was like,
yo, are you hitting puberty?
I'm like, what are you fucking talking about?
My voice is sounding higher, not lower.
They're like, oh, fuck, you must have hit puberty.
I'm like, motherfuckers.
So hopefully you guys have hit puberty.
You're over the age of 14.
And grateful.
Go ahead, brother.
It's going to be a good space.
It's going to be great.
We have incredible guests.
Of course, we have JB here.
We're going to be talking about Marscats.
We also have Coco joining us,
talking about Jimbo's,
Ape Church and everything that's happening.
And of course, Simple Farmer will join us to talk about Anvil and Freeman. That's coming to... You saying Jimbo's, ape church and everything was happening. You know, of course, simple farmer will join us to talk about Anvil and a free men that's coming
to Jimbo's.
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
I'm calling them Jimbo's.
I love it,
man.
Is it like Jim bros?
Yeah.
It's like a Jimbo.
It's like a,
yeah.
Ape church.
Like it's,
it's a hundred percent Jimbo,
bro.
I love it.
I love it.
I was thinking about the pronunciation,
but man, Jimbo's, I was like, man, I love it. I love it. I was thinking about the pronunciation, but man,
Gimbos,
I was like,
man,
I love Jimbo,
man.
I don't know.
You,
you drinking too many drugs right now,
brother.
Yeah.
That's that medicine.
They got me,
bro.
I feel kind of like,
yeah,
I took double a hundred percent,
man.
I did.
I always take double,
man.
So that's the way.
Wonk,
I saw you unmuted.
Go ahead and share the alpha with us
yeah I love that
I love that
guys please retweet the space if you have any comments
drop them into the comment section
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that also helped the algo
we have apechain special episode
Wong go ahead
the MFR always interrupts me, right?
Like, behave, you MFR.
And yeah, we saw that actually Mark Zuckerberg
canceled his plans for $80 billion metaverse,
which is kind of cool for us, you know.
Other side is better anyway, so I don't know.
But what a crazy time back in the day
there was that famous tweet right
a guy talking about buying real estate
in the metaverse for
hundreds of thousands of dollars
oh my god where these
times go actually because that was
crazy
let's hop into the topic
why we here because I wanted to play one song and then I figured out it's from Diddy.
I didn't know if it's good or bad to play it here, but you know...
You know, JB is coming home, you know, he's coming home to ApeChain with his collection, which is really cool.
It's happening today, right? Or it's already happening?
Yeah, it's already happened. Yeah, the bridge is open.
The floodgates are open, guys. It's incredible.
Big day, 100%, because it's great to see collections coming to ApeChain.
I think ApeChain is a chain of NFTs.
We see a lot of drama about other chains, right?
They are not chains for NFTs.
That's what we learned from the timeline.
But it's great to see communities vibing,
great to see communities coming to other side with their avatars,
new mints happening.
It's really exciting, to be honest, to be in this space.
And a big shout out to all the founders. That's really exciting, to be honest, to be in this space.
And a big shout out to all the founders.
That's another thing, right?
Because there would be no Apechain NFTs without actually founders bringing those NFTs to Apechain.
So big shout out to you guys.
No, no, appreciate it, man.
And like, yeah, I think you said it right.
Apechain for me has been showing that like,
I think they understand NFTs and I think they understand
collectors and where I think the space is going.
While I think a lot of folks have kind of given up on Web3 Gaming, for me, it's still
the number one use case that makes the most sense for gaming for assets and stuff, digital
the most sense for gaming, for assets and stuff, digital assets.
assets.
And to see Ape Chain kind of like really, really double down on it,
that definitely, you know, piqued my interest quite a bit.
And I think the moves recently and the team, you know, changes and stuff
have shown me that they are going to be aligning to that even more intensely.
So we wanted to make sure that, you know, aside from, you know,
we do have a collection on
Ape Chain with Battle Paws. So for the season one of that Battle Pass experience, we even
came on The Grateful Show to talk about it a few months ago. But it doesn't feel as connected
to Ape Chain, right? If our main collection or the brand that people know us from wasn't on Apechain, you know what I mean?
And I think for sure, it for sure put maybe Apechain in a bit of a tough position too.
It's like, oh, how do we, we can't support it all the way necessarily or put that much weight behind it.
Maybe they're not even thinking about this stuff consciously, right?
But like, it's something that we knew like, ah, you know, it's like it's tougher and even
for our community, right?
To kind of jump into, you know, all sorts of Ape Chain stuff, right?
If like we're not, if we don't have that kind of closer connection.
So this really kind of just built the bridge, no pun intended, but really built, I think, the bridge that we needed for not just the community, but also for just strategically as well.
So, yeah.
Yeah, man, 100% makes sense.
I see Hype's hand, so Hype, go ahead, bro.
Actually a really good topic because as, you know, JB just alluded to and mentioned, you know, guys like myself, Lord Vader, MM, we all came from ETH as founders, right?
So, you know, for us, it's very important to come to a home where the participation level and the community feels more active and there's more tools.
But my question for you, JB, is, you know, making that decision, obviously, it makes sense from a community aspect.
But in terms of you on a personal level, I want to ask you the question around like, you know, what was the one thing that, taking aside the stuff you've been doing when you first initially got here, what's the one thing you were looking for to come over?
Because I think there's a lot of other founders that are still out there kind of stranded in these other ecosystems that I
want them to have the same feeling that the three of us had plus I want to hear what you have to say
so that people can go back to their communities and say like look here is the place to be because
of so what's the one reason for you that brought you over for me it has to be like it has to be
the community um definitely has to be the community um like saw the way ApeChain communities took over Nifty Island, right?
When the chain came live and they finally got the integration and Rita was pushing that
integration pretty hard.
And you just saw how there's a lot of 3D native communities as well on ApeChain and they had
jumped in.
And then I'd kind of seen Ape, all the different spaces as well that you saw popping off.
And just the vibes, I think, were really good.
And I think ApeChain does a really good job of, in quotes, like, you know, cleaning the community and making sure that, you know, people are here for the right reasons and backing, I think, the right people.
So I think really community has to be the big one.
But then what really kind of got me well over the line was the team.
Like talking to people like Spend, you know, the help from folks like Alok
and like even Oxquit when we were looking at NFT Shadows, you know,
like, you know, well before just having those touch points and then getting to know Ryan, James and stuff,
they're all just top-notch people, right? Simple Farmers here too, top-notch people.
There's not really, if you look at other chains, there really isn't that caliber, I think, of
folks. They maybe have a couple folks, but I don't think they're as in touch with the community as much. And then so community, the team, and you just
feel the support, right?
When we were doing Battle Paws, you have to think, when we were doing Battle Paws and
promoting that, and that was minted on Apechain, that was right at the time when OtherSide
came on, right?
And like we had already minted and we were doing some stuff.
Then Other Side comes on and all the focus is on Other Side.
There's all these strategic posts about, okay, we want to focus on Other Side.
This is the main thing for Ape Chain and all that stuff.
And we're doing this on Nifty Island.
All our activations are on Nifty Island.
No other side, right?
Because it just came open.
ApeChain was still backing.
ApeChain was still supporting us.
We're still getting likes, retweets, comments and stuff.
When we had spaces, people from the ApeChain team would show up.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
They could have, for sure, maybe been a bit more quiet, not as supporting
as much because it's not on the other side, but they still showed up. So for me, that
was like a massive, okay, they get it. They're on a different level.
It's great to hear that, man. and it's great to see the support.
I know we're still early in this game, but, you know, the community is really, really dope.
And you can see all those people here in the audience also, right?
Like Otter, Honeybee, Don Diablito, Coolchick, Bedras, Otis, GMA, Onizanza, DP, Marathon Crypto, Alloc, Locomoco,
Stephanie, and so on and so on.
Such great people and supporters.
So absolutely love it.
Maybe one more quick question before we get into how the bridge works
and how can people bridge their assets.
And maybe there are some incentives to do. I don't know.
You mentioned 2021.
So can you describe
shortly the journey
through those five years?
Because there are a lot of
ups and downs through that.
I don't know about your project, but in the market
it was crazy. So how did
you make it all the way up here?
Yeah, I mean, it was, you know, lots of downs, some ups, a few ups and like a lot of downs.
But I mean, it's just been, I think, a lot of consistency and just pushing the community forward a little bit in certain areas. A lot of learning on my end about the space, the market, what people want to see as a founder as well.
We did a CTO a couple years in, so the original founders of Mars Cats.
We're getting distracted, looking at other markets and stuff, and I think we're seeing where the market was going.
And they just lost a little
bit of interest. But we thought the art was just banging IP and the potential of it was there. So
we made an offer. I was involved on the team as well, helped with marketing,
helped on the community aspect. But I was in a position and they had my trust that I could make
an offer and we could figure out the deal, especially legally.
That's kind of the issue is making sure you can do it legally and get all full control and stuff of all the assets.
But yeah, I mean, it's been a long, long journey, lots of learning.
We even have like some NFTs on ordinals.
We have 333 on ordinals. We have 333 on ordinals.
We made it free for the community.
They just had to use the off-chain currency
that we have, kind of like points.
So they could use that and they only had to pay extra
if they wanted to mint on a rare Satoshi.
They could pick whichever one they wanted
and they could just inscribe on it.
So we did that.
We did all sorts of, we really dove in pretty deeply in early 2024 on the gaming side.
So we've gotten ready in 2023 with our avatars,
a whole bunch of 3D structures.
If you go into the other side, VibeMaker world,
you'll see a big, huge Mars Cat Hub.
So that's one of the assets we had created back in
2023. And this is all to go into Nifty Island, full integration, strategic partner as well.
So we had our assets in their game so that people could use in-game tokens to unlock some of these cool collectibles, like the swords and the guns.
And we dove in pretty, pretty deep. Started off really fighting with other collections
for our community to be at the top there. And then we eventually was able to get to number one
position for ETH native communities. And then also at the same time, we were diving into pixels, like kind of at the same time,
they kind of both went live.
Pixels went live, I think like a week or two before Nifty Island back in early 2024.
So we had to kind of figure out like, holy shit, how do we attack both of these spaces?
We are fully integrated in pixels so people could walk around with their avatars in pixels which is a bit like a indie game pixelized farmer game farmer sim metaverse type type thing
and uh yeah then so with other side too we jumped into all the different projects you know all the
different openings we're there for the world the world record as well um but yeah it's been just
a good process of chasing after what the community wants to do.
Doing lots and lots and lots of events.
We started doing crazy amounts of events, even starting way back in 2022.
We had weekly game nights that we'd always do.
And that evolved into lots of live streaming and just checking out different games. We do a lot
of stuff with Alternates as well, which is like a first-person shooter, a bit like Bathroom
Blitz, sort of. They're on Ape Chain as well. And Ape Chain was just a freaking awesome
community. And that's kind of, I think organically, we just kind of slipped onto the Ape Chain
side and have been enjoying it.
In one of your tweets you shared that you've been building toward this, meaning toward the bridge,
for over a year. What were the main points that you decided, hey, I want to bridge to Ape Chain and why do you think it will be really beneficial for you and the holders for the future?
Because Garga mentioned in one of his tweets that if you have collection on Ape Chain, you are betting on other side, right?
Yeah, definitely. And I think other side, if you just look at the funding that they
have and runway, they've got the runway of a huge gaming studio. So even if we do go
into a bear market, they've got the ambition is there, They've got the funding, the runway. So we know we're going to be able to play in a game system that has the slack to be able to improve and do things over time.
So that's super exciting.
And Nifty Island as well, we're very much excited about the stuff that they're doing.
They also have a really good runway.
And they're on Ape Chain as well that they're doing. They also have a really good runway, and they're on ApeChain as well that they're integrated fully. But I think being on ApeChain,
aside from aligning ourselves to other side and stuff, I think it's a natural destination for
natural destination for I think people that are kind of NFT aficionados and have been
part of the culture for a while.
Board Apes started it all.
That's where all the energy was.
They freaking bought punks.
You know what I mean?
They bought punks.
They bought all the biggest IPs and have recently kind of been very strategic about how they
want to run things going forward. And I think they've made pretty much all the great moves that they've made past closing
down the DAO or proposing to close down the DAO and taking ownership back from the entity
that they had before.
It's all been really good, right?
Like all the people that they've added on the team as well.
I haven't seen anybody like being added to the team where I'm like,
that doesn't make any sense, right?
So it's been a lot of those things, right?
Like just seeing them make all the right moves.
And like a lot of people that I think are more traders
or they're more like uh sentiment sensitive right like people
that are very sensitive to like the sentiment or what people are saying we'll see maybe the token
going down and be like oh well that's like a losing bet or like you know why would you do that
it's a coin you know it's never gonna it's never gonna go well right um but you know we're looking
at the fundamentals very much specifically just at the fundamentals.
We really don't really care that much about token price.
We let the fundamentals kind of decide where we want to align to.
We don't want to align ourselves.
We've been around for five years.
We don't want to align ourselves to something that's probably going to you know mess up right or we're seeing you know
the founders or people on the team that are slacking that aren't really taking shit seriously
and stuff like that like we won't we wouldn't make the move right so i think everything on the ape
chain side and like yuga side for me has lined up fundamentally um so that's kind of why we wanted to join.
Love to hear that, man.
Now probably the most important question,
but before we get into that,
I want to say hi to a few people that joined us here on stage.
Guys, also please retweet the space.
It will help my voice.
So every retweet will improve my voice by 0.69 percent so uh yeah we need a lot of retweets so let me quickly circle around say hi to people here on stage simple farmer what's
good bro how's it going hey jm sir you're doing well shout out to everybody on the audience j
doing well shout out to everybody on the audience jay and pipe uh what's we got here long grateful
jespy hope you guys are doing well doing great man doing great can't wait to talk about what
you've been cooking and a free mint mfrs you know free mint on open sea uh get ready uh
Get ready.
Yep.
Gonna be talking about it
in the next
half of the show. So let's
fucking go. I also see
Chespi, the alien MF-er.
I think
US government actually bought a new
domain, bro. So...
Or was that you?
Man. that wasn't
supposed to happen.
You know, we're cooking with the US
government. I didn't want to say
that's the alpha, but man, happy
to hear you, man. We miss you
early this week. I hope you're recovering.
And also,
JB, welcome to ApeCham, bro.
It's one of the best places
to build.
Thanks, bro. It's one of the best places to build. Thanks, Ledger, man.
It doesn't sound that great from Orange background, but it's still great.
Yeah, I was going to say, bro, I mean, it's 50-50.
Hey, retweet the room, guys.
Wait, wait, but I have a secret for you guys, Aquamarines, right?
Like, just squinch your eyes a little bit.
You know, just close a little bit your eyes
And you and you will still see orange
Yeah, that's true I tried it
Rita welcome here legend. How you doing man? All good
What's wrong with your voice grateful, bro? I don't know man. He's got me man. I was with honeybee in Bangkok and it got me bro
Damn, that was the problem. He was in Bangkok
He was he was inside the bleeds drinking the acid
playing too much ping pong
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. let's not talk about the ping and the pong okay
we got wong up here so let's not be disrespectful we play ping ping wong
it is what it is uh rita how you doing, man? All good? All good, all good.
Great to hear that.
You killing it with a peanuts, man,
and with the drops on your platform.
Love to see that, man.
Yeah, no, I came here to show support to JB.
He's always supporting all the different communities
with his games.
And I'm hoping Coco's coming up here right
thanks a lot Rita
I appreciate you man
rejoice
I didn't know you guys were using Shadow Tech
yeah
we were going to use it
like a lot earlier
and that's why this was kind of
taking a bit of time uh but they kind of sunset a bit the uh i'm not sure if other people here were
were part of that too but they were gonna um add a few other collections it's kind of like wave one
after macy and and and and basie were added to shadows but then they kind of sunset the bridge
a bit and like the tech um and you know to
kind of think probably focus on the other side so i you know reached out i gabe as well was was
caught with did the same thing used the same technology for for heavy metal so i was like
shit like you know let's do the if that's i used what gabe had and i was like that's that's simple
and let's just do that you know i mean So people can bridge there and back if they want.
I've even taken one Marscat and I've done it bridge to ApeChain, bridge back to ETH,
bridge back to ApeChain, you know what I mean?
In like two minutes.
It's pretty freaking hilarious, you know?
But yeah, it's not like full, like we can use the NFT shadows if we want to, where,
you know, it stays on ETH and you just have a copy on ApeChain.
But there's some other costings that come up with that, but we're using the bridge and stuff.
Can I ask a question since you just talked about that real quick, JB?
So you ended up using the shadow tech, so as you said, you can bridge it back and forth.
So is it the same technology where individuals can do it?
It's not by contract or by project?
Like if I decided I don't want to do it, I don't have to, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
It's just you going on the website, picking the ones you want,
and then you bridge them over.
And then like a couple of minutes, you see them on on ape chain and then you can bridge them back to eith like in you know the same
the same uh it's way it's obviously cheaper when you go from ape to when you say cheaper
and you also mentioned cost what cost is uh what what cost is there jb is it cost to the
person that actually bridges or is it cost to the collection no so it's so if you go the if
you go the the full nft shadows route um like the way that macy and basie are are are done you the
contract it's it's it's pretty expensive for the contract so anytime there's a transaction
it costs like one ape for for for the Right? So right now, like, you
know, Basie, Macy, that's what they're doing for their collections to be, you know, shadowed
on one ape chain.
That's a lot for like $25, right? Oh, shit, I'm back in 2022. Sorry. Sorry.
No, but this is for every transaction. So any movement of wallets, any kind of, you
know, anything you do, it has to index every single time for the NFT Shadows contract. So it can be a little bit more expensive. But as part of the NFT Shadows contract, there's like a simple bridge where you just interact with the Beacon contract. And then you become on. So it's kind of like a, like almost like a like a token right like a token that's on multiple
multiple chains it kind of works the same way so you don't have to go that route yeah did
you talk to uh ernest and erin about their unvault or is it any different than that or
i i haven't i've heard i've heard of what they're doing but i haven't uh i haven't had
a chance to to kind of to look too deeply into that.
I would have to see.
What's cool too about the shadows, and I know you can also do it for like so, and it's hidden
right now because we don't have that on our website, but you can technically do the same
thing and be on base.
You could just bridge directly on base right so you could just
bridge directly on base if you want to and that's already built into the nft shadows contract that's
out um and then um based on what they've posted they're going to be looking to do it to more
to more chains um so i don't but i don't know how the unvault stuff uh i think about the vault is
are you canadian jay yeah bro oh okay
yeah there's three canadians on stage let's go
let's go guys why could you hear it could you hear it my voice do i have that accent
it was a boat and uh something something else i don't i don't see a boat yeah you do
you did you did you said something else yeah yeah oh okay okay you said a you said a yeah
a i say a quite a bit yeah yeah no i was gonna say real quick the the shadowing tech though is that
uh just correct me if i'm wrong that's all evm based currently and i think unvolt
is is multi-chain right so whether it's
evm or or the chains i think is the is the main difference but again i can't speak on that but i
think that's that's one of the things about the the stuff you're doing with the shadow tech is
theoretically like you said base or obviously ape chain is evm right so
yeah and and what i liked about this solution is that people can do whichever they want.
Right. And we've always had that issue with our community.
Right. Like when we went from when we did like ordinals.
Right. We had to get man, we had to do like a bunch of education posts and stuff just to get people to kind of get out of their ETH only mindset.
Right. Like if you collect NFTs on Solana, you'll know it's the same issue.
Right. Like for a long time, you know, most ETH communities like looked at Solana like trash and if it was
like, you know, and, and, uh, uh, you know, thought it was just like a, a chain. And then
if you go on Solana, it's kind of the same thing, right? They look at ETH like it's the devil and
right? Like that's kind of the, the meme. Right. Um, and so same thing with ordinals, right? When
we try to get people to, to look into, um, that tech, right? And so same thing with ordinals, right? When we try to get people to look into that tech, right?
Like they're like, oh, this is all bullshit.
It's a fad, blah, blah, blah.
And like we didn't do anything that extravagant, right?
Like with it, we just wanted to give people a taste of what it was like.
So we only did like 333 and for free, people had to like uh the um off-chain token we had to to
get it but it was kind of the same issue right just getting people to think about another chain
than eth is like ah so it's like ape chain we had a couple right like this morning people are like
oh what the why are we touching this like dirty chain like why are we involved with this stuff
and and and uh oh like you know and you know people fighting and whatever because it's not eth but
And, oh, like, you know, and, you know, people fighting and whatever, because it's not ETH.
But you have to just get people out of their comfort zone, man, and just and look at things, you know, differently and show people, you know, the benefits.
Right. And in this case, what I think is beautiful is that if you don't want to if you don't want to bridge, you don't have to.
Right. Just keep your NFT on ETH. If you think ETH is like the holiest of holies and touched by god you know i mean you can you can keep it there and if you
want to go and check out ape chain you can do that and then if you want to come back you can do that
it's pretty easy you know you just pay gas which is right now a dollar from the east side or like
a dollar back from a chain right and that's. I have another question for you, Jake.
Once bridged, the collection size is how big on ETH right now?
At 10,000.
And when you bridge one, does it become 9,999, or is it always 10,000?
Yeah, so the one on ETH will go down.
If, like, let's say 1,000 people bridge from, like, ETH to ApeChain,
well, then the supply on ETH is going to go down to, like, 9,000. Oh, let's say, a thousand people bridge from ETH to ApeChain, well then the
supply on ETH is gonna go down to 9000.
Oh, that's cool.
So how do you motivate people to bridge JB? And what's your goal with that?
Do you have a goal that you would love to maybe have 50-50 for, I don't know, first
month? I saw it with heavy
metals and I actually bridge them to a chain first then I bridge them back to
eat because I think to actually evolve them you needed to have them on eat so
how do you motivate people to do it yeah that's a that's a good question I
think for most of the active folks that we've got around, it's pretty easy to get
them to want to do it.
But what we have as well is that for the first 69 wallets that do it, we're going to be issuing
them an exclusive badge on OpenPage.
And then the first 99 wallets are going to be able to claim a role in our Discord. And then we've also got for the first 777 cats bridged over to ApeChain are going to
be eligible.
It's going to be like a raffle ticket for the last one of one honorary that we still
have in the vault.
So this is like a five-year-old one of one that hasn't left the vault basically. So the honorary, the person that
this was made for was a kind of model influencer back in 2021 that was like super active in the
in the Web3 space and did a lot of cool stuff and was well known. But she never claimed it.
She never claimed the honorary and we've kind of had it um you know got one for paris hilton as an example right guy this was back in 2021 right so like everything
was like crazy right like i'm sure other collections have the same well i mean like
apes have like crazy stories right like rappers and artists and like and athletes and stuff
and so we had we had kind of you know a similar um i, um, I will say Harry's Hilton's DMs,
bro.
Yeah.
That's fucking crazy.
Yeah.
I wish her to
happy birthday.
Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
we organized,
we organized for her to get the,
the honorary and stuff.
And she was like super happy,
like quote retweeted it and stuff.
Like half the time,
I don't think they know what they're,
what,
what they're,
you know,
tweeting about, you know what I mean? Or just like, I think it was just like her, her quote retweeted it and stuff. Half the time, I don't think they know what they're tweeting about. You know what I mean? I think it was like her quote retweet was like, loves this,
like with an S, like loves this or something. It was her assistant saying like, oh, she loves this.
You know what I mean? Like her taking care of her Twitter account or something. But yeah,
so the person didn't claim it. So we've had it for a while and we knew we wanted to give it away in a special way.
So yeah, first 777, they're going to be able to get that and we're going to have the post
for that coming out fairly soon.
So today is going to be a lot of posts going out just to kind of remind people.
And we've got other incentives too that we're going to, if things slow down, if we think
we want to get more people over, we'll start cranking up some, some incentives.
So, yeah.
Do you have numbers right now?
How many people actually bridged?
Yeah, I can go check now.
So we've got, let me see.
So we've got 200, almost 240 NFTs bridged over.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's going well.
So only been open for a few hours,
but yeah, we're going to keep going at it and try to get, you know, try to get that 777.
Hopefully by this weekend, maybe.
I think we can try to get there
and then just keep building on that.
And do you plan actually to give the utility to both collections on ETH and ApeChain?
Or are you going to focus only on ApeChain?
So if people want to get something, they have to bridge.
Yeah, as as so, oh, the other incentive that I was going to say is that so we've got our utility
token cream that people can earn passively
just by holding Mars cats, right? But we're going to do for 57 days or sorry, 54 days,
we're going to 3x that so people can get 3x their cream allocation, you know, just for
having their NFTs on ApeChain. So I think that's going to help us get a lot more folks bridging over.
And the other kind of good incentive for us, too, is that there's royalties, right?
So this is all enforced royalties, right, if you're on ApeChain.
And we haven't been getting royalties for three years, pretty much, right?
It's been like 0.0005 ETH in royalties in three
years. So it's going to be good for us to start getting some people over and start getting
the Ape Chain collection as the main collection that we'll be focusing on. But we want to
make sure too that if you have a Marscat on ETH, you can still
use other side and like your avatars there. And then if you've got one on ApeChain, you can still
use your avatar, right? We want to still make sure that, you know, we don't like take away utility,
but we'll be adding some cool things for the NFTs on ApeChain too.
Love it, man. That's dope.
That's great to see.
And what a great journey, man.
I think it's going to be a lot of fun
with bridging,
with playing in the other side.
By the way,
update 1.3 just dropped,
I think.
Figgy shared that.
So there should be
a new Batum Blitz map, right?
So it's moving, it's moving.
How can people support you man right now?
Anything how people can help you?
Yeah, I think most people here probably have a Marscat,
so bridge it over, post that you've bridged it over.
And you know, just like and retweet some stuff.
And also, you know, if and retweet some stuff and and uh also you know if
we haven't uh chatted and stuff like let's you know let's get in dms and talk and see what we can
do uh together but um yeah that's really all you know all i need you know what i mean just uh some
support on the timeline and stuff and and uh and yeah that's that's pretty much it but yeah big
thanks to everybody here and um you
know so many of the people too they kind of attracted us to this chain obviously ryda and
amp the noise that they were making on the chains big hype as well um i saw also cool chick too she
was like an awesome um you know awesome spaces to go to when we were minting battle paws and it was
like you know super rough open sea kind of rugged us and we had toing Battle Paws and it was like, you know, super rough. OpenSea kind of rugged us
and we had to kind of make up and grind
for a few days to get it sold out.
You know, Cool Chick was definitely like an awesome
spaces to be at.
Like Agent, I'm seeing down there too.
But yeah, no, just like huge, huge thank you
to everybody that's already been,
you know, very, very supportive, right?
So yeah, no, just thanks everybody.
Thank you so much, Matt. And for me, spaces are
really the best alpha because timeline is crazy.
I don't know what happened with X, but spaces are always great.
I'm trying to go more to spaces as a listener.
I can talk anyway these days,
but listen to you guys
and you get the vibes
and you get the feel from the community
and I love it.
It's really cool to hear you
and see what you guys are cooking.
So big shout out to you, JB,
for actually bridging that collection to Ape Chain.
That's awesome.
Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, and if I can help out with you and for actually bridging that collection to Apechain. That's awesome. Thanks man, appreciate it.
Yeah, and if I can help out with you and anybody here, let me know.
And yeah, shout out to you too, you know what I mean?
Like when I reached out like many, many months ago, like, you know, this is ahead of Battle Paws.
No worries, it was on the show, like, you know, there was no issues whatsoever.
Super easy to coordinate, work with you.
And it was like that for like every, everybody that was running spaces on Apechain. On other chains,
it's not like that. Let me be very clear. It's not like that. So I could just tell you guys are
solid and you guys are good people. So yeah, just super happy to get a lot closer to you guys now and consider you guys friends and family too.
So it just feels good to get a lot closer.
100% man, love it. So many legends here on stage and in the audience guys.
Thank you so much for the support. Check JB's profile.
You will find more
info definitely give him a follow and yeah working on my voice guys is getting better or worse i don't
know but it keeps going which is great you know i can still talk uh so it's positive jb again good
luck congrats and maybe one more question when is the next activation? Whether it's in the other side or somewhere else?
Well, I mean, if you've at 2 p.m., I know it's going to be still in the middle of your spaces, but at 2 p.m.
we've got alternates in the Apechain Discord VC.
So that's like a FPS game, a bit like Bathroom Blitz.
They're cooking a lot of cool stuff. Dynasty, Sainted from Dominican Republic.
Awesome, awesome people people awesome dudes um and yeah just come out there if you guys want to
later tonight at 7 p.m eastern we've got our nifty island game night mars cats watch nifty
island game night and uh yeah there's lots of stuff on on fridays and obviously other games
too is gonna be dope uh this weekend Can't wait for some bathroom blitz
action, but yeah, you'll
find us everywhere.
Amazing, man. Thank you
so much for joining. And
guys, now it's time.
Thank you so much, man. Now it's time
to invite ApeChurch here.
There's probably Coco
behind the account, and we're going to be
talking about exciting stuff how
you doing man good good hey can you let up defy mark because i'm kind of sick still like you
it's just like hard for me to talk sorry we're both we're both two sick guys man
fuck what's going on man yeah oh my god i think he's down there it's spreading through the i don't
know man yeah bro probably i don't know what's going on.
Could you also let up Merc? Merc is down there as well.
Yeah, if Merc's not requested.
It's kind of bugging because I...
Yeah, I tried to bring a few more people but it didn't work.
So if you can request, I will try to bring you here.
Yeah, I think you need another...
Yeah.
Yeah, that's... that's also right hold on i'm here i made it what's up what's up what's up gm how's it going guys doing great what about you man
doing well doing well just uh busy hard at man, so much stuff to build, very excited
about what's coming up. I always appreciate the space, Grateful, you're always a great host.
Thank you so much. Guys, if you want, you can pin up the tweet from Ape Church or
that would be great. If you don't know how to do it i'll do it um in a bit but
put it up so people can see uh when uh how uh you know we gotta be talking about it don't worry guys
uh but it's really cool because we've been talking about and um hi was that you who actually
were you were pissed that i actually uh pronounced thatbo's, but I love that pronunciation. Guys, what's the correct one?
It's a Gimbos.
It's Gimbos, yes.
Jimbo's, man. I love it.
Like Jimbo, man.
Gimbos?
No, Jimbo's
will be the collection that
somebody will create afterwards.
Maybe somebody will clone Ape Church and create a clone collection called Jimbo.
Yeah, shit guys. Yeah, but I already booked domain and ETH address too, so you're probably late guys.
We also have Merck here. Merck, welcome here. How is it going for you?
Hey, what's going on, Grateful?
It's a pleasure. It's going good.
Just having a little connectivity issues.
What's going on, Jay? It's been a minute.
Like several years, actually, now.
Who?
Oh, Jay.
No, I think Jay is off playing a game on Discord, right?
No, I'm still here. I'm still here. What up, man? What up? No, thanks, man is off playing a game on Discord, right? No, I'm still here.
What up, man?
What up?
No, thanks, man.
Appreciate it, bro.
I thought JB went to his side hustle.
You know, those webcams are what you're doing, bro, from Canada.
Let's get down to it when is Mint?
Mint is on March 31st
there will be a
detailed tutorial for how to get ready
for the Mint coming out on Ape Church soon
the Mint site is going to be up
it's actually going to be inside of
ape.church
it's just going to be a page there you're not going to be able to miss it uh and for those of you that hate trying
to figure stuff out for yourself we're gonna have a detailed step-by-step tutorial for how to get
ready uh coming out soon but guys i okay maybe let's start with what gimbos are uh and then we
can quickly get into the the allow list and how to get because i saw on uh on a g thanks that you could get also
a whitelist there but that disappeared like everything there uh it's crazy rita what the
fuck you doing there man everything sold out everything i want is sold out immediately
yeah yeah but this one was crazy we had 100 gtd whitelist for gimbals and it sold out and
we actually set up a space and everything
and we had Merck there and he was
preparing a whole speech it sold out before
we even said we said
it's live and it sold out
those things are crazy
I've never seen anything like this
on ApeChain
the whitelist has a 500
plus
Ape floor right now on open c and these were
going for two dollars when they launched them on a trick yeah uh we sold them for five dollars
based on the two dollars and fifty cents that that was the price on the official price on a trick
yeah and just to kind of and they sold i'll, yeah, just kind of add a little bit to that.
The first set of them that were available in Ape Church were actually, you can only use your gimbal points, which is the cashback system that you get inside the Ape Church when you play the games.
Every time you wager one ape, you get back 10 GP.
wager one ape you get back 10 gp um and so you were anybody that was playing early days when
we went live back on november 30th uh your gp was building up there was very few things in the
beginning that you could use your gp on then we released those whitelist um in batches of 500 so
three batches of 500 got sold out pretty quickly and the last four months or so through that and 50 000 gp equivalent equivalates about 2.5 ape
25 ape yes 25 my bad yep so yeah they were they were going originally for about 25 ape worth of
value uh a lot of people had millions of gp too some people faded them some people some of our
core guys bought a bunch of them back then, and they're definitely happy now.
Well, one of our guys specifically sold like a third of his whitelists and has more than enough ape to mint the rest of his whitelists now. Because for the whitelist holders, the mint is guaranteed as long as you mint before the deadline.
And it is a reduced cost of $20, so around $200 per NFT for the whitelist mint.
So by playing his cards right and stacking up on the NFTs, which effectively feels free because the GP is just a bonus you get for playing.
There is a value attached to it if you use it because you can use it to open loot boxes that have apes.
So there's a way to assign a value to it.
But in general, pretty much just playing games, doing what you do anyway, people are able to assign a value to it but in general pretty much just playing
games doing what you do anyway if you were able to get a bunch of whitelists that way and that's
kind of our preferred game loop in a sense to reward the players or people who are on ape church
with the opportunity to mint things early and then of course sell it on the secondary for ape if they
want to something cool they do grateful on the on a i'm sure you've played and you've got some stuff
any of their loot boxes augments all this stuff that you can do is an actual nft so you can you
can uh you can win stuff and sell it on secondary they have a marketplace and uh you can sell it on OpenSea. So this is why I'm so bullish on it.
If these little NFTs are doing these kind of numbers,
imagine what the main NFT, the membership card NFT,
will actually do in the future.
Oh yeah, and we got a whole bunch of stuff planned for Gimbo's holders.
Not only will it impact your ability your experience on the site
unlock new areas of the site and boost your actual RTP so that reduces the house edge from owning
gimbos which is crazy I've never actually seen that done in practice so it's gonna be very
interesting to see how people utilize them setting up ways to earn passive income from your gimbo's
to take loans out against your gimimbos. The whole goal is to
pour as much as we can into these holders without of course
compromising any of the existing platform which is meant to be the most fair the most decentralized
peer-to-peer gaming platform
In the world honestly, I could I can almost safely say that I think when it comes to truly decentralized and peer-to-peer.
Without compromising any of those values, just giving new things people can do and new ways to earn is going to be important.
Because they're historic.
A little bit of tease.
I wish Honeybee was up here.
He could give you some of the lore he's been crafting for these guys.
He's been crafting for these guys, but they go back before the apes.
But they go back before the apes.
Why do you always mention Honeybee as soon as you talk about the height of these gimbos?
Just because we make them the same size.
The height of the gimbos is the same size.
Yeah, rumor is he was a live-action model for the gimbos.
We did.
No, it's not a rumor.
We did.
We did model him in 3D space and render on top of it.
You're not wrong.
They're little guys, but they're powerful, man.
There's a lot you can do with them.
We're very excited.
Honey B is a real-life Gimbo.
He is a Gimbo.
That's literally what they're modeled after.
Here's Honey B.
But yeah, there's a lot of lore coming for it.
There's a lot of utilities, a lot of things you can do with them.
But in general, they also just look badass thanks to Rita.
He fucking cooked on this like he always does.
Very happy to have him on the team and as a member of this side of it
team and as a member of this this side of it because this guy knows what he's doing
because this guy knows what he's doing.
yeah grateful if you see um mark has has the pfp version of the of the actual gimbal
um those will look sick as a pfp as well they will look sick as avatars and they have a shit
load of stuff coming to the avatars as well like wearables
and stuff like that and it's all connected to gameplay on apetrick yep you're gonna be able
to do a lot to your game mode too not just give them different clothings but also augment him to
give him different powers in the game when i say powers i don't mean superficial random game powers
but actual ways to earn more whether it's
boosting your referral rate increasing your GP as I the amount that you earn
so increasing your cash back and a bunch of other mechanisms like that
they're also using your favorite ERC standard grateful in some of their stuff
not the gimbals themselves but in some of their stuff, not the gimbals themselves, but in some of their stuff.
Yeah, they wanted every NFT has its own wallet, right?
Yeah, they're not doing it exactly like that,
but they're doing something very similar, and it uses that technology. Well, yes, it is doing that effectively.
I was reading into that standard a lot, and it's pretty interesting.
It's very easy to wrap your head around, too.
It just creates a smart wallet, and you can define or create your own smart wallet with your own set of rules if you want.
And you can also define how these assets work within their smart wallet.
So a lot of people do it for wearables.
They'll create slot and inventory IDs.
But you can really go above that and beyond that, and you can add a whole bunch of stuff. The beautiful thing about it is you don't really need to build it into the
contract of the NFT. Considering it's based on NFT token ID, it can be auxiliary. It can be a
separate contract and only the owner of that token ID is able to interact with the contract. So you
don't even just need one. You could have several different wallets per NFT for the various use cases you might need.
So we're setting them up in a few different ways so that we can maximize on it without needing to bog down the actual NFT contract itself with all this data.
Because it's already quite large with some things you need to do within the Gimbos, like adding augments to it and stuff.
So that's going to take priority in the Gimbos contract.
But there's not just the wearables coming out with this mechanism.
I've been looking into the code a lot, and I really like what you can do with it.
It makes it pretty cool.
So I have a few other ideas, including some form of RPG games
or fun things you could do with that.
I think it's pretty cool tech.
It's pretty cool tech.
I'm glad they made a standard for it.
I'm glad they made a standard for it.
But you said that if I have gimbals,
basically it will make it easier to win.
Is that correct?
Not necessarily.
It will increase your RTP.
So playing games on Ape Church,
it gives you a cashback mechanism right now
of about half a percent.
So if you wager a thousand dollars,
you'll get five dollars back in Ape, whether you win or lose. Since Ape Church as a platform does
not profit when you lose, because anyone's the house, you know, it's fully peer-to-peer in that
way. The only way to give cash back in this platform is based on volume. So if you play,
it doesn't matter, you could win every single game as you wager that $1,000, or you could lose them all. The result is the same. You'll still get $5 of GP back as credits.
And that GP is what is used to fuel the in-game economy, pretty much.
The whole loot store, everything is purchasable with GP, and you can resell whatever you buy for Ape if you want to.
Or you can just open them if you buy loot boxes and stuff.
So what gimbals are going to do is they're going to increase that cash back. So if you have 0.5%
cash back on average, sometimes we do double GP where that's 1%. Owning a bunch of Gimbos will
actually increase this percentage of cash back that you get. If you own enough Gimbos, you could
have permanent double GP, which increases the RTP of you, the player, by 0.5%.
So if you're playing a game that normally
has a 99%
RTP or a 1% house edge,
you could actually effectively
get a 100% RTP or a 0%
house edge by owning enough gimbos
for a game like that.
That's awesome, man.
That's awesome. 31stst that's around the corner
I love it Coco you also mentioned that it's your
first NFT mint so
how do you feel
I'm pulling out all the stops
I'm asking favors of all my homies
that I've known for a long time in the industry to come
mint
DMing a lot of people
a lot of guys that
i've supported in the past so you know if i'm gonna do it i'm gonna try to do it right so
i really been kind of you know i'm gonna i'm gonna get on my everyone knows i'm pretty good
at shilling i i've never shilled an nft except for board apes and mutant apes and g's probably
um but i'm gonna shill the hell out of this and i'm gonna i'm gonna be loud and i'll
be on the timeline and yeah i just hope that a lot of people that i've known for a long time
will come over and support maybe they're not on ape chain maybe they're from some different
ecosystems that i've worked with and uh hopefully they can kind of get inter introduced into the
ape chain ecosystem as well so like that's why that's the way I look at this is like, I think it'll be a great liquidity event for, um, for ape chain as a whole. And, um, you know,
our, our protocol is that I think one of the things too is like for, for somebody that's
not really familiar with ape chain is like, um, the fact that we built the protocol first and we
took our time and now we've kind of built it up. So we basically have all these things that, um,
it gives us a lot
of flexibility and we're very agile with what we can do and we can we can add value like immediately
to the nfts right so that's really cool and then obviously we have the stats to back it up
we have revenue uh week over week so that's also very um very bullish for for a pro any type of
asset right like i mean look at hyper liquid there's a reason they're doing so well right nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo nebo Also, guys, I put some ApeCoin to house in ApeChurch and it works really well so far.
Coco, could you tell us a little bit more if people also want to, you call it stake or deposit the money into house and they can get some yields on that?
Yeah, so it's pretty cool um it's basically like
like if you just kind of like strip everything away what ape church really is is a liquidity
layer for games of chance um and that's basically the coolest thing about it is anybody can come
and deposit um and be the house they don't even have to play on it and they can actually help the
ecosystem um because they're providing liquidity we can give out bigger jackpots. It just works really well. So yeah, if you have some ApeCoin, I think it's up
like 75% since we launched. So if you would have staked at the beginning, you would have
almost doubled your ApeCoin if you would have just stuck it in there and parked it in there.
So a lot of guys are happy about that. And as we scale, I'm sure that'll go up because
the house obviously always has a little bit of an edge
because that's how any kind of games of chance work
for them to be sustainable.
So yeah, easy.
You just go deposit whatever crypto you want
and then it's literally one click
and you can just deposit your ApeCoin
and you can get a piece of all the action
of every single game played.
You can basically be the house.
That's one of the coolest things about the platform.
Yeah, I did it quite early after your launch,
and it's really cool to see that.
Also, you as a protocol, now you have an NFT collection with Avatars,
we have other side.
What kind of events or experiences do you plan for holders?
Yeah, so we're doing, I think we're sponsoring in other games this weekend.
I believe, I know Honeybee told me, we're going to have some GTDs for the other games, I believe.
And maybe we'll throw some Ape in there too. Right now, we're just raising awareness for the other games, I believe. And maybe we'll throw some Ape in there too.
Right now, we're just raising awareness for the Mint.
We've still got close to two weeks before the Mint.
So final week, we're really going to ramp up the marketing efforts.
But right now, we're just really trying to raise awareness
for everyone on Ape Chain,
because obviously we want to look after the people that...
You got to look after your home base first and foremost.
So we're just raising a lot of awareness on ApeChain and kind of in the community that's close to us,
that's been with us for the whole time since we launched. And, you know, starting, I guess,
starting, you know, towards the end of this week, you're going to see us kind of branching out to
some other ecosystems as well to try to onboard them. And then, yeah, just, we're just going to
go hard hard
as we possibly can and hopefully have a good mint you know i mean rita's been helping a lot connecting
us with a lot of people um shit we've our our requests for collabs there's like i've i've never
seen anything like it bro it's it's silly so we're we're we're hoping that it does really well i'm
hoping the market doesn't take a you know no nuke on me right before the mint so i'm hoping that it does really well. I'm hoping the market doesn't take a nuke on me right before the mint.
So I'm hoping that we're in good marketing conditions.
But regardless.
What do you care about marketing conditions?
I want there to be bullish conditions.
I want there to be bullish conditions when we mint.
But the people that paid and got those whitelists are going to mint.
that paid uh and got those uh whitelists are going to oh for sure to mint um everybody understands
Oh, for sure.
how nfts even if it's people that are flipping uh this is a protocol that will be buying back
nfts from the floor to give back as prizes and yes back as loot boxes and stuff like that so if
you want to see a floor pump this is going to be automatic pump not anything
enough anything fake or in the back rooms or anything this is going to be done in public
for the sweeps to be going back into prizes for yeah i i think i think it has a lot of runway
um and if people understand that um they'll that's why i've been pushing you guys to get
on spaces so people understand the little
different things happening. Yeah, we're gonna definitely
like, Mark can maybe speak on that
but like that's one of our main things that we want to do
is we definitely want to
at the end of the day like the protocol is
the heart of
Ape Church and the Gimbos are like the
keepers of the church, basically our
membership pass to be able
to reap all the different benefits of the church, basically our membership pass to be able to reap all the different benefits
of the protocol.
So like it's, you know, we would be,
I don't want to like give all the details
because we have an article coming out
that is going to run through all the details,
but the whole goal is to add
as much possible value to the NFTs.
Like that's, we wouldn't be doing an NFT collection if we weren't trying to add as much possible value to the NFTs. We wouldn't be doing an NFT collection
if we weren't trying to add as much value as possible
to them through the protocol.
I'll just say that.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I think it's great to have a protocol
and then releasing NFTs, right?
Because as you mentioned,
you already have something in your hands that works
and that you can utilize for for nft holders
and make the experience better uh i really like the g bank and g tanks and peanuts like that's
that's really interesting way how to interact and basically you are interacting on your own
platform so you don't need to be worry about open sea magic eden disappearing etc etc right yeah yeah that's one
thing that and you know because originally we were going to do like a mint somewhere else and
then we just thought about it and we're like well we're planning on doing everything on our our
protocol so like we're just like let's just do the mint there because literally you could go mint
and then you don't even have to like move your nft or anything like if you want to sell it you can
sell it in our marketplace right there.
And then obviously the mint page after we're done with the mint, it's going to turn into
where you customize and do all your different things with your gimbal and you can see what
it does for the gimbal and the different augments and things like that.
So basically we want to just keep it in-house within the protocol and just really add value that way.
And then obviously, at the end of the day,
that's going to help us get a lot more users to Ape Church.
I think we have 33,200 active users right now.
So we're pretty proud of that.
And we plan on scaling that.
So yeah, it should be cool.
So it's not only like launchpad for mint but it's gonna be also the place where you can trade your nfts right yeah i mean mark can kind of touch on
how the plans for that yeah absolutely so yeah we do have a marketplace built into apechurch
which uh you'll be able to um of course buy and sell your gimbos on probably see some more in-depth
information on the gimbal such as live updating wearables slash what's it called augments and
everything so it'll probably be safer if you're trying to buy a specific gimbal because with
openc you know sometimes they don't refetch the metadata as often. So that's the case with all mints nowadays with wearables and augments and stuff.
So the Ape Church marketplace is going to be great
if you want to see in-depth on-chain data about the gimbal before you buy it.
Otherwise, of course, all other marketplaces are fine and supported,
but we do have that marketplace built into the platform for that reason.
It's specifically for in-game assets like Gimbos and others but that'll definitely be in there day one.
Love it, love it. And so guys if anyone want to get on that whitelist right now,
is there still a chance, is there still a way how to do that?
They're pretty much... I'm the whitelist enforcer. I swear if the only way they're pretty much i'm the what i'm the whitelist i'm the whitelist enforcer i swear if
the only way they're giving out gtd is if they sweep the floor and give away from the floor
yeah we're pretty much out of whitelist uh gtds right now uh for partners but but if you have a
community if you have a community that wants to get on there reach out to sneaks he's their
community manager and he'll hook you up.
He'll hook up your community with First Come, First Serve, Whitelist, Allow List.
Yeah, guys, we talked about a few spots for listeners today.
Is that still a thing, guys?
I got a couple.
I'll hook one up.
Yeah, we can do a giveaway today. We got a good round of people here. We got a couple. I'll hook one up. Yeah, we can do a giveaway today.
We got a good round of people in here.
We got 85 people.
Yeah, I'll do a giveaway.
I don't know how you want to pick it.
I'll let you pick it, Grateful.
I can go from retweets,
but guys, also follow Ape Church.
Follow Ape Church and post your account your a church account in the
comment how about have them retweet the mint the mint tweet that's yeah whatever you want and you
can pick it up yeah okay so whoever wants it how are you gonna pick up wait just wait uh coco because
uh because you need the the username so you can send okay i got a good yeah they definitely need
a they definitely need to go to ape.church at their account because with inside the church we can search your name whenever we send these
nfts you can click on you can click on anything in your uh my item section uh so you click on it
and you can click send and when you click send it pulls a list of everybody in the in the platform
and so if you're in there and you connected your x it's very easy for us to find you and send you
and then you'll get a little notification that pops up on your side that
says you know just merc sent you a whitelist or coco sent you a whitelist so make sure you guys
are in the in the platform yeah okay so you got to be in the platform and then post a screenshot
of your account in the blue pill you want to do it like that yeah you can pick it from the comments yeah
sure post a screenshot of your dashboard yeah and follow us yep and if you look at the uh if you look
at the dashboard and you don't see you just see a wallet you need to connect your ex uh so it'll
actually show your your profile just a lot easier for us
to make sure that we're dealing with the right person and not not a scammer trying to collect
yep guys do it another cool thing within within uh he just mentioned something uh
murt just mentioned something very simple he just went through it within the a church uh platform
you can communicate with
other players you can play with other players you can do multiplayer with other players
so they do have a discord but they also have a built-in messaging system within within the
platform yeah and mark found a way to make it encrypted end-to-end so um you guys can because
all of our stuff is on
chain right so before if you were to send a message if i were sending grateful a message
someone could go to ape scan and see what that message was even if they couldn't see the
interface on my end but now it's encrypted end-to-end so it still shows up on chain but
it shows up encrypted so people can't read what your messages are so we have some pretty cool
stuff that uh you probably won't see in other protocols.
Yep, and the way to decrypt it is to sign with your wallet. So it's encrypted via your
public key and it's decrypted via your private key. So as long as you know, your messages
are safe unless you click on scam links or someone gets control of your wallet. It's
pretty nice.
Rida, after all the messages that Rida sent me there, like I really hope he's not someone gets control of your wallet. It's pretty nice.
After all the messages that Rita sent me there,
I really hope he's not going to click on any scam links, man.
No, you can send me your
seed phrase now. It's encrypted
end-to-end, grateful. Don't worry about it.
And seed picks are the only
images you're allowed to set.
Rita's plans for world domination
would, in fact, see the
light of day if he does click on
a scam link.
Yeah, so March 31st,
GTD are minting for $20.
No, $50 right now.
$20.
No, no, no.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Sorry, sorry.
I thought you were talking about
grabbing them off the floor.
Like, it's $50 to grab them off the floor
if you want one.
No, no.
Mint is $20 for GTD
and $30 for first come, first serve.
Yeah, and the reason why,
like, I tried to figure out, like,
why they're going for so much,
and I realized why they're going for $ bucks right now is because the only way you can
mint as many as you want is if you have the whitelist.
So like if you bought 50 whitelists, you could mint 50 of them at the lowest possible price.
Right.
So that's why the floor has risen because there's people that want to just just mint like a nice amount so then that's
caused people to buy them in bulk so that's the reason why the floor price of the the it's more
like a convenience thing right like people are just willing to pay um like i guess it would be
like a convenience fee to know that they're going to be able to mint you know 30 gimbos um so i
think like a lot of some of the whales probably like that too.
But there is also going to be a low list as well after the whitelist phase.
So we're hoping that it, you know, it sells out day one.
And after that, you know, we can really get to work.
So it should be good.
I'm excited.
Yeah, it's exciting for sure, man.
Good luck with the mint.
There's still plenty of time, guys,
so try to get on that
aloe list. I think that's the alpha 100%.
There are a few ways you can buy.
You can comment
your profile
in this space and you have a chance
to win that one.
And yeah, anything else you would love to share?
You know, I think you...
Still like 12 days, right?
So still like plenty of time.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, you know,
if you want to stay really close to the Mint,
like so you get all the details fast,
definitely go on our Discord.
We have a really super active community in there.
We do tons of giveaways in the Discord for our day one communities
and our people that participate in the Discord.
Last night, I think I gave away four or five loot boxes worth $408.
We sit there and we live stream and we play games together
and we chat and we talk about different things.
And we're constantly giving away loot boxes inside our Discord.
But we're not going to like publicize that on X, right?
So like if you want to, you know, really participate, join us in our Discord and you'll get all the news like right away, fast.
Also, guys, if you have a community or project, you can build your own games on ape church so
yeah i think that's really that's really dope utility right yeah that's that's also another
thing is we've onboarded i think we have three or four ips that we've onboarded already you know
right now we have 25 games the plan is to scale scale that to triple digits by the end of the year.
So that's a big part of our growth plans is onboarding IP into Ape Church.
So anybody that has a project, definitely reach out.
I mean, we do have kind of a backlog of games that are coming, but if you want to do it, now is the best time to reach out because the um the list is definitely getting
longer and um you know we that is something that we're actively working on that's always going to
be like our focus is to onboard ip and and grow it out um and basically work with other communities
and it's cool because you can do trustless rev share if you have your own ip in in uh ape church
every time someone plays one of your games you automatically you don't even have to chase us
down or anything it just goes straight to your wallet, so the fees from it.
So it's a really good revenue source.
Ask Balloons, they're loving it.
So I know Rita's using it as well for the staking rewards for Gs.
We plan on doing a bunch more games with Gs as well.
So yeah, there's just a ton of ways that you can interact.
Even if you're not a type of person that likes to gamble or play,
there's other ways that you can participate and be part of the ecosystem.
Definitely, everybody's welcome.
ApeChain is our home, so we definitely favor the people on ApeChain, first and foremost.
Yeah, I was going to say real quick too on that note,
maybe we'll have to create an article about this too,
and some people have found it already. But for those of you guys who are interested in games if you go to our
doc section we have a very uh well written um section for building games that literally will
walk you through vibe coding your first game setting up your agent everything i mean we've
already did a lot of the the the crazy groundwork all the way down to creating
a skill document that you can give your agent to go. And there's actually a few games on the
platform that I vibe coded myself and Mark obviously took it to completion, but I'm not a
technical person and it's possible. So we've taken all that into account in our doc section and try
to make it as simple as possible for everybody so
take some time to take a look at that
if you have any questions open up a discord ticket
let's go I was just getting
a loot box so I feel something
so let's see guys
oh shit almost 28
but it was 28.
But love it.
I opened so many good boxes, guys.
How was it almost 28?
It was 28.
You know, it was 20.
It was 20 and then it spin to 2, you know.
Those bronze boxes, man, they're deceptive.
The actual expected value of them is only five.
So getting anything over five is a win on a bronze box.
Oh, yeah.
I don't, like, for bronze boxes...
Get one of the good ones.
Get one of the good boxes.
Why are you getting bronze?
Yeah, get the good one.
But hey, Rita, send him some.
My favorite are the scratch cards.
Mark has a bunch that he can send you
i don't know i think uh instead of letting him into the space like for free you sort of ask for
loot boxes or something great that's true hey mark while while we're on space and i got you
on record here when are you going to add some more scratch cards man the other ones in there
are sold out those are my favorite are they sold out yeah i prefer scratch cards over loot boxes
but i like
the experience of actually you know scratching it instead of waiting for the thing to spin i
like to scratch and try to put the luck in my own hands it is pretty fun man i do love them i gotta
yeah i guess we gotta increase those supply there's no real reason they're sold out i just didn't
expect yeah people bought thousands of them i guess why merc let him just work on gimbals for now let him just finish other stuff stop stop
don't do anything just finish gimbals just so you know uh before we get off here to make sure if you
guys want to get that that whitelist which is going for around 508 make sure you share a screenshot of
your account in the pill because there's about one two three four five only about five people so like
i mean if you like if you like free money, go do that right now.
No, the others don't like free money.
What's wrong with you?
And if you don't do it, guys, I will get those, you know, MFs.
Yeah, I'll just give it to Grateful if they don't do it.
Yeah, guys, do it.
That's the all-foundry percent.
And, you know, that's the thing why I love hosting builders here
because we need to grow this space.
We need to grow an ape chain and we need to grow the pie, right?
Like we don't want to be like PVP shit.
And having a cool project that people can use and have fun,
that's the way how to do that.
So that's why I love it, guys.
And big shout to you.
Good luck with the mint
yeah i'm still i'm still over here bro sick man what the hell is going on man dude i'm not feeling
great me and you are both in the same boat brother yeah yeah uh i hope this gets better soon but is
there anything else that you'd love to share or that i forgot to ask you no man i mean you've
always been such a gracious host helping us like spread the word and
raise awareness.
So like we said,
man,
you're,
you're an awesome host.
So let's appreciate you as always,
man.
And,
there's one thing they missed.
They're going to be on,
welcome to the clubhouse,
with Baron and Illa.
Oh yeah. Yeah. Tonight we'll be, we'll be in the clubhouse talking about it Illa. Oh, yeah, yeah, tonight.
We'll be in the clubhouse talking about it if you guys want to come through.
Any apes.
He's giving away another GTV.
Yeah, we'll be giving.
We have a certain amount that we're just giving away as promotion to, like,
hook people up.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Again, the enforcer is here.
You're supposed to be sweeping and giving them away.
I've been sweeping, bro. What are you talking about? Rita just wants me to keep sweeping.
Because Mark keeps on fucking buying from the Ape Church Marketplace. This is not what we...
Oh, you want me to sweep them from OpenSea? I did. What are you talking about?
I just swept like 10 of them the other day when we were on Spaces.
of them the other day when we were on spaces
right he wasn't
He wasn't... Jeez.
geez
hey rita
you sold like
a hundred of them for like five bucks a pop
i think you could you could probably get quite a few
of them off the floor
bro i sent
all of that back to the
honestly sweeping
them from ape church
though is not bad either all that creates is an arbitrage opportunity someone can buy them from Ape Church, though, is not bad either.
All that creates is an arbitrage opportunity.
Someone can buy them from OpenSea and move them over to Ape Church.
They're sweeping for hire on Ape Church right now.
I currently have one I'm willing to give away.
Before Mint, I will be buying my whitelists.
But yeah, up to then, I'm not sweeping sweeping Coco and Mark are supposed to be sweeping
Man, those whitelists are so
so limited and valuable now
it's crazy
everyone's been asking us for some
wanting a good batch of them
and the supply is just dwindling
of the available ones
they have great supply supply distribution already,
which is crazy because it's not even the real NFT yet.
Yeah, but it's good though.
It's kind of cool because it creates a market
before the actual market.
So it just like helps with the interest
and raising awareness and stuff.
And it gives us like,
it's also a very good marketing tool
to be able to, you know get more eyes on it so
we're just gonna keep uh doing stuff like you know trying to you know get it raise as much
awareness as possible and you know we only got how many days we got like 12 days or something
so it's coming up fast um so yeah we're excited man hope everyone participates like we're looking forward to it
let's go guys good luck with the mint uh also as coco mentioned go to the meet at the clubhouse today uh i'll be there in the other side and you can
learn more there win the the allolist and yeah thank you so
much for joining thanks brother i appreciate it we actually have to go to
a team meeting in five minutes so we're gonna have to jump off in a sec but i appreciate you giving us a perfect timing
thank you so much grateful man appreciate you brother thank you so much guys for joining
good luck again uh let's fucking go
awesome i really enjoyed it guys uh i see i want to say i see Hype is back but he's down again. I don't know what's going on.
Uncle Mac join us here. Uncle Mac welcome here. How are you doing?
GM grateful. Well, you're in the right part of the world so we'll say actually good evening.
Fuck this GMs for the Americans. How are you feeling? Are you better? I'm feeling like, yeah, it's wild.
But it's gonna be okay. Good. I'm glad you're feeling better.
Thanks for having me on the stage. I don't really have much today. I'm just coming
in. I'm just, what's the word? Loitering or engagement farming
I'm doing all those things. Love it. Yeah, we have
a test for AI farming bots.
So maybe I can give you the question that we came up with Squiddy.
So in which city actually play Detroit Pistons?
That would be Piston City, right?
That's the answer.
Prague?
Damn, Rita, come on.
Let him answer that yeah it's prog
no one answered that correctly
so yeah Rita is the first one
that's the test though right
if they answer it correctly they must be the bot
so you've got to have some
critical thinking to go
I'm gonna give a stupid answer here
exactly that that's the alpha, guys.
But we have Simple Farmer here.
Simple Farmer, it's crazy, but it's been four years.
And ApeCoin is free right now.
So how does it feel?
Yeah, it's making me feel like I created the coin.
It feels great.
It feels great.
Absolutely.
No, but BroBot, you have that logo there by your name.
So I was like...
No, I mean, I think with ApeCoin, it's been important for a long time
to change up the tokenomics structure.
I mean, that was naturally set in place with the four-year timeline and
unlocks. But you know, this is not a different pattern than most large tokens have used. And
I think it's now a great point to grow from as we continue to develop all of the utilities and
economic loops for ApeCoin. So yeah, definitely bullish. Taking bottom here. I've been purchasing
a bit of ApeCoin myself personally over the past couple days.
Let's go. It's crazy that it's been four years.
I remember the launch and everything back in the day.
Oh my God, time really flies. It's absolutely wild.
And yeah, we're going to be talking about your new platform and we're going to be talking also guys about the new mint it's going to be free
mint so we're going to learn how you can get those incredible and now i forgot a name it's
not clutch puppies but it's a clutch something smaller than puppies right so it's a yeah they're
pixel pups pixel pups that's the one love it love it now i have it here um man you've been
building so many things so uh let's get into it uh you recently launched uh and i hope i pronounce
it correctly anvil uh is that correct yes i mean it hasn't gone live i've been building in public
and uh teasing it on the timeline but it will be going live very soon. Okay, so I thought it's already live. Perfect.
Could you tell us a little bit more? What is it about, man?
What was the idea and what kind of problem it solves?
Of course. Yeah, I think what's really important
and one of the main issues with NFTs as a whole
is that they're largely illiquid and that creates a lot of problems
and it makes it really difficult to create good economic loops for NFTs as a whole is that they're largely illiquid and that creates a lot of problems and it
makes it really difficult to create good economic loops for NFTs as a whole.
One of the cleanest ways to get past that is fractionalizing NFTs into ERC-20 tokens.
And, you know, obviously we've seen when NFTs are paired with tokens, short term you saw
some good things with NFT strategy.
And long term, other NFT AMMs have performed really well.
But it's really about creating these better solutions to boost the liquidity in the floors
and the utility of those NFTs. You know, I think one of the core issues and why we haven't seen
much of the run up that we saw in 2021 is because of this. It's really difficult to get people to
invest large amounts of money in something that's super illiquid.
If you know you're buying something for $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, $30,000, and you're not sure if you can get that back, if 100 other people also sell, that becomes a more difficult pill to swallow, essentially.
And so the way to do that is actually bootstrapping DeFi into the collections in
various ways. And one of the best ways to do that is to pair them with a token. Now, when I first
started developing crypto in 2022, I worked with a colleague called OXMons. His name is Owen. He
was the founder of Pseudoswap. So Pseudoswap was an NFT AMM marketplace. And we built on a chain
called Sanko Chain and on Arbitrum One. And they had developed
a structure where they had liquidity pools set up for NFTs. And so the way these pools worked is
that you can deposit tokens and NFTs. And they work just like token liquidity pools. NFTs can
be bought and sold or swapped for within the pool. There's a fee assessed within the swap structure.
bought and sold or swapped for within the pool. There's a fee assessed within the swap structure.
And, you know, those fees benefit those communities in giving them revenue that they can tap into via
staking. And so they were kind enough to share the smart contracts from PseudoSwap with me.
And so I've been developing based on those contracts, based on a lot of good things I've
seen in the space that work really well to try to improve and create a larger model for everybody
who has a collection on ApeChain to tap into.
So we're highly focused on, obviously,
decentralized financial infrastructure and crypto.
And I'm focused on developing AI infrastructure at this time
and NFT infrastructure.
And that's what the Anvil is.
Anvils create tools, essentially.
And so that's why the Anvil is. Anvils create tools, essentially. And so that's
why it's named this. And so when it goes live, if you have a collection on ApeChain, you'll be able
to use the Anvil because the Anvil is what's called a factory contract. It is a smart contract
factory where you'll plug in your NFT's contract address. You'll set the rate for tokens to NFTs,
and you'll set the fees.
And you'll also optionally be able to enable governance
for your collection and its corresponding token.
So this is important because what you've created here then
is kind of a mini DAO system.
And it's not a DAO in the classical system like the ApeCoin DAO
where people vote on what to spend tokens on.
It's a DAO where people actually vote
to decide what the fee
structure for their AMM looks like. And so those fees benefit their staking directly. And so that's
why it's really important for, I think, community members to be able to participate in that way via
staking tokens as well. So you have NFT staking, token staking, lending, and swapping as well
through those pools.
And so it's something I'm really looking forward to launch.
I'd be glad to open the floor for any questions before I continue.
I feel like it's a lot.
Yeah, no, simple.
I just have one question.
That's such a great idea.
What made you think of that and start going in that way?
Yeah, I mean, I think when we look at the success of meme coins,
for example, on Solana,
they started to really explode when people created infrastructure to make meme coin deployment super easy and permissionless for users who don't have any experience in smart
contracts. At that point, sorry, it's my kid in the background. At that point, the meme coin
economy actually improved a lot. Another thing that we deployed with Clutch
Markets originally was like a decentralized house model. And so what we found is that an NFT
community connected to a revenue source becomes a decentralized marketing source as well because
they're incentivized to market the platform, right? Because they have a financial incentive
that they profit every time people use the platform. Now if we continue to build upon that infrastructure, if we can tap into things
where we earn NFTs at DRC20s, you know that expands those capabilities.
Oh, DeFi dropped.
So I don't know, man.
X is crazy these days.
I try to invite a few people on stage.
It didn't work.
Then they drop.
I don't know what's going on with that.
Can you guys hear me?
Everything's good on my end?
Yes, sir.
Light on clear.
Amazing.
So you mentioned that every collection on Ape Chain
can actually use your platform.
Can also ETH collections or collections on other chains can use that?
Yeah, absolutely.
So we'll be bringing Anvil over to ETH as well next week
at the same time that PixelPup's Mint happens.
It's a free mint.
And the free mint itself is going
to be bootstrapped to an end to a token on each domain that is an erc20 so it'll be a unique and
free nft mint that's paired with a token that's starting out essentially at a you know thousand
dollar or lower market cap so it'll be interesting to see a a token launch paired with a with an nft
launch at the same time and kind of experimental in nature, seeing how that performs.
Hopefully we see good arbitrage loops between the NFT and the token itself.
Man, are you in touch with a few
collections that actually will join from
the beginning when you launch it? Because it's got to be really
interesting to see that, man.
I love all these new services
that you can utilize your collection, your NFTs,
and you can bring more to your holders.
So are you in touch with some Apechain collections already?
Yeah, absolutely.
Quite a few have reached out.
We'll keep their names private just for, you know,
I think it's their choice when they want to announce
if they want to use the Anvil or not.
It'll be permissionless.
The Clutch Poppies will be the first collection live on there.
So we're willing to experiment with the Clutch collection.
But then, you know, anybody can join.
And if people want to wait and see how that performs, they can do so.
Of course, the most critical aspect is the initial launch of those tokens, making sure you pair it with ample liquidity.
Because that will essentially create a significantly stronger floor
on your collection.
Yeah, that was my upcoming question about the clutch puppy.
So those are going to be the first one.
Do you have a timeline when it's going to happen?
Yeah, so the Pixel Pups Mint is next Monday.
B-A-Y-C, M-A-Y MAYC, CODAS are all whitelisted for that.
And it's going to be completely free, so you just got to pay gas on ETH mainnet.
When that goes live on ETH mainnet, we will also go live on ApeChain shortly after with the ClutchPuppies token.
And then there maybe will be a possibility that the PixelPups and the Clutch Puppies will be connected via a singular token
that is bridgeable between ETH Mainnet and Ape Chain.
And my intended goal there is to hopefully attract some liquidity from ETH Mainnet.
What's your main goal with the platform?
I mean, in a long-term goal,
what would you love to achieve with that, man?
Yeah, the main goal is growing the pie.
The main goal is giving people more levers that they can pull, right?
So if you have multiple strategies, if you want to do things with your NFT
that involve games of chance, like Ape Church is doing,
if you want to do things with your NFTs involving staking in DeFi,
you'll have that via the anvil.
I think it's really good that we give people as many choices as possible.
If they were the home of NFTs, we should have the best technology for NFTs.
That technology shouldn't be gatekept.
It should be free for anybody to access.
Yeah, that makes 100% sense man
GSP JBD if you have any questions
you can go ahead I will also go through the comments
I 100% have one question ready but if you want to hop in
go ahead guys
if not it's all good
my question is simple.
If I have a collection on ApeChain
and I want to use Anvil,
what is the process?
How can I start?
Do I have to DM you
or I just joined the platform
and it will guide me step by step?
Yeah, it's not dissimilar
to launching a token on FunFun.
You have a little dashboard where you'll input your collection address,
you'll set up your tokenomics, you'll deploy,
and then it'll give you clear instructions on how to set up your first liquidity pool on Camelot.
Please say I've reached out to Camelot,
and similar to the support they were able to give to Gs and Peanuts at launch,
they will be incentivizing LP pools for the first three
collections that deploy on the Anvil, which is nice. Incentivized LP means that more people will
provide liquidity and that'll mean that those NFT collections are stronger because essentially
liquidity providers are earning revenue and that liquidity is boosting the floor and beating out
arbitrage bots and flipper bots for the most part. But not getting rid of them completely because sometimes their volume is very productive.
Now, the additional layer here is that people think about as NFT communities,
NFT creators, royalties are super important.
And so with royalties, I think a lot of marketplaces thought that
if they get rid of royalties, that volume will boost.
But I think what they found is that volume went down because creators had less funds
to work with.
And then those communities faded slowly.
And so this is about boosting royalty loops.
And then, you know, obviously, if people are interested in still sharing those royalties
to the community, you have beautiful systems like the Divot that's being created by the
team at Unvault, who's also doing permissionless NFTs.
And so I think all of these technologies work really well together.
And like I said, it's just a choice for anybody to be able to deploy if they want to.
So after the user deploys the token for their collection,
they'll also be able to add their logo of their NFT.
They'll be able to add their token logo.
They can add their social links, so you'll get a dedicated page for all your contracts and you can click a single button
and sign a wallet signature to get all your contracts verified at that time as well.
And then at that point, people can start trading your token, buying and selling it on Camelot.
People can swap in and out of the NFT pools. People can snipe specific NFTs from those pools for an additional fee.
People can borrow on the NFT up to 5% of the token supply.
And there's one key part of this process is that
the liquidation of those NFTs isn't automated.
So there's no bot running to liquidate those NFTs.
It's something that has to be done by people who hold the NFT of that community.
And so that brings forth community engagement and you receive a bounty for liquidating.
So essentially you receive a bounty for coming through and clicking a button that says liquidate
and the creator of the election protocol can essentially set those fees.
The final layer is governance.
And I think the governance is really fun because it's only enabled by staking the token. And with governance, three users per month can take the role of the governor
and set forth proposals on what the fees should be for borrowing,
for liquidation, and for swaps.
And if their proposal passes, they have to have at least 5% of the total tokens
in supply in the vote for it to pass at all.
But if it passes, then those fees are automatically updated per their proposal.
So then the communities can kind of talk about what they want to do, what they
want to do with their AMM, how they want it to work. And since all these contracts are
on-chain, you get all your contract addresses that are fully verified. People can easily
bootstrap the contracts to their own front end, to their own website, making the ANVL
useful through their website.
That's really interesting mechanism, man.
Yeah, the best way is probably after you launch it,
to have a hands-on
and check it out how it works.
When should the project make...
When is the time for the project
to actually make the decision and say,
hey, we should do that?
Is it for them more like an experiment to see,
or how do you market it towards the projects?
Because we probably know all the projects on ApeChain, right?
And I'm thinking, who do you think is the right one to start using it right away?
I mean, that's a good question.
I don't want to put recommendations towards anybody
who's not comfortable with doing something like this.
I still think, you know, just like having an NFT collection,
having a token that corresponds to that NFT collection is work.
You still have to market.
You still have to create economic loops.
You have to find ways to get the word out.
And most importantly, you have to provide liquidity at the start. So I would say people need to make sure they have at least a couple thousand dollars
ready in liquidity to bootstrap to their collection and their NFT AMM token. And then after that,
I would recommend that people think about, talk to their communities, ask them if that's something
they want to do. And especially if you have a significant problem with arbitrage bots,
I'm sorry, flipper bots on NFT marketplaces, this is kind of a great way to weed that out.
Even if your token doesn't get a ton of regular trading volume, arbitrage trading volume is
virtually guaranteed. Yeah, that was my first man. They always list the NFT for like, I don't know, 0.01 cheaper, man.
It's crazy, man.
Yeah, it's really interesting.
I cannot wait to see the first collections using it.
Basically, it's got to be, for me, it's got to be Clutch Puppies, right?
So I will be able to test it out as a user there.
Did you say
when you're planning to launch,
you said Monday is the free mint
and the date to
launch Anvil?
Yeah, it'll be shortly after that. So it's all going to come through
at the same time and I'm trying to do
a little bit of a cross-chain DeFi hack
and then seeing
a trick that I saw work pretty well
on another chain I used to work
on back in the day that kind of connected a protocol between ETH Mainnet and Zonechain,
and they saw really good numbers on their collection.
So I'm going to try to duplicate that with the clutch puppies.
It's a little experimental, but we'll see how it goes.
I'm fairly...
I'm happy to just try things.
Yeah, man, that's why we all ended up here by trying I'm happy to just try things.
Yeah, man, that's why we all ended up here by trying different things, right?
To see what works, what doesn't work.
If any of the project funders here in the audience,
if you want to hop in and ask questions
or have anything to add,
you can do it right now.
Or JB or Chespi or Grateful Show account
oh shit I'm behind that one
so that probably doesn't work
is there anything else
Simple Farmer that you would love to share about a project
is there any
basically when you launch people can right away
join there is no allow list, wait list or anything like that Is there any like, basically when you launch, people can right away join?
There is no like allow list, wait list or anything like that?
Yeah, this is fully without any guardrails.
Like I said, no gatekeeping of any kind.
You know, initially we're thinking about adding a fee
and I was going to use that fee to actually help people
bootstrap liquidity for their collection.
However, I think we'll get rid of the fee completely
and just make it a fully free process.
Or if there is a fee at the start,
that fee will be refunded back to that collection
so they can LP for themselves
just to make sure we're not getting spam transactions on there.
And so, yeah, really looking forward to it.
One piece of alpha for the PixelPups Mint on Monday
because it's going to be connected to the AMM. And let's call the token K9 on ETH Mainnet. 55 of those NFTs are going to be bootstrapped
directly into the anvil. So what that means is you'll have access to PixelPups through the
free mint, but you'll also have access to PixelPups through the anvil. And so if you can get in on the
K9 token super early, because it's going to come in at a super tiny market cap,
fully public launch, it's not anything anybody's going to be able to snipe
or anything like that,
you'll be able to get a few PixelPups for pennies, essentially.
Hell yeah, man. I'll be there.
I really hope I will have a chance to mint.
What is the size of the collection, actually?
Yeah, so I just completed, I'm just auditing the metadata here.
In the end, it's 1,234.
It was 1,111, but it went up to 1,234 because we found a new trait that was just too great. It was a trait of our good friend, Squiddy,
who has all squids fully trademarked.
Nobody's allowed to use squids without his permission.
And he was gracious enough to give us permission to develop in Web3.
So shout out to Squiddy.
I pinned it up top.
Let's go.
Love it.
Oh, so it's not a huge collection, Danny.
So for a free mint,'s um that's gonna probably
disappear quite quickly uh guys definitely check it out click simple farmers profile you can find
uh more info there also if you can simple farmer if you can um pin it up there or i can do it
uh that would be also great so people can easily find it. And yeah, I love to see that people are cooking.
Let's go.
Oh, shit.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
I love it.
I love it.
The art style is really, really awesome, man.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate the compliment.
And thank you for giving me the time to talk about some things I'm working on.
Thank you so much, guys.
Damn, that was a really great episode today
I love to see the vibe
around the ape chain
I think that
all the unlocks are done
that was a milestone that we've been waiting for
it's already here
other side new update
new bathroom blitz
you know
things are moving
we just have to keep keep we just have to
keep going you know we just have to keep going i think that's the most important thing no matter
the market because you know there are crazy things happening in this world but uh really really happy
that i could host this show today even uh with my voice uh disappearing in the distance they called
me makavali from wish that's how they called me Makavelli from Wish.
That's how they called me today.
I don't know if it's on point or not,
but it is what it is.
So yeah.
Simple Farmer, thank you so much again for joining us.
Guys, Mint is on Monday, so get ready.
Check the tweets so you don't miss it.
And JB Chespi, anything from your side?
If you're still around i know jb is
probably playing in in discord uh chesp probably somewhere in a ufo i don't know
no man oh good you know just happy to be here can you hear me
yes all right perfect man yeah yeah you know just
happy to hear all the updates
what everybody's cooking
you know man
action is the place so let's fucking go
thank you grateful for having me
thank you so much
SP I quickly brought
Hype or he brought himself
so Hype what's up
and then we say hi to Gatsby.
I swear to god you sick and my phone just fucking dies on me brother. I don't know what's going on.
No I heard most of the space, good to hear all the builders building.
Excited for A-Church and Gimbos or Jimbros or Jabronis coming up.
But yeah no I'm excited obviously we've been talking offline hopefully
over the next couple weeks here you know we can get out of space talk about memus monsters in my
universe uh again we've been cooking a lot of stuff under the hood most people haven't seen
so i'm excited to finally show people and so shout out to king pickle for helping us
not on the contract side but some of the stuff i've been i've been five coding so uh we put out
our first one-on-one teaser from one of the founders in this ecosystem. You guys know very well, Pilot. The pilot and the
team put out, you know, their, their Mimu glider version, which is going to be in the collection
of a one-on-one. We have currently nine, potentially 10 founders that are part of this
ecosystem and a few others are going to be providing a founder one-on-one. And I also
talked about, you know, I don't know if he's still in the room, but Bullies Made a 101, Mimu Pixel, or Mimu Pal.
We got one from Diddle from FoxyFam.
We have one from Lord Vader from Fiends
and a few others we haven't announced yet,
but we'll leave that over the next couple of weeks.
So April 13th is the Mint.
It will be a free Mint for the NFT.
For anybody that wants the avatars,
which all 5-5-5-5,
including the one-on-ones, will have avatars ready to go. It will be $3 or $38 per, which I think is
a very good deal to get an asset fully done, one-on-one, to their NFT and to the other side.
And just a ton more stuff coming. So I appreciate you as always. Thank you for having the space.
Hope you get better, brother. I say get on a flight get out of bangkok go rest go back to the check drink some
medicine and uh get a good massage thank you man that honeybee got me man i'm telling you that
honeybee got me there but excited uh whenever you're ready man uh i'm ready to talk about what
you've been cooking uh you. I've seen a few.
I can't even share that.
I signed an NDA with Hype.
It was ChatGPT NDA, so it was crap,
but I signed it anyway.
But yeah, dope art.
That's what I say.
I can say that.
Thanks so much, bro.
Also, let's quickly say hi to Gatsby.
And maybe before we do that, big shout out to Orange Gang here. Lost, bro. Also, let's quickly say hi to Gatsby. And maybe before we do that,
big shout out to Orange Gang here.
Lost, Alpha Degen,
Amp, King Pickle, Showbiz.
James has a
mutant as a PFP. Absolutely love that.
Uncle Mac, Zombie Rob,
Jem Batuu.
Who else do we have here? Loco Moco, we have a lot of oranges today.
Sky High, guys, shout out to you and shout out to everyone listening.
Chespi, of course. Yeah, this is sponsored shout out.
So thank you so much, AlphaDigen for sponsoring and Gatsby.
Welcome here. How are you doing, bro?
GM, GM, bro.
Yeah, it's good to see that your voice is finally cracking
and that you're passing your puberty, bro.
I hope you're getting better, man.
Not much, man. I just wanted to say hi.
Let everyone know of the upcoming very soon launch of Brill Alert.
And not much, man.
I love the space.
Really hyped for the 8th church mint coming soon of Gimbos.
I got my one white list, maybe I can get a few more for the community, I'm not sure yet.
But yeah, working on a minigame as well for that from the Rilla side. And yeah, man, just wanted to say hi real quick.
Thank you so much for joining, man. Also great to hear you. I said it earlier, spaces are
so awesome to, you know, chat with other people from all over the world, sharing the vibes,
knowledge, everything. Really, really love it so much. Guys, new other side version. So I think
you can go to that Coda secret part of the other side. You can do whatever you want to do there.
There's a meet at the clubhouse today.
So don't miss that one.
And we're going to be back on Tuesday.
Big shout to everyone who joined us here on stage.
Thank you so much, guys.
Shout out to everyone who was tuning in.
Thank you so much.
Legends, such a great show today.
I had so much fun. I learned so much legends such a great show today I had so much fun
I learned so much
have a great
great weekend
if it's possible
let's fucking go
I'll be
I'll be in bed again
you know
I'll try to get rid of that
I don't know
what is it
Honeybee
Bangkok
crazy combination
I'm telling you
crazy combination
thank you so much
for tuning in
have a great day
this was
grateful show 447. Let's go!
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