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OscarSwap x #LBank #Arbitrum #meme #Bitcoin #SEC #zkSync
Recorded: June 12, 2023 Duration: 1:13:30Space Recording
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Yeah.
And my WordPress.
A lot of it is going to be governance in in my protocol.
It's really what the what the people want.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah. Thanks for the question, Emmanuel. ZK Holden, I think you have questions for AskaSwap as well. I feel like you guys are so popular, so many questions towards you guys.
Yeah, no, I didn't have too many questions. I thought it's pretty cool to hear the speakers and some of the new products.
And I specifically, you know, like the conversation around CCIP and Chainlink.
Nonetheless, that doesn't necessarily impact what we're doing at ZK Holden, but I definitely found some of what was said awesome to hear and exciting.
I just was raising my hand to talk about our product whenever that was going to be time.
So no rush, but didn't have a specific question other than it's exciting to hear people trying to continue to build.
Yeah, I mean, you already have the mic. You can have it. You can start it now.
Sure. Awesome. Cool. So I just wanted to spend a few minutes here just to describe what we're doing with ZK Holden and why probably everyone in here at some level should support or could support or like it.
So basically, just to give a quick little drop, I've posted one of our pinned tweets that we have in the chat so anyone can see a little bit more around ZK Holden.
But essentially, when you think about crypto and you think about gaming, one of the most popular game overlaps is in poker and Holden.
And then you think about one of the biggest issues around playing Texas Holden or poker online.
And you always come to the same conclusion, which is that you don't really have any belief that someone can't see your cards or that you're not being cheated in some way.
Whether that's true or not at each time is probably not, you know, maybe a mental bias, but you don't have some assurity that you're playing a fair, free game where someone can't know what you have.
And so what we're doing at ZK Holden is using the technology from the blockchain and zero knowledge proofs to make sure that what you're playing is completely, you know, completely randomized, completely free of anyone being able to see your cards and from like a centralized site.
So there's been instances in the past in history, ultimate bet, full tilt poker, you can go and research some of them where there actually has been centralized sites that are essentially playing hands of God.
And there's been big, massive repercussions of that.
And so, you know, a lot of people have a lot of distrust when it comes to playing poker online.
And so basically ZK Holden tries to solve that and does that by using ZKP technology to allow you to play a completely anonymous game on the blockchain, which, you know, from our aspect is pretty cool because here we're using the blockchain technology to do something that you can't do in the real world.
And then simultaneously, we're making, you know, a game experience using, you know, Web3, which is kind of challenging and difficult.
And just to be a little bit more clear, ZK Holden is actually the first product from Kart Studio.
So Kart Studio is a larger gaming studio with a number of games around TCG and social deduction.
And so there are more games other than ZK Holden, but using the same type of ZKP technology to power them.
And so right now, and while we're here, especially supporting LBank and everyone else on stage, is we want to get the word out.
We want to make sure that people understand they have the capability to play on the blockchain different games if they like.
And we want to let you know that you can get into the conversation, you can get into the gaming experience early and be a supporter of the blockchain gaming experiences that we put out.
And so right now we have an advocate list, which is public, where you can submit to at least stay abreast of what we're doing.
We do have a live test net that you are able to actually play ZK Holden in poker on the blockchain starting today, which is fun to announce because we've been hard at tests for months and months.
We go back all the way to November where we were at the ETH San Francisco Hackathon and won a number of gaming awards and have continued to iterate and develop the product.
And right now we're finally able to announce that you'll be able to play ZK Holden on chain starting today.
So if you're following the ZK Holden account, you can get more information there.
As well as if you're interested in learning more, you can tap into the advocate program to see if you're able to be a supporter.
I'll pin that right at the top just for a minute if you don't mind, if anyone in here wants to see it.
And of course, you can always hit us into direct messages for any questions.
That's essentially the starting point.
If you're wondering kind of where are we, what's the chain?
So we started ZK Holden using Arbitrum.
We were our launch partners with Arbitrum and we used their Testnet Gurley to play some games and test out the product.
And so now we're using still Arbitrum Gurley, but we're currently working with Linea to make the experience as portable as possible.
Transactions basically minimal and exciting times because it's on Testnet today.
And I'm happy to take any more questions or talk about the product.
But at the same time, ZK Holden and what we stand for is the blockchain technology and trying to move the space forward by building during a bear market, which can be challenging for many.
We understand that.
And so just want to give another shout out to everyone that is here still listening, curating, creating and building in such a challenging moment because it shows that you're here for the right reasons.
And so if we can support and work together, that's our mindset and goal with everyone, not just on stage, but in the crowd.
So thanks for the time.
Thanks, Michael.
Joker?
Sorry, raise your hand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hello to everyone.
It's very pleasure to be here as a guest of LB Bank and with everyone.
I know this exchange for a long time.
In fact, I'm already a customer of this exchange.
And I'm absolutely happy to be here, like a guest to this Twitter space with everyone.
And what we can say about the moment is not the best for crypto because obviously we are in bear market, but let's move forward together.
In this period, for me, the time I might have, the best time is for study.
The best time is only for learn and learn.
That's it.
In fact, we need only to wait when this moment, for don't say bad words, go to the end.
And in fact, I'm absolutely happy to listen that there are people that try to launch a new project like Oscar Swap.
In fact, I have a question for you, my friend.
Can I do that?
Of course.
That's what I'm here for, guys.
Okay, perfect, perfect, perfect.
I'm asking to you, are you open to new partnership with other teams?
A hundred percent.
100%.
I'm actively every day.
It's funny.
It's like that's, you know, it's funny.
That's actually one of the big problems that crypto has.
There's no easy way to get a hold of other teams, other legit teams building so you guys can actually grow together.
Like you have to painlessly figure out the weirdest way to get a hold of somebody.
And then you find the email and the email is not even connected.
You know, and you're like, oh my God.
So yes, I'm 100% open.
My DMs are open 100% on Twitter, NTG.
I'm active in my chat.
You can ask my community every day, all day long, concerns, questions, and updating them.
So 100%.
You can't refuse my offer because I'm in front of everyone, all right?
Yeah, no, no.
Most definitely, most definitely.
Jump in DMs with me and we can talk and, you know, most definitely collab on with you.
It's fine, it's fine.
I'm just kidding because I'm very happy that you are doing very well.
Your job is nice when someone believes in what they do, you know?
That's it.
That's it.
Very appreciate your time, my friends.
All right.
Let's do it.
Thank you, Joker.
Yeah.
Thank you, Joker.
Also, like, all the guest speakers will be added in our Twitter space group and you guys can all connect it and, you know, send each other DMs if you guys like to build a partnership.
Hey, look, I think you are here, too.
I saw you just tried.
Hey, what's going on?
Hey, hey.
I just wanted to see if you have anything to share since everyone has shared their thoughts.
Just want to make sure everyone has the time to speak.
No, absolutely.
I appreciate it and apologies for being late.
I did have some internet issues over here where I live.
But, yeah, I just wanted to give a quick shout out to OscarSwap and just the way that they're building.
You know, I'm sure everybody shared their thoughts on Bitcoin and kind of the market conditions, ZK Sync and all that.
But I think really when it comes down to crypto, regardless of the platform that you build on, it all kind of comes down to community and it comes down to how, you know, the teams that you're investing in build.
And, you know, one of the things that I noticed with OscarSwap is just how relentless Manual is as he's continuing to push this project.
I mean, this guy has literally been pushing nonstop 24-7.
I remember he was on a VC not too long ago and he's like – he had mentioned he's only getting just the absolute minimum –
or the minimum amount of sleep required to push this project.
And I just – I found it fascinating just how hard he was pushing and just also how smart he was pushing too.
I mean, the timing was tough, you know, with the market.
I mean, we've all seen it.
Everything's down.
Everything's red.
I mean, you've got a few projects that are just – that are sitting in the green.
But for the most part, everything, you know, is just kind of on that bare trend.
But yet you have somebody who's just continuing to push a project so hard that, you know, regardless of how it performs right at launch, you know, it's just, again, the dedication that I'm seeing, you know, just from this dev is just absolutely incredible.
That alone tells me, like, where this project is going to head.
And so people that, you know, have the grit, you know, and that are bold enough to build in the bare, I mean, just really excited to see where this project goes once we start hitting the bull, you know.
And then not only that, as we can – as he continues to build, it's just – I know it's just a matter of time, you know, before this thing, you know, just completely sins just based off of the amount of work, you know, that's been put into it.
And just how far, you know, this project has come, you know.
Thanks for sharing, Luke.
Manuel, I feel like everyone loves you so much.
Yeah, that's kind of like the – I think the vibe that I give off because I'm always very happy and positive.
You know, even right now, like, the market is wrecking everybody.
And it's not making me pretty, you know.
It's not making my job easier.
But I'm still just trying to push it, be as happy as I can.
New avenues, like, different type of marketing.
Like, everything you can think of, I'm Googling it.
I'm talking to people.
I'm getting advice from all my friends.
And that's another thing.
The reason I have so much support is because all these people, they've been building really good.
I've supported them.
I've learned from everybody.
Maurice from Caesars Calls.
If it wasn't for him, I probably wouldn't even be in the position years later where I am now.
He always gives me the motivation and always advised me on, you know, good moves.
Like, everybody in this space and everybody that I've been connecting with has been much more than just a person, an acquaintance.
It's like close friends almost, you know.
And so that kind of is an extra motivation and support that I get other than just my community that's been supporting me.
I get that from them saying, you're doing it right.
You know, even though it looks bad, you're doing exactly what you have to do.
Just keep pushing, keep grinding, and eventually the green will start and you will start to grow with it.
So, you know, like the community support is great, the influencer support is great, and just overall vibes that everybody, you know, has been giving me.
That's me giving it to everybody else.
So, I appreciate all the support and love from everybody.
That's definitely.
Very, very good vibe.
You can take over.
Of course.
Sorry, Rebecca.
Yeah, I agree with Manuel.
I think we all are here for one reason only, is to support each other and talk about the cryptocurrency and how those governments that doesn't understand what's crypto are doing such a bad job at it.
But yeah, we are in the shitty market like we are.
And right now, like you said, positivity is very important.
I need to announce and tell you, our guest speakers that you are here, that Albank is actually doing competition for the meme coins.
We are actually giving away 10,000 to the winning community.
So, basically, all of these hottest meme coins that are right now in the industry, but they are not right now.
Maybe a month ago, we are doing competition for them.
And even though the bloody market is by itself, we will give to the winning community and help those meme coins maybe to stand on the legs.
So, yeah, basically we're doing that.
So, yeah, keep the positivity on and hopefully everything comes back in the bear market.
Yeah.
Thank you, Rebecca.
Of course.
Yeah, guys, pay attention to our main competition.
There's a lot of reward.
If I remember, Riot's over 10K that's giving out during this competition.
Yes, 10K.
And then, Cesar, I saw you raise your hand.
Do you want to talk about Cesar's?
Yeah, I just had two quick questions.
So, one was actually going to be for ZK Hold'em and one was actually going to be for yourself and Muha there, the team at LBank.
So, for ZK, I was just curious because, again, I used to play a lot of poker stars with my dad back in the day.
You know, when I was at university, it was a great way to kind of keep in touch.
But we, a lot of the times, you know, I was, you know, I was a student, right?
We played play money.
It was so easy to go from, like, 10,000 to, like, millions in play money chip.
The second you went into real money, it was like the complete algorithm change.
So, I was just kind of curious how you target that afflicted player base that's from, like, more of a Web2 side of things and get them into crypto because they're already skeptical on maybe the whole concept of poker online.
And then you add in that additional aspect of crypto or wallet adoption and it gets, you know, a lot more difficult.
So, I was just kind of curious on that.
Yeah, that's a great question.
So, to start, we're going to focus on the Web3 community because we're using blockchain technology and that's the easiest audience, right?
So, the people that understand wallets, the people that understand, you know, blockchain at some level and the communities that are already playing, let's say, games.
A lot of communities inside of NFT projects, even DeFi projects, have weekly games, monthly games.
And so, why not play those games on-chain as opposed to going to some centralized off-chain site like ClubGG or PokerNow or you name it?
So, we're inviting and connecting with a lot of projects and communities that already play these games and making their games on-chain so you can play on-chain, continuing that decentralized ethos,
while imagine getting to play as your PFP at the table as opposed to some random avatar simultaneously getting to play in an environment that matches the community that you're in,
whether that's an NFT project, whether that's a DeFi project.
Imagine the table says LBank and you're playing at the LBank table inside of a gaming environment.
That seems a lot more fun than going to a ClubGG static, random, you know, avatar setup.
And so, that's how we look at the space to start.
We want to be focused on blockchain specifically and the Web3 community.
From there, once we've established some, you know, consistent usage and people understand, it will spread.
And then simultaneously, as not just crypto and blockchain starts to make it easier for people to be onboarded, we can then approach those.
We're connected with a number of large celebrity poker players that are professionals.
And so, that's exciting.
We've actually already hosted and partnered on a tournament in Austin, Texas at the Lodge, which is Doug Polk, celebrity poker players, personal poker house.
And we were there.
We had tables that were ZK Hold'em graphicked out.
And we had a partnership with the D-Gen Poker Tour from AlphaDAO.
And so, we were there real, in real, you know, real time.
We gave away a lot of cool ZK Hold'em swag from hats to shirts to a deck of cards.
And we still have some of those that we go to other events to share and talk about the product in real time to the players that are at tables.
So, this is just a note.
If anyone plays poker in poker houses or at tables and maybe wants to rep ZK Hold'em wearing a hat, wearing a shirt, or getting a deck of cards, if you DM us, we can talk to you more about that to help spread the word.
But also, the way we look at it, like you initially asked, was that we start with Web3 because that's the community.
That's what we're focused on primarily.
But then, we think about how do we onboard some Web2 players and to completely address the question of, like, how does someone in high stakes and so forth manage it?
Well, let's say you're a high stakes game player and you want to control the narrative of who you're playing with or set up your own game.
You can do that at ZK Hold'em where you can have your own, you know, part of our build out will be that you can set up your own table.
So, play with your invited friends specifically.
So, you don't have to necessarily just sit at any table.
If you're at a certain, you know, if you hold a certain pass, you could create your own table.
And then, therefore, you know who you're playing with in a secure manner and you know that you're playing in a way that no one else can see your cards as well.
So, there's a lot of levels to it.
But it would be, you know, one of the best ways to continue the conversation would to jump in our Discord and also to tap into the messages with us.
And we can even share more and more and go to ZKHold'em.xyz to learn more.
But that's kind of a starting point.
I know there's a lot of people here.
And so, again, I appreciate LBank.
I appreciate the questions.
And we want to continue the conversation.
We actually do our own Friday space every Friday, 8 a.m. Pacific, 11 a.m. Eastern, where we talk about the product, what's going on, and continuously take questions and updates.
So, make sure to join us there if you'd like.
But thank you for the question.
It's a great one.
But we are primarily focusing Web3 first and then Web2.
Yeah.
First off, terrific answer.
Second, if Phil Hellmuse, one of those players, signed me up.
And third, you brought up LBank, and that was a great point because LBank is connected with so many projects and so many different communities across the space on multiple chains.
How do you almost incentivize somebody like that to help integrate different communities or different projects into your rewards protocol and get that usage growing on Web3?
Sorry, again, to take up so much time, but it's a great way, I think, for LBank, too, to kind of get more growth within your own platform.
Yeah, I would just say from…
Do you want to go?
Yeah, I was going to say you guys could take that.
I would just say from the ZK Hold'em side of that, we obviously want to partner with everybody that's building inside of Web3 in ways that we can incentivize collaboration and bringing more users to both parties.
Yeah.
So I think as a platform, LBank, we would definitely…
We genuinely wish all the projects or all the projects like partner with us doing well.
So we always try to connect the resources together.
I think co-marketing or building partnership would definitely help each other or, like, both projects.
And we also have very strong local community questions and stuff.
So we will also help our projects to do that as well.
And, Muha, you can continue.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, we do support many, many projects, as you mentioned, Cesar.
From the beginning, like you see this project that we have here, Meme King, LBank.
So we usually are the pit stop for all the projects, even though they are big or small or they are just starting.
We usually love to support them, even though if we are not partnering with them.
I mean, we were the first exchange techs to have the Twitter space with ZK Sync.
So, basically, we want to educate our users.
That's the first step for us.
We want to educate the users, not just buy or go trade this coin or that.
We usually love to have the Twitter spaces, even though some projects don't have time for that.
We want to educate them on the particular project or the community.
So, now, what we have here is, basically, when we saw the Meme community is dying out or the people maybe lost money,
LBank want to give back to those communities.
And we believe that the Meme is sort of creating the hype through the Twitter and through the social media
that maybe when the beer market, those projects that are rarely have utility, doesn't create.
So, yeah, if that's answering your question.
Yeah, and also, I feel like I wanted to add it on this.
As a platform, we're more, like, neutral.
So, we don't really have anything that we wanted to, like, make people believe in.
We just wanted to, for example, hosting Twitter space and talk about all the hot topics that people carry,
provide a space that people can, you know, have a conversation about, express their opinion.
Or maybe, you know, like, Osco, Swap, Manuel, try to bring positive vibes and good energy to the whole industry.
So, I think that's what we're trying to do.
I feel like as long as you keep talking about the topic that people care, people carers,
or, like, solving people's needs, you'll gradually gain more users.
And speaking of more, like, business side, it's just, like, more marketing campaigns.
Yeah, no, great answers from both of you, and thank you so much.
My initial question was going to be something different, but again, I don't want to take up any more time,
so I will throw it back to you.
And I do see that you're continuously running, like, airdrop campaigns with some of the projects that are newly listing.
You have that meme contest, so you're definitely doing a good job at kind of mixing the lines between education,
but also staying on top of what you just said, Rebecca, which is, like, that attention economy that we've seen since Pepe
really drive engagement and push some of these accounts forward quite quickly.
So, great answers from both of you, and again, I really just appreciate the opportunity to be here.
Yeah, of course. Thanks, Caesars, for, you know, giving us questions.
I think everyone has already shared, and it's almost one hour.
Really appreciate you guys, Ty, and very glad to have you guys.
Mouha, I think we can, if no one has any questions, we're probably going to end the space soon.
Mouha, and you can take over after this.
Definitely. I mean, is there any questions?
I mean, Caesars, Manuel, or Holders, or whatever. Nova?
I don't have any questions. I just, you know, since we're going to close out,
I'll just give a little quick 30-second call to action from anybody here that doesn't know.
Take your time. Come check us out. You know, we're more than welcome.
Open book, you know, come check us out. Read the white paper. It's all in-depth.
You know, we have full socials, so Twitter and Telegram, and I'm active in Telegram,
so if you have any really in-depth questions about the protocol that you don't understand,
obviously I'm there to break it all down and tell you everything about it.
So, please, don't hesitate to come talk to us.
All right. Thank you, guys. I really appreciate the time.
This was awesome. This was a huge space.
You know, like, this opportunity was just, it was really great, so I appreciate it.
I will call all of the guests to plug themselves in.
I mean, we have a lot of users here, and please go and plug yourself.
I think, Nova, you want, or ZK Holder, and everyone.
Yeah, yeah, I can go. So, like Manuel said, thank you all for joining this space.
Hi, I am Nova. I am the social media manager for Saito Network.
We are a layer one blockchain that has a unique consensus that solves major problems in the industry.
I urge you to go and check us out and see what we are building there.
We are building through Web3, and we think that if we want Web3 truly to succeed,
we need the Saito solutions, but better to check it out and see what it's all about.
So, that's it for me now.
It was a great space. Thank you all.
Very, very interesting to learn about Manuel's project, Oscar.
Let me know if you need any suggestion or help or, I don't know, something like that.
I'm open to collaboration because networking is key,
and this is what we are doing here in Web3.
We are building connections.
So, kudos also for you guys listening, being here now in the bear market.
Have faith, be bold.
There is life after the bear market.
And the halving is coming.
We didn't get the chance to talk about the halving now in this space.
Maybe we're going to talk about it in the next space.
But it's something very important to understand.
So, thank you guys.
See you in the next one.
Thank you, you all.
Thank you for this opportunity.
Definitely.
I want to thank you all for joining in.
And in the name of Elbang,
we hope we educate all the listeners that we have through the space.
And thank you all for accepting our invite.
And hopefully, we'll have you back on the next Twitter space here at Elbang.
I want to just thank to my beautiful co-hosts, Sarah and Rebecca.
And hopefully, we will have much more spaces together.
Thank you, everyone.
Have a good night, good day or evening.
And keep trading in Elbang.
See you, everyone.
Bye-bye.
See you later.
Bye-bye, guys.
Bye-bye.
