Partnership announcement (4 of 5) @skeleton_punks x @capapult

Recorded: Oct. 1, 2022 Duration: 0:57:19
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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
Good evening, good night, wherever you are in the world right now.
Just currently getting on a couple of speakers here.
So they will be chatting with the Skeleton Punks crew about their recent partnership.
Here we go.
All right, all right, all right.
So Dr Doskoin here from the OC account.
Skeleton Punks have been invited up.
For some reason, it didn't go through that.
And in a moment, we should have some traction.
I think we're good.
Can you hear me?
Loud and clear, sir.
Is there anyone else that's going to be jumping on the call today?
Well, not on the schedule, but we'll go over that in a second.
But we can bring some other people up because more than just talking about the partnership,
this is always a great time to just go over the new things of Luna DeFi and what's coming
out and why we're so excited.
And I think that will just generate a natural conversation.
So we're going to find some interesting people and just grab them if you want.
Certainly.
Well, what we'll do is I can see we've got TerraSpace in the house as well.
As per usual, shout out to TerraSpace is always doing the good work,
recording their spaces, archiving a little piece of crypto history.
I reckon he might want to join.
I'll just give him an invite to speak if he wants to.
And we'll leave it there for the second.
I will invite more people up actually later on, but I'll just have a quick chat with yourself
Mate, how are you going, first and foremost?
Are we live?
We're going?
I'm just chatting with you, just checking in with how you're going.
So I'm having a great Saturday.
I think today's Saturday, right?
I work 24-7.
So to me, time is like kind of like oblivious right now.
It's really strange because, you know, the crash made me super broke, but then presented
a lot of opportunities.
And so I've been in this like really broke building phase, but I think I'm like maybe
the happiest I've ever been.
It's like a bizarre thing that's happened.
Like I wake up like really excited about what's happening.
I'm like really like, I feel really fortunate about the people that have like come out of the
out of the this chaos.
It's, man, it's just like the craziest, I've had like the craziest experience like these
last few months.
And, you know, I really see nothing but like the best, like the best stuff is going to happen
Like if we just stay the course and we build these products, like we will really have,
like we have a superior everything.
I can't, it's the weirdest thing, you know, I'm biased.
I'm biased.
You're a very passionate man.
Every time we speak or have spoken in the past, there's always a deep passion that runs
through and I can tell that you're very excited about what's going on, particularly in the
Skeleton Punks world and particularly with the recent partnerships.
So for anyone that doesn't know already, can you just give us a quick rundown of the recent
partnerships that have come through?
Obviously, we'll get to the newest one in the moment, but you've joined us a couple of times
over the last few weeks.
Other people may have missed those spaces.
What's been happening with the other partnerships?
Quick, quick update.
So the Skeleton Punks after the crash, we were lost and we were like, okay, we found a way.
Fast forward.
So then we were looking at our collection and we saw that we had a Luart trait and they
didn't really treat us the best.
And we had the old Luna logo and this presented us an option and some opportunities.
And I was like, okay, well, let's find some new partners who we think really stand for
the qualities that we stand for as Skeleton Punks.
Like, A, we think that we're like Web3 warriors.
We are not going to quit.
We believe in a decentralized economy.
Like, who do we feel that represents the things that we feel that we represent, right?
And it was very easy for us.
Orbital Command was our first partnership.
They are and always have been like a pillar of the community.
And I mean, it was just a no brainer.
You guys, you guys educate and you guys have always led.
And so for us, that was an easy hand to reach out.
Now you guys have with your logo and your partnership offered some extra special utility.
You guys offered every Skeleton Punk holder 20% off of all future Orbital Command events.
And like, so Terra Expo, which didn't get to happen, but we believe will happen.
So for us, this is something that's really cool because we're betting on the fact that
that we think that there will be a Terra Expo coming up.
So that's part one.
The next partnership was with NFT Switch.
That's a small peer-to-peer trading protocol that allows for inter-community trading and
safety, right?
That's the biggest thing is we're trying to eliminate the scammers and just owning a Skeleton
Punk will get you a 50% off of the broker fee and it'll get you gold to your privileges on
their platform.
Now, so it's kind of crazy.
These partnerships and these ideas, crypto keeps expanding.
And in this expansion, you know, we added other partners who we saw offered bigger opportunity
that we can't actually disclose yet.
So the other partners, Exo Ghidorah, who's been in the system, he's been in the Luna since
pretty much the beginning.
He's one of the seed founders in Talos Protocol.
He is a very large participant in Mars, if you recall.
So this person, you know, everything in crypto is all about relations and connections and
alliances for, you know, there's no better word.
It's an alliance.
If you can make an alliance with projects and you can build utility, then you will stand
out in any market.
So Exo Ghidorah has made a lot of things possible for our community in the next coming weeks.
And I'm so excited because for me, Luna is all about DeFi.
And if we want to save the NFTs, we've got to get the DeFi back.
That is like the only equation.
So how do we solve that problem?
And our next partnership, Capapult, who's also a validator, we want to elevate them and
bring some spotlight to them because they are about to deliver a product that I think is
what we need.
We need a community stable coin, algo stable coin.
We need a community one, not one from TFL.
We need one from the community that we can embrace and trust and give this another go.
And I believe that they've come up with a really good model.
And we'll touch on that in a minute.
And then we actually have one more partnership, but that will be for the following week.
So we can go from there.
Fantastic.
Thank you for that little rundown there, mate.
So why, well, not why, how come, just out of curiosity, you chose,
those, like, I know that you just said what we're doing, you said what Ghidorah does,
but is there like, is there some sort of method to the madness here?
Is there some kind of strategy of like, okay, cool, we'll get Capapult on board.
And whoever, I don't know who the next announcement is, but is it, does it all tie in, in some
sort of cohesive way?
Or are these just sort of entities, organizations, people that you thought, you know what, they're
just doing good things.
Let's reach out and see if they respond.
So the funny thing is, is that, you know, I'm not going to lie, like everything moves
so fast in crypto.
And so if you would have asked me that question, like two months ago, when I started to like
talk to, you know, Thomas about talking to Orbital Command about this idea, right?
About, and the idea originally was how do we support the network, right?
And so I was like, we support the network by supporting the people that do the most.
Who does the most?
Oh, the validators do the most, but which ones?
The validators that provide a service, those are the ones that are ones we should support,
And I was like, okay.
So I created a list of like the validators who actually have a protocol or service or how
engaging they were.
And I broke it down and I filtered them through and, you know, it's not that hard to see who
stands out.
And, you know, there was only like 12 people to contact and I only had a contact, there
was only like three or four people who were, I think they were just too busy to participate
is really what it is.
But everybody else that I reached out to just about, you know, let us, let us represent you
because we want to support you.
You support the network.
That conversation turned into a much bigger thing very quickly.
So within two weeks, the skeleton punks were like, you know what?
I think we should maybe, I think we're looking at the problem wrong.
Um, we're, we're, we don't need to keep focusing on the NFTs at the moment.
We need to focus on getting some community trust back.
We need to get the DeFi back.
This is what the NFTs were good for.
The galactic punks are very good at this.
They have good community outreach.
Uh, they've been a great example, uh, pretty much the entire time that I've had any experience
with them.
So for us, you know, we borrow, we borrow from the projects that we love.
And, uh, so yeah, so moving forward, we have like very quickly, uh, this, I, man, so this
little logo idea of just trying to support like the guys who do the most has quite quickly
turned into something that I think could be very exciting and maybe reignite Luna DeFi
potentially.
I love it.
It's, um, you know, I was watching a skeleton punk last night.
Oh, I bought a few, a couple of nights ago, just, just to, you know, for the company.
That's what I'm talking about.
So I bagged a few Skellies and, um, they are my first.
So it was, you know, it was a, uh, an event, a sight to behold, but I, um, I was looking
at another one last night, which I very nearly bought, but my phone was glitching out as I
was trying to purchase it.
And so I didn't get the bid in in time, but I did see who did get it cause they posted
about it straight after.
Did Rebel snag it?
Did Rebel get some more?
Rebel, Rebel, actually Rebel's been doing the opposite.
Rebel's been helping me spot some really cool NFTs.
So shout out to Rebel there for, uh, putting in the good word.
But, um, what I was, where I was going with that, I was just thinking about the, the hype,
you know, I'm looking at, I'm on, I was looking at the volume being traded.
It's currently, you know, the number one NFT, uh, by trading volume.
And I'm looking at the sentiment on Twitter.
You know, I put out that poll, as you're aware, where I've asked, should I retire my
And perhaps we can have a little riff on that too in a minute.
But the, uh, the majority of the comments are people talking about, you know, skeleton
And so it feels, it really does feel to me from the outside looking in, I guess we're sort
of on the inside now that, now that OC has a partnership, but, um, from the outside
looking in, it really does feel like a lot of the, uh, NFT space at the moment, which
has been dead, could be revived by skeleton punks.
Do you have something to add on that?
Well, the thing that I have to say is that you're absolutely right.
That's pretty much all I could say, right?
Like at this point, we have to be a rallying call.
We have to focus on something.
That's the only thing, right?
So what can we focus on?
It's like, we're trying to deliver something.
Like the thing is like, we're so close.
We just need a couple of weeks before I can really tell everybody what's happening.
Because the only way that we can really get everybody excited again is to make something
and give it away.
So if you feel, if you understand that much of the concept, then like, we're going to
try to really make everybody participate again.
You know, like I look at other models and other projects and like their fee shares, they don't
share anything.
They're not really helping anything.
So we're in a position where we can make something, a couple of things actually quite
And we can just give it back to the community and have them participate and ultra incentivize.
And like, we can hyper incentivize the whole system again very quickly.
And Capapult makes that possible.
Their product is probably going to be, man, it's really amazing.
I was looking over, you know, first of all, I listened to Rebels, beautiful read of the
white paper.
It made it so easy to digest.
But the funny thing is, is those contracts are, are humongous.
I was talking to one of their devs and it's like, you know, we're talking, these are,
these are massive, Matt, this, this, these guys have been working for a very, very long
time to produce this product.
And I am, I can't even tell too much about that because I can't give away their secrets.
But, but there's so much coming.
And I know for a fact, besides that TFL is going to launch big products in November.
So if we can lay the groundwork in my mind, if we can lay the groundwork for the tools,
if we can get good collateral, and if we can get good stable assets in place before they
come out with the playground, that means they got to use our toys.
And if they use our toys, then then the community can get supercharged again.
And then TFL is not really driving the boat, but they're, they're, they're, they're just
providing the vehicle.
But we have the gas, let the community be the gas.
That is our real value proposition.
That has always been Luna's real value vector.
And, you know, our NFT communities and sub-communities reflect that.
And so it is really important that we maintain that course.
Dude, I really liked that analogy.
I hadn't heard that before.
So TFL is providing the vehicles and the communities like the gas.
Really cool.
Do you, do you know, I know that you said you can't reveal too much about Capapol if you're
having conversations with them, but do you know roughly when they're, you know, it's
solids going to be solid?
So, uh, they are extremely close.
I would say, and this is, don't, don't hold me to this, but I think they're within a month
of actually being, uh, going live.
Like, that's what I understand.
They are, they are, they are pretty close.
They are really close.
You know, we are, we are excited about this because we're all trying to time these things
in a, in a way that, that can keep people engaged, that keeps people participating and that
it's not overwhelming.
We don't want to like flood the market too quickly and like create these things that
people can't participate in.
So we are trying to, you know, cross engage and really, really the name of the game is
we have to all work together.
That was why we were so good the first time.
All of the products were seamlessly integrated, right?
They had great communication, but we don't need to rely on, you know, Papa Kwan anymore.
I mean, I love him.
He's the man.
He gave us the mission, decentralized economy needs decentralized money.
Like, that's that, that is what it is for me.
Like I, I bought the dream.
I took the pill and I really believe like if we don't have something in place, these
CBDCs are going to fuck us up.
Like, I believe that.
And if you don't, if you believe that too, then you're a skeleton punk.
You better go get one before these things go to the moon because we are about to give
a whole bunch of shit away.
And if you don't understand what I'm saying, then, then you're going to be too late.
So, I love it.
As I said at the start, plenty of enthusiasm there.
And just to be clear for anyone that's listening that isn't familiar with Capapol, I'm just
going to do a quick, I'm on their white paper here.
Quick run through of Capapol.
They have Solid, which is a soft peg stable coin.
It aims to be an over-collateralized and fully decentralized soft peg stable coin on Terra.
And so, that's the Capapol Solid in a nutshell.
The next announcement is coming in about a week's time.
Are there any clues you can give to maybe have people go on a little, you know, treasure
hunt here?
Treasure hunt, clues.
You know, I really didn't think of, that's a really good thing to do maybe next time.
I'm like the worst because I always want to tell everybody what's happening.
So, it's really hard for me to like get on these faces and not just like spill the beans.
Like, I'm dead serious.
I'm so excited about it.
I just want to be like, you know what I mean?
But, so I would say there's nothing to really seek for, right?
Because everything's actually just going to be laid out very quickly.
And the only thing that I would suggest is to be a member of our community.
Like, I'm doing everything I can to un-wreck, A, the Luna community.
If we can, if we can, if the community can build the tools and provide the tools and get
rewarded for participating.
Like, just imagine, like, we look at, I see Kujira's model.
Their model is beautiful.
Like, everything fucking is paying for itself and like self-paying, right?
So, like, why aren't we doing that?
Like, so we should be paying this shit out of stuff too.
Like, why aren't things being built on the ground level that are giving like 75% back
to the people providing liquidity?
Like, what the fuck?
Like, this is genius shit.
It's not rocket science, right?
So, we fuel the ground floor, like, turboed.
And then we stack all the products on top of it.
And then we make utility for each other.
And then we have NFTs and a lot of fun.
And then we make fun of Solana for not ever fucking processing transactions again.
And then we're back to, you know, doing what we do.
You're right.
I just remembered there was the thing I was going towards before was this gentleman that
bought the NFT I was looking at, the Skelly Punk.
The reason I was, I first brought that up, I was just distracting myself mid conversation
was the background.
So, I want to go over the background thing again in a second.
And so, you're going to have some new backgrounds issued for NFTs that have, I guess, defunct
projects as their background.
So, for example, this gentleman, the Skelly he bought, has a Luart background.
And so, what are the options going to be for the reminting for that person?
And did I have a choice of the background that I get?
So, let me tell you about these five backgrounds.
And this was what started this whole other tangent of stuff that I've been talking about
was just featuring these backgrounds, right?
So, basically, what will end up happening is we're going to, A, okay, let me start over.
We're going to redo all the backgrounds a little bit.
Because if you know our history, we dealt with our founder, this guy is just a clown,
and he thinks he can steal from our community and get away with it.
And so, just so he never has a claim to anything, we're actually going to alter all the trait
backgrounds a little bit, because we want this guy to be gone forever from our lives,
So, besides that, the actual logos, when they come in, some, so, this is where part of the
thing, everything got crazy, because when we started this partnerships, you know, we were
trying to just get utility with all of our partners.
But what happened was, is that as the partners grew, a whole different utility option came in.
So, Orbital Command has a special, like, Willy Wonka golden ticket, sort of, if you get an
Orbital Command logo, you're going to get an extra, I've just said it, you get 50% off
any Orbital Command event for the rest of the time you have that.
It's only one ticket per Skeleton Punk.
It's not like you get a Skeleton Punk, and you buy, like, you know, 15 tickets, and you
get, you know, 50% off.
So, it's one ticket per Skeleton Punk, and every Punk gets 20% off, but if you get an
Orbital Command logo in there, and they're going to be limited, they're only going to
be, like, 50 or 60 Orbital Command logos available.
And so, if you have purchased one of these old logos currently, those are the ones that
will have the chance to get that Orbital Command trait, right?
So, there are other things happening, and I'm not 100% sure, at this point, what the
other partners are going to offer, because they're offering a tremendous amount that we
will fully disclose to the entire Skeleton Punk community.
Like, we've all come together in this, man, I'm so excited.
I can't even believe the stuff that's coming out of this group of people.
It's the most amazing thing.
Like, I'm so excited for DeFi again.
When November hits, if we lay the tracks, let them run the train, and we're going to
You know what I mean?
Like, we're really going to go.
Hey, what's up, y'all?
When my excited friend here says, run the train, he's not talking about what y'all are thinking
he's talking about.
First of all, I just established that right off the bat.
We're going to run trains, but not like that.
Second, I think it's important to go back to the hiddenness of what he's saying here.
Like, what everyone is trying to build here as the foundation is going to accelerate all
of this, like, transactional use once things start getting built up.
And so that's, like, super important, because the bigger you can lay that foundation, the
more amplification all of that on top of it is going to have, like, once these transactions
start flying.
So I really, like, I wasn't that bullish on, I'll be totally honest, wasn't super bullish
on Skeleton Punks.
And then, like, I had a phone call with this homie.
And, like, he made me, like, want to just go outside and start yelling about it.
Like, he's that motivational.
So I don't know if I'm getting fleeced, but they're building on Terra.
So I'm here for it, 100%.
Hey, can I tell you something?
Nobody has to ever, like, you know, I'm anonymous, right?
I am anonymous.
I, you know, my team knows who I am, and so does nowhere.
Mark knows me.
But, like, I try to stay anonymous in my life, right?
But, you know, I joined the Skeleton Punks team when Bullen was there.
And Frex was still there, but I never talked to that piece of shit, right?
Never knew him.
But Bullen got me on the team because I made a deal on my own because I minted Ronan's
and I had minted Skeleton Punks.
And then I made this deal to get Skeleton Punks a 50% off mixing fees over at Redacted Money.
So, oh, yeah, if you own a Skeleton Punk and you want clean money, you get a 50% off all
mixing fees at Redacted Money if you own a Skeleton Punk also.
Like, we're really trying to give you stuff that would make your crypto journey easier
and better.
You know what's super funny about that for some reason?
And I think it's because I was doing their Discord recordings, but I was a mod in that
And I feel like you were one of the skellies hit me up and was like, hey, who do I talk
to about, like, getting this deal going?
And they were like, I can't talk too much about what it is.
And, like, I feel like I just pointed them in the right direction because people would
hit me up all the time because I'm like a mod there.
And I really don't have anything to do with them other than just recording their shit.
And he made me a mod just so I can, like, fuck with permissions if I needed to.
But, like, I got so many people hitting me up about, like, different things like that.
So I thought it was funny that yours is one of the few that's actually coming to fruition,
which I also appreciate.
So, you know, everything crashes after that, right?
Everything dies.
And, you know, if I'm going to stick around and try to save a project and not get paid
for months and months and months and lose all my money in the crash in the first place,
like, I'm not going anywhere.
Like, I really believe in this Web3 journey.
Like, this is really the only way that I see to have economic freedom in a short period of
time. Anybody who's in this space right now will probably make it.
If you're serious right now, like, that all will make it in the bull market is a bunch
of bullshit.
But if you're grinding your kits off in the bear market and you're building some infrastructure
and you're laying some groundwork, you will make it.
Don't bet on a token.
Bet on your team and make something that processes transactions and revenue share and incentivize
And the next thing you know, you have a monster of a platform that's just like a, like Sefi
likes to say, is that black hole liquidity, which can start to feed itself.
I'm telling you, those boys at Capapol Finance, you know, they're talking about, you know,
some like anchor type of stuff or borrow, lend type of stuff happening again.
And, and these guys are smart and, you know, I'm willing to back, I'm willing to back the
And these guys were building on Terra One also.
These guys were about to launch a whole different app, right?
When the crash happened, like a payment integration app, right?
And so they pivoted hard and they're validating and they're trying to keep the lights on with
validating.
And, you know, all these partners are validating and they are, they are going the distance in,
in, in, in ways that are remarkable.
You know, Orbital Command is always educating people, always holding these spaces where
we can talk and get together and like making, making us be able to share this information,
You know, NFT switch, I'm not going to lie.
I, I think I, I, you know, part of my motivation to make all this was to try to find a way to
get delegations, right?
Because having a little trading tool isn't like the best way to establish a great reputation,
but putting all these people together and talking like, man, I've seen like this, like the most
magical stuff happen over the last like month since that happened.
Like you can even ask Rebel DeFi since, since we kind of get together, it's like all these
like really smart people kind of just, it just, it just starts to evolve.
And now more than ever, I'm, I'm super excited about what's happening.
And now more than ever, I'm really, I know that our project as an NFT project will be
self-sustaining.
It will be like, I guarantee it.
Like we will not have to worry about money as an NFT project.
The Galactic Punks were a great example of how to do that.
We are going to use a different tool, but we will use a similar model.
If you catch my drift.
I want to like touch back.
I'm taking over your show, by the way.
I want to touch back on the, the community stable thing.
I think that's a really cool idea.
Cause this time, if it fucks up, like we have nobody to blame, but ourselves, you know,
like it's, it's our, it's our shit at this point.
So I, I kind of dig that vibe instead of having like a face of it.
That's like, all right, if this fucks up, it's on you and we're coming for you and all
that shit, you know, like I think doing it community wise is, is, is the way to go for
Anybody else want to chime in there?
I was just about to say, it might be nice to get a few, uh, skelly crew in here that might
want to ask some questions.
So if that is you, um, you're most welcome to put the hand up and we'll get you up as
a speaker, but more the merrier.
I think, um, it'd be good to hear some more voices.
So I'm not, you know, I haven't been deeply in the skeleton.
I was in the discord for a little bit, but then I just had way too many discord servers
going and I just basically exited the majority of them.
Um, but yeah, I'd be curious to hear what, what the other voices in the space have to say
at the moment it, yo, it turns out like the, the one good thing discord's good for is just
like playing games other than that, like fuck all that other shit.
I'll just use like telegram or signal, but like, if you want to play some games, like
the other day, I'd never even seen this before they were playing this thing called rumble
and like it bounced from like three different servers.
And it was funny.
Cause like, it was a mob of people that were all playing it and they went from server to
It was the funniest shit I seen.
Like it was so much fun.
I want to do more of that kind of stuff.
I think that will, will definitely like help grow the community.
And like, you don't got to be sitting in dead discords all day.
Like just use them when you need to use them.
You know, that's when I use mine.
That's why I never answer you guys.
I don't, I don't, I don't see it all the time, but yeah, that shit was really fun.
So props to, I think it was stoned Island and the skellies and B bands was there from the
space skellies and, uh, I think some D peg cats were in there.
Like it was, it was a good group of like 20 people.
It was pretty fun.
Love it, brother.
Um, I'm looking at the, just real quick.
I'm on nowhere hard at the moment.
I've been looking at the skelly punks collection.
And so floor currently is 34 lunar, uh, trading volume is 20,000, which is double what the
second project is, which I had it on the page a second ago is the lunar eight club, uh, who've
done 10,000 trading volume.
So it's by a pretty significant amount that skellies are, uh, uh, winning here.
I'm just wondering, you know, what are your thoughts on, cause when it comes to NFTs, I feel
like what I observed last year is there's seasons, you know, a lot of hype builds around a project
for a short period of time.
And then it becomes the case of, okay, well, here's the next shiny thing.
And everyone moves to that.
And then here's the next shiny thing.
And everyone moves to that.
And so for you, the question I have here is like, how do you sustain that?
How do you keep people?
And I, I, some of it, I can, I hear built into this where it's like, there are benefits
of the holding the, the NFTs and you'll get discounts here and there and all that.
But it's like, how do you sustain that hype over a prolonged period of time?
So, um, once again, uh, I think the galactic punks should be recognized too.
Uh, they aren't trading on nowhere, uh, very much.
That's never really been their home, but since they've launched to Luna, I think I'm pretty
sure that they're pushing like 12 or 13,000, uh, for their sales.
And they've only been live for a very short period of time.
Uh, in my opinion, there are actually only three blue chip Luna projects at the moment.
Uh, that is, uh, the galactic punks.
That is the redacted money Ronin's.
And that is the skeleton punks.
And how do we keep people engaged?
Well, they actually own a piece of the, of the, of the revenue of the pocket.
Like they've made something and they're building something and they've incentivized their holders
in a way that keeps them engaged.
Like for the Ronins, like you state, you're going to end up staking your Ronin and you
stake your red and you're going to end up making passive income.
Like you're, of course, you're going to pay attention to these silly JPEGs.
You're going to be like, oh yeah, I need a ninja.
Give me a ninja, you know?
And like, if, if the galactic punks, you know, if they are building lots of stuff and
they, I don't know what they're going to do completely, but I know that their community
can vote on a lot of stuff that they can do for me and my community, I'm solely based
on un-wrecking my skeleton punks.
And like, I'm going to do everything I can to give them money.
Like, know that, like, that's just the bottom line.
Like, I don't think there's anything that a conglomerate project should be doing other
than, you know, finding ways to, to, to make money for their community.
Like that's the whole deal of it for me.
Now, some people are really art focused and that is a whole genre.
That's great, but that is seasonal.
Very hard to maintain interest.
Like, uh, this can be, could look like anything.
I could make this thing look like anything.
It doesn't have to be a skeleton punk.
The thing that we're trying to create could just be a black flag.
It wouldn't matter.
It means it's irrelevant.
It's, it's what it provides you that, that keeps people engaged.
And so that's how I look at it.
That's how I'm trying to focus it.
Like, this is what I would want.
Uh, I try to always make everything that I'm presenting something that I would literally
So NFT switch, you know, I hated when I was a retail shopper, I hated that I was in a
community making friends and I get an offer for a good deal.
And then I got to go somewhere and this is like a seven or $800 NFT.
And now I got to pay like 70 or $80 in taxes.
I'm like, fuck that.
I made the deal.
So NFT switches, you got to both own an NFT in the same project.
But then if you guys are in the same community together, you guys can get, you know, there's
only a one and a half percent fee.
But if you own a skeleton punk, you get a 50% discount.
So I'm trying to like do things and give people things and incentivize people to like participate
And eventually I'll say this.
Eventually people aren't going to be able to buy a skeleton punk because there's going
to be so many things happening with them.
So many options, so many variables that like, well, at least you could still stake your Luna
over there with NFT switch.
If you want to get a discount, that's the other way you can get it.
Like we're, you know, we also validate to earn.
So we're trying to keep options open for everybody, but, but I really try to incentivize my community.
That's first.
I know that the people who own this silly JPEG right here, these are the fucking undead
They have been through everything.
And for us to be the top selling project after everything we've been through shows it.
So our story is the story that Luna needs to sell itself.
It needs to be revived from the dead.
We've done it twice ourselves.
Now it's Luna's turn to do it once.
And with the community's help, we can do it again.
I think that's just the end of this.
That's the story right there.
Love it, man.
I'm, uh, I'm looking at some numbers at the moment, just for both skeleton punks versus
galactic punks.
And so price wise, man, it's mind blowing to me.
So I bought a GP last night as well, when I was having my little NFT splurge.
And, you know, I remember buying a galactic punk and spending, you know, a hundred Luna on
it back when the Luna was worth something.
And I'm looking at it now.
I'm like, man, these are 90 Luna.
It's like 180 bucks.
Thereabouts will in my, like, whatever the conversion rates for an Australian.
Um, I'm just like, this is mental, how cheap these things are all going.
And so skeleton punks are half that 35 Luna.
So very, uh, very easy or very low barrier to entry there.
And I feel like based on what you're saying, you know, being a holder of these things long
term, as the season changes and head back towards summer and who knows when that's going
to be, but as the seasons change and the heads back towards summer, maybe it's November.
You know, you did say there's this big TFL thing happening then and all that the playground
will be revealed for everyone to play on.
Um, so it could be sooner than we realize, but it's, yeah, I feel like having an entry
at $35 now is fairly, you know, it's fairly doable.
So I don't know about you, but I, I'm actually, I know about you.
You're very sold.
I'm getting, I'm getting more sold on Skelly's.
I'm considering this, uh, the, the PFP change.
I've got the, the 3D mirror bull, uh, still sitting there.
And of course, Luna balls has moved to Solana and, uh, Solana is not a chain.
And I'm really on, so it doesn't make sense for me to keep repping the mirror bull other
than for nostalgic purposes.
And I'm wondering who here, actually, I've had just a shout out to Moon DeLorean as well.
I think Moon DeLorean, uh, pretty sure it was Moon DeLorean messaged me yesterday and
offered to even lend me one of, one of his, uh, the, uh, what's the most rare ones you've
got on the skeleton parts.
Hey, you know what?
I'm going to tell you something.
Moon DeLorean, he has so many rare ones.
He's been, he collected really, he collected tough the pre-crash and man, I think I, he
won't show me what he has.
And I don't even know what his wallet address is, but he has a bunch of stuff in there that
he won't tell me.
He has good stuff in there.
Yeah, well, shout out to Moon DeLorean there because that was, that's a really nice offer.
And actually someone else, who was it?
I'm looking for the pictures to remember.
Maybe even Tim, uh, might've offered to rank me a, uh, a Skelly as well.
But let's say that I was to, uh, go with a Skelly PFP.
What is, uh, in your opinion, what are the best, what are the, what are the best Skellys?
Well, look, I'm going to tell you, they got, we, we have, you know, there's some communities
that are pretty strong that are still really active.
You got the Crown Skeleton Punks, you got the Ice Style Skeleton Punks.
Um, I have to see if the Moonwalkers are still active.
We have the Pirates, the, you know, SP Pirates.
Um, so if you're into, you know, really that, uh, DJing life, I don't know if, listen, I'm
going to be 100% honest, right?
Like we're trying to, I, sub-communities, I feel like that magic is still like maybe
like four months away, if I'm being 100% honest in this game plan, right?
That I see, because we got to really be focused on bringing back the liquidity.
And the only way for us to do that, our secret sauce is DeFi.
We do it better.
We only had 26 protocols live and we were number two on DeFi Llama.
Like we do that shit better.
So if we, if we make the tools, that's what I'm saying.
If the community makes the tools and then we refuel the community with like fee sharing,
People will be very attracted to coming here and playing again, these amazing value capture
games and strategies that, uh, TFL and other people are devising, right?
So to me, it's like a no brainer.
We are so oversold.
It's not going to get more oversold.
More Loon is going to become available.
We're coming out with more things to lock it up every day, right?
And now we got to get the tools in there for the games to be played for like refracting
and like mirror and blah, blah, blah.
And you know, all that fun shit that I lost a bunch of money doing, but I learned a bunch
of shit doing.
And now I actually believe that I think I can do it better, right?
So maybe I can't do that better, but I know that if I get everyone to come back, it'll
be fun again, right?
Just make D5 fun again, yo.
When you guys are done jerking around over there on Juno and Polygon, come back here and
let's make fucking D5 fun again.
All right.
One more thing.
So I don't know.
Is Juno permissionless?
I don't know.
I know Luna.
No, and I should, I should say, I love Juno.
I love Cosmos.
I love everything about everybody all the time.
But I, but I don't, I don't.
I like them too, sorta, but you know what?
I think that they are, they've had other weird shit.
I don't know.
It's just not the same.
I've used it.
I played with it.
I've bought it.
There's weird shit everywhere.
There's weird shit everywhere, but.
But we can do it here.
We can do it.
We can build it.
We can build it right here.
This is our weird shit.
It is our weird shit, man.
We can do it right here together.
I've got the weird shit with us.
We'll come do all the weird shit with us together.
We'll run trains.
This place has been interesting.
We're talking about running trains and doing weird shit.
DeFi Zealot has just jumped up.
I'm bringing him on as a speaker now.
DeFi Zealot.
Can you hear us, mate?
You should be able to talk now.
I can see you're up as a speaker.
So, DeFi Zealot.
Get us back on track.
After listening to you guys talk about bringing back DeFi, I'm feeling definitely the DGEN foolish
vibes again.
So, thanks for doing all the things that you guys do for the community.
I was one of those people that, you know, minted Galactic Punks on the day that they were minted,
you know, thinking, what can you lose, right?
Like, this is a DGEN activity.
So, there has been a lot of different NFTs and I've been like, you know, everyone's doing
something different in terms of going to Polygon and stuff.
So, I wanted to just ask you guys some, like, logistical questions so that everyone here
is, like, up to date as well.
And, like, I've had two or three, I think three punk or skeleton punks that I have put the
numbers or my wallet address on the list for moving over in October.
But, I'm not entirely sure what's happening with them, right?
Like, I can't see them in my wallet and stuff.
So, if you can just go over in a short, like, logistical thing about what's happening to
the punks that are, like, being migrated.
And the ones that we see on the marketplaces in Terra 2 right now, those are already migrated
and we're still waiting for some?
Or, like, where are we right now?
So, and sorry if this is, like, known information, but it's just, like, too many NFTs to keep track
of, right?
So, can you just quickly get us up to speed on that?
That's a fantastic question.
We have a very clear plan for that.
So, on October 8th will be the close of the latecomer list.
And from basically the time that we announced that we were going to try to save the project
after the crash, we did that pretty quickly, to now will be almost five months, right?
So, at that point, we just wanted to make sure that there was enough time.
When we did the first migration, we were generously helped out by Kenny at Astroverse.
We didn't have any fun, and his team did it for us for free.
So, if you wanted to, you could actually look at your skeleton punks.
You would just have to switch your wallet to Classic and connect to Random Earth, and you
would see your skeleton punks, because you still have them on version one.
So, what we did is we've actually minted all of them, and we hold all of them that have
not been claimed yet on version two.
And so, what is happening is that there are so many, we can't just do it over and over
as people come, right?
So, we gave another window that will close on the 8th, and then about a week following,
all your skeleton punks, for the people who claimed, will be able to pick them up at
NFTSwitch, and all you have to do is just pay your transaction fee, and you'll pick up
your skeleton punks over there.
That's really good information to know.
Thank you for that.
And I guess just, I'm looking forward to, you know, participating and bringing back DeFi
Like, you know, I got wrecked out of most of my life savings on Terra, but I also, you
know, have faith that it was just like, you know, crazy things happen on crypto, and that
we can definitely bring it back.
Like, I'm, you know, like a lot of people here, I'm also playing on all of the other
Cosmos chains as well.
But, you know, there was a time, like about three or four months after the crash, I was
like, okay, I'm just going to walk away from this completely.
And I'm really glad that, you know, if you'd asked me two or three months ago, you know,
what about DeFi, I'd be like, don't talk to me about this stuff.
But I'm really happy to see that we're, you know, learning from all of these experiences
and becoming, it's only a matter of time, and we're becoming more resilient, right?
So, yeah, thanks for all you guys do, and looking forward to it.
Hey, I want to just say something, right?
Like, if everybody doesn't realize this, like, Luna 1 was attacked.
We know there was a DDoS attack.
We know that there was about seven or eight wallets that moved tremendous amount of money
at certain times, which crippled the system.
Like, we're aware of these things, right?
So when people think that version 1 didn't work, it worked flawlessly.
It worked to the parameters it was supposed to.
When it got so out of balance, it just started spitting out the, you know, the Luna,
like it was, like, just, you know, like, whatever, like, out of control.
But at the same time, we know it worked.
Okay, so now, boom, crash, reset.
Inflation is now not, you know, 7%.
We now have ways to make new collateral assets.
We now have, you know, people like Capitoli developing stable algorithmic stable coins, right?
If we, the community, can put these pieces together before TFL hits the market and we,
the community, adopt our pieces, then we set the stage for how this shit goes.
Now, we can get the trust back and we can reinvigorate everybody and we can start to play
these fucking games again.
Because when Prism goes live, I want them to use, you know, Capitoli stable and some other
shit that I can't talk about.
And I want to fucking get this shit on the road.
So, that's why I'm seeing this.
Hey, Dave, that was a great question.
And just checking in, was there anything further that you wanted to add to that?
Because I've got Edith up as well, who would like to.
I just wanted to say I was able to go on Classic and find my punks.
I feel relieved.
So, thanks for that.
Of course, of course.
Look, we, we, when you have to remember the skeleton, our chain crashed, right?
And so, we, we went to the Discord and we just asked, like, what we should do.
And when I proposed, like, look, I have a little bit of builder's money.
I can try to help that.
I didn't even really have to help with any of the builder's money.
Like, just that offer of, of, to do something sparked our community to re-engage and try
to do something again, right?
And at that point, we were like, okay, so what do we do?
We don't have money.
Can we really afford to leave, like, maybe half our collection behind and only have part
of these people participate?
And we were like, okay, we'll vote on it.
We voted on it.
And we're like, no, we're going to migrate everything.
And we're going to give a window, a participation window.
Like, these, our chain died.
So, if we move to a completely different chain, like, we're not the founders.
We're just community members trying to provide value for the people who are staying active
in our space.
Because to us, these are the ones that are the diehards.
These are the skeleton punks, right?
That's what it means to me.
It means that you're not going to quit on, like, man, I really don't want a CBDC to mess
Like, I'm really afraid of those things.
I'm not going to lie.
If we don't have something in place, like, something locked in place, man, we are going
to be fucked.
Like, I don't want to sound doomsday-y, because I'm not.
But I don't want to mess with those things.
Ada, the floor is yours.
Hey, Legends.
I'm here in Medellin.
I just wanted to give you guys some info.
I'm a total fan of Osmosis, total fan of Juno.
Happy first year for them today.
But damn, do I miss the Luna community.
So it is great to be in these spaces, to hear everybody talking about this, because it
really makes me excited.
And I absolutely miss it.
So thank you.
That's all.
Yeah, we missed you.
Have fun down there.
Take a shot for me.
I'm taking a few, brother.
Taking a few.
Here we go.
Look at that.
You brought DeFi back, made it fun again, and Chepi's here.
See how that works?
That's what I'm talking about.
Because really, what I'm waiting for, if we can, as avid community, if we build these
tools, and they're community tools, like the bones, like the backbones of the structure,
if we can build the structure, pretty soon, Chepi and Lucky, Luciano, and all these guys
will be talking about which way to arb this shit, and capture that shit, and I'll probably
lose a bunch of money, because my timing is terrible.
But so if I build something and make some fees, maybe I'll make a little bit of money.
I was just going about it wrong.
So I've been following the smart people, and then I was just like, well, you know what?
I'll just hand them the shovels to the gold rush.
That's my job.
I'm going to get the shovel and make a good shovel, and then all the smart people can
go figure out how to use that shit in a creative way.
Yeah, it's true.
You go, Finn.
I was just going to say, the one thing I learned is that if you're going to play in
DeFi, play with house money.
That's all.
Good, good, cool.
Yeah, it always, whenever, if I'm scrolling down the listeners, whenever I see the
little seppy, you know, thumb pointing at me, I'm always like, oh, nostalgia.
I feel like there's this sense of, you know, there's this, like, I've come home.
It's a comforting PFP, right?
He's giving you the thumbs up.
He's got a smile.
Even though the world's burning, he's like, you know what?
It's going to be okay.
I'm a doctor.
We're going to get through this together.
Hey, but you know what?
Let's realize this, too.
You know, when this crash happened, you know, he was a big part of that emergency builders
And I was awarded my little project.
Like, that little grant changed my life.
I'm not going to lie.
Like, I feel extreme gratitude towards Seth B.
Karma, Pantera, and all those people, you know, for taking the time out of their lives.
Like you said, he's a doctor.
And, like, he's not getting paid to pass out grant application money.
He's, like, literally, I mean, I get it.
He owns a shit ton of Luna, and he wants to make it great again, right?
Like, so, I mean, he has that commitment because he's going to have a vested interest
for, like, 14 years.
I don't know how long he's going to get it doled out to him for.
But he has a reason to participate, right?
And so, you know, if we can get some of these heavy hitters to back this little fucking
idea that I have, I really think, I really think that people will stand up and take notice.
And our idea is to really share this shit with everybody, right?
Like, we're going to give this motherfucking shit away.
Like, if that doesn't get you going, nothing will.
Keep delivering those shots.
Keeps us alive.
I can see that we've got a question from Keeks in the comments here.
So, sometimes people that are listening are just busy doing shit.
I'm always, you know, if I'm in a space, I'm often in the kitchen cooking.
And so, you know, often I won't be, like, happy to get on the space and have a chat.
I'm making loud noises.
But Keeks is in the comments.
She's saying, asking for a friend, but which Skeleton Punk's backgrounds will change to
Orbital Command ones?
That's kind of like a lottery.
So, there's 452 backgrounds between the old Luart background and the old Terra background
that will be changed.
And there are five new logo partners that are going to be integrated.
So, you only have a 20% chance of getting an Orbital Command background.
I mean, that's just kind of like...
So, right now, there's going to be, like, a little feeding frenzy.
So, we are actually...
So, after the 8th of October, when the latecomers list is done, then we know what's what for
the treasury and not the treasury.
That's why we haven't...
We've waited this whole time.
So, the Skeleton Punk core team has never gotten paid.
Our entire roadmap is NFTs.
We believe in this project, and we are going to find a way to make those things pay us,
That's our goal, because we've decided to get paid in NFTs.
Like, we're like dancing monkeys, and we work for JPEG.
That's, like, what it comes down to.
We don't get a salary.
The entire time I've been a team member, pre-crash, and now, I've never received a dime
from the Skeleton Punks project.
Actually, I've never received that dime from any project that I've worked on, to be 100%
honest, because the crash has just, like, wiped everybody out.
But, to be fair, we really believe, and I'll let you know, like, so, I still buy Skeleton
Punks, and, like, I'm buying them out of my own money.
I own 34 of them right now.
But, you know, I want to have a say in what happens.
Do you guys understand what I'm saying?
I can't say any more than that.
34 is a nice, sizable bag.
Do you know who the biggest holder of Skeleton Punks is?
You know, I'm not 100% certain, but do you guys remember Sam?
I was just messaging him with Discord, and I'm trying to get him re-involved.
But, he was one of our big holders.
He might have over 100.
I don't want to shout out, one of our teammates is a pretty big holder.
I don't want to put him on blast anymore than he already is.
Awesome, brother.
Well, look, I'll put out a quick call.
If you've got a comment, if you've got a question, drop it in the comment section now,
or jump up real quick and get it out.
So, we've got about, you know, five to ten minutes left here, and then we'll wrap it
up for the day.
But, while we're waiting to see if anyone jumps up, are there any sort of final important
things that you want to let people know?
Okay, so, we are also going to โ€“ so, the latecomer thing happens on the 8th, and then
the pickup will be, like, maybe a week later.
And then we will try to make the big reveal that I've been trying not to talk about around
And then we have to figure out the timing of the next mini-mint, but we will be โ€“ we
do have another minting phase.
You will have an opportunity to get a rare Skeleton Punk for mint price.
Like, you can get an iced-out one, a king.
You know, they have a bunch of really, really rare ones that people have decided to not
participate with.
And some of our project partners will be getting some whitelists that they can give to their
communities.
And we're going to try to really get everything going.
So, just tune in every Saturday.
That's the message.
Every Saturday, we are trying to hold spaces here.
The Skeleton โ€“ you know, Orbital Command is our partner in that media relation outlet.
That is one of the reasons why we made that alliance with them, because they do it better
than most people I know.
So, come back next Saturday, right?
Yeah, we'll be back next Saturday.
I'll be there, definitely.
And I just thought as well, you know, you were touching on how Orbital Command are going
to, you know, offer some discounts on future events.
You know, and I'm sure there's other ways that we'll figure out to make it so that people
who own Skeleton Punks get benefits and things of that nature.
So, what that looks like is still yet to be determined, but, you know, that'll be a
important thing over time.
But speaking of expos and things like that, I just want to shout out Edith, who's up here
as a speaker, because she was a massive part of putting together the Teradab Expo.
And unfortunately, you know, the crash happened and it didn't get to a bench weight, but Edith
was almost solely responsible for making that thing happen.
So, big shout out to Edith there.
If you're not already following her, if you're not already familiar with her, I'd suggest
jumping on her account and giving her a follow.
Just a quick shout out there to Edith.
I would also like to point out that she successfully saved after it crashed and got it to become
When everybody thought they were going to get shafted, I was able to get my money back
and it was really fantastic.
There's also an Osmocon 2023 in Paris.
So, I'll give you guys dicks when I know them.
Well, look, no one's jumping up.
There's no questions coming through that I can see in the comment section.
Finn, have you got any witty one-liners that you want to leave us with, buddy?
Nah, I used them all at the beginning.
You should have told me.
I would have brought more.
Nah, thanks for having me, though.
I didn't mean to, like, come on and, like, take over.
But I kind of do that sometimes.
It's good to see everybody here, though, for sure.
That's good, though.
You've got to shoot your shot.
Mate, it's been a pleasure having you on here.
Everyone, thank you for your time, attention, and your support, as per usual.
If you don't own a skelly, go out and get one.
Skellies are going to be the big dogs of the โ€“ well, they already are, according to โ€“ I
was on Nowhere Art.
They are right now.
They're the number one on Nowhere Art.
So they are the big dogs, and they will continue to be the big dogs.
So go grab yourself a skelly and join the crew.
With that being said, we'll see you next week, buddy.
All right.
Next week.
Next week, Doc.
Next week, Doc.
Next week.
Next week, Doc.