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QUAKEY NATION CHAT EP.46: WHAT MATTERS MORE ART OR UTILITIES?
Recorded: Dec. 12, 2025 Duration: 2:54:22Space Recording
Short Summary
As the crypto community gears up for the New Year's Eve launch of Derek's project, discussions reveal a significant trend towards valuing art alongside utility in NFTs. This shift highlights the importance of community engagement and potential partnerships, indicating a vibrant future for creators in the space.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Yo, what's the word?
Mr. One God Beats.
Just give me a second. I'm trying to
share out some links. Get some people in here.
I'm playing some music.
Shout out to my homie Apollo.
Apollo's excited to get this art out man he uh i don't know who who ticked him off but he ticked off the wrong artist bro they messed up they fumbled. What did I miss? What did I miss?
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
Web 3 Streets, man.
Oh, shit.
Who got smoke with who?
What did I miss?
Man, another one.
Another one?
Who you pissed off now, Jay?
Who's blaming you? Who's blaming you?
Who's blaming you?
It always comes back to Jay.
Someone blame me.
Jay did it.
Jay did it.
Who's man's is that?
What'd you do, bro?
I didn't do nothing.
How do you know I'll be doing nothing, bro?
It wasn't you this time?
Innocent bystanders, man.
Innocent bystanders, bro.
You'd just be out here catching strays, niggas.
Stay with a vest.
Stay with a vest, nigga.
You'd be out here catching strays.
Damn, it's so good.
Damn, Jay.
I was none of my business.
I was on a different space, and I heard shit went down.
I was like, oh, yeah? That's crazy, because I'm i'm gonna be here i'm having fun i'm living like i got mad rapper syndrome tell them why you bad son tell
them why you bad tell them why you bad sir yo hey yo i got john blaze too but you but you know what
it's a seasonal thing bro it's a seasonal thing, bro. It's a seasonal thing.
It's always around, like, November.
I guess I skipped that month.
Now we in December.
It might be an end-of-the-year thing.
Maybe, like, reflection.
Maybe people are reflecting on their life.
What did I do?
That's crazy, though.
That could be it.
Maybe it's a reflection time.
I don't know bro it's always
it's always fourth quarter
the drama
always happens
the fourth quarter
yo I stay out of it man
ironically enough
oh yeah
I mean
yeah you definitely do
I haven't really seen you
out there like that
but then again
don't forget
you had drama in June
I didn't forget
well
hold on I didn't have drama
Niggas was throwing my name
That's what I'm talking about
People throwing my name around
People throwing my name and shit
But I don't give a fuck
Yo listen, here's the thing
Respectfully, right?
I think if your social credit is shit
Nobody gives a fuck what you say
Facts You gotta look at where it's coming from I think if your social credit is shit, nobody gives a fuck what you say.
Right. Period.
Right?
Like, you got to look at where it's coming from.
Right?
If, like, I feel like if I say something, my social credit is good here.
So, if I call somebody out on some fuck shit, I feel like people are going to pay a lot more attention to my, you know, my fucking, let's call them gripes or, you know, like my grievances. If I'm
airing my grievances with fucking, with somebody who has bad social credit, you know what I'm
saying? Who's known for doing fuck shit or being, you know, in the proximity of fuck shit, then,
you know, people are going to pay a little more interest to that then if somebody with bad social
credit is in talking shit about somebody with better you know what a better a better social
credit score you know I'm saying yeah so you know I always say definitely pay attention to the
messengers you know like because you can't be like,
yo, you really can't be out here trying to throw dirt on people's name with a dirty jacket.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you got a dirty jacket and you out here, you know, known for being involved in scammery
or ruggery or just like in the proximity of those people, then I feel like you're like, you're, you're,
you know, your grievances don't hold as much weight, you know, as somebody who's, who's
doing good business out here. You know what I mean? Okay. Okay. But again, that's just
my position. Tell me what you think about this,, though. You said something earlier in the post.
It depends on what you consider value, something like that.
Well, because some people are looking for different things from their NFTs.
Some people, they prioritize the art.
If the art is dope and there's no utility,
but you're an art connoisseur, you really may not care too much about like things like utility or
community. If you're a community person and you prioritize community, you know what I'm saying?
And you want to be involved in a project that has like, you know, a big community and an active
community, then that's, that's what
you're going to prioritize. If you're a utility person, um, which I, I think I find myself a bit
of both. I'm, I'm a bit, I like, um, use case, you know, like usable utility. Um, then,
you know, that's, that's really what it is. It's like, do you appreciate the art?
Do you appreciate the utility? Appreciate the community? Sometimes you get all three,
sometimes you don't get, you only get one, you know, like, and it just depends on what you're
collecting for. You know, I've always said when it comes to like on the NFT side of it, it's for me,
it's always art first, right? Like art first, utility second, community last, right?
Because realistically, like I'm not here to join social clubs or be accepted by other people.
I like the art.
I'm a collector, you know what I'm saying?
So I don't mind dope art that may not have the best utility, you know what i'm saying so i don't mind um dope art that may not have the best utility you know
what i'm saying or may may not have any utility at all but then it also depends on the price point
you know is the art worth what they're asking for you know like sometimes people will tell me yo
like your nfts are priced a little higher but um but if i'm'm providing art and utility, which I do with my NFTs, it's not just
the music, it's not just the art, there's also utility components, then I feel like the price
justifies the art and utility. You know what I'm saying? Or the art and utility justify the price.
So it's really a matter of like, what are you winning this for?
You know, some people don't care about any of that shit.
They want to know if they could fucking make a profit and degen on this shit.
You know what I mean? So again, it's just like, what are you here for?
What's your end goal? What's your user experience going to be like?
Are you a flipper that's looking for, you know,
to double up? Are you, you know, like a utility person, like, especially, um, like shit that has
use case, like metaverse use case, um, or shit that like gives IRL use case, things like that.
You know, is that what you're looking for? So value is really kind of like interchangeable.
It really just depends on
what the people want.
I feel like that was a long answer.
No, no, no.
That was your answer.
I mean, that's a very broad answer too
because I don't think you actually
answered. I mean, you did say art.
You did label.
You said number one was art.
Yeah, for me, it's art.
Yeah, I value art NFTs, right?
So if the art is dope, you know, like, again, I could kind of, like, fall back on, like, a half-assed utility NFT.
The art is really fire, and I feel like it's worth collecting, you know?
But sometimes, but I've bought NFTs for utility too.
Like, I bought an NFT.
One of the, one of like the first projects
that I really like, PFP projects
that I really went big on
was a project called Metasharks.
And the reason why I got into them is because they
were building a sandbox and their whole shit was about gamification. And this was like when I was
heavily like bullish on, on the metaverse and the entire metaverse experience, um, pre COVID or
during COVID, excuse me. So, you know, back then I had a, a, a real a real big um interest in metaverse nfts you know i'm saying because i
saw the um the use case at the time you know so that was and art was dope too but i feel like i
got i specifically got involved in that project a lot more because of the utility you know so
project a lot more because of the utility, you know? So it's, there's no right or wrong answer.
Again, I think it's just really a matter of what, what your general interest is. Is your interest
the utility or is your interest the art? All right. Well, that's, that's, that's coming from
an artist. So that makes a lot of sense, I feel like.
I think that, I mean, if you weren't an artist,
I don't know if it would be the same if you weren't an artist.
But I think you are an artist, so we have to go with that.
But I'm a collector, too.
So, again, I think I see it from...
He probably got a phone call.
All right. So we got Derek on stage
shout out to Derek
from the spaces
oh you back you got a call
no no I think
my phone connected to bluetooth
I was plugging my shit in
were you done talking
oh yeah yeah I'm good I bet. Were you done talking?
Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm good.
Okay.
Yeah, so we got Derek on stage.
I know his project is coming out
this New Year's Eve
at the end of the...
New Year's Day, actually, right?
New Year's Eve?
New Year's Eve, yeah.
Yeah, New Year's Eve, the 31st.
What's up, Derek?
How are you guys doing today, man?
I'm alright. I think this might be the first time
I got to speak to you.
I think so.
Or maybe I spoke to you before.
I don't know if I'm not sure.
Yeah, I think
from what I can remember, this is the first time.
Unless we've
been in the same space on
the Hop On Spaces
spaces.
You're the co-founder of that, right?
Yeah, it's me and
Cyber are the co-founders.
Gotcha.
I think I hear the little one in the background.
Yeah, I'm watching the gigs right now.
Gotcha, man. Yeah, I right now. Got you, man.
Yeah, I know all about that life, man.
We got twin boys, three years old.
Thank God.
I got a boy that's two and a daughter that's four.
Oh, wow.
Okay, you got a little break in between.
That's good.
Yeah, just a little bit.
Yeah, that's good for you, man.
I didn't have any breaks.
That's good.
Yeah, you went good for you, man. I didn't have any breaks. That's good. Yeah, yeah.
You went straight to
two, which to me
is like, oh my God.
So much.
That's awesome. Well, you know,
my kids and your kids are
I've been around
since I've been in spaces.
These are definitely Web3 babies.
They have this COVID babies. I got are definitely Web3 babies. And they have to say, yeah, you got COVID babies?
I got me some Web3 babies.
They were being raised on Discord.
They know all about those Rumble games.
I was given the milk when I was winning prizes and getting whitelists back in the day.
I was winning prizes and getting whitelists back in the day.
That's hilarious.
That's hilarious.
Someone's going to take my freaking story and say that they don't want to say it first.
Watch.
That's what usually happens in the space.
It's basically because the space is recorded.
But we got Natalie in the building.
What's good, Nat?
Nat, Nat.
Ivan, what's good, man?
What's going on?
What's the word, Ivan?
What's up? What's up, guysivan what's up what's up guys how you
doing how you doing if i sound crazy my allergies are killing me now right yeah just jumped on and
heard one talking about his perspective on on nfts and and what they mean and stuff and uh
kind of on his side with it so you never know until you put out the purpose of what the project is for, you know?
But what matters more?
That's really what the topic is.
What matters more?
And not, I mean, we heard what one said,
this is a very broad thing.
I mean, he did give his own perspective too,
but I'm just curious.
It wasn't, hold on, hold on.
It wasn't broad. It was being politically correct no i'm not i'm not being no
i'm not being politically correct i'm saying that you can't you can't say what matters more
when it might matter broad answer it might matter hold on it's a broad answer it's a broad answer
because it's a broad audience the individual yes it more to you, the individual. Yes, it could.
It could matter more.
But what I'm saying is you get a broad answer.
You get a broad answer when you're talking about a broad audience.
You know what I'm saying?
Okay, see, see, see, he's being politically correct because he is a founder.
I'm not being politically correct.
He's a founder and he also is a co-host.
There is no more.
Shut up, nigga. There's no more. Shut up, nigga.
He's a co-host, so you got to be careful what you say on the stage.
Nah, listen, I don't care, Jay.
Listen, you know I get zero fucks.
I will call it how I see it.
Okay.
I mean it because that's genuinely how I feel.
I feel like there's no right answer or there's no...
It's not like red pill, blue pill, bro bro you know what i'm saying like it's because
different people value different things some people care about utility tokens some people
care about the art it's just a matter of of you know beauty is in the eye of the beholder so is
value value is in the eye of the beholder some people value art more than utility some people
value utility more than art.
That's
the answer.
So if you're
if you buy
an NFT and you value
the art but it
doesn't do anything for you other than you value
the art of how it looks.
Is that okay?
Can you
For me? Yeah, that's okay that's that's okay that's that's that's enough that's enough that's
enough yes i bought nfts just for the art they have zero utility the art is the utility
okay okay so when the art rugs art rugs when the project rugs and the art remains I retract my statement
I retract my statement
I retract my statement
when the project rugs
and the art remains
on the blockchain and in your wallet
what then?
what then?
let me ask you
hold on, let me ask you a question
because you made a statement and I just want to get a better grasp on that, right? Pause. What's your definition of rug?
My definition of rug?
My definition of rug is when the founder just gives up, just stops producing, stops, walks away.
That's not my definition of rug.
My definition of rug, right?
This is how I feel about the term rug, right?
Oh, this is a whole different
topic you have to change up the whole topic now because because because hold on because i don't
think that artists are obligated hold on yeah because i don't think that artists are obligated
to stick around forever for you like just because you bought an nft that doesn't mean that i have
to fucking spend the rest of my life on Twitter and in discord fucking catering to an
audience. I think that if I, here's my definition of rugging, right? If I tell you that the utility
is going to be X, Y, Z, and I sell you on a notion that owning this asset, whatever the fuck it is,
will reap you financial benefits, right?
And then that project turns around and doesn't deliver on said utility
and goes to fucking zero.
That's a rug.
And those motherfuckers don't leave the space.
They stick around and they rinse, repeat.
They do the same shit over and over and over again
They're not disappearing
If I fucking decide tomorrow
That I'm like yo you know what
I think I've done all I could with Skullhunters
I think I'm gonna
Just make web tool music
And not fucking and not do anything
I never promised anybody anything
Motherfuckers came to a bunch of fucking
Skullhunter events for free Motherfuckers came to a bunch of fucking Skullhunter events for free.
Motherfuckers came and drank for free.
Motherfuckers chilled.
I think I fulfilled my obligation.
Am I a rug?
No, but the narrative you wrote for your PFP, your project, your art, wasn't an expectation of long-term value.
It was a collective value.
So you didn't rug, you didn't give a false impression of a storyline.
So now if I make a roadmap and I say first quarter, we're going to deliver this.
Second quarter, we're going to deliver this. Second quarter, we're going to deliver this.
Third quarter, we're going to deliver this.
And first quarter comes around and I fulfill my obligation.
And now second and third quarter run around and y'all niggas don't ever hear shit from me again.
That's a rug.
And those motherfuckers stick around and they go and they'll do it with another project under a different PFP or under a different fucking group name or under a different community and they rinse and
repeat. To me, that's a rug. This goes in, coexist with your question, what matters more, Jay,
art or utility. So, you know, how a developer, how an artist,
how the main dev of a project writes that story,
writes that narrative to that art or project or PFP matters.
So it's like, which one matters?
It's like, I don't know.
You did this title on purpose because you knew there wasn't one true answer.
This is a great way to drive conversation into a different way.
Jay likes divisiveness.
That's why he's turning it hot.
No, no.
Jay's a podster.
Jay's mixing the Kool-Aid.
That's not true.
All right, you're a gaslighter.
Oh, no way.
That's not true.
No, no, no.
You know what Jay's doing?
Listen, this is the word of the year.
Jay is rage baiting people.
All right?
We're going to use the word of the year.
This is the new one.
This is not true.
It's not me.
You're rage baiting.
It's not me.
You officially figured out how to put a title and make it clickbait.
Got it.
Listen, you guys haven't been in this space long, okay?
You guys aren't paying attention to these web three streets.
This is why I don't know what's going on.
This is a trending
topic, okay?
This is a trending topic this week.
Okay? It's been trending for a while.
There's no anonymous listeners. What are you talking about?
It's been... Hold on.
He said that's a trending topic this week.
Motherfuckers have been talking about art versus utility for fucking years.
Natalie, how long have people been arguing art versus utility?
Niggas have been talking about this shit since I was on Clubhouse, bro.
I know, I know.
This is not.
It's trending again now, okay?
That's the point.
You're getting off topic.
I feel like fucking royalties is going to start trending again,
and we're going to be talking
about royalties on OpenSea and shit
this feels like 2023 all over
again
if you come from that time
if you came into this space
at 2023, 2022
2021 hell
that might be your mindset still
because you might be stuck in the old ways
and you think that it should be that same way
in 2025 and 2026.
So, yeah.
Royalties or artists.
Royalties forever.
All right?
Royalties.
Fuck OpenSea.
But that might be...
Foot Hunter said both.
You know what?
Magic Eden dropped their utility project,
and then that shit flopped.
Yo, who got a foundation invite?
That's all I want to know, yo.
Yeah, you can't even be in the conversation.
And I got my shit for free,
so if you pay for that shit, you got to go.
Who got a foundation invite?
I need a foundation invite.
You can't fucking $2,500 for that shit.
That's insane.
Yo, you remember that shit?
I got my shit for free, bro.
And the ENS Ethereum words.
Like, I got a couple of those.
And they were free.
Now, if you didn't get the ENS airdrop,
you can't be in the conversation either.
I missed that bag.
I definitely missed that bag.
Damn, that shit.
I was living on that shit for a good two years.
I was bullshit. Niggas was living
off that ENS airdrop, bro. I was so
mad that I waited so long.
I know. I told motherfuckers y'all about
better get multiple and shit.
Anyways,
it's not
the old way of thinking.
Before even 2020,
I've been in space for much longer.
Um, there was no such thing as much longer.
I'm a grandma nigga.
Um, anyways, there is like, you weren't even getting fucking royalties.
And if you talk to like Bitcoin people that are like, um, on what I can't think.
It's like fucking five o'clock in the morning here.
Um, yeah, I, I just, I just think ultimately like people do whatever the fuck
they want I'm in Africa nigga
I was just gonna say
where the fuck you at
she had her man's house
man's house I ain't got her man's house
you're not in Houston no more?
What happened to Houston?
Shut your ass up
They wasn't paying her bills man
What are you going to put her business for? Nah y'all
American motherfuckers die by with your own shit
These motherfuckers be fucking rolling out
the red carpet
Anyways
Your security guard was
live I got you some flowers today
I'm like okay
don't let the hooligans in
anyways
fuck foundation
first of all second of all
I just you know
I yeah royalties forever
but also like these platforms literally
were making open see was literally making a billion dollars the majority of that transaction
was coming from tips at clubhouse and so a billion almost a billion dollars a fucking month and you
can't give people fucking royalties or like support artists in the space there's no fucking excuses
and all these other platforms are
making hundreds of fucking millions of dollars and so i i just have i do have a different perspective
that artists should always get their royalties unless you're on like the bitcoin like whatever
like you can't expect it in that you know corner of the space because they don't play that that's
not a thing over there for the most part but also
like utility like that whole thing is it's relatively new in this space and so like i don't
think all these projects should need to have like a utility like i'm perfectly fine buying somebody's
shit and just supporting artists and if we don't get back to at least like finding some balance
between you know supporting artists like we have in the past and
like supporting projects that actually like are build our world building and building out like a
maybe a grant more grandiose vision of like and pushing the envelope you know first like with the
tech and also like innovation like we're gonna keep being stagnant in the space and just like
seeing a bunch of bullshit like Like, X copies bubbles.
Like, that shit was bullshit.
Like, the whole fucking.
And even, like, Beeple.
And I'll land here and say, like, somebody posted on this thing that, like, oh, Beeple led, like, global adoption.
Beeple didn't give a fuck about NFTs when he first got into space.
The people that I know that onboard, like, they manufactured that cell.
And a lot of that money came from B2020 which that shit was a whole fucking scam you can do the fucking history about
that shit and so like he didn't give a fuck about anything happening in the space but they knew that
they can make money like a bunch of other people from the art world and some like very key figures
at that time in crypto art and so like they did this whole entire shit but it was actually myself
and cas vegas and
black dave and fucking little sleazy and all these other people and tips that actually were leading
like global adoption and so like i just i say that to say like i just hope people don't get caught up
in these conversations and really just keep trying to push the envelope about like their own creative
practices and stop getting caught up in the fucking minutiae or like fucking narratives because it's just i don't i don't see like the purpose of we've had this conversation 85 million
times like a year i just i just wanted to keep pushing the envelope that's all i know the long
dissertation but yeah so you're saying we shouldn't have this conversation well most of us who've been
here for a long time because we old heads have had this conversation
like nine million times or it's like history it's like people wearing fucking baggy jeans again like
i'm glad y'all wearing fucking nut huggers and shit but like but you're but you're old
but you're old head though what'd you expect the new heads to do? Push the fucking envelope. Figure this shit out, bro.
Yeah, like...
Yo, like, for me,
I'm not gonna lie. I would love to
see... I mean, not that
I would love to see. I'd love to see
a lot more
artists,
creators that are creating
outside of projects, that are
creating more, um, uh, less quantity
pieces. You know what I'm saying? Like, um, that aren't, that don't follow the, the fucking,
uh, carbon copy cutout PFP, um, formula. You know what I'm saying? Cause when I first got into NFTs,
like it was right before board apes and shit. there wasn't like a huge demand for PFP projects and shit. Like a lot
of the, a lot of the shit was more one off. It was one of ones. And, and, and a lot of it had
a lot of utility. Like a lot of people were doing shit with the tech. A lot of people were using AR.
A lot of people were doing, um, or they were doing, um,
digital, uh, digital physical assets where you got a fucking physical, but you also had a
blockchain receipt, which was the NFT of the same piece, you know? So people were using blockchain
technology for exactly what blockchain technology is supposed to be used for which is a proof of ownership
And and and documenting the metadata on chain
Well, a K a what they calling now and using as a hyper tokenization
Go ahead, Jay No, no, you good. I don't no not the same i go ahead jay sure space sorry no no you're good i want to
pass over to foot hunters in a second but go ahead nat yes it's not it's not the same i
in that respect like obviously the token shit it that shit grinds my gear so like zora they had
the best shit i mean people can say whatever they want about Zora
but at the time despite them treating
many of their employees
at least like shit I don't want to get into
that conversation anyways
they
switched over to like everybody doing all these fucking
tokens and like at the end of the day
with the token like that
somebody everybody
unless you're in the inside of the the train
you're going to fucking lose so who like what the anyways and before next point board aid yacht club
they it took them a month or two because nobody was giving a fuck about those kind of projects
first people were doing one-on-ones and everybody was doing that shit and it was great and there's
a lot of cool art people
on tezos with their little fucking four numbers on stage talking about their art and getting
interviewed and shit and it was just a different it was just a different vibration kind of annoying
it got kind of annoying but anyways and then people started saying hey like can we launch
yes there's crypto kitties and crypto pun but, like, they didn't have community models.
Like, you know, people were building, like, in tips and, like, the Clubhouse era of, like, NFTs.
And so they started doing all this, like, 1K, like, four, three, 400 projects.
Then they did 1Ks.
And then they did 10Ks.
And eventually, like, Bordea Yacht Club tried to, like, launch.
to like launch and it took them a good month or two to like actually get some traction and so but
And it took them, like, a good month or two to, like, actually get some traction.
that's that's where all that fucking fuzzy penguin and fucking all that shit fuzzy penguin came from
that shit whatever the fuck and let's not and let's not forget that like what really
escalated the the the whole shit for you know board, Bored Apes was Moon Pay.
You know what I'm saying?
They fucking Moon Pay.
Well, yeah, after that, because that was when it was blowing up.
That's when, like, all the celebrities were getting involved,
and, like, that was when they had sold out,
and it just kind of took it to the next level.
You know what I'm saying?
At least for NFTs.
I'm not going to say nobody's name, and I'm glad? At least for NFTs. I'm not gonna say nobody's name and
I'm glad my homies got some bread
off that shit with the fucking ApeCoin
drop, but motherfuckers getting bored
for them ugly ass monkeys for free.
Kane, shout out
to you from the motherland.
Yo, shut up. Are you an
ass with her still?
Yo, I don't even know how she got Wi-Fi in that hut right now, bro.
Because them niggas be hooking up shit to shit.
I be seeing it on YouTube. They make a charger out of a chute.
That's wild.
Why are you joking?
Her router is made out of an old Nintendo 64 and shit.
Yeah, there's a bunch of niggas with no shirt on carrying her around like Patra, Queen of the Pack.
That's why she talking like that. I know she getting
a good old man's side. Don't play around
there. She like Eartha Kitt
in Boomerang. Yeah.
We're trying to make light of your sex.
We're trying to put a
happy face on it, but it's like reverse
human trafficking. You know that right?
I don't know
Just because you brought them just because you brought the ocean to the beach don't mean it ain't trafficking
Still traffic. She's diddling in Africa
Extra baby oil
Hello Natalie
Once like once that we got flood hunters in the building he's been in for a minute. What's up fun?
What's the word man? What's the word?
Food
Man,'s just like
he's building up that fear, uncertainty and doubt
at the moment
Moody bro, we know it's you
oh wait, I wasn't supposed to say that out loud
anyway, back to Kane
I was gonna just say that you don't get to the
moon pay part until you have like fucking Pranksy and Bobby Zoo buying 900 of them.
1,500 of them.
Like when people try to do their fluffy ferrets and their squishy squid and their –
because it's all fucking retarded.
Like it's always been retarded to me.
I don't –
But, you know, again, I don't buy dolls and shit
so like I don't I don't think that
they should be buying dollies and
because it's um
That's fucking gay. So
When people have their
time right now
what
Well, no, you're
You're don't listen. This is why I'm friends with you because you're very different than me
And I like to get your perspective on things that are different that I never would have thought of you by dollies
You buy your your fucko bobs or whatever they're called
You got a whole bunch of them and you're you got a plethora a fucko Bob
You won't stop can't stop you got a whole room in your. You got a plethora of fucko bobs.
And you won't stop.
You can't stop.
You got a whole room in your house just for fucko bobbins.
And the family can't even go in there.
You're just being there alone by yourself.
Fuck bobbin.
So, you know, for people like you, yeah, hip hop hooray.
But I think that you're in a minority.
And this space manufactures people who pretend that they're into fucko bobs when really they're just gambling and pretending to be art lovers.
That's why the shit coins drained all their swamps.
Shit coins drain their swamps because people don't have to pretend to like fucking stupid bad art.
Now they can just gamble with a clear conscience and lose their money and then get right to the not having accountability part,
which is fine.
And then other people can promise them returns because they're fucking stupid.
People give bad financial advice
in this fucking place all the time.
And as someone who comes from finance,
you have no idea how retarded it all sounds to me.
So I don't talk no more.
I just be like, oh, there's a stupid person
hurting another stupid person.
Punishment fits the crime.
And I walk away with my hands clean because it's none of my business.
I write books now.
I'm a fake author.
Yeah, then he calls me and he's like, why are you around stupid people?
What the fuck are you doing in there?
And then he makes me feel bad about my Twitter activity.
Which is why I haven't been here in a while.
You drive your limo around Skid Row so you can feel better about yourself.
It's a terrible thing you're doing.
Oh, my God, boy.
The hottest take I've ever heard.
Damn.
Yo, I hate you, bro.
If only you knew.
He said I drive my limo around Skid Row, yo.
You're fucking terrible.
Let's hear from Apollo, man.
Let's hear from another artist in the building.
What up, Apollo?
What's good, bro?
I know Apollo's doing live art.
What's up, bro?
What's up?
Are you doing your art?
I know you were doing it live earlier.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I was just doing it for a little bit. You know, proof
of build.
So, um...
I was just telling
one, I was just telling one.
Someone ticked you off. You're about to
show them what time it is.
Yup.
Nah, you gotta, sometimes you gotta prove
people, bro. I mean, I prove people wrong, but you know,
like, people will sit here and downplay the
shit that you do as if that's not what you do.
So I get it, you know what I'm saying?
I make beats live on Twitter and, you know, I had some fucktar talking about, yeah, you
know, this guy's playing AI beats for you.
And I'm like, bro, I've been playing the same fucking beats for the last year in Twitter
spaces all the time.
Why do I need to play AI beats for people?
Well, it's not about like proving anybody wrong or anything.
There is a lack of people showing, especially artists who are building NFT projects.
There is a huge lack of showing the process of how it all gets built
from the ground up all they come out with you see these founders coming out with projects already
done already nice and polished and you're like yo what the hell's the artist you're like how did you
do that like some people want to know that so i'm showing my process i'm not going to gatekeep nothing
i don't think it's gatekeeping like i i didn't think that anyone wanted to see that shit until one told me.
I was like, who the fuck wants to see me sitting here editing pictures?
You'd be surprised, bro.
You'd be surprised at how people, they love the process.
Well, I've been telling him that for the longest.
They watch other people play video games on YouTube.
So the world's crazy now.
So I'm probably a little unplugged from what people want.
But yeah, it's weird to just sit there with a camera on me while I edit shit at Microsoft Paint.
Well, to be honest with you guys, I wouldn't mind watching.
But for me, it's got to be sped up.
I can't sit there and watch you from line by line but if
you do that little time lapse thing they do on tiktok and you just speed that shit up yeah that's
pretty dope that's pretty nah but some people want to they want to see the build up they want
to see the process the whole process and yeah bro listen listen yo hold on like yo kane kane like
i've been on discord i was on a four four hour discord call with this guy watching him literally just
Stitch images and add stuff to create like renders and different parts of a video
And I we for fucking four hours and I was like, yo, bro
I could do this shit all night. You know I'm saying like there are some people that are intrigued because
It's not only just a general interest but people learn from that shit like
watching people watching people's creative experience or creative methods um also inspires
people to do and try those things like i started making ai music videos right because i sat on a
fucking video chat with him for four hours watching him make an AI video. Now, mind you, I'm not doing exactly
what he does, but based off of seeing what he did, it definitely gave me a grasp on what I did want
to do, what I took away from that. And then also how I applied my own creativity to that, you know,
and a lot of that comes from just viewing, learning, and watching. 100% exactly.
And that's why I do what I do.
I don't only just show people my process. I'm also educating them at the same time.
There are a lot of artists out there, a lot of people who, let's take a kid called Beast.
I'm part of the community for the project.
I hold one of the nfts i was actually featured on their um learn with uh learn from a legend uh
series that they that they do i think like what once a week or twice a week on their discord
and uh there's a lot of builders there a lot of people are actually using their beast their nft
to create their own versions of that nft because they own the ip they can do whatever they want
with it so we're very heavy in like nifty island so a lot of the
um creators a lot of people actually learned how to be a 3d creator because of a kid called beast
because they they got this nft and they're like what do i what the hell do i do with this with
this 3d model like i don't even know what the hell i'm doing then they're like you know what let me
learn blender let me learn how to do all this stuff so they always have like a series called
learn from a legend and um and they build
like you know nifty island worlds they're building different game assets they're building weapons and
um and yeah so like a lot of people do like to see the process but at the same time you're building
up a conversation and talking about what you're doing not only that sparking up interest in in
you as an artist you know and that's what that's what i do i do a lot
of education i show people this is how i do what i do so it makes it look this good yeah but apollo
you're doing your thing like with integrity and like um your own vision you're not sitting in a
four-hour discord with me to steal all my ideas and then try to make a name for yourself uh or a farming out here recreating
my product uh no no no royalties no license you know just just dr pepper coming down to
to the pepsi factory trying to figure out what we're doing to make the kids line up um because
that's what happened to me and that's honestly why i don't do it anymore because you have these
scrupulous
individuals out there that will literally for years pretend to be your friend just to get in
a discord with you so they can steal all your ideas and then reproduce them terribly oh well
that's why dr pepper's better than pepsi so i mean you know whatever dr pepper being better than
pepsi is the only thing correct you can say about that analogy.
It's the only thing.
I'm not going to argue with that.
That's just logic.
That's common sense.
Not a communist.
We all love Dr. Pepper.
Shit.
Shit, shit.
Yo, fuck. I appreciate being the Dr. Pepper in the analogy, though,
but thank you very much.
Natalie doesn't like Dr. Pepper. I didn't get that. Natalie's like, Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper in the analogy though, but thank you very much. Natalie doesn't like Dr. Pepper.
Natalie's like, Dr. Pepper.
Dr. Pepper.
Dr. Pepper.
I'll take the compliment.
Thank you very much.
Do not be capricious, Natalie.
Dr. Pepper.
I'm not going to lie, the soda here
tastes like fucking straight up diabetes
that shit's fucking disgusting
it's
it's a little
anyways, Dr. Pepper
Dr. Pepper
you got so many
young men yelled at while you're over there
for your sex tourism
you know
I do not send you to university to carry her luggage
She's you're garring right now. Yeah, it definitely is
The guards in Africa
That went over his head
I completely missed that one
Jigar Jigar B passported passport bro-ing all through different parts of India
Not true. He's not a passport, bro. He's a
Horny like a horny hippie
Wait, you know he video chatted me
From like a fuck commune somewhere in the rainforest
And I'm looking at when he was doing his drum circles and shit
No, you're laughing. There was a fucking drum circle. I could still see that little fucking encampment in my remember that
910 women to three dudes. I was like, you know, the ratio is kind of lit over there. He's like, oh, yes
It's I've got to go, Kane. He went off to go
make vigorous hate
to some young lady who's
going to be a Reiki stone practitioner
once her father finishes paying off
his hands.
A Reiki stone practitioner?
It's wild.
What the fuck?
I can't stand it.
Yo, Fudd,
please, man,mute yourself brother
Like what's going on man
Are you here just to
The farm
Is that what's going on here
Are you farming
Let me know
Let me know
No he's uh
He's Jay connecting
What
Okay one
Okay
You got one
You got one
You be posting up on stage
Muted for hours. I know you
Yeah, so do what the rest of us doing chill down and listen instead of taking up space on the fucking speaker section
There's a bunch of motherfuckers waiting to get up.
Bunch of motherfuckers waiting to get up with a bunch of motherfuckers waiting to get up
A bunch of motherfuckers waiting to get up.
Jake just sitting there.
Muted.
How many speaker slots are here?
I see like four speakers.
Thank you, bud.
What's good, bro?
It's shit, man.
It's fucking snowing in the city.
It's snowing right now?
Yeah, man.
I don't miss that shit.
It's snowing outside.
I had you guys in my pocket.
Oh, shit. Oh, damn guys in my pocket. Oh, shit.
Oh, damn. That sounds horrible.
Pause.
Yeah, I gotta do debit.
Wait, what the hell is that, man?
What's going in the background?
Buy some Fonto right now.
No, no, no. Somebody just said,
pass me that baby oil.
Just now, I heard.
Get the fuck out.
I got the Moody Nugs pass that hat on right now. But it's no baby oil. Just now, I heard. Get the fuck out. I got the Moody Nugs pass that hat on right now.
But it's no baby oil.
Moody Nugs.
Yo, Moody Nugs, man.
Answer the question on the Jumbotron.
Why you up here?
You know what I mean?
Why up here?
Because you was like, yo, Joy Spaces.
And I was like, I haven't spoken to G in a long time.
You commented, bro.
You responded in the comments
We want to hear you say it, bro. Oh, I like I like both, you know, it just depends on the vibe. Oh, you feel me?
I came on
One collected
Don't try to cop out
Right let the nigga cop out bro like shit. That's his answer. That's his answer. First of all, it's not a cop out
It's a legit answer man. You don't call some copper. I'm cap and no cop
Yo, listen Jay, I don't like this manipulation of words that you like to do right
Okay, you said both adjust that of course is recorded
You know every room's in his time
Give us something more than that
Jay like a nigga with a wire
soliciting a fucking
Soliciting a fucking drug days like he's like no man. Come on you you you told me the prices on the dope
the heroin Was the dope the heroin
Was the say say it louder
He's like talk speak directly into my chest here right now we got a legion of Bobman on XRP cafe 3xrp
Remember those nickel bags back in the day at 3xrp
Nickel bags back in the day.
Yeah, 3XRP.
You trying to show him XRP?
That nigga selling nickel bags for XRP?
You feel me?
I got to flip the nickels into XRP.
And then XRP jumped.
I mean, I'm good.
You feel me?
Wow.
All right.
What's the use case?
The use case is
He said no utility, Juan. No utility.
No utility.
He said, what you get is the art.
I'm selling you pictures of nickelbacks.
Just try to smoke it.
Yeah, it's called nostalgia in your wallet.
That's not true.
Don't ever ask SRP people what the utility is.
You're going to fuck around and find the right one they're gonna tell you and you're not gonna know after that
Yeah, I mean it's 10.05 over here
So the utility is do your research because I'm not here to teach people
That's right. Thank you Fudd for your pleasant answer. Anyways, who's next?
That's what Natalie's saying right now. She's like, anyway, who's next?
Oh, shit. Where's the other speakers you saw?
Oh, hell no.
Yo, this girl cannot catch a break. God damn.
Which one of y'all niggas is going to lather me down with baby oil? That's what Natalie's saying. Who's next?
Don't project your shit out of me, motherfucker.
That was an extremely misogynistic comment, man.
What a misogynistic comment to make about a young lady.
She is wild, bro.
Like, wild.
It's not a young lady.
It's Natalie.
That's Natalie.
Maybe she's not here to perform for the male gays, which is you.
Oh, my God.
It's not a young lady.
It's not a lady.
Damn, I'm gay.
Sheesh.
You know what I did there?
You see how harsh that got?
That's you saying that she's essentially getting some sort of Nairobi train run on it.
That's not nice.
Nairobi. Nairobi train run on it. That's not nice. Nairobi train
is crazy.
Who's next?
Line them up like they're queuing up over there.
Don't say that. That's our friend.
See, this is how you get yourself in trouble.
Got quiet now.
Nobody wants to speak.
Damn.
What the fuck?
You're welcome but nah you never answered the question
I asked you what that guy say in the background
you never answered the question
you had him happy fill in the blank
ain't no guy in the motherfucking background
y'all motherfucking having a whole
what
what did he say
he said Natalie why you treat me like
an animal?
Oh, God.
Alright, so...
Fudd didn't answer the question.
Get out of my life.
Fudd said he loves both.
He loves art and utilities.
I don't like the way you repeated that.
I don't think Fudd meant it like that.
And I feel like...
That's what he said.
Transition was.
He just liked both.
No, no, no, no.
That's what he said earlier, bro.
You guys weren't there for it.
More context when you say shit like that.
He said he likes both.
He didn't say one or the other.
No, he said he likes art and utility.
See, he didn't say he likes both.
You just out here trying to make Fudd look crazy.
What?
That's what he said.
He just came off mic.
He was like, yeah, you know, so Fudd said he likes both.
He does?
Okay, okay. come on man you know
i don't be capping you know i don't be capping come on bro you know i got the receipts come on
man don't do that to me bro check the jumbotron for the one time one time because i ain't fucking
around with you one i gave you one shot already that's it that's all you got. One. Check that Jumbo Troll. What it say up there?
What it say up there, one?
What it say up there?
It says, mystery, quakey, PFP.
Collection, dropping, this holiday season, NFTs.
That's what it says up there.
I don't know.
Just showed up.
Yeah, there it is.
Yeah.
What now?
That man enjoys his art of both kind of label.
Yeah. Yeah, it hasn't updated yet. Oh art of both kind of label. Yeah.
Yeah, it hasn't updated yet.
Oh, wait.
He said both.
All right.
Never mind.
Never mind.
Got him.
Fucked up, bud.
Look, that's why he left the room.
You see what you did?
So what?
I told the truth?
Is that what happened?
You exposed this man and I dipped
This is why your record is the way it is one because you just be making cases you don't read the file
You don't do no research. You just be like I think you're innocent
I'm gonna fuck it. We're gonna get you out of this. You know everyone makes mistakes
Here you are. It's named Guilty. Kane is on to something
there, brother.
You are 0-1, brother.
0-1.
It's an O in your name, too.
I tried. I tried.
It was Stu Kwan, bro.
We need you to answer this question.
Stroke, I invited you.
Come on. We need some answers. We need to know answer this question stroke. I invited you come on what we need some answers
We need to know what is more so I think I think the sentiment is that art is like the best one, right?
I think we all can agree that art matters more
Utilities
What is it you read the jumbotron you read the question?
He goes with his manipulation
Think we can all agree, you know, like no, it's not nobody's agree, bro. It's what
What's utility
What what I mean, what is it word that stupid people use on people who are stupid and greedy.
The land of the blind.
The one-eyed man is king.
In a land of people who are stupid and greedy, somebody who's just stupid can reign supreme.
What the fuck is utility?
That's a good question.
You can't fake demand
Hey, man, what you have you guys got your airdrop for the squid Elyos like if you airdrop your squid Elyos
You stake them you're gonna get some spooky token a spooky token
You can take that you can buy mad sapadillas with it the fuck out of you know
I was none of that stupid shit. It's dumb
You can't say words fast with a bunch of excitement in your voice
Like you're a content creator telling me to slap a subscribe button and think I'm gonna instantly want whatever digital litter you made
It's nonsense. I
Like how you started off you can't fake the man
I think I think we have another art one then
It was it was digital litter for me. I think that have another art one then. That's another one for us.
It was digital litter for me.
I think that was another art one there, one.
I think... No.
Again.
He said fuck utilities.
Does that not mean that art was the one?
Does that not mean?
He's saying that utilities is a buzzword.
Demand.
Demand can come in multiple ways.
That's that both type lifestyle you're talking about there now, right?
That's what you're into.
See, that's why you defended him, because the case was personal for you.
You're also a bothist.
You know what I'm saying?
You like it.
You like it like that.
Yeah.
I fucking hate you, bro.
You like a little hot dog on your pizza.
You know what I'm saying?
What?
What the fuck?
You saw a kindred spirit who was down bad, and you said, you're not going to jump him.
I'm going to be here.
And you jumped in, too, because you're a going to jump him. I'm going to be here. And you jumped in too because you're a couple of
bothists.
Fucking Keith Botha.
That's just the fuck you're on.
That makes sense now.
You're suffering from
bothism. All right. You're a bothist.
you're suffering.
Thank you. Enjoy these, bro the room man we hear from artists for real
afro dc get on stage mr darrys he never gets on stage once he's getting paid get on stage
come on bro crypto where y'all at man so i played around
Crypto we all at it's up late around
You got to give I'm gonna hold a second
Derek I
Only can derrick answer the questions. Do you answer the question Derek? He did
You're clearly not listening
Answer I Yo, what's up? You're clearly not listening. What was his answer?
I don't remember.
I wasn't listening either.
I'm not listening, but you don't remember his answer.
I believe he said art.
Yeah.
You don't remember, so you can't go by that.
No, I think he said art.
So what's an example of utility? I don't remember so you can't go by that. No, I think you said art. So what's an example of utility?
I don't know
You ask you don't know
You don't know
Nft project you can't not know what's the what do you mean you're asking the question?
I'm asking the question because it's a trending topic. So if someone says utility, what does that mean to you?
Um, what does that mean to you?
What does utility mean to me?
Utility means to me something that I could use
at any given time.
If it's going to be,
like, let's say...
Yeah, you're struggling.
This is, see,
because you're so not a bothist,
you can't even imagine
the other side.
And that's where your closed-mindedness is coming off as you attacking them because just so anti
and there's now you're definitely attacking them it's not fine they should
be attacked but you're attacking the both of us because you feel like they're
greedy you know they want a little bit everything again they want a little hot
dog on their pizza you can't even see a hot dog or pizza you're like yeah nigga that
shit means whatever them niggas be meaning because you you can't even fact you can't
fathom that shit but these people they want a little bit of everything man and it takes
all kinds for thanksgiving to be served you know takes all kinds there's so many different
like people see like utilities in so many different ways. Like
some people see it as like real world assets. Some people see it as, you know, community,
like everyone has their own versions of what utility means. You know, for me,
I like to be able to use something like actually go somewhere, actually do something with my
utility. You know what I mean? Like that's how how I see utility. So, Jay, utility for you is access.
Yes.
Access.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Maybe a membership in terms of maybe I get a discount at a hotel or, you know.
What's your little Connecticut?
What does that have to do with utility? You do but you do don't you that's because i'm
the same way he jumped in because the man was a bothist and so was he they both go to the same
church of bothism uh your connecticut yeah your connecticutness makes you a bougie person
so you want to walk past the line while everyone's waiting in the cold.
I just heard it, I heard it.
I just saw it in what you were saying.
You were like, yeah, if I can get some sort of a,
you know, an easy pass or I can get seated first
at a restaurant, that would be me.
That would be great utility for me.
If while they're waiting, they see me sitting.
You want a first class glass of champagne
and you watch the single mother struggle with her children in bags and
That's every listen we all heard it you but you want to you want to be able to get a hot towel and two of them because you want
One for the hands which is traditional but you want to do a face one because you know, you know
The Negro loves the face towel with the hot.
I ain't gonna hold you. I definitely love the face towel. Not the hands though. The hands though,
I don't know. You got to do the hands first because you got to be classy. You got to be classy. Then you do that. Then you take it.
You know a lot about these hand towels. No, I'm a sociologist. I study all year.
So then the lady walks
past you and she's struggling, she's sweating,
but you have already adjusted to the climate of
the plane. You see, you got your little
air conditioner nipples shooting at you.
What?
It's on an airplane, a little air conditioner nipple.
So they're shooting at you, you got your champagne and
she's struggling and you got to get on
the plane first and you're having a better time than her.
This guy is an awesome story. If an NFT project can provide that to you
You're going to be a whale
I mean
Maybe
I don't know about the nipples part
What about a restaurant that if you order the most expensive item
They'll take things from other tables and give them to you
Yeah, that would be a little bit over the top
But you're not against that's where he draws the line
He's worried about what no he's worried about was just it but he ain't against it
No, he said he wants them to take it. He just doesn't want them to know that it's being brought to his table
To be a bad person.
That's not nice.
I'm not saying you're a bad person.
You're a Connecticut person.
Connecticut person.
So Connecticut people are bougie?
Is that what you're saying?
All of us?
I mean, you think you are
because of what's around you.
I'm a Long Island person,
so I mean,
you're not bougie with me.
You definitely, well, actually, no. It depends on what part of long island actually that's
way out east oh yeah oh yeah actually so you're like extra hello bougie
the hamptons type bougie yeah like scrooge mcduck money bin front yard back
my teachers cared so i know words like recalcitrant.
I'll never let a city person make me feel bad about having a fucking pool.
So I like Jay Connecticut.
Jay Connecticut.
Y'all ever heard that name in a minute, bro?
Jay Connecticut.
I was talking to you.
I think you were mowing your lawn. You were surveying your estate one day.
Last summer.
Good guy.
You were mowing your lawn and you stopped to survey your property.
I was like, yeah, it feels good, doesn't it? You got to get the weed eater out.
He remembers last summer.
I'm not annoying because I'm annoying?
I'm obviously funny and fun to be around.
I'm just annoying because I remember everything everyone says.
Every time someone lies, I remember.
And I just look at them and I'm like, you think I'm fucking stupid?
Because they eat.
One hates it.
One is the least favorite fan of my memory.
Because he says a lot of really crazy things that he regrets later.
Dang, one.
Is that true?
Do you regret saying both?
I regret saying a lot of things around Kane.
He's not lying.
He's not lying.
We got to get Krim up here.
Where's Krim at?
Let's see if Krim can answer this question.
I just want you to know that you telling people to come up is giving a freeway.
Somebody throw a beat on energy.
Wait, what?
Are you guys about to have a battle now?
I'm glad you got it.
He said, wait, what?
Is this a rematch time? Is this about to happen? You guys I'm glad I'm glad you got it. He's a he's a way I don't know what's up
He's calling for help
Was good Graham Graham the grand was goody? How you feeling, bro?
Oh, come on.
Yo, come on, man.
Come on, bro.
This nigga just kind of knifed us, yo.
Yo, it's almost Christmas, man.
You just sipped Dr. Pepper.
I got RC Cola.
Yo, fuck you, Kane.
Well, I'm me.
You just fuckmoaned in everybody's ear.
What did I do?
I just acknowledged it.
The thing is, you were on mute.
You unmuted to do that.
I did.
That was 100% intentional.
That was intentional for real.
Fuck yo, whoever the co-hosts are.
You unmuted to go, ah.
I did.
I did, yeah. Why would you do that?
Why would we do that?
It was a straight can't conniff, bro.
Yeah, he said like we were corny, but also can't conniff from Connecticut.
No cage kennels.
I don't know what to cover the phones.
Let's start it.
J. Connecticut. Here we go. Incoming. It's coming now. I'm not even running over and he fuck moans at us and you don't even say anything.
That's not moderating.
Is everything all right, Kram? I know we're laughing, but you can be really.
Don't try to transition it like you didn't know it was going to happen.
That was a hit you called in.
You said, hey, Krem's here.
Come on up.
And he was just like, ah.
And you're like, yeah, that's what I needed.
It wasn't like that, K.
You called in a fucking rude hit.
No, we're not doing that.
It's too early for this.
You called in Moan Room Manny to come fucking sex us all down on our eardrums,
and then you just sat there watching it happen.
That's not good stewardship.
Let's get to the questions on the Jumbotron here.
Let's get to the questions.
I just know about that answer, bro.
What's the answer to that question for you?
The replay's is gonna sound extraordinary No, I look a little sick and not shy, buddy. What matters more, art or utilities?
Depends on the day.
Oh, my God.
They're killing me, Smalls.
They fucking kill me.
Kay might be right about something.
Look, you see?
You keep saying, like, oh, it's an easy answer.
But it's not.
No, because when I said it depends you're
like oh well you know you're being politically correct because you're fucking divisive and
you're just trying to start a fucking you're rage baiting people and you're trying to like
yeah i'm telling you you want to start a artist versus utility movement you know i'm saying it's
like all the utilitors are going to be fucking sitting there banging against the artists.
At this moment, now Krim left.
Nigga, that is not a trending topic.
We've been talking about art versus utility for fucking eons, bro.
Like, this is not a new conversation.
This is a trending conversation that's happening in this space at this moment in time.
He said utilitors.
Utiliters, you like that, right?
Utilitrons. Transform. You ran off off crim. I don't know where crim went
When you jump down so you can moan to himself. Yeah
Why did you do that to us?
Was it me? Oh, he's back. Is it because I was talking about you surveying your land
Yo, fucking internet I think there's a point to
Yeah, okay, I have to do that one time
Yeah, redemption time
Oh, yeah, it's starting so it drops every so many seconds or
whatever but no i think that's true though i think what one said spot on oh come on
no i saw the pc answer it's just not that black and white pause
wait what i was paused the other day on a black and white statement wait
How is black and white pause after you just well
assaulted our ears which are
There's a fair bit of interracial motion picture
So when he had a black and white his mind diverts to that lady on the couch.
And then he's like, whoa, hold on.
I just referenced pornography.
No, but that ass, you know, enough of the troll shit, Jade. That utility shit.
It all depends.
All right.
So let's change it up. Let's change it up So let's change it up.
Let's change it up.
Let's change it up.
Hold on.
Let's try something different.
When you see some dope-ass fucking art, do you think to yourself, oh, I wonder what the utility is?
Or are you saying to yourself, I'm going to go see about this project.
I want to go buy it.
Like, what comes to mind when you see the art first?
the art first. I mean, we can agree you see the art first, most likely. You don't see
I mean, we can agree you see the art first, most likely.
Like, you don't see the utilities first, right?
these dillies first, right?
No, hold up. So if it's done properly and they're crossing the T's and dotting the I's,
yeah, go and buy it. But if it's something that's probably not going to be here in two
years or two months or two weeks, then probably not.
Jay, you're not going to like me right now, but I'm going to do something,
and you're going to regret this,
starting this conversation.
But before a particular project,
we'll just call them GGs.
Before the GGs came around,
all right, all right,
there was, hold on, hold on.
There was very little art to be shown,
and the only thing that was being discussed was
Utility all right. It was it was the talk of the animation
There was the talk of the cartoon. There was the talk of this
Project art being incorporated in some type of television show. There was a lot of utility
Well the talk of again, so there was a lot of utility. Well, the talk of, again.
So, there's a lot of utility being thrown around
before people actually got to see
all stages of the art.
That's not true.
There was a video.
There was art.
There was a 3D video that was put out,
actually.
There was an actual animation
that was put out.
It was a pin post for quite some time.
So that's not entirely true there, one.
I know of the project
promising almost the same things
and then cut it out
after phase two.
No, but there was... No, wait, hold up, Ivan.
You don't know what we're talking about. There was animation.
I said I know of another project.
Huh? Well, hold on.
I didn't say that there wasn't.
I'm saying that for the most part, hold on.
For the most part, when there was discussions of said project, at the time, the lump sum of the conversation was wrapped around the utility.
And the art was not primarily the driving force for the first phase of that project
what is this i i tend to disagree because you disagree because your association because your
proximity that's why you disagree wait a minute one before i met you and when i was promoting
this project uh the art of the animation is what people saw
first.
That's what brought the curiosity about that project.
They saw the animation and the animation was the pinned tweet.
And the question was, okay, what's the utility?
So yes.
But the animation wasn't the NFT though.
That's also true.
So again, so because the animation
but exactly so so hold on wait wait wait no no no so again the animation was
part of the rollout of the utility
yeah checkmate, bitch. Wait a minute. How much do you remember?
Hold on, hold on.
The Funko Pop, the physical, the fidgetal shit,
that was cool or whatever, but I think you know what happened, bro.
Just cross the T's and dot the I's, man.
Chess board, just look at it.
What Krem said, bitch. Yeah. sport just look at it what crimson bitch yeah seriously i mean if you want to look at it that
way when a homie when a good homie takes we're talking about them uh the goonie googly i never said the goonie googly
i said the grim ghoulies
No, I don't be remembering the names of shit
It's not me fucking with it. I just don't be remember the names of stuff. I make up
Really bad habit because I don't know none of my wife's co-workers names because I made names for all of them. I
Can't be in the house for things. I got it. I gotta know
You got for her co-workers I can't be in America house He just made me brisket and I'm gonna call him your cuz I don't know his fucking name. That's not nice
I'm walking my dog one day and Kane calls me.
He goes, yo, what the fuck is a Grimm Goyle?
I was like, yo, where were you?
Because I knew he was in the Twitter space somewhere.
And he was like, this is why I don't like coming around your friends.
And I just wanted to know why I was guilty by association.
Nah, you're guilty by association for a plethora of other reasons.
I found myself in a room being shouted out by women from the Bronx
and I don't like being shouted at
What the fuck
I was like, hey, I don't deal with that shit in New York
Fuck up, what the fuck's going on
and then you left and I'm sitting there
with people I don't know and they're talking to me
like I'm not me and that was
a crazy fucking time
Anyway, so what's the utility with the ghoulies? know and they're talking to me like i'm not me and that was it was a crazy time anyway
so what's the utility with the ghoulies that they're not they're not they didn't do
they didn't do the fact that he said somebody from the bronx we're not gonna just
act like we got it oh yeah people yelling at me you know all I can yell that
Once ridiculous
Nobody else wants to come up and talk about this topic
Somebody told me don't I think everybody's afraid of getting flamed by Kane.
I mean, that seems like normal to me.
I don't understand that.
It's been a while.
I don't even doing nothing.
I'm not even doing nothing.
I'm just relaxing.
I think I recognize your PFP from a while, Kane.
I don't know if you're the same.
I'm probably not.
I think you are.
Probably not.
I'm not a very popular person.
I heard you're very popular.
I heard that you changed the music game for all these musician artists.
I don't know the fuck those people we talking about.
I have no idea what those people we talking about I have no idea what those people be talking
They get so crazy too. I don't never understand that shit. They just get mad that I don't want to be a folk hero
It makes sense to me I understand it I don't wanna lie I do understand it
They don't like when I say that I'm nobody
Because they think they somebody and they're not
They're definitely not standing next to me. So if I ain't shit that ruins their whole fucking campaign
So they need me to take the
Throne so that they can have a small village somewhere and I'm just like no I'm nobody I'm fucking poor I'm fucking
nobody in these streets I'm not making very much money because if what I'm
making is money nah this is not this is not the end place to be there's a
there's a hierarchy and there's people wave the fuck above me on it you should
throw flowers at their chair I'm a regular person
But nah man, you doing it. No, I'm not
And needing me to doesn't change the facts because I watch the scoreboard and I don't freebase my own ego silly
It sounds funny
It sounds like some shit a very vain person would tell you
when you think they're not as vain as they are,
but I had a book that was trending number one on Amazon,
and I clipped it just because I refuse to derive my self-esteem
from Amazon rankings because it's gay.
Yeah, I live in the real world.
We do too sometimes, but...
That's a good point.
So when you clip...
I don't understand why anyone would live in the real world.
Huh?
When you clipped it from the Amazon store,
was your choice...
Yeah, I released the second edition.
Yeah, you figured just, you know,
turning the funnel upside down type shit to me.
No, I cl clicked it from Amazon.
I stopped the number.
I issued a second ISBN number.
I raised the price because that's what you do.
All right.
Still work at McDonald's?
I think it's called scalability, Jake. Do you still work at McDonald's? I think it's called scalability.
Do you still work at McDonald's?
Did someone just say that to you, Jake?
My wife.
Someone just asked you if you still work at McDonald's, but you'll punch that person in the face.
You never work at McDonald's. You're from Connecticut.
She asked if the guy speaking worked at McDonald's.
McDonald's. He's the only one talking.
He's the only one talking.
That was who she was.
That was who she was asking.
Can't believe that.
Think that man works at McDonald's.
He's from Connecticut.
They don't work fast food up there.
They have to import people because none of the locals
will work at McDonald's.
She said she was talking about the Prince.
I think he said something about being a Prince.
He's talking about you, bro.
Me being a Prince?
I don't know. She said something about royalty or something.
I'm a prince in my house.
You know what I said?
I was...
Fuck that shit. I'm a king in my house.
Who the fuck is a prince?
Yeah, she didn't say prince.
She asked if you worked at McDonald's. Don't try to trick me.
DJJ connected cunts.
And you're honestly, you're lying about it
is making me think you did work at McDonald's?
What?
He was talking Pinky, K.
His wife was asking.
I eat at McDonald's.
That's the Grim Goggle guy.
The Grim Ghoul.
I think he worked at McDonald's?
That's the lore. I don't know. I worked at McDonald's. That's the lore.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't say anything.
He definitely said a prince.
We all heard him, man.
He's trying to gaslight you.
Don't let him do it.
He's rage baiting.
And with the ease he just did that in front of all of us,
I feel like he gaslights you a lot.
Good night, babe.
See you tomorrow.
Miss Connecticut does not deserve this.
Perfect timing.
Time to get back to the couch.
That's where I'll be sleeping the rest of the night.
Thanks to you, Kane.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
I feel nothing.
Kane's trying to have you sleep on the couch for the next three weeks, man.
He said I feel nothing.
If you live the kind of lifestyle where something
I say can make you
sleep in a different part of your house,
you got bigger problems than the shit that I say.
That's wild.
Sleep in a different part of the house. I can't even imagine my wife fine tell me to sleep on a fucking couch
maybe you sleep on the couch sleep outside why would you tell me to sleep Fucking crazy
This is a common if this is a common effect, I don't know what it is because I don't be doing shit
You would think that I'd be like Epstein Island and niggas and exposing a secrets but I don't I just be
Save the thing that's true. And make fun of one. Definitely make fun of one.
This nigga calls me and makes fun of me
with my own parents. My parents be in the
car. He was just sitting there
talking crazy
to my parents about me.
Your parents are great.
You know, I think you were coming
from the airport and I was on speakerphone.
I talked to his parents. I even talked to him. I just talked to his parents the airport and I was on speakerphone. I talked to his parents
the whole way
making fun of him about
why they raised the Puerto Rican to do speak Spanish.
Oh, shit.
This is true.
No, I'm curious what they say.
We love you, Juan.
No, I'm curious what they say.
My mom tried to divert the fucking topic
and was like, no, it was that he didn't learn
and then completely
took no responsibility for it.
She threw me under the bus.
That's messed up.
Yeah.
Your mom bodied you. She was like, he didn't want to know.
I was like, oh, shit. That's racist.
How do you feel?
You know, I feel bad. I feel bad. I was like, you should feel bad. He didn't want to know How do you feel reasonary
You know I feel bad I feel bad
That's the worst Spanish accent ever that's like when you say more Neil
Yeah, well Win some more wars and we'll say words your way. How do you like that?
Yeah, now people gonna come say I want King to be friends with my parents I
Will not be
Yeah one met my kid it's very different
My son try to take his hat. And my chain. And your chain.
Yack that fool.
Let's see if he can play something. I think my mom's become a Mayfair.
Yo, one, your AI music on Spotify, right?
Yes, it's on streaming platforms.
What's the utility of your AI music?
You get to listen to it for free.
You get to listen to it on DSPs.
That's the utility.
Connection lost all of a sudden.
Hmm?
What's that?
Oh, no more.
Let's see something here.
I feel like I should know your name on here.
Hmm.
Should know my name where?
Is not One Guy Beats on Spotify?
No, it's not One Guy Beats on Spotify.
Hmm.
Well, that answers that question.
For anyone that thought it was that, take that.
Okay, Sean Cornwell.
And you think it's me this man just flunks how little he
supports you and yet you find
all this salt and vinegar
for the things that I say
anyone who doesn't know you make beats under
HR puffing stuff doesn't follow
your career
this is for anyone
that plays back this episode.
The things that his artist name
on Spotify
is his name on Twitter
is sadly mistaken.
So I just clarified that for everybody.
You're welcome.
Thank you for the clarification.
Take me later.
It's okay.
I hope the clarification. It's okay. Hold the applause.
Oh, the applause is crazy.
Hey, yo, Jay.
What did you know about Aura 1?
Who?
Aura.
And then number one.
It's just Aura.
That looks like it spells oral
I'm leaving cuz you guys start disrespect each other asking that man. What he knows about some oral
asking that man what he knows about some oral.
That's fucking crazy.
This ain't jail, but
that's grounds for a prison
fight. I'm going to leave and get some work
done. Jay Connecticut,
I don't think you worked at McDonald's, and I don't
think you know nothing about what that gentleman just
accused you of. One,
aka HR Puffin Stuff,
shout out to you for making all the AI utilities.
You already know.
Don't answer me back
with rap slang, nigga.
And then he says nigga at the end.
I break bread,
ribs, $100 bills.
I want to put that song right now.
These niggas ain't your
friends.
Can we talk about it?
They'd be like, yo, yo, already already shut up and talk like a man your age
and you know something you you did it earlier too jay connecticut you said some young people
i don't remember what it was you you said something it was real modern don't use young
people slang you're a grown man i think you are at people slang. You're a grown man.
I think you are, at least.
I think you're a grown man.
I don't look like a grown man.
He's younger than us.
Is he really? How much?
I have the fountain of youth on my side.
Not Baba.
Not Baba. He knows who Darkwing Duck is.
Yeah, he definitely knows who Darkwing Duck is.
That's how you find out my age.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I judge niggas by the gradient of cartoons.
He knows who Darkwing Duck is, right?
If you know who Darkwing Duck is,
you can't say Cap.
Yeah, definitely can't say Cap.
But then again, man, these are old rules that niggas don't follow no more. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
But then again, man, these are old rules that niggas don't follow no more.
So listen, use all the young people's slang.
Do a TikTok dance, 6-7 Crazy.
Have fun.
Enjoy yourself.
6-7 Crazy.
Yeah, when you go down to the store to get a quality mower, that man needs to look you in the eye and know that you're a man of respect.
And every time you do a TikTok dance, it drains
your power.
That's exactly crazy.
I do have a TikTok dance out there with my
wife, actually.
Man.
It's on her page, not mine.
You know, I want you to know that every time I've made
a concerted effort to be nice to you,
you always ruin it by saying things like that.
And that's why you're on the couch.
Not me.
Because you do TikTok dances.
But that was like, you know, COVID time.
It's like 2020
It doesn't matter
So during COVID time I was smoking in the house
And yelling at children in Grand Theft Auto
It's a big difference sir
I was drinking at 9am
What?
Two door dashers meeting in my driveway
I'm like what the fuck
Yeah nigga I wanted two things
Shut the fuck up don't talk to that man
He has a job to do and my girls like why don't you?
Stop living like this and I said why don't you mind your business and get off my Bozak because I use regionally and generationally appropriate slang
He didn't say no cap he said that ass
Get off my Bozak.
It's crazy.
Yeah. I mean, who was
on TikTok in 25?
Let's talk about it.
I wasn't.
Drinking Black Russians in the morning.
Smoking
shisha. Big time.
Big cloud. In my living room Khalil my mood
style
you're what okay I'm an ass and that's enough of that so I'm gonna leave
because now you're making me uncomfortable. So I'm going to go, but I want you to stop living how you're living because it makes
God sad and it's almost Jesus' birthday.
One, I will leave you in charge of that because you're half a Catholic.
And you might want to start by baptizing a friend for whatever that shit he did earlier
because that's obviously the work of Satan and Mephistopheles himself.
I'll leave you all in the grace and favor of the Lord.
What the fuck?
And also with you.
And also with you.
And also with you.
And also with you.
Oh, no.
The trending numbers are going down.
It's dropped off by two
as soon as he left.
Yeah, nobody wants to get caught slumming.
That's what it is. They're like, oh, no.
Oh, that was funny.
That was good.
I swear, he got like a book of questions.
I got five anonymous listeners down there.
He's fucking hilarious.
Well, I guess that was the space, guys.
We can call it a night.
Damn, you're a fucking quitter.
Get in the space early.
This guy's like, yeah, my entertainment left.
I don't have nothing left.
I'm going to sleep on this couch.
Good night, guys.
I don't have anything left, so I'm going to sleep on the couch.
He just sounds like an older version of One.
No. I wouldn't say that.
Wait, what?
Yo, One just heard that.
Wait, what?
Nah, because I'm doing something here in the background.
I just wasn't sure.
Did he say Kane sounds like an older version of me?
Yeah, that's funny.
We're almost the same age.
How old are you, one?
I'm 42.
Jackie Robertson
number, baby.
Yeah, I might be 40 yet.
Yeah, I didn have been 48. Yeah, I didn't ask.
Yeah, right?
Like, nobody asked.
Yo, who said he got a book of shit?
He literally has a book of this shit.
Like, their response was in their heads.
They're like, fuck you.
It was that and so? Like, they're responsible and their heads are like, fuck you. I didn't ask.
It was that and so?
Dead ass.
He will get upset,
yell at you for something,
then retweet the thing he's yelling you about.
Wait, what are you talking about?
I would do that?
No, not you, Jay.
Well, Jay, you're a smart guy.
Not Jay Connecticut.
No, don't underestimate Jay.
I've heard that name, Jay Connecticut.
Now he's going to call me that every day.
We can't blame Jay anymore.
Oh, thanks, Graham.
That was his other name.
What do you mean?
Blame Jay.
It's Jay's fault.
I get it, but it's 2026 soon.
So each year, you know, I thought we were passing the buck.
No, no, we can still blame him oh I know that I'm just trying to make him feel good
about it blame J connects with
solo 2024 we're about to be in
2026 yeah it's been
two years so we want you to feel good about
this confident in your
you know and stay in motion
you gotta stay in motion
they're blaming me this week you know oh we're blaming me. And stay in motion. You got to stay in motion. They're blaming me this week, you know?
Oh, we're trending again.
Nice.
What did you do?
Why are you telling me a thumbs down?
What's going on?
What did you do?
You said they were blaming you this week, so I'm like, what did you do?
I mean, I don't know.
That's why the topic is a topic.
It's a trending topic.
Facts.
Are you not providing utility anymore?
Is that what's happening?
No, it's just that, you know, there's just projects that only focus on utility.
And I guess art is not utility.
So I don't know.
It's just a broad topic conversation that we're having.
Very broad. I think the takeaway tonight was that everybody agrees that, you know, art matters more, right?
That's what I got from this space.
That was my take home.
I don't think you're listening.
Jay, Jay, Jay.
I don't feel like that was a consensus.
That's what i heard jay i'm gonna try to
i'm gonna try to really slowly break so if you have a painter then you have an engineer and then
you have a dj those are all completely separate things but they they work they they grow together
they can coalesce if you will they can they can grow together like a seed so if you have somebody that's doing one thing they're really into it somebody does something else that and
it's all relative to hip-hop culture air quotes that doesn't necessarily mean that it's hip-hop
that doesn't necessarily mean it's anything so i think people get that culture thing kind of messed
up when it comes to utility and just trying to sell things for the
sake of selling it before crossing T's and dotting I's and stuff like that. That's all that is.
I think that's where that comes from. And I'm just speaking from a personal level. I'm not
speaking on anybody else's behalf of my own. All right. Was that Krim or was that who's speaking?
Derek? Who's that? Derek. No, that was Krim. That was Krim? Yeah.
Derek, is Krim this long
to answer the question?
I was about to say,
it was crazy.
What do you mean? It's clear he had to
wait for
Kane to leave.
Well, of course.
Check the comments.
We all know what's happening.
That's probably why no one else came up.
You know, there's me.
No, but Jay, what you're doing is important.
Like, you know, mentioning the artists, the names, and posting things in comments.
That's flattering to some people.
And other people, it's not.
That's just how artists are.
They're different people, you know.
A painter that's painting all day is gonna be not talking
as much right yeah that's why I wanted stroke driven to come up and talk like her perspective
was needed for this topic but you know I wanted to say to you creme why she would say art you know just a why not just that's hard
your why i was so like i don't know hot dogs and pizza i wanted to hear what joke was gonna say
with her it's not hot dogs and pizza it's a matter of preference like i i do buy nfts for utility and
i buy nfts for art it just depends on what's the utility and what's the art.
You know?
And I wait so long.
We gotta wait. If we don't want to interrupt each other,
you have to wait a couple seconds with the delay, Jay.
Yeah, the art
and utility convo, this is
nothing new. Since the dawn
of time, we've been arguing this stuff
as, you know,
creatives, as fans, as whatever. And I think a fan's perspective of what they want to see on a shelf or on a time we've been arguing this stuff as you know creatives as fans as whatever and i think
a fan's perspective of what they want to see on a shelf or i listen different than ours it's not
new to us but we're not the only ones in the space that's what we failed to realize there's
new people in the space that's why we're speaking they're gonna get rugged anyway
how many no that's the real issue.
You are the younger version of Kane.
I can see it now.
You are.
Nah, bro, think about it.
A lot of the people that are here,
the new people,
they don't understand
the certain nuances
because they haven't been exposed
to certain shit, right?
So they're still clicking on links.
They're still fucking doing
all of the beginning stages shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Because they haven't learned
the right way.
So, I mean, the reality is
you can't save them.
And we can't just be out here
fucking repeating ourselves
with the same information that we've been doing for the last five years.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like there's only so many people you can save.
You know what I'm saying?
At some point, the life raft has to pull off.
We can't just sit here and try to fill the raft.
You know what I'm saying?
People are going to get left behind.
People are going to sink.
And they're going to drown.
But this is, and that's not, I think here's where there's a big disconnect.
Oh, see, this Connecticut.
No, I think there's a big disconnect, Jay, in working with people you care about. And it's obvious you have a great heart, like your heart's in the right place.
So you need to have somebody on your team.
I don't know who who it might be
but just tell you straight up how they feel about something from a like is it can you execute this
and how long is it going to last all those all those things we ask each other as artists like
yo is this going to be available five years from now half the we see five months is a long run people we'd like
six that was five months ago but that was forever ago no for some of us that was a blink of a
fucking eye ago five years was might be a long time in today's world but five years ain't shit
in the grand scheme of art sorry now you got me worked up i'm holding my mic but yes that's crim that's the crim i remember
not this uh crim no i you know a little charcoal and whatever um
yeah keep you know just i think i think sales sales and web quote- unquote, web two and utility, it's different.
You can sell timeshares.
You can do it.
You could just be vicious outside of this space, but we've got to know each other and
have little collectives within collectives that might work with each other creatively.
But as far as speaking or snapping on one another or whatever it is, right, in different
scenes, it might be perceived a different way
i mean look at people's history who have been here there or everywhere and then there's people
who have been on the straight path of what they do and that's it and i think you know i don't know
as a dj you have to dig in crates and you might as well be digging in your you know helping your
homies out and doing what you can but there comes a point in time where it's like is the juice worth the squeeze
you feel me and if something's being done a little bit if there's kinks in the armor and
it's like well we could do things better and tighten up uh you it's better to say it
and rely on somebody who can say it without the emotions because
i don't emote the same way that us that a female might and if you know but that doesn't mean
that yields any more power and it ain't about power it's about unity right that's why they
call coding unity then you have calm communication.
Words mean something.
And so the more,
and that's, what's going to be in my silly little book that nobody's going to buy.
And I don't give a fuck.
Don't care.
It's just time to like open up,
get the fresh air in our lungs and then smoke up.
I didn't mean to kill any hot.
Okay, now I'm nervous.
I feel like the time to go take me away to...
I was dream. I'm nervous. I feel like the time to go take me away to the lights.
I wasn't ready.
No, no, no.
It almost seemed like you were damn near talking about somebody.
No, I'm not.
That's the thing.
I'm not talking about nobody.
I'm talking about the scenes within scenes, like the micro macro.
So everybody's going to assume, oh, so-and-so's talking such.
That's what gets people in trouble.
And that's, that's why like, well, what's up with you and such?
I'm not me, but if you ask somebody about their issue, they might be best friends now.
Three months is a long time to, you know, mend a working, a working, uh,
I don't even know.
The seed, bro, drama is seasonal, man. you know, men to working I don't even know what's going on.
Bro, drama is seasonal, man.
And then the same people working with each other in like three months, bro.
Nah, nah. Drama ain't seasonal, nigga.
We beef with Val, bro.
Yeah, fuck that shit.
Drama is seasonal, bro.
We Cardi B, bro. We got beef.
We got beef.
Forever.
Forever.
It kind of brings the same thing.
It kind of brings you together, but it is like drama is temporary.
It really is, especially if you're doing a face-off and it's a quote-unquote battle,
AI battle, rap battle.
I don't give a shit.
That's WWE.
And then people take it for real, and then you're looking silly out here with five mics
open.
We should do that, right?
No, I don't think so.
That's silly.
That's what happened in six months.
Yeah.
We cool and we all cool now.
Wait, hold on.
We weren't cool before.
That's not how I meant that.
I got to speak better.
I got to take the public. I got to go. I got to speak better. I got to take the public.
I got to go back to the public.
Hey, you're in Connecticut.
Wait, what? We're not cool?
No, y'all are being cool, but I'm saying that...
I ain't even going to speak on this, Jay.
You know what's the problem?
Is that Krum's trying to be cryptic.
He's going to fuck around and say too much.
It's like, nigga, just say it with your chest and shut the fuck up.
Okay, we cool now.
I really didn't mean it like that either.
Dead ass.
That's what happens.
Krem's talking like a fucking
like an Israelite
and a 5%
speaking of riddles
he's like
yeah man
yo get Knox up here
get Knox up here man
shit
Knox here?
that's another joke about
the Israelites
and the 5%
you gotta be looking at this guy with the handshake like, is that Knox?
Is he getting the profile?
Who's this ice guy down here?
All right, well, beef stew radio in the building.
Koolzie's dying over there.
We got Doug.
Oh, my gosh.
Never scared.
Finally showed up.
When the space is over, my co-host graced the room.
I have to say that every time she shows up when the space is over.
She graced our presence.
Jay always be trying to leave the room for like two hours and shit.
He'll be like, yeah, the room's about to end.
Even like three hours later, the room's still going and shit.
Jay just be pleading with niggas like, all right, just shut the fuck up so I can, the room's still going and shit. Jay just be pleading with niggas.
Like, all right, just shut the fuck up so I can boom the room.
You over here just exposing niggas.
I can't tell you shit.
I mean, this isn't something you've told me.
This is just pattern behavior at this point.
Get myself together to go to work.
Just one time.
Damn, one good and spartacus.
Nah, I'm just saying. Nigga, if you've been around one gun and Sparta kicks. Nah, I'm just saying,
nigga, if you've been around, you know what it is. Like, I'm not
saying anything. I'm not saying anything
that no one that hasn't been paying attention wouldn't
know on their own.
I mean, I wouldn't know.
Like I was saying earlier, that new
niggas don't know what we're talking about.
Well, again, like I said, fuck these new niggas.
New people don't know, but now because of you, you old heads, Like I said, fuck these new niggas. Like, come on.
New people don't know.
But now because of you, you old heads,
telling everybody business and shit,
now they all know now. Thanks a lot,
one. You're welcome, J.
Sometimes you gotta be amicable,
guys. Shit, you're not gonna make me feel bad for calling. Shit, it is what it is.
I know what it is. I know.
Shit. Ivan know.
Lady know. See, that's why she laughing.
Stu know. We done popped back in.
Mose know. They've been around.
Beef Stu know.
You gonna call everybody?
I'm calling everybody who know.
I'm pretty sure
Iceman doesn't know.
Ice Hand.
Right, Ice Hand?
One stop
saying names and then you can go all the way
to the bottom.
For real, that was...
He's like, Ice Hand doesn't know.
He was cordial with it.
Yeah, you're right. He probably doesn't.
But he knows now.
Ignore them Icehands.
What? Ignore Icehands?
No, listen.
He ignored you, alright.
Listen intently.
What the fuck was that?
Why y'all niggas moaning in the fucking
oh what the fuck was that jay jesus christ how wellin
yo never scared you gonna jump on stage or what
nah don't try to don't try to bring her into this all right
12 minutes so shut this bad boy down i'm out of here
that's crazy that's that's why one's co-host.
That's all right.
I know I wasn't first choice anyway.
I don't care.
I don't care.
That's so depressing.
Why would you say that?
That's all right.
I haven't been doing co-host shit anyway.
I haven't brought anyone up.
I haven't hit the mute button.
I'm just sitting here like
talking my shit.
You're always the first choice, man.
You matter.
You matter to me, bro.
I'm sure I do.
Anyway, what was that Spotify name again?
My laptop died.
Spotify.
No, no, there's no Spotify.
I don't think.
Don't worry about it.
Ice Hang, what's going on, man?
The project is called
Aura.
Yeah, I didn't hear what you said.
What's up, Icehang?
Aura without the one.
Yeah, I just saw
your guys' space and decided to join.
I don't know. I don't know what you
guys are talking about. Are you guys
from Solana? We got one.
Is Solana a city?
Jay's definitely a Solana guy.
What?
He acts like we were Solana people.
Are you not paying attention to the people that are speaking in your room, bro?
Here we go. He's mad now, guys. He's mad.
All right, Coram. all right quorum we got you
not gonna answer his question are you from salami yeah so what do you got what do you guys do here
just like uh try to pump your bags and then dump them or what do you do something more sophisticated
than that like i'm from the xlm network and we're big on DeFi over there.
No disrespect, just curious. Honestly, just curious.
Jay's definitely a bag pumper.
Jay's trying to pump his bag.
Jay's a heavy bag pumper. He's into all the
degenerate shit.
I believe in the quality of art
on chain. I'm more of a tech guy,
but Jay's definitely trying to pump his bags.
Yeah, he's right.
I'm definitely a pumper of bags.
I do like to pump my own.
I just see my own go after I said go.
You see, that's why he said you weren't sophisticated.
You know what I'm saying?
He was like, you're the unsophisticated.
I actually believe in technology and art.
Jay's just trying to pump his bag.
So yes, I am sophisticated.
I drink my coffee.
I drink cappuccinos with my pinky up because of my sophistication.
So yeah, all of that.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, he's right.
He's right.
I am a bag pumper.'s what i do i mean nobody wants
flat bags what the fuck that's what i'm saying but jr you oh never mind
diamond hands go ahead diamond hands diamond hands the best up here finally damn coolsy it
took you like two hours i was just listening and laughing my asshole but when you drink the coffee don't forget to put
your pinky finger up yes sir that's exactly bunch of the scenes
delay uh so the speakers up here he just heard you say that
it's a delay for the listeners. He just heard it.
Yeah, my pinky's definitely up.
Yeah, he has his Timberland boots are open-toed, so don't mind one.
He lives in Florida now.
The Floridians, they're different over there, especially ones from New York.
Yeah, there you go.
Look at Ivan.
Wow.
It sounds so offended.
Wow.
Wow.
I feel like me and Ivan traded places, right?
Because if I'm not mistaken,
I know he was out here
in Florida for a minute
and I was staying
in the trenches in New York.
And now he came back to New York, and now I'm in Florida.
So it was like we played Trading Places.
Wait, you're in New York now, Evan?
I'm back in Florida now.
Oh, you're back in Florida?
Nigga, holla at me, bro.
Yeah, I told you.
You should have been in that place.
Yo, I'm from New York.
I thought you was back in New York.
I'm in Ocala with Antai
from Soul on Chain.
You met Antai
from Soul on Chain?
Why does it sound familiar?
Was he around when he was around?
He was the first one with the blacked out PFP
in the yellow background with the blacked out PFP in the yellow background
with the bull bears in them.
Nah, I don't know.
You don't know anti, bro.
You don't be active out here.
You want to sleep in 2025.
Well, they are a bumper bagger.
I'm not with the degenerate, bro.
Y'all a bunch of bag pumpers and shit.
Yeah, y'all niggas on that DJ and shit, bro.
I'm telling you, me and Stroke are purists.
You know what I'm saying?
We care about the integrity of the art and the technology.
His pinky's all the way up now.
You know what I'm saying?
I actually believe in the technology.
You know what I'm saying?
These motherfuckers want custodial wallets and easy access.
Y'all motherfuckers want to pay for fucking Starbucks with crypto.
Fucking bullshit.
Who doesn't?
Y'all niggas believe in mass adoption and all of this other fucking shit that they're
talking about.
You don't want to do that?
I already hooked up my phantom wallet.
There's no such thing as mass deception.
FYI.
You don't have 50 friends toession. Why would you do that?
Because I got a bunch of wallets.
Yeah, that's
still the equivalent of
rainy days.
That's the equivalent of, remember when they had
the Twitter hexagons
and then y'all dumb motherfuckers were
connecting your crypto wallets to Twitter.
I never did that.
I never did that.
Nope, nope.
Yeah, that was great.
That was a good time.
It was a good time.
That really showed which one of y'all motherfuckers was sheep and which one were wolves.
Because these motherfuckers were connecting their wallets to Twitter.
I was like, oh yeah, you're definitely going to get rubbed.
You're definitely a link clicker.
A link clicker. A're definitely a link clicker. A link clicker.
A bunch of fucking link clickers.
One of the smug, his smug look.
I can just see his smug face right now.
Ugh, look at those people.
Am I smug?
It's not smug, it's disgust.
I'm fucking disgust.
It's like inside out.
I'm a little green person just like, oh, why are you doing this?
You are the Grinch. I am. I'm a little green person just like, oh, why are you doing this? You are the Grinch.
I am.
I am the Grinch.
I'm the Grinch that stole fucking PFP Christmas.
Hey, man.
Oh, God.
Thank you, Crimp.
No, I'm done.
Green came up.
Crimp is done. Oh, God. Creme is done.
Oh, God. Here we go.
Well, we're trending again. I'm not sure what happened
there, but back on time.
Let's go.
Yay. Right on time. Five minutes
left, guys. Five minutes left. Coolsy, what's good with
you, bro? Answer this question.
Quick. Just chilling.
What's the question here?
God, Coolsy. You've got to be fucking kidding me. No, I got the question. I got the cool you gotta be kidding me no i got i got the
question i got the question you to be honest from my own perspective bro um my in my own experiences
i've i've purchased uh nfts um solely for the based on utility even if i didn't like the art
but then on the other hand i purchased a utility i mean i purchased nfts solely based on on the art
that's worth actually worthless right and i appreciate both of them equally, so I think it's somewhere in the middle, bro.
Thank you,
Koozie. That was a very, very
well-articulated answer,
and I just want to tell Jay,
I fucking told you so.
Told us so.
It's like, the answer is art.
What is utility it's it's rare you're gonna find someone in web 3 that's gonna be one-sided
okay okay so this is the space where everyone listen listen if you guys don't want to come up
could you only be slammed by one?
He's going to joke on you or clown you or whatever.
I'm not slamming nobody.
You can drop in the comments section.
I'm not clowning anyone. Who am I clowning?
I'm only clowning you.
Old school people have their old school ways of thinking.
We get it. Us youngsters,
under 40,
we know and we're more accepting to your answer.
How is my old school way of thinking when I'm literally saying that there is no right answer and that our utility are both evenly can evenly be appreciated?
are both evenly
can evenly be appreciated.
All right, you whippersnappers.
Listen up.
I'm one-sided.
I'm saying my vote's for utility.
I want to use crypto to make money.
If I want to buy art, I'll buy art.
But let's get pumping those bags.
And I want to know what fucking opportunities
for DeFi there are on Solana.
And Pinky's out.
Pinky's out.
Digital?
Physical and digital?
Or no?
Pinky's out.
You know that's very fitting.
In more ways than one.
Pinky's out.
Jay, are you catching this?
That's the wide net.
That's the wide net.
There you go.
He's not going wide enough.
Go wider.
Go wider.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This ain't the Bermuda Triangle.
Listen, we got about two minutes left until this bad boy goes down
all the way down
see the way you said all the way down bro like you just you just need to stop
way before he was like all the way down like he's scuba, deep sea diving for a sunken dollar. Stroke gets it.
She's putting her thumbs down. She likes
the down thing. Listen, we had about
one minute left.
Stroke.
I'm not going to let you put that on Stroke.
She is a pillar of the community.
She's a beautiful person.
For you to slander,
I will not stand for it. I will not stand for it. She is a pillar of the community. She's a beautiful person. And for you to slander her, no, no.
I would not stand for it.
I would not stand for it.
All right?
Stroke shows too much love for you to be a... I heard her come on to curse him out.
I don't know what you're talking about, Ivan.
I did not say...
I'm not trying to beat Stroke to come up to be a speaker.
That's not the kind of person I am.
I don't have to do stuff like that.
If I wanted Stroke to come on, I just asked her to come on.
Simply.
Simply put.
Hey, yo, somebody put a beat on.
I was just going to say, hey, can you play Aura?
One, can you play Aura?
The time is now 11.15, and we started this thing at 9.15.
So, it's about
that time to end
this space. One more
hour. Thank you for stopping by.
None of your questions have been answered.
Yeah, you ain't been here long enough,
bro. Like, come on. What are you talking about? So, we're only
on the second hour. Two hours?
You gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie
numbers. Yeah, come on, bro. Fucking two hours. You trending, Jay. Two hours? You got to pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers. Yeah, come on, bro.
Fucking two hours.
You trending, Jay.
What are you doing?
Two hours?
What are you doing?
Come on.
Get Lady Never Scared up here.
We need a third call.
Oh, wait.
You got Apollo up here.
Never mind.
Motherfuckers.
Nah, I was going to say
we're going to get the third call.
At 11 o'clock at night.
Nah, you know what's going to happen?
Ladies are going to come up.
Stroke's going to come up here.
We're going to rock for another hour.
Right, ladies?
Come on, let's go.
If Stroke comes up right now, you got 10 more minutes.
Oh, and if Lady comes up, that gives me 25.
Nah.
If Lady comes up, I'm going to bed, because she should have been here.
She should have been here.
She had me here hanging out with you this whole damn time. She should have been here. She had me here hanging out with you this whole damn time.
She should have been up here.
Oh my bad.
I forgot you're slumming right now.
Yeah.
I'm on the couch.
That's right.
I'll be on the couch all night.
I can't go upstairs.
I don't think the bedroom.
I think the bedroom door is locked.
Somebody...
She locked you out, Bree? McDonald's earlier and shit. I don't think it bedroom I think the bedroom door is locked Damn she locked you out Brie?
McDonald's earlier
And shit
I don't think it's been right ever since
Talk too loud
Yeah you're definitely not a prince
What?
Just can't full circle on you
You're definitely not a prince
You got locked out
Your own fucking bedroom That's crazy come on jay
that's crazy talk what's going on here it's crazy talk that is crazy talk you should you shouldn't
stand for this i'm not the man of the house i'm not gonna stand for it is that that's right
get that is how it is fucking havoc what's good bro it's like It's like chopped cheese all over again. See?
I think I told you we're not going nowhere.
We're just getting started.
Let's get Mose up here, too.
We're going to get Mose up here.
We're going to get Stroke up here.
We're going to run it up.
Because Mose been here the whole time, and now he want to come up?
Now we're going to bed.
Fuck that.
But if Havoc gets on stage, we give him another five minutes.
Mose been here the whole fucking time. Grind me up here and have a good old time. And I'll give him another five minutes. As long as they've been here the whole fucking...
The mic.
He never came up.
Oh, shit.
What's good, bro?
We got an A.
We got an A.
Chilling.
I saw everybody was in here.
All right.
What other day, Havoc,
that we've been, what's up?
Is it utility that you're in this for
or is it art?
How would you explain that?
Or give your best explanation?
I'm so used to
NFTs not having utility, man.
It almost, you know, like art.
You know?
That's crazy.
Perfect.
Nah, that's a fact. I'm not even mad at that.
That's a fucking nail on the head.
Nail on the head already.
Damn.
You know?
But at the same time, like
we're on
our way to the bar.
What up, boots? we're on the way to the bar I'm driving boots. What do you think about this?
Yeah, so so oh, yeah, yeah
They drive.
Yeah. Focus on the road. Come on.
I'm still in the park.
Yeah, she's still in the park.
A bar called
The Pump House.
The Pump House.
The Pump House.
Yeah, it's a good spot if you want to get into a fight.
No way.
It used to be good. Yeah, it's like a little hole in the wall bar.
It's not a big-ass bar.
A lot of rednecks and shit go there.
The fact that there was that much commotion
and y'all still in park is crazy.
I don't even want to know what it's like when y'all driving.
Are you coming from?
Are you going to?
Because it sounds like you're coming from.
No shit.
We was chilling.
Our homie's got a
Shop he does uh he does like prints and shit
He prints like he does t-shirts fucking
Stickers like all that shit yeah
And he's got his own shop and uh
So he was like yo we're going to we're going to party tonight
We're going to go to the pump house he's like yo come come to the
Shop for a pre-party and shit whatever we're going to kick it
So we was like alright bet shots
Next week we're going on a party bus to the
Casino
Yeah Those party buses are make sure they clean that shit proper So we were like, all right, bad shots. Next week, we're going on a party bus to the casino.
Yeah.
Those party buses are, make sure they clean that shit proper.
Just saying.
No, be safe though, for real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
I usually, well, never mind.
Yeah, I'm going to get in trouble.
Jay's going to mute me and shit.
No, I wanted to hear more about the question.
So, more about the question, yeah. So, like, I mean,
obviously, art or utility, basically.
And I think, you know, I mean,
utility is obviously welcome.
You said obviously?
I mean, I think, man, see,
you know, that really is a tough question.
Like, truthfully, because
honestly, like, if you aininterpreting. Because, honestly,
if you ain't fucking with the artwork,
you ain't going to fuck with the fucking project, really,
that much. You know what I'm saying?
Nobody gets into a project and they're like,
yo, that fucking artwork is ass.
Nobody's jumping into that. If you feel that way,
you're not going to buy into that shit.
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
I will say
I bought some shitty art
For some really good utility
That might be for charity or something
That is
One's got a point there
So like
I found ways to like find a way to
I found ways to like the art
Because of like what was going on in the background
Right?
Like look at all the retardio shit Right? found ways to like the art because of like what was going on in the background right like you're
like it's like it's like well like like look at all the retardio right like i mean look man like
the retardio like that is man i mean that is not like i'm sorry i'm not like turned on by the
retardio like i mean i think it's retarded um and it's it's like you know like ain't nobody
putting that up in their window like i mean i don't know i don't know maybe it's just me i mean i don't know i don't know is that is that the hickstar
you know i mean you know yeah just yeah utilities are nice they don't come around quite as often you
know i mean once a month you got the intention yeah no you gotta pay him once a month yeah
no the uh but yeah i don't
know i don't know man it's dope it's you know like and a lot of people look on a lot of projects
they mean to have utility or they haven't like they mean to like you know produce or provide
certain things right and they they just for whatever happens they don't have the resources
they don't have like the support you know or things just don't come together and they kind
of stall out and they're like you know and they don't know what to do and they just kind of make an exit or they just kind of
Fade away into the fucking back, you know, and everyone's like everyone's like fuck those guys
You know, and that's kind of promise and they under deliver
Yeah, yo boots boots that a good you know boots that you're there for the art
But you stay for the utility. That's a good one. I like that shit. I'm right then. I like that one, too
That was some alpha shit right there wasn't it
I was gonna say I agree with 100% with one because I purchased some shit ass art for the sake of like 2% Revere sharing from the project, you know, I mean for real and I was gonna say I agree with 100% with one because I purchased some shit-ass art for the sake of like 2%
Revereux sharing on the project, you know, I mean for real and I was like, yo, I couldn't even look at it
Even look at it look at it because it was like shit art
Oh, wow
But that 2% look good, right?
Yeah, I'm good. It was damn good bro. Damn good
put you on a milk carton uh
Put you on a milk curtain
not like again like you know i i think that it's it's a very weird nuance right because
there's no like me coming into nfts a lot of it was art and utility there was a there was an
abundance of both you know what i'm saying? Like when, like my first
early experience with NFTs was pre PFP pump, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of, a lot of that
NFT, a lot of that art was really fairly paired with utility, you know what I'm saying? And now,
um, because utilities become a buzzword, I think that people really think that that's what utility is,
that utility is just this thing that founders tend to put out there to incentivize the sale.
And it's more of a marketing ploy than utility. But the early art, there was a lot of fidgetal utility.
There was a lot of like, if you buy this NFT, you'll get a physical piece with it.
There was a lot of augmented reality stuff that was happening.
There was a lot of metaverse connectivity.
You know what I'm saying?
There was a lot of shit that, like sub assets where it was like, yo, if you bought this NFT, you would unlock access
to, because somebody has that access earlier.
I think it was you, Jay.
But access to metaverses, access to digital land, access to wearables, access to digital
events. So, you know, it turned into something else where now it was just like
the cookie cutout answer was like, all right, well, you know, it's a discord and it's a community.
And, you know, like, and everybody was just kind of running and jacking with the same shit.
shit oh you know we'll give you cco rights on the art you know we'll give you um uh what was
Oh, you know, we'll give you CCO rights on the art. You know, we'll give you,
the other one it was a cco rights and there was um po apps there was so many there was wearables
ho apps wearables yeah wearables was a big one as well um especially like another there'd be a B&B dispenser at Tezos. So at the time, you know, like it wasn't just a very vague, open-ended thing.
Like utility actually meant something.
I feel like with an abundance of projects that rubbed and under-delivered, utility turned into a buzzword, but it didn't start off like that. I feel like
at least when I first was learning about NFTs, a lot of this shit was tied to a really dope utility.
You know what I'm saying? So again, it's really on a case by case basis. I feel like everyone's
Web3 experience is kind of like one of those
your own adventure books, right?
Because we all, everybody goes a different path.
Some people kind of like stay true to like the purists, they stay true to like the art.
And those are the, those were like the foundation and the Tezos people.
And then you have like the PFP fucking renaissance that fucking spearheaded a lot of the shit that was happening
on Ethereum and the shit that started to happen on Solana when Solana really got kicking in the
NFT game. So again, it's just about what side of the fucking fence you're on. Are you on the fence
of like the finer art? Are you on the fence of the PFP side of it, you know, in the degenerate? Or, you know,
are you kind of like in between? Like some people are like a little bit of both. Like I've found
myself purchasing PFPs based off of, you know, community proximity and utility or liking the art.
And then I still find myself picking up like one of one pieces or kind of like playing around on Tezos.
You know, like I'm kind of like starting to scratch the surface on like XRP music.
So, you know, there's there's a lot of different a lot of different nuances to this.
Use cases.
Ivan.
Yeah. Jumping off of what one just said,, I remember the reason that I wanted to stay in NFTs in the beginning, and it was because of the volume of the community.
was the artists that I knew IRL from the events that I was doing,
they weren't really learning how to put their art into what we still was referring to Web2 at the time.
So them creating a website and kind of selling their art on a website that,
I forget the names of them, but you guys will remember right off the bat,
but Rarible and some of them that weren't even on the website that, you know, I forget the names of them, but you guys will remember right off the bat, but, you know, Rarible and some of them that weren't even, you know, on the blockchain yet. But at that time, if you had a big community, you were into something. If you knew anything
about the blockchain and why you wanted to get it to NFTs. Everyone wants to make money. So that was the initiative.
So if you're not figuring out how to create funds through doing this,
then what are you doing?
So if a community is pitching a project,
and that project is an asset that has a floor value
and the floor value continues to go up,
then that was something that had value.
Community officially was the utility,
technically speaking. And then the trends just started. I think someone mentioned it earlier,
like Bored Apes, when they first dropped, it was like, no one's going to buy that.
Crypto Pucks, no one's going to buy that. World of Women had more of an impact than those two
projects, but they weren't,
floor prices weren't going up, but they had popularity.
It was just the whole big thing going on.
Where we're at today, if I ask Havoc, the friends you're going to the bar with,
do any of them know or go on Twitter or mess with crypto or know anything of NFTs?
It would be a very low percentage
because nobody gives a shit about twitter when it comes to blockchain you know and uh what you
said have it there but nobody gives a shit about twitter when it comes to blockchain because if
you look at the traffic volume on on, it's mostly politics and news.
It became mass media more than CNN, more than Fox, you know, and all of that.
So, you know, we're still not even at the peak of what blockchain and cryptography has done to this industry.
So we're a really small market on these spaces.
Speaking of what our perspectives
are. And, you know, when you get real, what I call realism is like, you know, I knew one from
when I first started and he hasn't changed his perspective since he started. That to me is the
majority, the new people who come on here and try to pump bags like Iceland was asking and stuff like that, that's becoming the trend. And soon it will overlap everything that we're doing now. And it will be the emphasis. It will be the majority. So everybody's hitting it. And it depends on how you came into this.
Twitter shouldn't be the only Web3 experience, but how you came into this you know twitter shouldn't be the only web3 experience but
how you came into this web3 experience that's facts i think there's gonna we're seeing a bit
of a resurgence in some of these like remember it was crypto voxels it was this a lot of things
changed names decentraland right see what what meant something kyber ai meant something completely
different years ago than it does now
as did certain da vinci's or whatever but if you if you sit and look at it
with and go through it with a fine tooth comb or whatever it's like all all this has existed
for a long time and so these buzzwords uh like use case and utility those might go hand in hand but they can be two
different things and so then you have new chains whether it's sweet or blah blah blah and there's
usually like bats basic attention tokens and these certain utilities eth gas fees people don't
understand your processing power your guai all this stuff's going to factor into uh you're going
to have your bag if you're going to look to snatch one, speaking of, what up?
It's like closing talk first and then I'll, I'll come up.
I know. I just wanted my, you guys were making some great points, man. Um,
you know, there's so many, too many to really even, um, to address,
but I wanted to say a one, one with one said, um,
it was word for word, my experience with nfts you know uh how it
used to be and what it is now and how i find myself buying uh buying you know to get in proximity to
other communities and stuff like that so it was just you know it was a very concise i have to
agree 100 everything you said was was my own experience it was dude it was mirrored for real
and creme as well as creme one of the points that he made what things used to mean
is definitely changed certain projects things that were that actually had massive utility back
in the days i kept falling to ruin and things like maybe shiba inu which began as a meme token
became its own blockchain and it has has i would i mean you know it's still building out but but
i understand 100 what you mean so it was a great point as well. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut anyone.
No, you're good. And I was going to say, I think the words utility and value are interchangeable, right?
Because when I'm making NFTs, I'm thinking about what value I can add to those NFTs that will incentivize collectors, right?
can add to those NFTs that will incentivize collectors, right? Especially with my music
NFTs, because they're kind of multi-layered, right? So part of it is access, right? You get
access to the music, you get the rights to record on them. And then there's also the physical
component, because you have the visual art that comes with it, right? So sometimes that's a part of it. Another part is that I attach physical assets to those digital assets. So I'm
giving away a physical piece with a digital piece. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes it's one for
one. Sometimes it's your NFT can act as like a raffle, a raffle ticket, you know what I'm saying? When I decide to do a giveaway.
So all of that is value.
So whether the person values the, so that said utility is a value.
Whether the people see the value in the rights to the music, whether people see the value in the physical art, whether they see the value in just supporting me, right? Because that's part
of it as well. I always tell artists, a big part of marketing yourself as an artist is building a
rapport with people and telling people your story because nobody wants to buy something from someone
they don't know, realistically. No one's just going to buy
your NFT because they think that it's cool if they don't know you, if they haven't heard your
story, if there's no way for them to resonate with you. And a lot of that comes with the way
that you carry yourself here in spaces, the rapport that you keep, the relationships that
you build and all of that. But all of that all falls into that value proposition. And that value proposition is
utility. You know, so again, whether it's the art, whether it's access to the music,
whether it's access to the digital or physical collectible, you know, all of that plays into
it. And that's why this is not a very black and white conversation.
And there's so many gray areas because everyone's experience here is different and everyone values something different.
You know, so, again, when people say, well, what is utility? Utility is whatever you can attach to this to that asset that creates a value proposition for the collector.
I don't want to cut anyone, but I said, say one, I like the way you think, bro.
Thank you. Yeah. I'm noticing there's these, you know, you can buy like tiles, a tile
of a house. Now put it in a digital LAN, right?
Blender or whatever they call that shit.
Have it 16-bit, different bit rates,
and retro's coming back.
What was cool in the 90s,
that shit's making its way to the youth.
And so that part about it's kind of cool.
And I think there's a down and an upside.
That's not even what I was going to say either.
But also like processing speed. I don't think a lot of these games, cool and i think there's a down and upside that's not even what i was going to say either but uh
oh also like processing speed i don't think a lot of these games i'm glad have havoc you could say
but i think a lot of these games a lot of them can only handle five to ten people before you get
booted you know and so maybe 30 years from now children's children or something like who knows
but uh there will be something to hand down but clicking links uh
just be careful what you click out here you know know what you're clicking
go ahead have it yo oh no no one asked me a minute ago if he he was like yo if anybody in
the bar and then i'm going to the bar with if anybody knows about crypto twitter and shit and
nfts and i i gotta say one person does you know
one of the by well i mean it's not from boots but six other people yeah one of them does know
one of them with i'm trying to bring him i'm trying to honor me he knows about it but he
ain't like in and you know he's a cool motherfucker i'm trying to bring him in
but yeah yeah to answer your question one i think that was directed to me
I think that was directed to me.
Want him to jump you in?
Jump into Twitter?
Want him to jump into Twitter?
You want to jump into Twitter?
You want to jump into Twitter?
Anyway, back to you, Jay.
Do me one sound alike?
I was thinking this. Do me and one sound alike?
I was thinking like
that's funny.
I think Jay's falling asleep.
Jay, we put you to bed, bro.
Jay said, fuck it.
She should come out here and start yelling.
Oh, it's CEO in the building.
You know, Jay's going to rug the space mid-sentence.
No, that's facts.
No, but I think, what was it?
What's the buzzword?
There was like non-custodial wallets and all this other stuff.
I think if you really want to, like like there's just so many options out there of all the options
i've seen are weave for web 2 stuff is is great just to house uh art uh probably all sorts of
things you can house whatever over there it just takes uh some copy and pasting so and the fact that it started as a dumpster
project is kind of interesting as well but not everybody's into the same shit so the wider net
you cast um i think the more angling you can do out here to um to make it work out for you as an
indie artist and whatever it is you do you don't have to be an artist right there's a lot of people
that just want to do code.
They enjoy it, so.
And then others are going to do it
because they have to just to sustain.
I think, like,
just because of the way everyone's saying things,
is like, we haven't really taken advantage. Like us, like,
even if you don't consider yourself a DJ, we're all here.
We've been here for more than two years. We're DJs. So, you know,
we're like the new era to what's about to come.
And I can't wait till we take advantage of the significance of a DAO and smart contracts.
Because if we as a collective just pushed one project for, let's say, a year, the retail would adopt it as if it were CryptoPunks or Apes.
And they wouldn't even know what they're buying or why they're buying.
what they're buying or why they're buying.
They would just do it because the masses.
They would just do it because the masses.
But if a DAO was involved with the right smart contracts,
then everyone in the space will reap the benefits of it.
We wouldn't have to worry about what dev is getting,
what percentage is getting,
what everyone's getting their part.
Yeah, and so many DAOs have failed.
Or, you know, Noun know nouns dow is pretty cool i just i'm noticing a
lot of a lot of things outside of the the u.s are are further ahead in that regard
yeah decentralized the organization yeah i just want to say for the record that rocky 2 grimy agrees with me for the record i don't
jay connecticut is falling asleep
for the record art wins good night everybody Art wins. Good night, everybody.
Nah, I'm just fucking with you.
I guess we'll never know.
Because never scared never gave her answer.
Blame.
Never scared for 2026.
That's going to be the new thing.
I'll make sure I say that for now on.
That's her fault.
Somebody text me?
I'm like the cabooseose I came in on the end
so I'm like I'm so
you know when it's like the Mad Libs
have you ever done this
where you add like in something in
and you come in and you hear something like
okay
I have no idea
what just happened
I don't know
give me your answer and I'm going to bed.
Yo, was somebody just playing like a
TikTok stream? What the fuck was that?
What? Yeah. We just
started it. It's the Madlib.
I'm going to
sleep again.
I was so confused, man. He said again.
I slipped right through Crim
Right through Crim's conversation
I'm back though
Moonbeam could you just answer this question
And maybe I'll play back to space and hear
Whatever you're talking about
Do what now?
What's on the joke?
That's what I said I was a caboose
I came in at the end I had no idea what you were talking about.
Have you ever done it?
Don't worry about what they're talking about.
It's not important.
If you could just answer what's on the Jumbotron, that is important.
What matters more, art or utilities?
Just do me that favor.
Appreciate it.
Say that again.
What is the question?
What matters more, art or utilities? What matters more, art or utilities?
What matters more, art or utilities?
The art.
Because the art is what brings the utility.
And with that, I think we had a great show, guys.
Thank you, Moon, for bringing it home.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
That's what one was saying the entire time.
What was one saying, Ivan?
Exactly that.
He started off with saying that first.
Yeah, that's how he got here, I think.
That's exactly how he got here.
And you cut him off.
You didn't cut Moonbeam off, but you cut him off.
No, I got cut off.
You didn't hear it?
I haven't been one of my best friends. You didn't cut Moonbeam off, but you cut him off. No, I got cut off. You didn't hear it? Ivan is kind of out of the pan.
Ivan and one are like best friends.
I guess they're from the same city.
They moved to Florida.
And this is the mentality that they have.
Anything one says, Ivan backs.
And then he finds out he's wrong.
And he goes, shit.
Listen, I don't think it's just Ivan.
Because I feel like Krem and Kulzi
both
backed me up as well.
Exactly.
I did cut a move.
Nobody caught that.
You cut Krem off
when he first came laughing.
Didn't even let him finish talking.
Because he agreed with one.
Kulzi,
you let him speak because he answered his first part in his second sentence.
You're catching on.
You're not letting Moonbeam finish because he started off like one.
They're in Connecticut.
It's all jokes.
He's getting it, guys.
You can't pull a fastball knife, but he got it.
Figure it out.
So you got that moonbeam finish?
I was already done.
I posted my fire picture.
I just made a fire video for the fire inspector, but it's so long.
I just posted it, but it keeps not downloading it.
And I just picked it.
I was just going through some of the stuff that I could see.
That was the first time I actually just went through it.
That was crazy.
Hey, Boobie, you want to see some dope fire videos?
I'll send you some fire videos right now.
No, my house is caught on fire, Havoc, and I just
lost everything. So no, no, no, no, no. I don't want
to see some cool fire videos. I love you, love you, love you.
I lost everything.
I love you, Havoc.
No, it's not your fault.
But it's just, I'm trying to download this video.
And I guess because it's too long.
I don't know.
Did you say fire?
Yeah, my whole house caught on fire.
Well, the basement.
You'll see the video whenever it decides to download.
But yeah, you'll see it.
I've lost everything.
Now the upstairs, it did not catch on fire. I've lost everything now the upstairs the upstairs
It did not catch on fire, but I was there and the smoke was so bad
My ex-husband came by for I don't even know what reason
And I was asleep and I heard the fire alarms and I got up and everything was smoky. I thought I died
But wait your ex came back no reason and then your house caught
My children live in an apartment on the same land
so he was probably coming by to see them i don't know but thank god he did because he yelled he
was like get out of the house it's getting ready to explode i was like i can't see because i'm
disabled i'm on medication i couldn't see anything so um he bashed in the window like batman and and
dragged me out of there but if i would have been there one more minute there's no way i would have made it but i took a video because i have to for the fire
inspector and i've tried to download it on here but i guess it's just too long so i may have to
cut it but yeah i'll my yeah you'll see it i don't even want to talk about it makes me just
yeah no i didn't mean to pry but hope you will yeah well i put i have a cash app thing
and but 3 000 people have seen it if every one of those 3 000 would have left a dollar i know i
would make it past christmas so think about that when you see it just leave a dollar because if
everybody leaves a dollar i know i'll be able to get gas for my generator you know i'll be able to
get things for my kids stuquan has helped me you know beamer's
helped me stormborns helped me quite there's another gentleman to help me you know so there
are people that are helping but i literally just people could just send a generator too right
i have a generator oh you do i don't need a generator i'm living on gas
of the generator which is very expensive yeah and i've i've got a lot of clothes people have been
throwing clothes at me and i have another girl that is uh she's let me order a bunch of stuff
off amazon you know but it's i don't think you understand i like all the money that we would
have gotten for the house or whatever like for the insurance is on hold because her insurance company is not paying her because she's
in trouble. She's under
investigation, which makes it harder
for me and I can't pay for
anything.
But I do have food.
I have a food thing that I have.
It's going to take months anyway when you have a fire and a
plan. You got to go in through every single
paperclip. They said each paperclip
that's going to take over a year and a half. It to go in through every single paper clip they said each paper clip that's going
to over a year and a half it took for the tools and i you know i don't even like talking they've
been here every day yeah they're really nice that's why i told her i have the videos and
and she knows she's like you know a lot about fires i said yeah i know a couple firemen
but i in the video you'll be able to see what happened. Because she was already, the landlord was already warned about the hot weather heater.
And when you see the video, you'll see.
And I started smelling like electrical.
And I was like, I know I'm getting ready to have electrical fire.
And I told my ex-husband to tell her.
And obviously, she didn't listen again.
And bam, you know, bam.
That's about it.
God saved me.
And you guys, the people that love me here and pray for
me and care for me every day that's the only way i don't even see how i'm alive you know those pilot
lights with gas propane doesn't matter you get one little leak it's just gonna it'll blow you
out of a door that's shut or a window so yeah. Be careful. It won't download the video.
I'll have to cut it.
Yeah, it's scary.
But, like, I just, when I just went through it, I found, you'll see it on the video.
I just follow my eyes out.
I found, like, my son has, like, every Hot Wheels car ever.
Like, he's got, like, the whole collection.
And they're just melted like a collage.
It was a little emotional
but y'all are going to cheer me up right now, right?
You're going to say a joke, right? Yes.
Yes, you're going to say a joke because I love you guys.
You're going to make me laugh, right? Yes, Jay said yes.
Right?
So yeah,
if y'all want to throw a dollar in the cash app pot,
do you?
Cash app is attached to your profile right yes sir it is i do paypal too but it's really whatever i mean i don't care if somebody sends me 50 cents
it's gonna add up if like i said 3 000 people that seen it if they would have all sent a dollar
i know i'd be okay for a couple. Say less. I love you guys.
But when you see the video, you're going to hear me crying.
It's a life experience
that you don't want to go through.
I pray none of you ever go through.
I'm still kind of shocked.
I don't really know how I made it out.
But when you see the upstairs, no fire is upstairs.
It started coming up through this
um through the floor but if you ever have fire extinguisher get more than one because these
things don't last long at all i love you guys they'll have to make me laugh it's all love over
here i'm gonna say good night to everyone even though moody nuts decided to come back up
with a different profile she said make her laugh and jay's like yeah i'm going to say goodnight to everyone, even though Moody now decided to come back up with a different profile.
Damn, she said make her laugh, and Jay's like, yeah, I'm going to sleep. Goodnight.
You ain't shit, Jay.
Yo, I never came up. You must be tired, man.
You never came up? Okay. Yeah, we're doing that tonight.
All right.
Moody, do you want to answer the question?
Yo, utility.
Use case.
So can I's value.
I just value.
Utility, man.
Doberancy.
I've been building my business for a few years now, and I decided to drop NFTs.
It's utility.
You know what I'm saying?
But even when you have utility, people like to buy rugs.
So it is what it is
You know I ain't seen you in the squirrel say you've just been you've just been grinding on the project
No, IRL I got a new part-time. So I've just been focused
Good to see you. Yeah shout out to the fiat miners you know what i'm saying
yeah you gotta you gotta mind fiat you feel me you can't can't just be out here trying to pull from
the ethers of crypto got to extinguish the gas fires for moonbeam man, everything's been dipping, man. I hope everybody's been accumulating
or at least trying
It's time in the market,
not timing the market always.
Let's compound that Warren Buffett.
DCA, baby.
It's the move.
Don't be scared to docks yourself
Docs I forgot
Back to your other profile movie
If you want people to
Sounds like you're spreading FUD, Jay.
Oh, am I?
Am I hunting for FUD?
You can't FUD the move, bro.
Is that what I'm doing?
Jay's spreading FUD.
Is that what's happening here?
FUD Hunter?
FUD Hunter?
Yeah, that's my intern.
That guy, he needs to post more.
Oh, Fudhunter is your intern?
Yeah, he's slacking.
But he does a good job.
He's the one that said both?
That was his answer.
Yeah, see?
He likes hot dogs.
He can't choose
Yo hot dogs on pizza as well
I fucking hate Kane
Who said that?
Kane
Kane said
These niggas like hot dogs on their pizza
That's spam
That's spamming
That's a joke
That's both
That's a horrible
I mean it's spam literally like don't click that link
Right that's what I mean
Spam is horrible
I'm going to bed
Magic carpets I see where this is going I'm staying up bed Magic carpets
I see where this is going
I'm staying up until 1 o'clock in the morning
Go to bed, yeah
Appreciate you guys for showing up late
As always
I can count on my friends to never be on time
I was here early bro
I don't know what you're talking about
I've been here the whole ride
You're welcome
You're welcome I You're welcome.
I was ungrateful.
I sent my intern in earlier.
One has been here the whole time.
I have. I've been here from the very start, bro.
Do you think we're going to take a shot?
Do you not see his PFP?
It says one.
It started with him.
Oh, here we go. Yeah, I want whatever he's smoking
Yo, bro, fire genetics. We just got fucking great fucking harvest
Are you shilling something I'm not I'm not gonna hold you on you guys definitely I. I gotta text you too because the whole East Coast is lit right now.
We lit.
It's a shill.
He's shilling marijuana
so it's okay.
It's not a shill.
Jay, my apologies, man.
I ain't gonna lie. I woke back up
just to come over here and say
what's up to y'all and say goodnight.
I ain't gonna lie. I over here and say what's up to y'all say good night. You know, I'm saying I ain't gonna lie
I was here in spirit. I promise I was look I woke up and I was in the soul on chain space on the panel still and the shit
Surprised me so much that I somehow not myself off the panel
I was like, what am I still doing here? Did I say something did the mic open while I was like, what the fuck? I was like, what am I still doing here?
Did I say something?
Did the mic open while I was asleep?
No, man.
Blessings, man.
I just wanted to come up here and fuck with y'all real quick, man.
Much love to all y'all, man.
Big blessings, man.
Happy holidays.
I hope everybody's families are doing well.
Like, real talk, man.
And yeah, man, kiss your loved ones, hug your loved ones, and tell somebody you miss them
or whatever it is that you do to make somebody smile, man. Blessings, man. And yeah, man, kiss your loved ones, hug your loved ones, and tell somebody you miss them or whatever it is that you do
to make somebody smile, man. Blessings,
man. And Havoc.
You know you my nigga, bro. Havoc.
I've been going through it, bro.
Just me and Havoc. Havoc knows what I'm talking
about. I've been going through it, bro.
But like, yo, let's chop it up, man.
Yeah, I appreciate
you, Beamer.
He's a sweetheart.
Yeah, no, Jay, big love, Jay.
I appreciate you pulling up earlier, Jay, for real.
Good to see you, Beamer.
Beeps do radio.
Oh, you know what?
My co-host, One, and Apollo,
you always got to get love to the co-host, man.
Keep that shit 100.
I got to teach some of these newbies out here.
I got to make sure I do this shit respectfully.
Hey, respectfully yours, man.
This is your guys' space, man.
I'm passing the mic back over to you OGs, man.
Big shout out to One Guy Beats, Apollo J.
I love you guys, man.
Have a blessed night, man.
Hey, man, you can't spell One Guy Beats without the OG.
You feel me?
Exactly. You know what I'm gonna call it a night Oh Hold up, hold up, Jay, hold up. How many profiles you bringing up to my stage?
I'm bringing everybody up, man. I don't care.
How many interest you got?
Who's interest is this?
Do we have to take a Christmas carol or something?
You got room.
Hey, what is it? It's 1157. I'm about to invite the other side of the world now.
The other side of the world?
What are you doing?
Fiji.
The other side.
The other side. The other side. The other side. the world is there another side of it's round We got it we got to do a fire router
Twitter next time Can spheres be flat
And if they're not spinning
If it's not spinning
It could have been
But it's not really flat
Because you think about the water and the ocean
It's not really circular either
So it's kind of like whatever
I think it's kind of like whatever
The water in the ocean
Yeah if you take the water out
Then the land's not circular.
If you notice it, it weighs.
Yeah.
Imagine a cup of water
and when you just slowly
tremor it.
Yeah, that's what the moon does.
That's why we have it.
We're just vibrating out here.
We are.
That cup of water is filled with my tears for this conversation. We're just vibrating out here We are That couple water
Is filled with my tears
For this conversation
Alright goodnight everybody
Goodnight
Goodnight
Goodnight
I appreciate you
Oh my god
King Boo Boo
What a boo boo.
Oh, King Boo Boo gave that to wrap.
All right, Darius.
Great job at Art Council, by the way.
I saw you performing.
I wanted to give you that shout out earlier.
And a shout out to Wizard also.
Much love.
But we out of here, man.
After party at King Boo Boo Space.
You got to get King Boo Boo.
He's just waking up.
You got to get his perspective before you go.
King Boo Boo's perspective?
Is that everyone else?
No, we're going to be here all night.
He's going to say art anyway.
Let him up.
Just see what he says real quick.
No, no. I know it's going to be art,
so there's no point in me letting him up.
You got to let him up, bro. You got to let him up.
He's going to say art, bro.
I know Boo Boo, bro.
I know what he's going to say.
What's going on, bro?
Who's going to play?
I came late, bro.
My camera is slow.
I came late to the party My camel is slow, bro.
I came late to the party.
What, you're closing the party?
You didn't have a channel?
It just started.
New channel. What about you up here, bro?
Call him out.
It was definitely me.
I'm life of the party, and we're gonna be here.
What is going on?
So what, you're closing this?
Ask him to close the space. No, he said one more hour. And we gonna be here what is going on so what you're closing this Wow
That's fucking dope bro. You got I've been up in you got me you got cool
Z you got all the gang, you know come on. Oh another hour is more than suitable
unsuitable. Jay, ask
Jay ask him the question Jay
him the question, Jay.
Yeah, Jay, ask him the question.
What's your job?
Based on Web 3.
Yeah, the question
I'm on Jumbotron right now.
Simply, what matters more?
Art or utilities?
Ooh.
Ooh. Ooh.
Ooh.
Depends what you're looking for as well, right?
Thank you, sir.
Wait.
Wait, Juan.
He paused.
That was the end of the day.
No, let him finish.
Cook.
Cook, my bro.
Cook.
You said, thank you, sir.
See?
You see that, Ivan?
He pulled the J-Connects. But you said nothing. No, you not even let him finish. First of all, he muted. You said, thank you, sir. See? You see that, Ivan? He pulled the J-Connects.
But you said nothing.
No, you not even let him finish.
First of all, he muted.
He muted.
He's not there and let him do it.
And then I thanked him.
He muted, sir.
He answered the question and then muted.
No, no, no.
He muted after I said.
You see what you did, Warren?
No, he did not say anything.
But King Boo Boo, please continue.
Mike was open.
Continue, sir.
It's alright, I just sometimes get scared when people interrupt me, and you sound Latin, and I know you guys are as violent and agro.
I'm Arab. I'm so innocent.
I think, man, listen, honestly, if the artist is the language of love, too, bro.
Yo, did this nigga say?
No, that was me.
I just need to make sure that I heard.
Wow, the disrespect is real, bro.
I just need to make sure I heard what I heard.
So you guys are white people, speakers, and then you mute them?
No, he just...
Did he just say that he was scared because I sound Latin and violent?
I thought he was joking.
Not violent.
I go.
I go.
Stabby.
Stabby.
I go.
Wait, how do you meet the white people?
No, my bad.
I guess I'm not on mute.
That's your man.
Go get your mans.
That's your mans right there.
All right.
No, on a serious note, jokes aside,
sometimes, bro, the art itself can hold up the whole project.
Honestly, there's some NFT projects that their art is so beautiful.
You're like, I don't care about any utilities.
I just like the art, right?
I don't care if I get wrong. And having that said, you're like, all right, I don't care if I get wrong.
No, some people, listen, this is the thing.
This is the thing.
Take my money.
Yeah, some people actually buy it.
They're like, hey, I got the art.
I like the people behind this.
Let me touch my ankles, please.
And that's it.
Yeah, exactly.
They're like, yeah, whatever, man.
I don't care about, like, if it goes up, goes down.
I'm not selling it.
I'm keeping the art piece.
I like it, you know.
Some people are like that.
Some people might be like, no, I want to buy this beautiful art piece and see if I can flip it cool
But other people what nah, I don't care what art it is
It could look like a doo-doo dog shit literally take a picture of a dog shit, but I want the utilities behind it
I don't care. It's a dog shit. Anyways, the anyways the project is dark but where is the utilities
i want you to take off my underwear daily i want you to rub my hair when i need to
i want you to walk my dogs i want you to say like no don't tie the dog there and the donkey
tie the donkey there and then come back here work for your, and then go tie your donkey again. Some people love the utilities, right?
Oh, wow!
Wow!
Who has a game?
Wow!
We own a gaming company, yeah.
Wow!
My donkey, please.
Well, what is it?
I mean, what is the Mona Lisa utility?
You guys don't have donkeys over there.
Does Mona Lisa have a utility utility?
The Mona Lisa is actually owned by an Arab,
just to let you guys know.
It's not there.
That's a fake one. Oh, the Mona Lisa. But owned by an Arab, just to let you guys know. It's not there, because that's a fake one.
Oh, the Mona Lisa, yeah.
But it does have utility.
I mean, what made it that rich?
You know what I mean?
Like Picasso or Da Vinci.
Da Vinci used to paint with blood.
What's his utility?
But they don't care about the art.
They care about the utility behind the art.
They're like, ah, this is just a ticket to get into this or to get this for free.
Or maybe I'll get off.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's what I like to do.
No, wait, wait. Did I
misunderstand the question?
No, you didn't misunderstand the question.
There is no wrong
answer to this question. There is a wrong answer to this question there is a wrong answer to this question
no you dictator what the hell bro jay's trying to run you honestly bro there's no wrong answer
i'll tell you why it's fucking people's money bro someone can tell you hey bro i don't want
burning 50 bucks i don't buy i'm earning 100k
i want to pay those key people behind that project 500 dollars because i like them right
some people are like no this is like a journey to me i met this community and buying into it is 30
dollars fuck that that's a cheeseburger double meal for me bro somewhere you know i'll just get
into this community so there's no right answer because at the end of the day everyone is entitled to their money and crypto no one went
there with a gun and told them buy and do this you're forced to buy this or you're out of this
fucking crypto thing let's be honest no one told you to confirm no one told you to double confirm
no one told anyone to buy like if they're buying something
They want to buy it if they regret it later on
I think you bought a lot of t-shirts or clothes some stuff in your life and you're like ah fuck
That doesn't actually look nice on me. I fucking hate this t-shirt
It was expensive as fuck and then you just have to wear it because you're like fuck you're expensive
I'm just wearing you to try to depreciate you, but I actually don't like you
All right, but you might wear and someone said one day. Wow nice shirt or someone might call you you're a. I'm just wearing you to try to depreciate you, but I actually don't like you. Right?
But you might wear it and someone says one day, wow, nice shirt.
Or someone might call you, you're a faggot, bro.
But it is what it is, you know?
Sometimes life is a box of chocolates.
Run, Forrest, run.
Da Vinci's utility was, uh, their blood was O negative.
I love it.
It wouldn't matter.
But that's why I say art because I'm not, when it comes to, like, I love communities. And when I get my millions one day, I'm going to buy a little bit of everything because I love them.
But, and I like the utilities behind them, but I like the art too.
If I really don't like your art i'm really really probably
not even gonna buy it if you've got like the the coolest utility in the world unless you're
gonna give me a million dollars every week you know then that's a utility that i'd probably buy
something that looked like just a string or something so yeah you're right there is no right
or wrong answer yep yep and and that's the narrative
this week that you know
get out of here with your cheap
NFTs and
you know what can I do with the
art if you can't do nothing with it
it's not worth shit so that being
said everybody have a
great night
communist
what's going on
Jay Hiller Communist jail
By the way, cool. He knows how to make dolphin sounds if you guys don't know do it
Embarrass me Flipper You're trying to embarrass me around here, man
Come on bro, you did it in my space my space had more warriors and alpha males in here
I don't know what I don't know what he's talking about. Make that dolphin sound. I fuck dolphins and I fuck with dolphins.
Yeah, I fuck with dolphins.
Yo, what's up?
I'm going to say dolphins are cool as fun.
Well, I think I heard someone say dolphins rape people.
Boy, did y'all get
one off topic.
I don't think anybody said that I said, hey, boots.
I don't think that sounds like that.
Boots got lots of shoutouts.
Boots dropped some fucking alpha earlier.
Taurus, I don't know.
Probably when my bags are down
because I don't listen to Boots.
Wait if I was to talk for me to hear. Probably when my bags are down because I don't listen to booze. I still want some of that birds.
Come on, Coolsy.
Do that.
