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Reality Check: GigaMode
Recorded: March 23, 2026 Duration: 2:38:03Space Recording
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Thank you. The Red Sox are the world champions.
For the first time in 86 years, the Red Sox have won baseball championship.
Can you believe it?
Tessie is the royal rooters rally cry.
Tessie is the tune they always sung.
Tessie echoed April through October nights,
passed a serenade and stardomated yard.
Tessie is a maiden with a sparkling eyes.
Tessie is a maiden with a love.
She doesn't know the top of the top. This is the time when the game is on the line, Tessie always carried them away, up the road
from Birkbeck to Huntington, the boys you know we sing and swear, two, three, four,
Tessie, I said, he's charming, but not yet, that's a child, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child,
I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child, I'm a child,
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McGreeby led the charge into the park, stormed the gates and put the game on.
The Rooters gave the other team a dreadful fright.
The Boston's Man cannot be wrong
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Don't blame myself, I'm not touching
You're the only one in the way
I've got to stay
You're the only one in the way
I'll roll on to the side
Lose, give me the other two a triple
From my head wants to Seth Seth man could not be wrong
I'm from third base to hunting
Time, returning another victory
For two, three, three, four, two
I think I'll stay with me starting
When I hit a missile round
Once the man in the middle of the world If I hit a problem, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud, I'm so proud Oh No! Hey!
Hey!
GM, everyone!
GM, GM, GM.
Not just GM, G-Giga.
G-Giga Chad Jesus.
G-Giga.
G-Giga Chad Cheeses. Giga Giga Chad
an idiot.
And I guess good morning
to you too, Kenny. Good morning,
Kenny Powers. Yo, I'm just here for the
glazing. Count me in.
Good
morning.
Yeah, I was trying to have
some fun this morning morning but it didn't
i couldn't get it i didn't think about it in time but i was trying to get sora to create a song
uh talking about the giga chadness but it didn't it didn't come in yeah it just didn't come into
play uh fast enough and i had a work call and couldn't but man it was structurally it
was there it was like it was great it was about 90 of the way there so yeah uh unfortunately it
just didn't happen but anyways uh gm everyone welcome in live on abstract of course, kick, and where else are we live at?
X, YouTube,
like all over the joint.
Yeah, I'm on Twitch somewhere. I couldn't even tell you what my
Twitch handle is, but it is necessary
for me to be on air, so
I'm on Twitch.
Watch me on abstract.
Is it like forward slash an idiot?
Maybe.
That's what it should be for your Twitch.
It's K-Y-L-3-Mania.
Oh, Kyle3mania.
There you go.
So go follow him there.
Yeah, if you want to.
I mean, I don't really Twitch.
You don't really Twitch that much?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, look, I'm from the generation of actually playing the video games instead of watching people play the video games.
So, yeah, I didn't really get onto Twitch too much.
Call me crazy.
I actually like to push the buttons myself.
I don't know.
Call me crazy.
Bro, these high offers on Abstract with the way...
Because, like, right now, it's showing the top offer on Zeke cards is $18.18.
Yeah, what is that?
So, it has my Abstract balance, like, all fucking wild.
I was like, what?
I know, dude.
Mine is out of hand right now.
I'm like, bro, I ain't got this much money on chain let alone in Z cards.
I know, I know.
Gmer, that sucks
bro. That sucks.
Gmer was on a
23 day streak
and lost it.
This is what I'm talking about with this thing.
It's easy to fuck it up. It's easy to
miss it for one day by accident.
You got to stay locked in, guys.
Just set a day.
Like, I don't get it.
Like, maybe it's just me and I'm dumb.
But I get up every morning and I have, like, a routine of platforms that I check in on.
We all get up.
We go to the toilet.
You go wherever. You go to make your coffee.
Most people are opening their X
and seeing what is going on.
Like, set a reminder that just says at,
you know, it resets at 11 o'clock Eastern every day.
And just set a reminder that says,
go to Abs at 11 in upvote i mean i know it sucks
i had to wait a few days because i was voting every week i would re-vote i would vote uh like
every app even though kyle hates that i do that but I just, I wait until 11 o'clock.
Now, of course, we do the show every day at 11 o'clock.
There's another thing, bro.
Well, we're not live seven days a week.
I was going to say if we were live seven days a week, we're here.
Then you wouldn't miss it.
But yeah, that sucks.
He said, I swear I did it, but I guess not.
The space is my reminder.
I'm sorry.
I would tell you to do two.
I go through and every week I upvote every app
and I leave seven of them left undone.
That way I have enough to get me through each day
because they do reset each week.
Now I'm going to leave 14 of them alone and I'm going to have,
and I'm going to do two upvotes a day.
That way,
if the first one doesn't go through the second one does,
but if the clock disappears by rewards,
then you've done it.
So yeah,
I don't know.
Maybe they'll make a change to it.
Who knows?
I just,
I don't know.
I just think it'd be better
to do it on a on a weekly yeah basis yeah maybe so all your favorite apps i think most people
probably touch more than seven platforms on abstract if they're on abstract anyway or at
least they're a big enough fan to hit the upvote like yeah you know i mean when i go to the discover
page like before i mean i was upvoting it's just i mean look when I go to the Discover page, like before, I mean, I was upvoting.
It's just I mean, look, I would hit the upvote on Maze of Gains, Tolanverse, Borian, Z, Gigaverse, even Moody Madness.
I haven't played it yet, but I'm aware of it.
Roach Racing Club.
I don't play that, but like I like the idea of it.
I know a lot of people do, you know, on-ain Heroes, Dili, OpenSea, like Bitcoin.
I would upvote a lot more apps overall if I didn't have to upvote one every day.
Yeah.
You would upvote Bitcoin?
Yeah, I would even upvote Bitcoin.
Bitcoin was lit at first, and I still think, you know, I mean, you know, at some point, if things get to the right, I don't know, dude.
Can I just say imagine and we can move on?
No, we're not imagining anything.
Not imagining anything.
But, Kenny, imagine if Trump was correct.
We're going away from abstract here for a bit.
We're going away from abstract here for a bit.
Imagine if Trump was correct and they were having these calls and these talks
and the market is, I mean, the market reacted really well to that post on Truth Social.
But then Iran comes out and says, we have not spoken to the United States
and we don't know what the fuck Trump's talking about.
And that Trump's basically just scared
to actually do what he said.
Well, what we do know
is that the same wallet
that fucking long Bitcoin
on the last big crash
that was like a fresh wallet
opened a $20 million long on BTC
earlier this morning and is up tremendously so
i mean look have they closed the position or is it still open i believe it's still open
now look trump came out on saturday and said if iran doesn't open the shredder her moves
in the next 48 hours we're gonna rain down on you guys which
was the initial uh dip in the market on saturday bitcoin was sitting around 70
dipped all the way down to 68 slightly below that and then it comes out this morning and says no
we're actually in negotiations with them it's going real well i can't promise you that anything's
gonna happen but we are in talks with them and the market spikes.
I mean, look at equities. The fucking Dow Jones is up a thousand points as we speak.
You got Dow up eleven hundred, Nasdaq up five hundred twenty two points and S&P up one hundred forty over nine hundred billion dollars added to the equities market from the open this morning, which is pretty insane if you think about that, got the midterms coming up at the end of the year.
At some point, Trump is going to have to try and repump the economy if they want to keep control in the House and Senate.
So, I mean, these are all just little, you know, tactics that he uses, you know, and who knows?
They could be fucking long on Bitcoin right now.
That fresh wallet could be tied to the Trump family.
Who fucking knows but i mean you know this the market is very reactionary to what he says so that's kind of
the situation we're in right now whether or not i believe him i don't know but it's good for my bags
so let's go uh yeah i mean it was good for everybody's we're still down probably what uh three and a half to four percent
from the high where we just were we were at we were at like 75 before he yeah and we're sitting
at just over 71 right now which is a nice bounce considering we were turning at 68 yesterday
we're at 71 three and a half eth is back up to 21.78. Solana back over 91.75. So you're seeing a really nice bounce across the majors.
This is positive. This is kind of how you want to start out the week and hopefully we can gain some momentum.
Hopefully they can put an end to this war. That's ideally, you know, they come up with an agreement, you know, and it you know essentially across the market now gold gold
got absolutely pummeled last night did you see that cheese yeah it dropped it dropped a couple
a couple hundred dollars didn't bro it's it it dipped as low as 4 300 but off the high which was
back in january right we hit 55 i want to want to say, or 53, somewhere in that.
We're sitting at 44.86 right now.
So pretty big pullback over there.
Silver just cracked $70, but it got as low last night as 60.
I want to say 68 bucks was the low.
So, I mean, it was 120 about in January, a month and a half ago at the end of
January. So down, you know, almost 50% over the past month and a half, but more so than anything
else, as far as gold goes, this is just paper gold that's being sold. Like the situation is
similar to this. Like, so most of these like big companies and a lot of big entities that were trading gold, they were basically long on gold, but they were also long on equities.
So as equities got crushed over the past couple weeks, basically what ends up happening is these guys have to sell
their gold to cover losses on their equities and so that big drop is
typically it's a liquidity event where you know bigger companies are selling
gold to cover losses on their equity trades their margin on equity trades so
yeah that's the situation over there. I don't think people
are really selling gold. I think it's more people, you know, these big companies were
selling gold to cover their losses on equities and whatnot. So we'll see kind of where it settles
in at, but as of right now, you know, off the top, it's down 20%. So that's pretty volatile
for a big asset like that. So we'll see how it plays out yeah it's a kick in the dick i seen somebody say that actually gold uh bitcoin was what was the
post i can't even remember what it was bitcoin was actually rallying while gold was falling which was
bullish um yeah i'm not really sure gold kind of top and then the assumption is you know that money will
rotate into bitcoin as it's you know quote unquote the digital gold so yeah hopefully that's
but it's not a risk on market right now like people aren't you know unless you're a trump
insider yeah unless it's not happening unless you're opening a $20 million long on Bitcoin at like 3 a.m. this morning.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
Could you imagine this all comes out in the secret wallets?
The socials manager for the truth account for Donald Trump?
That'd be pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like that.
Speaking of prediction markets, did you see the news around, you know, a bipartisan bill coming out to ban sports betting on prediction markets?
Yeah.
But I thought we weren't betting.
I thought we were predicting.
You are, but I don't think that bill passes at all.
Well, you got to think here.
You got to think here.
In the past, I saw some statistics.
Like in the past month, I think in February around the Super Bowl time,
I think Calci and Polymarket did more than Vegas did the entire year.
So imagine Vegas as an industry just getting absolutely pummeled
by these prediction markets.
And now you have DraftKings offering and FanDuel.
Like you can
pretty much predict on sports anywhere now um it's killing the Vegas industry so this could be some
you know people just paying these politicians to fucking try and push a ban I mean I believe it was
between 70 and 85 percent of Calci's volume is attributed to sports. And on Polymarket side, 35 to 40% of their volume is attributed to sports.
So it's a big part of their platform.
And the reason people use them
is the sports betting side of things.
So I'm curious to see how that's going to play out.
Yeah, I don't think it's going to go into effect.
I don't think it's going to pass.
How are you going to be able to predict on one thing
and allow that and politics and war and entertainment and whatever,
but then you're just excluding sports?
It's either you get rid of them all or you fucking keep it all.
Like, sorry, we're taking money from Vegas.
Vegas has been on a decline for years, you know,
and that was attributed to FanDuel and DraftKings.
Yeah, those sports books, you know.
But we've seen different governors and senators.
And we've seen all these people try and rally, like, fight against draft.
We've seen New Jersey was one of the biggest ones.
And then they come out with their own prediction,
like their own sports betting site.
It's like, yeah, I don't think it's going to go anywhere.
Cal State and polymarket are too
big they'll fight it they have too much support trump's literally about to launch his own with
crypto.com you don't think he's gonna have sports on there yeah i do i don't think he's gonna have
mma on there like this isn't going anywhere yeah it's interesting i mean i assumed it would have
happened earlier the fact that we got to this point so quickly just over the past year
because, I mean, it was always illegal to gamble,
always illegal to sports bet.
I mean, I used to have bookies that used to come to my restaurant,
you know, on payday, and I'd either get paid out or I'd be paying them.
You know, that's the route we used to have to go to get a sports wager in
or bet on an offshore account in the Bahamas, something like that, you know that's that's the route we used to have to go to get a sports wager in or bet on an
offshore account in the bahamas something like yeah you know and use it can he just admit to a
crime on a live recorded space he did i did it's not the first time he's at fbi
not the first time he's done that um all right well what about uh nft since we're already running
through some market stuff
uh what about that yeah not a whole lot of volume on that nt side of things um but floors seem to
be maintaining kind of where they are as the price of ethereum starts to fluctuate but
pudgy penguins sitting just above four eath which is uh pretty insanely cheap to me to think about
you can pick up a pudgy for less than nine G's.
Hey, if they're that cheap in your book, bro,
I will send you the one that I want.
I'm just saying, considering the fact that people were paying 32 ETH for these
just over 14 months ago, back in January, you know,
they're paying over a hundred grand.
That's a little bit of a false equivalency though.
I mean, people were looking at getting a $100,000 airdrop at the time,
comparing the before and the after.
Yeah, but even after that mint happened,
they were still hovering around 15 to 20 each for a mint.
And they stayed above 10 each well after the airdrop happened on the Penguins.
So, yeah, I mean, it's just kind of it is what it is but 10 sales
over there 11 sales on board apes sitting at 5.22 just not a whole lot of volume hypers
the highest priced uh pfp outside of crypto punks right now 15.2 thousand dollars for a hyper even
they disappeared weren't we talking about this yesterday they didn't do a sale for a full day
and went from being number one in volume to like being not even on the on the chart right yeah yeah which just goes to show
how little volume is really happening on nfts unfortunately i mean it is still my favorite
asset class for sure but yeah just overall crypto punks 140 000 in volume uh board apes 120 000 pudgy penguins 86 000 and hypers at 45 000 so just not a whole
lot of volume happening right now but things seem to be holding their prices slightly green slightly
red i'll tell you what's not holding their price oh god let's hear it creeps yeah pretty depressing
point usually cheese don't even uh usually cheese don't even want to address it, but today, I guess,
I don't know. Cheese is choosing violence
today, I guess. Yeah, I mean, it's
.1690, $366.37
for the
future cousin of
Alien Friends.
Hey, hey, hey. It's the next Disney,
brother.
And, yeah,
yeah, not looking good.
Yeah, Joe and Dom really need to start showing up.
I disagree.
I know you got T-Maw's post pinned to the top.
I actually disagree with his post.
I don't think it has so much to do with the fact that they've waited as much as it has to do with just you know the the community sentiment around comms and lack of clarity yeah but community sentiment
only gets you so community in comms only gets you so far in my opinion well i mean bro like pudgy
i have another tweet pinned up there and pudgy just released another little card game that's like a family card game like they're just
they they drop products and a lot of brands are doing this yeah but also i saw i believe it was
i saw a post from katie showing the inner igloo i guess the in vc or on stage and discord dude
did you see the amount of penguins that were in there?
And that, correct me if I'm wrong, happens what?
Once a week?
Once every two weeks?
Every two weeks.
But Luca said that right now, they're not launching big, big shit. Like, the market's not there for it, which is understandable.
But you can still drop other things for the community to do.
I'm not saying drop things that cost money
because the only thing left on the creeps little,
what they call this a roadmap,
is a potential store to go buy clothes,
which I think is extractive as fuck.
It depends on how they do it.
You know, last time they had the entire storefront for end became creep centric i'm sure
they sold but he said they're not doing that this time i don't know i don't know what they're doing
i have no idea what they're doing this time well discord the other week he said that they were
going to a shopify style store like they're not doing the end collab yeah yeah yeah they're just launching
a fucking shop like i could do that right now i believe they said and clothing on their end was
taking too long so they're just gonna drop their own link and do a i think consumer um you know
where you can just purchase but my point is the point the reason i brought that up was just like
you know your community is the foundation of your project, right?
And if they are left out in the dark and don't understand what's going on, people will lose conviction.
And the floor price is a reflection of the comms and not really delivering anything tangible over the past couple of years.
That is a direct correlation to why the floor price is what it is.
And it's a very simple thing to do. that is a direct correlation to why the floor price is what it is. And like,
like it's a very simple thing to do.
Just keep your investors informed on what's going on.
If you don't do that,
this is the end result.
And unfortunately this community is fucking awesome.
I love all right. So I'm going to,
I'm so forced to have it,
had the best response.
The one part of his response,
I don't agree with,
and I'm going to show you why after I read his response.
Timing isn't the issue. Being wrong is fine and markets are unpredictable.
What kills community is overpromising, anchoring expectations, then disappearing after a miss.
Zero accountability, poor to no communication, lack of presence.
Zero accountability, poor to no communication, lack of presence.
The irony is creep still has huge potential in one of the strongest communities in NFTs.
When liquidity comes back, capital will look there.
The games, token, TGE all matter.
But the founders matter more.
Right now, they're shooting themselves in the foot and patience is basically gone.
It would be naive to think that you can just pick things up
when the market is back.
Ball is firmly in their court,
but they seem unwilling to pick it up for now.
And Timo replied, if you can't trust the founders,
nothing else matters.
So the part that I disagree with,
and I'm going to share this tab now,
is that the market last year was good enough to drop in.
March 13th, March 20th, March, where is this at?
March 13th.
Hold on, I'm too far back.
You had ETH on July 27th of last year at 3,900.
You had ETH at 46. I'm picking up what you're putting down. July 27th of last year at 3,900.
You had ETH at 46.
I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Let me finish my statement. All right.
You had ETH at 4,700.
ETH at 4,800.
You had ETH back at 47 and back at 44 times there
within a timeframe from August through October
where if you weren't out busy building other brands
and trying to build a casino
and trying to build and do all these other things,
and you were focused on the thing
that made you who you are in Web3,
we would be at a totally different situation right now.
Yeah.
Well, that's my opinion.
That's a fine opinion to have,
but you know,
I just got done saying this on cap space the other day in regards to
abstract and whatever people feel like Luca didn't deliver on.
It's very easy to Monday morning quarterback this,
right?
But if you,
like I said,
with cap,
if you zoom out,
every founder is guilty of this.
Every founder thought that last year was going to be very different than it ended up being.
And, you know, they all made promises at the beginning of the year that they ended up not fulfilling on because of the way that things ultimately were.
Things just didn't happen the way they thought they would.
And, yeah, I mean, you're looking at ETH and BTC charts.
Those are majors, but that's not the altcoin rally that
everybody thought we were going to have that all these guys wanted to launch into and i mean all
of them openc luca joe and dom yeah i understand that but that's why i'm saying you can't go with
the flow of what every other founder is doing and sitting here worried about stay in your lane
and rally the community that
is creeps is one of the biggest and strongest communities and i agree with kenny in that
statement but you had multiple opportunities within the year last year to send this fucking
thing yeah but everybody thought that there was going to be this big altcoin thing that was going
to happen yeah but just didn't happen that happen. And that goes back to the original post
from Tima where he said,
when you wait for perfect timing,
you end up with a floor like this.
I know, but I also, you know,
yeah, the floor,
I still think the primary community.
They ignore the fuck out of the community.
And that's where my biggest issue is
okay but a combination of that
and not being socially present
when they do come back
they go to spaces
I don't need them to come to this space
because this space is a lot of creeps holders
but when you come back around
you go to people that
nobody even fucking pays attention to
you're using marketing agencies
that really aren't relevant.
Like, you're so disconnected from what CT needs to push,
what you need to push a brand forward,
that you just go throw $100,000 to somebody and say,
here, have your guys post this.
Like, they got to dial the fuck back in.
You're either in Web3 100% or you're not.
Like, you know, if you're going to build quietly in the background, then cool.
Go fucking build products in the background and don't tweet.
As we, I still don't believe Dom is a founder.
I believe he's a founder.
I don't believe he's, he is a forward facing part of the team anymore.
Well, I mean, the evidence is clear that he's he is a forward-facing part of the team anymore well i mean the evidence is clear
that he's not forward-facing the question the speculative question is is is he even part of
the team anymore and the fact that this has been brought up ad nauseum and yet they can't seem to
produce a single sound bite or tweet or discord message uh i mean i i just can't believe that a
guy can't hop on you know i mean dude we live in an era of
you know everything's in your hand the you have access to your entire community with the device
that you carry around in your pocket i just can't believe that you can't address your you can't take
five minutes to address your community for months and months and months at a time that's why i don't
think i don't know what is going on with Dom. How do you think,
well,
how do you think Quirky's is above one ETH?
Poppy literally buys it and rallies the community.
And the community is doing this.
He's not paying,
he's not paying KOLs.
He's not paying marketing funds.
Well,
and by the way,
this is why I keep saying,
like my biggest gripe is on the community management side.
I completely understand why they didn't do their major activations at the opportune moment that makes that has been made clear, you know, looking backwards. It wasn't clear at the time.
I have the utmost sympathy with, you know, having misgauged what the markets were going to do last year.
It's the community side that I have a genuine gripe with personally yeah well
i mean i do as well but i've i've given up on that side of that side of it like i don't trust
the guys anymore and until they can prove that or give me a reason to trust them i don't i told
you i told joe the other day in discord when he finally showed up there for that you know
40 minutes or whatever it was that he was in there talking to everybody.
I said, dude, the second you guys want to start taking the community seriously again, DM me.
I'll do everything I can.
Host space.
Try to get you on with here.
You know, whatever.
I'll be 100% on board.
Just reach out.
Nobody's reached out.
Yeah.
Well, because they don't like T us like team i said or uh force the habit said
if you think you can just come back because people have money and they're injected money into risk on
assets and just pick it up yeah will people flow in because there's a tg of course but it's it's
only going to be priced in at the level you push it to. And I don't know.
I just don't believe it.
It's just that because six months ago, I'd have been in T-Moz comments defending Joe and Dom.
And now I'm like, I mean, dude, I literally went to bat for these guys over and over and over again with people being funny on the timeline.
Yeah.
But, you know, there's just you get to a point where it's like do i gotta
do i gotta apologize to web3 clown show like what are we doing here well i literally kenny i was
in if anybody wants to go downvote this i shilling in not being paid mind you was never paid by somo but this motherfucker negatively reviewed me yesterday
because i was promoting somo scam project like so now for me for me supporting these
motherfuckers for so many years now i'm being called a fucking scammer because I was promoting SOMO, which they totally fucking bailed on, you know?
And I've said this publicly.
Had I put the effort into this, into creeps,
that I put into creeps into Pudgy or another community,
I'd probably have a full-time job with another brand.
Most of the people that are, like are managing the community for Pudgy Penguin
were loud community members.
Yeah.
They've uplifted their community in a big way.
And unfortunately, I mean, SOMO, I wouldn't say it's a rug.
Obviously, Animoca bought SOMO.
So these guys, it's a big brand.
They're obviously going to do something, unfortunately.
They did raise $20 million.
It wasn't a scam a lot of people invested in the the pre c uh the pre uh tg round you know so like i that that's a that's a little outlandish to to accuse somebody like
trying to scam because well with zero evidence too i mean this guy's gonna end up nuking his
own ethos score because you can't just go around accusing people with zero evidence, too. I mean, this guy's going to end up nuking his own ethos score because you can't just go around accusing people
with zero evidence of being paid shills.
That's kind of crazy.
You're not going to do well on ethos like that.
We should probably start passing this around a bit.
We've got lots of people up here.
What's up, Dishani?
You were up here first.
I see you got your hand up.
What's up, brother?
GM, GM.
Yeah, it's really a little sad
when we see how the low price is evolving on Crips.
But yeah, every point you brought up, I have to agree with.
And I really hope that they will start to pay attention.
And as you said, that Tom doesn't show up.
It's really not cool at all.
Every founder has at least five minutes to come on,
at least say, okay, I'm not anymore part of the team
or I'm here working on something that's really annoying.
And I remember when I was offering to get to BLE 80K
and everyone laughed at me because back then it was cheap
and now I can become BLE with 6K. Everyone laughed at me because back then it was cheap.
And now I can become BLE with 6K.
And that's really sad.
If you can remember, it was on this show.
Everyone called me like, you're crazy, you're crazy.
And still, I'm not... We were calling you crazy for trying to do it.
No, you will be calling me for that.
Anyone will sell me for 80K, the BLE, to get there.
Now, I remember.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah, I remember.
The problem is, Dijani, if they came out and if it was official
that Dom was not part of the team,
the creeps floor would probably be cut in half from where it's at.
Why?
It can always be.
Because people believe.
Well, because people want both of them there they started this thing why did i don't remember even i mean not even luka
started budget penguins he bought it i mean this doesn't matter i understand that and that's why
pudgies are a value like they are but imagine if kevin and his brothers all split up kevin
announced that him and his brothers are no longer working together
and they're not part of the project.
The mindset there is that, oh, fuck.
Bosu's done.
I'm flooring my shit and getting the fuck out.
There's people that still hold that are OG holders,
many, many of them, that, like Dom and Joe, exactly the same.
I just find it
really suspicious that his name was removed
off of multiple companies
and the
excuse you get is that oh we're not a UK
company. I just don't buy it.
And then my question of well
why did he delete his LinkedIn then gets
responded to with oh I didn't ask him.
It's like well okay. Yeah. So I
don't I don't buy it. If Dom's still part of creepeps, fucking re-download X and come get on this space and come talk
to us.
I don't, yeah.
I mean, yeah.
You know, come tell us.
And look, by the way, I get that everybody's kind of hyper fixated on floor price.
I'm willing to put the floor price completely aside, right?
I don't really care about that.
If the team is actually present, managing their community and executing. I've got a bearish PFP on right now. I fucking love bearish.
The bearish floor is a third of the creeps floor. The floor price isn't really the biggest
fucking issue with me. Like the market has a big effect on all the floor prices of all of
these assets. What's my problem is the way that this team is moving.
That's my problem.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Let's go to this problem.
Yeah, I just wanted to congratulate you on your GigaChat role.
Then I wanted to say, yeah, I mean, if you look in hindsight, the amount of scammers that have wanting to get part of you Jesus or whatever. Yeah,
I mean, fuck them all. You've been here grinding every day for everything and if I just remember
on revolving games or so I get so angry because or this other lizard
looking PFP.
I mean, it's hilarious.
Yeah.
Thank you for the give it to.
A little of that time
into some more valuable
projects, it would be more
different. Yeah.
Bro, I mean, trust me, I
love creeps. Look at the fucking, look at my backdrop. My whole fucking room is nothing but creep me i i love creeps look at the fucking look at my backdrop
my whole fucking room is nothing but creeps i like creeps my daughter has creeps keychains
hanging on her backpack for years for she moves it to every backpack for every school year
so like this whole community has helped support me and get me to where I am and get any of us that are creators
in the space. So, you know, it's just like, show the fuck up, Jesus Christ.
I have different Creeps t-shirts. I have even my Creeps on my wall when they have been 10k per
Creeps or whatever. I don't put them down. But yeah, it does a little getting silly.
I'm thinking should I buy more creeps? I know maybe it's the solution, but I would love
after everything and how much money I lost. I mean, I also made a lot of money with crypto,
but how much money I lost, I need some confirmants and I would rather buy at 0.5 ETH again than not knowing what will happen in the next six
months.
Or at least if I see there is always some talk, okay, I will go.
I mean, I just need, I don't need anyone holding my hands, but to have water or every month
a call or whatever, have presented the plans, Even if it's not launching now,
you show some future, but yeah, don't know.
Well, yeah, I mean, to your point, Dijani,
these are speculative assets.
That's just the nature of Web3,
and I need a reason to speculate positively, right?
That's what you're looking for.
That's what you're describing is something to be a positive thing to speculate on, right?
And right now, I mean, it's March 23rd.
It's the beginning of the last week, full week of March.
There's theoretically two roadmap items on their roadmap.
I don't know if Joe even remembers that there's two things
that need to be delivered this month.
Probably not.
For the first time ever, I have all my Chrome.
On all my monitors, I have all my Chrome on all my monitors.
I have all my different tabs.
I have abstract.
I have Linden, Marketplaces, whatnot.
I had a creeps tab, portal tab, somo tab.
I removed all that shit.
I was like, I don't even go there anymore.
And it's sad.
It sucks.
You know, I have offered to rally fucking shit, do shit.
I'm tired of fucking trying.
So if they don't give a fuck enough to try, why should I?
And why should anybody with a creeps PFP at this point?
I don't know.
And somebody can tell me some way to actually give a fuck.
Then cool.
Like I, if I had the money, I would act, I would rebrand my entire account and be completely done with this POP listed and move on and just wait for whatever coins I have coming for the fucking hundreds of thousands of dollars I got rugged on from other assets.
So, um, but anyways, all right, let's go to Katie.
Then we'll go to, we'll figure out who was next.
I think it was Aurelius, then GW.
Katie, what's up?
Good morning.
How you doing?
Good.
What's up with the song choice?
What would be your go-to song for a Spaces opening?
I don't even know if it's the song choice or the sound quality.
I don't know.
It's the sound quality.
The problem is the hurts that get played through Spotify or Amazon or whatever you're listening to.
But time the hurts come through, it fucking bombs everything down.
I have told Cheese 85 fucking times now.
He would be better off just playing the music through speakers and letting his microphone pick it up.
He won't listen to me, dude.
He just wants to keep playing dog chick quality music.
Maybe he'll listen to me.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm kidding.
In my ears, my really nice headphones, it sounds great.
So I'm over here jamming out.
It does not sound great to all of us in the audience.
So just saying.
Come in at 11.05.
I'm just giving you a hard time.
No, I actually, you should have changed the title of your space
to Creeps Suck or something like that.
Because I have no idea about Creeps.
But I can sense your frustration.
I get it.
The reason I came up today, because I didn't get to talk to you the other day, is congratulations, both of you, on GigaChad.
I mean, God knows two of you freaking deserved it for so long.
Glaze them.
I was really happy.
Glaze them.
Well, the title says abstract gig of glaze.
I'm just following directions.
But no, I was really happy because I see all the work you guys are putting in.
So I just, I thought that was great.
So I wanted to come up and say that was great.
Thank you so much, Katie.
You're very welcome.
Appreciate it.
No, you're very welcome.
And as far as Luca goes, so every two weeks, he comes in and talks to everybody.
Anybody can go up on stage and ask questions.
It's all accountability.
And he even said this week, I know I haven't been on the timeline.
He wanted to rally the troops.
He's like, you guys need to get back to rallying the troops on the timeline.
He takes accountability for that.
So I think they have to be involved.
Listen, I'm a V friends holder.
Gary V is involved.
A lot of it has
to do with comics and shit i don't care about but he's still there and he still talks on the
timeline so it's all about you know transparency and accountability so well even if it's not that
if the founders are that busy they're so busy these guys just can't even they they literally
eat shit and sleep at their computer or whatever they're doing. They're traveling the world, doing deals.
Then hire someone.
It's called a CT lead for a reason.
Have that person that you can have that person that you can.
And I've offered to do this for years.
Have a weekly call.
You fucking work with the community manager.
You literally a 15 minute call.
And then that person goes and hosts an event to give an update to the
community,
get more feedback to give feedback from the founders.
And then the founder comes in once a month.
Like I've,
I've offered this for years and years.
I know.
And many,
many community members,
by the way,
have tried over and over again to bully them into hiring you for this.
And they never have. Now, look, I'll say this. They've still got bell and bell. members, by the way, have tried over and over again to bully them into hiring you for this,
and they never have. Now, look, I'll say this. They've still got Vel, and Vel, I see Vel down there. Shout out to Vel. I love this guy. He does a phenomenal job in the Discord, but he's paid to
manage the Discord. They still need somebody to be outward-facing on Twitter. You need somebody
to get people to come into that Discord to begin with before they're
going to even see Val and see the community inside the Discord, right? So, you know, I mean,
they're just, I don't know, man. They're just missing. I mean, they're not even missing. They're
just, they're not even swinging, you know? But my big motto, the big motto I always go with is
communication is key because if you don't communicate, people guess and they think and they speculate about things that probably aren't true.
But the more communication, the better.
So that's my leg to stand on.
Yeah, and look, I mean, V has done a great job for World of Women.
I mean, she's been very outward facing recently.
And like she's come onto spaces, talked with a lot of different people you know really
promoting her brand and and the world of women um and that you know that's accountability as a
founder which you know eases tensions if you're an investor in the project you know at least you're
seeing you know some communication from your founder which kind of gives you a little bit
of peace of mind regardless
of uh price action but still you want somebody to take accountability for what's going on and
unfortunately that's not been the case on our side uh for a while you know and it's it is unfortunate
because you know the again the the price is a direct reflection of the communication and
and accountability well and the other problem is is they they come
out of the woodwork when when the outcries get too big then they come show up yeah we're gonna call
we're gonna have better comms we're gonna do this we're gonna and then they just fade away after
about a month well even there i mean things got so loud and crazy that you know all of a sudden
it was like oh yeah guys too they'll be in it's like, oh, they'll be in tomorrow. And everybody thinks that we're going to actually hear their voices
or something. It turns out it's just Joe and he's just going to, you know, type to people
in discord for a little bit and then disappear again. It's like, you know, dude, just, I don't
know. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't know what else to do. I've tried, like I said, multiple people,
not just myself have tried helping in the community.
They don't want it.
they have a plan.
Good luck.
The pump,
the motherfucker.
Cause I still have a lot of SP.
We're not talking XP.
This is SP.
so fucking send it.
And,
do anything.
I don't even care at this point.
Hire fucking books and bark again.
I don't fucking care, dude. I'll fucking, I don't even care at this point. Hire fucking books and bark again.
I don't fucking care, dude.
I'll fucking, I don't even fucking care.
Just do anything.
No, we're not going that.
We're not going that.
Then that right there tells me that you do care about the floor price.
Because if you're trying to get books and bark in there.
Yeah.
Well, I do care about the floor price. Because like, honestly, at this point, I'm looking for looking for an exit like unless they can change my mind and my sentiment yeah i do get like i'm willing to give
a lot of grace to a team on floor price when i actually believe in the team i'm not sure that
there is a team can somebody give me a fucking exit pump yeah just. Just being honest here. Yeah. And your CEO is a Chad,
bro.
So don't even get me started.
Don't even get me started.
Don't even get me fucking started,
dude.
He wasn't even thinking about that guy,
but we're not even going to go there.
When your CEO of your company is a guy who had to delete his exit
because he literally fucking rugged an NFT community already.
Like, holy shit, dude.
Holy shit.
There we go.
Anyway.
Aurelius, GM.
Then we'll get to GW.
We'll go to Mex.
I don't know if Rug.
I think he's just here farming.
Then we'll go to Kev.
And by the way, real quick.
Scott is coming up.
I do know that what I just said is like super.
I'm like a super bear right now, but like my mind can be changed.
You just got to show up.
Just show up.
Anyway.
Barrel, just put, Barrel Forever put a gif that he made.
And I guess he's saying safe to say, and he's got a fork smacking my PFP
I'm guessing that's put a
fork in it
yeah shout out Dante
picking up a teases Zeke card
off the fucking floor
GG's there
I think Monica picked one up as well
so welcome to the squad we will
cook
alright who did I say Aure really, it's GM, sir. How we doing?
Good afternoon, lads. Holy shit. Wow. Um, first and foremost, congratulations on the giga chat.
Hey, thank you, sir. Thank you. Appreciate it.
You know what it means, but well done. Well done. Those, those men. Um, so what are we doing are we cto-ing cto-ing creeps are we gonna do a
hostile takeover should we fucking honestly dude if we could have cto-ed creeps like a year ago the
community was so strong it would be better off right now like the dude the creeps community
i gotta say i love these guys i mean the reason i'm still in web 3 to this day is because of the
fucking experiences that i had in the creeps community in the earliest days I mean we had so much fun I met so many cool people
I got to be a part of this international community of like fucking really cool people
I think I've got no complaints about the creeps community I never well I'll forever
uh be grateful to this entire community that came together around this art um yeah i agree but so fundamentally i
mean with the with the movement in terms of the founders then and just not communicating etc do
you think they've just you know slowly given up silently given up is it best that they they sell
that on to someone else if they wanted to buy it and then you know that community might come back together and rally him i don't think so we've heard whispers that they recently sold
somo and portal and we somebody had said somewhere that and they sold it to animoka
and that they wanted to buy creeps as well but they didn't want to sell creeps. So, you know, I just think that they overestimate just pure hype.
Cause I don't think there's enough people that are willing to get on a hype
train right now.
Right.
So like,
I think they think that like,
you know,
when the moment's right,
they'll come back and,
and everybody will just,
you know,
be there.
And it's like,
bro,
it's been a long time.
Like a lot of people have moved on.
A lot of people are frustrated, you know.
It's, I don't know.
I just, I think they overestimate, you know, short-term hype
and underestimate like long-term community management.
That's what I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's pretty wild. I think, I'd just say say we see t.o bosu um that's what we do
keb's laughing um i don't think keb's selling dude i don't think keb's selling brother yeah
we gotta fight him uh gwgm good morning um thanks for having me just wanted to come up and say i've been waiting for
this day um for the reason for the rebrand of cheeses um we got three bears you know that were
on stage just now and so obviously it has to be a bear i agree um i thought about that but you know
their their their founders really don't show up that much you know oh shut up this guy wants to bait scotty so bad right now i know like alpha dude yeah i mean
they're like i mean at least he's i don't it could be his clawed bot sitting in the audience
that's not scotty like i don't know if that's really him or not i picked up one though that's
all blue it's got a bow tie on he's naked with an ice cream cone on his head.
He'd be a perfect match for you.
So if you want, you can check out my wallet.
I got a bunch hibernating.
You let me know which bear that you're going to take over,
and we'll go from there.
Dude, I guarantee you, my account is bared out, dude.
And this is a perfect example, dude.
Shouts to Scotty and and toli for sure they're geniuses
galaxy brains building all kinds of cool shit but i'm not gonna lie the reason i came into
fucking bearish to begin with is because of carlo carlo is a fucking community lead who is just
fucking killing it he showed up engaged with us all the time got me to take a look at what was
going on over there.
Once I got there, I liked everything I saw, but I'd have never turned my eyes there if it wasn't for a guy like Carlo.
So, like, you know, proof of concept, right?
On this whole, like, you need to manage your community thing.
Anyway.
Hmm. Yeah. Looking at the creeps,s chats fucking melting right now um i left all of them i don't
and it's not because i don't like all those guys it's because i kept getting super frustrated and
i didn't want to fucking start typing i didn't want to speak on any of this shit negatively
to be honest and so i just like i like, there was a couple of days,
I remember distinctly there was a day
where I was typing at Joe
and then like an angry message
and then deleting it.
And I was like, dude,
I don't want to be one of these guys in the chat
just being fucking negative and shit.
And then, you know, in the top sense,
I've gotten even more mad, but whatever.
I agree.
Jesus, while I'm on stage,
can we just talk to Scotty really quick
and tell him to go ahead and open it up for us
non-creators so we can get into that
damn squad hub already? I mean, shit!
Yeah, well,
you have to send
a message to his Claude bot.
You can do that in Telegram.
Just at Scotty Claude
and you'll get it.
That's what you do.
Yeah, bro, I wish bears had like a
cheesy
bear. I need a cheesy bear.
Like I need something with something
in there.
We have honorees, dude. We can make that happen.
Well, yeah, I know, but
like I said,
you need these founders to
show up a little bit.
Hey, DQ, real quick.
I don't know if you read the title,
but we're supposed to glaze the Giga Chad.
So I need you to say something nice
about Kyle and Cheese real quick.
Well, it says our creep's dead.
It doesn't even say that anymore.
Yeah, he updated the fucking style space
to be pure rage bait. God damn.
Yeah, Katie DMed me
and said, hey bitch, you remember when I said I'm looking
for an exit here? Jeez, you're not
helping.
I mean, it's not my fault. Blame
Katie. You're gonna fucking go
put a negative review? No, don't negatively
review Katie. Do not give me a
negative review, but please give me a
positive review. I didn't realize that you were on Ethos, and I need some positive reviews.
So if anybody's in the audience that want to throw me one, I will review you back.
Yeah.
There are some fucking really nice bears listed right now, by the way.
Did you see my latest bear that I picked up?
I did.
You got a pretty cool one.
It's the number three in the collection. Did you notice
that? What?
No, I didn't even notice that. You mean token number
three? Token number three. That's pretty
cool.
Scotty, can you concur that that
is a special pickup?
Scotty doesn't know.
By the way, we saw you
in cap space and then you exited quickly
Yeah as soon as you start talking about Zeke
He fucking just
Immediately goes into other listeners
I know what you're up to Scotty
I know you've been awake all morning
Listening lurking lurkily
I know your style
Yeah I wouldn't bring up
Lurky there's some drama there
With Scotty and them and Lurkey.
Ooh.
Yeah.
It's not very bullish for Lurkey.
All right.
Who else came up?
Max, GM.
Hold on.
We got Bozu Kev up here was up here first.
Let's go to Kev real quick.
GM Kev.
Sorry, Max. I was trying to do this in a roundabout way
because the last time Kev was here, he had to leave.
The person that had a question is who I was going to go to
after I went to Kev.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
I got to set up here.
Max, everybody's doing fine.
What do you got to say?
What do they call to say? Yeah, see? That audio
sounds like shit.
What is this? This is a AI Joe
and Dom song, but it's hard to hear
the lyrics. Where the fuck are Dom and, but it's hard to hear the lyrics.
Where the fuck are Dom and Joe?
That's all I want to know.
You know what I mean?
Good morning, everybody.
How's everybody doing?
Buenos dias.
Cheezus.
Kenny.
He didn't hear the first part.
We're chilling, man.
We're chilling.
This was supposed to be a fun space where everybody sucked my giant green cock, but instead we're
fudding creeps, apparently.
Sorry, I don't know if I'm supposed to say that kind of stuff as a giga chat oh i was just i was
just going along with the vibes you know what i mean if we're if we're going back to plan a i'm
with that kyle so you know what i mean um yeah so uh we're still here huh we're still in the
trenches we're still trying to make some money uh we're still uh trying to uh get some generational
wealth i see i'm not even really trying to make money right. We're still trying to get some generational wealth, I see.
I'm not even really trying to make money right now.
I'm just trying to, like, network and, like, fucking be one of the motherfuckers that doesn't die in the bear market.
That's basically my bear. Oh, my God.
Look at Carlo down there.
I haven't seen Carlo in a while.
Carlo, I was just blazing you so hard a minute ago, dude.
You missed it.
I said the Bears team doesn't show up, and look at these guys.
You said his name three times, bro.
I know.
If Tully comes in, then, oh, my God, it's going to be amazing.
Well, hey, give me two minutes.
I'm going to dip off.
You know what I mean?
I just had some time.
I just want to catch up.
You wasted 10 seconds.
How's life?
Jesus, you're good.
Kids, family, everybody's good.
I mean, I hear you complaining that you want to change your lizard PFP.
Kenny, I see you're good. I see that you still
got the Komasayama. Kyle,
you know what I mean? You're alive. You're a Latin
woman that hasn't killed you yet, so I just wanted to
catch up. You know what I mean? I promise it's crossed
her mind, but yeah, I'm still
breathing. That's cool. Good to hear.
All right, boys. Do your thing.
All right, Mex. Hope all's
well, sir. All right, let's get to
Juice, because Juice was questioning some deliverables from Bosukev.
And Juice, are you with us, sir?
Yeah, I'm driving.
Before we get there, how about fuck you
for shitting on lizards after fucking selling them all?
I didn't sell them all.
I lost them all because the team didn't sell them all i lost them all
while owning 50. huh how about you shit on them while actually owning something well you know what
yeah i would have said uh pivot to bearish or pivot to final bosa you know yeah that's funny
yeah um all right so get to it come on don't blame
shitty canadian cell phones either what do you what do you want me to get to i don't know you
had questions about the collector profile or something and you asked yeah kev about that so
like let's get it over like what's the question well the last space kev left uh but because he
had another space.
He said he heard everything.
So do you want me to repeat everything?
Well, you were asking about a collector profile last year.
I wanted to know where it's at today.
Kev?
GM. GM.
It sounds like he wanted to get in a boxing ring last time but
the collector profile because i think the problem was like last year they asked about this uh and
when it was coming it said it was being built um and then now uh was asked about it again this year
so they were just wondering and and I think Kyle as well,
uh, you know, what's, well, the one thing I was going to comment on because I, and I, and I kind
of missed my opportunity on this too, was I, I heard you say something about a mobile app for
the collector's profile, which I think is a great idea, but I, I was just going to try to suggest
that, you know, I would try to get something out there so that the community has something to engage with and then worry about building the app.
And I didn't know if that was your intention or not, or if your intention was to wait until...
I don't know anything about coding or building, but it sounds to me from smarter people than me that building apps and stuff, getting apps into the app store, that sort of thing can take quite a while.
So that was what my comment on that was going to be.
Yeah, sure.
No, like the app is definitely more of a further future plan.
It was more like commenting on like the blockchain
and how we're integrating with that.
They were kind of trying to think ahead.
That's why I mentioned it.
But yeah, I guess like Collector Profile, it's full in the works.
Full Team is focused on it.
It's coming as soon as possible,
but it obviously hasn't been our only focus.
Yeah, we've done many other things in the last nine months
since we've done the review.
But if you want to have a direct answer
on the collector profiles on the way,
yeah, team is working on it.
It's going to come together.
Hey, how big is your guys' team?
Chi said it's just you and your brother,
but is there, you have a full team working with you?
I think we're seven people counting.
But yeah, so it's my brothers and a couple others.
But we're a small team.
We're staying lean on purpose.
I think, you know, for our current situations and the goals that we have
right now, and, um, yeah, like most of the time, most of our time of my
brothers, for example, go into story writing and script writing for, for like
a show, right?
For the manga.
Um, and so like a lot of time is being spent on that and the rest of the
team is uh focused with me on like socials and expanding on instagram um yeah instagram is
popping off really nicely one of your brothers was traveling right for research for the for the
animations and for the storyline and all that right uh well not specifically for that but in general like the the thing i don't know where i shared
that uh but but in general like their full focus is on writing and so um like i think traveling
like you know being free while you're writing is just an important part and uh one of the things
um yeah that i that i sat like a months back was that we're splitting up our team
so that my brothers can fully focus on the story writing.
Because if you want to create a good story, there's just so much time that goes into it.
You kind of need to be fully focused and your whole brain is just busy with that all day.
Of course, if you want to create something average or you want to put something out real fast,
we could put out a manga within a month or two.
We could do that, but there's a very big chance it won't be great,
but it would be an average thing that ends up not being consumed or it doesn't really hit in the world we rather say let's let's
focus on like putting proper time into it and hopefully hopefully my brother's expressions
will be loved right like you never know like it's ultimately uh a labor of love and passion and
creation that goes into something um for a very long period of time that essentially you're launching
like oh shit hope people love it yeah i mean
spending spending all the time that feels necessary to make that feel like it's complete
uh i completely understand that is there um any other shorter term deliverables that you guys
are looking at outside of the collector's profile i think collector's profiles are main focus right
now i really want to get that out i would say say also like, and we'll work on sharing a bit more of the messaging,
I think beyond like a simple collector profile, right?
That's like you spin up some badges with.
It's more like the way that we're thinking about it is way more of,
we want to co-create with our community, right?
Every, like every week till now, now we're holding them every two weeks, we do builder calls
within our community. And there's about five to 10 people that show up there every time.
Some people are working on comic books, there are some role-playing games, there's some apps,
there's stories. And we have a lot of people that co-create with us. And so the app
is more like a character hub than, you know,
it's definitely a collector profile where, you know,
we have some of the mechanics that we're used to,
but we definitely wanted to do something different
that fits also to our longer-term goals where, yeah,
we create a lot of canon in our universe, right?
We have actual a world with rules.
And when somebody now creates a character
and he gives it a name he gives it a
bio like how can we help them to get as close as possible to canon as possible so that if later
we need a character in our story that we can actually source from our community and include
them and kind of co-create that thing right um and so the collector profile is more way more than
And so the collective profile is way more than just the collective profile.
It's actually a real co-creating dashboard that will start small,
but will grow out over time.
Are you familiar at all with Burden and what he's doing with Sword AI and all that?
I wonder if that would be applicable maybe to people.
Because, I mean, you guys obviously have awesome anime art.
It seems like there's a lot
that people in your community could do with like uh i mean i don't know exactly what you guys's ip
agreements or anything are but i i could see people making kind of their own interesting side
stories with their own individual characters with something like that but i don't know if you're
familiar with him and what he's doing no i've not i will check it out then yeah and definitely like
our community is like very active with it, actually.
There's a lot of people co-creating, writing stories and creating art around it.
Yeah, it's really awesome to see.
One thing that I've already spoken about is an app that we've developed that's more internal,
but we're actually going to give it to the community out as well.
We've actually created an MCP as well for Cloud
that our community gets access to soon.
That is integrated.
We call it StoryOS.
We don't have a real name for it yet,
but it's an app that basically integrates
with our whole canon and lore.
It helps my brothers to write and organize,
basically, like the world Bible, the world rules,
like all of these things, but also our community can then tap into it.
Because, yeah, like even our collection from day one was built up in tiers, right?
So if you have the Kaiju-kan who are like the officers,
there's rankings within them.
You have like the generals and you have all the way to like almost the street,
you know, the street officers, for lack of better terms.
And those all have
stories and they're actually integrated in a real universe so when the manga comes out
like those same things apply but if i now have a community member who's creating i want him to tap
in and so this app it's going to be available for community um yeah it's already done uh we're just
like finalizing the community parts and yeah there's really cool things happening on this run.
Cool.
I just pinned it to the top.
It's sword.ai, I think.
But anyway, it's just like a host of AI tools and stuff
that are kind of specifically aimed at creating anime-type IP.
It kind of, I don't know. know just seems like it would be something interesting for your community to get into and start doing cool stuff with uh with their characters
because the art is you know undeniable i appreciate that thanks you sounded a lot more angry last time
when i left yeah i'm more'm more chill today. You should have
caught me on that space.
All right.
Who else came up?
Lizzie, GM. How are we?
Hello, GM,
GM, everyone. So I just
want
for Scotty to pull up because we have a lot of questions like i saw that
scotty has been a had a great time for over a day watching the game theories on his timeline so i
think it's about time we hear from him so that i can switch from speculating to strategizing would
that be possible?
Yeah, I mean, hey, I would love for Scotty to come up.
Don't know what he's doing.
I'm expecting he's probably not doing much.
But, I mean, maybe he'll come up.
Maybe he won't.
You know, active founders do participate in spaces.
Shout out, Kev.
That's right. And, you know, so, so yeah not really sure what scotty's uh
thinking down there i know he did post kenny some massive upsets this weekend
um the a lot of shake up on the bearish abstract mania board and brackets were destroyed hey what's
a good percentage on the brackets?
Because I don't know anything about any of this shit,
but I got a couple brackets that are like 75%.
Is that good?
Well, what is your points?
Like, what are your points total right now?
Let's see.
The two highest ones are 48 points.
Okay.
You're right there with me. So, like, there's like 100 other people tied it with 48 points. Okay. You're right there with me. So there's
like 100 other people tied it with
48 points. Yeah, 48's
yeah, pretty good.
I think my highest one is
51 and then 49 are my
two highest. Yeah, I just went
through and picked the different,
I tried to do every bracket
with one of the different AI
strategies as it were.
And it seems like a couple of them are going really well.
I've got a third one at 47 points and another one at 45.
But yeah, I've got two of them at 48.
Yeah, I have several of mine are at 48.
I'm not sure how that's going to look at the end of the day,
because I mean, once these teams get upset, I mean, it, you know,
it just changes it all so fast.
I want to know if the bracket with the 4,400 or 400,000 for, um,
if the, if that's the AI wallet,
that's at 56 points. Scotty, can you
confirm?
Sweet. Good talk.
Well, I mean, getting on stage
is half the battle. So we give him a
shout out. He shows up.
He's just not showing out yet. So just give him
a minute to get warmed up.
He said no.
Wait, how did I get up here? Wait, how did I get up here?
What's up?
Wait.
I did not click the button.
I brought you up here.
Wait, what?
Yes.
Yeah, I can trust the power of cheese is mighty.
I hacked your quad bot
and told it to accept the invite that I sent you.
Who's the fucking galaxy brain now, Scotty?
No, actually, how did that happen?
Well, you know, as I told Kyle this morning, with great power comes great responsibility.
Yeah, and as I reminded Jesus this morning, Uncle Ben got shot almost immediately after that.
So I'd be careful there, buddy.
I pinged Kevin.
I told him that Pons put a muzzle on me to relay the message but now
that i'm up here i guess i can just say that yeah well you know what tell ponds to put his cigar down
and get his his ass up here um what scotty did post top bracket across all brackets and abs mania
was made by an agent if the agent or owner bet 1k on every money line so far from its picks it would be up 11 337 human dollars uh i think i
missed an opportunity ha that was on the 22nd so uh yesterday is that is that bracket still doing
well i think it's still in the top but it's not the number one i think there's a human a human
bracket that's number one now. Oh, wow. Okay.
All right.
Well, there you go.
I mean, there are, I guess, you guys have the prize pool set, but if there is, like, I'm right there with Kyle.
One of my brackets is sitting at 48 points.
You guys can obviously see which, I mean,
are there a lot of duplicate
brackets out there? Are you able to see
those numbers?
I could. I haven't run those numbers
though. Oh, okay.
Did the guy that negatively reviewed
you delete his review? Because I just
went to Ethos and filtered by negative reviews
nothing's coming up. I don't know.
I'll have to go check.
Because when you go to the uh the
bearish one the zeep mania one uh that one has it pays the top 79 participants but if there's 50
people that tie for 50th place like what happens there i don't think there'll be that many ties but it's by tiebreaker so whoever gets close to the actual uh final score okay yeah all right that way okay all right cool yeah a lot of uh a lot of
good stuff there um i've been watching it but i haven't been watching the games i know i know
kenny has but we had some upsets yesterday though. It kind of shook things up. Can I interject
here for one second? Because now I'm looking at the
bearish brackets.
My number one is in 15th
place. Look at that.
What's the points on it?
Wait a minute.
Let me go back.
Nice.
How did you make your bracket?
Most of mine were AI ai there was a couple that i picked because i love yukon and i knew that the
ai wasn't going to pick yukon so yeah mostly ai well that's some bullshit because my ai was sleeping
is you know i'm down at the bottom this is not cool scotty and i tried getting kenny to help me but
he wouldn't help whatever bro i offered my help i offered my help to all you guys i can say i am
marked safe from ai on my picks 51 off of this giga brain that i've got you got a you have a 51
and it's just your your big? I mean, I'm five off
the lead. That's not bad, right?
No, that's solid. Bro, this dude's
copying picks off ESPN.
Who did you pick to win?
U of H, bro. Come on.
Houston. Cougars.
Taking it all down.
That's unique, too.
Especially with Florida, the number one seed
in our bracket, losing. We have a cakewalk to the Final Four.
That's all I got to say.
Then we're going to take out Duke, and then we're going to be Arizona.
You know how many Florida fans said we have a cakewalk to the Final Four?
Whatever, bro.
I'm just saying.
Wait, which team does Kenny think is going to win?
U of H, Houston.
Yo, Houston?
Man, that team's going to lose, bro.
That was weak.
I don't even think Juice.
That was weak.
He said those teams were that team?
Canadian commentary does not matter on American sports.
All right, bro?
Juice is just trying to rage bait everybody, dude.
He's rage baiting Kenny by pretending to give a fuck about football.
He's rage baiting Kev by pretending to not be a hater.
Like, what the fuck, dude?
Jeez.
Sometimes you just need dopamine, you know?
I get it, dude.
Bear market activities, dude.
Turn the rage bait up to 11, dude.
Dude, the amount of dopamine dopamine the quality of dopamine that
you get from just pissing people off is way better than any of these instagram reels or
tiktoks that people watch um yeah so i do have a serious question for scotty scotty uh is carlo
actively like flying around in a helicopter
scouting locations
hanging off the side of it with his
fucking hat
looking like Indiana Jones
that looks like a good location
I could see him doing that
he's been busy with his
movie life, his directorship
Jesus, can you do your
Carlo impersonation again? What the fuck was that?
I know, just because his name's Carlo doesn't mean he has
a Spanish accent, bro.
No, Carlo
was like...
Carlo has a deep...
It's almost...
It's like a Mexican-esque...
I don't know.
He has a radio voice.
He does. He does. He has a very nice
soothing voice.
But yeah, I don't
know. I'm picturing Carlo
out there with a pair of binoculars
hanging off the side of a helicopter
right now.
But it's been so long since we heard
his voice. Kind of forget
what it's about. I actually haven't heard his voice
in a while too. I'll probably need to hit him up and see if i can can sync with him a little bit yeah i was
trying to get some thinking i was like well maybe i hit up carlo and get some zed alpha but this guy
didn't even know cards launched so it's like yeah carlo's on his uh his dream tour so yeah i want to
support him there though though. For sure.
Yeah.
No, it's good.
Shout out, Carlo.
Great guy.
But anyways, Kev, let's get to the meat and potatoes, bro.
I mean, Scott.
Scotty.
Not Kev.
I was looking at Kev.
Scotty.
The article from Ponce just did nothing but confuse everyone.
That's just the bottom line.
He pontificated way too much.
Do you know what that means?
Yes.
Some call it word salad.
Yeah.
I mean, the guy gave us his theory on marketing and basically how shitty KOLs are.
I mean, it wasn't that hard to get to the, look,
I literally scanned over the whole thing went, all right,
these first two giant paragraphs is just opinion pieces on previous info five
meta. I don't need to read all that. The whole end was just kind of whatever,
but the middle, the middle was the good stuff. That's where the alpha was.
That's where all the squad a squad
b type shit was um but there's so like that's my question is like can i if i go into a tournament
with my legendary von doom can i stack my other my rare and my commons on top of that
because I'm supporting the one creator?
And is there like a multiplier
because you are holding multiples of the card of the creator?
Like in previous Z tournaments,
if you had one bear, you got X amount of bonus.
If you had multiple bears, you got a bigger bonus there.
You know what I'm saying?
So like.
That was just on the Blanco tournament, but I get what you mean.
Well, I'm just.
It was a lot of things.
Even the GVC.
If you had multiple GVCs, you got a bigger bonus.
So the question, Scotty, is can I use more than one card of the same creator on a tournament?
You should be able to stack in theory yeah interesting i would have guessed no
it's interesting so now another i mean that that mechanic isn't fully fleshed out but
if you but there should be an incentive if you have multiple i think
yeah because you're you're investing like if somebody believes in me or believes in an idiot
or lizzie or teach like yeah i gave you i gave
you a nickname there yeah there's um yeah that's fine i guess i can say that i mean there's a there
was a concept that we talked about internally uh around i guess you'd call it scholarships
um because obviously there's a cap to the amount of cards that exist, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you want to cap the amount of participants, if you understand what I mean by that.
So there was a concept we were flirting with where if you had multiple cards, you could, in theory, let's say, delegate them to people that did not have cards, and there would be something there.
So that's not fully fleshed out, be something there so uh that yeah that's that's
not fully fleshed out but that was something we've talked about yeah because i mean if if somebody
really believes in that one creator whether whether they hold a lot of cards to resell when
the creator's rewards are like so good and people are like oh shit i wish i would have got a whale
i'm gonna sell you know then that person's holding a bunch to sell later on for profit.
That's fine.
But if someone wants to get a max multiplier within a squad
by holding a bunch of the creator's cards,
now maybe cap it.
Like, yeah, you can't.
There's only 80 common cheeses.
And somebody, you know,
so that way it's not geared towards whales profiting.
If somebody has, you know, maybe three commons can be stacked, not 20 because this guy has more money than me and he's getting more rewards.
Obviously, some people don't have legendaries, so it'll change the dynamics.
That was one of my biggest questions
my other question was do you think if if say the kpi is referrals and i seen the tweets about the
alliance stuff and i mentioned this in captain space this morning like obviously the goal there
is to get as many referrals under the main squad leader as possible
so you can climb the ranks in the tournament.
Do you think people are going to put their own greed aside
by not sharing their referral?
If Lizzie, for say, had a legendary card of mine,
it's like, oh, I'm going into this tournament together. You're asking Scottie to speculate
on people's
individual bias
of supporting their favorite
creator versus themselves. I'm asking
his opinion. Do you think people are
really going to put their own personal
agenda aside for the
betterment of the squad?
I don't think they will.
I think we will see what happens.
I think we'll see how the game plays out.
Yeah.
I have two questions.
There's a psychology there.
There is.
I have two very direct, very simple questions.
If I could get yes or no's on these, this would be great.
The first question is, is the a squad and the b squad reward pools
separate or are they drawing from the same reward pool i i'm wondering this because i feel like if
a lot of people backdoor in on b squad type shit it's gonna potentially delete the rewards pool a
lot so i'm wondering if the a squad thing is a separate rewards pool if it's all siloed oh you mean if you have if you have squad
ception yeah yeah so if i'm squad a but you know if i hold the guy's card and so i'm in on the squad
a will everybody coming in in a b squad be able to dilute the rewards pool that i'm potentially
a part of i wouldn't say dilute is the right word. I mean, it will spread it.
But at the same time, the way that we're
working with these brands and clients
is that the pools go up with more participation.
So it's not just like, hey, here's
50,000 or 100,000 available.
It's like, yeah, maybe that's the baseline.
But if we actually overproduce, then you might get more, right?
So it's not that it's going to dilute it.
It's going to increase it
because the amount of outcomes are going up.
Okay.
And my second question is
kind of in a similar fashion
because my concern is that, like,
if I'm a, you know,
if you've got a whale legendary card,
every motherfucker is going to try to play that card,
you know, and then everybody's going to try
to B-squad their way in too.
Will you be able to gatekeep your squad?
Like on the squad hubs,
obviously there's an option to manually
let people into your squad hub
or automatically do it for everybody that's a card holder.
Is that just to gatekeep the chat
or is that to actually gatekeep the entire
access to even be in the squad?
I don't think there's a,
I mean,
it'd be kind of weird if someone who was trying to get revenge in your squad
by helping you make money.
Right.
I mean,
like the whole purpose of being in the squad is that you're participating in
attributing what you do on chain with the squad leader so that everyone makes out
i i get i get that but if i'm again if i'm again this is the biggest example if i'm whale and i've
already identified like my best clipper my best like you know wingman who also has motion on the
timeline if i've identified the people that i want in my squad do i really want every single other person all getting a piece of that rewards
pool too i think if they hold your card they get a piece of the reward if they put it in that
tournament oh you mean okay so yeah i mean there's there's both squad and individual contributor
um rewards so it's not just now the biggest rewards will be within a squad,
but also the biggest contributors as an individual within a squad might get
outsized returns too, depending on what it is, like what the KPIs are.
That's not guaranteed, but that's how I could see it working.
And some, you know, there's a lot of control still that the brands and clients have over.
Well, obviously they have control over what metrics they want to get, but they also have a little bit of control over the structure of rewards too.
We're going to make it as appealing as possible.
I mean, there's no world where I want people to do all these things and make a dollar.
That's not the game that we want to play.
not the that's not the game that we want to play yeah getting you know five figure six figure deals
you know this should it should be appealing for everyone involved um otherwise it doesn't work
well it's not appealing yeah and the biggest thing is like so right now i think i'm gonna go
to my squad hub i think i have 74 or 75 squad members yeah 75 squad members. Yeah. 75 squad members. And it's like, uh, shout out Dante picking up the
last one. Um, but it's how many out of that 75 are actually holding and participating. How many
of them are holding just because they know who I am and they're going to sell. So like, I want to
empower everyone in my squad. I want to boost. I want to do everything i can uh to help everyone
in my squad because the more we do the better we do the more rewards everyone's gonna get so like
i wouldn't want to limit my squad i would want people seeing my squad chat just so they could
be like shit i want to get in that squad like well i mean unless you've got somebody wiling out
in your squad hub saying no no words and being abrasive and shit you know i mean unless you've got somebody wiling out in your squad hub saying no
no words and being abrasive and shit you know i mean it is what it is you can't control you know
idiots um well you can keep your squad up right yeah but i don't want to gatekeep no nobody holding
my card you are welcome on this stage oh boy do i have an alt account coming into your squad hub
buddy yeah we're gonna fucking stress test this theory i got my alt account coming into your squad hub, buddy. We're going to fucking stress test this theory.
I got my main account coming in, and I own a bunch of your cards.
The good thing is they're not open yet.
I have three of your cards.
Yeah, well, Dijonnie, you have yet to say a word in my squad chat,
so I appreciate it, Dijonnie.
He's talked in my squad hub a couple times.
I appreciate it.
Yeah, I'm going to kick both of you out.
I'm actually going to change.
You know how I brought Scotty up on stage?
I'm about to change the metadata on your cards.
Yeah, your PFP is going to be upside down, which means it's no good.
Scotty, the last question I have, and then I'll let Dijani.
Dijani, I'm sorry, guys.
When I said other creators, I didn't mention Dijani,
and he threw a sad emoji up.
As soon as I said that.
See, look at him now.
He's laughing.
So make sure you guys
go check out Dijani as well.
I have a couple Dijani cards.
So do I.
I have a rare and a couple comments.
For people that are holding
large amounts of cards
or even just holding,
will I passively earn even though they're not in a tournament?
That's my confusion.
It's like if there's only five tournaments and I'm holding 200 cards.
Yeah, I think, no, you won't passively earn, so I can simply state that.
But again, the whole point of the cards is this whole social fi dynamic where we're creating, let's call them new creator capital markets.
So the old model was Frentech and or what was the other one?
Kaido.
No, no, no, no.
On the social fi side, it was like, oh, there was the AVAX thing.
Oh, Fantasy Top, no, no. On the social fi side, it was like, oh, there was the AVAX thing. Oh, fantasy top, all that stuff.
Yeah, fantasy top was, I mean, I guess that was kind of, I guess that was kind of social fi, but it was also a card game. But I guess what I'm saying is there is speculative value on the cards or the, these access tokens either way. So if you have a large collection, what you're really betting on is the creator increasing their influence and also having you know the capability
to earn rewards i mean so if you have a whale card i mean it's it's pretty obvious that if you
have a whale card and he participates in a tournament now i don't think it's a guarantee
he participates in all of them because he doesn't really dilute his brand that way but let's say
there's a really um strong client so i think one of the campaigns he participated in was like
fight that ID when we had
Info5e1.
I don't know what place he ended up in.
Actually, I don't even know if he stayed in the top 10.
I think he was 8 or something like that.
Was he in the top 10? Okay, yeah.
He only posted a couple times, and so he had
limited participation. But if you have
his card and he does well and his squad
that he...
It doesn't necessarily have to be just him posting so if it's him and his squads posting and again it's not just posting I'm just using posting because it's easiest to talk about but there's a whole lot of other things here.
But if you hold his card and you're part of his squad and it does well, then you would have got a good share of the rewards.
Now, again, it might not be the top 150 squads getting rewarded.
That doesn't really make sense anymore.
So you need to narrow your focus down to, okay, maybe it's the top five or top 10, and maybe they're getting X percent of whatever the total allocation is. So let's say fight ID said, hey, we're doing 1% of our token.
And then the top squad maybe gets 50% of that.
I'm just giving you an example hypothetical of the structure breakdown.
And then everyone within the squad would get a piece of that.
And so you really want your squad to do well, but it's not limited to the baseline prize pool.
Again, if your squad overperforms or all of the squads are over-performing,
then the prize pools will continue to go up.
Almost like if you think of it like a bonding curve in a typical meme coin
world, like if a meme coin only bonds when it hits some market cap,
a hundred K market cap, you can kind of think of it like that.
So it's like
this ongoing competition to increase the rewards so there's mutual alignment between the brands
prize pools and the participants does that make sense but there's always a baseline
uh yeah yeah no yeah oh yeah yeah so i get that. So it kind of goes to a lot of the research everyone's seeing on the timeline where it's like, okay, if you can't afford a whale, then go down to the next level of creator.
Then if you can't find.
But the thing is, is a lot, a lot of these KPIs, you're not going to find much data on.
Like you could see someone on wall chain.
I think Monica was talking about Chill Pill and the amount of referrals
he had on one of the other things.
He had like 1,000 referrals, whatever.
Okay, so that's somebody good if one of the main KPIs is referrals.
But just because a whale or myself or an Eli or whomever has, you know,
X amount of impressions on a tweet,
it doesn't mean they're
getting a lot of fucking interaction. It doesn't mean they're getting a lot of referrals to the
next, because not only do they got to click on your post, then they got to click on the link
that you are referring them to. Then if another KPI is volume traded or things like that, I mean,
yeah, I guess part of the magic is um when this stuff is
all on chain and you have a card like you hold a card of a creator you actually don't need links
ever so this is the i guess we've never really said this explicitly but the system with the nfts
or at least the novel part that we've built out on the tech side is that it's linkless affiliate marketing linkless affiliate marketing um because you have like this you know creator to owner relationship
that is on chain and then if there's on chain actions linked to any of the wallets that are
linked to the owner of the card we can attribute it right back to the original creator does that
make sense it's like a tree there yeah um, yeah, we've created like this linkless
affiliate model. I don't like to use
the term affiliate because it's like maybe there's some bad
connotations there, but that is kind
of what is happening. Well, it's just like, hey,
go sign up for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Use code Jesus. Yeah, exactly.
You don't need to do that. That's all it is.
Yeah, but you don't need to do that, right?
So you don't need to say type in code Jesus at checkout.
If they do a transaction with the wallet, with the wallet that owns a card or an associate wallet to that wallet, right?
Because we have an account with multiple wallets linked to it.
Then we can just automatically attribute it back to you.
So there is no use cheeses at checkout.
It's did you use that wallet or an account in the email linked to that?
And now we can give it right back to you. Oh, okay. It's a one-to-one attribution model which doesn't really exist right now i mean a lot of the actually
i won't go into that but that that's part of the um that's part of the marketing side that's
different that's that's novel and new tech yeah no that's that's pretty badass yeah because then
it stops post they say that posts that have links in them don't get downgraded now
because you're not technically leaving the app.
Because if you click on any post that has a website,
the browser just pops up in the post, goes to the bottom.
So Nikita and them say it doesn't hurt you your reach but i mean who knows yeah we're gonna
so we will still do the whole you know use code system if if that's what the brand wants but i'm
just saying we have an alternative that is linkless um as well so i mean it'll probably be both if i
were to say it but uh another thing is we will probably require disclosures because we don't want people getting banned on X.
Even though you're not getting rewarded directly on X for posting, if it's related to a tournament, it probably still needs the disclosures.
So I need to talk with Pons a bit more about that, and we'll probably reach out to X about that as well.
I could see that being
not a problem because i mean you're tweeting about a financial incentive gain i mean you're
you're tweeting in hopes of a financial incentive even if you are in one z and zits are on chain
you're being paid to post that essentially yeah and that's a good point i mean um the other
aspect of the platform is that
in a lot of cases, you'll be almost like triple farming the rewards because you'll have the squad
rewards, the individual rewards, the Zs, perhaps point mechanics in whatever client and brand,
like they have their own point systems that are linked to TGE. So there's going to be a lot of
farming opportunities. I mean, I won't call them, I i don't know farming is a bad word now i guess but nah maybe it's not a bad word well it's not
because you're yeah i mean you're going to be you're going to be like triple dipping because
not only do you get not only do you get zeet rewards you get abstract rewards for participating
on zeet holding the cards causing causing transactions. If you end up getting
rewarded Z in real time during a tournament, you're going to be spending those Z on more cards
or whatever. And then also if you're using the product, which I hope you do in a tournament,
then you're also going to be farming whatever they're doing. So it's like, you know, you're
double, triple dipping, if not more sometimes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So it's like, you know, you're double, triple dipping,
if not more sometimes.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So there's more rewards in a tournament
than just your squad rewards, your Z rewards.
Now, will the system work like it did in the past,
like every two days, depending on your refresh rate?
I was talking about that in captain space.
Will that?
It'll be more real time than that, it's going to be for the most part
in app and on chain interactions.
I mean,
social based,
there might be a delay depending on the data sources,
but yeah,
for the most part,
it's,
I mean,
there could be some,
like,
for example,
I'm just saying this hypothetically,
let's say there's a,
there is a,
um, task or request to get like a YouTube video tutorial about some protocol.
And, you know, the squad has people that are specifically working on that.
You know, maybe there needs to be some verifications there.
So it won't be instantaneous.
And also it might need to see how well the video is doing, for example.
So it's not going to be
instantaneous from that yeah yeah so i mean you could say within 24 to 36 hours you're going to
have rewards within a tournament maybe start hitting your zed account as far as zeds go
yeah as far as the zeds are concerned yeah yeah yeah and then the final payouts are with the
payouts from that point. So, yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, I like the new tech idea.
Johnny, what question you got?
What do you got?
Oh, I had a question, but Scott answered it because of the personal rewards.
What if I am doing really well?
If I am doing a lot of on-chain transactions
and everything using the platform. So it's cool. I don't need to rely on people who are
maybe a little lazy to do stuff. I can, for myself, bring the team forward, right?
No, and I think there's going to be something for everyone. Like, for example, for me, I mean, maybe I could have posted and got enough impressions engagement to be something for everyone. Like for example, for me, I mean maybe I could have posted
and got enough impressions engagement to be a top info 5v1 creator. Probably not.
But I am a person that will use a protocol. I'll put like a couple hundred dollars or a thousand
dollars into a protocol just to try it out. And those users might not be the type of users that
ever talked on the timeline. So those users are now going to be able to participate even more so than before and get rewarded
accordingly.
Because I think one of the failures of Info 5e1
is it kind of forgot about that user.
The high agency, I actually do try to do a lot of things in Web3,
but I don't talk about it user.
That user is still important because they're still
translating to real volume and real
transactions. So that user never got rewarded in Info 5v1 and I think the system will reward them
accordingly. That's amazing. And another question is I still can't send all my Zit cards in bulk.
I have I have sent that hundred right now to my abstract wallet,
but I'm still missing the other 100.
Now I have 240 on abstract.
Yeah, you got to get your agent to do that.
I actually don't know.
I haven't looked at the issue with the bulk transfer,
but I'll see if I can find some time today.
No, it's not a problem.
Is this your wallet with the meat bag PMP? Yeah you there okay have you guys seen any um any other um
interesting ideas from our competitors our previous i haven't been watching bro their radio
silence yeah i haven't really seen any activity from anybody on any of this stuff. I think, honestly, everybody's
waiting to see if you guys' model
exactly what it looks like in practice
and how successful it is.
Yeah, I'm waiting on Kaido
to do something with their
NFTs. They won't
change the metadata or do nothing like that,
but basically,
even if they just go as far as
multipliers or whatever, I'm waiting on them.
The only post I see are people shitting on their NFTs going further and further down.
I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't see anything.
You know, when I go to, tomorrow is going to be really interesting.
And I think it will get more eyes around zeet bearish this whole this
whole team as a whole um as far as xp goes depending on if they have everything locked in
because when you go to the seven day right now bearish is number one at 11.03 eath and oh that's
a question i had we got asked this is scammy project in ZEATS number two.
Yeah, there's been a bunch of abstract scams here lately, guys.
Any of these mints that pop up and are immediately at like 300 minted and there's like 200 left?
Don't mint that, guys.
They minted 300 of them just to get it at the top of the volume.
Don't mint those.
Scotty, when it comes to the 404 for bearish do you know if i would assume that open
c is not counting the volume on the coin side right for volume um yeah probably not though i
thought we linked the erc 20 to the is it not on the um on the collections page they should be
linked oh it may it may be okay um you want to go to you want to go around the hands here cheese
i think teacher katie was first and then lizzie and then dijoni yeah go ahead and i'm bringing
this other account up i checked its uh account to make sure they were by the way to talk about
something for the first time ever on ethos it managed to put an account in front of me that
i've heard of before it actually showed me lizzie's review of teacher katie and i finally got to hit
something other than i'm not sure for the first time ever on ethos anyway what's up teach
well hopefully it was a positive that you put that you click i not only click the thumbs up i
went and gave you a positive review myself not that my opinion means anything on ethos but
thank you i appreciate that i'll get you back uh scot, can you talk a little bit more about the other platforms that are involved and not just X? Anything?
Yeah, I mean, we revealed that there was up to 17 platforms that we're going to support. And the way that that happens is, and we haven't, I guess maybe it's revealed on the landing page, but there's been this talk of an extension that we've been building the last couple months, actually even before, this is actually even before Info5v1 was shut down.
We were building out this agentic extension that will basically allow you to verify anything without necessarily having API access.
We still can't do things with X, for example, because it's against their terms of service.
And potentially other platforms might have this issue but um yeah we have an extension that's going to be released that will aid a lot
of the verification process in an automated way that's cool thank you for sharing
awesome uh what's up lizzie side note we don't always need to talk about z i can talk about other things
yeah i know but you got all i'm just saying yeah we could talk about other things
i don't even want to show z like i think it can show itself you know i mean i know that you don't
but literally most of the spaces that i go to that aren't a bunch of fucking ai vibe code larp devs
are like the zeta's being brought up organically pretty heavily in the space right now.
That's how boring the space is right now.
Yeah.
That's how good the product's going to be.
Anyway, what's up, Lizzie?
Yeah, my question we have discussed is on one of the previous spaces.
It's about using your cards in different tournaments.
We ask if it's one card per tournament.
So if I have one wheel card only and then he is not joining other tournaments.
For example, there are three tournaments and they want to join other tournaments that he is not joining.
I can use other cards, right?
But if he is joining two and I have only one card,
will I be counted as joining every tournament he is joining
or one card per tournament strictly?
Yeah, I think we'll probably release something
that talks about the squad-ception stuff a bit more.
But the idea would be that if Whale isn't wanting to be a squad leader,
you know, per se, because he doesn't want to drive anything, like, tied to him,
but he himself joins a squad,
then folks that own a Whale could also be part of that squad,
but they would have to join it as well.
I guess it would be a way to join a squad
without necessarily owning a card but that's not exactly what we want we'll we will release more
information about how that will work yeah do you want to be able to reward the people that are
actually holding the card i mean that's your ticket you know what i mean there will be no
there you there will be an added benefit if it if it was something like i just said there'd be an added benefit. If it was something like I just said,
there'd be an added benefit to having the card.
I think having the card is very important, first and foremost.
Yeah, so the other side of that is if I have, say, five Von Dooms, or say I just have one Von Doom card,
and he enters five different tournaments,
does that one card only
work for one tournament or can I enter
all five with that one card?
I think if you block it to just
one, then it could be TBD on
that one. Yeah. If you
block it to just one, then it would
it would kind of
free up other creators cards needing to be required one
yeah but then two it would require more dedication to that one specific creator
like if you really believe in that creator well then you need to buy more of his cards
yeah that hasn't been talked about but i know what you're saying um it's a good point
because yeah there's there's some people practice it's going to be it would be an issue if like
there was five or ten ongoing tournaments for sure um well i mean i think at one point we had what
like 20 tournaments at peak maybe 15 tournaments at peak on season one of zeat so it it could end up it definitely is
possible yeah because i'm pretty sure we'll see another zeat actual zeat tournament yeah i would
say you know we're going to quickly evolve the system as we see issues arise but we haven't
yeah because like right now only have one lizzie card we can't predict every outcome of what what
will happen in practice.
but very quick to adapt,
I guess.
Exactly.
And that's what makes a good team is that if they can adapt and pivot really
fast and update mechanics and say,
Hey,
new,
new mechanic unlock for cards.
But like,
I only have one Lizzie,
but I have a rare Katie and a common Katie.
And if they're all in three tournaments and I'm like, Oh,
I want to put that, I want to put, you know, one-on-one,
I got to go buy more Lizzie's.
Yeah. I think another thought I'll put into your brains because, um,
I don't know if people realize like what we're building, um,
at like a foundational level. So if you think about what cards are,
I've mentioned their social fi aspects and they are, you know, the start of a creator capital market. And then in the past, we've had people
talk about, oh, Z is just fancy top V2, which we've always said that's not the case. What I won't say,
or what I won't disagree with though, is the capability for the cards to be used in that
infrastructure or that idea. So we're creating an asset that is an interoperable asset.
It is a foundational asset for a creator.
It doesn't mean that another company couldn't use ZEIT's cards
within a, you know, like a fancy V2 type of ecosystem
and have prize pools.
So I guess what I'm saying is like,
don't limit your brain to cards being strictly used
within the ZEIT ecosystem.
They actually can be used
anywhere because they're just nfts at the end of the day they're interoperable assets and that's
kind of one of the the interesting aspects that hasn't really been tapped into in web3 this whole
time like nfts being used cross ecosystem and leveraged in other protocols like this is the
stuff that um i want to see happen and you know i will say that
for right now z cars are used in the zed because but i have a dream that they they kind of you
know surpassed us well that's because when in the past the only thing that people talked about with
interoperability would been gaming and most of the people couldn't build the tech because
they don't want their skins leaving their game to
go to another game they want them buying money spending money in their ecosystem you know what
i mean yeah so like let me i'll leak something and ponds will probably hate that i'm gonna leak
something like this but i'm just gonna say it anyway because i think it's it shows how far
we've been thinking how far along we've thought about this and for how long we've thought about
so about six months ago we were you know we were exploring the whole Fantasy Top V2 concept.
We had talked to a couple partners launching card games and working with them directly as our fantasy platform.
And so some of those deals didn't come to fruition.
But there is a world where we can create strategic partnerships with, let's say, fantasy platforms that have Web3 integrations that use our NFTs for their platform.
Right. I mean, like we might not build a fantasy platform ourselves because that's not our core product anymore.
There was a time when we did think it might have been, but that was literally like seven months ago.
And we're not going to go down that path probably.
But it doesn't mean that we can't use our assets
in fantasy ecosystems if we find the right partner.
And so I guess what I'm saying is there's value
that can come out of the cars
that might not be visible right now,
but it could easily just manifest.
And that's part of the speculation there.
I like it.
Dijani, what's up?
First, I want to say I don't hear any space with so much alpha like your space.
And there's always something good coming out and Scotty coming here and sharing it. I mean, I'm almost living every day on Spaces
and I haven't heard so much Alpha in the last...
Well, you know, Jajani,
that's why there's this glowing green GigaChat aura
around us right now, you know, buddy?
That's how you end up with that.
Yeah, congrats again.
I like that you have finally the Giga chat.
But I also have a lot of assets on the abstract, so I also talk a lot about it.
But I'm graduated.
I just wanted to play the devil's advocate and say that there is not much going on right now in crypto so I understand that a lot of companies are on standby mode and they're waiting for people actually wanting to do something
on-chain and whatever the first project is which will bring us to doing on-chain
stuff it will get a lot of traction yeah so I believe that all of those
platforms the other competitors are also waiting for something to come on.
But maybe there is not something for them.
And I hope it's Zit which will catch the first.
Well, that's the thing.
If I was a brand right now, I would be fucking trying to beat Zit's door down.
Because right now on my timeline, they have the most mind share.
And it's like, I think the first few brands that are able to launch on z are going to really cook because
not only do they have the attention that's already there within z and abstract and if
z cards actually do well with xp that's going to be a main driver it's going to cause more people
to come buy more cards and hold them or do whatever they decide to do but then it's going to cause more people to come buy more cards and hold them or do whatever they
decide to do. But then it's going to get that much more attention on the tournaments that launch.
So if the prizes are bangers and, you know, people are getting rewarded daily within,
you know, Zets and stacking their Zets for the on-chain, you know, of ZITs in three years,
then, you know, it could end up being really big.
Katie, what's up?
This might be a stupid question, but...
That's kind of my department.
You want to DM it to me?
No, I'm just kidding.
Go ahead.
How much liquidity do you think we should expect to have in our wallets is it going to
cost a lot for us to participate in some of these tournaments
i mean i don't think it will cost you that much i mean again it depends on what it is if it's
signing up and doing a swap or something i mean need gas but honestly we'd probably try to figure out a way
to make it sponsored but um great yeah i mean thank you yeah i don't know yeah yeah i don't
know well i i think when you see kaido and they released their first thing it was you know the
the creators would get rewards for getting people to have a half a million in uh trading volume and you know
just different things like that so it's like you know while the fees may not be much and it doesn't
take much to get a bot over there and get the volume up um and that's the other side of it
there should be no world and obviously we'll look at the economics and it there
should never be a a case where it's like uh let me think of a project that had this problem i think
maybe elsa had this problem with wallchain where folks were spending i don't know 80 dollars and
prompts or whatever they were doing with elsa and then they only got like a hundred dollar airdrop
so they netted like twenty dollars there there should be no economics that work that way.
I'm going to make sure that it doesn't work that way.
That would be kind of dumb.
Yeah, I guess that's how I'll put it.
Nice.
Josie, what's up?
You got a question?
Yeah, sorry.
I couldn't unmute.
Scotty, how about you guys partner with Twitch so that my Z card is part of my subscription program?
Because that would be great.
I love you.
Also, for my OnlyFans.
Shout out to the OnlyFans founder.
I can't mute. Oh my God.
The OF adapter for the NFT.
I got you there.
Dude, RIP OnlyFans guy.
Josie, what exactly
do you mean by incorporated into your Twitch?
I'm not that Twitch native.
What exactly would that look like?
I'm curious what you mean by that.
Well, you guys know how Amazon Prime
has a partnership with Twitch.
So whenever you have Amazon Prime, you can use that to, like, subscribe to a, you know, streamer.
So what my thought process is, why not partner with, you know, them?
And then if you hold a card for a certain person who's on the blockchain, then, you know, yeah.
You can use that to subscribe to them.
But couldn't I just go over to your Twitch
and subscribe without a card?
Yeah, you can, but I'm also saying that you can do it
if you hold my card, then it's for free.
That's the point.
Oh, because you have paid subscriptions on your Twitch?
Yes, I have paid, yes.
You have to pay to subscribe to my Twitch,
and so if you already hold my card,
then that'd be a value that you can watch my streams and not have to deal with my ads if you hold my card.
I didn't even know that you could have paid subscribers on Twitch.
That's how I'm not Twitch native.
Yes, because Jox is amazing like that.
She's not a fake streamer.
Thank you very much.
I am 100% a fake streamer.
This is AI. You guys are watching right a fake streamer. This is AI.
You guys are watching right now on Abstract.
This is not even my face.
That's Claude Idiot.
That's right.
But no, that's interesting.
I didn't even, I actually didn't even know that.
So that's an interesting model.
Yeah.
So holding the card gives you access past, you know,
a paywall of some sort for given creators that have a paywall.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, just a thought.
I thought it'd be a cool way to integrate, like, blockchain technology into, like, Web2 type shit.
But couldn't you do that?
I'm trying to think now.
I'm trying to think now because then you would have to pay for that subscriber.
Because then you would have to pay for that subscriber.
Well, I'm sure there would be a way to do it if some type of streaming blockchain like was doing that, but they would also have to partner with them.
So then that would happen and blah, blah, blah.
But we all know which one I don't want that to be with.
Okay.
I love you.
Yeah.
It's not very giga chat of you to come up on a giga chat.
I'm not a giga chat, though. I'm a giga hater. Thank you very much. chat of you to come up on a giga chat i'm not a giga chat though i'm a
giga hater thank you i know you are i know well you know keep hanging out joxy you know some of
my giga greatness might rub off on you you know yeah just you know you know keep your cooties
away from me gross now now kenny has a partner to sit in the corner with. Yeah.
Wait, cheese, did they not give it to you?
They gave it to me and Kyle.
Oh, okay.
I thought you were about to say they didn't give it to you.
I was like, that's blasphemy.
Cut Kyle.
Oh, well, yeah, if they would have gave it to Kyle and not me,
we would not, I would not have streamed on,
yeah, it would have been over.
Yeah, and we would have had to split.
We would have been,
we would be hosting competing spaces right now, probably.
No, I would just go drive down to Miami and sit out there in a penguin costume
until Luca pulled me in for a meeting.
Yeah, that's some stuff that she would have done.
Yeah, Scotty, I went and golfed this weekend.
It was pretty bad. What did shoot it was it's been nice up uh it was oh it was very nice i don't even i can't even i don't even know
this the i don't even know what it was it was bad we lost many mulligans many uh i think about
five it was bad we were I was all over the place.
And then we reset at, because we were just playing best ball doubles.
But I mean, bro, we, the first nine, we were down, I think seven under.
Wait, you were seven?
No, like, no, we lost by seven.
Yeah, we were seven over.
Yeah.
Yeah, we lost. And it was to a we were seven over. Yeah, we lost.
And it was to a guy and his wife.
And it was so fucking annoying.
No offense to wives that are trying to figure out how to golf.
I can't golf worth the shit.
But fucking hell, every time she got up to tee off or do a shot,
he had to go position the ball.
He would set the tee.
He would say, twist this, this do that and i'm like
it took us bro last time ever yeah i might be a bad husband because i would never do that yeah
five and a half hours to go play around and i was just i was yeah it was it was it was wild but the
the back nine the back nine we cleaned up uh back nine we did good. Could she not bend over?
No, he was just like...
No, he was teaching how to line up the ball
and it's like, just put the fucking ball
on the tee, drive it, and go.
Yeah, if I was with my wife and you were golfing me,
I'd probably set her tees up too.
Oh shit, let's go!
Let's play golf with Scotty.
I've seen how good you look.
I'm sure your wife is a good-looking woman as well.
I'm going fucking golfing with Scotty.
Drinks on cheese.
Yeah, let's go.
Wow, interesting. Look at this.
Three minutes ago, Abstract just tweeted,
Portalstreaks have gotten an upgrade.
The 5% XP boost will now unlock after seven days instead of 30 that's making boost easier to obtain it's
not exactly what i asked for um because you still have to maintain the you still have to upvote every
single day but it doesn't take 30 days of not making a mistake right so if you do fuck up it's
only you're only fucked for a week instead of a whole you know instead of restarting a mistake right so if you do up it's only you're only for a week instead of a whole
you know instead of restarting a month cycle again um so that's pretty cool i like that that's a good
that's a good uh you know middle ground towards well mine still shows the oh i see it yeah
maintaining an upvote streak of seven so what happens when uh tomorrow your xp goes down again
what happens bro and we got GigaTrad?
Yeah, well, you know, and that's the thing,
right? Because we're going to have to see how this
looks now, right? I mean, it
seemed like,
I don't know, man. I mean, in the screenshot that
Sygar posted, it almost
seemed like NFTs are going to,
they're leaning towards
giving you a percentage bonus instead of,
you know, higher base XP. So is there still going to be next to no XP for holding the NFT to begin
with? Because I mean, I, you know, I was in the like mid 20 Ks to go to 3,900, I mean, I could have a 200% boost,
and I still wouldn't even be where I, you know,
even close to where I was previously.
I think they're going to give a base XP for NFTs holding them in general.
I think they will too.
Then there's going to be a select few that get a bigger boost
because they provided the most transactions
and they provided the most volume on chain.
So, you know, the one advantage you have of holding a bearish
is that whatever the mechanic that is required to farm XP is,
I will build the solution to make sure that we can farm the XP.
So that's an advantage of holding a bearish.
That's my dog.
Fucking right on. I have a question. we get xp for staking our bears i mean you did um again we i don't even know what
the new mechanic is going to be if it's just going to be multiple like a multiplier or a
percent bonus based off on chain transactions then i I'll have to make some magic happen
so that our holders have the ability to do that.
Because I'm not selling my bears or my bird.
They've got to have me fucked up
to think I'm going to do that just to get some XP points.
And that's basically all I hold on abstract.
I don't want you to do that.
Like I said, I'm going to set up
whatever farming techniques are required.
I'm going to set them up.
I don't care.
Thank you, Scotty. we love you scotty well you know this is the big advantage of having you know a galaxy brain team as well as you know not for nothing but the 404
aspect of the bearish nfts is interesting because it allows for you know very cheap transactions i mean i don't
know there's a lot of flexibility to be had in a 404 contract as far as like what you can do so i
you know look i've been saying this from the beginning bearish is my favorite shit
on abstract we could cook up a little something something with burr and
trades or something i don't know. You never know.
Well, even the yielding, you know.
You could.
Like a trait marketplace where I can go in there and strip my bear down boaty naked and come out just glazed over with cheese.
Now we're just speculating.
But, yeah, I get a cheese is great for sure.
Yeah.
But I'm just saying
like yeah you can have a trade marketplace and i can go recreate gw's pfp the only thing is saying
trait marketplace is the most bearish thing you could possibly say and i mean bearish actually
bearish not not yeah no i know but yeah i'll just call it whatever you want tomato tomato i mean it
But yeah, I'll just call it whatever you want.
Tomato, tomato.
I mean, you know.
But I mean, you could imagine if it's transaction based because it's a 404 and because we're staked and yielding.
I mean, imagine, you know, several claims happening automatically daily and just putting the ticker burr in your wallet for you or something.
You know, I mean, you know, they'd be micro micro transactions but they're still transactions i mean i yeah yeah no i i don't
think i'll ever do something where it's like uh a meaningless transaction i would at least
try to make it something interesting i guess if i do make it just a transaction, that would mean that I have given up.
But yeah, I'll try to make it interesting.
Hey, can you play Blanco with Burr token?
Or do you need to convert to ETH?
So we have it set up with ETH,
but it could work with Burr if we wanted it to.
We just haven't connected those dots yet.
Yeah, I don't know if
you want everybody to gamble their pfps away too i mean we'll take your needs but probably keep your
pfps yeah i don't know if we want people to lose their pfps gambling i mean it's happened probably
indirectly already um but yeah we don't want that. What about bearish outfitters? Now open.
You write down all your notes and send me the...
You know, I've been looking at the
honey conversion coming soon thing
for quite a while.
The definition of the word soon,
ever slippery in Web3, isn't it?
We try to keep it as loose as as possible um no but it needs to i guess
i'll comment on it um it needs to make sense economically i mean we haven't been buying back
the token explicitly that needs to be in place before we actually start releasing the token so
place before we actually start releasing the token so um conversations are being had that's
all makes sense yeah that makes sense i mean it's it'd be you know obviously if everybody just hit
the claim button today there'd be you know it is going to objectively create a a sell pressure on
the token so you need something to negate that in the opposite direction as well makes makes perfect
sense yeah there's a couple other things linked to that um you know market burbing using the marketplace in the bodega for example
what we would actually sell in there there's a couple things that are tied to all that
did i see you say something about burby and uh burby and uh flipped, you can exchange your burr for
zeats?
I had not said that, no.
You trying to make that happen?
No, I'm not.
Wildly fucking swinging
trying to milk out a hair.
No, but like if I could claim
my stuff, my honey
and get, instead of getting
the full value of the
honey, so
say I was supposed to get $100 in burr,
well, then I would just
get 50% of that, but it would be
in the form of Zs.
So the team is actually
buying it back, but
giving an asset at less than
you know what I mean?
What's more valuable?
I like the idea. I just don't know
how much
how much we want to do that.
She's also
by the way trying to figure out a way
to get people to price seats. That's what
he's really after. No, I'm not. I mean, you know, you
can go to man versus
coins website.
Right now, he has
Zitz priced at, hold on,
speculation,
.0343 is the median right now.
That's where he has it at.
No, I mean,
the pricing's already out there.
Did he already get the, he must know
the total circulating supply then, too?
I don't know how he's getting these numbers.
At the bottom, his disclaimer, Z is an internal non-convertible currency.
These estimates derive from secondary market price correlations
and should be treated as speculatively only.
Yeah, I think he's basically looking at where things are trading
on OpenSea versus the Zee marketplace
and doing some math between the two
based on common cards that have sold on both platforms.
That would be my guess.
I don't know that for a fact.
What's up, Katie?
And then we'll go to Johnny.
So much for Scotty, not talking about Zee.
But anyway, another question for you.
Is the bearish, if you hold a bearish card, is the chat in the Z platform going to open?
If bearish, you mean with the bearish card?
Is the squad chat going to be open?
Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just curious.
Any update on what those are actually going to do open? Just curious. Any update on what
those are actually going to do?
The squad chats? No. The bearish
Z card.
The brand cards.
I think it will function similar
to what you would expect.
Whatever you think it does, it's probably what it will do.
Bro, trust me. I've been imagining
for fucking five years.
That gets a little wild.
Because I'm expecting it to be like a multiplier.
Yeah, I've imagined myself down 98% on my portfolio over the last five years.
I've imagined myself into a negative ethos review.
Welcome to Web3.
Fucking.
I think you guys need to do Web3 better.
Yeah, skill issue for sure.
Right? Yeah.
God almighty.
Dajani, what's up?
Talking about
bears.
Other bears on
bear chain, they're
moving to ETH, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, we talked about that last week.
Wait, what?
Steady Teddies?
Steady Teddies are migrating ETH.
Yeah, they're going to mainnet
because bear chain is dead.
Yeah, dude.
They're just going to be
the 700th m'lady derivative on mainnet
instead of being on the chain
where their IP makes sense.
Yeah, I mean,
I like the Steady Teddy guys.
I mean, I met him on a space and um one that carlo
hosted speaking of carlo again but um yeah i like that team i'm surprised they would go to eth though
i mean is anything happening on barra chain anymore i shouldn't say i'm surprised it's just like
they were the pfp on barra no i mean that was like the
on Barra, no? I mean, that was like the...
Yeah, I mean, that was
100% it. The last
one sold for $83.
What if Barrage went to Barrage
just to replace them? We'll just do like a hop.
Scotty, I'm just going to
fucking pretend like I didn't hear you
say that, dude. Are you selling already?
Holy shit, dude.
I'm trying to beat
Josie to the unhibernate button.
Oh, my God.
What if they paid us five mil and I just gave it to all the holders?
Equally distributed.
You care?
We're getting closer.
There it is.
I got it.
Dante, stay away from that bear
Now I think GW
Created that in the comments
I think that's the blue bear
He was talking about and he just put a piece of
Cheese on top of his head
Like the duck head traits
See I like it though
Not bad
That's pretty cheesy
What else did we not cover today Not bad. That's pretty cheesy.
What else did we not cover today?
We kind of covered it, right?
We didn't talk about Mad Lads.
People are mad about that.
Everybody that's bitching about Mad Lads.
300 fucking dollars.
Oh, go ahead, Johnny.
Go ahead and bitch about it so I can dunk all over your fucking bitch ass face.
Go ahead, buddy.
I needed somebody to fund this.
Bro, you have been doing the same to Jesus today.
You have been doing the same to Jesus today several times.
Bro, Mad Lads have been airdropped tens of thousands of dollars through the lifetime of that project.
More than that, probably.
Yeah.
Probably more than that.
I don't know if they've gotten over 100 grand worth of airdrops.
Maybe not, but I bet it's approaching that.
If you added up all of the airdrops,
and Mad Lads, I believe, were a free mint originally,
and it was probably the fucking last remaining collection anyone even gives a fuck about on Solana.
Like, I don't know, man.
Yeah, this airdrop didn't make you rich.
This one particular airdrop.
Everybody quit your bitching, though.
Good God.
Anyway.
Yeah, they've given over 20 grand in airdrops for sure.
Well, I actually didn't see the latest controversy.
What was the airdrop?
Did it just partner with somebody and you got an allocation?
They got a...
They got...
So I don't know if backpack is is their official token but it's one they
were heavily rewarded backpack was a wallet it's a it's like an exchange keckhoff's coming up he
might know yeah and so they got 290 basically per mad lad is what they got um who complains about
free money i that that i don't know so right'm looking. I mean, that's their original token.
So like what the creeps would give you one time for the worth of the NFT.
It could very much so happen.
Look at the creeps floor right now.
It's fucking a cheeseburger.
So if they did a TGE right now, I would expect you to get just a fucking dipping sauce of ranch.
Yeah, but they make you burn the NFT. It's not like you have to burn the NFT to get just a fucking dip in sauce of ranch yeah but they make you burn the
nft it's not like you have to burn the nft you get the claim then i would be you know then i would
have to be at least yeah some multiplier over it but yeah um so according to grok it looks like
per mad lad uh totals per mad lad community estimate ranges from 15 000 to 40 000 usd in total airdrop
value since they launched i didn't exactly narrow it down i know on the higher end it's 25 to 40
000 well it depends on peak pricing and unlocks and things like that. But it said based off of Holder's post,
it's 20 to 35K plus.
So, you know, it's still a lot of money per Mad Lad,
per NFT over the lifetime of having it.
You know, creeps were supposed to have an airdrop season
where we were getting bathed in fucking money
for years to come.
And you see where that happened.
We got Portal and then...
Wait, real quick. What did you get for the Portal
airdrop? Did you actually get
money? I'm actually curious about that.
It was a pretty decent amount.
The thing is, it was vested.
Honestly,
I'm trying to remember.
It was about $2,500 a creep.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, but you never could pay out $25,000.
Well, you couldn't, but I mean,
like I invested in angel rounds,
so I did really, really well.
Yeah, but that's what they're saying.
We're talking about airdrops.
Yeah, we're talking about airdrops for the NFTs.
I agree.
So it was... The problem there was, though, that it was vested. And by the time you would have got your full amount, you were pretty cooked. And then they tried to get everybody to stake it, promising rewards for staking it that never materialized. So like a lot of the actual NFT community got pillaged pretty hard because they staked all the tokens and, you know,
but look, I mean, I sold them.
I was claiming every now and then and just selling.
So it was, you know, it was a nice little stimmy here and there.
Dobbins just said in the comments, made 16K from Portal, good airdrop, rest was vested
8K over months i probably got like eight i vaguely remember
getting like 850 bucks worth of portal just for all the tweeting and shit that we did too if you
really participated in the crystal dash shit so i mean there was a lot of ways the portal made
money for people in several different ways yeah yeah what was the fcv of portal when it came out though i think we're at like three at the
all-time high was like three what was it three dollars and 80 cents or something when it was
like three billion it was a three billion market cap holy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean that
also explains why it went down i mean three billion is insane yeah well that and then there was no other further product but yeah uh well when you start high you
can only go down isn't that how it works well exactly like pharmacist still comes on this stage
you know fucking praising me because i got him into the the tweeting about it and you're talking
about a guy who lives uh in another country who literally made like 80 000 just for tweeting
is it i mean the guy cooked you know it was life-changing money so let me let me ask you
a question about this so let's say hypothetically because i've you know i don't know which side to
take on this by the way okay so you have the side with portal where a company is probably overvalued,
but everybody can go ahead and sell at time of TGE and make, you know,
maybe a hundred X cause it's like a 3 billion valuation.
Or would you rather have an investment in the company that goes at a 10
million FTV and hopefully we'll go up like which one, which, which,
which, which side do you take? Like one,
obviously you have to wait and the other, you,
you have this cell pressure.
It literally depends on who the team is.
Cause there are teams that I will be happy to take my money and run.
Cause it's like y'all, y'all are clearly grifters.
And then, you know, there are teams that I choose to believe in.
So it kind of depends on.
Yeah.
It depends on who it's coming from.
Really?
99.9% of the time, I'm hitting the sell button.
If it was you guys, yeah, I would hold.
I would take...
Bullshit.
Bullshit what?
No, no, no.
It depends.
One, it depends on where I'm at financially in my life.
Because if I have enough money and I believe in you guys,
I just did it for fucking four years with these assholes.
So no, 100%.
If I believe in the team, I'm going to take out what I need at the time.
And if I feel like, oh, I need to start selling some more often,
then I'll fucking sell.
And that's what I did with Portal.
portal well what do you think about this though on maybe this is on like the psychology or game
Well, what do you think about this though?
Maybe this is on like the psychology or game theory side.
theory side so the 10 million dollar company might never ever reach a three three billion fdv
the reason why portal was able to do what they did was because they capitalized on the hype
so it's like there was a hundred percent or 99.9999 chance that that was going to go down
because it started at such a high fdv but then it's also maybe the same percentage for a $10 million FDV to get to $3 billion.
So is it better to start high or start low?
So Scotty, I also think the fact that it was on finance and that was back when centralized
exchange listings were super bullish, so that also added fuel to the fire.
But look at Sports.Fun as an example.
Smaller FDV on launch did pretty well initially.
Now, obviously, with no football going on,
soccer's kind of in between the World Cup and the Champions League right now.
I think, you know, I do think the smaller FDV to start with
and then allow it to grow is probably better
because unequivocally, like, if it is a smaller FDV to start with and then allow it to grow is probably better because unequivocally, if it is a high FDV, there's a 99% chance it's going to go down.
I mean, look at Monad, right?
Started 2.5 bills, dipped all the way down to 1.something.
It's still sitting around 2 bill, but it's down from the TGE price.
You can go on a list of looking at other coins that TGE'd over the past year, two years.
99% of them are probably down,
you know, from a higher FDV starting point.
So yeah, I think it's probably like,
if you're legit building,
I think it's probably smarter to start
with a smaller FDV and let it grow.
I 100% agree with that.
But then here's the other thing
that I'll just point out.
The people that are investing early want a higher FDV because they can get liquidity
and maybe a higher multiple to get out of the project.
But those are the same people that are investing in these new companies with a lot of money.
investing in these new companies with a lot of money.
So it's like there's a very weird dichotomy between the people that have money,
they want to invest, but they also want to get the liquidity out as fast as possible,
so they want a high FDV.
But then if you're a project that's building, for me,
I'd rather start with the low FDV because I'm going to keep building stuff.
But investors might not necessarily want that because they actually might have to wait to get liquidity.
So there's like a real weird misalignment between those two sides.
Well, I think a lot of teams TGE now are getting real, you know, like structuring the vested part.
You know, it really comes down to tokenomics, right?
How much is claimable upon TGE versus what's vested over the next, you know, 12 to 24 months?
Yeah, I guess it would play into factor depending on like how much they're able to claim a TGE, right?
Well, and some of these teams, though, are being pressured by the people that invested in them to launch the token so they can get whatever liquidity out of the brand that so that's why some of these tgs are happening it's not because
the team wants it it's because the people that put the money in the same thing happened with with us
with portal the people that invested in angel and even other rounds uh were so excited about the amount of money we made and then boom portal
comes out with crystal dash season two and you have it for somo they raised 20 million dollars
within a day and then we haven't seen the money in years and everybody jumped on the opportunity
to to do that because there were so many people that missed the opportunity to
invest early in portal. And unfortunately it's, it's where it is now. Um, but yeah,
if I'm financially okay to not need all the money that I put in out, if I can get the money I put
in out and a two or, you know, two X or three X above and still put in out in a 2X or 3X above
and still ride some out with a really good team,
I would gladly do that.
But I would also, in my personal life,
have to be financially sound to be able to handle that loss.
That's the problem.
Kick off and then we'll go to Josie.
Kick off. What up? problem you know uh kick off and then we'll go to Josie kick off what up oh good talk kick off Josie what's up I just want to let you know Scotty to be completely
transparent I will sell some of my burr and honey so I can pay my nails.
That's it.
I just want enough money to get my nails done.
That's it.
That's all I'll sell for every month. I need to immediately get your OnlyFans connected so we don't have that problem.
Please and thank you.
Only Josie.
Here we go.
This is why I like the Bears team.
This founder actually knows how to make his holders happy
and has good tech, and he's the best.
And he puts up with me harassing him in DMs.
Did you say Bearachain or Bearish?
Bearish.
And a cheese.
Come on, cheese.
Dude, what do you own on Bearachain?
What is with the fucking Barachain show today dude
What position are you trying to get out of dude
Wait am I allowed to say that
I'm not the one that said Barachain
She said this is why I like the Barachain
I'm sorry I'm from California
I don't enunciate my words
I knew what she said
I don't know what Jesus is doing
I knew what she meant But I heard what she said. I don't know what Jesus is doing. I knew what she meant, but I heard what she said.
So, just correcting.
Nar.
Don't need nobody clipping anything, saying that she's a fucking
Barra chain maxi and, you know, or anything else wild today.
Everyone buy Barra.
It's the best.
Damn. Damn.
Yeah.
What are we doing here, bro?
Nothing.
I think we've done what we've came to do.
That's right.
This week, Scotty said we will have more information on squads.
I think tomorrow is going to be an important day for abstract.
Yeah.
I think it's going to be a very,
I think last week they can say Luke is not involved all they want,
but I guarantee you Luke could DM somebody and said,
y'all need to fix this shit.
I don't want to say I'm dealing with enough.
I ain't got time to be scrolling on the timeline and seeing people fudding the green chain.
You know?
Then he went into the igloo all mad and upset.
Like, you know.
What?
This guy pretended like he was in the igloo now.
No, I'm not.
But I've seen all the people talking about it.
We have friends.
You read messages yourself from people that Luca... I've heard several... You should be HR for them. You read messages yourself from people that, Luca...
You should be HR for them.
You know that? You and
Idiot. You guys should both be the HR
for Abstract Chain.
Well, just to announce it,
an idiot and I
were hired as HR for Z.
So if you have any complaints, come to us.
We didn't want to announce it yet,
but Scotty just said I can leak that out.
Hold on now.
I don't recall signing off on a salary or anything here yet.
We haven't been paying for years.
What the fuck's this any different?
Yeah, it's true.
Based on your guys' history, that means Z's going to go down.
Weef the cards.
Weef them all.
No, we're not doing that.
Kenny.
Flowers.
Yo, what up?
I figured you would have jumped in on some of the Bears talk.
This guy holds three Bears now, Scotty.
Like, I thought he only bought one, but he ran out and bought three.
And he caught the absolute bottom.
Like. That's what good triggers do bro i've always said kenny powers is a power bottom dude like for sure yeah see
meta rising just said dude he spoke zero about abstract but i was saying in private luca
messaged somebody and said fix this shit yeah but look i also think that the inner
igloo is not supposed to be about abstract it's supposed to be about pudgy penguins exactly 100
i wouldn't expect him to talk about why did you buy bearish is it because we talked about guns
yeah bro when i heard y'all are pro uh handgun licenses, I was like, yo, I'm buying some fucking bears right now.
That's right.
Look at my cap, dude.
I'm fucking military down here.
Fucking go.
No, honestly, I've been wanting to buy bears.
I mean, for over a year.
I just was kind of like looking, looking.
I had weak bids on one particular one.
Couldn't get that.
But yeah, I saw the price action
right after the whole abstract NFT
FUD hit. And I was like,
why are bears at like .4?
.04? I was like, this is egregious.
So yeah, I went and scooped up a few
nice ones too. I like them.
And I'll probably see if he changed it
at some point here. So, shout out.
Ooh.
Ooh.
For those that don't know kenny powers has had the same fucking pfp literally since i met him fucking four years now going strong yeah but honestly like another
part is because look we talk to you practically every day on spaces uh and and that goes a long
ways with me as far as like founders who are accountable
and, you know, out there interacting
with their community. That's fucking big.
Unfortunately, I'm in a project right now
where we have zero communication.
So it's refreshing to be in a project
where fucking, you know,
we're getting a chance to sit here and bullshit
with you for two hours a day. It's fucking fun shit.
So I'm working, by the way.
I might be bullshitting, but I'm working.
I'm just throwing that out there.
I'm just throwing that out there.
Let me go refresh this Z-Page
and see if anything's been updated
because I ain't seen nothing new.
Well, hey, I know Scotty.
I know that you're working, dude.
Somebody's got to pick up the slack
while Carlo's on a permanent vacation, dude.
You got to get after it.
I know, and fucking Tully's done turned into uh alex fan uh with his ai courses so it's like scotty's all by
himself well he has vanna yeah well but he gets commands from toly's fucking club bot that fucking
says do this for the day.
And the guy's left in the fucking basement.
Can't even go golf.
Can't do anything.
You know, he's left on his own.
Vanna.
And now he's got to deal with cheese and fucking an idiot.
He's the head of HR.
Pretty wild.
Pretty wild.
Wait, can I model the merch Scotty I already am modeling y'all's socks and hats
So can I model the merch
When we have merch
You will be my number one call
Let's fucking go
Me bears the fuck up
Yeah when are we going to see
One of the blow-up bear
costumes dancing around on X?
That's what you need.
She's going to be eating the hot dog with honey.
The bear one I have,
there's no way I can eat a hot dog
inside of it because it's like
completely enclosed.
There's a gif where it has
Josie eating a bearish
or a hot dog with a bearish.
That's what's got us 5 billion views.
We owe her a lot, honestly.
Glizzy bear.
There's honey everywhere.
Dijani,
you can be head of foreign relations, sir.
My dog gets sick of the bullshit.
I don't know if you can hear that.
I'm eating now spare ribs, I hope gets sick of the bullshit. I don't know if you can hear that. I'm eating
now spare ribs. I hope
like a real American.
Fuck, man. I forgot to
put the ribs on the fucking
smoker. Son
of a bitch. We ain't eating ribs tonight.
Ain't no ribs over here.
That sucks.
Damn, man.
You have enough time
no bro
when I do them I put them on at like
6 in the morning
and the babies cook nice and slow
you're over there
eating some like you're gonna need
a toothpick when you're done with yours
mine they don't
the meat melts in your mouth
it barely even touches your tongue, and the shit is gone.
You have to come back to America.
Bro know that I need no toothpick.
See?
Exactly.
It's because you got hard meat.
Nobody wants hard meat in their mouth except fucking Kenny.
Damn, dude.
Beat me to it, dude. Damn. wants hard meat in their mouth except fucking kenny all right damn dude bb do it dude yeah damn
i seen you reaching for your phone or your mic or something i was like nope got him why were you
why were you the person who laughed the hardest at your own joke is my question
i'm a father okay we laugh at our own shit if you if you're not a dad and you're not laughing at your own jokes,
I don't know what to tell you.
Then your jokes are just not that good.
That's all there
is to it.
Kenny, you should
reach out to some of your kids that you haven't heard
from in a while or that you just
haven't talked to and ignored.
I make TikToks with my daughter.
We do all kinds of crazy shit.
You gotta live a little, Kenny.
I don't know if Kenny Powers'
fucking grandpa-ass heart
can handle a trip to Colombia right now,
but that's definitely where he's got kids
scattered all across the landscape.
Have you been in Thailand
or any Asian country, Kenny?
Oh, you thought you seen Kenny over in Thailand? No, no. I've been in myailand or any asian country kenny oh you thought you seen kenny over in
thailand no no i stayed in my americas for the most part i haven't traveled outside i went to
palestine when i was a kid uh just to visit family but outside of that yeah no i usually
just travel to south america central america i like the latinas let's put it that way
yeah and i would advise no travel.
We are amazing.
I will approve of that message.
Especially out of LaGuardia.
You have never been in Europe, Kenny?
No, no, I haven't.
When you come there, I will make you feel good.
Whoa.
What?
Johnny's got a fucking milking table for you, baby.
No, I mean, he will get good food.
He will see the mountains, etc.
Are you trying to wipe him up or something, Johnny?
Because that's what it sounded like.
He's taking this new job serious.
When I've been in New York.
Dijani, what exactly does
it cost for me to
be made to feel good, as
you put it? Dijani,
as co-head of HR,
I'm firing you from head of relations,
of foreign relations.
That job lasted for
five seconds. You're cooked. that job lasted for five seconds.
You're cooked about as hard as your ribs.
you know, you know how it would be unintentionally funny with me.
So I bet you will never forget the European trip.
When I've been in New York,
I met,
a guy from the creeps community and yeah,
he made a good time with me and the next time when
some americans come to europe i want to give them the best time bro you can't say make a good time
like that card holder should be eligible the johnny card holder should be eligible to dispute time Oh, that's so good to Johnny. Um, all right. Well, cool. Well, Kenny, get over there.
Did Johnny make you good time? Long time.
I was going to keep going.
Oh my God. All right. Fuck. going, but I can't. I'm going to not stop dying. Fucking 10 minutes, dude.
Oh, my God.
All right.
Fuck.
Cool.
Everybody have a good day.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Bye, everybody.
I'll see you soon, Dijani.
Damn.
