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Reality Check 🧀🎙️
Recorded: July 8, 2025 Duration: 0:59:09Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the implications of a major fundraising event aiming to raise $600 million, the impact of social media on investor sentiment, and the emergence of AI-generated music in the crypto landscape. The conversation highlighted trends in market reactions and the importance of transparency from project founders.
Full Transcription
Dust on the wind, boots on the ground, smoke in the sky and no peace found.
Rivers run red, drums roll slow.
Tell me, brother, where do we go raise your hand don't look away sing out loud Not for pride, let that flag turn with the tide.
Guitars cry out, bullets fly.
Mama prays while young men die ashes fall on sacred land we still got time Raise your hand, don't look away.
Sing out loud, make them pay.
March for peace, not for pride.
Let that flag turn with the tide. Bye. smoke will clear truth won't bend let the song fight till the end.
All right.
GM, GM, GM.
Kyle, you got me?
Everybody here?
Good morning.
Morning, morning, morning.
Hey, what did you think of that song?
I got here late.
I mean, it's a good song.
I didn't hear the thing to comment on your audio quality this morning.
Yeah, no, I don't give a fuck about the audio quality.
I'm just asking about the song
itself. Yeah.
Why is that
song a point of attention this morning? I'm not sure.
No, well, because
it's the very first
AI-generated
band on Spotify that has surpassed 1 million monthly listeners.
And now there's debate whether or not Spotify should take them down.
Like, I think there's a whole Polymarket thing on it.
And there's one on Myriad as well.
But all of that was AI- and they have they have a ton of
songs bro like it's pretty wild yeah what's really wild is i almost did the hot girl with
a band t-shirt thing where i pretended like i knew what that band was for a second yeah it's not a
real bad holy dude you almost caught me yeah it's called it's called uh the the velvet sundown
It's called
The Velvet Sundown
is what it's called.
They have a bunch of songs.
They have
11,325 followers.
This was as of yesterday.
554,451
monthly
listeners.
Pretty wild, man.
Nice to good sound.
I didn't listen to enough of it to know.
Like, I mean, did the lyrics seem coherent at all?
Yeah, no.
I mean, it was good music.
I seen it.
I seen Barstool Sports post about it yesterday
after I had seen the thing on Myriad Markets.
And then in the Barstool sports article it actually had um other songs like
embedded into the article so but yeah it's all 100 ai fucking uh ai generated music so i was like
man that's pretty interesting the problem with this stuff from the copyright standpoint, and I don't have a problem with it, right?
But the legal issue is that these AIs are sourcing everybody else's music and what's successful to create something.
So it's like, no, it's like a gray area with copyright infringement.
I don't think.
Not really.
I mean, if I'm a famous artist, I was probably inspired by a lot of famous artists that I listened to before, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Everybody copies off one another.
But the interesting thing, I mean, like you go in probably in the AI and whatever the fuck and say, I want, you know, the guitar in this key and the drum at this beat and fucking like, and then this, you know, in the song will fucking song it out you know
uh i know when you get on sora you do the same thing so like it's yeah it's uh
yeah pretty uh pretty interesting so yeah it's uh but yeah i figured i'd play that and see what
anybody had if anybody had even
recognized it but yeah uh but anyways gmgm everybody what do we owe the pleasure of
your presence here today yeah i know two days in a row this is wild
kenny yeah maybe it's a lady who's live and he's present yo gm what's up what's. What's up? What's up? What's up?
What's up?
Yeah, no.
What's up with you?
What are you doing over there?
Are you playing poker or something?
No, I'm not playing poker.
Who are all these people you're bringing up, bro?
Brother, I don't know.
I'm not getting off track.
And we're not having half of Uganda come up in this motherfucker today.
Oh, we're definitely getting off track today, brother.
That's what you fucking bring me around for.
Say what's up to this m'lady PFP that doesn't follow me
and probably didn't retweet the room.
What's up, the thatweb3boy.soul?
Holy fuck.
Oh, my God.
Here we go.
He's about to show us a ticker.
I can already fucking spell it.
This is Jatoshi's alt account.
That's what it is.
I don't...
Yeah, I think they're just farming.
Yeah.
You coming off mute?
That Web3 boy?
Yeah, no.
We're not doing this, bro.
Next!
Yeah, no.
I'm just...
I'm nexting right now. Yo, I will say this, bro. Yeah, no, I'm just, I'm nexting right now.
Yo, I will say this.
Yeah.
I heard we're trying to get Jesus off topic today.
Yeah, no, we're not, Pete.
But anyways, but no, Kyle, nobody else unless they're going to, you know them, they're going to fucking talk.
Yeah, Kyle.
All right, so we are doing a giveaway.
Thanks to Hans and Genuinely Undead.
It's a dope fucking genuinely undead.
How do I win, dude?
The very first pinned tweet.
You gotta just fucking, you know.
So funny, I'm afraid.
The very first pinned tweet.
Jesus, what brand?
I'm not, but it's gonna...
What brand of rape whistle do you keep in your pocket?
I'm just curious.
It's kind of soft and singly.
Stranger danger. Like, yeah. But, yeah, we need It's kind of soft and like that.
Yeah.
But yeah, we need
order in this motherfucker today
because we only have an hour.
We only have an hour today, bitch. You and Kenny Powers
made that decision without me. Anyway, sorry.
Yeah, we only have an hour
and we got a lot to get to
but we are giving this genuine undead
away. Very first pin tweet. Make sure you follow the rules. It we are giving this genuine undead away very first pin tweet make sure you
follow the rules um it is a dope ass genuine undead and uh we'll give that away here later on
uh in the space but anyways yeah uh gmp how are you uh what's up dude i got some alphas i got some
alphas today okay come on what you want to dude, is you want to go to Wallet Connects Twitter, right? And don't get scammed.
No token has dropped.
But they're doing a big old token thing for, like, if you've used, you know, Backpack or Phantom Wallet or the Solana Mobile or if you're on the Jupe DAO or if you've used Soul Flare.
I've used a lot of Soul Flare.
I'm sure we've all used Phantom.
Yeah, there's going to be a claim for a token.
And they posted an eligibility criteria link right on their Twitter.
It's their pinned tweet.
And I think everybody is probably eligible, so you should probably go see if you can get $11.
Okay, is that how much it is?
And then, Jesus, what you want to do is you want to go to my profile.
You want to click my cube referral link, and you want to take that $11 and farm cube,
which you could do with $11 and easily get thousands of dollars in volume if you just trade shit back and forth.
Just do a bunch of swaps. Keep it swapping. Get cubes.
Keep it swapping. Use pennies on trade.
You know, stack your blocks.
And that's my
album. Save it, Pete. Judge, it's not in the room right now.
We got to save the...
Yeah, you don't have to
stroke it that much.
I got a job I got to do, you know.
Yeah.
No, but the Walton Mac thing, I do think Mike
Cook, dude, they have a lot of money.
Yeah, no, they, you know, if but the wallet connect thing i do think might cook do they have a lot of money yeah no they uh you know if you were an active user on myriad markets um you know they did a wallet connect campaign where they gave away i think a hundred thousand dollars on wallet connect
150 000 yeah um people got paid um yeah it doing really good. It was up over a dollar for a while there.
I'm not exactly sure where it is right now.
But yeah, pretty solid team behind that.
I listened to an interview once with the founder.
And yeah, they're trying to do some stuff.
Yeah, they're in cahoots with the Rug Radio people for sure.
And I like those people.
So yeah.
There you go.
There you go.
There you go.
I'm the Alpha Call Lord, dude. Yeah. All right. Well, we appreciate it. Also you go. There you go. There you go. There you go.
Yeah. All right.
Well, we appreciate it. Far coin.
Somebody saved my bag.
Also, if
you are actively participating
in Sugartown Poker
events, only a few weeks left
to get into the main event,
which is in, I think, two or three weeks.
They just opened up their tournaments.
Make sure you sign up for the WSOA qualifiers.
They're filling up quickly.
Kenny.
And try and get into the main event.
Can you break it down for me like I'm a fucking idiot over 35 seconds?
How does one play poker with Sugartown?
How much money do you need, and what's the deal?
Sugartown has their tournaments.
They're doing an eight-week series, a world series of abstract events where if you finish
and if you win or finish in the top three in the bigger tournaments, you get an automatic
ticket into the main event, which they're going to do a bunch of giveaways on that,
a bunch of giveaways on that meme coins nfts stuff like that um basically if you own any sugar town
meme coins, NFTs, stuff like that.
um nfts or cores on abstract you get low cards and you burn those for energy you register in
into these tournaments with the energy that you receive by burning your low cards so anyone can
participate you can buy low cards if you want to um It's very confusing. How do I know how many low cards I have?
Just log into Sugar.Town, burn your low cards.
You own Auras, so you're going to have a bunch of cards.
You burn those, and then you register for the tournaments.
They're 99-man, 45-man, 297.
And if you finish, like I said, if you win or finish in the top three in the big tournaments, the 300-man tournaments, you get an automatic ticket.
You get an NFT dropped into your abstract wallet, which will qualify you to play in the main event where they're going to give away a bunch of shit.
So it's worth doing it if you like poker and want to win some free shit.
I have 54 cards.
Yeah.
So you probably know you're you burn those 540 energy
I got like a thousand plus cards by now
you just burn your low cards
and that's going to give you your energy
the energy is kind of like can you wager different amounts of energy
somehow
any game you go in
you can raise the amount
should I burn all of it
I should right
burn all of it and should right yes yes burn all
of it and then go register go to the uh poker and go register for some tournaments uh pete
yeah make sure they're the wsoa qualifiers because those are the ones that again if you win or
finish in the top three in the larger ones you you're going to get the automatic bid into the main tournament.
So you actually have to be kind of good
at poker in order to win? No.
I don't think so. What do you mean
no? You need to
be decent to win.
You could get lucky. They make it really
easy. I gotta admit, I don't know
poker very well. I know I keep saying this.
I kind of get the basics,
but I don't know that much. it. Like, if you just handed
me a bunch of cards, I wouldn't know what the fuck to do or what
was going on. But Eli makes it
pretty fucking intuitive. Yeah, I think I remember
that dude, Eli, who's that big abstract
guy, saying he won
a tournament and he doesn't even know how to play poker.
Well, that's what they say when you just
get given a pass
to go to the next round. That's also what they say when you're get given a pass to go to the next round.
That's also what they say when you're getting fucking hustled.
I bet that Eli motherfucker, dude.
He's probably grand champion poker player.
Wait, grand champion.
That's chess.
Never mind.
Yeah.
What is this shit, dude?
Yeah, I'm registering for a few right now, and then I'll go back through and register.
Just click on it and register.
It's on Sugartown Poker after distinctly saying, if I remember correctly, we are not getting off track. and then I'll go back through and just click on it and register.
Well, I mean,
it opened up today.
They announced yesterday that Bearish is now...
There's a Bearish event.
So the Bearish is fucked community event.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't. I'm going to kick the motherfucker.
Wait a minute. If you had a connectivity issue, no. It's too late. Don't. I'm going to kick the motherfucker. Wait a minute.
If you had a connectivity issue,
you got to give the fucking brother a chance.
I got a question, dude.
There is a million
things I can register for. Yes.
Which one should I register for?
WSOA qualifiers.
Qualifier number 99?
Yeah, you can enter that one. Oh, I'm looking at that right now.
There's a bunch of them.
They're basically run Wednesday, Thursday, Friday at different times.
You can register for how many you want to.
You want to do the WSOA ones because those are the ones that will get you into the main event if you finish at the top.
How many lightning bolts should I use?
Just use the minimum.
I mean, you have 540.
Yeah, 10 is the average.
Think about how many different games you want to register for
and how much energy you have and kind of spread that out.
You've got enough.
You've got enough.
Yeah.
All right, Mr. Dot Soul, you've got approximately 10 seconds
to make Jesus fall in love with you,
or he's probably going to eat you off the fucking stage again.
So what's up?
I think this guy's trolling us right now.
Ooh, this one's 30 minimum buy-in, huh?
Wow. Yeah, it's a smaller amount
of people, though, so you don't have as much confidence.
Bro, don't let these motherfuckers back
on the stage, please. I now see the error of my
ways. I registered for four games.
There you go.
Give me a chance. Quit requesting.
And now I have to play them tomorrow kenny
you yeah i mean whatever the date is the time yeah you play whatever date you selected to
register bro yeah you gotta fucking play it okay one day just because you sign up yeah just dm
camel and say hey bro i signed up for one of these make sure i win yeah one day one hour i'm sure
they'll rig it up yeah and sign up for the bearish one because i
think they're giving away some bearish uh yeah they are yeah they are um kenny uh all right
let's let's jump into it um the uh pump on shit yesterday yep that fucking kind of shook things
up and then gate took down the website and then like it was a lot a lot of shit happened yesterday
a little bit more for the motherfuckers that weren't
paying attention what is the pump
on shit that you speak of pump
on pre-sale
it was announced I think it's going live
what Saturday Kenny yeah I believe
and they're looking for 600 million
dollars to raise yeah which
is which is insane
and I seen I seenales post today where he was
comparing it to other side you know which i don't think so i don't necessarily know about that but
this is what i do know you know they're angel rounder private investments you say they're
raising a billion dollars that means and they're doing 600 public 400 mil is to private, VCs, probably stuff like that.
I'm curious to know what the vesting schedule is.
I don't think there's any information out on it.
But if they get an unlock, yeah, I'm just curious when the unlocks happen, how does it happen?
Look, we already saw it affect meme coins over the entire across the board.
A bit of a sell-off
when the news came out for the 600 mil
public raise. People were
selling coins to get ready
for this event.
It's probably going to fill up
relatively, I don't
think super, super fast, but relatively
quickly. 600 mil is a lot to raise, but
I think there's a lot of people that
are going to want to jump in on this.
Me personally, I'm probably going to stay away just because I don't know what the vesting schedule is or whatnot.
But it's probably going to do well.
I don't know.
Some people are saying it's just another extraction from the PumpFun team.
People are trying to figure out, is there a flywheel for this?
Are they going to be doing buyback and burns,
kind of like what Bonk does?
Or let's Bonk.Fun for, you know, the Bonk ecosystem.
Nobody really knows.
I need a little bit more clarity before I make my decision.
But, yeah, it's going down this weekend.
Yeah.
I, like, I've seen a lot of people saying they were gonna just do it
and send in whatever in the hell they can i think they actually oversubscribed for it
i think there's gonna be more than 600 million raised well they're raising a billion i think
you know no they're right they're raising it like four bill i thought it was 600 million
i think they're raising a billion dollars for a $4 billion valuation.
Let me go to a whale's tweet.
But yeah, it's a lot of fucking money, though.
Because I've seen somebody say that yesterday or last month,
there was only like $175 million in total volume on chain anyways.
chain anyways, you know, on meme coins.
You know, on meme coins.
You know, the other question is, you know, what type of, are pump fund users going to
get an airdrop?
Is it going to be a day one airdrop?
Is there going to be a vested schedule?
A lot of people, you know, debating on what direction that's going to go in, if they're
even going to get an airdrop at all.
I think there will be an airdrop if you've used pump fund before.
I think it'll be tiered on like the volume that you've
done but the reality is a lot of people don't even use pump fund like the website they did the
majority of their volume on trading bots through like you know the terminals like if you if you use
axiom you know you can go to the pulse which will show you all the you know new tickers coming up
on pump fund a lot of people use third party-party trading bots to interact with PumpFun.
So how does it know whether or not you're doing –
is it only volume for people that use the PumpFun actual site
or is it going to be using it through Axiom or BullX?
So I have a lot of questions about if know if there is airdrop how do they
determine who gets what if you're buying you know pre-migrated coins through axiom and opposed to
pump fun are you going to get docked for that you know so a lot of questions i think it's probably
going to be tiered though on how much volume you've done the crazy part is you know if it's
based on volume or based on like coin launches if you've
launched coins like the cereal ruggers who are out here are gonna cook bro 30 40 50 000 coins
are probably going to be the people who get the biggest airdrops you know if it's based on
something like that so just a lot of questions around it that i don't know the answers to so
i'm curious to see how it all how it all plays out yeah and they
they um what if you just created like one coin and you end up making like 10 g's off of it
because you just you actually created a coin on the platform you know and they like just
capped the numbers like if you created you know a different possibility you know there might be
different windows i'm just i'm hoping uh for a
miracle there because i i think i may have created what like five coins total on pump fun some of
them we've done live on the space so um yeah it'll be interesting to see pete what's up bro
i don't want to change subjects so let me know when i can change subjects uh yeah what do you
want to talk about i i need an explanation here so i'm just now
learning what executive order 6102 did in 1933 obviously i knew they were like hey we need to
get off the gold standard but i'm reading about how they went about doing it and they
gave everybody who didn't want to give their gold up imprisonment or hefty fucking fines in 1933 of
several thousands of dollars which is obviously an absurd amount of money what's stopping them from doing that with
with the corn as well because like technically technically the not not actual i mean bitcoin
uh the because like the gold was technically self-custody like these people had gold in
their homes they'll never be able to do that with big and it's a different time
they come knocking on your door and saying give us all your bitcoin or face imprisonment
you don't think that's just no it's i think there'll be a civil uprising and people start
shooting federal agents that's what i think will happen enough i guess this was in 1933
yeah the motherfuckers had fucking musket loaders and shit.
Now you walk to somebody's house
saying, give me whatever.
Chances are they have a fully automatic
assault rifle. Well, no, the problem is
so much of it is decentralized.
How can they prove
who owns what you own?
If it's all tied to...
If AI does become prevalent enough, they'll be able to find our ledgers tied to Coinbase, tied to... If AI does become prevalent enough,
they'll be able to find our ledgers tied to Coinbase,
tied to old wallets that we forgot.
They'll be able to find whatever they want.
Yeah.
Whether it happens...
Because there's a trail regardless.
There's always a trail.
Yeah, but the SEC just dropped that appeal for Tornado Cash.
So it seems like it's like full crime season now.
For sure.
I'm talking in like 10 years.
I'm not talking tomorrow.
Yeah.
I remember listening.
What's stopping them from doing it twice?
I remember listening to someone who was like part of the Tornado Cash team a long time ago in a space.
who was like part of the tornado cash team a long time ago in a space.
And they said,
it does not matter with whatever they build to try and stop tornado cash.
We're already 10 steps ahead,
building other products that will,
that will,
they won't be able to keep up with,
you know,
talking about the government.
So like,
I don't know.
It's going to be interesting.
They bought it at $20 and 67, 67 cents I don't know. It's going to be interesting. They bought it at $20.67 per troy ounce.
They cooked, bro.
Yeah.
They, like, what is that, 150X in, like, obviously a long time.
But, you know, they went in with size.
Like, they went in with massive size.
Yeah.
Well, now it's all gone.
Like, they quickly quit talking about the
fucking federal reserve uh audit or the the the fort knox audit yeah they were they were like oh
we can't do that because it's not there exactly um yeah we don't know where it went but it went
somewhere some boat somewhere in the congo fucking yeah yeah exactly it's. It's sitting down in Hitler's bunker.
Crazy to think about.
Holy fuck. I'm going to take a while
and guess he got us on the politics.
Yeah, he started...
No, no, I'm talking about them
stealing the gold, dude.
He started talking about the government
taking gold back in the 30s
and what would
stop them from doing that now
i was blown away i figured you were busy because you didn't come off mute
uh what would stop them from doing that with bitcoin now uh learning about it is learning
about this executive order 6102 like that shit was kind of fucked up yeah it was a little violent
they got violent in people's homes there's several cases where like
people got their ass beat for not giving gold up yeah but i mean the government's just like
founders uh they can do whatever the fuck they want you know fair enough it was nearly 100 years
ago i don't think tactics that flew back then would fly today you know what i'm saying there's
just you'd be surprised what fucking people will let the government get away with under the right condition yeah i mean like look what happened with covid i
cucked myself to the government i was like i'm gonna get this vaccine
yo i heard new york was the worst it was crazy my cousin yeah whatever uh your future wife needs
to get pregnant i'll sell you my scene all right dude sounds good sounds good an idiot sounds good i wouldn't even go to i
wouldn't even go to um new york when i because i was i was still moving military families and it
was the best time ever because there was no traffic no traffic yeah but they were like oh we need you
to go to jersey we need you to go here go there and i was like there's like no no oh i see christ um yeah so like but i wouldn't even take orders up
there because the the rules were so strict with what we had to do when we would when we would i
know i've seen that when we would enter jersey so what would you do if the government came to your
door like federal agents came to your door and said, give me your Bitcoin or go to prison.
I don't think...
I mean, why would they do that?
Well, they did it with gold in the 30s.
So what makes you think they're not going to do it again?
That's a little bit more avoidable, though, right?
Like, this is a digital asset.
Like, consider this, right?
I have, like, family, like, in-laws in El Salvador now right so like as soon as there's like
As soon as there's even a change in law and the government's gonna go door-to-door
I'm just gonna fucking literally shit my fucking Bitcoin overseas to a fucking to
Prison man is still go to prison. Yeah, that's
I don't know people would you do I would I would I
It's hard to think about, man.
It's really hard to put yourself in that situation
because it's like, well, I don't want to go to fucking jail.
I do have a second passport, but if I flee,
I'm definitely going to jail because my second passport
has U.S. embassies at it, you know?
This is why being a part of an organized militia
is very important, isn't it, Pete?
I feel like you're just telling me you don't have any Bitcoin.
No, no, no.
Social security numbers tied to sexes. Unless you've been on the decks your entire life and never bought crypto and just like got it somewhere off the internet it's not like somehow tied to
your name at all which is very very hard to do and super inconvenient there's a trace bro there's a
trace how many people do you how many people do you think buried their gold instead of just giving it to them bro people are still finding it every day people yeah exactly find
it in walls they find it fucking just digging up their yard putting a garden so it it definitely
happens uh wheels what's up bro yeah i'll shut up sorry space space is pretty boring is what we're
talking about god damn dude my bad no i mean he pete pete pete goes like off the rails sometimes no
go ahead 40s they're knocking on doors for other things right so you know who knows uh
maybe not in this country but in others so anything can happen i guess
i just say it i just say it i think they'll do it in china they'll do it in china first
it i just say it i think they'll do it in china they'll do it in china first um they'll take one
child and all your bitcoin uh cheese i do sorry oh go ahead please i was just gonna say um if you
invest in a tge you don't get your money back that's it yeah i spoke to my attorney uh there is no refund go fuck yourself um that's
exactly what it is and that's the next topic i wanted to talk on but go ahead wheels uh what
were you gonna say i was coming i i had a yeah morning i jumped on and uh you know that's been
prevalent on my on my feet so i was asking you guys to spoken about that sounds like yeah no we
haven't yet kenny shared the tweet yesterday in the back channels.
And, you know, I would have never told the motherfucker you're getting a refund in the first place.
Sorry, fuck off.
Yeah, that's the one mistake he made.
Yeah.
But other than that, it's not going to affect the price of the token.
The token's going to launch where the token launches.
I think there's too much money invested with getting exchange listings and all these things that they put together.
This one tweet, even though it has, what, 300,000 views?
254,000 views?
This isn't enough to move the fucking wheel.
Do you think these exchanges are going to be like,
oh, we're not going to list Arcade because he told somebody to go fuck themselves?
That should have been his response from the very first message was, no, sorry, go fuck yourself.
You invested into this and that's the risk you take.
I have friends that there's gaming brands that shut down and they put 20, 30, $50,000
in and their money's gone.
Like it's the risk you fucking take.
Their money was gone before that brand shut down.
Look, this is the reality of it.
If you send your money to a stranger on the internet,
even if it's a doxed stranger on the internet, dude,
if you let someone hold your money that you're not going to see every fucking day
and that you can't threaten with physical violence, your money's gone.
That's just it.
Maybe it'll work out the way you hope it does, but it might not.
So you better not give people more money than you're going to care about.
Yeah, exactly.
So like, and when you read through all these messages,
like some of it seems to be missing because like he briefly,
you can see where Amar was trying to get the guy some OTC
deals done with other people that wanted to buy into the token uh and it seemed like you know he
couldn't get it to work through um I don't think Amar was ignoring the guy trust me i talked to amara a lot and that motherfucker is hard to track down
and pin down like very very difficult like i almost got a job with revolving games and it
took me probably four months just to be able to get to the point of like no we're not going to
hire for that position when it started in the beginning.
So he was very, very difficult to track down because the guy's always traveling.
He's obviously working and trying to make Revolving Games the biggest brand that he can.
So I have no problem with what happened here.
I see Amar tried helping.
It didn't work out.
Yeah, he said, I'll get you your refund. And then at the end of the day amar was like you know what fuck this and i think there's
i think there's a lot more to this there's other parts of the the story i'm not going to talk about
on on spaces uh but yeah plotens. The plot doesn't thicken.
It's just, you know, there's two sides.
People acting like that, like that tweet right there that we're talking about right now is exactly why a lot of crypto Twitter motherfuckers don't get opportunities offered to them.
Because nobody can fucking act right, dude.
Like nobody can manage their own risk.
You know, nobody knows what their risk tolerance is.
Everybody fucking wants to cry when they fucking don't get a bajillion fucking
X in the, in the span of like two months, you know,
I think the problem is go behind the scenes to raise money and they don't come.
This is why your favorite founder didn't come to you and offer you angel
angel round. Cause they know you're a dumb bitch.
I think the problem is if you're going to make an investment,
you can't ask for your money back.
Like that just to me is crazy.
Like if I buy something and the value goes down, I can't be like, well, you know what?
I want my money back.
It was a bad decision.
Like if you made the decision to invest in something, you know, you got, you make the investment.
You can't ask for your money back because you're not happy with the timeline or anything like that.
Like, dude, you made the investment.
Like, be a man.
Fucking, you know, like, you decided to send that much money.
You should, you know, deal with the, you know, outcome of it and not ask for your money back.
That's just my personal take.
If I was going to say anything on the other side of this whole argument, would say you know sometimes these founders don't do themselves any favors uh by putting things in a text format that
are almost certainly going to be screenshotted and posted all over the place so you know
yeah dude some founders are kind of their own worst enemy when it comes to like pr
but you know it is a lot of that though is also the problem is is a lot of these
founders give too much access that's another problem and they they omar shouldn't even have
been involved in this conversation at all like if i was an employee for omar i would have been like
sending motherfuckers my way like you always you always say, Kyle, you're like,
you tell Amar. I think you told Amar
and Shan. You're like, fucking pay me.
Yeah, I'll fucking.
Yeah, instead of arguing with these fucking people on the timeline,
dude, literally just like, DM
me the link. Like, I will be your retard
on the timeline. You can't be the retard.
I need you to be the founder
that's brilliant and flawless.
I'm the crypto Twitter retard, and I'm happy to fulfill that role no but you ever see dom and joe doing that
did you ever see dom and joe doing that yeah bro dom stepped the fuck away because all these
assholes were up his shit like dom like yeah of course the thing is if you put money into an ipo
and it takes a year to two years for it to launch, you know, for it to like
actually launch on the stock market. Like you can't six months, six months in be like, Hey,
y'all are taking too long. I want my money back. Like that's just not going to happen. That doesn't
happen in traditional finance. But for some reason in crypto, people think like, Oh, well,
I'm not happy. I, I, I want my money. Like, dude, that's not how it works. Also, in traditional finance, you're waiting a lot longer for a return.
Exactly.
Dude, my cousin invested like 30 or $40,000
into some Ripple company
because he's a big XRP head
that was supposed to IPO like two years ago.
It still hasn't IPO'd and he's still waiting.
You know, like he can't ask for his fucking money back.
Once you sign the check, it's gone. It's out of your hands. You can't ask for your fucking money back that you once you sign the check it's it's gone it's out
of your hands you can't ask for your money back you know i'll add too though i mean dom and joe
you don't see this on time because they did bend the knee to kicks right so they i mean they there
is precedence for them giving refund for a piece of yeah i don't know why they did that personally
i guess they just didn't want to fight on the timeline but that again that But again, that's the problem with this crypto Twitter bubble that we're in.
People think that if you fight on the streets, you're going to get some shit to go your way.
Dude, it's just, I don't know.
I think that's why sometimes crypto or Twitter, crypto Twitter in particular, but crypto is not seen as seriously as other traditional finance stuff
you know because uh the people in it bro i mean it's just fucking ridiculous dude who asked for
their money back it's just i don't know how many followers does kicks have like 30k something like
that i think what do you mean under i think right yeah 100k yeah i need 100 000 followers just to
get fucking paid not to fundud god damn it well and i
will say lucky right his followers he was on the uh you know same as as jesus and myself he those
followers are from rg yeah exactly the same thing with lucky yeah lucky got lucky got put on the
quest board and that's where it ended up happening um so yeah i don't uh yeah yeah i i think the guys um i think the guy's a
fucking idiot for putting this on the timeline um and yeah so he'll a martian sue him honestly
it's especially stupid now when we're like a day i mean that was what two days away from tg like
dude if you wanted to cry about a conversation from six months ago, the time to do it was like five months ago, not two days before your money needs to like fucking work out.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's crazy.
That's the other thing.
Like, why the hell would you fund a project that you invested $100,000 into?
Like, two days before TG?
Like, explain the purpose of that.
So you can affect
the value of your money.
People are
dumb, bro.
I stepped away.
What was the part about kicks that y'all talked about?
Because I got somebody texting me right now
fucking saying something about it.
Yeah, we don't need to go back to it.
Will said the boys bent the knee.
Yeah. Oh, you're't need to go back to it. Will said the boys bent the knee.
Oh, you're talking about for the AP collective when
was tweeting shit about Somo.
Is that what you were talking about,
Will? Yeah, Will's was trying to get paid too, dude.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, Chase.
I know for a fact
he wasn't paid.
He was offered to get paid, but he was given something else.
And that came straight from Mickey because I spoke to Mickey about it.
He should just be happy he didn't invest in Beboot.
Then Beboot would have just locked up his token.
I think this guy is scared that TGE is around the corner, right?
And he doesn't expect to get that 100K back after TGE.
And so that's why he's doing it now.
And I don't, I think he expects the TGE not to go well based off of,
I think, what was the one that Treeverse that just came out there with their token?
That's not doing well.
And I mean, gaming is just not doing well as a whole.
So it seems like it's just out of fear.
And he's trying to do it as a last ditch effort at this point.
So careful, wheels.
You're going to summon job.
Fuck there. He's Jonas here fuck oh yeah well i've seen jonah's jonah quote tweeted this yesterday
uh and he was talking about it um you know saying that he i think he said he didn't know the
the context behind it or the where the fuck was it um let me get those fucking tweets i'm reading it correctly
uh really important to read no idea what is true here this is why i'm not buying gaming tokens for
now uh revolving games definitely needs to figure this out and if it's false the needs to state it
um so well i think the temperature around gaming stuff, you know, 14 months ago, which was when the raise happened, this was fresh off the portal success.
You know, a portal was primarily a, you know, a bridge for gaming tokens and whatnot.
That was super successful.
You know, people were looking to kind of, you know, invest in early, you know, seed rounds of, you know of stuff like revolving.
The temperature in Web3 gaming was different 14 months ago.
It's gotten a lot, in my opinion, more bearish
just because nothing really has been all that successful
over the past 14 months outside of off the grid.
So yeah, I just think early 2024, mid mid 2024 there was still a lot of optimism around
web3 gaming i think there still is personally but the overall sentiment has seemed to shift
you know more towards the negative side and opposed to like the positive yeah yeah it's uh
pretty interesting i mean we're gonna find out tomorrow, bro. Um, you know, uh, whales market is, has it like underperforming pretty, like, I don't like the price of it.
Uh, especially for, uh, you know, buying into angel it's at a double zero three, three, two
on whale market right now. So either that's one hell of a buy or you know i i don't know this is gonna
be fucking interesting well market i mean dude you know that stuff yeah i don't i don't put too
much weight into what the price on whale market is because typically numbers never add up when tg
happens one way or the other. I think it
launches at two and a half to
three and a half cent
is where I think it goes at.
That may be high.
That's what? 350 mil
market
cap.
But that's where I think it goes.
We'll see.
We'll see what the fuck happens.
It looks like it's at 9 a.m. tomorrow.
So if you are going to be claiming anything,
doing anything like that,
make sure you have ETH on Arbitrum.
That way you can go claim
and you have no delays
and no bullshit there.
But based off the exchange tweets I've seen,
it's 9 a.m.
is what I'm seeing on it so far.
So, yeah.
So it'll be interesting.
Wheels, where do you think it opens up at?
I wouldn't even want to guess, right?
I mean, after this, I don't even know what sentiment's like.
You've got Grail responding to it.
I mean, who knows?
But what did Grail say?
I didn't see his response.
He got a long thread on it, just saying they're pretty much both idiots for letting this happen and get to this
point yeah um but grail's heavily invested in the rg he is yeah he definitely is that's why i felt
yeah and he's not gonna go shit on his own bag so i'm sure he's not happy about it either though
it's just a bad look right you got a lot of big accounts um engaging with it and um it is not it's not it's not foolish but for the tg it's it's also
not the first time that amara's been a little what would you say maybe over the top of the
timeline like i don't know i like amara we talk to him a lot he's a good guy but again it's like
you gotta fucking gotta keep optics in in in mind when you're a founder.
Yeah, but at the end of the day, guys, it doesn't matter.
The price is still going to launch where the price was going to launch.
Like, is it going to, how fast is it going to drop?
That's where this could hurt.
So if you are looking to sell, I would say fucking be prepared.
Luckily, we have Pete here who has 15 years of TA experience.
All he needs is like fucking two data points.
What are we talking about?
What asset?
Shit.
My friend Peter, he needs two one-minute candles.
And then he can tell you where the chart's going.
I'm telling you right now.
Yeah, I'll tell you something.
Bitcoin's going up.
Genuine undeads.
You know, the dildo NFTs that Kenny likes definitely are going down.
Bitcoin's going up, though. kenny you'll be all right and then um yeah oh to be fair my in my my investment in fart coin is substantially larger than my investment in gbc hell yeah dude
yeah um kenny so yesterday you don't like my ta no it was pretty shitty you uh yeah uh pretty
shitty creeps are gone more than tinny um but no 40 000 floor brother that's pretty good yeah i
know it's yeah it's so we're we're talking like way they're going to a million dollars at JPEG, the I believe seed phrase. Hell yeah.
There you go.
Kenny, did you see Addicted yesterday?
No, what's that?
How the fuck did you miss that?
Solana actually quote tweeted this.
It's a new platform
that is coming.
Their pin tweet is
every meme coin
game ends the the same bots win
real players get wrecked social 5.0 is the solution uh the biggest ever simulation game
is coming to solana so basically if you would have if you would have tried signing up during round one yesterday um i think when i signed up there was like 7 000 people
ahead of me uh now it shows 76 000 uh it doesn't even let you like sign in or connect your ex
anymore uh but it's it's a drug dealing simulating simulation game on solana and i don't know what the fuck it's gonna do uh but it's it's pretty interesting
uh i shared a tweet at the top wait did you say a drug dealing simulation it's a drug dealing
simulation game coming to coming to solana something i fucking trained for yeah so they announced 13 hours ago round one is officially closed 76,014 dealers joined in seven
hours uh congrats if you got in missed it wait for round two to drop what happens next will blow
your mind and i only seen it because solana actually re like quote posted it. So yeah. So essentially you're like a drug dealer in the game.
Sounds like GTA.
Yeah,
I don't know.
So make sure you guys are following this account and we'll see what,
we'll see what happens.
Yeah.
Meteora quote posted it as well.
The biggest ever simulation game is coming to Solana powered by Meteora, quote, posted it as well. The biggest ever simulation game is coming to Solana,
powered by Meteora.
And then Solana had did,
that's what I seen there is 21 hours ago.
They call it addicted for a reason.
Game drops soon.
Wait list open.
So, and it seems like some type of social fire shit.
So, whoever's gonna, gonna oh Jonah's requesting sorry Jonah
um yeah so I don't know it's uh Jonah do you know anything about this addicted
the same people who made it didn't really make a good one on base so I'm not eh we'll see they they made the infected game on base which was kind of a
mess so oh okay they're that's the same team okay so maybe they learned a lot of lessons jonah and
now they're back to rectify their uh sketchy history maybe maybe i mean it's i like the idea
it's a good idea if they don't do it someone will do it and
make a fuck ton of money yeah it's not a bad idea it makes sense like you know schedule one
and web two did this you know why not yeah um also go download my fucking wallet and go make
some videos and get money um i doubt the fuck i never went back to it yesterday i downloaded the extension and i never did sign up the rest of the way uh but i
do have the splute extension um but it was literally right at the same time frame i want
to get this all set up so that way when the live streaming component is in there's people already
set up oh building companies fucking sucks i should have just stayed being a kol uh well i mean you know just don't uh make sure you make sure you uh make sure you consult with
your attorney before you do anything wow but i'm referencing amara's message to homeboy
uh i spoke to my attorney no no refund. Go fuck yourself.
Dude's a fucking moron for posting
that. I don't care if he comes at me. What a
fucking idiot for writing that in text.
Who, Amar? Yeah, what a
fucking retard.
Well,
I like Amar. Look, I can
understand his feelings.
I want to tell people to fuck
off every day that i work with
you know won't say who but i you know i can't tell my investors to go fuck off
yeah work that way yeah you can't you can't take someone's money and then spit in their face it
just it doesn't work that way you have to figure it out and if you can't be mature about it then
you're a fucking moron and you should never raise money jonah well let me ask you a question if you invest
in an angel round or a pre-sale raise should you have the right to ask for your money back
if it takes longer than expected it there's no such thing of what you should or shouldn't do
it's all based on legal agreements and if the guy has no legal contract he has no recourse he's an idiot okay so you know it's but it's not you know it's just like you gain nothing
he could just say it in a professional legal way it's like we're currently building
we have no contract about refunds this is an investment the investment has risk
that's what you signed up for.
Right. And that's a professional way of saying go fuck yourself.
Right.
I agree with that.
Amar, look, we've known him for
a while now. He can become a bit
unhinged. I mean, we've seen him
have
similar meltdowns before. I don't know
if you'd call it a meltdown, but I mean,
yeah, i think there
is probably a it's probably not a good good look to be unprofessional on the timeline in that i
i couldn't imagine the stress that founders are under like i well it's insane stress but at the
same time like take a boxing class i don't know go do some karate or have someone else handle it or do
what pete says which is go do some yoga or hot yoga like you know yeah whatever you gotta do like
first off i've had people make the same requests for for things i've done in the past and i'm just
like you know all i say is let me refer to our legal and then I let legal handle it. That's why legal exists
Lawyers exist as fall people for looking bad
so like
One classic thing you could do as a business owner they say all my lawyers advising I don't do that
Right, and now the lawyer looks like an asshole and it's not you even though you still you know
It's probably still think you're a dick, but you've now abstract like extracted yourself away from this like conversation right yeah yeah it's pretty uh
pretty wild but we'll see what happens i mean like i don't think am i buying a single asset
after reading that no i'm not touching that thing for but i but people are still here to make money and they can do that
on 20 000 other things that's the yeah but 90 90 of the people are still going to either buy or short
or do whatever on the token uh i mean i don't know i think that if you like first off they're
already fucked even if there was everything nice just because of the fact that pump fund is doing
a pre-sale right as they're doing this shit that's gonna suck liquidity out regardless like i would delay this
regardless of anything just because like it's a black hole event like you don't want to be around
a black hole event you want to wait for the dust to settle i don't care yeah but like next week you
could end up being something else they They've already delayed several times.
There's a difference between a random launch and pump fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, random things launch all the time.
Not a $4 billion token that basically made Solana what it is today.
Yeah, I mean, we're going to see what happens.
Are you an investor, Jonah?
Of what? Pump fun? Yeah. I mean, we're going to see what happens. Are you an investor, Jonah? Of what? Pump fun?
Yeah.
I wish.
No, I'm saying are you going to try and get in on this?
Oh, maybe.
I mean, I actually think that there's so much fun on it that it's probably worth a buy
just because of the fact they have so many such cash reserves.
They have probably a good mergers and acquisitions team
that they'll start folding in
once they do this like i don't know but i don't need to pre-sell buy anything i mean that's the
beauty of crypto is everything's liquid market i can just buy things on market when the time comes
i just i just don't know like if you go from four billion to eight billion it's not a big
eight billion it's not a big multiple regardless so why not just wait for me to i'll just wait to
multiple regardless so why not just wait for me to i'll just wait to buy it on liquid
buy it on liquid um kenny did you see open c acquired rally yeah yeah i didn't even fucking
see chris uh did it man i mean they've been building that app for what going on three four
years now maybe longer um yeah pretty big pickup um and yeah congratulations to chris matter and that
whole team i mean those guys have been building you know product for years now and finally got
picked up by openc that's a that's a big acquisition for them you know especially with
all the hype around openc right now so uh happy for those guys they deserve it yeah um yeah no it
is it's uh pretty big did uh cairo come up here because i'm about to pick this uh my mom just
texted me i got to get over to the hospital and help with something um but i'm gonna do this
giveaway real quick i know cairo came up here to probably talk about a gun moving to solana or yeah give me the give the giveaway
please thank you um oh okay all right um yeah what uh what's your take on that before please
run off to the hospital to save his mother's life everybody's liking it and you're talking
to tell me how cute my dog is good thing is we can't hear you. So, yeah.
Yeah, we couldn't hear you.
Can you guys see Amir?
I'm again in the countryside.
I have terrible Wi-Fi.
Yeah, we got you.
Loud and clear.
Why is this bullish for Gunn to go to Solana?
Like, why are they?
They're not leaving Avalanche, are they?
Yes.
They're just creating a pair on Solana? They're always like internally, externally.
What is really happening? what is the marketing bullshit the marketing bullshit is they say they go multi-chain
everything stays the same so they're just expanding but in reality like nothing is is
moving forward for them on avex so they are just moving to salami that's it
okay i'm back i'm back in the quiet what i said everybody go tell me how cute my dog is i pinned
it to the top anyway yeah i'm trying to see if this person i picked as the winner is in the space
and i don't see this person in the space and you had to be back and you had to be in here
probably kicked him off stage earlier and now he doesn't want to fucking participate anymore, huh? Yeah, and I'm also going to verify.
And I'm also going to, no, I don't give a fuck.
I'm also, I talked to my lawyer, no refund.
You don't give a fuck.
Yeah, this person's not in the space right now.
All right, run it back.
Yeah, they're fucked.
We're going to run it back again.
Pick a winner.
Hopefully don't pick some fucking...
Let's see if this genie person is in the fucking space.
That's racist, dude.
Don't see this motherfucker in the space either.
I'm literally about to just
fucking... I'm literally just
about to have somebody pick a number.
You missed a cube shill
earlier, by the way.
No, you didn't.
It was phenomenal.
It was phenomenal, bro.
Fuck you, Jesus.
Just pick me, dude.
Yes. This fucking person's not in the space either. Alright. Hey, Pete, you remember when
you said genuine undead earlier and then you went
Yeah. Sorry, buddy.
No genuine undeads for you.
You're gonna make it, dude. You've got
knock amigos, brother.
Damn, dude.
Why does he keep picking the
same fucking two people? Get more angry, dude. Why does he keep picking the same fucking two people?
Get more angry, Jesus.
This is dumb. I gotta get to the fucking hospital.
I ain't get to after this shit.
Sorry. Fuck. Just end it then.
Can you give it to me?
I want one, please.
Is the founder of Rebelance in here?
Because he was picked.
Just literally give it to Juice and call it a day.
Juice is gonna floor this
and go buy some shitty ass Solana main car. Fuck. Give it to Juice and call it a day. Juice is going to floor this and go buy some shitty ass Solana
Mean.
That's what fucking Juice is going to do.
Give it a Randy Juice because of his PFP.
Who?
Randy in the audience.
Randy? Yeah, there's a Randy down there
with a lightning bolt in front of his name.
Oh. Very good PFP.
Bacon, egg, and cheese?
Where's this guy at? Hold on. Oh oh he's in the room there we go let's see bacon egg and cheese uh fucking ad wreck guy rough riders let's go and he's a
he's a revelant uh holder i think as well uh and he's tweeting about the google coin um i dig it he reposted the space
i dig it uh yeah let me uh fucking bacon egg and cheese here hey before we shut down what's up uh
skull something something underscore something something skull brother you gotta use normal
font i don't know what the fuck yo how are you guys doing good brother how you doing good how
you doing oh good man sorry i silenced myself
because you were speaking hey uh you looking for the founder of rebel ants no no i was i i was but
he wasn't in here i yeah i mean i know him i've talked to him he probably rocked out of spaces
that's my last spaces as well man yeah yeah no it's all good um yeah i i he doesn't need a fucking genuine undead he's got enough of
them anyways uh i think yeah so yeah not not worried about it um but yeah real quick before
so i got fake an egg and cheese i'm like it's getting shut down what i wanted to ask pete if
he went to the uh new nftnyc open sea uh no he didn't no no he did not he doesn't go to
don't fucking cry on Trump's ankles
moon high
somebody had to sell bagels to the open sea
people alright come on brother
why are you obsessed with me loving Trump
you know we can talk about other things besides
that I think the truth is you love Trump
I got 17,000
XP Kyle
I hope you deport your fucking girlfriend Pete I gotta go check by here in a minute bye everybody
