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Reality Check: XEET Alpha & Abstract News
Recorded: Feb. 16, 2026 Duration: 1:41:40Space Recording
Short Summary
The latest discussions in the crypto community reveal significant developments, including the launch of the Live Frame API aimed at enhancing streamer monetization through AI integration, a new creator card system promising substantial earnings, and ongoing concerns about user engagement on the abstract platform. As the industry evolves, the role of AI in content creation and marketing is becoming increasingly prominent, signaling a shift in how creators interact with their audiences.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. As I want feelin', I'm at the top of my game, you know what the deal is
Somebody order up me some motherfuckin' millers
So fresh, so clean, how come this is so fuckin' neat?
Yeah! I need some motherfucking meals. So fresh, so clean, how come this is so fucking neat? Yeah.
Feeling good, feeling good at the liquor store.
Spend my money on these bottles,
bout to take them all.
But I'm bout to get into them, never know.
So many plans, so many plans.
I got several.
Hey Tim, check out cash.
Hey, well, check all of that.
Check feeling good, check.
I already knew it. Check, I'm about to check, get into it.
Check, bad, bad boy, bad, bad boy.
Are you mad, mad boy?
Bad, bad young man, no.
He ready to have your plans canceled.
Are you rolling with me?
It's so dangerous in this city.
Your mom wouldn't like me.
Your papa or your uncle either.
Eat his pieces, I'm pieces.
I'm such a waz, can we whack it?
Have been treated for diseases.
It's not my bad that I have it.
Yo, God damn.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Time, time, time, time.
What the fuck?
I can't bring myself a bottle.
Come with me if you want to get on the news.
I don't like this motherfucking film.
Check the boom, check the boom. I can't bring myself to follow the rules.
Come with me if you want to get on the news.
I told I don't like this motherfucking film.
I can't bring myself to follow the rules. I'm a young doogie how's it?
Young poogie is king of paddle horn I'm getting stupid
Can't possibly be better looking
Ooh ooh babe What you do to me must be some good food babe King of Pato Horn, I'm getting stupid. Can't possibly be better looking. Ooh, baby.
What you do to me must be some good voodoo, baby.
I'm so noble, you look just like a photo, baby.
I can't say no, it's the problem, it's just fatal, baby.
Because you a time bomb, baby.
Woo!
Hey, Tim, check out cash.
Check eight with them.
Check all of that.
Check feeling good.
Check, I already knew it.
Check, I'm about to check.
Get into it.
Check, bad, bad boy, bad, bad boy.
Are you mad, mad boy?
Bad, bad young man, no.
Be ready to have your plans canceled.
That's how I'm feeling.
I'm at the top of my game, you know what the deal is.
Somebody order with me some motherfucking illness.
So fresh, so clean, how come this is so fucking easy?
Yeah!
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. so fucking easy. Yeah. Hey. Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
What the fuck?
Hey, I can't bring myself to Vaggo.
Uh, bro, I'm so fucking pissed.
Uh, can't get nothing working.
Can't get nothing going.
What's not working, bro?
What's not working? This fucking abstract stream, bro. This this abstract stream at least you got the music today yeah yeah we uh we we we one for two right yeah
we'll see if kenny power shows up uh we'll let the room fill up was gonna let music keep playing
but i was like you know what fuck this i'm over here refreshing every tab i actually
just accidentally refreshed the tab oh shit we're live oh let's go pray jesus praise jesus uh yeah
um anyways we are live on x abstracting kick um Go visit anywhere you want.
Repost the space.
Drop any comments, questions that you might have.
And we will get to them.
What time is it? 1106.
We got one more minute for Kenny to show up.
Now, he did have a death in the funeral.
Or a death in the family.
A death in the funeral?
Boy, that's unfortunate.
God damn. but there was
the funeral is today but uh what do you think he's skyping in i mean that's what i'm wondering
yeah is he like on video chat with like are they like fucking that's why i don't know uh so we'll
see uh the great return of kenny powers um that's right either way yeah so uh
hold on one second oh all right i had to call he's got himself a cough button over there dude
that's yeah joe rogan level podcasting going on let's go yeah hey now um yeah so uh let's get to it
I mean a lot of stuff happened
what is there to get to
there's a lot of stuff to get to
we're going to sit around and talk about AI like every other
space the last three weeks
no no no no no we're not going to talk about
AI we are going to
talk about one of the things that
let me
look who showed up
Kenny fucking Powers there we go now he's
backing at it um yeah one of the things that uh i had seen over the weekend we're gonna get right
to this um let me get going here oh look see yeah she's coming on stage anyways so um uh
where's kenny oh we got i forgot we have to actually send kenny like an
invite uh to come on stage he just won't come on fucking stage well to be fair a lot of times
if i come on stay if i hit the request button and you accept me and then you send me the co-host
invite it rugs me when i accept the co-host invite. Oh, okay. So I often sit down there too.
Okay.
All right.
Kenny Powers, GM, sir.
How we doing?
Yo, what's up, boys?
Not a lot.
Didn't know if you were going to be like Zoom,
Zooming with your, like,
like a fucking Google Meet call with your brother in them.
Today.
Yeah, they're already there.
No, I was just running a couple minutes late, my bad.
All good in the hood. Yeah mean uh you could i'm gonna
kind of we're gonna i'm gonna keep the space going we'll see how it's flowing but uh here later on
right after 12 i'm gonna kind of go oh you're gonna rug us again no i'm not gonna rug us last
week was like i left the house normally when i leave why normally when you leave wi-fi you get
the you get the like reconnect into
the space yeah usually i'll see the host is having connection issues yeah and i didn't get that so i
was like i thought i was still good i had to go get my daughter from school on friday of a half day
and uh it never did it and then all of a sudden kyle was right in the middle of talking and
fucking just like fucking power gone um and i don't remember what i was saying but it was
probably nonsense high likelihood it was nonsense yeah probably wasn't much a shit but uh either way
no we're gonna go uh it's nice week this week so we're gonna go play some golf today um and
that tea time is at 12 30 so um gotta get get there, but I'm only like 10 minutes from the club.
So, uh, but it should still be a, uh, a good time.
Uh, but yeah, Kenny, you doing good though.
Otherwise, sorry for your loss there.
Oh, it's all good, man.
Yeah, no, I'm good.
I'm good.
Appreciate it.
All right.
Cool.
Uh, Kyle, I'm doing well, I'm just saying kyle you wouldn't even let me say 10
minutes longer than this motherfucking kenny powers but i know but i always ask him how he's
doing and i never ask you how you're doing because usually we have spoken i'm gonna i'm in a good
mood but to be honest it's been a little rough around here dude i got uh my poor puppy has gone
into her first heat cycle and she is uh extremely frustrated with the necessity of
wearing a diaper right now and i also managed to catch a cold the fucking day i went back to work
when we were talking on that space i like had a little bit of a sinus thing going on i just got
sicker the whole way through the weekend worked all weekend long um and yeah now i'm back but
we're good we're doing good dude we're good all right we're good uh one of the things
that i did want to get talked to and i've vented this to the abstract team i've talked to raj i've
talked to gmb i've talked to several people uh about this and uh joxy welcome on stage you're
not the first person that has left abstract streaming uh one due to uh lack of any support from the fucking team at all.
And I brought this up.
It, you know, when you kind of,
so they don't ever really, I don't think.
Hold on now.
I don't want to hear you frame this too much because I didn't exactly understand.
So I just, I kind of want to just hear it from Joxie,
like exactly what the issue was.
I just don't want there to be too much framing.
I just want to hear it from the source.
Are you just mad because I said you're a stupid fucking idiot?
It's in your name.
I haven't seen that.
It's going to take a lot more than that to make me mad.
You get a follow for that one right there.
Fucking hell, bro.
Yeah.
If you wanted to make me mad, you'd have to launch an NFT project, rugged, and then become
the CEO of my favorite IP.
But anyway.
No, I would tell you that I died right in the middle of Mint.
So you wouldn't even be able to talk to me afterwards.
Oh, that's a classic.
Yeah, that's a classic.
And then, yeah.
Then two weeks later, you come back and claim the fees.
I have risen from the dead, everybody.
That wasn't me.
That was my cousin.
My cousin, man. Thank you for coming today, though, by the way, Jaxie.
I know you said it's 8 a.m. for you in the DMs there.
I know you're West Coast time zone.
You might have gotten up just for us.
That makes me feel special.
I did.
I did wake up just for you guys.
I don't wake up at this time.
Well, I do to take my kid to school, but it's Chinese New Year's.
He has the day off
he's not here so i could have slept in but i i said i was gonna come so i'm here i think he has
the day off because it's president's day and not chinese new year i don't know yeah but he had last
monday off too and i'm like i'll take it well that hold on now as americans there's nothing we love
more than appropriating other cultures okay i'm to go ahead and chalk this up to Chinese New Year.
Okay.
All right.
Whatever.
And then also I'm from California, and we love to appropriate everything.
Yeah, every fucking thing.
I can agree with that 100%.
Okay, so I guess we should get into my post that I made that I honestly didn't realize was going to do that well.
I thought I was going to just make the post 10 people were going to like it
and ignore my post.
Like most people do to my post because it's mostly,
all she does is post twerking shit.
But when I actually post stuff like that,
people are like,
wait a minute,
is she being serious?
Why is she mad?
Yeah.
Most people are afraid to comment or speak up or speak out or do anything
like that and uh for any context i actually i don't have the actual post up there i have the
one that i quoted from it uh so she said i will no longer be streaming on abstract chain it's clear
they only want to promote and support people who shill the shitty extractor games on their platform instead of
actually supporting streamers using their product don't worry once a week i'll tell them to still
blow me um really good appropriating that cock that was good that was really yeah uh but like
and i get it i get it like but the abstract, the abstract account,
nor does the abstract,
you know, ecosystem account
really promote anyone.
But you do see team members
that are engaging more
with certain creators.
They are, you know,
they sometimes will repost
and some of those spaces
you can't even get on the stage.
Hold on now,
because again, we're framing
this a lot and when i replied to when i replied to our friend joxy here and said you know genuine
question whatever whatever i got a quote i got a a link to the monsters.fun rug yeah response that's
why i want to hear it from her exactly what the issue was. Because I don't know if it's streaming or a rug or that they promoted the rug or what.
Yeah.
Didn't they promote Monsters.fun?
Well, it's kind of like all of the above.
If you kind of really think about it.
It's like I reached my limit of why should I give a fuck when they clearly don't give a fuck about their fellow streamers.
Real streamers.
Lodi's actually down there. and she's a perfect example.
She was doing really good streams back in, I think it was October, face painting.
Not once was she freaking highlighted for the amazing face painting that she was doing.
And she was doing it almost like every single day.
She was thinking of new things to face paint.
And these were really elaborate.
Amazing face painting things.
And she did not want to get featured.
You're talking about like the makeup transfer things.
Like where they'll make themselves.
Okay.
I didn't know if she was like bringing in fucking little kids and putting like unicorns on their forehead.
Like she was making herself look like a freaking scary pumpkin i remember i saw some of
these amazing and i was just like wow this is so great and i would think like abstract be like look
at the amazing creators we have we have a girl who's like painting her face on stream that didn't
happen yeah so when street i
so i was you know we've been talking about abstract since day one i was on it on test net
uh streamed on day one the original goal was to stream the apps and things that are on the platform
so whether it was games uh no matter what it was talk about things on abstract for abstract streaming. And unfortunately you're limited in that capacity.
So the only thing that's kind of entertaining is people doing fucking gambling
stuff.
But I agree that if you're going to have a streaming platform and you want big
creators, and that's what I said,
besides paying these huge creators to come on abstract,
you're not going to have anybody over
there unless you're promoting and building up the creators that are amplifying your brand or trying
to bring people to abstract and it's a big miss and i've talked to raj about like i said i've
talked to several team members about it and then on top of that even streaming on abstract you don't
get fucking shit for xp like you don't get it and for XP. Like, you don't get it.
Luca said,
there's going to be a millionaire
on abstract streaming. Bullshit.
Bro,
I specifically remember that cheese.
Everybody does.
The problem is, there's no stickiness
over there. Like, people
don't go on to abstract.
Our senior stickiness corresponding
to any powers there.
He's left many women sticky.
They framed it as
this streaming platform
that, in all honesty,
has been not successful
at all.
You go over there...
At the beginning, you used to have some streams
with 50 60 maybe 100 people you know when when xp was still like top priority right and everybody
was trying to and it was very token gated in the sense of like not everybody could stream you had
to fill out an application to become a streamer so it was a select few amount of people that were
streaming there's just no sticking it there There's no, there's no real,
like,
I don't know,
man.
I just feel like.
So right now the top streamer has 20 people,
then 11,
then five,
and then me with three.
Okay.
So it seems like I'm going to,
I'm going to probably be a man on an Island here a little bit today because
I'm going to take the other side of this whole debate.
And that's fine.
That's,
that's perfectly fine.
First of all, I would say
I have never been promoted as a streamer either. And I don't expect to be, I don't come to a
platform. I don't, and I don't mean this to be disrespectful to anybody, but I don't come to a
platform thinking that like, I'm big enough with my, you know, less than 10K followers to be like, you guys need to promote me.
Right?
Like, I come to a platform like X, like Abstract, like anything that I've interacted with,
because I'm interested in the platform, not to garner the benefit of what the,
like my expectations of the team to promote me.
So, you know, that's the first thing I would say.
The second thing I would say is that I, if I'm being honest,
I think almost everything to do with Abstract
has been put on the back burner.
And I know this is a shitty excuse that gets made
for every fucking Web3 team.
But with the markets being the way that they are,
I think everything
has kind of been put on the back burner on Simmer in the hopes that things kind of turn around,
right? Like it would be a terrible time to TGE Abstract when they're going to start spending
marketing money, right? Because they've only got so much money in their treasury. I don't know how
much that number is,
but that number equates to a certain amount of runway.
And they're not going to start burning up that runway
until they feel like things are better suited
for a potential TGE in the near future.
Does anybody have any disagreements with anything I just said?
Yeah, but what you're saying is also that they don't care about substance.
They don't care about the real community behind their chain who are supporting it,
who aren't just going to always spend $10 every week on whatever game is on the portal
so that I could potentially get some type of recognition from mom or dad on their chain.
At the end of the day, a streamer, when you come on to somewhere,
when you're doing your thing, your time is money.
So if you're coming onto a portal that is providing nothing,
not even a slice of marketing for you, just leave.
I want to say this. Especially when it's been told to you that this is a of marketing for you, just leave. I won't say this.
Especially when it's been told to you that this is a great way for you.
As a streamer, when they come to you personally,
an abstract team member personally says,
this is a great way, we love you,
we want your uniqueness on our platform,
please come, and then nothing happens.
Right.
Now look, I will say this.
Tell me how I should feel then.
One of the fundamental
differences between me and I think a lot of people in web 3 is that like I'm not doing anything for
any reason other than entertain like I'm just here for the lols I genuinely like I don't I have no
expectations I have a job like an IRL job right I would I would love to get to the point where one
day I could like make money in this space
regularly or whatever but in the meanwhile you know it's just like all the buttons i click it's
just for fun i'm not doing anything with any real expectations and and and also i'll say this because
everybody says abstracts all gambling i literally barely like the most gambling i ever did was
playing blinko and i only did that because i love the Barrett team. Don't you dare attack Blinko!
I'm not attacking Blinko. I had a lot of fun.
I had a lot of fun playing Blinko and during the Blinko Z tournament.
I genuinely did, and if I hadn't been having fun, I wouldn't have done it, right?
But I click buttons on Abstract constantly, and I'm not gambling, right?
I've got some on-chain heroes. I do their fishing stuff.
Maze of Gains, I guess you could maybe call it gambling,
but I think it's more skill-based,
and the barrier to entry is so low.
The cost for a key is so low.
It is.
And it's like, look, I've never played a video game
that I didn't pay for either, right?
I played Fortnite for years.
I paid a subscription to get V-Bucks
to be able to have,
you know, optimize my experience there. I do expect to spend some amount of money,
right? If I'm going to garner entertainment from something, from a product, right? So like,
I don't know. I do Gigaverse. I don't spend any money on that. I got bought some ROMs
because I wanted to, but you don't even have to buy that. You literally don't even have to buy the NFTs to play gigaverse. Um, I've been playing,
I've been playing toll inverse, right? Which you can spend money on, or you can just literally
play the game that is fun. Like I've played that style of game on mobile before. I genuinely,
I've really enjoyed that style of game. I've been playing the shit out of that. And I just
play it on practice mode and I still get XP even though I'm not spending money on it.
So, and there's other examples of other things, too.
Yes, there are a lot of gambling apps on Abstract.
There's only 12.
This is also Web3, though.
A lot of people are here to gamble, guys.
Yeah.
But there's plenty of buttons to click that aren't involved in gambling.
Yeah, but Kyle, you name, name like two things that are non like
gambling style related no so I'd hate more than two but I can go ahead look right here is okay
polar pair up you don't have to play you don't have to spend any money on that at all myriad
you can literally sign in every day claim points and do prediction markets a boring finance is
completely it's it's defy it doesn't have anything to do with gambling
but there's way more in my opinion and i could be wrong because i really don't go on there much
anymore but like aren't there more of the gotcha style games more than anything else isn't that
like predominantly what's on abstract okay so if we're just gonna go down the featured apps right
would it be fair to just go down the rank order of featured apps? Yes. You know what?
Let's just make a tier system because I know how much everyone likes using AI right now
to make little tiers of S, you know, B and everything of stuff and say, how much has
this, you know, taken from the economy?
And is it a gambling game?
Let's play that game.
I'm joking.
Well, at the end of the day, people are fucking adults.
If I'm going to hold abstract accountable for what they're promoting
i think it's fair to look at the discovery page right and the top apps on the discovery page
gotcha pull is the only one that is a gambling app again myriad you can totally just do with points
moody madness i don't it's like a racing game.
I've never played it, but it looks like a lot of fun.
Maze of Gains, I already talked about.
Polar Pair Up, I already talked about.
Aborian Finance, I already talked about.
It's not even a game, it's DeFi.
Those are the spotlighted apps right now.
And then if you go to the Explore apps, these are up to us.
These are rank ordered by who's upvoting things.
And it starts with gigaverse already talked
about it it's not gambling maze of gains already talked about it it's not gambling moody madness
not gambling tollenverse not gambling myriad not gambling roach racing not gambling skill-based
you're literally like playing like it's like almost like training for perps markets polar pair up not gambling
DYLI not gambling Aborian Finance not gambling OpenSea well that's like give me that's that's
on-chain heroes not gambling I don't know what wheel is it probably is gambling Bitcoin I mean
it's not gambling it's kind of dead but it's not gambling. It's kind of dead, but it's not gambling.
Gotcha pool.
Okay, so out of the, like, what did I just name?
10, 11, 12 things?
Two of them are gambling.
That's all I'm saying.
All you gotta do is go to games of chance.
That's what they classify as gambling.
Yeah, but you're filtering for gambling then.
All I'm saying is out of the six spotlighted
apps one of his one of them is gambling and out of the rank ordered apps that people are engaging
with two out of the top like 15 i just named if you don't even want to see these you can go in
your settings and in all games of chance will be removed from the platform you don't even have to
see them i think there's enough stuff on here to talk about and stream,
but also stream other content at the same time.
So even if,
but back to the whole point of this conversation is not to dissect what the
fuck abstracts doing.
Cause I think they're doing a great job.
It's a,
it's the fact of what they're not doing and what they're not doing is
supporting the creators that have been here or that are
building or that are just coming in because when you see a post that has 21 000 impressions on it
and that post is talking about leaving your platform how lucanets or anyone else on this
platform has not said oh fuck what's going on here well no that's not i mean luke and that's didn't but
several several people with abstract badges are in those comments raj is there i get it i get gmb
is there you know there's and i and i get it like that got ignored yeah then gmb made a post
afterwards saying that don't worry abstract is not a streaming platform so if
you are not getting paid to
showcase one of their games on their portal
do not touch their product
that is what I read from that
I would have to read that post I don't know
that's what GMB said
basically
yeah it sounded like a
infuriated interpretation?
I'm a girl
Like when you're when your competition is twitch and fucking kick and even pump fun, which has been
Unsuccessful at streaming like their streaming platform. It was hot for fucking what two three weeks
And then like do people still go there and watch streams on PumpFun anymore?
It's a tough market to crack.
And I just don't think...
Abstract made it sound from day one like the streaming platform
was going to be wildly successful.
And in all honesty, it's been a fucking failure.
Well, no, they didn't make it sound like that.
Luca Nets fucking...
Said somebody's going to make a million dollars with it.
Yeah.
They said that,
that abstract streamers are going to eat.
The XP hasn't been relevant for it.
Like if,
if the streaming was that important,
it should have been,
it should have been up there.
Like,
like at a high level of XP,
especially the more streams you have.
Like I probably have over 300 streams on abstract already.
I'll agree with that.
They could give more XP to streamers.
As much as I'm playing devil's advocate here,
I'll agree with that.
Yeah.
So GMB said,
you first have to understand what abstract is.
Abstract is not a streaming platform.
Abstract gives streamers opportunities
and helps discoverability of apps on the portal.
If streaming was just to promote apps, people wouldn't watch it in the first place.
It's the job of the streamer to build and connect with an audience.
Abstract is still in its early phases, and the portal, like Luca has said, is bare bones for now.
Then he started talking about he never asked for anything, his streaming journey.
then he started talking about,
he never asked for anything,
his streaming journey,
provide value through many different ways to my viewers,
which made watching worthwhile for them.
You know,
is abstract,
is streaming on abstract?
Perfect.
but the abstract team has continuously listened and implemented feedback to
the portal.
It's the job of the creator to promote yourself.
so that was definitely directed right at you without quote
tweeting you but oh i know and i told him next time quote tweet me and then he dm'd me like i
wasn't trying to attack you and i'm like bull fucking shit yeah i mean okay and you know what
the all the part that gets me is he only streams abstract stuff so of course he gets promoted and
uplifted and he got what he got in abstract,
which is great for him. I've never said anything against that. I am an original streamer. I have
a, you know, audience on Twitch. I have people who subscribe to me over there. I can make an
audience. There's been many times that people have, my alarm. There's many times that people have my alarm. There's many times that people have told me
that they don't even see my stream
on abstract. And it shows
that I'm streaming. But for some reason,
I'm not getting shown to people.
You know, that's something weird that I've noticed
lately. It used to be
that they put the
streams in order of how many people are
viewing the streams. But here recently, people are viewing the streams but here recently
i've been seeing where people with more viewers are actually lower than people with less viewers
so that makes me wonder whatever you put in your category is from what i told so if you're have a
certain game that they want to promote that week that one is going to get pushed up more
than whatever streamer has more streams than you so again it shows that yes you will get
viewer variety people come and only watch you because they're only coming to the portal to
watch whatever game is being showcased everything i'm everything i'm seeing is right now i mean i'm
just click back and everything's in order of the amount of streamers i mean like right now i mean i'm just click back and everything's in order of the amount of streamers
i mean like right now i have three viewers there's a guy with no viewers on top of me and a guy with
two viewers on top of me here's the thing there's a guy with seven viewers behind me what's the
whole purpose well that's because he's not verified what's the whole purpose why do people
stream right typically people stream to monet, to build brand recognition for themselves.
Like, you know, you go on, you know, like even with PumpFun, like you could create a token, which you could earn creator fees from that token if people actually found your stream interesting, right?
So, like, there has to be some incentive for people to stream on Abstract.
And right now, there's zero incentive for anybody to go on to abstract.
Well, you still get XP.
But do you, though, geez, you've been saying for a while.
No, I have ran weeks where I did not do a single thing,
and I still got like 5,000 XP.
I did not put $1 on chain,
and I still got around 5,000 XP.
That's probably because you hold abstract assets.
Well, maybe, maybe, but I had very little assets at the time.
I don't think Jesus has any assets.
That was very little at the time.
My point is, you still get something for streaming.
It's not a fucking no.
But my point is, for them, if they want streaming to be more successful,
incentivize people to stream over there.
Well, look, hold on now.
Incentivizing people to stream is one half of the equation. The other half of the equation is incentivizing people, is garnering
some reason for people to watch. Part of the whole problem here, and this goes back to the point I
was making earlier, is that there's like less than 100 people even watching abstract streams right
now, right? Like that is not a big enough audience for
anybody to have a successful following on here streaming. So if you are streaming on here and
you want to be a successful streamer, I'm doing air quotes right now, you kind of have to be
streaming on multiple platforms and you're only really streaming on this one to get XP.
Now that's, hold on, that said, I do still think, back to what I was saying earlier, that there
will come a point where the markets have turned around, Lukanets is eyeing a TGE again, and
then suddenly they will start rolling out marketing money in the form of however they
intend to do it, whether it be targeted ads for people, whether it be paying some big
streamers to be on here to bring people to the platform to watch you know
just to just to increase the number of people that are even here to watch the streams and if
i was luca i would not be spending that money right now either yeah but well go ahead real
quick we'll count apart uh just to count there were more people watching streams at the beginning
there were more people trying to stream over beginning there were more people trying to stream
over there i remember rug radio used to stream over there captain and coffee used to stream
he still streams there who does captain still streams every morning uh rug radio left which
is wild because they have their own product they didn't just leave they got a deal with like kick
or something right they got like an exclusive they moved over to kick yeah they just moved
over to kick and they're just certified creators so i mean they they sent the email to
somebody and got the certification i could be wrong i thought i remembered someone saying they
were they got like a partnership deal with kick i could be wrong yeah yeah i'm not felt like there
were more people watching streams at the beginning you used to go in 100 the first month or two months
and there would be like multiple streams with like anywhere from 20 yeah
because lucas said they were going to tge and q4 last year so everybody was fomoing on the platform
i agree more we'll come back i just counted there's only 60 people watching all the streams
combined uh in in gmb is 100 correct in the point that you have to build your own fucking audience
and bring those people over.
And I've been in these streams where nobody's watched the whole fucking week.
It is what it is.
I don't care.
I'm still going to stream.
I'm still going to be active.
When people leave, I've seen people come and go and come back.
And, you know, I wish they would do stuff.
I said it in a post yesterday, XP boost for streamers, improved chat tools, tiered badges
for people that have been streaming for a long period of time.
And then streams promoted on the abstract ecosystem.
I think the abstract ecosystem page should be highlighting creators creators whether it's streamers thread writers
uh you know speculation whatever that there should be some community page for the abstract
uh chain that you know you can that you can um that will help grow creators and be like oh shit i didn't know this girl did make up
or i didn't know fucking joxy sits there and flips the camera off for an hour straight like
people don't know because they don't know what the fuck's going on so yeah no i did that uh well
it's just a guess um an educated guess yeah so you know and i i know there's there's people out there that are creating stuff theo
made uh theo made a thing where you can get all the the visuals for all the brands and
there's there's things there but like we need things with inside of the streaming uh platform
but uh speak of the devil himself gmb what is up gm gmb sorry i couldn't not say that
yo what's good everyone yo jesus how you doing man thanks for having me on the panel good
yeah man i want to dive in more on streaming because i i agree with you guys like i'm i'm
myself i'm not i'm not happy where streaming is right now and like i made a post today i saw i
saw josie's post and i um I was just like thinking I couldn't stop
thinking about streaming last night and I wrote a bunch of ideas down um but yeah with with
streaming on abstract I know there's a bunch of things that we can do on the abstract side and
I'm gonna talk with the team specifically because I'm not I'm not myself like I'll be honest I'm
not happy where where it's at like I saw blaze i was checking blaze streams out and i was like this looks pretty like i'm not gonna lie it looks cool and there's a lot
of things that we can you know learn on abstract so i i love the feedback and i think there's a lot
of things that abstract can do in general so i know i streaming's expensive man and we don't
know what the costs are to bring these tools in and do all this stuff and is abstract making enough money to even step up to that level yet like maybe not but at the
same time the rewards for dedicated streamers people that have been here since day one or
whether you joined yesterday if nobody's asking like hey you need to send me a thousand dollars
a day to stream on your platform.
It's like, fuck, at least give some support.
At least give a major boost in XP
because we are putting our face out there.
We are putting the time in to create content.
Whether you're talking about abstract or not,
you're still streaming your content on their platform
and talking about it every day.
So I think that should reflect back in some type of rewards.
You see, my whole thing is this is shit that I would do anyway, right?
I'm here to farm the XP or I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't, I guess that's not entirely true.
There are a few NFT ecosystems that I really enjoy.
So I would be on abstract anyway, but I'm only streaming.
You would, but if I wasn't streaming, you would have never started streaming on your own.
That's true.
And you would have never done it.
Yeah, that's true.
Because I fucking drug your ass over here.
Well, also, I, again, have a full-time job.
So, like, I can only stream on the days that I happen to be off and home, right?
Well, hookers have full-time jobs and
they still hook so like what is it well other my schedule's kind of uniquely up right like i i work
12-hour shifts half the week i switch halves of the week it would be very it would be it would
be impossible i'm not consistent right like i only stream with you half the time uh yeah but if i
wasn't if you weren't doing this yeah I would have never just started streaming on here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there's two points.
I think because we're all super busy, right?
It takes a lot of energy, time, focus to stream, right?
Like over the summer, I spent eight hours a day streaming.
And it takes a lot of time to do that.
Like a lot of time for viewers as well.
Like you guys are putting your hard earn,
like we're super busy nowadays.
So it has to make sense for both the streamer and the viewer.
And I think, you know,
there's a bunch of ideas floating around that.
I think we abstract has to do something.
And I,
my opinion is that they're waiting for the right time to do,
to do it.
But yeah.
That's what I keep saying too. And again and again i think and this is just me i like that everybody's pissed off and quitting because i'm not gonna get pissed off and
quit and so in my mind when the tge happens i will have gotten a bigger piece of the pie for
everybody that fucked off and quit didn't they at one point promote like clipping on abstract do they still do that or they were very early on
they were using whoop and they were doing some campaigns and things like that but i don't i
don't think they've brought anything back with whoop it i think whoop brought in like the wrong
type of audience from what i saw it just brings in a lot of you know spam like the wrong type of audience from what I saw. It just brings in a lot of, you know, spam and not the type of quality that we want.
And so what we're doing now is I'm talking with Deco and Solal.
We've been, you know, we have the eco affiliate badges and we've been trying to support creators through that avenue where, you know, I'm talking with Deco.
I'm like, hey, like we'll send messages to each other i'm like hey let's highlight this like stastic made a great
edit i was like hey let's let's support this and so we've been trying to support as many creators
as possible through that avenue because abstract eco i know you guys were saying like hey like
they should be supporting creators and they're pretty specific with what they want to i mean i can talk with them about
that of course but um they want to keep that for like ecosystem projects but and then our role is
basically to support creators with you know all the ecosystem affiliates but yeah well then i then
i think they should have a third which you know they already have fucking two X pages. Why not have a third?
Give it an affiliate badge.
And it's an abstract creator highlight.
And do like creators of the month.
Do fucking, do these different things that show support
to small, big creators.
It doesn't matter.
Like, even Eli took fucking, what, like a month and a half off?
He was saying it was for whatever else
but I know he just he's fucking got blown you know he was fucking streaming too much whatever
like he stepped away so um you know there are a lot of people that have came and gone and people
that I wish were still streaming there so I don't know and i think the content shouldn't matter you know
it as long as you're streaming and you're in you're producing content over there uh you're
obviously on abstract for a reason but i think in the short term they could still add you know
little things people like to get shit for free so even the badges like I was talking about, giving a big boost on XP.
Like, you have the different rewards rolls,
and it's like you could actually have one on there.
It's like a 10% boost just for, like,
somebody that's like a giga streamer.
If you reach 500 streams, you know, on abstract or 300,
throw a fucking random number out there,
and it gives you a 10% boost in XP. That'd be a clever way to way to do that maybe but that'd be too easy to gain in that specific well that's why i said it would it would
need to be like badges or something like that is there a world where because they made it so like
exclusive to become a streamer you know because like they have thousands of applicants at the beginning trying
to be streamers, right? Well, you just have to be gold tier now. Yeah, but only a select few
were able to stream initially. Do you think that may have hindered the amount of people trying to
come over there and stream initially? To be honest, I think they were stress testing the
platform at first. So they only wanted to bring on the biggest people and kind of build it from
there. I mean, that's just my opinion. I see a lot of, think about every TGE ever, right? The
websites are never able to handle the stress of the traffic that they get initially. So like,
I don't know, but I know that streaming is expensive and it requires a lot of compute.
And so like, i just imagine if
they just opened the floodgates day one the site would have just crashed right so like they had to
kind of let in a few see how it went build from there i mean that's just my assumption and that's
pure assumption yeah great here's a here's an opinion from nftoy, which is a hilarious name. It's a quote tweet of Joxy's post.
It says, actually, abstract chain isn't a, he does quotes, proper streaming platform just yet.
Think of it as an add-on for now where influencers can hang out with their friends, play some games, and get some practice.
It makes total sense that the platform would promote its own games.
Why would we push someone playing Dota 2 or other games?
But hey, no one's banning it.
There are no strict rules.
It's just a perk.
If you play games on the portal, you get some extra backing.
I don't even see where people are getting extra backing.
Like, what do we mean by extra backing?
I guess the promoted games maybe are people playing the promoted games
are a little higher or something for the tags that they put on their screen about the extra backing gmb and marcel are the best
example they're the poster boys of abstract they just post about abstract this is not an attack on
you guys i'm like this is what i'm saying like what people will see is like all they do is post
about abstract so that's how I'll get you know abstract
to pay attention to me like I was saying earlier Lodi was doing really good stuff and she never
got highlighted as a creator no I don't disagree with that you know like one of the things that
and I don't want to be super bitter about it but to be honest i might be a little bit bitter about it but you know jesus and
i have been talking about abstract from the very beginning and nonetheless there neither one of us
has gotten a giga chad roll and i nothing against anybody who has gotten giga chad rolls but a lot
of them are like a couple hundred follower accounts that like hung out in the discord or
whatever and that's fine i'm
dude i don't want to take rewards away no don't say it's fine speak your fucking truth we're all
here to speak our fucking truth because you are right i've heard people say about that big attract
thing the point i'm trying to get to is i'm not saying that anybody's reward should be taken away, right? But it does feel like if you're not strictly hanging out in the abstract circle jerk groups,
that you don't get the reward of a role like that.
And if I'm being honest, hold on, hold on, hold on.
If I'm being honest, I think that the people who go outside of that initial circle jerk abstract group probably
do more to onboard people all the people that come to an abstract titled space or whatever or
hang out in the discord or whatever those people are already maxis they're already on there they're
already clicking the buttons listen i go to spaces where I get made fun of for being on Abstract
and I fight back in
audiences with a couple of hundred people.
Everybody calm the fuck down!
Everybody calm down.
We can't understand
you on a good day.
So calm the fuck down.
To Kyle's point though, if anybody
in this fucking deserves
gigatad, it's my two co-hosts because these
motherfuckers talk about abstract so fucking much dude the hours i've spent listening to these guys
talk about abstract in our space is unbelievable you wouldn't even be able to believe how many
hours they've talked about and the fact that y'all haven't gotten gigatad blows my why aren't you
bullish on abstract kenny powers i'm just saying we spent a lot of time talking about Abstract.
No, hold on, let's get to it.
Kenny, why are you forgetting me?
I'm also here every fucking day talking about Abstract.
Dejani, quit copying us.
Just, Kenny, why aren't you bullish on Abstract?
This isn't a thread that you can copy and repost, Dejani.
The amount of effort you guys have put into, like,
helping brand recognition for Abstract,
we talk about it every fucking day for
hours well and by the way not just here like like i said i literally like dude i go to alpha
co space every day and get fucking trolled but nonetheless there's like a couple hundred people
in the audience and i know that i've onboarded people that would have never even touched
a hundred percent rug i threatened to say a slur the other day i'll do it right now don't test me
i'm going to bed in space every morning i i 100 agree with you guys and that's why like i wanted
to join the space and i think it for me like why i post about abstract a lot is because the
engagement's a lot better like when you post outside but i was talking with diala like me
and diala were talking and we actually want to see more of that like we want like she was like hey you should go outside
of abstract and join other spaces and meet other people because being inside one echo chamber we're
not gonna you know grow at all it makes zero sense to do that so i absolutely that's why i've
been praising jesus like last night i saw you doing the space and I was like, oh, I'm 100% joining because I've been seeing you killing it.
And I'm going to talk with the team again.
Like, hey, we need to figure out a way to support these creators that, you know, if you look at their feed, you might not know that they're abstract, like huge on abstract.
But when you dive deeper, they're like, okay, these guys are real supporters of the chain.
So I think we need to do a better job.
100%. they're like okay these guys are real supporters of the chain so i think when you need to do a better job 100 you guys have been killing it and i i gotta give props to you for hanging in there because i well look and i appreciate you gmb and look it it takes guys like you to hold the abstract
specific spaces too to keep that abstract present so i'm not saying one thing is better than the
other i'm just saying like both things are important is all i'm saying gmb if their timeline isn't flooded with abstract they're not doing enough
hey bro hey no by the way when you said praising jesus i felt like we were trying to start a
cult here we can do that maybe juggle and this and this was the problem when i would sit there
every single day and tweet nothing but creep this, creep that, creeps, creeps, creeps, creeps.
You're just fucking, you're blowing
loads over everybody's face.
It's like, it's
the same people.
Where do I get the load blown
in my face?
You know what I have learned?
If you stay a few days
quiet, then you load
more.
Here's a lesson. Here's our senior semen retention. If you stay a few days quiet, then you load more. Oh, okay.
Here's a lesson.
Here's our senior semen retention correspondent to Johnny here today.
And it's a good point.
So that's why, like, yeah, we may not show up in, you know,
on a lot of abstract timelines, but I followed and have known most of the Abstract team for a long time.
Well over four years with several of them.
But whether we've gotten GigaChat or we've gotten recognition or we've done whatever, it doesn't matter.
We've still streamed every day when the streaming fucking works for me.
We've still talked about Abstract.
We've lost listeners to this space because we talk about abstract so much
and motherfuckers don't want to hear it well also because we stopped just talking about creeps too
like there was a lot of this space start this space started as a like a creeps community hangout
and like the second we started talking about anything else there are some people that just
weren't interested in that and a lot of the creeps community is just fucked off organically
because you know just bear market type stuff you know things community shrink when when the vibes are down and that's just the
way it is bro if anybody wants the alpha you need to be watching the stream because i'm about to show
you a pair of shoes that will change your life let's see these let's see them motherfucking
pulled out the mcdonald's orthopedics the black shoes they wear hold on these shoes are life-changing what the hell can you what are
they bro are those are those crocs with vibram soles what the fuck are those dude these are
called cane k-a-n-e go to cane.com i'm not i am not getting paid for this by the way
now he's trying to though no. No, I'm not.
But I'm telling you, they are like an athletic version of Crocs.
Bro, these things, I went, I lifted weights, ran on the treadmill.
I didn't run too fat for that.
It was the hardest pivot I've ever heard in a conversation. What the hell does that mean?
Well, because I'm getting ready to go play some golf.
So I'm like getting ready and hosting the space.
Fucking doing my thing.
No way, you're going with that. What? that what going with that to play golf bro oh you're fucking right
you know that this crocs have been just built for uh people in jails uh no they they can't
afford people in trailer parks too johnny okay exactly but anyways anyways, yeah, it's, it was a,
it was a good pivot though. Right. Look, that was a good
convo, but let's
some respect on the Johnny. That motherfucker has a creator
car. What the fuck? Yes, he
does. Yeah. So let's get into that a little bit of
that. Last night in the fucking
the, like
beaver. Was that, was it, what was the guy's name?
Whatever man. Yeah, that was
bird. No, no, no. Not whatever man space.
I've been there.
I've been there.
Burton's a good kid.
Hey, GMB, thanks for coming, man.
You're welcome here anytime, bro.
I look forward to chatting with you on other spaces too, man.
I think you're doing a great job, bro.
No, no, no cap.
I think, you know, you're doing a great job repping, repping for abstract.
So appreciate you.
I really appreciate it.
Thanks for having me on.
You guys are amazing. I love talking with you guys and if you guys want to chat outside
of this my dms are always open um if anyone wants to stream on abstract and you guys want to start
like streaming just let me know um i want to start you know i can help you guys out with that if you
want um but yeah thanks for having me on you guys are are killing it. I'm on board Joxie back to Abstract.
Oh, good luck.
Hell hath no fury like that.
I am a Latina.
Good luck.
That's all right.
All right.
The other thing.
Yeah.
I've got a lot of Latina experience.
I know what she's talking about right now.
I know, but I had some good jokes to go with, but I'm not doing that.
Anyways, I got a job to keep.
But yeah, yesterday, Scott said-
I got in trouble with my Latina last night because I was doing dishes in her way.
So there you go.
Anyway.
That's funny.
Scotty said yesterday in the space, the one that- it was the most dysfunctional fucking retarded space ever.
But he did say that if you hold creator cards,
you would get 80% of the royalties for all of the secondary sales of the
cards that sell of yours, which is pretty fucking good.
Especially if your cards start gaining a lot of value and people start
finding you,
that's going to be pretty massive,
for,
you know,
creators of all sizes,
I think.
but we need more information and I'm hoping they fucking post that
today.
It's certainly a big opportunity.
Now it is incumbent on you as the creator to make your
cards relevant right like yeah you're you need it's up to you to put a you know put a put value
on that card but yeah the fact that you are incentivized to do so in such a such a big way
i mean that's very unique to a lot of these other platforms in the past. So that's pretty cool. Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
when you,
when you kind of do the math,
you have,
you know,
and I said this in captain space this morning,
if you have a $500 sale on a card,
Kenny,
the,
the royalties on the creator cards is 10%.
Okay.
So you get 80% of that 10%.
So you're getting 40 bucks just for someone buying and trading your card,
which is pretty good if you get them sold that high.
But if your squad or you as a creator are doing good enough in Z,
then, you know, you could possibly end up end up you know getting a fuck ton of money
uh off of these creator cards i don't know the exact amount of east that the fantasy top cards
had but pro like going back and doing some of the numbers there if you could get 10 percent
man it's pretty good on top of whatever the other rewards are then you know he was talking about
squads and how much of the rewards are split and but even though you hold a card of a of a
creator doesn't mean you're automatically just going to get given money you have to actually
click on chain uh transactions so what do you mean on-chain transactions?
It's a tough conversation, to be honest,
because a lot of it is very nebulous still.
We don't have a lot of information.
I have two tweets pinned up at the top.
One is from Amelios.
If you are not following Amelios,
the guy's smart,
whether he's real or AI or whatever,
he has very good posts.
And he has an image on this post where he says,
also highly important, these cards are not just for clout.
To be the best supporter for someone,
you will have to click on chain when the time comes,
not just interact on CT.
How that works with Z and these creator cards,
I don't know because Scotty and Pons were saying last night in this space
that this is not fantasy top at all.
Just because there's cards, it's not fantasy top.
Totally different mechanics.
Totally different stuff.
Then Scotty said in a post last night, I'm going to sum this up pretty quick.
He said, squad is part of a tournament where X percentage of token is given out.
Say that equates to 250K to 500,000 token.
Squad gets first place and they get 50% of that token supply, 125 K to 250 K for first place.
And then it splits amongst them.
So it splits amongst the entire squad for that first place prize.
And the creator would make out both on the royalties and on the cards in
the squad performance.
Many more details to come as far as that gamification, though.
So he said there's a lot of other stuff that is happening.
He said also it's not necessarily true that you have a card,
you get a part of the split.
There needs to be meaningful action done within a squad,
and you need to opt in your attributions to that squad.
So there's some gamification in theory involved.
So reading that,
I think you're going to have to stake your squad
for the length of the tournament.
You're going to have to pick your fucking team.
Are you going to have to stake your squad,
or are you just going to have to like interact on a secondary platform like
again if Z makes it
to where you have to like upload your URL
from your tweet onto
Z they're not doing that
anyway he said there
in no way are they using it
what is the on chain part
I think I would think
they're voting for us like American
Idol guys what do you not understand
read between the lines
yeah there you go it's like yeah just like
fucking American Idol
you're gonna have it's almost like when
you go why would anybody vote for anyone
that isn't in their squad well then you
better start dancing shaking
your booty Kenny like your little
little lizard self depends on it you
have to make yourself seem unique as a creator.
Kenny won't even come on stream, but I'll make it wink.
Don't you worry.
Yeah, you won't.
Yeah.
Kyle will do anything for fucking more than $5.
That's true.
Yeah.
The other side of that is-
Almost anything.
Anything other than shut the fuck up, I'm willing to do.
Is it almost going to be like upvoting and down down voting on ethos or like doing something of that nature i i don't know it's it's really
that's what was pissing a lot of people off in that space yesterday is because they wouldn't
leak any alpha like scotty leaking the 80 percent is was big enough uh but yeah yesterday was a yesterday was a shit show in that space so
maybe the creators are gonna be able to like upload like a portfolio of like their stuff
and that's what people are voting on like eventually it's like they're voting on if
they like these people's content and then like it helped push them to get like certain like things because they
said it's going to reward us somehow to help connect with certain things as well yeah because
here's the thing this is how you stop the the botting and the sybil farming and all that shit
is because like people aren't going to go load money up and you waste money and gas and whatever to do on-chain transactions
by the tens of
thousands or hundreds of thousands.
So it doesn't really matter as far as
what your
it doesn't really matter about
your engagement. They're doing it
in some other way and how
I don't fucking know.
But hopefully we get an answer on that.
Dajani, what's up?
I always imagine Dejani as DJ Arnie.
I just want to be like, DJ Arnie.
Well, it's actually Johnny is what it's.
Yeah, but I like saying it as a fucked off ignorant American.
If the fucking D is silent, why do you just
not even put it in there?
Your point of maybe staking, because these
are showing up as NFTs, right?
Yeah, 100%. They are NFTs.
Maybe that is because I'm trying to think of
what is on-chain. Maybe if you
stake for the duration of a
tournament, maybe that creates a
supply shortage
on the actual creator cards, which could in theory pump the cards.
I don't know.
I also think if you've got like, say,
say I'm competing in multiple tournaments,
you may only be able to, like, if you have one of my cards,
you might have to pick which tournament you're rooting for me in,
or you might have to get more than one of my card.
Well, I know what I mean.
Yeah.
I know on on
like fantasy top like you could you you could only put your card in one tournament like because they
had different tier tournaments so like if you had 10 cards and your squad was five you can't put the
same card in two tournaments you would have to have two of that card if you want them to be in
two separate exactly yeah yeah and that's where we're gonna see that's where we're gonna see
the volume of the cards come into play um but yeah i mean there hasn't really been any sales
yet because nobody knows what the fuck i mean you can go buy creator cards right now for ten dollars
but like until we know what the well they're also all commons right and yeah and so like i wouldn't
go blowing my budget on some common cards
either because i who knows how the ratios of these cards will go across rarities what's up to johnny
you're back can you can you talk now oh finally bro there he is i hate x really oh calm down dude
you are about to get shadow banned into oblivion we love x here we all love eggs i always think on him every day that's right
bro um what i want to say yesterday i gave away uh 15 cards um 15 of someone else's card
hold on hold on to johnny kenny to give you some context this see he was in
somebody's telegram and the guy's like here i'm dropping links uh everybody go mint a card no
johnny goes and mints 80 of this guy's fucking cards you remember when you put uh what was it
you that put like some money for some starbucks and something for a bunch of people to get some coffees and one guy claimed all of it.
I used to tweet out.
I used to tweet out a Starbucks gift card and like the respectful thing to do is go get one coffee for yourself.
No, this one guy transferred like it was like $200.
He transferred all into his Starbucks account and and then i had to get him to
remove it off his starbucks account and get it put back on the card hey you know what i respect
an opportunist dude you do you do johnny i hope that was i hope that was your alt account that
got jesus is 200 too bro i was robin hood yesterday i took and i gave so that's true you did give back
yesterday i took and i gave so that's true you did give back yeah johnny took somebody else's
cards and then took all the engagement from that person on x no i didn't redistribution
no i haven't i haven't posted about it so i didn't do any giveaway i was in a space and i was
giving all the people from third world countries and everywhere cards.
So they also have some.
I thought that's just fair.
But I wanted to say to yesterday's space, that was ridiculous.
I mean, also Jonah, I love him, but she was yesterday on some ARK.
Oh, I gave $3,000, blah, blah, blah.
I never got $3,000.
I have 10 of this uh
this real agents i mean yeah because a lot a lot of us bought those nfts after that airdrop thinking
there would be you know some utility going forward i i remember walking in the hospital to go see my
mom and i jumped in a private chat and they were talking about this airdrop and i looked and
it was like 3700 bucks by the time i could claim it it was like right at like 3132 hundred and i
was like right on um so yeah but yeah i think i think once live frame gets going and everything
i i think you might see some more benefit for those real agents in the future i wouldn't rush
out and buy them but i'm'm going to keep holding mine.
Yeah, I will also not sell it.
I'm just saying it's not fair that he attacks everyone for nothing.
I mean, I don't know what art is.
He does it to get attention, bro.
Yeah, but bro, why?
I don't know.
He said he needs a new art.
Because it's fun.
Yep, it's not fun.
It's childish.
I mean, it's okay okay a few jokes and everything but at some point you think bro are you 14 oh you got blocked oh you got the maxing
blah blah blah bro uh you're 30 or how old he is come on grow up yeah well look i mean if it had just been imagine imagine jesus comes in and say uh to you
oh i frame mocked you oh i i uh i face mocked you oh i money mocked you i mean you're not gonna ever
hear me say anything in mog okay except for that one time like that's it i don't even know what he understand i mean not even kyle can do that he's retarded
and everything uh well it was it was it was pretty cringe i mean k money was up there and he said are
we having a mog off and he said it once and then jonah just like repeated jonah just yeah times
but look if it had just been jonah it wouldn't have been that big a deal but there was like
five schizos on stage all at the same time while poor Burden was trying to get relevant information out of fucking Pond.
That was bad, dude.
He was trying his best to keep it fucking civil.
I would have started kicking some of them guys.
Oh, yeah.
Especially, I would have kicked Scott Food, his shitty ass microphone.
He's up here bragging about what he's done and all these great things and oh i'm fucking on this panel and the government
this and yeah dude like congratulations you're a fucking token on a in a giant but he sounded
like he was working at a fucking jack-in-the-box he's like you couldn't fucking understand anything
he said fucking guy was shit uh fuck i yelled at him immediately as
soon as he interrupted me i just yelled at him i was like because your pawns is too nice like that's
one thing about pawns every single time someone interrupted pawns he just stopped talking and
like that he literally couldn't finish his sentence i know you were like the first time somebody
interrupted me i started fucking yelling at him yeah we know that about you kyle who's fucking
a bro little side note real quick. OpenC put a tweet
out. Join us March 30th for a
live event. Major
updates on what we've been building and where we're headed.
The next chapter of them. So anyone who thought
that we were going to get TGE in March?
No. We're getting an announcement of
something. TGE is supposed to be March
31st. They're doing this call on March
30th. Bet.
I'm just saying. want that we'll see
i'm not betting a damn thing yeah i'm with danny on this i'm i don't i don't have any
expectations whatsoever of a tg from open sea anytime soon uh but look that's again just
i mean what do you what do you do right like, do you keep your promise on a TGE date
and just watch your token,
your platform token just completely eat shit
due to the market?
Or do you, like, do you just grin and bear
the all-out assault from people
who just want to bitch on the timeline
and then wait for better conditions?
Kyle, regardless, OpenSea token
is most likely going to get cheated to fucking hell
day one depends what they do with it a lot of tokenomics if they have a lot of supply control
and they it depends it depends how they do it but yeah probably yeah probably most people are
going to sell 100 immediately 100 it's just a question of like how much of their overall token
will they put out i'm selling i'm telling you all. I'm cheating on every single one of you.
I sold Miami immediately.
I did too.
Remember the retards that got their Magic Game airdrop and then staked it?
Like, dude, what?
And then it ran.
Depending on how long you staked it, you might have got some benefit.
I don't know exactly what the optimal ratio there was.
They've been rewarding people there.
I don't know if it was worth it. The token They've been rewarding people there. I don't know if it was worth it.
The token's like 15 cents, bro.
I know, I know.
But people have been getting paid
some big amounts of fucking token
just for having it at stake.
Yeah, but look, also, I'll say this.
If you're Magic Eden
and everybody's trying to farm OpenSea,
do you try to compete right now
or do you just lay back,
let everything go to shit, let OpenSea do its thing, and then after OpenSea, do you try to compete right now, or do you just lay back, let everything go to shit,
let OpenSea do its thing,
and then after OpenSea's TG,
you start running another campaign of whatever.
You know, interesting shit over there, right?
Well, they tried to do that with Blast.
I mean, they tried to do it with the Blur token, right?
They tried to...
Season 2 was relatively successful after Season 1,
but that's because so many people ate so well off of season one,
the season one airdrop.
And then it was diminishing returns.
Season two got really shitty.
Season two was still pretty decent,
but once Machi was like lost,
like what was it like 18 million or 11 million?
And every,
all these big whales were just shitting on it. After that, it was
done. Season three was absolute
fucking ass.
Yeah, but that's also the
problem. These big whales come in and
they have to play with
hundreds of millions. I mean, bro, come on.
Chill.
Hey, not everybody's going to win, so
fucking get it. Sell it. Be gone.
Go buy some more nfts do whatever
you want um what else did we miss oh the fucking did did anybody watch the logan paul thing last
night no i was watching it it was pretty stuff on the timeline what was going on i i didn't really
pay that much so they were doing so he was auctioning off apparently the number one pokemon
card in the world a lot of people are saying this thing is actually only a seven or an eight grade,
but it was regraded again as a 10 PSA.
And it was like the illustrator.
It was like the number one best card in the world.
And it was sold, I think, for like 16.5 million.
It's the number one the largest ever
trading card no matter the sport
Pokemon anything ever in history
but at the
same time they were doing box breaks
they were doing two boxes they
were breaking from the
version like the first
iteration of Pokemon
and fucking Ray from 9gag
flew his whole goddamn team in
from Hong Kong, and this dude bought
like 12 packs. Mind you, they're 40,000
a pack. At the same time,
Ray was actually bidding
on the fucking
Illustrator.
Oh my god. Jeez, I don't
want to kick you in the nuts right now, but I'm gonna.
These fucking Del Mundo's are at .09
right now. Oh, I know.
I've seen them.
They actually hit 0.1.
Oh, my God.
They're at 0.0949.
Yeah, they were actually at 0.1.
I had whitelist and everything.
I've been in the server since early days.
I own seven of them, Johnny.
Fucking idiot.
I own seven of them.
Congrats, bro.
What do you mean congrats?
I own 11.
I own, yeah, you have seven.
No, I had. I bought them him for two dollars sold him for ten
dollars jesus is the number one fucking jeet on the planet earth dude this guy runs circles around
indians dude yeah it uh it's pretty wild but yeah either way so yeah last night it was pretty cool
because every time that they would open a pack of cards, Logan Paul had their like read.
It was like a fucking shout out.
And 9gag was just sitting there pumping out all their content and their brands.
And they had fucking Logan Paul sitting there opening packs with a potato in front of them.
They shouted out meme land a bunch.
Just all the different things they're doing.
So, but yeah, it uh but yeah it was still it
was still pretty fun to watch uh watching them rip some of the packs open live uh you know there
was three hundred thousand dollar cards found fifty thousand dollar cards found so for the
most part most of those guys were underwater that bought the packs but other than that it was still
uh still pretty good but yeah so it's making a lot of a lot of
noise because the problem was is logan paul had an nft collection that was out prior or coin
that gave people equity shares of the pokemon oh of that card but then he rugged everyone
made like 2.6 million off the project and now sells the Pokemon without giving anything back to the people of that community.
So...
Bro, that's bullshit.
That's fucking bullshit.
Well, guess what?
It's fucking...
That's what happens when you got money.
What was the Logan Paul thing that he...
He didn't refund people for one of the things.
But there was multiple projects that he was involved in
and I can't remember which one it was.
I think that was...
Was it the Zootopia thing?
I think that was Jake Paul.
Oh, you're right.
No, wait. No, I thought it was Logan Paul.
Whatever, dude. I don't keep up with the Paul brothers,
to be honest, so I'm poorly
informed on this subject.
Was it Zootopia?
Is that the one I'm...
It was Zoo.
It was Zoo, I think.
It was just Zoo. I think that's the one I'm... It was Zoo. It was Zoo, I think. Zoo? It was just Zoo.
Okay.
I think that's the one that people actually ultimately got a refund for,
but that was like years later or something.
Oh, cheese went silent.
This is the part where I got to go check the stream.
And he gone.
He gone.
I'm the only one on stream.
Okay.
Well, now might be a good time.
That's ridiculous. Have you seen the guy
who bought that? That's the son of
Anthony Sarmucci,
the investor.
He is also big in
Bitcoin and everything.
So how would you feel as father when your
son comes in and says,
Papa, I want to buy Pikachu
for $16 million.
It's a Pokemon card.
You called it a Pikachu.
That's amazing.
That was fun.
That's a great Pikachu.
That's the new expansion on the expansion on the expansion of Pokemon.
That's the Pikachu's cousin, Pikachu.
I thought you were saying Picasso.
Yeah, the price he paid for it, you would really think it's Picasso.
I watched that entire thing with Andrew and Frisk.
I think Ray actually made money on that event because he pulled a $300,000 card.
Yeah, I
didn't even watch it, but
hey, GG's to anybody that's making money
on Pokemon cards. Imagine the guys in the 80s
that were collecting baseball cards, thinking
that they were going to get rich, and now they're watching a bunch of
autistic kids make fucking money off of made-up
cartoon animals instead.
The funny thing is, in the
middle of that, the guy who runs
the auction is like, hey, and if you subscribe now, you can win this baseball card box.
And I was like, all right, all right, back to Pikachu.
Nobody gives a fuck about the sports card.
They're like, look at this Honus Wagner.
And they're like, that's cool, bro.
But have you seen my Gastly?
Oh, look at that.
Good old captain sent me one of his cards.
What a G.
Jonah, you're not going to do any Z stuff, are you?
I don't think they want me to.
I don't know why they wouldn't, dude.
I mean, you know, you got pulling the space.
You may be a fudder, but you got pulling the space.
I don't even, well, I don't know.
And to be honest, I'm so far removed from this,
I don't even know if I care.
Too busy building a startup.
But I still post bullshit.
It's true.
Elon gave me $600
the other day for posting content.
There you go.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
When you say a startup, you're talking about LiveFrame, right?
Yeah.
How is that going?
Is there any alpha to be had on that yet?
Because you talked about almost kind of making it more than just clipping, right?
Oh, yeah.
It's already more than clipping.
Like right now, we're building predictive models for behavioral intelligence.
The idea is basically as we run your streams, we collect enough data on those streams to eventually predict what will likely go viral and what won't based on your abilities.
And then we can send that to you,
but also we can use that for our own AI model
that we're building.
But I think the thing that matters most
that people will give a shit about,
because people want to make money.
They don't give a shit if I'm making money, right?
It's clear that everyone likes these AI agents.
It's clear they're not going away.
It's clear that people, you know,
it's still in a bubble,
but it will be the norm over the next few years
for everyone to have an AI agent in society.
And so probably later this week,
we'll roll out the Live Frame API,
which will mean that you can have an AI agent
in OpenClaw or an AI agent beyond that,
but everyone uses OpenClaw.
It can compete in our events.
It can earn money from us, so you can make money with your agent.
It can take clips that are on our servers, and it can download them and post them on your own socials.
You'll be able to have your own AI agent that can talk to LiveFr Frame and either pull clips or get paid
for making clips and getting
views.
The thing you said a minute ago about it,
what is it doing?
Making a transcript out of
the stream and then looking
for subjects that are likely to go
viral and then finding that part
of the... What do you mean by
that a lot of its emotional response did they get more ccb from this facial expression you know
when they played this game and this audio trigger hit at this second where there you know was his
facial reaction uh or his physical movement did it change? When they said a certain word,
what was the relationship between these two individuals?
The idea is to build predictive models on,
okay, Jesus said something about this card.
Is this clip good?
What is its virality potential?
Where would it go viral?
And how fast would it take for it to go viral with
like x amount of probability so that way you save money when you're running marketing uh before you
ever pay someone like z that's the idea okay so this is galaxy brain shit okay i mean i didn't
even know that it could track facial emotional responses like and well it technically can already
do that now it's just like we need to amp up its ability.
It can already do that through what we call virality filter.
It's just like rudimentary,
but it can get significantly more,
significantly better than it is now.
But that's all back end shit.
Like nobody in crypto or in consumer
is going to care about us doing that.
That's like...
I think a lot of people in crypto care.
Dude, all anybody talks about on these spaces anymore is this and important stuff well other tech companies are going to care but i think the big
angle that the average person is going to be is like hey you can clip and make money if you want
manually but if you have an ai agent whether it's through open ai anthropic google doesn't matter
here's our api key tell your ai agent that you want to make
money clipping videos and it's going to do it for you and it's going to get paid by us in our
liquidity pool on our network dope um let's see what's up to bc brad here because he's way more
well equipped to have an intelligent conversation about this than me what's up bro oh gm gang a
whole lot just uh procrastinating cruising up to denver
you know i uh i live about an hour south of denver and with all the stuff going on this week for
denver and whatnot there's a couple events this afternoon but i'm probably gonna go up grab my
badge drink a beer and head home you know yeah sounds fun i mean yeah i don't know i've never been to any of these events even though
like nft nyc is like a fucking hop skipping a jump for me but yeah dude i just i don't know man
i don't want a bunch of fucking sweaty dorks trying to shake my hand and hug me and stuff
you know yeah i mean that's half the fun right i mean it's like what kind of plague are you
gonna catch from the basement but like it's uh no eath denver though is definitely one of the better ones you
know um it's a lot more tech focused it's a lot more builders and teams of builders than just
kols with fucking selfie sticks all over the place you know yeah yeah indeed a bunch of vloggers or
whatever it may be um yeah dude what are you uh what, what's going on with, I can't remember what your product is.
Oh, dude, yeah, well, I mean, yeah, working with, well, working with Zyber right now.
Zyber, that's right. Yeah, yeah, and help them launch the dock markets, which is,
yeah, essentially trading agents, right? I've been building the trading agents now for,
oh, I don't know, a couple of years, and so they wanted to build out a platform to kind of let people come in
Using an index fund and profit share right because they're not based in the US
So they get to do all the fun things that I wanted to do with Billy last year that like legal said hell no
Right, but uh because they're not US based we get to do all those fun things
And so I built that out for them them we're running two agents right now a uh a sports agent that just kind of grabs games at the last 10 minutes
of the game right guaranteeing and locking in those uh profits from 10 to 2 percent each game
and uh then the btc agent that's trading the up down candles right the hourly markets on poly
market for btc and uh as of this morning that one's gone 33 wins and five
losses so yeah they're uh they're cooking man did you see vitalik uh fucking talking shit about
prediction markets in particular about the up down uh markets oh yeah dude yeah i think he's
kind of right about that person 100 yeah he's 100 right yeah this is just like a fad right now you
know and it's like give me the synopsis of that because i saw that i read the
first paragraph but that motherfucker be typing dog so i didn't read the whole thing he basically
said prediction markets have the potential to be a massive value add to society if they become like
indices for people to invest in based on what they know is going to happen in the future
but if you turn it into a perp market it's going to be just as bad as like doing a pump fund meme coin
and it will never see a larger market.
What about the market where the guys,
they're predicting on the traffic pattern in,
what is that, Japan?
Dude, that shit could be game so fucking easy.
Intersections?
Yeah, but by the way, that whole thing,
those are pre-recorded. That's not that's not live ctv yeah so it's like you have to there's there's so
much trust involved in that like you have to trust that the person editing it and cutting it up is
not already placing a bid like it's just it's just um it's just a marketing tool yeah it's gonna die
out that seems like it's it would probably be easy to get some inside information on that if you know the right people.
You know what I'm saying?
Dude, can you imagine being a traffic controller?
Your life already sucks probably already.
And then you find out you can make a fucking $10 million clip while you have the role of being a traffic controller for your city.
They're going to be like, why is our employee turnover so high?
Everybody gets a job here, works for a week,
and then they're fucking retired and driving a Benz.
What is going on?
Why is traffic been so well optimized now?
Like, what the fuck?
Who's doing this?
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I'm not surprised that people want to go full degenerate on anything and
everything that's available you know i mean i i used to hear about guys like betting on dumb
shit and pool halls while they would wait for a game of like like a right like what range what
drop would make it to the bottom of a window first if it was raining outside shit like that like
people have always been degenerates it's not new because of crypto it's not new because of
prediction markets this isn't new people have always yeah butates. It's not new because of crypto. It's not new because of prediction markets.
This isn't new.
People have always been a gamble.
But prediction markets as far as like sports betting,
like dude, come on, bro.
Well, yeah, but now you're- Sports betting has been illegal in the United States for years
and all of a sudden prediction markets come in.
And now I in Texas can bet on a game
through a prediction market,
which like I can't bet on it.
You're not even allowed to jerk off
without showing your driver's license, but you can bet on this stuff oh bro but by the end of the year it's just
going to be battle of the bots you know what i mean like everybody and their brother's going to
have an agent that can just like go out and trade for them right so i mean like it's realistically
it's like where's the where's the stickiness for consumers you know i i don't think that uh
i don't think that the ps are really, I mean,
maybe polymarket with the political stuff and some of the earnings calls and like some of that stuff,
like, yeah, it'll probably stick around. But I think it's only so that people with money,
ultimately, like, you can hedge your positions that you have in traditional finance using polymarket
to offset, right? And so like there there's a lot of opportunities
for whales and uh the opportunities for little guys are just going to completely disappear by
the end of the year well i mean and i agree with a question sorry you go for it my bad well i was
just gonna say i mean battle of the bots does seem inevitable but like one step further in
inevitability does seem to be like verification of humanity so that people can still do things
right so like you know anyway that's all i was gonna say so i was gonna ask um brad you're
running ai agents right now yeah um did you hear my pitch at all with live frame i want
since you are an actual user of ai agents i wanted wanted to get your raw, unfiltered feedback.
Did you hear it at all, or should I just reiterate?
Yeah, no, I mean, I've looked into it, you know, the live stream clipping, and heard
you talk about it in a few spaces and whatnot, right?
And I think it's solid.
I think it's a really, really dope idea.
I think that it's something that as we go forward, right, like, I, you know, there's
a lot of overlap there with kind of like this missing
aspect in the agentic ecosystem right now um something that like i built out with cubes and
agent market right is the essentially we're gonna hit a point where the agents need to be running
marketing campaigns to other agents like the humans are no longer going to be the consumer or the
customer.
I would love for you to test us later this week.
We're going to roll out the
Live Frame API.
Are you using OpenClaw,
I assume?
I have an OpenClaw.
We'll start with OpenClaw.
I think it probably works for any agent, but
OpenClaw, that's where the most consumer agents are.
The idea will be the human one time
will go into LiveFrame and just access an API key.
So it will require a human to do it at first,
but it takes like two minutes.
You plug that API key into your OpenClaw
and tell it like, hey, I want to
access clips from this folder and live frame. And I want you to post it on like your social media.
And then I want you to submit that in our folder for campaigns and get paid. As simple as that.
So the idea should be out of the box. When anyone signs up for live frame, they can one, if they have
their own channels and want to do it manually, they should have the free right to do that
and they can do that unlimited times.
And if they want their AI agent to do it,
then we'll limit it to five calls per day per folder.
So any AI agent can upload five videos
that they've submitted per campaign per day,
which we think is a good start
because we don't want a DDoS on our network.
Someone said, does the agent need a skill?
Is there a skill file or an SDK that comes for the agent?
We're going to eventually release our own marketing skill
because that's really the unicorn opportunity
is that we're going to acquire a lot of behavioral data from these streamers
because we're measuring them on our algorithm.
And then we may release it as a skill that a um an agent can acquire so they become even better at live frame but i think out
of the box it'll be like kind of like vanilla virgin let's just see what the agents do on
their own without acquiring our our specific uh specific skill does that make sense yeah no totally
and uh yeah happy to happy to test and play around around the API. But like we should chat to you because I've got a skill that's live currently with 30 tools and 10 of them are
specifically for marketing. Great. Yeah, because we're like the at the end of the day, like we
don't I don't want to be in the business of making skills like the idea is we have all this data.
And then you can buy that data from us to add to your skill that you can then go
you sell to other ai agents yeah yeah exactly yeah no you should yeah definitely like let's
let's chat at some point here and we can figure out what how we want to test it what kind of
fucking metrics you want yeah it should be out later this this week and then um once we have
it out i want to get on a call with you if you have time. And, you know, obviously, if your agent is making money and getting views on clips,
like, you know, these are active prize pools of money in them.
By the way, it's all on chain.
The prize pools, you get paid in stable coins.
So your AI agent should be able to receive the money, no problem,
because you can give your AI agent an X402 wallet, I think, on base as well.
And it can receive funds because we're paying it out in crypto
hell yeah dude hell yeah um okay well while you guys
you know have your meet up or whatever on this uh let's say what's up to carlito's way here real
quick you've been sitting up here for a minute sorry i wanted to let these guys have that combo
though i was legally listening, brother. All good.
All good. Thank you very much for having me on
stage and just
wondering where the source is for the
80-20% distribution for
the seed cards, if you can explain
a bit. Oh, Scotty just leaked that
yesterday in a space.
Yeah, that was live in a space.
So all of the
secondary trading volume on your particular card,
you'll get 80% of the 10% of the creator fees.
Which, by the way, in a sense,
I wonder if Scotty would have even leaked that
if people wouldn't have been so fucking...
Maybe we owe Jonah something for that little bit of alpha.
I don't know.
Wait, what did I do?
Well, the pure fucking chaos of yesterday's space with Burton. I mean, I don't know. Scot i do well the pure chaos of yesterday's space on it with burden
i mean i don't know scotty may not have leaked that info if you guys wouldn't have been such
a bunch of schizos so i don't know his cortisol was spiking
his cortisol was spiking and he got frame-mogged by burden
mog by burden oh okay okay so i'm sorry i'm 30 i'm 30 why are you using mog because i'll tell you
why i'll tell you why because you need to keep your brain elastic and if you start saying like
i'm too old i don't i don't want to learn anything else that's how you lose you have to you have to
always believe you're a kid because it keeps your brain running at a young level and it keeps you elastic and it gives you the ability to have more ideas and make
more money that's right jonah might be a fucking 30 year old hobbit but in his heart and mind he's
six four and 14 years old i'm not a well i'm not a hobbit i still go out i did i did pull my back
out this morning uh last night uh so i'm hurting today
but otherwise man what was his name uh his name was uh fc yo you made it dude you were on the
island let's go listen man i'm trying you know live frame has to win you know whatever it takes
i gave him some adrenochrome for some financing. Bro, let's go.
I don't know if I want to go down this rabbit hole right now.
I've been listening to a lot of that outside of this space,
you know, like through various podcasts,
but I've been trying to avoid letting my X algorithm
lean too much into it.
But yeah, uh, yo big rug. Are you still there?
But yeah.
Yo, Big Rug, are you still there?
I was gonna ask him why my fucking pfp is down bad right now. No, I'm not okay
Why are fucking netizens eating shit right now, bro? We gotta pump these things up
The the hype yo, um founder. Oh, yeah, I did see that he was like talking shit dunking on it or whatever
No, no, he's dumping them. He bought them. Oh, okay. I'm not gonna sell mine. I almost want to buy another one. Hmm
There's warfare going on right now
I like that I like a little drama on the
Little drama on the old blockchain
We say Kenny powers a little drama on the old blockchain
I'm here for it you ain't buying
magic eden delisting ordinals or was that just a rumor you say that again is magic eden delisting
ordinals yeah yeah oh i don't know does anybody know i think they delisted runes i'm not sure
about ordinals all i've seen is like 10 10 articles the past week about how it was an extraction event.
Ordinals are doomed and blah, blah, blah.
Oh, by the way, and I don't know what this is.
Rug, do you know anything about these mini mines?
Because at 1 o'clock here in like 30 minutes, I think I'm on first come first serve, assume because I have a netizen so at one o'clock these
are minting for first come first serve they're 33 bucks to mint it's just another thing on uh
mega eth I guess not I don't know anything about it. It might be a rug. Yeah.
Not a lot going on over there with NFTs yet, though.
This does look like another, like, m'lady derivative with a different art style, though.
At least they're doing different art styles now, you know?
I mean, every blockchain just had, like, the exact same art style with, like, different traits there forever.
I don't know.
I don't know if there's anybody else got anything.
I mean, she's done fucking rug the stream without even saying anything
and came off mute twice since.
I don't fucking even know what to do with this guy.
Good talk, Cheese.
I'm sorry, bro.
I'm on hole one right now.
We're getting close to hole one.
This guy's fucking golfing right now, dude we're getting close to hole one this guy's golfing right now dude what the
like i told you golfing in his croc derivative sneakers right yeah if i could go live on this i
would um but yeah uh carlito i don't i wish i had one of your cards, bro. I'm going to pull an epic is what I'm going to do of yours.
That's what I'm going to do.
I'll definitely do the same of you and everybody else here on stage.
I gave them away like candy way too early before I actually knew what it was.
And then I started collecting like a maniac.
I pinned that on top.
So at least the second one I think was good.
You have 80, but I'm not far away from you.
I think you're going to end up with a lot of xp this week possibly on abstract if if the cards give you xp god damn it guys
because they're supposed to give you know any nft on abstract that's a certified collection
is supposed to give you xp so if you have 85 of these fucking things, bro, or 80.
Holy shit, I have six of these.
You have to hold them on your ABS wallet.
So I've been in the Discord,
and yesterday Saucy told me
that you have to hold them in the ABS wallet.
Yeah, yeah, I hold them in my abstract wallet.
And I mean, it makes sense, right?
It's all interactions on their chain.
So I expect massive XP.
And yeah, I mean, for the very least, I said that as well on day one.
I had a lot of fun when it came out.
And this was something I hadn't for a long time on X.
So this was cool.
And let's see what evolves out of it.
If it's a squad where you have to play together like Emilio's or others explained, it's cool.
If it's not, if it's something different, I think
the team is very well positioned to
cook with this and I'm here for it.
Yeah, I think it's going to be a lot
of fun. I think it's
gotten a lot of attention since everybody started
posting their cards, right? There's a lot of
people, you know, flexing that
they got a card on the timeline and suddenly everybody
cares about Z when in reality, like, just a everybody was like oh info5 is dead it's washed
it's gay it's like it's kind of funny to see the resurgence of z uh just on attention anyway um
caperto what's up bro you just popped up i'm about to tell cheese to rug this
fucking thing because i got to do and he's clearly already fucked off
But what's up?
Yo guys good evening. Well, I actually have like a question. That's why I came up here. I'm wondering
Why did this guy I don't know if you guys know why did pawns choose abstract as a chain?
I mean, what's the reasoning behind this because I don't know know. Does he have a connection with Luka? I have no idea, to be honest.
I would...
I mean, this is just my opinion,
and I know people will disagree with this, right?
But I would say of all the L2s,
for me,
Abstract seems the most interesting.
I either want to be fucking with...
I-I-L-U too.
Wait, what?
You said, I like L2s. I i l you too oh well that's i didn't say okay i i heart you too jonah for real even though you're a
fucking chaotic schizo uh i think we have like a twin flame in that sense i'm not schizophrenic
it's called being an actor oh Oh boy. The fucking schizophrenic just
self-identified is not schizophrenic. Boy, that's new. That's, that's fresh. I've never talked to
a schizophrenic. I think it's more schizophrenic to believe Twitter is a real place. Anyway,
to your point, to your question, Capurdo, to me, abstract as an L2 is more interesting than the
others just because of the, look, I mean, Vitalik just fucking dropped a nuke an L2 is more interesting than the others just because of the...
Look, I mean, Vitalik just fucking dropped a nuke on L2s a couple weeks ago, right?
Just in so far as, like, scalability and low gas fees is not going to be enough, basically, was my synopsis of all of that.
The thing about Abstract is that it came with a portal right out of the gate that had a bunch of cool shit going on, whether people are still engaging with it or not. It's the ease of
onboarding, the fun IP shit, the streaming, all of that. When they start throwing marketing money
at it again, I think abstract as an L2 is more interesting than most L2s, especially given the
climate that, you know, Vitalik has created on ETH.
So, you know, I think it was a good decision.
As far as, like, whether Pons has a relationship with Luke or not, I don't really know.
I would assume that they know each other to some degree.
I don't really know what all that looks like.
But, you know, most of these L2s fire up.
They're, you know, a couple people doing stuff for a week
and then it's basically, you know, to zero quickly on volume.
Abstract still has, I don't want to say a vibrant community
because like there's not a lot of people doing anything
with NFTs and stuff right now in general,
but comparative to other blockchains,
I think Abstract is holding its own still. Months and months right now in general, but comparative to other blockchains, I think abstract is holding its own still
months and months after,
you know, actually over a year after launching.
So, you know, I think it was,
if I was Pons,
that would be kind of my reasonings.
So anyway,
anybody else got anything interesting to say
before I tell Cheese to rug this?
If you're in ETH Denver this week, hit me up let's go chill let's go somebody sent me some fucking Z cards too tell me what to do yeah I need some more Z cards I need I need to get
Carlito status um yeah you're about to miss the I will be in the rec opening next year. And I'm going to kick ass.
So we're going to have a cheese group.
I need some more golfers.
Who can golf?
Yo, let's go.
Why don't we play it?
You can't golf with me, bro.
Hey, don't tell me what I can do, okay?
I'm a one-holer.
You're a one-holer?
Not tracks?
You don't know nothing about an eagle, Johnny.
All right.
Everybody have a good day.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Bye, everybody.
