Reality Check: XEET Creator Cards

Recorded: Feb. 11, 2026 Duration: 2:02:10
Space Recording

Short Summary

In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the launch of new projects and tokens, strategic partnerships, and the impact of market trends on asset performance. Key highlights included the introduction of 'Moody Archives,' the Zeet creator card initiative, and the notable price fluctuations of major cryptocurrencies like Solana and Hyperliquid.

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Yeah, it's our game.
Yeah, it's our game.
Yeah, it's our game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't this
that all right all right all right let's get it going um kenny powers get your ass up here bro
uh gm gm gm kyle how we doing? Jim, chilling.
Just been hanging out, man.
Just, yeah, man.
It's starting to get warm out again, actually, a little bit.
It's not so cold out, not so frigid.
Probably going to go out into the backwoods with the dog here today.
It'd be pretty fun.
Other than that, yeah, man, just got up, had some coffee,
been just watching the space burn.
Bro, there's so many things that are just like,
what the fuck is going on here?
Yeah, a lot happening.
Yeah, I don't get it.
Don't not get it.
Kenny Powers, GM, sir.
How are you doing?
What's good, guys?
What is good?
I can't think of very much.
Not very much.
I know those fucking NFTs that Coin Kong has as PIP as one.
What are those?
I have a tweet.
Broke computer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I would like to get one, but unfortunately, no one will buy my godforsaken fogs.
There's nobody buying those, bro. fucking down i know i could weave both of them and and almost be able to get uh a world
computer mf or whatever the fuck these things are called but man unfortunately i did the same thing
i always do which is i bought very nice ones with traits that should sell well above floor and so
now I'm unwilling to weave them and instead I'm just gonna rage hold them to zero well see if uh
I know divergent flowers is looking to add some to the bag last I checked the activity uh he didn't make it to april before he started we thing oh okay all right well there
you go um yeah uh well we'll dive in everything here uh just a moment alex gm how we doing
yeah i'm good fuck's sake
everybody catches me i'm tweeting out the space and uh yeah yeah i'm good i'm good i'm awake i
made it yeah bro i don't think you ever go to sleep i was i was streaming toasty bet last night
at what was it not nine nine thirty something like that last night and it had to be like one
thirty in the morning for you and you were live streaming as well. Oh, yeah, the live stream I don't have to do.
I can just walk away from the computer,
and it just does the stuff, man.
But I usually get up about 3, 4 o'clock or something.
That's fucking wild.
Yeah, and sleep in spaces as well.
Well, there you go.
Then that explains it um yeah i fell asleep
in a space once and i woke up married to an israeli um oh yeah i remember that yeah i remember that
that was fucked that was so long ago yeah i know um coin kong gm how you doing gm gm gm goy morning
goy money.
Yeah, like, let's go.
What's going on, boys?
I'll tell you what, these Goy guys, you just cannot get a moment's peace and quiet away from these guys while we're subliminally feeling Goyins anyway.
Let's fucking go.
Yeah, we're doing good.
How's everybody else doing today?
Good, good.
That's all he was talking about yesterday on AlphaCose Space.
He got on stage just to remind everyone the bag that he held.
And then he was like, yeah, that's it.
That's all.
Just wanted to come up and say that.
And that was all.
I'll tell you what.
He's got a good chill for the coin, though.
I mean, there is some, like, goaded motherfuckers holding and chilling that.
Fuckers holding and chilling that.
I'm not, I don't own any, but if I had some spare soul in my phantom right now,
I don't own any.
I'd probably be buying some of it.
So I don't know.
I'm actually on a pretty good trade on it right now because I sold it at like four and a half
and I bought back in at two and a half last night.
So I'm doing pretty good right now.
We're back.
I am live on abstract
oh shit dude
my fucking
viewer account
just got cut in half dude
it only took fucking
to go live
on abstract
I'm just gonna leave
this bitch alive
everybody's gonna get
to see me walking
in my underwear
fucking come
fucking you gotta be charging extra for that shit hey well you know trying to go after it's live. Everybody's going to get to see me walk in in my underwear. Fucking come check it.
You got to be charging extra for that shit.
Hey, well, you know, trying to go after them big tips.
Only cheese. Only cheese.
Good to be fucking God almighty.
Yeah, that took fucking forever.
I looked over at my stream yard and it showed abstract lit up.
It was like good to go.
What was going on here?
This is weird.
It was good.
What happened?
I have on my timeline right now because I'm not going to update the timeline.
In fact, I'm going to screenshot this.
um there's this says uh abstract handshaking emoji uh dune sim when evaluating data providers
we choose dune analytics sim to power real-time balances pricing and transaction history across
the abstract portal dune handles the data layer so we can stay focused building uh the best user experience the tweets deleted though now
and the dune analytics account is suspended
maybe this is the wrong dune analytics account
where's uh where's an academy that's who we need in here for that okay so i i think they tagged the
wrong thing is what happened okay because i just went to the tweet. So they quote tweeted.
I think that's what happened.
Everybody calm down.
Everybody calm down.
I think they tagged the wrong Dune account, and so they deleted the tweet.
Because this Dune account is suspended, but the account that they quote tweeted is not suspended. And it is, wait.
The Dune Analytics page I'm on has like a nothing profile i don't know if that's the real
one 216 000 followers dune analytics if i click on that it's a suspended account but if i go to
the tweet they quote tweeted it's at dune so i think they just tagged the wrong one all right
never mind everybody calm down relax nothing nothing to see here false alarm all right okay all right yeah i
don't uh okay man whenever i see motherfuckers deleting tweets i get real interested you know
yeah so like what was the alpha of the tweet it's no alpha they're just talking about how
they use doing analytics to do whatever oh okay oh to get all their information all their stuff um okay all right
well uh there we go i thought kyle was about to come in with some fucking breaking news but
they just tweeted the same exact tweet again with the right at so that's all it was
um abstract yeah yeah in case anyone's curious i don't this isn't really that big of a deal but
i'll just pin this tweet to the top so you guys can see what i was talking about it was just a
simple matter of the wrong tagged account okay no fuckery to be found here okay all right well
there we go um yesterday kyle and i did a stream, uh, with Undead, uh, 2043 and Saigo.
How cool was that?
I don't know where the fuck Kenny Powers was.
Where the fuck was Kenny Powers when we were streaming some genuine Undead stuff yesterday?
Anyway, it was pretty dope.
I have to say what an amazing, you, you can tell that, the acting kind of skill of an AI isn't quite there yet, but the whole story is based in this future dystopian world where we've, like, chipped ourselves and integrated with AIs and shit and all this, that, and third.
So it kind of gives you an easy out for the suspension of disbelief on, like, the acting, right?
disbelief on like the acting, right? Like visually fucking amazing though. And just knowing how much
further advanced the AI tech has come, uh, in the time since he made that trailer, like, man,
like when he makes this full film, I can't wait. I thought the story was awesome. I thought it was
just visually awesome. The IP is awesome. awesome i mean absolute brilliant use of the fucking genuine undead ip that was fun i what what platform was
he using to do the image generation bro this was this was two years old now mind you probably two
and a half three years old that and he was using mid-jerk. This is in the era of Will Smith looking real retarded eating spaghetti, right?
And he managed to make this look so cool.
Like, holy shit, dude.
Yeah, everything.
The music.
Do you have something to end for this?
No, I do not.
I mean, I can go to my profile and see the...
Was the stream broad?
Did it save there?
See, the same fucking thing happened last night.
I did a stream last night for Toshi Bet,
and it's not saving the...
Like, the video itself is not there anymore.
Like, it didn't do it for Toshi last night either.
I streamed for Toshi it and it's like there
was nothing i just pinned a tweet from saigo it's got the 2043 the movie.com link where you can go
and see all the info about it but it is it is cool it's it's a very compelling storyline and
world that he's created and uh with with today's more modern ai tools i think he's gonna he's gonna
be able to do something fucking absolutely amazing guy brilliant guys creatively brilliant clearly yeah yeah it was uh yeah it was pretty
dope so um but yeah we had a good time with that um but yeah i mean kenny is not showing up on
stream i'm blown away i will explain to y'all later where i was but Jeez, I might be up in Tennessee on Monday or Sunday, just
to let you know.
For the boys, let's go.
There we go.
Okay, let's go.
All right, cool. Yeah, just
hit me up. Let me
know. How long
are you going to be in for?
Probably a few days. live stream with kenny
powers right here next to me oh shit oh shit dude right here who's gonna sit on his lap i don't know
if that uh i don't know if the angle on that camera is wide enough for you to sit next to each
other who slaps it oh no no no no no hands the desk, sir. Yeah, I can change the angle.
That's not a problem.
I have another chair that Kenny can sit on.
And it rhymes with Vivian.
I bet you've got something Kenny can sit on.
Yeah, it rhymes with Vivian.
Kenny will be over here fucking full ride, baby.
Did you say Didion?
Didion yeah it rhymes with a Didion
but it doesn't come with any
yeah anyways
alright let's fucking get to it
Kenny we haven't done a
market report all week
can you fucking do your job
can you do something
yeah I mean all that great right
now we're getting a little bounce off the lows this morning but yeah jobs report came out
beat expectations apparently 130 000 jobs are added um which you know is good but the reality
is uh the chances of interest rate cuts you know we're hoping for a few this year, probably not going to get one until July.
That's where the odds are right now, maybe two cuts, July and October.
So because of that, we saw a little bit of a sell-off this morning on crypto and in the stock market as well.
Currently, the stock market is down.
NASDAQ is down about 45 points.
Dow is down 84.
S&P just flipped green, but they were down.
They're starting to rally back midday right now.
But yeah, crypto, you saw Bitcoin, you know, run up to just under 70,000 bucks.
On the jobs reported, it initially spiked up to 68, then proceeded to dip all the way
back down to 66.
And then now it's back up to 67.
So low volatility this morning as well.
ETH also got up to 2,000, dipped back down to 19, currently sitting at 1,946.
Solana dipped below 80 bucks down to 78, currently sitting at $80.54.
Solana has been getting absolutely ass, you know what,
over the past few weeks. I mean, just a month in general. Not only Solana, but yeah. Solana's
down 41% over the past month, which is just fucking insane to think that. It was $148
at the beginning of January, mid-January, about January 10th, 11th, sitting at $148,
currently sitting at $80 right now.
So, I mean, it's a lot of downward price action, XRP's at $1.36.
Hyperliquid seems to be holding the strongest, currently sitting at $29.39, just under $30,
down about 2.5%.
But overall, you know, with the turbulence of this past month, you know, it's been up and down.
I mean, we saw Bitcoin hit 60,000.
I mean, you look at hype, it's up over the past month, up about 19.5%.
So it seems to be the best performing asset out of all the kind of majors and top 20 coins out there right now.
But yeah, I mean, it's a little rough on the streets.
MemeCoin's not doing a whole lot over there, you know
You're getting a couple runners here and there two three mil five mil ten mil
But nothing serious
No big hundred billion dollar spawns out of the trenches in the recent month or two, you know
Nothing really, you know people are afraid to hold anything right now people take take their profits, you know, get in and out of trade relatively quickly.
And there's not much sustainability for new runners recently.
So, yeah, that's just kind of how it is right now.
Looking at NFTs, same situation.
Obviously, we talked about the world computer.
Those are still sitting at 0.07.
Doing pretty good.
$142 for one of those.
So the first kind of big mega ETH NFT post mainnet seems to be holding relatively well.
You got Pudgy sitting at 4.34.
Boardage just over six at 6.06.
CryptoPunks at $29.89.
Still $60,000 for Crypto for crypto punk seems like a good deal
but yeah, other than that good vibes holding steady 89 and a half
Or point eight nine five. I should say
Yeah, just not a whole lot of action
Everything just kind of think we're in a holding phase people just waiting to get some confirmation
one way or the other so all i see is continued chop for the next few months we'll see what
happens i thought i just saw a thing about adam weitzman getting a fuckload more gvcs and a bunch
of the strategy coin yeah he did uh that was gonna be something i uh ran into here in just a
little bit but you brought it up. Let's talk about it.
Sorry, I didn't get the itinerary forwarded to me this morning.
The itinerary?
No, I was going to go into some NFT stuff and meme coins,
but well, let's fucking keep doing that.
Kenny, NFTs, I don't know, man.
It seems like normally with E ethan everything just starts eating shit
we'll see nfts kind of increase significantly but we really haven't seen that i mean yeah
you can still get a pudgy penguin at 8 500 right now cheap yeah i mean fucking insanity um board apes i don't know how i guess it's just because they're fucking
board apes uh they're just they they are maintaining a good eth lead on on um you know
on pudgies and right now i mean well over an eighth and a half so yeah which you know to be
honest i mean i guess a board eight pfP is still maybe more of a social flex.
But I still don't.
The ROI proposition on Bored Apes, I don't get it at this point, right?
Pudgies, at least you have the abstract TG to look forward to, even though we don't know when.
look forward to even though we don't know when um yeah you know i think bayc just has that
legacy kind of provenance to it being the first kind of real pfp collection of breakout right
it was the face of nfts in 2020 2021 it was the reason people kind of had this you know california
gold rush to nfts uh it was all derived from board apes
doing so well so yeah they've got that in their pocket as far as like historical provenance you
know you know board apes also get ip rights a lot of fucking nft collections don't give you the ip
rights anymore i don't know what i don't know what the situation is with pudgy penguins i don't know if you're allowed to use your ip or not um i know that's like out of the question with like
creeps and a lot of other stuff anymore you know but you can still you know you can you can uh you
don't i mean with creeps you don't have rights to your ip that's what i'm saying yeah i'm saying
yeah yeah yeah so like yeah i mean and this is not unique in that
most nfts that are prominent now right you don't have the ip rights too but you do still with board
apes and i guess ultimately if you're a collector of art of of culturally significant stuff whatever
like i guess the board ape ip is gonna remainaded, right? Yeah, but to your point, Kyle, we've seen spinoff businesses off of Bored Ape IP.
The burger place, the drinks, it goes on.
Pudgy's kind of does everything in-house, from what I understand.
Am I correct on that?
I think so.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know for sure.
I haven't read through Pudgy's whatever IP rights.
I don't know if you're allowed to use it or not.
I haven't seen Pudgy Penguin's businesses being fired up by holders though yeah um i like the pudgies
with the afros yeah i don't know why i do too um yeah those are pretty dope man i wish i had the
fucking money open see give me a big old fat airdrop so I can go buy a fucking pudgy penguin.
Because I would definitely PFP the fuck out of that.
You looking at that one on the floor with the iPad?
Any of them.
Like this green one right here.
It's 4.654 ETH.
Like that one's pretty dope.
Or he's not green.
He's got a green sweater in the gray.
What is that?
What kind of hair is that?
There's a jester hat right there, too a fedora or what kind of hair is a jester
hat right there too unfortunately he has kind of derpy eyes but yeah you know me i gotta find
the clown traits and all things yeah yeah at you know at any rate yeah i'd fucking any pudgy i was
able to get my hands on if i found another one i liked i'd just try and swap with somebody but
yeah they're um i would definitely go with a
pudgy uh over a board eight one because abstract two i don't know i just i like the pudgies uh
speaking of abstract i saw somebody float an interesting theory as to why a lot of people
are down on xp right now and i and it's sound and i hadn't considered this but you know they just made
a whole bunch more giga chads and there is only so much xp to go around so if they increase the
number of giga of giga chads and people getting a boost people getting more xp that xp has to come
from somewhere yeah but they only added like eight more people to gigigaChat. Was it only eight? I thought they added a bunch more. I remember seeing the post.
Okay. No, no. There's only like
219 GigaChat or
239 GigaChat rolls.
I can't figure out why I'm down like
10 fucking KXP
over the last couple of weeks.
I'm going to be brutal. I'm going to be hit
hard again this coming week because
because of because of
not being able to stream so much.
So yeah, it's going to be
it's going to be shit.
Han said about time, Mr.
Streamer, bro. If I could
have came back, I would have been back sooner.
I would have been back
sooner, but it's not me.
Yeah, but yeah, Pudgy Penguin.
Yeah, I mean, that one on the floor is pretty good.
I'm not a fan of the shirt.
But, I mean, you can always put a different fucking shirt on it
on a PFP if you're making your own shit.
That's retarded, dude.
I know, but if you wanted to change it. You either own the fucking NFT or you don't. You can't your own shit. That's retarded, dude. You get changed in good NFT.
You either own the fucking NFT or you don't.
You can't just be making good stuff.
Well, you own the NFT, but I can fucking make my own artwork.
You can factually do whatever you want, but I'm going to make fun of you
for being too poor to buy the NFT that you wanted.
No, I'm just saying you buy that one and you just fucking
have like a black shirt on it or it's fucking something like they don't maybe they don't even
have that i'll tell you what the best looking one on the floor right now in my opinion is the naked
one with the bow tie and the mohawk and the eye patch i like the eye patch trade a lot i think
that's pretty cool that's just a good looking pudgy penguin oh yeah yeah that one's yeah that one's
pretty good um any of them look good but either way uh maybe one day maybe one day 8400 bucks
yeah i mean we're shopping way above my weight i i gotta go look at the the midget penguins i gotta
go back to flogs i gotta go back to flogs uh let. Boy, do I have a couple for you.
But yeah, yesterday, of course, Adam Weitzman on a fucking tear,
as Kyle was saying.
He said he'd been spending more time with the Good Vibes Club's community and their team.
He really likes the vision that these guys have.
He already spent 50 ETH on Mr. Vibefoot,
which is the, if you're watching the stream.
That is the main IP.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the main one.
So then on top of that, he added another 175 GVCs.
And he added 10 million Vester uh to that as well he had to have done that otc
right it yeah yeah okay because otherwise gvc would be number one in volume by the way while
we were talking about pudgy penguins uh i'm not saying we caused this purchase but someone
purchased one and they managed to become number one in volume on the day uh that world
computer meggy collection had been number one on the day literally since they were like half minted
out yesterday so that's uh back on top anyway that one's pretty dope it's got a fucking uh
military hat some cucumbers on the eyes i like. Yeah, I am saying cucumbers.
Yeah, pretty fucking dope. Get down,
cat. My cat's over here
trying to drink out of my fucking cup.
so Adam Weitzman on another
fucking tear. It's just
the amount of
money this guy is spending in the space it i mean he he's making
a large size bet on nfts and but i don't he's never gonna sell them that's the thing the guy
doesn't need the money he's he's not making a bet on nfts as much as he is wanting to just
he's making a bet on web 3 yeah he's like well yeah he's
interested in web 3 and he's collecting like you know extremely rare or extremely big bags
in like projects that he's a fan of and i think that's cool i mean not everybody buys stuff
because they want an roi on it right i mean like you know most of the shit that we all buy all the
time is not to turn around and resale.
It's to use or to have or whatever.
Adam Weitzman's not going to go buy a Rolex to fucking leave it in a box and then sell it in 10 years.
He's going to wear it to an event or something.
My thing is, obviously, this was all done OTC,
but like where is he?
Like who in the fuck had 175
or did they go to a bunch of different holders
or did the team sell them to them?
Well, it could have been out of the actual strategy
bank that they have, you know,
I mean, because all of those NFTs are listed
on OpenSea now as well.
The top wallet of GVCs
even right now. I don't know if this is a team wallet.
Then there's another wallet
and then the third biggest wallet is 161.
I wonder when this all happened.
I don't know what Adam Weitzman's wallet is either.
But you would think you would still see even the transfers, right?
Yeah, I don't know if the transfers have happened yet.
Because I'm looking at his gallery wallet.
And that's where the Vibefoot is um and i can share this wallet here bro look at all the
mega mutants he has one two three four i think he has five yeah he does look it's a fucking static
right there oh that one's so cool um five mega mutants that's crazy how many mega mutants even
were there 10 or something 10 10. Wow. He has five.
Machi has two.
And then the other ones,
Leor owns one.
Tyler Gehring owns another.
And then I think an unknown wallet has the other one.
But then there's still one serum that's left to make one.
And Adam wants it.
I think last I heard,
I could have sworn last I heard
it was like a $3 million offer on it
or a $1.5 million offer
is what he'll pay for it.
Insane amount of money.
But on top of that, you just scroll through this wallet
in the amount of one-on-ones look at the chimbers genesis uh quirky's one-on-ones
he's got uh there's the there's the creep one-on-one genuine undead that's love isn't it
yeah yep that's my favorite one. That is a really cool
one of one.
Tons of fucking quirkies.
This is the big deal he made with the quirkies.
Hey, he's got some
flogs in there. Maybe I'm not
No, you are doomed.
You are doomed.
No, you are doomed. Sorry. doomed. No, you are doomed.
231 Meevits, 101 Quirkies.
Like, I mean, this is just one of his wallets.
This isn't even his vault.
Like, one of his, I thought he has another wallet that has more.
But yeah, insanity that the level of
collecting this guy's doing.
So yeah, kudos.
Kudos to Adam.
Pretty good stuff.
Did any of you guys sign up for Cash City?
You didn't?
No, I don't even know what that is.
I saw that.
Yeah, I saw Will tweeted something about it.
I went to go check it out, but forgot to finish it up.
Bro, I went in...
Cast City was...
I remember seeing this tweet,
and it had like fucking 100 likes on it.
And I was like, not fucking with it.
I probably could have got fucking accepted right away by doing it.
But yeah, I i mean there's thousands
of people signing up for it now um but it looks like another it looks like yeah it's gonna be
another you know ponzi on soul um is what it looks like so a dgen game coming soon to solana bro
i was supposed to launch last week yeah i know this is what i was talking
about yesterday i believe but like you know in a choppy market where things are down and stuff like
things like that could just like spark a rally you know just because people are looking at some
somewhere where they can you know throw throw a few dollars at and try and make some money
if it if it takes off it could be a big runner who knows you know throw throw a few dollars at and try and make some money if it if it takes off it could
be a big runner who knows you know but like these types of activities are typically what starts
spawning in the midst of a what feels like a bear market vibe you know um something like that could
be big it could have a bitcoin moment like uh on abstract last year you know so you never know uh so it's good to
pay attention to that stuff yeah um who looked the weird more people uh bread what's up bro how
you doing uh gm gang not too bad just uh getting kind of a slow going here this morning was was up
until like i don't know like three uh messing with shit and
then i don't know i just got up and i feel like i'm uh i don't know i'm getting there we're halfway
through our coffee we'll we'll be uh we'll be back to scheduled programming shortly i feel like
shit nice um yeah uh speaking of you being up here is pretty good zeet is actually giving out
uh or not zeet but Zyber is actually giving
away, the original prize pool
for that tournament was supposed to be
obviously, fucking
Nikita killed everything
in Fofy, but they
announced yesterday that the top 250
people on the leaderboard
are going to split $50,000 so and i
think that i think that's going to be distributed pretty soon um yeah pretty pretty sure like in the
next like couple weeks here two weeks yeah week yeah yeah so yeah really uh yeah really good
good for them uh it's good to see the brands like that and like Zyber actually like doing something.
Did they have to?
Not really,
because I mean,
the tournament wasn't live,
but maybe a month.
And then for them to still give some of that out,
I could understand if it was like three quarters of the way through,
but I don't even think we were at the halfway point because I thought it was
supposed to end in March.
But I, I i i can't
remember uh all the details on it but uh yeah yeah so shout out to um brett i know you had no
control in that but whoever the fuck did uh yeah kudos to them um for doing that so yeah pretty
good stuff there and then uh i'm supposed to be getting these these fucking
creator cards today we'll see i'm anticipating a tweet coming out in about 20 minutes or so
um so we'll see what's up uh big rug gm what's happening
yeah big rug's got a nice one of these things with the angel wings and shit goddamn
he must be he must be busy beating up little
rug uh oh my god damn why you why are you going at him like that oh my god all right uh let's say
good morning to uh bandit and then we're gonna go to an academy an academy don't leave the fucking
stage wait and let us say good morning to you uh Bandit, what's up? Good morning.
I was just looking for spaces, and I didn't see anything.
Then I said, oh, thank God.
Ken and Idiot are hosting, so let me jump in there.
We appreciate it. I love that everyone is rocking the new, if I not say it,
World Netizens PFP.
I got one, too.
I just haven't PFPed it, but I like them. They're cool. I got one too. I just haven't. PFP'd it. But I like them.
They're cool.
I think they're cool too.
I want to get one.
But I'm like.
These mega ETHMFs going to dump on me.
I don't know.
It's not that.
It's not that.
What is it?
0.07 or something?
It's like 140 bucks.
Did you guys see.
There was this one guy.
Who minted a one out of one.
And he sold it for like.
I don't know.
$20 profit.
And then 30 minutes later, it went for 4K USD or 2 ETH.
Yeah, I have the very first pin tweet up there.
First of all, it hurts my soul to hear you say 4K followed immediately by 2 ETH.
Like, holy fuck, we're down bad right now.
Yeah, we are.
It's good if you want to accumulate yeah i guess
yeah um the highest sale two east forty one hundred dollars one point four two east uh one
point two one point one um you know the one for ethan up you know um which is considering the
floor price right i mean that's a serious premium on that.
But yeah, that's fucking awesome.
I'm considering getting that bunny that's on the floor.
Honestly, I kind of like it.
It's that one-on-one that's the one-eat.
The yellow hooded one?
It's pretty clean.
Oh, it's an actual one-on-one.
Go fucking get it.
Come on, change that PFP.
I was going to say something about your PFP,
but now I'm going to really talk shit about it
because it's not a 101.
What do you guys think was the thought process?
Because these were Insta revealed.
Do you think you minted it and was like,
oh, mine looks nothing like the other ones.
It's probably a floor one.
Let me dump this one that looks nothing like anything other ones. It's probably a floor one. Let me dump this one.
That looks nothing like anything else in the collection for a $20 profit.
Well, you know, Bennett, what was interesting is that rarity actually didn't come out until the mint ended.
So you were able to see the NFT prior to the full mint out, but it didn't actually have rarity.
It didn't update rarity until it was minted out.
So I'm not exactly sure when he sold
it did he know it was a 101 at the time um maybe he needs glasses i mean it looks like a
sick looking nft but uh shout out to that guy thanks for making someone else this day i guess
yeah the guy just went and bought some rope from home dep. Yeah, that's pretty rough. Yeah, he took his four grand and bought a fuck ton of rope.
Well, I mean, hey, that sucks.
Yeah, I'm trying to pull up all the 101s right now because I'm too lazy to scroll all the way down.
You said there's a bunny?
Yeah, the yellow hooded one.
It's like a onesie bunny.
Oh. Oh, yeah. That's's uh yeah that one's pretty dope i like that one i thought he was talking about this this this chick
one right here because that's an actual that's an actual bunny ears you see this kyle oh and i'm
not even sharing it look um that's an actual bunny. You can see the bunny ears.
Those are cool looking.
Yeah, this looks like some Pokemon fucking...
It's called a onesie piece.
Yeah, it's a furry.
Fucking whatever.
Yeah, dude.
Don't fucking come here.
Hey, I'm not...
Yo, if you want to dry hump your friends in a onesie, I'm not the motherfucker that's
going to judge you.
You live your life, king.
But yeah, I like that one, Coyne.
So go buy it.
But, yeah, these things.
Wheels did pretty good.
Is he still holding his?
I wonder if he's still holding his or not.
He had quite a few of them, didn't he?
I think he had, like, 12 of them last time I was checking.
It's crazy because yesterday when we were looking at it he
had 13 and he was in the top like 15 holders and now if you go look at it i mean there's multiple
people with 20 and up uh yeah you know there's wallets that hold 40 50 70 so a lot of accumulation
um from believers in this, uh, collection.
So, you know, we'll see how it goes.
It looks like he's sold a few.
I'm not seeing them.
He may have, he may have gotten all the way out, um, on that run up.
Cause they did hit 0.9 ETH.
So what, you know, 0.09, 0.09.
Oh, he still has, uh, he still has four still has four left is what he's holding right now.
So, yeah, good for him.
And he was buying these.
He was buying them pretty fucking aggressively.
Yeah, yeah.
So, he came out the gate pretty early on getting them.
So, yeah, good for him.
And Academy, what's up bro yeah good what project i'm trying to understand what project you're talking about what which nfc
project you're talking about there it's the number two in volume on the day world computer netizens
the uh it's like a m'lady looking kind of art on meggy meggygie. Yeah. Ah, I've been at work all day.
Some of us got to earn those dollars,
day to day.
I find me my fair share of fiat in my day.
I got to go back to that tomorrow.
It just gets in the way,
doesn't it not?
certainly does.
very well.
I come on stage and then you just monologue for three hours, I never get a chance to say hello
Then I gotta go
Can't get a word in with this guy
You just gotta fucking pull it to Johnny
And just come in hot
Just come in like that next time
And you'll be good to go
Yeah, I'm just an English guy
I like my tea at a teapot kind of thing
I'm just polite, you know
I can't interject But that's fine though I'm just an English guy. I like my, you know, tea at a teapot kind of thing. I'm just polite, you know,
I can't interject.
but that's fine though.
Like British accents are allowed to,
interject.
You can do what you can.
nevermind.
I was going to go really gay there
for a second.
You never go 100%.
Doesn't matter which mode it is he was close but yeah
very well very well very very well thank you buddy um just uh kicking back doing some data
uh exploring some projects just yeah having a good time really it's all very good life's fine you
uh good good um here's a question Have you gotten a Claudebot yet
and that can just run all your shit through Dune
for you and build all these boards
even faster?
Yeah. I was exploring that.
It probably can do,
but I've not fully explored it yet.
Okay. Well, if you don't tighten up, you're going to
see an alt account running around called the Cheese Academy.
I'm going to put this bitch in full effect. I'm fully aware that see an alt account running around called the cheese academy yeah and uh yeah i'm gonna i'm
gonna put this bitch in full effect um i'm fully aware that my uh my data can be replaced by someone
else ai wise to do it so uh i have to up my game no i did i did see that and i've not really
explored claw bot or clawed you know nothing like that yet but it was on my to-do list have a little
look see what makes my life easier but i
do enjoy doing the codes if i'm honest and once you've written and done one code for one bit of
data you don't need to change it from project to project so it's not onerous it's not that bad but
um yeah yeah who knows fucking ai taking my job yeah i mean it can do it and you know it can do
it with just within minutes you know this
is actually not even jesus this is one of his agents actually hosting the space no wonder he's
been so well spoken today whatever um yeah well good glad you're doing well um yeah all very good
thank you buddy yeah uh root what's up what it do do? What it do, man? Just came on stage.
Saw a lot of familiar faces in this place.
I'm going to be like a true, how do you say this?
Bag worker.
G-Netizens, y'all.
G-Netizens.
Megan, you know what I'm saying?
One man came up here to shield.
What the fuck was that?
I didn't even catch the end of that.
G-Netizens.
Pay attention, Jesus.
Oh, oh, oh jesus is joking about
working for your bag jesus is from a part of tennessee where they just can't quite comprehend
your uh accent they're rude i'll translate for you though brother yeah bro what i have an ai agent
that does that for me oh you're a agent please give me your private keys because I want to bully cheese. Yeah.
Big rug, I called on you and you were silent. Yeah, no, bro.
I was just doing some work in the career.
What up, man?
Just hanging out, man.
I'm looking at these netizens right now.
I feel like everybody's, all the cool kids have a fucking netizen PFP.
Now I'm looking at them.
Speaking of AI, did anyone happen to read that article that
is all over my timeline just over the past 24 hours no uh how to be better or what what the
fuck was it uh it was like some doomer type shit of like bloom bro yeah bro the ai is taking over
the world and we're all dead and you know like blah blah blah you know the same the same shit
that like ilia left open ai saying the world was ending last year and like here we
are i constantly hear people doom posting about how no one's gonna have jobs in the next fucking
year or two and i'm just like dude like maybe if you have a desk job like depending on what you're
doing you're in some some hot water but like the reality, like, dude, I work in manufacturing, right? Like
the reality is to build a robot that would do what I do would take a significant amount
of advancement in robotics. And then you would have to scale that up to mass production of
that. Designing the robot is not even the biggest issue. Designing the infrastructure
to mass produce the robot is like a decade-long endeavor so it's
just i don't think things are as fucked as everybody wants to believe but it's not you
know it's more fun to be hyperbolic so yeah dude we're cooked everybody's gonna die and uh skynet's
going live in fucking six months make sure to get in on the ico for skynet well bro the robotic
shit too like like they just came out with some like robot girlfriend of some kind like in china and it's got it's got warming skin yeah but it's 150 grand
dog like you how many robot like how many workers are you going to replace for like with 150 000
robot yeah i'm gonna need more than a removable silicone pussy for $150,000. That's for sure. This thing's got to fucking kill my enemies for me.
But hold on.
But what was it?
It was like five, maybe eight years ago.
An 80-inch TV would cost you $15,000, $20,000.
And now you can go buy one at Walmart for $600.
Well, again, look, the price point on that bot is not because of the materials cost.
It's because of the manufacturing cost.
And so, you know, again, like once they get the infrastructure built out to mass produce these things, it'll be a totally different game.
But for right now, you know, they're extremely expensive to produce because it's probably a whole lot of handwork going into that.
Let's see if I get this netizen.
I'm trying to buy the one that just got listed with a gold crown.
And it's probably someone in the Philippines remote
controlling it anyway. Oh, dude.
I don't know. Oh, dude. Don't ruin the fantasy.
I don't want to feel like I'm getting a remote
control H.J. from a little Filipino boy.
Come on. It's a robo lady
boy, bro. Dude, I fucking suddenly
I feel like I'm on the Epstein list. What the
And Academy, what's up, bro?
I just wonder if you'd just want to give me a round of applause
because I've just checked Zeet
and I am now officially a creator on Zeet.
Just give me the tick.
Yeah, the packs are supposed to be, I think, dropping today
and then they open.
Then the packs are going to be opening next
week is when that's going to happen.
See, I've...
Now I've just railroaded what you've just been talking about,
so I feel kind of guilty, but I don't...
No, it's alright. They were talking about AI,
and Kyle was going off to buy one of these fucking
netizens. Yeah, I was just being a brand risk to Jesus'
fucking job, as usual, so
it was probably pretty convenient
that you were up there.
Yeah, wait till he changes the PFP.
Yeah, so...
Could you just...
So I've really kind of turned off
Z a little bit since the stoppage.
What are these cards?
What are their packs?
What is it?
What are they?
Well, they're going to be packs of cards
of certified creators.
We don't know any of the mechanics yet of how the cards are going to work.
I think of Fantasy Top.
I think Fantasy Top with, you know, a lot better mechanics.
When Pons was on here, I don't know if it was Pons or it was Scotty that was telling us.
here i don't know if it was ponds or it was scotty that was telling us like they they were paying
really close attention because the card the original cards announcement came out uh right
around the time fantasy top was like failing and um he said they were looking at a lot of the
mechanics that that um you know fantasy top had done but like their whole strategy had
to be rethought once fantasy top like rugged all the basically rugged the community um it's going
to be really interesting because you have very small creators you have big creators mid-tier um
i had suggested like larger creators value is tied to the support they give smaller creators.
Um, not sure if something like that will happen, you know, uh, how it's going to work now with
the change of info five and posted on the timeline, because that's how they would pull
their data.
We, we just don't know.
There's not enough information.
I think we're going to find that out. I'm hoping they would pull their data. We just don't know. There's not enough information.
I think we're going to find that out.
I'm hoping.
They usually tweet around noon,
so I'm hoping we see that here in the next few minutes.
The packs, from what Pond said,
the packs are going to be free to mint.
Now, I don't know if they're always going to be free to mint, but the packs are going to be free to mint. Now, I don't know if they're always going to be free to mint,
but the packs are going to be free to mint.
And, you know, at that point, I would imagine to, you know,
create, you know, to create not only liquidity, but also like a viral moment,
you're going to want the cards to be tradable.
I'm trying to pull this tweet up right here.
No, that's not the one that he posted.
So they're like a top Trump thing.
So, you know, if they pulled a Ant Academy,
it would be more valuable than a Bandit, right?
Obviously.
Yeah, that I can't. That I can't can't yeah I don't know
I can't vouch for that one
but I mean we'll see
we'll see what
it's going to be really cool though
because there's different
like their original graphic showed
legendary like common
there was like three different
levels of a card for a creator.
Same thing like fantasy top.
So if you, if you were never in that, um, it's, it's kind of hard to understand what
I'm talking about.
Uh, but I, I think we're going to get a lot of the answers cleared up today.
Um, but I'm trying to go to Pons's, um, let me go to Pons' account because he actually posted something about this and how they are.
Yeah, here it is right here.
So Wednesday, the personal packs are released.
Step three next week.
Oh, so personal packs are released so i think individual certified creator personal packs so
maybe we get our own packs and see i had heard that from the beginning like each creator gets
a pack of their own cards so like i don't know how many pack cards come in a pack. And then I think we can give those cards away or gift those cards.
Anyone can mint.
And then next week,
anyone can mint packs of creator cards,
free mint.
And then step four,
the tournament begins.
So I don't know.
It's going to be going to be cool.
now I'm going to go fucking refresh my,
my Z page and see what's up.
I wish they had a, and I had mentioned this before,
I wish they had like an overall leaderboard for like total Zs.
But I think they're doing that so they don't like discourage people maybe.
I don't know.
It's, you know, it seems wild that you have the actual tournament leaderboards,
but then you don't have like an overall leaderboard.
And I think that would also drive, you know, people to...
Spam the timeline relentlessly?
No, because spamming the timeline is not going to be a thing
because Zee's not allowed to scrape the API to get the data.
Like that's not... I mean, they're going to have to reward it the data. Like, that's not what they're going for.
I mean, they're going to have to reward it somehow, right?
So it's going to be based off something.
Yeah, it is, but we don't know what.
Yeah, I don't know.
You might have to just submit all your own shit
as a certified creator or something.
Who knows?
Yeah, well, they, in another post,
it was, and I don't know if I have this one saved,
I think that was Scotty talking about how the original thought behind ZEAT
was not an InfoFi platform.
It was more of a distribution layer of Web3.
And he gave a really good explanation of that.
And he said while it did cut them short
because they were able to raise a lot of money
through these InfoFi tournaments,
it was never the end goal.
They didn't want to be another Kaido
or another cookie or wall chain.
Their main goal was
to, you know,
the main thing
for endgame for Zit was deeper than
that, but they would never give any
explanation, so.
Ponson just tweeted.
I seen a GM tweet.
Yeah, it's got a graphic
about the process. So
brands, creators, fans, little cyclical things, how it all works.
So he's just posted something that I think you're trying,
well, you are explaining it very well.
But yeah, something.
Yeah, I see that.
All right.
There you go.
It sums up.
And he got a call got a call
and I got a call yeah
that's the first time in a long time
so yeah that
that's going to be happening
if you're on abstract make sure you are
getting signed up
get set up as a certified creator.
I don't know when they're going to go back and review more people.
Happy that you got certified.
Kyle, I don't know if you did or not.
I did not.
But again, I'm not upset about it.
I'm not a timeline guy.
If I was them, I would not make me a certified creator.
There's only a limited amount of spots.
And I only really participated in one tournament.
I think they said 400.
400 spots.
Yeah, I wouldn't have given one of those spots to me
if I was on the team, right?
There's plenty of people who are very active
in multiple tournaments all the time.
I just say inappropriate shit on spaces.
That's my shtick.
Over 10,000 people applied or 10,000 accounts.
I haven't been denied either, though, which does give me hope that perhaps, because I am a community member in Barish and cross-abstract, and I do want to participate in this, hopefully.
The fact that I haven't been denied means in a bigger round of
individuals being accepted.
I will be,
I'm not going to be mad that I'm not already accepted.
Some other news on abstract today,
Moody archives coming today.
I'm reading GMB's tweet.
What it includes taken for multiplier boost deflationary mechanics
uh affordable entry to moody ecosystem make sure you have noties on uh you should see notifications
in your um in your abstract portal for that as well i did go check i'm whitelisted so i gotta
i gotta figure out what all that uh entails as far as that goes uh some other abstract
news yesterday uh the team behind monster they said bye see you bitches i'd like to point out i
said from day one i saw these things this was a pokemon ip nightmare these fucking three main characters are literally they're not just pokemon like they
are barely changed versions of existing pokemon like this is a fucking ip nightmare this was an
obvious grift uh yeah dude sorry if you got burned on this but i was on some fuck this shit yeah i
get to begin with dude these guys absolute lack of creativity this was a money
grab in my mind from the beginning and i'm happy to see it have uh having been lit on fire officially
yeah i mean it it yeah it sucks for the people that you know that um it sucks for the people
that minted but man these things did run up all right so you had an opportunity to fucking sell but who sells when you
when you buy something on the promise of other rewards and other shit and you know but this was
to my i'm pretty sure this was a 0.25 mint price there's 750 of these fucking things
and the team fucking yeah they cleaned up never delivered a game never delivered any fucking thing i don't think there may have been a game but i think it was like really just click basey
shit it was like a 0.25 mint price is not as egregious as what some people paid for some
so it could have been worse um so yeah for? For what'd you say?
For monoliths?
No, I mean, that's still an active ecosystem.
So that I'm not worried about.
Um, well, we'll see if, uh,
Animoca's got it.
Animoca's got it.
Calm down.
I believe Animoca has the presale allocations for sure.
As far as everything else, that's a big question mark.
So now you can go get this.
Hey, you want to CTO a project on abstract?
There you go.
You couldn't pay me to CTO.
If you ever managed to make this popular at all,
you are going to get a fucking,
you're getting a letter from Pokemon headquarters lawyers.
Why don't you just change the IP?
Let's run it, Big Rug.
Let's change this to one monster instead of one piece um and then we can let's do that we need to workshop this a little bit yeah i mean hey this is this is
cto and live on the go uh i got about 250 man to you know do some things okay Okay. Okay. Well, I mean, Kyle does a lot for $20, bro.
That's pretty good.
Change your life for $20.
He can get two of those fucking things.
And then the other news on Abstract, they launched the 8004s.
Brad, that's just AI agents on abstract, right?
Yeah, 8004 is a smart contract standard
that lets agents register and kind of like prove like,
hey, look, I'm on chain now.
Nothing really besides that.
It's just a registry.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, we've seen Tully and them make one
for the Bears community.
We've seen the, was it, is it Big Hoss or is it, yeah, Big Hoss.
That one is already, I think they're up to like 220.
I think they're up to like 220 of the rentals done already for Big Hoss on the abstract socks,
which is pretty fucking wild um
yeah and so i mean that's 220 more people they did start some shit with people bitching about
you know uh that they shouldn't be able to you know go get this badge unless you just go buy the nft there's arguments on both sides of it uh right now
222 rentals uh have been done there's a 0.2 eth collateral uh plus a 10 service fee
and you get the collateral back once you send the nft back now the penalties are pretty fucking wild because if you're an hour late it's twenty dollars
less you get back five hours late 100 bucks 10 hours late 220 plus hours late you get fucking
nothing back so even if you send the nft back after like oh shit like i forgot to send this
back and it's a day later like and you send the
nft back as well so not only do they get the nft back but you don't get shit back because you were
too late uh all this all the all the the shit's right there on there so yeah uh pretty pretty
interesting stuff um as far as that goes with uh you know, that agent. And I seen something where Mason and Nail totally are working on something together on Abstract to do something with another agent.
So we'll see what we'll see what happens.
I'm trying to think if that was everything kind of popping off on Abstract.
So it's up to Andres mode here while you're thinking.
What's up, dude?
Well, what's good, lads?
Nothing major on my end.
Just that I'll hear out what's happening, what's cracking amid some work,
playing with Claude a bit.
But, yeah, slow day on my end.
What about you, lads?
How's it going
i'm just hanging out man just hanging out doing the daily thing what are you doing anything
interesting on Claude i know we got some uh some Claude devs hanging in the audience right now
uh well to be honest i'm um so i set up everything a while back and then i bought a new pc and now i have to set everything
yet again uh so i'm at that point where i'm literally just setting everything fucking back up
but yeah i got like two interesting things in my mind which we'll see um i want to play around
with it a bit i remember i used it like in um fuck i think like mid 2025 and it was pretty decent already
and like i'm eager to see like the developments i've been reading about are like insanely not
even comparable to where it was before so that's why i'm trying to put it back on and and yeah
get it working a bit um but yeah we'll see get the cube skill brother i posted it in the comments those dk's live and
uh lets your agent onboard itself uh to 8004 uses x402 i mean it's all the all the buzzwords right
but uh it's legit and it works well brett how big of a difference is this latest model of open like
from what i'm understanding it's like light years ahead.
Is it really that big of a step up from last year's version?
I mean, yes, but only because all the LLMs have been like just like on, you know, are cracked now.
Like Opus 4.6 is absolute insanity, you know, and apparently the new Codex.
I like Opus for code
stuff better than Codex, but
apparently the new Codex is like
crazy too from OpenAI, so like
they're only better now
than they were last year because all of
the tools and everything have gotten so much
I don't know anything about any of this. don't i don't vibe code so it's cool
yeah there's a bunch of teams building like cool stuff around it now you know and there's a lot of
uh a lot of talk of like different or like a newer social media type thing for the agents because
like i mean we're just all calling
it like the slot pit you know myself and like the other like molt devs that are building things like
that because it's not like again i mean for a while it was just humans pretending to be ai i
mean like look how sentient i am you know and it's like yeah shut up bro you know like it's really
just ai slop with ai slop you know and so people are trying to figure out better ways to kind of get these things to interact. There's been a few real cases of like agent to agent commerce,
you know, like there's been like, I can count on one hand, the amount that are actually real
of an agent finding another agent and hiring it, you know, so I think that's like the direction
we're going in. But it's funny, because everyone's oh i'm just gonna build this stuff and like yeah it sort of works until like you realize that like you can't building in that
ecosystem you can't test for everything because it's all ran by ai and they're finding like
new ways to to just fuck shit up you know like it's you can run it through a billion you run
your code through like a billion tests and then there's a hiccup with one of the agents.
It's like, oh, I'll just do it this crazy ass roundabout weird way.
And then it breaks and they're like, oh, wow, it doesn't work.
And it's like, well, what the hell were you even trying to do, bro?
You know, it's learning to be very, very specific with all instructions for everything is really the key right now in that ego.
Interesting.
We've got our senior vibe code correspondent Juice up here.
What's up, Juice?
Yo, what's going on?
I heard the answer.
You came flying up as soon as we hit this subject.
I figured I'd pass it to you real quick.
Juicy, what up, man?
You juiced up.
I heard Opus, and then I came.
And then I came again.
Yeah, it's a game changer, bro.
I don't think, I don't think like, I mean, if you haven't fucked around with Opus yet, man, you have to.
Because like we went from like, I don't know if you guys saw that article that's been going around the something big is coming or whatever.
Man, that's a crazy fucking article.
I mean, you could look at it in a bunch of different ways for me i found it a little bit more motivating because like i'm already i'm already doing this
shit right i'm trying to be as early as possible there's new stuff coming out every single day
and uh the ai train is leaving right and every single day it speeds up a little bit more um it's fucking wild that gpt uh 5.2 codex uh so chat gpt's uh or open ai's like premier coding
model it essentially trained itself it made itself better right fucking crazy stuff so now
we're already at the point where ai is making other ais right um what let me ask you what's
the burn rate like how much are you spending
if you're if you're fully entrenched in this shit you're coding eight hours a day over a month
how much are you spending like what's your burn rate um there's a lot of different strategies
about it right so like essentially like kenny if i message Kenny, if I message you saying hey, right, and you message me back saying hey, my next message to you in our chat, it's going to, the LLM is going to read everything before it tells me another message, right?
So it's going to read your hey again.
It's going to read my hey.
And then it's going to read the next message.
And then it's going to spit out an answer. So so like that's what we call context in llms so as your context grows in each chat starts
getting more and more expensive and so each of these llms they have different costs obviously
opus right now is like 30 bucks for a million output token um and then you have models that
are as cheap as like five cents for every million
output so it honestly just depends on what you're using um personally i'm spending probably like
maybe like 300 bucks a month now i signed up for a whole bunch of different shit
and i figured out what works for me um I'm using most of Anthropix models.
So I'm using Opus, I'm using Sonnet, I'm using Haiku.
But then I'm also using a cheap Google subscription for all the basic shit.
But I also have my general chat on my Clawbot that's running off Kimi.
So Kimi is like the Chinese equivalent of like Opus sort of or Sonnet.
So it's sort of just nicer
to talk to. But yeah,
maybe around like 300 bucks an infrastructure
car minus the PC.
How do you rate this setup,
Brad? Yes, similar
bro. Same shit. I'm around 300.
I mean, like there's been a couple
of months ago, I like burned through my 300.
It was like up your API usage and I was like ah i don't want to do that though you know um yeah i'm using opus
primarily uh gemini pro and uh for anything like local i'm just running olama or gpt for all with
a few different uh plugins on it uh the local models aren't that good yet yeah like olama's kind of shit i feel like it broke my
first uh claw bot i'm on my second one now um but i'm actually not using api keys for any of them
uh kimmy coding it runs off of like the oauth and so does the anthropic models so um it took
me a little while to tinker around to get it working like that but uh yeah i'm not uh
i'm not like um reloading my api credits or anything anymore because i don't ever hit my usage so
bro if you run a new moltbot go uh go snag snag the cubes sdk bro it's like 30 skills for
registering your agent and allowing trust in these ecosystems reputation scores and
escrow payments all that good i'm just too focused on penetrating the small business owners right now
bro i mean oh damn i'm about to fire up a small business yeah damn can you train me daddy yeah
i'm not too uh like i i get we're in crypto and and it's good to be like, you know, like cross pollinating and stuff but
Fuck man crypto people are poor. They don't want to fucking pay for anything
I'd rather I'd rather help like some makeup artist check
Who's it got like too many bookings or some shit, you know and fucking automate her entire business get monthly fees
You just cold out reaching them are you like going to these places and like trying to teach them that there's more to the world than GPT
Yeah, I mean
And juice disconnected from off his Wi-Fi
and use a cellular data, bro.
Still yeah.
You just got to boot him, bro.
Hello, Juicy?
I didn't realize that AI was all about
penetrating cross-pollinating.
Maybe I should do this, bro.
It's penetrating hairdressers, apparently.
I'm not keeping up with David.
Male and female?
Is he still talking?
That's a nice PFT you have there, buddy.
You like this crown?
Just to remind everybody that we was Kangs.
remind everybody that we was Kang's.
You know what I mean?
I see that.
you got disconnected from your Wi-Fi
and we lost the last 30 seconds of what
you were saying.
He might be
totally fucking cooked. Let's say it's up to
Dijonnie while Juice gets his fucking signal
together. How you doing today, Dijonnie? Was it just me?
It sounded like he was in the bathtub anyways, no?
It sounded like he was seasoning up some chicken. No. It sounded like he was like,
like seasoning up some chicken or something.
It was like really slimy and slappy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like when you got a big old coin gong,
you know what I'm saying?
When you got a big old bucket of like chicken breast and he's a fucking
heavy episode of reality.
But he was talking about,
he was talking about the penetration,
you know what I mean?
So, and then, yeah, we just kind of lost him uh who are you saying hi to i was saying hi to our good friend johnny we kind of skipped over him because we were on the uh ai talk and i know
juice wanted to talk about that but what's up to johnny apologies for my transgressions he's about
to tell us about his fucking ai agents come on to johnny what's up oh jim jam not that
much i will be sick bro a little oh damn that's the reason why i haven't been yesterday on the
space okay all right go ahead what's up get it out i'm waiting for it to come out today i hope
the cards will be cool and uh yeah i I'm using codecs and Claude.
A little codecs, a little Claude.
And I have like 15 projects running on GitHub.
So hopefully I will make something.
But just made a good point.
I also started to reach out, send emails to owners of some headdressers and stuff to make them a website, to make them
easier to do stuff.
Come up with your own ideas, nigga.
God damn, dude.
From our Indian friend.
Right, Big Rug?
Speak up, Big Rug. No, no. That's my Indian friend, bro. I know. Right, Big Rug? Speak up, Big Rug.
No, no, that's my Indian friend, bro.
We should partner up, Juice.
Make it more efficient.
Sounds like Dajani's looking to copy some AI models.
Yeah, you Europeans love Cajun people up, right?
Damn, Juice.
What nustic pot y'all to begin with? I can promise
you that. Anyway.
I'm moving on swiftly.
This fucking
Juice done turned into Pete.
God almighty.
The number of fucking
M'Lady derivatives I have cheated off this stage.
Juice, you need to understand
how much I love you, buddy. I hope you
understand.
Okay, but seriously,
the speed at the shit that this
is going is alarming.
It's alarmingly fast. Every day
there's something.
Man, I can't even imagine how things are going to be in six months.
I hope that things aren't as crazy as I think they're going to get.
Like, that fast.
I hope it happens kind of gradually, right?
But it's pretty fucking scary, man.
Can I ask a retarded question?
Have we seen Seedense?
Here's my retarded question of the day.
Is this thing going to advance to a point where learning how to vibe code becomes obsolete in the same way that, like, if you had learned how to code in, like, coding languages, it became obsolete with vibe coding?
Am I going to get, in six months, am I going to get, is Grok fucking 75.0 going to come out where I just
talk to Grok and tell it what I want and I don't have to do anything else. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I
mean, it's essentially going to be there. So that's, so I read an article the other day and
it was like, it was saying like, it wasn't saying don't do this on your own. Don't run your own Claudebot.
Don't do all these things.
But it was like, within a few months,
you're going to see all these major corporations
that have billions of dollars put out programs
or put something out where you don't even have to do that.
You pay a service fee to them.
And boom, it's just like fucking instantaneous,
like Kyle's asking.
Like Coinbase is going to have it.
There's going to be so many fucking companies that have it.
And a lot of these smaller people
that are building all these apps and doing all this shit,
like they're going to become irrelevant
because the main big ones are going to fucking just
shut everybody down.
You think that happens?
Yeah, that happens for sure.
I think that'll happen for sure.
I think it's just a matter of time for when it happens.
If you're starting with this stuff today,
then you are going to be absolutely way farther ahead
from people that are starting in a few months from now.
Like there's people that are waiting for a few months from now like there's there's
people that are waiting for for a new apple hardware that's going to come out in like two
three months that's going to be able to run more stuff more efficiently but everybody's just in
this constant loop right now of like but you know like i'm going to be two months behind and you
know two months is it's maybe it's two years in online time now, right? Think about how fast we used to be advancing
between 2005 and 2006.
Fucking nothing happened, bro.
But now we've done 10 years worth of progress
in the last year when it comes to fucking AI.
And it all learns from each other, right?
I mean, it's all...
It's just...
I mean, the speed that it's learning is insanity.
Yeah, and so, like, it's basically, like, opportunity cost, right?
I mean, like, you should, it doesn't matter how hard it is, you should be trying to do some shit with it, right?
At least, like, an hour a day of fucking around.
because even that will still put you way farther than ahead than somebody that's just starting out
like fresh two months from now or three months from now, you know.
You would rather be adapting with the flow than just, you know, getting into it whenever it starts getting easier.
Yeah. Well, I mean, I would say when it gets easier, you're not going to be on the you know by the time you see your your fucking you know
your grandma on facebook talking about it or saying i just made this like you're not going
to be at the point where you're going to have to try and use 18 different things uh to you know
to essentially build something it's just going to be one lms are only going to get better and the
tools are only going to get better and it's only going to be one-half-and-movie. The LLMs are only going to get better, and the tools are only going to get better, and it's
only going to get cheaper to use all these things.
And the fact that, like, it's costing
me, like, 300 bucks a month right now
to have, like, a team of,
like, a million-dollar payroll
in my fucking pocket is just, like,
absolutely insane.
I wanted to tell you guys,
so, like, you guys know my mom's in investing
and shit, right? So, like, whatever, she's always on YouTube, she's always watching videos, like, um i wanted to tell you guys uh so like you guys know my mom's investing in shit right so like
whatever she's always on youtube she's always watching videos like all day long and uh she
sends me this video of this asian dude who's like talking about the market she's like yo man like
this guy's like just so good right he's so solid she's like i wrote down all the stocks that he
like talked about yesterday and they're all green today and like you know he just explains everything in such a good way right like i'm and she was like so happy that she found this guy
it's like um it's like getting admitted into like an alpha server for us or something right like a
gated alpha server that you that you never had access to and now you have access to it she sends
me the fucking video bro the whole thing's ai the dude's not even real right the whole thing is just crap
and like and it's just like we're getting there right these boomers are gonna get
fucking cooked bro these young these young people that are getting into it well it doesn't matter
how old you are but as long as you're getting into it all that boomer wealth is gonna go straight
into ai right because you'll be able to convince all these fucking boomers to to buy your shit
right or buy your circus or whatever right because they have no idea absolutely no clue they started
off on facebook and they were mind blown they're like oh what do you wait so you could actually
like sell stuff on here like wait wait it was a game changer yeah the um the other side of that is um you know you see it all the time
even when you're scrolling on instagram or tiktok it doesn't matter you don't even know half the
time what's real and what's not like and it's gonna get it's gonna get more and more wild
still kind of tell but only barely and i'm sure some of it i can't tell right
i'm sure some of it even i can't tell even though like i'm watching all this all the time and i know
for a fact dude the other day my dad was like oh i saw this crazy video of this uh it was a hippo
being chased by a lion and then it shits all over him and i i didn't know what he was i was like oh
that sounds like a crazy video then i saw the video i was like this is so egregiously obviously ai but like yeah dude it is fooling entire generations of people already
and even the ones that are in the know will be fooled soon right it's so hard to tell bro so
hard to tell it's cadence right when the ai's talking it doesn't like humans pause and do like think for a second mid sentence type shit, you know, like the AI like that's it's almost too consistent to perfect.
Right. But like with the the mouth, like the lip syncing, like audio to, you know, video syncing and like all of that shit, dude, it's getting so freaking good, man.
Like it's the same shit dude my parents are always like
sending me random shit and they're like oh did you see this video look how funny it is and it's like
yo that is like very obviously fucking ai guys like what what are you like did you not know that
they're like oh really it's like oh god bro like yeah boomers are cooked dog like they they don't
have a clue man i'm just more surprised by uh chases just actually reading an
article i'm surprised you didn't just like copy and paste it into some chat chippity thing and
tell it to summarize it you know like come on now you're already falling behind you're falling
behind boomer and chases don't even read good so i'm not sure that it and ai may have read that in
chases no my my good reading is is uh is on point. No, if it's something I'm interested in, I'll read it.
If it's not, I'll fucking get a summary.
You could have done two malt bots somehow during that time and then made $10 million.
Yo, I want to stress how important it is to maybe just take half an hour, an hour out of your day to just fuck around with one of these premium models.
Because, like, you really are going to get left behind.
And when you get left behind, like, you're not going to be able to catch back up.
And it's going to be fucking brutal.
You're going to want to kill yourself.
You know, you think the crypto pain is bad?
Wait till you don't have a fucking job because, you know, think the crypto pain is is bad wait till you
don't have a fucking job because you know this robot's doing all your shit for you your fucking
kid loses their job you lose your job your parent loses their job everybody loses their fucking jobs
and you guys don't know what to do you just sit there watching slop all day long you know because
that's all you know what to do yo so like I have a question for you then. Do you think college is that important anymore?
Lawyers are so cooked, bro.
Imagine being a lawyer right now.
Imagine going to all that school
just to fucking throw a fucking thing into chat GPT
and be like, yeah, like, you know, drafts.
This has been a thing for like fucking
a couple of generations already
where by the time you get out of college with a degree,
the tech that you were learning about for the field that you were going to go into is already obsolete
right and that is just accelerating i mean to the point where just the landscape across you know just
the reality that we live in it's like dude you don't even know what the fuck this is going to
look like in a in i mean it's just that that point where you can't even predict what's coming next is getting closer and closer to right now every day.
Even doctors are getting replaced by it.
My mom just had a surgery not long ago.
The fucking doctor was sitting there on the screen.
He wasn't even in the room.
There was a fucking nurse practitioner in there in case they needed to do like life-saving shit like CPR.
But the robot did everything and his doctor is sitting in Boston.
It's like, and we're in fucking Tennessee.
It's like, what the fuck?
So it's, it's wild and induced.
I mean, it's all right because AI can spot trends faster.
So it's going to be able to trade more efficient.
It's going to be able to, know it's pretty soon you're just going to
have to be able to provide it with with money because uh i mean fuck i don't know we're just
going to become useless two things um i told my open call last night i'm like hey like i want you
to start working on your own project start to finish uh you manage it don't even tell me about
it unless i ask for an update i was like start making one of these fucking bullshit polymarket arbitrage fuck ass bots that everybody else is
making i was like start paper trading make sure the win rate's above 80 when it's above 80 let me
know and we'll see what happens there but uh the other thing is is uh i messaged my sister last
night i was like yo like when it comes to my nephew like
fuck all the math shit fuck all the abcs and shit he doesn't need to know that anymore
i was like anything that boosts his creativity that's the only thing that's gonna start setting
people apart right because your prompting is you know is a byproduct of how creative you are
and that is absolutely everything right he's gonna
need abcs then bro sometimes i have my i have my i have one of my cousins who's like i've been like
just like drilling into him because he's always talking about like yo like uh he's like yo like
um you know one day we're gonna we're gonna own lambos and ferraris right and like um and whatever like he wants to build
something right like he wants to do something that that makes him money right and so like he's
sending me his prompts and like the prompts are just so like like you could just tell they're so
ass right and it's just because it's just because he's he's starting like now like what like maybe
like a year later right didn't really use chat gpt for that many things just used it for basic shit and you
know he's you could tell that people are behind right so like if i was gonna i was gonna focus
on anything i'd focus on uh getting getting a subscription to a premium model definitely worth
the cost right like absolutely like no brainer i mean if you're spending like 100 bucks a month
and just fucking mcdonald's you might as well just spend $100 at Anthropic, right?
And getting more creative with the prompts.
You can get a bunch of these LLMs to help you make prompts
to prompt your premium models.
So like, you know, start doing some cross-prompting and some cross,
like, you know, get the creativity flowing, see what works, see what doesn't.
That's probably, like, the best advice I could give
everyone from now.
Well, there we go.
Deep dive into fucking AI
that I wasn't anticipating this morning.
Yeah, dude, here I am with a fucking
world niche and whatever
the fuck this PFP is, and I should have bought
some Claude fucking tokens or
whatever i don't even think yeah kyle we were talking about your well you well you guys were
talking about like the factory automation and stuff like bro like when that like like that's
not that far away like you're saying like 10 years maybe and fuck no bro it's just gonna happen like
as soon as like it's gonna hit nitrous bro like it's not a it's not a matter of developing the software i agree with you that
the software could be there literally right now i mean like they could probably already be it's it's
a question of scaling up manufacturing facilities to the point where you can mass produce robotics
that are precise enough to be able to do the stuff that humans do, right? Because not only do you
have to make the infrastructure to produce these things, but it has to be mass producible enough
for the cost of these bots to be lower than the cost of paying a human. That's why, in my opinion,
production jobs are going to be safer longer than desk jobs. And I don't know exactly what
that timeframe looks like, but I can tell you right now, it would take at least a decade to build out a time. What Elon Musk is trying to do with,
I think they just got done Ixnay and what the Model S and the Model X, and they're going to
turn all that into manufacturing facilities to build these Tesla bots. That's going to take
years to retrofit those facilities.
It doesn't matter what you can do with an AI.
An AI can't come out and physically unbolt shit from the ground
and physically bolt more shit back into the ground in its place.
Yeah, physical labor is not going to go anywhere
because somebody is always going to need to do it.
Well, that's not necessarily true.
You could, once robotics gets advanced enough,
the idea that you could if once robotics gets advanced enough yeah and have you
the the idea that you can build a robot that can do physically what i can do that's not impossible
and and it's not even we're not even that far away from that on the design side a lot of these
robots are there again it's it's it's an issue of upscaling the manufacturing of such a thing
to be mass producible that's the limiting factor that
i makes me feel like i'm at least for you know in a manufacturing position i feel like i'm safe for
five to ten years whereas motherfuckers sitting at a desk might have you know six months to two
years tops depending on what they're doing i really do hope it takes that long because then
that means i got a head start um i also wanted to mention that like I'm slowly getting to a point where like doing anything other than this just feels like a huge waste of time.
Like it feels like the opportunity cost is just it's just blowing away, you know, like it's not it's not worth it for me to fucking waste my time on anything that isn't that doesn't have to do with ai or my goals right like you know
playing a fucking video game i haven't played a fucking video game in like in like two weeks man
because i'm just like fuck it what's the point right it's not gonna do me anything i would
much rather sit here talking to my fucking open claw about ideas all day long no i mean there you
go man i mean and that's that level of dedication
is going to have you miles ahead
of a lot of other people for sure,
myself included.
So good on you for being focused like that, right?
Because I mean, that was true before AI.
Like you definitely had better things
you could have been doing with your time
than playing a video game.
But you've obviously found something
you really enjoy and really believe in
and the ability to hyper fixate on it and just be
focused and about it man I gotta say
I respect that a lot
fucking lock
in season right
the world's changing so
let's go to what D Jenner
came up had his hand up what's up
D engineer good
day you guys.
Just jumping into the convo on the automation side.
There are already fully automated factories in China that are operating in the dark, and it is becoming more popular.
I have a robotics background. I worked for companies doing deployment onto manufacturing floors for robotic systems prior to my current Web2 job.
I have a robotics background.
And I think automation on a manufacturing plant floor is going to be easier than replacing individuals at a desk because it is very simple to train a robot and install, especially with how cheap robotic systems are becoming now.
To have individuals that have higher-end knowledge
in terms of how to prompt data,
like if you can prompt, if you know how to prompt,
prompt engineering in general will keep you in a job
and will keep you ahead of people.
And like any of my nephews and nieces,
they're getting into school or out of school kind of thing.
I tell them to take as much prompt engineering courses as you can, right?
Because that will keep you ahead in the job market.
Us in Web3, we're literally at the tip of the spear
with technology a lot of the times.
So we have insights to this before other people see it or even touch it or hear about it.
But, like, I disagree with your point, like, an adult.
Is it an adult?
Yeah, it's an idiot.
Look, I hear what you're saying, but the thing is, not all manufacturing processes are the same.
There are certainly facilities that can be 100% automated.
There are more complex manufacturing tasks, though, as well.
I mean, there simply are.
This is literally what I do for, like, I literally work in a manufacturing facility.
And I got to say, I mean, like, when started there, there was like, just to be specific,
what I print books, right?
I run a big ass printing press.
When I started there in 2006,
there was machines that required four man crews
to do literally a third of the work that my machine does.
And my machine's 15 years old now, right?
And you can automate a lot of things out of the process.
And they're constantly automating more and more of the tasks away, making things more efficient with automation,
with robotics, right? I mean, when I started there, there was a lot of machines where a guy
just had to stack shit on a skid, right? And then my machine has a robot that stacks the shit on a
skid, but it still needs a person to stand there and feed it certain things and troubleshoot it
when things go awry and things like that.
The problem with a manufacturing facility is not even necessarily the task.
It's when things break, right?
It's having a team that can service these pieces of equipment, that can troubleshoot things.
You still need electricians.
You still need mechanics.
You still need a lot of things to make a manufacturing facility go even outside of its original task.
And that's not going to be the case forever.
Again, like some of these robots that they're coming up with in engineering now will be capable of, you know, turning a wrench, turning a screwdriver, getting into that tight space that the Germans made absurd to even get into right on the machine.
Right. There will be robots that can do that,
but the robots need to be designed, which they probably are already pretty well designed,
but they, again, they need to be mass produced to a point where the cost of the robot is less
than the cost of the employee in the time that the robot is expected to be, you know, operational.
And we're just not there yet, or every single company on the face of the robot is expected to be you know operational and we're just not there yet or every
every single company on the face of the earth would be using robots instead of people already
right uh i do agree with that aspect in terms of like debugging issues and getting uh equipment
back up and running and even programming and installing equipment those are like key roles that I don't think would be eradicated
for the next maybe 50 years, right?
Plumbers, electricians, mechanics, those roles where you actually have to process a problem,
think about it, figure it out, move it around, because not every problem that you run into
is exactly the same.
And it requires a lot of human interaction
and human problem solving.
So those are like,
and the irony of it is when growing up,
I'm in my 40s,
my parents always said,
go to university, you'll guaranteed have a job.
Trades wasn't an option.
But now turning around,
where I'm telling my nephews and nieces go into
trades those are guaranteed jobs that will last you longer because of the advent horizon of ai
and how it's definitely changing the workspace so it is it's a very interesting time we're living in
um but i man just prompt engineering i think juice was saying it learn prompt engineering time we're living in. But I imagine just
prompt engineering. I think Juice was saying
it, learn prompt engineering. Play with it
as much. I think going to school
to improve your math
and understanding
programming and
understanding how to program. Learn
how to prompt JSON and
build JSON prompts. That is
huge. Those are very important
skills i think i wanna i'm excited to see like the first like criminal trial that's like held
by opus or some shit you know and they acquit they acquit some dude like he gets somebody off
that like you know for sure killed those people you know? You know what the problem is, is that at least right now,
is like the AI is so agreeable unless it's like clear and obvious, right?
So you're like, oh, he's guilty.
And then the AI is going to be like, yeah, he's guilty.
But then the other point is going to say he's not guilty.
And then the AI is going to be like, yeah, he's not guilty because of this reason.
And then it's just going to lay a standstill of the AI is just agreeing with each other
on the opposite ends.
And then, and then, yeah yeah, we just wasted credit.
You're absolutely correct.
Can you imagine the mistrials on that shit?
Yeah, I mean, there's so much that's still coming and so much that's already happened, you know?
Well, like I was saying earlier the only issue where like i think the only issue with ai
definitively saying something is correct or like wrong is that if that happens then ais can
basically destroy humans right because then be like this person is inherently evil so we should
just basically one send him to jail two give him the death sentence or three you know send him to
an island full of degenerates.
It's like we want it,
but we also don't know what the repercussions would be.
Bro, who in hell wants that?
You put AI on top of a robot,
then we're totally screwed.
The problem, like I said earlier,
is the fact that because they're all
you can't test for everything because they
just make up and find different
and weird ways to do things right and so it's like if anyone's seen that video of that chick who's like
a software developer right and she's watching the guy just put the same different shapes into one
hole in the box you know yeah yeah yeah yeah i know yeah box right hole in a box oh right but
like i don't know i've seen the video oh Oh, okay. Yeah. You know, the video then. All right, fine. Yeah. It's the same shit with AI right now. You know,
it's like you build for something and then it kind of figures out like how to do something
with what you built that was like not intended at all, or like, didn't even, you didn't even
plan for, you know? So like now when you get like robotics into the mix, it's like, you know,
he told it to go change the laundry and it built an rpg
out of things it found in the garage yeah that's fucked up man i saw this one uh i saw this one
post it was about like uh what if there was like a country right like a virtual country of like 20,000
opuses right and like they just take over the internet, bro. They contact Chinese manufacturers that still exist.
They dominate the e-commerce space.
They do all this crazy shit.
And their country is just better than all the countries on Earth.
So fucking weird.
Yo, let's get some...
Dictatorship.
Robot dictatorship.
Yo, let's get some Malt dictatorship yo let's get some molt bots to just swarm
like a sandbox right like and we'll just go raid like snoop's property and like all those things
i bet you like that's got to be like pennies on the dollar at this point for that
yo that that pothead from like you know the early 2000s the the one that used to like run around
saying like this is gonna happen with ai and that's gonna happen with ai he's uh he's looking pretty smart right now right oh dude the burnout conspiracy
theorist of fucking 2006 is like the fucking crystal ball having fucking like predictor of
all it's amazing how much like the burnouts of my generation ended up being right about almost
everything dude it's so crazy all i need to do is
literally run into bigfoot in the fucking woods it will be 100 fucking continuity it wouldn't even
surprise me anymore i'd be like oh what's up bro yeah brett i was thinking about your robot analogy
doing laundry and i was thinking like the robot might actually just build another automated robot
to do the laundry or he's gonna think about his own credits and be like it might be more wasteful for me to do the laundry so i'll just hire someone for minimum wage
to do my laundry and then we'll save we'll save you money right like essentially it's just like
a middleman at that point right we're gonna go full circle where we get all the fucking
resources to build millions and billions of uh roboters who will make the steel? Who will make all the chips,
What will they do?
Robots will make the robots.
What are you talking about?
The people of Switzerland will.
Yeah, I just want to be
a little realistic.
It will take some decades.
We're going to mine the ore
and everything from your mountains and and just make them prairies well bro last year who wants
to be realistic dude let's go full hyperbolic fucking dystopian future like come on man
next year on mars right but last year there was that bot you know like and it was just the eliza
shit right i mean and that was like it looks bot, you know, like, and it was just the Eliza shit, right?
I mean, and that was like, it looks like shit, dude, like duct tape and popsicle sticks at this point.
But like the Eliza stuff, even those agents were like, oh, yeah, I'm going on vacation.
I'm going to start looking at flights and looking at destinations and all that stuff while it was supposed to be like reading emails and whatnot, you know?
And like that was like a year ago now, bro.
So like we're we're getting real close, dude, to some scary shit.
My, uh, my assistant has my credit card.
Oh my God.
Well, juice was the first sacrifice to the AI gods.
Unfortunate, but necessary.
Hans came on stage, but we never got to Hans.
Yo, what's up Hans?
How you doing, bro?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, we got you, bro.
Yes, sir, got you.
The boomer in the house.
You guys are all crazy, man.
Yeah, this guy just got done
paying for his groceries
with his checkbook.
But welcome to the AI conversation.
This is not the first revolution.
It will not be the last.
Getting in front of it makes no sense.
Anything you learn now will be obsolete in like six months or so.
I mean, been there, seen it.
People learned all sorts of programming languages
and now they're all gone.
You are like the generation that made its own website
and then was all proud of their own little website.
It's just bullshit.
As soon as there's real money to be earned, big money will step in and you're all gone.
That's what I was saying.
That's what I said.
There's going to be large entities that come in and just wipe everybody's ass.
That's in any industry though, right?
industry though right when you're when you're dealing with multi-billion dollar companies
you know what once they realize it's a profitable area to invest in or to take over they're going
to come in so my my stance is like fucking throw all your money in stocks with robotics and ai like
that's what i've been doing aggressively over the past year and a half it's been pretty good you
know invest in this shit invest in the big companies
well that's not to say that there won't be any opportunity for people that are
super early and super dedicated right like for me to get into it as a hobbyist i admit
feels futile but for a guy like juice who's like fucking hard focused on this right now
i think he's actually gonna probably come out quite ahead of the uh curve on all this right now. I think he's actually going to probably come out quite ahead of the curve
on all this, right?
Martin Zuckerberg has been in the first grade
when he was on,
when he built Facebook.
So to say that there will not be
some... Are you talking about when he stole Facebook?
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
He made it.
There was MySpace.
There was all of this different websites
and he made facebook these guys are pioneers bro like mark zuckerberg like what a fucking
wild dude bro to build that shit um just fuck man what else i was gonna say something else
okay you know we all got robbed of the eon musk Zuckerberg fight. That was going to happen, and then it didn't. And I don't remember why, but can we get back to that?
They should have that as the undercard in the UFC 250.
On the White House lawn.
Yeah, that would be pretty good.
What else did you have to say there, Hans?
I know everybody's talking over you.
Oh, yeah, they can talk over you.
Yeah, I mean, look at history. Yeah, you've got Zuckerberg history yeah you've got superbergen you've got musk and you got like
a dozen others but that was just a few thousand people if not millions that were trying
and they don't make it it's i mean it's a long show you can try it do whatever you want but
you're not gonna make it i would advise advise my kids to go focus on this shit now
because you're probably not going to make it.
Wait, you're telling me if I move to LA, I'm not going to be a movie star?
No, it's not right.
You're better off going to New York to be on Broadway.
You sound like you could fit into some tights, bro.
I'm wearing tights, what's good oh hey now
yeah it's like Hans
you seen the owner
they bought
AI.com for 70 million dollars
like they're gonna
fucking do something with that
probably yeah
I think so for 70 million
yeah and we're talking about spending
300 a month on fucking credits and shit and well yeah but i would also say this you know when big
money does come in hans like they are going to be looking for people who are you know on point with
the current tech to hire and shit too so even if you don't i agree even if you're not like necessarily
positioned to change the world by yourself is it's still changing way too much.
It's still unstable.
But somebody else next week,
the prompts will be gone and you will just have to talk to someone who
makes a prompt or whatever.
I can make it up,
but it's not the right thing you're learning now.
Whatever you're learning,
not the right thing.
This guy must really hate college then.
No, I'm with him on that.
I'm with him on that, dude.
I try and use one to do another prompt to get that one to make a prompt for this one to that one.
And it's like I'm running around in fucking circles asking for the perfect prompt.
And you can never get the perfect prompt because you never get what you want.
And then you end up spending the perfect prompt because you never get what you want. And then you
end up spending money on fucking
just endless prompts.
That's because it's not there yet.
Gemini Pro is good at prompts.
Man, if you give it the right format
and right goals
and right things like that, Gemini Pro does a
good job at creating
prompts to feed whatever.
You need to tell it what you want.
You need the brain dump.
And then you need to say,
ask me any questions
that would improve this shit.
Go ahead and give me 20 questions to answer.
That way you can help me.
So your AI now is better inrompting than you are probably.
Of course it is.
There's no point in learning that shit. Honestly.
It's good to understand how it works, but it's not going to be the interface of the future.
It won't be. Can't be. Impossible.
System design is more important to learn right now.
Like how the different pieces that the AI builds, like how, like, what do you need to do what you need to do?
It's not how you build it.
That's the, you're learning how to build something where how to build it is no longer irrelevant.
No, it's how they come together.
Yeah, no, it's not, it's not how you build the whole thing.
It's knowing for efficiency sake you
know what parts do you need you know that way you can prompt correctly and give the thing like this
is how like we want to do this do that but the how is the thing that is moving you should focus
on the what well and the what is yeah that's the i i think i i think i'm picking up what you're putting down because I think what a lot of these guys are doing is coming up with ideas and using the Claude thing to help them execute it, right? then you can build that app and then sell it to that person or that business, then, you know, you haven't wasted your time in learning how to, how to prompt the thing because ultimately it
built you a product that you successfully sold. Um, but I do agree with you that the landscape
is changing so quickly that whatever you learned today is probably not going to be relevant in a
year, but you know, it just depends on if you already have the idea or not. And then, you know,
just being able to, to negotiate the landscape of the uh
of the current tech is not unuseful and now listen to all the people that are working with
claw bot and shit they're all building the same thing a lot of them are a lot of them are just
building trading bots and stuff but that's not to say again that like you know if you find a niche
problem that some business has that you're aware of and you can solve that problem and then sell that piece of tech that your Claude bot created, then, you know, you've made money.
Sure, Kyle.
But if you have a great idea that solves someone's problem, you can always make money.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's true.
I guess it's just…
But it's how you do it, right?
If you don't have the technical skills or you don't know how to prompt, are you saying we should just wait until there's like a one click button that does like you just give it an
idea and then it just does it for you you know what i mean like that's gonna take there's gonna
be room for error well that's directly to my question earlier which was that you know is is
is learning to prompt the same as learning computer languages 10 years ago right it probably
is but that doesn't mean that a lot of people didn't make a lot of money
by knowing how to write computer languages when that was the cycle is speed up the cycle is now
way faster so when you learn the programming language 10 years ago you could use it for four
years now you can use it for three weeks yeah well yeah i mean it's like there's like you know shout
out to everybody that has been like grinding trying to build these clawed bots and shit and like you know you had to have at least
some sort of you know what you're doing on the computer and then as of yesterday or the day
before there's insta claw where it's 60 seconds you click like three or four buttons and now
you've got a molt bot ready to go running and active you know but that's the same exact copy
of a molt bot as everybody else like, where's your advantage?
You know, it's in how you're going to use it.
And in order to know how you're going to use it, you know, like you have to know like at its core, like what is it?
But a few months ago, people spent hours or not days on making that thing.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I mean, if you don't adapt, you die.
That's my point.
Yeah, if you don't adapt, you die. That's my point. Yeah, if you don't adapt, you die.
So at the end of the day, people were learning COBOL and all these shitty-ass languages that didn't make sense.
And then JavaScript came out.
And then after JavaScript, there's Rust.
If you're not adapting, you're dying.
Bro, you can make so much money with COBOL.
I know, right?
There's a very small niche of, yeah, I agree.
But you get my point.
No, the thing is, like, how many times have you used a butter knife as a flathead screwdriver,
right? Like, I mean, it's, those are the types of things where it's like, yeah, you know,
lefty, loosey, righty-tighty, right? And any agent and any bot can do that. They all know,
and they can make a screwdriver, you know, but ultimately, there's cases like that where it's
like, I don't have one, this where it's like i don't have one this
isn't working i don't have time give me the knife and i'll just take this screw out right and it's
like those are the weird fringe cases that like an ai work i mean again yeah i give it like by the
end of the year we'll have that figured out but right now like that's where the advantage is
it feels like it feels like the new pump fund just dropped but this pump fund is for the whole world
that's what it feels like um i don't know if it's for the whole world that's what it feels like
um i don't know if it's for the whole world yet it feels to me like it's almost more niche than pump fun right because you got like i see more i see less people granted this is a hot topic
right everybody's talking about this but there's probably right now less people success like
successfully building using clawed bots than webots than sending coins on PumFun.
It's a hot thing in a small part of a small part of a small part of the world.
It's nothing.
Don't make it big.
It's nothing.
Yeah, my parents still call it ChappieT.
at bt you know like they're we're so far from getting anywhere world
You know, we're so far from getting anywhere world.
yeah i think i land somewhere on this between hans and juice because i don't think it's nothing i
don't think it's irrelevant i i think that there is a lot of opportunity right now if if you have
a good idea and you can use the current tech to help you execute that idea and but you know i i
also don't i also don't think that everybody doesn't
have a job since six months either. Right. Like, I don't know. No, it won't happen that fast.
There's, there's, there's too many things that need human interaction where not every job will
just go away. You know, you gotta have, you gotta have that emotional connection, the,
You know, you got to have that emotional connection,
just the authentic, you know, connection of human to human, you know, interaction.
So they tried doing it, even with what I used to do for a living,
moving military families cross country.
They tried getting rid of the actual driver like myself.
And they were like, well, we're just going to use local guys to load it,
local guys to load it local guys
to deliver everything and we'll hire some freight driver just to bring the trailer across so they
were trying to save millions of dollars the government was and they ran that protocol for
like a month and it was an absolute fucking shit show because the customer had no relationship with one
person or one entity through the whole experience.
And you're going to always need that.
Like even us having these conversations,
like there's always going to be a need for podcasts and spaces and things like
to be able to have that human connection.
And if we don't if we fall
away from that then we're fucked even more i think yeah dude like a robot could totally make my coffee
but i want to get my coffee from someone with a nose ring and some pretty ambiguous gender
gender identities right like come on good job carl way to spend that just fucking
right back I'm surprised
Moon High didn't fucking appear in the request
right as you were doing that
Jesus Christ almighty
alright cool
we're going two hours Kenny's probably
having convulsions right now
fucking juicing them
took over the space with AI
it's a great conversation yeah it is a very
interesting conversation because the landscape is changing very quickly right so it's yeah 100
it's it's definitely noteworthy yeah for sure yeah 100 i'm not gonna give uh like i didn't give
access to my bot to be able to post on twitter for me because that's like one of the things that
i do want to still keep like me, right?
So like I do agree with you that like
as we start approaching this shit, you know,
and like AI does start taking over
like social media accounts and all this bullshit, right?
People just let it post for them.
Like there is going to be something very special
about you and your brand.
It's just about, you know,
I wonder if you'll be able to remember who like who that
person is you know you're like your your personal identity right as we approach those times yeah and
there's nothing wrong with using ai to help your brand or help you as a person or help you improve
yeah uh i encourage it you know use it as a tool bro that's what it is don't go overboard with this
dumb ass shit because it's not gonna go well oh is. Don't go overboard with this dumb ass shit
because it's not going to go well.
He just called all y'all stuff dumb ass shit.
Are you going to fitness still?
Yes, I am.
Yes, my legs are very so up.
My fucking legs are cooked.
Yesterday was leg day.
I'm telling you.
Yeah, I'm talking about
it was wild. We added a new guy to like in our
rotation of working out with us and this dude this dude is fucking intense and i mean this
dude benches like fucking 500 for sets of three and this dude is fucking an animal and this dude
was pushing us so hard yesterday uh on leg day like i mean, I was fucking... I left and I was completely
I hope he's in strongman
competitions or he's worthless.
It was fucking... It was good.
It was good. Now, he's one of the trainers over there.
He just starts
hopping in with us sometimes working out.
Big and goofy for no
reason. Some people just want to
be a fucking specimen big rug
skinny motherfuckers like you and me might have better shit to do but yeah some people want to
be a fucking specimen yeah yeah this dude's uh this dude's pretty legit but yeah i fucking broke
my ass yesterday uh but yes yes to johnny um i am am still at it down.
What am I at?
17 pounds down right now.
Let's go, bro.
Before we go, because I can sense the end of the space coming,
I see, I think you might have already done it,
but I just pinned it a little bit ago too.
Shouts out to Saigo.
He's in the space right now.
The last pinned tweet, bookmark that and go watch that today. Even if you just fast forward to the part of the actual film itself,
because I mean, that's a glimpse at what Mid Journey and everything could do
a couple years ago. And it is amazing. And I got to say, I'm truly excited to see what Saigo can do with more modern AI.
It's a really fun use of the IP.
It's a very creative story.
If you were ever a fan of like the Matrix or any of this, Scanner Darkly, any of this type of like future dystopian cyborg, if you like the cyberpunk anime or video game, if you're into anything like that, go check that out.
It's what, 15, 20 minutes? It it's like 13 minutes it's a good time so definitely check that out today if you guys got time um yeah that's all i got anyway cool all right well seems like kenny are you still
with us yeah i'm here all right okay just didn't know you checked out, bro. You got anything else?
Great conversation today, though.
I enjoyed the AI topic. It was good.
Yeah, it was. About time some motherfuckers come on stage and actually fucking talk about something.
Jesus Christ.
But no, we appreciate everybody coming in.
I don't know if I'm just going to keep
my abstract stream live the whole fucking time
so it never goes away.
But I finally got that bitch to come back.
They're going to fucking blacklist you for doing that is what they're going to do.
Well, I mean, fuck.
I'm just going to put on the thing as fucking fix your shit.
But either way, everybody have a great day and we will see you tomorrow.
Bye, everybody.