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Reality Check: XEET Marketplace
Recorded: March 4, 2026 Duration: 2:20:52Space Recording
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I'm so proud to try
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Round and round
My super sonic rocket ship
Let me take you on a little trip, my supersonic ships at your disposal if you feel so inclined.
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guinea powers
gm gm oh kp you already missed like two hours of streaming, buddy. Two hours.
We've been rocking it out.
Waking up way too late, dude.
This guy is not locked in.
I know.
I know.
But at least he's in before 1107.
GM Kenny Powers.
Wait, what's going on?
What's going on?
The Zee Marketplace went live this morning.
So we were on there streaming for the last, what, hour and a half I was on there with you?
You were streaming for like the last two hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I started streaming at not about...
I started streaming at about 8.30 this morning.
Honest question.
Yeah.
How's the two hours of content around a...
Ah, and Kenny's rugging.
This motherfucker ain't got fucking two minutes of content in his wi-fi
fucking router god damn boom um let me answer your question though kenny powers wait till he's back
wait till he's back we don't know if he's back yeah we got you now
so to answer your question this morning a new marketplace was born, Kenny Powers.
And some people want to, you know, watch a stream, see how it's going, see who's trading where.
There's a lot to talk about, you know.
There's a developing floors for various creators, various rarity tiers of cards.
A lot to speculate on. You've got a big kind of a USD-based marketplace on OpenSea versus a ZEAT-priced marketplace on the ZEAT platform.
Plenty, plenty to talk about, Mr. Powers. Plenty.
Plenty.
Motherfucker that spends 95% of the space on mute probably wouldn't know about that, though, huh?
I mean, you know, I don't have a whole lot of
information to weigh in on the subject so i just you know i'll let you boys do it yeah
somebody just bought a whatever man legendary for 0.1 eth uh are you doing any zits cards at all did
you get any yeah i got some i still have some z flipped over i got some cards I still have some Zs left over. I got some cards. But, I mean, it was just that one day when y'all were spinning.
When you took my 100 Zs from me, Kyle, thank you very much.
Oh, well, now, Kenny, if you want to get other cards,
you don't have to spin USDC.
You can go on Z.
Go on the Marketplace.
We have been there, like I i said for the last two hours
uh they've done 27 200 zeats in volume already a lot of trades happening a lot of things going on
one of the one of the posts i want to share or i did share at the top uh but we can talk about it
here and i don't can you put it in context for? How much does a common card go for in Zs?
It just depends who it is.
It depends on who it is.
I mean, the cheapest cards right now are about 40.
Okay.
The cheapest card is 42 Zs.
There's a bunch of them in the like 50 to 100 range.
But again, it's almost more important who the creator is and what the in fact not almost it
is more important who the creator is and how many tournaments they've participated in and all that
well what's telling to me is like how much are people valuing zeats at if they're paying 40
zeats for a common card let's say and on the usd side of things that common card is about two dollars
so people are speculating a five cent z roughly well so here's here's what i just now pinned at
top and whale you got to take him with a grain of salt he said i just flipped a common Jack Zeke card for 401 Zeke. He put in parentheses $1,255 USD profit in 58 minutes.
99 Zeke to 500 Zeke.
Thanks for playing.
How he's coming up with that, I do not understand.
Well, my math just kind of explained it, right?
If you go look at explained it, right? If you go look at seats, right?
Or if you go look at like the floor on OpenSea, the floor is 0.001 for a common, which is $2.13, right?
If somebody is selling a common for 40 seats, 40 into 200 is five, right?
And for 40 Zs, 40 into 200 is five, right?
So roughly people are valuing their Zs around five cents apiece.
If you just do the math, right?
Yeah, it sounds about right.
So it's interesting.
Right now the cheapest card listed is 42 Zs.
So in regards to the value on USD versus the the value on zits again it would be the cheapest
card on open sea is two dollars and 13 cents so what kenny's saying is between the two you can
you can do some math and figure the value of a z at least speculatively for right now okay
well i just got another teacher kat, a common. What the fuck?
44 zeats for that common Teacher Katie.
God damn it.
Yeah, fucking.
I am on a tear this morning.
God damn it, dude.
Yeah.
I've gotten some really good cards.
You got to pay attention.
People are just listening to get zeats because now they're not seeing the USDC value.
Kenny, they're looking at the cards.
They're looking at it as zeats
and they're like, oh, fuck, 40 zeats.
I can go spin that,
maybe flip it into something else.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm just doing the math.
That's it.
I'm not.
Yeah.
Shout out, Hans.
Thank you as always, sir.
You're a fucking legend. Yeah. Shout out, Hans. Thank you, as always, sir. You're a fucking legend.
Yeah. So it's really
interesting. Now,
let me go to the
sold section here.
And can you guess
who has the record for the highest
sale on Z or highest
purchase, Kenny?
You mean what creator has gotten the most Z?
Shout out again to Hans.
So we,
I started,
like I said,
started hosting this at eight 30.
I started hosting this at eight 30 this morning.
I was like,
I wasn't,
there was no,
nothing expected in return.
The team tipped us a few Z to,
you know, for us doing this.
Scotty was literally, let me tell you how fucking much of a legend this guy is.
He's literally doing updates as we're finding bugs live on the stream.
He sat in there for multiple hours watching him and Tully
as we're going through all this stuff.
Kyle gets a pocket full of Zeetz
and immediately goes and buys a rare Zeet card for 1,500 Zeetz.
That's right.
So now can you do the math on that, Kenny,
and tell me how much he paid for that in ETH value?
Almost.
Or US?
Almost.
So 40 is two.
So 120 would be six.
That's 60, like 75, 80 bucks.
Yeah, that's about right.
Yeah.
I bought, I bought a Miriam card yesterday, a rare one for about 60 bucks.
Uh, this was an Eliza card who arguably has even more timeline motion.
Didn't necessarily compete in, uh, as many tournaments, but look, she's signed up to be a Z creator.
She definitely gets a lot of engagement.
So, yeah, I copped that for 1,500 Zs and I relisted it for 2,950.
And I won't be surprised when it sells.
I hope it does.
You know, Kyle, expose the synths.
I like it.
Exactly.
Exactly, dude.
He's got his Gooner squad, he says, what he calls it, going hot and heavy.
That's right, dude.
That's right.
Yeah.
Now, and I'm going to tell people, if you see me trading your card,
whether I'm buying, whatever, it's like, especially if I'm selling,
I'm selling to make a play.
It's no knock on you.
I'm making fucking moves where I think the best squad's going to be.
Wait, are people doing that?
Getting pissed?
No, no, no.
I'm just saying, like, because I'm actively showing it.
Kyle was trying to buy cards, and he's like, oh, I think I'm going to buy this card.
And then the motherfucker got thrown.
Jesus cannot say that people are not getting pissed.
Because I distinctly remember live on stream earlier when one of his cards sold lower than he believed it should have
and he did get pissed.
60 Zs for a common cheese is fucking...
That's like...
Bro, that's $3.
What the fuck do you want, bro?
Bro, I was the number two creator on fucking Z at the time.
There's going to be people that are way bigger than me
that do way bigger numbers. I understand
that. Now that more and more people
are coming on. But
Dajani ended up buying it for 60 Z.
It's like... Now this is interesting.
Oh, did you see that Dajani lost
like nine packs because he listed them
incorrectly? Yeah. And I don't know how
he did that because, Joe's,
when you go to list
a card, there's two numeric values that you
can put in the first one is how many you want to sell and the second one is how much you want to
sell it for because and it starts at a default of one yeah i don't know how he accidentally sold a
bunch of packs because here's the problem if he had it's not doing them individually so he had five packs sold a bunch of uh packs a commons a commons so here's
what happened he listed all six he put his price he thought that's what they were going to sell for
each and it's not that he listed it for i think 600 zits or whatever he listed it for
and instead of them selling for 600 Zs each,
all six of them sold for that.
So you got to, you got to,
so like I sold two of these one creator's cards.
I think I had it listed for like two or 300 Zs,
but I knew I wanted that much for each card.
And that's what he, I wanted,
I wanted half of that for each card. And that's what he i wanted i wanted half of that for each card and that's what ended
up happening um so but to johnny thought it was going to sell for 600 each um scotty if you're
still out there watching any of the streams i just noticed that when i go to my deck and i go
to listed it's not showing the cards that i have listed that's not a huge big deal but they are
still listed i just went and checked in the marketplace they are still listed they just
don't show up if i go to my deck and filter for my listed cards it's just not showing them anyway
yeah uh nancy try and come back up i know you came up and went back down uh katie what's up
good morning i'm invested in you all right here's why i'm coming up thank you
i i was happy to watch your stream this morning it was very interesting i was going back and forth
between my computers trying to figure out what was on open c and what was on what was on z
so here and i've listened like in a lot of the streams and just one of my little one little
piece of advice because i know you keep looking for the people who've competed in tournaments
before i don't look at my stats because i haven't competed in a lot of advice because I know you keep looking for the people who've competed in tournaments before. I don't look at my stats because I haven't competed in a lot of tournaments
because I'm like a newer person to this, to putting myself out there. So I plan on
participating now. I just got monetized on X, so it's another incentive for me.
Let's go.
So don't look at my stats because you're looking at everybody's stats.
Like this is where they're saying,
find the diamonds in the rough because there's a lot of people who never,
there's so many new people that you have never seen before that have
probably not participated in Z before.
Right.
Well,
and that's to my point.
And that's what I,
that's why I bought your rare.
And that's why I bought your common.
I appreciate that.
I said the same thing,
was that you show up in all the captain spaces.
You show up in other spaces that I'm not in.
You're in back channels.
You're fucking active as hell on abstract.
A lot of brands on abstract
are going to end up coming into the Z tournaments.
So I'm going after those types of people.
So like when I see somebody bought a
ico beast for a half an eth i'm like man you could have bought so many other good creators
than spending a half an eth on a guy who is probably not going to join many tournaments unless
this tournament thing is something where he doesn't have to constantly share things on X or on
any other social media platforms.
Now it could end up being a good trade,
but like then when I seen your rare go for 300 seats,
I'm like,
this is a fucking steal.
Like people are sleeping on Katie because she shows up and she supports.
And that's what makes your squad strong.
I think is what's,
you know,
how it's going to play. Yeah. I is what's you know how it's yeah i think
there's going to be more to this than just your own engagement for sure which is why like the
bearish card is kind of interesting but yeah katie i agree the thing is i know you so i would have
bought your card in a heartbeat regardless of stats all these cards that i'm looking at their
previous history on their accounts that i don't i haven't seen before so it's the only thing i have
to go off if i look at a card and i look at their previous history and it's only a few
tournaments and I can see the dates of the tournaments and I know they're new,
you can tell if somebody's new to Z.
But if you see somebody and they've been in 15 different tournaments and all of
their tournaments are like 300 and 500 and 600th place and, you know,
2000th on the Zeet creator board,
I'm getting rid of your cart.
Why?
Because you've been on Zeet for over a year.
You probably were suspended, but then reinstated.
Or you were on there and you were literally spamming every single thing
and not putting dedication into one or two brands.
So I don't want those kind of people on my squad and
i'm not being ugly or rude or if you think i am sorry fucking hurt your feelings but i don't
make sense it that totally makes sense my other thing is we still don't know how this is working
we i swear i heard somebody say it's not going to be counted with a lot of different tweets so i don't know what the gameplay
is going to be yet nobody does i mean everybody's speculating right now and then not to mention
they showed that little screenshot of all the other platforms that they're going to be looking
at a lot of people are overlooking that as well so when you're getting your physique creator
make sure you look into what other platforms they're posting on
yeah I agree
are we talking about the marketplace
I have a few cards I want to sell
I have a bandit rare card
and I think I have
I'll give you 100 Zeke right now
for your bandit rare
what's that 2 common packs
I'll give you
500 Zeke for your bandit rare right now.
You tell fucking Jesus to take a long walk off the short pier, brother.
You're worth more than that.
Fuck this guy, dude.
He's trying to damn you right now, buddy.
Nah, bandit said burn them all last week.
So like, fuck, I'm at least giving the guy something.
No, don't burn them.
Send them all to me.
I'm collecting bandit.
Nancy, what's up? You have your hand up.
Thank you for having that up. We appreciate it.
don't want to tell
her name, but
I'll tell her. I totally
agree with an
idiot.
Very good.
It's an idiot.
Hold on. I want to get something straight. She said I don't
remember her name, but
I agree with an idiot. So let's
keep going. This is great.
Okay.
I totally agree with her.
I have
cards in my deck from people
who wasn't participated
in the past in Zid, but I know them from other
tournaments like Wallchain or in general I'm seeing their tweets, I'm seeing the community
they have, all the people who support them, so'm keeping those cards uh i was i'm i played
one hour ago i i bought a cheap card from open sea and then i tried to trade to sell to sell it in a Zit. And with this Zit,
I played spins
and I lost them.
and I lost them all the Zit.
So I give up.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Yeah, you gotta...
Don't worry, Nancy.
I have bad luck on the spinny-wheely thingy, too.
Yeah, they'll eat your fucking lunch.
What do you guys think a rare whale
card is worth in dollars?
A rare whale card?
We were kind of doing the math earlier, right?
I don't know if you heard it,
but I was basically looking
at the floor price and USD value
of a common, which is somewhere around $2.
And then a
common card in Z value is going for around 40
zeets which in turn would kind of based on that math about five cents per zeet is what the market
is kind of valuing zeet at right now so for a whale i'd say probably like 60 to 80 oh wait for
well the highest the highest even mind that this market has been open for about three hours so
the historical data points have not really developed yet but this is a good way to look
at it i'm not saying you're wrong it's just the subject to change well they have on open sea the
highest sale right now for a whale a rare whale card has been 308 16.16, 0.15. Oh, yeah, that was me, actually.
Sorry.
And right now, the floor is a half an ETH.
The highest sales that we've seen of any cards was ICOB stat, a half an ETH.
And there was another one at a half an ETH.
another one at a half an ETH. I can't remember
I can't remember who that person was.
who that person was. And then there's
been a bunch of other ones
that were sold for
below a half an ETH.
How much are you worth cheese?
Not a lot.
Well, here's a guy. How much did your comments sell for?
Well,
it's fucking
60s ETH. It was some
motherfucking name, so Joey.
So right now, you can get a rare cheeses or a common cheeses is listed at .035.
The rare is listed at .055.
And there's only one legendary.
It has a top offer right now, .25.
But that guy's not selling that motherfucker.
So did I do well selling a rare whale
for $308?
Yes.
I don't know.
Whale can just tweet about
one or two things a couple times and he'll stay
high ranked in probably some
good tournaments. I think you should have held it.
Wait, I have a random
min card. I don't know how the fuck I got
him. How much can I sell that motherfucker for?
Men's good.
Men?
Yeah, I would keep men.
I wouldn't try and sell it yet.
Oh, I'm already trying to sell him.
I know people want his body, so I'm like, give me some zeet, some zeet pour.
Goddamn.
What do you have, a rare or a common?
I got a common.
So it's not anything fancy, so just throw them out until I get something more fancy.
Well, a common, and this is the Min Dynasty card, 0.02 ETH is the floor there.
The rare is 0.175, and the last sale, there's only one of his legendaries was 0.165 i
mean so i'm trying to buy you and i'm trying to buy teacher there's a huge discrepancy though
right like there is from like just the common right you know not well-known ct influencer let's
say versus a highly regarded kind of like i think the discrepancy is so far
off like you can buy one for two or you can buy one for 300 what was it no 60 bucks like that's
uh well it depends on the common rare legendary so like if bandits saying he sold his whale for somebody sold a a min legendary
for .165 so like
you kind of got a ratio
and I think I don't know
my sale is looking good if I'm in
oh bro I just got a fucking FFV
for 150 fucking zits bro
let's go
nice
is the ICO beast
legendary sold for 0.5 if or the rare one no no no his Is the ICO Beast Legendary sold
For 0.5 ETH or the rare one?
No, no, no
His rare one
His legendary sold for half an ETH
For ICO Beast
Robin Hood
I'm so sorry what happened to your
Pax this morning
You were wrong
Scotty sent me 500
And after that Fo came to me and we have put together
uh the war and said we want peace and yeah you know what's funny is the johnny this is the same
motherfucker that came at you accusing you of copying his post on x and now you just bought all of his z packs
at a cost way less than what you should have next thing you know johnny's gonna superimpose
his picture of a fogo's card right
we are now in peace we are not good so so right right, you can get a common ICO Beast for .03 ETH, $63.
You can get a rare for .13 ETH.
And the one legendary is just not for sale anymore.
Wait, does Teacher have any cards listed?
If she does, I'm scooping.
I've been buying them all.
She's been buying them, dude.
Every time I fucking blank, he gets a teacher card.
I want a teacher card.
I'll trade you something.
Yeah, I've been buying all these fucking things.
Maybe I should do the same.
I have Katie, I think, a few times, actually,
because I have 230 or 240.
Stay away from her card.
It's mine.
I fucking want it.
I called it.
Do you have Zitz right now, Josie?
No, I don't.
You're cooked, motherfucker.
I don't know what to tell you.
You're cooked.
As I'm sitting here, I'm gambling with pawns 10 at a time because that's all I can do.
Oh, wait.
How did I get 110?
Who gave me Zitz? I have Zs!
So here's the thing.
You guys are earning royalties
on your cards if they sell on
Zs as well. Okay, sell me
motherfuckers, I need Zs!
So you're going to end up seeing that 8%
come to you.
So my
buys today, and they're all
been fucking steals
I got a
KD rare for 300
Zeats then I got a KD
Common for 44
I got a B rated common for 100
I got a Craig's coin purse
For 120
And then I got a tut for 48
Like but that's
Those are some good fucking cards for
Oh I sold Coin purse for 0.04
a rare coin purse really yeah a few days yeah see that you did pretty good on this uh i'm looking
at your card now you did pretty good in the mega weapon and the blanco uh tournaments um you got commons listed at 100 z right now yeah so when i when i enter dog up my
dog wants everyone to know that he's awake um whenever i do few tournaments i put my whole
heart in it and i like damn it i just keep getting interrupted today when i do the tournaments i just
try to make sure i pick a really good one that i like and i put my heart and soul in it because i don't like making crappy content to katie's point you
really don't know right how hard in the paint people are gonna go when these tournaments kick
off because like you know motivation like cheese brought up a good point yesterday ico beast really
doesn't tweet particularly about certain tournaments that much you could have some grinder just come
out here and fucking do 10 posts a day
about a certain tournament and do really well, you know?
So, I mean, there is value, you know,
you just don't know until the tournament start where the value is going to flow
to, you know? So.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And the one thing that I try to do when I make my content is like,
this is no diss to everybody.
Like everybody kind of does the same type of content where they showcase what they're doing i try to make a funny aspect around whatever the content is
so that it kind of like stays with you and then it kind of makes you like look at it a little bit
longer well i i know you'll shake actually i would say so i just bought a common jersey for 100 seats sorry go ahead Dijani
my actual tip to you
my actual tip
you should just grind
what I wanted to ask
yeah I don't know what I wanted to ask
he just interrupted
just to interrupt
he heard me start talking he said now's my shot
let's go
just fucking coming in hot let's go to to Katie and then we'll go to Nancy.
So what are the things I did this morning?
I heard you guys talking about bearish and I wanted to pick up a bearish card and I thought to myself,
now is the time to pick it up.
So I picked up a bearish card for 20 bucks this morning off open C because we don't know what they're going to do either.
This is their thing. So maybe
it's worth something.
See Kyle, I gave you a $20 value, bro.
Kyle sent me some fuck.
I don't even know what the fuck you sent me.
Teacher, your common card is 400
seats. What the hell? I can't buy
you. Really? Yeah.
I think Jesus raised the floor.
Who did it? Somebody's listening to this space and is like, I'm going to take all those seats. I think Jesus raised the floor. Who did it? Somebody's
listening to this space and is like, I'm going to take all those
seats. I don't even have 400 seats.
Joke's on you. I'm telling you
it's a sleeper card and these
are the people you got to look out for.
I've listed Jade.
You what?
I have listed Jade
and I think Bandit should go and
buy it. Oh, Jesus Christ Johnny
This is not at the space to shill your listings in effort. Holy shit. Jesus
Go to Nancy here. The only thing we're still in here is Toshi.bet
patiently waiting
Go to Toshi.bet. Johnny's fucking shameless shills. What's up Nancy? Go ahead
Okay, so I don't know if it's important to check the other squad when we are buying a
card. For example, if I'm gonna buy Kate's card, if I must check the squad, the people who are
holding their card, she's got her card, sorry. I don't know if this is important. And I saw in the morning people argue because
they gave their card one by one to the friends and then the friends sold the cards and they are arguing etc. It's crazy! Are you talking about Dijani?
Are there people selling cards?
No, I have Dijani's card!
I have his card!
I'll tell you what, Dijani will do anything!
I have your rare card!
Oh yeah, I have a real comment that he gave from the free ones.
Okay.
And don't forget the space we are.
I heard yesterday in a space that some people,
maybe they're going to sell and buy cards to be in Twitch as a big sale, etc.
So be careful with those sellings.
It is an interesting point that you made, though,
about looking to see who is holding whose cards, because we don't know how this eco is going to work.
And the way that the squads form could be one of the sliders to take into consideration on the value of these cards.
I don't know how to speculate on that exactly because we just don't have enough information about the ecosystem yet.
But that is very possible that that could be a relevant data point. I just, I don't even, I don't know exactly what to expect for how the,
how this is all going to work still. Yeah. I would imagine that the people that are holding
your cards are going to be the people that are in your squad. Correct. Well, for right now, look,
showed me this morning how to switch it to auto enable
right your squad so that anybody that's holding your card is in your squad or whatever you can
toggle that back to manual though so people can be very selective about who is in their squad
but then they're gonna just cheat your card and then not support you where however the support
system works within the the tournaments maybe but if
you're a desirable card to be held then you won't have any trouble getting picked up on secondary
by you know people who do want to hold your card that we don't know right um yeah that's some wild
way to bully each other with z is like you can't be in my squad even though you hold my card
yeah when you guys around from fantasy Top, there was actual bullying going on
from these guys buying your card.
Yeah, it's true.
They were threatening
people on a timeline about,
you need to get more active, motherfucker.
Why are you not tweeting more?
They were going hard at people
for not tweeting.
Does the royalties get paid out
on Zs or USD?
On the Z platform, they get paid out in Zs or USD? On the Z platform,
they get paid out on Zs.
On the Z platform is where
you're going to be able to claim your USDC.
It's not live yet,
but there's a button right there
that's just grayed out. What do you mean? Are they rewarding in
Zs or USD? Right now,
if your card... If it sells on OpenSeas,
you get money. Gotcha.
Yeah. If it sells on Z, it's automatically sending you the Zs automatically.
So if your card sells 20 times and you don't even go on Z and look,
and then your Zs will be just adding up.
Like right now, there's a cheap Raj.
And many people don't know who Raj is.
Raj is on the abstract team.
It's 44 zeats.
Is Raj a good buy?
I have a Raj, but is Raj a good buy?
Because he's not going to be tweeting about a lot of other brands.
He's not going to be posting about a lot of other brands.
How do the tournaments work as far as what does it gauge on X?
While Raj is a good person in the space,
is it necessarily a good card to hold but
again it comes i sold him for 20 bucks
once again to johnny it's your space buddy sorry kenny sorry about my friend to johnny who can't
control himself at all go ahead sir really it comes down to oh fuck i forgot what i was gonna
say yeah dude he has that effect. I'm telling you.
Even if Raj is active in some of these tournaments, I think he's going to play from the downside,
not from the creator side.
So you're going to have people that play this game from both sides.
One is the leader of their squad,
and then they have their squad beneath them.
Then they're doing whatever the the objectives are in the
tournament for whatever brand they choose with no context to how the scoring system is going to work
you know like how do you value things like you don't necessarily know is it based on impressions
is it based on the number of posts regarding a certain thing because it's not necessarily
you know impression based based on zeet's last season, right?
Well, it can't be because they got reinstated and had meetings with X
and told them their plan where that way they wouldn't get their account banned
because they're not allowed to scrape the API like that anymore.
It's back to InfoFi, and that's what they're not wanting.
Yeah, but look, somehow or another another they're going to have to measure what i keep calling motion whatever that means right the nebulous idea of how much can an ex-creator convert people to
whatever the tournament is for right so however they go about doing that you know you can still
kind of base that off of
the engagement that they do get currently how effective they'll be as a creator i think we'll
see more referral based systems things like that based on what we're seeing right um i would say
that you know them building their own marketplace is good they're also going to build a place where maybe you slap your URL from your
Twitter.
I can see that. People need to engage
on it on the Zeep platform, not necessarily
the Twitter platform or the X platform.
Oh, that would be interesting.
If you can post your
tweets in your squad hub
and then there's the
button there that will
send the like and the retweet or the engagement or whatever to X.
That could be.
That could certainly be.
What I think they're doing here, because the interesting thing is when you go to, now hear me out on this.
This is kind of like probably not right.
You want to start this with imagine?
No, we're not. I don't use that word anymore.
Thank you very much.
I got drained of that word.
So when you go, and I'm sharing this live on stream,
when you go to your squad, you see your squad chat.
You have open calls, tournaments, members, then settings.
When you go to the settings, this is specifically linking a telegram group so
this is where they either you're going to create your own telegram squad i think they are going to
be using some type of a zeep bot within telegram where it's going to possibly be picking up all of
the social sites that are active so whether you're like you're
going to be able to like link multiple social accounts through this telegram bot that could
possibly give all of your content a home there uh did i just i see a zeep zeep bot coming on telegram
something something like why have why specifically just have a linked telegram group i
don't i hope not i fucking hate telegram dude it's like my least favorite app that gets involved in
all this massive crypto yeah and it says right here message bridge sync messages between squad
hub and telegram so i just i don't know i don't know if there's going to be something involved there
where we see some big movements happening inside of Telegram
with the way they're going to do this.
Do you think they're going to make us make our own Telegram groups?
Because I'm about to do that.
Possibly.
Yes.
There's a link in there that you can send messages in Telegram.
You can link it.
You can link the squad chat
your squad chat on zeet with your telegram squad chat that's kind of scary though because dude
so many fucking scams happen on fucking telegram bro yeah but you can do all kinds of shit i'm
just saying that yeah but you can buy cheap bots that that manage all that i'm just gonna speculate
that they're putting that there as an option because they know a lot of people are telegram native i'm gonna hope that it's not
a necessity because i am with you josie i don't like telegram at all uh but we'll see you know
i mean i wouldn't throw my hands in the air about something we're just speculating on here
uh you guys are telling me there's a chat right now that people can text me? There is a squad chat.
Yes.
Let me see if I can actually send a message.
What was that?
Frentech?
Remember, you said if you own people's keys,
you could go into their private fucking chat
and talk to them directly.
And be ignored by them
because they're mostly just on X anyway.
Yeah.
All right.
So I just now sent a message anybody
holds my card go see in your go see if you see this message like pop up in your
in your in your shit where would i even see that pop up though i don't know
so like let me go to my squad hub maybe maybe it'll i don't think it would show up there how would i go to see other people's
well you're a i don't know you're a you're a holder of my card so go in i am but i it's not
in my squad hub so i don't know where the hell else i would even go and look for it go like click
on my thing i don't know maybe i don't know i don't know tournament Maybe? I don't know. I don't know.
Tournament, blah, blah, blah.
Nope. Nope. I mean, when I go to your card,
it literally just shows your tags, thinker, creator,
engagement farmer. It shows all the
tournaments that you participated in, and it
shows your recent vibe, which
is like the AI-generated thing
about you at the bottom. That's all that
shows on your card.
So I don't know how I would even get to that.
I don't think they can.
Right now it says squad chat.
Connect a token-gated social channel
for your squad.
Bridge your Telegram group
so cardholders can coordinate campaigns,
share ideas, and chat
all synced with your squad hub.
So I have a feeling
Telegram's going to be a necessity here guys um what's up nancy
okay okay first of all i'm seeing the johnny um message in his squad and i don't know if he can
see my message i reply how did you how did you get to that message? Okay, perfect.
When you are in your profile, at first, you must go to the squad hub
and then go to settings.
And from settings, you must press above the auto holder access.
above the auto holder access. When you put this, all your
holders, all your card holders will be automatically in your
squad. Right. Okay. Otherwise, they must request to join. And
you must select one by one to join. So this is very easy to
all your card holders can be automatically in.
And when you press squad chat, of course, you can send everything.
You can talk with your card holders.
I just sent a message in Dijani.
I don't know if he can see it.
Hold on.
Here comes Scotty now.
I just now sent a message
hello squad and like nobody's responding so uh scotty what's up bro how we doing gm
gm what's going on oh nothing scotty you're a busy man this morning huh dude you are
iterating very quickly i gotta say dude much, dude, much respect. No, no, I actually just woke up.
My AI, my open claw,
is actually doing all the responding and work.
Holy shit, dude.
Well, your open claw has been stuffing zeats
in my asshole all morning,
so make sure to tell it thank you from an idiot.
Yeah, it's been trained on all my tweets
for the last four years,
and it just responds now, so it's pretty cool.
Let's go. go wait hold on okay so i'm on my profile page how do i see my chat
yeah because i i nancy i gotta say i did all the stuff that you just described i had already done
that in the settings and everything but i'm still not i don't i still don't know how to see where
like jesus's message in his squad help was. Go to the top right, brother.
Oh, hold on.
Honestly, it's going to be a lot easier than like this stuff that's out now is more for.
Oh, oh, this has got all the different squads that I'm in.
So I can go to Jesus's squad hub from the drop down menu in the top right.
Yeah.
Somebody just now.
Yeah.
This is Shagrith, I think.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep. Yep. Yeah. Just responded to me. So. Yep. And I just did too. Yep. Okay. top right yeah somebody just now yes this is shagrith i think yep yep yep yep yeah just
responded to me so yep and i just did too yep okay that's where it is top right hand corner
there's a drop down menu okay scotty i have a question is telegram going to be mandatory
because some of these boomers up here don't like telegram no no no yo i'm not a boomer
i'm just the second oldest monk up here behind Kenny.
I don't even want to hear that shit from you, bro.
I am just asking.
Just asking.
Well, Bandit's like 62, but go ahead.
So I think...
I don't know.
I think Telegram's a good chat platform.
And it's on...
People have the app on their phone.
And I didn't want to recreate an entire chat app.
It doesn't make sense.
So, I mean, we have the native chat,
but I think as it evolves,
more people will use Telegram and or Discord
or we'll probably connect all of them to be honest.
So it's an option, but not necessary,
but just a good tool for the chat.
So I don't have to make a channel on Telegram
for my holders or whatever?
No, you don't have to.
I would say...
Actually, I'm not going to say anything else.
Come on, man!
Hold on, hold on.
I don't want Scotty Rage quitting this soon
here today.
He had to leave yesterday.
So let's go to Monica.
She has a hand up.
Monica, welcome up.
And I did snipe a comment of yours this morning because I didn't have one.
I greatly appreciate it.
Yeah, no, you're out here.
You're killing it.
So go ahead.
So I did send a message on my squad.
I have a question.
So I have cards for a number of people, but I don't see their squads.
Is it that they have to launch or make their quad?
I've requested for a couple,
Scotty, or how does it work? Yeah. So I just found it a second ago, Monica. Well,
he just told me about it, right? So if you go to your squad hub in the top right-hand corner,
there's actually a dropdown menu where you can scroll through all the other squad hubs
of people's cards that you're holding. Like where your PFP is.
You may need to go to settings first and enable holder access.
I think that's probably just giving people access to yours, though.
So you should have access to anybody who's already turned that on,
and you should be able to get to their squad hubs through that drop-down menu.
Yeah, but I look at that menu.
So, for example, I'm looking at Audrey,
and I click on hers, and it says user not found.
So I'm in her squad, but she's not found here.
So I don't know if it's still a little bit of...
I mean, some of the...
We haven't talked about the squads much publicly,
so I kind of wanted to give people a taste.
So here's the time scott here's the
time scottie just come on and tell us a little bit give us a little taste see you're not baiting
me i'm drinking my coffee i'm i'm awake now we're gonna dive into this in a little bit
just yeah brush it over my lips a little bit dude just you know get your bot in here let him talk
yeah hold on scottie are we talking like did you just pop a cake cup in and it's Keurig
Are you pressing your own coffee
Colombian what are we drinking there
You got some Baileys in there
I don't do cake cups I'm not in an office
Okay
I got just I don't know
Old school
Like Folgers in a tin can
I go Dunkin Donuts
I got the Dunkin Donuts
brand I don't know
I'm not a coffee guy
I just drink whatever it is
and if it's black it's better
I'm not in an office either but a K-cup
is a whole lot easier than wasting a whole pot of coffee
I go through probably 12 ounces
or whatever
locked in dialed in um i like it
but i mean i'm gonna tell you we've had a lot of fun we've been like i said i went live at 8 30
this morning the marketplace looks great yeah i mean it really does it's this is this is really
well done um i've been on marketplaces that have been like not to be a futter but just as an example
of something that i think is extremely difficult to navigate when i've been on the fidgetals
marketplace a bunch of times it is the most impossible fucking thing to navigate uh and
it's been around forever like iterate already dude you guys have made and this hit the floor
with already easy to use filters already easy to navigate
a couple of bugs that literally got addressed within like an hour um you guys are killing it
dude you guys are absolutely killing it yeah i appreciate that you know what i did i uh i took
like uh screenshots of every platform i just told open claw to uh to make the best marketplace
fucking crazy, dude.
I'm such a LARP, dude.
Scottie, I know you're putting more effort into this than that,
but I appreciate your fucking humility, sir.
I do appreciate it.
Scottie, I do have a question.
This is from Hans in my abstract chat.
Any clue how you can get into the squads if you are not a verified creator you just got to hold the cards
right yeah hold the cards and request access right i think yeah you have to request access
to unless the creator puts on auto approval and then if you just have the card you can get access
nice okay good stuff um yeah the one the one thing i don't know if we're doing yet is like
blocking people from being able to join squads if
they have a card we've kind of talked about it uh i think there's some reasons for that um but we'll
see kind of how it plays out yeah what if i have like a stalker and i need to block him yeah i mean
that's definitely uh more of a girl problem i don't think she's gonna have a stop come on bro
it's true it is a girl problem though
unless she is somebody likes your voice
because I think
there will be a lot of female creators
and I think they'll probably
succeed in our blast
Scotty's blasting
my daughter's already told me I have no riz
Scotty's think an idiot's
strategy of the goon squad
is a good strategy?
Oh, 100%. When he said that, I was like, oh,
sims are...
Even myself, I would say
I've been buying.
I literally just moments
like literally five minutes ago, I bought a
Hannah Hughes card for 69 seats and then
relisted it for like 200.
I'll give you some insights to some of the data, too.
So like a lot of the folks that had, you know, we found a lot of folks with fake engagement.
The ones that were flagged that were not fake engagement were typically females.
So they typically had just like super high engagement rates.
high engagement rates. And so I always had to un... We basically had to tweak the algo that we had
to basically ignore females if we had identified them because a lot of their engagement was just...
What about royalties, Scott? Is that like in real time or is it weekly?
So we'll do it as close to real time as possible for the actual youth in USDC. I mean,
so basically what will happen is sale
happens on open sea goes to our vault and then it gets distributed as a claim pretty much instantly
when that happens the only thing the only reason why it's not live yet is because we need to test
it out a bit more is that already sorry which slave am i buying is is that already being
like so we've seen ICOB
it's sold for half an ETH like is all
that money already being separated now
or is that something yeah yeah it's already
I mean you can look at the royalties well
so okay so what
we actually wanted and OpenSea just
doesn't support this yet so limit breaks
protocol allows you to
set royalties at the card or or token id level and we had a plan to do that but open c didn't
support it so now we have to do this kind of off-chain claiming system instead um but in an
ideal world if you had bought ico's card it would just instantly send it to him and i'm gonna tell
gabe to call open c and tell him to wake the fuck up is you should joda i've been we've been i've been i've been trying to ping him
oh wait oh wait oh dead ass you actually are you having issues with uh this is gonna sound
that fucking retarded but gabe's one of my investors so it's very easy for me to reach
out to him do you actually do you actually need me to reach out to him i think i think it's more
of an open c issue like i think i know but like he but he's very scary so like i can get him to call them i mean at this point we already released
but yeah i think in the future that would make sense to have um i mean all right i'll let him
know it's more i don't know how complicated it is on the open sea side right because they have their
whole protocol with scotty i don't know so is how easy to do this for them is the plan to leave
trading open on open c and the the Zee marketplace as well?
Yeah, for sure.
I think what will also happen, and it's just not there yet, is we'll pull in OpenSea's APIs and show the offers and whatnot.
And then you can click directly to OpenSea.
We probably will not do native ETH or USDC on our side.
We'll just leave that to Openc they do that better um for zeats it will be on our side though so that was one of my things that i was asking for
early on in the stream today uh will you guys integrate offers in zeats uh to be determined
okay it's not as easy as again again open c has been around for years
they've mastered this stuff um and it there was quite a bit of a complication just because we're
off-chain seats to on-chain transactions um the offers part is a bit complicated okay now i notice
every time we do one of these i mean there's a transaction happening on abstract uh yeah yeah
yeah that's that was purposeful okay and currently right now are like this past week did were zeke
cards eligible for abstract xp or is that something still not worked out yet um i think sygar and or
beans who handles that stuff is aware i'm not sure if it's actually live yet, though.
Okay.
Sometimes it usually takes them a week to index this stuff,
and then it goes like the following week.
And get it live.
Yeah, because I know that's a big thing.
I mean, there's people that are holding several hundred of these,
and once that goes live, I think people are now then going to be able to tweet.
That's another bonus because not only are they making money on their royalties,
they're making money by trading cards.
They're going to be making hopefully some type of return within tournaments.
But then now you're also getting a massive amount of XP for holding,
you know, a buttload of NFTs.
So is that what you want or is that what?
Well, no, that's what everybody would want.
I mean, in your in in a Saigar said you want or is that what well no that's what everybody would want i mean in in your in in a sygar said you want on-chain transactions and scotty just said it was purposeful for them
to make these transactions go through abstract so every card you're buying whether it's on zeat
or on open c if you're buying through your abstract wallet you're you're getting transactions
happening on chain and that's where the rewards come in at so all right let's go to hands real quick uh we'll
go to shiba real quick then we'll go to teacher monica bandit and then carlito came up yo yo
got me can you yep got you cool cool uh my question was kind of like hans um but also because i'm not certified i've applied
right and i can't seem to find the creator hub i'm on mobile i don't know if maybe it's because
i'm using mobile metamask i i mean i would just say you guys should always be using a laptop
whenever you're doing it like it's just a way better experience across the board. Is Scotty still up here?
Scotty, should he be able to see that on mobile?
If you are a Z-certified creator, you should have a hub.
If you're not a certified creator and you hold a card of a creator,
you'd be able to see their hub, even on mobile.
Where would you see it at?
I can't seem to find it.
Yeah, I mean, I purposely made it not as clear. Easy to find it yeah i mean i purposely made it um not as easy to find yeah hans is saying
it's not a mobile yeah the thing is the feature itself was just like i i put it out there just
so people would talk about it it's not actually um i mean it is ready for use but it's not
it's not a visible button click to go into the live like oh if you came across it people would
talk about it you know the whole marketing thing but eventually there'll be just a squads page and
you'll be able to see everyone's okay that's in a squad and navigate a bit easier but for now
you'd have to go to the profile of the user and there's a little button that says squad hub
underneath their avatar and then it'll take you to the squad hub page okay yeah or you can go to
your own squad hub as we discovered a minute ago if you just go to your profile the squad hub button is right underneath
your pfp this is on obviously on my on laptop or pc or whatever once you're in the squad hub there
is this drop down menu in the upper right hand corner and i can go down through and before uh
before jonah says this yes it is like frintrentech from that Yo, that's what I said
I'm driving, I wasn't saying anything
I was just thinking about what Bandit would be worth
I'd like to buy him
Bro, Bandit got Weeth a
I'm just going to rub his head
A common got Weeth
or it got sold for 20 zits
and then it was sold for
87 cents
I want to buy one of these creators and make them like a coffee table
They have to like sit prone and I can just set my food down and watch TV and kick my foot up.
All right.
Let's go to.
The inner slave owner of me is coming out.
Oh, my God.
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
Yeah.
I was about to take it even.
Yeah, but there's plantations there.
There's a school called Plantation High
and they're the best football players, which is hilarious.
Shockers.
Yeah, shockers.
Let's go to Monica real quick and then
we'll go to teacher Josie and then Carlito.
Well, first, Scotty,
I hope Abstract is giving you guys a grant
or something. It's probably the most
used Abstract chain has had in a while.
Not to criticize abstract, but
you guys are killing it. Yeah, win a Bears badge
bro, or a Blinko badge, or a
Zeet badge, or a fucking something.
But Scotty...
Half the apps on abstract. Exactly.
Win a Scotty badge.
So I don't know what I did.
So I had 50 seats.
I bought a Holly card, and now I have
negative 100 seats. So I have no idea what I did. Did I a Holly card and now I have negative 100 seats.
So I have no idea what I did.
Did I just break your platform?
You have negative seats?
Negative 100.
Holy shit.
Like all Web3 tech, there's that would be issues.
But let me take a look.
If you have negative seats, that's probably a bad sign.
Yeah.
Well, I have negative seats, but it's from a different...
Basically, I'm at two seats. that's uh that's probably a bad time yeah well i have negative zeats but it's from a different i
basically i'm i'm at two zeats i had 40 couple zeats left and then i fucking spun the wheel with
gmb and lost twice in a row now i'm cooked again but that's all right i've got cards listed
i don't you worry dude the gooner squad's gonna pay me well oh my god um all right let's go to
the uh goonersie, what's up?
Or no, she's not a Gooner.
She might be the number one Gooner, dude,
if you've ever seen the comedy he puts out. I'm a certified Gooner.
She's got the glizzies in her hands, so go ahead.
Have you seen some of the stuff I say in the back end?
It's like, holy shit.
But what I was going to ask Scotty was,
am I going to be able to convert honey into zeats?
Because I have a lot of honey
and I need some zeats.
That'd be interesting.
Yeah, I mean, you can...
Well, there's no plan to do that, but you can convert your honey to bear.
Oh, yeah, I'm going to do that
100%. I need more bears.
Co-host
privilege.
I have...
At the top of my deck,
if I go to my profile,
then go to my deck.
Wait, how much is the video worth?
Not much.
Not much yet, buddy.
At the top right-hand corner,
I have a Z trade tab,
and it says one,
but when I click on it,
it literally just takes me to the marketplace
where all the listings are. So I don't know what that's supposed to mean
wait what say that again so if i go to let's see here if i go to what do i got to do profile
and then my deck right oh now the one's gone there's a tab that says z trade at the top right hand corner of all
the cards that you have it's a shortcut for the marketplace is that it's not yeah i just did it
too it's just a yeah well a second ago mine said one and it almost made me feel like someone was
offering a trade is there a uh do you see uh like a utility for people to be able to swap cards with
each other yeah i mean i don't know
i don't know how you would get the royalties out of that right i mean i had an idea this would be
pure dgen but did you ever um did you ever do csgo gambling back in the day oh yeah yeah like
so there's a couple sites like uh one of them was like csgo reaper um and this is probably like 10
years ago at this point but before it got banned um but yeah they
had the ability to you know do do inventory versus inventory flips now i think when the market has
value there's some there's some interesting things we can do there that's like battle with uh instead
of a deck of cards you're playing battle with zeats or yeah even just something have something
as simple as like fucking go fish. And, you know.
Yeah, problem is there, like CSGO,
we probably need to make sure everyone's at least at gambling age.
Actually, there's probably other legal things we have to worry about, too.
Well, my thing is, is like a lot of people that were pissed at Zed or they're still pissed at Zed or whatever their thinking is here,
which I think is dumb anyways.
There's 28,361 total cards right now.
And there's only 2.6% listed, 736.
That's fucking, that is insane, bro.
Like that listing amount is wild to see that.
So people are holding onto these cards.
They're collecting, they're waiting.
So it's going to be interesting
to see how this goes uh let's go to carlito real quick and then we'll keep rotating around
how's it going brother good good i beat you a couple times in some wheel spins but
uh you took my ass a few times as well so yeah that Yeah, that's an interesting choice of words anyway.
Hey, bro, you always got to go that direction.
Sorry, Carlito, go ahead.
No, no, let's not get it to the wheel spinning.
That definitely wasn't my luckiest moment,
and you were not the only one ripping me off my Xeeds.
But, I mean, listening to what you were saying earlier
and also from other people I've been talking to,
I'm surprised, to be honest, there is no official mention of Xeed on the abstract site,
no backing, no batch. If you do X, Y, Z on the site, what the fuck is going on?
Why is abstract not officially backing Xeed?
I don't know if Scotty's going to answer that.
Scotty, you got an answer for that or no?
Actually,
no, I don't have an answer for that.
The answer I have for it is...
That's good PR training.
The answer I have...
It's by far the biggest thing
happening to them in months, right?
So the very least you would expect is some
kind of public support backing. Hey guys, this is going on on abstract, swap cards, buy cards, go crazy, I don't know,
something like that. Even on OpenSea, if you go to OpenSea right now and go to collections and
then turn the abstract filter on, Zeet cards are the number one in volume and Zeet packs are the
third in volume. But if you just go to the open sea home page and go to the abstract stuff without going into the collections tab it's not even
showing on open sea which is kind of strange yeah but uh verish is one two three four six right now
i just bought teacher i found your card i just had to let you know i bought you
here's the here's the problem carlito is back in the day you know last year when finn was still
here all the shit all the drama kicked off and sygar and them said we're no longer going to be
supporting uh brands tokens like constantly like pumping them i guess in a way like they're they're
putting tweets out making new announcements of new brands coming but then
it seems like after that they're not really pushing any one particular brand in any direction but
i agree with what you say and i do think scotty and the team uh get overlooked a lot because of
the things that they do for everyone in general so not just that but they just got done saying
how much they want to promote all these you know it's all about transactions and on-chain transactions now i mean for these cards
are you know at a fucking one dollar floor to be number one in volume there's a fuckload of
transactions happening i mean let me i mean just to just to back this up here for for a second and
honestly scotty i feel you i've heard from a lot of founders building on abstract that there is literally little to no support
and you have to put down your pants
three or four times and do
explicit stuff before you do XYZ
with you
abstract might be for me actually
let's go
I'll bring some clarity to it after you're done
yeah
I appreciate it
are you done?
yeah yeah no I'm doing it.
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm done running.
No, no, no.
So, Abstract actually does do a lot more behind the scenes than,
I mean, I definitely have heard the stories about founders having problems with Abstract.
I have been lucky enough to not really have that issue,
because Berish launched literally day one on Abstract, and I've been a huge supporter for the past year and probably like and I'm probably exaggerating when I say half the daps and abstract were helped by me and folks that I know um but
it's it's not far off like we actually like I've helped you know final bosu, Kabu, like pretty much every NFT project that was significant, I would say,
had a little bit of either advisory from us or actually just wrote their smart contracts for
them. And we have a really strong connection to Mason and a lot of the devs, myself. So they give
a lot of support there. Like I personally have, I would call it privileges to launch things faster on Abstract than other founders just because we've already built so much.
But from a pure, actually, I won't talk about a grant side, but yeah, they do a lot more behind the scenes.
They just are not publicly saying, you know, go do stuff on this platform anymore because of the issues they had in the first year, I think.
Yeah, that makes sense. platform anymore because of the issues they had in the first year i think that'd be yeah and that's
that makes sense because there was you know look in the earliest days i think they were very smart
to promote things because abstract as a whole had a big account but a lot of the new stuff coming out
didn't and you know they were they were a new developing ecosystem but at a certain point you
got to let things stand on their own legs and they made that shift and it might have been a little
uncomfortable for some folks but i don't really personally think they could have done it
much better than they did um so you know whatever yeah but a lot of this also goes to
the support that creators if you're a certified creator and you're not at least putting once a
week a post out about fucking zeet then like, what are you even doing?
Why'd you even apply?
Like you,
you all,
you also can make content around Z that helps push the brand.
Carly,
do I understand what you're saying?
Abstract pushing it.
I've asked for support from,
for the streamers,
all kinds of stuff.
And,
you know,
it's just slow going.
So we'll see how they how they
handle it um somebody in the chat said they publicly promoted ticker big and that blew up
in their face uh they went sky after that so or shy after that there we go uh so yeah that's and
that was back in the day that was the kind of the stuff i was referencing and then yeah look i mean that was very early it was like you know like it or not
everybody on chain wants a good fucking ponzi to try to you know pillage or whatever uh and i had
a lot of fun with the big thing in fact they i think everybody had enough fun that there was
several derivative projects after that on various other blockchains that that brought a meta back around for so like you can be mad that they and by the way the promote
is an interesting word right like just fucking interacting with something on the timeline
following an account or something like that i i guess even i'm always going on about button
clicking accountability and if you got rugged
on something on chain it's because you didn't do your own research i'm sorry i'm sorry but if you
fucking read anything you knew that bitcoin was a ponzi and that you know that you knew you knew
the gate you should have known the game you were playing yeah but a lot of that uh also like the
abstract community page could put out posts
once a week, top volume for this week, blah, blah, blah. These NFTs, these brands,
top transactions, you know, but then people are going to be saying, Oh, well,
you know, most people think that all the XP you get is from the top transaction or top volume
collection. So they start buying into those and then they don't get the XP they want.
It's like, you're never, you're never going to do things right to please everybody and um you know
so you just gotta you gotta go with your gut and your your flow and what the way the the team is
wanting to send it so either way i'm happy uh the way zeet's going this this new iteration. Bandit, what's up? Yeah, what up, Bandit?
I just wanted to flex a bit.
There it goes. I think to the top,
someone with a lot more free time than me
checked who's been minting the most.
And number one minter of seed packs
is actually me.
Is it? Hold on.
Yeah, happy to provide liquidity to the ecosystem. i hope i get a big airdrop for
my contributions bandit bandit i think minting all of those cards definitely takes more time
than just researching who's the biggest minter so maybe i'm number nine on that
you know what you know what that tells me is you didn't have a lot of seats, so you had to open a fuck ton of common cards
because I think I remember you saying how much of a pain in the ass
it was to do them one by one.
No, I literally max minted every single rarity.
So even if you gave me a million seats, I can't mint anymore
because I've opened everything I can.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't do any of the commons.
I think I did like four or five uh but i max minted everything else yeah i i got really
unlucky apparently i only got one legendary out of all 10 oh that isn't lucky you should be getting
one every three legendary packs in theory oh my god really i got a von doom that's pretty good
though well hold on let's talk about a legendary von
doom yeah oh nice that'll be good yeah i i opened 10 legendaries and i got three uh three cards
three legendaries out of the two right on right on where the odds should have been oh okay all right
well seems kind of off real quick uh yeah i honestly i don't even know where i'm going with
this i just wanted to like point. I just wanted to point out.
I just wanted to flex it.
I wanted to feel good.
All right.
Well, since you're flexing, I'm going to flex.
All right.
You ready for this flex?
Hold on.
Don't get you ready.
No, we're going to get it.
Let me flex.
Bandit got the flex.
I just don't want you to pull a muscle, dude.
No, no, no, no, no.
I hope you're built for all that.
When you go to the wheel spin, if you go to the loser tab, look who's number one.
This guy right here.
I am negative 14,330 zits, wagered 245,302 zits in volume, 1,281 pulls, and 489 wins.
That's called proof of gambling addiction, bro.
That's all that is.
Yeah, I mean, in any ecosystem, like even DeFi,
there's different ways to provide.
I provided liquidity on cards and supply,
and you're a deflationary type of guy, so I respect that.
Yeah, I provided.
Somebody in this room beat me,
and they got extra cards because of that.
So you're welcome.
No, not somebody.
Somebody's, bro.
Yeah, on top of the 5K I gave.
But I'm also pretty sure you burn
from the seed supply when you gamble.
Yep, Scotty said 100.
You're making everyone richer, dude. It's perfect.
There you go. What is the actual
supply of seeds, Scottyty you think i want to
say that i have a question though bandit how did you how did you end up with plus 3k
exceeds spinning like 300 times i did the same and i lost all of my seats can you explain what
you did and what I did wrong?
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess I had some divine help or something.
I just spun and won a lot of the legendary ones early on.
And then, like, I mean, the rare and basic spins really don't change your balance that much.
Yeah, it's just a wheel spin, dude.
I don't think it's a mechanical explanation.
You just have shit karma, dude.
You probably fucking ran over a stroller or something
at some point with your car i don't know bro it's a hot streak and you never leave the table
when you're on a hot streak man you should have said i mean i mean i i have to say scotty if you
want to listen to this tldr for like two minutes it made me cry and laugh at the same time like i
woke up i opened my exceed i started spinning then i then I was like, fuck Pons, I can play Nikita
and basically win more, right?
Won the first round and then
got wrecked 11, 12 or 13
times in a row and then I was
like, what the fuck just happened?
And then I was like, actually it makes sense, right?
You cannot defeat Nikita, so
props to you, well played and
negative out of for me.
He's final boss. Actually, you know what?
I think there's one mechanic that people
don't realize. If the wheel's spinning
and you click on the Z logo
as fast as you can, it gives you
a boost.
Oh, now you tell me that?
I had to come off mute for that.
Now you tell me that a little bit later.
Scotty's about to fund like
100 people breaking their mouses from clicking so much, bro. Scotty's about to fund like a hundred people their mouses from clicking so much
bro scotty's about to have me looking like a like an an idiot on stream here because i'm about to
fucking break my mouse i mean you could lose as much weight as you want but i don't know if you're
going to grow to be six foot four today jesus uh real quick scotty uh we are in march um there is
this thing called March Madness.
Are we running it back?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah, I'm going to run back March Madness for Bear.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah.
But you have to be a bearish holder, right?
No, no, it's open.
Yeah, fuck you, cheese.
I'm just asking, bro.
Yo, fuck you, Kenny.
You larked like you were going to buy a bear for fucking three months live on this fucking space only to buy some retarded fucking
pixel art bullshit that you tried to shill down
my throat at the fucking Pico Schmeco
top in the back channels, you
son of a bitch. Buy a bear.
Anyway, sorry. By the way,
I just
spent and used Scotty's trick, and it
works. Bullshit, I just did
and Nikita just took 300
zits from me you're
you're kidding me jesus uh you have to click on it you have to have his x profile up and then do
the spin and then click on his picture see and also you have to jump on your left leg
and put your right arm behind your leg oh my god dude somebody send me 30 000 seats please
um yeah when rebate when we get a second round of rebate because i didn't get it the first round Somebody send me 30,000 Zeats please Yeah
When rebate? When do we get a second round
Of rebate? Because I didn't get it the first round
I guess I didn't lose enough
Did you have a negative P&L?
Only the true loser D-Gens got rebates
Wait then what about me?
I got one because I lost it all
And I lost that again
Yeah I actually took those away
I had to get rebates multiple times i
was such a refund of my refund i don't think there's a bigger loser than an idiot dude i
fucking pillaged my own asshole so many times on this platform already oh my god dude i don't i
don't think nobody's gonna pass me on the biggest loser so there should be like a final boss reward
there um you know the irony
cheese is like i played you for a good like three minutes four minutes and then i lost every single
one of the spins against you so the fact that you are the biggest loser makes me the biggest
even the worst loser right now it's making me irritated i could have like pulled two more
legendary packs but of course i had to do those legendary spins against you and literally lost
like there were like five wheels and i would lose four out of the five for like three rounds against you and
i was like okay this is rigged and then i didn't lose my spin like i didn't lose a lot of zits on
those spins on like the regular spins it was losing them on pawns um yeah i've only done a
few on nikita leave it up to cheese to go to the most house incentivized fucking game right because
you know i mean dude i'm usually pretty good against the house though that's the that's the
that's the problem um yeah the next closest person is like fucking 9 000 zeats away so yeah by the
way i just want to point out that we opened the space with kenny going, how did you guys talk about Zeke for two fucking hours already? We are an hour and a half in the space.
That's all we've talked about so far.
I mean,
like, Bitcoin's at $73,000.
We haven't even talked about crypto.
But that's the whole point. Don't talk about it.
Don't look at it, dude. Don't fucking...
I don't even want to know, bro. Don't fuck that up.
Just let it do its thing, brother.
Well, you know, we like to keep people informed.
So, you know. Yeah to keep people informed so you know
yeah but if you just let let bitcoin cook let's eat cook you know why right now
because zeet's doing so well okay yeah that's why
scotty can you do like you know like in the in the collectibles like or even in the sports
you know they say like jersey match or color match like i noticed my pfp and then the rare cards kind of have like a similar color vibe like
can you add like a boost for that if it is possible i'm just gonna delete all your cards
right now oh damn i'll tell you what there is a lot more of these cards listed now
i am scrolling and scrolling and scrolling just to get down to the first rare uh looks like the first rare cards at 300 seats but
there's a lot of common cards listed now there's definitely people are getting on here and seeing
what's going on participating uh pretty cool pretty cool glad i got in early and got some good deals
yeah um i am done buying I'm stuck with a lonely
1,092 Zs.
Bitch, I've got two Zs.
I got two.
It's not my fault you spent
1,500 Zs on Zs.
Scotty, can we get a fucking one Zs wheel, dude?
Can we get a .5
Zs wheel, as a matter of fact, dude?
Holy shit, I'm cooked right now.
You just got Zs seats he spent them all right
dude you are
I know I'm a DJ
it's alright though I've got multiple cards listed
it's just uh you know
he spent
1500 on that one rare card
and I'm like don't do that
I actually like that buy though I actually like that buy
yeah it was a good buy
alright so do you like the 1500 buy of Eliza so do you like the $1,500 buy of Eliza,
or do you like the $300 rare buy of Teacher Katie better?
Ooh, I bought a rare on-chain mo for $500.
How's that?
I don't know.
I think Katie trumps them all.
I'm only buying female creatures.
That's somehow sexist.
Can I ask
my question? You're just mad because you're not a female.
Yeah, sorry. I am
not so sexist.
What's up, teacher? Let's go to
Katie real quick. What were you going to ask?
Well, I thought we were going with hands and everybody just
kept jumping in front of me.
I know, dude. A bunch of fucking skits.
Get some order in here, Kenny.
That's right. Chop chop, people.
Okay, while I have Scotty, I have a bearish
question, quick. I have two questions, so don't
kick me off after this. You don't have to answer this
if you don't want to.
Are we to claim our burr?
Should we claim it, or should we just let it keep
rolling along?
I mean, you can do whatever you want.
Yeah, but is it beneficial to claim it today?
I don't think it affects the yield at all.
Yeah, it doesn't affect the yield.
I mean, if you want to claim it, then do it.
Okay.
Sell it if you want.
No, no, no, no.
I'm going to hold it.
I've got tons of bear steak, so I will claim it.
I was just curious.
And then my second question is from earlier.
I need, Kyle, you need to tell me what a goon squad is because I hear you talk about it.
I don't know what that is.
Just explain, please.
Yeah, gooner is like, it's Zoomer talk for furiously masturbating.
So sorry.
Just look at my timeline, Katie.
That will tell you what a gooner is.
I'm sorry.
That's a question.
It's better that you asked.
If you had Googled that, you may have been exposed to certain things that you don't want to be exposed to.
So I'm happy to be here.
I can actually describe the true meaning of gooning.
Yeah, let's hear it, Bandit.
I'm curious.
How would you define gooner?
So, I mean, it's one thing to masturbate.
But gooners, they purposely prolong the process to be in that state.
That's gooning.
You're masturbating, but you're
purposely drawing it out so you can
go at it for hours.
I'm really sorry, A.S. Thank you.
Oh, I wish I had 800 zits right now.
There's a rare dial-a-card listed at 800 zits.
Do you hear this guy, Scotty?
Just fucking giving him out.
I don't have no seats, dude.
Look, I'm calling the shots.
I don't know what to say.
We're here to fucking talk about it.
I'm fucking calling the shots.
All right, I guess.
I think there's going to be a couple ways that value gets built up in these cards.
I guess I can say it that way.
There's the obvious case through tournaments, and I think there's other
ways that might come up
in the future for creators specifically.
And their holders, I guess.
Okay. So the more cards,
the better.
Yeah, for sure.
What do you mean? The last
cards, the better? what do you mean yeah
well no i mean i like i see magic mike out here just buying every card he's not there's
there's nothing holding him back he's buying everything well i mean no one knows what's
going to happen so i think right just get as many as you can and scotty that's that's the fun part
is the game theory right like like trying to figure out what is your best
route, what's the best thing to do.
That creates hype, momentum,
people talking about it.
Game theory is something that people are
supposed to sit there and try and debate and figure out
what the best thing to do is. If they gave you
the answer, it's not as fun.
So just embrace it.
By the way, we talked about gooning for 30 seconds,
and Heathen immediately hit the request button.
What's up, Heathen?
How are you doing today, buddy?
Yeah, I was just gooning in the shower to you,
and feel free to zed on me or in me anytime.
Leave it to Heathen.
Holy shit.
By the way, you guys should be following
Heathen. Heathen's building cool things and stuff.
I don't know what I should or shouldn't say, but
follow this, bro.
Yeah.
Wait, Scotty, when am I going to be able
to claim my honey into Burr?
I see the button.
I want to push it. Give it honey into Burr? I see the button. I want to push it.
Give it a end of week.
I like that.
Okay, expect me
in your DMs on Friday
morning. You know, I should stop saying dates
because when I say dates and it doesn't
happen, I get
a real nose call.
I don't look at my DMs on X.
I think I've said that before.
Yeah, I almost DMed you this morning,
and I was like, this motherfucker ain't never going to look at it.
Goddamn X DM.
When I look, it's like 100 DMs of like,
hey, you said this is going to go out on this date,
and I'm like, fuck, I knew I shouldn't have said that.
You just got to make the dates, though.
You just got to make dates. That's it.
All right, well, I'm still DMing you on Friday
asking you when, so you already said it.
Is it like a one honey to five bar token ratio?
Or what are we looking like here?
I think the first iteration is actually just going to be an airdrop
based on how well you performed on honey, like on the leaderboard.
And then to be determined what the rest of the
conversion looks like. It'll probably be based off
of... Actually, I'm not going to say anything.
To be determined what it looks like.
I got way more than I thought we would get.
I thought you'd just... Yeah, me too.
I didn't think he was going to respond to that at all.
I know. This guy's so easy, man.
Let's get him.
Was there a snapshot of leaderboard position
that that is related to? is it like going to be
leaderboard at the time of airdrop?
I'm not. I'm done talking.
Honestly. Okay. I'm going to guess
there's a snapshot coming. He said by end
of week, so snapshot not done.
So I'm ranked
291. Is that good or bad?
I don't know. No, I'm ranked 291. Is that good or bad? I don't know.
No, I'm not ranked 291.
Why does it say 291 next to my name?
That's probably how much honey you have or something.
On your screen, but.
No, I mean, I have.
It shows my.
Oh, that's all.
You have the marketplace up on your screen, so I can't see.
The leaderboard?
Are you talking about the leaderboard?
Yeah, no, no, no. I am there. I there so i'm i'm number 291 all time yeah 10 743 honey
not enough look at these guys a million fucking honey get out of here bro how much money are you
fucking spent on this bitch oh i'm 146 i used to be in the top 100. Used to be. Ain't gonna happen with these
guys. Look at the fucking amount of
honey these guys have. Holy shit.
Bro, this top guy,
Duma Jingy's or whoever this person
is, 1,019,000
honey? I'm
47. Just saying. Whoa!
God damn!
Let's go. I see Katie.
104,000
honey god almighty
I told you
don't sleep on me come on
I'm not that's why I got two of your cards
today
that's the like you and
Monica and other creators that were doing well
on Zeep prior I know you're gonna go even harder
on this
this next phase I'm like these are
the people that i'm trying to find fuck the icobe's and the shivs and all them like they're
cool people it's great but they're not gonna fucking be out here doing the work you know
it's not gonna happen you guys started here first from uh. Fuck Shiv. Somebody clip that.
Clip it.
I'll clip it and send it to him.
I love Shiv, but he's...
The guy's paid to tweet about one thing.
Other than that, it's either
just selfies of him and his sunglasses.
So it's like...
Josie cards listed for $3, by the way,
on OS right now.
Now, if we have a tournament
with Sunglass Hut or some high-end
sunglass place, you have lock-in.
Get every card you can get.
But yeah.
Or some type of travel
rewards, something like that.
I'm there.
Abstract tournament?
Are we going to see another one of those, Scotty? Rewards, something like that. I'm there. Abstract tournament.
Are we going to see another one of those, Scotty?
Nope.
He's really done talking.
I feel like you guys just keep asking Scotty questions he can't answer.
But you slide him in, Bandit, and he does answer them.
Right now, and then he slips up.
He slips up. So he's saying no for he does answer him now and then he slips up he slips up so he's saying
no for abstract tournament so uh it's official news zeet is bridging to solana uh we are taking
the place of their ordinals uh zeet is that right scotty yeah see he threw a thumbs up we're good
what are you talking about cheese i know we're good. Wait, Ordinal's were on BTC? What are you talking about?
Cheese?
I know we're taking place
of the Ordinal Marketplace.
Like, it's going to be
a Zeet Marketplace
built into Magic Eden.
The colors all match.
Everything's kind of vibes already.
You know?
It's going to be Zeet-tastic.
I have a whole Zeet,
like, vocabulary going here.
You have Zeke Tard.
There's plenty of Zeke Tards.
I'm number one on that loser board.
Kenny's a Zeke Tard because he's not
like even participating.
Yeah.
Can you believe somebody sold my common
for 60 Zeke earlier today?
I'm still pissed about that.
60 Zeke. Immediately started talking about Hold my common for 60Z earlier today. I'm still pissed about that. 60Z.
Immediately started talking about how people shouldn't be mad if their cards get traded.
Don't take it personally.
I'm just making trades.
60Z?
So, Jesus Christ.
You'd have thought I was like fucking placed 10,000.
That's not even a fucking cheeseburger for McDonald's, homie.
I know.
You can't even go ask for a free nugget with that.
You can just get the cheese with that motherfucking much.
I know.
Somebody needs to take my boy, an idiot, off here.
You have him listed at 50 Zeats.
He deserves more than that.
It's probably fair market value.
Again, I don't tweet enough to be, you if if if x spaces start to be taken into consideration
i mean we don't know how this is all going to look since they got uh you know the x api taken
away right so um you know if x spaces and streams and stuff start to be taken into consideration i
can say this if i get into a tournament that uh is something i actually like right which is basically
the only stuff i'm going to do i will be tweeting about it but it'll take me a few days to get back into
everybody's algorithm anyway even under those circumstances uh i ain't mad dude i ain't mad
i'm happy i have a price tag brother there's a lot of motherfuckers outside the shop looking in
you mean i'm i'm happy to have a price tag on me yeah you have a good jawline a decent jawline yeah i do and and he has a um
a man bun uh some other good cards that i'm seeing listed right here whether they do well
with zed or not uh they weren't very active on the first one first go around i think tori was
a little bit on a few tournaments uh but she has a common listed at 82 seats. Good deal. I think Carl has one listed a common at 90 seats.
Not too shabby there.
There's a few others, but I passed them up to go to that.
Dijani, what's up?
We're going to shut it down here momentarily.
What's up?
What's up?
I just wanted to say thank you to Scotty that he rainbows me with the packs.
I was like too excited and started to trade, buy, sell.
How did you even do that?
How did you nuke all of your packs?
Because there is a thing where you have to select how many.
But that's the...
Go ahead, Dijani.
Go ahead, Dijani.
I thought when I put in five packs, 90,
that he will list five packs at each 90,
not that he will list five packs for 90.
Yeah, and that needs to be like a disclaimer or something there.
That's already updated, actually.
Is it?
Okay.
Say per token and or full quantity quantity or something like that that's been
fixed because okay we got johnny and probably an idiot probably did that too he just isn't saying
it uh fogo did it i was too stupid to leave any card packs unopened it's amazing how quickly i
turned my whole plan upside down i remember yelling about how you weren't gonna get my zeats look at me dude
i'm fucking two feet right uh scotty have you guys seen people that were fudding the shit out
of zeat now kind of turn their like change their tune since these cards have come out i mean i
don't care about i mean like we know what we're building. Yeah. People are going to fund even if everything is successful.
It doesn't really matter what you do.
You get fun.
I like to have fun with it.
I mean, people think I, okay.
So I do crash out in the timeline, but I'm not like taking it seriously.
You know, like I'll just fuck around with people.
Like they might think I'm mad, but honestly, I don't care.
There's only probably been one time when I was actually upset about someone
funding and it was
because they called us grifters and like i was there with my history of of like being in the
space for and building uh and nfts for six years like i that stuff pisses me off i wish i had been
in that space the whole time because i did get to i only came in that space after you came up on
stage i did not hear the whole conversation prior to space after you came up on stage i did not
hear the whole conversation prior to that where ponds was on stage or i would have crashed out
way harder than i did i came up and crashed out a little bit just based on what was going on at
the moment i came in so so so me and kuro got into it but that was like kind of half serious
um i actually like well kuro will call you a grifter but then actually have a respectful conversation i like quite a bit i forget it was um scott fu that was actually yeah dude
but uh honestly i mean i engage with him after that and everything seems fine i mean he just
you know he's stuck in his whole rwa arc uh which is fine like i i did the whole rwa thing like
three years ago and i still think there's a lot of money potential there.
So what he's saying isn't wrong,
but labeling everything else in this space is like a grift.
If it's not RWA, it's kind of crazy to me.
Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I think he just like wanted to yell about something.
I don't know, dude.
I don't know the guy.
I didn't even follow him before that.
Didn't know who he was immediately don't know the guy. I didn't even follow him before that. Didn't know who he was.
Immediately, just based on the sound of his voice and the content of the words coming out of his mouth,
I identified him as a low IQ MF-er that I'm not interested in.
And he had a shitty microphone, too.
It was horrible.
I mean, he's been around the block.
I mean, I used to go into his spaces with books and prophets when they were bored apes.
And, you know, they had whatever i forgot the
name of the space but i've been listening to that guy forever and it's not that he um he's not i
don't think he's a grifter by any means i actually do think he's trying to build things but i just
don't like how he how he treats other people that he doesn't know uh because he doesn't know that
i've been around for for that long probably building stuff and he just kind of makes assumptions that's stuff i'm like yeah i mean look i you're fair right but like the reality is in web 3 founders are a lot more
front-facing for the most part than they are in web 2 or in the real world business kind of a
setting you know most people have never heard the founder of most you know major companies even
speak and they still enjoy their products but people are buying things in web 3 uh you know
based on speculation and a key part of speculating is your belief and in the founder and and what
your opinion is based on your exposure to said founder and uh that guy sounds like a dumbass so
i don't know good luck to him
i think this space is super small i mean i make i've made enemies don't get me wrong um because i do crash out but like this space is super small especially for devs like if you're shitting on devs
i do not recommend because like they're kind of scattered about you know they're they're
they're behind the scenes you don't know what projects they're helping and
uh it could impact you you know that's all i'm saying absolutely i just bought probably my last
card that i'm gonna straight up buy on os for 12.84 i got a kaido dan rare card uh i know he's
engaged in several tournaments already so fucking happy to i'm not going to list that one I'm going to hold that one Oh Kaido Dan
Love some Kaido Dan
I'm curious
Jesus have you
checked out Amigo and I'm
curious what your thoughts on it are if you have
I have but
I signed up for the wait list a long time ago
then I
you know tried looking at it again but
it's when I seen it i immediately thought of
like a zeet ripoff like a friend techie yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't i wouldn't go that far
i mean i think they're doing some i mean that's i mean it's like okay well we already have zeet
like i understand it's good to have competing platforms, but when I looked at it and seen
it, I was like, yes, not for me.
I'd rather
stick with brands and teams that I
know in China. Scotty, if we sign up for it, are we
going to lose our creator cards?
Okay, I'm not signing up for it.
I mean, I like the
web. They're going to hop into web too before
Z does
more than likely, at least based on what they were pitching.
So I'm kind of interested to see how that goes.
When you say hop into Web2, what are you expecting?
Well, I mean more traditional influencers in whatever niche it may be.
So we're focusing on crypto, and it's a very small addressable market.
But it looks like they're hopping into um
you know other other other creators that are on tiktok and youtube and stuff so we'll see what
happens but here's my question all right so they came around months and months ago um you know
it's way last year we signed up for the the wait list for this then they vanished for a while now
they're back um did they raise a shit ton of money because
one if they're going after bigger creators like on tiktok and web 2 brands they're gonna have to
pay these people first off nobody's signing up for any of this shit so where'd they get their
money from um and i just i don't know
they're in the epstein files everybody amigos and the epstein files no and i'm not even trying to i'm not shitting on on amigo i actually
i've only seen what you've seen probably i was just curious from a creative perspective
what it would look like because i you know zeet will 100 go into youtube tiktok any social platform i mean we already are building for that um because x is
not going to be the main playground for a lot of this stuff i mean it will exist as a byproduct
but it's not the main playground yeah that's just the birthplace of it and it could end up succeeding
better on instagram or tiktok or linkedin or whatever I guess it's a matter of where the brands want push at.
And I think what Z's going to do is cause creators
to break out of the X circle
and start creating on other platforms.
It's going to get them more recognition.
And if your main home base is on X,
is on X, guess what? It's just
guess what?
It's just going to funnel more people
going to funnel more people back to what you're doing on
back to what you're doing on X anyways.
X anyways.
with Amigo, yeah,
I don't know, man. I mean, as soon as
I seen the keys in the video, I was like,
and then they're like,
we've been here before.
And the things that I think you guys have
planned,
and the fact that you stand on
ground about how it's not a frintech,
that's not a fantasy top, that there's new innovative things coming.
None of these other brands are saying that.
They're wrapping old products with new marketing
and putting just a very little bit of a twist on it and shipping it.
So I don't know. with new marketing and putting just a very little bit of a twist on it and shipping it. And I,
so I don't know.
I mean,
we'll see how it goes,
but I would like to know,
you know,
one,
how much money have they raised?
Because which,
I mean,
Zete only did,
they didn't do no big raises.
They did the tournaments and played the info five game,
just like everybody else.
And that allowed you guys to fund the things that you're building
and and grow and add a few team members and get where you at now um so yeah we actually i don't
know we actually bootstrapped ourselves and then we were cash flow positive pretty fast so we didn't
have to worry too much uh yeah not not which is not saying we're not looking for actually i'm not gonna say anything
else yeah oh so you you are looking for vcs uh i mean i would say we're always looking for
strategic partners the right opportunity doesn't like a little bit of extra money i mean yeah but
it depends what the extra money comes with i can't i'm looking for a sugar daddy too just to put it
out there i can say this like me ponds Tully, I believe are not like people that care about VCs.
Like if we can do it without VCs, that's our path.
Like we will do it without VCs because I think it can get messy.
That being said, there is still such a thing as having credibility through the VC.
So if it's like a big VCc fund it's it is still a pro um but from a from
from a financial standpoint we don't actually need it like right now well maybe we do need money but
because you never know how fast you need to scale yeah look not many businesses are net positive
after year one so i mean y'all are ahead of the curve obviously yeah well these tokens uh claw
go tokens aren't cheap so you mean if you if it's
dialed in and you know you're building fast you need more money
yeah uh i'm all for it though uh magic what's up bro
200 and something cards on a buying spot uh Good evening, good evening.
Yeah, I've been buying a couple of cards.
A couple, he said.
Yeah, this guy,
you're going hard.
There's no
bias at all.
You're
getting a lot, bro. 216
cards. You own 0.76%
of the supply right now yeah i'm gonna buy a
couple more tonight i think nice uh what's your what's what's your biggest buy that you've done
so far if you don't mind sharing i mean we can all go look just save us time bro i the one of
rebirth that was 0.05 eastTH. Oh, wow. Okay.
It was on the floor from the Legendaries.
I thought he's a good creator, so I bought him right away.
Yeah. And overall, the rest was just, yeah, a couple dollars.
So, yeah.
Nice.
Yeah, you definitely got a bag.
We're going to see how it works out, you know?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, if...
Well, if if anything once the
abstract xp kicks in because i don't think it did last week uh once that comes into effect i mean
if the volume is still there like bro you're gonna fucking print on abstract xp for 200 car uh nfts um we gotta see yeah um hey guys there's a totally common card
listed on os for three dollars right now hey go get it go get it i had one question for scotty
by the way if i can ask him yeah um is there maybe a possibility that we can have like some squads to be tagged as favorites.
Because right now when I'm scrolling through all my squads, I have to search a couple of hundreds.
Which one I want to chat with and which one I don't want to chat with.
Yeah, we'll make an aggregated interface for sure.
for sure um awesome okay even cross that was all as well yeah yeah all right thank you it'd be cool
Awesome.
Maybe even cross chat as well.
to see that and like uh like a notifications tab like a squad noti you know something at like the
top even if you're not on that page it's like a just like a little zeep mark that pops up next to
it and let you know that you have notifications in your squads. That'd be kind of dope.
Yeah, that is pretty cheap
for a Tolly there.
I need a cheap Scotty is what I need.
Scott, all right, so one last question.
We're going to end up shutting it down.
We see some other
cards that are bearish.
We see Z.
We see...
These are actual
brands. Obviously, Z is see, are these, these are actual brands.
Obviously Z is like, are these cards going to be,
are they going to be in tournaments?
Like, how is that going to work with some of the brands that are on here?
Oh, like the, uh,
Can you answer anything like the bearish card?
Like NFT community?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think there's going to be something interesting there.
Um, fuck Kyle. God damn it. Like NFT community Yeah I think there's going to be something interesting there Fuck Kyle
God damn it
I gave that motherfucker my Bears card
I think
Oh yeah he did
This is recorded so I won't say too much
But if you just think
Think about it
The NFT community that exists
Let's say Bearish and the Plague
And there's a couple others
Maybe GBC
That come to
mind immediately chimpers probably as well creeps for sure um somebody bought that totally card by
the way immediately anyway these nft communities are like born to engage and and born to uh
to do things i'll say things and and a lot of them are high agency individuals that are in these communities.
So giving an NFT community the power to do things and earn things, I think is definitely an interesting angle.
Nice.
Well, that was the whole drip thing to begin with, right?
I mean, that's the same philosophy is just like you give your community an incentive structure to go and do the things that they would have done anyway. And then
they feel, they feel rewarded. They, that, that builds, you know, positive sentiment in your
community. They're not just going out there and screeching into the nether for no reason, right?
Even if it's something that's just nebulous and doesn't necessarily have a monetary value.
And then you, you know,
you make cool things that you can exchange those,
whatever they are, berries or whatever.
I mean, like you look at a lot of these communities,
they get whitelists and collabs and you have to mint and whatever it is that
they ask you to do with these collabs.
But imagine a world where you have a protocol or a layer two blockchain.
That's like, all right, I want your thousand, 1500 two thousand unique holders to come do things and we're going to
give you one percent of the token like that's that's a way that everyone can win you know right
but um yeah that can happen at the community level i have an entity but also i think if you
if you squint hard enough each creator themselves that considers themselves a creator can have that same type of symbiotic relationship.
I mean, actually, there's a very good example right now
with Rip Chill Pill.
He has his snoozies.
That concept is, if you look at what he's doing there,
is very similar, I think, to what you'll see with squads
at the end of the day or at least some
it'll be it'll be similar to that i mean it's gonna be different but there are some
some things that take yeah um danny asked uh team leaders can they join other squads other teams i
mean i think so yeah as long as you hold the card right shouldn't hold you back from earning both
ways you can earn from a squad position leader and as a supporter.
I mean, I shouldn't have said this yesterday, but since I already said it, it doesn't matter.
Yeah, I see a world where there will be super squads in these tournaments.
Super squads.
Shit.
Okay.
Okay.
Sun's interesting.
Well, let's see how it goes.
What are we looking like for the weeks ahead?
What do you think?
Tournaments in a couple weeks?
Month?
Two months?
Three months?
Oh, way sooner.
Four months?
Way sooner than a month.
A couple weeks probably sooner than that.
But we've been talking to clients.
Just finding the right
one that makes sense or maybe i can't wait to get back to uh earning seats and participating with
each other and seeing just how all this fits together how we can all work together on this
um i think this is uh you guys have done just the right amount of not spelling it out to let
everybody speculate and uh you know generate volume and uh you know
a lot of founders don't want to launch their shit right now too and the fact that you guys
are launching this in particular there's just not a lot for people to even pay attention to so it's
like really an opportune moment i see people who are saying who have said for a full year nfts are dead
abstracts fucking dead rah rah rah and they're asking questions about zeet they're paying
attention to zeet because it's taken over we lost scotty didn't we um i think so yeah he was breaking
up he was breaking up when he um he was breaking up there uh oh there there he is
there he is um shit we lost rug again didn't we we didn't even go to rug twice he was on the stage
but we've been so caught up in the z shit i know you don't have nothing to say about big rug yeah
yeah well that's yeah i mean he's another guy that's like now fuck that shit i'm not gonna do
that shit and then he loves ripping packs. He loves that whole experience.
And I mean, I think people are going to look back in a few months
and they're going to be like, fuck, why didn't I listen to them?
Why didn't I, you know, at least jump in,
hold some cards and start trading.
So, yeah, I mean, you can't, you know,
you can only lead a horse to water.
As we say over here in these parts,
you know,
it's all you can do.
I mean, I think, you know,
we've tried to make it where no one has to spend money. And now people
have definitely been spending money on the cards,
which is cool, like the ICOB sales
and whale.
But yeah, we've tried to make it
as free as possible. I mean,
like, I don't know.
We don't want to take, take, take away from anyone.
We only want to give that's always been the motto, but that's what drives hype anyways,
though.
It was like, let me, let me, let me play devil's advocate here.
And I agree with you that it is, it has been free, but I'll play devil's advocate.
Um, people do expect at some point in on-chain value for zets right and they did participate in
tournaments under the idea of i'm doing the kol thing and this is my compensation even though
it's undefined so free although technically correct i would just i don't know i would let
me reframe it let me reframe it okay so if InfoFi wasn't banned on January 15th,
then we probably, at this point, would have announced the TGE.
Like, we were already ramping up to do that.
And then, obviously, every platform in InfoFi got a bit rugged.
We were actually fortunate that we didn't have a token.
Yeah. Because every token got pretty railFi got a bit rugged. We were actually fortunate that we didn't have a token. Yeah.
Because every token got pretty railed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And if they haven't pivoted by now,
you know, they're losing momentum.
But yeah, so we got lucky there.
So I'm not saying there isn't going to be
some on-chain token aspect.
I think every Web3 company,
at least to get to, let's say,
a nine-figure, ten-figure valuation
needs to end up having that.
I'm just saying that, you you know we haven't announced anything we're going to make sure that the model works like we're not going to build something and then release a token and then it
goes to zero like that's not in the cards for us like if we're going to build it it's because we
think it's going to be a nine figure company or more, at least from an FDB standpoint.
Let's go. Let's go. And by the way, I mean, I am just, you know, I only was pushing back on the technicality of the word free.
I do think you guys have done this at like the best way you possibly could have to put every option in the participants hands that you possibly could.
Yeah, let's call it as free as we could do it um
like we're not asking people to mint 100 packs 200 packs and then using that money to fund like
we've actually just used our own money and we just build on our own time and that's it yeah well i
think it's going as well as it possibly could be going at this current moment man it's uh
it's definitely captivated pretty much all of my attention at least uh you know ever since you
guys started i i started doing the z thing man i hated the whole idea of info five you know i'm
a big fan of you guys as the as the bearish team and the way you guys tried to approach this and
it's just gotten more and more fun at every turn
so zeet was not meant to be like we we played the info 5 game and i've said this before like
we played the game because there was a lot of money going through there a lot of revenue and
it did make sense from that perspective but we always wanted zeet to be more i wouldn't say
casual is the best word but you don't need you shouldn't need to be spanning the timeline to be getting
rewards. The way that the most successful ZTE creators actually made ZTEs, if you look
at Eli, maybe even you, Cheez, you focused on Myriad, you did your thing there. Any abstract
product, Eli did well. He didn't do that well in other ecosystems, like niche ecosystems,
but that was the purpose. It's supposed to find niche creators that maybe have a focus on DeFi,
maybe they'll focus on gaming, maybe they'll focus on whatever it is.
Zit was supposed to find these creators for brands.
It was never supposed to be like this.
It was fine that it was permissionless.
It was fine that it was open.
That created a lot of spam, but we were always trying to slowly move to the model that we actually wanted, which, you know, fast forward to now, we're actually pretty much where we wanted to be six months ago.
So it just kind of sped up the process.
uh you know i really leaned in heavier with like even on myriad uh with creating more video content
so it caused me to do that because instead of just doing a regular tweet post i did like 60
or 70 days of video content for myriad um you know and then i did well on loot did well on
chimpers did well on world of women did did well on the actual Z info five platform itself.
So like all those things, you know, and there were tournaments that I could have done, but it may have conflicted with some other brands that I was working with or, but it's, there was some stuff I just wasn't interested in.
So like it's why tweet about it and force it?
So like, it's why, why tweet about it and force it?
Yeah, I think, you know, now that that whole era is over, I think the teams and bandits here, I know he was on the Kaido team for a little bit.
I don't know how much information he has, but I think most of the teams in InfoFi knew majority of the clients weren't getting the results they wanted in general.
Like they were getting the vanity metrics.
But at the end of the day, you know, Zeely, Galaxy, these kind of platforms did that as well.
A lot of the clients, they were happy with vanity metrics, but they were
also pretty unhappy about not getting the outcomes that they wanted, whether
it was depositing TBL or whatever it is that they were trying to target.
A lot of those KPIs just went under the...
They were just ignored from the info 5v1 which is
why you know what we're doing now and what you'll see i think kaido wallchain uh i think cookie
already pivoted to prediction markets but if they had stayed in the game i think these platforms
will move to verified outcomes um basically on-chain attribution typical affiliate marketing
but in web3 i think that's where where all the InfoFive platforms,
if they remain, will move.
I assume Kaido will do something like that.
I don't know what they're doing.
I'm interested to see what their product is.
I know they're hiding stuff for sure.
Kaido Studio is probably just one avenue.
So I'm interested to see what our competitors are doing.
But I would also say that our competitors
are not really
competitors anymore because we've all forked off at this point.
For example, Zete is not really doing much on X infrastructure
anymore since API access is removed.
I know Kaido and Cookie still have the data for Sentiment
and Mindshare.
We actually might try to use their APIs
to get this data if we still want it.
So I would say we're more complementary than we were before. And yeah, we'll see how that plays
out. Hey, one last question real quick. CW and Dillow are in the comments just kind of asking
about access to the Squad Hub chats. Do you guys intend to give access to people who aren't certified creators to the chats of the cards that they're holding?
Yeah, I think we will leave it up to the creator to create their squads as they wish.
The thing with the cards and how that works though is it's important it's an important aspect
to own the card of the squad that you're in though so it's not that um the chat can't have you in
there just for fun and creating community that's fine but from uh attribution level the card
matters quite a bit right yeah i mean i would only give it yeah yeah exactly it's just to
for people to be able to access the chats of the cards that they do hold if they're not a creator.
Yeah, that's, I think, what they're kind of asking about.
Cool.
Awesome.
Nice.
Josie, what's up?
I have one last question before you guys end the stream.
I'm sorry.
Scotty, are you guys going to, like, gamify the creator cards at any point?
Kind of like Gwen.
Have you ever played Gwen from Witcher and just have
each other battle each other and then
you can potentially lose your cards
to somebody if you lose the battle?
I think that'd be a fun way to gamify
it just a little bit. More degen
mechanics. He's thumbing up
so that means he's not going to talk about it
but that means that he's probably thinking about it.
but that means he's probably thinking about it.
I decipher your code, Scotty.
I decipher your code,
Scotty.
That would be pretty fucking wild to lose your cards if you lost them.
Right?
Like, I challenge an idiot and go, idiot.
I challenge my creators against your creator.
Like, you pick five and I pick five and whoever's five wins, wins,
and then you lose yours.
Oh, my God.
I want to say I would not participate in something like this and risk my
fucking cards,
but I know exactly how that already went for me with my Z.
So I'm just not going to fucking,
I'm not going to rug myself here.
Oh Lord.
Yeah.
The biggest thing is,
you know,
looking back,
are you going to have, now this is from a, a, you know, looking back, are you going to have, now this is from a, you know, a money thought
in my head is like, looking back, are you, is it, was it a good thing that you spent all your
zeats on cards and did whatever, or are you going to wish you had your zeats back?
I think the cards are drastically undervalued still right now, personally. And I think that the card supply is only going to be what it is.
I can earn more Zitz by participating in tournaments.
So I am mad at what I did.
Yeah.
And then...
I mean, I don't know what the best strategy is myself.
I mean, I'm being totally honest about that.
We're just giving people the option and see how it plays out.
I mean, I think Zitz could be the play,
but I also think getting into as many squads
and getting the people that you want to support is important too.
Play the game how you play it.
Play the game how you play it.
All right.
I'm going to go to Walmart and stand outside with a son asking for z all right this is what i will say so like if z if z does
become a billion dollar company um you know the value of zits today are not at that valuation so
i would say if you think Zitz will be a billion dollar
company, which I'd like it to be,
and what we're working towards, then maybe
Zitz is the play.
But I think there's
also a correlation between
Zitz doing well and cards
doing well. So I don't think
you will lose that much value.
Yeah, by the way, if the listed
cards I have listed
even sell right now i'll have more
zeats than i had to begin with anyway so i mean it is you know they gotta sell first so that's
you know but we'll see yeah i mean i could easily turn around and sell a lot of my stack and get
a good portion of zeats back and then just sit there but then you're like out of the game
then then you gotta inject usdc or you gotta and i don't want to do that i want to be a part i want to be a part
of the zeke community i want to grow with them and help other smaller creators and that's why
like even in one of the abstract chats i literally put the fucking stream it was like we are live
streaming two hours anybody wants to come on the stream with us come on like people had the opportunity to come up have fun hang out grow other people get to see them as well and i'll do
more of those opportunities but if you're on z and you're trying to push your card and like there's
an invite for you to go on a stream fucking go on the stream and like hang out so people can see you
out there trying to put yourself out there it's also 8 30 in the morning esp you got to take into consideration time don't matter bro you got
to lock in i used to get up at two in the morning just to avoid high not everybody has kids and has
to take them to school at 6 30 in the morning i take my daughter to school at 7 30 but it doesn't
matter like i'm still doing shit i was out on the golf course fucking spinning wheels but it doesn't matter. Like, I'm still doing shit. I was out on the golf course fucking spinning wheels.
Like, it doesn't matter.
Fucking lock in, people.
There's not much to do.
Yeah, Kenny Powers, you're right, dude.
Not everybody fucking has kids.
They don't take any responsibility for scattered all over South and Central America.
Let's fucking go, Kenny.
There we go.
Yeah.
Exactly.
I'm trying to see.
I don't remember what email I did use
because the Amigo shit Scotty said
to keep an eye on your emails for approval.
I see that five minutes ago,
I see Eli has five invite codes to Amigo,
who's a creator that's going to cook and needs one.
So, yeah, it'll be interesting to see what continues on.
Not me, buddy.
I'm a fucking Zit Maxi, dude.
With Amigo.
Send all these other platforms to zero.
I like the loyalty, but I think it's worth exploring, you know,
as much as you can.
I think Amigo looks cool.
I mean, again, I think they're tackling a different segment.
I don't know how it's going to work, though.
I do think Zeet
has more figured out.
But it's because they haven't,
you know, Amigo hasn't shared anything.
But I think the model
that we have created just makes...
Just let us be Zeet gooners
and be happy about it, okay?
Absolutely.
Yeah. Alright, cool. It's been fucking since 8 30 this morning
yeah dude we've already got fucking four hours of streaming in
holy shit yeah uh but it's all good i had fun we'll do some more of these um and
yeah i look forward to seeing what's happening. Once all the Aussie boys wake up
and they start seeing all their cards, you know, selling. I'm so glad I got a Craig's coin purse
for fucking, I think I paid 80 zits for that. Like, I think that was
a deal. If Greeny doesn't
carry him enough. Greeny's back's hurting, but Craig will be alright.
But anyways. Alright, cool.'s hurting, but Craig will be all right. But anyways.
All right, cool.
Scotty, we appreciate your time.
I know it's valuable.
The guys out here fucking building and tearing it up.
Open Claw is doing all my work.
I literally just sit here now and then I just watch Open Claw build everything out.
It's kind of fun.
I think I'm starting to grow on Scotty, by the way.
I think the first couple of times I was botheringotty about like fucking like bitch answer my ticket
in the fucking bearish desk or i think he was like dude this fucking guy i was fucking i i've
no i i think so yeah i hated you no no i don't i don't think that way if you own a bear you can
basically do whatever the fuck you want no i, I'll take it. That's wild.
Okay, well, shit.
I'm going to start doing that.
Whatever I want.
You guys remember that when the tape comes out.
You guys just remember that.
Does it increase on whatever we want on the amount of bears that we have?
Well, if that's the case, Teacher Katie's got this shit right up.
I don't know if there's something direct like that.
And actually, I think this was teased already.
Wait, did I tease this with Tolly? Let me think did i say this you did go ahead spill it you already said it
i'm not gonna say it i have it clipped right here what he said with toli i don't i feel like i did
say it but then i think toli said not to say it publicly no i just can't remember now i'm not
gonna say it but um we did the same thing yesterday bro
You baited us and then you fucking bailed
If you own bearish
Or if you own a plague for that matter
I think there's good things coming
If things go to how
Ponds
Tully and I are planning
Then it will be good for anyone that
Has our collections
I think that's always been the case
i think people understand that but um you know we have specific things that are gonna happen
i've got my eight bears bro i got my eight bears hibernating yielding more ticker burr chilling
i think it'll be better than just bonuses but that yeah that could be one angle but i think
it'll be better than than like bonuses Dude, I got three bears
Off of the Z Blinko tournament
Guys when I got airdropped
It was amazing
That's awesome
Juice
Why'd you go to Juice first?
You should have went to Cupertino
How do you
What?
Did he leave?
Claudebide, How do you pronounce that?
That's not responding either.
juice.
Juice.
No bad words.
What do you want?
I just have a question for Scotty.
I wanted to know what his open claw setup looks like.
there we go.
I'm interested to hear which models he's using and,
what type of work he's doing with it
scotty juice is legit like as deep in the ai trenches as you could possibly be right now
this is like i know he sounds like a troll but this is all this guy talks about the back channels
um i actually i'll be truthful i don't use open claw i uh i actually created my own agent harness
this motherfucker is open claw bro no but totally actually uses open claw he has i actually created my own agent harness this motherfucker is open claw bro no
but totally actually uses open claw he has a whole setup with like five agents he used to have like
40 i was like dude how much token how many tokens are you burning through i realized that was a bad
setup but um yeah scotty real quick question set up yeah did totally go back to more than one monitor
because he put that fucking post out trying to say i'm simplifying
my life and bullshit there's no way to have more than one monitor i don't i just don't see how he
can do it because he has like a lot going on now with his you know automation yeah so i think he
has to yes is he even is he even focused on bearish like i mean you know with open claw a lot of it
is through like telegram or whats, however you set it up.
And so like you can see updates from your agents doing their things on your phone.
So he might, he actually might be on one monitor.
I just feel like he's about to pull in Alex Finn and just go away from NFTs and start doing AI pitches.
Yeah, I mean, there's a whole, there's going to be a whole, I guess I can say this.
There's going to be a whole, I guess I can say this, there's going to be a whole agent aspect to Zete that Tully is cooking up.
So outside of that, Juice, to answer you specifically, I typically use Opus and Codex for coding specifically, Opus for thinking.
And then I'll pop in Gemini every now and then for more math-based, PhD-level kind of discussions,
if you will.
Sweet. That's pretty cool.
I just started using Codex last night.
I've paid for a fucking $200 chat GPT subscription
for 25 days, and I just started using Codex yesterday.
It's actually really nice.
I went exclusively from Opus to also using this now and uh it's a bit cheaper i think right i mean well depends
if you're using cloud code then opus is probably still fine but codex yeah the uses that you get
with codex is definitely higher and i i think uh the gpt uh 5.3, I think they just do a better job at compacting.
And they tend to do a better job remembering the important details.
I still think that's where Claude's models kind of lack, but Claude is definitely way better to use when it comes to our user experience, I think.
like when it comes to user experience, I think.
Yeah, anything, if you're, if it, so, you know,
if you're doing anything with coding
and it's front end related,
I think Sonnet and Opus are like superior in every way
to Codex at the moment even.
But if I'm doing backend work, anything with algorithms,
Codex generally implements better as far as my own usage.
I don't know how true it is.
All this stuff is just guessing from your anecdotal usage.
But for me, that's how it's been.
And then again, for things that are like,
let's call it math-based or PhD-level analysis of problems,
or if I need to draft a white paper or something,
Gemini 3.1 pro has been my
go-to and then yeah sometimes i'll i'll use 5-2 or 5-3 pro too are you running any models locally
i do have some local models but they're not up to snuff for what i need them for i've been running
kimmy actually not not locally i mean i've been've been running Kimmy just for some things because I think it is comparable to Opus in a lot of areas.
Kimmy's a fucking slut, bro. I fucking
for like three or I think like three open
claw setups and it fucked up every setup. The only
time I got my open claw setup right was by primarily using
Opus and then feeding the folder into Claude
code and then getting it to do the rest. And then it typically runs okay on Kimmy after
you do the setup. But I had a pretty shitty experience with Kimmy. There is a lot of usage
though. You can use a lot of it.
Yeah, I mean, so it's kind of funny i mean the timing i actually
wasn't following too much about open claw before it came out but i think it was a week a week before
it really gained steam i said something like um desktop agents are going to be like a new meta
and then it just so happened that open claw got as much traction it didn't and blew up but i kind
of already saw this happening because this computer user agent stuff is going to simplify
and optimize a lot of people's lives.
They don't even realize it yet.
I don't know if OpenClaw is the best implementation,
but it definitely is the most viral and has the most support.
So it makes sense to be on it.
But I think most devs, like I would say existing devs,
either are creating their own
harnesses that do what open claw does and just tailor it to their own issues like that's what i
do like i'm not using open open claw directly but i looked at nano claw um i forgot the other two
there's other there's other implementations and i've just adapted my own um for my use cases
that seems to be the best way to go about it.
Out of box, they're all too clunky.
And even the lighter versions, I think they lack on the security front.
And even OpenClaw, it lacks on the security front out of the box, right?
So yeah, I still think I agree with you that it needs your personal optimization and you need to spend time on your own systems.
I'm actually like, I'll spend like a day working on the system and then I'll spend a day on real work.
And then I figure out how to optimize the system again.
So I spend another day on the fucking system and I go back and forth over and over again.
over and over again.
And then when I spend too many days working
in concurrent days,
I start
noticing so much slop.
And then it's like
you always need to be continuously optimizing
and there's always new stuff coming out.
All right. There's the
AI update.
And we got the truth. Scotty's not using no fucking claw
bot to respond to nobody i mean i actually am but i just gotta whatever i'm about to go trick that
you see the guy who tricked the one bot into sending him like two hundred thousand dollars
i still see how many i still think that was a publicity stunt yeah remnants of the fucking
la vape cabal if you ask me but whatever i agree i have been known to
wear a tinfoil hat so i don't know buddy let's go to coperto real quick yeah and then we're gonna
yeah we're gonna rug it coperto what's up you have a question yeah yeah my question is pretty
simple man and i don't know if scotty can answer or maybe like you jesus or anybody else here
i'm just curious man because one guy asked me today, I'm like a squad leader on Z,
and he asked me, like, what's my squad's rank?
And, man, I have no idea how to check.
I just went through the website.
I don't know.
I cannot figure it out.
Maybe I'm just blind.
Can anybody help me?
Thanks.
I don't think there's no rankings yet on that.
It's kind of like when I used to work in restaurants,
and the first time I worked in a restaurant, a big chain restaurant, the guy told me to go next door to the other
restaurant and get the bacon stretcher.
Oh my God.
We do that to guys all the time.
Yeah.
Me being the, the, the eager guy to make everybody happy in the restaurant.
I went over next door asking for the bacon stretcher.
I've literally seen guys get a paper stretcher a bunch of times dude
like in printing we'll turn we'll send people for left-handed wrenches for paper stretchers uh we
we have a made-up thing called halftone dots that you don't need to know what that implies but it
doesn't exist uh yeah dude all the time fucking up fucking new guys up yeah i don't there's nothing
out there for that yet um you know i was asking
i don't know how accessible is the api on zeke uh scotty because i was asking man versus coin
if he could go in and rank all of the participants that were on previous tournaments and added into
his his website so people could actually see the rankings of like the the creators
and i don't know if it is are you guys gonna have something like that soon
yeah man versus coin is probably one of my favorite favorite dudes that um i actually
talked to him on discord quite a bit yeah he he gets free access to whatever he wants really okay
cool yeah yeah he puts some good, useful stuff out there.
A lot of cool stuff.
Yeah, but I think that'd be kind of cool
because then people could kind of use that.
But then again, you're putting a value to creators
that you may not want to.
Because they'll be like,
why'd you only give me that score?
And only hit this score.
Then I'd be whining him, bitch.
And why'd you fucking zet all my zets?
Why am I not verified?
You know, it just goes on.
Why are you not using club, bud?
You're using Opus.
No matter what you do on the internet,
you got to realize the internet opens access to the entire world.
You're never going to do anything on the internet
with any sort of motion whatsoever
and not have people bitching.
And that's what some of these soft-ass founders need to
just realize and not take it seriously and just
learn to ignore that fucking shit. Like, it's not
that you should ignore all
critical feedback, but you do have to
be able to sort out useful
critical feedback from whiny
bitch-ass MFers just fucking
you know, spreading negativity.
The whiners, they do give
good feedback, actually. The whiners give the best feedback
But you can't let them know they're right too
Because otherwise it's just like
That's right
So you just fix it
And you don't acknowledge that they were
The reason you fixed it
Kyle guess what arrived and just landed on my
In front of my garage
What is that
My shaft
And I'm excited.
I am excited.
I am excited, sir.
Your shaft for what, buddy?
A six iron.
Okay.
Yeah.
What kind of clip?
I'll tell you right now, dude.
My dog just woke up.
She is currently upside down on the couch,
and we are going to have to get out of here before she starts.
Oh, I see her.
Yeah.
PXG.
I just got another set. Damn. PXG, I just got another
set.
Big spender, huh? No, no, no.
No, this guy,
whenever, I'm telling you, when you're looking for
something, you go on Facebook
Marketplace and you type in
divorce. It's the best way to
find shit. I went on there.
I went on there.
That's a pretty fucking genius.
The lady was selling all this dude shit uh she had the the zero three eleven xf driver so four hundred ninety nine dollar base driver
she had it on there for 150 bucks and i said is this real can i come get it today she said yes
i didn't look at any other listings i showed up
and she had the whole entire set she was selling them individually and i'm like well what will
you do for the whole iron set another 100 bucks 250 bucks i got the driver i got a wedge all the
way up to a uh non-iron bro so that's like 15001,500 or $2,000 worth of clothes. Yeah. Yeah. It was. So $499 for the driver in 19.
I think it was like, I think it was like $1299 starting for the irons.
But he had a couple.
He had all the way down to a three iron.
So it was, yeah, a couple of grand.
Well, if Jesus flips irons and he things like he does NFTs, he probably already sold for a $20 profit.
No, no, no no no no no
what were you gonna ask scotty what's your handicap uh bro i'm horrible i am horrible like
over 20 uh uh no i would say less than that okay so you're not horrible i mean if you're under 20
that's pretty that's like top 10 right yeah i Yeah, I would say less than that. We've only been out three times.
The first time we went out, we were playing,
we were doing a scramble.
So as a group, we shot a, I think it was a 90 or a 91.
But then we played again the next week,
did the same thing and did an 86, I think.
So yeah, I mean, it's getting a little bit better.
Yeah, I'm usually the worst player on the scramble.
But, yeah, I try to get the ringers, you know, scratch golfers on my team.
Exactly, yeah.
But I got a lot of kids, bro.
I've been going to the gym since, like, the middle of December.
I'm down 37 pounds.
I had less kitchen cabinets to swing around when I'm hitting.
So, yeah, the goal is to keep losing, losing, losing,
and getting out on the course.
So, yeah.
I guarantee you Kenny checked out.
He's gone.
I think you'll continue losing.
What did you say, Jus?
I said I think you'll continue losing.
I do, too.
I got to go back to going to the gym again.
Going to the gym.
Today's leg day, ladies and gentlemen.
Leg day.
Legs are important. All right? Leg legs are important all right legs are important all right cool uh appreciate everybody hanging in with us from the stream since 8 30 this morning juice thanks for the ai questions
there's a lot of good questions we had today uh don't go blow all your zeats if you do like i did
gift them to at jesus Yeah. Other than that,
I appreciate not many people
whoring my card out. One guy sold it
for 60 seats today, which was
a massive mistake. I mean, you fucked up.
And I'm going to make you
pay for that. Exactly.
But anyways, alright, cool.
Everybody have a good day. We will see you
too. Bye, everybody.
This motherfucker, he's ready to go
