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Reality Check: XEET Mobile App
Recorded: March 18, 2026 Duration: 1:36:41Space Recording
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Pretty cry in the line in the mess you made Nobody to love you, nobody to kill, nobody to drug you, nobody to kill, you can't. I'm going to go. Yo, GM, GM, GM, everyone.
GM, X went down for a little bit there.
Good morning, did it?
Yeah, it went down briefly.
Yeah, it went down briefly. Yeah, it was pretty weird.
And for some reason, when it went down,
it caused the broadcast link to be fucked up for abstracts or on X.
So like the live x feed and then when i went to go copy it into
abstract it's just like being dumb now um so i don't know what the fuck's happening there
trying to figure it all out but anyways uh gm everyone welcome in Appreciate you guys coming in. Repost the room. Share it. All that jazz.
Same old stuff. Microphone's
popping now, too. What the fuck, bro?
Whoa!
Jesus, Mike's
completely rugged.
He said,
microphone's popping.
You should see the look on his face if you're not watching him on stream right now bro looks completely befuddled oh man um what's
up kenny how you doing while jesus gets his tech back together yeah yeah i'm good i'm good market's
not that great but i'm good you know is it Market's not that great, but I'm good.
Is it not that great? What's going on? What's going on?
Dude, I got to be honest. I'm so desensitized.
I stopped looking at the majors during the bear and just started fucking vibing.
I'm just vibing my way through the bear.
Oh, good God, I just opened the Bitcoin chart.
Yeah, PPI. People don't like it yeah it's that way concerns of inflation um and
we're the the charts are telling a story right now people are a bit nervous um pretty much dumping
across the board bitcoin down almost five percent eat down 6%. Solana 6%. Only thing green on the day is Hyperliquid, holding up 1.81% at $41.36.
But yeah, that rolls over into equities as well.
NASDAQ's down just under 100 points.
Dow Jones is down 318.
And the S&P's down 30.
So yeah, gold down 134. Silver down $3.11. It's across the board right now.
Typically, you know, you get that initial reaction market. The market reacts relatively quickly to,
you know, PPI, CPI, things like that. And, you know, we'll start to see a bounce after the first hour and a half two hours of the
market opening but uh yeah as of right now doesn't look great i mean cpi was gonna be bad right
anyway i mean everything's kind of running off the petrodollar the current global climate is not
great uh right right i mean anytime oil goes up i saw a post
this morning the average price of gasoline now is like three dollars and 86 cents it's the highest
it's been i believe since 2023 so yeah and that affects multiple other other industries it's like
a trickle-down effect right because oil Because oil is tied to so many different industries.
I saw the CEO of Delta came out yesterday and said something like their gas budget or their fuel budget has gone up by $400 million just in the past month because of the war.
So it starts affecting other industries,
production and all kinds of stuff.
So yeah, it just trickles throughout all industries in one way or another.
And yeah, so we'll see how it goes,
but I think we'll be all right.
Yeah.
I mean, all I know is I drive an F-150
with the big gas tank
and it's always well over $100 to fill up my gas tank. It's e it's always well over a hundred dollars to fill up my gas tank
it's uh egregious under any global um circumstances so i'm just used to that
yeah it's not cheap it's not cheap i believe my tank can hold 22 gallons
so yeah i'll be back into the 70 range here next time i fill up fill up my car, I think last time I filled it up,
I was paying just around $3 for premium.
So that's probably going to be like $360, $370 next time I go.
She's back.
She's, are you back?
Are you working?
Is your mic working?
Yeah, I'm back.
Can you hear me?
Yep, I can hear you.
Yeah, I had to go.
Something like I said, something was wrong with X there and something was wrong with X and I had to go live on Twitch.
So I'm still live on X, but it's not reading it on.
It's not reading the data or the links coming across from X right now.
it's not reading the data or the links coming across from X right now.
Maybe abstract caused such an uproar yesterday on X that,
Nikita figured out they were piggybacking off of their fucking broadcast
and rug,
rug,
rug,
rug,
rug,
abstract.
yeah.
yeah,
but we're up and running Hans.
Thank you for being ever so generous. Uh, yes, sir. Thank you so much. The, yeah, but we're up and running. Hans, thank you for being ever so generous.
Yes, sir.
Thank you so much, Hans.
Yeah, so, Kenny, on top of that, yesterday we had the SEC stuff too, right?
The announcements with basically most crypto not being a security.
Yeah, I mean, that was very positive news
regardless though none of it matters unless the clarity act passes and and that's the number one
pressing issue like the the clarity act needs like these are kind of guidelines specific guidelines
of like deciphering what's a commodity, what's a security and whatnot.
But regardless, it's the Clarity Act, which will put things in motion.
And so that is what's like top of the list of what needs to get passed.
Because the reality is, you know, the next administration, if it flips parties, could come in and totally wipe it out.
You know, the next administration, if it flips parties, could come in and totally wipe it out.
But as of right, you know, that's why the Clarity Act is the one thing that really needs to get pressed forward for things to, like, substantially be in place.
So, yeah, but it was good to see them kind of start to clarify, you know, the questions that everybody's had for a long time regarding crypto.
Yeah.
As far as, as like money and
whatnot yeah yeah no it does give it does give some clarity but yeah i agree we do need the
clarity act passed um you know and we definitely need it passed uh before they lose the house
and the senate right you know because if that doesn't happen, then we're fucked. So they got to get their ass to work and get that done.
So, yeah, pretty big stuff.
Other than that, yesterday, the biggest news, obviously,
was the OpenSea stuff continuing on.
Isn't that really the biggest news?
I feel like it wasn't hard to see that coming.
Yeah, there were two really big pressing issues on the timeline.
My feed was nothing but abstract and fucking OpenSea yesterday.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, the abstract thing, I'm hoping they'll just make some adjustments there.
I completely understand, you know, moving the, you know, making adjustments to how XP goes out to promote the on-chain activity that they want.
I just think, you know, somebody sneezed and accidentally moved the slider the whole way to zero on NFTs instead of, you know, down 15% or something like that, you know.
You know, I mean, whoopsie poopsie.
I mean, whoopsie poopsie.
But clearly, you know, look, man, if you're not going to give anything to NFT holders and all you're going to do is promote transactions and volume on chain.
I mean, what happens?
You know, if nobody holds any NFTs, then I think most of the people that are even abstract native just kind of go away.
So I don't know, man.
I mean, again, I understand moving, you know, it's a game of sticks and carrots.
And, you know, you try to incentivize the things that you want, which is, you know, volume and transactions.
I get that.
But you can't just duke everybody that's just holding, too.
Here's my question, though.
If you're an NFT project that wants to build on abstract, is there any incentive right now to go over to abstract and launch i mean
not not an nft brand and i agree with kyle i would imagine the founder chats uh that were in telegram
uh with that each individual one has with with the team not saying all of them but i would say
some of those teams were like bro what the fuck are you doing uh because the charts yesterday i mean i seen people dumping like
zeke cards for some that were worth a lot of money for way less than what they should have been
than selling them we got a little bit of green back today um on chain heroes are up three percent
bearish up two percent other than that everything else is 100 red well hold on you get down here to
plushy houses is up 5.6 percent in the abstra universe whatever in the fuck these are uh but everything else down massively does does redspot
have a nft no redspot's uh i'm pretty sure just a coin right yeah well i saw i saw a post from
them something yesterday that said like something about transactions like you can do this thing you
know act as a transaction every so-and-so
day one see that uh this is kind of what i mean right like you it's probably got something to do
with using agents or something to kind of do a bunch of transactions for you and this that and
the third and it's like look i said this in the tweet I put out earlier, right? The original ethos of Abstract was it was about ease of onboarding, normie friendly stuff, fun games, social interactions, streaming. more recent the whole narrative has turned to you know agentic this and volume that and everything
it's got you got to do a bajillion transactions and a fucking million dollars worth of volume
to get rewarded or at least to feel like you're being rewarded right the part of the problem is
that we did have as much xp as we had before and number go down always feels bad right like if
if i was always only getting this much xp i wouldn't before and number go down always feels bad right like if if i was always only
getting this much xp i wouldn't have even noticed the difference right yeah you got to look at the
projects right here so all right on chain heroes genesis hero up fogs is only down nine percent i
i didn't get the exact numbers yesterday i'm just looking at live data uh within 24 hours. Some of these brands were being held in hundreds
being held by people
just for XP.
Like Pinstracted and Abstractio.
Like they're down 50%, bro.
Another one, this Boomy,
down 51%.
Like a lot of people were holding these
because the NFTs
weren't worth shit.
But they were getting a lot of xp for just
holding the nfts i don't know not to these communities and whoever they are i wouldn't
buy any of them but um they were obviously not as active as some of these other teams and
you know to to slap everybody down like that was pretty it's pretty brutal
like you know i've been on this bitch since june january 11th and um yeah pretty pretty wild that
uh that that was the lowest xp day that i had since i've been this was this was the lowest XP day that I had since I've been on there.
This was the message from Retspa yesterday.
Holders of 10,000 Retspa or more can now claim an on-chain transaction once every three hours at Retspa.com slash claim,
granting you daily abstract XP.
So, I mean, like-
That's smart.
Look, that's smart for the Rzpa team to do that right i by the way
retzpa is the account that told me that my uh tweet many many months ago about uh meme coins
not doing so well was gonna age like milk that that was that going um which you know no hate to
them i mean they're just you know i would sayetspa is one of the bigger meme coins on.
It's one of the funnier ones, too.
I mean, Retspa is like the idea of an angry, aggressive penguin is at least better than just like a penguin that's a slightly different color.
Yeah.
So, like, you know, respect, you know.
I agree.
It's just that abstract, you know.
Oh, here's the thing.
Nobody wants to trade memes anywhere other than Solana.
At least not that's a serious meme trader.
If they want to trade memes at all right now.
And that's what I mean about the original ethos of Abstract.
It was all about community, community building, social interactions, you know.
So trying to force everybody away from that is, I don't know, it's uncomfortable anyway yeah uh gm coin kong what's happening sir
how we doing holy cow i can't believe i even came up on time and no lag yeah it's great it's
fantastic for the first time ever yeah i'm doing good how's everyone else today i'm uh just fucking
actually cooking pulling some smoked brisket out of my fucking way Nice man I haven't had a good brisket sandwich in too long
Can you even get good brisket?
Idiot Kenny
Idiot Kenny and cheese bro
Tonight I would love to show you what I'm building
If you're down to see it
What am I doing tonight?
I can just invite you to my discord
And kind of show you
Running down through all the fucking agents I got
I'd fucking love to.
Heathen, I mean, you don't answer your DMs, brother.
Who doesn't?
Next, let's go.
Heathen.
Heathen's also been building some
cool shit. I always got to give shouts out to Heathen.
Yeah, I mean, I've been trying to get him in
for like the last week. We've been missing each other.
I really want to get his take because he's, you know,
he's fucking headed into all of this and and i'm excited to show somebody that actually knows what
juice knows what he's doing you should go slack him around too juices all all bought it up he's
got agents yeah i i i even ordered i ordered uh djx spark which is you know it's like a five thousand dollar super computer
i'll be running 200 200 billion dollar models from my house uh so i gotta ask the question
that comes for free the question that comes to top of mind is how do your agents handle your
shitty wi-fi connection all the time i mean does that is that a nerve at all well well the thing
is is that when you hear me i'm on my phone when. When I'm on, I don't have an issue.
I know, I know.
I'm just kidding.
That's right.
But yeah, do it good, bro.
I'm fucking just excited, bro.
Like, I'm really excited about this fucking bear market that we've been in.
Because it's like, I'm starting to see, like, I feel like the space as a whole is just kind of, it's kind of growing up a little bit.
You know, like, the fucking people that are always assholes will always be assholes. But I feel like the rest of the people staying around are kind of like
getting to a place where it's starting to change,
change the space a little bit. You know what I mean?
It's starting to grow up a little bit. You know what I mean?
I'm actually, I'm pretty excited to see what's going on.
Well, the best like stuff comes to the surface in the bear market, right?
In a full bowl, you know,
the dumbest
can can work and oftentimes gets the most attention right because it's just a money grab play and
everybody knows what the game is but yeah i mean it like the the stuff that's being built out in
a serious capacity is the only stuff anybody cares about in a bear market yeah absolutely
but yeah doing good guys thanks yeah man and by the way cheese we get fucking
there ain't fucking it's not like brisket gets better closer to the equator we got brisket up
here motherfucker oh no put some speck on the fucking pennsylvania food culture bro the bar
i used to hang out at used to do a brisket cook-off where like all these fucking rednecks
would come down out of the mountains with their smokers there'd be like 30 fucking smokers set up in the parking lot of this bar and they'd leave these smokers running
overnight dude and then everybody'd come back the next day and just have this fucking giant
brisket fucking like uh competition type thing yeah talk to me when you come from the brisket
capital of america well it's not fucking houston i can tell you that yeah well i'd say i'd say this
you know i fucking opened up
in Austin for a little while. I went to all
the biggest ones, and outside of Black's
and maybe two others, most of the
brisket was fucking dry and trash.
So...
I mean, there's a lot of barbecue restaurants
definitely in Texas, but
man, you gotta come down to Houston and try
Gatlin's. It's fucking
delicious, bro. i'm gonna be opening
i'm gonna be opening up back in austin again um in july so maybe i'll make a trip down to see you
let me know man you're not gonna meet up with him kenny it's just like you saying yeah let me go look
at these bears yeah dude kenny is the king kong will drive to your fucking stoop and you will still not open
the door this motherfucker is talking about the one time he was in houston yep calls me up like
six hours six hours before i made it to houston i called him i was going to a fucking white stripes
concert at the time it was was a Jack White concert.
And I was like, yeah, I can't make it.
Sorry.
You know?
The things you do.
Now, I call Bibbles.
And I'm fucking not even an hour away.
I get to his house.
This guy has beer waiting on me.
Fucking took the rest of the day off.
The guest bed was already
made folded back
and then we went out and fucking partied all
night went to a people
event and then on top of that
some weird shit
happened where we ended up eating sushi in a
dive bar at 2 in the morning
so like
you know your boys
show up for you if coin kong said hey geez i'm gonna be in
chattanooga you know do you want to hook up you fucking right when are you getting here i'll pick
i'll fucking pick you up from the airport kenny no can't even bother fucking just like sliding in
and just you know at least just say it high. Fuck.
I see how it is, Kenny Powers.
See how it is.
I was going to be in Houston next weekend,
but never mind now.
Not doing that.
You might have a fucking... You might have something else going on.
I don't know.
You might get a girlfriend by next weekend.
Yeah.
But anyways, Coin Kong.
Yeah, I would love to hop in there later.
So just shoot me a DM.
I don't think I have anything
happening tonight.
But yeah, I'm down.
Down with it.
Alright, where were we at?
Kyle was fun.
I think we were funning abstract.
No, no, no.
There's no Wii.
There's no Wii. You got a mouse in your pocket motherfucker because look i ain't even fun abstract i'm just saying
that like what i am seeing them do is not necessarily in my opinion it's just my opinion
i don't think it's healthy for the overall uh community on abstract as far as like growing
the community there that's all I'm saying. I get where
they may see it as a way to promote the on-chain metrics that they want to see. But I think,
I think it's going to backfire because it's just going to kind of fuck off a lot of their
participants. But that's just my opinion. You know, I obviously don't run a successful business
of any sort. I sit here on a fucking Twitter space every day and talk my shit.
And that's about all I do.
So I'm always very cautious about speaking in too much certainty.
Yeah.
Well, B said, yeah, feels like top NFTs like bearish, OCH, etc.
should be pushed with XP.
I agree.
Well, and look, the other side of it is if you're an NFT project who came in under
the original ethos of Abstract, you've taken the nerf to your brand of being on an L2. Being on an
L2 is a friction point, period. Like being on chain is a lot of friction for any brand, but it
is a way to garner attention from the niche community of, you know, Web3 native people.
But every time you go off mainnet, if you're not on one of the L1s,
if you're not on Solana or Ethereum, you know, you're creating another friction point.
Yeah, by being on an L2.
And, you know, Abstract has grown an organic community over there, I think,
that shadows significantly other L2s.
But, you know, you got to keep that community there.
You got to keep them happy and healthy and promote that community.
Yeah.
And, you know, the more you do to nerf that community,
the more people will just fuck off back to mainnet, you know?
Yeah.
Especially with, you know, I mean, it's not that long ago that Vitalik
and them were talking about how, you about how all these upgrades to Ethereum mainnet are eventually going to make a lot of these L2s kind of pointless.
And I distinctly remember my response to that being, yeah, but abstract, the point of abstract was never, oh, it's low gas fees and fast transactions. It's about being super normie friendly, being able to ease of
onboarding, all of the stuff that's going on with the abstract portal. It makes it super easy for
these communities to become vibrant. And, you know, it's just my opinion, but I don't think
that this recent adjustment to XP is in alignment with all that. No, no. It took a few days for them to readjust it.
So maybe we'll see.
Maybe we'll see that happen here soon.
If anybody's watching on stream,
we'll talk about this afterwards
because Hans just came up.
But I did want to talk about Doodle's AI
and show Hans's post.
I think I have it pinned at the top, too.
But his GU came across pretty good.
I like that.
Oh, yeah, look at that.
Pretty cool.
I tried using this shit with my PFP.
I'll show you that picture in a minute.
It did not look nothing like
what my fucking PFP looks like.
Hans, GM, sir, what's happening?
Hi, guys. How are you? How are you doing?
Doing well. GM, Hans, doing good, brother.
Yeah, I'll just,
I disagree so much with your
XP story, man. Come on. No, I know,
I know. You're just a bunch of whiners.
Oh, yeah. Fucking tell them.
No, we had already had a little
back and forth in the comments. I didn't hear you
complain when it got to 50k because of what nobody knows.
Yeah.
And now it's down to three and, well, the whole chain is fucked.
Come on.
Well, hold on now.
Because, okay, when I went to 50k, this was my opinion at the time,
I thought it was because they were making up for the lack of XP from when we staked our bears.
When I staked my bearish NFTs,
I took a big nerf in XP and I think it's because it wasn't reading them. And then the following
couple weeks I think they made up for that. Yeah well maybe, but still, why should they make up for
it? You got an NFT, you stake it to get some burr and then you want the other rewards as well.
You got an NFT, you stake it to get some BRRRR,
and then you want the other rewards as well.
You like it double.
Yeah, Kyle.
And you think that that's the responsibility of the chain.
I don't get it, man.
Well, the question is, why is Bearish on Abstract to begin with?
They could be on mainnet doing just fine.
If you look at mainnet ETH, there's NFTs going from free mint
to pretty successful floor prices.
I mean, look at Del Mundo's went well above the floors of,
I think, almost any abstract NFT there is right now now and it's just because they're on mainnet and
so they have access to a lot more liquidity than what abstract has right now yeah but if you look
back to the launch of barry bearish the only nfts that ran at those at those times were the ones on Abstract. There was a lot of hype around the launches on Abstract.
Yeah.
And they took profit of that a lot.
Yeah.
I mean, I understand why they went for Abstract.
Everybody wanted to be on Abstract
and everybody wanted to be the first.
Yeah.
And they did it.
Good.
And even then they had a hard time minting out.
And I love that team,
don't get me wrong,
but they made
a huge step forward
by going on abstract.
These guys are not new.
I mean,
nobody cares about
the brawler bears.
Yeah.
Nobody gives a shit.
And now they have bears.
Damn,
hard to argue
with the fired up Hans, bro.
Yeah,
but I mean,
come on. They made a big step in their community
because they are on abstract.
Because they were the first.
Because there was the token launch.
Because all the fuss about abstract.
But what is your...
Same as Bosu.
But what is your take, though,
that's still holding these active NFTs, though,
in these communities?
Those should be rewarded in some way,
not fully neglected.
They are rewarded.
You got one week with a bound number.
That's it.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but I mean, we're just...
You've been whining in a month or so.
Not now.
You didn't whine when you got 50K.
Well, look, let me be clear.
It's not like I'm leaving abstract.
Oh, no, you whine, bitch. TakeK. Well, look, let me be clear. It's not like I'm leaving abstract.
Take it from Hans and fucking love it.
Look, I'm just pointing.
Look, you know, everybody's all happy when an idiot's happy
and he's bullposting everybody's bags.
But the second I have a negative opinion, now I'm whining.
I'm just speaking on what I'm seeing and what my opinions are,
like I always do.
That's all.
I had to fix this.
I know.
Get Kyle right in.
Oh, God.
I hate it when he does this.
You're being like Kenny today, bro.
You need to calm down.
I'm going to fucking leave.
Kyle's over here waving.
I'm going to leave StreamYard here in a second.
I hate it when he zooms in on me.
Kyle's over here waving his gun and shit.
He's got a grenade.
No, you know what?
I actually looked up the Twitch rules because we're technically,
I'm actually technically streaming on Twitch.
You know, you're not allowed to show firearms and shit on Twitch
unless you are at a gun range practicing good gun safety.
If I pick up my pistol and start waving it around right now,
I could get my Twitch account banned.
Oh, well, yeah. Don't do that. Don't do that right now, I could get my Twitch account banned. Oh, well, yeah.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
Yeah, I'm not going to do that.
Hans, Hans, it's a great...
That's the only thing.
If you start waving your gun on that thing,
you get arrested.
Yeah, that's fair.
All things are not equal.
It's definitely a great take,
and I get what you're saying.
Nobody was bitching when they had max XP,
and now all of a sudden the chain sucks and, you know.
No, but I agree with Kyle that the fluctuation is too high.
I mean, I can explain why I got like...
I usually get like 7 or 10K,
and since I got the Pudgee, I got like 14 or something like that.
And all of a sudden I got 50.
Yeah.
And then I got back to 7. Yeah. So, I got like 14 or something like that. And all of a sudden I got 50. Yeah. And then I got back to seven.
Yeah.
So, I mean, the predictability is a fair point.
But not rewarding NFTs, you don't know that yet.
They didn't reward them one week.
Come on.
Well, I mean, one of their mods, Abschud, was in the discord literally saying that abstract is not an nft chain
and nfts were not you know good luck to the people holding nfts for uh getting xp and i agree i agree
with a lot of point i could cherry pick a lot of good points like eli saying that people that have
been holding forever from the beginning like lu Luca said, should still be getting XP.
Should they get 500,000 XP?
Probably not.
I mean, it's kind of wild, but, you know, at the same time,
there shouldn't be that big of a fluctuation, you know.
But maybe.
But fluctuation is never good.
So going from 50 to 3 is really good.
Yeah, but for the record,
I didn't go from 50 to 3 either.
I went from, there were several weeks
where I was right back to my normal XP
that I had been getting,
which fluctuated somewhere in the 20k range, right?
I was, you know, high or low in the 20k range
for fucking like forever, right?
And then the bearish thing happened i went
to 17k there was two weeks of 17k and then there was two weeks of 50k that i i and i don't know
this to be a fact either but i think that was all related to the bearish staking i don't think so
because i went to 50k as well did you and so did i i went to 58, and now I'm back to... All I know is my average for the longest time, my normal XP was around the mid-20s.
And then over the course of the last week, I have done more volume and more transactions than I have ever done in a week because of the Z cards.
And I'm down like 80%, you know, on XP, which is, just you know it's i don't know man i mean it's
just like it's hard to know what to do because they sound like they want transactions but man
i mean i i literally i bought 60 fucking couple nfts over the course of that week with these
with these uh z cards now maybe the z cards aren't getting xp yet i don't know but or maybe 60 transactions
does it just isn't not that much if you if you play that plinkoo for an hour you got like
hundreds of them yeah but you know they're always trying to beat this narrative that abstract is
just a bunch of gamble five products too right that's one of the big criticisms i always hear
and i always argue with those people when they make that criticism that no, as a matter of fact, I don't gamble that much. I participate in these communities.
I hold these NFTs. I play their games when they drop a game, but I'm, I'm rewarded without
gambling a fuckload. Right? So like this idea that abstract went from supposed to being
normie friendly to being a gamble fight chain. I, I have vehemently disagreed with that.
But it's hard to disagree with it now. But again, and I get your point too, Hans. This is only one
week. It's one data point, right? That's my whole point. Yeah, and I agree. That's not enough to say
that this is the new ethos of abstract it's just it's just an effort to you
know give the social feedback to the chain so that they can adjust you know as they need it's not like
i'm like hey fuck abstract you know but they also have to be careful because if they if they give a
perceived value that nfts give you very minimal to no rewards it's gonna cause some people and we've
seen it yesterday even with the higher projects uh that's gonna cause their floors to drop people
are gonna not hold because they're not getting the the benefits that they were once getting
or even half or a percentage of that it's it's like down to nothing. For me to get the lowest XP
ever after... I can understand
if I went on vacation for a week and I was gone
from X completely, didn't
stream, didn't do nothing, but I
probably streamed like nine times,
maybe even ten times last week.
I did a fuck ton of transactions
with Zeet like Kyle did.
I did Tolan... Not Tolan Universe.
I did Blinko. I did
the Death Game. I did
the Moonverse, the Moon fucking
canon game.
I did a lot of shit last week.
And to get my
lowest ever?
Bro. It would be one thing if it was
my lowest ever because I was always in the
20s and now I got 19.
But I'm down like 80 85
percent like it's like unbelievably agreed there was how down there were some people that were
tweeting they got like 15 z like kenny got well of course kenny's not as active but he got like
on the other side there is the fact that like if and this is a fair point by abstract and the rest of these guys if you're only holding the nfts to farm xp then the nft project is bullshit anyway
right which which is too much which is you know in the tweet i wrote i was very specific like i'm
still riding for fucking bearish i'm still riding for on chain but you're also i'm still riding for
giga you're also asking i just don't know abstract though i'm not asking them to leave i'm just saying if this
is the way that it's going to be going forward what is the reason to be on an l2 to begin with
where there's much lower liquidity going on you know what i mean like that's the only point and
it's just a question i'm it's not a i'm not saying hey everybody you know pack up your tents we're going to base that's not what i'm saying
let's say they do they go to base then what xp do you get
well i mean look the point there would be if you do have your own community if you do like the
the question is like where where do you have your own community, if you do like the question is like, where,
where do you have the most liquidity available to you? Right. Like I don't have the metrics in
front of me. Right. I mean, this would be a Kenny powers doing analytics type thing. Right. I mean,
like how much volume is there on like a base versus a, an abstract? I don't know. Right. And,
and, and how much can like, I like i mean look it depends on what the project
is too right like bearish is not like a transaction rich ecosystem they may be a project that's like
a pfp thing probably better off on mainnet if there's no incentive to be on an l2 of any sort
right i mean this is why i don't fuck with a lot of pfps on a lot of l2s because i would rather buy
pfps on mainnet
because there's just a bigger pool of liquidity available to those projects
um but when it comes to these gaming ecosystems there's obviously a lot more to be considered
right i mean you do have transactions going on and there there is a lot of utility in l2s for
them it's just like what l2 actually has the most liquidity i don't know um what's up wheels oh sorry go ahead on go ahead
well i just want to say take into account what they got when they went to this chain the upside
they have for for getting on to abstract uh what two years ago one year ago what was it one year
ago uh it was big they had a big upside with going to Abstract.
Right, right. And look, I mean, Wolf Game thought they had a big upside in going to
Blast, but they ended up coming to Abstract for similar reasons. It's not unheard of for projects
to move about from one chain to another. And again, I'm not saying everybody should pack it up and
move on. I'm just hoping that, you know, through critical feedback that you know the team can realize that
they've you know a lot of their community is not super happy about the the the shift that i that
we're perceiving based on the outputs right because i can't see exactly what is being rewarded for xp
but i do see the output which is what i've done versus what i've gotten in return and it seems
like the things i'm interested in are no longer of interest, you know,
to the team over there.
We'll see next week, I think.
And it's always good to sell everything and buy GU.
Absolutely, dude.
Absolutely.
I'm not going to argue with you on that.
You don't need Berish.
You just sell the whole shit.
Absolutely, dude. Send Abstract to fucking Zero and buy. Absolutely, dude.
Send Abstract to fucking Zero and buy GUs, dude.
Let's go.
All good.
I'm just kidding.
Anyway, I appreciate you, Hans.
I do appreciate the pushback.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Hey, Hans, how well have you been doing on the staking stuff in Jiraston, brother?
You holding enough RDAC for that to make a difference? No i got like no i don't have that much i got about two million um so
that's not that that big a deal uh i see i've been fucking crushing the staking bro i'm like
2500 up over the last the last two staking things you got a lot in there then. Yeah, I mean, I got about 1%. I got about 1% of supply of Rdx, but yeah.
Yeah, I mean, this whole Web3 thing for me is not about earning money or anything.
I make my money in Web2 and I'm just looking.
So I joined because I support Jira Sada and i wanted to see what was going on but
i don't know man it's it's it's too fake for me i mean this is what i said if if shaw keeps on
giving these staking with guaranteed yields like you could quickly catch up on a lot of stuff if
we put money on because i mean like being up like, being up 2,500 in fucking 60 days
just from staking,
like, there's not very many projects
out there doing that right now, brother.
I agree.
The return is immense.
And the fun part is
they don't even use your money.
So this is a gift.
And I wonder how long they can keep it up.
But let's see.
As long as it goes, it goes.
He's got, I know right now,
he's got at least four more staking rounds going.
So, I mean, it's still pretty good.
I thought I saw something about a new team or something with Jira's.
Is there like some new,
was there a team rollover or something that happened?
There was a split.
Didn't you get it?
No, I mean, I don't hold any Jira assets anymore.
So, I mean, I just, I thought I saw somebody's post in passing or whatever. The old JiraSan team is
now the redacted team and the OGs in JiraSan now are like the team in JiraSan and the two are
splitting up. So you got the NFT and you got the token. They moved away from the whole concept where they were supposed to create an ecosystem based on Web3 services.
And the token was the liquidity for the whole thing and the NFT holders were the users for the whole thing.
They broke that all up and now Sean is investing in realworld assets and making serious returns on investment there
in a small period of time and you can hook up to that. You can use either USDC or RDAC
and soon to be Tencent because they're moving away to another coin.
Yeah, I think the fact that he's giving you a better price on that RDAC, the 10-set rollover
is fucking crazy too. The fact that he locked that price a better price on that RDAQ, the 10 set rollover is fucking crazy too.
The fact that he locked that price in, brother, that's another level.
Yeah, I'm curious because I'm afraid that the 10 set is going up.
Yesterday it went up and I was upset about that because the ratio is only determined in a week or so.
So let's hope that 10 set remains low, that you in a week or so.
So let's hope that Tencent remains low,
that you get a lot of it.
That's all very interesting.
Wheels, man, you had a question?
I saw your hand up when you came up. Yeah, I was going to speak about abstract,
and then we got on to Jira-san.
I haven't heard that before.
Yeah. No, as was gonna say regarding abstract right kind of um going back to that i i'm not sure what we're even talking about here right like benefits of
on abstract a year over a year ago right it's it's what have you done for me lately in my
opinion and as for holding for xp right you that, I mean, the only reason you're holding these other things, Z, the reason you're holding bearish is for exposure to other drops, right?
Like, it's not just to hold, it's to try to get something out of it.
It's to try to get something out of it.
So that's like XP, NFTs are inherently at this stage of where we are in crypto, an asset to gain access to additional drops, right?
Unless you're talking like punks, MFers, there's some that have provenance, right?
Where it's a little different, right?
But primarily any actively
active teams that's what you're you're hoping for now it's clear like the sentiment on the timeline
as well as the prices of these nfts are directly impacted from this change right it's a negative
change overall right are people crying sure but that's that's your community giving feedback so that's you got to listen right and so in my opinion it was a mistake it was a bad decision
and it's been um kind of a string of bad decisions right i mean i think you see finn the former
abstract team kind of tending some softs oh he said i wouldn't go back if you did. He said I'd rather take a toothpick, stick it under my toenail and kick a wall than go back.
Oh, goddamn.
I didn't see that.
That literally just made me physically cringe.
He replied to Tut.
Tut said, we need Finn back.
And Finn replied and said that.
And I was like, oh, shit.
Yeah, I mean, look, I wouldn't be that hyperbolic look i still like abstract a lot i like a lot of the team members i like a lot of
the ips i like a lot of this shit that's going on you know i hang out with marianne and gmb and them
great people um i think abstract has a lot of potential with what they've built out on the
portal and everything and i completely understand why they want to promote certain metrics all my only criticism is that
when you when you do adjust the sliders of what gets rewarded you got to be careful with how much
and how quickly you adjust them that's all that's all my point is. That was just my two cents on that.
But yeah, we'll see.
Hopefully, you know, they do right by the teams that are bringing volume to Abstract and Gigaverse, On-Chain Heroes, and Bearish, which are really the best products on the chain that are all NFTs.
Yeah, and I completely agree with that. I mean, those are definitely right in alignment with my bag bias.
But look, I would be fucking with these teams whether they were on abstract or not right and yeah but you made it
you would have never you never heard of them when they own the other nft collection you may have
never heard of them they may have not gained enough attention because i agree with what hans is saying
is that the hype on abstract in the very beginning caused a lot of these teams to be successful
when they weren't successful on main net or on other chains so it you know it's it's it's kind
of like yeah you can you can benefit from that but now where we at now and it's kind of like
what will said what have you done for me lately uh in a way of like you you know, but smacking all the holders down.
We'll see what happens next week.
I still think that they will end up
putting some type of kickback on the...
Oh, I think they'll adjust based on the feedback too.
I 100% think they'll adjust based on the feedback.
I think we'll see it before the next XP next week.
I think it'll be just like last week
where we all got a boost. No, we didn't all get a boost. I got ner XP next week. I think it'll be just like last week where we all got a boost.
No, we didn't all get a boost.
I got nerfed last week.
You got a boost.
Okay.
But I got nerfed in a reasonable fashion last week.
You know, it is what it is, right?
I went from like 34K back to the mid twenties,
whatever, no biggie.
You know, that's a,
that's an understandable adjustment,
you know, from my position, whatever.
But going from, you know, to to less than 4k is that's a huge nerf big big time yeah big time yeah um all right uh what's up hero i know he came up
to speak on this before we move off of the subject what's up whatever man this thing
off of the subject. What's up, Kiro? Don't whatever man this thing.
So an idiot just posted a very good post. And I've been listening anonymously because...
Damn, bro. I have my reasons, okay? I represent a company on Abstract. So
an idiot knows I'm not afraid to be unapologetic, but I need to pick and choose my battles. So Jesus,
I wanted to say that I definitely echo an idiot. This is something I said in Marianne's space
yesterday. Things have changed. Abstract is no longer the fun chain. Abstract is no longer
the consumer chain. And abstract from every angle and conversation and room and platform I've seen
is a liability to Lukenetz's reputation. Abstract is no longer associated with Pudgy Penguins.
They want to distance themselves. I've been told this by Saucy and Abschud. And so with all these factors,
right? And again, yesterday, there was an avalanche of statements from Abschud
saying, don't tag Luca. He's not involved with Abstract as much. The quote is in my camera roll,
but if you go on Discord and look at Abschud's conversations, you'll see what I've been seeing for a very long time.
Luca isn't that involved with abstract. Best share with Saigar. So all these factors happening
point to a few assumptions I can make. One, the TGE is not happening in 2026. This is something
we talked about in space yesterday and an idiot didn't necessarily agree. It was an opinion. It's definitely not based on any authority,
but we can see that the levels being leveled on XP give us that year to grind if you're starting
from day zero today and it won't dilute the XP for anybody who is getting the triple digits, right?
We'd all be obsidian by the end of 2027 and we can't have that for a TG.
No, they'll just make more tears.
I don't agree with your statement that TG is not happening this year.
I think it could very much so happen.
I think he's got a valid case to argue, though.
Now, I would say this. I'm only looking at the room and also looking at, we mentioned,
oh, I mentioned yesterday, Marion, GMB's face, OpenSea, right? They're making all the mistakes
we don't have to make, and we being abstract, because OpenSea has delayed after delayed,
and we all knew that the TGE was not going to happen
for OpenSea in quarter one of 2026.
We knew this, but they falsely were dangling a carrot
so they could get that volume on chain
for anybody who's farming.
And that's pretty malicious, I would say.
It's not from incompetence.
So there's a difference between abstract and OpenSea. I would say that abstract, thankfully,
is, okay, bullying works. Okay, so I know I'm going on for a little while, but I have a lot
to say, but I'll wrap it up right now. So bullying works. I'm not saying to bully AppShud. I'm not
saying to FUD. No, I'm saying provide solution-oriented feedback. And they will shift and pivot. And Appshod already paved yesterday, he wrote a pencil emoji to somebody saying, how about we put back XP for those companies that deserve it like bearish? was rugged in July, was still occurring tens of thousands of XP.
But nobody is vetting the XP for NFTs or the abstract featured apps on Portal.
Until yesterday, something is happening, but it's like an idiot said, it's too dramatic.
So, BullyingWorks, speak out about it, and we'll get XP back for bearish
and any other companies and games that are
building and active i want xp for zeep for example they're not getting any xp as we saw yesterday
and i want the uh portal and the spotlight apps curated because we still have 77 bit all due
respect chrono forge we still have a few that have rugged on that spotlight and on that portal that don't deserve that.
So anyways, I'll wrap it up here and say,
bullying works, keep speaking out in a constructive and civil way.
And let's fix that culture problem where if you have something to say, you will be punished.
We don't need that in abstract. All we need is solution-oriented conversation.
We don't need that in abstract.
All we need is solution-oriented conversation.
And we are very fearful to speak up right now as to losing our roles and our ranks on Discord.
I don't want that. I don't need that from our users.
And I really mourn that there is a culture problem right now.
Yeah, well, I mean, look, you said a lot there for sure.
I agree.
Bullying works.
I would just say, you know, the conversation shapes the culture, right?
And being a part of the conversation, I agree with you in that.
I won't go as far as to say that the open sea farming thing was malicious.
thing was malicious. I said it to Adam yesterday on Captain Space. I think they were playing a
I said it to Adam yesterday on Captain Space.
game of chicken with the markets, hoping that things would look better than they ended up
looking because they made a promise way, way far ahead of when they should have been making
promises, right? And I think a lot of teams have had to learn this lesson. Web3 is way too volatile
to be talking about what you're going to do six months from now, right? You just, you can't be making promises about what's going to happen at the end
of the year or in six months or even in three months or a month sometimes, right? And a lot
of teams have had to learn this the hard way. And, you know, look, man, to say abstract is no law.
This is where sometimes some of the stuff that you say gets my back up a little bit because you're saying stuff from a factual point.
You're saying abstract is no longer the fun chain.
They've tried to shift things.
That doesn't mean that they can't shift back or make adjustments or whatever.
I don't want to be,
I don't want to be too certain about anything.
I want to get back to that,
that point of,
you know,
having the conversation that shapes the culture on the chain,
which,
which I do completely agree with you on.
And,
you know,
I think stuff like this is productive.
You know,
I personally,
I mean,
I don't hang out in that discord.
I don't hang out in any discords. I'm too, on on x and in like real life so like i i don't know i
haven't noticed if people are feeling threatened about their discord roles or whatever i i don't
know i maybe i should go check and see if some deserve it right some deserve it let's be honest
some deserve it but before stripping, I would say enforce suspensions.
Because how, I'll say, how tragic it is to have someone build a rank up over a year.
And then they get emotional, illogical.
And maybe they deserve to be stripped of the roles.
But now it makes everybody afraid and fearful.
And I'll say this.
I want Abstract to be the fun chain.
I want Abstract to be the consumer chain.
I want Luca. I want Pudgies to not have, to treat it like a liability.
But they've come a far away from that because of, you know,
incidences regarding Finn maybe that I can't control or know of.
And then we saw Logan released or maybe not that I can't control or know of. And we've seen a shift to focus on, you know,
avalanching transactions through AI agents,
which is not the initial ethos of abstract,
but there's pivots and pivots.
And like you said, what was the quote?
You said a voice determines culture, an idiot?
The conversation molds the culture.
Yeah.
And so right now the conversation is a way, a way far and away from the initial conversation a year ago.
And that's fine.
But I wanted to get back to a combination, a fusion, you know, a compromise of both AI, up and developing technologies and the consumer chain and fun.
But we've seen a lot of missteps with XYZ, right?
seen a lot of missteps with xyz right the ultraman initiative i'm very wary of i'm very apprehensive
The Ultraman initiative.
of touching any of that because we see that i don't know to zero and then we see amigo dead on
arrival all due respect but they were tone deaf they didn't read the room z however proved otherwise
they are extremely effective but yet they're not on portal spotlight
so who's not listening here i don't know they adjusted people crashed out about that right
and right bullying works bullying works yes we need xp for z now and trust me i don't play with
z i just see it is it is strange that z is now a spotlighted app and also didn't seem to garner any XP whatsoever
for a fuckload of transactions involved.
I mean, literally for like two weeks.
Over 5,000.
Was number one in volume on the chain.
Yeah, but last week alone,
over 5,000 wallets had at least one transaction last week.
On ZeeT itself.
So that's, I mean. Yeah, Jesus. I did my research on everything you mentioned in yesterday's space, transaction last week. On Zeep itself.
I did my research on everything you mentioned in yesterday's space and I
respect that research. Those numbers hit.
With what?
Everything you said yesterday
and specific users,
use cases, you know, that
user with 300 bearish and did
20k in Zeep. This is all
things you talked about in space i tracked
down those tweets yeah this is this is how we win right and we being the people right we don't bully
with fud fear and 17 doubt we we i don't know i don't know bully should be used as the right word
because i i use it as a euphemism it's kind of a but it's like a joke yeah but like if closed
mouths don't get fed right and? And then voice determines culture.
Conversations depends culture.
Good sound bites today.
Yeah, no, I know.
But you even as a team representative,
I don't even know if you should be using that word.
How do we get swirly's online?
What?
How do we get swirly's, right?
Is there a way to get like digital swirling?
Yeah, dude.
I mean, we could drop an NFT project on Abstract
and call it Swirlies and just send them to people's wallets.
Yeah, shut up, nerd.
Yeah.
We can do that.
Dejani, what's up?
I'll say this just to wrap this conversation.
Yeah, because it's been going on fucking.
Yeah, I know.
And look, the conversation has been a negative tone on Abstract.
Abstract's still my favorite chain right now.
Like, every fucking button I click is still on Abstract. Abstract's still my favorite chain right now. Like, every fucking button I click
is still on Abstract here at the moment.
All my favorite blue chip NFTs
haven't done a fucking thing in years.
You know, it is what it is.
It's just a bump in the road for Abstract.
And I'm sure that they will course adjust,
course correct, you know, quickly.
It is what it is.
You know, and I look forward to moving forward
anyway airdrop to 2027 uh 2028 uh is what it's looking like yeah why not dude why not 2028
um all right some updates on the bearish uh march madness we're not allowed to say march
madness anymore because they got i'm funny they got hit with a cease and desist.
So it is now called Abstract Mania.
But they did add a Maze of Gains bracket.
And that one is free as well.
201 entries in that so far.
A lot of entries coming in.
Kenny, we're in the 400s now on a lot of the free ones uh what
do we add on the 0.0 uh the 0.0251 still just one entry you know i hate to derail the 20
minute sports section that we're about to get into but kenny powers don't you have a phone call to
get on right now uh no not for another so like is luca is luca distancing himself from abstract is that what i
heard i don't think so directly i think what's going on is that chain uh i was financing it i'm
actually really all in on pudgy so like oh man that sucks if abstract dies man like look i wasn't
involved i don't know what to tell you i don't know i haven't seen anything to indicate that i
think it's just that luca is the head of a bunch of penguins and he has people who he
has hired and paid to run abstract it's still all related certainly and i'm sure pudgy penguins and
all that are gonna clean up on it let me ask you this question if luca actually did that what would
you do like what like what would you what is your argument what would you say i respect it business
is business baby i mean what are you do? There's nothing you can do.
There's no different than users of
lies.
Hell yeah. So, Luke, if you're listening to this, you just got
verbal permission by the community.
Well, I mean, there's no different than you doing the same thing
with yours.
No, the difference is...
Very different
because I didn't raise
fucking like $10 to $20 million.
There's a big fucking difference.
If you raise money and then you move on from it, I mean, there's.
Right, but I didn't raise money for that.
It was a sale.
I don't think Luke has gone anywhere.
Does he not talk about it as much?
I mean, you have a qualified team over there.
I just want to see how you guys. I just want to see how you guys squirm about this.
Yeah, I could give two shits.
I just want to see the chain succeed.
That's all I can do.
I have to go to the blue chain.
No, I have to go to base.
Jonah's back on one.
This motherfucker drinks way too early.
Way too early.
Jesus Christ. Get off my
lawn. No,
Luca, please. I have abstract
points. Please, Luca, stay.
Well, I also think they don't want people fucking
tagging Luca a bajillion times
to fucking air their frustrations
about abstract. Luca, I want to make the front page, Luca.
It's over, Luca. There is a whole team. It's over, Luca.
There is a whole team of people who are paying to manage Abstract.
Hold on, hold on.
It's
warranted to tag him. He is the
founder of Abstract.
Luca, I followed and I can't get up, Luca.
I need a hot ambulance, Luca, please.
I just gave Jonah a follow.
He's the founder of
Pachi Penguins, but he is not the founder of Abstract.
Abstract was before Float.
Do you know how many videos there are of Luka Nets talking about Abstract change?
Me? That's not Luka Nets.
That's Luka Nets.
That's why I don't think he's gone anywhere.
And there's no problem.
You literally have a qualified team over there that can handle it. That's why I don't think he's gone anywhere. And there's no problem.
You literally have a qualified team over there that can handle it.
That's my twin.
Shona, dude, when are you going to hang some shit on your walls so there's not so much fucking echo over there, dude?
I know, it sounds like he's taking a shit right now.
I'm sorry, I have so much.
Echo rings of loneliness, brother.
You need a fucking woman to fucking decorate your house, brother.
I have so much space in my house.
Oh, what am I going to do?
All this square footage.
Import yourself a Latino like I did, brother.
That's what you need to do.
Yeah, you'll fill it up real quick.
I did yesterday a post about XRP, and it got over 30,000 views.
Well, good job.
Good job. Yeah, that's called the XRP and it got over 30,000 views. Good job.
That's called the XRP army.
If you talk shit about XRP...
They have been so pissed about me.
You will get pummeled, bro.
The XRP
army is...
They don't fuck around when it comes
in their bags, bro. You gotta
tread lightly when you're
talking about XRP.
How the fuck did we just end up talking about xrp johnny is the king of the hard pivot dude johnny's like
hey you guys know that thing that you're talking about right now let me just fucking go with you
luca please luca i have ripple points all right let's say uh Let's say what's up to Juice, too, real quick.
What's up, Juice?
I know you came up here to be a smartass, too, but what's up, buddy?
Yo, I just dropped Jonah a follow after three years of hearing and interacting with him on places.
Good talk.
Yeah, your service is just about as good as your national hockey team.
I got a phone call.
Yeah.
I think that's hilarious.
Yeah.
I think Luka has everything to do with abstract.
And if he's not a part of it anymore, then that's a huge L.
I mean, I'm not seeing anything guys took these hair
pills and my dick won't get hard luca help yeah the only one that's if you guys aren't gonna get
paid unless luca's a part of it yeah and luca's not gone nowhere i'm telling you there's can
someone point to me what how the fuck did we even end up on this Lucas not in fucking having anything to do with that?
Because fucking old Tiro down here
fucking brought it up with his exact...
I have the screenshots, right?
And I have the conversations in XDMs
and on Discord.
But that's fine.
Okay, I'll send it to you guys individually
because I don't need to perpetuate
inaccuracy, but it is a conversation piece.
Okay, let me just
end this conversation about Luca with this.
Bob Chapek was hired
by Bob Iger. He was a liability.
He was fired. Okay? As of today, Bob
Iger is officially retiring from Disney.
What does Disney have to do with Abstract?
Everything. Disney's Igloo, right?
And then we call Abstract the fun chain, the
Web3 Disneyland. So what I'm saying is
Bob Iger hires people to run MCU, Marvel properties on Disney and hires people to run Star Wars on Disney.
They don't cross over.
They don't touch each other and they don't fuck with each other's business.
He's stepping down from Disney today because he was bad at his job.
No, he was amazing.
And he retired with the wrong successor.
But let's talk about
disney later what i'm talking about is luca now luca you made a bad example that's all i wanted
to say oh that's completely fine god damn it there's no crossing swords here so you just sum
it up by saying luca's not crossing swords with anyone at abstract and i'll say this abstracts
is a property of uh igloo right it was uh they
obtained they they bought out frame and johnny they bought frame and then luca founded abstracts
on frames framework so now we have igloo owning pudgy penguins and igloo owning abstract and
they're very different companies but they do touch tips and now they they're saying no. And that's fine. I respect it.
But who's saying no?
They are.
There's nothing out there publicly
that says that they're saying no.
And I don't believe it.
Oh, yeah.
It's everywhere.
Asasi's been saying it.
Marianne, GMB,
which they're affiliates of the...
I got a better question.
And Abshud,
who's an employee of Abstract.
And it is a very clear definition
that they are,
one, moving away from Abstract,
and two, let's not bother Luca with these topics.
And I agree with them.
And I am distressed because I wish Abstract was not a liability.
I wish they would lean into the Pudgies because they have everything to gain and nothing to lose.
But who has anything to lose as Pudgy Penguins as a company if they associate themselves with a failing, sinking ship?
That's right.
Go ahead, Jonah.
Go ahead.
The question that you need to ask yourself
is not whether he
supports the chain or not. The real question
you have to ask is,
if you were Luca and you
looked back at all the things you did, would you regret
that you created or put your
name on Abstract? And if the answer is yes, would you regret that you'd created or put your name on abstract?
And if the answer is yes,
then you kind of know how things are going internally.
I mean, I don't think so.
I mean, I don't think Pudgy Penguin would be where it's at right now,
to be honest, if it wasn't for the whole abstract narrative to begin with.
I personally disagree on that, but maybe I'm wrong.
That's an awesome thesis.
I love that conversation for later.
I will talk to you in the back ends, idiot.
And Jonah.
All right, man.
I'm going to be honest.
I like you, but I'm really here to just troll.
I don't care about this topic.
Oh, fuck.
You act like I'm just meeting you for the first time, Jonah.
I was just told don I was just told, don't listen to
Chiro.
It's what I was just told.
By who?
By Joe? No, by Saucy.
Because I asked Saucy straight up.
I said, is Luca no longer
part of that?
I'm going to post a thread.
I'm going to post a thread talking about how i want to i
want to get answers like i want to fucking know the truth so like that's the whole point
well i mean look the reason and you know i'm not trying to be a dickhead here kiro but the reason
i'm struggling to take you seriously on this is because you've said other wildly hyperbolic shit
as if it's factual today as well.
Like, you know, it's just, it's hard for me to take this on its, on its face.
Right. Take it on the face though. You like it.
That's true.
He just came and fucked y'all shit up.
All right. Well, that was interesting.
He said he might be focused on Penguin stuff, but he's definitely still involved with Abstract.
I love that. And I DM'd you this screenshot part one i'm not gonna flood the leaders you can have a harem it's not
one girl or the other i always remember that i love it holy shit remember when uh joe and dom
said did jonah just convert from the tiny hat club to the face scarf club what the fuck just
happened to jonah dude what if i told you the Tiny Hat Club is the one who started it?
Tiny Hat Club stays on top.
Indeed.
All right.
I got to go get coffee now.
I'll see you later.
Thanks, Jonah.
Appreciate you, buddy.
Bye-bye.
Don't panic.
The market's bad.
It's just when prices are down, everyone freaks out.
But when price go back, it'll be fine. My life frame is going down more and more.
Anyway, what's up, Heathen? Dude, how you doing?
I just came up here to yell at Jonah initially, but I totally agree with what Idiot said earlier.
We should just return to mainnet.
return to mainnet that's not exactly what i'm saying but it is uh there is something to be said
for um each mainnet at least when it comes to something like an ip pfp type project certainly
right the complexities of gaming ecosystems and stuff like that call for a little bit more uh
maybe l2 type of a action but yeah dude when it comes to just
pfps it's like dude i don't know why not be on eth mainnet there's just so much more liquidity
there also bob eiger's terrible at his job uh star wars has sucked since it landed over there
just saying that's a kathleen kennedy problem and that's an even better comparison i love this
but that's that's movie shit. It's all terrible.
Disney's terrible.
Also, they shouldn't be trying to beat Disney.
They should more go for like a Sanrio type shit.
Ooh.
Yeah, I think every fucking NFT brand from 2021, 2022,
trying to say that they were going to be the next Disney
was actually a huge detractor.
It set the bar way too high for all these brands.
I think Pokemon was also the meta at that time.
Yeah, everybody talked about the next Pokemon, the next Disney.
It's like, dude, you guys are talking about the absolute fucking juggernauts of the space that took fucking 30, 40, 50 years to get to where they're at.
And these motherfucking DGens don't have the fucking cojones to hold for 30 seconds.
The guys who started that probably could manage a team of five people.
So how would they manage a brand of that scale?
Yeah.
All right, cool.
Want to get some other stuff.
OpenC, obviously everybody's going to be, whether or not get into their refunds, whatever.
There's a tweet pin at the top.
This is only for NFT royalty or fees that you have paid.
But quit, OX quit, put out a website yesterday and that you can go there, connect your wallet,
and then we'll show you the amount of fees you have paid just on NFTs. He didn't add tokens
because he said I never traded any tokens on OpenSea.
And he didn't think to add it,
which is kind of wild,
but I do trust him.
So, you know, I connected.
Site came up, gave me a really low amount.
But you can go check it out
and see what you're going to at least get back on NFTs.
I would imagine we're going to see.
He said he was going to update it, but I haven't seen an update yet.
So we'll see what happens.
Other than that, then the fucking Vanity Fair article came out.
Then yesterday, I had put a tweet out uh quote tweeting pawns pawn said that uh they're
speaking with several brands in the background decided uh who we launch first or whether to
launch multiple campaigns at once then he said that there's going to be an article explaining
the squad's potential squad strategies in some of the mechanics behind the Z cards. Then the biggest surprise for me was a Z mobile is going to be launching soon.
And then I think, yeah, the Z account said Z app.
Pretty good stuff.
But then if you go in my quote tweet in the comments,
Scotty actually shared some sneak peeks of the mobile
app, which is
pretty good. You have a favorite sections.
Shows all the different squads.
He has a multiple
there
of what that is. Then there's
just all the different
categories that
are going to be different pages and tabs.
So maybe we see a zeet app this
week that would be pretty fucking dope um you know so i just want to see the article and everything
this week um yeah really i just i i don't look to see the app necessarily this week although that
would be dope but i mean fuck it's already wednesday um i want to see that article this
week i want the info but But dude, I mean,
overall, like this is why I'm so fucking bullish on the bearish team, man. I mean,
these guys are just building and fucking shipping nonstop. Yeah, man. The only thing I have to
really say on that is, in my opinion, they should definitely launch multiple campaigns at once. If
you only launch one tournament, every motherfucking Zeke creator is going to just be talking about
one thing. It's going to overwhelm the timeline, I motherfucking Zeke creator is going to just be talking about one thing.
It's going to overwhelm the timeline, I think, and people are just going to get frustrated.
It'll have the portal effect where people will be muting words and stuff.
I want to see multiple tournaments.
That way the creators on the platform can choose what brands they really want to feel alignment with or whatever and not feel pressured to maybe tweet about one thing.
Maybe they don't align, but they don't want to get behind.
Kenny, you are like echoing so bad, dude.
I don't know what's fucking going on with your iPhone for.
Yeah.
Let's say what's up to Brad and then Anthony.
We got a couple new folks up here, too.
Brad, what up, bro?
GM gang.
Not too much. Hopped up to, you know, shit on abstract, new folks up here too. Brad, what up, bro? GM gang. Not too much.
Hopped up to, you know, shit on abstract, but we've moved on.
So, you know, we can continue to move on from there.
Yeah, I keep trying to move on, but people come on stage and bring it up.
It's a hot subject.
Keep bringing it up.
Yeah.
No, dude.
I mean, ultimately, like, I'm indifferent to it.
My problems with abstract
are completely different from all the nonsense happening with points and zeats and all that
stuff you know um no we can uh we can move on no need to salt the wound all right there we go see
man of the people i like salt man of the people don't go to a high sodium diet actually it's been
working out pretty well for me yeah we're not going to juice kick him off the stage um another thing because he's just gonna add salt
to the wood before we go on let's say what's up to anthony too what's up dude gmgm just uh working
like always work work work work work how you guys doing fantastic good just hanging out man doing
our our normal weekday routine here.
Streaming, talking shit, you know, whatever.
Is there anything you wanted to speak on in particular or are you just hanging out?
I'm just here to hang out wherever the topic goes.
I'm sure I'll dive in because I've always got my fucking two cents to share.
But I'm just playing, man.
Welcome up.
Good to have you.
Somebody just said there was a new update from
Saigar on XP.
Fuck, we were just getting past this.
Go to fucking...
Go to Juice
and I'll read
into this real quick.
I lost my
Giga chat rule. I'm trying to figure out
what's going on. Oh my god, I fucking...
Dude, I fucking love hate you so much, Juice.
I'm going to hate fuck you, dude.
Into oblivion.
Please, Anthony, can you help me get my Giga Chad rule back?
Alright.
So, this is a pretty long explanation, but he said,
we made slight adjustments to the XP given to top NFT collections,
buy on-chain activity, volume, and market cap.
We updated the calculation for many of the long-tail collections
because we received many reports of people mass-holding super cheap NFTs
to farm large amounts of XP.
NFT projects that are no longer active were diluting the rewards for active NFT builders.
This is not the behavior we want.
We will introduce a more dynamic system for NFT holding design and reward the most active collection starting next week.
trying to reward the most active collection starting next week.
This system will adjust week by week and look at trading volume,
on-chain activity, plus overall ecosystem participation.
Example, building interesting apps with your IP.
So he goes on to talk about meme coin holdings.
As communicated to our app builders previously,
there will be an influx of XP given to teams creating on-chain use cases.
That's Z.
So that's definitely going to fucking kick in big time.
You should see what you just said.
What did he say?
It's a tweet.
It says 9-11 if the OpenSea team planned it.
And the airplane's coming at the Twin Towers.
And then it just misses and goes right past it.
Yeah, I seen that yesterday.
Yeah, I seen that yesterday.
Oh, my God.
He said we originally didn't want to change the calculation for Holden's too much,
which is why we tweeted the below tweet three weeks ago.
However, after doing a deep dive into the XP,
distributed to inactive projects,
as well as through the reports of our community had flagged
to us about XP abuse,
we had to make changes to better reward those that are still active.
Hey, look, man, I agree.
There is a lot of dead NFT projects over there,
and there probably is people mass holding them.
I don't know why that would get you a lot of XP.
The way I always understood it was that the projects that did the most volume
got rewarded more XP, and then it kind of like rank ordered down by volume.
So I don't know why dead NFTs would be getting any XP.
I have the answer for you.
Crime.
We saw early days, and this is, everything is not based on authority.
I'm just saying, from what I've observed, early days, there was a lot of whitelists and allocations rewarded to the initial marketing associated teams that were associated with the previous marketing leads of abstracts.
needs of abstract, crime is the answer. Okay. And look, man, I am totally down for,
Crime is the answer.
you know, turning the XP switch the whole way off on dead NFT projects. If there's no team,
if there's no building, if there's no community, yeah, dude, fuck them. That's fine. But you know,
I'm not holding any of those. So I don't know if I'm buying that as an explanation for this week's
XP. But look, man man if they're i'm
100 you know i've been a big fan of abstract all this time i can wait a week and see what it looks
like next week no problem that's a perfect perfectly reasonable ask for me and uh you know
whatever yeah happy to see it if it if it results in more xp for active communities because the dead
ones are getting fucked off then then great. That's actually
great. Yeah, and bro, shout out
to Scotty and them because when
we first did our first stream,
I had
purpose, like, every single
thing you do on Zete's platform
is a transaction.
And it's an on-chain transaction. It uses
a little bit of gas, and
he said that was purposefully done
so they can get a lot of the XP rewarded.
So if they can get a lot of the XP rewarded to Z,
this is going to bring so much more value to the cards
for holding the NFTs.
So yeah, people that have two, 300 Z cards,
they're probably going to cook as long as z is successful you know um i'm
not telling you to go buy all those cards but the people that have had my question is who are these
guys who are what people what what are you talking about to johnny holding 200 300 cards i mean what
do you mean there's a lot of people go look in of cards. Go look in the holder thing. I don't see Dijani
as a 200 plus card holder
because guess what?
All of his NFTs
aren't on fucking abstract.
Yeah, look at it.
They're my cards.
I have 300.
Are you on there now
as all of them removed over?
Look at Magic Mike.
Not yet, but you see.
Magic Mike has 449 cards.
He's got a legendary Aurelius card.
Yeah, I see Lizzie with 336, but I don't see no Dijani wallet.
I see this fake Pudgy Penguin Anna Portis wallet you own that has 172,
but I don't see no three.
Is that a Dijani wallet?
Yeah, I don't.
Did we just dox a Dijani wallet? Yeah, I don't see no three in front of that. I see 172, but I don't see no three. Is that a Dijani wallet? Yeah, I don't. Did we just dox a Dijani wallet?
Yeah, I don't see no three in front of that.
I see 172, Dijani.
Quit being a cheap bitch and get all of your cards moved over to your abstract wallet, Dijani.
Scotty has said this.
You work for a Swiss bank, Dijani.
I know you've been to Epstein's Island at least once, brother.
I know you're rolling in dough, dude.
Scotty said this multiple times
to move your shit on abstract.
And you're going to get fucked
and you're going to be crying just like Kyle
and you're going to be bitching.
Then Hans is going to have to come and smack you back in...
Hans is going to have to come smack you back in place
and get you back in order.
What the fuck, dude?
Han, speak some sense into this fucking Dijani guy.
I'm not going to take this slander.
Well, I'm just saying.
You said the same thing last week
and then you fucking went out
frolicking off in the mountains.
You got to lock in, Dijani.
Oh, yeah.
Tell your wife shit's important and you got to get things situated. Yeah, fuck you, Dajani. Oh, yeah. All right? Tell your wife shit's important and you got to get things situated.
Yeah, fuck you, Dajani.
Yeah, she loves to ski.
Love you also.
Oh, my God.
By the way, I wanted to buy a creeps.
I just saw...
Nobody's buying creeps, bro.
They're just weeping them.
Get out of here.
It's your creeps talk.
Always trying to bring creeps up.
Damn. Jesus, you're going It's your creeps talk. Always trying to bring creeps up. Damn.
You're going to defend your brand,
dude? Here you are with the creeps badge.
You're going to take this from fucking Jesus? He's got a busted up ass nub PFP.
Like, what's this guy going to say?
Where's nub at
right now, Kenny Powers?
Can we get a price check on that fucking community?
Price check is down 99%.
Yeah.
The whole community ran fucking,
they cheated their bags and ran.
I ran another in a double bad situation.
Like,
Hey guys,
just a quick,
just a quick question here.
I have a 20 Z cards.
And I was just wondering like,
does the purse get sent to me in the mail or do I have to claim my purse?
No, fanny packs, bro.
Fanny packs.
It's called a Z-Pack.
They have an option for a gun to slide in the back,
but you're in Canada and you can't have guns.
So, sorry.
At which point we will have a peace token?
A peace token.
That's never happened, bro.
There's a peace and quiet token out there,
but I don't think that's quite the same thing.
Anyway, moving on swiftly.
I don't know what the fuck happened.
Dude, she's went all fire and brimstone there
for that little bit.
Well, because Dijani appeared like,
oh, I got 300 cards.
Look at the holders.
And there's no Dijani with 300 cards.
So until that says...
I believe you, Dijani.
In the app, it is.
She's using Dijani as a punching bag.
I'm not using Dijani as a punching bag.
You got to think, I'm four days without a cigarette in my body.
So I got to vent to somebody.
Dijani, that might be aggregating all your wallets to show you your total.
Congrats, Jesus. Thank you. I appreciate it. Dijani, to show you your total. Congrats, Jesus.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Dijani, yeah, you're cooked.
Until they're all in your abstract wallet,
I'm sharing the holder tab right now.
I don't know how I feel about
fucking cigarette-free cheeses, dude.
He's super aggro.
Like, brother, smoke a cigarette.
Smoke some crack, as a matter of fact.
Take us in.
Fuck cigarettes.
Can we get him some pussy too?
Yo, Johnny, do they have?
Listen, I'm just trying to have a great space.
Do they have really quicksand?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, everyone.
I mean, the bankers, if they're not skiing in the office, they are usually taking things.
Get this nigga fucking nicotine via IV drip.
God, I'm 90C.
Look, we start having a little fun.
And this guy, you know, thinks he can just say whatever.
And we got to explain to everybody that juice is brown again.
Holy shit.
Oh, bro.
Can you put a fucking dox BFB? I'm going to support me juice is brown again. Holy shit. Bro, can you put a fucking docs BFB?
I'm going to. Oh, my bad, yo.
The 5% came out.
Oh, my God.
Jesus, we're all cooked.
And did you saw that Nikita told that nobody will have incentive to post anymore?
Yes.
He said spammers will get smited. Why does everybody
have to go to the absolute extreme
hyperbolic fucking rewording of everything,
dude? That's just like
Dijani claiming he's got 300 cards.
It's because it's for engagement,
Kyle. You have to add the masala on there
to get the response that you want.
I'm not claiming.
If you keep talking about masala people are gonna realize you're not
the right kind of brown for that word buddy you gotta calm down you're revealing too much
are you pakistani brown uh fuck no i'm not pakistani what the fuck bro
wow that's it that's an insult that an insult. That's not a polite way
to answer that question, Juice.
Come on now.
Indian is another insult to me.
He's a caramel king
and that's all you need to know.
That's right.
All right.
We're going down a dangerous path.
Democratic Republic of Congo?
I'm a Caucasian.
I'm not even wearing
a bloody derivative PFP today
and we still somehow
divulged into this
dude i know holy shit i know uh there goes all that's a bonnie balak yeah i don't see fucking
anthony chiming in on any of these fucking topics you know i was gonna say the polite or the
politically correct terminology is punjabi yeah that's I was going to say, but then I didn't want Juice to fucking go all Punjabi fucking mad at me.
Yo, Anthony, I've been talking to this guy for four years, right?
This guy, this guy groups me in with Muslims.
That's what he does.
Who, me?
Yeah, you bro, you're like, my people are bombing people.
I didn't say that.
Bro, get out of here.
I'm like, I have Rosetta Stone
to learn Punjabi.
Punjabi.
I heard you on the phone one time.
I just said, how you doing, brother?
You ain't learning no other languages, dude.
You just almost said Punjabi
with a hard ER on the end.
I heard it, dude.
Jesus Christ.
In defense of our Muslim friends,
I think it's more of us bombing them
than them bombing anybody,
to be perfectly honest.
Yeah.
All right.
Have I introduced you to Americans?
Jesus, do you speak Spanish?
Hear that, Kenny?
Hear that shit?
Kenny.
Jesus, I was speaking what?
No, I wasn't speaking Spanish.
I was speaking Punjabi.
Yo, I was asking cheese, like, something in Spanish.
I was like, yo, is this the word for that?
He's like, I don't fucking know.
I'm like, isn't, like, Spanish, like, the second language of America or something?
It kind of is, yeah.
It is.
They don't speak Mexican in America.
How the fucking much folks know that?
You speak French.
What?
You speak French. That? Juice speaks French.
That's the other side
of Canada.
Come on,
say bye,
my homie.
Juice,
you in Canada?
Whereabouts?
West Coast?
Yeah,
I'm in Vancouver.
I'm in Edmonton.
nice.
It's cold.
Fucking freezing.
Vancouver is beautiful,
but it's a communist
shithole,
unfortunately.
I used to live
on the island.
Yeah,
it's terrible here, bro. Hey, Anthony, I already
trolled the rest of my Canadian friends, but since
you're, as a new Canadian
friend here on the space, did you know that the
American Paralympics
hockey team beat the Canadian
Paralympics hockey team?
How do you guys keep letting
this happen? It's pretty bad, but
not to mention in the
World Baseball Classic, the United States
got their ass smoked.
Yeah, but we got our ass beat by last
night by Venezuela, so...
Yeah, we're not...
Let's be honest, even our best baseball players
are not fucking Canadians.
They just migrated here.
The whole World Series, it was like not one person
was Canadian. Got a bunch of Dominicans that migrated here. No, like the whole World Series, it was like not one person was Canadian.
Got a bunch of Dominicans
that migrated here in the 90s and the 2000s
and they pretend to be Canadian.
Will you become a cricket world nation?
We will be the best cricket team
in the fucking world pretty soon, I'm sure.
Yeah, we got everybody here.
All the champions are here already.
Jesus, this is a crazy space, bro. Yeah, it got everybody's here All the champions are here already Yeah, Jesus, this is a crazy space, bro Yeah, it just goes to
This is what usually happens on a Friday
But we're teeing off early this week
I'm so happy right now
It's so good, bro
Jesus Christ
I can't even talk about the Polymarket bar that's opening in D.C.
Like, that was
Bro, we have 10 listeners let's talk about
the polymarket yeah no we're gonna we'll go back to uh you know cricket cricket and racing
probably the biggest news as of this morning was uh the trade xyz uh you know wall street is going fully on chain on hyper liquid i've seen that yeah
fucking huge 24 7 365 um that's big that's big did hype move significantly from that or no
is it still sitting in the 40s still sitting up green on the day and opposed to everything else massively dumping.
So, yeah, hype is up 4% while Bitcoin is down 4.5.
ETH is down 6.5.
Solana 6.
XRP 6.
So, yeah, big news for Hyperliquid.
All that volume.
Just think about the buybacks they're going to continuously do.
97% and 99% of the revenue goes into buybacks.
I mean, hype is the golden goose of 2026, in my opinion.
Yeah, I think what Abstract needs to do is create the ability to short the market.
That seems to be working out.
I was waiting for that.
I was waiting for that.
Wait, really quick.
What deemed the change of PFP in Idiot?
I love it because it has like the Joker, Shakespearean fit.
Well, because look, if I was going to look,
I know I am well aware of the fact that my response to yesterday's XP
was like in the negative realm of things.
And it's just like, look, if I'm going to if I'm gonna speak on a chain that I'm a fan of
in a negative light, I also want to be supportive at the same time. I'm venting my frustrations
about something, but like, you know, I'm also like, I'm part of this shit. You know what I mean?
Like, I'm not gonna fucking, I'm not gonna FUD abstract with a fucking mega ETH PFP on, right?
Like, you know, I'm here. here i'm a fucking i'm abstract maxi
bro but i've got opinions nonetheless that's why i changed my pfp plus dude i mean this is like i've
rocked this bearish pfp many many times before too i i'm kind of a pfp slut dude i go from one pfp
to the next pretty pretty regularly sometimes two at the same time. I wish. If I could, I would, dude.
I definitely would.
Alright, Juice, what's up?
And then we're going to rug it.
Does Spanish class
come before or after gun safety
in American high school?
It's like way after.
way after. It happens.
Way after.
No, Spanish is first.
No, Spanish is first. It happens in prison.
It happens in prison.
All right, Rugger, yo, I don't want to
go there. Just take it from me.
Yeah, Kyle's starting to eat and shit.
It's going to sound like a horse grazing and
Kenny's fucking walking around
shaking his fucking pre-workout.
Then he's not going to go work out for
three hours and then complain about
how we delayed
him um yeah so either way i'm going to oh nice no you need to be going to your metamask wallet
and moving your fucking cards to abstract is what you need to be doing oh that's the next thing i
have tomorrow home office so i will do that, we look forward to the update, Johnny.
All right, cool.
Everybody have a good day.
We will see you tomorrow.
Peace.
Bye, everybody.
