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Return of the Underground
Recorded: June 19, 2025 Duration: 0:31:58Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, participants explored the implications of immigration reform on workforce dynamics, highlighting potential growth opportunities in various sectors, including crypto. The conversation also touched on California's healthcare policies, indicating a trend towards inclusivity that could reshape community support for blockchain initiatives.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Can you hear me?
Can you hear me?
If you guys can hear me on the spaces,
I can't hear you guys on the spaces.
Yeah, I can hear you, bro.
I'm confused.
Okay, Animal.
I don't know what the fuck are you doing.
I don't get what happened here.
We did everything last night the way we wanted to do it.
And now you're just like trolling me.
I'm muting. I'm turning this off.
You're out of talking spaces because we're doing spaces.
You might not know this.
So mute yourself here, bro.
We're in the spaces.
I can hear you.
I know, but you're trying to talk to me on here.
No, I'm not. I'm muted.
Okay.
Now you're muted. You weren't.
I'm muting you guys.
Hold up.
I'm muting the site.
I'm going to do things like I normally do them.
Good God almighty in heaven.
Oh, come on.
You're like Gary Delabate.
I don't know who that is.
Baba Booey. Yeah, is. Baba Booey.
You don't know who Baba Booey is?
Yeah, I'm Baba Booey.
Where the fuck is this thing now?
Why is this not...
I'll play music on my computer, and it's not letting me.
I don't know what just happened.
Who's Gary Delabonte?
Sorry. Flash Joe. I don't know what I'll start off.
Are you?
Yeah!
Get a funnel, man! all right all right all right all right all right all right cut it all right are you drinking all
right hey yeah i could hear you but the music was playing i swear we did this last night everything
was fine and you guys just forgot everything we did. I'm moving my camera, actually.
I don't want to be right on this camera.
I hear you double, bro.
How did I do it last time?
Are we drinking?
I am.
I just started.
I need to drink.
All right, I'll open the bottle of wine in about 15 minutes.
Let my high come down. No, no.
You're good. Don't even worry about it.
Okay.
I need a mixer.
You don't need to put commercials
on. Why not?
Because we can do that later.
I just want to show you guys.
You did a great job, Animo. Thank you i wanted i'm sorry i'm sorry what do you think
about the intro the only thing that sucks is that we had everybody hey remember the
we deleted it in two minutes so they're gonna go oh they must have canceled the space
that wasn't my fault that was our fault. Specifically your fault. I didn't do anything wrong.
You jumped onto the account.
I'm not even a part of the group.
Can you add me to the group?
Are we at war?
Or are we not at war?
No, of course not.
Are you kidding me?
That crew said we send missiles.
Oh my god, I'm going to have to add myself here.
Hang on a second.
Your underground is part of it, bro.
Hello?
Hey, what's up?
Oh, hell yeah.
Okay, cool.
Who's this?
Lighthorn Electrician.
Electrician.
I like that name.
It's so funny.
It's amazing.
Yeah, I'm trying not to be an electrician anymore.
Please save me.
What do you want to do?
Anything. No, I want to do
a community
build. No, I have no clue. That's a great question.
Building, developing.
I'm getting into network.
About to take some kind of
like, now animals got me thinking
on a different certification than the
one i've been studying for but i'm probably going to just you know spend 200 bucks do that one and
then maybe also do the one he was talking about but i don't know i don't know a lot of a lot of
options yeah i'm telling you to do the ccna um i'm not sure about the Network Plus. I know there's another CompTIA A-plus certification that's kind of,
at least back then it was crap.
But the Network one, I didn't know anything about it.
I think it might be newer, and it could be good.
But I know back in the day, the CCNA, the Cisco certs are like the gold standard.
So, yeah, definitely.
All right.
All right.
All right.
We're just going to kind of reset some stuff here.
All right.
You guys need to reset.
Yeah.
I don't know, dude.
I think animals troll on me on purpose.
What's happening?
Yeah.
Are you?
I'm not trolling you.
Litecoin Underground again? No, I'm just Underground. Oh, Underground. Underground. me on purpose what's happening yeah are you uh i'm not trolling you light coin underground
again no i'm just underground oh underground underground
that's cool so i'm going to talk about all right i'm i was telling this animal i think i'm losing
faith with in uh ai i was all about it i think maybe it's just a big, you think it's just this one AI,
I had a big Gemini AI problem. So let's talk about AI. I think it's a good topic to cover.
So there's, I had this experience, I was trying to do some real basic math. I mentioned this
yesterday and it didn't work and it was really bad. It wasn't only bad, it was confidently bad.
And it would use bad information to make more bad information.
And I want to know what's going wrong with it.
Like, is it just an interpretation thing?
Are you paying money for it?
Because not paying money for it, they'll give you a stupid version if you pay money for it it's it's
good i promise you all right what's the best what's what would you use give me an example i have a i
have paid for gpt and then got throttled after uh not paying for it and it's like night and day
it's like actually an idiot like it'll give you like the first 10 prompts on paying for it and it's like night and day it's like actually an idiot like it'll
give you like the first 10 prompts on free for like and it'll be smart and then out of nowhere
you're just talking to an idiot that forgot everything it's like whoa what is going on
but if you actually pay for it's like you got your whole like setup is is always remembered
and you can like crawl through everything so you can like that was the thing i was asking i was
like hey can you recall previous conversations?
If I give you some basic parameters, can I refer back to those parameters and you'll remember them?
He's like, yeah.
And then the next day, he's like, oh, I can't recall that.
I'm like, dude, you just told me.
I recommend just spend $20 on GPT for the month.
Literally just do it.
Bro, I get $20 to death.
I know.
Everybody does. And that's why you do it. You do it bro i get 20 bucks to death i know everybody does and that's why you do
it you do it and you kill it immediately and then when it runs out freaking runs out you know
yeah do you ever try gemini i have not i've tried i've been uh working with cursor lately
which has a bunch of different models which i think gemini is on it. You might have to flash 2.5 flash or something.
Yeah, probably.
Okay.
I got to retweet this.
If I retweet this from my computer,
do you think it's going to screw things up, Animal?
I think you accidentally closed the thing.
You think I accidentally closed it?
Yep.
Yep.
Can we change the name of the space to Animal Park?
You're turning into Baba Booey.
Yo, why?
Baba Booey.
Will you pull?
Okay, Chief.
Can you pull Baba Booey?
Make me a co-host.
Give me a couple seconds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Animal?
Shouldn't I be co-host?
No, make me co-host.
An animal?
You should be talking on an animal's account.
I thought we...
Dude, we had this all sorted out.
I am talking on my account.
Are you?
Yeah, he's talking on his account.
He's good.
Don't yell at him for no reason.
Dude, I'm just...
Gosh.
I was all excited.
I was all excited.
American dream.
Don't forget that we're living in the American dream.
I'm doing the best I can here, boys.
I honestly do it because my girlfriend
came home late from work and she's like,
okay, we need to do exercise. I'm like, okay, fine.
Then I had to take a shower. Then I had to make
supper, but I didn't have time.
That's why I'm eating fucking this.
It's a fucking shake, bros.
Okay. We can go take a break.
He's hangry.
I see.
On top of it, she didn't put enough milk in it can go take a break. He's hangry. I see. Yeah, and on top of it, she didn't put enough milk in it.
Go take a break.
Yeah.
She knows better, too.
All right, guys. We'll be right back.
You're taking a break.
I want to hear you get
Baba Booey.
Baba Booey.
Jerk Boys? Can I be co-host? No Booey. Baba Booey. Jerk Boys?
Can I be co-host?
No, that's a Howard Stern.
You're a Baba Booey.
All right.
I want authority.
So this is bad.
So I'm trying not to actually look at the screen.
I don't want to see my visual, which I think is good.
It'll help me be more natural, but I'm worried I'm going to like... I don't know.
Be something I don't want to be.
Oh shit, what the hell?
Alright, we're getting this hooked up.
So I'm going to try to retweet your post,
animal.
Perfect.
I'm just going to spam the heart
in this one.
All night.
You know, actually, let's just share this in these things, in these places, because...
Can I share it from here?
Is it loud when i'm doing that
i click clacking away no that's okay so you want to share via direct message
i did are you doing it yeah i did it do market litecoin
and i used to have one the weekly uh
no i did that one.
I just changed the name, I think.
I don't know what I did, dude.
Alright, so this was bad.
Because that one got my haircut done.
Nice haircut, bro.
And I rolled right in.
You like it?
Yeah.
Got some pomade in there?
No, it's just...
Buddy Holly?
No, this is all natural, dude.
It's all natural.
Alright. No, this is all natural. All right. See, I can't look. I think that messes the thing up.
All right. So let's do what we would normally used to do. I want to talk about,
I think there's a couple of things I think that are important to talk about.
Obviously there's the whole war in Iran. I don't know.
It sounds like we're going to war but then also remember
Trump had that one general
killed during his
first thing so like
maybe he's just going to do the same
thing like some sort of
massive show of aggression
to just like
shut them down
yeah
so it'll either be over really quickly or it's going to
drag on forever or it's going to explode and like escalate and uh i don't feel for some reason i
don't feel like nuclear weapons are going to get launched i don't feel that the payoff is there for
any country to do that right you know what i mean and i definitely feel that the payoff is there for any country to do that. Right. You know what I mean?
And I definitely feel that, well, look,
maybe it's just through Trump's latest tweet where he said Iran wants to come
to the White House and talk.
Then I'm thinking maybe he'll make a deal.
I don't know.
The art of the deal.
That's the thing.
So they were supposed to have this negotiation, right,
or this meeting a couple of days ago. Trump gave him like a 60-day window to
come to some kind of nuclear deal. I don't know, whatever. And on the 61st day, Israel bombed them and destroyed all their generals and whatnot.
So, yeah, maybe this is all part of the art of the deal, you know?
Like, if you don't want to come to the table, we'll just annihilate you.
And so their predecessors now might be more willing to talk and negotiate.
Maybe that's the thinking behind it.
Rob, never mind. Rob, you're robbing peter to pay paul that's trying to say
yeah they just totally totally fucking they're just gonna rob them uh take all their nukes
no yeah i i don't know the fear the fear mongering around nuclear weapons I'm always like yeah look it's
I think
they should be legalized and everyone should be
able to own one
there's just no
like whoever uses them
except for us
ironically
would face
some serious repercussions
like I don't think there would be any path forward for a country that did that
without, like, literally unseating their entire government, you know,
and putting themselves under the control of the UN or something like that.
And to be honest, I think it's all part of Israel's plan to occupy the Middle East as much as possible.
To get as much land as they can.
I think they want Iran, they want part of Egypt to create, what is this, the cradle of humanity type of nation state.
Whatever it is that they were meant to be given by God.
There's so few
Israelis, though. How would they do that?
I don't know. Inbreeding?
Like, just decide they're in charge?
Well, yeah.
Colonize them, basically?
Yeah, so they're going to have to expand
and destroy everyone who stands in their way
and then populate these areas?
Hmm.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Okay, so that's the one topic.
We can talk about that.
Baba Booey.
Baba Booey.
I do want to talk about...
That was a good one.
I think I've made my mind up on the immigration thing.
Okay?
There was a video today.
Okay?
This guy, the Chinese guy.
And there was a video.
And it was supposed to be this, like...
Whatever this guy's name is.
Was going to turn himself into self-deport
and on the way he got arrested
and put into a detention center or whatever
and he had his girlfriend
was six weeks pregnant right it's supposed to be this
sob story and I get it
but it's like
you know you're breaking the law
like it's not like
these people don't know it.
Some technicality.
They know full well that they're putting themselves at risk.
Like, if you're robbing a grocery store and security comes up and tries to be like,
hey, you're under arrest, you don't go, oh, what?
What?
How?
I mean, normal people would go, all right, you got me.
You caught me.
And they would say, oh, hold on.
This guy was going to self-report himself.
He was on his way to see ice.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I mean, how do they know that?
You know?
I thought they had an app for that.
According to the video.
According to the video.
Right.
There's an app that they have for that, as far as I remember.
The point is, how can you be surprised that you're getting arrested and breaking a law you know you're breaking?
But entering illegally?
Yes.
If you went into a concert that you didn't have a ticket to and you snuck in and they came and got you to leave you wouldn't be like what this is an outrage
you go alright I snuck in
I understand I broke the rules and you leave
right
I don't even get it
yeah I don't know
I guess he's got family there
now where's the empathy from
I don't understand the logic
I get these people are contributing,
but you can't
argue with the fact that they are breaking the
rules, and we all agree to the rules,
so follow the rules.
Yeah, there's a lot
of political hackery going on.
A lot of people just
playing it up because
their party's not in power.
For sure.
But then again, I don't know what is i don't know what the reality is dude uh i live up here in canada we're so sheltered here bro
but anyways it's um it's heartbreaking for sure and he's like cherry-picked stories uh that the
media runs with i mean whatever the guy was I think I heard something about it too.
So he was on his way to self-report.
He doesn't have an iPhone, whatever.
Nonsense.
And these are just meant to pull at your heartstrings, right?
These stories are just meant to make you feel extra empathy.
Whatever.
It's a complex issue.
I think what probably should be done
more than anything else is have
some sort of immigration reform where they
make it so that
legal or at least
visas can be given out to more people
because we do need
a larger workforce.
Apparently we can't we don't have enough people
that are able to work in
America, apparently.
I don't know. Again, I'm not
even there.
We do. We have
60% workforce participation.
Is it because people
aren't getting paid fair wages
in these jobs? I don't know.
Could be. I know my brother
just took a job Monday.
Just started a new job.
They place people in jobs
like temp to work kind of stuff.
They said they've been very busy out in a rural area. They got big in jobs, like temp to work kind of stuff, you know. They said they've been very busy, like out in a rural area.
They got big in a bunch of calls because either people are leaving of their own free will or they're being picked up.
So, yeah, they're going to have to pay regular citizens more money.
Look at this.
This article I just read today.
Let me see if I can share this.
Let me just finish one thing, okay,
before we go into the article,
because when you share it,
we're going to lose the audience.
No, no, no.
We're going to have to change our mics up.
I'll just put it in the comments.
It's okay.
But yeah, dude, if you think about it,
like immigration reform,
having like a larger pool of lottery,
of visas to lottery out,
is also going to increase wages
for everyone working, right?
Because they're not going to be afraid of being kicked out they'll have some kind of they'll have workers rights
right that's what they don't want to give them right so at the same time these it's just like
these fucking partisan hacks man i swear to god i fucking hate them i fuck no instead of coming
down with for like with like a logical solution
they're fighting about these fucking sob stories it's like it's just you'll get your heads out of
your fucking asses do something they don't want to solve it they really don't
like it's just not it's no it's not beneficial to either side it doesn't seem complicated
beneficial to either side.
It doesn't seem complicated.
Like, okay.
It's not beneficial to the
elite class.
Right. Correct.
People fair wages to give them
health care.
How do you think Bezos got rich?
Yeah.
Right. Why Bill Gates
buys all the farmland in the world, you know?
Correct. Yeah.
So, yeah. Does all roads lead back to that.
Well, anyway, this article, I'm just going to tell you what the article says, is that California senators demand Trump immigration officials stop using Medicaid data.
So, like, non-citizens are getting Medicaid in certain states, right?
It's not paid by the federal dollars.
But that's kind of wild.
Like in California, you're paying health care for people.
Again, I don't know how, what's the requirement.
Do they have to just get here?
Is that the rule?
I don't know, Chief.
You're our California Immigration Correspondent.
Unfortunately, I don't have any legals around me, so I can't ask.
Do you have any anecdotes to share with us, Chief?
You can change names if you want.
I don't know.
No, bro.
I don't have any info on that.
I just know that if you're basically dying or something, they'll definitely help you out.
But you just can't go in there and say, hey, you may get Medicare or Medicaid or anything like that.
I mean, I guess if they have kids, you could probably get it for your kid and you somehow get it for yourself because you're the mother.
But I don't know if the father gets it.
All right. As of January 1st, 2024, all income eligible California residents can qualify for full scope Medi-Cal regardless of their immigration status, including those who are undocumented.
There's no longer a waiting period.
You have to show paperwork that you're working?
I'm guessing when they say income eligible, I'm betting that they mean don't make enough money.
I'm guessing when they say income eligible, I'm betting that they mean don't make enough money.
There is no longer a waiting period or a five-year ban for immigrants to get Medi-Cal in California,
even those with a lawful permanent resident status, green card, who have been in the U.S. for less than five years.
You may qualify for it upon meeting all other eligibility requirements, such as income limits.
So you have to be poor.
So you have to show up broke and you get free health care.
Bro, that's so crazy.
Like, how do they not know that
it's designed to be broken?
Can I stop working?
Can I stop working?
As of January 1st, adults in California...
If you're sick, you should stop working.
Ages 26 through 49.
That actually makes sense, though. I think Adam was right.
If you're sick, you should definitely stop working because then you get more help than what you could afford
yeah you're right go bankrupt yeah yeah you buy all your yeah take on your debt buy a bunch of
crypto bury it and just claim and just change your name and say you came here from poland
like what how do they even it's so crazy to me do they have your fingerprints
that's how they know that who you are
because then you'll be on the system
yeah
shave off your fingerprints you know
cut out your eyeball
that's just so it's just i can't believe that the citizens would be okay like i get there's
empathy and you want to help people but to just be like here is free health care
even if you don't even you just show up
yeah they're taking us for a ride man approach is going along for the ride it's really
it just i just don't understand the logic of california i don't see how they don't go
this is just a doomed you're literally just going to continue people will just continue coming in
because they can get free health care without even having to and no one's and they're going
to sit here everybody's going to defend to keep you out
or prevent the police from
kicking out people who shouldn't be here.
So it's going to be like a never-ending
flooding in
of people that
aren't...
Is there data on what
services they're getting by Medicaid?
Are you saying saying, hey, I'm poor.
I have a broken elbow. Come fix it?
Is that what you mean?
Let's see.
We're into the... We are the new healthcare.
This is where we need that...
What's the prompt, boys? What's the prompt?
Free healthcare for illegals. This is where we need that. Wait, what's the prompt, boys? What's the prompt? Hold on.
Free healthcare for illegals.
Is it true that migrants are getting free healthcare?
You're in Canada, though.
No, it doesn't.
Here, it says it covers physician services.
That's true.
Hospital care, maternity and newborn, mental health and substance disorder, prescription drugs, preventative services, immunizations and screenings, additional services, dental care, vision care, long-term care, transportation and medical appointments, home health care, lab tests.
You're making me want to quit my job, bro.
You keep saying good things, bro. I want to quit my job bro you keep saying
good things bro I want to quit my job now
how long can whatever
40% of the people
carry the load
like our only hope is that the dollar
has been strong enough to do this
right
it goes a long way everywhere else
but that's just being
we're just being bled dry.
There's no way this can work.
And then you and I,
we complain, we go,
oh, my medical bill is $50,000.
Well, yeah, because whatever.
Everybody else is getting free healthcare,
so it's coming from somewhere.
God damn.
This whole thing is so messed up.
Yeah.
This is a policy that was implemented, I guess, a while ago,
and now with all the, what is it, 20 million migrants that came in
in the last administration.
Yeah, I don't think of those numbers, but yeah.
Those are the ones that they know about.
20 million in four years or something that sounds like a lot but hey more power to them is it possible
20 minutes sounds like a lot bro i i feel like that number is
been exaggerated but hey i i don't know i mean. That's a nice dent to your population right there.
I mean...
Houses are
expensive, bro. I mean, I
know people that are renting, actually, to tell you the truth,
rooms for like $1,500
in West Hollywood, and it's like
a restroom with a bed
and a shower.
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
So how's this coming across on videos?
Everything working out?
Anybody jumped in there?
No one?
We got 22 views.
Don't worry about it.
Every week.
Every week.
It is weird. It is weird.
It is weird.
I thought we'd have.
You know what, though?
Under my timeline, you have.
There's two.
You know how they have the spaces on top of the timeline?
There's a red one for you guys being live.
For us being live.
Yeah.
And what happened is everybody that we reminded in spaces it got cancelled somehow so
yeah that was Grant's fault
so hold on how many
what was that
yeah right exactly it's underground
animals broken their golden rule twice already
oh fuck no Exactly. It's underground. Animals have broken the golden rule twice already.
Oh, fuck. No!
Don't!
Anyway, Bits.
So, hey,
your first name.
I bought one of those frogs.
I bought the green frog.
I'm in the green.
What up, Bits? He's listening in here right now. That's cool. I know. That's. I'm in the green. What up, bitch?
He's listening in here right now.
That's cool.
I know.
That's why I brought it up.
That's why I brought it up.
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
I don't usually get.
How much was it?
