All right, how's everybody doing?
Wait till we get some people to join up.
Hope everybody's having a good morning, good day.
Good morning or good afternoon, sir.
I'm trying to wake up still, I guess.
I didn't get much sleep last night.
I mean, it's 9 a.m. my time, so it's really already kind of a little bit later in the morning.
But, yeah, no, I'm doing good, doing good.
Man, I was out of town and I visited my family and on my way to back to home, it's supposed to take like six hours of drive, but instead it took like 13 hours.
And because of the traffic and I was about to go nuts, but right now I'm better.
Yeah, that's like double, more than double your drive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's like me, like last Sunday, man, we had really warm, I brought it up last week on the space, we had really warm weather and then we had a snowstorm and I had to drive home in it and they weren't plowing the roads.
And it took like twice as long for me to get home.
It was like a 40 minute drive turned into like almost an hour and a half.
And it was terrible and it was terrifying and I had never, yeah, it was the worst trying to drive home in a snowstorm.
And it just made me really angry because literally two days before it was hot and then two days later I'm driving home in the worst snowstorm that I could drive in.
I'll send the rest of you guys a speaker invites if you can come up.
I'm doing good, just working, just doing some work before heading to bed.
Yeah, you're in Japan right now, right?
Hey, what time is it there right now?
But I got to get this script for a video done, so I'll be just working in the background.
Yeah, I was, you know, I was trying, I was listening to all, you know, minus the first three minutes of Clutchy, which I guess people were saying that's when you spoke.
But I'm like listening to the whole thing, waiting for your voice.
And, and I honestly wasn't paying super close attention to what everybody else was talking about too much, except for the fuddies.
I'm kind of intrigued by them.
I think they seem like they have an okay thing going on.
But, you know, outside of the outside of fuddies, I really don't know what everybody else is doing over there for the most part, other than, you know, other than you guys, because, you know, I, you know, I follow you guys.
And so, you know, that brings me over there, mostly because of that.
But, yeah, I was waiting for you to speak.
And then you finally, finally spoke a little bit at the end.
Yeah, and that's really cool, like, as far as like, which, how Sui is enabling you to be able to do like, what y'all want to do with the dynamic, you know, NFT thing.
So, I'm really looking forward to, to like, once, once everything comes together, you know, like, how, how, how it all plays out.
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think it comes down to like, how committed you are to, like, if you're committed to, because like, if we migrated, or like, if we said that we were going to Sui, and then like, we didn't put in this much work, we wouldn't have gotten here.
So, it's like, we're not just running on the hype, like, we're doing a lot of things in the background, you know, going into all these events, meeting, meeting all these people, like, it's definitely there.
Like, we've put in a lot of work, so it's not just a freebie, you know?
Yeah, you, yeah, you've been all over the place.
And I'm going to be all over my part of Iowa over here, here in a little bit.
I'm going to be meandering around, see if I can get my car fixed.
But other than that, anyway, how's it going, Alex?
Hey, what's up, everyone?
I finally recovered from my illness.
I've been sick for like two weeks.
And then a week of that, I wasn't able to do anything at all.
So I've just been lying down on the couch most of the day.
And then just thinking about when I'll be able to do some work.
But also, good thing, in the last two days of recovery, I was like, I was feeling a little bit better.
And I was like in this limbo between not being, not quite being able to work, but not quite being very sick.
And I started playing that.
And that's actually pretty good, because like, everyone gave it so much shit when it came out in the beginning.
But because of the microtransactions, like everyone, the Fallout community gave it so much shit.
And then I played Fallout for two days.
And it's actually really good.
You don't need to pay for anything.
You just do your quests as normal.
And sometimes you meet a random person that's on the server as well.
And it's like no one is killing you.
Like no, like guys level 500 are like coming and killing you for no reason.
So anyway, so I found Fallout 76.
Yeah, I remember when like the first Fallout came out like 20 years ago.
And I thought it was the coolest thing when it first came out.
I don't really play many like games or anything at all anymore.
I actually haven't really played games for many years now for the most part.
But yeah, like way back in the day, I was big into Halo.
Even really the first one.
We used to, you know, that was before even like Xbox Live with the first one.
And I used to live in Florida.
And we used to drive all over Florida and just play Halo with people that we didn't even know.
Like we would meet people online in chat rooms and stuff that played Halo.
And we would drive all over the state of Florida.
East Coast, West Coast, Central, South, North, wherever.
I think the only place we didn't go was up in Florida.
It's shaped kind of weird.
But it's like got a peninsula.
And then it's got a panhandle.
And so like in the peninsula part, we would literally just meet all kinds of random people and play Halo.
You know, I don't know if it was dangerous or not.
Because like I said, a lot of people didn't really know.
We didn't think about that back when we were 18, 19, 20.
So it's like, I don't know.
But anyway, Norski, how you doing?
How's everyone else going?
Well, Alex says he's doing better.
Actually, we've had strep throat running through our house.
Like I had it a couple weeks ago.
My wife had it last week.
My three-year-old had it just a few days ago.
It seems like somebody gets it like after five or six days.
And so hopefully my daughter doesn't get it because she's six.
And she's been like they've been like sleeping in the same bed and stuff like together.
So I'm thinking she still could come down with it maybe even today or tomorrow.
I mean, it's been about five days, though, now.
It's just all kinds of people up here in and around where I'm at have been sick.
But yeah, we're all mostly doing better.
Let's hope everyone gets well very soon.
If anybody else is listening, if you guys want to come on and speak, you can just let
Like send me a send me a request or whatever.
Meanwhile, I might as well use this space.
So for those who have who are holding Rage Pops, you will see some new art at some point
I'm not going to say when.
So I just have to say this year.
It could be December 31st.
So you said some new art.
Because since Rage Pops are joining the Zenfrog multiverse, they have to go.
The two collections have to have a similar art style.
So we're getting the same artist.
Well, Alexei to do Rage Pops as well.
So you're going to have the Pixel Pops and you're going to have the Zenfrog style Rage
So yeah, that's happening at some point.
I'm not going to say when.
One more thing that happened with Zenfrogs.
We helped Prototron Fund.
Maybe I've mentioned this before.
No, I couldn't have because it must have been too early.
We helped Prototron Fund.
Prototron Fund is an early stage startup fund here in Estonia.
It's an international fund.
So any startup from around the world can join this program.
Basically, they give startups something between like 10,000 to 20,000 euros just for an idea.
But your idea has to be really good.
The competition there is super like tough.
And some people, you know, by the like they start with an idea and by the end of the program, they already have like a product.
So obviously, usually those guys win.
But anyway, we've helped with Zenfrogs.
We've helped them start their NFT collection, which is not nothing.
It's not like a public sale or anything.
It's for the participants of the program and for sponsors that they have that's going to have some utility attached to it.
I'm happy to know that I have one NFT from this collection, which is pretty cool.
They haven't publicized what utility you will have with this collection yet.
I mean, they didn't make it public, but it should be pretty cool.
So if you see a Prototron, it's actually, it's not, it's not called a Prototron NFT.
It's called Proteus by Prototron.
If you see that on Solana Marketplace on sale for some reason, I'd say you buy it because, yeah.
Well, I was going to ask, is this all on Solana then?
Yeah, this one is on Solana because they went with the fees, the cheap fees.
First of all, they wanted to make the mint free.
But then I said, like, just keep it simple.
Don't need to create a mint.
Just pre-mint all the NFTs and just send them out to all the participants.
It's not like you're going to have thousands of participants every year.
They only have, like, they have a lot of teams participating, but only, like, a few graduate.
So just use Solana with its low fees and just send the NFTs manually.
So that's what they're going to do.
Yeah, I wish, I wish Sugar was here.
He could talk about some Solana stuff.
He's always flipping NFTs over there on Solana because I follow him, and I'll join some of the, like, Solana groups and stuff,
and they'll be talking about some of the collections and stuff over there.
And, I don't know, it's just kind of fun.
Like, I don't follow it, you know, real hardcore or close, but it's still, it's anything that Sugar is in is interesting to me.
And he reminds me a lot of me the way I used to be.
I'm not necessarily like that so much now as far as the language and stuff goes.
I don't usually, you know, I don't really talk like that anymore.
I'm still my own G, I'm still my own degenerate, just more PG, if that makes any sense.
And so, no, I try to, I try to, I try to keep it, I try to be clean.
Um, and, uh, so anyway, uh, hey, Penguin, um, so I know you're dropping your, uh, alpha or, you know, tomorrow.
I think, I guess tomorrow's the National Penguin Day.
I was, I was so excited to talk about whatever it was that you're going to drop tomorrow today.
But you said you might, um, you might talk about some of it today, as, as you told me earlier in Discord.
Uh, you know, we shared our initial business economy like two weeks ago.
And there were our token implemented into the structure.
And basically, 50% of the revenue was going to the token.
And it's a huge amount, to be honest.
And then we decided to, decided to eliminate token for the first edition of Penguin Waddle NFT collection.
And then you deserve a new to create a healthier structure, let's say.
And basically, Penguin token was going to be mined by the NFT owners of Penguin Bank.
Um, of course, the OG collection is a part of this.
So basically, we have a share structure.
We announced, like, months ago.
And then, depending on that chart, we will use these funds to, directly, for the NFT owners.
Basically, NFT owners will be earning through our business economy, depending on their share.
So that is the main news.
And tomorrow, we will announce how we are going to do it.
So, yeah, so, yeah, because you were doing, yes, yeah, you were doing a token or you were going to launch a token.
I think, I think maybe it was going to be in June.
Is that, was that correct?
And then, and so now you're going to put that on hold for a little bit?
In June, we will begin our mint.
And so, after that, so basically, there will be economy in the business.
And then, all NFT owners of Penguin Bank will be earning through this income pool, let's say.
What we generate, we share with the community.
So, you're probably, so, so, you're probably going to wait then until after the mint, like after the bank mints out the zombie collection on Icon before you do anything?
Are you talking about the token?
That, that will come later, like, most probably with the second collection.
But the token will be on Icon.
Have you, are you still looking for your chains?
Or do you have any other chains that, that are set in stone that you definitely want to launch on?
Are you still, are you still looking for, for all those?
Of course, we are looking, you know, Sui is the most possible option for the second one.
But, you know, we are a cross-chain company.
And, basically, what we need is Sui ecosystem to be connected to Icon.
So, we, so we are still navigating through all the possible options.
But, yeah, Sui is the most possible option for now.
And, of course, Cosmos with Craft's integration with them.
But, you know, we have four collections to be out of on four, four blockchains.
And, we have, we have options.
Yeah, I think, yeah, with what Craft is doing, yeah, I think, and just Cosmos in general, like, they're, you know, they're, they're doing a lot over there in a lot of building.
I think it, I don't know what, I think what they're doing is bigger and better than what Polkadot is doing.
That's just kind of my opinion.
I think Polkadot was more really hyped.
And so, like, like, they're, you know, their token price accelerated really high during, during the last bull market, while Cosmos was more organic growth and didn't necessarily pump as hard.
But now it's like Cosmos is, you know, their token is worth more than Polkadot.
And I think it's just because, you know, once, once you have things, like, being built out, and it works, and it works good, and it's better, because I do think Cosmos is a lot better than Polkadot, then in the long run, you know, whatever, whatever works the best, I think, should win out.
And I just, I really, you know, I was, I used to follow Cosmos.
I brought that up with Lucas last week, when he came on to talk about, you know, their partnership with Neutron.
And I really appreciated him finding the time to do that, and to talk, and it meant the world to me.
And, yeah, just, it really makes me want to get back into Cosmos, and, you know, and follow what they're doing over there.
And so I know, yeah, with Neutron, and then, you know, Balance has really been working with Archway, another layer, one that's about to launch.
And then I also saw, I think on GitHub, like, they're also, it looks like they're working with Injective, too.
And Injective was one, like, six months ago, I was thinking about maybe getting into, but I never did.
And now it's like, well, man, maybe I need to start looking into Injective more as well.
So, but, yeah, that's, yeah, I'm looking forward to your news tomorrow.
And, you know, I love my penguins and, you know, the zombie, the zombie collection, you know, those.
Hopefully you release another image tomorrow as well.
I think, you know, I, even Kotaro said, he's like, man, I need to get some of those.
And I just think it looks like a fun thing, and I'm looking, you know, I'm looking forward to see more what, you know, what you guys are going to be releasing.
Ben, you still hyped on the zombie collection? Are you there?
I'm just hyped on Penguin.
I think they're the only Icon project that I'm still sort of keeping up with.
Yeah, they're definitely up there as one of my top projects.
Like, I like a lot of projects in Icon.
I like pretty much most all of them.
And so, like, it's hard for me to try to rank because I really do like most all of them.
But Penguin Project is definitely, like, near the very top.
So, very, very close if it's, if it's, if they're not at the top.
Penguin, I'm not trying to show you, like, super hardcore.
But, anyway, I almost bought another Penguin last night.
But I'm just saying, there's a Penguin.
Hey, Alex, you don't have a Penguin yet, right?
There's one for, like, 700 Icon in the craft store.
You should get at least one.
I remember we talked about this in the last space.
I may or may not buy an Icon.
I'll tell you what, though.
So, hey, so the Tamashis, hey, Ben, you know, and we, and this, this came up, I think, in, in your Discord, in the Studio Mario Discord, I think, yesterday.
Let me cut you off for a second.
I might just hop off the space because of that.
No, hey, hey, before you.
Then he's in the Shadow Realm.
I'm already in the Shadow Realm.
Is there, is there, like, is there, like, a double Shadow Realm?
I was literally just going to tell him, I was just going to say, hey, you know, for, you know, how they're, you know, you know, the floor price.
I'm looking at the floor price right now.
It's 12, it's 12K Icon, which is like, yeah, it's like $4,000.
And, and it's like, that's what you want to be, though, is a collection.
You want to be able to grow your numbers like that and, and, and for your holders.
And, and, and, and like, like, that's how you know you're doing it right.
Like, because, like, that's, they're the only collection that's, that's like that in, in, in, in Icon, on craft.
Yeah, I think this is a, it's a really good point to make that, like, most holders of Tamashi are, like, really in the Tamashi community.
They're not, like, just people who came to Flip, you know, they're really, like, invested in the project to some degree.
I know maybe not all of them are super active, but let's say Min, maybe he's not very active in the Tamashi community, in the Studio Mira community.
But, uh, this is a really good thing.
So, like, the holders are the community and they believe in the projects so much that they're just refusing to sell for anything that's, like, cheap.
And cheap is, like, less than whatever.
What is it, 10,000 ICX right now?
And, and, and, and, and that's why it's, like, yeah, and, um, uh, what's it, Funky, Fonacky, uh, man, he's, Fonacky, bro, he's just calling him Fonacky.
Oh, my God, I was gonna leave, I was, I was, like, he's not gonna do anything, leave me leave again.
And then you, Fonacky, my God, who's.
Fonacky, Kurato, and Toko.
Yo, yo, real, real honest, you're.
Hey, hey, I'm, hey, I'm from, hey, I'm from the, I'm from the South, man.
I don't know how to talk.
My education is from Florida.
Like, look up, look up my Florida man.
Everybody look up their Florida man, their, their birthday.
Hey, you know, this would be a real honest space if I didn't go off the rails in some,
you know, degenerate way or, or, or with a rant, so.
Hey, speaking of, uh, Icon TV, uh, do you think they're gonna launch their video today?
They were supposed to launch it last Monday and they didn't.
And so I, I said, I said something three days later on Twitter.
I'm like, um, where's your video?
Like, it's kind of not that professional to say you got a video and then you don't drop
Like, I'm like, who does that?
And then so somebody, somebody on Icon, you know, that runs the Twitter, um, I'm thinking
that, oh, he, he might, well, there's one particular person that I think helps run the
They were in my spaces, but they're not here now.
Um, but I was like, I think somebody may or may not have, uh, you know, put that out
there to hopefully get them to, uh, launch their video, um, that they supposedly have.
I mean, if they have it, they need to launch it, but I'm just like, where's it at?
I'm wondering if, um, if he may be delayed it because of the announcement from Icon about
the delegation program, maybe wanted to put something about that into it.
That's actually, um, that's very interesting now that you bring that up.
Um, yeah, I don't, I don't know, but I'm just like, they said they got it ready to drop
and then it's like, where's it at?
And, and I've been waiting so long for like a code metal update.
I just, it makes me like, not know like what to think anymore.
And it kind of has me frustrated and there's still no update.
There's supposed to be an update by end of Q4.
And then they say, Oh, well no Q1.
And then Q1 comes and goes and there's no update.
And now the first month of Q2 is almost over and there's still no update.
And so I just, I don't know, kind of frustrated, but hopefully they got something.
I was going to ask, uh, Icon TV, that's YouTube.
Um, yeah, yeah, but hopefully, hopefully they got some cool stuff that they're, they're about
to drop and I don't know, maybe they needed to change something, but hopefully it's coming
I hope it blows our minds.
Um, so anyway, I'll just, I don't know.
I'll just move on from there.
Um, Alter launched, uh, the Icon and the framed caps today.
Um, I really want both of them, but I'm kind of short on money right now.
So I don't, I don't know.
I, I, I, I told Alter the other day, I messaged him.
I was like, yeah, I really want those, but right now I'm kind of tight on money.
So, um, we'll, we'll, we'll see if, uh, if they don't sell out, then I might try to get
But what do you guys think of the, those, uh, those caps that released today?
I didn't see the caps, but what I know is I have a box of Alter caps at my home, my apartment,
uh, that came after the web when event.
So, um, he sent the, he sent the, the, the caps before the event, but they arrived super
And then like the last box I got like a month ago, because they got lost in the post office
And I have this sitting, so I might as well start selling them, but no, no, um, I will
probably give them away at some point.
I think that was something we talked about that, um, give them away at an event or something,
but I haven't seen these, but I would be interested in seeing what these new caps look like.
Just go to, uh, Alter, Alter's Twitter and then they, they got them, they got them on there.
Um, I re I really liked the framed one the most, um, the icon one.
Um, but I just, I kind of wish that the logo in the front was teal and not black.
Um, cause the black, I think blends in with the like gray jean colored, uh, look of the
I know they got like the logo onto the, like the, the back corner side, a smaller, you know,
So, but I kind of wish that the front was, was, you know, the bright, you know, green
I understand they designed this, the, the, um, artistic decision there cause teal that
teal looks really medical and kind of cheapens the, it would cheapen the cap really, uh, if
you have it like as a big thing in, in the front.
So, I mean, I like, I do like the black on gray.
I mean, it's almost not visible.
I see what you're saying.
Oh, but also, you know, something like light gray would have, would have, uh, done well,
but yeah, this teal man, I don't know why, why such a medical teal is, what was used for,
Like in terms of, for icon, they say, I'm having a go at icon now.
Well, I'm, I'm, I'm kind of, um, like green or teal or blue, like, or any mixture blue
and green or like actually my favorite colors.
Um, so I, I've always kind of liked the color of the logo.
Um, just, just because like those, any combination of green and blue and a mixture of them is
just, those are like my favorite colors.
Um, but you know, if, if, but if icon does something to where like, say they, say they
do like rebrand and like change their logo and maybe change their name.
Um, because I think it's very possible that they should, uh, because you know, it's, it's
You know, you just type in icon and it's like, what do you find?
Like let's, let's, let's, I'm going to type in icon and just like, what, what pops up
Like I type in icon and it like, it pops up Iowa because I live in the state of Iowa
in the United States and it's like icon and it says, Iowa courses online, the course management
system at the university of Iowa is, and it says icon is supported within information technology
So, because I live in the state of Iowa, when I type in the word icon, the first thing that
it tries to direct me to is something to do with the university of Iowa.
It's a very generic word, but also, you know, apple is a generic word.
And then you type in apple, you get maybe pictures of some apples as well, but.
It will be apple, macintosh, you know, uh, the problem with icon is that there's no brand
strength, uh, anywhere that no one is talking about it.
There's no like, uh, cross community collaboration, no big organizations outside of Korea, like
utilizing icon technology at all.
So that, that is the issue we are facing.
Uh, so it's not the word itself that is the problem, but the strength of the brand.
Um, but also, yeah, I would agree.
Just change the name because I, you know, you hear icon and you're like, uh, oh, that
Korean thing that was big in 2017 and never went anywhere.
Yeah, I think you're right about use cases and, uh, activity speaking for itself, eh?
Like, uh, you can change the name to sort of create a bit of short-term hype, but, uh, people
want to see some product and something going on.
Like, even like, um, if the MyID Alliance had, or does something, you know, with another
country or sort of get something going with more of the decentralized ID outside of Korea,
that could do something to boost it as well.
Because people like, it's like when, you know, when icons, you know, had this recent pump
and stuff and then it, you know, kind of dumped back down and it pumped up again and
Um, you know, like I saw a lot more icon activity in my Twitter feed from all kinds of people
that I didn't even know cared about icon.
So, yeah, it's like if, if icon, you know, they, they get all this stuff, you know, like
what you said, Norski, you know, and they, they get this X call going and the BTP goes
live that like, like it's going to get traction.
Um, Hey, Kotaro, go ahead.
Oh, I just wanted to, I just wanted to say that we're actually thinking about rebranding
because you were talking about names.
Like you're going to, uh, rebrand, uh, Studio Mirai?
I gave you some really good ideas in the general chat on my crazy street, like Studio Marouche.
I think we're going to name it to, um, Studio Toilet or something to do with flushing.
That's been really, yeah.
I think, I think it's really innovative because like, cause I, I brought this up, you know,
instead of minting Mashin, I think we're going to mint like golden toilets and basically it's
going to track how many flushes and the weight of those flushes that you do.
And like, depending on like how healthy your flushes are, that's how much token allocation
It's actually like pretty genius because we're like, you know, promoting health, you know?
I thought, I thought maybe it'd be like rug.
Nah, rug's, rug's still 2022.
Dude, we're in the, we're in the age of golden toilets.
Dude, I've just been super inspired from like Japanese culture, dude.
Like there's this giant dung or it's supposed to be a, um, Asahi museum, but it looks, it's
like, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's deemed by locals as a giant dung.
And I don't know, that's just like super inspiring to me, you know?
Like the entire building is just a giant black box that people call like the toilet.
It's like a giant toilet with a giant golden dung on top of it.
There's an enforcer trait where the headgear is a giant dung.
So like, like whoever gets that trait, I'm going to buy it from you.
So I'm just letting you guys know.
But like jokes aside, like a hundred percent studio, studio flushing round the way I'm
saying it's like midnight.
I feel like clutching my days.
I was like ready to pass.
I was, I was waiting on you to speak and I'm like, bro, when are you going to like, I
haven't even heard you speak.
And you're like, man, I'm about to sleep.
I spoke mad alpha at the end.
What are you talking about?
I, I, I heard, I heard the mad alpha at the end.
I just like, I don't know what's the point of sharing alpha.
I'm like, we got people like OG people from the community still pronouncing it as Tamashis,
I will probably screw up and call it with, with an S at the end again, because I don't,
I don't, you know, I don't understand that the, the, the, the eye at the end, uh, makes
it, you know, to where there's no S needed, but you know, because I'm a Southern D gen, uh,
for Florida, uh, where, uh, where, where people, where people, where people do holdups with
alligators, um, it doesn't have anything to do with it.
Hey, I can't, Hey, I can't help that I'm surrounded by a lot of white trash and some of that might,
you know, go over on me a little bit.
I try to, to stay away as much as I can, but even up here in Iowa, there's a lot of white
trash here, believe it or not.
And, uh, it's just, there's no trailers up here.
Hardly there, all the trailer parks and stuff are down South up here.
Everybody, there's not too many trailer parks.
Everybody mostly lives in a house, but these houses, a lot of them just don't look very
And so you can tell based on the outside of the house, the type of people that live in
for the most part, dude, are we trying to, uh, are we trying to meet up in Iowa or what?
Like, when am I going to meet this, uh, this, this through on this radio guy?
Hey, I'm a, Hey, I'm here.
Um, you can come stay at my house if you want.
We can, I can, I can, that's a little weird, but Hey, I, I got to pull out couch downstairs.
You can sleep on, I can just be telling Baylor alpha all night.
I was talking so loud that he closed his door to his bedroom, I guess.
Cause he didn't want to hear me talk.
I walked, I walked in and he's watching some YouTube and I'm like, what are you doing?
And he's like, Oh, I'm just watching this guy.
He, he like sold his YouTube channel to somebody else.
And I'm like, well, why are you watching that?
I'm like, what's the purpose of that?
He's like, I don't know something to do.
I'm, I'm curious to see actually.
Cause like, I, I just, I actually haven't been able to keep tabs on like any other projects.
I've been like listening into your, like my, my news source of icon projects is your space.
It's just run is I'd like, I just let you know.
So like I, I do, I do listen to them.
I do listen to them afterwards, but I can't make it.
But, um, Oh, Oh, this is alpha.
This is alpha for next week.
So next week's space is I'm going to start at noon.
UTC and Fez is going to come on.
Um, so that's going to be great.
So make sure everybody listening next week at noon UTC, which is 7am my time, which is crackhead hours for me.
Um, Fez is definitely supposed to join.
Um, and then I'm trying, I'm still trying to get 16 bit fight club.
So I'm hoping because his, his time over there in Australia too.
So I'm hoping he can, he can, he'll be able to show up.
Um, yeah, he had his, he had his cool little tournament yesterday.
And I guess, uh, I was looking at it earlier and, uh, I guess hedgehog.
I don't, I'm not sure who hedgehog is, uh, but he supposedly won.
So he won, he won the OG minting rights, uh, uh, for the, um, 16 bit fighter.
Uh, I don't know if I'm saying that correctly or if that's, if that's how they say it, but, but, uh, I try to follow them a little bit.
It's, it's, it's so hard trying to keep up with everybody in disc and all the different discords though.
At least you're in the discords.
I'm not even in the discords.
The only discord I'm in is a penguin shot to the G I should, I take it back penguin and wonder game.
I'm in that's the only discord I'm in, but, um, yeah.
Cause like, I'm actually very grateful that you got, that you started doing Twitter businesses cause bro, I like for, I, I think like for me, like it's better for me to go on Twitter spaces rather than host them.
Cause hosting them is just a little too much work, but we're sort of like, when we come back, when I come back to Boston, we're kind of taking a spin on Twitter spaces.
We're actually doing like podcasts.
Uh, so we'll be doing it with a lot of founders from different, different ecosystems, uh, sort of like releasing those via Apple music or Spotify or, or Twitter or whatever.
Uh, but those more curated conversations, hopefully people enjoy those types of stuff, but I'll, I'll probably still be on like Twitter spaces every week.
Um, like even this week when I'm traveling, I'm, I'm still on like Clutchy Mondays, Cosmo, Katie, a coffee hour, the sweet ecosystem ones on Wednesday.
Um, there's usually one on like Fridays I usually join, but yeah, I think Twitter, I think more projects cause like, you know, like every week we see the same projects, right?
Like I, I, I do hope to see more of the different projects in our ecosystems, like participate in these.
Cause like, I think like 2023 moving in like Twitter spaces is next to going to real life events and stuff.
Um, like man, real life events are so bullish.
Did you know your situation story yet?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We will apply to the visa next week and then, yeah, we want to come.
I'm pretty much like fully booked in.
Um, I, I haven't booked the flights, but I'm, I'm pretty much like fully attentive for, even
if like a lot of people don't show up, that's fine.
I think we're just going to have like vibed, you know, like our itinerary is like kind of,
kind of like a bunch of friends hanging out, like karaoke dinner, maybe some bowling, maybe
some other activities and then content creation shooting.
And then, and then maybe we'll hit the bars with the boys and then make one of those videos
that like life is like a movie.
Ben, can you remind me what dates, uh, is it happening?
I think I'll, I'll, I'll try to make it as well.
I'm, I'm literally flying out just, just to hang out with you guys.
So it's hopefully it will make the best out of my time.
I need a, I need icon and craft to moon.
So maybe I can attend to, and I could afford it.
Guys, I haven't been thinking, but I'll, I'll be back in 30 minutes.
I don't know if I, I don't know.
I don't, I don't know if I'll still be here in 30 minutes or not.
I was like, I don't know.
I might be, um, I mean, if you, if you unrecord the space,
if I, if I, if I, if I unrecord it, you'll, you'll, uh,
I'll drop some alpha, but like, you know, I can't drop alpha, bro.
Is there, is, is there a way to unrecord it?
You guys are going to say, well, I guess, well, I don't know.
I'd have to like scrub it.
Like, I delete all the, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool.
They're, they're hurting their mouthful with the former flesh rebranding, honestly.
Like, it's actually so big brain.
Like, if you think about it, that's crazy, right?
Like, we, we're promoting a healthy dieting.
Like, the healthier you eat, obviously, the better poos you're going to have.
And that just translates to how much kodo you can get.
And then kodo is like, a dollar.
We got 10 million in liquidity.
It's passive, it's literally passive income.
Like, you go, do your day, do your nine-of-fives, eat a healthy meal, go home, do the poos, earn some money, boom.
Yeah, so instead, instead of, like, stepping and walking around and earning the stepping token, you just, you poo and you earn kodo.
Instead of getting rugged and a tee, you just live a healthy lifestyle and earn as you go.
It's the next big thing, my guy.
Hey, I like how, I like how when me and you, when me and you talk, like, we, we go off the rails, like, hardcore.
What do you mean, off the rails, bro?
That's, that's, that's the, that's the catch.
Oh, that's the collection name.
Man, I'm already, I'm, man, my viewers are dropping, or my listeners are dropping off a cliff now.
They don't like this talk.
Hold on, let me, let me, let me, let me share this into my chat, and I'll say it's a daily.
Yeah, tell, yeah, tell, yeah, tell them, yeah, they can, and yeah, and then, and then, and then, yeah, like, 60 people will join.
Actually, that'd be funny if, man, there's so many, like, new people in the Discord.
Like, I, I can't figure out if they're bots or if they're real.
Well, we, we recently opened whitelist clubs, so I think over the past, over the past, like, four days.
Like, I mean, Eric's been leading them.
I think we have, we've had, like, 250, like, 200 tickets open, probably within the past couple days.
So, from that, we've gotten about 700 new people, I think, and a new resident.
So, we just passed 2,000 residents.
Did you, did you already share it in the Discord?
Because I know Carnifis, or Carnifixis.
Look at all the people that joined.
Bro, I told you, I sent out one thing, the cult comps.
Yeah, guys, we're talking about a new utility for your, for the entities that we're dropping.
We're calling it, um, Shipcoin, literally.
Wait, this is so good, we're on.
Um, so basically, you mince these golden toilets, right, and it tracks how healthy you're, you're eating, right?
Because, obviously, the healthier you're eating, the more bullish your exits are going to be.
So, the better, the better, like, the toilet would track, you know, like, how healthy your exits are going to be.
And it would generate kodo for your exits.
You know, so, like, it's actually, like, super genius, because, like, it promotes a healthier lifestyle, and it rewards you.
Like, passive income is overrated.
Like, passive income, you're just getting some random token that probably has no value.
But, like, in this case, you're actually getting a value.
Like, one kodo is $1, but you've got, like, $10 million in liquidity there.
Like, we're getting, we're getting sponsored by some, like, toilet company.
It's actually, like, I'm actually super bullish.
We're using dynamic NMTs by creating unique toilet experiences.
Like, build your own toilet.
Fuck, I can't keep this, I can't keep going.
Valor just came out of his room.
Hey, Valor, say, say what's up to Kotaro.
That's not what's up, Kotaro.
I'm harassing your father.
Oh, I'm in here listening to everything.
What's our, what's our new utility?
If you get it wrong, you lose all your kodo.
All right, he loses all his kodo.
I'll just take your dad's kodo.
Are you, are you on the list?
Are you on the list in the Discord?
Have you been in there or what?
I pushed him because he wasn't active.
What have you been doing?
Watching YouTube videos of, uh, of somebody selling their YouTube channel to somebody else?
That's what you were doing earlier.
Didn't you ground Valor from using Discord?
Like, he can't even be active if he wants to, right?
No, that was, man, that was like, that was like four months ago.
He was, he was grounded to like, like three days or something.
So he, no, he's, he's, he's, he's good now.
He wants me to, uh, he wants me probably, he's gonna, he was harassing me yesterday.
Uh, he wants me to take him up on top of the bluff to go, to go hook up this, uh, to go hook up this, uh, this antenna back up to the, uh, whatever for the, his ham radio, his amateur radio, uh, thing or whatever.
So he can broadcast or in and around, uh, our town here.
Yo, Christian, come up here real quick.
Or in cryptos, come up, get, get up here.
I'm trying to, um, get some, uh, I'm trying to finesse some white lists for, for my community.
I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm in all these genres DMs, man.
Yeah, I just, uh, I just sent them listener speaker request.
All right, there they are.
Jesus, what's that background noise?
But, uh, I don't know what guitar wants, but yeah, sure.
That's dedication, right?
No, I, I was just, I was just making sure, making sure, uh, I shipped the toilet to the
Did I just, I just realized this feels like one of my, my late night, 11 PM midnight spaces
that I've done with you, uh, because it is that, it is that time for, yeah, that's what
Like, it's like midnight for you right now.
So this feels like a, a, a late night space, except it's morning for me.
Buzz Wallet just changed their PFT to our motion.
And the fact that it's fucking yellow.
Dude, Buzz, Buzz Wallet needs to send me a thing so I can test out their wallet.
Like, I got an Android phone, though.
So, like, they said they were going to do the Android stuff this week, but.
Actually, I'm going to, I'm going to harass them.
I'm going to, like, Buzz, I, y'all don't, you don't know who I am, but I know who you
I was like, I need, I need to test out that Android wallet.
They just said that they're, they released their Android wallet.
Like, they're doing it this week.
Like, they, they, they said that they, they literally, I think they respond to your DM
You're actually just trolling.
You're actually just tripping out here.
I'm not, I'm not going to lie.
I'll check, I'll check it here.
I'll check it here as soon as I get off here, then.
You got that real honest.
I'm checking my man around.
You got that real honest euphoria floating around you, man.
Let me break, let me break down the choice for you guys.
So, this one is a unique armor set.
So, there's, like, a few unique armor sets.
Ah, shit, I just dropped my phone off this.
I've been doing all my meetings.
I literally just been in meetings for, like, three hours, four hours.
But, if you, if you guys are, whoever's on Buzz, my PFP on Buzz is actually a unique armor set FM release.
So, I guess, if people that are on Buzz right now, that can see it.
So, you can, for these, you can only change the headgear and the eyes.
Everything else is, like, unique.
So, for this case, it's inspired by the Akira motorcycle.
So, it's, like, tatted with the stickers from the Prime machine.
And then, it's, like, a unique lightning bulb.
So, I think the, it comes in red, green, blue, and yellow.
So, the red one has, like, a white lightning, I think.
The green one has, like, a yellow lightning.
The blue one has a yellow lightning as well.
And then, it's the yellow one with the pink lightning.
So, these are going to be harder to get, of course, because they're unique armor sets.
So, but, like, it came out so good.
Like, this one is one of those ones that, like, I instructed Jay to create these three unique armor sets.
Like, I can't, like, I don't want to tell you guys yet.
And he was just looking at them.
And he's, like, all right, I want to take a break.
And he ended up pumping out, like, seven other unique armor sets that all look, like, cracked.
And I'm just, like, bruh.
So, like, for this one, actually, we may do something where we play into the gamification for owning certain prime traits may give you certain enforcer traits.
So, depending on how we do that yet.
Like, for example, if you own, like, a red Martian with a, like, with the Blue Cows, you may be airdrop the red Akira.
Like, the red, like, unique armor set.
Something like that, maybe.
I have to, like, count the numbers, make sure they make sense.
But we're probably going to start doing those after the prime migration.
Like, if you own, for example, like, the UFO trait on prime, you'll be airdropped the UFO trait in the enforcer.
And those are the only ways that you can get it is through that airdrop.
Like, some of the trait drops will be purchasable.
But a lot of them will be airdropped by owning existing assets.
So, we're really excited to start getting those out.
But, holy crap, it looks so good.
I can't stop looking at it.
Hey, is this something that you're just looking at?
Or is this something, like, that I can also see?
Like, is this something you have in the Discord right now?
Or is this just what you're telling us?
Because I tagged it in our Twitter space.
Like I said, I'm a little slow.
But, no, that looks, man, that looks amazing.
But, you know, the first thing that came to mind was Pennzoil and Penske.
Because they're, like, Penske trucks are yellow and, like, a little bit of black.
And so, it made me think of a Penske truck.
And then, like, Pennzoil as well.
Like, their colors are yellow and black.
And it was just the first thing that popped in my mind when I saw it.
But, no, that looks amazing.
Every time I see a new one, I get more and more blown away.
I've been in Japan for a bit now.
It looks like those, like, old 90s, like, Japanese toys.
But I think we have one of the best arts on Sui.
Because, like, there's no other 3D collections.
And what you can do with it.
I haven't seen anyone else doing this.
I think we're kind of, like, taking it to another level.
Like, there's not really anyone that's been doing it like this.
Because we're prioritizing, like, high-level users.
Not as much, like, a flipping culture.
Like, there's still, like, the collective culture within the traits.
But we're actually, we're trying to create, like, the, like, expanding the community properly.
By, you know, ensuring high-level user and interesting communication and, you know, like, affordable access points.
Because we really just want to test, like, what the technology can do.
Like, how far can we really build the, like, custom building experience?
Because, like, the Enforcer isn't a traditional, you know, PFP collection, right?
But this one looks so good as a PFP.
I might actually have to change my PFP after Buzz uses this one.
Like, I don't, like, this is, I don't know.
You know, I see a lot of different images, you know, NFT collections or whatever, right?
But, like, these Enforcers that I'm seeing, like, every single one of them, like, I'm literally blown away.
Like, I don't know if I've seen any better artwork than these Enforcers that I'm seeing.
And I'm not just trying to say that to say that.
Because I will tell you if I think your stuff sucks or if I think your artwork is not that great.
But these things are literally, like, the best things I've ever seen.
Jay really went above me.
Like, the Prime was already super good.
So, like, Enforcer, for example, we have, like, I think we have, like, well, with the Unique Armorsets, we have, like, nearing 400 traits.
So, you've only seen, like, you've probably only seen, like, 20 of them.
You know what, though, Katara?
You've got a lot on your hands to make Android be better than Enforcer now.
Because this is setting a standard.
I already have the whole narrative, dude.
You're going to be blown away by X.
Dude, I'm making shit happen in the background.
Trust in the process, man.
This is how Founders should be, you know?
Create the business opportunities, man.
Dude, ever since I met Brando, dude, I've been acting.
I've been kind of better mentality.
That's the Brando effect.
I think you're, yeah, I think you're getting more comfortable, like, speaking, too.
Like, I'm still very uncomfortable when I speak.
Like, I'm nervous a lot of the times.
You just got to know when to insult them, you know?
But, like, not like that.
Like, you got to be, like, just, you know.
I got to teach you some slang.
Some, like, you got to be using deadass more.
Do you, hey, when are your, when is the merch coming out?
I actually got, like, so many new ideas from Japan, I kind of want to just scrap the whole
thing and rebuild it, but I can't.
Then you don't have to scrap it.
I mean, it's all for the lounge.
Because, like, I was talking to some projects.
You see, they want to do, we want to do, like, maybe, like, pop-up stores in the future
where, uh, it's, like, an event, like, a, like, a side event from an existing blockchain
Um, and we sort of, like, host, like, a pop-up store where we have, like, all the merch,
uh, like, for free for holders, probably.
Um, and, uh, they can, like, grab these, like, mystery boxes and, like, the mystery box
may contain our merch, may contain their merch, may contain the, like, combined, uh,
Uh, but, like, I think as we start, you know, like, expanding our community, expanding our,
like, our reach, like, we can really push for these, like, bigger, bigger events and,
and, like, stuff like that.
Especially, like, as we start getting connections into, like, other blockchains, like, the grants,
we can get bigger grants and really push for more exciting events and stuff like that.
So, um, I'm actually looking forward to those more than anything.
Like, the, the big, like, IRL events where, like, we can properly host you guys and, like,
have a good time and, like, it feels like a holders event, you know?
Because, like, I mean, right now, even for Paris, it's, like, the ultimate holders event, guys.
We're going to hang out, like, a group, like, uh, we're going to hang out like the boys.
Uh, but, like, you know, like, for these other, like, more entity-style blockchain events,
like, I do want to host some type of bees.
Like, I really liked how Clay, like, like, Claydosaurs, Claydosaurs did the, um, booster packs.
Like, that was, like, super cool.
Um, and, like, how D-God did, like, the pizza party.
I think that was really cool as well.
Um, like, I have a lot of ideas for, like, event merch and, like, event experiences that
I want to, I want to do eventually.
So, uh, these are, like, things that we'll be looking forward to do after Enforcer, after Prime.
Um, maybe to, like, celebrate the release of the game or, uh, you know, like, because,
like, it'll be really cool.
Like, imagine, like, celebrating the release of the game and we do an, like, RL event for
And at this RL event, you get, like, booster packs that give you the cards from the game
that you can actually redeem for the cards in the game.
Uh, and, like, some of the cards will, like, some of the packs will have, like, the ultra
rares and, like, the, like, the higher ones.
And then, like, some of them, like, each pack will also contain, like, a mystery trait
that you can redeem for the Enforcer.
Um, maybe it also contains, like, a coupon, uh, to color in for the Prime.
Uh, and the special thing for Android, which I can't really talk about because once I start
talking about it, I'm just going to start talking about it.
So, um, that's stuff I actually can't talk about yet.
Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian, going to bust out the Switch.
He's going to turn me off.
He's about, I'm going to beep boop.
Uh, but, like, no, like, like, Android, I think, is going to be, I mean, Android is
going to be, like, the final part.
Like, guys, we haven't even released Android.
We haven't really, we haven't even released Enforcer yet.
And, like, we haven't done the migration for Prime yet.
And I'm going to think about the end of Android and how we kind of create the overall
blockchain experience and, like, uh, kind of, like, bridge it all together.
Uh, and, like, because we can do this stuff because, because of what we can do on Sui.
Uh, so, like, I'm just, like, super bullish on, like, connecting the projects and, like,
having, like, interchangeable, like, an interchangeable experience.
Like, that's just something that you can't do on anywhere else, um, currently.
Uh, there are other blockchains that are starting to develop dynamic NFTs and, like,
But, like, the way Sui does it and, like, just their open source docs that they have
for people, like, like, there's so many projects that share their standards, they share their
open, but, like, they, like, they share the docs so people can, like, actively build.
Uh, and there's, like, so much support from the foundation.
There's so much support from this then, like, if you go to these events and you feel like
you're there for, like, you're, you're welcome there, right?
Um, like, there's never, you know, there's never a point in any of these events that we
felt, like, we didn't fit in.
And that's, like, something that is really hard to, uh, do, I feel like, as a blockchain.
Like, this is the first time, like, I, like, we've been feeling this as a project.
And I feel like it's shown, you know, like, we've literally 12x'd our engagement since,
since we announced the, uh, that we were going to Sui for our second chain.
Uh, I feel like, though, like, I feel...
...incorporated it into the story, too.
You know, the, the latest book that's just come out on the website has now started incorporating
I just like how you kind of mixed both of them together as well.
And, yeah, there's actually a mention of our unique armor set in one of those chapters.
Uh, it'd be pretty cool seeing soon.
What did you say, Rihanna?
Well, I was going to say, I feel like, um, just, like, with, like, with the Icon videos
that you, you know, released last year, I think that really, like, started kick-starting,
like, everything for you.
Um, and then just, and then doing the videos for Sui.
And so, like, um, like, I think that's made it easier, though, for you to connect.
Um, and as you've reached out and stuff, because you're like, hey, look, this is what I'm doing.
And, and this is what I can do.
And then once they, once they see what you can do, you know, what you've done, like,
that just, like, then accelerates you to do even more.
I think, like, for, for the Icon videos, like, you know, for Korea Blockchain, we really gave
us the foundation, you know, that we can do this, or that I can do this.
Because, like, before the Icon videos, like, I mainly shot, like, K-pop videos of, like,
real estate and, like, um, a lot of music videos.
Like, there's, like, I shot, like, one or two interviews.
But, like, dude, every single video from, like, the Korea Blockchain week were, like, bangers.
And that, like, really helped us set, like, our foundation, like, as a portfolio.
Um, because we, we use these video opportunities as almost, like, business opportunities,
networking, meeting clients and stuff like that.
Uh, so, like, you know, like, all of this was very, very useful for, uh, for, for how
we, like, you know, interacted with other communities.
Uh, because, like, after people from Sui saw, like, what we can do, um, it was very easy
for us to just be, like, hey, let's just shoot, let's just shoot something.
Um, bro, some of your best, like, dude, I don't know, like, you should be doing this right
Like, when, when you did your, like, your behind the scenes stuff, like, with Elsie and
stuff, like, your interview, like, you, you were at the restaurant eating and, you know,
Like, man, you should be doing all that, like, right now.
Like, as you're doing all, all these different trips and stuff and, like, just, like, like,
Dude, let me just, it's, I'm, like, I can't, you know, dude, I'm so busy that I literally
don't even have time to walk, like, because I'm using the camera to shoot stuff right now.
Like, we're shooting some crazy stuff right now.
I'm, I'm shooting some content for a few projects right now, um, and then I'm flying
to AVAX to, to do AVAX content, similar to what I did with Sui.
Uh, like, I got, I got the gig to work with AVAX, which is pretty crazy, if you think
about it, um, that, you know, like, just a year ago, or not even a year ago, like, uh,
like, it's 10 months ago, like, Mariah Media kicked off, and now we're doing gigs for Sui
That's pretty crazy, I think.
Uh, but, um, that has actually helped us build a lot of cool opportunities with projects
from AVAX and projects from Sui, but, yeah, no, I would love to be doing vlogs, but I
just, honestly, just don't, like, like, if I'm not filming, then I'm in meetings, and
if I'm not in meetings, then I'm in Twitter spaces, and if I'm not in Twitter spaces, I'm
preparing for, you know, like, stuff that's coming up.
So, like, I get it, I would love to be creating vlogs, but it's just not, it's just not in
my, in my, uh, schedule, like, it's just too much work, honestly, because I, like, I feel
like I'm already suffocating, but it's okay, it's, this is for you guys, I'm suffocating
for you guys, so, it's worth it.
Yeah, no, that's why, that's why I've always told you, like, you're my favorite person,
like, in all of crypto, like, you always talk to me, you still talk to me, you still talk
to me in DMs, um, you, you still make the time, because, like, I feel like I'm just, like,
not that important, I guess, like, I'm just a little guy, I live in Iowa, and it just,
it means a lot to me, like, it really does, like, and, and, and I know you don't do that
with just me, I know you do that with everybody, and, and, it's, in, in the Studio Mirai community,
um, I know you're like that with, with Christian, and in crypto, with Penguin, with Alex, um,
I'm not sure if you are with Norski or not, um, you might be, and then you might be with
others that are listening right now, and I know there's other people, like, like, Feto, and,
and, and, Feto, Feto, is it Feto, or Feto, it's Feto, I call it Feto, though, but,
come on, I told you, I'm not, I'm not good with the names, I'm not good with pronunciations,
come on, you know that, um, no, anyway, but, but no, like, that, that means, like, I don't know,
like, that, that means the world to me, and I know that world, means the world to everybody,
like, in the Studio Mirai community, and that's why you've grown the way you've grown,
um, you know, it's like, I don't know, like, I'm just, I'm just Kodo sus, I'm in the shadow realm,
and I think it's cool that I'm in the shadow realm, and it's just because, I don't know,
I'm a, I'm a D-Gen idiot, I don't care, though, but,
no, you're in the, you're, I'm pretty sure you're in the shadow realm, because you said Tomashis, but, yeah,
yeah, rule number one, yep, yeah, literally,
hey, there's only one Kodo sus, okay, there's only, there's only one,
and that's me, I actually, I've actually grown to like my name, I, I, I, I really do,
really, yeah, all right, I'll change it then, no, don't, just leave it,
I'll change it to Tomashis, oh, gosh, man, I can't, I can't believe, like, Energy Con is Bozo,
with two red X's, I, I saw that, I didn't even, I don't know, how did, how did Energy Con get to be Bozo?
Um, I write Koza for him.
What was he, uh, did he, what was he doing to, to, do you, like, I don't know, I'm just curious,
like, how did he get the name Bozo, like, like, I don't know, I, I just think it's funny,
I think it kind of fits Energy Con too, I think, but, okay.
In cryptos, you think I should ban LFG?
I think so, it's coming up way too much.
Let me pull up my computer.
I'm getting out of the bed for this.
I think you should ban Yo.
Dude, I kept seeing Yo so much the last couple days, I was like, oh my god, oh my god, oh.
I'm glad Yo's banned now.
It's to be expected, you know, when you start growing, I guess, you get lots of people coming through.
So, and the good ones will come through and learn their lesson, and the ones that don't
will just keep spamming the same shit.
I mean, I feel like we have to break the norms, you know, create new standards.
It's not healthy for a project.
It's the thing I loved when I came in, because it really irritates me.
Like, I'm in a lot of servers.
I mean, I know Eric's in a lot, but I'm also in a lot.
And that's the thing that I see in nearly every server.
There's no other community engagement.
Good morning is engagement.
You see, like, even on Twitter, you've got people like, say good morning back.
I don't want to say good morning.
Actually, I've been doing good morning tweets.
Going against your own rules.
I'd rather just have a conversation.
I don't want to say good morning.
Usually, in my good morning tweets, I've been dropping several alphas.
If it's got help for a text, it's acceptable.
Maybe you should ban good morning in the Discord.
Actually, maybe you should see what happens.
Maybe you start getting some more engagement.
I just saw the enforcer you were talking about, Katara, actually, you know, from the Buzz app.
I see what you're saying.
It's kind of like the black background.
Yeah, it's a mood for sure.
It's like, it's a little cute, I think.
Hey, Silver, I just sent you a request to speak if you're able to come up.
I'm not sure if you're here.
I like Silver, so it's cool.
Silver's one of my Shadow Realm homies.
So, but hopefully, hopefully he can, hopefully he can join up and speak.
I have, you know, in my headline, it says, you know, latest ICX and SUI ecosystem news.
The only SUI ecosystem news I've really talked, or we've covered is the enforcer and just what Studio Mirai is doing, which is fine.
And, but if Silver can come on, if he wants to add anything with SUI, like, that'd be fine.
Hey, guys, sorry, I'm about to eat avocado beer here.
Hey, Kotaro was talking about this cool thing that he was talking about with toilets and making money, if he wants to talk about it again.
What are you saying, bro?
I said, you're a nice fella.
I said, you're a nice fella.
This really feels like a late night space.
Except it's, like, say, for me, like, I didn't get much sleep last night.
So, I already feel really tired.
And it feels like it's midnight for me, too.
Because I only got, like, four hours of sleep.
I couldn't sleep much last night.
Are you still in the Shadow Realm now?
I'm never leaving the Shadow Realm.
Oh, bro, you didn't collect permission from me?
I was in the Shadow, I don't know when I even was put in the Shadow Realm.
Was I put in before you or after you?
Oh, I think it's before me because I'm the same as if I'm the, I'm the chief of Shadow
Yeah, I've probably, like, I've been in the Shadow Realm since before the Shadow Realm
That's why, that's why my name is, that's why my name has sus in it because I'm sussy.
Your name has sus in it because.
You know where the sus came from?
So, the sus came from, man, this was probably, like, six months ago.
I was joining Twitter spaces, like, in the Twitter, but not in the app.
Like, I was going to, like, through the web browser.
And so, I'm trying to tell Kotaro, and I'm trying to get Kodo and letting them know, like,
Like, I was there, and they're like, everybody's like, no, you weren't.
And I'd be taking screenshots that I'm in the Twitter spaces.
And then everybody's like, no, man, y'all weren't, you weren't there, man.
I'm like, what do you mean I wasn't there?
Like, how am I not showing up?
Well, it took me, it took me about five or six Twitter spaces to realize it was because
I needed the Twitter app to show up.
Definitely wasn't that innocent.
You were being actually sus.
No, I saw sus Christians.
But you were being somewhat.
No, I was just on, it was the Twitter spaces.
Yo, give me one of those laughs on the ringtone, please.
I hope you recorded that, because that one was natural.
I can't force that laugh.
If I try to force it, it doesn't come out right.
I had it on a phone board.
You're going to make me cough, man.
I'll do the impersonation.
That's a real honest laugh right there.
There's only one degenerate real honest laugh, and that's me.
Hey, Norski, how are you doing?
Are you still hanging out listening to us ramble?
Yeah, I'm still here, mate.
We've been gone since talking for like an hour and a half, I'm pretty sure.
I'm waiting for more of that toilet alpha.
There's some alpha I want to drop, but.
Penguin, you have your hands open.
I have a meeting in four minutes, so thank you for having me.
Thanks, Penwin, for coming on.
Like, I was kind of worried about you because I didn't hear from you much.
I was burping behind, so, yeah.
I was prepping for a meeting.
Going from there, I wasn't here.
Yeah, but I didn't understand.
Silver, are you interested in the toilet?
Man, was that, like, sirens or something in the background?
He's about to get arrested.
They got arrested if it's dropped into my drawer.
Hey, Penwin, have a good day, man.
I appreciate you so much.
I look forward to your news tomorrow.
Thank you so much for coming by.
Yeah, he might come back.
Oh, the alpha is too much on him.
I wonder if, well, Alex has been here.
He said he was going to be back in a half an hour.
I think it's been, like, 45 minutes.
But Alex is still, his mic is still active.
So, I don't know if he's around or not right now.
But, but anyway, shoot, I guess real quick.
Hey, Silver, what are you, what's your thoughts on the Sui mainnet launch next week?
Firstly, I'm going to talk about the pinned message up here.
I've been waiting for buzz, you know.
It's, it's a lot, it's a lot.
I've been waiting for buzz, even though it's available, the beta is available for the iOS users.
So, as an Android user, I'm waiting for, you know, the beta.
So, I can't wait to test buzz app.
I'm very, very excited about buzz app.
Okay, about the three mainnet, we've been seeing so much excitement, both good and bad, you know.
Most people aren't excited.
Did you get the allow list?
Anyone here got the allow list?
I haven't followed it close enough to have gotten any of that stuff.
I don't know, in crypto, though, did you get any of that?
I know you've been following a lot of the Sui stuff pretty, pretty hard.
Which, which bit, say it again.
Allow list, you know, on the private sale.
Well, there's a thing about this.
I'm not keen on the vest part of it, believe it or not.
So, I've never actually even attempted to sign up to the allow list.
I know some people will hate that, but I'm just going to buy when it,
People in my community, too, you know, they got.
And we are up and running.
So, the Sui mainnet is, you know, I can see many NFTs.
I think the NFT side of Sui mainnet excitement is more than the DeFi side of Sui mainnet excitement.
So, we will see the movement of the NFTs on Sui.
If they actually do well, you know, we have some Solana folks over here.
And they'll be waiting to see what Sui mainnet will be, whether they have gotten, you know, pretty good opponents.
You know, it's just like the Solana and the Sui peeps are kind of having a buzz and, like, fuse about the mainnet.
So, we've been expecting and we've been hoping that Sui will prove us right.
And, you know, even though every blockchain has haters, too, I think we'll have to maximize it and, you know, make most of it out of it.
So, bullish on Sui, very, very bullish on Sui.
I can see Encrypto with the Fodis PFP.
And a lot of people here have the Studio Mirai PFP.
I have the Survivors PFP, too.
So, we've been bullish and we've been having a lot of conversations over Sui mainnet, ranging from the NFTs, you know, the Clutchie, and trying to get so many people as possible.
And we have the Forgotten Disguise that are also on IPTOS, the Solve Launchpad, and so many other clients.
So, it's going to be a bumper ride, too.
I tried to β well, Kotaro sent me a request because he came back and then I β then he backed back out as a listener.
Like, he β I think he accepted it.
And then, like, I heard a bunch of background noise, like a car horn or something.
And then, I think he backed back to a listener.
It might be loud or something where he is or something right now.
But, yeah, I'm kind of, like β because I'm in the United States.
And so, it's like I can't take advantage of any of, you know, any of the, like, the pre-sale stuff or any of that stuff because, you know, since they just β you know, they don't β you know, the United States, we don't know what we're doing over here.
We want to, you know, we want to try to kill crypto and kill innovation.
And, you know, we just wanted to, it seems like, destroy our country over here for the worse.
I was talking to somebody yesterday.
I had this lady that I delivered to, and she was like, yeah, these people β I talked to a bunch of people, you know, in different countries, you know, outside of the United States.
And they're all telling me I need to move.
And I was like, yeah, I kind of feel that way, too.
Like, I feel like I need to β I need to be somewhere that's more crypto-friendly and for, you know, that type of, you know, the innovation because the United States is just β I don't know.
We're just run by a bunch of idiots over here.
What about pre-sale for Sui?
No, I'm in the U.S., so I cannot.
But if you guys are struggling to get Sui, we will be having β
How would you get it in the seat of arms?
But, like, we don't have β like, first of all, I'm based in the States, so that's only a problem.
But if you guys are in the crowd and you want to buy a motion and you don't have Sui or you don't know how to get Sui, we will be allowing for USD minting, so you can use your credit card to mint as well.
And if you do it through our profile, so we're creating, like, a profile system where you log in with your Discord, and it's, like, super easy.
Just go to our site, log in with Discord, because we have your register addresses in Discord.
It will create an account for you run by Shinami.
Shinami is a protocol that builds sort of, like, web-to-intuitive products for Sui.
So you'll create a profile, and then you'll be able to mint entities with either Sui or with your credit card right in the app.
And if you do all of, like, the building your motion, like, swapping your trades, all that stuff, all of the gas fees will be paid for.
And all the transactions will be signed because it's through our profile system.
So you'll be pretty much able to swap trades, color in your motion, do everything.
In the future, you'll be able to play the trading card game through our app.
All gasless and transactionless.
So, you know, people coming in from, it's, like, to attract the ideal user experience that you can just be in here without ever having to pay for gas or anything like that.
So we're, like, super excited to, like, bring that out.
So I know a lot of projects are going to be struggling to find Sui.
I know, like, our community, for sure, there's a lot of people that can't get their hands on Sui.
So you'll just be able to mint with your card if you want.
So there's that option that you do.
And if you do do it through our system, no gas, no transactions, just click and done.
Literally, you just come in, log in, click, mint, done.
And then you can just start playing with it.
So we're pretty excited to build that experience out for you guys.
Because, like, and if you, it's fun.
We're not sure if we want to add this yet.
But when you're putting your Masha through the render, so, because, like, you have to, you build your Masha and then you put it through, like, the, like, the render process, which we might call it, like, construction or something like that.
But when it renders, you'll be put into a queue.
And the queue could be, like, quite long because, like, one Masha might take, like, three to five minutes to render.
We bought, like, a separate Mac just to render this on the cloud.
So, like, that computer is only for rendering.
So, you'll be able to be placed into this queue.
And if you want, you can bribe the queue with your Kodo to cut the line.
So, if you're, like, a Kodo whale IQ, you can just, like, get all of your stuff first.
And if you don't have any Kodo, you may be waiting on that queue for a while.
So, but, like, no more than, like, two days, probably.
But, like, still, if you want to cut the line, you can do it with Kodo.
Yeah, I wonder, in any time in the past, though, like, you know, because I'm in the United States, too.
And, you know, my credit cards are based here in the States.
Any time, like, when I've tried to get crypto with a card?
Like, it, like, flags me.
And it won't let the transaction go through.
You're not getting crypto with a card, though.
Well, that's what I was going to ask.
Like, is it going to be set up to where, when the transaction goes through, it's not, like, recognized that way.
It's, like, recognized as, you know, a product or goods or a service or whatever.
And, like, okay, perfect.
It's going to be recognized as that because, like, that's how you're going to have to.
Like, it's funny because, like, people are always talking about bridging Web 2 and Web 3 and, like, getting Web 2 users to Web 3.
But it's the complete opposite.
Like, you're trying to get Web 3 users into Web 2 while using Web 3 tech.
That's, like, what people should be trying to do.
Like, if we're, like, we're going to be in here for the next 20 years before people from Web 2 start going to Web 3.
Like, I'm actually, like, I think what Buzz is doing, like, super, super intuitive.
Like, I'm just super bullish on Buzz.
Like, I think, like, after being, obviously, like, an icon because Icon has that, like, cross-chain, interoperable narrative.
Like, seeing Buzz just do it, it's, like, just amazed me a lot.
You know, like, I'm super bullish on Buzz, right?
Like, you can pretty much, like, anybody from any chain or anybody that doesn't even have NFTs can just go on Buzz and buy a NFT, regardless of what chain it's on, regardless of what currency you own.
You can just buy anything that's on that app.
Solana, Sol, or sorry, Solana, AVAX, ETH, SUI, and they're adding a bunch of chains as well.
If you own USD, you can still buy.
If you own Sol, you can buy AVAX or whatever.
If you own only SUI, you can still buy from any of the other projects.
And they're pretty much doing it all on the back end through their system and their protocol.
So, like, that's, like, crazy.
That's, like, actual adoption.
That's literally cross-chain adoption right there.
Like, I don't know how, you know, like, people got to step it up because, like, it's already happening.
And they've, like, play tested it.
Like, Joe is, like, a marketing genius.
I trust him with my life.
But, like, he is our PFD, so I do, you know?
But, like, yeah, Buzz and how it's just so easy because, like, I don't really try to avoid Google extensions, you know, for wallets.
I think it's just, like, a hassle.
And until we get rid of that, I don't see Web2 users using, like, Web3 wallets and stuff like that.
So, like, what Buzz is doing, everything within the mobile app, genius.
And then I also, like, really like what we're doing because, like, how we're managing, like, the wallets through the Shunami protocol, you don't have to download a Google extension to use a wallet.
Your wallet will be your identification card within our community.
So, when we roll up Kodo and we roll up these profiles, there will be an ID card associated with your Discord user.
So, that identification card will have your profile pic, which you can set as any of the entities that you own.
It'll show when you joined our Discord.
It'll show when you were last active.
It'll show all of the roles that you're in.
You know, if you have, like, tribe access, mob access, you know, like, if you're one of the pillars, you know, stuff like that.
It'll show how much Kodo you have as well and, like, the transaction history of all your Kodo if you click into it.
So, it's, like, an actual identification card for you to use.
And with that card, you'll be able to access everything in our server.
So, the secret product that I can't mention yet, like, later on, depending on, you know, how active you are, you can get token allocation for that.
Um, and then the trading card game, you'll be able to access the game, uh, be practiced in, like, special, special events and stuff like that.
Um, like, a proper identification card.
And, like, that is, like, that connects all of our collections together via one user-based profile.
Um, that's accessible by Weibo Web 2.
That's, like, that's crazy.
Like, that's, this is, like, what we're working on pretty much, um, building that bridge, building our own bridge, you know?
That's, I mean, that's how you gotta do it.
You just gotta think of your own solution and just build it before you wait, you wait around for something, something similar to be built.
Like, cause, like, if you wait around, like, something may be built related to it, you're gonna have to adapt to it, like, anyways.
Uh, so we're just, like, alright, F it, we're just gonna build it ourselves.
And now we're releasing it soon, so.
We're super excited to release that.
I don't know why I'm even sorry to talk about this.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Well, no, no, I appreciate that.
No, that's why I'm, like, I'm eager to get, get my hands.
Like, hopefully, you know, they're doing an Android, cause I have Android, you know, for the wallet this week.
Um, cause, yeah, no, I, I really wanna test it out.
Like, I haven't, um, yeah, cause it's, yeah, like, with Sui and, like, the test nets and stuff, like, mostly, like, it seems like the only way to do stuff is, like, yeah, like, do, like, the Chrome browser extension.
And it's like, man, I, I don't have a computer, but, like, I don't really get on it that much.
And so, like, I've tried to figure out, like, at least with my phone, like, what can I do?
Like, what, what can I do to, to mess around and test some of the Sui stuff, like, with my phone?
And, like, I haven't been able, I haven't been able to find out how to do that.
Like, somebody in the Discord last week told me, well, cradle, the cradle wallet.
Well, I tried to sign up the cradle wallet, and it doesn't, it doesn't finish.
So, like, I still, like, haven't been able to mess around and, like, test with stuff.
And so, like, with the, you know, with the Buzz app, that's why I'm so, like, looking forward to it.
Because, like, hearing you talk about it, I'm like, yeah, like, that sounds like, for me to use on my phone, that sounds like the go-to wallet to use.
And so, like, I keep, it's built, it's built for that mobile experience.
Like, everything is, like, like, like, like, right now, it's still, like, the beta testing, of course.
Like, but in the future, like, you know, like, you'll be able to mint NFTs directly to whatever platform.
Like, you can take a selfie with your friends and mint them as an NFT, pretty much, if you want, and send them to it, right?
You can have, like, a Venmo system in the, in the Buzz app as well.
And for me, like, for people like me and, like, other founders, we can pretty much, like, set a fee.
And people have to, like, pay that fee before they can even DM us, which is, like, pretty interesting.
I'll probably set mine as, like, 69 US dollars, something, something, something whack like that.
But, you know, like, the fact that you can come in as a person that's never touched NFTs before and buy it with any currency.
Like, just think about how, like, crazy that is.
And, like, that's, like, if you're coming from Solana and you only have Solana in your wallet and you're interested in a project that's on AVAX, how would you do that right now, right?
You would have to, and you only own Solana.
You would have to go transfer your Solana somewhere to AVAX, pay some gas fee, and then, and then put it back in the wallet.
And then buy it, buy it, buy it, buy the AVAX.
But here, you can just use your Solana and you can just buy it.
Like, in the back end, we'll, we'll, we'll run the process.
I don't know if the process is public, but, so I, I don't know if I can share it, but it's pretty intuitive, like, the back end.
So, like, oh, man, I'm so bullish on Buzz.
I can't wait to just, like, start trading, like, actually trading NFTs, you know?
And, like, they're, they're curating a list of projects that's on it.
So, like, having the gated communities is pretty cool, too.
So, like, act like the chats on Buzz will only be accessible to people that own the NFTs, which is nice.
You know, we, we already sort of have that, so we already know what, what it feels like.
Um, but for Buzz is, we'll be able to, like, collab with other projects from other ecosystems, like, whitelist-wise or, like, uh, mince or whatever, and we can allocate them to certain groups in our gated community.
So, like, for example, if, um, you know, people that own the Forest of Motion, like, only people that own the Forest of Motion get whitelist from this, like, X project, that can happen.
Only projects from Primation get whitelist from certain projects, that can happen.
Um, and they'll be allocated directly through the app, and then upon mint day, you can mint directly from the Buzz app, because it connects with Clutchy and all the other marketplaces.
And you can just, you know, do everything through the app, and you'll be whitelisted, because you're already part of the application process.
So, like, that's just, like, super, like, they've thought of everything already, and they put it all into one app.
Takes 40 seconds to set up a wallet and everything.
Like, come on, man, like, this is, this is what, this is what people gotta compete with, you know?
Yeah, it's interesting, like, say, I don't know, 10, 10 years from now, 20 years from now, like, where are we gonna be at?
Um, like, I'm, I'm thinking back, uh, like, even 20 years ago, like, from 20 years ago to, like, now, like, you know, there, there was no crypto 20 years ago.
And, like, the internet, there's still a lot of people 20 years ago that didn't even, like, really have access to the internet yet.
Um, and just, like, I don't know, like, how, how everything has come, and it, it's, like, to see, like, where are we gonna be at in 10 or 20 years?
Who knows, but, um, it's just, like, that, that's why, I don't know, like, I like crypto, I like blockchain, I think, you know, blockchain is the future.
Um, I'm sure some projects and some chains are gonna come and go, I mean, they already have, but to be innovative like that, like what you're saying, um, like, uh, like that type of, you know, wallet,
and be able to interchange that easily, and to be able to access stuff like that easily, um, especially to bring web to people in, like, yeah, that, that, I mean, that, that blows my mind, like, everything that, that you just said.
And, like, what you said, like, they've thought of everything.
It's, like, that's, that's what you need to do, like, like, you know, if you want to come out with, like, the, a state-of-the-art product, like, one of the best things you can do is, like,
like, lay it out, like, what, what is not done, and what can be done, and how can you do it to, like, make it better.
Um, and then, yeah, anyway, so, I can't wait to try it.
Yeah, like, I think what they're building is, like, they're adapting to new technologies that are coming out.
Like, the backend that they're utilizing isn't, like, products that they've built, like, themselves.
They're utilizing other platforms that are already existing, and I think that's actually the problem with a lot of things I see on, on Icon, is that they focus on building, like, they focus on building it, rather than using existing, using existing platforms that, like, like, leveraging existing technology.
I mean, you saw that what happened with Icon, pretty much.
Um, like, um, like, I think, like, for, for us to compete with technology, I don't know, I don't understand why we have to build it ourselves, you know?
Like, like, leveraging technology is how we're gonna, like, push together, like, in Web3.
Like, Web3 is gonna, it's a collective effort, uh, and, like, leveraging technology, using different resources and all that stuff.
Yeah, I've been talking for two hours.
My meeting was supposed to be short, but it ended up being very long, because we were, like, making some life-changing decisions.
Hey, anything, anything you want, anything you want to share?
Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm gonna, yeah, I'll probably, I'll stop the spaces here, like, in the next nine minutes.
I got, I got, I got stuff to do today.
Kotaro needs to go to sleep.
Um, so yeah, I'll stop it here in nine minutes at the top of the hour.
But Alex, any, anything you want to share?
Uh, nothing but pre-related, but, like, um, so, uh, I'm a mentor at, uh, digital product development program here in Estonia.
And, uh, we were deciding which students, these kids that Kotaro keeps talking about that follow me everywhere.
We were deciding which eight students will get into a university, uh, without exams.
And, like, basically get a green, or, like, a, a pass, a free pass to uni, to our, like, um, uh, like, Taltech, which is, sounds like Caltech, but it's not, it's Taltech, which is a technology university here in Estonia, in Thailand.
And, yeah, we've, we've made a decision where it was really difficult.
And so, you got to figure it out, then?
We had, we figured it out.
It was, like, super difficult, because, like, how do you decide, well, someone is really good, right?
Someone shows, so, criteria, right?
You have a student who is really good, just, like, an awesome programmer, right?
You have a student who is just, has a lot of potential, but needs the right kick.
Or, or you have the student that is, that is average.
Like, which one do you pick?
Okay, let's say they put average away, but you, you pick the programmer, or the one who has a lot of potential, just needs the right kick, and the right environment.
And maybe the university environment is the right environment for that student.
Or should I pick the really good developer, who, who can just not go to uni and work as a developer anyway, and earn shitloads of money?
So, but they all want to get into the university, you know?
Yeah, I tell, like, like, this is, I don't know, this might be kind of off.
But, like, I used to, like, one of my past jobs, a couple years ago, I used to work in a washroom for a big laundry facility.
And they did mostly, like, industrial laundry.
Industrial and or, like, they did a lot of meat packing plants and all this different stuff.
And so, anyway, I got a job there.
I ended up getting trained into the washroom.
And just different jobs in general in the past.
Like, I've always told people, like, if I just need the right training, and I feel like I can succeed at anything I do, I just need to be trained.
And I just need proper training.
And then once I got the training down and know exactly what to do, then, like, I don't know, like, my thinking process will go to, like, a whole nother level.
And I'll, like, analyze everything.
Like, so, for example, when I did the washroom, like, I had to manage, like, six, like, huge washing machines and then two smaller washing machines.
And then we had, like, a huge dryer that was on the backside of that.
And then we had, like, two smaller dryers.
And so, anyway, like, by myself, like, I would be constantly thinking as I'm washing all these different, like, loads of clothes and product from meat coats.
Because the meat coats got to be separate.
And then you got your pants.
And then you got your different fabrics.
Like, you got your polyester shirts and your cotton shirts.
You got your cotton pants, your polyester pants.
Like, everything's got to be, like, washed separate.
And everything has, like, a certain wash time.
And it was just, like, I don't know.
I could do a two-person job in there, like, by myself.
Like, by the time I left that company, like, they were blown away at, like, how good I was able to do it.
And I was constantly thinking the whole time I'm doing it and I'm at work, like, what's the best load?
Like, what should I wash next?
And it's just, it was, like, a constant, like, game to me.
And how, with quality and quantity, how can I make this and get this done in the most efficient and best way possible?
And so, like, they would always want to wash, like, 60,000 pounds a day minimum.
And, like I said, usually that'll take two people.
And sometimes two people can't even wash 60,000 pounds.
Like, and I would do 60,000 pounds by myself on certain days if I did it all correct based on what I was washing.
And, you know, I was, so, so this is, so this is, this is what happened.
So I was so good at what I did in the washroom for this company that once a management position opened up, like, that's where I wanted to go.
Because I'm like, you know, I'm like, I know this industry.
Like, I used to work off the back of a truck and do the delivery of this stuff.
I did it for eight years in Houston, Texas.
And then I move up to Iowa, and instead of doing a route up here in Iowa, because they didn't have one open, then, you know, like I said, I worked in, I started working in the plant.
I did unloading and loading trucks and that stuff.
And then, like I said, from there, I got put in the washroom.
But I was so good in the washroom.
When that position opened to be, like, the actual plant manager, like, they wouldn't even give me an interview.
They wouldn't even entertain me or the thought of me because they wanted to keep me in the washroom.
And it just, like, it really rubbed me so wrong.
I'm like, how could they not even give me an interview?
I was like, why would they not want to move me up?
And then I can train somebody and train somebody in this washroom and other people in the washroom to be able to do it the way I was able to do it.
And then I can also use my knowledge and expertise in the laundry industry to then make the rest of the plant better, to make it more efficient and proficient in other places that, you know, to make it better.
And it's like, they wouldn't interview me.
They wouldn't even, like, entertain the thought, like, of me because they wanted me to stay in the washroom because I was just so good over there.
And so I ended up leaving.
Like, I felt so, like, I was just like, how can y'all not, like, even give me an interview?
You know, like, don't you want to keep, like, your best people?
Because your best people is what's going to, you know, make your company that much better.
And so anyway, so I told him that.
I'm just like, you know what?
Like, I just go somewhere else.
Like, I just, does that make sense?
Like, I know it just kind of went on and on, but.
I know what you're saying.
I know what you're saying.
I mean, it depends what life situation you're in as well.
And in this case, you know, it can be demotivating for the student, for example, if he is rejected.
Well, if he's not given this green pass to the university, even though we know he can get into that university without us giving him the pass, it can be demotivating.
But the other student would not get into university at all.
So, but has the same amount of potential, if not more, that you see.
Like, it's a difficult choice.
It is a difficult choice.
So, but in your case, I think the management was just thinking about, like, right now, how can we make more money or, like, be more efficient right now?
Like, we are not thinking about the future.
That's just poor management, I think.
Like, yeah, so, but anyway, like, I didn't mean to go on and ramble about that, but, oh, man, I'm going to get off of here.
Alex, any last words you want to say?
Norski, I appreciate you staying on this whole time.
You got anything you want to close with?
Cheers for the space, guys.
My final thought is, I just wonder if we're going to see an NFT project taking advantage of the Icon Delegation Program.
You can get up to $5 million in votes, you know?
So, if somebody does a mint and gets themselves, what is it, 5% of $5,250,000 ICX, you know?
That's a bit of a nice passive income for an NFT team or somebody building on the ecosystem.
I wonder if we'll see somebody come up and take that offer up.
Oh, I already know, and Anis Invictus is already doing that, and so, yeah, they're a main P-REP now.
They, yeah, I'm really, really bullish on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm really bullish on Anis Invictus.
He was going to maybe try to stop by the spaces today, but I guess he wasn't able to.
But, yeah, no, he, yeah, he was, yeah, he was, yeah, he's a main P-REP now.
I think he made an announcement about that the other day.
Yeah, he's definitely looking to take advantage of the incentive program to help, you know, to help with his note,
to help with him being able to, you know, get his spaceship tabletop game project done and complete.
Because he's kind of like a one-man team.
He's doing all the work himself.
And, like, I've been a huge supporter of him.
Like, I've been a, you know, I've been a, what's the word I want to say?
I've delegated, you know, ICX to his project.
And so, yeah, he's, yeah, he, I'm really, really excited for the future for him.
And this incentive program is definitely, it's good for anybody, any of the P-REP's.
And so, yeah, like, I don't know anybody else other than them.
I'm sure there are others.
I think Icon, actually, I think they're a main P-REP now.
I think they're, as far as I know, I think they might be taking advantage of it as well.
And so, I mean, shoot, I wish I could do it, but I'm just a little guy over here.
I'd like to see Project Nebula do it as well, man, because they've been struggling for development funding, you know,
just to keep paying their developers and everything.
And if they still have a bag of ICX, I hope they jump on to it as well.
I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
I haven't seen much from them recently.
And when I say recently, I mean just, like, maybe over the last couple weeks.
Didn't they, like, go to Polygon, kind of, now?
Well, they tried to do a mint to move on to Polygon, but the market is such now they didn't get much traction in their mint.
So they kind of just sort of stalled and then they said before the mint, if we don't sell at least half of it, we'll refund everybody.
So they fell short of the half mark and then they refunded everybody who minted through that.
So they're still here on ICON, they're still running, and they said they're going to keep the game going for at least a year.
So where it's at now is they've basically got a year now to sort of sort if they're going to get more development funding or to find a different avenue or something.
I mean, I know I've thought about trying to talk with people and see if the CPS would be interested in getting a piece of Project Nebula and getting them building and trying to fund them or just find an alternative way to keep it going because it brought a lot of people into the ecosystem before.
It'd be a shame to see them sort of fizzle out.
Yeah, yeah, maybe that would, yeah, that, you know, bringing that up, like, maybe that would be good for them.
I wonder if they've been looking at that and seeing if that's, you know, a potential, you know, option, you know, for them because, yeah, I would, you know, I would love for them to be able to get the funding because from what I haven't played the game, but from what I've heard, like, a lot of people like it.
And when they were talking about how they couldn't get the funding or ran out of money and so they were going to try to migrate over to Polygon, like, I kind of felt bad because I'm like, I was just like, man, they, like, you know, they can't get any backing from, you know, from, you know, any of the, any company or any of these companies because I know they were talking about, like, VCs and stuff, like, not wanting to come on just because of the, like,
the fact that they were on Icon and weren't on like some kind of like Ethereum-based chain like Polygon or whatever, which I don't know, like, I'm ready for Icon to take over and just put any of these, you know, possible VC companies or any of the, any of these futters or whatever, like, I just, I just, I just wanted to put them to shame, honestly.
And then, and then they can look back and see, like, hey, all of us that stuck around and support and have supported Icon this whole time, you know, like, anyway, like, we're, we're, we're, we're living high and large and, and, you know, because, because we believed in what they're doing and what they're building.
And, and, um, anyway, yeah, I'm not going anywhere.
I love Icon, you know, I, I am branching into other stuff and I think it's smart to branch into other stuff.
You know, I'm, I'm going to get into Sui some, I'm going to, I'm going to keep following Studio Mirai.
They're like one of my, they're one of my top projects.
Um, and, you know, I'm going to follow them wherever they go.
And, you know, there's a lot of projects in Icon that, you know, Penguin, uh, Frames, like Gangsta Bet and Aniston Bigness, like I support all these guys.
Um, if I'm leaving one out right now, like, I don't mean to, like, I'm really just, like, real quick trying to think off the top of my head.
Uh, super, super bullish on craft.
Balance is really important.
I think having their decks where, um, the NFT projects, if they want to have a token that they can actually have a marketplace to bring it to by default as built-in stable coins and everything.
I think that's a nice little piece of utility that often gets overlooked as well.
Yeah, like, because, like, if we didn't have balance, like, we, you know, what would we be doing?
Like, like, you got to have, like, a main decks.
And, um, and I actually, I've thought about getting some and locking it up because, you know, I've been hearing, you know, people that do so.
And they're just like, yeah, man, I just, we'll just keep getting the fees.
Just keep getting them trading fees.
And, um, and, uh, I'm just like, yeah, I think I need to take advantage of that.
Um, it was kind of sad, though, like, what happened with Ohm.
Um, and so I kind of wonder, uh, what's going to, what, what, you know, they, I guess they're going to do this liquid staking thing.
But I'm not sure fully exactly, you know, how that's going to work.
But, um, yeah, hopefully Ohm can, you know, Ohm can be okay.
Um, I think it will be, it's just, uh, we'll see what happens, though.
And then, um, yeah, like, and then Convexus, too.
Um, whenever, whenever they launch, that'll be, you know, another, that'll be, I guess, a second, like, kind of decks.
Yeah, it's going to be like Uniswap version three, which I'm not big on, like, I haven't used a lot of that kind of stuff.
And I'm not part of the team that's building it.
But, uh, I do chat with, uh, like the devs from my peer app team that are building it with protocol seven as well.
And it sounds exciting, but, uh, just the waiting a little bit longer to go.
But, but, but yeah, bullet, bullish, bullish on icon always have been always will be.
Um, the, the X call stuff that's going on, how they're integrating in a cosmos.
Like, uh, you know, in craft, I love craft craft.
And, and I, man, I, I'm, I'm excited.
That's all, that's all I can say.
And so anyway, but I'm going to get off here.
Silver, I know you're listening now.
I appreciate you coming on.
Um, and, uh, Alex, are you still there?
I don't know if Alex is still there.
I'm just, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I got to, I got stuff I got to do.
But I appreciate you coming.
Um, you always, I always appreciate what you have to say.
Um, it really means a lot to me.
Uh, Norski, you come in and stay in this whole day.
Like, I just thank you so much for that.
Silver, you were on speaking some.
Always appreciate you coming by.
Any, everybody that comes by.
Uh, it's just, it just, I don't know.
I can't, my words can't express how grateful I am.
Thank you for hosting the space.
Thanks for hosting the space, man.
Yeah, we all appreciate you, like, sitting up this platform for everyone to be together and hanging out, man.
It's all about the community.
Yeah, I, I appreciate that.
Um, and then, and then, like I said, my, my guy, Kotaro, like, he, he's my favorite person in the whole space.
And, and, okay, I'm leaving, I'm, I'm leaving.
I would, I don't know, like, uh, I love that guy.
Anyway, I'll see y'all later.