RTFKT Reborn, Otherside, Exodus Rising, AI | Grateful Show #429

Recorded: Jan. 8, 2026 Duration: 2:09:00
Space Recording

Short Summary

The Grateful Show 429 showcased exciting developments in the crypto space, including the launch of the Clutch Perps platform aimed at generating revenue for the Bored Ape Yacht Club. With strategic partnerships and innovative treasury strategies, the project is set to capture significant trading volume, highlighting a positive trend in NFT and DeFi growth.

Full Transcription

I keep around. That's how you're supposed to be. Cause you know I'm out of smoke and up. And you know why?
You got a little drink.
I keep them rolled up, sagging my pants,
not caring what I show.
Keep it real, what?
My niggas keep it player for these hoes.
It look clean, don't it?
Watch it the other day.
Watch how you lean on it.
Keep me some 501 jeans on and roll joints bigger
than King Kong's fingers and smoke them hoes down
to the stingers.
You a class clown, and if I skip for the damn witcha bitch smoking great.
It's like I'm 17 again.
Peach fuzz on my face.
Looking on the case.
Trying to find a hella taste.
Oh my God.
I'm on the chase.
Chevy is getting kind of heavy.
Relevant selling it.
Dipping away.
Time keeps slipping away.
Zipping the safe.
Flipping for pay.
Tipping like I'm dripping in paint.
Up front, smoke lunch like Khalifa, put the weed in the chain.
We play a jar, so well we smoke weed.
We're just having fun.
We don't care who sees.
So well we go out, that's how it's supposed to be.
Living young and wild and free
And now I don't even care
Cause if me and my team in there
It's gonna be some weed in the air
Tell them Mac
Blowing everywhere we going
And now you know when I step right up
Get my lighter so I can light up
That's how it should be done
Soon as you think and you're down
Find how to turn things around
Now things are looking up
From the ground up Pound up this Taylor gang So turn my sound up and mount up and do my thing
now i'm chilling fresh out of class feeling like i'm on my own and i could yo yo yo gm everybody
so hyped to be here check on the pin check the pin tweet and click on the link because the badge
today is absolutely insane i will share more about the graphic and why it
looks like that but guys we still have three more minutes of intro drop a gm in the comments
uh comment bookmark the space and please retweet the space because algo is crazy you know everyone's
pushing articles no one's pushing spaces we need more focus on spaces 100 but guys please retweet
bookmark and let's fucking go.
I will share the code soon.
I see Dr. DaveCoin.
Come on, man.
Come here and let's celebrate the avatar.
It looks crazy.
I already got it.
Let's fucking go, everybody.
I have a special song in a minute.
Oh, I see also Alpha DJ and the Orange Mafia is here.
Orange Mafia here. We just roll one, smoke one.
When you live like this, you're supposed to party. Roll one, smoke one, and we all just having fun.
That's how it's supposed to be
Living young and wild
Hell yeah, that's exactly guys
How we living, let's fucking go
Tino's waiting for my moment, right?
Young, wild and free
You know, maybe not Tino, but
The rest of them, no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding
He's gonna punch me in the face tomorrow, I'm sorry
But guys, we still have one more minute
So retweet this the space bookmark it
click on that link wait for the code because the code is so simple if anyone got the code you guys
are geniuses you are einstein level uh genius uh let me quickly check if anyone got it and um
hold on hold on oh just me oh my god we don't have Einstein's. Oh, maybe we do. I don't know but guys one more minute. Let's go
Okay, I'm going right now The mirror of your tree!
Make believe I'm everywhere, even in the light.
Oh my god, I love this song so much.
Written on the pages is the answer to a never-ending story. Ah!
It's me and Tino, guys. It's me and Tino guys, it's me and Tino
Yeah, this is series four. Oh my god
I've been doing a lot of bike because I've been watching Stranger Things since episode one season one
And I already made it to a to season four. It's crazy, but guys
This is Grateful Show 429. What's going on today? Let's go!
GM GM everybody, such a hype day.
It's Thursday, it means Grateful Show.
I had like 10 coffees, so energy is of course high.
So many things to talk about from Artifact to Avatars.
There are so many avatars.
Oh my God.
If you go to open page, you can mean so many, so many great avatars.
And Hero the Doggo, you know, by Dr. Dave Cohen here in the audience is one of them.
Absolutely love that.
We're going to be talking about other side.
We're going to be talking about AI because AI is getting out of hand.
And we're going to be talking also about something
that Simple Farmer has been cooking, the Clutch V4.
So a lot of topics, a lot of great stuff.
If you want to join us here on stage, just request.
I'll get you here.
Of course, retweet the space so more people see it.
And I will share the code really, really soon
after I ask Tino, how is he doing?
So Tino, what's up, man?
How are you doing, man?
Yo, GM, GM GM we're really good uh always uh very cautious what's gonna happen in the beginning of the show what kind of songs are gonna be played what kind of jokes are gonna be made oh my god
uh I'm getting always so nervous uh but all good here man uh it's been pretty busy. I don't even know that it was holiday anymore.
We started like crazy right into the new year.
And I love that, man.
I really love it.
Had some really cool meetings today and I'm super excited.
How have you been, man?
Man, I'm doing absolutely great.
What a great start of the year.
I think AI is really getting out of hand, man, with a cloud and even chat GPT. And I shared the prompt and I showed how actually Grok handled that and chat GPT. Grok is such a bad AI for images, it's absolutely terrible, but man, Gemini and ChatGPT
and probably many others are absolutely crazy, bro. Like, what's happening? A few people actually
also DM me with 3D renders that are also absolutely insane, something that would,
I don't know, it probably wasn't even possible a few years ago. And now I have renders of me doing spaces, playing basketball, checking my BAYC hoodie.
It's insane, man.
Yeah, it's going really quickly.
That's exactly that.
Our brain is not really capable of getting the explanation of exponential growth
because this is what's happening.
Each of the models is exponentially better
and it's just crazy.
You are right also with the video.
We did some things today with photos enhancements
and bro, seriously, shot on iPhone,
put through a lightning app or something like that, something with lights.
And bro, it's just incredible. It feels like a fashion shoot for like, I don't know, tens of
thousand euros or something. It's really, really insane. And I think we're just in the beginning.
That's the fun part. That's the best part, actually. It's insane, really insane. And I think we're just in the beginning. That's the fun part.
That's the best part, actually.
It's insane, man.
Now the question is like,
should I actually hire a photographer or should I prompt it?
Which is absolutely nuts, right?
Yeah, it's funny.
We were having a photo shoot during the weekend
and we were going through the models and I'm like,
wow, it's such a waste of money. I'm're going through the models and i'm like wow it's such a
waste of money i'm sorry to all the models in the audience which are zero probably but uh it's uh
it's crazy that you uh of course uh we're different because we're still uh the offline
brand and they're in the streets and everything sometimes you just uh need to do it but uh at the
same time there is no need anymore, to be very honest.
We talked about it here on the show.
For example, the graphics that you got from somebody just randomly rendered for you a year ago or two years ago,
you would pay $100 at least for each of them.
And, you know, for us, it's
just a GM thing. You post
it several times on your GM. You're not
making money from that content,
but you still are spending
quite some money for having
these created. And I think
it's very cool. It's
very exciting for all the content creators.
I do agree with you that with
Claude and basically anyone
being able to create anything just from an idea man i like for people like us it's it's just
insane because from an idea to the final product it literally takes hours which is crazy i love this
man when i whenever i meet someone i know i ask ask them if they use AI and a lot of people use
A lot of people use ChatGPT.
Not that many people actually use Vibe coding.
So I think we are kind of ahead here in Web3.
I know AlphaDegen, he tried to Vibe code actually app to change all the BYC backgrounds to Orange,
but it didn't work.
He wanted to change the world.
Actually, it worked.
I just couldn't get to the BAYC contract.
Sorry, bro.
What's up, bro?
How you doing, man?
How you doing?
Welcome here.
Good to hear you.
Such a legend.
Yeah, man.
Likewise, man.
I don't think our week would be complete if we didn't hear the famous grateful giggle.
You know, that thing. You know, so So yeah man, great to hear you as well. Tino on YouTube bro, salute. Bro, I was telling him the other day because he's been testing with his ape some of the
videos and everything and whenever the ape has a different voice than his, it just feels super awkward.
I'm like, bro, just clone your fucking laugh and your voice.
That's just it.
You don't need anything else.
You don't need any actors or AI voices.
Yeah, that's right.
If I see the video and it's his ape and I know that's his ape and it don't have a voice, I don't want it.
I'm going to skip it.
As a matter of fact, I'm going to dislike it.
I'm going to unfollow whatever account it comes from. Put on the voice, I don't want it. I'm going to skip it. As a matter of fact, I'm going to dislike it. I'm going to unfollow whatever account it comes from.
Put on the laugh or we don't want it, bro.
You see, Grateful?
I think you got the reply here.
Yeah, man.
I just don't know how to clone it.
You know, how to use, because the AI tool I'm using, it has just like 10 voices and I
cannot use mine.
So hopefully they fix it.
And man, if i can
clone my voice that would be so good man because i would be i actually i was thinking about one
thing man that i want to try and i will share share it here publicly you know there are no
secrets in in bayc community but man we should have like a ai co-host here and he could do all
the fuck checks with us like we would be we always talk about like, Hey, when was the main time?
We would be like, Hey, come on, man, get us the info.
You have my fur, you AI work fast.
And I think that could be, that would be cool.
And also super simple, right?
Well, for like some of the podcasts, uh, from like the major podcasts that are
political as well, and they do have fact checkers there.
And I think this is
this is amazing it's such a such a great role and basically in real time you can get all the context
about that stuff uh well the only downside is that somebody would be telling you all the time
how stupid you are yep yep but guys i i actually try actually try to clone my voice a bit, especially laughing, right?
And AI still don't get it. I will play the short clip that what AI gave me.
And then we say hi to Maka.
Yeah, that's the best I got. So I don't know, man, I don't know.
That was kind of off. That was kind of off.
That was kind of off.
Makavali, super happy to have you here.
The legend himself.
What's your PFP, bro?
What the fuck is that, man?
I don't know.
What is it?
What do I have on right now?
I don't even know what I have on right now.
Let me pick up my phone.
It looks like showbiz, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a showbiz.
That's a showbiz one of one right there, brother.
That's right.
No, no, no.
That's a Clone X, man.
You know, Artifact.
The one, the only, you know.
Whenever Harlan joined the Yuga team, I had already been shopping because, like, when I saw the price of them, like, come down and, like, the collector stopped collecting.
shopping because like when I saw the price of them like come down and the like the collector
stopped collecting and there was a lot of news that happened about four to six months ago about
you know the collection not having a team anymore really being all the communities back and all
these things and like they were trying to like muster up I started putting in bids on reptiles
because that's like my favorite out of the out of the clone x collection but this one specifically i wanted for a really
long time man like ever since i seen him in the first uh video that one of the the community
members did where he showed all of the different dnas and in their realm like the demons the angels
the reptiles the humans all all of them and the robots and um i'm trying to remember what i think his name was uh and i i don't want i don't want to misquote but i'm gonna find it i'm gonna find the video
but anyways um i saw him in that video and i was like man one of these days i'm gonna get
me one just like that or whatever because i love the glasses trait and the hoodie trait and then
you know it happened so boom we're here um and i'm not ever letting go
of it this is my unless you want to give me 100 eath then i'll let go of it but other than that
we riding with this one man i know captain sold back in the day clonix for 75 yep 475 man that's
yo and that's when he was was up there that's when he was you know about four four to five k yeah but I remember uh I
remember a meta-zik having like few of them and really like making oh they had hundreds of them
bro but I'm not sure if they sold them actually so that's the that's always the tricky part
uh they had so many of them but guys it's it's crazy because I was checking the blockchain, yeah, that's the word, right?
About the Mint, and the Mint was, if I'm looking correctly, December 12, 2021, so end of 2021.
Besides the point, I remember there was a pre-sale, a small pre-sale, but the average vial went for two ETH at that time.
And I don't even think they sold them.
Oh, there were vials, right?
There were the vials.
There were the mint vials.
If you look at those, because even up to last year, people were buying those vials and minting them, still seeing if they could find a rare clone next.
Because I think there's still 200 and something left there.
And maybe the new owner will open that back up.
You never know, right?
But essentially, oh, man, I lost my damn train of thought while I was going with this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So essentially after that pre-sale, because I couldn't get in on the pre-sale and stuff like that, they did a Dutch auction for the vials.
And the average vial went between 2 and 3 ETH, but the average sat around 2 ETH.
And they sold out, bro.
I think 25% went on the pre-sale,
but literally about 15,000 NFTs went for 2 ETH apiece.
That's what gave them such a huge evaluation.
So when Nike swooped in and bought them for $300 million,
it was justified due to where the price of Ethereum was,
the amount the collection
had previously sold for and you know how they were ramping up with the ip but man i think nike bought
them also at the end of the 2021 right so just after the after the sale after the mint uh i don't
i don't really remember how soon the acquisition was. I thought it came like in April or May of that year.
I need to look that up.
I don't want to lie.
I don't want to misquote or anything.
To be very honest, that was one of the moments when I felt like, bro, we are in the future.
This is one of the most defying moments of our entire ecosystem.
moments of our entire ecosystem because basically Nike putting the stamp on digital sneakers
basically and that was insane it felt it felt like really the market at that time crypto was
very mainstream at that time we had the crypto arena coming out Forex had just won the bid in
Miami to do the arena over there you know what I'm saying we have the crypto. coming out forex had just won the bid in miami to do the arena over there
you know what i'm saying we have the crypto.com in los angeles you know like you started to really
see this forefront at that point in time where crypto was so mainstream i think it was the whole
ftx debacle and a few other like you know um what was the other one um
tara luna yeah yeah the tara luna but there's also one more that where people back from like What was the other one? Terra Luna. Yeah, yeah, Terra Luna.
But there's also one more that were back from like 2017 where people were like trying to get their –
when they got their – I'm trying to remember the name.
It doesn't matter.
Anyways, because of those big events, like it left a bad taste.
And then the conceptualization that NFTs are scams or, you know,
why would anybody pay – why did Justin Bieber pay $1.5 million for a board API club?
That, all of those things, like, kind of, like, created this cocktail
that put us in the position that we are now.
But I think that that's kind of been a blessing in disguise
because the industry, like, while NFTs may not be in the place
that we want them to and everybody's critical about floor prices
and all that stuff like the
foundation of where the industry sits right now is fundamentally stronger and better and all of
the major players who were present then are present now now have different products and are rolling
out with a more refined strategy and they're more poised better to take over this market and and you
know like you said three years ago they were building a metaverse.
God damn it, they did it.
Like, when it comes to the initialization of product rollout, like, we're in that position, that form right now.
To see how it goes, like, I just think we're in a really good position.
People may not agree.
You know, if you bought a board at 100 E's, I'm sorry.
Hold on to it, puppy.
You know what I'm saying?
We're going back up.
I saw a funny tweet. I have no idea who posted it, but it was a Grail ape saying that for the
person who offered me 1,000 ETH at one point, I really think they should send me 50 ETH right now
for saving them 950. I think that was hilarious.
I have the tweet saved here too, bro. That's funny.
But the ape is Grail, man. I love
this ape. That's such a beautiful, beautiful
ape. Oh my god. Of course,
There's a little bit
orange in that, so I'm not
100% sure if it's... No, it's Grail.
It's incredible ape. So, yeah.
What a wild time.
And who actually bought it, guys?
Like, do we know?
Because... And I don't know if I pronounced the name correctly.
Herman didn't buy it.
No, Herman.
And no Yuga.
You probably got on the phone immediately with Herman.
You're like, Herman, it's Grateful.
Tell me right now.
You come to the show to talk about...
He's like, I didn't buy it Grateful.
I'm so sorry.
And then Garga answered the bunny out of all people.
Garga's like, nope, wasn't me.
You know what I'm saying?
Zaptio, or how you pronounce his name, one of the original co-founders tweeted,
a new future awaits.
And what does it mean?
So did they buy it back, man?
No, I heard that it wasn't them either. I heard, you know, that's another thing. It's like, a new future awaits and what does it mean so did they buy it back man no i i heard that it wasn't them
either i heard you know that's another thing is like a new future awaits like that's also a very
cryptic text because yeah he's the co he's the co-founder of artifact but i don't think they
have any say in where the brand goes now by the way it was all rights to their ip by the way man
uh because i've been to a lot of conspiracies lately because I've been waiting for Stranger Things episode nine, the secret final episode.
Right. It didn't happen. And I went through like hours of footage and, you know, everything that was wrong and why the episode is.
And if you look, new future awaits mean nfa not financial advice right so i think
that's future awaits nfa yeah yeah yeah not financial advice yeah wow you listen that's
some real decoding shit right there i'm telling you man and i i haven't decoded the picture
and there's like a is there a middle finger in it? So who knows what does it mean?
Can you pin to the top so I can analyze?
Of course, of course, I'll do it.
Give me a second.
But it's really interesting to see that after them.
Basically, we saw Paji being bought.
We saw Moonbirds, right?
Being bought, Mibits.
What else, man?
Heavy metals, right?
With Adam and Gabe.
So I think it's really cool to see builders buying those projects that I would say, you know, heavy metals, they were way over like their hype phase, right?
The hype was over, they bought it, basically nothing was happening there and now they are trying to bring it to life.
I think Artifact is in a very similar position after Nike shut it down. No one expected that it's going to make it and now I want to see what's
going to happen and would be really cool to see if someone outside of Web3 bought them, right?
That would be interesting. Yeah, I think that would be the best scenario for all of us.
I think Gary Vee said that in your interview on your show when you were co-hosting Machiavelli
that it would be so funny if somebody like Disney bought somebody like, I think he mentioned Doodles,
which is probably impossible right now, but imagine that this kind of stuff happens,
that we find out that Adidas has bought it, or Puma, or I don't know.
No, bro, bro bro you're talking about
adidas man they have their own avatars and i wanted to ask anyone here like what's going on
with theirs avatars because i know i did some burning minting and they look cool and we're like
okay nike didn't make it so adidas will save us and i think adidas they can you imagine
Can you imagine?
Arias shut it down too, right?
Just quietly.
Well, there's speculation that this still
comes on the fact that they were
hit with a lawsuit
over the project
and like, I don't
know, I don't want to speak wrong about
it, but there was some type of lawsuit, whether it was class action
or not, based on the IP
infringement or something.
Because essentially, I guess they released that all, anybody who has a Clonex has rights
to the brand, has rights to the characters, their own IP, all of those things.
So because that lawsuit hit all, I think Nike was just like, you know what, we need to get
rid of this.
You know, it's tax harvest last season, you know what I'm saying?
We bought it for $300 million, sell it for $30.
You know what I'm saying? We'll it for $300 million. Sell it for $30. You know what I'm saying?
We'll be able to clear the books on that one.
I heard Span bought it.
I heard Span bought it
with ApeCoin. With ApeCoin, bro.
Listen, if ApeCoin was the
buyer, maybe
you didn't buy it. What if something like ApeCoin was the buyer, like maybe you didn't buy it.
You know what I'm saying?
What if something like ApeCoin was the buyer because they were coming into the other side and stuff?
I think that that would be huge for it.
And it would really – I mean you'd see the four price probably go a little nuts.
But I think you'd see a lot of the community that was part of CloneX Return because they knew that they had a foundation that they could stand on.
And that's what I think that that community wants because there's so many fucking base creators
yeah i think they come out of clonex yeah you are you are definitely right it was always very
strong community uh many amazing people who actually many some of them i think switch to
to uh to ape chain nfts or or both mutants and so on but I don't think I would be very happy
if Yuga bought it
to be honest
I think they're fine
with not buying
any more stuff
not ApeCoin
not the team
I'm talking about Span
he just used
ApeCoin with it
I'll give you the wallet
forensics here in a little while
stay tuned
to my TED talk
and my YouTube channel
man when I was asking
chat GPG about
the artifact the first
thing that popped up was
no one could pronounce the
and no one knew how to pronounce that
so I remember it here on Spaces I think we hosted someone and the RTFKT and no one knew how to pronounce that.
So I remember it here on Spaces.
I think we hosted someone and everyone was like,
yeah, yeah, I like RTFKT.
And there was a lot of mispronunciation.
So Artifact, that's the correct one.
And actually, ChatGPT said
that final chapter with Nike was no hype, no roadmap, just an exit.
So that's crazy.
But I'm really curious what's going to happen with them because they have 3D files ready.
So, of course, the next step should be bring them to the other side, right?
Ideally, have something like MiBits, so Metropolis.
So maybe have like Clonex Police or Artifact Police or whatever
I think that would make sense for sure, but we'll see who bought it, right?
We'll see who bought it and...
Makabali, did you actually ask Gary Vee if he's bringing the VeeFriends into the other side?
If he thinks about it?
Actually, yeah, so I did have that discussion with Gary Vee and I didn't meet with them this week and to
see so I did
The bug is in the ear the the the wheels are turning all of that stuff and we'll see what happens, you know, that's all I can say
Oh, you met you met with a team
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did in person
No, no, on a Google Meek call.
Oh, nice. Loved it, loved it. I remember during NFT NYC 2022, they had something, I think...
Tino, do you remember what was the name of that studio? They have separate channels, separate Instagram for...
It was 37, 367, something like that.
Yeah, I don't remember the name either, but the guy, they were doing just Web3 content,
right? And then they shut it down too. Oh yeah. But guys, I will share the code. The code is super
easy. It's go big. I don't see Honeybee here. Is he here? No. But if you go to op.xyz forward slash claim, go big.
That's the code.
Check the design.
Jubral did such an incredible job again.
It's absolutely insane because my idea behind this badge was enter 2026 like a boss.
So yeah, Tino doesn't smoke, but he does in this in this uh picture so let's
fucking go start claiming that guys let's see who was the oh my god not gucci dr dave ssdw jubrell
we already have first people claiming that love it the art is insane really we we talking about
past guys this design back in 2021 584 easy 584 super easy so yeah it's programmed
i also remember and that was during art basel 22 that uh who was that actually
josh onk yeah josh onk he showed me those artifact sneakers that had some auto-lacing system, right?
That you just press it and they auto-lace themselves.
So they dropped many sneakers.
I found one sneakers here too at home.
I don't know how I got them.
I don't know if you had to buy some NFT or if you just got them.
I also got a t-shirt with NFC chip.
So, oh, there was a collab also with Murakami, right?
There was one version with Murakami flowers.
So, probably no more
sneakers in the future,
but it will be interesting to see them
what they are going to do with the project.
What is your,
what are the things that you'd love to see
guys here?
Makai, you can go first if you still here
oh yeah no i'm still here i'm sorry what was the question
what are you talking about? like what would you like to see
uh for artifact right now like their direction what what you know
um you know harlan has created some cool tools that that he put out like last april and stuff
like that i'd like to see the revitalization of some of those tools, you know what I'm saying?
for the new community and then some kind of like content creation
situation that we can utilize for those,
in order to,
especially with the AI models and everything that we have that's
prevalent right now in the space.
Like it's nice to see how that,
how that direction moves,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, and more content being created.
That's what I would like to see for them.
And then, of course, see them on the other side.
I heard there's a few different versions of the 3D models that are done.
Like, there's ones that are complete.
There's like, I saw the 3D version of my model.
It doesn't have the face mask and stuff on.
It looks a little bit more plain than I like.
And I want that jaw, the jaw that belongs
on mine, to be on it. You know what I mean?
I bought it for this specific look.
I'm hoping that that kind of stuff gets
updated whenever they go to release.
It's so cool to see that
there are a few projects back in the day
that they already had their 3D avatars ready.
That ImaD gens, right?
We hosted them a long time ago.
I minted that probably also in 2021.
They also had 3D avatars, but it took till 2025.
We needed our site to actually have a place to use them, right? And I think we also
needed AI so we can create renders and more content with those. So I think the timing right
now is really good. Yeah, I think so. I think they were Chris Lee and the founders, I think they were very uh the the guy steven i think they were very uh uh kind of uh ahead of the curve i
believe at that point and uh what i would love to see the future of of artefact or or clonex
would definitely be coming back to uh to digital fashion or uh you know the the fashion tech because
that's something that i'm very unhappy that, for example,
G Money's 9DCC didn't really work out and all the other, basically all the other ones that we
hosted here, it was dozens of them basically that we hosted here who have different way of
approaching the digital fashion. Basically, none of them really made it.
And of course, for me personally,
any of a very successful,
even slightly successful case study
would mean that this is the future where it's heading
and I would definitely, definitely cheering for them.
Damn, man, that's, I was thinking about it yesterday that we've
hosted so many brands here that are gone, man. What was the name of that brand
from Italy that they were making their shoes there? The luxury sneakers, oh my god.
Rain or something with rains? Calton Rain. Oh my god, they were so high quality top notch
made in Italy and so on
it's just so hard
the industry itself
is hard when you
have a niche out of niche
niche inside of web 3
it's just basically impossible
to for a sustainable
business I don't know like
if somebody cracks it i'll be so happy go ahead macaveli you know there that that that sneaker
company that was the one doing it out of italy there's also this company called the live shoes
that you could design high quality sneakers that are made on demand in italy and i think that
that's the program they were using because i've actually been a part of a live shoes since 2019 and i was like one of their top creators and so yeah so i've been a part of
that that platform for years i've done probably over 19 different shoes that got shipped out over
that period of time and stuff i haven't really done nothing since the pandemic i did a few nft
shoes like uh showcase models that we actually ordered the prototypes for and stuff like that
but um really high quality shoes and i kind of missed the fact that something like that didn't make it where you know that kind of a service is really you know available
to people because like for you're gonna go spend a couple of hundred dollars on shoes anyway you
might as well get something that's custom made exactly the way that you like it for you you know
yeah for sure uh i think this was a different uh case because case because the founder, one of the founders, he had a background in high fashion.
So he had a really good connection to many of the high fashion brands.
And that's how he got to quite small, like minimal order quantities, which is usually basically impossible to do outside of Asia, mainly for sneakers.
But we hosted several of
them. There was another sneaker
brand from India,
if you remember Grateful. I have no idea about
the name. There was this hoodie
Seriously, it was a lot.
A lot of them.
I'm checking the
episode, but I think we hosted
Cult and Rain in March 2023.
So basically, oh, it's going to be three years already almost, right?
So damn, time flies.
It's not, you know what's the thing?
That it's still a business, right?
And I think fashion is so, so hard, you know, streetwear and everything.
It's tough to beat it, right? And no matter if it's in Web3, maybe in and everything it's very it's tough to beat it right and no
matter if it's in web3 uh maybe in web3 it's even harder so yeah uh sorry and and one thing i
experience with content because a lot of people are chasing that five million mark to get monetized
here right it's not possible to do it with Web3 content, bro. Like it's not possible unless you
posting some crazy polarizing stuff probably, but you go to sports, you go to politics. Yeah,
politics is probably the easiest, but the worst. You go to movies and you immediately get like so
many views on your post. And I'm not saying that my goal is to have views here but it's it shows that we are
still really small and tight community here which is a benefit of course but it's also
not benefit in a way that it's not that many people in our space still right so man if you
start creating content about anything else of course there's bigger competition, but you can hit like crazy, crazy things.
But man, I didn't start to be here for numbers, right?
We joined it because we love Web3,
we love NFTs, we love collecting,
we love being here with you guys,
and we believe in the future.
But it's crazy to see what you can do when you start.
You know, I see Jacopo down there,
iDraw Animation,
he became the Stranger Things expert also, man.
His tweets and comments are insane.
Just back to that note, you're definitely right.
We are such a small echo chamber still,
which is advantage and disadvantage.
It's nice also, right?
That's definitely true.
But I just wanted to say that any physical product in Web3 is hard.
It doesn't even have to be clothing.
It can be anything.
We know it.
We've seen it with all the MBA brands, basically.
So out of all the 500 or 300, 400 MBA brands, we saw it with our chocolate.
You need to go basically mainstream.
You need to go to Web2 audience. You need to go basically mainstream. You need to go to Web2 audience.
You need to go to real retailers.
That's the only way how you can make it.
Because again, niche inside a niche is very hard.
Plus, that niche is spread all over the world.
That's for a physical product.
It's basically impossible.
For a food physical product. It's basically impossible for a food
physical product, which is a chocolate, for instance, it's, it's almost impossible to make
it. It's like, you need to, if your father has a, has a chocolate factory or something, probably.
Yeah. But, uh, but, but there's one, I think great example. I'm not involved much in that
because I don't have a time, but I would love to. And I'll have to do some research on that. But Rekt drinks, I think they're absolutely killing it.
They figured out how to do it. They sold, I think, probably millions of cans already, which is wild.
But as you said, bro, like we always talk about Made by Apes that it's the best use cases for companies that already operate, right?
And then maybe you do one product that you know already works
and you use your Ape for branding
because whatever business you are building from the ground,
it's brutal.
Like you see the startup fail rates, right?
It's like to have a startup that survives it to like year two,
it's almost miracle. And
that's why I'm also bullish on apes, man, because
it's going to be year five
And that's impressive.
That's incredible. And we are not on
decline. You know, we have so many
crazy, not announcements,
you know, crazy things that will
happen, like the clubhouse in
miami you know other side has been under development for for some time and we we see the progress and
so on so it's incredible and if you look back and if you look into your wallet like how many brands
actually made it it's wild it's it's sad yeah uh yeah you're you're right i and and again this just proves the point
uh with direct brands of course there is the infrastructure that started with crypto or
with uh with web3 but they had to go uh to to the real retail to out out there and basically
most of the people who buy it out of shelves have no idea that there is
any kind of crypto involvement. And of course, it's amazing. It's a beautiful use case. I'm
really, really cheering for them. I really think it's very smart to basically make your consumers,
your basically shareholders. I think that's brilliant again clubhouse the same story you
need to go to real life from the internet uh thingy and you need to you need to get uh basically
create a very similar uh way of marketing and advertising as a soho house or any other like hotel or club or whatever, you just need to get back to Web2 in a way
and make it very cool and accessible for the Web2 audiences.
And I think this is, we've been talking about it for how many years,
four or five years already,
that this is the thing that we're still missing and it's not happening.
We all are trying our best somehow on our small
fronts but uh there needs to come somebody really big and successful as we hope we just mentioned
nike nike could have been that that thing that that made the digital fashion uh really mainstream
all of a sudden unfortunately you know uh maybe, maybe somebody... I think it might be
someone else, man, because with these huge
brands, it's so tough with them. They have
shareholders, right?
They just can't do whatever they want,
right? If you
have a smaller company and you are the CEO,
you can decide what's going to happen.
I think that's
much easier, but
we'll see.
We'll see.
We'll see.
I'm still like, it's 100% of the future.
Like we've talked about it for years here,
that future is going to be more digital than it's now.
It's 100% happening, especially with all the AI stuff.
And we've seen huge brands, man.
They are using blockchain already for authenticity, right?
So it's just going to happen probably the different way that we all expected because we are like,
and I remember it quite well that everyone celebrated Nike, Adidas, of course, entering our space.
And we thought that they're going to be our savers, but there are no shortcuts.
There are no shortcuts. And we need to build're going to be our savers, but there are no shortcuts.
There are no shortcuts.
And we need to build it from ground up.
That's what's going to happen.
And you can see it in a, in a, in a Fortnite, you know, stranger things, they drop their avatars there and we need to bring those into other side, a hundred percent.
People shouldn't know and I think other side is already in that phase that you don't even know
that you're interacting with blockchain bro like you send ApeCoin in there you send some NFT there
and you don't need your like your wallet you just send it right so yeah that's gonna be the future for sure yeah we all hope you're right uh it's uh it it must happen uh
but we just don't know the timing so so the time the timeline but uh i guess we do have time so
so it's all good and you are right uh the big brands uh that are deciding from the boardrooms
and from the excel sheets it's it's very hard for them to react uh we also
hosted many many of the big brands uh entering the space uh car brands fashion brands uh or
accessories brands uh and there were there were really many of them out of those uh 429 episodes
and uh some of them did it really well So they hired somebody from the inside or they had somebody really smart and,
and, and, and you know, some, somebody who knew the space or was,
was here since the very beginning was one of us.
And I think that that's the, that's the only way for them, but you are
definitely right that there is a space for somebody from who is basically Web3 native that can really do this and crack this.
I remember talking to people from Porsche in Miami.
And man, I think it was like, you know, NFTs were trending.
So they were like, hey, we should drop a collection without, you know, that was it probably.
And they didn't know how to do it.
They hired, you know, the guy, Don Borgo, right?
I think in many, I don't know how much he could influence the final product, right?
And then they left.
So they tried, they left.
It's going to take some time to
build it but i think you know with stuff like other side is doing and there's gonna be more
and more companies that will really have a huge impact uh outside of web 3 and i probably stopped
saying in in web 3 and outside of web 3 because i think it does it doesn't matter for the future anymore because
we really need to make services that people use no matter if it's web3 or not right like
if it's on web3 rails and no one is using it it doesn't matter that it's on web3 rails right so
yeah but i think 2026 will be very interesting, especially with the other side. We see Polymarket, which is absolutely crazy.
It's booming.
It's on crypto rails and it's used by millions of people already.
So services like that will 100% make it.
It's very hard to say how easy or possible is this for the big brands to enter,
because they know that many of the big ones were not successful.
So, you know, oh, if Nike didn't succeed or if Gucci or Adidas didn't succeed, Bugatti,
like how can I succeed if I'm a small brand and doing this?
So I think that might be a little bit of a pain.
At the same time, people see what gaming,lox fortnite etc what's happening there and and what are the
possibilities of of of being in this these digital realms so again like if if yuga does their homework
and and really brings this world to the to the mass i think we are in the right position.
We are in a perfect position.
And I also think Nike got caught in a bad situation because their sales were declining.
And I think they had different problems than just some NFT.
So they basically had to start cutting costs.
And that was also part of the problem.
So, you know, timing is also important and this was really, really wild.
AlphaDigen, anything you would love to add towards that?
You know, your avatar has Amazon box.
So how do you see 2026 and the future of NFTs, man?
Man, you called me out.
I didn't want everybody to know that I bought Amazon.
So, you know, and we're going to feature 8 Whales creations on the worldwide platform.
No, I'm just kidding, man. But this is a great opportunity.
The times are always exciting if you're a techie, if you're really here for the tech, if you're here for that kind of stuff.
It's exciting to see what comes out of the relationships that form over time.
For me, I didn't see Amazon and Boy Dave Yacht Club, but it's exciting to see where that's going.
So if you're here for that, man, you're excited.
I'm just like that little kid on the GIF that he's just like, ah, you know, shaking his hands and just like, what's next? What's next? That's me.
So I don't know, bro. I'm excited to see where it goes, see where Machiavelli takes us.
You know, maybe he'll be visiting with the guys at Porsche next week and, you know, and talking them into the other side.
into the other side and we have Porsche cars racing around in the other side who knows man
And we have Porsche cars racing around in the other side. Who knows, man?
but it's uh the sky's the limit technology is steady advancing as long as we stay keep our
heads on the swivel keep our ankles moving um and stay on the balls of our feet then i think we'll
be able to uh receive it and embrace it and keep pushing it in the right direction boy they've yacht
club forever bro i land the plane there. Bro, I read some article today
and they mentioned that they land the plane there
and I immediately saw you there.
So love that you're always landing the plane.
The collab with BMW is kind of cool
because Pauzer, he draw so many suitcases
during A-Fest and they were sold out immediately. I think
it's really dope. I think the first
collab I saw was
in Hong Kong. There was that
apes on it. It was like a projection
so that was really dope.
Either Animation mentioned in the
comments that the bear was
the Game of Thrones NFTs, man.
Oh my god. god yeah we hosted
actually game of thrones team here before the drop and uh damn the drop was really wild it didn't
work and i think like nfts or gaming assets for tv shows are incredible and it's already happening
i mentioned the stranger things man like it's% happening. So I think that makes sense.
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So that's what's going to happen.
People tweeted, you don't like ideas.
Oh, sorry, people retweeted.
That was actually someone else, but he said,
you don't like ideas, you like deadlines, guys.
ideas you like deadlines guys oh it's at people actually so it's at people and uh you know don't
Oh, it said people, actually, so it said people.
be don't be like you starting now and and quitting uh next week
and i'm bringing simple farmer here it's still spinning so let's see if we get him because that
that was something
that i wanted to talk about 100 and he just dm'd me before the show and that's awesome because we're
gonna be talking also about what clutch markets is cooking simple farmer how you doing man welcome
here oh my god that escalated quickly.
I think de-escalated.
That de-escalated quickly.
Simple Farmer, try to unmute, try to maybe step down, come back if it works.
Or send a puppy here on stage with AI agent or something.
Yeah, yeah, clutch puppy.
It's crazy what's happening with Twitter, man,
because when I actually start spaces, I cannot edit them. Whenever I click edit, the app crashes. So I'm always nervous to set the record when I'm starting the space, because if I don't do it, it's not going to be recorded. So Simple Farmer, we're going to try one more time before we sing a song.
And I don't know if you want to hear it. You should repeat the code.
Yeah guys, the code is
GO BIG. G-O-B-I-G.
That's so simple guys.
Okay, Simple Farmers coming back
because this is also exciting. I think
they bought, they just got first BAYC.
So can't wait to learn more. Simple Farmer, welcome here. Can you hear us?
GM GM, we got you. That's awesome, man. How are you doing today?
Doing good, Serge. Want to check in and see if you've been able to vibe code yourself a girlfriend yet?
Oh my god, I tried!
It just drained my credit card, I don't know why man, because I was like, I gave
all the preferences for the girlfriend and it was like, okay, give me your credit card number and
all the money were gone man, so I don't know what happened there it's crazy just before we we
let simple farmer talk i had a really crazy thing happened to me because uh i got my credit card
blocked on uh december 24th and it was crazy because i used that i i never used that credit
card at all i used it only twice in in Vegas for the hotel deposit and once again.
And it was not a strip club.
It was just a normal restaurant.
And I must have got scammed, you know, like somebody must have copied it or whatever.
And they started Christmas shopping.
So they went crazy since December 24th.
And even after the card was blocked there it was like a 1600 USD
what yeah and and the bank wants me to pay it now because they're like oh yeah but you we blocked those
two payments but uh the other you must have made but i hope i'm getting it back but it's really
crazy yeah he was on shopping spree in Vegas. He was buying the underwear,
like tongs and stuff.
They caught him.
Bro, I didn't buy anything.
It was like a golf.
Tino, the credit card company
is not in the space with us.
If there's a couple charges in there from the strip club,
it's okay. We won't let anybody know.
I'm trying to ask Grateful.
I'm putting him on the spot now. What did you do with my wallet when you asked for it back then
oh god i love this man i love this um yeah tino tino wanted me to dm his his wife and be like
yeah tino really lost his credit card and then i have all the proof in my in my phone library
uh it's basically like hangover movie at the end.
So that's Tino, man.
There is an NFC chip in
between the butt cheeks sometimes.
So if you do swipe your card there, it doesn't make it.
He was swiping, bro. Those were huge
butt cheeks, trust me, man. I've never seen
bigger than that. And Tino was like
so happy, man.
He's showing the proof to his wife that
he had, you know, he's showing her through to his wife that he had you know he's showing her
through the through the phone through the photos then he accidentally starts showing some stuff
he's not supposed to show her like wait a minute i'm sorry oh no what what is this what is this
and he was like that's grateful and it was even worse this was not me it was not me it's grateful
yeah blame it i'm grateful always always yeah. The worst part of all these conversations,
I love them.
I love to laugh at them.
The worst part is the AI can be using them in the future
and, you know, considering them reality.
So I really love that.
Let's continue about that.
But anyway, simple farmer.
Bro, bro, bro, bro.
I have idea.
It's like playing poker, bro.
Like if you cannot keep face straight,
like Tebow,
when you bluffing,
you need to do a lot of crazy stuff with your face all the time.
So no one knows what's going on with you.
So that's what we do in here with our words.
Like no one knows if it's real or not real or what's going on.
I thought he was going to say the worst part was that his wife is standing over his shoulder listening.
Yeah. But my shoulder, bro, that's even worse.
You wish, bro.
Yeah, regarding Poker Face, look at my A, bro.
You don't know if he's smiling or if he's angry.
So, you know, that's me for sure.
But anyways, back to Simple Farmer.
I really love what you are doing, man.
Tell us something about your latest thing
and how you involve BAYC and everything like that
because I think it's really innovative
and we would love to hear about that.
Sound like he's a sinful farmer.
I always hear that he's doing uh uh perv decks so yeah well
yeah and you know it's important because if you compare let's let's compare like crypto to the
world economy right the number one thing that makes the most money in the world economy people
who get the richest right are the countries the countries, the people who have oil, right?
Oil is like this huge percentage of the world economy.
With crypto, the equivalent of oil is Perpstexes.
So I thought, as both the founder of Clutch and a member of Apeco,
where one of our jobs is to improve the value of the Bored API Club,
is that the Bored API Club should have a DeFi revenue engine,
and there is no better DeFi revenue engine than a Perpstex.
And it's a fully loaded Perpstex.
It's not live yet, so I'm just starting to tease
what it looks like, how it works.
This treasury is going to be a transparent treasury
that you'll be able to see on the page.
All the Board Apes that get bought from the fees
get vaulted for a period of five years.
So they're getting completely removed
from circulation for five years.
After that, it's not like they're gonna be sold
after five years.
It's like non-decided what happens after that period.
But for five years, they're locked in a smart contract.
Now, this plan, if, say, Clutch can capture, let's say, 0.5% or 0.25% of all perps trading volume in the world, that would amount to roughly $30 million in buy pressure on the board API club collection.
And so that's why I just want people to understand and not underestimate that even if you're not a perps trader, this is where the money is. It's simply the biggest stake. It's the Clutch Perps platform is help me market the platform.
Or if you already trade perps anyways, trade them here.
And in exchange, what you'll get is value accrual and buy pressure on your NFT collection.
And I think that's a good deal both ways.
So, yeah, super excited to go live with this.
Going to keep working on marketing, getting the word out.
But like I said, this goes just as far as essentially the community
and everybody can push and market it.
I'll do everything I can.
On my side, internally, we have the full support of Arbitrum One,
of course, Apeco, hopefully, right?
But yeah, we're going to make a strong push here.
It is built on the same liquidity infrastructure as Radium Perp,
so we can support massive size. It's a fully chain agnostic platform so it's not isolated in any way to ape
chain it works the way hyperliquid does now you deposit it would draw funds there is a referral
program the ui ux is clean you can even long and short like gold and silver as well as some stocks
on the platform so it's fully loaded guys. We've got an engine.
Now it's just like a question of how well we make it run.
I love that man.
And I think to increase the usage whenever you drop it,
I think it would be really cool if you could tell us like,
hey guys, long Bitcoin right now, right now.
You're going to make profit then short Bitcoin right now, right now.
Do it, do it, do it.
So we can do more volume and help you with with those numbers bro and I know you have a secret group for oh
shit I know yeah Tino's wife Tino's wife he DM me and yeah he's kneeling right now we'll try to get
him back we try to get him back he just dropped to get him back. He just dropped down. But that would be a cool feature. But can you tell us a little bit more, man, about when you're expecting to launch it?
And maybe what's the difference compared to Hyperliquid?
Yeah, so getting ready to launch and go live in about two weeks.
The biggest ever sent Hyperliquid is the the is the automated fee accrual that is
like an nft treasury strategy now one thing that's unique and that you can see a preview of it on this
picture here that i posted and if everybody can retweet that clutch post it's highly appreciated
yes thank you f2 the the the key difference is that with like nft strategy tokens first thing
is they buy an nft and then they
relist it for a 20 markup that creates a bit of a sell wall at a 20 increase the second big
difference is so this platform doesn't relist it for sale at all the second big difference is nft
strategy uses the standard bot to trigger a contract to buy the floor nft this is actually
going to be using an ai agent and it's the same ai agent that
i use for clutch to decide who wins and loses bets to decide which board api club is the best
which board api club nft is the best deal so it's not necessarily always going to buy the floor one
oftentimes obviously it will if it determines that one is the best deal but sometimes there
could be an nft that's you know 0.2 eth or or 0.5 ETH more expensive. And if the AI, if the LLM decides it is of a higher value and
better for our clutch gallery, which is going to be the gallery of all the NFTs, of all the
Board API Club NFTs we buy that are vaulted, then it'll buy that one. So there's an additional layer
of lore and strategy there. And also, of course, we're still showing like the accrual when will the ai agent have enough to buy the board ape and will it buy the first
board ape it sees or will it wait that's up to actually the ai agent and the reasoning so when
it's thinking about what does it want to buy or does it not want to that reasoning will be visible
and transparent on the ui ux the UI UX of the platform there,
which you can see a preview of.
So there's a lot of interesting features there.
In terms of what you can long and short,
every good token you can think of,
and we're always going to be adding more,
in terms of what type of perpstex it is,
it is an order book-based perpstex,
so that is just like Hyperliquid.
But I think the flow
the the platform itself is very intuitive it's it's made for both beginners and professional
level traders and also within two weeks of the activation what i'm working on right now
is a community-based perps vault where for example you, you could come through Grateful and you connect
your Ethos account and you can open up a vault. And then community members can come through and
deposit tokens into your vault. And then you have one week from every Sunday, essentially,
to trade perps with those tokens on Clutch. And then what you're supposed to do is put back,
of course, the profits that you make and that gets shared based on how much people put in the pool.
Now, this is, of course, risky.
I don't think this is for everybody.
Definitely not if you're a big beginner in perps.
You don't want to come and blow people's money.
Your ethos score goes to shit.
But for people who are experienced traders who want to offer some other people maybe additional exposure to perps and they can trade in a safe way, it becomes another really interesting strategy. So you can bet on Simple or PPman or Grateful if you think they're really good traders.
Yeah, go for PPman guys. I'm not sure if you should go for me because yeah, I'm good in Ape Church in gambling,
but I'm not sure if I'm good in perps, but we'll see. We'll see.
I'll definitely try it, man.
I also see in the screenshot that there's already one BAYC.
So did you already get one or?
So this is the first one that the LLM is targeting.
So this is the one that's nearest to the floor.
And so the platform isn't live yet.
So once the platform is live
you'll start seeing that amount of ETH that's in there in that treasury increase
every single time somebody opens a purpose trade
that's dope bro that's dope can't wait maybe um i also wanted to talk about exodus rising and
that's of course like ape coin and apechain activation. Will there be any other activation with launch of the Perp with your platform?
Do you mean similar to Exodus Rising?
Similar maybe to Banter.
Yeah, so I think we're always looking to improve and I think we learned a lot from Banter.
We learned some things that could be better. We learned a lot lot from banter. We learned some things that could be better.
We learned a lot from wallchain.
We learned some things that could be better.
I think the end game is us having our own sort of platform
where we can host all these activities,
have a higher level of control and oversight
over the way the rank list goes.
It's been nice to work with third parties.
Like I said, they've been nice placeholders,
but I still think we're going to be improving.
But also kind of trying out these different InfoFi platforms.
Believe it or not, you as community members are actively farming future airdrops.
So Banter is going to have a token.
Wallchain is going to have a token.
So you're participating in Apechain activation, but we're really spoon feeding you airdrop allocations as well.
And bro, yesterday, I think you mentioned that uh we are
part of and what was that it it wasn't shine it was different pronounci- it was a sheena right
uh or sheen or how you pronounce that uh we yeah I think it's sheen-e. Where are they from man why
such a crazy pronunciation? I don't know. This is the way they pronounce it.
It's Incentive is the name. It's an L1 blockchain where every action is on chain.
I would say most similar to Somnia.
Oh, it's similar to Somnia. Okay.
So is that also L1?
yes indeed
Yes, indeed.
okay guys it seems that
2026 is gonna be
a year of new L1s
and L2s probably
and L3s maybe too
great that we are part of that
because if you are a holder of Bored Apes
all the Yuga Labs
ecosystem NFTs probably
you are part of that so that's really cool
and nice because we need some steamies.
We've been waiting for OpenSea for ages.
So guys, if you have
OpenSea badge...
Where's Steve? Where is Steve?
If you have OpenSea badge, guys, give us some
alpha. Like Q1, I know
we just started it, but it
really should happen, right? So please.
Please. We don't want to wait
until 2027.
Also, Simple Farmer, how do you like the exodus rising so far uh how is it going yeah so i'm a big nerd i mean i'm my team is
manchester united uh we're a great team we have some scrubs but it's okay you know jimmy butler
will take the worst player then we'll still win i. I'm just kidding. I have agent on my team
and we're killing it.
We added one guy, Pete,
but we should have had him take some tests
before we had him join the team
because he was just missing some easy ones.
Oh my God.
What's his name?
Speed Pete.
Okay, I wanted to say something crazy
but I'm not gonna say it
He has to have orange background bro
He just has a regular picture of like a regular chimpanzee
Oh my god, it's a red flag bro
Yeah, baby, I'm just kidding, Pete is a clutch community member, he's a good guy
Oh my god, we roasted him
One of my favorite things is that this is
i guess what you can see is that what we forced here specifically kp and ryan who developed this
game is we're you've kind of forced people to communicate with each other in groups externally
just to complete an activation so i think that tells us that this can now be a bigger piece
of a larger process of future puzzle or quiz level games.
And also there's obviously an element of VRNG in there
in regards to what numbers you have to put your settings to.
But yeah, I think it's gonna be an evolving process.
The Ape Chain product team is a young team.
It's only three to four months old.
And so this is just the start of what I think
we'll be able to build long term.
But I think it's already
like a solid start
because it's interesting stuff.
And I think the next meta,
the whole 2026,
is going to be people
launching and testing
a whole bunch of different products.
And it's going to be way better
than, you know,
like the Neemcoin era,
in my opinion, at least.
So looking forward to that,
and I hope everybody's enjoying it, because I am as well.
Man, we have our own group chat.
Of course, you can communicate within an app too,
and somehow we are on 25th spot,
which is absolutely not acceptable,
or how to call it.
It's absolutely terrible.
It's insane.
I don't know who actually is the worst player. don't know if i can figure it out um but man what's going on there
well it's crazy when you can't cheat it's really hard to win isn't it great
oh oh yeah i could but i didn't uh but man it it's fun part because every night
we are i think we are in a similar time zones.
We chat about what to do.
That's really great about it.
The collaboration between four of us and it's only four of us, which also makes it easier.
I think that's also a great number.
And it's not a campaign for a month. So we know, I think it ends on Sunday or Friday or tomorrow maybe, right?
Holy shit. That's not good at all
that's a good question
you know or you don't know
or you don't want to say
no no I actually don't know this time
okay I think it ends tomorrow
but I'm not sure
I think it was the 9th
but I'm not sure
so we don't have much time to actually climb the ladder.
And it's fun, I really enjoy it.
I think doing some kind of quests in a group for other side would be absolutely insane.
I would love to see that. I hope it's gonna happen too.
And this is fun. AlphaDigenian are you playing too man do you have
your team uh no i'm not bro i didn't i didn't get the honor of getting drafted i'm on the scrub i'm
i'm coming off the bench i'm the water boy
yeah okay but you know even water boys are are really important and are part of the team. So, yeah, good luck, AlphaDegion.
Yeah, are you like that kid, man, when they are picking up the team
and you are the last one and they don't pick you, bro?
Like, I don't understand it because in Vegas, you were the CEO of Ape Games.
It was crazy.
Everyone worked for you there.
Maybe that's why they didn't pick you.
It was a fake.
That was because there was no athletics involved.
They said, you go outside and go run the door.
You know, kind of help the crowd.
This athletic stuff, we're going to leave that to somebody else.
So, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, right?
Love it, man.
I love it.
Simple Farmer, I would also love to ask you, about a 2026 ape coin ape chain what you guys if there's anything else that you can share with us
i know there are many areas that you are focusing on uh one of them is price up we'll see because i
think the the last unlock is in, right? So staking ended.
That's good.
Now we have the end of unlocks.
And then we fly.
We have other side that's evolving all the time.
Also, I see Nana, our main sponsor.
He's been sponsoring us since day one, guys.
And I want to talk a little bit about other side
because I talked to ChatGPT and I did research
with all the milestones that happened since the mint.
It's absolutely crazy what all happened since 2022.
And I wanted to share that, guys.
You should go to openpage, op.xyz forward slash claim, get your badge, go big.
That's the code.
And also check the mintables, because there are some crazy avatars one of them dr dave
coin he has his hero doggo avatar made by rita which is absolutely incredible and then you have
like will ferret which is 100 100 will ferrell from a semi-pro movie which is absolutely
legendary we have guccieto which is Guchita. We have John Pork.
Yeah, I don't know why I actually use my body in that avatar,
but yeah, it is what it is.
We have Andy Warslop.
We have a BriBriBicusDicusBombicus.
I don't know.
That's a crazy name.
We have SloppyRobbie and so on.
It's not crazy name. We have Sloppy Robbie and so on.
It's not that crazy, you know? I know it's from Gladiator, man, I understand it, but the Dicus Bicus, man, it's crazy.
I'll explain this to you, bro.
Okay, go ahead.
You have no idea. No, but it's one of the brain rods.
It's a brain rod name.
I know many of them, bro.
You know brain rods, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is one of those.
Now I got it.
Now I got it.
So, guys, go there, check the avatars.
I don't know if they're already available for the other side.
I'm not 100% sure if they are coming because today is Thursday. That means new avatars already available for the other side i'm not 100 sure of if they are coming
because today is thursday that means new avatars are coming to to the other side let me quickly
also check james because james the godfather he usually share them in the tweet
okay i'm just loading up a page and I don't see any tweets there probably.
So let's see which avatars are coming today.
It's always exciting to see the new communities.
And also I think other games are happening on Saturday.
So guys, definitely see you there.
But Simple Farmer,
I don't know if I cut you off with the with the goal man i i asked
questions and i i then i started talking so can you share up share share with us some some goals
that you guys have and and maybe even your personal goals i would love to know whatever
you want to share right but uh what goals you have because i think it can also inspire many
people here we always talk about it that uh because we see other shows going, we see other people
going, it also motivates us
to go. So yeah, whatever you
want to share and can share, man, we would
really appreciate it.
a lot of stuff I'm going to tell you is not something that's like a big
secret. It's tweeted by Garga, but
the big heavy play, a lot of the bandwidth is going towards other side.
As other side gets these additional features, I'm going to hit the gas too on the onboarding funnel.
But in the meantime, in Q1, so over the next 60 days, you'll already see several activations on other side,
just like the Arbornaut was, with really, really, really strong, huge partners, which I think is going to be an awesome onboarding funnel for other side of like the Arbornaut was with really really really strong huge partners
which I think is going to be an awesome onboarding funnel for other side of an ape chain
because obviously every other side avatar is an ape chain NFT too so that is one of my core
focuses what I'm working on um obviously BAYC value accrual both clutch perps and airdrops
where we can get them and yeah just going to continue developing moving the chain
into having all of the proper fundamentals including the proper stable coin uh focusing
on usdc moving away from ap usd so if you haven't already swap out of ap usd to usdc on ape chain
and just improving the chain you know simple steps i think a lot was a lot of what we were missing
in the past.
And so now we're going to have all of the fundamentals of a great blockchain.
Man, I'm really excited about the collapse for the other side.
And I love what you said that, of course, we need to wait
to have more use cases for the other side before you got turns the marketing on.
I heard a lot of people complaining, like, there's no marketing.
I was like, man, we still have time to market.
You don't want to waste your money to bring people.
And you need, I think, as many killer apps as possible.
So people get in and they're locked in and they keep using it and they keep playing.
So I'm going to the other side every day.
That's my ritual.
I wake up, I go to the other side.
I play ape church.
So my ritual and routine in the morning
is totally different than Tino's
because he wakes up, go to cold plunge,
meditate, journal, run marathon, bike, etc.
No, I go, I gamble, I go to the other side,
I buy NFTs.
But it's beautiful. I love it every day.
But I'm kind of like, hey, I need a little bit more to do right now.
I've seen everything here, give me something more.
And I know MiBits, they have their activations there, which is great.
And it would be cool to see Artifact joining the other side
and doing some activations there.
Let's see who bought them, and it's going to be a banger. Yeah.
Well, yeah, heavy metal up 41% on the day to deflationary tokenomics.
Love to see it.
Oh, and they are also coming to the other side, right?
Do we know if they have their own something like metropolis, their own?
I don't even know how to call it, like they own deed or something like metropolis uh their own i don't even know how to call it like their own deed or
something like that i know heavy metals team is deeply invested in building out great experiences
for the community and they don't spare any expenses when it comes to doing so
so i think anything that's possible for them to have is not out of the question
that's great because the art of heavy metals is insane, man.
I love it.
I love the art.
And having them in the other side, that's great.
And Adam, he's like a Web3 Jesus, or I don't know how to call it.
What if he bought an artifact?
Bro, I was...
Yeah, I know.
I think it's not out of the table.
It's awfully quiet, but the one thing I would say is that
Adam loves to make announcements
so I feel like he would have announced it by now
maybe he changed in
2026 and maybe
you know what maybe it's like that
episode 9 of Stranger Things
maybe he's gotta be waiting
dude you totally ruined it
I was on the season finale
episode of Stranger Things and you ruined it for was on the season finale episode of
Stranger Things and you ruined it for me on our last space
oh you didn't see
the whole thing
so I spoiled it
it's so bad I didn't mean it man
it was fucked bro
and what did I say actually I don't even know
no I'm not gonna say that yeah let's not do that spoiler alert It was fucked bro. And what did I say actually? I don't even know
Yeah, I said it have you guys seen the art for Evo 2's
Yeah, I saw that man. It's great. It's great. And I bridged all of them to Ape Chain. It looks insane.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah. That's the way. Oh my god.
I didn't know that, man, they released the episode like nine days ago.
I expected that everyone saw it already.
So, sorry. Sorry for ruining it for everyone about it.
Yeah. Grateful, can you explain this tweet that I just pinned up top? uh ruining it for everyone about it yeah
grateful can you explain this tweet that i just pinned up
you want to tell us something grateful oh my god oh my MFs. Guys, by the way, Elon said that there might be some lawsuits
if you use this bikini trend. And you know what's funny? That I gained on one tweet,
I gained almost a million views. And I kind of used this trend, but I didn't put bikini
because I respect women and men and everyone
so I was like quite opposite
I was like put the clothes on her
because the girls you know that I commented
they were always like almost naked I was like no
winter coat
put a raincoat
bro it worked also
so I got like
I got 3.5 million views or impressions in like a week.
Yeah, from commenting.
I'm not doing it anymore and it's still coming,
but I see a lot of people grinding those
because if you've been in Web3 and if you were active here,
the first unlock can be a few thousand dollars for you
because it goes like a retrospect, right?
So if you unlock 5 million impressions,
it gives you like everything before.
I think it started in 2022, so it's not bad.
And I support everyone who's grinding those.
I know some people were complaining,
but whenever I see someone like,
hey, I'm chasing those 5 mil,
I'm always supportive because, you know,
maybe with those money,
you can buy a subscription with those money you can buy
a subscription for X you can buy some
AI tool that will help you create I don't know
I see it like a revenue
stream and whenever I see someone commenting
I'm like hell yeah reach that
5 million MFR I will support you I know
Frosties is doing that
many people are trying to reach it and
I wish you guys the best.
Like, do it.
Like, reach it.
I will support you.
Why not, right?
Free money.
It's a money that, man, I think they even increase the price for the subscription plus.
So if you have your ad like me, GratefulApe, the custom one, I have to pay probably forever to keep that.
I have to pay for subscription plus. and I think they increase the price. I think it's like
$700 a year or some shit like that. Can you imagine paying for social media
$700 a year? It's crazy. Yeah. It's so crazy that Simple Farmer dropped. Yeah, bro, but that's the answer. Elon is the richest man on earth. Thanks to you, bro.
Yeah, yeah. He knows. He knows. Yeah, but I'll keep paying for that.
Guys, I would love to also touch the other side topic because I've been doing some research and I want to get into it it's really
interesting and let me open the
chat GPT because I've been talking to chat GPT
for half of the day
today probably
and it's wild
I know that other space
I think just after the
was it after the first trip or was it after the mint?
But they never missed the episode after that.
And let me quickly...
It was after the first trip, if I'm correct.
After the first trip.
And Tito, were you actually on the call with us?
Did you mint other side?
Yeah, yeah.
No, I did.
you remember my EAT was stuck
in Metamask or something like that I don't remember
anymore you were a newbie
you didn't know how to mint bro
no I got a PTSD from that
from that night
I was not a newbie at that moment bro
you couldn't mint bro
yeah I couldn't
you needed to boost your ETH a little bit,
but I cannot find...
Yeah, but I bought the next day for like five ETHs,
so I'm all good, man.
You're good, you're good, you're good.
But it's absolutely crazy if you check the timeline
that I wanted to ask Simple Farmer about one thing, guys.
And JGPD always told me, I tried to ask him like 100 times,
and he said that ApeCoin DAO voted on other side land sale.
And do you think it was true or not?
I don't remember that we were voting for land sale for 305 ApeCoin.
AlphaDigen, do you remember? Or anyone here, guys?
Let us know in the comments, because I don't remember that.
305 ETH or 305 ApeCoin?
ApeCoin, it was 305 ApeCoin. But I don't remember ApeCoin DAO actually voting on that.
No, I don't either. And you were voting for everything, bro. You were like the best voter.
Oh, 100%. I see Guchita, he has also one of the newest avatars in the open page. So guys, definitely check it out. Those avatars are insane. And okay, so let's get into it. We got a land sale on April 2022. It was absolutely wild night. We actually did a space after dead in the morning i think it was like 6 a.m because
it delayed a bit and we got a first trip july 2022 and there were there were almost 5 000 people
i think and if you go to yugelops youtube you can see the first videos and it was incredible
like we were all so excited and that showed me that like if
they keep building which they did which is awesome uh we can build really dope stuff we can build
and that was basically damn three and a half years ago oh my god time flies then we got light paper
we got second trip march 2023 and we had over 7,000
players. Concurrent
players at the same time. And I think
I remember that was the one when Brysend
was one of the
team captains and we had a captain there, right?
Probably. And
was that when
we got the winged helmet?
I think so. I think it was
the second trip. Then we got... That was helmet? I think so. I think it was the second trip.
Yeah, I think so.
That was so much fun, man.
Did you win?
I have no idea.
Yeah, I was in the winning team.
I have no idea how.
Incredible.
I'm so happy I have that.
That's wild, man.
Then we got Legends of the Mara.
That's April 2023.
And, you know, it's 2023 bro like
like it's absolutely wild uh then we got a then we got a guinness world record uh we got um
i think that was uh yeah that was february 2025 which is like a year ago so many things has
happened uh and you got kept going and i think that's the bullish news for all of us that
they never
stop bro and I really appreciate
it I really enjoyed it and I can't wait
for 2026 like
what it's going to bring it's gonna be
absolutely wild
I'm not there every single day
as most of you guys are but
to be honest,
come there after a few days or a week or something like that.
And to see already the user experience improvements, I think that's very cool.
I don't think you see it when you are there daily and just the small tweaks.
But for me, just the map is such a big deal because i always got so lost and and it's it's
really nice it's uh really well done uh i think very explanatory for people being there for the
very first time for non-gamers like me i think i think it's on the very right track so i i hope it's
uh it continues in this direction and guys we should get some updates every two weeks.
I think we are about to get new updates very soon.
So I cannot wait to see what it's going to be.
We got a Kodakam, so if you haven't tried it, 100% try it.
You can mint your photos, which is also cool.
And somehow I learned the map.
So now I know I remember where things are, and I can just go around, which is really cool.
And yeah, man, I just need more things to do.
I really hope Bathroom Blitz is coming back,
Outbreak is coming back.
You know, we hosted Marcel here.
We talked about what he's building there.
So that would be really cool to have more things to do there.
But it's going to be crazy.
OpenPage, they've been cooking.
If you go there, guys, definitely claim the badge, but it's gonna be crazy. OpenPage, they've been cooking. If you go there,
guys, definitely claim the badge,
but also check the mintables. They have so many things. Everyday,
new stuff that you can mint.
I feel like with
OP Pass, most of the stuff you
get for free, which is absolutely insane.
Let me check this one.
Yeah, this one is not
for free, but the avatars somehow I got for free.
I don't know how is that possible.
Especially Will Ferret, that's my most favorite one.
So check it out.
Avatars are the alpha.
We mentioned the hero, the dogo.
If you are planning to bring avatar into the other side, hit us up.
Because I love trying different avatars there.
And yeah, man, it's crazy what's happening there.
So can you tell me because I was trying I got a little lost in the OP, how do I find all the
mintables and can you tell us, can you guide us through because I guess there are some more people
in the audience who don't really know what you are talking about.
Go to shop.
If you click on shop in the top menu,
you will see featured mintables.
That's how I do it.
So you can basically buy and collect sets also.
Like if you click on the set,
you can collect all the things in the set.
So I already also collected a few sets, but if you want to mintables, that's how I do
I click view all and then you can organize by newest.
That's how I do it.
So you organize it by newest and you have a Rocco Rochelty Sloppy Robby and you have
all the avatars.
They are basically the newest drop there.
So I got all of them and I cannot wait to actually use them in the other side.
You have a lot of shorts, t-shirts, sneakers, brain rod by other supply, and so on.
So it's really cool to see that.
I think OP Pass holders, they have some benefits that you get,
you get discount and you get a lot of avatars for free,
which is dope.
Guchito, for example, I got for free.
So man, it's dope.
Yeah, Directive Creator definitely killed those men.
I think we've been big fans of OpenPage, and I think that the badges are already proving
that you can give back to your audience,
to your supporters, to your community.
And I really like that.
And this is another layer of it, I guess.
And I'm so happy that the guys are killing it.
I have one more topic that I wanted to share and talk about.
And that's AI again.
But I wanted to ask you guys, and we have AlphaDigen here,
and of course, Tino. I wanted to ask you guys, and we have AlphaDigen here, and of course, Tino,
I wanted to ask you how you actually use AI.
What's the best use case that you would recommend everyone in 2026?
Because it's really insane, especially with stuff that I want to create around my ape.
I actually uploaded a picture of my illustration that I got a few years ago, and I was like,
hey, I want to keep this style, recreate a style, but change the scene, right? And it's insane,
man. I shared a prompt. Suddenly people started using that prompt. They started sharing their final versions with me. And there's a
ship called J-Doo. It's part of the story. And suddenly people showing me their apes with my
ship. And I think that's awesome. If you can create prompts for people to recreate scenes
with their apes, I think that's another alpha here. Like, I would love to see that again.
Do you remember, Tino, that when we were retweeting
those prompts and, you know, like create a plushie
and stuff like that, I think this is great use of AI.
But I love creating images,
but I know you definitely use it more.
So if you want to share what's like the killer use case
for you with AI, go ahead, man.
Yeah, those prompts were fun.
I did two that went pretty viral.
One was the plush that was huge in a few days.
You would see it all over the timeline.
And the second one, oh, it was a Lego one, Lego.
So maybe I should get back to crafting the prompts because it takes some time and
testing that all the other people will get the very similar results. And I'll definitely
do that in the near future. But for me, everyday use case, I mostly use Chat use chat gpt but i've been pretty uh unhappy uh with it lately with 5.2
i don't know what happened uh or what's happening if it's some kind of my setting but uh for some
of the stuff that i used to be getting like really good results uh for a deep research and so on. I'm not anymore.
I started using it a little bit more for more like a strategic work in terms of marketing
and some of the expansion and some of the stuff that we are planning.
In most cases, it works really well if you know what you want out of it. So I think the prompting is a very good skill to have, of course.
And if you understand just the way of how to ask the right questions,
I think you've got very good answers.
What gets quite confusing to me are these different modes,
you know, like, of of course the deep research,
but then you have some kind of learning or teaching mode,
and then you have another and so on.
So for me, it's always the least options I have, the better.
So I usually put it on auto and as I said,
use it a lot right now for the preparation.
So I ask it for like deep research on the topic.
So it goes through, I don't know, for instance, like relevant, I don't know, influencers or retailers and so on in a specific country or whatever I'm working on. And I think this is very cool
because before you would need to get an intern
or somebody to work for it for a few weeks.
And even if the answer is not 100%,
it's just perfect because it takes minutes.
You can go through, you can give it a shit,
like, oh, bro, what the fuck are you talking about
that's terrible
or the other way around
I think the feedback loop is always very important
but we are also
playing with it quite a lot
with video
for our brand
videos, some animations
photos as we already mentioned already.
We test a lot or try a lot of stuff with Hicksfield.
I think it's not the cheapest one, but it's insane.
Some of the pre-created templates and stuff that you can create
very quickly.
It's just insane.
And as you said,
I've been working with artists,
designers, illustrators
for 20 years, whatever.
And for some things,
I will keep working
with some of the people who are very specialized in one field.
But at the same time, for some of the stuff that has 24-hour attention span on social media, there is no need to spend to spend uh hundreds or thousands of uh euros anymore because uh you
just created you just tested even uh you i mean it's so it's so crazy how also how early we are
and how better it gets i think that's that's completely insane. So that's just from my part, yeah. It's insane, guys.
It's absolutely crazy.
You know, you just talked to ChetGP and it's like, it's so crazy.
Like, it wasn't possible even like six months ago what you can get out of it.
So 100%, guys, check AI.
Like, you can't be like those MFs in 2021, like they were fading NFTs.
Like, don't fade AI 100%.
I want to shout out here a few people in the audience
or maybe a lot of people in the audience.
By the way,
I saw Aquamarine background ape.
I don't know when he got it
or I don't know for how long he's had that ape,
but it's absolutely crazy
zombie ape with a
most beautiful background here. We of course
see Law, Ape Whale,
Akim, who else?
not Showbiz, not
AlphaDigen, not Dr. DaveCoin.
don't roast me here, but it's such a beautiful ape, guys.
Oh, I see Jubrel, I see but it's such a beautiful ape, guys.
Bro, I see Jubrel, I see Badriles, JCS Snag, the legend, Bucked Up, so many other people,
the aspiring nobody, the G's in the house, of course, Puma.
Vigas, Marton Tripple, the best basketball player in Web3, and maybe even outside, but
Yeah, guys, guys we can of course
Ape Spit, Squillian
we got chimps here, Matoshi
yeah of course man, that MF3
is in my team, why are we
fucking so bad in the
temp, is it your fault
or my fault or who messed up
you know I don't know but we should win
we should win, of course
Vegas, Otis, Legends, VSV,
and Akim, of course, bro, that's insane.
When I flew to Hong Kong for ApeFest,
I don't know, I probably flew to Frankfurt, I'm not 100% sure,
I don't remember, it's like 2023, it's 25 years ago,
but I was sitting in plane and Akim was just boarding.
So, man, we met on the way to Hong Kong, which is absolutely wild.
Which is absolutely wild.
In your private jet?
Yeah, in the private jet, bro.
It was private jet as hell, man.
I think it was Lufthansa private jet, but I'm not sure.
Of course, Sivo, the legend, Law i'm not sure of course civo uh the legend law of the
saw of course i mentioned we also have a chespe yeah that mfr uh i met him in in vegas uh chespe
that mfr is here too abel of course and so on and so on guys we love you thank you so much for the
support cool chick i see cool chicks cool chick cheeks amazing mutant nana right the sponsor we mentioned that nana thank you so much for that gt3
rs it's incredible uh it's so beautiful i'm like that meme that that is going to to wash his car
uh only the car is not there so thank you so much yeah the invisible one. Yeah, the invisible one. I got that one too, man. Thank you, Nana.
Thank you, Nana, for sponsorship deals.
We have Otter here.
What a great Otter.
I love Otters.
Whenever I swim, I swim like Otter.
So yeah, you could see me in Vegas,
in Venice District or how you call that,
you know, in the fountain.
I was swimming like Otter there.
So that's it, yeah.
AlphaDGN, do you want to share any
you know any alpha how you use ai well and i then i will share mine because that's absolutely nuts
you know uh yeah no bro i just uh i vibe code so ai i like it there's a couple other things that
yeah so i mean i'm a yeah i'm I'm, I'm a lane, you know,
I like making applications and stuff.
I think AI,
if we can harness the power of AI and incorporate it into what we do and make these technologies,
interwoven into,
or interweave the AI into our other technology and NFT worlds and stuff,
bro, sky's the limit, man.
We're here. I'm here for it. So that's my contribution to the AI industry is I'm a user.
I'm a super fan. I'm a techie. I'm a geek. That's me. So yeah, that's my contribution to it, bro.
Damn. I love to hear that you vibe coding. I want to get into it too. Especially for spaces, I think there is a lot of room.
So guys, if anyone want to try projects,
I have specific things that I need for spaces.
So if you want to try to vibe code something for me,
just DM me.
I give you all my ideas. I give you all my ideas.
And you're going to build the best app ever.
Yeah, maybe you can run the spaces on blockchain.
Who knows?
But it's crazy that ChatGPT actually introduced
the ChatGPT Health,
a dedicated space for health conversations in ChatGPT.
It's not available here yet,
but I tried it anyway.
And ChatGPT told me that I'm fat ass
after the Christmas holiday.
So yeah, that's the truth.
That's the truth.
But talking about losing weight, is Able here still?
Because he has been posting some crazy stuff.
He's been losing weight like crazy.
And big shout out to him for sharing that and for doing that.
Absolutely love it. Big props to him. That that and for doing that. Absolutely love it.
Big props to him.
That's incredible.
So love that, love that.
And yeah, man, I use AI that basically I download all the spaces,
and especially Alpha DGEN's one.
And I go through the transcript, and I'm
trying to find the patterns.
I'm going for the seed phrases and stuff like that.
But no, I don't do that.
I don't do it.
By the way, I also wanted to mention that Gemini is actually
I never really was using it that much.
But for some of the that the, that I mentioned that the, the, the business strategy and so on, it, it, it tends to give like really precise questions.
It's so funny.
We've been working on a really big project for this year and we've been talking about it all the fucking time from all angles and everything and uh uh one of one of our employees he was like uh
yeah so i i just i was just talking to uh to gemini uh the other day uh and uh and you know
like this is this is what i got and and it's basically the entire outline for from our past
three months and yeah but uh at the same time the, you know, the fun was missing.
So we had a lot of fun along the way.
So, but it's, it can, it's definitely a shortcut to, to better answers and to, to some things.
So, yeah, I love the project, bro.
I love the secret project.
I heard the rumors and I'm, guys, I can't believe it.
You know, Tino, they, they, they've been building a statue for me on the biggest square in Czech Republic. So thank you so much, guys, I can't believe it. You know, Tino, they've been building a statue for me
on the biggest square in Czech Republic.
So thank you so much, guys.
I really appreciate it.
I know it's secret, but now I know it.
Yeah, APL's here.
GPT told us to do it.
I know, yeah, I know, I know.
But guys, we have really exciting start of the year
with AI is doing crazy things.
I think we all will be
vibe coding, you know, AlphaDigen, he's already top 99% of people because he also vibe codes,
I'm probably the low 1% that haven't actually started yet, but I'll do it soon.
Brad Armstrong shared that at some point you will get an urge to vibe code an app.
Shrunk shared that at some point you will get an urge to vibe code an app.
It's very important that you listen to that urge and just get started.
Love that.
I'll have to do it.
Also, Balaji in 2026, Claude Code could finally unleash the golden age of local and decentralized apps.
It's going to be crazy here.
It's going to be crazy here.
Crypto, AI, and everything that's happening.
Other side, ApeCoin, ApeChain. I see that see it for Chespi, so let's bring Chespi here.
And we, yeah, we'll, before Chespi got here, you know.
This is for you, Chespi, you know?
This is for you, Chespi, you know.
I love this song.
Oh my god, it's gonna be my ringtone, but
damn, no one uses ringtones anymore.
Chespi, welcome here.
How are you doing today, bro?
Bro, you're making me cry, bro.
No spoilers.
I'm sorry, I ruined Stranger Things for Simple Farmer.
So if you don't know that Eleven is...
Yo, but you know, Begna...
Gracie, bro.
Don't do it!
Yo, but man. GM, GM, first man uh grateful you know tino my boy proof of alpha
dj man i love his name man you gotta you gotta love you know his name bro happy to be here here grateful show man yo yo oh man stranger things bro what the heck what a
tweet from AI other side RTI man and now stranger things what's going on yo
like chill right but now man I'm actually a here just to to talk a little bit about ai how bro i used to hate ai
you know coming from a family of artists you know and but man uh ai can be very very useful
and it has changed my mind in the last year last two years and uh yeah man i it's it's helping a lot of people i'm not gonna lie it has
helped me with the learning process bro like bro from not doing nothing yo i learned how to sculpt
now in blender like i can model stuff inside blender now and bro unreal bro like it's and i'm able to do stuff in unreal as well
it has helped me with the process of learning and uh i'm a self-taught person and i'm not gonna lie
bro ai it's been very useful in my in my life in my learning process man jim and i they they actually
have uh some mode if you want to learn something you just say hey i
want to learn this and they they prepare you the materials like imagine you going to school man
imagine you at school like i don't know does it even make sense to go to school these days and
and follow the same well school is it's over it's that it's it's bad you, like, I mean, I know this space is recorded, but I mean, there's a lot of videos about it, right?
Everything has changed, but education and the weight of teaching is still the same thing, right?
It hasn't changed anything.
I think probably in the next one year or in the next year, we're going to see something revolution.
Like it's going to change completely the weight of teaching.
I think we're gonna see that soon
because the old days of teaching, it's garbage.
I'm happy to see new programs being integrated
in the schools near where I am,
like robotics, gaming you know trying to push the kids into
why they are best and but still you know it's not all schools here in the u.s are pushing something
like that right and uh i'm probably gonna be uh taking over the lettering center oh damn that's
cool man man it's absolutely crazy.
And every time I'm such a bad, I have such a bad influence on kids.
Tino already knows, you know, he's like, he's like, oh, Uncle Grateful is coming.
Oh, Matej, you stay home today, you know, so you're not going to meet him there.
True story.
I don't know.
Tino, can I share that story or not?
Of course you can, man. Guys. You started. Okay. I'll share this quick story. Yeah, I don't know, Tino, can I share that story or not? Of course you can, man. You
started. Okay, I'll share this quick story and then I will talk about education. But guys, we
were in like a dance competition, right? And we got a wristband. I think one was red and one was
blue. And, you know, you raised your hand, like you voted for red team, so you raised your red hand, right?
You voted for blue team, you raised your hand with a blue wristband.
And I told Tino's son, like, hey, if you show middle finger, it counts for two points.
So he was going around with a wristband, middle fingering everyone.
I love that.
And yeah, two weeks later, he's like, yeah. Fingering everyone. I love that. Bro.
I'm not. Sorry.
But middle finger here in my planet is actually.
I love you, bro.
I told him to.
The problem is that he went to school next day.
And he showed that finger to his teacher.
And she wasn't happy.
So, yeah. I'll actually have to go to school.
Expecting two points.
He was like, I need two points.
So I actually have to go to school and deal with the teacher.
Yeah, but I can handle it.
You know, she was in 70s.
That's good, you know.
But, oh shit.
But what I wanted to say about, oh, did I have such a bad influence on kids?
Every time I see someone around like, you know, in high school and they writing some stuff, I'm like, are you retarded?
Like, shit, GP, dad.
Like, don't write it, you stupid or something.
So, yeah, parents hate me.
Kids love me.
And, yeah, it's bad.
Yeah, it's bad.
Don't tell me you're the uncle of Derek.
Yeah, bro.
Also before ApeFest, we were with my son and Grateful goes like,
yeah, I have this checklist that what we need to do in Vegas.
And one of them, oh, we need a small kid.
Mati, could you be our little kid that we can lose you?
And Mati goes, look at me with his eyes.
Can I really go to ApeFest? Oh my God. He's like his dream to go to ApeFest. little kid that we can lose you and mattie goes look at looking at me with his eyes can i really
go to ape fest oh my god he's like his dream to go to ape fest but grateful was kind of convincing
him that that he can go so we can lose him man i'm like oh my god uh i don't have words for that
i ran a casting for a small baby for vegas bro and no one applied like that's that's a shame guys
i really hope the next apeES you'll be better,
but it's not going to be probably a hangover theme.
It's going to be something else.
So, I don't know.
It never was.
You are the only one who had a hangover theme the entire time, bro.
There was never a hangover theme.
Never, ever.
Yeah, it was fun, man.
It was fun.
It's so funny that our friend actually left for Vegas like three days ago and because he flew through Amsterdam and they have some blizzard and some crazy snow situations, which means like less than inch of snow.
And there's a, there's a, you know, they close the airport and it's fucked. And I think he's just on the way to Vegas after three days.
on the way to vegas after three days uh so i think yeah he had to he had to fly to paris now and
he was in a plane like three times at least he had a first class so he was always just eating
very extensively and and it's so crazy it's so crazy once you are really caught in the middle
it felt like a movie like home alone or something. I've never really experienced it
so close from somebody. It's so funny.
It's not funny at all. I know, but it's so funny. I love to watch it.
Chespie, I saw you Unmitted wanted to add anything.
Yeah, yeah, that counts. That counts. Sorry, i was i was about to say something right now
on the comment section and you got me bro now yo yo i'll be back i'll be back i have to post
the first i'll be back don't dox me mfr okay there's a yeah okay i'm going to also check
the comments guys oh my god we have such a great vibe today. I love it.
Don't forget, I see Baron.
Don't forget meet at the clubhouse today.
It's tonight.
For me, basically, or for us, you know, it's tomorrow because it starts midnight.
So it's almost on Friday,
but I like it better on Friday
because it's like the end of the week for me.
But we're in Europe, you know,
no one works past Wednesday here. So it's like the end of the week for me. But we're in Europe, you know, no one works past Wednesday here,
so it's okay.
So, guys, meet
at the clubhouse tonight, or
today, in the other side. Can't wait
to be there. It's gonna be another great
one. It's the first one of 2026, so
can't wait to learn some alpha.
Let's see what
Baron drops there. And
yeah, Czespi, I'm waiting for what you
and damn I see
Achim's ape again
and he has such a great
it's incredible you know you
could pick whatever background
but you chose
the aquamarine so
it's beautiful
it's art. Love it.
So, Chespi, are you here?
Now I remember why I don't come here. Fuck.
Oh, shit, you have orange background.
How did that happen?
Hey, fuck you guys! Sorry. I see the Dr. Dave code,
I see what you did there.
It's not funny.
It's not funny, okay?
It's not funny, okay?
What's going on there?
Holy shit, that's funny.
Anyways, we have a
the same time, bro.
It's extremely funny. What do you mean same time, bro. It's extremely funny.
What do you mean it's not funny?
It's extremely funny.
Those oranges.
Yeah, Dr. Dave Cohen is like,
Dr. Dave Cohen is like,
I use Grok for that.
No way, Dr. Dave Cohen,
he doesn't know how to use Grok.
He opened a paintbrush in Windows 95 and he started drawing, bro. He started drawing, Dr. Dave Conkik, he doesn't know how to use Grog. He opened a paintbrush in Windows 95
and he started drawing, bro.
He started drawing, bro.
I'm telling you.
Yeah, 100%.
Oh, AlphaDG is coming back.
So let's bring him back.
I don't know if there is other space today.
Nana, give us sign.
If there is other space,
it usually starts in five minutes.
And guys will 100% talk about the new avatars that are on the open page.
So this is the last call, guys.
Get the open page.
Badge op.xyz forward slash claim.
And the code is GO BIG.
That's what...
Chespi's all like
Chespi's like I know what's coming
I'm not sure if I'm gonna say that
but you know
somewhere around the world
is past 10pm
so maybe I can say it but
yeah that's what Chespi's wife told him
last night but I don't know if it happened
but yeah AlphGN, go ahead.
I just want to give you a good look, bro.
I heard you, a patron, you know, just kind of asking about your app.
So if you're really serious and you're trying to get an app for something to happen, let's do it, bro.
I vibe cold the hell out of it.
You know, I understand computer logic and programming logic. I program in COBOL,
which is an older language, but it's still programming language,
like literally syntax command line programming. So if you want to make,
let's do it. Let's get after the show. Let's get together. Let's make it happen.
Yeah bro, I DM you. I think it's one of the best ideas of 21st century,
but I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding here. And I think you will make a lot of money, bro. I DM you. I think it's one of the best ideas of 21st century, but I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding here.
And I think you will make a lot of money, bro.
And you will be able to upgrade your ape to Aquamarine.
So it's a win-win for everyone.
I give you the idea for free. You make
money and you can upgrade your ape. So it's
incredible. I think you make
so much money from it that you
will be able to buy another ape to Lost
and he can also upgrade the ape. So
it's gonna be crazy, man.
We're going to send those oranges to burn address,
which someone would say,
then you make them more rare, right?
But if you have something that you...
Okay, I'll stop there,
because that's thin ice right now, okay?
I could say it, but I'm not going to say it,
because they clip me, they will find me,
they will punch me in the face.
I'm not going to risk it. No, I'm They will find me. They will punch me in the face. I'm not going to risk it.
No, I'm kidding.
I love you guys.
I love all apes, no matter the background.
Also, I see TJ, the creator.
Incredible artist, guys.
Incredible artist.
Click on his profile.
Check what he's been cooking.
We have also another Jubrel, another incredible artist.
He's behind the bench.
Look at him.
Hey, who the fuck pinned pinned that what if i who
hey what's going on here remember tino you lost your coho somehow because you dropped down
so be careful you know i'm dangerous right now dangerous right after right after you said that
your uh your twitter your ex the app crashed. And it completely crashed all of a sudden.
Yeah, your ex, I got a joke, bro.
Yeah, go ahead.
Oh, my ex crashed.
That's a MF.
That's a MF.
I crashed as well.
No, so my, the app crashed completely.
And it was funny because it restarted right away
and I could hear Simple Farmer,
how he continued that sentence.
And my mic was on and at the same time,
I couldn't unmute, you know, and it was very weird.
So I had to drop down, I had to restart the app
and it was hilarious.
It was just after you mentioned the crashing app X.
It's crazy because Tino is the only MF3 in Web3
hosting spaces on iPhone 3GS.
So guys, it's crazy.
No, it's iPhone, bro, but from 2007, bro,
or 2008, because we didn't have the OG iPhone in Europe.
I have a BlackBerry still.
I love it.
Typing on BlackBerry.
Guys, our audience, like, what the fuck
those dinosaurs? Like, they're crazy, man.
Alphadegen, I will DM you. Chespi,
you wanted to add anything or...
I saw you unmuted and then I kept talking.
So, wanted you add
anything or you just... Oh no, no, no, no, good man, you know, but man, what can I say? You know, yesterday,
I actually went to the other side to see all these MFers playing. Bro, these guys are wild,
man. I have a laugh yesterday with with these semesters and uh i was doing
a giveaway but i it looked like my algo is bad um yes nobody likes my but anyways i was
doing a giveaway it's it else he actually uh ends in two hours but if you were there you know uh make sure you tap in and uh but no uh man dr dave talking about
dr dave man i met that method in nft paris uh been awesome person and uh he's currently minting
too on the on the opia um website so you guys gotta tap in if you guys like what Inceptive Studios has done in collaboration with him.
And bro, a little bit sad because talking about Dr. Dave brought the nostalgia of NFT Paris.
I know you like NFT Paris too, grateful for him, but this year we're not gonna have it.
So shit, you know, it's crazy.
It was an incredible conference, not gonna have it so you know it's it's crazy it was incredible conference not gonna lie
um i think i missed the last year 25 but i i was 24 23 i'm not sure about 22 maybe two i don't know
but it was always incredible uh it was great vibes were insane uh yeah but hopefully next year um
that's why i I commented last time
here on show that really grateful for ApeFest because ApeFest is still going. It was insane
this last year, not this year, last year. And it's going to be crazy this year too.
So yeah, guys, really, really excited. But yeah, NFT Paris. We also met Dr. Dave Conor
at Mutant Cartel event
and it was so good.
I'm not going to share that.
But it was great meeting him there.
Guys, I know
Other Space is starting soon or maybe
started one minute ago.
So we're going to slowly wrap it up here.
Big shout to everyone listening.
Go to Meet at a Clubhouse today
in the other side go to other
space support your fellow apes or other pfps here other djans other friends everyone that's here in
this space today so many legends also i see the the bad dress uh another og dr dave coin uh l
lampo love that name julie julian oh my god what a beautiful that's that name Julie Julian oh my god
what a beautiful
that's such a beautiful mutant
the Martin Krypto
is so good in basketball
he's the same level
as me in spaces
that's how he's good
in basketball
it's absolutely wild
he can dunk
The Legend and so on,
guys. If we didn't call your name,
MX, also. If we didn't call
your name today,
Rebecca, another
beautiful... If we didn't call your ex.
If we didn't call your ex. And we have
also... Brongis!
We have also Candle Park
here. Oh my god, such a beautiful dogo.
And so on, guys. So, we love you. We see you. Thank you so much for the... Oh, oh my god, such a beautiful dogo, and so on guys
so we love you, we see you
thank you so much for the, oh, Gatsby
you know, he's part of my team, Showbiz
the legend
yeah, we're gonna be back on Tuesday
of course, there are many spaces happening
tomorrow we have ABC, me and
Squiddy, and Marathon talking about basketball
Trey Young, MF1, Trey Young
That's crazy.
Yeah, and Tino's like, holy shit, Young, that's mean.
Oh, no, no, that's not that.
Yeah, oh my God, you wish.
No, I'm kidding, sorry.
We'll stop this.
I have to come up with something better.
But guys, go to other space, have fun.
You can still retweet this space,
so we have more tuned in
claim the code or claim the badge
sorry claim the badge
say hi to Lost and NGB
and have fun guys
have fun that's the most important
let's fucking go
yeah I told you man
you hear this probably every day, man.
Please just be.
At least once a month.
Yeah, I didn't want to.
That was good.
Yeah, it was good.
That was a proper roast, man.
I love that roast.
Tino, anything you would love to share?
Yeah, guys.
Thank you for
tuning in i make sure to uh you still have time even if you if you came late uh
oh shit tino you didn't you didn't make it better today oh my god
oh my god oh my god no oh. You can still listen in
on your favorite podcast platform.
But what I wanted to say,
you can still
claim the badge
22 more hours.
And bro, yeah, that's...
Oh my god, bro.
You killed it. I love it, bro.
This was the best ending.
We love you. So many great people here in the audience, guys.
Oh, my God.
Sometimes you can come up with jokes like that,
but, you know, on spot, Tino came up with such a legendary joke.
Love it, Tino.
I will make you a T-shirt for the next ApeFest.
I came late.
That sounds great, man.
Oh, my God.
Yeah. Let's wrap it up
here, guys. Have fun. Go to the other site. Go to
other space. Mint some mintables
on OpenPage. Buy some
ApeChainNFTs. Buy, if you want, you know,
buy Mutant. Buy Ape. Buy OtherDeed.
Buy Doggo. Buy Coda. Yeah.
What the fuck is Coda? I don't know, but maybe you
figure it out if you buy it, right?
Buy ApeCoin and
you know, Gatsby
tell your wife, stop texting me
it's crazy, it's annoying, you know, I don't want to see
those pictures and keep winning
in the Exodus Rising
guys, I think the restart is
in a few hours. No bro, you should
keep winning, you should
start winning
keep winning, start winning, whatever you want to do
and watch Stranger Things because there's going to be spoiler alerts next week, start winning, whatever you want to do. And watch Stranger Things
because there's going to be spoiler alerts
next week, 100%. So if you
haven't seen it like Simple Farmer, please go
watch it because I'll share it.
Bro, but back now, bro.
The head, right?
It was like
ABC playing basketball.
Guys, if you missed the last episode actually I was
awake yesterday or basically
today till like 3am
because I was waiting for series
5 episode 9 that didn't
come you know I was like
what yeah so
they robbed us
they robbed us bro they robbed us
but yeah man guys
we have to go to other space
because they are their life right now
I don't want to take their time
so have fun
enjoy your weekend
have a great time
say hi to Chespi, say hi to AlphaDG
say hi to everyone here in the audience
retweet the space, bookmark the space
comment the space
I don't know maybe DM people here and just tell them everyone here in the audience retweet the space bookmark the space comment the space uh
i don't know maybe dm people here and just tell them something that you want to tell them right
like maybe i love you or send me some money i don't know whatever you want to do guys have fun
feed pics whatever kind of pics you know send them don be ashamed, don't be scared. This was Grateful Show 429, that was crazy, guys.
Yeah, I don't know how we're doing that, but we can stay serious maximum like 65 minutes and then
it goes always downhill. And I have two songs for the outro outro guys. So, oh my god, what's going on here?
Yeah, one is end of the...
Oh my god!
Yeah, basically that was... Chespy, go ahead.
No, I was putting my hands up, you know Oh my god, let's go, yeah
And guys, putting your hands up
Now you can clap your hands
That's what I love
Clap the hands
Clap the hands, everybody
Oh, we have high beer
Such a beautiful Aquamartine effort Just pluck the hand, everybody! Oh, we have Hybeer! I love ya, Hybeer!
Such a beautiful aqua margin MF-er.
I'm tired!
I'm not tired!
And, uh, aspiring nobody, let's fucking go!
I'm not what!
I'm not tired!
I'm not tired!
I'm not tired!
We have Tusk here, dead banter MF-er!
I'm not what! I'm not what! We have tusk here dead Benter MFR I need some screens controlled by the feed. What is it, all this shit I'm seeking?
No, the big screen that's all goes yelling signs of a local crowd unraveling.
And guys, don't forget to claim the badge.
The hint is what Chespie's wife told him yesterday.
So the code is GO BIG.
What is it, I can see the hint here.
Here by here all the senses appeared.
Now the person's best press, I just wanna say,
beware! 2015 is here!
I feel good!
Like, Kyle, little shit!
Fuck this kid!
What is it? Who got kid?
Where is the kid?
I got kid!
She got kid!
She got kid!
Everybody! Yeah, I'm really careful, Chesi, what I ask for, you know, because I'm not asking for that right now.
Guys, have a good one. Enjoy your Thursday.
See you in the other side later today, and let's fucking go, everybody.

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