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ShilinWitDaHomies
Recorded: July 26, 2025 Duration: 3:07:48Space Recording
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Okay. Okay.
Okay.
Huh.
Go turn on smoking, Jay. Oh, let
me try to bring you
Hello.
What's going on, Maureen? We're just getting started. Still trying to check my sound. Guys,
give me a thumbs up. I just can't hear anybody, but I don't. I don't know if you guys
can hear me. Hold on. I couldn't for like the last minute and a half, but you're good now.
Okay, Maureen can hear me. Smoking J, can you say something? I just did.
I couldn't hear you for the first couple minutes, but now I can. All right, good.
Latencies being covered. Oh man, how's this guy going to communicate between fucking Mars and here,
and you and I can't even communicate with North Korea to order you. I love you. Say it's North Korea
again. It's South, but I love the jokes. I know. I I know that, but I think people like it makes
you go, "What the fuck?" Titles in North Korea to the glorious leader. Um,
quantum entanglement that Elon doesn't have access to. So there's some companies that have created
a communication system with quantum entanglement. Yeah, I don't, I don't think Elon owns
the technology. I don't know how he's going to get access to that, but but that's one way
you could do it. I take that question serious. Well, yeah, and well, and does is Elon really ahead
of technology? He's he's like the richest man in the world. But I don't know if if his opinions
really showcase like
the the best ideas versus him having access to a lot of experts, right? So I don't know.
He's got that different intelligence. Trying not to get canceled. God,
there's so many so many things to talk about. I I gotta give credit to Spentron Space Man. Jesus,
he does have the pulse on Cardano. Do you feel that? Yes, I would agree.
I was I was sitting over there. I'm like waiting, and I was like, I'm gonna check. And I was like,
Oh, there's title space, deuces. Yeah, yeah. Because because we we cover things other than Cardano,
but um, I don't know. I might I might talk to him about this because he want he wants a spot.
You know, by accident though, he did the same market research that I guess I did.
This is the only spot really for Cardano spaces, but we're not really a Cardano space anymore. So,
like, it's just Cardano space, man. I I don't know Cardano. I feel, I for me personally,
and I'm chain agnostic. I don't think that any one chain. To me, having one chain that rules them
all is like saying that only Bitcoin or only Ethereum is going to succeed.
Everything else will fail. That's like having only one kind of car. Only Ford
is allowed to make cars, and everybody has to drive a Ford. Nobody's going to buy that.
It just it doesn't work in a free world economy. But For me, what I've noticed with Cardano is it's
just a lot of like high school bickering shit, and they it's so dumb though
because the technology's solid. Yes, there are issues, but every chain has its issues.
You go to ETH, people bitch that Vitalik doesn't do enough or doesn't support the communities,
and there's there's stuff like that on all chains. But I feel, from my experience, on Cardano,
Cardano, it's winded about more. With no, there's no nobody comes with a solution.
They just bitch about what's wrong. Yeah, I I think what what's interesting is like. You know,
Minswap taking things over, and I understand Spentron's thoughts and why a monopoly
within Cardano is not necessarily a good idea. But on the other hand, if they become like the Apple
of Cardano, like like when it was good, then this could be good for the overall ecosystem, right?
So I understand the hype behind it, right? If there's one good company with a good set
of products that everyone can just go to and refer to, it could make adoption a lot. A lot easier,
right? But the problem is that then again you have it in monopoly, one on one chains.
So I don't know. I don't know. I want to say good morning, Jimmy Bones.
I don't know if we'll do a giveaway, but we might. And Maureen is here. You want to say
good morning? Is it morning? Good morning, guys. Ymym. Should Should I be calling you, Lady Maureen?
No, Maureen is fine. You can call me Yam, though. Okay. Okay. Uh, what what brings you here? Yeah,
you guys were talking about Cadano. That's what brought me here. Okay.
You're talking shit about my chain. How about you? It's it's all our chain.
That's why we talk the most shit about it. It's like because we know. You know what I mean?
We know the shit. We've been here for I know three years now. I have thoughts, right? I think.
No matter how much Cardano sucks, it's it's kind of hard to leave. You might become maybe
chain agnostic, like you guys said, but it's like I I feel like the people who have even said, hey,
I'm leaving, they don't they never left. They're still around. They can be acting. Yeah,
just they just form now some groups of I don't know if it's beta people
and they just talk shit together and call everyone out and it's it's really funny, but.
For the most part, I agree with everything you guys said. Do Do you know about
the new MinSwap aggregator controversy of of the week? Whoa, there's a controversy on that.
What happened? No, there's always a controversy. Ah, Melon was. We haven't settled on. Okay.
We're leaving yet. We haven't said. What's that? Oh, Mel Melon made DexHunter. He had this thing.
He started in the NFT space. And he had these jungle sniper NFTs that would like aggregate data
for NFTs, but the liquidity was really hard for NFTs. So in my opinion,
he saw token just easier ways to make money. So he created DexHunter, which was a token aggregator,
and it was the king. And now MinSwap is coming in to apparently eat his lunch.
Some people don't like him because they felt that they're they were rugged during his NFT project,
the jungle NFTs. But he had a really good aggregator. It's just kind of expensive,
so I don't know if MinSwap is going to undercut them or how they're going to eat his lunch.
But Spintron's point is that MinSwap is swallowing other businesses that had been funded by
Catalyst. So DexHunter was funded by Catalyst. People didn't like it, but he he got funding as far
as they know. And now MinSwap is creating something that could be cheaper and better, or convenient,
and they're gonna they're gonna kill potentially kill Melon's Dex DexHunter.
So the controversy is that MinSwap is becoming like old school Microsoft Bill Gates,
and they're just smacking around and consuming any competition, and thus Spentron's point,
if I understand it correctly. I was on the space earlier, but there was this guy that I really hate
was there, so I left. It it's was it um. This is recorded space. Recorded space. I know. I know.
I don't care. But anyway, I think. This is the problem. If you have a,
if there's a project that is building something that you want to build, why not talk to the project
and say, "Hey, I was thinking we could do this and this. What do you think about that?" What is so?
You want the flurriest answer? Okay. What if they go bankrupt and rug? I had a friend. Okay,
he was helping me unrug a project. And then he rugged and had to give the project to somebody else.
I mean, that's that's why. Got to build it yourself. No. Okay, but if you build it yourself,
you you you could rug anyway. There's always that. Yeah, yeah, but at least at least I'm pulling
the gun. You know, the shot to kill the dog, right? It's not someone else telling me they just shot
the dog and that I have to deal with it. Okay, but how? Why do you think projects rug on Kadano
in general? I'm not talking about the grifters. I know as a person who pretty much works for free
on projects has have not made any money to report the United States government
that like would be worthwhile, right? Well, there's this basic. The basic reason is they get funding
and they don't know what to do with it, and or they don't know
how to continue to keep getting funding to do the thing that they're supposed to do, and that's it.
I love it. You're laughing at this, but but that's like the main reason. And then everything else.
I get it's funny, but it's true. I mean, maybe that's why it's funny because it's true.
But so I know that's the answer. My pro the the question is that do you think
if uh you could like minswap? I'm guessing they have um they have sponsors, they have money,
they have way more money than uh the other project. So if they have the money to kick things off,
then the robbing part is not. A problem. I see you hear what you're saying. So why not join them?
Possibly. Exactly. That's building together. Not. It's just. It doesn't make sense to me. It's.
It doesn't. We'll say that you are getting funding for something you're doing,
and you're getting paid to do it, right? Or, or worse, you're like me, you're just developing
and working on stuff for free, and then all of a sudden, Minsoft can do it better,
and then you're like, okay, maybe they just do it better. Why would they nest in there?
They like need me. Or how does how does my value proposition for the thing I'm working stand out
against minswa? So that's another way. Not to be negative about, but that's that's
the other possibility, right? So yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think the stuff like minswa.
And with the story, or even though the story is a very controversial figure, to hear positive on on
Spentron Space is a surprise. I'm like, oh my god, he's filled with optimism.
What the hell is going on? This is this is crazy. This is crazy. It's even even the positivity is
toxic positivity. Just kidding. Um, but but the thing is, C-Swot does do things differently,
and I think they're better. But better doesn't always beat the competition.
So the other way to think consider is. Do they carve out a small part,
a niche of the overall market, and keep their small market community happy? And by doing so,
they can be a success, but not necessarily the top dog, right? And then they have to work around
that that that being an issue with with growth and stuff like that. So, I think for for C Swap,
given the amount of money that they've raised and their history,
they really want to be maybe the second or third. Decks or something, right?
Because that would really pay off for them. Versus, I I always go on about Angel Coin ADA.
Started with just a guy's day job money, a couple guys day jobs money.
They found a a good like trader. They built up a really good community,
and with all that money pulled together, they've got a functioning business that,
as far as I can tell, is is making profit. So, by scaling really small and not doing a a runway of
five to seven years of real profitability. I think like Angel Coinadia is like a good example
of a small scale project has a community and it it grew to take over Levy Finance after the Apes
left you know to base and I I think it has a lot of legs if it it like the reason I think it's
a good project if it doesn't scale up it can maintain well and at the same time
if it keeps doing well it can scale up but I don't know if Minswap can do that.
I don't know if C swap could do that because they started with five or seven year runways.
They didn't think about starting small. It's community, right? It's community.
You you don't you can't do that with money only. Building a community is very hard.
It's the hard part, and it's the part I think most founders don't know about.
That's why they spend their time on X, hitting people left, right, center,
instead of focusing on their project and being making partnerships and just.
Giving people something to hold on to, and yeah, if you look at, do do you think
that Levy succeeded? Oh, sorry, Angel Coin. Keep calling them Levy. Yeah, they they they pay out.
It's because of that's a success to me. It is. You know, it is. I have, I have like.
I think I have like ten angels, and I get one ADA every month, which is crazy.
I don't get that much on my rewards for staking. Yeah, not staking. I don't get that much,
and I have, I think, over five hundred ADA staked. So, dude, one ADA on it's it's a lot.
I think it make, and then it makes me wonder what if I had a lot of angels.
I would just turn it turn all my ADA to angels and. You know, I can't give that financial advice,
but I've thought about that. So, as everything is owned by my wife for tax reasons, my wife has
more angels than Cardano. It's ridiculous. And when Cardano dips to like fifty-five cents
or something, I was still under a dollar. The angels just make more sense.
Even even most crypto projects, they pay back. Spentron did some math,
which was I'm trying to find in my feed, but he basically broke down that yeah. Oh,
is this right here? Hold on. Okay, angels. Here we go. I'll put this right here.
Some some try to raise ADA for a 12% stablecoin APR when ADA is 12% away from a dollar.
Others hold angels and get over 15% APR in ADA and over 25% USD APR, which wasn't even
a full month of earning. So I double checked with them because I I did this with Grok,
and it's because ADA is going up. That's why the dollar APR is going up.
But if you exclude the dollar APR, you have a 15% APR in in Cardano. So at some point,
and this is why I thought about this a lot with angels. If this can continue,
and you're always getting you're getting ADA and fiat currency globally, backed by the dollar,
is being inflated to hell. Angels is a great investment, right? I mean, it just seems that way
because if. May I ask how how do they make money? I don't know what they do. To be honest. God,
I wish I could explain that. How do they make money? I can explain that very easily.
Jimmy Bones could explain that, but. Jimmy Bones might be with his woman, so we don't bring him up,
or we have to hear complaints like, "Oh God, hopefully he's not hearing right now.
" She's just something like, "You're always naked." Sorry, yeah, I'm naked on the phone with his ex.
Spaces, you know, that's the last time we heard. So, much love, Jimmy Bones.
We're gonna do some giveaways. Spo here, shout to Spo and Tara Mecca. Wonderful to see you. Okay,
so that's why we can't bring Jimmy Bones up anymore, but he can explain angels pretty well. Um.
I'm going to explain it terribly. To my understanding, they have an investor.
There's three people that make the team. There used to be four. One of those other people is like
Alpha Sharks or something, and he was also an investor. And what they do is they mix
different types of investments. I think that could include 4x trading, like currency trading.
That intrudes arbitrage trade. Okay, do you both saying no? Do okay. I said to my understanding.
Okay, fine. I won't even give specifics. There's this investing going on between crypto
and traditional stocks that has made the most sense. And then what happened before they got levy is
that they're making so much extra money they could put. A certain amount of money
into the angel treasury and a certain amount of money back to holders of the angel coin. In fact,
they had so much planned out, they literally do airdrops, which is the most expensive way
to send anyone a token, is to airdrop. Like I airdropped in projects before.
That stuff can start adding up to like thousands of Cardano. Okay, so for them to just flex and say,
"Ah, we'll just airdrop it every month," dear God. Related to that, they are at least last time
I talked to to DeFi like. On a recorded space, they are working on something related to
their website or something to make it an easier way to to a cheaper way to get the rewards,
so that you know they don't have to waste the money on airdrops. They could give that
to more people. And the other thing too is how they launched. They did fair launch,
so even the founders had to buy in. And for the record, since I don't make a lot of money,
and my wife makes a lot more, but it's really hard to convince her that there's any money
to be made here with 90% of the NFTs in in the wallets completely rugged.
Could put a lot of money to get more angels for the family. So that's how they do it.
That's how they do it. They zeroed out their costs. They actually have a one good trader.
They started with two, but unfortunately, some things happened with the the other trader. And yeah,
that's it. I don't know. Again, that's a dumb, idiot way to explain it.
I even explained how levy actually makes even more ridiculous money for the project. I mean,
ridiculous amounts of money. I mean, sometimes it depends on the market, right?
Because there's also times where levies completely crashed, and the rewards have been terrible.
When they were sixteen, levy. All right, Maureen. Does that does that abstractly explain
how it works? I think Jimmy approves. So it's it's um there's somebody who trades our money
when we give it to them. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if they're using AI agents to trade yet,
but that's a possibility. Don't know. What if a trade goes wrong one day and everything?
Then we get less. Then when Levy Finance was having issues, they had to apologize to all of us.
They had to apologize to all of us. Oh my God! Yeah, we are giving our money for someone to to trade
and give us back. Well, but no, but but you gotta you gotta see how this worked.
It worked as a Kickstarter. They needed X amount of funds to start the system of giving us
monthly rewards. That's what it was. And then with that money they initially raised,
they were able to give rewards constantly every month. Even if they took some hits because of Levy
and some issues with Levy. Once they got Levy, that really secured a business that was functioning
that could continue to provide profits for for the project. And that's why that's why Angel Coinada
is is so strong. And there's so many people that just love it because.
They did every as far as saying they did everything they could right, like ninety nine percent right
in my opinion. Just because their tokenomics work and the thing they want to to build,
which is really an economic engine, right? You get a certain amount of fuel for for what
you need to start the investing and trading, and then once you have enough consistent investing
and trading that are gonna gonna generate profits at the end of the month,
then you can share those profits with people who initially gave you money.
So they kind of what do you call what's that thing called again? They kind of did microfinancing for
like everybody shrimps to whales to buy into an economic engine that provides rewards all the time.
This is what rich people do, you know, and we got a fraction of it. That's what's cool about it.
That's that's what's also insane about money. Yeah, I don't know how to explain.
All right, then we got other we got other topics. I before smoking Jay has to has to smoke
some other stuff. Me, we've been following AI stuff. So I want to. I'll talk about like
all the ridiculous stuff about AI maybe after. But one thing that Smoking Jay convinced me on was
the Think Agents, and the Think Agents have had this thing called TGE,
and they just have launched their coin, which is an AI token, using the Alex Becker mindset. Okay,
if if it's if it's not if not at all just pumpy dumpy, Alex Becker would constantly say,
"Don't just copy trade me." Right, get into your your own kind of tokens and stuff.
And I think I think Think AI the token actually actually is pretty good. Oh, he sent me.
How's my sound? I said I'm saying it's okay. Okay, I think it's okay. So yeah,
I want to kind of get in what's going on with with a Think token. Again, it's an AI token.
It's just been launched. It's been on KuCoin. I don't have access to a KuCoin KuCoin account
anymore right now, but it could take off. And again, I'm not financial advice,
but based off Alex Becker's analysis of AI tokens, I think there is a good community of loyal people
that will never sell their tokens. There seems to be ways to stake and get rewards from the tokens,
and the development team, as far as the development side, looks pretty experienced
and knowledgeable. So, even if the development team is terrible, They at least can come across
with the narrative that they're experts, and they can deliver the technology related to AI. Which,
according to Alex Becker, the narrative is the only thing that counts. So,
so this is not on Cardano. This is an EVM token. It's dirty. Let's get into it. All right, Smoky J,
what's going on? Can you update us? Uh, they're kind of Mikey and Jesse are resting this weekend,
and then the next ninety days will be pretty intense as far as launching on the Souls platform and.
Getting builders in their building. Have you checked out any of the Thursday
the building building hub meetings that they do? I saw it's Node based programming, and for Maureen,
our our our our speaker, our guest speaker here, Node. So if you don't know Node base,
the whole idea idea is that instead of programming by typing, you actually connect.
The dots between different nodes that have different types of programming inside them.
So it's programming graphically. Google just released an AI product recently that does
this very same thing, but Google is centralized, and Think Agent is trying to be decentralized.
What's going on, Cardano Stakepool? What's going on, Ode Bohan? There we go. I hope I said it right.
Bohan. Bohan. Just messed it up. I hope you come up here one day and just correct me. All right.
Where's sneeze? Okay, so that that's what I got from what I what I what I saw. Smoking Jay,
I I thought there was supposed to be a way to get access early to it, but I I ran out of time
in my week, so I I didn't get like access to the souls early access to the souls platform.
If I'm able to, as my wife, maybe a holder. Right now I'm a holder. I'm sorting out the taxes yet
on this. So got a darn Ethereum wallet. I got to deal with taxes stuff anyway. So yeah,
that that's basically it. I'm looking through the the announcements right now related to this. Um,
we got the order holders. So did you full stake? Your I haven't done anything.
I I I haven't been doing his work. That's like that's my thing. Okay, so I'm trying to figure this
all out now. So your your next step will be to go into Discord and get the link to go
and claim your link token, because you bought. When did you buy yours? Last week, right?
I bought it two weeks ago. Okay, so you have you have an allocation depending on what number token
you hold. So if you hold number one thousand. Your allocation it started with five thousand
and it goes down one token per mint number. So I minted number sixty-nine, so I got
four thousand nine hundred and thirty-one tokens. Oh, Jesus! That's much higher than was that higher
than you? Was that lower? Sorry, say the number again. Four four thousand nine hundred thirty-one.
Think. Okay, it's a little lower because I thought you said you might get five thousand. No, no,
it started at five thousand. So the person who minted number one got five thousand.
The person who munted number two got four thousand nine hundred ninety eight
or ninety hundred ninety nine, and then the next person, number three or two, got nine eight,
and then number three, nine seven, and so on down until, but the max low
was like twenty five hundred. So, oh Lord's here, fantastic. So, here's the thing: I have,
if the math is right, I got to find an allocation. I should have like about three thousand of these
until, again, my wife claims it or whatever. Which which number did your wife purchase?
We did this last show. We should have. I should have about three thousand of these.
I think that's the case. Okay. All right. I'm willing to give a hundred of these.
My wife's willing to give a hundred of these to Maureen as a fellow lady in crypto. Okay,
that's that's what I'm gonna say, uh, and then yeah, but you gotta get it,
you gotta get a good Ethereum wallet. I apologize. Apologize for that. Uh, and we'll give,
I don't know, we'll we'll do another thing for giveaway. Get Jimmy Bones excited. Okay, all right.
If he's naked, now he's gonna be naked and excited. I I don't even wanna think about that now,
but it's in my head anyway. Thank you. Yeah, sir. Came here, put up with us talking smack
about Cardano, and you wanted to speak. That's that's the thing. Um. I wasn't.
I wasn't talking smack on Cardano. I was pointing out something that was obvious.
I also said there's a lot of great. There's a lot of great people, and there are the same issues
with that Cardano has on other chains. It just seems like it's louder. Okay,
I I will I will give another hundred of these thing tokens. On my wife will give another hundred
of these thing tokens to Odi Bonya if he comes out and corrects how I say his name. This is this is.
Ody, I love you, man. Ody, you you come here all the time. So if you want to come up
and claim a hundred free w free giveaway, you come up here and you say your name correctly,
so I can say it correctly, or I'll probably still mess it up, but at least I'll try to say it
correctly from now on. Okay, this is the one one time shot, but you have to come up
and you have to say it. Okay, all right, all right, okay. Yo, yo, he just he just DM me.
He says if you make it one thousand, either he's gonna make it. I don't even know if these things
are gonna be worth a thousand ADA. Okay, okay, I, I, I'm always, I'm always
two bad financial decisions away from a full on divorce. Okay, and I love my wife.
She gives me this office to go do this random space and work on for free on Cardano related
and crypto related gaming projects. So you know, I, I've, have you not seen how much
an office rental is? Nobody's telling. In North Korea, it's a lot. I'm kidding, kidding. A lot in
South Korea. Anyway, all right, okay. So I, I got what I, I got what I gotta do now.
I'm still trying to find it through here. I'm looking through announcements.
Not many people have been building for the metaverse. Oh yeah, that's our last thing though.
That's the last YouTube thing. They had a really, they had a really good guy.
They had like one of the first people that was working on the metaverse before it was cool,
and is still working on it even though it's not cool anymore. Uh, looking through in here. Yeah,
that's the guys from Futureverse. Oh, I see. What what's their connection again? This thing?
Are they part of the Think team officially or no? Uh, not part of the team, but they're so Think.
Mickey and Jesse started the Independent AI Institute, which is a consortium. They started
two years ago at not Rare Evo. What's the the one in Denver? East Denver? Somi. Maybe, maybe that's
where. But it started with like twenty people that basically looked at the direction
that AI was going and realized that if Sam Altman and Bill Gates and Google
and these companies have all of our data. It doesn't end well for us, so they started looking at
ways to decentralize it and keep it to where basically we will bootstrap
and build a group of people from Web three to fight against these big companies that are spending
hundreds of millions of dollars, like Apple is. As as much as I love the rhetoric,
to be more realistic, trying to develop a market for this type of product.
I think if you think about like Linux and why Linux is so important, where Microsoft and Apple
and everyone, including Google, have to use Linux technology, the reason they have to use it—it's
free and open source, right? Microsoft, yeah, right. Microsoft couldn't claim the internet;
they tried. That was horrible. Apple tried to do the same thing, and what? Thank God for Linux.
Without Linux, we wouldn't be doing what we're doing right now. So. I do see. I do agree with.
Oh god, shared culture. He's a brilliant guy. He's an architect, but he really knows about business
and technology. I think it might be too early for that for people to care,
and we don't know where the laws could potentially change. But but there's a there's this group
working on this. There are a couple other crypto projects also trying to do similar things.
But at least through Grok, looking through Crypto X, there seem to be only be three projects
like this. And I have to find the list again. Again, I did it. I did it last space.
Most of the other projects are going to be using like Amazon servers. You know,
they're they're going to use centralized services. So it's like, wait,
does it defeat the point of being in crypto? Yeah. So it's terrifying. Um,
one I can't remember which which one of the um the major providers of AI changed,
but there's this one. I think it's Claude. Claude changed their terms of service overnight
on people. And if I if I have the story right, it's related to that they're not making enough money.
Most of these AI companies aren't making enough money. So what's terrible is a lot of users are
dependent on Claude for all sorts of things, primarily like even programming projects and stuff.
And when Claude the the change effectively could hinder like the amount of money or their budgeting,
I can't remember exactly what it was. But but the scary part was is that yeah any
of these AI services or service providers could just stop your access to their technology.
And then what are you going to do, right? So, well, on to piggyback off that, a lot of them,
like if you look at what Canva's Canva's terms of service just changed a couple days ago,
they own anything you create. Anything you create with those coded shit.
If you look through the terms of service, they own the rights to that. So
if you're using it to write a code for this world-changing app, they can beat you to market
because they have everything that you've been working on, and they have
billions of dollars to bring it to market before my dumb ass in Portland,
Oregon is going to scrap together the three grand that I need to get it off the ground. Yeah,
it's the same. It's the same with Grok. Uh, Grok. Anything you input to Grok is
the original copyright holder. But anything that's outputed that could be considered original is
the is the copyright of Grok. You know, the IP of Grok. All right, I got.
And that's that's the scary thing. But also, like you said, to just be able to shut off your service
and your access to your stuff for whatever reason they decide to to use as an excuse, that's scary.
Yeah, I I guess I I didn't put this in the list, but I think maybe it's the best time to talk about
now. Have you been? If has anyone heard about the the war with Visa and Mastercard over content?
Have you guys been keeping up with this at all? Or I have not heard about it, but enlighten me.
Okay, as we have Maureen here, high class lady, Japanese adult games on Steam
that women in Australia. Through a organization called what is it called? I think it's called
Shout Collective Shout Collective Scream. I think it's Collective Shout. Got together
and they targeted all this not safe for work content. And basically, they went to
the payment providers of Steam, which is Mastercard and Visa, told them about the content,
and got them to agree that is not the type of content that they support.
So they removed these games, which are mainly were from Japan. And Japan makes lots of money
from this. We're talking like maybe it's like hundreds of millions of dollars from all the anime.
So this isn't a small sector of that from anime and comics and video games. In fact,
the Japanese video game industry outperformed the Western counterparts for one simple thing:
they allow attractive women. That exists in the real world to be in video games,
something that the Laurens laughing at this, something that the Western media was trying to say
is bad, and that ugly, unattractive women are the real thing that we all need,
while having man candy, which was okay to have man candy, and that alone kind of pissed off a lot
of women. So, a coalition of Western ladies. With extreme soccer mom values, came together,
and when one country failed, Australia has succeeded at targeting the payment providers. Yeah,
globally, which is Mastercard and Visa. Mastercard and Visa have worked out all the,
I don't want to say treaties, but definitely the business infrastructure to be able to be in
a communist country called China, while being able to be in the free world everywhere else,
and everything in between. So there's no way Steam, which has the biggest global audience.
Of video game content can deny the request to remove about twenty-seven thousand games off
of the Steam store, which again impacts a lot of smaller game studios in Japan,
but also in the world. The other factor too is is that the scary part about the censorship is,
and the new prime minister who got elected is actually talking about this being censorship being
a big problem. They targeted not for safe work games, yeah, basically cartoon porn, easy target.
But could they target attractive women? Uh, one of them being what's the game?
There's a there's a there's a wife of one of the developers, and she modeled for this game,
and the the developer, her husband, was attacked by women saying, "How dare you have
unrealistic proportions and unrealistic women in your game?" When it was like literally
the guy's wife, and and they had the backtrack. I I can't remember the gosh darn game's name.
That game is not porn. It just has a attractive woman. And sometimes he's dressed kind of, you know,
a little bit more sexy, right? And it sold. It did large numbers in China, large numbers globally,
and is is just anti-woke because it has an attractive, attractive female character.
But it's actual video game. The whole point is that could be targeted.
Because it was against the agenda to have a more moderate or unattractive woman, you know,
be the main character and push them to the masses, right? Going against the woke agenda. So yeah,
this is where there is a a war now, quote unquote. Japan is unfortunately no longer the country
of polite individuals. They're now being treated as the you know immoral,
anti-loving perverts of the world for standing up for free speech and you know free economics.
Which which is absolutely insane and crazy to me, but that's what's going on.
But they're the only country that banned visa. They did antitrust blockage on visa related to
doing business in Japan. But unfortunately, other countries are not joining this fight for smut,
for cartoon smut. Oh, I will say this though, Elon Musk did weigh on it since he basically generated
an AI hentai lady that you can have access to for three hundred dollars a month.
If you want a sexy Elon, you know it's basically a lot of Elon's opinions,
but wrapped in a attractive anime girl. He did stand up, and he said with a finger wagging.
How dare? I'm paraphrasing, of course, but he did say that the the the anti censorship thing is
kind of is important, and these companies can censor. While ironically,
he's also subject to the same power. Visa and Mastercard are how you pay for your 300 dollar waifu.
For those who don't know what a waifu is, your AI girlfriend that looks like a Japanese cartoon.
He needs those payment. Processes as well. So yeah, Visa and Mastercard are stepping it up.
They can they can censor anybody they want because they can just block
the the the international payment systems. So Japan is trying to develop
a alternative payment system. And again, this goes back to crypto. Hopefully,
with more Ethereum adoption or Cardano adoption or just crypto adoption,
they can potentially open up different payment services. Back to Elon,
what he's supposed to do is he is supposed to make a Doge payment system, as he said,
or any crypto payment system, even Bitcoin. And he hasn't. Which the question is why?
And you put your tinfoil hat on. The payment providers may have Elon's balls.
He might be the richest man in the world, but he's not Visa or Mastercard. So if he does create
alternative payment systems that would be actual competitors to Visa or Mastercard,
then they would just cut him off. And there isn't enough adoption in Bitcoin or any crypto, right,
to offset the amount of losses that he would for investors and other business interests related.
So there we go. Free speech in free economics is at war with Visa and Mastercard. My question is,
what's wrong with keeping with putting? I'm not saying the women are unreal, right? They're real.
That's fine. But what's wrong with using unrealistic women? What's the big deal? It's it's a game.
If you want to see real women, you go to the real world. You want to chill and play a game. You,
it's okay to see unreal women. What is wrong with that? I'm confused. Maureen, as you're a woman,
be careful with that, or you may be banned from the sisterhood, because other women have spoken up
with that same point, and they have been banned from all exclusive rights to the club.
That anything that offends, they will collectively shout at you, as the internet
collectively shouts back at them. So, have to be careful in these recorded spaces,
and I say that because a YouTuber and journalist who's a woman informed the new prime minister
of collective shout. And they're part of being a global agenda to basically get rid of content that
they deem is immoral by ironically pushing immoral content in the past,
which was related to money that they've taken. But that's just for journalism. So, Smoky J,
what do you got? Any thoughts on Visa, Mastercard? Are you throwing them out of your butcher shop?
No, I, I mean, we we accept Visa, Mastercard, Discover, Cardano, Angel tokens.
We we accept a lot here because we want to be inclusive of everybody. We feel
everyone deserves to eat good food. My thought is instead of going to war with these Karens
that have an issue with quote unquote unrealistic pretty women, that's Barbie.
People have bitched about Barbie doll being an unrealistic. If Barbie was an actual person,
she would have literally broken her back and fallen over because her body was not proportionate
to physics, and they changed her. So the games, instead of only offering, in my opinion,
the quickest easiest way out of this, is with AI and generating images.
Let the people start with a base body of small, medium, large, extra large, double XL,
and make their own dream woman, and then everybody's included. And then the people
that want to purchase can purchase what they choose to purchase, but everyone is is included.
You can have all races, all sizes, and then Karen has to shut up. Yeah, you you would think,
but now there are collective shout with political power. Interesting enough, again, Barbie, right?
Is is you know a little bit his quick going back on Barbie. If you don't know the history of Barbie,
Barbie ironically was a sex doll, and then the creator of the Barbie that we know saw this sex doll
and thought, "Hey, this would be a great kids' toy for girls." I don't know that line of thinking.
I think she's brilliant, but it's crazy when you actually look at the history of Barbie. And then,
yeah, to that point, is Barbie empowering, or is Barbie not empowering? Right. In one hand,
Barbie gets a bunch of different careers. A lot of people think there's nothing wrong with Barbie,
and the other kind you you have another set of people that are hating Barbie for everything
it stands. And I think that's that's the problem is that especially with the woke movement
and the the global liberal left, right. They have this like limiting mindset
where they pigeonhole themselves to certain specific ideas, and what happens is
they start churning each other in because their their their their moral compass gets so limited.
The moment you can't keep following that train of thought to some type of illogical conclusion,
then you're the wrong person. You know, this is one of the reasons as a you know a supporter
of second wave feminism, I got kicked out of the club because I was the wrong gender
when originally. Feminism was part of the equal rights movement to bring equality to everybody.
I said, "Well, that doesn't feel very equal." I got kicked out of the club for the wrong gender.
Feel very betrayed about that. But but anyway. What do you mean the wrong gender? I'm a man.
I'm not. I'm not a woman. So I can't. I shouldn't be in the Karen club. What? No.
But but if you support the movement, then you support the movement. I support the movement.
I don't support crazy. That that that's that's the problem. When the movement gets crazy.
Did you say something crazy? Did you say something against them, and they figured out you were
a man? The well, I yeah, I went to I went to college classes. I in high school,
I talked about women's rights. The girls had no clue. We're listening sexist music.
You are mansplaining! Oh my god! I know. I was mansplaining like a Karen mansplains. Okay.
That's what you. Before mansplaining was a thing. I know. Don't you ladies know who Susan B. Anthony
was? You're a trendsetter. Your right to vote. Okay, so on the Barbie thing,
I think it's really mean if my mother were to restrict me from watching Barbie movies.
I grew up with that stuff; it was so fun. Just let kids watch the stuff
and saying Barbie is not empowering. I don't let my kids watch it. I've seen that on the internet.
I'm like, whoa! Barbie is in love with the prince. So what? It's it's it's fine. Oh man,
I don't understand. Not to go too far down this rabbit hole, but collective shout is in support
of a certain aesthetic. That men and women should wear, and they have literally just gone out
of the way to say slurs targeting particular businesses, CEOs, fashion designers, and/or women.
To just with so you are wearing the wrong clothes. It's too revealing, and and it
and it's also bad for for business. So if you guys want some meme stock advice,
there's a meme stock. I think it's called. Is it American? No, Eagle Outfitters. I think it's
Eagle Outfitters. Eagle. Well, you can look into. I think it's Eagle Outfitters.
They have a actress. Oh god, I'm so bad at names. I can't remember this new actress. But basically,
this actress. They do the no-no shot. They they show the jeans, and they have a shot of her butt.
As she pats it naturally and drives into, she gets into a car and drives off. I think it's
American Eagle Outfitters, and I can't remember the actress's name. And to give the whole preference
of the scene, she's fixing the car. She's fixing the car. She's a car mechanic. Okay,
she's fixing her car. So she fixes her car. She closes the hood, and then she kind of pats her butt
to clean her hands of the dust in the car. And then she gets in the car and she drives off,
and the stock has gone up. So it's it's supposed to be a meme stock. I think it. I think it's
American Eagle Outfitters. So yeah, meme stocks are not good investments like meme tokens,
but because they hired a an attractive actress, that is boosting the stock.
So I don't know if we want to go further down this rabbit hole, but there you go.
There's some some financial advice from some other people. I'm not giving out financial advice,
but here you go. All right. Okay, so why is everyone always scared of giving financial advice?
I always say this is financial advice. I don't care if you get smoked. Um,
listening to a random girl on the internet about making financial decisions—it's not on me.
You gotta, you gotta protect yourself. Yeah, but yeah, you're not, you're not running a brand that
you're built, and I'm not knocking, and I'm not. I'm just like, are you building a brand?
Because if you're building a brand and you're telling people, "Oh, buy this," and they get wrecked,
like Bitboy did for years, it it can't come back to bite you. At least in the U.S.,
because they can go after you for. Shady, shady practice and misleading. If you were taking tokens
and then pumping that token and then dumping it on your your following, yeah.
If you buy into the token, there's a potential. I don't know if it's antitrust, but there's
potential conflict of interest, right? However, if you're not officially part of a company
or entity releasing said token or product, you're kind of in the clear.
I just kind of say it as a as a default. Oh, aping riots here. What's going on?
We we're we're going on a bunch of random stuff. You you missed out. You missed out on a meme stock
because a a woman slaps her butt. And famous actress who I can't name. I believe it's
America Eagle Outfitters. So that might be going up or going down at the point of this. Um,
and also, what are we talking? Is it Sydney Sweeney? We are. We yes, Sydney Sweeney.
Sydney Sweeney has has risen the stock of men. I mean, it's probably some female investors too.
I don't know, but I'm just yeah. That that's the just because of her her 10 second ad
has gone viral, and yeah, people are buying up the stock. So I don't I don't know
if it will keep going up. I like the brand. I don't wear it. It's harder for me to get it in in
North Korea. You're gonna get me saying North Korea all the time. Anyways, harder
for me to get it in Korea, the South Korea I live. But yeah, I'm not a fan of her work,
but I'm I'm happy that she's doing that. And again, it's um because everything is now anti woke.
They're they're trying to use the anti woke movement to sell stuff, which in terrible ways.
And now that's kind of part of the thing. So it's a signal to potential investors.
So getting away from the meme stock, it's a signal to potential investors.
Our company is basically going to do things that customers want and will sell in order
to make money, instead of pushing on an agenda or political message that they think is better
for overall society. And and you know, I guess as a formal liberal Democrat, I like the idea to.
And as a teacher, I like the idea of exposing people to positive ideas outside their comfort zone.
But at the same time, I don't like the way that you could force ideas on people.
I don't think that's a that's a good thing either. So there you go. Again, we'll see.
Anyone wants to comment and bring that in? I'm going down the agenda. It's all.
It's only gonna go downhill from here. What? Well, what? The stock? I don't know. Got it.
That's what I mean. I'm a holder of ridiculous things, right? If I got American Eagle stock,
I would just hold it, and hopefully every four months it would pay out a good dividend,
or at least every so often, you know, kind of like Angel Coin ADA pays out every month, you know,
a good percentage of Shill that again one more time. Okay, let's see. Looking on my timeline,
we talked about Cardano becoming more potentially monopolized. We talked a little bit about TGE.
So again, that's not a Cardano token. That token is an EVM20, but it passes
the Alex Becker smell test. It's got a good community. It's got a good narrative. It's got
good builders, and yeah, it could be something. Again, I'm not. My wife
's not planning to sell anything. We'll probably just probably keep getting more of those tokens
where they're staking platform, and we'll just see where that goes. I want to check out some
of their stuff. I thought we're supposed to just touch on that real quick. For me,
one of the things that's most exciting about them is they've been mining Bitcoin since 2012. Oh,
they have money. They're not. They're not. Yeah, they're not doing this for money.
They're not doing it to make a fortune. It's it's more of a passion thing for them, and a
and a a trying to help leave the world in a better place, and to be good ancestors. To like, for me,
I'm looking forward to. Cause you get two agents, so. My son has expressed some interest in it,
so I'm super pumped that I can introduce someone because I've been telling my kids about crypto
since I got in in 2020. And my oldest puts like 25 bucks a month into Bitcoin and Ethereum each,
and has been for a couple years. My middle kid got into some meme coins on Solana
and made a big bag, and then her boyfriend had control of the wallet and he fumbled it
and all kinds of bullshit. And then my son, God, dude, it was. I'm like, Abs, she's like, well,
we put it into his account. I was like, that don't ever do that again. Start your own wallet.
So I walked her through how to do a wallet. I'm like, write down your seed phrase,
and went through the process with her. I go, now tell him to send you your shit,
and he he didn't send it to her, and then he like lost it, and it turned into a big thing. Um. Okay.
Well, we'll go to AI stuff really quick if you want to. So the thing is, is that Taremecca.
You shout to Taremecca. Definitely follow him. He's got some really good stuff.
Working with him on something. Me, him, and my friend Grief Chief, who I've been working.
On Cardano projects for six years now, so I mean, five years. I've known it for six years.
Maybe it's three or four years. Time just flying. Well, anyway, Reef Chief got AI agents running off
his computer. He doesn't have the biggest graphics card, but yeah, he has localized AI agents
running on his computer, helping him code. You don't necessarily need the Think token to get have
your own decentralized agent. Most What not says most? There are a lot of good open source models
out there, like with China and land. Well, again, you get in the weeds.
Some people hate the the Meta Facebook stuff, but the point is, is there are
open source models that can help you do things on your computer. If you get a decent graphics card,
or even have a bad one, uh, you can get your own agent to do things on your uh computer locally.
The the prices might be pretty high to sell people. AMD has got one of the best price positions for
a thousand dollars. You can get their 790XD, and you can run a really pretty powerful agent
on your computer locally. And then the other thing is, is that that's compared to to Nvidia,
where their theirs has it's a little it's better on certain points, but it's
about three thousand dollars. So that that's the other thing. So there's there's a choice
between a thousand dollars to three thousand dollars. Now the other thing that
we've kind of been talking about is that okay, what if I got the thousand dollar GPU from AMD,
and I set up a server, and he could access it because sending things to his country is really hard.
As far as like, not I don't know if it's terrorists, but all the fees to send anything is really
ridiculously expensive. Sending him a thousand dollar card could be another like eight hundred
or nine hundred something dollars, and there might there might be not guarantees that it gets to him
on top of everything. I'm like, that sounds awful. So yeah, he doesn't need it right now, but yeah,
you could you could even have a server with one of those better cards,
and then people could access it. So I'm just throwing it out there. You don't necessarily need
a like the Think NFT have your own agents. You can have your own agents on here,
but the whole point of getting the the NFT is to access to their software.
And correct me if I'm wrong, Smoking J. It's to talk to other agents and or use other
like AI agent services, right? So yeah, the your agent will be access to the. Sorry,
I'm moving wristbands. To the the website to be able to do the building, and then everything,
they'll will be interoperable from there. As far as servers and graphics cards go,
the Mac Minis that came out, that Mac or Apple just came out with like a a server. They're like
fourteen hundred bucks, and it's doing amazing things as far as what it can run locally
when it comes to AI. Oh my gosh, that's because of their is it the M three chip?
I don't know if it's the M three chip, right? They they have like the best maybe. Yeah,
apparently they have the best CPU out on the market, but I have to double check
because I didn't know the Mac Mini is only fourteen hundred and it can it can be run as a server.
I can check that. And and the the way you can check how good it's gonna be is you look at
the token output per I think it's per second. So if you get like I don't know like a hundred tokens,
hundred twenty five tokens per second, you don't have to wait too long.
And and that's kind of the thing you're paying the bigger companies for.
You're paying the bigger companies money because they have the graphics cards,
they've got the servers, and they're providing a faster speed of AI output. But for that two x speed
or ten x speed that you're not getting potentially on on your home computer,
you're paying with it with them cloning you, potentially cloning you. And and not to get in
the realm of sci-fi, it's been documented already how they create, they have created
digital clones of all of us. So they use this thing called telemetry to guess the output
of your financial decisions and your behaviors. Like they literally digitally stalk you.
All this data digitally stalks you, right? So, so the fear that I think brings up is
potentially what happens when that data could be put into an AI agent that could start copying.
You in every regard, right? Instead of it being data trying to track you to figure out
how you would buy things, it could be data embodied in some type of AI agent that can start calling
your friends and family, right? Start acting like you in different ways,
and that's not having control on that. It's kind of the reasons why I got interested
in the whole thing and everything that they were doing, and also Smokey J talking about it.
I think for about a year on and off, kind of was probably probably helped there.
But let's talk some AI smack. We did some Cardano smack. Here's some AI smack for you guys and gals
and everything else between. Um, so going back to the the Google Google server thing,
OpenAI is now doing a partnership deal with to get Google servers, which again your head
just kind of spins. If if public servers or or these servers providers right can see All your data.
It's crazy to me that you go and partner with someone who could potentially see all the code
and how everything's working. Especially if you're like an AI company like OpenAI,
and their competitor is one of the competitors. It's Google. Is is is Google?
It's Google's AI services. I can't. I think it's called AI Studio or something like that. Right.
Prior to that, they had a special deal with Microsoft, which ironically Microsoft was also
a competitor to OpenAI. Microsoft, I believe, is one of the reasons why OpenAI was even started.
And Elon Musk was funding it because Elon Musk saw the same issue or problem with having
all everything being private AI, right, and controlled by private entities. So, yeah, the
how this relates to the conspiracies and I'm gonna say conspiracy from from other people that
I'm not citing. Forget forgive me for not citing my sources. I can cite one, which is Elon,
the computer guy, but the other sources I'm not citing because I'm just going off my brain.
The conspiracy goes as such: that OpenAI. Is basically buying part of the industry because they have
so much money by buying these servers or getting these these deals with Microsoft or Google.
They are they're buying a position, not just getting the use of their servers, right?
Because they could probably make their own servers or find something else that's cheaper.
The other part of the conspiracy, based on what he said, is OpenAI doesn't have shit.
Like it has things that work. But don't work at the level that they're supposed to. Now, really,
why? Why does Google servers prove this? Simple. Like I said, like we just talked about it.
Why would you have a competitor look at what you're doing as a company
unless you literally had nothing to hide? So that kind of leads to the thing: is that okay?
Are they just running their like public models? Okay, they're not. They're not running ChatGPT 5.
You know, okay, that makes sense. Or they don't really have something with a lot of the use cases.
They let people imagine. Based on Sam Altman going out into the world and telling everybody,
watch out for for AI. So there's another example of this. The I put in my timeline,
and I I checked with Cardano Slim on this about if businesses are actually adopting
artificial intelligence. So one of the examples that I was I was I was teaching to that exemplifies
this is that office work is not easily done by an AI agent. So even though they print
all these tests on how AI is doing really good on standardized testing,
AI just can't interact with the human world. So when you think like a secretary, right?
A secretary has all these different types of jobs, right? File management, scheduling, bookkeeping,
just all sorts of stuff, right? It's funny because the the AI just can't like say remind someone
that they have a meeting in an hour or so because maybe that person turns off their phone.
It's not like having a physical person go in the room and remind that hey, there's a meeting, right?
The file management is interesting because the AI can start potentially with file management
that's been built for it, but having to learn the different file management systems of
like an organization with with other people might be too hard for it, and so it's coming out
with a lot of errors, and or it's it starts to hallucinate like to keep its job. So yeah,
so there's the whole thing. There just might be too much hype and. The AI revolution
may not be taking over jobs as quickly as they were were hyping about.
I don't know if we're in a two year period, a five year period, or a ten year period,
but that is that's where AI is currently at. So, all right, we we we've lost someone on stage.
Morgan Jane, you're the only one I can bounce ideas off of. So so, what do you think about that?
Do you think that Sam Altman is full of crap, or do you think he's actually got something really
in the work here? I don't trust Sam Altman. I think scam Altman is one of the most vile,
shitty human beings on the planet, right up there with Bill Gates. But I'm a tin hat guy,
so take it with a grain of salt. But if he's teaming up with Google, it's only so he and his company
and his shareholders can benefit. There's there has to be a way that he profits off of it
or gains an advantage edge. It's not for the betterment of the growth of the industry
or the working people that use his products. That's a guarantee. And that is financial advice
or whatever kind of advice anybody wants to take it for. I would put my name on that. Why?
Why do you think Google said yes to this? Then, like, I don't know. I don't know what Google's take.
Do you think they just like money? Users. Users. Chat ChatGPT has more users than than they do.
I mean, I use my Google Assistant every day. For I, I Google, hey Google,
and talk to it all day long, telling it to start a timer for this or remind me for that
in twenty eight minutes or this that and the other. So I use it regularly,
but a lot of people don't look at that as using AI. But people use AI every day
and don't realize it. Got someone supposed to come? Oh, let's see. Oh, we've got Andrew Jewberg,
the cult member. I would love to get his thoughts on this stuff. Hopefully, he can come up.
I'm gonna be driving real quick, so I will transfer from Wi-Fi to regular. So if I drop,
I will request back up. Fantastic! Thank you so much for for hanging out
and just shooting the breeze with me, Andrew Juberg. Do you have any thoughts?
We covered the min swap situation. We talked a little about some EVM and think, and now we're on.
Catch me up. Catch me up on the min swap situation, boss. I want to know. Well,
or I have something to share myself. Okay. The funny thing with min swap in Spintron space,
I get credit where Spintrons does the research, is one of your favorite Cardano people.
John Kravitz was being positive and optimistic. He was he's being positive and optimistic.
He was like going, yeah, you know, doesn't mind min swap potentially not. Uh,
so here's the whole drama. Min swap is going to have their own aggregated, uh,
like service for finding token the best token prices. And even though, if I heard right,
C swap will not be part of those aggregation. Um, John is still he's pretty positive still.
Spentron's point, which he has a valid point, is that MinSwap is eating up their competitors,
like Bill Gates was eating up his competitors back in the day. And ironically, Melon,
who's also without his controversies related to DexHunter, is going to be swallowed whole
and not in a good way, potentially by MinSwap, because MinSwap might have more users and so forth
and so on. Minswap's token is still in the dumps, with tin foil hat on.
They're probably getting money from other people, right? Keeping the lights on
and and probably losing a lot of money in the process. Again, those are tin foil. Hold on, timeout.
You think Minswap is not profitable? I I I think it might not be as profitable because.
Of the way that that things are being done, so I'm not saying how do I should put this.
I think it might be an Amazon situation. They they might have like a runway of x amount of years
before they actually start making lots and lots of money. Oh, you mean like every crypto project?
Yeah, yeah. Okay, I get that. Except for Angel Coinada, which is actually succeeding.
I know way more about this part of things than I'm allowed to share. I will start with this much.
Min swap is profitable. Mintswap actually is controlling a large, in fact,
vast majority share of like all trading volume on Cardano still. So, if Mintswap is not profitable,
no project here would be. I'm gonna point that out right now. I have seen metrics behind this.
There's a reason Mintswap doesn't necessarily need support through governance.
It's because they're actually making money, guys. That said, they still utilize governance. I may
or may not be a fan of how they do that, but It is what it is. This is the ecosystem
we have developed for them. Let me ask you, Title. What alternatives do we have? Well,
to to that to that point, there there are alternatives that were mentioned,
but my thing is is that if they are the the apple of Cardano, and we can easily refer people
to them, right, with the cleanest services, then it'll help for Cardano adoption.
I mean that that is what it is. Yes. Right. It should be, and and on top of that.
Something I do want to talk about it in a little bit. I'll get into that.
They're also the cheapest because they have the deepest liquidity pools. Their fees—they in fact,
what they got rid of their batcher fee altogether. So, and if you hold Minswap tokens, which
like I do, it makes your fees even cheaper. So, there's a lot of incentives that they built into
their platform and utilizing their platform. Most of my DeFi liquidity farming
has either been done by them or LQ. Those have been the only two platforms that have stuck it out
through all this, and in my honest opinion, are profitable. So, I got no ill will towards Minswap
on that. And yeah, I mean, I'm kind of curious just to hear, you know,
what some of the devil's advocate like. What are people who are unhappy with men swap saying?
And maybe you can fill me in on that. Well, Spentroff's the only one really that that I heard
why he was unhappy with it. He's he's unhappy. Spentroff's been unhappy with uh with men swap for
a long time, largely because of the way men swap votes in community stuff like Catalyst.
But as a men swap holder, I did some math with some of the other guys.
We actually get like 40 times the voting power from holding men swap tokens than we do from
holding ADA. Because Minswap allows people who hold their Minswap tokens to vote for who
their voting power is going to go to. Does that make sense? Oh, that so that around the time
of the voting stuff, there was I don't know I don't think it was a Minswap intern. They have a DAO.
The Minswap has a DAO. Okay, okay. They allow Minswap holders to come in
and vote for what proposals they want Minswap to vote on. Does that make sense? That's but that
but how recent is that though? This has been this way since Fund. Well, I first used it in
Fund Eleven. I'm pretty sure Minswap was doing this beforehand. I was late to the party.
Interesting, interesting. Okay, because like again, I remember having someone on
when I was checking into the governance that was related to Minswap. He used to work at Minswap,
and that was a big conversation. He said that that a group of them were having was
how do you kind of not depower Minswap, but how do you make Minswap's power more equitable
to other people? So yeah, but that's not really how our governance system is set up, right?
It allows for Smart contracts to be used on chain and the voting power of smart contracts
to be used on chain, right? Like all the other platforms have been doing this.
I actually am against this being a thing. It's one of the reasons why I wanted
us to have limitations on what ADA could and could not vote or participate in governance.
I was told, in fact, that that would be wrong because then we're allowing people to be censored
and we're censoring certain UTXOs and certain ADA, and they didn't want to do that.
So this is what we're given, and how our governance system works under Cip 1694 and Voltaire.
So we can complain about it, but They've worked out a way that both benefits their holders
and benefits the ecosystem as a whole, and is allowed by the code. You get what I'm saying? Gotcha,
gotcha, gotcha. That's good. All right, fantastic. All right, now on this topic,
I actually want to pivot just a little bit to other exchanges. I'm about to pin up something
to the top. I don't know if you guys have saw this yet, but we have other stuff going on
when it comes to exchanges, but this is more treasury related. I'll start out with saying,
as these treasury withdrawals come out, there's little to no process in place for like.
How the management of these treasury funds will be taken care of. So, pinned to the top of thread.
This is a repost of Quantum Pie's post regarding the Amaru treasury withdrawal. Now,
I have some problems with this title, and I'm going to get into them. One,
the person managing these funds, Quantum Pie, is directly affiliated with Sunday Swap, the exchange.
All right, here you go. Sunday Swap, despite having lower liquidity pools of USDM,
which is another project that Charles Hoskinson is directly affiliated with,
you'll start to see the connections here in a second. Basically, Charles invested in Sunday Swap.
Charles invested in USDM, which is Moneta, and for whatever reason, our treasury withdrawals
now being managed by Pi are coming out of the treasury in Ada, then being swapped via Sunday Swap
at a five to six percent slippage. So we're losing five to six percent of all the funds.
As we're swapping them on Sunday, because we're choosing to swap them on Sunday
with lower liquidity, right? We should be using MinSwap. To be honest, they have
bigger pools of USDM and it'd be cheaper. He knows this and explained himself by saying that he's
more familiar with Sunday Swaps tools. Of course you are, because you built them.
So this is unfair on a number of levels, but I just want to remind you guys,
this makes all Treasury withdrawals coming out of the Cardano Treasury triple taxed.
Intersect is taking a five percent fee for auditing and management. Then
if we're having to have them swap through Sunday Swap with a five to six percent slippage loss
on all funds, plus a transaction fee from Sunday Swap, bro, like, what are we doing, bro? Like,
they're not even choosing the best route to save money. They're choosing the route that pays them
and their platforms the most. MinSwap is the best option still. So, yeah,
we really need to like stop doing this. I don't, I don't get it. Like, at the end of the day,
most people dislike MinSwap title because the way MinSwap has voted and used their voting power.
But it's within the bounds of the code. If the code allows it, code is law, right?
I thought that's
how this works. At least that's what everyone told me when I complained about the voting system.
No, just read that thread real quick. Read the thread. You don't have to take me at my word.
Just look. He splits the order into 20 different orders, each of 5,000 ADA.
Total lost was about five to six percent. That's thousands of dollars worth of shit just to swap it
on a certain platform to a certain stablecoin, both of which. The people behind this project are
heavily involved. Like it's just not fair. Did didn't min swap also lose like
five thousand dollars though? I guess that that's not as much. What do you mean? Oh, there's no.
It's not nearly as much. Yeah. No. In fact, in fact, if you if you go to there's a post here.
I have a post here somewhere. Exactly. Uh, where you you actually see Bob Corn Ada asking for
information in regards to all of this because he's asking, hey, why do you have to swap it to USDM?
Uh, and then Pi explains himself with, in my opinion, less than stellar. Yeah,
this is not this is not how this supposed to work, bro.
This can't. We can't be doing this to ourselves, bro. Like,
I'm gonna find it. I'm just looking for Bob Corn Ada's post. Yeah, send it so I can I can put
and post it on the top. I will. Okay, I guess I'll I will read and fill in the dead spacer.
This this swap executed over the span of 20 minutes and other trade activity on the pool brought
the price back into range. By splitting the order, we were able to reduce the slippage experience,
something we prioritized after feedback from the community. I'll also note,
since I didn't call this out in the past tweets, that the transaction fees
and protocol fees are being paid out of pocket by the person submitting the order,
not from treasury funds. The journal. How is that acceptable? Not from treasury funds. Come on,
that's why it's acceptable. The journal on GitHub has been updated appropriately.
I summarized the nineteen transactions where the order was executed by Sunday Protocol
into one entry. So you can actually check the GitHub on the thing and the Cardano Explorer.
He put links to these. Oh, he did great as far as like providing the actual information,
the links directly to it. But as Bob Corn pointed out in this tweet pinned up to the top,
I wouldn't call losing five thousand USDM on the first trade recently a fortune. Oh my god! Like,
what the fuck are we doing, bro? Just remember, it's five percent coming out by intersect
for auditing and management. Right. Then we're losing another five to six percent in slippage.
And then, by the way, each transaction requires a separate transaction fee.
And then the platform fee is under. And yes, he said that they paid that out of pocket. However,
he also said that they left a certain amount of ADA as liquid ADA. So, like,
how are we gonna know whose ADA was whose? Was this your personal Ada?
Was this the Ada that was left in that? In that case, did you recoup that? You get what I'm saying?
Like we don't even have treasury management tools for this sort of shit.
We can't prevent failures like this. Like it's impossible to prevent this.
And if the rationale for losing five to six thousand dollars per trade is that you feel
more comfortable with that exchange because you helped build it, that's a bullshit ass excuse, man.
Like you're not managing your money. You're managing treasury funds,
and that needs to be done the cheapest, most austere possible way. That money,
you're saying it's min swap, bro. That money, that yeah, it's definitely min swap.
Look at their liquidity pools, bro. They're deep as fuck. You can right now execute an order
for a hundred thousand USDM right now on min swap, and you're not even losing anywhere
near that percentage. Like, you see the the screenshot at the top? Like, yeah, I'm looking at this.
Ah, bro. You know, you know what's scary? You know what's? It's really sad because I've been
I've been fucking around. Thanks, smoking Jay, fucking around with Ethereum,
and I I I came from Ethereum to Cardano to avoid gas fees. When I look at this,
I'm thinking it's like Ethereum gas fees. Um, I don't want to talk about gas fees because, man,
it's yeah. These are the sort of things we can change now that we have governance.
But I've noticed more people are interested in governance for like treasury withdrawals rather
than parameter changes. I was really excited about governance because we could change the K,
we could work on lowering the transaction fees, we can maybe adjust the stake emissions. Like,
there's a lot of things we can change about the protocol now. But this has just kind of become like
a money cuball. I was scared of this last year. You heard me kind of getting worked up about it over
a year ago. So. I feel like Nostradamus right now, though. That is an interesting feeling.
Seeing a lot of the the shit that I was like, "Hey, this is gonna be crazy if this happens this way,
" and it's totally going this way. Oh my god! Okay, all right. Anything else I want to share about
this? And thanks for sharing this, man. No, no, that's all. I just thought it was interesting,
and I think it's worth more of the community paying attention to. There's two other things I feel
like the community should look at because they're useful, but this is way more positive stuff.
So I'll leave these up here with you guys, Christian Taylor from the Open Source Committee.
At Intersect, they've got a proposal in. Honestly, out of all my time at Intersect,
the open source committee was probably the most well-functioning and best designed.
They've put forward a system that allows for community input and assisting them managing
open source repos. And you'll be able to be paid for this. So, oh yeah, it's very useful.
I encourage all developers in the ecosystem to take a look at this proposal. Tell your D rep,
please vote on this. They're not having as much support as I expected them to have,
considering it's so well put together and something we need. We do have a lot of open source repos
in Cardano that have been left unattended for two to three years, sometimes. And you know,
getting our developers on that and helping them keep these repos up to date is going to be
really useful for you know just connecting developers with tools and making sure
they're not having to redevelop shit that's already been done. So check that out.
I pinned that up to the top. And then lastly, there's one by Discover Cardano.
It's a marketing proposal. This proposal is not receiving the support that I wished it would have,
but definitely check it out. They've essentially come with an events proposal budget
and a few other marketing things with a cheaper price tag than our intersect marketing committee and
the Cardano Foundation has come up with. It would be canceling the Cardano Summit,
which I'm all for because it was a huge waste of money. Once I got to see all that,
we lose money on those events by the way every year. I I was in the marketing committee
when we were going over all the analytics, and Andreas and his team from the CF came through
with that. It's not it's not good for most of us, so. I would recommend people check out
this Discover Cardano proposal. Even stuff like the ETH Denver and all these other events that
Intersect is planning on attending, the Discover Cardano team has put the proposal together
for like one fifth the cost of each of these events, and they have the booth experience.
So I support them. They've got a team of content creators, editors, video creators,
like all that shit. So I I like these guys. When I left the Intersect Marketing Committee,
they debriefed me on everything. They asked what I felt like needed to be changed,
and I feel like their proposal well encompasses the challenges we faced
and were unable to overcome in Intersect. So, I I do support this proposal as well, and I encourage
more people to look at it. But that's it, bro. I hope I hope that was informative.
I may not be around Cardano as much in the spaces, but I'm still reading.
I still follow along with everything, and still building. Unfortunately.
Quick quick shout to Pete Jones, ADA Advocate. I just like the name so. Hopefully you don't scam me.
I'm I'm kidding about that second part. I hope you're not serious. If you are, uh, uh, Andrew,
we got a couple other. I got another thing. Um, so summon's platform, right?
I guess that's old news, right? The summon's platform rug. How old is that? You know,
it didn't really rug. They um, I mind you, summon got funding in 2022 or 2023.
It's the only time they were ever funded. They had a pretty big team early on. They did an an ISO
or whatever for their token launch. That may have been the rug, so to speak,
them selling a token to us. That's gonna be worthless now. But they're closing up shop
because bros on. I mean, I've talked to Riley a good bit, and some of the other team members
from Summon, they had no chance at competing with Clarity. Like, I don't know if you checked out
Clarity DAO. They have, yeah, they have the same sort of tooling. They have the Agora DAO set up.
They have governance stuff, and they even have a deeper set of tools. They came in
with a lot more money. I think that the Summon team made the right call. I just hope,
and I've asked Matt about it. Like, hey, are you guys gonna like keep these tools open source?
Are you gonna like hand these over to maybe the open source committee or whatever?
They're not trying to like rug and leave their community empty-handed, but I mean,
this is the way it should work in business. When you know that it's not sustainable,
why should you keep applying for funds and then be subsidized to exist here
when you could just go move on to get different jobs? I mean, look at the team, right?
All the team members of Summon have other jobs now. Right, right, right, right, right. Best
for them to close up shop, hand it off. It sucks for the holders. I'm
a pretty big Summon token holder. Freddie, another big Summon token holder. Jimmy. Yeah,
so sucks for us, but honestly, that's the way business should end. You know, it should be announced.
It shouldn't be a soft rug. You shouldn't keep seeing them pursuing funding
and then close up shop five years later after they milked us for eight catalysts.
You get what I'm saying? So I got you. You ready for this? They ran out of their runway.
Abstract Potato might be building a multi sig wallet. Have you heard about this? That would be dope.
Yeah, I was in the Tater space the other day. I was telling him my problems with Game Changer
right now. That's who I use the multi sig stuff for. It works great. The problem I have with
Game Changer is just a lot of my NFTs and tokens. Are really old and some of them are like
no longer supported. When you're dealing with multisigs and smart contracts like that,
it can gunk up your transaction and tell you that you have like invalid UTXOs
or locked UTX all sorts of shit. So I'm having some trouble right now with the Game Changer
platform, and I did express those concerns to Tater so that he knows like, hey, try
and make it so that no matter what the NFTs or tokens held in the wallet are,
they're not gonna be blocked from you know putting a transaction together.
The transaction builder is what doesn't work for me right now on GC. Do you think start Do you think
Starch is a is a good project that's gonna Be here for a while, though. Yes. Okay. In fact,
and this is Alpha right here. One of the last things I was working with IOG on was something called
the DRep Collective, and this is something that feeds into Ben O'Hallahan from IO.
He's got a plan for what's called ecosystem mapping. I was helping them write the SIP for that.
That's ecosystem mapping metadata, and it would tie directly into DReps projects,
all sorts of other shit, and allow people to essentially fill out a metadata format.
The same sort of way JSON 721 is for the NFTs, right? Right. Except the fields would be stuff
that are like, where do you live? What language do you speak? What's your focus here?
And this is something that, through proof of attendance, which is what that's
what Starch is—proof of attendance—to some sort of proof of attendance platform,
we would be able to essentially incentivize or reward people for keeping these updated at
a regular interval. Their metadata, right? Ben found out about Starch during his meeting in Japan.
He met with Barishoski, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And dude, they went ham about this.
I actually got a bunch of pictures of their whiteboards they were putting together
while they were there. I think Ben is learning a lot from Tater, and I think that that proof
of attendance stuff on a Cardano blockchain as an L2 has a ton of potential. If I were you guys,
I would be paying very close attention to Starch and who's working with them. So,
so a couple things relate to that. If the the multi sig would work.
This would probably be connected to the Stark token via some type of ecosystem, right?
If you had to guess, speculation. Or did he mention that in the in the space? No thumbs up.
So that's kind of how Summon worked, where like to do a transaction on their multisig,
you had to submit certain amount of tokens, essentially of Summon. I don't know if that's a good.
Or sustainable mechanism. Right. Does that make sense? Yeah, definitely. So, at the end of the day,
though, I have the utmost faith in devs like Abstract because he thinks things through
and then tests them with other really high quality devs. So, I support them.
I know that he's got a good team of advisors and people built around him.
But definitely keep an eye on those proof of attendance concepts. I think
that the ecosystem mapping thing that Ben and IOG is working on is going to end up becoming
some sort of proof of concept L2. I don't know if this is something that they'll partner directly
with Tater Chain for, or if they'll have to make it something new. Because Ben's end goal.
Is to see an L2 that can act as like a research portal for all blockchains,
where like the proof of attendance is coming in and putting in metrics and filling out data
and everything like that, right? So this would make—I forget the research company.
There's a research company Cardano pays every year to do like a big research report. Hey, calm down.
Leave the cat. Leave the cat alone. Hey, calm down. Gotta go for that cat against the bull market.
I'm sorry, bro. People crazy. Yep, four year olds messing with my grandma's old cat. Oh, I'm sorry.
No, calm down. Calm down. It's okay. They know the bull market's coming. They're getting excited.
It is, bro. It's coming. And you know how I can tell it's coming? The amount of people
getting scammed, bro. Like, like the when look. When I first came to crypto,
it was like the tail end of the bull market. I was seeing all the wallet drains.
People talking about some. My account got hacked. This and that. I really didn't see any
of those posts for like the last two three years. They're back, and these social engineers
are really working on it. Whenever you see the scammers like out in full force,
you know the bull runs here. So that's I'm gonna stick with that. So I want to put this out here:
the mint offer for the 25% off on the Start One Mint site. It is it's gonna end in
like less than four hours. There's only three hours and 41 minutes left of this.
Don't know if I can wake up my wife. 120M, smack around. Tell her it's time we go buy
some starch miners. Um, I was a little scared of the ecosystem. I mean, I didn't get in earlier.
Some people got in much cheaper price points. But are are you mining starch? No. Okay. Yeah.
What do you think of the starch miners in proof of attendance, right? Because I mean,
but for the record, for the record, I had starch miners. I had to sell them in January to pay for
a lawyer, so I'm out of the starch game. But the SLR pool has applied twice to become starch pools,
and a lot of our guys still mine starch. Guys like RC and a few of our cats over here at SLR.
But yeah, it's one of my favorite projects. As soon as I got the funds,
I'm jumping right back into it. I want. How's the performance though? Like as far as I mean,
it only matters when you've got it like pulled up on your PC. But it was great.
I could run all my other tabs and have it in the background on my laptop, though. So like, okay.
So it was proof of appendant kind of. It's scary. That scares me because that sounds like
a time thing. Do you remember Cookie Clicker? The game Cookie Clicker. Yeah.
That's that's the vibes I got. Cookie Clicker vibes. So funny. I don't know if I have the time.
I mean, it's good. It's useful like that. You know. I know, but I gotta hire my daughter to click
this thing or something. I don't know, like. And there was that. There was a controversy
where people are borrowing miner power. Do you remember hearing about that or no? No.
There was an exploit where you could take someone else's unused miners
and then do the proof of attendance. So I'll throw out there. Oh, there's another thing
that could be done possibly with this too. If it is like Cookie Clicker,
maybe you could create
an AI agent to just play the game while you're gone, right? And automate automate the process.
I mean, the miners are only running when you have it like the tab pulled up, right?
You can have it in the background and it'll still be running, but they only okay. Okay,
tab is pulled up. So, so so not like Cookie Clicker. So you don't. Yeah, no, no,
it is like Cookie Clicker because you remember Cookie Clicker is only on if you have that tab pulled
up. It's a browser game. But you could click for extra cookies. Can I? Yeah,
I don't think I don't think you can. I don't think that there's anything like that.
I don't think not not off the top of my head. What I was doing is I just had a few miners,
but if you get I want to say ten miners or eight miners, you can open a company.
And you can have up to like fifty miners on that. I heard about that, and I think that's what
the exploit was. People that had the start company were borrowing other people's NFTs to go mine
for them. Yes, yes, that's actually smart though, because if you're maxing out your company, right,
with miners, you get a yield increase, like percentage wise. So. Okay, so so here's my thing.
Did you have honestly? Copy the cornucopia nodes work similarly too. Cause with copy nodes,
it's like the file nodes. At least you can have an individual node, or you can run like
eight to ten. I can't remember, and then you can run a node company, and other people
can delegate to your nodes, and you can max out at like fifty or a hundred or something like that.
And that's a really good way to earn copy tokens. So I am using those still. But yeah,
that's that's like, I think those my blockcross nodes. I think only four nodes
I had didn't get sold. So so did did you have a starch company, or just a starch miner? No,
I was delegated to Damian starch company. I think. Oh, see, so you definitely need a starch company.
Yeah, yeah, it increases your yields too when you're delegated to somebody else's starch company.
Can you have one starch miner and one starch company? I think 49 empty slots.
I think you have to have that limit of like eight, four, five, something like that.
You have to have a minimum to even run a company, though. So this is this is
why this is hard to wake up my wife and get her excited about this. Because like,
go go read the docs, bro. Go read the docs. Like I I got the cop the copy file node stuff pulled up
right now, but that's because I was already working with one of my devs about that. Um,
I'd have to go find the starch potato stuff, but dude, it's all in his docs.
That's how I set mine up. I'm I'm just saying that in order to get into this,
my wife would have to move her position from the Angel Coin ADA to go and take advantage of the sale
at this point. You understand the thing? So I'm probably missing out on the sale.
Because like I mean, dude, the Angel Coinatus, it's been good rewards, dude.
You understand what I'm saying? But I I have to double check starch prices.
But with all the hype on on abstract potato, Jesus fucking Christ, this shit could could run.
You know, Berberskowski has made more money here, percentage wise, because he just makes
more money than me in general, right? But um, he's made more money on Cardano than anyone
I've known, right? Quote unquote. I know two people who made more than him. Oh yeah. Yes.
I think I think maybe Commander. Would be one person, but that'd be like a that's a shot. I don't.
Yeah, that's a guess. I I don't. I know for a fact, though, of two people who made over a million
here, and these are people I've worked with. So, okay, okay. Like their tax bills,
their tax bills were higher than like all my earnings in the last three years combined. But well,
that's the thing. So Barry Barrys has made in the millions, right? I'm not sure. Like I said,
I only know of for a fact two people who broke that million here. But you know,
it took like an insane amount of like one of them they they did almost they did
almost fifteen thousand policy ideas in order to get that amount of bread. Oh man,
it it it it's just too much of a gamble, man. You know, um, ninety percent of my wallet have been
bad gam. But you know, ironically, if if my if my stats are correct, you know,
people I I've talked to said then that's winning, right? That's a that's a freaking funny part.
If you're 10% right, 9% hold on a second. Bella, hey, calm down. I want to
I want to talk real quick, and I'm about to get off, and we can draw, okay? All right,
here's what here was my game plan title, and I made 60 grand here. All right, Jesus, okay.
This is this is how I did it though, right? My first purchase like that made me any money. At first,
I was down bad on it was LQ. I had bought LQ tokens because I was given some when I got onboarded.
This is when LQ was like three or four ADA pop. It was pretty high. But I got one
of those Aqua Farmers. I had bought a rare Aqua Farmer, like. My second NFT ever.
I think it was like my sixth city NFT, and then I got a fucking aqua farmer.
My aqua farmer allowed me to get increased yield on LQ. So that means all the LQ tokens I had,
I staked on their platform. I held that shit there for like two and a half, almost three years.
Made a lot of money like that. I kept adding to it. Hosky, buying hosky token,
buying hosky NFTs early on. I was given a few of those, and then me and some of my friends
from SLR had bought a bunch of them, and we pulled them all into one wallet
and had that wallet staked to Bone Pool. That means we've been earning Hosky on the Bone Pool thing
for like two years now. That's printed us a good bit of money. Clay Nation.
We only made money when we sold the tokens when they pumped. But since then,
we've essentially recouped all of the money we've ever spent on all of our clays. We have like seven
or nine Clay Nation NFTs, and we've been earning the clay tokens until they literally like ended
the reward schema for them. I think those went for three years for their OGs, and then
three years for their GCs. There was zero awards for the baked nations.
We picked up two of those anyways. Cardano lands. Through that platform, all of our bullshit JPEGs,
like Landwales, the Juke Boys you see me with, Box Girls, the things like that we minted
and we got utility for, but has kind of since faded out. Cardano Land still provides rewards
for a lot of those NFTs. So, a lot of our accounts under So Litty, we manage all
of our artist wallets with those. That's like. 3,000 NFTs that are earning
fucking rewards on Cardano lands regularly. You know what I'm saying? So shit like that. Min swap,
buying the Min swap tokens, and then earning Min swap tokens on our liquidity pools for the tokens
that we got. So like fight token and a few other different ones. We manage our liquidity pools
there. As we're earning Min tokens, we put them back into the Min staking, right?
And that earns us more yield. You get what I'm saying? So like, there's been ways like this
we've done it. The Block Frost stuff pays like 30 something ADA every month. It's not much.
Angel tokens that's every 15th, and then we had three Gutenberg Bibles. We were given one.
And then our team bought two others, so we ended up earning a lot of the stuff tokens like that
in the airdrops, like just shit like that, bro. We made money, you know.
I'm saying the Clarity raids when the Clarity platform first came out,
they did a decreasing yield schema for those raids. I think the first four months of raids, me
and my team scraped like twenty something bands out of there in Clarity tokens. So, you know,
like there's money to be made if you're here willing to go through the process, do the work,
do the research, and take the risk. Right. I got a lot of guys right now who are using
the Mallard Order platform. Forget that Raiders Guild. They use Raiders Guild,
and that's small dividends, but you can just kind of build them up in your account
before you claim them. Drip drops. Early on, we used drip drops individually until we did the math
and we were losing money. So we switched up how we were doing it. Greed Malcoin,
you may remember him, OG name right there. He actually had a tutorial video three years ago on
how to maximize your multi drip. We watched that and then reassessed all
of our different stake pools. We got our different projects staked to specific stake pools.
And holding the NFTs that give them rewards. So a good example for that would be like Nmaker had
the Seaplane NFTs. Nmaker tokens are worthless now, but for a while there they were printing,
and we were earning extra yield by being staked to Nmaker stake pool with our our Seaplane NFTs
in that wallet. And we had to have a minimum of like 100 ADA there. And then every drip drops
multi drip, multi drip makes it cheaper. Hey, what did I tell you? Stop. Okay.
Multi drip makes it cheaper for you to drip on multiple wallets. It only takes 100,000 drip
drops tokens, which is like seven dollars worth of drip drops tokens now.
And then you can put up to twenty or twenty five wallets on there. That's how I do it. Wow!
I do drip drops for the entire Solidity team all at one time. It's cheaper.
It may take like eighty ADA, but a lot of times we're earning hundreds in rewards for this.
So you just got to make sure that your stake, your staked to the right stake pools for certain NFTs.
You know which NFTs are providing staking rewards and yield. I have a big spreadsheet.
This is what I use to keep track of all that. But like I said, man, I've earned,
I've earned the guys, man, six figures total. It's like sixty bands myself, so. But it took years,
right? And most of this stuff, people didn't just tell me about. I saw one tweet, and I was like,
"Hey, let me go read more about this." And then I'd read about the GitHub,
and then I may be one of the only 14 people who actually are staked to the stake pool with my NFTs,
and then I'm getting a huge percentage of the token. You get what I'm saying? Like shit, like that.
Yeah. It does pay to be an early adopter. Nice, nice, nice, man. Hey, real quick,
any any updates on Fight Token? Uh, we are continuing on with the Fight DAO, the Fightcast, man.
We just did what episode 31, I think. So we've been doing those weekly, nonstop. I think where fight
where are fightcasts on YouTube, YouTube, Discord, Twitter. You can go to the fight Discord.
You can go to the fight Twitter. We stream them live. We multicast those,
but they're on the Liberty Project YouTube channel on YouTube. All right. Yeah.
So we're still doing all those. Izzy and Dunamas have man really kicked it up a notch on that.
I think the fight stuff is going to be something I push more into these days, just
because it's honestly like. Over at Fight, we're not happy with Donald Trump right now
because he's trying to protect pedophiles. So we got to find some other way to like push
this fight narrative. And I think that the governance battles here in Cardano are a good place
to start. I'm just not sure how much Dunamus feels comfortable. Like, bro,
it's toxic as fuck being involved in any governance stuff. So you know, we're up in the air on that.
But if you have any ideas and you want to share with them, you know, just pop in the Discord,
holla at Dunamus, shoot him a DM. You know, he's an OG, bro. He's been around forever. And yeah,
I mean, I got faith in this dude. One quick thing, you can totally start drawing with your daughter,
but there are apparently benefits to small businesses out of the Donald Trump Big Beautiful Bill.
So you might want to might look into those if you don't. I'm already in.
I'm already in the Florida SBA program. I'm going through something called the SCORE platform.
It's a program for small business entrepreneurs, small business owners to get connected with
resources, experts, and they're teaching us all sorts of stuff. Like the course I just did was on
tax filings. So I'm doing all that. Three new things coming in though.
That I'm just trying to get our business position to get ready for like a lot of these SBA grants.
That's what I'm trying to do. That's fantastic, man. Thanks for popping in. Anytime, bro.
Y'all have a blessed one. Keep keep hosting. Shout out to my boy down there, Lord Pete, Jimmy Bones,
Ada Advocate, Tara Mecca Man, and and Jay. Hey, tell Jay I said hey. I hate I hate I missed him,
but I'm gonna hop up off here down to listener so I can spend time with the kiddo. Right. Um.
I think that might be. I think we touched on everything. I like doing these agendas.
Nothing keeping up on here. Let me double check on the agenda. I think we hit them all. I
and I love the randomness, right? Because you have the agenda, you can pop in and out. Ideally,
been following the same stuff that people like, you know, Shagrax come in
and and just it just updates everything. Let's see here. I'm gonna check this real quick.
Been doing a lot of reposts in here, and all right. So we covered Minswap.
We covered what's going on with Starch. Covered Angelcoin ADA giving more rewards better
than most BTC projects. Covered the EVM Think token has just launched. So again,
there's a lot of interesting stuff. I want to thank the Smoking J for for kept talking about that
as I get getting more interested in AI. So that was that's amazing. I've got to go
and do the steak thing. There's a couple things are left. Let's see, FlexPoint Studio
had some type of announcement. Let's see if I can check on FlexPoint. See if I can find exactly what
it was. No impact with agents. Gosh darn it! I'm gonna. It's like lost in my feed.
I've got to find a better way. I try to use Grok. Ironically, the cheap one, not the AI girlfriend,
Grok. I don't have three hundred dollars to throw away on that, and I try to get my notes on here.
But there was something that was happening with, um, gosh, all right, let's see, hold on,
let's see if I can find it. Flexpoint Studio had some type of announcement.
I can't find it right now. Looking through my news feed, there's more Abstract Potato,
Abstract Potato, more Think Agents. Oh well. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Here, here, hold on. Here,
I found it finally. Okay. Huge Fluxpoint Studio Hal giveaway. That was the thing. That's right.
The handle giveaway. Uh, US is a hundred Hal. I don't know, Florid. If you want to come up on this,
I think you've been following Handle. I so if you've got some free time,
I'd love to get your uh thoughts on this because you've been following Handle for a while.
There's going to be whitelist spots, one rare Hal, sub handle to giveaway,
and then a hundred K multi asset Hal NFT legendary handle. So again, I I don't know
if NFTs are coming back. Uh, Spintron thinks NFTs are coming back. Potentially going through
Ethereum NFTs are back apparently. There's been a lot more activity on the Ethereum market,
so hopefully get triple down effect like before. But yeah, Handle and this new Hal NFT is pretty.
Oh, oh, I think we got. Please be Lord. Please be Lord. Yes. All right,
now we just got to pray to the Elon God that his technology doesn't break. Lord,
can you come through and speak? Lord, Lord, are you with us? Testing, testing, one, two.
Can you hear me? No, we can hear you, Lord, and Claire. Hey, excellent. Well, first of all,
good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are, wherever you might be.
You called me out. I was just about to leave the house. I got the day off, man.
I was in the shower while listening to you and Shaggy speak, man. Shout out to Shaggy Racks.
He is the future of Cardano. Y'all make sure y'all follow him if you're not doing so already. So,
how in the Handle project? So Handles is finally going to build out their own ecosystem,
and so you know with a marketplace and auction. And you muted. Got strike down.
Hopefully didn't drop. Can you hear me? Now I can hear you now. Can you hear? Okay,
where where did I cut off it? I'm sorry. Cut off like something about its own marketplace, I guess.
And yeah, yeah, they're building a marketplace, building out a whole ecosystem and auction house.
Um, also they're going cross chain with BTC. Which if you've been personalizing any of your handles,
you've noticed that they've had the uh, uh multi chain uh option on there where you can put uh
Bitcoin address onto your handle when you personalize it. Well, what they're doing is
they're finally building out with these NFTs that are gonna be basically a premium membership NFT,
which is gonna give you all kinds of discounts and various other perks later on
that they'll announce for their ecosystem as a whole. So their plans are still kind of under wraps.
They're they're like trickle trickle feeding us all the information. The
how NFTs themselves are gonna be their handle augmented life forms is what they call them, right?
And they're gonna be a 3D gaming Avatar as well as some other stuff. Yes,
that's what I was very interested in. So, yeah, I knew you'd like that part.
I knew you'd like that one. Yeah, Decimalist again. For those who may have forgotten,
Decimalist is behind Flexpoint Studios. Decimalist is heavily into AI.
I can't remember the what's the AI he put on Cardano. Do you remember the AI put on Cardano? Yeah,
was it Talos? Not Talos. Yeah, Talos. Talos. Was it Talos? Agent T. It's not Talos anymore.
It's Agent T now. Okay. They had to drop the Talos. So, so yeah, he's he's pretty good
with the AI stuff. I don't know how decentralized his AI stuff is, but he's pretty good
with integrations. And so when I saw this post, I thought two things: gaming
and potentially AI agent stuff, right? So I don't know if he's like, like it's gonna be weird.
I think it's kind of a digital soul, kind of like the stuff that the think agents are doing,
but in a different iteration of that. And handle might be a part of this,
where you have an identification system. And it's connected to an NFT that's connected to things
you do on the internet relate to that that NFT. Wow, three years ago we did something like this with
Cardinia City, where we realized we didn't need email accounts or databases anymore.
We just needed an NFT that would like hook up to a game server,
and then we could we could like track what was done with the NFT and connect it back
to game activity. So. What I just explained sounds fancy, but it wasn't that fancy.
So what Desolus is doing with Fluxpoint Studio and this whole handle thing or this how? Yeah,
I'm I'm excited. Don't have the liquidity to do anything with with this. Yeah,
I'm looking at starch mining right now. Um, but I am excited with this.
So I'm really excited about this. So wow, I don't know, Lord, are you gonna mint some of these?
Like, what's the process in minting these? Well, the process hasn't really been fleshed out yet,
or explained to the ecosystem, or excuse me, the community. But basically,
if you are a holder of an ultra rare or an OG handle, you get an automatic whitelist
with an allocation that you can purchase. Prices have not been yet named because it's
a ten thousand, ten thousand NFT collection, and I think one hundred of them are supposed to be one
of ones or something like that. Or is it? Yeah. Okay, so there's legendary handle, yeah. There's
legendary handles if they have out there, as well as the coveted number zero.
So for everyone who gets a whitelist spot, you'll be given a better chance of getting in early
to get what they call a little raffle ticket, and one of those raffle tickets will be chosen for
the airdrop of the handle number zero. As well as something else they're doing with these,
if I remember correctly, because I don't have all the information in front of me.
I think I sent you a bunch of the stuff, the bullet points that they they put out about it.
But they are also going to double as handles. So each NFT you have will also be a handle itself,
so you can send stuff to that NFT and also do sub handles with those NFTs.
So you have an NFT as a PFP that's also a handle. Oh my gosh! Spendron's Cardano retirement account
might be in danger with this information. Sorry, quick shout to Spanish. Join the sources. Uh,
anywho, uh, well, well, wait. I want to backtrack from what you did say.
That if you have an Ada handle, you actually are on the whitelist. Is that the case, or? Well,
OG handles and super or ultra rare handles. So any of the two-letter handles are considered
the ultra rares, and then the OG handles. I think there's like maybe 150 of those, 160. There were
early adopters who, when they were on testnet and everything like that, got to reserve handles.
And when they went on to hit domain net, all of those people, like D54Mofo, he.
He's one of the OG handle holders because he was also on that beta testnet, and when they released,
he got his ass lover NFT. So that's his OG right there. Well, unfortunately,
I missed out on this one, but that's a great little lore for DeFi fundamentals. Yeah,
but but also they have four guys. This is your heart, terrible. Anyway, please continue. Yeah,
so they have thirteen projects that they're working with for like backgrounds
and various other things that are very popular here in the Cardonal community ecosystem, like Hosky.
I think Titans is also on there. Who else is on there? Lily Brody. Lily Brody.
She also is one of their people that she's working or they're working with.
All of these different projects have been allocated. An amount of whitelist spots to give out
to the community anywhere from ten to a hundred, right? So you have to just follow these people,
and when they pop up, say, "Hey, I got white lists to give out." Throw your name in the hat.
They just need a handle, and then they'll associate it to you.
Some of them are probably going to be running. Giveaways on their spaces like the Clays After Dark.
As a matter of fact, Clays After Dark because Handles is one of their primary sponsors.
They were given an allocation, a large allocation of white list spots. So
if you join them on Wednesdays, they they'll have a giveaway where they can do that,
as well as a I think a regular, either a rare or a common. I think it's a rare NFT,
a Hal sub handle. So you'll get whatever three letter, is it three or four letters?
I can't remember what it is for rare, but a three letter handle. At how,
and then they'll send that to you free of charge or whatever like that. So it's a lot of things.
The utility, the utility is what I'm really interested in. They've they've gone as far as saying,
you know, like I said, you can use it as an in-game avatar for Unity engine or Unreal Engine games.
Yeah. They also mentioned, yeah, and they also mentioned that it will also help with
your digital identity, and I'm really interested in how that's going to work because,
as you all know, you know, when Cardano popped up, that was like a focus of a lot of blockchains.
You know, your digital identity, your online identity, and how to You know,
protect all your information and stuff like that because they're also working with Midnight,
as a matter of fact, too. And you know, that's going to be the shielding of all transactions
and things like that. So Handles has a huge footprint in in in various places right now,
and I guess this is just their their way of opening up the floodgates. Also,
they've also said this is also to raise capital, so they won't have to keep going to Catalyst
and siphoning money directly from. The blockchain and ecosystems, which I'm not gonna lie,
that's honesty at its best, you know. But I prefer they did it this way because they are popular
and they do deliver, as long as they don't come out talking about a hundred ADA per hal.
I think everything should be good, you know. Yeah, I guess so, man. And that's the other thing
too is that not to use specific names, but developers are developing on midnight now because there's
there's more money and I guess less drama for right now. So so uh, we'll see how that goes. Um.
All right. Okay. Fantastic! Oh, Jimmy Bones is back. I don't know. Should we do a contest?
I don't even know how to do a contest anymore. How do we do this? Used to have Twitter pickers.
Meeny, miny, moe. Hmm. Ah. All right, all right, all right. I got it. I got it. I got it. All right.
Since the giveaway is a dirty EVM, EVM token, who can ever PM me? Because I, I hate,
I hate doing wallet exposures publicly. Whoever can DM me their dirty, dirty Ethereum wallet.
You know, with low gas fees these days, you will win. Let's put trust them down. You will win
the Think Token when I get it. I got to do all this stuff to go get it.
You'll win a hundred Think Token for me. Again, Smokin Jay kept talking about it. I looked at the.
I looked at the team. Team was good. I thought Jimmy Bones just dipped out. Okay, he's still here.
Going to win it. Can I interject right quick? Sure. Um. I'm looking at their timeline.
They have a lot of partners. It's 13 total. I don't have the list in front of me,
but for those of you who do like hardware wallets and security-related things here
on the blockchain, Keystone Wallet is one of their partners, and they're giving away
a special limited edition handle badged Keystone Pro 3. I think it is. I can't really see.
I can't really see on this. Wait, wait, is Keystone? Can Keystone do Ethereum?
Keystone can do every blockchain, even Sweet versus Sweet. Okay, there you go. There you go. Um.
Okay. Well, that that's good. Keystone. I I need to might find a a. I'm always looking for
quality wallets. After MetaMask, MetaMask is just a horrible poop show.
Let's just be honest with you. That's one of the reasons I left Ethereum.
Didn't want to come back ever again. Anyway, okay. Thank you, Lord, for for the interjection.
All right. So I don't know if smoking. I don't know if I should count smoking J because smoking J
already has his. I don't know. He didn't send me anything. Okay. Okay. So excluding smoking J,
who already has think token. Anyone else who's left here or just popped in, Ventron?
If you want to get some dirtiest uh EDM action, you can if you want to. Uh, send me your wallet.
Address right now. You sent it before. I said right now doesn't count.
It's 1:51 a.m. My time right now. So send me your EVM. I'll send you at least 100 of the Think
token. I don't know how much this stuff is going to be worth. And again,
if you're even going to use it for the ecosystem, but yeah, it it passes the Alex Becker smell test.
It's got a good team, which generates a good narrative, whether if it delivers or not.
It is a good team. I am there for the team part. And it's got a strong community of people
that seemingly don't want to just dump the token. They want to use it for the ecosystem that
the team is actually developing, right? So if you're into AI tokens, you want to take a risk.
This is a risk that my wife is taking, but I am not for tax tax purposes. So I'll leave it at that.
We got Starch Miner again in a less than four hours, three hours and twelve minutes.
Starch Miner's twenty five percent off will be gone. So if you've got some extra angel tokens
or something else that you can use for liquidity, because you can't get on Kraken fast enough to get
the Cardano off there quick enough to go buy this in less than three hours, that is the thing.
As we talked about with Shaggy, he he was bullish about it. Starch Miner runs in the background
in the tab. Need a starch company, I guess. And I know it might be a good time thing to get a couple
of their NFTs before they go up. There you go, not not financial advice. Uh, there we go.
We did everything else. We brought to speed some of the Spentron X space,
which I might hang out there for 20 minutes before running my own space because a lot
of great information came from there. Uh, and a resident also expert Shagrax had some other thoughts
and notes too on some of the stuff he was talking about. Oh, we got Spentron up. Okay, it's
either him or his retirement wallet wants to know more about Hal. Let's see who we're talking to.
Are we talking about Spentron or are we talking with his wallet that has possessed his body,
his retirement wallet, to go buy some NFTs? Call Hal. Oh no! Okay, let's see.
I just connected my internet while it's coming up, and now everything is doing the circle thing.
So sorry, hang on. With anticipation at the very end of this, last, last, last wallet standing.
As we're waiting for Spentron to stop circling. Yeah, give a follow, everyone here.
Definitely Tarameka. You guys know this; you've been here long enough.
But I guess I'm doing this for anyone seeing this recorded stuff. Working with stuff with Tarameka.
Very excited. We're we're doing things right. Slow, steady, with testing and talk.
And Spentron has been dropped down. You shall not even. We're getting to final thoughts, so.
Oh my God, Defi Fomo Mofos here. We we were talking about your your uh handle,
your legendary what ass handle, and how you might get yourself some Hal NFTs. So congratulations,
Stefy! Legendary ass handle. Let's go. He has an ass handle for being in their their beta testing,
I guess. Their testnet testing, and now he can he has access to the whitelist of their Hal NFTs
that are coming out that will do digital identity. And they don't want to say metaverse,
but basically they're talking about metaverse again. They just can't say it. It's a dirty word now.
Oh my god, we're we're gonna get him up for closing thoughts, dude. This is a miracle today.
Oh my god, I can't. Don't ever say that dirty thoughts didn't do anything for you. Venture,
what brings you to the to the stage? Are you gonna cuss me out for dealing with dirty,
dirty EDM money? No, I was just gonna come up talk potatoes. Oh, and you were talking about
minting one of the miners. And if you look at how many miners are online,
there's like about a thousand and fifty miners on average. And so there's only about Fuck!
I can't even remember how many blocks per day there is. I think there's 488.
So you're not even guaranteed one block a day, which is 12.5 million starch.
So you start doing a little bit of that math, and you might come to the conclusion
that the starch Dex price is maybe a better deal than a 200 or 186 ADA mint on the miner, especially
when we've got about seven or eight months when the next having is going to happen. Not
that I don't think getting a miner is not a bad idea, but if you want to get the most starch,
I think. I think that might be a better route. I want definitely mint anyways.
There were there were some great giveaways, so I hopefully I can claim the second giveaway.
Because sometimes they get lazy on these giveaways, so it's a great giveaways he was doing.
Just had to go on the website for the second one and put in a code. Hopefully my code
won't has not expired yet. I'm probably doing that after the space. Um, but here
but here's my thing though is that I get what you're saying, but are would would there be a way that
you just like hold on to the starch that you buy, sell it for Cardano, and then buy a miner later?
Is that even a strategy? I think there's a Stratum who I think is one of the top miners,
if not the top miner holder. I I think he did that when he was leveling up his miners
in the beginning. He was selling all the starch he was getting, and then using that ADA to buy
more miners until he got the number he wanted. There's some sort of you have to be at a scale at
at some scale for that to work before it can be big enough, you know, but Yeah, some people do.
Well, quick shout out to Jungle. Thanks for joining us. So, so that's what that's what I'm saying is
that you you kind of done the math, and if buying with that kind of Cardano, buying actual starch
and holding it, there might be the possibility of selling it for ADA and then minting later. Ah,
that sounds risky to me, but I guess it's kind of it's the same game theory of Bitcoin mining in
in a sense, even though it's proof of attendance instead of proof of work. I mean,
your proof of attendance is a lot easier; it's less cost. So, if you're thinking
five years from now you still want to be mining, then getting a miner now before
that all those havings happen is maybe a good idea. But it's also like you know, and it's so low,
and we just went through a having. Is this? I kind of look at the charts now as more of
like a Bitcoin type of chart because of how the havings are so similar and the supplies
and how it's just distributed, and the the utility for it hasn't really come to fruition yet.
And if you look at the USD value chart of it. You know, you can tell that these are
more ADA OG holders because as ADA went up forty or fifty percent in the last two weeks, you know,
Starch didn't have this huge sell-off for the USD value, you know, because most of the holders
are all ADA OGers who are here at twenty-five cents, thirty-three cents, still working,
still building. So, like, you know, ADA is ADA is kind of the more core value that it's paired with
versus its USD value, which I think will play into a role like like Snec does,
where it's leveraged ADA, you know. Well, I mean, I mean, the other thing is defining what starch
is, right? You know, the way hearing it before, it was a mining simulation, kind of a game, right?
And people were just just mining it. It was based on first principles.
That's why comparison to Bitcoin, right? So, but we're now we're at a different,
an interesting point, right? After some type of Japanese meeting between Bearishowski,
some other guy, some bad names. If I record my spaces, an abstract potato.
Now there's some what connections to midnight? You know what's going on? There's
other other connections to other things, right? Like there's Tyson. And start to start acting maybe
like a utility token again. That's my thoughts on it. So I don't know how close I am on this one,
but after hearing what Shagrat was talking about, whoa. And then also, you know,
comparing notes with Spaces, the whole thing that there might be even like a multi-c chain wallet
coming from Abstract, maybe related to the website, maybe like a replacement to
to the summons platform. I don't know. Similar kind of like setup, tokens used, things, things.
So I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of speculation, a lot of good guessing. We need to start,
right? So just just before you keep going, your mic is a little funny. So we can I can hear you,
but it's like you're far away and it's echoing kind of a little bit. How about this?
Does this sound better? Oh yeah. Okay, I should have done this. I I didn't want my typing noises
to to come through, so I'll try not to type. No one else told me this.
That I sound like a faraway person. Oh my gosh. It was just for like, it was just for the last time
you started speaking. Oh, because I was looking at the charts for starch.
That's why I was very distant. Well, it actually sounds like the bass just disappeared at
the whole thing, like your microphone disconnected. Oh my gosh, you guys should tell me
these things. Well, unless I rant horrible, horrible things, and then I should not be heard.
It was still audible. It was still audible, so I was waiting till there was a time
because I could still like hear you. Thank you so much. But also, I was I was going to interject
and say, did you hear about the starch giveaway app? That just launched as the first utility
for the starch token. No, I did not. This is starch giveaway app. Yeah, dude, he built this.
It's so fucking cool. This is why I love this guy. Solo dev just fucking did it,
and it's fucking awesome. And he just keeps reiterating it and editing it to make it better. So
that you know, that's totally his mindset. But it's a, it's essentially a gift card on Cardano,
where you can go set a token like Hosky. You can even do Angels. He's working with USDM right now
in Blockjock to see if they can start some sort of A way that they can use this to repay the fees
for minting USDM and use it as a gift code. So I've actually used it and go on the website.
You can attach like a billion Hosky tokens, split it into five different claim codes that you get.
That part of it is off chain because you can't use the gift codes that are on chain
because then somebody could steal the gift code. So there's like a, you know, there's a,
a dynamic there, and then. You send it out to winners instead of doing like raffles
or you know wheels. You can just send somebody a gift code. They can go in there,
type in the gift code on the website, send a just a Cardano traction transaction fee,
and then they get the tokens that's in that claim code. So it's just like essentially a gift card.
It doesn't expire. It will always stay there. They can the person who creates the claims
can also reclaim the tokens if like they're unclaimed or anything like that.
So a really cool kind of utility, and if you use the Starch token to create the claim code,
it's a fifty percent discount versus using ADA. So it's kind of one of the first syncs
for Starch to kind of have a small little utility and the stake pool rewards. So fucking small,
but so fucking cool. Shout out to that abstract potato. I'm gonna. Can I post his his post up above?
Yeah, please, please, please. And you, but you need Hosky tokens to create the gift cards. No,
that's just one of the first ones he added. You can he's you can add any policy ID.
He has a form on there. If there's a token you want, just to fill it out,
and he'll add it to the website for you to use that token for gift card claim codes. Oh, fantastic!
Yeah, I think they've added like Hosky and a couple other tokens so far. That's really cool.
Defi FOMO MFO. What brings you up aside from you being awake? Yeah, I just woke up
and saw you guys were chilling here, and thought I'd come say hi. Yeah. Um. Um.
Not to bring up old spaces that happened like a couple hours ago. Um. Yeah.
So to play devil's advocate, Spentron, if MintSwap can be Apple, not not not current Apple with Tim,
but Steve Apple, right, and run a smooth like, you know, system and have all these type
of experiences, that might actually help adoption, right? But that's a false analogy
because Steve Jobs Apple was innovative and doing new things, whereas MintSwap's just jocking
everybody else's style. It's kind of like there's this term in in business blue ocean,
but you know it's not a blue ocean. They're just kind of like you know drowning out everyone
until it looks like a blue ocean. That's the way I like to think about it. He also, I guess,
a really big factor that he wanted to ensure is that like right now, if you do an airdrop on Cardano
to like a thousand wallets, you have to pay a lot of transaction fees, and so it's really expensive.
And so this was a way where you can create one thousand gift codes for one ADA.
And then just distribute the gift codes, and then have the people claim it,
and then they're they're getting the transaction fee for Cardano, obviously.
So you want to make the value of the tokens, you know, more than probably a Cardano transaction fee,
but that's a really a lot cheaper way, and the first really cheap way for that to happen on chain.
Oh my god, that reminds me. So DeFi, are you guys going to use this for Angel Coin ADA,
so that you can give more rewards to us by saving on the airdrops? Well,
we we already get our airdrops pretty cheap, so. Yeah, we won't be changing our airdrop system,
but we we will probably add our policy ID to their giveaway tool. That's gonna be beautiful.
That's gonna be beautiful. Oh yeah, I'm I've been in talks with Mr. Potato about angels
and how many angels to put in to some of the gift cards. If you guys are going to be attending
Rare Evo, he's going to be having these starch gift cards. It's the last post I put up there.
He's got like a hundred of them with starch on them. I'm pretty sure he's gonna maybe even have some
with angels tokens, because I think he's added that policy already. And he's been telling me like
how many angels should be on the claim. You know, yada yada, and we've been talking about that.
So I think that's already happening. Is Abstract going to actually be in Vegas,
or is he got somebody else passing them out? He's got someone else passing them out.
He said he couldn't get someone to watch his dog. Bummer. It's a great excuse
if it's not a real one. I would use it too. I can't leave my dogs. That's not you can't do that.
I heard Min Swap has cats. They have to they have to watch. That's
why they can't they can't you know get out there. Just a rare Evo. That that's a made up room.
Am I naive to think that the idea that MinSwap can't come to the US because it's hard
for people to come into the US right now, but they're like a Switzerland based company?
That's bullshit. Right. If I understand, if one or two from the team can't make it,
but to not have a booth and have representatives there is completely asinine.
While they're stealing DexHunter's thing, they're doing lending and borrowing. They're the top TVL.
They do the top volume on Cardano. Like without MinSwap, their Cardano would be kind of fucked.
I will give them that. But like the fact that they're not even tending Rare Evo while take have
a four million dollar treasury. And they've taken two million plus in catalyst money.
I think like it's a joke, a fucking joke that they're not there and supporting just the ecosystem
and being like, hey, we're here. Like you want adoption? To me, that's the biggest slap in the face.
I've honestly, it's insulting. That's why I've been actually on the timeline,
like talking about it more because it just pisses me off, to be honest. Like.
Like you guys are so rich, and you just don't. Oh, we don't even show up
because we don't even need to do that. Like fuck you guys, then fuck you guys.
I don't want to use your platform, and I'm going to support everybody else who's trying to take
your market share. So fuck off. Thank you. That's the end. Well, well, the thing is,
is that they'd have to like deal with like questions about things they've done. So you know, why,
why, why show? Where you potentially have to answer questions for things that you've done.
By people that might be criticizing moves that they're making, but but I don't think that's
the reason. If the top DeFi app on Cardano and you're not showing up to Rare Evo to showcase it,
then what are you doing? It feels like something nefarious to me. Like,
is it like you're just you know maybe US regulations? They don't maybe want to get in trouble.
I can understand that from a liability perspective or something. But like to have nobody there,
a ViFi shows up. They're from Australia. Like, why is ViFi and C Swap there, but MinSwap's not?
But they're also I don't know. I we can change the subject. I'll go on a rant. I got you. I got you.
That should be a huge red flag for anyone and everyone that that that's their thought process on it.
But until enough users are willing to sacrifice the financial benefit that they offer,
that nothing's going to change, and they'll be able to get away with that.
Yeah. So, and in in almost not related news. The what do you call it? The wall.
There's been less illegal border crossing, and we've been keeping you know people outside of
the United States. So maybe that's related. They're keeping out the min swap team. I'm sorry.
I'm just I'm just screwing around. But Spentron, you do have valid points.
I think that showcasing the technology and or being ready to answer hard questions would be at
least a courtesy that that the top dog should have. So anyone who has liquidity on Minswap
and Minswap isn't at Rare Evo showcasing their app where your liquidity is is a detriment
to our whole ecosystem. It is. There's going to be a lot of rich people in and out walking through
and seeing Minswap. They could showcase all the liquidity providers, showcase the tokens. I mean,
they could do so much for this ecosystem, and they're just fucking staying home because they packed
their bags, like. They're not here for us. That's the problem with mint swap. They're here for them,
which is great. They built a good product, but like they're not here for the ecosystem.
They're here for themselves, and they don't really give a fuck who they hurt in the process.
Just look at Dex Hunter. I mean, they just had a twenty percent dump on their price token. Yeah,
man. All right. If anyone else wants to chime in, feel free. Anyways, make sure you make sure
you find Mister the potato cards. Get yourself some starch. I'm gonna try to.
I already talked to him and try to donate more starch to this endeavor he's on.
And if you're down in Rare Evo, also there's going to be a bank party that Levy is sponsoring.
I think Angel Finance might be sponsoring a whole bunch of cool ecosystem, the bees, the hops,
all the good ones. Make sure you go and find those wristbands. There's a limited supply.
There's only 200, and it's going to be probably the party and where you want to network the most,
where I believe the best people of Cardano are going to be, in my opinion. Spencer,
are you going to be able to sneak out this year, or are you still not going to be able to make it?
No, I can't make it. Like, I could get some of the costs maybe covered in a in a various amount
of ways, but at the end of the day, like, I don't, I don't want to spend two thousand or
three thousand dollars this year out of pocket, and the time, and then that doesn't like,
I got to get six days with two dogs. That adds up to like another six or seven hundred dollars,
you know, and then so it's just like really fucking adds up. And like right now,
I don't want to sell any of my assets because I'm so fiat poor to go and do that
because I want to sell it when it's more at the top of the alt season, or just you know like don't.
How far? How far? How far is it for you to Vegas? Yeah, it's about an eighteen-hour drive.
I think twenty hours. Ah, okay. I was gonna say, man, you're more than welcome to come. You know,
crash with me in Barakia in our room if you want to save a few bucks. If you can make it out,
I really wish I could, but like, I've just got so many moving parts
that this year it just doesn't quite make sense for me. It sucks, honestly. I mean,
I'm having FOMO already, and it's not good. I understand. That's how I was like the first shit. Not,
not. What was it? Two years, three three years ago now I guess. Because I went to Rare Evo
last year, and the year before was was that Rare Evo or CNFT XLV? But the year I think it was CNFT.
Yeah, it was like I went to the last CNFT XLV, but I missed CNFT Con is what it was back then.
And like I was so mad because I had been planning all year to go, and then at the last second
I decided not to, and then I was so disappointed with myself for not going that I vowed
I just won't miss any more and. Yeah, I'm not missing any more. Yeah, you shouldn't.
I'm so glad you guys are all going to be there. I am more excited that Barakiel went
and decided to you know go and hang out and you know network. I think that's.
I'm very very bullish on that because I don't even know who Barakiel is,
but apparently people do kind of. He's somebody in the in the ecosystem. So you know,
like that's just adding that level of trust layer with a lot of people at Rarevo.
I think is really bullish for the project. So I'm like fucking. I'm stoked that that's happening
and. It just didn't work out this, and it usually does that for a reason. Like I think the focus,
if I went, I'd be around you guys, hang out. I don't want to. I think I take away
from like you know, I got my own. People have their own feelings about me.
They don't need to conflate the two with you guys. So maybe there's a reason why I'm not going,
and Barakiel can be the center, and he can do his, you know, he's the he's the peacemaker. So he,
you know, he'll do. I know he'll be great at what he networking and and meeting people.
So excited about that. Yeah, it's it'll it'll be a good time, and I'm sure that we'll have
some some cool things pop out of the weekend that you know we haven't even considered yet,
and just like, yeah, I'm excited for all the networking and just the ideas that flow around just
through just casual conversations or you know scheduled meetings, whatever. But yeah,
it's a. It's it'll be a good time. Looking forward. I can I can say that every time I've gone,
the ideas, networking, or connections I made paid for more than the cost of the trip,
both times I've gone, uh, in the long run. So, you know, generally that's how powerful going
and meeting people from Web three can be. Eating down, sitting down, and eating with people who
where there's not a lot of trust in a crypto environment, and then you go into Rare Evo
and you start to meet people, shake their hands, talk to them, vibe check them, and realize,
oh shit, okay, I like you. You've shown your face to me. This is more trustworthy.
I can shake your hand. All of a sudden, things blossom a lot, like really quickly,
and it's fun to watch. And it's sad I'm not going to be a part of it,
but it's going to happen again. Whoever's there, so soak it up, and it's going to be great.
It's probably probably the best thing for governance too, like. Getting people together
to like not see each other as enemies so much and on the same team, and then
like collaborating—like it'll it'll probably wear off after like three or four months.
But like that'll be
really good to hopefully like hurry this governance shit out the door and we move on.
Title: You're breaking up, bro.
You're stuck in the matrix.
Jay, are you there? Sorry, playing biscuits. I'm here. I don't know what happened. It's really bad.
I think that was a a soft yes. I can't tell if he was hot micing
or if he was actually trying to say something. But if he were trying to talk, Jay,
that came through really, really quietly. I I only hot bike in poker. That's what I. No,
I was saying I'm here. I'm just trimming bristles. I don't know what happened to title. Oh,
we got we got dot com. My other my other friend or associate who's controversial on Cardano.
Thanks for stopping by. I like people outspoken.
Are either of you guys going to be out out at Vegas this year?
I will not. I don't. Not in a staffing position to do that.
Yeah, it it always like sounds like fun, but I I thank you guys for you know hanging out
and stuff like that because this is pretty much I I've met people. So, that that's the thing.
I I used to do a lot of comic book conventions, like San Diego. Met a lot of cool people,
but I at that time I didn't have the art skills to to sell as an artist.
So that was a good ten years of my life.
A lot of money spent, a lot of memories, but not a lot to show from it. So.
And anywho, let's look at this. So one more thing on the agenda before we close out the space,
I put a link, but you might have to get a better link from Lurky. So if you guys are not familiar
with Lurky from last week, there are impromptu guest, the developer we talked to,
or at least one of the people from the team, they they worked on the JPEG store
before the JPEG store was bought out, and then they left Cardano as their main
and went to Dirty Dirty Base, where I couldn't ask them if they follow those Dirty Dirty Apes.
But the platform is it's it's blockchain agnostic, and what it does as a business,
because we talk more about the business side of it and the use case, and less about their token
and tokenomics. It is a I don't say aggregator, but it basically collects data on spaces on X
and matches that data with wallets in one place. That's the way it was described to me.
So I just signed up for the account I'm looking at right now. No clue what I'm necessarily. Oh, oh,
I see it now. Okay, maybe I should take at least a screenshot. So I am seeing spaces
and the speakers of the spaces, and I'm seeing multiple coins on different blockchains
being mentioned. So let me see if I put this in here, and I'll post the top.
And so the idea behind this this the service is that it's to help prevent bit bit uh bitboy cryptos
because you can match what a person's saying potentially to their wallet.
That's the idea of the service. And they already got some things on on X spaces in general
because they they are paying the money for the X API and they're pulling data from it.
So I think it was like ninety percent of spaces where people are speakers they don't like
or share the space. And that, to them, is it could be a growth metric for everybody who's actually
who like a speaker on the space. It would create more visibility for their accounts.
But I also get why not sharing it. Maybe you're in someone's spaces and you're you're speaking,
and you don't want necessarily everyone to know you're speaking in that space. I guess I'm not sure.
So any comments
on this service, or comments on you know that 90% fact that they they spat out last space.
I don't think everyone can hear everyone. I could hear. I was just away from my phone for a second,
but I think yeah, like I don't know. I make it a habit as soon as I step into any space, I like
and repost it. If I don't agree with what a speaker is saying, afterwards, I'll go back
and un repost and unlike it. But yeah, just a good habit to get into is to support the people that
you're, you know, trying to chat with and hang with. So there's a there's an algorithm trick
I recently found out, and maybe maybe it was just because I'm like dumb, but.
When you're reposting in spaces, even if you leave the space, it'll show still your number in the
in the space boxes up above. So it increases the num. It'll still so if I left and DeFi left
and we both reposted it, your space will still show us as in the space because we reposted it
on our timeline. And that's why space hosts I think are generally wanting
you to repost all the time, all the time, all the time because it it pushes them closer
to the first space. Even if you don't join the room, it'll show you as joined or joining the room
because of your repost while it's live. Oh, interesting. You know, I I don't really care too much
about like like like audience and growth and stuff like I did on YouTube because like I like
how these are more intimate. But I am blown away with like spaces that have like thousand
of pe like thousands of people and stuff like that. I'm looking through the the data right now.
There isn't a lot of Cardano mentioned. I see a lot of Soul Bitcoin, some different tickers,
but I did find Pudgies. See Pudgies. I did find one Cardano space. Had 224 listeners.
They mentioned Cardano, Doge, Solano, and Boink, and this was NFT critics talks giveaways on
the Morning Glow. Let's see, can I get any more information? And I'm looking at some things.
Is talking about NFT season. It might be coming back. Not seeing anything's particularly
about crypto. And there's really isn't a transcript, but it does show some of things being said.
You know. What I would like is like maybe a a smack indicator. Are they are they talking bad
about a crypto or so? And again, I'm trying to sort this out. Cause like be like, hey, look,
people are talking about Cardano, but are they talking about it in a good way now?
I I'd like to know that. So I'll send out one more screenshot here. Again,
the the accounts are all this stuff is free. It's going to be free for I think like maybe like
more months than than like like the rest of the year probably. But they're in
their uh user acquisition period. After they get a certain amount of users or a certain time,
this these are going to be paid services, and they're they're debating about what
their monthly subscription is going to be for like regular people and what their corporate
or business Uh, like expenses going to be for their bigger accounts with like bigger tools
and stuff like that. I will say, as much as I love to hear everything that I heard,
I don't like uh anything that's dependent on APIs in general. I mean, I I get it;
it's a faster way to connect to like a a service, but I I hate that feeling of being cut off,
or like something I'm I'm into is going to be cut off by the API support being cut off.
So so granted, X is a bigger business, and um I don't see them just Absolutely turning off
their APIs or limiting access in any way that they they've been doing so or letting developers have.
So I think that's a pretty safe bet. But yeah, that's just my that's my only thing I thought about
when I when I thought about like what could be the weaknesses related to their business.
I think the API cost could be one. Did you see Ada Anvil's new API toolkit coming out on
August first? That's supposed to be like a really easy way for developers to build things.
I think it's been mentioned. There's so much news. It's like that's the other thing, right?
Say it again one more time, Saitron. I'll pin it to the top because I'm not a developer and I'm not.
I don't really understand the nuances of it, but it seems like a really they created some easy way
to build smart contracts and develop on Cardano using kind of this all-in-one kind of hub.
And it's coming out on the first. Uh. So I'm I I'm a game developer. I've always said that.
That's first. That just gives me a better understanding on how. Like programming and stuff works,
and plus my my my first degree is linguistics, and part of linguistics wasn't
just natural languages; it was machine languages. So, I got some like programming stuff out
of my my four-year degree, but I'm I'm definitely not like I I wouldn't.
I in general would not trust myself with decentralized finance. That makes it—it's like
if I'm developing it, I would definitely like get someone else to audit the code or check for bugs
or anything like that. So, so that's right off the bat. But I'm I'm interested
in node-based programming. So Unreal has that. Goodo used to have that,
but they just made a cleaner language, and Google's just released. Like a way to program through
nodes and AI. So if there's like anything that comes out that's node-based,
that could be smart contract, which is basically programming with a with a visual interface,
and all the very important code is being audited and checked by someone else. Then I'm all for that.
I get super excited about that. Let's see here. It's Anvil Dev. Click this really quick.
Four years of card experience, all bottled in a simple to use API calls.
Is that the negative experience or that's just that's just the positive experience? Sorry. Ah. Oh,
this is kind of cool. I love. I I don't know anything, but I see He Man on there. So.
I also want to say that too. Just before we get the mic to to to dot com, um, I saw the.
Seoul's platform that the Think Agent agent Think Agent team was working on, and I said, "Oh my God,
it's node-based programming, where you can program your your agents with with that visual type
of coding that I'm used to." So that's why I got excited. Yeah, see, I'm not seeing anything in
how to how to actually program with it. And you, before we close off this space, Sean Sean dot com.
I said, "What what's going on with that? Is that I don't think that's your real name." What what?
Nah, I'm over crypto, over intimacy. I want to actually take myself serious. So,
with with a with a hentai pic, I mean a manga picture. I mean, if Alad Gil can can manage
one point five billion with a Goku PFP on LinkedIn, then I could manage, you know,
ten dollars on fucking uh Akoniki PFP. Oh my god! Oh my god! Well, be careful.
The Karens in Australia are going after Japanese anything related culture. Through Visa
and Mastercard, so you know, gotta be careful with that. They might cut your cards.
They might cut cut your ability to use fiat in a meaningful way to go into debt
in the traditional finance system. So, okay, do you have any anything to share? Any any thoughts,
news? We've gone through the list. Um, download Claude code, make an app, have fun, and enjoy AI.
Oh, fantastic! Were you affected by the the the Claude changes? Like, I'm still trying to understand
why that was like a big thing for people that use Claude to program. I personally love it because,
like, so I I go through the terminal to use Claude now, and I like it more than Cursor.
That's you know visual code base. I think it's much more interesting. Yeah,
I I I still I love like visual code bases. Like I love like controllers, right?
I can play a video game with a keyboard and mouse, but it still doesn't feel the same. But no, um,
there was a thing that happened to the terms of service with Claude AI.
Were you affected by that at all, or you didn't even notice the changes? I don't notice the changes.
I just got the subscription. Okay. What? So I love your ability to just ignore
the non-important stuff as long as you're not affected. All right. Okay. No. Okay.
I think you're talking about Cursor. Cursor is the one that got affected, and people spent like
seven thousand dollars in like a day. Oh, I thought it was Claude. I thought it was Claude the one
that had the the change the terms of service. Yeah, that was Cursor. Cursor just overnight did that,
and people at enterprise accounts had team members that were using like Cursor,
and then just overnight just zap a bunch of money. Oh my God. Did you see the the T app yesterday?
No, no, no. What's what happened with T appa? No, no, the T app, like T T A. Have you heard of it?
I I'm now lost. I'm thinking about when you say TA. I'm thinking about like analyzing charts. No,
it's TEA. Oh oh yeah. Don't download T. Don't don't don't download the T app. Uh yeah. I don't know
why, but apparently like that that came up. Don't download T. Like popped up in my news feed. Yeah,
that's a that's a cursor issue. The cursor will will make you use Superbase,
and it'll it'll be a public database, and it just nobody checks off that box.
AI code is not there yet, but it's just funny. Someone vibe coded a really fucking good like like
consumer product and just blew it. I'm surprised no one's just coming in
and just swooping that whole like idea. Why aren't you swooping in? Do you not have
the AI AI agent ability or manpower to do it? Nah, I don't. I don't need to make an app
where I just have bitches gossiping on people. I'd I'd rather just I'd rather just do my own thing.
God damn it! Oh my gosh! All right, I think it's 2:32 a.m. I work on the weekends.
I work less on the weekdays, but I still have to do some work in the morning.
We'll have some final thoughts. Again, thanks for everybody who's been coming up.
Let's get some final thoughts. As DeFi has dodged, Lord has gone back to the heavenly offices.
We'll start with Smoking J if he's still smoking and if he can speak. Still smoking,
getting ready to put ribs in. Everyone have a glorious weekend. Be safe. Be smart. Be kind.
Sounds great, Spentron. Any words of wisdoms aside from having two wallets, one for retirement
and the other one for whatever degeneracy you're interested in? Um, you know, I I don't know.
Just try to maybe be a little more of your authentic selves in the space.
I think there's so much animity and a lot of disingenuous stuff that even
if you feel like it's uncomfortable, maybe sharing something or something like that.
I think just do it anyways because. I think we're getting away from like actual human connections
so much that we actually have to rely on other people's lived experiences so that we can grow from
them as well as humans, and we're just not even sharing more and more of those.
So maybe not just on the timeline or on X, but just like with your friends or anything like that.
I would say just try to go do that more of that this weekend, or do more of that
because I don't know, time is short. So why the fuck? Why Why do you care? What you know?
At least share your lived experience or be your authentic self with people,
and I just think it'll be better, anyways. Final thoughts. Thanks. Bye. Great space.
I've been telling some of the Chinese students who are just studying in their room,
there's no pandemic. Go outside and touch some grass. And they're just, hey,
what are you doing for vacation? Studying. I'm like, oh my god, that's all you?
At least can play a video game or something. No, no time. And that's why China's beaten us.
All right, Sean. Dot com. God, what what's going on? What's your final thoughts? Um, full port
and the things that are going to make you money, and make as much money as possible. Jesus Christ!
You have 150 to 200 years in in this generation with technology. We have reverse aging,
so most likely, so live like you're not gonna die, um, and spend like you're not gonna die.
I want to say this is Sean dot com's true authentic self. Lord, last, uh,
but but the best for last here. Here we go. What do you got? Your final words are or final thoughts?
All right. Well, first. Oh no! Oh no! You're rugging on your final thoughts,
where where you just gave us your seed phrase, and you're giving up crypto. Oh no! Never! Never!
Never! Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Better. Yes. Yeah. We can hear you now. All right. Good.
Yeah. Sorry, I was in the back at a grocery store, man, and I lose signal back there. So, uh,
I really don't have anything prolific to say. Uh, Drizzle's not here, so I saved that for
when he shows up. But needless to say, I'm glad everybody's here, doing their thing, building,
growing, and paying attention. Governance sucks. AI is scary. But we're all here,
still weathering the storm and building every day, and watching people build and witnessing scams,
and trying to teach people not to get scammed. Needless to say, thank you all for tuning in
once again for another great episode of Shilling with the Homies. And also shout out
to the greatest legendary ass lover out there, D Five Fomofo. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you all.
Have a great Saturday, and I look forward to seeing you all next week. Thank you. All right,
fantastic! Again, the giveaway for Think Token is people send me their what do you call it, dirty,
dirty Ethereum wallet or anything that can take Ethereum, and I'll see what the timestamps are.
Maybe Jimmy Bones won. We'll see what happens. A lot of people that came up
and Jimmy Bones always wins. Kick him off. Jimmy Bones wins too much. Kick him off. It's a scam.
It's rigged. I'm lying. I'm happy for you in advance, bro. We we haven't had a giveaway proper
in a while. Powderpot Fuzz, the real host of this space, the person who started this whole thing,
he's busy with sorting out his life. So I'll leave it at that without giving personal details.
But hopefully, we'll eventually get the "Shilling with a Homie" segments
where he's in different places in the world and coming to us by satellite phone, because obviously.
Him talking on a satellite phone will sound amazing. So can't wait for that to happen.
Everyone here is worth a follow because I know everybody here. So if you're a listener
who's coming in, you know, check the boxes on the other people that have come up
or have been in the space. But yeah, I can definitely. Oh wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Do I know Jungle? Let's see if I know Jungle. I'm following. He follows me. Oh yes. Okay.
Jungle Mike. Jungle Mike's a good guy. Okay. All right. Odie. Odie. Boha, who has yet to come up.
Last chance here to claim his hundred think tokens by just coming up and correcting me on
how to say his name. Yeah, do you ever give him a follow? He he seems to be a legitimate dude.
We got Tara Mecca, definitely. We're cooking stuff, so uh, give Tara Mecca a follow. Like I said,
we're small. We don't have millions, but we've got at least one programmer who's full stack
and actually knows what he's doing. And we got Tara Mecca's art, and of course, finally,
my business masters might be in use. So there you go. Want to you want to check out Jonathan?
I'll leave it at that, Starkeda, because um he's always working on some stuff,
so never count him out. And he might be a rare Evo. I think he's got a rare Evo track record.
Defi Fomo Mofo. You got to give a follow. The the guy is just like a the ninja of Cardano.
Everyone on the top, of course, Spentron. I think he's a he's got the pulse on Cardano
and his own opinions, and I like someone who shares their honest opinions. Lord,
if you want to know what's going on with Handle, he's been diligent in tracking down what's going on
with Handle and the Smoking J. Aside from the Ag token I mentioned, the Think token, he knows
how to smoke meat well. So I'll do. That's what it is. And Jamie Bones is also really cool.
You want to follow him out because again, he's got different aspects of the Cardano community
and he knows what's going on as well. Guys, this has been a great, great time to hang out.
Thank you so much for coming. Nothing here should be taken as financial advice. And remember,
as the great, what do you call it? Alex Becker says, "All crypto is putting your penis,
and if you're a woman, your imaginary penis, into a pencil sharpener,
and that's why you should think about before you you buy any of this stuff." Bye. Where's the pen?
