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Solana breakpoint
Recorded: Dec. 11, 2025 Duration: 1:27:49Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, crypto enthusiasts explored the shifting trends favoring Binance and Aster over Solana, the strategic partnerships of BC Games, and the potential for growth in the crypto gaming sector. The conversation also highlighted the importance of yield opportunities in DeFi and the emerging presence of women in the industry.
Full Transcription
ใ่ฆ่ดใใใใจใใใใใพใใ face was rugging bad
Alex what's going on here
that face was rugging bad
holy shit
I got kicked from that stage like 10 times
couldn't get a word in it's probably because we're talking about Holy shit. I got kicked from that stage like 10 times.
Couldn't get a word in.
It's probably because we're talking about Solana.
And we're not talking bullishly about it. So they're going to
try to mess with the space or mess
with my account. They can't take it.
All just inside though.
You don't enjoy it?
No, it's fine.
The thing is, I think people are probably going to think that I'm bearish on Salon.
It's not I'm bearish on Salon.
It's that I'm so much more bullish on Binance and Aster.
It's night and day for me.
I'm walking through.
I'm like, dude, this is kids right here.
These aren't professionals.
These are children.
I'm being pitched that there's a 16-year-old dev. best dev once so on i'm like okay like good luck with that content creators
what oh there's no there's this notion that like the internet is for young people only and i think
that's kind of weird oh it's it's it's if you want to get scammed start investing in young people who
don't like aren't financially you know aware of things and you're going to get scammed start investing in young people who don't like aren't financially
you know aware of things and they're going to get scammed i mean like
no offense no offense to young people like i think maybe people are taking it the wrong way
but i'm like i'm looking at what i i mean would i rather invest in a developer who's of the age of
24. they have several protocols under their belt or you know there's a 16 year old who's really
cool it's the point behind crypto is we were not supposed to know or care about anyone's age to
begin with yeah but if you get that if you get if you can get that edge of someone being doxxed
then you could use it to your advantage like if you knew suzzy was behind something you would you
would ape there was a time when we didn't care how old you are, what race you were, what your political views were.
Now it's like, I don't know.
It's a shit show.
I mean, because I don't know.
I don't even know because if I'm going to go back to break point tomorrow,
I'm like,
it's that bad.
I'm like,
if they didn't have that punching machine today,
I don't know what I would have done.
Luckily I just sat there and punched that machine and say,
it was like,
I wish this was your favorite influencer on this bag.
And I just hit it as hard as I could.
I'm telling you in the venue,
we had the biggest crowd around us because just punching the damn thing.
It was funny as fuck, but we have biggest crowd around us because just punching the damn thing. It was funny as fuck.
We had more people around us than all these other protocols.
I feel like you've been punching that thing the whole fucking two weeks, though.
No cap.
No, I didn't.
We went to Crypto Fight Night, and it was there, and I broke the machine because I hit it so hard.
And then...
It's the same one.
Different one because I broke the first one and then uh today i only hit it like
three or four times i had to wait because i set up i set the record and everyone else was trying
like books like no we can't leave yet like i he's got to break the record bro you're not going to
break the record and then i like i hit it again i broke the record again i'm like dude every time i
touch this thing i'm gonna break the record. You guys need to just...
I don't know what they need to do, big cuz.
Hang it up.
We have Kiss met on the panel.
Long time no speak, cuz what are your thoughts on Sui?
Because in my opinion, it's going to zero.
It's nice to see you.
It's nice to talk to you.
Long time, no talk.
I don't know what is going on.
I haven't missed very much, it seems like,
because I was just in your last space,
and I don't know who those people were.
But I guess those are the people you meet in real life.
Yeah, because, how's it going?
I don't know if you remember me.
I don't even know if we're following.
I'm sure we're following each other. I i remember you i just didn't know if this was
a real main account or what no my main account is hacked my main account is hacked but uh yeah
like what it's really funny because prior to all of this you know like when i started with like
alex like so long ago i remember holy it wasn't actually was it that long ago like maybe two three
years ago everybody was wearing balaclavas like Alex would never dox his face you know now you're
like really like connecting with people getting people's like LinkedIn which is a breath of fresh
air to me to be honest with you like I don't mind and I think that started for me when I started
like going on to SWE I know it's pretty, but when I say controversial for SWE, it's not completely decentralized, as people like to say.
But I myself think that it's the only way we're going to onboard new people onto Web3, if you want to even call it Web3.
What the hell is Web3? I don't know.
But yeah yeah blockchain technology
I think that's all we gotta do
Because if it's not blockchain technology
It's going to be a bunch of 20 year olds
Trying to sell you you know fart coin
Or whatever coin
Fart coin
Yep that's right
That's what Solana
That's what Solana's made of now.
I don't...
No, this face is so bare.
There's a lot of good devs.
Maybe just watching from the shadows
because there's chaos in the arena.
You're using half the same ones on Sui.
Listen, I love Solana
Napa's my girl like I am chain as cringy as that sounds agnostic. I am here for the tech
I'm here for the money. I don't care about the tech. I'll buy anything
The blockchain don't matter at all only thing that matters is the number go up well that's not and is the number and is the number
going to go up whenever i'm surrounded by 16 year olds or when i'm surrounded by 40 year olds
or number go up when you're surrounded by 16 year olds
the number you're talking about applications on top of these blockchains for number to go up when you're surrounded by 16 year olds the number you're talking about on top of these
blockchains for number to go up you need i keep saying you need people to use crypto
not trade crypto when people start using crypto number will go back up are you on
sui at the moment or no do you know anything about absolutely not yo alex i got a question for you
absolutely not yo alex i got a question for you
so what do you guys think about the zero gas fees on aster l1 and like that helping with like
front running and because like how would you front run if you can't like up your gas fees and What? I don't know, man.
We just let Quacky do his thing.
Like, once Aster's L1 comes out,
there's going to be no gas fees.
Wait, Alex, are you Aster?
Just another L1 nobody's building on.
That's all it's going to be.
Another L1 nobody's building on.
That's not true.
Wait, Alex, what's your connection with Astor what's what you've been
up to nothing I just like it I think a lot of people like it I think it's doing really well
it has a lot of volume number one perplex volume just it's a it's a new thing we can all invest in
but we can't for some reason we got a pvp even, we got to PVP. There's been like 10 perp decks that have launched.
So I don't know.
We can't get anything to go up in price
because of the PVP behavior pump fund
has ingrained into everyone.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
So that's exactly it.
Like you got liquidity.
The same people from Solana are probably on Aster at the moment.
And then they'll go somewhere else after.
It's the casino.
Sorry, go ahead.
We had NeverGoon on here just a second ago.
And he's like, I should be networking.
And they're like, network with who?
Who?
That is really funny because like honestly
like you you were like I remember you were at those events and nobody went to events they went
to the after parties it was more for like people on x to really meet each other in my opinion like
that was like nft nyc and stuff but then like oh my god man I'm I've drank the kool-aid but honest
to god I'm being serious you know this though but Sui, like if you go to events, you actually meet people from Silicon Valley. You meet like some pretty cool Web2 tech people that actually are there to understand what the hell is going on. You know, you have people from Greece because Sui just
put their exchange on the chain, on chain. But anyways, yeah, if you go to Sui events,
you can network and you'll get a job. Like you'll walk out with a corporate, but it's a corporate
job. Like you will have to like mind your manners, but everything else. Yeah. It's,
I don't know what you're going to do in real life. Like, I don't know, like punch,
punching bags. That's fun. Outside of fun. I don't know about networking. And that's like,
honest to God, I don't know about networking. A few, like a few people can network. Like I know, you know, like my girl, Eliza,
even you, Alex, and books.
And, you know, you have Poyo,
you have all those guys who go and really do stuff.
But if you're not like an quote unquote,
have a huge following,
it's really difficult to network
because those events are for influencers.
And they're there for influencers
to get more gigs to shill
and if you go to somewhere that's more tech-centric yeah you can probably try to get a job and you
could network but i don't know what anybody's gonna do here unless you have um unless you dev
or you're a coder or you you you know, have lots of money to invest.
I don't know.
You're going to waste your time.
You're going to waste your money traveling halfway across the world to realize, hey, this 16-year-old dev is where I want to park my liquidity.
Yeah, you waste your time.
But these 16-year-olds are having the time of their lives, man.
Like, when was, when, what world can a 16-year-old really,mooze with people like you or anybody else here?
It's a new era.
For us, it's a waste of time.
But for them, holy shit, man, they're going to run the world.
100%.
We got Jason.
Jason, I don't know what your thoughts here on Solana versus Binance.
What do you think?
Well, first of all, I want to comment on the dev thing
because the best devs in the world are working for Microsoft, Google, Apple.
They're working on AI at J.P. Morgan, major banking.
You guys are talking about stuff that's insane
because I would first ask, what's being built?
What's being developed at these places that's so captivating to you?
Because it's not interesting to me at all.
So please start with that at Solana.
What is being developed that is so intriguing that the world's best developers are there working?
Alex, I got this.
Capital markets.
I'm sorry, kids.
I got to cut you off.
I got the answer.
Capital markets, Jason, and all sorts of them.
Internet capital markets, creator capital markets.
I heard today, health capital markets.
There's popping up capital markets.
Let's talk about โ
Oh, I don't know if I cut you off, but i'm learning more and more about these capital markets
but there's no capital about health care capital markets like is someone an expert up here that
spent time at at this place that can talk to me about health care capital markets oh god there's
a person who will come onto the space i was i saw him in person he waved me down and i said what are
you doing he said he's doing stuff in health capital markets. I said, that's a scam. And he said, no, it's not. I said, yes, it is. Anything that ends in
capital markets is a scam. I said it right to his face. He didn't know what to do.
I really would like to have a legitimate conversation with someone about one of these.
And then don't talk in generalities. Please don't hit me with silly speak. Let's talk about one of these. And then don't talk in generalities. Please don't hit me with silly speak. Let's talk about one of these verticals and let's dive deep into it.
Alex, can I introduce Jason to SUI?
I think Jason, you know about SUI?
I do. But specifically, what is it that's intriguing about SUI?
And does SUI develop healthcare capital markets?
I got you, Jason.
I don't know about capital markets, but I will tell you that Microsoft, Apple, Meta,
all the founders, Evan, the CEO, is ex-Apple.
Adani, George, Kostas, Sam, they're all ex-Meta.
Christian Thompson, ex-Meta.
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
What does it mean, ex-Apple?
What does that mean?
So, like, he used to be in, he used to work at Apple.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything.
No, it does, actually.
He was an executive at Apple?
Well, let me tell you.
What's his name?
Evan, you could go ahead and just look all these people up.
Do you know the Libra project?
You know, all the stuff that's here.
I don't even, it's very interesting that people, like, understand a chain, but they don't really understand what it does or who the people behind them are.
You're saying, I know all the words that you just used and if you
can give me the last name i'll search them but what does that have to do with sui you said libra
you said apple you said executives tell me what they're building at sui um well what they're
building is a they build a move network right and also they are everything you're going to own on Sui.
Sorry. Hold on. Hold on. So again, I really want to understand. So you just said build to move.
I'm very much in that space. So what are they building at Sui? That's build to move products
that are being developed and shipped. Right. So basically, I work with a project.
Well, I have worked with a project called Ica.
So Ica, what it does is that there's no bridges anymore.
Now with Sui and Ica, you can have a project launch on any chain and you no longer have to really understand.
You don't have to decide what chain you want to launch anything in.
So the way Sui
does this is you no longer even know you're on blockchain. So you first of all have ZK login,
so zero knowledge login, you log in and get your wallet through a Gmail. So that's one of the very
first problems that, in my opinion, was solved when it came to Web3Tech. So you're talking about wallet abstraction?
So no, I don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm just telling you what is going to allow people to come in.
No, no, no, that's wallet abstraction.
When you don't have to use a crypto wallet
and you can use the product without a seed phrase
or a crypto wallet, that's called wallet abstraction.
No, no, there is a seed phrase. There is a seed phrase or a crypto wallet, that's called wallet abstraction. No, no, there is a seed phrase.
There is a seed phrase.
Yeah, there is account abstraction.
It's not just on Sui.
Okay, hold on a second.
What do you know about Sui, out of curiosity?
Because you say you've heard of it.
What do you know about it?
I just think the point he's trying to make
is that there's no applications or protocols
being built on his chain.
No, there is.
But hold on. But I just want to know what Jason knows about Sui. there's no applications or protocols being built on his but but but hold on but i just want to know what jason there's no like good one okay yeah let me let me give
you some real like rather than just using words like blockchain and stuff like i work for manchester
united do you know what they are okay first of all i all, I'm an Arsenal fan, so I don't think so.
Thanks for coming out, though, buddy.
Thanks for coming out.
So we, you know, people like Rinaldo and Whoop, we're talking about build, you know, this kind of move to earn and trying to reward people for physical activity using these things that you've noted.
people for physical activity using these things that you've you've noted the hard part is getting
74 000 people on boarded to use a wallet and and record a seed phrase and then you know what i'm
saying there's a lot of obstacles to participation so that's why i'm interested when you guys start
talking about this stuff then i get really bored go ahead jason zk login is your way to go. Zero knowledge login. You, people are talking about all of this.
It's account abstraction.
Okay, sure. Account abstraction. But what the hell do you think it is when you're signing for shit through Facebook?
Facebook. And it's not
And it's not just Sui. It's on.
just Sui. It's on...
But what I'm telling you, we're talking
about onboarding people. We're talking about
making it easy for
Joe Schmo, for the person who likes
Manchester United.
I think you're getting too emotional about this.
No, no, but what I'm saying
though is that like, what do
you really need for
what
can you build on Web3 right now
that there's really use case for it?
That's what we're asking.
Yeah, I think there's very little, by the way.
Exactly, there's nothing.
There's not very much.
So what you can...
Right, now we're on the same page.
You could build the biggest decentralized exchange in the world
and then use those fees to buy back.
You can build.
You can build.
What's that?
What is that?
What is what?
A decentralized exchange?
The biggest decentralized exchange in the world.
Astrodax.
What's the yap about, bro?
Yeah, like Hoover said about the emotional part.
Yeah, bro.
I think you're in too deep.
I'm sorry.
No, but okay. I'm sorry. in too deep i'm sorry no but okay so now
let's go to eve so eve i think would have an interesting perspective what are your thoughts
on solana eve i don't really have thoughts about solana because i'm kind of new here. So it's my first beer market.
And I don't know.
That's why I think you have an interesting perspective.
You're newer to crypto.
Yes, maybe.
I think everything is going to be all right.
Because too many people.
Oh, man.
What do you mean?
No, thank you. Everything is going to be okay.
I think that was the most like lucid statement
that's been made so far. Thank you for that.
Yes, I think
there is a lot of like
panic around
and shit.
So just wait.
I think
everything's gonna come back.
Alex, is this what goes on at these
events? Is this what I'm missing in Dubai?
You're gonna have
more information sitting on
Twitter spaces and make more
money sitting on Twitter than you will going into
the events. That's the reality.
That was my general impression because I appreciate these discussions, but to spend 20 hours and,
you know, staying up too late and drinking and then getting sim swapped and abducted and,
you know, you're going to rob me. You've said it three times, Alex,
for my rapper chain. Like, I'm just not interested. I like my rapper chain. You have a rapper
chain? You talk like
you're from Wisconsin.
Jason.
Jason's rich as fuck. No, I know.
I'm just joking. I sent him a DM. This is all
satire, Jason.
You gotta understand when we're on these days.
Sliding right into the DMs.
Sliding right in.
This is satire.
But I do want to say something.
When it comes to decentralization...
I didn't do that.
But come on.
But honestly, can I just...
Can I...
Damn it.
Oh, look.
No, I didn't do that.
I think someone slipped.
No, I think someone slipped.
No, but you know what?
Let's just know.
You're right.
This is not the time or the place.
This is fun.
Nobody needs to talk about anything like that.
Yeah, let's be positive, guys.
Jason, I just put it in words.
What she tried to say about it, I put it in words.
It's in comments.
Not to actually in it.
No, I appreciate that.
I'll take it out.
When it comes to
decentralizing your records,
let's say...
You're talking about
decentralization.
We have
Curtis here. He did the biggest
Vine in the world. You guys may
or may not have heard of that application. He's the biggest
influencer on it.
Let me ask Curtis, what do you think about content creating
when it comes to crypto?
I think it's necessary.
I think it needs to continue.
How else are we going to teach everybody else
about what everything is going on here?
I mean, nobody knows about crypto,
only us in our small little bubble you know how are we going to touch
everybody else we got to make retarded videos and be dumb and stupid that's the only way we're
going to get the attention from everybody else curtis in the future when kiss is making a point
does she jump in the pool before the statement or after the statement like when does she jump
in the pool on video oh jump in in the pool first you gotta do the
attention i got it right away kiss that just yeah jump in the pool then then talk to me about uh
wallet abstraction isn't this funny alex if you could do it underwater i was here my like let's
say older account like my main account you know like people are just like just you know this is the internet this is
the internet it sure is this is the crazy well i mean i i have met i've met one of the richest
people in crypto i met one of the biggest um content creators in crypto on this space alone
and i have messed that's more value than 99 percent of the people i've met irl
you know we got alex in the shower we were back in 2022 you know beginning of the bear market
where alex was holding spaces yeah excuse me yelling at apes um you know and in the you know
and in there we had grant Cardone on these spaces.
Do you guys know Grant Cardone?
Do you know
Fiber Optic?
My internet is such.
We have Moonlight
in the listener section.
She's one of the biggest Chinese
influencers. I wonder if she'll
come on to the speaker panel.
This is early on, right? You guys understand, like, the networking opportunities on crypto Twitter influencers wonder if she'll come on to the speaker panel and
You guys understand like the networking opportunities on crypto Twitter versus IRL
It's better on crypto Twitter in my opinion So Curtis, what do you think of Solana versus Binance?
What do I think?
What, one's American, one's Chinese, right?
Which one's Chinese?
Chinese.
He's not wrong.
Is Bitcoin Chinese or American?
True question.
I think it's American, though.
I know Ethereum is Russian.
Can we get Moonlight onto the speaker panel?
I don't know if they're going to join. Can we get Moonlight onto the speaker panel?
I don't know if they're going to join.
Moonlight, get up here.
Who keeps who keeps adding Quacky?
I think you can get it.
The serious investor. So, Curtis, which do you like more?
Binance or Solana?
Solana.
I'm the Solana guy.
You're from L.A.
You're from L.A., huh?
I'm from New York,
but, yeah, I've lived in L.A.
for over a decade now.
How did I know I I say on my profile that I'm from Los Angeles pretty sure yeah there you go
detective Alex ladies and gentlemen I did I didn't I didn't know. I didn't know you had to get by them.
You were from LA by the people you surround yourself with.
Other LA people.
LA must have a big presence in crypto.
We used to have a really cool event every week called IRL Alpha.
That was a great way to meet people, but RIP.
I don't know if you guys got anything like that. And where are you from, Miami?
I'm in
Colombia, the cocaine capital of the
world.
Oh, wow. Congrats.
Scarface!
We're so fucked now.
Don't add that person back up either.
Adding the schizos.
I didn't add that.
Michael.
Solana or Binance?
I use both, but it's been a lot more time
on B&B these days.
Hold on.
Sorry, I got a call at the same time.
But one thing I was going to add, I know we were talking about, like, the different chains and what's being built.
You know, a big thing that's on every single chain, these tools are going to be about the liquidity and how that's utilized for, like, platforms like Aave or SuLent.
These are supply bar platforms.
We're talking like DeFi stuff.
So last cycle, we call it DeFi summer.
There were a ton of these that were popping up.
Even Monchi built one, KREEM,
which basically allows you to take an asset
and take out and use it as collateral
to take out like USDC, USDF, USD1, stuff like that.
And so that's a big thing that like really needs to
exist on a chain and so sui does have that um abe is a big boy for like most of the chains and
all especially eat you know you have venus which is big on bmb that's the largest one there but
when you guys talk about what's being built on change you got to talk about the d5 part to it
what's happening on solana you know have you guys looked at um uh d5 tuna have you guys looked at you know radium meteor
what are the pool structures over there with like you can do clmms and dllms and dam pools and
you know that's some really cool stuff when you dive into that part to it and that's what's being
built on these chains and what you can do like do we know what cedus is you know the decks the main
decks on sui and how the liquidity works over there you know they have some cool stuff you
can't even do on radium when it comes to recreating a full range liquidity pool clmm and so stuff like
that and it's a little technical it's one to dive into but i think that's the biggest thing when you
see a chain you know and i've been on abstract i've been on sui BNB, and I'm interested to see what happens with this new L1.
I'm messing around a lot with Monat now and see what they're building over
there. But the DeFi part is the biggest thing and what tech they have and
what's being built is the biggest things on the chain.
And so that's just one to add. And for anyone that's on a chain,
you got to look at that stuff. And that's the biggest piece. Yes.
It's cool to log in with an email but a lot of chains do that um now like abstract for example their portal but what is their defy infrastructure and
what can you do there can you do permissionless supply borrow platforms like you can do on um say
finance which is a solana product you know that's that's big stuff and how to use oracles to discover
price and how does the liquidity work because that's what really sets the chain apart,
how you can utilize stuff in the DeFi part of it,
where the big money goes anyway.
So anyway, I just want to add that
and hope that taps into some of those questions earlier,
like what's on these chains.
Yeah, Michael, I appreciate your perspective.
Again, the words are important.
You used the word oracle and I have not found a oracle that is decentralized and not a trusted third party so are you saying that there
are oracles operating on Solana that are decentralized oracles So you can create your own price oracle on Solana,
very expensive. I want to say it's decentralized or you can use the ones that
are currently already exist that are out there. There's a couple,
there's several Oracle providers and you need these if you're going to be
utilizing something like say finance to create permissionless supply borrow.
So like for example,
if you wanted to
take, I'm going to say your token and you wanted people to take out loans, utilizing your token as
collateral, you could go to save finance and you can create a pool and you have to create the
Oracle and pay for it so that people can then take your token, supply it, and then take out USDC
as a loan using your token as collateral on a price-based system,
very similar to Aave.
But I don't think it's โ those aren't decentralized because you create them.
I mean, I guess you could split them up in a way that centralizes them.
That's my point.
That's what I was gunning for.
So, like, you know, it's not decentralized.
It's a centralized system that's relying on trusted third parties and that already exists.
So you're building a more inefficient system on top of a legacy system that already exists and works just fine.
It doesn't need a blockchain.
Well, I think the big thing here is that people want to be able to use their asset, their token they've created or invested in,
their asset, their token they've created or invested in to in some type of DeFi infrastructure
via liquidity or via supply borrow. And with that, you like, let's look at Aave, for example,
the largest supply borrow platform out there. You can't go there with, you know, any token and say,
I want to take out a USDC loan against it. That is a locked system where they only allow certain assets there,
but there are systems in place, which is why the blockchain is important,
where you can take this newly created asset out of thin fucking air and go
utilize it and some permissionless system and then use it to take out,
use it as collateral to take out loans. Now,
that's a whole thing in itself but yeah i think
it's necessary it's just like how's it built what's the security you know we'll have another
balance or situation where there's 120 million dollars but yeah it's it's a lot there's reasons
for it and i think that's the biggest piece to every single chain what are the defy tools that
are being built and what can be utilized? How safe is it?
You know, we saw what happened with Cetus, you know, on Sui.
And some of you guys participated in the gripe with like the validators and people found that it's not decentralized.
It's probably like five guys that, you know, have these things.
And that caused a lot of headaches because people were like,
well, what if I wanted to move big money over there and they don't like me?
You know, is that decentralized?
And a lot of people compared it to Ethereum with the Bitmain hack that occurred, you know,
just like sometimes people thought it's better to lose the damn money versus giving the money
back.
But it's that's the argument of decentralization and centralization, you know, there.
But yeah, I think it's definitely necessary to build cool stuff because say you wanted to
create a company, but you didn't want to be a big player to use the same tools. Well, you can do
that in DeFi. It's just you got to go through the steps and create it yourself. But anyway,
I'm ranting on that. I hope that's kind of helpful.
Yeah, look, I'd love to talk more offline. I think you and I are on the same page with a lot
of it. It's just that I find the same products being built over and over again on different chains by someone claiming to know something or have some edge and it's not really there.
That's my problem.
That's the issue I have.
I've been here a long time.
Most people don't even realize that Ethereum isn't the original chain.
You know what I'm saying?
I agree.
What are we doing here?
I think what they're doing is that, okay, you build it on another saying like it's like i agree what are we doing here i think what they're
doing is that okay you build it on another chain you're built it's access so like like for example
i like i wanted to list for example say i was a creator of aster and i wanted aster on ave and
abe is like no so i'm gonna build my own ab You know, and that's when you build your own chain, you build your own platform.
And so, like, it's the gated thing.
And I think a lot of chains want to maybe participate or utilize tech that's there, but they don't have access to it or just not allowed.
So they build their own.
You know, and that's a big reason why a lot of chains, I believe, exist.
Michael, what were your thoughts on the validators, like, having the chance to shut it down and get the money back?
I think, I mean, I don't know if you participated in a bunch of those spaces, but I agreed on a few points.
Yeah, I did.
I co-hosted with Adany.
I co-hosted the space with Adany.
Oh, I might have been in there.
I gave a few opinions on it. So a, I might have been in there a little. I give a few
opinions on it. So a lot of money moves on Ethereum a lot. And I think a lot of that money
that moves there isn't legit. And I think the reason a lot of money moves there like that,
because people don't want their funds to potentially be frozen or clawed back. And I
think a big argument with like the validators, I mean,
I think there's like 110 of them. But then when you look at how much suede you have to have to
be a validator, literally millions, then it comes out pretty clear that it's likely a few people
that are actually controlling, even though it's, you know, decentralized and 100. But when you
look into it, it's likely like 10 20 you know people you know maybe organizations
too and they probably all talk to each other let's be real so when you realize that you see
that if somebody goes on to that chain and they do something and those people don't agree with
what they did their funds could be clawed back and so i think since then it has has, their TVL has reduced dramatically. I mean,
yeah, I know the market's gone to shit a little bit too, but I think that was a big issue with
that because say I wanted to move, I don't know, $10 million a suey, but I was worried that maybe
these people might decide that my funds were acquired for nefarious means. Now they could
decide to freeze them. And so I
think that spooked a lot of people. People don't talk about it, but I think that did.
And I get it. Pull the money back to take care of the people that actually got hurt.
That's absolutely credible and that makes sense. But the problem is here is that when you have a
chain like that, that can do that, and you're not going to get too much money there and to be honest it was
cedus's fucking fault they should have just covered the bill you know because it was their
decks that got compromised and it did point out some good things too for people that were
only keeping the tokens on one centralized decentralized exchange split up your liquidity
pools across multiple different decentralized exchanges and so on that part it was good but
to be honest when you look at the validators, you can search this up, guys, the validators, how much money
it takes to be a validator, how many of them are there, who you think they are, that's where I
think a lot of money stopped going over there during all those debates for like two weeks or
like three weeks. It was a while of debates talking about it.
is anyone getting fomo from not being at the solana breakpoint event i have i have fomo um
yeah i was getting that seeing you guys buy too i was getting it when like bought the 67RM.
He actually got it from a store.
He didn't buy it from some
hood gangster, street gangster.
I thought that was pretty impressive.
I like the Louis t-shirts too.
No, I'm getting FOMO.
Really?
Alex, he made you buy that Louis t-shirt?
You know he did, bro. Alex does not wear that type of shit, bro. You crazy?
Hmm. I mean, you start attracting the wrong people.
Bro, the chain. All that shit is Mickey Mouse. He does not, bro. He's a t-shirt. Oh Like you knew where this I'm like, okay, whatever I look good, dude. Oh
I always look good Jason. I saw that fresh
When you guys were getting haircuts, you know, in fact
Oh, I'm the Colombians cut hair like no no one's business. I love good ball Well, they do shave and every they be fucking you up though. This is the first time
Fuck me up, bro. This is the first time you actually got a cool a cool. Hey Alex doesn't look chop. Stop it. He doesn't look chopped. Okay. Okay
We have Solana princess and nurse in the listener section as well as Ellie
Everyone's now tuning in what's going going on at Solana Breakpoint?
I don't know how to say this
other than that I'm more bullish on Binance Week
than I was on Solana Breakpoint.
Is that wrong to say?
It's very valid, I think.
It's your opinion.
Well, you put out a poll, Big Cuz,
and what is your, what are the results so far? Big Cuz didn't like it, but I think it's your opinion well you put out a poll because and what is your what are the results so far
because they don't like it but i think that's valid that's right no i i don't i don't care
just trolling and engaging but yeah i'm getting a lot of binance blockchain weeks
weeks.
How many Arab words did you learn, Alex?
None.
None?
Man, Rita didn't teach you nothing, bro?
Damn.
Rita thought he could drink with us, and then he passed out.
Then Cozy the caller the next day is like,
oh yeah, I'll drink with you. He passed out too.
I don't know what these people are thinking.
Idiots.
What was that thing that that guy was wearing in his hair?
I have long hair.
I don't wear a babushka.
What was that thing?
A babushka?
A babushka?
Are you talking about street debt?
Yeah.
What's that?
What's that?
What's that?
Sir.
Have you guys been watching the live stream at all?
You got to do more of it, bro.
You got to do more of it.
Yeah, that was fun, man. I agree. You got to do more. The live stream. You got to do more of it. Yeah, that was fun, man.
I agree.
You got to do more.
The live stream?
I don't think it's very fun.
And also, I think that content creating in crypto is retarded.
I've come to the agreeance that, like, content creating in crypto is dumb.
Well, Curtis is...
Yeah, I think you're off on that.
What do you mean?
I think it was fun, bro.
It was fun. I mean, yeah. We I think you're off on that. What do you mean? I think it was fun, bro. It was fun.
We just need better.
We just
We need better? You guys realize that Curtis was the biggest
Vines content
creator maybe of all time
and he's here on the speaker panel. Who are you going to get
that's bigger and better?
They're here.
Bro, you have to give the phone to Street that and let him stream you, bro.
Because Alex looked crazy, bro.
Especially when he had the...
We're forced onto people sometimes by some of these blockchains and shit.
Oh, yeah.
Solana makes it a point to force content creators onto us.
Yes, I agree.
Solana does this.
That's a Solana-specific thing.
Binance doesn't.
For example, Curtis.
I've never seen his content.
No offense, Curtis.
Now I follow him.
I bet you have, bro, back in the day on Instagram.
You probably have.
Yeah.
I'll talk about crypto content.
Crypto content. I haven't yet.
But the point I'm trying to make is
the dumbest shit
breaks onto my algorithm because
it's forced onto us
through InfoFi
campaigns and shit like that.
Like certain people in certain accounts.
InfoFi is a big issue.
When has content
ever got people to buy
the token?
I think
I think
what's his name does a good job.
Like the look token.
I think his content's got people participating.
Yeah.
Azadi's really good.
Yeah, I think he's producing some of the best content out there.
Azadi for the win.
Azadi's a huge content creator he's like on mr beast level with the way he makes his content i started laughing at it like when you first said that but no i was wrong is that good for this space
it's top notch 100 percent he's literally literally competing with a drunk, drug addict, dwarf,
dwarf and elf from Liverpool.
Like that's the, you have that as an option, you know,
a drunk midget Liverpool elf all day,
or you have high quality content from Azadi.
I try talking to him.
High quality content, I might add.
I try talking to him, Jason. I just can't.
It's interesting.
It's the worst.
Are you talking about James Wynn?
Azadi. Yeah, I'm talking about James Wynn? Azadi!
Yeah, I'm talking about James Wynn.
The dwarf guy.
Yeah, drunken dwarf
elf and liver prince.
Yeah, no, we need better content creators,
not fucking people
pretending they're dying and shit
and all this kids.
I don't know what crypto needs,
but it's just continuously getting smaller.
Every day I feel like we'd lose another 5, 10 people.
Crypto market is a sponge, Alex.
If we don't get QE,
well, it's going to be dry until we get QE.
It's a sponge that's dry.
That's how I think about it.
People are only going to get more desperate.
That's it.
Well, we have Curtis here.
Curtis can save the day.
He can go viral and then push something. I guess that's what you guys are saying like the virality
make the person go viral then share content I don't understand the content side of things
because if it was true the content will make a higher market cap I mean Trev goes viral all the
time and the market cap isn't that high.
I like when the content shows you how to use something, maybe.
Like more educational.
It could be funny or whatever, but if it's functional.
I enjoy your live streams.
Content is one piece, but also you have a mission.
Yeah, you have emissions, tokenomics, liquidity,
blockchain that it's currently on.
Is there a multi-chain infrastructure?
I mean, yeah, making content and then people buying it,
why do they hold it afterwards?
Can they use it for anything?
And it's like going to watch a funny movie, you know?
Like I saw that Red One movie.
It was funny, it was was nice but afterwards i'm
not going to pay to watch it again so like i think content is important it's a big piece to it but
it's just a piece to it there has to be a lot more structure to it otherwise it's just going to go up
and go down again yeah and on solana we have all these bots and shit that's why i was bringing up aster with
no gas fee do you guys not think that that might help like the situation with like people sniping
and everything i feel like we don't know how it'll work exactly but alex i don't know how the fee
it just says no fees
so I don't and there might be like
there has to be like network fees
I don't know maybe they're like
what's that I mean someone has to pay
someone has to pay
for the network to
transact
yeah the
validators are going to get paid
from Astrodex fees yeah they probably don't need to Yeah, the validators are going to get paid from AstraZeneca fees.
Yeah, they probably don't need to because I would assume that the majority of those LP pools on Uniswap, PancakeSwap are them.
And those are bringing in a lot of money.
So they probably talked about the amount of money those are bringing in and who knows how much they're supplying to those pools and
Probably a big marketing decision to make it a zero fee chain
Especially if all the fees are getting from other locations like those decentralized pools on
Pancake swap and uni swap
Yep Well breakpoint is again tomorrow they told me i need to network with people i'm like dude who am i gonna network like i i talked to the fucking i totally quote tweets me like every
other day like what am i gonna do network with people I network with? I know everyone.
In Binance, I networked with people.
I got to talk to the opinions team.
I didn't know them.
Obviously, you got to meet with the Aster team,
the 4Meme team.
These are very strong teams in crypto.
I already know all the teams on Solana.
The Camino Finance team is the strongest team on Solana.
And I'm like, I've already done everything I need to do with networking with them.
I guess the Pump Fund team would be the strongest team on Solana,
but they're not even here.
They just rugged you guys and left.
Where did Pump Fund go?
Can someone tell me why Pump Fund? What's up with that?
They're just gone?
Bro, they're gone.
They're gone.
What's going on with that?
They're not even at Breakpoint, right?
I don't even see them at Breakpoint.
No, I don't see them.
There was a guy walking around with a PumpFun shirt on,
but I was like, is this guy just rocking
PumpFun merch and they're not
working at PumpFun? I couldn't find him.
Probably just a bag holder.
I've seen the account tweet, I think.
We got Deviled Megs in the listener section.
She's at Breakpoint.
She attended.
She's a BC game baddie.
She's one of the BC game baddies.
They got a lot of them.
It's so much fun being around them.
I don't know if they're going to come to the speaker section or not,
but I'd like to see what they think of Solana break point.
the problem is I'm just going to be super bearish.
If I'm super honest,
there was a reason why I was punching the fucking thing for four hours.
I didn't talk to anyone.
We were just having fun.
Cause we got to be,
I walked through the whole event.
I'm like, that's a scam.
That's a scam.
That right there, that's a scam.
Oh, I'm going to stream it in their face.
There's an OpenSea booth.
And I was like, where's the OpenSea token?
And then he was like, oh, the OpenSea guy's not here.
I'm like, what's he doing?
Is he scamming or something?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But the only thing I like. You got me laughing laughing so hard alex i'm not even playing literally i was laughing
so hard the only thing i liked at solana was the bc games and crypto fight night punching bag like
that's it there was nothing in there that was like wow i'm so bullish on this team and then when i
look at binance bro let me tell you about the teams on Binance, right?
You have Opinions,
which is the biggest prediction market now.
Then you have Aster,
which is the number one centralized exchange.
And then you have Four Meme.
So you have these super strong teams.
And then I look at Solana, like, what's Solana team?
And I even asked Neverguin.
I'm like, well, what are you bullish on Solana?
Well, you know, like,
he couldn't even give me anything. I'm like, what are you bullish on so well you know like you're just you can't even give me anything i'm like exactly dude so come to the punching
bag tomorrow with me and we'll just punch that thing for four hours until break point ends and
we'll leave and then i'll go to a side event yeah yeah i'll go to a side event it'll be a complete
sausage fest nothing wrong with a good sausage fest i always say but they're gonna come and
like people are telling me about how the greatest dude on the planet like i give a fuck i'm like wrong with a good sausage fest I always say but they're gonna come and like
people are telling me about how the greatest dude on the planet like I give
a fuck I'm like dude I don't care so I don't know I don't know what I'm gonna
just gonna punch the damn machine tomorrow that's all I'm gonna do is sit
there and just keep on hitting it yeah we had the most people at the whole venue
at that at that punching thing it was was so fucking funny. Tomorrow I'm going to livestream all of it.
Oh, I can't wait.
Do you guys know if Deviled Megs speaks on space?
Does anyone know?
That's my alt account.
Didn't you see her in Breakpoint?
I did.
She is an affiliate for BC Games.
I was around all the BC Game people.
I'm trying to get myself affiliated at the moment.
They won't give me a badge for some reason.
How do you...
I don't know.
I wonder how she got that.
You got to be a baddie.
I'm telling you right now,
BC Games is going to take over.
They're aggressively marketing
in different sectors
that no one knows about.
I didn't realize how big
their Chinese team was.
It's huge.
They have a huge Chinese.
It's bigger than
the United States presence.
I don't even think people
give a fuck
about the United States presence
is where it comes down to.
It's like,
well, fuck,
if we capture the east
they're much bigger in crypto than the west but we're in our own echo chamber so we think oh we
got deviled deviled what were your thoughts on the event so far so i think we met each other at
ferrari world bc games put on for our world and then we got one then we got to meet at the event last night.
I don't know.
It was hosted by BC Game.
Checked out the biggest venue in Abu Dhabi.
Did you have fun there?
It was a blast.
I'm exhausted, though.
I'm, like, dead from Ferrari World and then the party last night,
and it was all I could do to make it to break point today
and I didn't get to see a whole lot.
Honestly, I was thinking about,
I don't know if I'm going to go back tomorrow
and try to check out more of the booths and stuff
because I didn't, I don't know,
I just didn't have the energy.
Were you here for B&B week?
No, I missed it.
What do you think of break points so far?
I was disappointed today.
I think a lot of people were.
But I do want to go back tomorrow.
I think it'll be less crowded and then just kind of give it another shot.
But like you said, the punching bag.
What was disappointing?
There just wasn't a whole lot going on.
And like I said, I didn't โ like the one โ I stood in line to get some card for some cards, I don't know, app.
And then I stood there for like 45 minutes.
It got to be my turn and then they were out of cards.
So I don't really know even what that was about.
So stuff like that.
And then, yeah, like there was nobody at the OpenSea.
I don't even think there was anyone at the Pudgy booth when I stopped by that.
Which I love Pudgy.
Yeah, I love Pudgy, so I was like, you know, I took a picture.
Pudgy's Pudgy.
I don't know.
Yeah.
But I'll probably give it another shot tomorrow because I was just really tired too
so it could have been that
yeah I don't know Alex
what you said you were not loving it
well from BNB week to Solana break point
I think the teams were much stronger at Binance
that's what I got
like I think they're great I just think they're better at Binance. That's what I got. I think they're great.
I just think they're better on Binance.
That's all.
And you know what did the best side events
was BC Games.
It's not even close.
I went to an event tonight.
I don't know if I want to say the name of the event.
Which one did you go?
Yeah, I don't want to say it
because it's so bad.
It was so bad.
And I'm thinking, I got spoiled by'm thinking, I got spoiled by BC Games.
So I don't even know if those BC Games were, like, side events or, like, a main event.
Like, they're checking out on the venue.
Like, you know, it's huge.
No one else did anything like this.
How long have you been at BC Games?
I've been with them since May.
May?
May, yeah, so a pretty good while.
Just like creating content,
and then I've been streaming with them since August.
But I just do live streams.
I don't normally, I know you were asking
if I normally speak on Spaces,
and I don't normally speak on Spaces.
You normally don't speak on spaces?
You don't like spaces?
I don't know.
I think we talked about this.
I feel like we talked about this in person.
Did we?
I think so.
If it was last night, I don't remember anything.
I don't remember anything.
No, it wasn't last night.
No, it wasn't last night.
I don't remember anything from last night.
If I was disrespectful or rude to anyone, if I was just, I didn't mean it.
Did you remember trying to like climb over into the VIP section from the, like, I don't know what you were standing on.
Yeah, security kept trying to grab me.
And I was like, get off me, bro.
Like, it's fine.
Like, there was like this little stand.
I'm like, it's stable for me to stand on.
I always want to, like, jump around on this thing.
And he's like, you can't jump on that.
Security was following me around the entire night.
Yeah.
We were having too much fun.
Yeah, I was afraid you were going to get kicked out.
Alex, that was before the phone thing or after that was were you there till the very end devil no i don't know she missed the
phone thing bro she missed it so someone someone mistakenly stole my phone. What?
Yeah, but I got it back.
I took it out of their pocket.
And then I kind of like yelled at him.
I said, why the fuck are you stealing my phone?
And then I said, take a selfie with me right now.
So I take a selfie with him just to remember who it was.
I walked out.
Books is like, well, what happened, bro? What happened? I'm like like someone tried taking my phone and he's like well let's go get him so then
i'm at this book books is firing me up i'm like dude i already de-escalated
i was d it was de-escalated right i was chill i was calm situation over books re-gaslights the
situation then i come in.
And then I'm really in this dude's face yelling at him about taking my phone.
Then we go outside.
They eventually, like, break us up.
Then we go outside.
I'm waiting for him at this point.
Books got me gaslit off a fucking cliff at this point.
I'm so pissed off.
Uh-huh.
Did you check your phone, bro?
And then he comes out. I start pointing at him like
at his face I get my finger my index finger like two inches from his face I said he's a fucking
scammer like I'm screaming everyone's outside right because everyone had to come outside that
the event was over and I'm screaming like he's a fucking scammer everyone be careful he's gonna
steal your shit like just yelling all sorts of fucking crazy
then then i've got like security grabbing me again they're pulling me away from the guy
because they're afraid i'm gonna hit him at this point and then his his other friend comes up he's
like look look look it's a different phone like it wasn't my phone so i have like a silver iphone
with a black case and he's showing me like look there's he has this phone and they're showing me like almost an identical phone but it was impossible for that to happen the way but it was it was embarrassing to
say at least everyone was like looking at me double check your phone bro like hang on did he
actually have your phone or no yes yeah 100 so i'm i yes so i was taking pictures with everyone
and then i gave my phone to the person to take pictures.
I gave someone my phone to take pictures of people with me.
And then whenever he's getting ready to hand it back, this guy steps in front of me and takes the phone.
And he puts it in his pocket like it's his, right?
And I'm just thinking to myself, he didn't just do that shit.
So I give him 10 seconds.
I act like a fucking retard.
And I'm like, hey, does anyone have my phone?
I haven't seen it.
And then nothing happens.
So then I just grab him, and then I rip it out of his pants pocket.
And that's when I start cursing at him in his face.
I gave him time to...
He was probably just confused.
No, no, no, no.
He thought I was drunk, in my opinion.
And he was just going to steal my phone and take me for a while.
You might have cloned that shit, bro.
Not possible. It didn't happen. Did you check wall. You might have cloned that shit, bro. Not possible.
It didn't happen.
Did you check your hidden apps, too?
Yeah, yeah.
He had it in his pocket for like 10 seconds
before I took it out of his pocket.
And then I posted his picture on the internet.
Like, right after this happened, I said,
at FBI, this person's a fucking scammer.
And no one knew who it was.
And then I didn't see him
and then i didn't see him at breakpoint either so that was very weird so i'm just thinking this guy
goes to crypto events and tries to people find people that are drunk and steals from them
that's that's it's probably bigger than that he goes to a crypto event he's probably trying to get
in the phone yeah they were doing that you look for Yeah. You look for him today?
You look for him today, Alex?
Oh, 100%.
100% I'm looking for him.
Man, Amp's life cracks me up
every time.
But it was a great event
up until that very moment.
Yeah.
I had a blast.
I'm glad I missed that.
It was embarrassing.
Oh my God.
How long did it take books
to get ready before y'all went to
Abahabi? Oh my
God. He's like a female.
We're late to
everything. Devil, you were
at 4-Hard of World before us, right?
How long did it take?
I was late.
You were late?
You were more late than us?
I came from Dubai.
I stayed extra there
because I had an event the night before.
So I was...
When do you leave Abu Dhabi?
The 13th.
The 13th.
Oh, so you're going to be here for a while.
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just me I know Aaron will be here um other than that I don't know who else who's Aaron the blonde broker
oh the blonde broker yeah she made a video she made a video with me today and I'm with the bonk
mascot and I'm referring to it as whiff and I'm with the Bonk mascot,
and I'm referring to it as Whiff,
and I'm talking about how it's going to be on the sphere in Vegas, and everyone needs to buy this token right now.
It's so fucking funny.
And I was like, oh, my God, we got Whiff.
We got dog Whiff hat here.
This is the fucking most bullish event I've ever been to.
Everyone go buy Whiff right now.
It's going to be on the sphere in Vegas.
Ansem told me.
She's recording me do this shit.
Oh my god.
And you're going to be there tomorrow?
You're going back?
I don't know what.
I'm going to be in the punching machine.
Did you see the punching machine?
Did you punch the machine?
I didn't punch it.
Oh, you got to punch it tomorrow.
I don't know. Erin said I was to punch it tomorrow. I don't know.
Erin said I was new.
And she said I hurt her hand.
And I'm like, well, fuck it.
She's a boxer.
I don't know about that.
So we'll see.
Maybe.
Maybe.
How many tries you got in today, Alex?
How many tries, bro?
Like, probably like four or five.
That's it?
That's too many. They won't stop hitting it. Three fucking that's too bro they won't stop hitting it amp i'm like yo let me hit it one time they don't
start still on it yeah bro they they want to set the record so bad because you get a thousand
dollars so i come in and i'm so pissed off that i'm hitting it even harder now it's like i've
been waiting so long to hit this goddamn thing, because Book's got to hit it 20 times, and
one time, just one time, Amp,
he got to like 950, but
it wasn't...
Nah, nah, he rigged it, bro.
How can you hit 10 times
and 9 times you're doing
600. All of a sudden you do 9.
That shit is Mickey Mouse, bro.
I was trying to get Alex fired up.
What do you...
Devil, what do you think of...
Do you play at any other crypto casino?
I don't.
I never did, but no.
Now I don't because I just do PC Game.
It's definitely the best.
I need to learn more about their token.
In my opinion, that event they hosted wasn't like an $80 million market cap token event.
That was like a 2 billion, it gave me like 2 billion market cap vibe.
Like how are you doing all that?
They had the biggest, what is it?
Who was the guy?
Who was the, who was the major league gamer that was there?
Do you know who I'm talking about?
Oh, I know who you're talking about, but I actually didn't meet him.
Cause he was over in the other section.
I don't, I don't know.
He plays video games, but I know who you're talking about, but I don't know his name.
Yeah, they have this guy as the
ambassador.
Like the biggest, I don't know if he's
Fortnite or what game he's playing or
Valorant. I don't remember
what game he is, but he's number one in the world
in live streaming. And he's a
BC game ambassador. Then had some
BMXer. It's like
Simple. Simple O. Yep oh yep simple that's it
does anyone know this person simple anyone ever heard of this person
let me see what he played simple oh counter strike two professional counter strike two player
uh from bc game sports counter strike oh my god i gotta follow this guy from BC Games Sports. Count and strike? Oh, my God.
I got to follow this guy.
I mean, I'm being told he's one of the top, if not the top.
I mean, you guys can go look at this dude's engagement.
I'll pin it to the top.
He has insane engagement.
Mike, you just sounded like you had a hard-on with some CSGO, buddy.
Jesus Christ.
Well, I'm just saying they're covering
market share that no one probably even
knows about.
There's mad people that gamble
on CSGO.
Dude, some of those
skins are fucking off the chain, too.
Some of them are going for
a lot of fucking money.
I had like $5,000
in skins on there
yeah my buddy just sold one of the i don't know one of the first season
rarity ones and i think he got about 2800 bucks fucking wild yeah no i i i put uh my one of my
knives and like one of those like jackpot games. It's like a casino for the fucking
skins, and I fucking won
30 game skins.
Me, I'm not much of a gamer.
I'm playing Battlefield 6 right now, but
fuck Call of Duty and their bullshit.
Reprinting the same game.
You wonder why your sales are only at
12,000 copies in the EU. Tellrinting the same game. You wonder why your sales are only at 12,000 copies
in the EU. Tell me how you really feel.
They can
fucking suck this big old fat
fucking guy. There you go.
Sorry. No, you're fine.
What'd you say?
What'd you say, Crow?
Oh, I said they can fucking...
I already kicked you. Sorry about that.
Deviled, did you go to breakpoint before
no this was my first time this was my first uh international crypto conference i've only been in
u.s who's your favorite person from bc? I don't have a favorite.
I love everybody.
I can't pick.
You definitely have a favorite.
I can hear you.
No, I don't have a favorite.
Wait, let's see.
I mean, I'm obviously closer with some of the girls than I am with others just because I know them better.
But, you know, just because I've known them longer.
Why doesn't Alex have a necessarily a bunch?
I think I was the first streamer. I was the first one of us to stream,
just start streaming and then I think and then Annabelle.
But yeah, it's hard to, you can't pick a favorite.
What did you say?
Annabelle's your favorite?
No, I said she was the second one to stream.
Like I was the first streamer for them and then she started streaming.
And so I just, I know her better than some of the others. And then I know Tima really well.
Tima's your favorite your favorite no i don't
have a favorite i like team and she's cool you're my favorite like devil my favorite
i was staying with teama um in the hotel the last couple nights and so i got to know her better
and so I got to know her better.
She could be a tour guide over there.
Did you go to Bitcoin Minna?
No, I didn't know.
Because it was the same day as when we went to Friday World, right?
And then the next day, I don't know.
My days are all fucked up.
But no, I missed that. I heard it was no good what time are you going to break what time is break point
open we didn't go there till super late I didn't get there till late today too um
I don't know we we got there like maybe two 2 or 3 p.m.
We were really late.
Now, if a guy wanted to get your number deviled, how would he go about doing it?
My phone number?
Yes.
I don't know. I feel like that would be difficult.
Really?
Do a lot of guys hit on you at these crypto events?
I mean, yeah, it happens.
But I don't know.
I mean, I think it's different.
I have friends who are guys, and I give them my phone numbers.
This was a question from the audience, just so we're clear.
Heavy asked, ask Devil Mags what a guy should say to get her number.
Oh, my Lord.
If it's a complete stranger, that's going to be a very long shot.
I think that's what I'm going to do tomorrow
is do those types of interviews.
I don't know what I'm going to do with this event tomorrow.
I don't know what to do.
We were punching the bag the whole day.
That's all we did.
We sat there and punched the bag all day.
That's all we did.
What did you do?
What did you do during the event?
I walked around with Annabelle to a couple of things
and then I stood in that line for 45 minutes waiting on that stupid card that I didn't get.
So maybe I'll go back and try to get that card.
It's like they put your picture on it. I'm not quite sure.
And then we watched the robot thing, the robot fighting.
I watched the punching bag for a little bit, and then I left.
So I wasn't there super long, but I don't know. I'm debating, I'm debating to go back or not. Did you go to any events after?
Oh, I've been so tired. I'm exhausted. No, I was, I was going to go to one, but I ended up not. I think tomorrow, I think Magic Eden is having an event tomorrow that I might go to.
Tragic Eden's having an event?
Yeah.
I knew you were going to say something.
I know.
You should go to that event, Alex.
I'm going to go to that event.
Oh, I can now.
Are you going to stream it?
I mean, I can.
There's nothing.
So Magic Eden is launching their own.
They're launching their own casino.
Are they?
Yeah, dicey.
That sounds dicey.
Okay, well, the event is like a White Lotus event.
That's the only reason I want to go.
Like, based off the show.
Did you watch that?
What is it called?
White Lotus.
No, I haven't.
It's on HBO.
Okay.
Yeah, it's kind of girly.
I wouldn't...
Probably not many people here have seen that.
But I think...
Who do you live stream with so i do by myself or i do sometimes with annabelle
i'm done with timo once or twice i mostly annabelle and then occasionally we'll do
like a big bigger stream with um bullish traderader, me, Jay Chains, Annabelle Fran, Blonde Broker.
We'll do, I think it's Monday, it's either Sunday Night Football or Monday Night Football.
And then we'll all kind of just take turns sharing our screen and playing and talking about the game and stuff.
So that's fun. Can we live stream together? We can live stream together, yeah.
I like streaming. I don't know. I don't know why. I just, I like it a lot better than Spaces.
Me too.
I feel like streaming...
Maybe because I like to have a plan.
Like, I'm a planner, so I like to kind of have a plan and go with things.
And just everything doesn't have to follow a plan, obviously.
But I feel like sometimes spaces just get lost.
It just, for live streaming to me, doesn't make sense for crypto for crypto like we were live streaming a few months back and i just i'm i'm just a shameless shiller like i'm just gonna shill
tokens that's all i do like i don't i don't know how to do content
yeah i guess it's well but no like you're like doing like the interviews and stuff i think
that's fun i think that's fun content you could do wait did we interview you yet we did okay
when we were at ferrari world were you at no who was asking the questions were you asking people
questions we were like sitting there at that table. Somebody was streaming.
Oh, they had cameras all on us.
Yeah, I didn't even know.
Julia and Nala just set a camera up on a stand and put it at her face and walked away.
I didn't realize.
And then how do you say the other person's name?
I can't say the person's name.
It's Allie.
Allie Onida. Yeah. Yep yep she's got a camera in her face
and i'm like yo let me put these cameras back in your face allie oneta and she said no and
she wouldn't let me but she's allowed to put it in my face yeah i don't know. I said, girl, don't put that camera in my face.
But no, you asked good questions.
Yeah, you asked me.
You asked Annabelle and somebody else maybe.
I don't know.
But stuff like that I think would be good content.
I mean, realistically, I think we could pump BC game token, but we need to get more clarification on maybe like a buyback and burn.
I mean, realistically, I think we could pump BC game token.
They do buyback.
Did you look at the white paper?
I think Annabelle sent it in one of our chats.
I don't know.
Go check.
I mean, if that's the case,
if they're really doing buyback and burns,
that's a very undervalued token.
And we could start pushing it hard.
Yeah, I'm almost certain,
but I need to look at the white paper
before I start saying stuff that isn't true.
So I'll double check, but that's what she told me.
Yep.
Well, who on the team, I don't know if we can dox any of this or if you know any of this.
I don't know.
Because I've been trying to figure out who the founders are
and I don't think they're doxed.
I can talk to you later about who I...
I'll talk to you later.
Okay.
No, it's fine.
I don't want to get in any trouble then if that's the case.
But I want to do like one day AMA the founder and hear what their vision is
because I've never seen a crypto casino.
They got partnered with like soccer teams, MLG person, a BMXer, cricket team.
Yeah.
There's a lot of people.
NFL also.
NFL's involved?
Well, because Antonio Brown, he's partnered with BC Game because I don't think โ he doesn't play football anymore, but he's โ he reached out to me recently wanting to do content for BC.
And he used to play for Stillers, I think.
Yeah.
What does BC stand for?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
Abby said BC game, open up the wallet.
The token isn't going to pump itself.
So he's saying that they should buy back
the token. I mean, if pump itself so he's saying that they should buy back the token
i mean if they do like that's how rollbit sent theirs they had a buy back and burn mechanism
and they allow and then they allowed the the people that were playing on the site
if you're holding a certain percentage you get more rake back and it's and that's really worth it if you gamble a lot so having like a rake back
that's tied to the token or a buy back and burn and it's at 80 mil that's not an 80 mil token
that's not an 80 mil team it's not 80 mil anywhere everywhere i look it's it's more than 80 mil
so i don't think also people don't know like because we don't do spaces and that's what i
was saying to jana the other day i was like i think we should start even though people don't know because we don't do spaces. And that's what I was saying to Jaina the other day.
I was like, I think we should start, even though I don't like really doing space, I was like, I think we should start doing spaces at least weekly or something.
Because people come to more spaces.
It's easier to listen to spaces.
You know, you're driving and stuff.
It's harder to watch people stream.
Interactive, too.
That's what sucks about streams.
No one is that cool or important in Web3 that we just harder to watch people stream. Interactive, too. That's what sucks about streams. No one is that
cool or important in Web3 that we just want
to stare at you. But Spaces
can come up with us to have a panel.
Yeah.
For sure.
I think that's a big benefit.
Speaking to the legend himself.
Alex.
Get a badge, bro.
What is it?
Get a badge, an. What is it? Get a badge,
an X badge for BC Games
and hold some spaces for them.
They won't give me one.
Day three?
They won't give me.
A betting for a BC Games badge.
I'm just adding more days now
to make it look even more ridiculous.
We're on day eight now.
Do a selfie a day until they give you a badge.
What does BC Games
stand for? Booby content.
That's why he doesn't have a badge.
All the other guys have badges.
The guys have badges.
Never mind.
I'm sure. I'm sure.
I'm sure.
I don't know.
I approached Ellie and I was like,
hey, can I get an affiliate badge?
And she told me, you know, we're having problems
with our system.
Just for me.
Twitter?
I think she's just being very polite.
No, I think she's being very polite and just is not just going to say.
Yeah, I think she's being polite.
I really like Allie.
Does everyone know Allie?
She's really chill.
I don't think everyone in the panel knows Allie.
Yeah, I don't think so.
She's really nice.
Because she streams from the BC game account.
Oh, that's her?
Her and I don't know how to say the guy's name.
Yikes?
Yes.
I just call him Yikes.
Yeah, it's her and Yikes.
That's what I'm going to call him too.
They stream from that account.
And I think that they run, I guess they do the content for that account
or maybe he does more.
So I'm not quite sure.
But that's another thing.
Maybe just getting, I don't know, the account, the main account
to start reposting more of our stuff and our streams and content
and all of that would help.
And then I didn't even know there's a BC Game Queen account that they just,
somebody made, they made, I don't know, that they're posting on.
I just saw it today.
I was like, what?
I didn't even know this existed.
So I don't know who's running that.
BC Game Queen.
If you go to the BC
Game and then you click on affiliates,
I want to know someone
who knows an account that has
more affiliates than BC Game.
If you just
keep on scrolling and there's just
some... Oh yeah, BC Game. They just made a
new account. What is this?
Nope.
Okay, I see what they're doing here.
They're really
pushing
pretty girls.
Tying their brand to pretty girls.
That's the one in strategy.
Crypto is doing that.
They are, aren't they?
They only want one thing.
Like they had the polymarket baddies or whatever
it was called.
They're all doing this tactic.
You know?
It's a good time
to be a girl in crypto.
Yeah. I mean, it's a good time to be a girl in crypto. Yeah, I mean, it's a good tactic, obviously.
There's simp baiting and rage baiting are popular right now.
That's how I heard about BC Game, because of this.
Well, they had a lot of girls.
I was like, what is going on with this account?
Why are there so many girls showing this casino?
I started looking into it. That's how they got me.
Do you take it more serious than less serious
when you see that?
Well, the girls
they have involved with it are very serious crypto
girls. They know what
the hell they're talking about. If you can talk to
Deviled right now about crypto, she'll know more than
a lot of the guys.
Exactly.
They're going to come up here and they're going to just... right now about crypto, she'll know more than a lot of the guys, most of the guys. Exactly. Like Jonna,
they're going to come up here and they're going to just
tell you about crypto. It's not just like a pretty
face. Some products don't do the opposite.
We've all been in crypto so long.
What is that?
I said some products, just do
the pretty face thing first.
I don't know.
I think everyone who works with us has been
in crypto for years.
Yeah, not you guys.
BC's
the real deal.
Where these other ones, yeah, I don't...
But there's only so many
deviled eggs out there.
Devil mags, sorry. But there's only so many
out there. You're going to sorry. But there's only so many out there, you know,
you're going to resort to people that just don't
know about crypto, you know.
Or sports betting
or meme coins or whatever the fuck
they're shilling.
Yep. When is Sophia and
Kara going to join BC Games is the real
question.
Whenever they want
me to.
Really? What does that involve
I don't know
an affiliate badge
I don't know
that's a good brand to work with
VC game they built a really good brand
I would
Definitely
They've been around since 2017
So it's one of the biggest
Crypto games
I did not know they were here since 2017
Yeah
It's been a really long time
What can you do on the site? I've actually never been on it
I mean
They have more games than most casinos.
They have live tables, sports betting.
Can I play poker there?
Yeah, you can play poker.
You can do blackjack live.
You can do all that.
Can you play with other people?
Can you play with Texas Holden?
Can you what?
Play with other people for poker?
Yeah.
Other people can sit at the tables, yeah.
All right, I'm in.
Those are the tables.
Sounds good.
Use my link.
It's somewhere.
It's in my...
I'll find it.
One of my posts.
Buried.
Just call dibs.
I'll use yours.
They should host a Texas Hold'em tournament.
Yeah, I'm playing one right now.
BC game, hook it up.
I love Texas Hold'em.
We should have a space, Alex, with us playing it.
Texas Hold'em?
Hell yeah.
I asked them a month ago.
I know, and I asked BC game. So I'm waiting to hear back.
Like they might be able to do it.
We might be able to get a big tournament going.
If we can justify it.
I'm sure there were numbers.
Like, yeah, we're going to have over 100 people signed up.
Something like that.
To justify.
We should just do it amongst us.
At first.
Try it out.
I mean, I've done them many times.
They do really well.
Oh, yeah.
I did one in crypto, and it did really well.
Just one. One Texas Hold'em.
Yeah, Alex, let's do it.
Okay, well, I'll ask him again today.
But I think it'd do really well.
I'll ask them about it.
Yeah, I agree.
I love Taisa's Hold'em.
That's the only game I'll play.
But I feel weird.
I don't want to play poker on stream.
I think that's weird.
People can see your cards.
Yeah, that's retarded.
Unless you just don't show the cards on stream at all.
Then what are we doing?
It's hard to stream that.
Did Annabelle leave already?
A lot of people already left.
She's leaving
tomorrow.
Tomorrow she's leaving.
But everybody else, yeah.
She's leaving.
You're staying longer, though.
What's today?
I didn't know about...
I don't know how I didn't know about BNB week,
or I would have came earlier.
I feel dumb that I didn't know.
So I just ended up staying later.
But that's okay.
Maybe next year.
I don't know.
I'm tired, though.
I think I'm going to head to bed so that I can try to, I don't know, make it to this thing.
I don't know.
I'll message you, Alex, and see if you're going to be there or not.
Have a good night. Have a good night. I'll see you at breakpoint tomorrow. I'm going to bed as well.
Appreciate it. Good night, guys. Good night. Good night, everyone. Good night. Good night, guys.
