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With the advisor, you hear me?
Yeah, really good to be here.
Episode 96 of the Stacks DeFi Show.
I think Grant is joining soon as well to talk a bit about Pillar.
But this is the place where we talk about all new things that are happening across the Stacks ecosystem on a weekly basis.
So yeah, we're happy to be here and welcome to anyone listening as well as listening to the recording of this.
And yeah, this is basically the space where all the DeFi builders get together,
And yeah, this is basically the space where all the DeFi builders get together,
currently hosted by the Stacks handle who just asks us to mention one thing,
which is that everything that we say here is for informational purposes only
and should not be considered financial advice.
But other than that, we have full free reign here.
It's the place where the builders come together and share updates and answer questions and anything you want to do.
We might have a bit of a quick one today, but yeah, excited to dive in.
So let's do some quick intros.
I'm Tycho, co-founder of Zest Protocol, the largest DeFi protocol on Stacks in terms of TVL and the BorrowLand protocol of the Stacks network.
And yeah, the unique thing about Zest Protocol for users is that you can earn up to 45% yield on your BTC, BTC on BTC yield. So that's, you know, sustainably or how would you say that?
That's consistently one of the highest ranked Bitcoin yields
according to the Bitcoin Yield Twitter account.
So very, very proud of that and very excited to, you know,
share that core primitive with the world through stacks, right? Earning yield on your BTC. And yeah, handing it over to the advisor.
Hey everyone. And by the way, Taiko, killer. I would not be able to join in the last second
the DeFi space this time, but we'll jump early next week, just a heads up.
But regarding myself, I'm the advisor.
For those of you that don't know me,
I create content about Stacks,
pick on DeFi on my Twitter account,
and I also handle marketing activities,
for example, with Zest, StackingDao,
and help the Stacks ecosystem,
I say with general marketing activities.
As usual, I will keep it short and I will let Diego present himself.
Hello, can you guys hear me?
All right, awesome to be here.
I'm Diego, co-founder, chief strategy officer at Biflo.
Biflo is the leading DEX on Stacks.
And also I would consider a Bitcoin native DeFi platform on Stacks as well.
We are building and continue to build the liquidity infrastructure
that powers many of the DeFi protocols.
Liquidity is awesome, but also liquidity needs to flow.
And we offer pools and swaps and the DEX aggregator, all within the Stacks ecosystem.
We're getting ready to launch HODL, which is a concentrated liquidity for Bitcoin.
If you're familiar with Edelbrum or Uniswap v3, but native to Stacks, this would give traders the best execution, zero to low slippage, zero price impact as well.
impact as well and the highest capital efficiency for LPs to continue earning real yield which
I think it's the reason we all are on stacks today and that's a little bit for the intro
I'll dive in as we go along this call thanks for inviting me yeah amazing GP you want to
do a quick intro as well?
Good morning, guys. Happy Tuesday.
Hope everybody's having a very blessed start to their week.
I am GP. I'm the community manager of Zeph's Protocol and Stacking DAO and also the co-host of the Let's Go Morning Show with Deorganized Media.
And yeah, we're having a really good start to the week.
I know things are a little bit volatile right now
and macro conditions are kind of dictating
how the market's moving, but we are bullish as always.
You want to share a quick intro too?
Good morning, guys. How's everybody doing today? I am Peace Love Music, founder
of Deorganized Media and general supporter of Bitcoin and all the things, awesome stuff
being built on stacks, including StackingDAO, Bitflow, and Hermetica I see in the audience.
Lots of great things happening here today.
Great stuff. We have a full house here.
So, yeah, I guess we can dive straight into it.
I pinned a couple of things, but feel free to pin more things
relevant to talk about. But yeah, one thing to mention is strategy has sort of been on
a tear this year. A lot of Bitcoin purchases, which in a difficult market for Bitcoin is
really keeping things up and by extension for Bitcoin L2s.
And yeah, when we look at what has been happening on Zest protocol the past week,
we're still, you know, awaiting the V2 launch that is kind of pending some actions from the Stacks core team.
So that's kind of outside of our control.
We're ready to go live with the V2 and all the updates.
It's, you know, borrowing parameters to really, you know,
help people charge forward with their borrowing positions.
But yeah, we have early access open.
So the first users have already tested the V1 and are, you know,
really liking the new features.
And we'll do more onboarding for the V2 launch and are really liking the new features.
And we'll do more onboarding for the V2 launch as we're getting closer.
And yeah, then SPTC on Zest Protocols is steadily up.
So from 707 SPTC on Zest Protocol to 710.
So, you know, slow, you know, I wouldn't say slow growth.
I mean, very, very strong growth.
But, you know, it's a new all-time high of SBTC on Zest Protocol every day.
And, yeah, just really appreciative of everyone's support so far.
It's about 4.5% yield for BTC, you know, in BTC, on BTC, on Zest Protocol,
which is very, very impressive. And yeah, then, you know, the borrowing kind of, you
know, continues of USDH is slightly up. But the main thing that we'll see this week kind
of looking ahead is that some liquidity is going to start to move from the V1 to the V2. So it's possible that rates could
spike on your stablecoin loans. So if you have any stablecoin loans open, then that's a good
thing to monitor and a good thing to check out. We'll obviously be communicating on the Zest protocol Twitter handle for all the updates there.
What do you have to share for us, the advisor, maybe from the StackingDAO side?
We can pass it over to Dylan, or I see someone pinned something here, a GPSC pinned, but
what's happening on Stacks?
Maybe you two want to talk about that
yeah just i mean for success i think you covered it all and i mean the first third access users
of the v2 so they're playing around and like things are really exciting i would say like
it's going to be the most advanced trading protocol
and it's pretty cool regarding stacking DAO instead,
things are said as usual,
with like 107 million STX still stacked on stacking DAO
and I would expect, as I've said every week, to increase.
So every week I say more STX is going to flow to stack in DAO.
And like the last year, like the amount of STX that have flown to stack in DAO keeps increasing.
So yeah, definitely like if you have some idle STX, I think it's a good moment to the person stack in DAO because you're staking yield.
And memory is also dual staking live.
So you get to boost your yield on SBTC.
So definitely a good moment to take the time
And that's it, I will let,
I mean, regarding what's happening on Stacks,
I will let JPLC take over it,
but basically just an update
of what is happening in the ecosystem,
so everyone can know about what,
the most important facts on stacks yeah there's there's tons taking place in our ecosystem right now uh you know i
went ahead and posted this uh what's happening on stacks and the nest here so you could follow along
um you know we we had our our winners for the early access for v2 selected i do believe
it was hero gamer uh got access so big shout out to hero gamer and uh two others as well um i think
rafa was also one of them so big shout out to rafa uh he's working on pillar which is going to be you you know like a one one click stop for gaining um more exposure on your sbtc uh utilizing these
pass keys that are we're getting integrated into our ecosystem so uh that's pretty cool to see
we've got uh the dora hacks hackathon uh submissions just closed for the usdcx bounty
for the usdcx bounty um you know one lucky winner is gonna win uh you know three thousand bucks from
from a pretty nice prize pool um you know for having the most innovative uh integration of usdc
x uh here in the stacks ecosystem that's pretty cool so uh interested in seeing what type of
that's pretty cool so uh interested in seeing what type of uh different applications we have
built within our ecosystem that utilize this uh you know this tier one stable in our eco
um zest hit a new milestone which is huge uh you know 700 sbtc deposited within the protocol um
you know showing that bitcoiners are uh learning about borrowing and lending and how to
put their you know bitcoin to to work for that high apy you know five percent plus apy for
supplying on zest um getting ready for hbtc vaults with her medica is exciting as well
uh eight percent apy coming out of these vaults. So these different strategies, different ways to put our assets to work.
We also have the HODL MM boot camps ongoing.
So really excited to see other boot camps and other people get involved and activated,
making some content and teaching people how to also come participate
in real Bitcoin DeFi within our ecosystem.
We've got a lot going on.
You know, 2026 is shaping up to be a very, very bullish year for our ecosystem, you know,
including SDX tools, getting their rebrand to narrow and, you know, improving their homepage and their UI with, you know, aiming to be the, you know, all-encompassing Bitcoin analytics platform for the Bitcoin ecosystem.
So we've, it's a lot, it's a lot. It's hard to keep your ear low enough to the ground to catch it all.
But, you know, somehow we capture that every week
and talk about this alpha and Stacks DeFi show.
I think it's a really nice summary, of course,
using always these articles, which have been really great
from the StackingDAO account, so definitely give that a follow if you want to stay up to date,
async on everything that's happening in the Stack's ecosystem.
And Diego, how's it going with the HODL MM? What's new?
Things are moving pretty fast.
Just a segue to what GP was saying,
that the BFF Army, its BFF.army portal is up.
And that is an opportunity for people to get head start and learn everything about the HODL before it launches.
It is a community-powered educational hub for Bitcoin DeFi.
Not only HODL and Biflo, but we expect to be doing diverse bootcamps.
I know no one hosted one last week covering dual staking, Hermetica Zest, StackingDAO.
And I think this is the year to educate more people.
That's how we onboard more users in this very sort of grassroots approach.
But I think we're past three digits APY type of hype.
And now people want real sustainable Bitcoin yield.
And that's what Stacks is here for.
With the HODL, I'd say we're weeks away from launching.
it's a concentrated liquidity engine.
It's a concentrated liquidity engine.
So if you're familiar with Iatodrome or Uniswap V3, for example,
or Meteora, DLMM, as it's called, but we have a better name for it.
And why does this matter, right?
I think Stacks and Biflo and many of the DeFi protocols or all of the DeFi protocols here are not trying to be everything to everyone.
You know, everyone is very laser focused and so are we.
And for us, it's being the best place to swap Bitcoin and offering this liquidity infrastructure that also generates real yield, right? Even right now, before we hold launch huddle,
we have very solid pools such as the Stacks and USDC
And this is all organic trading fees, right?
So that is already the most traded pair.
With USDCX coming on chain, coming to Stacks,
it's a huge unlock. This is i think as we all know
the most important and the most tradable pair in crypto it's usd to bitcoin especially usdc and
usdt and every bitcoin holder needs to be able to move between btc and usd in a stable right
whether they're taking profits buying the dips, hedging against volatility,
or just sort of rebalancing. And right now, most people use centralized exchanges in order to do
that, right? So if you think about the steps that you need to do to go from USDC to native Bitcoin,
or go from a native Bitcoin to a stable, at some point, you're either going to be
going through a centralized exchange or a wrapped version such as WBTC or CBBTC, right? And with
the HODL, the concentrated liquidity, it gives enough depth and a better optimization
for trading this, you know, two important assets,
giving traders best execution in terms of minimal slippage
to zero slippage to zero impact.
Many of the beta users that are testing it out right now
And if you want to participate,
you can join by going to waitlist.biflo.finance. I'll
try to pin it up here as well. Just adding in your Stacks wallet and you can jump right into
testing it out. And also the bff.army is a good way to start. There's a whole six part series
videos by Longstreet. There's a self-guided bootcamp as well with concentrated liquidity,
differently from the other previous pools. You do have more control. At the same time,
you do also have this flexibility to provide any amount of liquidity on any side, but also you have
the responsibility to manage your liquidity because you're concentrating
liquidity within a certain range. And as the price moves, you may want to move your positions
as well. And with SBTC and USDCX, I think we have the perfect storm, the perfect combo.
You got settlement on Bitcoin. You got the most popular USD stable available on Stacks. You could literally go from
Ethereum to Stacks to Bitcoin without ever touching any centralized exchange, which is pretty awesome.
And the HODL is also going to give LPs much higher yield from trading fees because of
the capital efficiency of the way it works. So this year, we have one primary objective.
The objective is to become the default BTC to USDC venue, not just on Stacks, but on Bitcoin in general. So when anyone asks, where do I swap Bitcoin in USDC
without a centralized exchange?
Where do I DCA into Bitcoin with USDC?
Where do I liquidate or sell my Bitcoin for USDC?
The answer should be pretty obvious, and that's Bitflow.
And to get there, we have full support
from the Stacks community, the DeFi builders such as yourselves, and also a very large commitment
from liquidity providers that are coming in the next few weeks. And this institutional-grade
infrastructure is something that it comes from demand, right? We're working with Bitcoin treasury companies
and market makers and institutional LPs and wells
And we're also building a very robust API
that's going to be improving the way builders
can leverage the liquidity infrastructure.
We already have our Bitflow SDK,
which powers leather and Xverse and many of the
you know other protocols as well in terms of liquidation or swaps um so that you know combining
that with education i think this is the timing is perfect um we got sbtc we've got usdc on stacks
we got institutional adoption accelerating um in no competition in terms of you know
in terms of decks what are the decks can you go and buy uh bitcoin uh with usdc
and have it on l1 in three you know in six blocks or less um so we're very excited uh and
we are also happy to have awesome instructors that are helping
the community and users understand how it works.
So whether you're a trader who needs to move between BTC and USD and you're looking for
no slippage to low slippage or price impact or LPs that are looking to earn real BTC and earn on Stacks,
or just someone who thinks Bitcoin needs better infrastructure,
Biflow is where it's happening, and I'm happy to continue diving in the strategy
and where we're going in 2026 over the next few weeks and months.
months um yeah yeah it's exciting it's exciting and then um any uh anything you can share what
that means for uh for the launch timeline of the whole lemon i would love to give a hard date but
the engineers will probably kill me uh i would say within uh weeks uh that you know we're pretty safe
there i i think that's uh that's a safe uh safe timeline to share
but again if you're part of if you're part of the beta uh testers there's a telegram group
uh there's also the bFF Army group in Discord.
So if you're looking for the Alpha, if you want to get a head start or hear
all the details before launches, definitely join those groups and participate.
Because the Advisor, you're in the BFF army, right?
Or you are part of the group.
Curious what you can share from the inside
on how the HODL MM is going.
So by the way, last week,
I had a boot camp of one hour
where I went through the whole StaxEv ecosystem.
So we started with the other LMM.
And it's pretty cool because concentrated liquidity can be a complicated topic or concept
But BFLOW will vary widely, make it quite simple to deposit liquidity and choose a strategy to optimize for the best sales, let's say.
So even if you don't know a ton about what constitutes liquidity,
how it works, you can easily provide liquidity without complexities.
And so, yeah, I think it's pretty exciting that this is,
in terms of liquidity providers, when, like, swaps are more efficient
and everything's definitely a big upgrade for this tax ecosystem.
And then, like, I showed a bit of ZSV2, you know, like, what it enables.
And I do think that between B-Flow than sales feed to hermetica hbtc
uh vault you have p are also like a new different project where you can basically uh gonna like get
1.5 exposure uh to btc often likearks is really come coming with a great
DeFi ecosystem for Bitcoin which you would not find anywhere else so maybe
last year it was more about you know the pillars of Starks DeFi now you really
get to a point where it's the next steps and really offer something more,
not concrete, but more interesting and more efficient that can really attract both retail
users and institutions, I would say.
We have TinderlionX here.
Anything you want to share or ask?
You're muted in case you're speaking, but you're not fully hooked up, then no worries.
But yeah, but those are very comprehensive updates and then of course like the HBTC by
Hermetica is also upcoming soon so yeah we're really really getting close to a transformation
of the StackSeguade ecosystem and just about moving that final liquidity over. And then very excited to be trailblazing there with the V2.
And yeah, keep an eye out on the Zest account for early access.
Because yeah, we will basically have early access.
And soon there will also be assets to be borrowed in early access.
So you can basically get a lot better rates
on the Zest Protocol v2 early access
Of course, then shortly thereafter,
we will open the v2 to the public.
But yeah, then you can already get in position
on USDCX loans and things like that.
So yeah, definitely keep an eye out
on the Zest Protocol account.
One of the tweets up here pinned
and yeah, sign up for early access
when there are giveaways.
We're also planning to do a lot of other giveaways
also together with the Leo team
Stacks so there'll be things
I mean I see at least one cat
unfortunately we don't have Roobs here to
firmly in the seat of the leading meme on stacks
and the leading mascot on stacks as well. So yeah really looking forward to sharing more
on that with you too and then there'll be some things you can win and some good rates, economic incentives to be early for V2.
Yeah, but anything else you guys want to talk about?
Anything else we haven't covered yet?
Hey, I have, so real quick, before I even jump, before I even add to it,
I just want to say like all of these things
shipping is hugely bullish and huge shout out to all of the teams here I've been playing around
with HODL MM super psyched about that I think the BFF army initiative is is amazing we do need
more educational opportunities I love how the community is engaged with that. I love the broad test netting going on. I played around with
the Zest V2. Very sleek. I love the new design, the new details, really cool stuff. I'm actually
in the process of, while I'm on the space here, finishing out my Hermetica test net stuff for
their HBTC that I'm a little bit behind on. We got some
really bad weather over the weekend.
We're up to my neck of the woods, so I'm a little behind on
awesome stuff going on with USDH.
One thing that didn't get mentioned
here that I have been playing around with
is the Pillar Project that
Grant and Rafa have been working on
that is really doing some cool
stuff with the passkey login and onboarding opportunities that maybe are going to help us
onboard people from outside a little bit more easily from outside of the Stacks native ecosystem
and even probably out of crypto,
native crypto stuff down the line.
And what they're doing with leverage
and utilizing the primitives
like with what's going on,
Zest is underneath the hood on Pillar
and it's just an easy onboarding people
into lending and borrowing and leverage.
And all of these things coming are,
there's probably other things I'm not even talking about,
like all of this stuff in D grants,
all of the support that we've been getting.
There's so many awesome things happening on stacks and in Bitcoin and crypto
hugely bullish on all of this,
not just development, but shipping.
And there's a lot more going on as well.
I'm really excited about some of the other smaller apps that are being built and how
that's going to give a lot more onboarding opportunity that will ultimately lead to more
liquidity and more transactional volume across the the defy space as well where
we're very very well positioned in my opinion right now with all of all of the development
going on on stacks and the support for it
yeah amazing what what uh sorry i think uh diego you were uh you just unmuted
i did i just wanted to add it to what um a piece was saying i was i was also testing out the
the alpha hermedica and uh there's just so much going on but i love like shout out to Hermetica team and their whole UI and HBTC that have been testing.
Had a really good experience.
I want to give props to Ben as well for holding a alpha 101 milestones and quests, sharing with us the preview.
And I love what I'm seeing it.
And I think that's what people are excited about.
There's a lot of, you know, we've been hosting boot camps for about, I don't know, maybe
And as people, a lot of them are new to Stacks and then they start understanding the ecosystem
and they're very excited for what they call the De DeFi money lego or you know the compounding effect or uh where you're borrowing on zest and you're
blending somewhere else and you're providing liquidity and airflow and you're you know taking
out usdc and getting uh hbtc so there's a lot that once people understand the power of these apps together, I think it's going to unlock a whole new era for Stacks and for Bitcoin DeFi that it's not just promises.
These are actual products that have found a product market fit, that have demand.
And we are now in that optimization uh phase where everyone is delivering new new
versions of their products um and uh regardless of the price of bitcoin or stacks you know we're
building we're shipping so shout out to all the builders in the ecosystem uh i know it's not easy
uh but things are looking pretty fly
But things are looking pretty fly.
Yeah, that's a great note there.
But yeah, I think we can maybe wrap it up already on that
unless there's anything else super pressing we want to talk about.
But yeah, we can kind of like do a quick, you know,
pass around the horn to, you know, share with anyone here, you know, what to be looking at and what to check out.
But yeah, I see like I'm just quickly checking the questions here.
I see hodlstx.btc is down to join the beta.
I think that could be referring to Zest Protocol V2.
Yeah, definitely maybe slide in the DMs of the advisor
and then we can definitely hook you up.
I think, well, Muneeb usually doesn't join the Stacks DeFi shows,
but he will be on spaces that the handle, the Stacks handle organizes.
And yeah, those are the main questions there.
But Briarhold SDX, very excited that you want to give it a spin.
And yeah, we'd love to give you an early look at it because, you know, we've been in the Stacks ecosystem for a long time.
So yeah, awesome. Awesome stuff.
I guess quick things that people should take away from this,
maybe starting with Diego,
and then you can pass it on to the next person.
Sure. First, I appreciate the space.
Looking forward to joining you again.
Love to also help new builders.
I know that there's like, we talked about the Dora hack, the hackathon.
We're also working towards the Ultimate Developer Championship UDC
that's coming up in the next month or so with many of the people here,
But yeah, check out bff.army.
Make sure your notifications are on for Biflo.
We have a special wave of beta coming up.
There's something special coming for users
that really want that alpha.
And yeah, I'm looking forward to it. This is the year. And we'll appreciate all the community support as well. Shout out to Leo.
That's definitely going to be the first Stax meme coin on a concentrated liquidity on HODL. And I
think people are going to have a lot of fun when they understand how volatility can work uh in your favor with concentrated liquidity um and uh yeah i think
we're seeing an uptick you know we had about um we crossed uh maybe 550 million um
cumulative trading volume at the end of december that's on DeFi Lemma. It's a little bit more because DeFi Lemma doesn't get all the pairs.
But we saw just in the last seven days over a million dollars a day in trading volume.
So we see an uptick compared to 10 million in the last 30 days.
So there's definitely demand.
demand and i think when people understand the benefits of bitcoin uh that you can go from
And I think when people understand the benefits of Bitcoin,
bitcoin to usd without touching any centralized or custodial uh models i think people are gonna
really have fun and stacks is gonna become the default uh bitcoin d5 um protocol so yeah
appreciate it uh again bff.army check out if you want to get a head start
uh watch the videos sean longstreet did an awesome job as always super good instructor
uh we also have the boot camps hosted by uh community leaders such as gp peace jack
peace jack uh and more uh we also have uh coming up in spanish with angel from stacks latem we
have a whole bff brazil crew that's also doing in portuguese uh we've done with the stacks labs
africa as well shout out to sam so you know knowledge is power and we hope that we can continue on sharing that and building the default
bitcoin protocol bitcoin d5 protocol on stacks
also i guess handing it over to uh to the advisor and i feel free to hand it over to the next person
feel free to hand it over to the next person. Sure, so as always he's also said like for anything that
for let's say stay up to date with what is happening with Zest and StackingDAO, make sure to
follow the Twitter account because there's where all the latest news are shared and secondly if
you still want to be more in touch
with the Stacks community and just having a bit more fun
and can go with the community overall,
then make sure to join the Stacking Analysis Discord,
where GPAC is managing multiple activities during the week.
It's very like to chat with people.
So these are the two things I would suggest for anyone new
or like even that's been in the Stacks ecosystem
Yeah, and I'll jump in here and just say that
we have a weekly screen share that we do on Tuesdays
at 1 p.m. ET and the StackingDao Discord
We're often covering the alpha from around our ecosystem,
doing demos on how to navigate the DeFi space over here
within the Stacks ecosystem.
So we're going to be checking out a few things today.
And definitely tune into the Zestown Hall tomorrow as well.
We'll be covering some more alpha.
And we also do a weekly screen share.
And they're on 1 p.m. ET on Wednesdays.
So tap in, lock in, you know, have some fun along the way.
Our builders are in shipping mode, man.
It is prime time, grind time.
I really do feel, you know, very, very bullish about all the work that everyone is doing.
And our developer community is among the top 50 fastest growing developer communities in
So I feel like our devs, they work together to further push the Bitcoin ethos forward
and bring more programmability to Bitcoin.
And there's something special in that.
All of the like minds getting together,
all the brilliant, talented developers that we have
working together to trailblaze is something special.
We are early and this is what it looks like to be at the forefront of a very, very historical time for Bitcoin.
Peace, love, music, anything you want to share?
Yeah, I just want to share yeah i just want to show you we've obviously a lot was touched on and i just want to shout out you guys with the stacks defi show
and the other the other uh consistent always showing up uh projects that come out and reach
the audience on the regular you guys are consistently here doing this show. We know
to find you guys at 10 a.m. Eastern time, every Tuesday morning. And I think it goes largely
unstated how actually impactful that is for the ecosystem. I used to catch this every so often
when I was kind of new to the ecosystem in a large way of how I got acquainted with Stacks and what was going on here were the spaces that the community was putting out.
pushing two years doing the space every week and the,
and the building on Bitflow space and the,
like the regular spaces that come on is,
and the consistency is hugely important. And I'm,
I'm also talking about the people that show up here, you know,
the tenderly up on stage and, and, you know, I see, I see James,
I see Pip P Lord out there and Peter and Chad stacks and all you guys out there that show up to these things and participate.
Not only just coming up on stage, but supporting these spaces, coming in, engaging with the apps, testing stuff out.
It's not one community here. And these pillars, like what the Stacks DeFi show and Stacking Down and you, Tyco, produce here today, are hugely, hugely important into the future growth and the further growth of reliability in the ecosystem because that actually does
probably make more difference than a lot of you know all the bc money you could possibly
shake a stick in so to speak so thank you guys for doing this
yeah absolutely absolutely you know um i love the enthusiasm always from you on the morning show and from GPSC as well.
Also appreciating your commitment here.
Yeah, and I guess final words, check out Zest Protocol.
4.5% BTC on BTC, already 700 BTC there.
And keep an eye out for the V2 on the Zest Protocol handle.
We'll keep you up to date there.
And we're going to be back 10 a.m. ET Tuesday next week.
Same time, same day, same show.
Thank you, guys. Appreciate your time.
Appreciate everyone who came here and joined.
I see, you know, Trippamonkey,
I mean, HodelSTX, as we mentioned earlier,
IPeter, WTC, Mr. Cyborg, as mentioned earlier,
and I'm missing a few people here as well.
But yeah, always appreciate you guys
uh you guys joining live and then uh we're going to be back next week hang tight until then and
we'll speak soon bye guys Thank you.