this song has been stuck in my head like it just makes me want to explode and be like
50 different billion people
fred again and baby keith
no not during fred again and baby keith
don't at me if you don't have this chaotic
i'm so excited to be in this space
and we're gonna like go through like everything like there's so much stuff
we're not gonna get started just yet but like
amy was sending me like a bunch of stuff that i genuinely forgot about
and it's it's crazy like our space is insane
we're gonna enjoy fred again one second
yeah i'm just like bouncing off the walls
having a little coffee at 3 pm
i need to dj at coachella
with all of you guys for the room set
guys we'll go so hard low key
and imagine i just start doing random shit
like i bring that shit to coachella
my janky ass like soundboard
imagine you didn't clap in a space
because you just fucking why
imagine imagine you don't send like hearts and spaces
what type of shit is that
what type of shit is that
imagine imagine reposting a space
imagine just being that person
that's like i don't want to clog my feed
fucking that energy is out
okay we're not doing that
we're retweeting our friends spaces
fuck i should have wrote that
i did my ins and out yesterday
and that shit was so dumb
because i want to change everything
what it's just not instagram
yeah i don't get it people
i thought you were part of the song
that was a crazy transition
i was about to say that like
people won't retreat their friends
no literally that's so out
it's out okay it's a trend
but yeah come on like you only live once
it's saturday let's get some hearts going on
come on i don't know it's probably gonna sound horrible on your end
but on my end it sounds fire so
cute pfp honestly the doggos are really like
they're really doing something for me
i'm just bouncing off the walls
me and web3max on tuesday
we're spending the month there
i don't even know what's happening
i don't think max is in the coochie cabal
um no max is actually that girl for sure
i hate when people are like yeah they're on the come
actually facts and it's just like
has made it i hate that too
it's like it's like i think
because people just don't have the right vocabulary
but when somebody tells me
i was telling this to amy too
like when someone tells me
like bitch it's been three
like how much more up do you want me to go
like obviously i have like other goals
but like yo like what else
like what do you mean like
oh yeah you're gonna make it
like if this isn't making it
and like implement like emerging tech
if this isn't the top i don't know
yo it if that like for real
and you know what like yeah we're gonna have new tops
like but that's the thing though i really don't know
like if 2023 i really outdid myself personally
like honestly personally i outdid
like this i felt like there was
five years in this year no
don't you like don't you guys feel that way
yeah okay i felt like it was five
with amy giving me all the
like tea amy girl i don't know
like amy just texted me i thought
she was like not really gonna flop but like
but i was like yo amy yesterday
you wanna like do this she's like yeah yeah
and like we had such a good time last
couple of days ago is actually this week see
that feels like the space that amy
and i did that improv space
feels like it was four years
you know at the cabal party
that feel like a hundred years ago
anyway so i'm like yo let's do this
like tea of 2023 don't worry guys
we got the tea i'm just like
sitting here and i'm thinking like how am i
everything that's happened like there's no
no way like i don't know there's
always something every single day
the space starts at 3 p.m
hits me with it she's like
bar girlfriend drama this year and i'm like
it's drama that doesn't affect
ass cheeks i remember all of it i remember
every last drop of it every
kiro does too kiro is like
if i know i don't know if he's a scorpio
but like if scorpio was a person
right you endorse that he's really
we know my dog is barking
wait you never sent me a picture of your
space is gonna be so good
because people are pulling up on
their alt accounts on spaces to be
able to speak right now and that
is a sign of an excellent space
is nobody i just let them up because i was like
just nobody it's just like yeah
you hear their voices oh no
this is crazy you know also it's gonna
be a crazy say we got amy b2b
i was terrified he goes make me co-host
done like i'm like done just
like yo if anybody knows the t
like he is the blockchain
okay he literally is because he
keeps transaction records
of like who he needs to get revenge on
and like who did what and
what's going on and then we got amy
who clearly is just like i don't even know
like just like a chat tvt
in for a ride because i like knew
i was there for everything because who really
takes their pick this dog
i'm not in la oh you're not
but i love i love that you thought
wait why did you say you were
i don't know what you're tripping on
your sound sounds totally fine
there's dubstep is a little
this song's called locked in okay sorry you can't i'm like such a bass head it's bad
that's hard that's too hard for y'all you don't want that smoke anyways so
on the wrong side i need to talk
i need to talk to we need to
end is it gary or the end like
there's so many rumors as
frank had a really good take the other day about this
is about that those mfers block
so they like gatekeep their side
of twitter and so like the people
who don't know don't know because
we're not over there to tell them
that's correct no but that's genuinely kind
give it to them that's low key
genius the other day bark
came into one of the clonex spaces
there and then he decided he
was gonna try and gaslight the
love that for him though no
but you know can i tell you something they
people in this whole industry
no no i'm gonna say it again i'm gonna say it again
i'm gonna say it again no no crazy take no no no
but you're right but but listen to this though
like we're still talking about like we know
them and like people are still talking
about like i haven't spoken about them in so long
but like the fact that they
are always coming up with these
beyond me and like you just
have to respect it like that's
hold on wait wait let me finish the take
let me finish the take let me finish that's crazy
just that's crazy i'm just
on a recorded space no but there's
a there's like actually just
that doesn't mean just because you're a good
marketing person doesn't mean you're can you be
a marketing person can you finish
as your marketing yeah you're right
but doesn't isn't that kind of toxic
because like imagine you post
to do is retweet you got to support
that is good sauce i do that i just
that's what they tweet every time they tweet
out one of their spaces right
no one deserves to have less than three thousand
followers if you don't have three thousand
dude i'm sorry but the choke
hold okay let's talk about
was this this wasn't 2023
because they got like it ended
this isn't even news from 2023
think that the bark girlfriend thing was
this year no it was it was no
you sure yeah it was because
i remember being literally
in dubai and couldn't believe i had to
stay up until 7 a.m. to just
listen to what was like i needed the tea
like it was just like a soap opera i was
like what was happening i never commented
on it though because i don't like
really doing that like i don't
know i had like i co-hosted with the both
said she said that i didn't even
i couldn't yo but the thing with them
amy is i did not know if it was like a
well until king fudd came out
and like gave the full i don't trust king
fudd either i don't trust king fudd
either i do trust king fudd
why do you trust him though about
he doesn't have anything to lose
because he hasn't had anything to gain what
he doesn't have anything to lose
because they don't they didn't he
didn't have anything to gain through
the network token like he didn't
participate in any of the money making
schemes that they did the only thing
he did was work for symbol but what
is the difference between what they
do like how did they really
ruck ruck quote unquote if they're
showing up every day i don't know i
don't know much about it but i'm
kind of just be over here really
like they they use people
what do you mean they took liquidity
have you ever heard king fudd's whole
story about no like bear token and
it and i want to see but like why
is king fudd always involved in these
random scenarios like i'm sorry but
if you're like i love you but if
you're involved in all these random
scenarios all the time it's like what
are you doing here like ariana what
are you doing here like what
like how did you get yourself in
this mess like again what's going
on you know here's the thing
though like mika you and i both
have co-hosted with alex and
honestly like when given that
opportunity i was like hell yeah
like he's on the come up right
now and everybody is like lol
throwback to what we're just
talking about um but he's like
one of the hottest things right
now and i'm trying to grow my
career here and if he's offering
me a spot to co-host i'm down
i'm down and then um he used and
abused me threw me out and then
pulled someone else up then wait
no but that's what he did no but
that was his sauce though like
because he he stopped it with
everybody see like he did that with
me as well but i don't look at like
a use and abuse i think that he
actually this is like okay i'm not
taking any i like i don't know the
deeper parts but it happened to me
and the way that i was looking at
it was like this is actually very
smart pause pause um because it's
good to not get stale with co-host
sometimes and and just bring this
like new energy mika like you and i
are hosting spaces together right
now and if things diverged and you
were like amy's probably not the best
coast for me anymore you would have
a conversation with me and be like
hey i think i'm gonna start co-hosting
other people like hope you understand
like and be adults about it what he
what he did is publicly dunk on
people make them feel invalidated in
front of a live studio audience of
a thousand people yeah no that's
bad and then make them not be able to
pull their audience away from them
even though he just built them up he
was like oh yeah don't trust this
person they're obviously yeah that's
kind of crazy six feet tall
seriously so i wouldn't okay we need
to stop with the with the height
shaming oh i'm gonna keep i
used to laugh she's like i'm not
gonna stop but like it's bad i
don't care i think it's hilarious
i actually the test don't you hate
it and talk shit about men and their
heights and they look right like i
didn't say anything about their
looks wait you should do her thing
oh my god weird this this is going
so bad this is going so bad i am
what max is like we're gonna bring
it all back we're gonna bring it all
because why am i looking at i need
because at the top let's go
wait humans great apes ooh
when you said that i was like what
you had me more confused than like
like how am i gonna supposed to go
on a date and explain that
anyway so i used to you were saying
like hey you don't want anyone
to do that okay good i agree
all these influences saying
did someone fucking cut her off
oh it's i know who that is
dude i'm not gonna call them
that they can't they're so bougie
and they went so hollywood
they can't even join from their
they're like i'm not gonna be
we couldn't even get past
i'm making a new outs list
if you have a distinct voice
space if you are a regular
know who the fuck you are
literally i love it though
people are commenting the
some of these i can't even
nobody's commenting anything
aren't commenting tea from
it means it's against the
have to um wait we got to
do something really quick
unmute everybody should we
wish shrimp happy birthday
sing shrimp happy birthday i
think no wait okay please
god i don't want to do it
i don't want to do it hold
on one second let's just i
don't know this is just oh
happy birthday to you to the
toddlers in the room happy
website that is called one
birthday song dot com okay
names and it will show up
there and it will sing them
shut up see if shrimp is on
that website oh my god oh
my god one birthday song i'm
i'm here i'm here it might be
remember but i did it when i
was a teacher way back in
there's there's shrema okay
that will do right that's
close enough oh yeah let's go
happy birthday shreema happy
birthday shreema happy birthday
yes happy birthday shreema
happy birthday shreema happy birthday
happy birthday shreema happy birthday
happy birthday shreema happy birthday
happy birthday shreema happy birthday
happy birthday shreema happy birthday
happy birthday shreema happy birthday
happy birthday shreema happy birthday
Makes me just want to retweet this space.
Makes me want to smash that retweet button.
I want to retweet real hard.
No, but for real, low-key, like, okay.
I hope he's not listening right now.
But Shrimp is actually a very cool person.
Like, I have to say, ETH could never because Shrimp, like, hopped on multiple calls with me explaining me so much stuff.
So, like, Radium and Jupyter, like, that whole video was inspired by Shrimp.
So, we got to give it up.
Someone disagrees, weird, that they're so passionate about Ethereum.
The person, Shrimp, who they obviously don't know.
We can ask another ETH actually on stage.
What do you think about this?
I'm pushed on monkeys with hats.
That's all I'm going to say.
So, I'm going to be already down.
You're not making a bad one dream.
0.7 so I can get my relatives in India to send them a real monkey with hat.
We'll never finish the sentence.
Between Curo and Bad Brother and me and Amy.
It's just a garbage can of a space today.
We're not going to get through anything.
We're going to be here for hours.
Also, I'm happy, though, that Shrimp is here and that you're here so that you can give
me anything I might have missed on the Solana tea side.
But let's, honestly, let's talk about, like, let's talk about-
What was your favorite tea of the year?
Your favorite tea of the year.
Out of these things that I posted, okay, so we've got BitBoy Public Divorce.
That just really confused me.
We have the whole Ben Dottie situation.
Network token we spoke about, which I honestly thought the method was there was some sauce
Honestly, Alex, unblock me.
The last time I remember my dog died, I didn't come to one space and it was just over.
I feel like we're ready to talk about it.
I feel like we're ready to-
I think Polygon's going to pump and they're going to get the last laugh.
I mean, we'll talk about it.
Maybe we're ready to talk about these two things.
I can't believe that was this year.
Because everyone's like, oh, Network Token, Bark, Alex.
Are you like the app for Alex and Bark right now?
Is that the part of the cycle we're in?
It was like, come say it with your real-
Come say it with your full name, your face, your whole being.
If you're going to stir up-
Instead of hiding behind.
Do it on your main account.
Yeah, do it on your main account, little shit-ass.
Honestly, it's very fitting.
This PFP is more fitting than the other one, because the other one's like your day job,
and then this is who you really are.
Nobody, um, nobody's mentioned Ryder Rips and Pauly losing the-
Well, no one mentioned it.
You're supposed to comment it.
Like, this is a community effort, okay?
Like, me and Amy have been doing this for two fucking days, okay?
It's a community effort, all right?
Where's Franklin, though?
I'm convinced that Franklin is actually double ape.
Did he lose brain cells with the rug?
They're definitely cousins, at least.
A Franklin talking right now.
I'm not paying anybody to do this, but, like, somebody gets on it.
We've got to ask double ape about Ben Dow, and that's how we'll be able to suss out if it's Franklin or not.
Okay, but I need to find this clip of double ape.
They are sounding identical.
They literally sound nothing alike.
This is actually the crazy-
There's something else in life.
Why are you guys gaslighting me?
Like, you just fucking Eeyore vibing, looking, apocalyptic fucking thing.
You know, I actually had a crush on Lucifer at one point.
If you ever want to stop having a crush on one of these guys, just get to know them.
Lucifer sounds like a cutie.
I shall have a crush on Lucifer.
They don't pay me enough for this.
Why did you not mention Juggs once?
Like, that was only the day.
I can't believe that that was this year.
I wasn't, like, involved.
I don't know if anyone was.
That was really kind of crazy.
Like, I'm sorry, but why-
I just thought of another one.
It's called Size Matters.
You remember when K-Money and ThreadGuy had that massive beef with Magic Eden, and then
you also had massive beef with Magic Eden?
Wait, they had beef with Magic Eden?
Bro, everyone had beef with Magic Eden.
Wait, why is Magic Eden starting beef with everyone?
Wait, but why is Tommy this-
I don't remember what it was, but, like, they were, like, jumping down, like, they, like,
dunked on D-Gods, and then ThreadGuy was, like, I don't know why you guys just dunked
on D-Gods from your account, like, your marketplace.
And then they dunked on ThreadGuy, and then they dunked on K-Money, because K-Money did the
And then now Thread and K-Money, like, do not fuck with Magic Eden for that reason.
If you ever sit into their spaces, and they're always, like, yeah, if you check out that
Solana NFT on, I mean, Tensor, like, they do it every space, and it's because of that
Why did no one mention that to me?
Like, here I was feeling, like, just, ugh.
Like, some people, can I just say-
Wait, this definitely happened in 2023.
Can I just say, Aisha's hate-
She's, like, I can't believe we're going to have to talk about this again.
I literally hate this story.
No, no, Aisha, how much do you hate this story?
This story, like, this happened when you still had your crush on Lucifer.
The book is not on my bingo card.
The book joining Alex and Mark happened this year?
We're talking about the story that nobody wants to hear.
I want to hear it right now.
Okay, so I'm just talking about the story nobody wants to hear.
I just had to say that people-
Okay, this marketplace, like, this marketplace came up on trying to roast accounts like mine.
Like, literally, like, Magic Eden, if they didn't have, like, my account and other people-
Oh, this is going to turn into a bit.
This is going to turn into a fucking bit.
If Magic Eden didn't have my account-
I see it all happening again.
They came up on interacting with accounts, and I loved memeing with them and joking around
Honestly, like, OpenSea could never.
There's a marketplace that's actually acting like one of us, one of us.
I don't know what happened, but I make one joke that was a banger, if I might say.
I was like, oh, like, whatever.
It's cringe, but, like, I'm going to tell myself, like, the-
I'm going to be DeLulu, and I'm going to tell myself it was a banger.
Because it brought me close to, like, Shrimp and, like, other people.
Like, I would have never met Shrimp if it wasn't for the whole Magic Eden thing.
Because he was in something.
He just, like, was my hater and now my biggest fan.
Anyways, they comment from their account as well.
That's the CEO of Magic Eden.
Speaking of the intern, okay.
Is it Shrimp this whole time?
Warbucks, he just makes that joke.
They wouldn't give me the Twitter account.
Warbucks used to be the Magic Eden intern.
And then there was some sort of drama that happened there.
I don't have any insight on what that T is.
But he left and then went to become the intern and marketing director for OK Bears.
And then NF totally took over as the intern for Magic Eden.
And then that's, that was like, that was this calendar year, too.
That's, this year has been six years, guys.
I'm not convinced it's not been six years.
OK, so that's crazy that they all have had an issue.
Shrimp, why is your company so problematic?
Like, of course, you're problematic.
I'm posting on my Instagram that we're live.
Sorry, you guys wouldn't know the feeling given other platforms.
Wait, did you post that picture of us on your Instagram?
But then your alt account?
Like, you just get, like, under my skin.
It's like, it's hard because, like, you talk to Lucifer, like, on the phone.
You're like, oh, like, he's got a good heart.
Not that he's here in the room, but, like, he's just someone that just gets under my skin.
Don't act like we've talked on the phone.
Kiro, say something, please.
But it's like, okay, no, Emily.
I mean, we're not there yet, but we're almost there.
So I have news to report.
So Gary Vee was in a space today.
Um, and that, I guess, means that the bull market's back because, you know, he's been
That means the top is in.
It's actually kind of true.
Ooh, say what space it was.
We all know what space it was.
But it's so funny to me because it's like, where did he go for all this time?
Because like, he made a big deal about being an artist and drawing and all this stuff back
And then like, he like disappeared and was doing a wine thing.
I don't know what the fuck he was doing.
And now he's like back and like more V friends.
He said he's been here the whole time.
Biggest grifter in web three.
Dude, that dude has raised $70 million.
And all he does is rent out stadiums that are like way too big.
Come back on your main account and say it with your chest.
I mean, at least it's your take on Gary Vee.
I want to know your take on Gary Vee.
Because I'm curious as another woman.
Ooh, I'm, I'm bad with this because I've been like listening to Gary Vee since I'm 16.
So like, he definitely helped me.
Like, he's like the reason.
Like, I was like, I'm going to interview you one day.
I'm going to like, I have it in all my journals and like collaborating with him.
So I'm like the wrong person to ask.
I think he's a good businessman and he's, he's just smart.
But like, he influenced like a whole generation.
I've run his ass off Twitter.
Like, did you hear something, Amy?
We've just got to start delineating some lines that we say with words like grifter, rugger,
Because like, if that's the case, then you guys would be calling some of these like multi
billion dollar companies, like fortune 500 companies, ruggers and grifters and stuff like
If they're just like really good at making money, like if they used the ecosystem in a
positive way, they haven't fucking taken anything away from this ecosystem.
They've tried stuff and it's not adding bad energy.
Like, I don't think Gary Vee is like a grifter.
Are you fucking kidding me?
He's a big net negative to the space.
Like, is he trying to like change his voice?
Can somebody like define like the whole like grifter thing to me so I can.
Oh, can I just say about this?
They call everyone a grifter.
People that fail at executing on their projects, but they don't call people that get a hundred
million dollars and do ketamine a grifter, which is wild to me.
There's like a specific type of grifter.
I called Kevin Ray's a grifter all day long.
Where it's like these people all they really care about is their following and the number
and getting it up and they, you know, they pose as if they're like a net positive and
they want to be educational and like spread good vibes and all this stuff.
But it's really just about them and propping themselves up.
And I think that's more like the Twitter grifter.
And yeah, I mean, if you're a scammer, you're a scammer.
If your project fails and your project fails, there's not much you can do.
But I do think people like convolute these words way too much.
I would, I mean, would I say Gary Vee's a grifter?
Grifter probably has elements that seem grifter-ish, but overall, I think, you know, he's tried
No, but he's not going to try it.
I wouldn't say the, I don't know that, that word and him.
I don't think they're, they're, I don't know.
I think they're synonyms.
I mean, you have to understand, this guy's a really good businessman.
Like, no, I think he's like a really good businessman.
I actually have a lot of respect for what he does and how he does it.
I think that what I really was, what kind of fell flat for me was that he made such
a big deal about being like, oh, this is my chance to be an artist and like do and draw
more and this and that, the other thing.
And then the minute the market kind of fell flat, like that whole, that whole narrative
And being an artist myself, like I would have loved to see him continue to do that through
this market and, and be like putting out stuff as an artist, because I think that would have
just made his narrative and what he was preaching so much stronger.
Now, maybe he did and he wasn't talking about it.
He pulled everything off.
I did VCon and that is my favorite event that I've been to where there was web three.
It had actually good panels that you wanted to listen to.
We were all in Indianapolis.
Like there was really cool side events as well.
Like there was, it just, it felt so cool to be like, we're all gathered here for like
And there was even like a place for the trading card stuff to happen.
And, and the access to that event was an NFT.
Solana Summerfest was better.
I don't know about, I don't know.
Solana Summerfest was 10 times better.
And, and Coachella was better.
Like, what the fuck is that?
Well, why did they lose us better?
Like we're talking about it, Gary, that event.
And I'm going to tell you, no, it wasn't.
I'm going to tell you, no, it wasn't.
I was going to call on the Summerfest.
And there's no way you were going to compare VCon to Solana Summerfest.
Like Solana Summerfest might've been better for you, for your networking needs.
But for some people, VCon did the same thing.
And Lucifer, that was your first event that you went to ever.
That's the best one ever.
The, the chokehold that like Amy and me, like I have of myself and Amy right now is insane.
The co-host, host, and I, like, she's just like.
First off, I was putting them in the place.
I went to four events before that.
No, Amy, that was my first event.
Don't even try to come back from that.
Don't even try to come back from that.
I've literally been to hacker houses.
No, it's not a conference.
Dude, that's who was lame.
Does he kind of remind you like of Tai Lopez a little bit?
Gary has been so early to like so many trends marketing wise.
And like when he speaks, he's, he actually found a language that like older people, like these companies can listen to.
Like if it wasn't for Gary Vee, like telling people that they need to, you know, care about Gen Z and their digital marketing and like all that stuff.
Like we wouldn't matter because, because he's influenced all of those in a way older people, that whole generation.
And then my generation to like do what we're doing.
So it's like definitely not.
Like I think a lot of people are like, you know, what are you doing for me today?
And you're not even looking at like the whole thing.
Like the man is just strategic.
Like, sorry that like, yeah, he took a break during the bowl.
And then like, what was even the break?
Because like VCon, sorry, we took a break during the break.
Because VCon happened May.
And then he's been doing stuff.
Like the guy's a machine.
I mean, I think anyone who like supports Tai Lopez would say all of the exact same things.
But what does Tai Lopez do?
And he gives him the exact same vibe.
I think that, I think what you're confusing for both of them is charisma.
And like you can put charisma on different people.
And they both have charisma.
I think it's a lack of charisma.
I think it's a lack of charisma.
I want to get Aisha in a room with Gary V to tell him he has a lack of charisma.
Okay, who has a lack of charisma?
It's in my humble opinion.
His charisma cat or whatever is not going to like that.
Can we pause for a second?
I have used our wonderful friend, ChatGBT, to ask what a grifter is.
And this is what he spat back at me.
A grifter is a term used to describe a person who engages in various forms of deception, manipulation, or trickery to achieve personal gain.
Do you think Gary V has participated in deception, manipulation, and trickery?
Get your alt account, Ash Cheeks, off this stage.
Come back up on your main account and then say it with your chest.
Like, there's no way you would say that on your main account.
This looks like he could be a trickster.
Okay, so who's an example of an actual grifter?
I don't know who you guys are referring to.
If we, if we, let's get Gary V out of the equation.
Who would we call a grifter?
Okay, what are we, what game are we playing here?
What are we, the fucking feds?
Like, Aisha is a fed right now.
She's like, someone not obvious.
Someone that, my CIA intelligence has no idea who is.
I just want to drop a few.
Legal tea pinned up to the top.
I don't know what a SEC is, and I'm too afraid to.
I know, but I don't know what that is, and I'm too afraid to.
Security's an exchange commission.
I've heard my hand up for so long.
Security's an exchange commission.
Why do you all sound that way?
It's, like, legal matters that have to do with, like, markets in the U.S. economy.
It's, like, FBI, CIA, SEC.
Just, like, leave us alone.
I'm like, yeah, it's massive.
Kiro, what does it mean that the...
It means that they didn't have to shut down.
That's all it really, really means.
No, but what does it mean, mean?
What was the SEC accusing them of?
They didn't really win anything.
They just didn't have to shut down.
You're going to make me say Espresso the way that it's bad.
So, it was labeled as security at first.
That's why it was taken down off all of you.
What does that mean when something's labeled as a security?
That retail can't access it.
You have to be an accredited investor to actually handle securities.
So, like, it being listed on Coinbase...
It's like, aren't we all just fake accredited investors?
So, basically, they had an SEC, former SEC person, basically wrote a paper saying that it's a commodity.
And that it should be deemed a commodity.
Which was a big step for all altcoins.
Because now you don't have this, like...
Basically, people are categorizing Bitcoin the only thing that was deemed safe.
And now, if you have XRP deemed a commodity, then that opens the floodgates for all altcoins to be deemed commodities and not security.
I think probably the biggest thing that happened...
I didn't understand anything.
I know, because it's complicated.
Why would we spend hours talking about something that's boring?
How about Bonk being airdropped in...
Why does everyone say that?
Like, these things aren't boring.
Don't you want to know, like, what you're talking about every day?
Because the SEC was like, hey, Ripple, you can't sell those tokens.
And they were like, no-uh, yes, I can.
And then they went to court, and then they won.
But why was the SEC like, you can't do that?
Because it's trying to label all cryptocurrency.
Because they're big meanies.
The SEC sees a lot of money being made over here, and it wants its peace.
So, it's trying to go in and, like, charge Coinbase and Kraken and say, oh, this is a security when it's really not a security.
I mean, it's just trying to get its back, basically.
There's the layer of what they're telling people they're doing and what they're actually, like, motivated to do behind the scenes.
Like, there's two layers to it.
So, you are hearing, like, the reason is it's bad.
Like, it's dangerous to participate in cryptocurrency.
Like, they're pushing a bad narrative out there.
But, like, the real reason is they're probably going...
I mean, it is kind of dangerous, though.
But I feel like, to them, like, it's dangerous.
So, it's just, like, they just assume everyone's stupid.
The American government invented the SEC people?
It has to do with orange groves.
People were selling oranges.
And they had these contracts that if you own the groves, then you get deemed a percentage of those for life.
And then they're like, no, actually, the oranges aren't securities.
The contracts giving you dividends in the future is actually the security.
And it's just a big fucking thing that happened fucking 45 years ago that they're trying to implement on a crypto technology base in 2023.
And they're just trying to punish, basically, the exchanges for listing what they deem securities and trying to shut down those companies for listing securities when they basically aren't.
Like, you can't punish Coinbase for listing something that isn't classified as that.
And Brad probably knows a lot more about this.
He's super sophisticated.
That's probably why he came up here.
Or, I guess, tell us what the fuck's up with this.
I think I'm on to something here, right?
Brad is smarter than all of us, so we skipped a line.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Because Grok is coming in hot with explaining it like I'm five.
So, the SEC is like a big brother for the money world.
When people buy and sell things called securities, like stocks and bonds, dude, will a five-
Grok, a five-year-old is going to-
Anyways, the SEC makes sure everyone plays fair.
It helps keep the money world safe and working well so that people can feel good about investing their money.
You know, nothing about the SEC makes me feel good about investing.
It's like a superhero for your piggy bank.
What in the centralization?
What in the Elon Musk centralization?
I will never forget this.
Oh, I don't pay for that bullshit.
I don't pay for that bullshit.
Don't you have to pay extra to use Grok at the bottom?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you do.
I use ChapGBT like for everything.
But I was like, oh, let's keep it on.
And I'll tell you what I also use when ChapGBT fails me is bread.
I use bread, to be honest.
I use access just to try it.
So you're not paying for it yet.
Ooh, because I got that early access girl ting like on top of it.
No, mine said if I go to use this.
I'll tell you what's so crazy I did.
Um, when we try to pass the mic to someone and Bad Brothers speaks every time.
And Shrimp also is a victim of that, too.
Shrimp is a victim of it.
They're both just out of control.
But, Brett, I want to challenge you to try to beat Grok and try to break this down like
four or five because, like, I know very minimum because, I don't know, I skim and have, like,
this email thing that sends me little bits of things that are happening in crypto news.
Um, but I don't understand.
Everyone thinks they know, but they know little bits and parts.
And that's why if somebody tries to make somebody feel like they're dumb for not knowing,
it's like none of, because then, because then everybody else would explain it right now.
And, I mean, people will sit here and be like, well, Mika doesn't.
Like, Mika doesn't know, like, how-
But, um, I think it's more important that we act ignorant sometimes than we act as part.
Imagine you're just like, I know everything.
And it's just like, no, let people, like, explain and show off, like, why is the bread
Lately, it's been, like, a little crazy.
Fred, go ahead or else, I don't know.
What a journey to get to me being able to talk.
So, also, not a professional, so take whatever the fuck I say with all the grains of salt.
And Espresso was basically on it.
The key takeaway, though, is not, it's, it's, at what point do the security exchanges stop,
Ripple issued a token and securities, TLDR, is just like equity in a company, right?
If a company is making money, stocks are securities, right?
If they issue stocks, you have rights to their earnings, right?
To a degree of their earnings.
And that's how you do valuations, all that bullshit.
And the SEC, as idealistic as Grok is trying to make it, is supposed to be the person that
says, hey, be careful over here.
These guys are doing X, Y, and Z.
Again, that's idealistic.
They've been adversarial to crypto because Gary Gensler's a fucking twat.
We, I think we all understand that.
So, in this world, just because we can issue tokens, they're going, those are securities.
All of those tokens are rights to the revenue of the protocol that's underlying it.
But NFTs are that, whatever, ERC-20s are that, native blockchain, like Sol and Ethereum
That's what they're trying to say.
As you guys know, just because you own the thing doesn't mean you get all the rights to
all of the shit that the underlying thing or the thing that it represents actually do,
Just because you have an NFT doesn't mean you're getting revenue from pudgy penguins
doing shit, even though you do some of that stuff.
There's, it's a lot of gray in there.
And that's what they're trying to say is Ripple issued securities and everyone in like
buying the security or buying Ripple at any point in time beyond the issuance that Ripple
Labs had was also dealing in a security exchange, right?
Like, I bought this thing because I want rights to the thing and they made promises to
me that, so the key takeaway was that the ruling, the win,
here was that Ripple, yes, initially had a contract or created a contract with issuing
these securities to people, right?
That was the initial exchange and that may have happened behind closed doors, but the
coin bases and like, you know, you saw like Solana got deemed as a security and they had
to take it off exchanges for a second, all that shit.
But the, the, the, the key takeaway here is the judges said, yes, maybe there is an, at
one point of the exchange, there was an extra, a securities exchange contract, right?
You said, we promise you X, we'll give you Y, they do the exchange.
But after that point on all of these exchanges, whenever Amy says, I'm going to sell this fucking
Ripple because I don't want it anymore.
And I go, oh, well shit, I'll take that Ripple off you for X amount of dollars.
That is not a securities exchange.
That's just Amy and I being totally blind to each other.
She doesn't want this thing.
Now we're both cool and on this thing.
And that's, that was the key takeaway is that all the shit beyond the initial distribution
of the tokens became safe and like doable, frankly, because most of it's anonymous and
Anyway, is, are we the sec because no, Gary Gensler, he's the, he's the head of the SEC
and he's a pain in the ass because he's trying to say there's a, there's a big fight right
now over who gets the, who gets part of the bag, right?
Of, of crypto SEC wants it.
And then there's the FDIC that wants the other side of it, right?
There's, and this has happened before it's, it's whenever these things come on the market,
there's a lot of, if you govern over, it means you could probably make a lot of money.
So they're both doing a land grab effectively.
They're saying, if we act like we control this shit, then we get rights to this thing
So they're all being twats.
And instead of saying, yeah, this doesn't belong in my backyard, they're just saying
everything is in my backyard.
Therefore I get to be able to say that and govern it and guide it and get some money off
So they're just not being clear about anything other than we control this thing.
Even though anyone with two eyes would see it and say, motherfucker, you don't have any
That's not in your jurisdiction, but they're just trying to say it and act like they do
until they're forced off the Hill.
Because up until that point, they can, they can kind of make some money off it, frankly.
So the SEC pretty much, I mean, it says on paper, it's supposed to promote transparency.
And I'm just like, I feel like us, like web three, it's giving SEC.
Is it not just giving SEC though?
No, but it really is because it's like, oh, the blockchain.
First of all, you know what I don't understand?
And like, I don't know why I'm, I don't know.
You know what I don't understand is the fact that if all transactions are executed with
blockchain technology and like using like smart contracts and everything, and it's on
the blockchain, there's, you know, all the transaction histories there, yada, yada, it
Yeah, but you still need somebody to enforce whatever regulation would govern it because,
you know, people, I mean, it could be transparent, but, you know, and then people do something
wrong and they just get away with it.
So you still need somebody to enforce it.
No, you don't need those fucking SEC motherfuckers.
I mean, fraud is illegal.
That's how they got Sam Bankman freed.
They should be abolished.
Wait, wait, hold on, hold on.
If, if, if, so the SEC is trying, is, is trying to help prevent fraud, looks out for fraud,
watches for and takes action against fraudulent activities in the market.
That's their mission statement.
Their mission statement and what they do.
To be perceived as different stuff.
I mean, they should be doing that.
We don't need to get so graphic and so violent.
Typically, that's when the most fucking of the asses occurs.
Because it's Saturday, you know?
And you know what's out also?
The fact that people will come to a space that, let's say, like, I'll be hosting and
they're just like, you're talking too much.
Nobody's going to let me talk this much on their stage.
This is absolutely crazy.
So they look out for fraud.
Can I get in trouble for saying that?
Where's one of those fake lawyers?
I'm not saying he's fake, but like, where's the attorneys?
Tag them in the comments.
They're very directly going after them, saying that Gary Gensler is a pain in the dick.
Coinbase is going after the SEC?
So did the founders of Solana.
Like, the founders of Solana put out something on, like, from the main Solana account when
they, like, wrote the letter.
Do you remember when ThreadGuy hosted that huge space about the letter, like, listing Cardano
and listing Solana and a handful of them?
Yeah, they came out with a big list of securities, right?
Yeah, big list of securities.
It was a huge Twitter space that we talked about for six hours.
But if you go listen to Gary Gensler speak, it's quite embarrassing, to be honest, because
I think that we were already on such a great track to, like, I really think that the United
States is a leader for, like, changing financial institutions and, like, we set the pace sometimes.
And I do think that if we were to work with the SEC and, like, crypto in general works with
You want to work with the SEC?
No, but if they were too accurate.
My co-host has been corrupted.
My co-host has been corrupted.
We need to remove from co-
Guys, has Amy been corrupted?
Oh, she's not here to respond.
It was just a little stunt.
Now she's having technical difficulties,
I'm trying to get her to come up here.
No, but that's crazy because-
And we'll let me on mute.
Do you want to know a secret?
Pretty much everybody in this space, if you're like-
If you're building a legitimate company,
or you're building a legitimate cryptocurrency,
you're in some form or fashion working with the SEC.
Like, everybody's trying to work with the SEC to make things work.
Like, Solana, AVAX, Ethereum, everybody behind the scenes is working with them and speaking to them to try to make something work.
Like, they have people that are working with the Fed and trying to form pathways to different types of financial structures.
Like, that is, like, currently what people are trying to do.
And I know it because I work behind the scenes with a bunch of different institutions.
They've corrupted me, sir.
Like, I've worked with Avalanche, I've worked with Polygon, I've worked with Solana,
and I know for a fact that all three of those are, like, working with the SEC to try to come up with things to, like, pathways forward.
Every single institution is attempting to do so.
Can we just talk about how Kiro, Kiro, Kiro, shut the-
No, bad brother is going on a timeout.
Kiro, why are you co-hosting two spaces right now?
I'm co-hosting five spaces.
I'm talking about all of them, and I'm participating.
How are you listening to each space?
Which one are you listening to the most, then?
Whichever one calls on me, and I'm listening to the subject matter of every-
I'm reading one, and I'm listening to this one.
Like, I can barely focus on-
Like, severe ADD, so I gotta be fucking active, okay?
Like, I'm actually active.
There's something wrong with me, obviously.
I didn't really mean for it to get to that, but-
I'm also making pierogies right now.
Which is something I'm not supposed to do.
So, I feel like we're getting places.
This stage is getting too federal, to be honest.
This stage is getting too federal.
It's getting too federal.
Yeah, let's talk about some tea.
I came in here to just talk about how hot Amy's looking and to shoot my shot.
You know, I see you working 70 days hard, Amy.
Let's talk about Machi and X-
I'm so here for this right now.
Robe, I feel like you should play some mute-
Listen, Robe, you're fucking this up.
You need to play some nice music and ask her out on a proper date.
Listen, I don't have my setup for music right now, but I just want to say, I see you, Amy.
You know, I've been hitting the gym too, you know?
We're going to get our gym on 2024.
You, honestly, Robe, you're killing it.
Like, you're really killing it.
We'll talk about the Queen Amy too, like, bro.
I'm just like, I don't even know how you do that.
Anyone who could do 75 days hard is hard.
You know how I've been wanting to make that comment for so long, Amy, on your post, but
This is my second one this year.
Officially, as of today, I am down 48 pounds from May, which is pretty great.
And you did art, but, and, like, I don't know, the amount of, like, honestly, someone
that has that amount of discipline, like, I just trust them for some reason.
I'm like, okay, you have discipline.
You shouldn't trust me, Mika.
I wasn't talking to you, but, yeah.
It's like, are we done yet?
It's like, there's something happening every single day.
Like, how could we possibly get through?
We didn't talk, like, we briefly went through it, but, like, the BitBoy public divorce.
Does he have, so he doesn't have an X account anymore?
Weren't, like, all the people that are saying that they hate Ben Armstrong in Miami, like,
hanging out with them and taking pictures at the Pudgy event?
Why was he at the Pudgy event?
Like, I just feel like that's so creepy.
Did you want them to stand on business, Kuro?
I would love for somebody to stand on business, because, like, you know what's cool is, like,
And he's like, you know what?
You didn't even do nothing.
I'm like, bro, but, so you want to scrap?
He's like, no, listen, man.
You just told me the truth.
I didn't want to hear it.
I got scammed out of 200 bands.
I'm like, but I thought we were going to fight.
What is happening in this story?
I still don't know where we're at.
Like, this guy still has me blocked.
What happened with the divorce?
Could somebody explain to me?
So we had this side chick, and the wife was like, you can't have the side chick.
And then he was like, okay, let's be a thruple.
And then she was like, and then she was like, nah, ah.
So then he went to that person's house, and he was like, Cassie's in my car.
And then, um, what'd he call it?
That Cassie's in my car video was the most insane thing that happened.
Otherwise, that was the funniest thing that happened this entire year.
The live stream of BitBoy?
It was the video of him running from the guy's house.
And then, like, the YouTube video of him saying, oh, you're scared of me.
And I was like, yo, this is crazy.
Here, I'll pin it up to the top.
Can you pin it to the top?
When they put the sound effects over him running.
It looks like he's grabbing a gun.
Could have shot you there.
Why didn't he name drop her?
Like, he could have said literally a friend of mine.
Like, to this day, I still don't understand why he looks off her.
And he looks at his own video camera.
It's so funny when he, like, looks at me.
Is this going to be a viral moment that he's going to be able to make YouTube dollars off
Like, why do you think he dropped Cassie?
Why did he just say my wife, my girlfriend, a friend of mine, like, I'm sure the police
office is like, who's in my car, Cassie?
How did the, like, how did the police get to him?
Because he was outside this house ranting for, like, hours.
Why was he outside of a guy's house?
Because the guy took his Lambo.
No, it's a company asset.
So it belongs to Hit Network.
And him as, like, the primary star at that time of Hit Network, he was the one that drove
it so that he could look cool inside of his fucking size medium, way too small Gucci
Yes, I assume medium is, I don't even understand what's happening, but very detailed.
Why was the company taking away the asset?
Because they had to fire him because.
He started doing drugs again, apparently.
They said he said it was diet pills, but I don't know.
I don't know what ended up happening with that.
People were saying it was cocaine and kind of had a meltdown.
They took away his name, too, because they own the BitBoy name.
So that's why he's been on strong now.
He doesn't actually know anything about crypto except for how to spend it on his.
It's crazy having a mistress on YouTube and then taking her.
Wasn't his mistress the one that he was working with on his shit coin?
She was working there and making a bunch of money.
And apparently the other people were jealous.
She was making a bunch of money.
So, he cheated with this girl named Cassie who was in his work.
I just don't know why they needed to put everything on YouTube and live stream.
Well, because the content.
We might as well just like show the world.
Like, I don't understand.
Like, I never understood why everything was publicized so.
Do you remember the video of him, like, pumping himself up in the car?
He's like punching the air and stuff.
No, but I got distracted because I saw Vo.
I've been calling her Volee.
You can call her Vo though.
No, I've been saying Volee.
We were talking about Magic Eden earlier.
What was up with the intern with everybody's accounts?
Can you speak about this or no?
And apparently the intern just went rogue.
The Magic Eden intern has been notoriously spicy.
And that's been the fun of the upcoming.
So, what you were saying before with like.
Who did we not say hello to at the event?
I said there's no holds barred from the.
You never heard that phrase before?
It's like they don't hold back.
We're the fucking sec at this point.
I think it's just the sec.
I think we could call it the sec.
What people call the Eastern Empire.
I'm just going to call it the sec.
Like really figuring that out.
I see where you all stand.
I got my connections in the back end.
What are you talking about?
The doggos are starting to grow on me.
We're going to get the tweets from Magic Eden.
Pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow.
BitBoy Crypto cheated with some girl.
There was other salon drama that was going on at the same time as the Ben.Eath drama.
And like, I know about the Ben.Eath drama, but I don't really under.
I know like he was posting like, hey, send money to Ben.Eath.
And a bunch of people did.
Amy, that's why people like what I said.
I remember I said this in the space.
People want to get scammed.
Well, it's just like the sea of, it's like the, we're in like a giant retirement home
Like that's literally all of us all the time.
Is that even okay to say?
Wag me is actually, we all got mental illnesses.
Like I have a mental illness.
I'm going to go sit here in my garage looking at my vehicle.
I can't drive until mid next month because I got my license suspended for being mentally
So, you know, we all got them.
Thanks for being so vulnerable today, girl.
Happens to the best of us.
I can't wait to have Jell-O with you in the break room and our straitjackets later.
But where's the photo of the pierogies?
I should have taken a photo.
I, you know, I've been forgetting because I cook every meal I eat, but like I've been
forgetting to take pictures lately.
I used to be really on top of it, but life's gotten kind of busy.
So I've been forgetting to film.
Okay, so yeah, that got, the Ben.eth just showed me where people are, like in this world.
And then I didn't feel bad anymore.
Like, I don't know, the people complaining about Grifters and Gary Vee, just go rewind
No, I haven't, like, Ben.eth's supposed to fight Paul.
It's just like, why are you all silent and then all at once?
With this space, you always have to, like, friggin' dodge, duck, and dive to get your word out.
You have to be so quick to...
But, like, you know, not you, Ayesha.
You could just do it whenever.
You could just do it whenever.
Yeah, so when I saw that, thousands of people making this guy, just millions after everything.
And it's just like, then you're really going to complain about, like, Project Hot Dog 6969
that, like, you know is going to rug?
Or, like, you're really going to complain about, like, I don't know, Starbucks, Web3 NFTs,
Something that's just, like, harmless for society.
Or, like, you're really going to complain about Louis Vuitton.
If somebody wants to, like, spend, like, whatever thousand on the digital, like, okay.
That just shows where we're at as a society.
And that just, like, that really spoke volumes.
That was very 2023 coded.
What ended up happening with that, though?
Because I kept up with it for a while, and he just got so much money sent to him.
And then I know he dropped, like, a token.
But I didn't get up with it after that.
Yeah, but you know what's crazy?
They say it's so easy for girls in this space.
Like, do you see anybody dropping me, like, hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars?
Like, I could be, like, you don't even know what I have to go through.
Well, what you need to do is you need to adopt, you need to adopt snorkels as your kid, even though you have a kid.
And ignore your kid and people send you money because they feel bad for you.
I don't even know what that means.
Yeah, you don't want to know.
Nothing good can come of it.
If I think nothing good could come of something, that is, like, you know, that's, like, nuclear fallout type situation shit.
So, did Ben.Eath, did his wife, like, file for divorce?
Because it seems like she would have, like, all of the references in the world to take all of his money.
Is that a different Ben.Eath than Ben Armstrong?
They're two different people.
So, which one had the girl in the car?
That was BitBoy Ben Armstrong.
That's BitBoy Ben Armstrong.
Ben.Eath is a different individual.
Okay, well, whoever is married needs to, like, that wife needs to take that man for everything.
Because it's all public knowledge, and she should.
That's actually the funny part, because he was tweeting, oh, I need the best lawyer.
Somebody put me in contact with a good lawyer.
Because he had negotiated with her, you know, just, like, on a regular basis.
He was like, oh, let's not go to lawyers, and I'll give you 90% of everything I have.
And then, obviously, like a normal human being, she got a lawyer behind his back.
And is probably going to take him for everything as well.
Yeah, now he's the victim, guys.
Wait, but he's not worth anything.
The Lambo's not even his.
I mean, I'm sure whatever, well, let's just say whatever he has.
She could probably auction me.
She gets the medium Gucci tracksuit, at least.
That's a freaking ridiculous thing to say.
Which part are you smelling?
The medium Gucci tracksuit on the X-Ruars, man.
You know, I was looking at this photo of me and Shrimp, and it's like nobody even, like,
Like, they all skipped over it.
I saw it so many times, and I just, I never liked it.
I thought I was supposed to.
I don't know why I didn't like it.
I just feel like everyone just saw it.
3,000 people skipped over it.
Yeah, but, like, 3,000 people?
I have, like, stupider tweets that get, like, way more than that.
I swear to God, it's the tweets that I don't run on at all.
And then the ones that I try really hard on, or videos I try hard on, get, like, fucking
You know what's crazy, Amy?
An hour and a half on that.
You'll really post a photo.
I said you are, but, like, no, it's me.
I'll post this photo, and Trim couldn't even come with his real account.
Can I just say something?
I have to call everybody out right now.
I need to clip this just so I can say it again, like, another point.
Guys won't come to my space.
They'll listen anonymously and message me and say, hey, I'm in the space.
And I'm like, oh, you're listening?
And they'll be like, yeah, anonymously.
And I'm like, that needs to stay.
Like, that is genuinely crazy.
And I'm just like, why, though?
Like, they're probably here.
I'd rather that than the guy that comes in the audience and spams hearts at you for,
like, the entire time you're speaking.
And I'm like, can you not see I'm using my brain right now?
I don't get any heart spammed.
I'll start doing it to you, and you'll understand.
Sometimes people, like, if they're annoying, well, oh, no.
Right now while she's speaking and see if she can handle it.
Like, I've had people put thumbs down, not hearts, so good for you to try to distract
me from, like, but hearts?
Probably one of those anonymous listeners was Shrimp because now Shrimp is here.
The anonymous listener thing reminds me of the Snapchat days where you could see people's,
like, the best friends on Snapchat way back in the day.
Click on your profile and see, like, the top three people you snapped.
What about the followers?
See, we're not even reminiscing of 2023 anymore.
Can we just say that, yeah, it's weird if you were an anonymous listener because there
were four of them and now there's three of them and yours.
Okay, you're talking to women?
If you, yo, yo, that was slick as hell.
The fact that you think I would waste my time anonymously listening to a space when I
actually took a shower, because, you know, some of us have been up since 5 a.m.
Guys, somebody needs to clip that.
I need to have it as my ringtone.
Aisha, I need to have it as my ringtone.
This is why we need the space as cap emoji.
No, that was the biggest cap.
And it's like, I love, like, I live for this.
That whole sequence, that whole bit was a cap.
And it was just the most perfect bit of all time.
I want to get, like, a psychologist to analyze this.
Or, like, I don't know, one of those people that can, like, analyze voice.
Because, like, I don't know.
We don't have your body language.
And just, like, see if this was cap.
Let's take the fact of cap test.
Guys, do you think that Shrimp, with a show of thumbs up, I'm going to scroll through everything.
Do you think Shrimp was actually the anonymous listener the whole time?
No, I don't waste my time with that shit.
I pull up on my alt at the minimum.
Because not that many thumbs up.
Oh, Line Trash thinks so.
Can we get back on track?
Everyone in this space thinks so.
Well, I'll just leave then if you just want me to go back to that, I guess.
That's even more suspicious.
That's even more suspicious.
No, I just have better things to do.
It's my birthday, you know?
And you're just trolling me.
Like, it kind of hurts on my birthday.
Why would you do this to me?
Yeah, we're getting a divorce.
You said we were eloping today.
You really pay attention to the words I say.
This means so much to me.
This means so much to me.
Trim, did you hear her say about, like, only that CK people looked at it, but it only got, like, 78 likes?
He did, because he was in the annons.
Honestly, also, the, like, ego boost that I get by Amy co-hosting and her giggle, like,
It's the one habit that I have left over from, like, two years ago clubhouse that I can't
get rid of is unmuting to laugh.
I need to unmute to laugh.
Whoever does that and is hosing is just a sicko.
Or are you just going to go, like, hold on, hold on, hold on, ready, ready?
I don't have anything fun to say right now.
But it's like, ew, doesn't that just, like, not give?
Like, it's giving, like, you can't publicly laugh at what I'm saying.
Like, it's okay to laugh, babe.
It is really, truly giving anonymous.
I want to talk about one of the things on the list, Neeks, really badly.
I want to talk about Azuki Elementals really badly.
I think it's one of the top things of the year that I've done.
Why do you want to talk about it so badly?
Because it was fucking crazy that a bajillion dollar company launched a second NFT that's
the exact same thing as the first one, and we only spent a week talking about it.
Technically, it's not the same thing as Upgraded Art.
It's the same fucking thing.
The mint was, like, too ETH, no?
How did, like, everyone let that go so quick, easily?
I let it go because sometimes you have to.
No, but you guys dropped that, like, mad.
It was like a party in Vegas.
The party in Vegas was dancing Eddie and it being all over the timeline, and then the
immediate, like, juxtaposition of them launching a, like, a derivative project of their own project.
That should be, like, not a, like, what?
Wait, are we talking about used car?
That is definitely grifting.
Like, I'm looking at them right now.
Talking about Honda Civics?
That's definitely grifting.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Genuinely, genuinely, that's a grift.
You're going to release the same-
Tactically, it's not the same.
I just can't believe this.
It's upgraded art like the D-Gods.
No, it's not upgraded art.
It's not like the D-Gods.
It's a brand new NFT you paid to-
The copium, you know what?
The cope is insane to me.
I mean, I can't believe this.
It wouldn't be a grift if it was-
If it was like, you know, an art upgrade.
People are like, oh, D-Gods is like, you know, a grift.
When that happened, it's like, no.
Like, you didn't need to really pay-
You paid for it, but you didn't pay two ETH for it.
But you still paid nine hundred dollars for it.
Okay, but that's if you wanted it.
And the people who had, like, the OG Azukis were mad
because they were like, why-
People can't tell the difference between our collection and the elementals.
And, you know, I think theirs was like 14 ETH or something at the time.
But did the holders have to pay two ETH to mint as well?
According to this, it says that the 10,000 of them were minted in 15 minutes
for two ETH each, which was 3,800 bucks at the time.
And then 10,000 were airdropped to the holders of the original ones.
So, with that being said, yeah, there was the airdropped to the holders.
And then, if you had a bean, you could mint.
Like, you know, they actually have-
Did you mint for two ETH?
Before I spaced out, you said no.
I said no, it's not a grift.
Wait, someone said, hi, I listened to your space on a non.
I'm not, I'm not, like, I can't say.
No, but this seems like an alt, too.
Out, one of the things that are out, I'm writing it down.
Listening, listening, a non.
I needed to get it off my desk.
I mean, he's happy with it, so.
I know, but okay, so, all right.
You see, it's not like the mutants, because the mutants, you had, like, a serum.
First of all, they were, like, the first ones to, like, do all of this stuff.
So, I feel like, often, people will be, like, but, you know, Bordi Blancop has, too.
It's like, bitch, they paved the way, sweetheart.
So, like, they could kind of do whatever they want.
Like, you, it's like mutants, like, you can come out with a second collection, but the
second collection has to be a second collection.
Like, a whole, it's completely different.
There aren't any animals.
It was the Kroger brand of the first brand.
No, but there aren't any animals in the original collection.
No, there weren't any animals in the original collection.
I hate when people tell me to calm down.
No, the cope is, like, I can't, I can't.
First of all, first of all, Amy, I don't know.
I don't know, respectfully.
I wouldn't take that from Bad Brother.
When people tell me, oh, Mikaela, you need to talk slower.
I'm an Italian spicy little meatball, and there's nothing you can do about it.
There's nothing you can do about it.
Number two, the copium from Curo.
It's a really interesting attempt at asserting your dominance there.
No, I don't know about asserting anything anywhere other than just copium emanating from that
area and region on that other side of the host section.
First off, nobody forced anyone to buy anything.
That's like the first thing.
But like next though, nobody talks about this.
Nobody's talking about it anymore.
Why is it that like with no money, I do more than this community, than these guys?
Take that with a grain of salt.
I think this is like, I think this is energy is misplaced because they actually like do
But you have so much money.
Why is your energy misplaced?
Like, don't you have people to help you place your energy in the right way?
Are we talking about Kevin Rose here?
This is two different things.
Who was in the boardroom when they were like, yeah, for the second collection.
No one in the whole boardroom was like, um, this one kind of looks exactly like the first
Like it's like collection.
Mika, Mikaela, Michael, I need you to, you know, you're at a 10.
I need you to take it down to a seven.
I see that Azuki had a collab with, um, line friends and everyone in Asia.
It's like an, an app that everyone in Asia uses.
Like the day I got here to Thailand, I downloaded it because literally everyone uses it.
And I saw that they had a collab where I think you get bean stickers online, which I mean,
I know it doesn't sound like a big deal, but it's pretty huge.
So I do think that behind the scenes, they're actually doing things and people just don't
You know, like, but so why, but we know how important that the real estate of like spaces
or like, like I have not seen anybody in a space talking about this.
And it's like, you can easily schedule to come on a space and talk about your updates.
So it's like, I don't, I don't know why I say I don't know.
It's just like, come on a space, make your own space.
Maybe that's, I see what you're saying.
I do see what you're saying, but I suppose that's just not how they've chosen to communicate
And honestly, their community seems very happy with them.
So I guess, I don't know about that.
There was a DAO that was formed trying to get money back from them because people were
so pissed off about the fact that they got ripped off.
I mean, yeah, I'm not saying the entire community is overjoyed with them, but most of the people
that I see, I don't see a lot of FUD from the Azuki community.
I mean, I have, what is that frigging guy called?
The Bobo the Bean Farmer.
And it's so fun to just have this little DAO and you vote on things.
And I think it's adorable.
So, I mean, I don't know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't really call them grifters.
I wouldn't call it a rug.
It seems like they're trying different things and trying to make it work.
But what, but what about that?
Like, it's like, how could you not make a comment about the second collection?
I mean, I think this, I always think it's kind of a flag when a project drops like multiple
different types of props.
I do, I do think the second collection is an issue.
There's 20,000 of them, actually.
And listen, there's another 20,000 animus eggs.
There's going to be another, like, 60,000.
Like, it's just so different.
Because, yeah, listen, a lot of the stuff that these people want to do costs a lot of money.
It's either, like, you understand the vision or you don't.
And you don't participate.
It's not, like, complicated.
That's why I keep bringing up D-Gods.
You don't have to participate in stuff that's going on in D-Gods.
That doesn't mean that it's a grift or a scam or any of that stuff.
Like, yo, if they just fucking stop community completely, all the socials go down, all it is is the art, then it's a grift.
But, like, let's be serious.
We're kind of, like, conflating, like, what's actually happening here.
Crow said the girls that get it, get it.
The girls that don't, don't.
All this recap has ever taught me is that we're very close to, like, helping the SEC's mission.
Like, progressing that mission statement forward, being the new SEC, looks out for fraud, protects investors, requires honesty from companies, ensures companies tell the truth about their financial health and business activities, enforces rules.
I mean, I don't know, maybe smart contracts that...
No, but so what I'm saying is, like, why are we trying to be the, like, SEC, though?
Who are you trying to be the SEC?
Us, by wanting mainstream adoption for blockchain transparency.
I never said I wanted that.
I don't want mass adoption.
I don't think it's a good idea.
People can barely handle...
Okay, so what do you want?
It's where it's order to come back.
No, because I want to stream on my TikTok, but I went on TikTok, and I don't know.
Have you done the NPC lives, Mika?
Do, like, a Web3 version of the NPC lives.
Is that what you would like to see?
It's just, like, a part of me is, like...
For 2024, is, like, is the vibe supposed to be that, like, we focus on?
I just don't know what platform to focus on.
It's like, but maybe I just need to do it all at the same time.
I'm totally over all of these PFP 10K generator projects.
This is our very first look at the iPhone.
I don't care about blockchain.
Everything else is, like, a steady, quick ride to zero, in my opinion.
That's, like, me in 2023.
And then 2024, bull market happens.
The 10K collection launches.
And, like, everybody's throwing money at it.
You know what I'm excited about is Web3 gaming.
I think that's definitely the meta for 2024.
I think that's what we all need to pivot into.
Like, all at once together?
It looks like there's five weeks of game.
I'm not excited about it at all.
Wait, why isn't she up here?
But she commented, syndication on socials.
Post everything across the board.
That's what I'm doing and try to focus on in 2024.
But it's, like, it always bothers me where it's, like...
But I want there to be one where it's, like, imagine all the other time
that I'm spending on the other platforms.
Like, I just do it, like, with one.
And I'm just, like, steady.
Like, I just, like, focus all on X.
I just feel like other platforms are growing so much.
Like, TikTok seems to be...
No, but it's like, I don't know what the vibe is on TikTok.
Can I say, I love your videos, but the way that you move your mic in your videos
The one element of the world...
...where you can't move the mic so much.
It's because I have to hold it.
And, like, I can't bring the arm with this stupid...
It's been moving that in for weeks.
Why didn't you say something?
It's the same energy of, like, anonymous.
Listening in anonymously.
Because I love your videos.
You could say, hey, this...
This makes me feel some way.
Maybe could have done it in private, but...
I love if anybody has any other things.
I know it's full run because Burden is requesting on Twitter.
Why is this kid always just show up when Bitcoin's out, like, a dollar for his video?
To talk about the same video.
How's your same video that has been four years?
Hey, do you mind if I pin a video to the top?
He's gonna dip out for three more months.
Dude, I can't even breathe.
You came to the wrong place.
You missed, like, three hours of the T.
You could have been caught up on the whole year that you missed out on, and you decided...
So, what's the final verdict with the whole, like, Azuki Elementals?
What are we calling that?
We're sitting at the zero.
I don't touch those Azukes, you know?
Did anybody even make money off of them?
Because it looks like the price just dropped immediately.
Zagabon did be doing those things that make him rich.
The youth's bridge to Polygon.
So, last Christmas, when Frank decided to be the Grinch, and just announce all the things
and take over Christmas...
I remember that, actually.
So, I'm sitting in the living room, and with my whole family.
And my sister's sitting across from me.
And the most grounding thing happened to me is when I yelled out loud,
Utes are bridging to Polygon.
When I read it on Twitter, and my sister goes,
Flims are flinging to flam.
Do you fucking hear yourself sometimes, Amy?
And I have never laughed harder in my entire life.
I was like, honestly, nothing matters.
I need to turn my phone off.
Like, I was so fucking funny.
And every time I think about you, it's bridging to Polygon.
I'm typing that bridging is out in 2023.
Frank's gonna come for you.
Also, laughing without unmuting is so out.
You type very aggressively, Mika.
You type very aggressively because I'm typing with one hand
because I have to hold my freaking microphone
because I can't just travel with a, with a, like, an arm.
And, like, get a mic stand.
Let me, could someone get that for my birth?
I already have to get a whole new setup, too.
Because, like, it's a whole thing.
It's like, get a mic stand.
And, yeah, just, like, like, come to more of my spaces
so that people actually want me.
I'm like, you don't, you don't want to, you don't want me to.
I had to literally force Gary Vee to let me speak at VCon.
It was so funny and iconic.
Bro, can we go back to the Gary Vee going to that Twitter space earlier today?
Because, like, we used to call the Rifter and we didn't even get to talk about that.
So, Gary Vee went to Bark's Twitter space and Toot, um, our good friend.
From his, all the account is Toot.
Toot, too, too, which is Tout's.
Is it, the Toot is part of the Coochie Cabal.
Um, but he tweeted out 1.6 million raised for a shitcoin network.
Token, multi-sig funds held by Book, Spark, and Alex spread into a bunch of wallets and
Go fuck yourself, Gary Vee.
Unfortunate to see how you move supporting scammers in the space just before.
Gary comments and says, I'm confused, friend.
I'm unaware of what you speak of.
So, Gary Vee had no concept of what happened with the network.
Which, honestly, like, after.
Like, bigging up Gary Vee.
Like, the network, like, if you were on crypto Twitter, you knew about the network token.
Bro, Gary Vee has other shit to do than care about the network token.
You don't think Gary Vee has any concept of Alex's shit?
No, I really don't think so.
Like, I barely know what happened with the network token.
I don't think that he knows anything.
Like, in that case, he stays down in the drama and doesn't care about the shit.
Like, when he's tweeting, he's probably just tweeting and then, like, leaving the app in
Like, now he's scrolling.
But, like, the whole time, this whole year, he literally said he was kind of, he wasn't
taking a break because, like, he did VCon.
Like, this all happened in 2023.
It was just more like, I'm not going to be.
Like, he wasn't really in spaces.
Like, he would do some tweets, but more Discord stuff.
Like, bro, anyone doing that is just engagement farming Gary Vee.
Like, if I was working with Gary Vee, I'd be like, don't even answer this guy.
Like, because it makes them, it ruins it for all of us because it makes it that he won't
come into other people's spaces because he's going to be too afraid.
Yeah, like, imagine being Gary Vee and you have to do, like, a due diligence before you
One of the three people that isn't blocked from...
By Bark or a shillin' villain.
Can you guys go figure out how many people he had in that Twitter space so I could just
Burn, are you blocked by him?
Dude, me and him got in such a big fight, like, a year ago.
Do 42 people, 1,000 people even exist?
Half of those are bots for sure.
No, but the thing is, also...
There's no way that 42,000 people exist on this planet.
Like, my normie best friend knows who Gary Vee is.
Like, Gary Vee is not just Web 3.
Gary Vee, it straddles the Web 2, Web 3.
Yeah, no, Gary Vee is known as, like, a garage sale, like, doll flipper.
No, no, he's not known as that at all.
He's known as, like, an entrepreneur and, like, public speaker.
He's a garage sale doll flipper?
Can you tell something about that?
Birden, you need to watch some Gary Vee and get your editing, like, your videos edited,
If you watched him, you wouldn't be sitting on this for so long.
Can we, Amy, can we let Max up?
I already tried to let her up.
I think he needs to leave and come back because she shows us as a speaker for me, so I think
she's, like, drugging a lot.
But can I say, I feel like you speaking at VCon, Mika, was, like, such a manifestation
Because I know you, like, wrote it in your list or something, like, a year before that
you wanted to meet Gary Vee or something like that.
And then you actually spoke at VCon.
I have a video of me crying.
I'll probably release it at some point.
Maybe, like, a little 2023 recap.
But I'm getting ready for the day that I'm going to speak.
And I'm just, like, no way.
Guys, it was just me and Gary Vee.
And he'd be like, you know, da-da-da.
Like, in these little, like, Instagram clips.
And then he had a podcast.
And I was, like, amazing.
And I used to love the way that they edited it and whatnot.
He's in a lot of my journals.
Actually, there's some other stuff that we need to cook up with him.
So I'm not too done with Gary Vee just yet.
But there's some stuff that I need to...
That's still written on the list that I need to check off.
But, yeah, that was really cool.
And it just shows, like, wow.
I know it's not going to sound so cringe, but community.
But it's, like, everybody tagged me in, like, the post.
He wouldn't have paid attention if it wasn't for that.
So that was, like, crazy.
I was, like, yo, guys, help me rate this post.
Dude, a hundred of my friends were just, like, yeah, commenting.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And, like, it actually just worked.
So it was, like, okay, sick.
I don't know why it had to get to that, though.
Like, I mean, I hope this year I could go speak and not have to harass him.
I met the president of VFriends.
And he's, like, oh, I know who you are.
Do you think this year could be a little different?
But, yeah, it's really cool.
I think that's what makes X so special.
Because, like, you can't do this on another app, I feel.
Not, like, oh, talk to incredible people and grow your platform.
But, I mean, like, just the reach.
Like, the fact that yesterday I was, like, hey, who could teach me about Solana?
And then, like, the head of strategy of Solana is, like, I can.
And that's happened a lot.
Like, I spoke to Dolce & Gabbana on Spaces.
Like, I interviewed the Dolce & Gabbana.
The Dolce & Gabbana on Spaces.
And I'm just, like, what?
Amy talked to the Tommy Hilfinger on Spaces.
Is that the here election?
That's all just as crazy.
It doesn't matter what it was.
It's, like, it's all awesome.
And I think, you know what?
That's, like, a lesson for everyone.
I mean, like, we all just have to believe in ourselves a little bit more.
And think that things are going to work out in our favor.
And I think inevitably they do if we persist.
Yeah, I mean, look at me.
I get to talk on the Mika space.
I mean, I never thought I would be at this level.
Oh, simp, simp, simp, simp.
Literally, you're doing anything but editing this video.
What video are you talking about?
What video are you not talking about?
Okay, actually, I don't even know if I want to drop the alpha.
Oh, he doesn't know if he's going to drop the alpha.
Anyways, was I not the only one?
I thought Dolce & Gabbana was, like, a cologne.
I didn't know they were names.
I thought they were two words.
He said it was a cologne.
It was like a fashion empire.
Yeah, they got close to him from that work lab.
It's like, wait, hold on.
Okay, you're drugging so...
It's like, who keeps letting him out?
I'm like, oh, don't let anybody be made to feel stupid for asking questions.
For not knowing Dolce & Gabbana, you're dumb.
There's some boomer shit, dude.
Are you calling me a boomer?
Earlier, Mika's all like, are we VSEC?
And she's like, you don't know what Dolce & Gabbana was doing.
The diversity, like the range is crazy.
I feel like we could cover it.
Like, we'll need maybe like a second space.
There's like a lot to cover.
Maybe we'll do a little second space.
And I think burden was top signal.
Okay, do you guys want to listen?
Yeah, burden is definitely a bottom.
Amy, you want to make a part two?
I'm down to make a part two.
I'm down to make a part two.
We'll be like, we'll be bright and early.
For all your New Year's Eve plans.
Maybe we'll have a New Year's Eve cabal party.
New Year's Eve cabal party.
Okay, I think we're going to listen to this song one more time.
And we're going to see everybody tomorrow.
Maybe I'm going to do a New Year's Eve stream.
So we could like all like chill.
Because I just want to listen to this so bad with the homies.
2024 is going to be insane.
So I'm not going to talk to you tomorrow.
Thank you for just meeting.
Guys, am I going to cry on New Year's?
Because just like this year was so good.
I don't know how we're going to do it.
I know we're going to top 2024.
Imagine it's the worst year of the.
2024 is going to be great.
Don't forget to follow some people.
I want to do a dance circle with y'all right now.
Ooh, it's so good. I'm doing it with you.
Trust me. I'm like, I'm so
I'm going to make it to Coachella one day.
I love you guys. I'll see you tomorrow. Bye.