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The MrE Zone Ep. 219 - Ordinals Late Night
Recorded: April 19, 2025 Duration: 3:08:55Space Recording
Short Summary
In a lively discussion, participants explored the current state of the crypto market, emphasizing the importance of community support, the potential for a bull run, and the challenges faced by artists and founders in the NFT space. Key topics included the impact of centralized exchanges, the significance of partnerships, and the evolving nature of online interactions in the crypto ecosystem.
Full Transcription
Thank you. Thank you. so
welcome back to another incredible episode of the Mystery Zone with me, your host, Mystery
or Mystery, however you prefer to say it.
And of course, the incredible Cynthia.
We absolutely love Cynthia.
She's an incredible artist.
She's got the blockchain sprinkles on Ethereum, just 0.03 ETH.
She's got the Restless Path Photography.
It's absolutely incredible photography.
You got to check that out. 0..11 eth and only three available as well you gotta get them before they're gone my god it's
just amazing art right different forms of art and you love to see it and of course shout out to
the audience we've got the incredible joe dead in audience. You know, he's got those Bitcoin giant penises.
Some say they're the biggest Bitcoin giant penises on the blockchain.
And, well, I believe it.
I believe it.
And shout out to the future audience as well.
The ones that aren't here yet.
Maybe they come a little bit later.
Maybe they listen to the playback the next day.
It's always the best when we get the legends in here,
just vibing, thriving, striving.
And, you know, it's been a nice little kind of like a,
what is it, like Good Friday, a Good Friday.
So no work today, just got to hang out with the fam.
It was a beautiful day as well, you know,
plus 18 degrees Celsius out there.
My God, it was actually, I had to pinch myself because the sun was actually up, you know, later than four o'clock, right?
It was wild. I was like, what the hell is this? It's unheard of in Canada.
So how are you doing this evening, Cynthia? How are you doing this evening?
Good evening, Mr. E, and good evening
to our esteemed and wonderful audience. I'm doing all right. I don't have a naughty late night
Latin latte yet. I haven't been feeling the best today, so I'm just kind of trying to power myself
up to go do that. I haven't eaten a lot or anything, but it's all right. We're, you know, it just, it is what it is. We're fine. Um, always happy to be here hanging out in the mystery zone with you
and, uh, everyone else. Uh, yeah. How are you doing mystery? Oh, sorry to hear you're not doing,
uh, you know, not feeling that great. And I'm sending, you know, the best vibes your way
to help you write the best you know, the best vibes your way to help you, right? The best healing vibes, the best those masculine purr vibes.
And, you know, I just, you know, we're manifesting that you feel better soon enough.
And, you know, I just been, you know, I'm doing good.
I'm doing good today.
You know, just hit the gym gym just did a little bit of
shoulder workouts in that gym you know sometimes I find like when I'm not feeling great and I just
like force myself to get in the gym it's like I'll come out of it feeling like better than when I went
in strangely enough I'll be like oh that's that's interesting how that goes or like sometimes if I
have like an aching I don't know like my leg or arm or something like that, I'll just do kind of some like, you know, some arm workouts.
And it's crazy.
I don't think you can feel the way I'm feeling.
Yeah, yeah.
But I appreciate that.
Yeah, right.
Oh, that's too bad.
That's too bad.
And fuck. Well, you know but i i myself don't have
my naughty late night coffee either like i've made it but my machine takes for like forever to
make it so it's probably ready by now but you know it's upstairs it's lingering i got myself
a protein shake here i got a little water we're just vibing we're thriving we're gonna go upstairs and get that coffee eventually here you know that naughty late night latin latte maybe it'll just be a black
coffee maybe it will have a little something in there and uh my god you know we're looking here
at the charts and it looks like the bitcoin is sitting at about 84,900 us dollars. It's just like up 0.15%, not even half a percent really. So it's
just been pretty stable the last couple of days. Um, let's see here the last seven days, I think
it's been, yeah, it's been pretty much hanging around the same, same area for the last seven
days. So, um, you know, nothing, nothing crazy going on with corn very stable despite all the
chaos out in the world uh you know all there was all the tariff stuff and you know there's always
something going on i saw even tonight like i don't know what was going on there was something
like trump said said something about someone getting nukes and then the whole fucking room
cleared out.
They like got all the press out or something.
He's like,
he's like,
you're going to have a bad time with this country.
I didn't catch the country,
but he's like,
you're going to have a bad time if they get them.
So was it El Salvador?
It might've been Iran.
It might've been Iran or one of those countries out there.
but then the whole room just kind of like also went crazy and they kicked
everybody out. They're like, press has got to get out of here. I was like, what the fuck? That
escalated quickly. That's crazy. That's crazy. And shout out, by the way, to Crab, who has joined
us, and Draws as well. Maybe it's Droz. He's got the two dots over the O, and so you can never
pronounce it the way you would think. So it's probably Droz, right?
Shout out to those legends.
You know, Crab is just an incredible artist as well.
He is doing some incredible things.
And he's even got an OpenSea collection there.
We're clicking on it.
And it's the Ultra Wasp, right?
It's actually very fucking cool. It's kind of um, it's kind of like a Zuki themed
wasis. If you can, if you consider it's like they're facing left, they look bad ass as fuck.
Uh, like you just clicked that, that open C link and my God, it's just incredible to see.
And, uh, he's also got this, uh, Oh, this funny, uh, meme on his page as well.
It's like that scene from the Batman movie.
Robert De Niro's like,
you're still going to say all-time high is coming next, aren't you?
And then, well, the Joker says,
Bears had their chance to send us a zero, but they're fucked now.
So absolute legend.
He's got the best vibes.
And, you know cheering
him on for anything he does art wise because he's just very talented very talented individual and
shout out to crab and uh there was another thing actually that i saw today i think it was like from
udi actually um some guy apparently sent like let's see here. Udi Wizardheimer is the thing.
Um, I might pin this to the top cause this is crazy.
So some guy named Tomer Warshower, Tomer Warshower.
Um, I'm going to pin this to the top cause this is kind of a crazy little story here.
So apparently he says, did Binance just steal my ordinals?
I mistakenly sent my newly purchased Taproot wizard and two Bitcoin puppets to my Binance Bitcoin deposit address.
Ooh, that's never something you want to do.
And then he says, ordinals live on sats.
So they went with it right after the mistake.
He says he was tired, had a newborn crying long night.
He said he reached out to
the Binance VIP support. They said the assets are lost and can't be recovered. But today I saw my
exact ordinal listed for sale on Magic Eden recovered and controlled by someone else. That
means Binance recovered the assets, told me they couldn't, and now it's being sold. This is just
not acceptable. This is not just unacceptable. This is theft. He says, Binance, I want my assets returned immediately. Your silence
on this issue won't make it go away. So that's just kind of crazy, you know? And then there was
like a bit of discussion about how, because I guess when you send sats, like that's kind of
interesting thing, right? Like I would have thought like thought like you know you get a certain bitcoin address right when you send stuff to like centralized exchange
like binance or whatever so i would think that those sats would still sit in that um wallet
like but but apparently they must be like i don't know in a more of a communal wallet or something
like that when it goes to Binance.
Because apparently people are able to kind of like, you know, mine rare sats or something like that.
And how they do that, I think, is they just they send a bunch of Bitcoin into Binance and then they send it back to their wallets.
And then I guess it kind of like just sends a shitload of different sats back to their wallet.
And then they're able to check, do I have any rare sats did i get anything unique and um so whoever this person was hit the fucking lottery
and uh probably got i don't he doesn't tell which does he say which one he got um yeah i guess the
wizard was the one that so somebody just like deposited some, or, you know, switched some Bitcoin from finance to their wallet and found that, holy shit, a wizard was in that batch.
So what do you think of this, Cynthia?
I saw your hand was up there.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm just wondering if you have all this stuff going on, you're really tired, you have a newborn crying and like, you know, dealing with that.
Why, what was so important that you had to
send the wizard and the puppets over right now? Why couldn't you wait until maybe you had, you
know, more time to concentrate on the task at hand? Why was it so urgent to send the assets over? I'm
just curious, right? Maybe there's a good reason, but I'm just
curious as to why with all this stuff going on, you know, it's that urgent. Like, you know, today
I'm not feeling great. I'm just like, I'm not, I'm not going to do anything crazy. Like I'm not
distracted by a newborn and stuff, but when I'm not feeling that great, I'm like, you know what,
this other stuff, I'm going to just wait until I'm not, you know, feeling like shit or whatever or busy or whatever it is.
Right. So I just want to know what was so urgent and why did you have to send all that stuff over now?
And I mean, we've talked about it as well before with when we're sending, you know, Bitcoin or anything assets out.
And even your experience with that amazing Taproot wizards whitelist that you gave
away but you had to custody the bitcoin and then mint it and then has to like send the taproot
wizard to the person once once it was sent to you right and you were checking and rechecking and
making sure you like absolutely that the information that you were submitting and using was all correct.
You know, checking, checking it twice, three, four times, like, which I do as well a lot.
Even, you know, I copy and paste and I go back and double check that the whole thing got copied.
I didn't accidentally just like fat finger it and erase something at the end.
Right.
So, yeah.
Why, you know, how could you how could, you know, how could you be so careless?
I can't believe you've done this.
That's what I was thinking.
Yeah, I can't believe you've done this.
Yeah, I can't believe you've done this.
And no shade to that person, but just, like, why was it so urgent to do it right now?
That's such a good fucking point.
Like, it's just kind of like, you know, you're, yeah, especially, that is such a good fucking point like it's just kind of like you know you're like yeah especially that is such a good fucking analogy too because i literally
uh you know i gave away a whitelist for um the taproot wizards mint but because i couldn't change
the wallet i had to yeah you're right i had to like custody this person's bitcoin it was like
0.2 bitcoin it was like the most fucking bitcoin i've ever like you know had in my wallet
right and so like first off there's that and then it was like, I minted it. I was like, okay, I didn't fuck up the mint. Great.
And then I got the wizard in the wallet. And then I was like, okay, now is like, I was like,
I'm not drinking. I'm not going to like smoke any weed or anything like that. I'm like fucking
focus on sending this to the right address. Like I literally checked every, every single thing in
the wallet. Right. Um, I got, you know, that single thing in the wallet. Right.
Um, I got, you know, that's usually it seems to be a little extreme, right? Checking every single thing.
Usually I just check the first five, the last five, if it's close enough, uh, good enough.
Right.
But this time I checked every single fucking thing.
Cause I mean, at the time it was like a, what a 0.2 asset, the coin asset, like close enough
to $20,000.
I'm like like i'm not
just gonna willy-nilly send twenty thousand dollars somewhere and yeah you're right so i
was focused on so i just like you know yeah why was it so urgent to send some bitcoin to buy that
especially when you're tired you've got this baby or whatever right like it's just so it's unfortunate
to hear but uh we got droroz on the stage here. Welcome
up to the stage, and shout out to Mr. Mike as well, who has just joined us. What a fucking legend.
How you doing this evening, Droz? Doing good, man. Driving around town. Yeah, I just, I don't know,
I wanted to jump on stage and say that it's Fred, that, I don't know, like are we supposed to care when people like make mistakes but
I don't it's like the foundation of I don't know I thought that was the first learning
curve like check everything that you're doing before you send something
literally every day I see something on the timeline of somebody making a mistake and then complaining,
like playing victim,
asking for the problem to be fixed.
And it's like,
bro,
you're not following the first three steps of the game.
Dude,
that's actually such a great fucking point.
Like,
you know,
like if you think about it,
it's just like,
yeah,
like you get all these people.
It's kind of,
it's almost like a lot of get all these people it's kind of
it's almost like a lot of times people will you know it's it's almost like they'll privatize the
gains but but socialize the losses in a way right like i don't give a fuck dude every day every other
day you're on here gloating about the thing the good plays that you made out of your group chats and didn't tell anyone about. But then you, dude, the funniest one I saw was like yesterday or two days ago,
some guy posted that he got, he was like, I'm fucking devastated right now.
I got drained because I got socially engineered into thinking that I was
invited to do a podcast about mental health
and the Web3 space and then
they got him to download like a
Zoom program
and when he downloaded the program
to do this podcast
about mental health and Web3
they drained all this shit.
Oh dude, I saw that actually.
That was crazy and like wasn't the person
saying like I was sitting in the fucking room and nobody was talking and it was just like like that's like the first the
first lesson right there is you like you don't click any links right um and it's crazy because
i've had people like reach out to me right and they've been like man i really like well you know
your memes or whatever the fuck you know your project or your spaces. And it's just like, why don't you, why don't we hop
on a call, you know? And, uh, and then they send me like a fucking link. Right. And I'm like, dude,
I'm not clicking that shit. Like I don't, I don't, you know, you can hop on a Twitter call
if you want, you can hop on like a discord call or something like, but, uh, yeah, there's no
fucking way I'm clicking that link. And then usually as soon as you say that, they fuck off, right?
And actually yesterday I even got one from somebody that like,
like I've interacted with a bunch on the timeline,
seemed like a pretty chill person.
And after I called them out on it, they're like,
they're like, what the fuck?
Like the messages have been deleted on my end.
Like I just got my account
back did they send you something it's just like uh so i mean like if i didn't know any better i
could have clicked that bit gotten into some you know just whatever call whatever it was whatever
app it was and yeah gotten drained right so it's just like you got to have that accountability
right and um it is it is interesting how a lot of people,
you know, yeah, it's like you say, they gloat on the timeline. I made all this money, all this
whatnot. And then, but then when they get drained, they're kind of like, I want a refund, right?
Where's my refund? It's like, dude, like there's no, there's no refunds out here. Um, and shout
out by the way, to SWM in the audience. What a fucking legend.
We absolutely love that legend.
He's got that wizard.
And, you know, he's not sending his wizard to Binance, right?
You know, you just know he's not going to be pulling that, you know.
So, you know, for those who just joined, we were just talking about how, you know, Udi posted this tweet from this guy who sent a couple puppets and a wizard to Binance.
And then he's asking Binance to give it back.
But apparently it must be some kind of first in, first out sort of thing.
Because I never understood really how that worked like you get you get a wallet address but
it must just be like I was always thinking that each person was assigned a wallet when they got
Binance or something like that but uh it must just be kind of like a big communal wallet and
then it's like first in first out something like that so like a bunch of people could send it in
and a bunch of people pull out bitcoin it's taken those recently added sats and sending them back out.
And, um, and, and yeah, like that kind of makes sense.
Cause there's a lot of people that were, especially in the earlier days of ordinals,
they were, um, they were like rare sat hunting.
And, uh, I know like one buddy of mine, he was like, he would, he would send one Bitcoin
to Binance and then he would send one Bitcoin to Binance
and then he would pull one Bitcoin out.
He would check all those stats, see if there's any rare stats.
If there wasn't, he'd send that one Bitcoin back to Binance and then he'd send it back
from Binance to his wallet.
And like he said, he found a shitload of just like a bunch of rare stats that were kind
of like, I don't know, block, what the fuck?
Block 78 or I can't remember what it was.
Like, like the first block that people were able to get stats from or
something like that.
Um, I gotta, I gotta re catch myself up on all those rare stats, but, uh,
yeah.
So like, and he was able to make some good money selling rare stats.
So, um, yeah, sex.
So just, yeah, never send,
never send your, your fucking ordinals to Binance. Uh,
it's just not going to be a good time and they're not going to refund you.
You know, they're not going to, unfortunately. Right. That's,
and that's the, that's the thing about the blockchain. It's like, it's,
it's, it's almost like extreme accountability. Right. Um,
which is like one of the benefits of it,
right. Which is one of the benefits because I mean, my God with the banking, holy shit.
Sometimes I forget how shitty banking is. Like I tried to send myself, like, I think I had to pay
some bill or something. So I tried to transfer myself like $3,000 and they're like, Oh, your
daily limit or no, I think I had to send $6,000 and they're like, Oh, your daily limit or no, I think I had to send
$6,000 and they're like, your daily limits, 3000. And I was like, Holy shit. I had to get approval
to get like, to move my own money around. Right. Um, or you look at like all these fucking
companies that are like doing wire transfers and shit like that. They got to pay so much in fees
just to like send it. And it takes days for the, the money to get, to get around.
So it's just like, you know, I mean, like that's the beauty of the blockchain.
Like you can literally send as much Bitcoin as you want.
You can send millions of dollars of Bitcoin in seconds.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like within 10 minute block, but like, you don't have to get approvals from anybody.
You don't have to be like, Oh, excuse me.
Like, you don't, you're not all cuck. You don't have to be like, oh, excuse me. Like, you're not all cucked.
Like, can I please use my own money?
Like, please.
And the funny thing is, they're like, oh, you can't move your own money.
And when you send the money to, like, pay a bill or something like that, or like you said, the wire transfers, it takes days for it to, like, go through.
Or for the bill to be paid. But,
but when they're taking your money for something, like it's gone as just immediately, as soon as
you pay it, it's gone by, and it's not, you know, just hanging around and you don't have to, they
don't have to wait days. They just take it. It's so funny how that works. Isn't that funny how that
works, right? Yeah. It's just instantly gone. Right. And fucking there's, you know, there's nothing you can do about it.
If they got their eyes on your money, tough luck.
Tough fucking luck.
And it doesn't matter.
You know, it doesn't even matter.
Like, I've had situations where, like, I've been with, I was with one bank for, like, 15 years or something like that.
And then they just started, suddenly they bumped up.
Like I was like trading stocks and suddenly they were like, uh, you know,
they used to make it like you had to have a minimum of $5,000 in your account.
Out of nowhere, they just changed it to like,
you have to have a minimum of $10,000 in your account.
And, uh, and then they just started fucking charging me so much in fees
and like i was like usually i never really checked my my statements and stuff like that i was kind of
like you know i was very like hands off but then like one day i checked i'm like what the fuck you
guys been charging like so much every month for like last six months uh they luckily they refunded
me some of it because like there was just bullshit, but like most of it,
they didn't give back.
And then they were also like,
I was like,
all right,
well I'm going to a different bank.
And they're like,
then another bank is going to treat you worse than we do.
Cause you'll be a new customer.
And I was like,
Holy shit.
Like I actually had this woman.
There's a name for that,
right?
Like manipulate and her gaslighting.
Exactly. It was like like i was in some abusive
relationship right no one's gonna love you like i love you meanwhile they're like fucking you know
absolutely fucking just manipulating gaslighting and fuck it and i always see it's when like the
offers i always see like we're up in canada So everything I always see, like, open a new account with, you know, so-and-so and we'll give you a fucking iPad and what shit like
that. Right. And it's like, if you're an existing customer, what do you get? Absolutely nothing,
nothing at all. It's like, thanks for being our customer. Thanks for paying us. We like to use
your money to gamble and have a great day. And that's all. Oh my God, that is so true. It is ridiculous, right? And that's so fucking true too. It's like,
they'll use your money to like entice other people to come over, right? You know, and it's just like,
wait, can't, can I get that? And you're like, no, fuck you. Like, you're already here. So we don't
need to impress you. We're going to entice everybody else, right? Like, I was actually
crazy. Like, yeah, because there was one time there was like something like you get like 300 bucks if you
if you just started an account and i was like hey i already have an account can i get that they're
like no that's not for you i was like oh well fuck fuck you guys like dude fucking verizon does the
same thing i'm like i can't wait till like phones are have the same vibe as, like, you know, we don't like banks because of this shit.
I don't like phones because of this shit.
I can't wait till, like, I can just get a satellite cell phone or something that, like, runs off of the, like, maybe the Solana phone wasn't dog shit.
It's just, like, Verizon's like, yeah, if you're a new customer, get a fucking free iPhone 16, a free apple watch and an ipad pro and i'm like i called
one day and i was like hey can i get the apple watch and the ipad pro they're like you uh you
already have an account buddy yeah isn't that fucked the fuck it's even like that with like
fucking like these days it's even like that with like companies like these days, it's even like that with like companies you work for too, right?
It's like, you know, the new employees will be enticed with all these benefits.
But if you've been there for years, it's like, no, no, you have to go to some other company to get like enticed with some fucking benefit.
It's just like such bullshit these days, like human nature.
So like that's why it is fucking nice to have this like extreme accountability with like, you know, crypto and things like that, where it's like, um,
I don't have to wait for somebody to approve me to get something. I don't have to fucking,
uh, you know, it's just, all you have to do is be very fucking careful, right. That you don't,
that you don't send your shit to a centralized exchange, like stats that have a fucking, you know, uh, ordinals
on them or things like that.
Right.
I mean, and especially when like, they're worth like fucking, I mean like a wizard,
you know, uh, I think those things are back up to like, they were at 0.2 at the mint.
Um, some of them have sold for like well above that some of the rarer ones
rarer ones uh we're taking a look here yeah i feel bad for dude i would have never guessed
that that could happen honestly in my head it's i mean i've only ever i haven't really
gotten balls deep with ordinals i have some silly ones but like in my head, it's like your Bitcoin is like, why wouldn't
you hold like your Bitcoin in a separate wallet, like a real wallet that you don't play games
with?
And then your ordinals in it, your art is in another one.
That's exactly it, man.
That's like fucking common sense.
Yeah, it definitely doesn't make sense to have just like one wallet with everything,
especially if you're dealing with, you know, larger amounts of Bitcoin or more expensive assets type of thing.
So it's definitely seems just kind of irresponsible.
I think I forgot also I was going to say.
Also, I checked Taproot Wizards.
I think our point one seven five is the floor.
Oh, yeah, there we go. So that's like a shitload of fucking,
you know,
money just to be like willy nilly sending off,
you know,
out of nowhere.
And,
and,
and that is one thing why,
you know,
like you mentioned,
Rose to have your stuff in like,
you know,
one wallet for your fucking,
you know,
ordinals or whatever the fuck.
And,
and,
or even like,
you know,
split amongst multiple wallets or whatever.
So that at least,
you know,
you get to kind of decentralized,
but that's one thing why I like that. let's say experts wallet Or a bunch of these other like ordinals wallets where they're kind of like they have one address for the ordinal
They have another address for the Bitcoin and then it's kind of like
So you're clearly like okay, I want to receive
Separated gotta keep them separated
Let's fucking go. What do you think of this joe
oh no joe's rugged his massive penis is covering up keeps hitting that button and
he can't control it just beep beep he's like he's like can you guys hear me now with the
cock is just like muffling the whole fucking thing he can't even find his phone uh oh man
we got the yes come back joe and we got the best audience don't we we got the best audience in all
of crypto i mean my god there's wasi glow there's sabio there's 420 there's mutatio 83
my god the best of the best and of course legends like droz legends like cynthia legends like
joe dead with his massive his giant bitcoin penis covering his phone
he can't even speak in the space it's just right in the way oh my god uh and not to mention
i can't believe you're on episode
two on nine bro dude yo thank you so much man like that's actually crazy like me and cynthia
just been absolutely crushing it every single fucking night you know like uh it's crazy like
we do this every single night and uh you know there's a lot of shows that will that will they'll
start they'll get on a bit of a run they'll do a week maybe two weeks and then they'll just be like
well we're taking a break now or you know they'll come back like a few weeks later and then they'll pick up from there
but yeah we just i can't believe it too 219 fucking nights in a row and uh that appreciate
them i appreciate you showing up here and uh you know that's just the thing it's kind of become
like uh it's become like a habit now you know it's like i'm like oh it's time for the show
uh gotta hit the gym we gotta you know and there's like, I'm like, oh, it's time for the show. I got to hit the gym.
We got it, you know, and there's Zach down there as well.
We love Zach.
We love the wishy washy.
What do you think of all this, Cynthia?
Yeah, it's definitely a part of the routine now.
It's like, oh, we're shows coming up.
I better figure all my shit out.
And I usually have my coffee ready and that kind of thing.
So, yeah, it's definitely part of the routine.
And like, I look forward to every night as we've talked about if we if we weren't enjoying ourselves and having a really
fun time every night then i don't think we'd it would be as easy to do you know it would just be
a drag and we'd be cutting the show short like we'd show up for 20 minutes and be like all right
guys well we went through the charts uh have a great night take care we'll see you later
so yeah that's exactly it.
And it's kind of funny, too, because, like, that's how we used to, like, do it in the beginning there, right?
Like, you know, we'd kind of, like, pop in, read the charts a little bit, fucking, you know, be like, well, you know what?
It's been a good 30 minutes or whatever.
Bye.
But, like, yeah.
But then now we'll get people pop up.
And I think that was different, right?
That was different.
It wasn't as routine, right?
You weren't starting at the beginning.
You weren't starting the spaces at the same time necessarily every night type of thing.
And it was a bit later as well than now, right?
And for a while, we were starting an hour later than we currently do too, right?
So I think that's helped a bit.
But now it's become like there is an actual start time every single night,
right. It's not just like people guessing when the show will begin, right.
Which makes it easier for sure. Um, so I think that's,
that's a big difference as well. You know, I mean,
there are some shows out there who don't even really start on time,
not going to name names or anything,
but they have a start time and they don't even really start on time not gonna name names or anything but they have
a start time and they don't necessarily start at that time uh and then they might even have like
minutes full several minutes of absolute radio silence at the beginning of the show you're just
like is my phone working is is this working or is this is this me are they talking damn it i got
rugged but no they just they're
just sitting there in absolute pure silence with nothing going on and then all of a sudden boom
some some random music will start playing uh and not you know not a dedicated custom theme song
like we have here in the mystery zone and it's such a great song that thing sometimes it's gone
in my head just when i'm like not even here but it's so true
actually like i'll literally be like going you know driving to work or something like that i'll
get the song stuck in my head i'm like oh my god honestly i'll just i'll just be doing something
and i'm like oh wait that's in my head now i hear it and i i've also realized that's probably now
the song that i hear the most consistently and most often. Like, I don't know
if there's anything else I really hear. Like, I hear it every single day at the beginning and the
end of the show, right? And I'm just like, I don't think there's anything else that I specifically
will hear every single day, like twice, pretty much. So it's it's definitely in there. So now
we've listened to that song, like, I mean, you didn't have it right at the beginning, but we're gonna say we've listened to that song like uh i mean you didn't have it right at the beginning but we're gonna say we've listened to that song like close to 400
times probably it's gotta be that like it's literally gonna be topping the charts it has
to probably be like the top ordinals fucking song at this point we're gonna have to inscribe this
thing or something i mean it's a great song too though that's the thing it's like a really catchy
fun song it's not it's not annoying it's really enjoyable so like every time you play it
i'm not like oh i hope the song like you know when you over like the credits on like the beginning
credits or the song on netflix or something like that you're like okay i've heard this theme song
a million times just skip to the episode no like i'm always happy to listen to it
that's so fucking true and it's funny too too. Cause it's like, you know,
it's just like a nice little piano fucking, you know, vibe. And, uh, you know,
it's, it's, it's kind of, it was, it was kind of like, um, I don't know.
Cause like when I, when I do some things, sometimes I'll kind of like,
I'll get, I'll, I'll take a look at the landscape, see what's out there,
what's going on. Right. And it's just like, you know,
everybody in ordinals usually uses like someone's existing music or
whatever.
Right.
They'll play like whatever the fuck.
Right.
Like some existing musician.
And I was like, you know, I thought we want some custom.
And then I like looked at like Joe Rogan's like podcast, for example.
And it's like, it's always the same thing every, every time.
Right.
So it's kind of like,
I want it to be something where it's like people start to kind of recognize it just with the song as well right so um and uh
you know i mean we're fuck we're out here every day memeing scheming dreaming talking about the
culture talking about the blockchain talking about the fucking art the incredible art right
and uh so much more and my, don't we love the memes?
Right. Like, uh, there's something about memeing that I just love. You know, if I'm ever like
feeling like shit, you know, I wake up with like, fuck this day, I'll just post a meme. And I'm
like, Oh, that's funny. And then I'll post another one. And I get myself fucking laughing, belly
laughing. And before you know it, I'm like i'm vibing i'm vibing i like this
um so i don't know what we do without those memes you know you gotta have that laughter
you gotta have that laughter and uh you know every once in a while we post those horny memes
too right and the people are loving every once in a while i was thinking the same every five minutes every five minutes yeah really see ass and titties on my timeline every five minutes because of you bro mission
accomplished right you know dude the one today that was just like i was like oh my god this is
this is like pushing the limits was those two chicks bending over the double bottom the double
bottom i was like this is fucking the The double bottom. I will say this.
I think we have similar tastes in babes.
Hell yeah, brother.
Hell yeah.
You know what else?
Also, about seeing things on my timeline all the time.
Cynthia, you're doing a good job losing weight on your fitness journey.
I don't know why, but both of you guys are always on my timeline.
What fitness journey?
Hold on.
She's posted beautiful legs every single day.
Or every Friday.
She said, what fitness journey?
Wrong puppet girl.
My bad.
You know what I'm talking about?
I think you're thinking about Queen Arf, right?
Yeah.
That's who it is.
Because I did see she posted.
It's funny because she's the one that created the Le Popettes, right?
Which is what
Cynthia's rock in there.
Cynthia's like, what fitness
journey?
Bitch.
Although I gotta say,
those legs she's posting on those cloth off Fridays.
Hey, yo, let's fucking go. And, and you know, that's funny. Cause like, you know,
the funny thing is, right. Is like, uh, I had this idea that like, okay, if I post
pictures of like, uh, you know, chicks that only the guys will do it. But then I was like a real,
I found this, like whatever, this research thing that guys will do it. But then I was like a real, I found this like whatever,
this research thing that was saying like,
no women and men both appreciate beautiful women.
Whereas men only like beautiful women,
not so much the men.
Right.
So I was like,
so I should really hit.
Yeah,
exactly.
I can't believe I've done this.
And so I was like,
if I post beautiful women,
I hit everyone.
Like all the women love it
the men love it and dude it's been proven so right because like uh most i'd say most of the
people that like kind of like these horny posts are are women which is the funniest thing right
like i'll get a lot of guys liking them but i get a lot of fucking women liking them too and like they're admiring them and so
uh there's only like 17 of us left here in crypto 17 of us women left
yeah we're getting all 17 women liking these things every time uh and it's actually kind
of funny because there's like some women that like they don't like any of my tweets
but they only like the horny tweets.
So it's like, uh.
Maybe they're the ones who secretly have OnlyFans accounts or something.
Oh, they might be.
They might be, right?
You know, that could.
I accidentally replied to OnlyFans girl today.
I didn't know who it was.
I was just like driving and I tweeted tweeted i ordered thai food and the girl
on the other line the other end of the phone was like and then and i was like no way like i laughed
so hard and i was like no and then she was like okay i mean what else and i'm like no i i'm sorry
uh nothing that's it and then someone commented on it, and I thought she was an NFT chick.
She posted a GIF, and I was like, ha, ha.
And I replied to her, and then I looked at her profile, and I was like, who is this?
And it was OnlyFansGirl.
I'm like, not OnlyFansGirl is evolving with the replies in the comments.
That one actually got me.
Usually it's just a link or something, or a like.
That one was spot on. It was a, usually it's just, like, a link or something or a like. That one was, like, spot on.
It was a GIF from Dude, Where's My Car?
I'm like, what the fuck?
Yeah, that's like when you know your child.
They've hired executive assistants or, like, digital assistants to, like, reply on guys' posts, right?
Like, on crypto guys, they're like, oh, these are, this is low-hanging fruit.
Let's get someone to go around replying on all these guys posts they're actually yeah there's oh my god they're adapting
they're evolving they're they're they're putting up the fucking relevant memes that and then uh
such a fucking funny one too yeah i couldn't believe it i felt bad because the the thai
girl definitely didn't know why i was
laughing or why i was like making fun of her i thought she did it on purpose because she literally
was like and dan i was like no way that's right it's kind of funny too like that's the funny
thing about this space though so you get kind of everybody like you get artists you get like
you'll get like you know like devs right you'll just get people that are just kind
of like gamblers or whatever like you know traders and things like that and then you'll get like the
you know yeah you'll even get like the only fans girls that are are like you know into it
predators exactly they're they know you got they know these guys literally predators
straight up it's like the movie predator right they got the like the laser
sight thing locked on ready to fire that's what the fuck laser eyes are about you know
that's so fucking true right like oh he's got a cartoon picture that's one of them
dude recently like i've been going ham like arguing with like soft people on politic posts and they love to, to talk shit about me having a cartoon picture or, or they're like, yeah, well, at least I'm not peddling worthless cartoon pictures.
And dude, there was this one, one guy said that to me and I was like, bro, this isn't an NFT.
He was like, yeah, that's why you have a worthless S NFT is a profile picture. And I was like, this isn't an nft he was like yeah that's why you have a worthless ass uh nft is a profile
picture and i was like this isn't an nft my autistic little brother drew this for me
and everyone was like boo
i paid an artist to make this it wasn't i don't have an autistic brother but i just said it to
make him sad you know well that's what they say The puppets were drawn by an autistic Dutch boy.
So, you know, maybe it was the same one.
You know, maybe it was the same.
But I know it's cool.
Yeah, they just hate NFT people, man.
Like the internet, like, we're like something that they think they can bully.
Like even, even like, you know, like, I don't know what the right word is,
like liberals or whatever the fuck.
But, you know, they're not supposed to make fun of gay people or retards or trans people.
But it's okay to fucking make fun of people that like cartoons.
That's so fucking true, actually.
I think that's kind of different in a way.
Like, I'm not saying it's right to make fun of people for their preferences.
But, like, let's say you're born with, like, a disability or whatever, like, you can't,
like, do you, you know what I mean?
That's just, like, how you are. Okay, well, I think
being gay is a preference.
I mean, it's a preference, but it's not,
I don't, you know, it is
a preference, because everyone
has, like, a preference, right? You either
prefer men or women or
both or some other
some other you know
stuff yeah I mean preferably
preferably not
not animals
I'm not I can only control myself
I'm not you know I'm not
the preference police but
yeah
Jodette has his hand up curious
to hear what Jodette has his hand up. Curious to hear what Jodette is thinking.
Oh, no.
His massive dog.
Hell, yeah.
Hell, yeah, dude.
Did you just say 1,000 X coin just dropped?
Holy shit.
Jodette, I think you got to do a round trip, my friend.
I couldn't hear him at all.
Yeah, I couldn't hear either.
Joe, you might be having some issues there with the thing.
I don't know.
I think you can hear us, but we just can't hear you.
We see you unmuting and whatnot.
But my God, my God.
And there's Droz.
What a fucking legend Droz down there.
You know, supporting artists as well.
Getting artists to draw his pfp
not even like a nft collection or anything like that you know and uh my god looks like he's dropped
here oh we lost both draws and and joe but you know what though it's just it is interesting
though right like how there are these different pockets of twitter and i mean even if you look at like different pockets
of um like social media right oh shit yeah hell yeah you're doing the research you're doing it's
also weird how there's like i don't know what it is there's like a 10 second delay or something
like that i did a test one time somebody was like all right if you can hear like when i go three two one
clap or whatever right and then it was always like the clap came like 10 or 15 seconds after that uh
yeah usually no we're for sure the speakers are always in the future usually i have to do a round
trip mystery and i like leave for a second come back um i usually end up hearing like my own voice
for a second or whatever because i hear what we spoke about like a moment ago oh yeah that's yeah there is there is typically a delay yeah i'll always be like well
guys i'm gonna hop down i'm gonna jump on this grenade let somebody else come up and then i'll
drop down and be like well guys i'm gonna jump on this grenade blah blah blah and it's just like
what the fuck so yeah yeah there totally is uh it's like there's two audio feeds going on here. Joe, welcome back.
Can you hear us?
Can you hear me?
Oh, my God, we can hear you.
Hold on.
We were going through withdrawal, my friend.
You know, we just need that giant Bitcoin penis, that Bitcoin giant penis.
I need it.
I need it in my ears.
Go ahead.
We need that in our ear holes right now.
And we thought that your phone was being smothered by that
bitcoin giant penis and that's why we couldn't hear you but you've moved it out of the way now
you've maybe moved the phone to a different location it's uh safe from the penis so you need
to get like a little um one of those little holders for the phone and have it near your face
and that way hopefully keep it out of um the range like not out of the range of the penis
i guess but just like out of like the area where it could just fall on it right and just totally
muffle it um but hi joe sometimes they say you know that penis has a magnetic personality right
which which uh kind of distorts the phone maybe you can't uh you can't get the signal through
uh but yeah what do you think of all But yeah, what do you think of all this, Joe? What do you think about all this?
Yeah, so all I was going to say was, you know, like, if people are gay, you shouldn't make fun of them.
People are retarded, you shouldn't make fun of them either.
But these gay, retarded NFT people, you should definitely make fun of all of them.
exactly right the gay retarded nft people are the ones to make fun of right uh and and you know
Exactly, right?
The gay, retarded NFT people are the ones to make fun of, right?
like when you see a puppet you know out behind the wendy's dumpster in in a in a gay man pile
definitely make fun of them right you know uh because uh they just my god you know trading
puppets trading builds character it builds character it builds character exactly right
and they say your penis grows three times every time you do it.
And shout out to the audience, by the way.
We absolutely love the audience.
What do you think of all this, Cynthia?
The other thing that I find amusing, it's like, you know, normies here on Twitter trying to make fun of people like us.
And they don't realize that, you know, most people here in crypto and stuff we're sort of nerds we've
always been kind of nerds for the most you know for the most part uh i think we're all pretty you
know we're sort of used to getting made fun of i think we all got made fun of at one point or
another growing up and uh it's not really a big deal they can just say what i'm invincible
i'm a ginger oh man so yeah you So, yeah. You've heard a lot.
You've been through it.
You've been through the ringer.
You've been through the ringer.
We're stronger than that.
They're like, oh, I'm making fun of you.
It's like, okay, well, that's really not a big deal at all.
Dude, I'm so good at making fun of people.
I got into a huge argument.
It was like literally a gaggle of people like on alt accounts just attacking me the other day and i
destroyed every single one of them to the point where they stopped talking that's the way to do
it man and you know it's interesting though like kind of how you were talking about how like
you know every once in a while you go to like the political twitter and things like that
uh because like that it's so fucking funny how like literally anywhere outside of uh
outside of like you know nft crypto twitter uh everyone absolutely hates fucking nfts like you
go over to reddit they hate nfts but strangely enough the executives there were able to actually
sell them nfts by just calling them digital collectibles and suddenly they're like oh we
love these right but they only love them if they look like the reddit character but then like you go to like gamers like gamers
are fucking literally buying like uh fucking guns that have fortnight skins yeah fortnight skins
character skins right digital assets digital sabrina carpenter fortnight skin yeah exactly
like i'll log on to like a call of duty
or whatever like war zone there there's somebody that bought a terminator skin he's got a fucking
golden gun and shit right i loaded it up the other day for the first time in two years and
it loaded me into a helicopter with three ninja turtles i was like dude i'm fucked that's exactly
i don't even know what's going on anymore you're're like, when the fuck did we lose the plot here?
And that was the same with me.
I hadn't played it in years.
And then I was like, oh, fuck it.
I decided to play it like a couple, like a week ago or two weeks ago.
And I was like, what the fuck?
There's Terminators.
There's Ninja Turtles in here.
People paid money for that shit. But then you talk to those same people and you'd be like, would you want like, you know,
NFT?
And if he gets guns or characters, right,
that you actually own it,
they can't just like...
No, no, no, no.
Get it out of my face.
You're killing the environment.
Fuck you.
Exactly.
What do you think of that, Cynthia?
Yeah, it's funny that they,
they're really on this, you know,
you're killing the environment whole streak
because a few years ago,
that was the narrative that was pushed to them through the mass media, right, to kind of try to keep people out of crypto, right, because they obviously don't want people to have autonomy over their assets, their money, you know, basically brainwashed people into thinking that it's a bad thing by just adding it on to this whole like we're killing the environment thing.
Right. That's been going on. And the thing is, as you guys, as you know, like the whole we're killing the environment thing just like changes shape every every so often, like back in the day in the 90s, it was like, we're killing the rainforests and there's a hole in the ozone.
And then the whales and like, not to say, I love whales, don't get me wrong.
But they just keep changing what they're sort of focused on.
And now it's just like, ah, the whole world is heating up and we're killing everything.
And it's NFTs. NFTs are doing it, definitely.
Even though most people don't even use NFTs or engage in crypto.
But that's exactly what's killing everything.
It's not at all.
What the fuck about a TikTok?
It's not at all Netflix or Microsoft or Google or, you know, cloud services.
It's not any of these other things.
It's not Apple.
It's not any of these, you know's not apple it's not any of these you know hundreds
of other companies that are massive that literally almost everybody uses uh constantly right uh it's
it's just these like you know the the group of us here in nfts and crypto who are just doing all of
the damage it's only us like it's none of that other stuff that's what's crazy coin giant
penis is not killing the whales well it might be killing them because it's gagging them right like
you know it's getting stuck in their mouth and then they're fucking gagging on it um hey
that's collateral damage that's collateral collateral damage you know i actually saw a
fucked up video just before i came in here i was like this whale fucking came up and eating a boat he ate the whole boat dude i think we have the same
twitter bro we must have the same algo everything like we got we got the booties showing up we have
like the nfts we have like the politics every once in a while and then we get the fucking boats
getting eaten by whales i think he's stalking you oh god you know that would be that would make like a good
meme every time i like find shit like that i'm like if it's ever a crazy video i'm like oh shit
this would make a good meme right but like i never know what it would be about but like that's there's
got to be a meme about whales you know fucking buying the whole supply or something like that
as the whale eats the whole thing or something like that but usually if i can't figure out like the the the funny comment within like a second or
something i give up on it right because it's like you can't force it right it's got to be something
that's like organic and it's like but usually i'll come back like i'll get a brainstorm like
maybe after i've done a little cardio or something my mind rushes a little blood through there and
it's just oh fuck this would make a
funny fucking comment for that but what do you think of this cynthia um yeah i have a question
for joe dead are uh bitcoin giant penises organic or are they like their preservatives are they
grown with pesticides anything like that just curious because you know what i mean i i care
about that bitcoin giant penis is all free-, organic, grass fed penises.
Oh, my God.
I love to hear that.
Oh, bullish.
For clarifying that I'm so bullish on that.
That makes me so happy.
I love them even more now.
Thanks, Joe.
That just made me extremely bullish on these Bitcoin giant penises.
They're organic, grass fed, right?
No hormones except for testosterone, right?
The naturally occurring testosterone just coursing through its veins.
And my gosh, show.
They're just driving on their natural penile impulses, really.
You know, when people are talking about their P&Ls,
I'm always thinking about the penile Bitcoin giant penises, really.
You know, I don't pronounce it P&L. I just pronounce it penile, and then I think of the Bitcoin giant penises, really. You know, I don't pronounce it P-N-L.
I just pronounce it penile, and then I think of the Bitcoin giant penises.
That's what I think of as well, you know?
Same thing.
We're on that same wavelength, mystery.
We're on that same wavelength.
And, you know, really, at the end of the day, it's always just about dudes comparing their
peniles, isn't it?
Oh, man.
And by the way, shout out to the audience.
We got the best audience.
There's Emil.
There's Zach.
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There's SWM.
That incredible wizard.
That tapper wizard.
The shake machine is out here.
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He's got those primos that are coming out.
You're going to want to check those out.
Link in his bio.
There's Wishy Washy.
What a fucking legend.
Just washing that corn.
There's Crab. Oh, my god. I'm kissing him. And there's 416 Trader, right? And then Mr. Mike, the legend. So
just shout out to the best of the best out here vibing and thriving, showing up every single day
because that's what we're doing here. We're out here every day. 219 episodes. I can't fucking
believe that. It's like um it seems
like just yesterday we did like a hundredth episode and then we did the 200th episode and
every time we did that we gave away some bitcoin cyborgs right um now we're basically like on the
19 episodes after that like that's crazy and by the way this space is brought to you by the bitcoin
cyborgs 10k collection which is minting right now.
You know, the original Bitcoin Cyborgs, we launched it, me and my brother, on March 4th of 2024.
It sold out in two days.
And then it did like fucking five Bitcoin trading volume on secondary.
People were just losing their shit.
Loving it.
It got up to a 0.013 Bitcoin floor.
And then people were saying, please, Mr. E, let's get a 10K.
We need more of these.
I said, well, I don't want to just rush anything through.
So they said, okay, well, please.
And every fucking week, every day, they were coming up saying more and more and more.
So we worked our asses off for like eight months,
created the Bitcoin Cyborggs 10K, right?
With love, with love.
There's hilarious traits in there, right?
And you're, well, there's a, there's a fucking booty trait.
Can you believe it?
Where the cyborg has a fucking bag of ketamine in his right hand.
In his left hand, he has like a rolled up dollar bill, right?
And then there's a fucking fat ass booty right in front of him with four lines of ketamine
on it and a spank mark on the other cheek.
And you just know he's having a good evening.
And that's a real trait, right?
That's a real fucking trait.
We've also got a legs trait, right?
Where it's like, it looks like the cyborg is just banging this chick.
So I guess this is a completely unhinged collection.
It's very on brand with the horny posting. Uh, and can you believe it? These are just, well,
0.0013 Bitcoin plus fees. So like that 0.0013 by the way is like probably $10, maybe less than
$10 to be honest, uh, with the way the corn is. And, uh, well, those fees may be like 20 bucks,
something like that. So, and you can get those right now on Inscribe Now at the link in my bio.
Or if you go up to the top there, right, pinned to the top, there's the link.
It says, if you got the Magic Eden airdrop today, you can swap some of it, mint Bitcoin Cyborgs.
There's a link as well.
And it's just too easy.
Really, all you do to mint those, you put in your ordinal's address as a receiving address,
right?
You click the next button.
It says, Hey, send this much Bitcoin to this address.
You do it and instantly detects the payment.
It starts inscribing those.
You don't even have to connect your wallet.
A lot of people got rugged by some of these, uh, you know, sites on Ethereum because they
had to connect their wallet.
You don't even have to do it on Bitcoin.
What do you think about this, Cynthia?
And then we'll go to Joe, dad.
Well, you know, I absolutely fucking love the Bitcoin cyborgs.
I have many of them now.
I think I've got about six or so.
And I want more.
I do want more.
I'm just a poor artist, though.
And that's unfortunate.
Otherwise, I'd just be like minting them all the time.
That would be the best.
If I could just like mint one, you know, at least least one a week i really would like one a week at least
that would be that's a good idea that would be so fun right if i could just mint one every single
week maybe even two a week um it's like oh i did i did this chore like i you know i got something
done let me buy myself a bitcoin cyborg to reward myself like a little treat
that would be so nice it's actually the best way to reward yourself right it really is it's like
better than it's better than getting going to get a coffee or i mean i can just make my coffee which
i have done so i have my coffee now i have my lottie my my lottie my not my lotty latin latin latin latin i've got it here now um but yeah uh bitcoin cyborg not
only is it better than going to get a little like treat like a snack but it's also permanent and on
the blockchain so it's like it's not like i'm going to eat it and then it's gone and i'm like
i want more it's like no i get that it's in my wallet and then I have it forever if I want. And the Bitcoin Cyborgs are awesome, and they're so affordable, right?
And the mempool I just checked is only at 3 sats per vbyte, so it's still quite low.
Still quite low, so those fees are not going to get too high,
because you guys did a hell of a job compressing these files.
Just absolute banger job compressing the files.
And still really good quality. So it's
just a steal of a deal, really. At this point, you really want to get those Bitcoin Cyborgs while
they're still available because one day you will wake up and you're going to be like, let me go
mint a Bitcoin Cyborg, but they will be absolutely minted out and you're going to cry. You're going
to cry tears of the bears and you're going to cry. You're going to cry tears of the bears. And, uh,
you're going to make, you're going to have lots of regrets at that point. So.
Well, that's absolutely right. And you're going to be thinking like, maybe if I have a couple
wanks real quick, like maybe that will ease my pain, but it won't. No, it won't. You're just
crying now. You're wanking, right? You've got, you've got your tears as lube, but it's just not
going to help. It's just not going to help. Like you might get a little more moisturized from that, but it's not going to help with the pain that you're going to suffer. And I do remember when after the after the original collection came out and that discord was just gagging for a 10K collection. They were just begging.
gagging for a 10k collection they were just begging they're like every single day there
are people asking you for a 10k collection you're just like oh yeah we're working on it i think like
it's coming we're gonna figure it out um so now it's here now it's here and it's absolutely amazing
and uh it's got fantastic traits you've even got the dogs of war which is the very first
animated series to ever be inscribed on Bitcoin.
It's not for sale.
It's just out there for everyone to enjoy.
So everyone should go to Magic Eden and watch that because it's an absolutely fantastic animation series.
And as well, speaking of fantastic, I also see that the absolutely amazing Itchitoshi has joined the room.
He's here.
Shout out to Itchitoshi.
We love that man.
We love his little wiggles.
Make sure you go check out the little wiggles.
Absolutely fantastic collection.
Also full of just beautiful, wonderful traits.
Really fun.
Really fun stuff and unique stuff.
So get those little wiggles.
Get those Bitcoin cyborgs.
They go hand in hand.
Oh, they really do go hand in hand,
especially because you know what?
Itchy actually put in cyborgs traits
in the collection.
Would you believe it?
You can get the half exposed brain trait, right?
It's just incredible to see.
Honored me so much when he did that,
when he put that in there. So get yourself a little
wiggle. And by the way, he's got his own platform. So you're really just like, you're cutting out
the middle man, right? The middle person, the middle woman, whether whoever it is, but you're
cutting them out, you're cutting them right the fuck out and saving yourself some money, right?
And as a result, it just saves you more money to buy more little wiggles maybe
even more bitcoin cyborgs so i absolutely love it and what do you what do you think of all this
joe dead what do you think of all this hey i was trying to ask about the original bitcoin cyborgs
collection i didn't know there was an og collection how do i get one of those oh dude that's a great
fucking question you have to go to the floor you
just got to go to the floor because they are minted out uh they're on magic eden but you're
gonna have to go and uh hang out on the floor and find some amazing ones there uh because that's the
only place you can get them i have one of those it's the best it's got like a panda uh hood or a hat and um you gotta go to magic eden and i want it go go look i let me see what the
floor is for that absolutely amazing collection do we're gonna go to magic eden to the bitcoin
cyborgs i will i will have that information for you in just a second but mystery is right they went up to like 0.013 or so
um back in the day so it was like 1300 bucks at one point for those bitcoin cyborgs which is crazy
so people did really well on that collection it was like a free mint um and uh people were doing
well where the hell that's like that was the coolest thing is like i was actually
getting dms from people that were like uh dude like you made me fucking rich off these cyborgs
i was like holy shit like and there was a free mint right it was like a free mint and uh you
know what we're gonna we're gonna double oh one oh my god is the floor point double oh one and
there's some fucking cool ones down there on the floor uh there's only two floor point double oh one and there's some fucking cool ones down there on the
floor uh there's only two for point double oh one and then it goes point double oh one two
double oh one two three and so on and it just keeps going up um and there's some awesome ones
so oh my god one in a wizard tape near the floor there's a gm mug which we love there's uh the cool um it's like the
i can't remember what this trade is called let me check it's like the mechanical oh the mask no
that's not it sorry it's got the cool face with i guess it's the mask is it like that map yeah the
mask zero yeah and that's actually inspired by that. The very
first, you know, like the ordinal zero, right. Uh, if you look at like the first ordinal zero,
it's like that, that, that kind of Mexican style skull thing. Right. And, uh, that's what we wanted
to honor that by putting that in there. And we also have a jacket zero inspired by that as well.
But you know what I just found out actually there's an arbitrage
opportunity um a very good one actually oh my god you yes yes okay so if you go to okx right dot com
it's like web3.okx.com slash nft slash collection slash btc slash bitcoin dash cyborgs right well you they fucking uh the floor there is just point triple oh eight five
uh so you could get a discount actually and the one that's on the floor there is actually like
the 254th rarest right rarest it's uh top 254 and also we're taking a look on uh the hands trade it's got the thor uh hammer there's only 11
thor's hammers in the whole collection that same one i'm gonna see here is actually listed for
0.0013 bitcoin on magic eden so uh that's fucking interesting that like that person has listed it for 0.00085 on okx but then
they listed it for 0.0013 so like right away you're saving yourself fucking like what is that
like i mean if bitcoin was 100 000 it would be like 130 on on magic eden but it's like only 85 on okx and okx has zero trading fees as well so uh you're
saving 2.5 on trading fees and i think the only thing is you got to use the okx wallet i think
is how that works what do you think of all this cynthia and then we'll welcome itchitoshi to the
stage what a beautiful man that itchitoshi oh my god i love you itch toshi uh first off um the legend wassey glow has let us know that
looks like there is a bitcoin cyborg honorary from code was i just pinned it to the top
that oh my god oh my god what a code was honorary. I am. I'm waiting for the top to update.
It still hasn't updated yet.
Holy fuck.
Oh my God.
What the fuck?
What in the fuck?
Right.
How cool is that?
So shout out to Wossie glow for letting us know about that.
Fuck.
I'm going to say,
Holy fuck.
This is so badass.
Cyborgs fucking love you.
Cyborgs fucking love you.
Is that a wasi cyborg?
It's a wasi cyborg.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
This is crazy, man.
Wow, wasom.
You know, the funny thing is actually is uh
i swear i came up with the the the wasum name way back when we were doing these wasi podcast
before the puppet spaces were wasi spaces and there i used to i used to like anytime somebody
would say awesome i'd be like oh that's fucking was. But I was like saying awesome wassum.
And there was one day I remember I was like, oh, fuck.
I went off on it.
I was like, I love the way I say awesome because it's wassum.
It's wassum.
But like, I don't remember which episode that was.
But one of these days I got to go back and listen.
It's a portmanteau.
Yeah.
What's that?
It's a portmanteau.
Oh, portmanteau.
Is that what that is?
When you fucking mix the two together?
Oh, that's so cool.
Sounds French as well.
It is French, yeah.
We love when you speak French.
So shout out to the legend, Wassey Globe, for pointing that out to us.
Shout out to Code Was.
Code Was, by the way, is like a project by Bacon Wassey and some others, I believe.
I'm not exactly sure who's on the team, but it's all the legends from the wasi so you're gonna want to support that uh and i believe it's coming it's gonna be
on ordinal genesis and holy fuck if this is the art this is the first time i've seen the art
that is so fucking cool i'm uh i'm gonna post this in the uh cyborgs art channel as well but
welcome to the stage it'sitoshi you absolute gorgeous gorgeous
man gm itchitoshi we love you code wasp we love code wasp we love itchitoshi welcome to the stage
itchitoshi how you doing this evening or this morning for you possibly oh it's still evening
for me mate yeah but gm how are you doing i just in that picture that is fucking well tidy that i
like that indeed that wasp with the uh board brains mate but yeah i'm doing all right how are you doing? I just seen that picture. That is fucking well tidy, that. I like that indeed, that wassum with the bald brains, mate.
But yeah, I'm doing all right.
How are you?
Nice to say hello to you, Cynthia.
And you'll see my new PFP honking away we are now.
Back on honking.
I see that.
I see that.
He's honky-tonking.
Honk-honk to you, my friend.
Honk-honk indeed, Cynthia.
But it's more like a wiggle-honk.
It's like a wiggle-k, wiggle honk combination.
You'll notice the worms are dick riding the back of my goose,
just like I do in real life.
So it's a perfect embodiment of my reality.
We love dick riding Ichitoshi.
We absolutely love the dick.
I'm riding a good dick,
and I feel like it's a good segue for Joe Dead, that.
What's that, did you?
Did Joe Dead say, what that worm do?
Did you say, what that worm do?
What that worm do.
What that worm do.
Wiggle, wiggle.
It wiggled away.
But I was just saying, yeah, me talking about dick riding,
it's probably a good segment for you to talk about grasping your large penises.
I believe they go down quite well with a lovely cyborg i might grab one of each this evening while i'm just
uh sipping on this lovely mojito we've been talking about those bitcoin giant penises uh
quite a few times this evening they are just so i mean they're hard to miss they're so big
uh they're girthy and uh they just explode with the love of Bitcoin.
So shout out to Joe dead and his Bitcoin giant penises.
Just fantastic.
Oh my God. Nothing goes down better than a Bitcoin giant penis and a low wiggle.
Purr.
Better than that,
than both of those things.
No offense to Joe dead,
massive penises or my glorious wiggles, but
a cyborg is a superior piece
of artwork, especially when we're in your space,
my friend. We can't be talking about other
people's things being greater than yours, so people
should go and get one of your things, mate.
Oh, dude, that means so fucking
much. And, you know, it's cool, too, because
I did pick up
a Goosinal to support
the gooses, you know.
Have you guys ever seen that movie, The Postman?
The Postman?
It's got, like, it's like an older movie.
It's got, I don't, I want to say Mel Gibson.
No, it's not.
It's the guy, shit, who the fuck is in The Postman?
Who is in The Postman?
But basically, it's an apocalyptic movie.
It takes place in a future Americaica where like society has gone to shit
and uh there's like these like tribes right that uh that kevin costner kevin costner
yeah yeah yeah and these tribes wander the wasteland and like there was a guy that used
to be a fax machine salesman in the old world but now he's's like a tribal leader who's just vicious as fuck, right?
He just enslaves people and all this stuff.
And then there's Kevin Costner who gets caught by them.
He gets branded by them and then he escapes.
But he finds a postman, like a skeleton like a postman thing in some old abandoned car
you know uh and he takes the packet the bag and he like delivers the mail and then all of a sudden
people like holy shit i didn't know there was still mail delivery and then he starts delivering
and then he starts inspiring people to deliver the mail but then at the end of the fucking movie
he gets into a fight with with uh the guy that like you know
had enslaved people and show that the gang leader and that guy's like what rat do you have to
challenge me what rat do you have right and because you can only challenge leadership of
the clan if you are one of them but who decides that right, who says, why is that the rule? I think fuck your rules about which clan can challenge you
or who can challenge the clan.
I mean, who decided?
Fuck you.
Not you, Mr. You.
Just that, right?
I would challenge them no matter what.
But you know what Kevin Costner does?
He rips off his fucking, his fucking, like, you know,
his shirt sleeve, and it shows the brand that they gave him.
He's like, I have every right to challenge you.
And, uh, that's, so that's why I got the Goosenall, right?
It was because I was like, you know what?
Um, I can't, I can't say shit to the, any, any motherfuckers, right?
I got to have the collection.
I can't say shit to the puppets.
I can't say shit to the fucking Goosenalls.
I can't say shit to, you know, whoever can't say shit to you know whoever the fuck right
unless i got one of those and so now now you know i didn't i didn't give a moment i uh i can
challenge any of these collections for leadership of the clan um and uh and that's just the way it
is so that's yeah so i've got a goosinal now i've got a goosinal uh just like the postman got the
brand right so
what do you think of all this Joe dad what do you think of all that hey I was
just gonna ask you about the goose no with the worm on it that's what oh
that's a good fucking goose and oh that's a good fucking
I yeah I just accustomed drink because i was uh i was like hanging
in the space a bit more and i've done a bit of artwork for dgen so i just drew this and uh
i mostly just inscribed it just to see how much attention hype was paying and he was paying a lot
of attention because straight away you noticed he went are you inscribing doosanals right now
and i went i've just done one for myself but yeah just this why how does that guy keep up with everything like what is with that
guy and how does he do it i need to know isn't it pardon i said the man is a god isn't he i must
admit i i like hype a lot and the goose and all so i have a lot of love for those guys so yeah i
think he's amazing oh sorry i thought you meant uh not that i don't love hype i thought you meant
djen was uh paying attention and keeping up with what you're doing.
All right. No, D-Gen wasn't paying attention to that. No, no, no, no. Hype was, uh, doing that.
D-Gen was trolling this evening, I believe, and he was doing a alarmingly, uh, successful job as
well. Oh, well, I mean, he's, he's quite good at that. He is, he is a man of many talents,
that's for sure. Um, but yeah, hype is quite good at keeping up with a lot as well. So,
uh, you know, we know some very talented keeping up with a lot as well. So, uh,
you know,
we know some very talented,
intelligent people here in the space.
I just feel like an absolute idiot half the time.
well,
you know,
we're all,
we're all small.
We're all small brain motherfuckers just whipping our dicks and tits
around.
And,
you know,
uh, eventually we, we strike gold and, dicks and tits around. And, you know, uh,
eventually we,
we strike gold and,
shout out to DJ.
And yeah,
he's a great fucking troll.
And,
and no,
that's just the thing is that he's always out there,
just fucking with people and,
you love to see it.
shout out to DJ.
And then he's also like building a lot of cool stuff too,
actually.
Like,
which is, which is like neat. Like, I mean, he's always kind of, and you know, another thing that like a lot, not a lot of really like people really realize about him is that, uh, he, he does a great job kind of supporting artists. Cause like he'll, he'll hire like artists that are kind of having like trouble or whatever. Right. Like they're struggling. Like let's, let's, let's say like, you know, Nairobi, nairobi for example right she's always she's got a lot of cats she's living in like the philippines i think and she's got all
these cats that she's trying to feed but it's expensive to feed cats and they're kind of like
stray cats right um so they're just looking for food and so she's always yo give them my number
oh fuck yeah there we go that's the way to do it well it's not it's nairobi right and she's
actually got a collection on ordinal genesis uh called bitcoin hamsters that's minting right now and um
it's a really cute fucking collection and the thing is like so djen will hire her we'll hire
like other artists to make like a collection with him and then he'll he'll you know he'll sell it and
and then you know they'll get the proceeds and things like that. Or like, he's, he's opened up that Ord X, uh, website as well. That's, um, minting
some cards and he actually made like a, it was really cool. It was like, he was in the space
one day kind of joking around about like, Oh, we should get puppets and cyborg, like cyborg
puppets. And then next thing you know, he's created like some cyborg puppet cards and the
art looks really cool. So, um, I minted one of those actually. And, and, um,
I think there's just a very small batch on his Ordex and I think they're
actually like limited edition. So he's going to be cutting that off. Um,
I don't know, like within a week or a couple of weeks or something like that.
So, um, it's called like a founder's card. So yeah, shout out to DJ and what a
legend met him in Nashville. Great guy. um yeah and uh yeah so fucking you know yeah you're right yeah
and like you said he's building stuff too and he supports people even let me make a little card to
try and fight back against the communist dictatorship we've got over here in the uk so
he's even willing to help people who are suppressed in in various different aspects too so yeah a good
lad and nairobi's a lovely girl she just had a birthday too so a good time to go and
get one of her hamsters absolutely yeah that would be a great birthday gift for her you know i bet
you'd appreciate that and uh a very affordable price as well so and it's cute you know i think
uh i think the cute meta is eventually going to come big big time and uh you're not going to be
want want to be without one of those hamsters you know um and uh fuck yeah yeah i just kind of like so well too
she makes like that um the the small friends that she has recently put out is adorable and she has
so many different people in there she just added some people in um today i think today and i'm i got included which i was
really shocked about but she did such a super good job she put me in a kimono um and i'm holding my
bra as i'm wearing this kimono so it's super cute but and then when i first saw it i knew mr u was
in there so i was like looking around for him and he's like in the back chugging some like wine
out of this goblet it's's so funny. It's amazing.
I love that.
I love that way.
She, cause I rose to a while.
She'll do one with like all her friends and stuff.
And it'll be so funny.
It's kind of like a, a state of the time sort of picture.
So like, it's really cool.
And, uh, it's so funny that like, we just mentioned her cause suddenly like she just
liked my, uh, I posted this, this, uh, tweet stock traders versus crypto traders.
And it's like the stock traders, if something's down like 5%,
they're just fucking rolling around on the field like those soccer players.
But then it's like, or football players, as you call them in the UK.
But then it shows like the crypto guy,
they're like the person they're down 30% or whatever.
And it's just like, they don't give a shit.
So I mean, she just liked that as we were talking about her so the universe working in mysterious ways um and that's
so cool that she got you in that picture with like the holding the bra and things like that so
uh what fucking legends and uh oh shit code wash just replied fact cyborgs no wasi lingo nowhere
to hide now oh man that's right nowhere to hide those washi's
it's so over for them throws them in a blender fuck yeah oh we absolutely love getting the gang
together out here you know it's just the best vibes right the the vibes that uh you know just
keep us coming back right because like you said earlier there, you know, Cynthia,
is that, like, we just show up here.
We have so much fun.
Like, we're not even, you know, we're not even getting paid or nothing like that.
We just, like, have such a great time.
We show up every single fucking night.
And, well, look at this.
I'm in the side.
I think we're losing money.
I'm pretty sure we don't lose money.
We're showing up here every night.
I mean, like, really? I was getting... We could be behind the wendy's dumpster there you know making so much money just like you know with the glory holes but no right we're here with you the
legends out here what do you what do you got to say about this joe
i thought i heard joe uh pop in there uh maybe I was just, you know, hallucinating,
going off Joe withdrawals, Joe dead withdrawals.
But what do you think of all this?
He was rendered speechless, wasn't he,
by the Wendy's dumpster statement.
I think that's what it was.
He was rendered speechless.
Well, they always are rendered speechless.
They're like, oh, how good could this be?
Oh, oh, God.
And then they just, they fucking, they have the best sleep that night, you know.
And Lando's out here in the Bitcoin Cyborgs Discord,
posting hilarious little memes.
And have a great weekend, everyone.
Hope you have a great weekend as well.
King, let's fucking go.
That's the way we do it.
You know, people are sometimes like, how are you everywhere, Mr. E?
You're in Discord.
You're on Spaces.
You're posting memes.
The timeline.
I don't know.
I got ADHD.
It's ADHD is what it is.
That's the secret weapon out here.
It's a cyborg, isn't it, mate?
That's why.
It's because of that beep-bop loop.
We're calculating at thousands of miles per second.
Oh, my God.
The legend, Elf LaPupp per second. Oh, my God. The legend, the puppeteer.
He never fucking fails.
I love that dude.
He's like the number one person that will like those horny posts of mine.
And he's done it again.
He's done it again.
We absolutely love that legend.
He's a booty man, you know.
And, well, we appreciate that.
Get yourself a Bitcoin man, you know, and, uh, well, we appreciate that. Get yourself a Bitcoin puppet, uh, if you can.
And, uh, you know, it's like we were mentioning earlier in the space, actually, and kind of
started off by mentioning that this dude somehow sent like a wizard and like two puppets to
Binance for some reason.
He said he was tired.
He had a new baby or something, but, uh, you know,
and then Binance said they couldn't give it back. And, uh, somebody else, you know, withdrew some,
some Bitcoin. And can you believe it? They won the lottery by basically withdrawing the Bitcoin
to their wallet. And maybe it was like a Unisat wallet that has like one address.
And so when they did that, they like, it said,
Hey,
you have a fucking taproot wizard in your fucking wallet. Like,
that's crazy.
Someone else is going to get those two puppets.
I'm sure.
you know,
maybe,
maybe start withdrawing a shitload of fucking Bitcoin from Binance.
Send,
send your Bitcoin there and then pull it right out.
You'll get different sats and maybe one of those will have the puppets on them.
Not puppet natural advice.
Not wizard natural advice.
But, well, that's just the way to shout out to Omnity, by the way, in the audience.
Shout out to Emil.
Incredible artist.
We love the art.
Shout out to WasiGlow.
You know, by the way, you know, so he collects headphone traits from various collections, right?
And he's looking, he's trying to get a headphone Bitcoin cyborg, right?
So if you got one, maybe you can trade with him or whatever.
But also, you know, if you mint a Bitcoin cyborgs 10K and you get one that has headphones,
well, maybe let him know.
Maybe let him know because I'm sure he would appreciate it.
That's Wassey Glow.
That's Wassey Glow in the audience.
The one with that incredible Wassey, the glowing Wassey, created by Tsukino Wassey or Gamal
Wassey as he's also called, creator of the Wasseys, the original artist of the Wasseys
that started it all so look at that
it's funny how art you know you draw uh like a hentai penguin right and the next thing you know
people start rocking it and start making lore for it right that's what i love about art you know if
you release art and then people start running with it and like oh hey what if every two weeks
they fucking die you know and
and you have to like sacrifice them to the market by like throwing them in a blender or running them
over with a car or something like that hilarious smashing them with a hammer not pizza pets are
they yeah are they pizza pets that's basically the fucking feeling right oh man rip to frost fang by the way the pizza for a little frost fang we miss him so
we hardly knew we hardly knew him and of course left with that clown totem
just laughing in my face just laughing in my face from my wallet with that clown totem graveyard, gravesite, oh my god
oh my god, like imagine
oh man
every time you look at that wallet it's like, I'm a clown
like, well we all knew we were clowns
and you know, every time I look in the mirror
I'm reminded of the person that's responsible
for all my financial losses
it's me but with clown makeup
so, yeah, that's just how it goes
just how it goes out here.
I feel that mystery.
I feel that.
I look in the mirror.
I'm not wearing makeup, but somehow I am.
I'm wearing clown makeup.
It's like a tattoo on us that is only visible in the mirror.
And, my God, you know, it's just the best vibing with the best people out here the best legends
nobody does it better and uh well that's just how we fucking roll that's just how we fucking roll
and uh you know sometimes we look at the bitcoin charts there as well the magic eden
ordinals charts right i mean like that's crazy right we did mention the bitcoin cyborgs on
magic eden our 0.001 bitcoin floor right the original cyborgs collection but on okx there's
an arbitrage opportunity those motherfuckers they jeeted down to 0.0085 bitcoin for the same
cyborg so you can get yourself and that thor's hammer there's only 11 in the whole 808 piece
collection um when those ancient bitcoin whales awaken they're going to be sweeping those floors
so what do you think of that cynthia but everyone should really go and mint uh bitcoin cyborgs 10k
uh mint a bunch of those and then take a look at what's on that 808 collection floor but first
mint some 10Ks.
You know, you could buy,
you can get a few of those too.
You can get, I don't know.
I didn't do the math.
It's a little late.
It's like 1.30 in the morning.
I didn't do the math.
You can get at least a few of those Bitcoin Cyborg 10Ks
even for the lower price.
Let's do some calculator math here.
Oh, maybe I did that wrong.
But you can get a few at least um for that price so you
should you should do that oh absolutely think about that later you know that's a that's a
really good fucking point right like that's a really good point is because like you know with
those original 808 um you know like it was kind of funny because like everyone was like telling
me before that they're like yes there are royalties on secondary for, for, you know,
ordinals and stuff. I was like, oh, fuck it. Well then hell yeah, I'm definitely doing a free mint
for these. Right. Uh, and then there was no, and especially when the fucking trading volume
was going off, it was like one Bitcoin, two Bitcoin. I was like, Ooh, geez, I better,
I better start collecting those royalties that are probably waiting for me. And then
Magic Eden's like, no, there's no royalties. I was like, oh, okay. Um, and then magic eat is like no there's no royalties oh okay um
and then you know like people were ridiculous it was crazy right it was the whole thing's ridiculous
sorry not to cut you off no no no just to say like back in 2021 one of the main draws for
artists getting into uh you know nfts and everything was that there would be residuals
off of the art, right? Because
everyone's just out here trying to eat. And it's crazy if let's say, you know, you sell a painting
or sell a piece, sell something. And you don't really have any, you know, you sell it for a
hundred bucks, let's say, and then you don't really have any dominion over what happens later.
And someone could later sell it for like $100,000. And then
where does that leave you? That leaves you with $100 still. And it was a draw, right? Especially
considering the way everything goes with a lot of, you know, characters. And so think about Disney,
right? It's like, let's say Disney couldn't keep making money off of Mickey Mouse for everything.
Like they couldn't, they couldn't make any money.
They could sell Mickey Mouse, but you can't make money.
You just got to give them away.
You just got to give away the plushies and the this and that.
So it's kind of the same thing where you like, you kind of want to reap the benefits.
I mean, there's, you know, all the streaming services, they're making money all the time
from everything that's put on there.
And so it's kind of the same thing. You sort of, you know, the digital world has changed everything and you
wanted to, you just want, you're not asking for a lot. You're just asking to a kind of keep track
of what happens to the assets that you put out there, the art you put out there in the world,
and maybe just like a little sliver of the pie once it
passes through hands. But that was taken away from us. And like, that was, again, one of the things
that was really helpful. Like people in the early days were getting royalties when there were
secondary and tertiary sales and stuff. And that really made a big difference. And the fact that
we don't have that anymore is kind of damaging. And it kind of goes back to the system that we don't have that anymore is kind of damaging and it kind of goes back to the system that we were under before, right? And people deserve to continue to make something off of those or redistribute some of those funds back to the original artist, right?
I mean, it's just silly.
And there's so many different professions and different things where people are making money hand over foot from, you know, maybe not necessarily doing as much.
They didn't make anything.
They're just kind of the middleman, as you mentioned. Right. And so it just just unfortunate that the whole kind of the sales uh even the five bitcoin that the
original bitcoin cyborgs the volume they did like five bitcoin we could use five bitcoin
that would be amazing you could do so much with five bitcoin but they're like no no we don't even
want to give you a percent of that five bitcoin we were just going to keep it all and that sucks thank
you that is such a great fucking point cynthia like exactly and you're so right it was like back in you
know 2021 like that was like the number one thing that was like uh that was like enticing artists to
come over it was that you know and to put their art on chain was that they could get um you know
they could they could finally make a living off their art you know they could finally uh you know
i'm just taking small small like you know whether it's like a one percent royalty or whatever two
percent i think the ford apes were like five percent for a while or something like that
maybe it was maybe it became a little bit less but i mean like you know nobody nobody had issues
with with uh you know supporting these big collections, right. Paying royalties to that and things like that.
But one thing I think though, is it's, it's very interesting. Like there's a lot of, uh,
like I say, ordinal collections from the early days where the founders are no longer around,
right. Like they're, they're just nowhere to be seen. seen um and so it's kind of like you know in many cases
like the communities feel feel kind of like abandoned or whatever right people like who
kind of like supported them um you know maybe they maybe they paid like a decent price up front
but then because the the founders like were like oh well there's no point in me sticking around i'm
not making any money right i mean like you were lucky like in a sense without trying to sound like an egotistical
bastard here right uh like we're lucky that like we have guys like you know it's your toshi for
example that are just showing up all the time sticking around all the time right um you know
i keep showing up even though i'm not making any, any money off like
the cyborgs or whatever, right? Like a lot of people made money off the cyborgs, right? Um,
and, but I just still show up every day cause I fucking love it. Right. I love the community.
And I'm always kind of thinking like, you know, if, if people support me, like that's a very
precious thing, very special thing. Uh uh it's not something that was very common
in my life you know i kind of came from a place where people were like fuck you like there wasn't
very much support and much much love right so then you come to this place people are actually
like hey i want to i want to buy your art i want to support it that to me like means so much it's
like it's almost like a little fucking ember of a flame. Right.
And you want to be careful that that flame doesn't go out. Right.
It's also kind of like that scene from gladiator,
the first gladiator, or he's like, there was a, there was once a, what was it? Like once, fuck once a dream of Rome.
And it was so precious that even to whisper of it could blow out the flame.
Right. You know? So, you know, so it's just kind of like, I don't know. Like, I feel like it could blow out the flame. Right. You know, so, uh, you know,
so it's just kind of like, I don't know, like, I feel like it's special that there's people here
to abandon people that supported you. It's like, okay, you bought the art by like I'm gone. Right.
Um, so I like to fucking stick around, right. Even though I'm not making any money off of it,
but I mean, my God, if, if there was royalties right how many more founders
would have stuck around would still be like even building innovating trying to find you know trying
to basically support their community right and then i also think as well it's like i think that
would promote like a kind of a healthier secondary market right because like i mean you know if the
collectors and and you know buyers are willing to participate in in the resales like they they know value is going back to the
original creator right uh and i know that's something that like i always thought was cool
was that i was like you know i know that the creator is getting something from this so i feel
better uh you know buying it from a secondary person right right, you know? So, yeah, so just things like that.
What do you think of this Joe dead?
And then I see Ichitoshi's also, I think, has something to say there as well.
So what do you think of that, Joe?
What do you think about all?
And by the way, shout out to the audience.
We got the best audience.
We absolutely love the audience.
There's Santa who has joined us as well.
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What do you think of this, Joe?
Hey, I was actually just going to mention Itchy's website
by which I've minted some wiggles.
Let's fucking go!
He has his own website where you can just log in.
You can mint for free, like cutting out the middleman there so i mean maybe we're gonna see a
draw to that sort of website where people are hosting their own mints i mean it would be
beautiful because it would cut out like those fees sometimes are a serious percentage of the mint price. And it's great when you can just give that money to the artist directly.
Mint your ordinal and give them their money.
And it's a beautiful thing.
I mean, I would love to do it for a Bitcoin giant penis.
I'm just lacking the know-how.
Hell yeah, man.
I just said part two, like Bitcoin giant penis part two.
Part dicks.
Part dicks.
Bitcoin giant penis to the revenge.
The balls have dropped and now it's time to take over the chain.
But you know,
yeah,
you're still right.
Like that is so awesome that itch.
She is like created that,
that platform that just allowed.
And I,
and I believe like you also offer kind of people like to,
to use that,
like to implement it into their own sites.
I think you were saying before,
um, you know, that, that I was thinking the same thing, Joe, it's like, cause yeah,
you're using a ordinal Genesis I'm using inscribe now. Right. And, um, man, it would just be kind
of like neat to just say, fuck the fuck, fuck those platforms and just do it. Um, you know,
just do it myself. Uh, especially because like I did, like, every once in a while,
I kind of get good at coding and things like that, right?
Like, it's kind of funny.
I get up to speed on things pretty quickly,
going from knowing nothing about it to, like, learning it.
But then, like, if I don't need to do it too much,
I kind of, like, don't, and then I get a little fuzzy on it.
And so, for example, back in like 2021,
I had the dog tag NFT collection, which is where the cyborgs came from. The cyborgs were a very
rare type within that collection. They were far rarer. Right. And, uh, and you could mint them
and they, you know, they had the half brain exposed. They had the shoulder armor and, uh,
and they were always like jacked. Right. Um, and, and so the funny
thing is, is like, I, I'm actually learned how to program, uh, like a decentralized app or like a
DAP, uh, using JavaScript that, that you could then mint it right from my website. Uh, and it
actually worked well. It like, it worked really well. Right. Otherwise you could, you just had
to go to the smart contract and mint it from there right and uh which was like easy enough but like it was
really cool just having that so i was kind of thinking it might be kind of neat to bring back
that uh you just go to my site you mint it from there and uh you cut out the middleman fees and
things like that right so uh that yeah that but it was very sweet to say like
that but i mean like how joe dead said it you made it sound very fancy and so did you but it's
nothing overly new under the sun i mean people have done it um before with a lot of stuff i mean
it just looks very nice but so you're very sweet to say but i mean loads of people don't know the
people who did it much earlier on um they did it in a way that was far more impressive to be quite
honest because like now you can just use um xversus library it's called sats connect you can like anyone can use
that and you can implement that into your website and use the exact same uh infrastructure that's
that's in my site it's like literally it's available to anyone just go and talk to xvers
go and talk to to jan or whatever and they'll hook you up straight away so it's that simple but
um i think sam like like Zach had known better,
but Sam Sage from the Nookies,
he did something with like a PFP collection
where it was all inscribed directly through his site natively
and you could like change the traits and stuff.
It was like really cool.
And he did that in like the first year of Ordinals.
I mean, that was really revolutionary at the time.
But I mean mean you can
use a site as well called uh recursive builder.io and you can preview like um recursive inscriptions
in there and like um p5 and stuff but even on their site you can inscribe it directly uh through
their site too so there's quite a few tools out there but if you ask around people are very helpful
to like uh help you like i mean sam was one of the ones who was really helpful to me in the first year, too.
He was very kind to say so, but honestly, there's loads of other people out there who've contributed and done so much more as well.
But no, I thank you very much for saying so. It's very kind of you.
Oh, that's so awesome, man.
And does your thing allow you?
I think the one thing I do like about like, uh, uh, well, I mean like, okay.
So like the first, whatever, 500 or whatever, uh, cyborgs that, that were inscribed.
Like, I mean, the original 808 all had on-chain metadata.
Cause like, I think inscribed now is like the only ones that were offering that.
And then, so like the first, whatever, 450 or however, however many have been minted
of the 10 K collection.
Um, those also have like the on-chain metadata. So like, I feel like if I was ever to like,
you know, switch from like, you know, using inscribe now to, uh, to just like my own thing,
I would want to make sure it's kind of like a seamless sort of thing. And so that I was still
able to inscribe the, the JSON data or whatever with the ordinal. So, uh,
that's one thing I'd have to, I'm sure it's not that tricky.
Like it's probably just an extra, um, what do you call it?
Like perimeter when you, when you mint or whatever. Uh,
cause I have inscribed some stuff directly from my own node. Like, uh,
you know, like the original but you know obviously like
the dogs of war the first animated series on ordinals uh that that we did like we we kept
getting gatekept like we wanted to do a four megabyte ordinal with just one full animation
uh like a one you know 10 minute animation or whatever it was seven minute but uh
but they kept gatekeeping us like they wouldn't actually fucking help us so that's why i spun up
my node and and did that but um but you know i've never like it was it was a very basic command
line like it's like you know uh here's the directory where my Bitcoin is.
Here's the directory where my, you know, my fucking ordinal, you know, the file that I want to inscribe is, and this is the fee rate I want to use, blah, blah, blah.
Uh, so I'm sure if I was to do like on-chain metadata, it'd probably be some extra perimeter
where it's like, you know, uh, something, right?
It depends how you do it.
Like, I mean, um, there's a guy who's doing his
mint at the moment called og dad he's a nice guy i've spoke to him a few times he has oh yeah i
like him actually he's cool yeah yeah he's a good guy he's uh he speaks quite highly of you two so
you've made an impression on him too oh fuck dude that's so cool man yeah because he made an
impression on me i was really impressed with him actually and i believe he's doing the misfits collection no he put his uh he did svg so he put his um his like um metadata into each file itself so i mean
you could use something like that but like you say even if you're using uh json you can still
sorry json java oh my god uh jay anyway yeah sorry it's a bit late for me it's like 6 30 here so
yeah it's been the late oh okay yeah yeah yeah that's that's fucking sweet well it's interesting yeah because uh uh yeah because i
think because he i did see like that the misfits were using like the the magic eden thing but i
believe with the magic eden launch pad you actually have to like inscribe them first
right before they will like they don't they don't do the yeah they make you inscribe it
all first i certainly don't envy him at all because he was uh he was doing all that before
and he inscribed each file beforehand and then uh yeah it can soon get very expensive as you can
imagine yeah that's fucking crazy because like i calculated at the time at the fee rates that
the original cyborgs collection was uh like the you know the 808 collection was inscribed at like it was so
cool that was one thing that I loved about like let's say using inscribed now or ordinal genesis
it's almost kind of like you're crowdsourcing the minting right and uh yeah 100% I 100% agree
with you on that because you can't get um I've noticed this it's like anyone who's using an
independent like platform people are completely reliant on your link
and let people share in your link.
So if that's not seen very visibly on the timeline or whatever,
then you're not going to get that casual stumble across.
Just before I do forget, I was going to say,
I don't think you'll like this,
but I slightly disagree on the whole royalties thing
because it's a bit like how you touched on it.
It's like, what's to stop, say, for instance,
a founder setting up royalties and then just disappearing?
It's like, they'd be not having you for people to do like CTRs and stuff.
And it's like, oh, they know Joe, he did that with the rabbits
and they did a really good job of it.
It's like stuff like that wouldn't necessarily be able to happen
because you'd have a founder who's disappeared,
who's theoretically still collecting royalties unless they were willing to change it or something well see that's
that's kind of interesting right now like i respect that take but like i almost feel like
so like the guys that like i feel like a lot of the older founders would probably still be around
if there was like royalties and maybe they'd still be like showing up kind of like every day and stuff
like that but because they're like oh well uh you know i minted this stuff
you know it minted out but like i didn't get any money like i mean it's like not everybody is kind
of like us that will like show up every day even if they're making no money and things like that
right it's just because we love the community we love the memes we love the culture we love the
people and the art and things like that but like there's a lot of people that like maybe they were
just in it for the money. And then once they realized,
there is no money.
Well,
I'm gone.
And then now there's a community that's like,
well,
we got this art,
but like there's,
there's nobody.
I mean,
and then,
then again,
like who's to say that's good or bad.
Like,
you know,
the decentralized nature of the blockchain is like,
do we really need leaders in this day and age and founders?
And some,
sometimes it does feel like though,
that, you know
like if the founder sticks around the community has a little bit more glue and things but what
do you think of that cynthia what do you think and then welcome also santa we'll go to cynthia
and then we'll go to santa as well yeah i definitely respect it's a toshi's um point
of view on that and i know like i know what you're saying um but yeah, I think, Mr. E, you make a good point with that. I think
the problem is that, you know, obviously people do need to make some money as time goes, especially
if, you know, you're in Web3 full time or you're an artist full time or whatever it is. And the
problem is that once, you know, once your collection, let's say it mints out, especially if you did a free collection, right, and then everyone got it and they start trading it and people and the price goes up and then a whole bunch of people are making money off of that, which is cool.
I have no problem with, you know, people profiting off of that and continuing to make money as the collection gets more popular or whatever.
continuing to make money as the collection gets more popular or whatever.
But if you're as the founder and the artist not seeing any of that,
then it kind of makes it hard for you to,
to continue working because you're not, you know,
you haven't been able to gain anything from that.
Unless if you, you know,
minted a bunch yourself and you sell off the ones or some of the ones that
you've minted type of thing.
But then people at the same time
are still asking, okay, well, what next? What's the next thing you're going to do? Give me more
stuff, make another thing. Right. And so if you haven't been able to earn anything from what you
originally created, and then people are just asking for another free mint, right. It does make
it a little bit more challenging.
So I'm not saying like, oh, I'm trying to make like a fucking, you know, millions of dollars
from one mint or anything like that, right? Just trying to like pay the bills, eat food,
you know, make sure my cats have food, stuff like that, right? Like simple stuff.
But as we've seen, there are founders and collections that have a, let's say a higher
mint price or something, um, or not, and they just sell a lot and then they just disappear.
Anyway, they made like a ton of money and then they peace out.
They completely abandoned the collection.
So I think, you know, it's not specifically about royalties or anything.
It's really about the people behind the project right
and there are people who are um who are honest and who have integrity and want to continue doing
the thing and showing up every day like like we do here and like it's a toshi does and you know
jodette's always around and emil continues to be around and, you know, all sorts of people. Right. Um, but then there are the people who just take advantage of the situation.
They sell a bunch of stuff and then they made their bag and then they leave.
Right. And, um, so it kind of, it just kind of sucks.
And it's always going to be about the people.
There's always going to be some people who, uh, in it for, quote unquote, the right reasons or whatever.
They actually want to see things grow and they want to support the collection and the people that supported them.
Right. Like we are here or there's going to be some people who don't want to do that.
And I think that's part of. Sorry, I don't have a good train of thought to me.
It's all over the place.
Uh, but there are people, there was going to be some like bad apples, right.
But we shouldn't let the bad apples, uh, ruin it for everyone else and, um, force everyone
else to like essentially work for free type of thing.
Right.
And continue providing value to others without actually uh receiving anything for
themselves you know so I think that's kind of what it is like I'm happy to make art and put
stuff out there but at the same time like there has to be like we love art and we love making art
as artists right but at the same time it's it's more difficult to continue to make art um when
you're still worried about like paying your bills
and you have to have like a totally other totally different other job in order to do that right it
really takes away from that creativity and being able to focus on your community members and
creating more for them so I think that's kind of the issue right so everyone everyone deserves to get like a piece of the pie that's going around
especially if you're the one who kind of made the dough and cut up the apples to put in it and did
all that stuff in the first place right that's such a good point i like that analogy too like
yeah you made the dough and all that stuff and uh you know it's just kind of interesting right
because it's like yeah yeah, you're right.
It's just like, you know, it's like artists need the money to, you know, support themselves and to live.
And, you know, it doesn't seem like it's accessing too much.
And I mean, like if there wasn't artists creating art, like these platforms wouldn't have anyone that they're making their money off of.
wouldn't have anyone that they're making their money off.
And I was kind of curious, right?
And I was kind of curious, right?
Because I was like, you know, the Bitcoin puppets,
they made something like 3,000 Bitcoin, right?
So I was like, okay, what was that equivalent?
I think it was like 3,193 Bitcoin or something like that trading volume, right?
And then I multiplied the U.S. equivalent of that by, you know, 2.5%.
And it's basically like $6.8 million, basically, right?
So, like, if you think about it, that whole, basically the $10 million, you know, airdrop that just went out, like, with Magic Eden.
Like, it was pretty much, like, most of that could have been like money they made from, uh,
from fees on just the puppets alone.
Just the puppets.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like,
isn't that crazy?
Isn't it?
Yeah,
that's absolutely crazy.
And then there's,
you know,
a whole bunch of other collections that are also,
you know,
have also done a lot of volume like that,
where they've made magic Eden,
like,
you know,
single or double millions of dollars,
just in that,
just in that just in that
tiny little two and a half percent uh trading fee right and uh so they're like you know from
what you can see they're making a fair bit of money over there um and that's just with the
trading volumes of a few of the biggest collections not to mention like tons of other
you know smaller collections
where it's like oh let's say a collection only sold you know a few bitcoin or whatever but still
that oh no you cut out cynthia oh i got muted it muted me it doesn't oh my god it didn't magic
over there at headquarters being like no don't
talk don't like someone someone silenced her who do we know on twitter get me on the phone with
they do this they do yeah i bet you they do santa i bet you they fucking do you know
it's been happening to me a bunch lately um but yeah like even let's say a few thousand like i
don't know how many collections there are on Magic Eden, even on just Bitcoin alone. Right. But they also have all those other chains as well. But let's, um, a few Bitcoin in volume. Right. And then
they make 20, 50, 60,000, maybe a hundred, like whatever it is. Right. But that adds up times
like thousands that really adds up. So it really, um, they really make a lot of money, even off of
some smaller collections that only do a smaller trading volume not to mention all these like massive collections where uh they might sell a you know the volume might even be like a bitcoin
in a single day on like the higher days right like we've seen some we've seen some big numbers
some days and we've been looking at those charts so um they're sort of not really you know need
like not needing but like they're still doing well,
even on the slow days when things are down, right?
Oh, totally.
And like, especially with like, let's say like collections,
like let's say like Taproot Wizards, for example, right?
Like all it really takes is like,
and especially as things ramp up for like, you know,
let's say hypothetically the bull run is coming, right?
Like right now, let's say Taprootapper wizard is like 0.175 Bitcoin.
It only takes, like it only took six sales today to get 1.2 Bitcoin.
I was just looking at that.
Yeah, 1.2 Bitcoin.
Like who, I mean, again, they don't make the 1.2,
but at the same time, that's like a lot of money to be flowing through your channels, right?
And then the Node Monkeys is more than half a Bitcoin and then the node monkeys is more than half a
bitcoin and then airheads more than half a bitcoin ordinal maxibiz half a bitcoin so like throughout
those just those four collections they've basically done like two and a half bitcoin right or more uh
like yeah and then you get that like two and a half percent on that like that's not a bad little chunk of change right there you know and then yeah and i could picture during like the bull run let's
say like i mean like if this bull run is anything like last cycle right like when the cycles always
seem to be a little bigger than than the last cycle right and there always does seem to be a
bull run period right um even if it's just a few months or whatever how long like you know whatever it
ends up being so i could foresee like i mean last cycle the board apes hit like a five bitcoin
equivalent floor it was 100 eth same with crypto punks so it's like assuming we at least you know
even if even if the cycle somehow isn't as big as like last cycle and we just see 10k collections that hit one bitcoin uh floor imagine like a few sales a day on one
bitcoin uh floor right you know like there's like three bitcoin right there just off three sales for
example on one collection right and then let's say a bunch of collections are just absolutely
pumping it's like they're going to be even more insane with the revenues off that so yeah no that's a
really good fucking point and uh welcome santa as well uh so happy to have you up here what do
you think of all this i was like working and like listening to you guys and i want to be up here um
but i think like as far as art goes like we have to like consider ourselves or not art um trading is vcs right
we're vcs venture capitalists art is a different ball game um you still you're like art traders
right like the people who like if they're if you're looking for sales um it's going to be
people who like you know other people have you know punks and everybody else you know and web
three or they're like yeah this person has like great personality they're gonna like you know punks and everybody else you know and in web 3 or they're like yeah this person has like
great personality they're gonna like you know bring something to the table or whatever else
but like doesn't mean it's like the ultimate there um i have an hour collection a couple of
them um so sorry i'm just like shooting at my fingertips here because i was just doing something
else i'm so sorry guys um but I do like think that really, um,
we will have a bull run. It's coming this year.
Not kidding.
That's exactly how I feel to be honest. Like, I mean, just like, you know,
looking, I mean, like, fuck, it's just like,
you look at the last four, uh, what was it?
Like that's three cycles with Bitcoin, for example. Right.
They all played out fairly similarly, right?
And yeah, and so it's kind of like, you know, I mean, even if we just look at the way I think it was July of 2021 was where the crypto punks and the board apes really started to fucking take off with their uh floor prices right yeah and so that's kind of what i'm prepared for things
to be a bit slow until around maybe like you know july august or something but like um and then
everything it always seemed to pump like 17 months after the having was the bit it was the underlying
bitcoin price and uh and then like last cycle we had like you know, the NFT craze. So NFTs did trail very similarly with like, let's say the ETH price, right?
And Bitcoin and ETH were both kind of like rising at the same rate, it seemed.
Like, you know, like the charts were kind of somewhat similar.
But so if you think about that, right, then yeah, if, if Bitcoin is 17 months after the having,
that would put us around, I think September, mid September, right. Cause the having was like,
uh, was four 20 last year. Right. So 17 months after four 20 is basically like September 20,
I think is what it is, uh, of this year. So, uh, I think you're right. Like, I do feel like we're
going to have a bull run. It might not happen until maybe July
and then go from July until September
or something like that.
Not a super fucking long time,
but enough for shit to go crazy.
Enough to sweat a little bit.
What's that?
Enough to sweat a little bit, right?
Yeah, enough to sweat.
Exactly.
What's that, Angie?
Sorry, I was just going to say,
if you're unhappy with paying that 2%, I'm only going to say, I'll forget just gonna say you know if you're unhappy with paying that uh two percent i'm only gonna say i'll forget this shit if not if you're unhappy
with paying two percent to uh magic eden then you can always go and use unisap they only charge
0.5 as a service fee when you're purchasing stuff on their marketplace and inscribing it's
actually free so yeah china number one on that one. So a big win there.
Oh shit. I didn't know that actually, man. And, uh, and, you know, speaking of China,
China, you know, OKX, like we mentioned earlier, uh, the original Bitcoin cyborgs collection, uh, like a 0.0085 Bitcoin floor versus the 0.001 Bitcoin floor in Magic Eden. So there's always
like these arbitrage opportunities. But if you're thinking of buying one of those, maybe mint a Bitcoin cyborgs 10k instead,
because that actually gives me and my brother a little coffee money. You know what I mean?
It's just the $10 plus fees. And that $10, let me tell you, you know, half goes to my bro,
half goes to me. We, we buy a little coffee, get a mcdouble um so it's just a beautiful
thing uh yeah but uh you know i do love that like if somebody buys you know a cyborg off of like the
the secondary markets like somebody else is actually making some money and i do love seeing
people make money uh off the yard as well so it's like win-win either way. But there's one way, and you go to that Inscribe Now link in my bio
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And, of course, check out Cynthia's incredible art.
She's got the blockchain sprinkles.
She's got the Restless Path Photography.
That's also pinned up top there.
So just love supporting artists.
You know, I picked up one of Joe.
I picked up some of Joe, I picked up some of, uh,
Cynthia's blockchain sprinkles. I picked up some of Ichitoshi's little wiggles. I picked up some of
Joe, uh, one of Joe dead's, uh, Bitcoin giant penises. Right. I picked up a fucking order
nookie. I picked up like Emile's art. Uh, so like it just goes to show I'm out here,
you know, talking the talk, walking the talk walking the walk and uh there's a lot
of fucking founders that i feel like are out here they're making millions of dollars right
they've they've sold a whole collection but like are they really reinvesting back into
the the ecosystem right like they give zero fucks exactly is what they give yes that's exactly how
i feel santa like that's actually an interesting
thing like i always find it interesting when there's like these you know these guys talking
about how ordinals are the future this and that this collection is going to change everything
you know everybody fucking mints it out right they make like millions of dollars and then it's like
you never hear like seriously if i had a platform where I had hundreds of thousands of like followers and hundreds of thousands of like, or just a shitload
of people buying, buying stuff, I would be like featuring artists all the time.
Right.
I would be like, check out this person's art, check out this person's art.
Because I just feel like it's, it's cool.
Like if you have, if you have a platform, it's kind of cool to use that for good purposes, right?
But there's a lot of these founders that they have the platform, but they will not even mention a single collection, right?
They're scam artists.
Yeah, it's fucked, right?
They heard somebody from Fiverr, and they made some kind of project, and they're scam artists.
They always are
not always but like a lot of the time a lot of the time like um so puppets i don't think so
that was like pure like ms paint bullshit i even didn't like it when i was minting i was like what
am i minting like what the fuck is this you know i was like kind of pissed that i was minting i was
like you know what has my life come to um i've got these like i've got graduate degrees and i'm like i'm minting msp and puppets
and they're in design too so like i was just like oh man but that was a good choice right
and like so there's some things that work out but like oh most of the people in this space like
this is what i love about twitter spaces is, you kind of meet people that you can, you can feel them out, right?
You know, like, if they're going to be, like, solid people, like, long term, and if they're going to, like, totally fuck you over, you can play with the ones who are going to fuck you over.
And, like, you know, just, you have to make sure that you don't ever take it personally is the thing.
ever take it personally is the thing and um 90 of people here 95 will fuck you over
and i'm not saying people on spaces like actually spaces gives you like a better percentage but
like people who like launch projects like especially like they're like doing pump funds
or something but um like really it's kind of like interesting like i'm learning a lot about people this way and
wish my bags this year would be a little bit better can't lie about that but um kind of been
in the people space just like learning actually that's a really good fucking point right because
like i do feel like like actually that's that's one thing that i thought was like i always thought was a game changer was coming into the spaces it's it's
almost like you know if you see somebody's tweets on twitter or whatever it's like it's it's kind
of easy to take it like okay i trust this person right but then like you kind of hear them in a
space and you're like wait a sec like this there's like scammer vibes here, like that I'm getting
right.
But like, or, or there's like, oh wow, this is like, this person is genuineness.
Like there's something about the voice that, that you can kind of like detect whether they're
genuine, whether they're like bullshitting.
Right.
And maybe it's not like, you know, I mean, obviously it's not like never a hundred percent.
Right.
But, um, yeah, it's, yeah, it's a lot harder to bullshit when people can actually like hear your voice. And, uh, and,
you know, and then, I mean, the next best thing is I'm like seeing, you know, seeing people in
person or whatever, right. Uh, getting a feel for the vibes, but you really can get those vibes
coming across, um, just with the voice. Right. And I feel like that's been one thing that's just
been, been huge. And, and like, uh, you uh you know like like for example like uh the creator of the bitcoin
puppets like he was always a friend of mine from like the the eth days the wasi days and
and uh you know he had his like lasso get collection and like he had a collection before
that and i don't know if it like did so well but it it was kind of a collab with a bunch of different artists.
And I thought that was neat.
And then he had the Lazoguette, and that blew up.
And then he had the OPM.
It took a little while to make that one up, but then that blew up.
And then, of course, the Puppets did really well.
But you hear him in spaces, and you can just tell he's a genuine dude, right?
Versus some of these other fucking you know guys
you'll hear them and you're just like this guy sounds like he's gonna fucking disappear uh as
soon as this thing mints out right and a lot of times it does end up happening that way it's like
every queen space on twitter almost everything as soon as they start talking about the coin it dumps
every single time even good ones dump now
because of that like that trajectory but like yeah i'm with you yeah that's crazy right like
and that's what's that's what's so fucking like sad about it is that like you know there's so
many like let's say good coins but they just get pumped and dumped right um instead of having like an organic growth cycle and whatnot right so uh
fuck yeah and so it's kind of like um yeah it is it is uh interesting to see a lot like i would
love to see people hold hold longer you know what i mean like not just like dump at the first signs
of trouble and things like that right but like it would be kind of cool if we could see more like,
you know how like the crypto punch and the board apes,
for example,
they,
they grew last night because people like were holding and it wasn't just
like,
I made,
you know,
I doubled my money.
I'm out.
Right.
It's kind of like,
I don't know.
It would just be nice to see.
Well,
that's more,
I mean like punks and apes,
like that's more like people who are likeks and apes like that's more like people
who are like you know they've already made their money i can't be a punk who has already made money
like i i still am fighting every day but um some punks have already made money some basies have
and they are um i don't know on the back end like this is just going to be fine
punks and basies they're going to be fine.
There's a few other collections,
I think, but
really those two, especially
Punks, because they're seen
as the first and not the first, but they
are the first in a way.
So they're going to be fine.
It's that bro boy
or bro lady or whatever the fuck's going
on here um situation
where everybody is in touch with each other and it fucking plays out for them like the i go to
punk's alpha chat that used to be like a great place to like find things to buy not right now
so much well that's very interesting hey like yeah it is kind of interesting how like the vibes kind of
kind of shift a bit right and it's like what used to be a good alpha chat the people kind of move on
and things like that because it really is like the people right and uh and i feel like a good
collection can maintain good people right and um and then it's kind of like and so i think that
kind of ties into like you know you want like the founders to at least stick around or be involved. Right. Because it's kind
of like, you know, whatever they did in the first place had was enough to create whatever it was,
whether it was the art, whether it was their vibes had some sort of magic to keep good people
coming. Right. And, uh, but, uh, and, uh, when, when the good people come, you know, you want to foster that.
You want to keep that spark, that flame alive.
And then, you know, usually, like, good alpha will come with those people, right?
Because maybe they have a knack at finding, you know, things earlier, things like that, right?
But then, like, you know, if they just, if you just kind of attract people that want to just kind of come in, trade, dump, and then be gone, you're not really maintaining this quality of people.
And I think, yeah, it's like people really are like the magic here.
So what do you think of all this, Cynthia?
What do you think of all this?
Actually, I'm not sure if it's like a twitter
issue i saw joda's hand kind of pop up for a second oh shit yes it did i just wanted to go to him
yeah i wanted to check and see because it popped up for like a second then went right back down
you know sometimes that happens it's okay we're not judging anyone for it uh you know
no judgment right like yeah joe did you have anything to say there joe we're sorry if we
uh god damn you know we just have just this beautiful conversation here and the next thing
you know i'm i'm missing the fucking hands uh what do you think about all this joe what do you think
about all this oh man he's collapsed under the weight of his bitcoin giant penis again oh that'd be a workout carrying that thing around just like every day you're basically doing um what's that uh what's that heavyweight lifting
thing called again no no not that like that whole sorry santa oh st deadlifts too sorry
oh yeah no not deadlifts like i um there was that one like group it was like the type of gym
the CrossFit, it's like doing CrossFit
like 24-7
basically
he just cheats and uses
the wheelbarrow, you know
you would need one, right, it's like the episode of
South Park where Randy's balls get massive
and he's reeling them around in the wheelbarrow
oh my god
I fucking love that
he's just like
just getting a little cancer just getting a little cancer you know
and then all the guys start doing it they're all like sunning their balls like no sunscreen or
whatever that's that's joe right there you know fucking legend uh but yeah go on cynthia what do
you think of all that oh yeah no i i no, I didn't have anything intelligent to contribute at this particular moment.
You guys were having a great conversation.
I was just trying to check in and see if Joe had something to say, because it looked like he did.
He just put his hand up and I wasn't sure if it was, like I said, a technical error, because we've had a lot of those errors here in the spaces lately with getting, you know, getting on stage and the hands and all
sorts of stuff. So just wanted to check in with him. Yeah, my brain is not working the best
tonight. That's for sure. You know, we're sending we're sending love and good vibes your way.
The best vibes, right? Because sometimes, you know, I feel that way too. Sometimes like my
mind is just like, all over the place. I'll get like some hardcore fucking uh like adhd going right and like while i'm in the space i'll be like
replying to somebody on the timeline i'll be like checking discord i'll be there and then like i'm
meanwhile like my left ear is like listening my right ear is like you know fucking listening to
what's going on in the background at my house or whatever
and then before you know it i've just dropped the ball on each and every single one thing
right it happens it happens to us all yeah no my neck my neck's kind of hurting so i feel like the
blood flow is not getting to my head properly tonight which happens sometimes but uh i'm doing
my best out here sometimes the blood flow goes to my the wrong head uh
oh my god well welcome to the stage 92 we got the absolute fucking legend 92 out here
what a fucking king what a legend he's you know he's chained up underneath cynthia's desk right
um and he's always uh doing the i always say crochet, but really it's embroidery.
It's embroidery.
Oh, and Joe Dead is back.
Joe, did you have that thing to say?
We saw your hand was up.
Joe does not have the thing to say.
How you doing, 92?
How do you do?
Yo, yo, glad I caught you guys.
I thought I was going to not, but here we are.
Hey, I got a question for you, just because I just picked up my phone,
and I was rifling through some notifications.
There's a dude, I don't know if you guys saw this.
I just randomly saw it.
And let me see if I can pull it up here.
Are you talking about the Taproot Wizards dude,
and the guy who sent the Taproot Wizard to the wrong Binance address?
That guy?
What? No, I have no idea what you're talking about.
No. Okay, but let's get back to that.
Let's get back to that in a second.
But like, okay, so I don't know.
This guy blocked me immediately after like saying something.
So I can't like follow up and ask questions.
You hit a nerve.
I'm on that arc right now and I don't really care.
No credit. This guy's name is No Credits. And he said, what did he say? You hit a nerve. Go ahead. I'm on that arc right now, and I don't really care.
No credit.
This guy's name is NoCredits.
And he said, what did he say?
What if your agent was truly yours?
Not borrowed, not licensed, not licensed, owned.
And then I was in the comments, and I was like,
one can download open source DeepSeek and store it offline.
Bam, done.
And then he just blocked me.
I was like, wow.
He's trying to sell that.
He's trying to sell that.
He's doing it and then sending it to you or having a cloud service for that and charging people.
And he wants people to know that's what he's doing.
That's my guess.
That's my initial gut reaction
is that he is using a free service. He's offering it to people at a cost. And he doesn't want anyone to know that that's what he's doing. He's trying to make it like he did something big and he's going to make a bunch of money off of it so that would be the that would explain that i mean with the momentum of everything i wouldn't put it past him i'm not saying that he's going to do that i'm just i mean
i mean let's just call a fucking spade a spade right like you could you could go you could
fucking right click save all the bitcoin puppets right now and put them on your hard drive ain't
nothing nobody can do about that right oh dude that actually reminds me of like that reminds
me i was in a space one time and this guy came in and he was, like, from the XRP kind of community.
And he was like, oh, the puppets are free.
I can just, like, do whatever I want.
He started actually taking screenshots with his, like, phone.
And you could actually hear the phone go, right?
And then he ended up going and making XRP puppets, which i thought was so fucking funny and the entire collection yeah yeah i think he only oh my god that's like
dedication right there it was fucking dedication because i just kept hearing because he kept
himself unmuted and he and all you'd hear every couple seconds is like right and it was like dude
he's actually remember that guy too you see the guy who did that with his, he was sat in like a flat with his mate and his mate's bird,
and he takes a picture of his mate's bird's feet,
and he has the flash turned on on his phone.
Oh, no.
And everyone in the room sees what he's done.
What is a mate's bird's feet?
All right, hold on.
All right, sorry.
His friend's girlfriend's feet.
All right, I'll play into more uniform.
Oh, I know what you're talking about. Thank you. Yeah, I remember that video. I know what you're talking about. It's more uniform. Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, I remember that video. I know what you're talking about. It's Toshi.
They're sitting around, hanging out on the couch.
The girl has her bare feet
up, I think, in her boyfriend's
lap or across his lap.
And the guy,
the one guy is scrolling on his phone
and stuff, but then all of a sudden
he kind of points his phone
towards the girl's feet
and he takes the picture but because he has the flash on it's just like this massive flash and
everyone looks at him like what oh my god that reminds me of like this one time he was a years
ago uh i was like at this nightclub with with some friends and uh i'm on like the dance floor
and like i'm just uh i just hit it off with this girl. Right.
And we were having like such a great fucking, like we're dancing, we're, we're, we're chatting
and we're like getting in real close.
Right.
And like the chemistry's there.
And then I was like, fuck it.
I got to shoot my shot.
And the thing is like, this was just around the time Apple had just updated the iPhone
so that they added the goddamn flashlight somehow to like the front screen.
So I'm like oh yeah yeah
let me get your number here so like i whip out my phone and somehow i fucking like hit the flashlight
button all right on the dance floor and it brings all this attention to us and i'm like oh man fuck
fuck fuck and i had no idea how to turn it off and i'm like uh i too i totally fucking blew it there but uh yeah so uh fucking hell fucking hell you know
oh if that blew it she's the wrong person she was the wrong one exactly she should have she
would have laughed it off she was the right person yeah yeah and then now she would be
vibing in the zone with us but no she instead she doesn't even know about crypto right she's
probably she's probably like oh i wonder if I could buy some stocks and bonds and shit.
Like, oh, man.
Fuck yeah.
So if anyone, because I can't respond to that post that's up top anymore.
So if anyone has any insight or finds out anything, I'd appreciate it.
But as far as I understand uh immediately blocking somebody
for any bit of criticism at all it's a strong indicator that there's no argument with legs here
oh yeah and just blocking people in general i feel is like just a total like you know like it's it's
it's uh it's dumb yeah it's dumb exactly like i never block anyone even if somebody like i fucking hate them
right uh because i feel like in a way it's like it's like they won you know it's like oh i couldn't
handle you i had to just block you and shit like that and uh and the thing is especially for just
questioning or just saying hey you can get a free deep seek thing so and that's what what cynthia
said is kind of a vibe that i got from from from what you mentioned, what you said 92 was just that, like, it sounds like this person was going to take something that's free, try to like grift it by like, you know, marketing is something that more than what it is.
Right.
Yeah. sorry i see your hand up but i just wanted to say one thing is like if okay if if it's different
then what i said should be polarizing and making the product shine because that's some it's on
ordinals for some particular reason that's you know and so then and like advertise that then
but no i just get fucking blocked like how like it's such a bitch move or like hiding people's
comments or whatever right uh as
well like that's i heard that's a thing you can do i i've never done that i don't know how to
fucking do that but uh i would never fucking do that uh you know at all so it's just kind of like
it because i mean like you know when people find out like people talk right it's like you you're
acting like you're operating within this like bubble um but really
it's like everybody fucking talks everybody's part of the same communities and shit like that
right and uh what do you think of this cynthia and then we'll go to itchitoshi all right so i'm
looking at um they have a couple of accounts in that tweet that they mention and one of them is
think agents and it says the new internet will be built by agents.
Think as in a dollar sign,
think bigger.
And their pin tweet says,
we're pleased to announce our strategic partnership with magic Eden to launch
the first on chain agents mint date,
April 22nd,
which is a Tuesday, I believe supply 24 hour open mint and oh
my god do you know what this price is the price is oh okay sorry i thought it was in bitcoin and
i was just gonna be like holy fuck but this is still not cheap uh 0.27 eth i thought that was
bitcoin for a sec and i was like oh my god they're fucking giving the taproot wizards a run for their money holy shit uh 278 which again still isn't like cheap i think that's um it's
gotta be like at least a few hundred bucks i'm gonna check uh tokens oh art by art is by basic
whoever that is i don't. They have 266 followers.
And they joined April of 2025, which is sometime in the last 18 days.
And tokens included up to 15,000 THINK tokens via dynamic allocation.
So I haven't been able to listen to these videos yet to see what it's about, but it seems crazy.
They also apparently have teamed up with Oniforce.
Really excited to partner with,
I think it's, I always forget it's Oniforce, right?
AI-driven storytelling and community building
integrated with Think's architecture.
I mean, I understand the words, but whatever the fuck that means, I guess.
It's like, why do I want storytelling done by AI?
I kind of want a person's storytelling versus just AI.
So I'm not sure exactly what they're doing just yet, but it sounds, let's say interesting to start with.
And also 0.27 is, oh my God, I can't type, $431, basically $432 US.
That's ridiculous.
And I also don't like, I don't know if 92 saw it because they probably blocked him by the time that they replied or whatever.
But they replied to you, 92, saying, do it.
See you later.
And then they got, like, a picture of.
Yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, I saw that.
I couldn't reply to it.
Total asshole response.
Like, what an asshole response to be like, okay, bye.
Like, I mean, you know, to be honest,
there's, like, a guy that, like, okay, so, you know that Dehe guy?
And we'll go to you, Ichitoshi, I did see your hand as well afterwards, but, like, there
was this guy, you know, there's the guy who's, like, Dehe, or DJ, it's, like, D-E-G-J-E,
and he's, like, the number number one magic eden kind of maxi
right um so like when ordinals first came out i was still marketing my like ethereum dog tag
collection which was the people that helped mint out the original cyborgs i couldn't have done it
without them absolute fucking legends and i was like hey you know why don't you mint uh dog tag
nft like you know it's blah, blah, blah, pixel art.
It's military violent.
And then he's like, he replies, nah, right?
And like, I could have just been like,
oh, well, see you later.
Bye, right?
But I just like, I was like, okay, cool.
It's not for everyone.
Appreciate it, right?
And then like later on when i released like
the cyborgs like it seemed like he was at least like somewhat interested although he's kind of
like yawn though he fucking ignores anytime i'll be like hey check out the cyborgs he won't say
nothing right uh about them oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, you got to show him the cyborgs. He'll hate you all of a sudden. He must love the penises.
He must love those Bitcoin giant penises.
He must love those big gifs.
He loves those fucking things.
And what do you think of this, Ichitoshi?
What do you think of all this?
I saw you had your hand up there, you gorgeous man.
You gorgeous.
You're right, mate.
No, yeah.
It's a bit
off topic now you know i don't i'm not a big fan of this hand up you think but i didn't want to
wear i didn't want to appear rude or be rude but no it was when he was talking about um the bitch
behavior that people have blocking people i experienced this recently myself i got blocks
off someone today purely for the pfp that i'm wearing me i did nothing wrong i've never spoken to you you know who this is 92.
good thing i got a strong indication he blocked me that dirty little bastard and i've never even
spoken to the guy shameless behavior all because i i mean that is just like what are what are you
okay i hope you're okay you know oh my god what i think it is it's clear racism
it's just clearly got a problem against gooses so i think
i actually saw some gooses today i was out for a walk with the fam
i saw some gooses and uh i was immediately thought about a lot of the goosenals you know
i was like oh you know what i'll trade those on a blockchain later. Maybe that's what I'll do.
But yeah, fuck these motherfuckers blocking people for just disagreeing.
It's almost like a total cult thing, right?
Because then they're basically just surrounding themselves with people that do agree with them.
And then you're in this echo chamber, right?
And I feel like that's a dangerous place to be.
If you just surround yourself with yes men and shit like that like it is nice to have people challenge you um i think i was
also collateral damage uh to be quite honest i think the collateral damage of someone else's
blocking perhaps but it was well worth it though because it was a funny evening tonight wasn't it
yeah yep motherfuckers getting blown oh was it ah shit okay did their name start with a p
it was in that realm of things
did it start with a g
it was in that realm of things
it did
oh my god did it have like a second word
that starts with a t possibly in it
it maybe did it maybe did
oh my god okay yeah
people are a bit salty and they don't like uh the free
and fair movement of the gooses that's all it is dude it's fucking interesting because i did
see something earlier that like okay so that bugsy guy posted a tweet saying oh wow good things and
like you know no no shade on good things whatever right like but uh i just see like oh good things
wiped his fucking account clean of like anything that related to the Bitcoin Eternals.
And and then I started seeing some people saying, oh, my God, he fucking blocked me and Pauly blocked me.
And so I was like, I don't know, man, I don't know what's going on over there.
But it kind of reminds me of like, remember what I was fucking saying the day they were minting and they had only minted like 17% up i was like it's it's gonna be how they react to this that will kind of like show you the character right
you know and it's it's like if you react with like blocking people that criticize you or just
wiping your thing clean and pretending you never had that collection right like like i could easily
just wipe my my fucking feed of anything bitcoin cyborgs 10k related because it didn't mint out yet.
And I could just block everybody's like, hey, you know, what about the cyborgs?
Right. But like, I'm literally not.
That's like a bitch move. Right.
So what do you think of all this, Cynthia?
What do you think of all this?
Oh, I was going to talk a little bit more about that thing we were discussing before.
But yeah, I mean, in terms of all that uh it seems a little
silly and uh to be blocked i mean first off the only thing you do when you block people nowadays
kind of i mean kind of unfortunately in a way um because some people have legitimate reasons for
blocking other people right um most of the you know a lot of this stuff just seems silly like
people you know throwing like little crashout tantrums and stuff.
But when you block someone, you used to actually block them from seeing your content.
So they couldn't interact with you, but they also couldn't see your content.
Now all they can't do is interact with you, but they can still see everything you post.
And the only way to prevent people from seeing what you post
is to go on private account.
And that way, the only people who can see what you post
are people that are following you,
which is kind of silly,
kind of defeats the purpose of blocking someone in a way.
Because let's say I just don't want someone
to see any of my content
because let's say they're taking my content
and repurposing it
or doing stuff with it that I don't like or whatever it is. Someone that I don't want following
me, whatever. You can't do anything about that. Obviously, if someone makes another account,
they can still follow you from that or watch your stuff from that. But at the same time,
not everyone's going to go to that trouble. And it just seems silly to be able to block someone,
but they can still absolutely look at your account. And I don't know if it's still the same now. But it seems like
before, when they first changed this blocking feature, if you went to the account of someone
you had like, so I blocked you, Mr. E, which I would never do. But if I blocked you, and I go
to your account, it tells me, oh, you have blocked Mr. E and I have to actually click a button to look at your content, which is so like backwards to me. Right. It's like, so I have to click a button to make sure I look at your content, even though I blocked you. So that's silly in general. Right. And there's no point like, you know, I didn't block anyone because they didn't mint or buy one of my NFTs or any of my art or anything like that.
Or they didn't retweet my stuff because that's just silly, right?
Everyone can kind of do what they want.
And as well, in terms of this think thing, I started in the background watching on another device,
watching one of the videos of these guys talking about it.
I haven't gone through the whole thing, but it definitely sounds kind of sketchy in that they mention, so one of the things are
like, you own the data. It evolves. It's personal. But in this video of them sitting there talking,
the guy mentions how this agent is going to see everything you look at on the internet and even everything on your
computer. And it's going to have access to, you know, all the different things you do and your
files. And even specifically, like if I heard that correctly, he specifically even mentions like
seed phrases and things like that. And it's like, wow, I don't trust, you know, kind of don't trust this at all. Why, why would I want to have all of my
data, all of my internet history, all of my fucking files on my computer? I mean, I've already had
issues where I'm just like, why would I want to let like, uh, windows scrape all my data and put
it in the cloud, like from my laptop? That's fucking wild. fucking wild um but yeah why would you want because it's an
ordinal cynthia you wouldn't get it okay it's on eath not even oh oh yeah
why would i want everything all of my shit in one central location?
And I allegedly own it, but do you guys have access to it also?
Because that's what it feels like based on the little bit I've looked into this.
It definitely doesn't seem...
Is this professional?
Sorry, Jodan? it definitely doesn't seem is this national secure sorry maybe if you think we do have access to it
maybe we do very interesting very interesting and yeah that's that's not like a fucking great
thing right a great point it's like why would you want this thing and and i mean like yeah it sounds
like it's kind of very invasive with your shit or whatever. But I mean, like, fuck, it just seems like it's total grift.
Whenever someone like whenever somebody comes along and they're like, I've got the next
AI fucking thing and it's on, you know, whether it's Ethereum or ordinals, right?
Because it's like it's like literally like the top AI companies on the planet are not
using the blockchain.
They're using like, you know, AWS servers and shit like that.
And then it's just kind of like, you know know i feel like a lot of times the people that are like using ai and like
no no no shade to anybody that's using ai right but it's almost like even i had made a ai chat
bot in my discord like years ago and uh and the thing is it was like i was not like trying to say that like oh i invented i
revolutionized ai because i was literally standing on the shoulders of giants that came before me
and uh even then it was like just derivative offshoot knowledge uh of these companies right
you know like but like whatever the fucking independent person is coming out with as far
as ai goes is like nothing compared to like,
let's say grok that like, you know, Elon has, or like, you know, chat GPT or things like that.
Cause it's like, these guys actually have like billions of dollars they can put into this shit. Right. Um, and so if anybody's like sitting there saying, what if I told you the next revolution in
AI, you could be bought for just point whatever eth or point whatever
bitcoin it's like it's like dude this is clearly a fucking grift like um yeah what do you think of
all this cynthia uh the other thing that i find interesting and i mean i'm not an expert i'm not
like a cyber security expert or anything like that But one thing I kind of stuck out to
me as I was kind of staring at this post, it says souls isn't just a front end. It's an open
platform built on three core principles. So it's an open platform. And it's supposed to scrap like
scrape all my fucking data from everything I do on my computer and I'm supposed to trust that like in my mind and again not not an expert here guys not an expert by any means
but that sounds like there's a huge potential for issues to happen I believe right if you've
got an open platform and it's scraping everything off my computer including all my seed phrases and
all my passwords and fucking just everything which i don't want anyway like i don't want any
one single thing scraping all my fucking data and my pictures and this and that whatever
like why that just sounds like a problem waiting to happen i mean am i dumb maybe i'm just dumb but you know that sounds sketchy you said so right no no no souls
s they they capitalize s-o-u-l as some acronym i don't know what that is because this is the
think platform um so i don't know what they're talking about because i haven't scrolled i haven't
scrolled and like looked into it super hard but but that's what they say. And the other thing, what was the other thing that was sketchy?
A canvas feature that supports docs, visuals, memory, and more.
It's built for whatever you want to create.
Like, what does that even mean?
Like, it's built for anything I want to create.
How?
How did you guys do that?
Like, you can just? It just does everything
and anything ever. It's like the
super magnificent bot.
Yeah, exactly.
The other thing that I noticed too
is they have
97,000 followers on this
account, the Think Agents, which has a bunch
of people in common.
There's 250 people that I
follow who also follow this. Their pinned tweet that was posted on April 3rd, so more than two
weeks ago, has 71,000 views, but only 372 likes, which is a a pretty big, like that's a, you know, a pretty big difference in views
versus likes and that kind of thing. I mean, I don't, again, I, you know, a lot of people do
scroll by things and not like it, but that's still, still a pretty big gap right there. Right.
And I don't know. So I don't know what this is exactly it definitely doesn't sound
the best uh in terms of a lot of things and um yeah just uh and also obviously it looks bad for
them to have like immediately block 92 for saying one thing like especially blocking 92 like the fuck yeah that's so sketchy if you're
blocking 92 you're so fucking out of touch in like just like life in general right like seriously i
mean i've done the opposite of blocking 92 i have them chained up under my desk uh that's pretty
much the opposite you've locked up you've. Yeah. There's a big difference between block and lock.
Exactly, right?
We're not blocking out here.
We're locking out here.
I wanted to say one thing,
and I don't know how many of y'all can relate to this or whatever,
but it just seems,
it seems similar, uh, like them creating this kind of hollow product with kind of vague,
vague pointing to general areas of things, not really succinctly describing stuff.
Uh, it reminds me of like the Iico craze of 2017 with like white papers
galore of all like internet of things type shit people are just like backpacking off of this type
of like relative relatively new idea to essentially just fucking score a ton of money seems similar
dude that's actually such a fucking good point and uh yeah it's just
like these motherfuckers out here you know they're they're out here 92 is locked up under the desk
and uh they're they're promising bullshit there's promising the sun the moon and the
fucking stars it's like that 2017 ICO craze and it's just like whatever they'll say to make a sale right and and you
know unfortunately there's a lot of new people that come in and I think I used to fall for some
of that shit before I'd be like wow this is the next fucking thing but I really didn't realize
it was just marketing mumbo jumbo and shit like that right and so it's like I mean like I could
literally easily be like you know come out here be, the cyborgs are the next fucking thing.
They're the greatest fucking thing.
But, like, I'm literally, like, too, I don't know.
Like, I just, I just, I don't know.
I can't bullshit somebody like that.
You know what I mean?
I'm like, literally, like, it's just art.
It's art.
But sometimes I hook you up with whitelist and shit.
Because I'm trying to do the, you know.
Bitcoin giant penis is the next fucking thing
well you know a bitcoin drive penis is the next thing the next thing that's going in my ass that
is you know which is let's fucking go even uh even earlier well yeah i mean not not really early
because like paulie and good things Things and Leo were in OSD.
Kind of in and out, I guess, for a couple hours, Polly especially.
But I think at one point, one of them said, I can't remember if it was Good Things or Polly,
but one of them said like, oh, you know, we've been here for a long time and like Ordinals needs this
and like we need a leader in this space or whatever and uh
like this and that has to be done and i was just thinking like what i said the other day i was like
actually nothing needs to be done like it just it just is and like you're trying like everything
that you're essentially saying is like it's a toshi you saw that you saw the comment that i wrote i thought you were going to say bitcoin giant penis is going to be the leader in the space well dude that's obviously dead clear
and if it is going to be anybody it's going to be you know who's going to be the leader in the space
right and it's going to come out of left field we're not going to be prepared for it it's going
to be the wasp fest station from code wasp, right? The legends in the audience there.
You know, they created this incredible, just incredible fucking honorary.
Holy shit.
Did we pin that thing to the top?
Because my God.
Oh, yeah.
It's one, two, three, four, five, six back.
Holy shit.
Look up at the top.
Go six back. I believe they're using Ordinal Genesis, right?
This art is fucking
so good.
You need to take that out, Night 2. It's fucking awesome.
But that space, the Night 2
I tried tagging you, I tried messaging
you earlier, Mr. E, like a couple of hours
before this started, when it first started kicking off
because it was
by far one of the funniest
Ordinal support desks there's been
for, I don't even know how long it was fucking insane,
but I think it's dialed down now anyway.
So no one go away.
You won't miss anything.
All the drama was hours ago,
but it was,
it was fucking hysterical.
The quote that I wanted to just drop that,
like that,
that,
that whole point of view that I was trying to describe was the quote is a protocol doesn't care about
your losses gains or your bags and that's the end of it that's so fucking true right you know
um say that again for the people in the back you know say that a protocol does not care about your
profits your losses or your bags a protocol does not not care. Dude, that's so interesting.
And that kind of ties, you know, that kind of actually fucking ties into, like, the first
thing I mentioned.
There wasn't as many people in the space at the beginning there.
But, dude, it was like, did you see this fucking thing?
I think it was, like, the first thing I pinned to it everywhere.
This dude, he had a taproot wizard and two puppets.
And he sent them.
He said he was tired.
He had a newborn or something,
but he had a bunch of just different excuses.
And,
he sent a bunch of Bitcoin to Binance and,
and I guess he sent his wizard.
He sent,
two of his puppets to Binance.
Right.
And then he was like,
Hey,
can I get them back?
But,
and then he's like,
they're like,
we can't get them back. Uh, they're gone're gone he's like how can they be gone though because now the one is listed on magic
eden right and so uh no well that might end up being a withdrawal for somebody else that's it
right because i i used to wonder like because i was thinking like there's an address right when
you know you know how like they give you your address you could send your bitcoin to
this address i thought they made like a kind of personal wallet for each and every single person
and so like whatever you put in there stayed in that wallet but i think it must be more like a
communal thing a communal sort of wallet because like uh apparently i think it must be kind of
like a first in first out sort of thing where so like if you send your sats in and then somebody withdraws their sats,
it will pull from like maybe the first UTXO or the last UTXO that went in or
whatever the fuck.
And I know a lot of people were using that.
I think like that Mac guy, right.
Was for example,
he would send like one Bitcoin to binance and then he would pull one
bitcoin back out and it would be different sats that he would get back and then he would just do
that all fucking day long uh and he would eventually he'd be hunting for rare sats right
the rarer sats rarer far rarer you missed the rarer you said like when the guy who like mistakenly
sent his uh wizard away because he'd had a newborn child that the energy that you said like when the guy who like mistakenly sent his uh wizard away because he'd had a newborn
child that the energy that you said that with me it was so fucking funny you went
some frivolous excuse that he had for sending his ordinals away like having a fucking baby or
something how dare he that was fucking funny the question i have is why was it so urgent to send that stuff right then?
If you're tired, you're dealing with a baby, and you have all this stuff going on where you can't concentrate on what you're doing, whatever that may be.
Why was it so urgent to transfer these assets in that moment that you couldn't even bother to double-check that you're doing it correctly.
And we talked about this towards the beginning of the show as well.
But, you know, and Mystery and I have talked about this separately as well a few times,
where it's like, anytime I'm transferring anything, whether it's to myself or to somebody else,
even if it's nothing expensive, I usually check check it two three times before I actually hit send
I'll like copy and paste and then I'll look at the end in the beginning I'll go back and check
that I make sure I copied it correctly and pasted it correctly and didn't hit backspace or anything
dumb like that like even if it's not a lot right um but I'd rather not lose anything and I'd rather
especially you know if you're sending anything out you just don't want to lose anything or do it wrong. So you check a few times.
And especially when it's something that's, you know, of a higher value or whatever, you really
want to make sure you're doing it correctly. So I don't know why it was just so urgent that you're
just going to rush through and be like, oh, my God, I got to move this to another wallet. But
you're not even going to especially to a central like, Oh my God, I got to move this to another wallet, but you're not even going to, especially to a central, like, you know,
to a central exchange type of thing. But why wouldn't you be, uh, like what happened? What
happened? Why was it so urgent? That's all. Uh, that's exactly it. Like, that's such a good
fucking point. And then it kind of like, you know, it also kind of like reminded me, we kind
of mentioned it earlier there, but like, you know, um, know um like you know i had that taproot wizard
whitelist i couldn't change the the the address that was already registered for it so it was
basically like i i wanted some cyborg holder to get it so i gave it you know i i was like first
person who dms me who has the money and wants it like gets it and this one legend who had been
trying to win all these fucking uh whitelistaways, but he just wasn't winning them.
He actually came in and was first, right?
And so I was so happy that he got it.
But it took a lot of trust on his part, right?
Like, he had to send me .2 Bitcoin, which is, like, more fucking Bitcoin than I've, like, ever had in my life.
So, like, I mean, you know, it would be so easy for me to run off with that.
I custodied it.
I minted it for him.
And then I, uh, I then had to send it back to him.
Right.
And now the thing is when I was sending that back, like, holy shit, like that was like
the most stressful, like kind of stressful thing.
Cause I was like, dude, this is like, like maybe 20,000 us or whatever the fuck.
Like, I mean, just under that because Bitcoin is not a hundred grand, but like point two,
there's a shitload of money. Right. i i was that was your favorite mempool transaction
you're saying that was my favorite mempool transaction i gotta say because it was like
this trust exercise right it was kind of like can we trust mr e right uh what's he gonna do
like people have rugged people for far less than like 0.2 Bitcoin. Right. And, uh, I saw, I was like, okay, I literally,
and usually I just checked the first four or five, whatever, uh,
letters in the address, the last four or five, like good enough.
Bang on this time. I like triple check every fucking thing.
And then even when I copied it into my wallet for the send transaction,
I double checked again. I was like, okay, same, same
wallet. Right. Um, and then, so like, and then here's this guy just like sending, you
know, willy nilly a dog for two puppets, a wizard. Like, it's just kind of, it's just
like blows my mind. Uh, you know, I mean like having a child, that's no excuse. I'm just
joking. Not that heartless, but like, you know, I mean, it having a child, that's no excuse. I'm just joking.
Not that heartless, but like, you know, I mean, it's just like, it's just like recognizing that like, oh, I have a child.
I'm tired.
Maybe I'm not making the best, like, you know, in the best position to make these decisions.
Maybe like wait until you've had some rest before you send that fucking shit to Binance.
Right.
And so, yeah, so that that's basically it's just like be very careful what
you're sending where you're sending maybe maybe have you know one of those wallets like a xverse
or something like that even though yon ignores the fucking cyborgs whatever whatever uh just use the
xverse wallet it has a separate wallet for the ordinals it has you know address it has the
separate address for the bitcoin um and
then that way you know if you're sending bitcoin from that thing you're not sending an ordinal
right uh so what do you think what do you think of all this duke welcome to the stage how are you
doing this uh evening or morning for you my friend hi cynthia and hi mr e and everyone on the stage and on the audience. I'm doing fine.
I have a clue kind of what you're talking about, but I'm a little bit out.
So I'm sorry if I just cut in like in the conversation.
But what I do usually when, if I want to cash out, I just send my assets straight to my like a crypto card and I go have the other one.
What the fuck is it called?
The biggest exchange in US.
Oh, Coinbase.
Yeah, Coinbase.
Yeah, I still have it.
But the Coinbase has, because it's linked to my bank account,
it makes every transaction. It says crypto and it's, there's like, it
tax, tax reasons. There's like a Finnish taxes. If you want to pay your taxes to some other country, it's not possible.
So, yeah.
That's very interesting.
That's very interesting.
And it's also kind of like, you know, I mean, so that's kind of like another example, right?
Because, like, let's say you have your Bitcoin, your ordinals on, you know, in your own wallet, right?
You hold them in your own wallet.
And then you're like, I want to cash this shit out, right? I need to pay some bills or your own wallet, right? You hold them in your own wallet. And then you're like,
I want to cash this shit out. Right. I need to pay some bills or something like that. Right.
So then you send it to Coinbase. Right. Um, so it's just like in that situation, right. You want
to be like, careful, you're not sending a ordinal. Right. And so it's kind of like easier to avoid
that situation. If let's say you have like, let's say one of those wallets that has two addresses possibly like a magic eden wallet or uh xverse wallet right um i kind of wonder if the risk is
more higher if you have like one of the wallets it just has one address like for example a unisat
wallet right i wonder if that's maybe the kind of wallet that was used in that situation because
like a unisat wallet has one address that receives both ordinals and Bitcoin.
It depends which wallet it is, mate.
You can have a SegWit or a Taproot,
but when you first set up Unisat wallets in the year one,
sometimes it's set up as a SegWit wallet.
So some people were accidentally transferring stuff or spending it as fees,
but it's more so the wallet type that you are.
Oh, that's very interesting yeah
that's right the seguit and the so yeah that's another great fucking point right and i know even
now experts if you import a wallet from somewhere else you got to kind of set it up like uh choose
seguit or or whatever taproot whatever the fuck right and um and so that's a very good fucking
point right and i think it'd be kind of cool to get some like experts to be like to be able to
like give people a little more info on that because like, uh, yeah, that would just like suck. Cause I do know as well, like I remember a while back Liz, right. You know, like Liz, uh, in, in like the, you know, puppet Liz or whatever accidentally sent a, an opium, I think as spent it as fees one time. Right.
opium i think as spent it as fees one time right and yeah yeah yeah i remember that that was crazy
and and uh and i was just like so every once in a while she'll be like you know she'll post
something like never forget you know once a puppet always a puppet and then she'll post her
puppet but like uh yeah so like i mean it could happen to the best of us and um so yeah you gotta
be so fucking careful right you gotta be so be so careful. And I'm also,
I'm always like even paranoid. Like, you know,
if I have like a little bit of a Bitcoin in my wallet,
I'm always kind of paranoid about sending that little bit of Bitcoin because,
um, you know, just in case it,
it dips into the ordinal sats to pay the fees, right? So, like, I mean, man.
Yeah, so it's always...
But, like, some wallets will usually say you have this is available to spend.
But I'd really like to get some experts, you know,
maybe on here sometime or something like that.
On experts, by the way, you can make...
If you have a letter and you want to play it safe, you can set up it like you have the phrase, you have the other word comes in, like the 25th word. more valuable ordinals that way because that's like it gave the like another security layer
so I cannot send my ordinals accidentally to anywhere so every time I log in I put my letter in and I have a separate pin code to log in.
And yeah, at least it works with the Xverse wallet.
So yeah, and I haven't had a like a problem with that way.
a problem with that way.
But yeah, that's one.
I'm not sure does Magic Eden Wallet support that?
Maybe, but Xverse supports it
and Ledger has like these articles about it
and it's pretty easy to set up.
Oh, that's very interesting that that 25th uh phrase hey that's very fucking interesting actually um yeah because and it's kind of
crazy how that all works right and and uh and it's also very interesting also like if you pull a
wallet over from like let's say experts or something which has two uh
addresses or whatever right and uh you pull it over to unisat it's like you can choose i think
which one you want to pull over as well right and so it's kind of like do you want to pull the
ordinals address do you want to pull the bitcoin address what do you think of this itch toshi
what do you think of all this well um yeah sorry you can uh i've always done as the best rule of thumb to like your ordinal's
wallet to load that one into like unisac because it's a single wallet a single wallet and like
hero wallet to x first but you can also use something called your whiff key now if you ever
see that don't ever share that with anyone because it's the same as like your seed phrase but
you don't you can't import a wallet basically anyone because it's the same as your seed phrase. But you can import a wallet, basically,
without having to type in the whole seed phrase
because it's a pain in the ass.
If you can get that with key, it's just a single key,
and you can load your wallet that way.
But you have to be really careful with it, obviously,
because it overrides your seed phrase.
Oh, shit.
That's fucking interesting.
Yeah, and you've got to be careful.
And also, I remember when I set up my Node wallet, for example,
it's like you can enter a password. this is kind of what duke was talking about
but you can enter like a password directly in along with your seed phrase but um it uh you know
otherwise if you leave a default then like the way to recover it is just with your seed phrase right
and uh so i don't think most wallets like like your password to log into the wallet i
don't think that's ever really truly connected to your wallet because if you just pull in your
seed phrase to another wallet they could never ask oh what's your password right you know for
for that one or whatever right so you can kind of just set up the letter normally, and when you have set that up, you go to the,ger and you like, I don't remember, do you do it from the ledger live?
But there is a setting that you want to use the pass phrase and that then sets up the bullets, the hardware
bullets so that it uses the 25th key or the sorry the word and a separate pin code.
That is, so you have basically like a two different wallets that the other wallet is just like a hidden wallet.
And you can keep your ordinals on that hidden wallet.
Oh, that's very cool.
That's like a high level, how I kind of understand it.
level uh how i kind of understand it but um yeah maybe some experts can uh with the better english
can uh explain that uh yeah fuck i think i would love to get like some oh yeah i think i'm gonna
try to do that maybe like one of the like i don't know maybe soon here is like set up to get some
experts on here that can like show us maybe we'll even get fucking yawn in here you know and then
we'll shove those goddamn bitcoin cyborgs down up his ass basically is what it is i was gonna say down
his throat but up his ass maybe both and we'll meet him in the middle there uh but you know i
just want to say shout out to the absolute legends in the audience we got these nuts we got lamby has
joined us as well but you know what you know what though tomorrow i think i'm gonna do a cool uncle
thing right i'm gonna help set up a little easter egg hunt for my nieces and so we might shut down the space here a little bit uh
well i mean like not to say this early right but i mean i would have stayed up all fucking night
with each and every single one of you goddamn legends but uh well maybe let's go around the
room here real quick right shout out by the way to code was who made that fucking incredible
wassy cyborg it's the coolest fucking thing i've seen
holy shit you're gonna want to put them on notifications you're gonna want to mint the
fuck out of that i think it's coming out on ordinal genesis with the legends that are over
there hedrin for example and uh well what do you think of all this itchitoshi what do you think of
all this as always thanks for having us mate it's been uh fun chilling with you guys and 92
simphia mystery jordead duke it's been a been a been a laugh and uh i've seen you down there as
well uh where are you called wassey i gave you a follow before i like that uh i really like that
artwork that you did uh mystery it was really cool and uh childish lambino i followed you the
other day after we were chatting i'm gonna get that follow back one day one of these days she's gonna follow you back but yeah no good chatting with you
it was a good night so yeah have a good easter everyone oh man i appreciate you so much man i
love you absolute legend and you know that lamby follow us once you get that thing it's like
everything in your life falls into place uh you find inner peace same with the code wasp follow
back as well it's just like the best um
oh come on mate you've got to get them all you've got to get them back i'll i will get it one day
i'll do something glorious and she'll be like you know what i'm gonna give this uh weird goose guy
a follow back and i'm like i finally made it man because uh well you know she's she's she once told
me that she loves a good uk accent right um right? Some people are saying I'm making this up right now,
but who's going to prove me wrong?
So yeah, she'll give you that follow-back one of these days, mate.
I love saying mate.
It feels so good.
And Duke, how are you doing this evening?
How are you doing this morning for you as well?
Any final words before we shut her down shut her down
yeah i mean that's what i barked fuck yes you absolutely legend meant the cyborgs you know we
put so much love we put so much cum lube into that fucking cyborgs procedure process to make
them so uh means the world to me when you buy the cyborgs when you mint the bitcoin cyborgs 10k at
the link in my bio the inscribe now link in my bio.
And then I hook you up with whitelist when you join the Discord and put your address in the fucking whitelist pool.
So each and every single one of you absolute legends.
What do you think of this 92?
Thank you, Duke.
Appreciate you.
What do you think of this 92?
Question everything.
Trust nothing.
Verify. don't trust and be nice to each other in pp
i especially loved when you said pp poopoo pp poopoo pp poopoo it was very powerful
so thank you for that oh meant so much to me when you said that and uh
always no never block 92 that's the number one thing if anybody blocks
them blocks 92 fuck them uh so yeah fucking shout out to the 92 absolutely appreciate you coming
out here joe dead any final thoughts before we head around out there down that old dusty trail
the old dusty trail and shout out to barbara who's just joined us as well uh fuck we're
shutting down the space but you know what we got we're gonna hear hear from the joe dad that legend
with the bitcoin giant penises what a fucking legend oh powerfully said as always joe you know
his massive bitcoin giant penis has crushed him right he's crushed he's under the weight his phone
has fallen to the side he's like reaching out out his final breaths he's saying ah help me but he can't reach his phone it speaks for it speaks for
him you know it speaks for him um you can't even beat that bitcoin giant penis energy it just has
carries a weight of its own so to speak you, when you get one of those Bitcoin giant penises in your
Bitcoin ordinal's wallet,
you feel the girth. You feel
that pulse, that
thrust power like
none other. And what do you think of all
this, Cynthia? What do you think of all this?
You absolute fucking legend.
You absolute fucking legend, Mystery.
As always,
an amazing night here in the Mystery Zone, episode 219.
We've been here for just over three hours,
and it's just been a fantastic time hanging out with all you legends.
As always, we just keep going on, and there's always so much to talk about.
I have no fucking clue how anyone who does an Ordinals Bitcoin show
can really think that once a week or even twice a week is enough to cover what's going on in the space and be able to have full discussions.
Because even here, when we're here every night, literally every single night, Monday to Sunday, no days off whatsoever, no holidays, no nothing.
And we usually are here for two to three hours on average every night. We still
have more to say. We still have more to talk about. And we just can't even finish.
It's just never ending. It's never ending. We could be here all night long. But of course,
you know, life calls. And that's important. We need to spend time with family. We need to get
sleep. We need to eat food, all these different things. But as always, the absolute best time here.
I look forward to it.
I always feel better as we go through the show.
And by the end of the show, even if I wasn't feeling bad at the start, I always end up
feeling better.
It's just like a non it's a non question, really.
It always happens every single time.
So appreciate all of the absolute beautiful vibes and the handsome vibes that everyone gives.
Handsome of those beautiful vibes over here.
Because I just love them.
Just handsome over.
Handsome of those vibes over.
Oh my god.
But as always, yeah.
Do what Duke said said mint those absolutely amazing
bitcoin cyborgs we fucking love those bitcoin cyborgs get itchitoshi's little wiggles just
he's such a legend love you itchitoshi get those bitcoin giant penises from joe dead uh he can't
say anything because he is just absolutely way dead by one of those uh check out emile's art
he's down in the audience and i don't mean to interrupt you but i'm gonna do just to say make
sure you buy some of your glorious art before you move on to supporting other people cynthia is one
of the most talented artists you'll find on ethereum and i can safely say that because i
literally wouldn't buy anything on ethereum unless it was from mr e's glorious dog tag nfts or
cynthia so i'll make sure you get some of her stuff too oh that means so much that means so
much because you're such a fucking awesome guy an awesome legend uh so always appreciate i always
love when you're able to come and join us here in the mystery zone or any other place where we get
to hang out absolutely love you it's toshi and uh make sure you check
out you know what lamby's art she is an absolutely fucking amazing artist check out emile's art uh
they're both down in the audience get some of that wishy-washy uh rune we love that little wishy-washy
machine he washed mr e and i uh and a couple weeks back and it felt so good it felt so squeaky clean it was great um so make
sure you check out everyone down in the audience check out everyone up here on stage 92 has has
done a lot of cool stuff uh like pup talica which i personally like way better than metallica quite
frankly uh just so much better metallica is okay but, but Poptallica, hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah,
brother. Let's fucking go.
Yeah, shout out to everyone who comes
and joins us. We couldn't do this without you guys.
Absolutely love you. Shout out to WasiGlow
for just being an absolute fucking legend as well.
We love that WasiGlow.
He's just amazing. And yeah,
looking forward to tomorrow. Thank you
to everyone. Much love to you all.
And make sure you support the real ones, support the artists, the founders, the people who are nice and kind and helpful, the people you just like as people.
Support those people because that's how we all win.
And that's how that's how the cream rises to the top.
You know, it raises all ships on that rising cream. And that's how the cream rises to the top, you know?
It raises all ships on that rising cream.
We love that rising cream, right?
That beautiful rising cream.
It's so beautifully said.
So incredibly powerfully said.
And so bullishly said, to be honest.
And, well, you know what?
It's nights like these that just reinforce how much i fucking love this
goddamn community each and every single one of you we could not do this without you you're like me
you couldn't do this without me yes you uh i'm pointed to each and every single one of you
because that's just what this is all about out here and uh you know support the artists support
the memers support the dreamers support the schemers, support the dreamers, support the schemers, right?
Because that's how we all win.
That rising tide is raising that cream.
We love that cream.
You know, hell, I'm always shooting my load out into that sea of cream, helping it rise. And, well, in the best way.
So, you know, I got to say, support Cynthia's art, right?
She's got the Restless Path.
She's got the blockchain sprinkles.
0.03 ETH for those sprinkles..11 eth for the restless path support it's your toe she's
little wiggles you gotta love it wiggle wiggle baby support 92 wiggle wiggle baby wiggle wiggle
with it uh we got 92 with the pup talica support emile's incredible art support
lamby's incredible art that's childish Lambino out there as well, right,
in the audience.
Support the Code Wasp.
I'm very excited for this upcoming Mint.
It's going to break the blockchain in the best way.
And, well, with that being said,
also get a Bitcoin Cyborg because, you know,
it always makes me hard.
It's like it gives me morning wood even at night
you know uh even in the middle of the day right uh whenever somebody mints one of those so uh you
know absolutely love each and every single one of you for supporting us for showing up uh vibing
thriving striving and driving to be the best of the best and with that being said this has been
another incredible episode of the mystery Zone. Episode 219.
219 nights in a row we've been up to whatever the fuck it is we do,
whether it's the blockchain, discussion of culture, memes, right?
Art, people, other things, right?
And, well, we couldn't do this without you.
And if you're not bullish on yourself, you don't have to be, right?
All you have to do is believe in me, believe in Cynthia, believe in Nijitoshi, believe in Duke, believe in 92, and believe in Joe Dead, believing in you.
And my God, there's nothing you cannot achieve.
So whether it's 5 o'clock somewhere, 4.20 somewhere, morning, evening, or night, I want you to have the best time.
And with that being said,
peace out and much love,
motherfuckers.
Love you guys.
Love you guys.
