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The Rabbit Hole community space | Ghostz on $APE update
Recorded: July 11, 2025 Duration: 0:58:00Space Recording
Short Summary
Crypto enthusiasts are buzzing with excitement as discussions unfold around upcoming token launches, the implications of Coinbase's wallet changes, and Bitcoin's recent surge to an all-time high, signaling a vibrant and evolving market landscape.
Full Transcription
Thank you. What's up there, Mr. E?
You can be so kind to share it to the rabbit hole,
because for some reason I can't find it on the main account right now. Thank you. you you you
you guys be so kind to do the sharing and all that stuff i'm waiting for
oh yeah let me let me
send co-hosthost my brother over there. Thank you. Okay.
Okay.
Where's everybody hiding at oh there's Vita.
Get up here, girl. you
okay
there we go i got two people who's co-host now Thank you. you DJ how you doing brother Oh I'm hanging in here
Hanging in here
And uh
I guess I won't be
I won't be shy like everybody else
Okay I'm here I was tagging and sharing tagging and sharing and sharing and tagging yeah and
copying the link and sending it out you know all the above how y'all doing doing good it must be
nice to have friends you can tag and share oh i, I never said I had friends. I just tagged people, you know?
Sometimes you just gotta
kind of like drag them in by the ear.
Oh, there it is.
What up, what up, what up?
Howdy, howdy, howdy.
Howdy, man.
How'd you doing how y'all doing amazing always have to be amazing you gotta keep that mindset
you're right you're right um that mindset usually doesn't kick in until I've had three cups of coffee, but you're right.
I saw your good morning post yesterday or today. You didn't get up like till 2 p.m. or something. Well, Eastern time, 2 p.m.
I don't generally send, I don't send my good morning until like after.
I've actually been up since like 8.30 this morning Pacific.
But my son has, you know, online stuff to do.
So it's not until things start settling down that I'm like, okay,
let me post on X and stuff.
That's awesome.
How's everybody doing?
Deegan, Bearcat, Heat,
Runner Rabbit, Let's Go,
BRFlox, Kang,
Okie?
Well, I'm doing wonderful.
And Wiz,
buddy, I didn't mean to leave you out.
You know I'm thinking
about you all the time.
That's all good. I'm just hosting. I'm actually not here.
I'm depending on my co-hosts to do their jobs. You guys are in my ear,
but I can't talk after a few minutes. Oh, gotcha. Okay. So basically it's
up to me because a ghetto message that
he can't talk right now either. So we're good. We're good. We got this.
Can you do another co-host?
Put me up here. I don't care.
They should
let you have like three or four co-hosts.
It's kind of dumb that they only allow to.
So how's everybody's Thursday?
Treating them?
It's been one of those Thursdays that feels like a Friday,
but then it has its Monday moments.
I don't know if y'all would agree with me.
That's funny, though, because I heard someone else saying earlier
it felt like a Monday.
I believe that was Mr. Wiz over there.
Mr. Wiz over there.
Probably, yeah.
Yeah, I think, I don't know why, but when the summer comes and those high temperatures,
you know, I think of like, you know, high temperatures, things melt.
And I feel like the days melt together because I'm constantly like, wait, what day is it?
What day is today?
The only reason I know today is Thursday
is because I'm flying out Friday.
That's the only reason I know
what day of the week it is today.
That must be a nice life.
No, it's not.
Waking up at 8.30 in the morning, don't know what day of the week it is.
Don't have a care in the world.
Yeah, that sounds pretty badass to me.
I don't know.
Sounds like my 75-year-old parents are retiring.
No, okay, so it's badass-y.
It's really cool until it's not.
Like, I really enjoyed, you know, working from home, being at home for, like, the first six months.
And then I feel like I have cabin fever.
Like, I want to get out of the house.
But then as soon as I'm out of the house, I'm like, ugh, I can't stand people.
I want to go home.
It really does something to you.
No, I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
See?
And not to mention, so King works.
You guys know he's on the road all the time.
And even he has a hard time remembering what day of the week it is
So, okay to be fair
I work in two different days, you know
Sometimes i'm not the only thing that I do know is where i'm at
Everybody asks me like like, hey, is this, when are you going home?
I'm like, oh, I go home tomorrow.
Oh, no.
No, I mean today.
Like, it's already past midnight, so it's already my day to go home.
Yeah.
Like, and then I tell people good morning all the time, and it's like, you know, 2 o'clock in the afternoon.
Oh, there's jobs like trucking and there's a few others where, you know, it's like 10, 14 days off and like 7 days on.
Or 14 days on and 7 days off.
I don't know how you keep track of what day of the week it is.
Oh, so D-Gen has Kings back not knowing the day of the week.
But for me, I have the life of a 75-year-old.
I mean, you do. You get to hang out and be a grandma all day.
But my company, we have a set schedule, so I'm Monday through Friday.
Oh, okay.
Luckily.
No, but you know those people that have those jobs that are like 10, 14 days on and 7 off.
Yeah, that was the first job I had. I think I was only home...
A weekend every other month? Yeah, something like that. Something ridiculous.
Something ridiculous.
Yeah.
Sometimes he would only get home one day every other month.
And that day was only because he happened to be delivering in our area.
So that's how that went.
But real quick, because more people are popping in the room.
If you haven't already, please share out the space.
Click that purple button and tag one or two friends, acquaintances, faces, whatever.
Because we have some news to drop, maybe some updates, or just to talk about the ghosts in general.
Wiz, our host, is busy, so he might not be too chatty.
Our co-host, Ghetto, I believe is at work, so he's unable to talk. So it's going to be me, D-Gen not be too chatty. Our co-host Ghetto, I believe, is at work.
So he's unable to talk. So it's going to be
me, D-Gen, Charles, and King.
And anybody else?
Well, Wiz is listening.
He just can't say anything, so it'd be a nice time
to talk about him.
Oh, yeah, it is a nice time to talk about
him, huh?
You know that, man.
I just think of the Seinfeld that's the best let me tell you
something about you that you don't know i'll tell you what whiz eats chinese food like three times
a week and it drives me nuts um but yeah um so i don't know who all has heard from Didi. I have been staying in touch every now and then. I'm trying to abide by the doctor's rules. He's resting, but he's hanging in there, getting as much rest as possible.
To my knowledge, the date for the Mint still has not been announced.
It's still to be determined.
And we're still here and hopping, y'all.
Hell yeah, let's go. Hop, hop, hop.
Hoppity hop.
And I'll tell you what, Coinbase had me freaking out with their whole thing of,
oh, our Web3 wallet. So all your assets are going to be gone. I was over here panicked because you
have to, you know, do the KYC and all that stuff in order to transfer out your stuff if you haven't
done so already, which I didn't. So I go through the process. I go to transfer my stuff
out. It's like, no, you have to wait until we approve your KYC. Then you can transfer your
stuff out. Finally, it gets approved. I'm trying to like go, okay, how much money am I going to need
to transfer all this out? Come to find out the Web3 wallet that they're shutting down is through the Coinbase app, not their Coinbase wallet app.
So my stuff is safe all along.
Yeah.
I was going to mention that so you didn't scare too many people.
Well, you didn't mention it quick enough because I was freaking out.
I was like, no, my rabbits, my bozo, all
my assets.
But it's safe. We're good.
Well, I mean,
it does provide you an opportunity
to get a
hardware wallet and keep
that stuff offline safe and
secure. True.
She's had one for like
two years. Yeah i i got one when did i get it in 2022
and i used it a little bit and then i just got i got really like annoyed with it because, you know, as far as tokens go, it only recognizes what's already installed in the wallet itself.
So I'm like, this is useless to me because I hold stuff.
What one did you get?
I don't know how to pronounce it, but I say the Elipal.
Okay.
Yeah.
You can add tokens to Elipal oh yeah okay because i'll tell you
it's been a dead weight for at least it or yeah it's just been sitting there
and don't ask me where the the keys are to it because I wrote them down somewhere and don't remember. No, I mean, Ellie Pals are really nice because they don't, it's all QR, QR code never hooks
up to the internet.
The only downfall is they're a pain in the butt to update.
Yeah, that's the thing that kind of deterred me from continuing to use it was the fact that, because I did figure out how to add a token.
It wasn't that hard, but it was obnoxious to me, to say the least.
It was once the update started coming, that's when I was just like, I'm over this.
Yeah, so that's when I was just kind of like, screw it.
I think I hold, I think I still have shib on there I don't know I haven't turned it on in a long time no yeah I have hardware
wallets like that's where I don't even know know what's on them and everyone you know once or twice
a year I look at them and it's a pleasant little surprise. Or a pleasant little disappointment.
However you want to look at it.
Yeah.
Sorry, I was just looking at what was pinned to the top.
Motherfucker, dude.
What happened?
What the fuck?
You okay, Charles?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
My hot mic?
Sorry.
I was like, I think he's my passenger right now.
Well, maybe he's just a road rager like all of us, you know?
Oh, he dropped down the listener.
Sorry, Charles.
But, yeah, if anybody wants to grab the mic and come on up, feel free to do so.
It's more of a kind of a laid-back community space tonight.
We have a kind of a laid-back community space tonight.
As I said earlier, the mint date hasn't been determined quite yet.
We're just focused on our founder's health.
And right now, I think mostly everybody's just curious on what had Charles, oh, what the effing.
So, Charles, you back?
Yeah, I'm back.
Sorry for that
outburst of ignorance.
I didn't know I was hot, Mike.
No, you're good.
Well, of everything that you could have
said, you were safe in what you said.
Yeah.
Nothing can be held against you.
my phone's just been bugging out i need to get a new one
i got like an iphone 10 i need to get you know on board and get a 16
blah blah blah but uh yeah that's what i might do here next week or two what's up everybody hey br flex how you doing okay yeah not much just uh listening to y'all
and uh drawing on my ipad and shaking my fist at things.
Are you,
yeah,
are you coming out with an NFT collection?
I'm just drawing my hand.
gotcha.
you know,
it's like,
I don't know.
A lot of people struggle with drawing hands and I am one of those people.
So every once in a while, I try to humble myself and to draw the hand again.
So that's what I'm doing right now.
I'm doing it on my iPad, so it's easy to erase or cover up if there's a mistake.
So just listening to y'all just wanted to hear some updates on diddy and things like that
and make sure everything's going good and seeing what you're all doing and uh let you know it's
hot here in missouri um st louis it's it's hot and humid It was close to 100 today. So not a lot of fun outside.
Yeah, that doesn't sound like fun.
But yeah, like I said, Diddy's...
Diddy. Sorry, I didn't say it in that way.
Diddy is just getting his rest.
And he's, you know, he's listening to doctor's orders.
We're making sure he listens to doctor's orders.
Good.
But, yeah, we feel you.
We feel you on the heat.
I go sit outside for, like, maybe 10, 15 minutes while my dog is out.
And then I'm like, all right, let's get back in.
It's a little much.
Yeah. And then I'm like, all right, let's get back in. It's a little much. Yeah, it's like this July and August in Missouri is, you know, it feels like New Orleans, you know,
or the deep south where it's really humid.
And it's just, it's like breathing oatmeal.
And your electric bill goes crazy because of the air conditioning.
So anyways, it just is what it is.
And it's just annoying.
And so there's that.
Yeah.
But California, living in Southern California, don't you have like the Santa Ana winds and things like that?
Isn't that like a nice and cool-ish?
Well, the Santa Ana winds usually start up closer to the fall.
So, you know, if we're lucky, we get a nice breeze every now and then.
But for the most part, it's just hot.
Unless you're under the shade, the sun will be beating down on you you get a tan sunburn
all that good stuff what I'm not looking forward to though is we're heading out of state this
weekend and generally where we're heading you think of a cool kind of you think of a cooler
summer because we're heading up north and apparently it's going to be in the high 90s.
So I'm just like, oh, man.
So it's going to be nice out.
That's what you're saying.
It's going to be.
I've been in 100 plus.
Oh, well.
Well, technically, technically I get out in the heat once in a while.
You must be in Arizona or something if it's above 100 right now.
Oh, it was on the way to Vegas yesterday.
It was 113 and Baker.
Wow.
That's like going through Death Valley.
Yeah, so anyways, it's just humid here and humidity sucks and there's nothing you can do about it but go swimming or sit inside.
So that's what I've been doing.
Oh, I was going to say, Charles, you might want to wait until September because iPhone 17 is coming out.
All right. Yep. I'll wait. Thank you.
I just want to go back to an Android.
No, you don't.
I think I'm going to leave this space.
I'm a blogger.
I think that's a blogger.
I have a
right now
I'm like
an old
iPhone
I think.
Yeah,
that's what
I'm on.
It's getting
ready to die
and I need
to probably
buy one
before the
tariffs make
a phone
cost as
much as
a car.
But I don't know, they're already expensive.
I've never had an Android phone.
I've never, I mean, they seem sort of confusing to me.
They seem sort of confusing to me.
I do wish the iPhones would get on Android's level as far as the cameras are concerned.
I used to love my Android camera.
Oh, yeah. Right.
And I was an Android fanboy for years.
And then, you know, the iPhone just works.
And I'm simple and I don't have games and stuff.
So they're always solid for me for work.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I agree with you.
Yeah, the cameras are not so hot.
But everything else, like you said, works, you know?
I mean, I'm
messaging. Yeah, like,
can I get a picture of the moon,
dude? Yeah? Like, I just
want a picture of the moon.
No, you'll get, like, a white dot that
you can barely tell what it is.
Yes.
You have to go in there and adjust all these
things and still not get a good picture.
Exactly.
Yep.
Just real quick, you guys, because I saw a few more people coming in.
I see Oki down there.
I don't know if she's in here supporting or if she's asleep.
I don't know. But there was a meeting this morning. So my bad to y'all in here. I missed
the meeting because I was busy trying to get my son's platform for his sessions working. It's a daily technical blah, blah, blah.
So I missed the meeting entirely.
So any updates that were discussed,
I'm in the dark about.
So I don't know, Okie, Darcy,
if you guys made the meeting today or Charles.
Was there an update discussed?
Sort of.
You had to be there.
Okay.
You see, what you could have done is woke up at 7.30,
got the platform set up
to attend the meeting.
It's this obnoxious, okay, so he's homeschooled,
and the platform that they use, they're moving to a new platform for this new school year.
Because he's in a summer program, the students are in a summer program,
are getting introduced to it first.
Every single day and for every session, he has an 8.45 session and then he has
an 11 a.m. session. Every single time we sign in, there's no classes. So he, like, you know how kids
are. He'll log in and he'll be like, mom, I don't have anything today. Boy, yes you do. And there's
all these troubleshooting things that we have to do and it's for every session every single day
Like as soon as he logs on it's wiped like he has nothing
So it's like this constant thing and then I have the teacher
Or therapist whatever saying like oh, I sent him a direct link in the email so he can join that way
Okay, but I've notified that he's not receiving his emails. So, um,
there, there's just something going on with this new platform that is totally obnoxious. So
yeah, they're working out the bugs. Yeah. I mean, it looks more user-friendly,
but I'm just like, bro, like it's, it's so annoying to like, I'm waking him up,
it's so annoying to, like, I'm waking him up, you know, get up,
you're going to have class in 15 minutes.
And then two times already he gets up, and then the teacher's like,
I'm having technical difficulties, so we're just not going to have class.
So it's a little obnoxious.
Sounds frustrating. sounds frustrating it is so oki threw thumbs up you charles said that there were updates but i'm guessing it's not updates to be dropped on the community so I guess we all just have to practice some patience.
And I'm right there with y'all because I have not
seen no sneak peeks.
I want to be surprised with everybody else.
So I'm just as antsy as y'all.
I just want to throw it out there to Wizard and... Wizard, pretty much.
And maybe... Oh, Okie, because she created it.
Since my NDA is by marriage,
I didn't say that I didn't want to say sneak peeks.
So, she's on her own.
Our NDA is two-in-1.
So if I decide not to see the sneak peeks, you don't get to see them either.
No, it just means I can't show you.
It doesn't work that way, though.
I don't think.
Wizard, I need back up here.
Wiz is
preoccupado, so
cannot chime in.
Oh, he's giving the thumbs up.
Dang it, Wiz.
You see?
You see?
Shout out to all y'all for coming in and showing support.
I know that it means a ton to Didi to see that we're all still here.
And we're all just rooting for him.
Hi, Halloween.
Please don't send me anything.
Send it.
No clowns. No clowns today.
I hope you're driving and enjoying your drive, though.
When is Darcy's thing?
What's it?
The music one?
Sing-o-bingo?
I think it's on Mondays, but I also believe that she alternates.
So it's like one week she's going to have Single Bingo.
The following is Poker.
That's my understanding of it is that she alternates.
I was just thinking of that 90s playlist that she's working with
and what we were just talking about today with the
Diddy songs. Oh yeah. Like how how many have been- A whole generation of music is like ruined.
Sorry, I was getting a phone call.
It'll be interesting what her playlist includes.
Yeah.
Well, I know that the most recent one she had, and I missed it,
that playlist I was looking forward to because she said that she was going to have
a lot of good ones,
and she had hinted at the genre.
So I was looking forward to it,
and then I just completely missed it.
I didn't get the notification for the space,
and I know that I had my reminder on.
So that sucked.
Wait, did she already do the 90s?
Were you awake? was i was awake
yeah not gonna lie though for a couple weeks there like i was keeping in touch with dd
and i was just like dude my insomnia is so bad like there were nights that i was going to bed
at five six in the morning there were a couple of nights where i just pulled complete all-nighters
so i would be asleep until one two o'clock in the afternoon um yeah my my insomnia was bad
it was it was terrible
oh yes Oh, yes.
So what y'all have planned for the weekend?
King and I are going to be out of town.
Darcy's going to be hitting some golf balls.
DeeDee's going to be resting.
Flex is working on hands.
I'm working on hands. No.
I was going to say that.
I totally feel you on that because um my main thing i've
been i've been drawing i started drawing at like eight nine years old and the one thing that drove
me crazy were eyes i wanted them to look as realistic as possible then I got that down and so then I started fixating on hair making the hair
look realistic and that is still like a 50 50 for me it just depends it depends on my own patience
honestly but the thing that's um aggravating for myself is that as soon as I feel that I messed up, I just stopped working on a piece altogether.
I have a sketchbook that has like so many unfinished pieces because I'm just
like, Oh fuck it. I ruined it. And I walk away.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean the trick that I,
at least for me is if I can get the shading down for the blocking in of something,
I can usually futz around and get through it.
But there's something about hands that are just foreign to me, even my own.
So it's really frustrating.
So I'm taking some time to practice on them for a while.
And, yeah, we'll see what happens.
Well, I give you kudos for doing it on an iPad,
because I've been told a few times that I should try doing,
you know, using an iPad and doing digital art.
But I don't know the idea about it.
The idea of it just, I can't get myself to want to try it because there's,
for me, it's something about having dirty ass fingers at the end.
It's so gratifying.
No, I share this sentiment.
I mean, you know, whenever I teach drawing and things like that, you know, it's always charcoal and newsprint and things like that.
So it gets everywhere.
And I was really resistant to drawing on an iPad, too.
too. I thought like it's kind of cheating, but I like the fact that I can just do layers. And if
I thought, like, it's kind of cheating.
I don't like it, I can just delete that layer and start over. Whereas on drawing, then I have to
erase it with a, you know, a kneaded gum eraser or something and try to bring back the highlights
or something like that. And I can, I can do that with, with this iPad. And so I'm not a convert convert yet to digital drawing but I'm
getting there for something I don't know so anyways I've had this iPad for almost a year now
and I've picked it up like maybe two dozen times so that that tells you where I'm at with digital drawing right now.
Yeah.
No, I don't blame you.
I think my son received an iPad,
and it has not even crossed my mind to pick it up and do it.
I mean, like I said, I've been drawing pretty damn near close to 40 years.
And I stuck with a pencil for so long.
I think it was only in the most recent six, seven years that I started toying with markers.
And I did get into charcoal. that's a lot of fun really messy but fun um that's why when i when i see oki like when she actually has gone into discord and
she paints live i'm just like mesmerized because um i't even, I won't even like touch paint.
Cause I'm like,
I don't,
I wouldn't know how to get like my shading stuff done and getting it to look
exactly how I want it to.
So I'm very in my bubble with my heart.
Yeah.
There's nothing wrong with that.
As long as you're making it,
you know,
and having fun while doing it.
Yeah.
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Hands.
I don't...
You really have me trying to think of when I've done...
I've done some pieces where there's a hand, but... I don't think I've put too much focus on it.
But I get what you're saying.
You literally did a hand.
I did?
Yeah.
Do I still own it?
I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure.
There's probably a picture that exists on social media somewhere.
I don't know.
You better find it.
I'm going to have to go looking.
Yeah, I think on X, she only put like the The I ones
Or maybe the
The one from
Fight Club
Yeah
I've done
I've done Marla and I've also
Done
Oh my gosh
I'm drawing a blank and it's my favorite movie
Ever
Brad Pitt's character.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, but I don't really like to share my stuff too much.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, I mean, it's one of the things it've got to, you know, it's hard to get over for people, artists and whatever, sharing your work with the world.
Yeah.
People like to just keep it private.
I mean, Edvard Munch, who, you know, he's a painter from like the early 1800s, he never never liked to sell his paintings he always said they
were like his children and so he would like agree to sell one and then renege on it and say no i'm
not selling it you know because he was like these are these are my my children so i can understand
that sentiment you know so anyways but me i like money so if somebody wanted to buy my work i'll sell it so
you know see i i tried that um i would get asked to create tattoos for people that i knew
and they would offer to pay me and i only accepted payment from one and I only accepted it because she sent
it um yeah and I was just like um okay so I received payment for one but even then it just
when it started be like feeling like a job I just was not into it
right no I understand that um yeah you're like if you're doing it if you're doing it for relaxation
and fun and just as a hobby and as soon as somebody starts paying you for it then there's
like there's different expectations so yeah i understand that like oh i don't
yeah i could i can understand like not wanting to do it for money. Yeah. And there was one friend that she was just like,
she gave me an idea of what she wanted.
And I was like, okay, what details?
And she's like, you know, whatever you can come up with.
Like, whatever you come up with.
I was like, all right.
I came up with something, had it down, sent it to her.
And then she's like, oh, can you change the flower to this kind of flower?
And then this, like, nah, you don't get to do that.
Like, this is what I created.
Yeah.
Client work.
Yeah.
Right.
Got it.
Hey, quick question.
XRP.
I have XRP on Coinbase, right?
Not wallet, just Coinbase.
Yeah.
Can I send that to my Metamask wallet and transfer it to E?
I don't know the answer to that because I've never used MetaMask, honestly.
Like, what are you trying to accomplish?
Do you just... Swap, flop, flop.
Sorry, my bad.
Do you just...
You wanted an E?
Well, no, I have, like, several, you know...
I have so much XRP,
but I'm looking to get in,
buy more into the google coin
and um i need to put 0.5 eth up i just wanted to so the so the easiest way to do it would be
would be in coinbase swap the xrp to eth and then send the eth
okay sounds good thank you sir yeah yeah you should you should be able to when you when you
hit sell like you can when you do sell you can do the option to sell the cash or or convert it into
another um into another asset all right sweet i'll be right back I'm gonna go do that right quick all righty
I have an option of getting a quirky for point five east into Google if nobody's in Google I'm
telling you well just do your own research but it's gonna fly uh it's the highest um it's the highest meme coin on abstract
chain right now so a totally new chain that i've never heard of that is intimidating to me but
i'll look into it was very intimidating to myself as well but once you I mean once you
do it once you know how you learn and everything's good to go after that.
Yeah I mean in the past month or so a friend told me about the Supra chain and all things Supra.
And that was a headache somewhat in of itself to learn how to buy it and all this other stuff.
It was crazy.
I like to keep things simple.
I like to keep things simple.
I know everybody talks about,
you know,
diversifying and stuff,
but I like to keep it simple.
That's why you only hold rabbits.
Yeah.
To be honest,
rabbits and this other project, I've only, I've only put my personal money toward Rabbits and this other project.
The other project was the first NFT project that I had ever heard of or come across.
And in my eyes, that turned out to be a big old scam.
In my eyes, that turned out to be a big old scam.
But yeah, the rabbits is what I hold, and everything else has pretty much essentially been gifted.
Not that I don't appreciate them, but it's mostly the rabbits that I hold.
Yeah.
No, it's going to be interesting
with every Tom, Dick, and Harry now
starting their own chain
how things are going to be.
It's just, it's crazy, like,
all these new, like, I had never heard
of Supra and then the one that
Charles just
mentioned, I think he said
Aspect Chain or something
It's like
so people just
can start these new chains
Yeah
a lot of them aren't even really
new chains they're layers
on top of existing chains
Yeah
But yeah I mean anybody can start a chain On top of existing chains. Yeah.
But yeah.
I mean anybody can start a chain.
We should start a rabbit chain.
Get prepared because AI is going to make everything possible.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whether it's bad or bad.
Everything's possible.
There's a lot of pros and cons to AI from what I'm seeing.
No, it's not just even AI.
Some of these platforms and chains are making it easy to build upon.
Until there's
wider adoption and you start bringing in
more people,
all that's going on
right now is just a move of money.
Yeah. Chasing the latest hot chain.
And it's the same money just circulating around.
That's true.
Yeah, I feel the same way about that abstract chain there was like a airdrop that was done with one of the communities i hold a token in and uh there was a redacted or not redacted i can't
remember what the drop was but you know not only you had to
do the abstract but you also had to have a slingshot wallet and then several other layers
and i got halfway through and i was like fuck it i'm not doing that for this meme coin or whatever
you know that will get rubbed right away so i feel you on the chains and stuff like that. It's like, do we really need, I agree, do we really need like 40 chains on top of whatever, you know?
And if they were all kind of straightforward, you know, like converting or the gas fee wasn't high or you didn't have to install
the you know the chain to your wallet that doesn't hold it natively and all that stuff i would be all
for it but like i spent half my time trying to figure out, like, am I doing this right? Am I sending the coin to the right thing?
And so anyways, I just, like, I'm like Vita.
I just hold a couple things, and I try to do some of the other stuff,
but then I'm like, ah, screw it.
I don't want to do it.
Yeah, but it's no different.
It's no different than, like, these NFT projects and, like,
NFT projects that, you know, they started off on Ethereum,
and then Polygon was the latest craze,
so they moved it to Polygon, and then moved it to Soul,
and then moved it to A, you know.
It's just chasing tails.
Right.
And I'm choosing not to participate in chasing my tail, I guess.
Unless there's something I really understand, you know?
Well, no, I mean, the prize...
I think it's somebody else's tail, not your own.
Your own sounds like a nightmare, you know?
No, no. You know, it's easy to follow.
It's hard to lead.
Exactly.
Right.
And there's some platforms and chains that are leading.
They just lead quietly.
And it's fine in those platforms.
They're not going to...
You're not going to see them on the latest Twitter posts from InfluencerXYZ.
True, true.
They're actually rather boring.
Right, right. They're actually rather boring. Right, right, right.
Yeah.
I guess things are getting a little more mature, maybe.
I don't know.
It's a redacted coin.
That seems to be a decent token, but do your own research.
But then I think A 8 Chain is a pretty good
chain you know even though there's a lot
of people keep adding stuff to it but
I don't know
it's one of the easier ones I think
good question
sorry for interrupting
does anybody know where I could
buy ETH with a credit buy ETH with a credit card?
ETH with a credit card?
Yeah.
Moon Pay.
Yeah, I was about to say Moon Pay.
All right.
You could also Relay.
Relay?
Relay will let you do it, too.
All right.
Yep. Charles is busy shopping.
I think Moonpay is one of the easier ones.
Yeah.
If you want to pay a high gas fee.
The other day I was listening to one of the...
Can you guys...
Yeah.
I just got the notification.
Looks like connection was lost.
Reconnecting.
I was listening to one of the founders of Ethereum the other day.
I guess he's not in Ethereum anymore, but that guy was so interesting. i think they talked for like five hours i didn't
listen to the whole thing but what i did here super interesting guy very smart too that that
skinny dude that like was made into a meme no he's still he still is with Ethereum, but a lot of the original founders were not part of it anymore.
Oh, gotcha.
I did see that BTC and some other stuff was on the move today, though.
I did see that BTC and some other stuff was on the move today, though.
Yeah, I saw it hit an all-time high.
I don't know if it's still there.
Kind of wish I was still holding on to mine.
But oh well.
I still hold
my doge.
You still hold your doge?
Yeah, DeeDee
was talking about doge forever
and I was just like,
I didn't listen and then it started
shooting up. I'm like, damn it!
So every time it takes a
significant dip, I'm throwing throwing a little bit a little bit
and so i'm keep i'm keeping eyes on dd because dd has a knack for for these things
yeah bitcoin's at uh over 169 right now so that's that's another all-time high, I think, for it.
That's cool.
Did you say 169?
I think he means 116.
Oh, yeah, that's what I meant.
Yeah, yeah, 116.
Sorry.
I'm like, dang, somebody made a lot of money.
Yeah.
I got distracted.
Yeah, $169.
I was about ready to drop off this call
take care of some business.
Sorry about that.
I didn't mean to get everybody
excited about
Bitcoin.
I'm anticipating seeing Ethereum hit the 4,000s again. Oh, when I was listening to that guy talk about Ethereum and stuff. lot with it that you know that i feel a lot of people who even know the name ethereum probably
will never know well probably won't look into but it's like you know super technical and
like it's actually pretty cool it just would be nice if they could work on the gas fees.
I mean like you got a bunch of geniuses working on this and you can't work on gas?
Yeah, I mean it's gotten better though.
I was going to say, the last I've traded on it, it's been a while since I have, but it's been super low. Not when I first came in.
I was paying like 30 bucks just to get a bag of something.
No, I'm talking in the last three or four months.
Oh, gotcha.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Would you remember the guy's name?
He's...
I think he's from, um,
like...
Because Gavin Wood and Charles Hoskins
left Ethereum to start Cardano.
And then there was an Anthony and
a Joseph somebody. I can't remember
their last names.
Did we lose King?
Yeah, he's out in the desert somewhere.
But I did get a message from the White Rabbit that we're coming up to the hour mark.
And they are busy, so they have to start working on shutting down the space.
So I appreciate everybody on the panel keeping me company and the conversation that we have had and everybody down below that has shown up and continues to support the rabbits, the
team and DeeDee.
Again, as I mentioned, DeeD dd is resting listening to doctor's orders
the date for the ghostment is still yet to be determined so i don't have an actual update for
y'all other than our founder is getting his rest and he appreciates everybody who continues to hop on.
So with that being said, thank you for joining us.
We will see you on the next one.
Bye.
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