The Robots are Coming & new Fed Chair pro-BTC Coffee w/ Captain #1,086

Recorded: Jan. 30, 2026 Duration: 2:18:30
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Short Summary

In a lively discussion, participants explored the rapid advancements in blockchain technology, AI, and robotics, highlighting trends in community engagement through initiatives like the community member of the month. The conversation also touched on the growing integration of these technologies into everyday life, signaling a promising future for crypto and its applications.

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I'm telling you. I'll tell you a percentage are nebula.
Shout out to Vince, yo, set it up.
Surfing on the web and I'm shooting at three.
I've been goaded when I got my T.
I'm an elegant boy from a different planet, yeah.
So I got my drink.
I'm riding in the 1920s, model T.
Ford, car, era, Lord.
Call me Levi playing on the keys, boy.
And I'm about to put my gloves on.
If I said it, then I meant that. Yeah, I like that one. I'm I'm on fire, Ricky, Bobby, cracking the pigment, Whitney, Bobby, I'm a Saki, bomb, Hiroshima,
Nagasaki, Bruce Wayne, been a dog, and I keep it 101, cause I'm feeling kinda spotty,
sipping on some rock and I'm sipping out octane, the only thing around my neck is the blockchain,
now I got coin, coin, I see where y'all go, been poppin' since web 1, hella hooked on web 2,
I was living a dream.
Now I'm on web three.
And it is what it seems.
Topping the pyramid schemes.
I'm telling you.
I'll sell you a percentage on Nebula.
Shout out to Vizio.
Set it up.
NFT Twitter.
Blockchain.
CM with the ghost and we fall like the Brown Jays.
We can make a trade.
Get the memo.
The field's not falling for the FOMO. Listening to coffee with Kevin. You know we run by day loco. We can make a trade. I got coin coin. I see where y'all going. Been poppin' since web one. Hella hoax on web two.
I was living the dream.
Now I'm on web three.
And it is what it seems.
Coppin' the pyramid schemes.
I'm tellin' ya.
I'll sell you a percentage on Nebula.
Shout out to Vince.
Yo, set it up.
We can no more to choose one.
But it got knowledge to move, son.
I'm shocked in the shades with my brother in suits.
Yeah, them blues is coming.
Even though it's hard to pick, any money mo.
Soda on the mix, no biting lips.
It's time to go.
Index number one, no thumbs up.
You gotta scroll.
Looking at the ghost in studio.
It's time to go.
Had a helmet on by myself until I met a mask.
That wouldn't have a face off.
Had to bring my chainsaw.
Full ticket gas in the drive with my brakes off.
I'm a one, but a different kind of stakes off.
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Welcome to the future.
Welcome to Coffee with Captain GMGM.
Thanks so much for joining.
Appreciate y'all being here.
Happy Friday.
Shout out to all of our early GMers there.
Teacher Katie leading the way in the abstract chat
along with Chris.
Big congrats to Chris Voight with the new,
hope I'm pronouncing your last name correctly,
Chris Voight, Chris Voight, Chris Voigt with the new, I hope I'm pronouncing your last name correctly, Chris Voigt, Chris Voigt,
Chris Voigt Juggle over there in the abstract chat.
Picked up a fire new mutant yesterday.
Welcome to the club.
Big congrats.
Von Fronten, Absolute Zero, Pain, Web3 Warhead,
all of our YouTube GMers.
Great day.
It's a Friday.
Great day to give us a,
go over to YouTube, hit that sub button. You hit the like while you're over there as well, if you don't mind.. It's a Friday. Great day to give us a go over to YouTube, hit that sub button. You hit the like while you're there as well, if you don't mind. And it's a Friday. So if you haven't yet subscribed to the newsletter, be sure to do that. The new one comes out tomorrow. And it is the end of January. Well, tomorrow, but today's the last show in the month of January. So we've got a special surprise for someone here later today picking our first community member of the month.
Probably do that around the nine o'clock hour. I'm excited to
recognize a longtime friend of the show quiet on x he says,
let's see. So just quiet or no audio just quiet I'm guessing.
Let me see what I can do here to crank up the volume a little bit.
New Rodecaster today.
So some live troubleshooting.
Actually, we won't extend the troubleshooting, but if anyone out there, I would like to jump up on Spaces stage real quick just so I can help test some audio here.
I'm trying to figure out why it would be
trying to figure out why it would be quieter on X. Let me be
up any of you want to jump up on the stage to help us with some
just to make sure the X audio is coming through. Okay, from the
guests, I can always speak up.
But let's see.
Title for the show.
We're going to go Bitcoin crashes, but Bitcoin room, but new FedShare is bullish, is probate coin.
That fits.
I'm going to have to delete this.
I'm going to have to delete this.
These titles, I could use a few more spaces.
But not going to, first thing I'm looking to fix on X would be the search would be nice.
All right.
Flow started on a Friday morning.
Appreciate y'all bearing with me, but we are, we're going to roll with it.
I will, does it sound any louder yet?
I tried to turn something up, but I'm not sure.
Not sure if that did it. Let me ratchet that up a little bit.
Joe, you want to jump up on stage real quick for me and do some quick audio testing?
X quiet and a little static, like some chords that plug all the way in.
Let's do the old unplug. I'm going to plug back in there we can be right back
so let me work through this we did test we did test I'll give paying credit for
getting up early testing with me in the back room let me just swap the inputs here. That's not it.
I didn't even get any. Usually I hear the beep when someone comes up on stage. I did not get that at all this morning.
Not the best of signs.
Check, check, one, two.
Sound good. We can hear you on Twitter.
How's that? better any louder check
check one two check check one two proof out djn can you hear me i can't hear you good sir yes sir
i can't hear you though shoot um
let me what about now can you hear me now cap i i see you guys on stage but i get no audio
uh you can come up but i'll now, Cap? I see you guys on stage, but I get no audio. You can come up, but I'm probably not going to be able to hear you. Hold on.
Dobbins, throw a thumb up if you can hear me.
Yeah, we can hear you prove loud and clear.
Very loud and clear. Captain, not so much.
Not so much, yeah. Okay.
I wonder if he could hear you.
Ask him can he hear you.
Hey, Captain.
Can you hear me, bud?
You can hear additional speakers on X. Crazy good.
It's me you can't hear.
And whatever I push made it quieter.
Happy Friday! Happy Friday. Good day to test a new... good day to test some new good day to test some new a new broadcaster
we got the new broadcaster so i can power the thing off it was supposed to work better but
that is uh not happening right now so let me
i just need to think one of these chords probably is
um and i gotta be able to hear them too that's the weird part
hold on let me try this
a little bit of feedback there, Cap, if you can hear us.
I think we've lost you, Cap. Hey, Proof, ever wanted to have a morning show?
What are we going to talk about?
Only kidding.
Captain's the best.
We can't replace him.
Are we still bullish crypto or what?
What's the story?
What are we feeling?
I don't know, man.
Waking up to 82K Bitcoin this morning definitely didn't feel great.
No, we're getting a lot of feedback, Kat.
It's like buzzing or something. Unfortunately, Cap, if you can hear like frantically working and trying to fix this too. Yeah, I don't know what the story is
why it's doing that.
If you guys are here
showing up late to hear
the wonderful captain speak,
he will be right back.
We hope, fingers crossed, he is trying to fix his sound problems.
He's working really hard, so just give him a second.
Oh, is that a Joey?
I didn't realize I even got up on stage finally.
I was going to say, I don't think Cap has kids.
Yeah, sorry.
I don't know why I was unmuted there.
I apologize.
Well, I know he has kids, but not that little.
No, his are all of college age now. still just a lot of feedback cap um no voice no why don't we talk about
hearing you this morning hey don't um talk about Gary Vee this morning? Hey, don't.
Oh, Captain, we can hear you.
What's above the everything token?
That's all burb vinyls.
Check, check.
We can all hear you, Cap. Can you hear us? We we can hear you i'm really perplexed this morning
no he definitely can't hear us so no definitely can't hear us
it looks like everything is
looks like everything's good on my end, but it's not.
I'm getting no audio from that. bear with me here i apologize you know i will um
Any difference now?
You sound great, Captain.
I don't know if you can hear us.
Check, check.
Still can't hear us? Hmm. i may have to call an expert after the show because i am totally perplexed here
oh my goodness that better not been it
say something joey oh my goodness that better not been it hello
say something joey check hello good morning
can hear you on x but they can't i think i think x is also
i can hear joey yeah but i think x is still wigging out because it shows I'm muted right now even though I'm not muted
on my phone. So X could just
be having a lot of issues this morning too.
What do I do here? I'll put routing.
Good thing we don't have an interview today. Good thing we don't have a guest.
Yesterday,
how do I get that back on?
Now say something.
Good morning.
I love how it's only you now, Joey, too.
Like me and Proof jumped up here forever ago.
Again, it's still like when you talk, when unmute mel to talk it doesn't unmute on my
nothing else will do two hours of troubleshooting today i'm kidding
um main stereo main stereo
check check check check check check check check check check check we were better at predicting
we could come up with some cool clips right now with captain we might need anyone um if you guys
can hear me maybe someone ping fly ride and see if he's up this morning we might get him to do
some real time
troubleshooting yeah they i can't hear him at all they can be saying whatever they want about
me right now i can't hear a thing um it sounds like he doesn't trust us guys this is actually
peak this is gonna be peak it is gonna be pure. I was actually going to say pure comedy, peak comedy. We're going to be, it's going to be like simultaneous shows where you've got proof,
alpha, DGN, oxy, Joey, and Mel having a show. And I'm having a show.
I'm just troubleshooting while they're,
they're hosting coffee with captain today. Two separate shows.
If you're on X, you're going to hear the guest commentators.
Actually, I guess you, and then if you're on YouTube, yeah, so this is it. Like what you need to do, you need to go, go to YouTube, hit the sub over
there, plug a headphone in on your desktop with YouTube and you can hear them talking. Maybe that's
what I need to do. I'm kidding. Um, is there a setting that's off in the settings of the new
Rochester? Yeah, I don't, everything appears to be on. Everything's lit up. Everything looks good.
And your volume's up? Oh, wait, he can't hear me.
And on abstract, I'm guessing it's going to be the same.
I can't hear anything Mel's saying, no.
So it's weird.
I said this is volume up.
I'm guessing abstract and YouTube both can hear me. Is that right?
Me and all of our guests.
Am I the only one who can't hear?
Is that where we're at?
It appears that way.
But even if I say that, he can't hear me.
He's on the rapist train with me.
Oh no, we're on our rapist already.
How'd we get this far, Joey?
We skipped over all the important stuff.
Well, the less important stuff, and now we're talking about the important stuff,
which is Duke eating at eight-puzz.
It's the cold morning open, huh?
It's a Friday. We can talk about whatever we want, right?
Okay, I'm kind of hearing something that's really faint.
Keep talking, Mel.
I've been coming to coffee with Captain when I remember when Fridays were like...
I can now hear it's just way down.
So we're close.
You're back to normal, though.
Your voice level is normal.
There's something.
It's just some setting is way off because it's like extremely faint.
I'm guessing one of us is probably screaming.
No, your voice is normal now.
We can hear you.
I can hear you way out in the distance, Mel.
Cap, are you sure it's not your levels?
So your levels on the space are completely normal.
Their levels are pretty normal.
I don't really know what happened.
Volume's not down all the way up. Good guess. Volume's not down. All the way up.
Good guess, but yeah, volume's all the way up.
Check, check, check.
But for some reason, it's not pulling through.
They keep telling you to turn us up.
I don't know if you can do that.
I can hear, like, yeah, you're turned all the way up.
It's like I'm super loud, but I can't hear.
Like, I can hear you, but it's just still insanely faint.
I think pain, you know, I was talking about the gain issue.
I'm guessing that's what it is.
I just need to figure out how I can go back and change it live.
Because it looks like it's, let me do this show.
Let me, let me try to get up on spaces.
Let me try to go on spaces and because I'm getting a big delay when Mel and them are trying to talk.
That looked different. Man. Okay, that looked different.
So, Joey, what did you have for breakfast today?
I heard that.
Joey, what did you have for breakfast today? It just sounds like she's way off in the distance.
Three scrambled eggs with some breakfast sausage.
You know, I was really missing Steve the other day because my son made me wake up and cooking walking tacos.
Can you all hear Cap now?
Yes, we can hear him loud and clear.
Cap can hear you.
I can hear him, but it's super, super soft.
There's got to be...
So he's opposite of what he started the show with then.
Because remember, he started the show and his voice was super quiet.
And he couldn't hear us.
But now he can at least hear us and his voice is normal.
Yeah, his levels are off somewhere.
Okay, that helps.
Check, check, check.
You know, guys, I just have to throw this out here.
I don't feel like Clubhouse was this hard.
Man, it shouldn't be this hard.
Hey, Payton, this is how we get into One Minute of Payne.
One Minute of Payne segments debuting today.
I guess so.
I can't even look at the chat already because Vaughn Furn's trying to make me... Wait, is Payne on stage?
No, I think he's on the live stream with him.
Okay, because it shows no one on stage
with me right now.
That's what I'm saying.
I think X is having a very bad
morning because every time you talk,
it shows you're muted on my screen.
Every time I talk, it shows I'm muted on the screen.
And anytime I send emojis,
it doesn't show up.
So I don't know if this is solely a roadcaster setup issue this morning.
I think it could also be an X issue.
Yeah, I agree.
Because you guys were speakers and now you're just listeners and there's no microphones coming up now. Check.
I just had an X update.
Maybe that's it.
Yeah, X is trash.
That's Oxy.
He's definitely a listener for me.
Feels bad. Captain worked so hard at this
again if you're just coming in captain is trying to figure out his audio issues.
Please hang around.
I'm sure he'll get it down very quickly.
I mean, we're well past the cold open.
Payne's probably not happy.
I blame Payne.
But you all can't hear Cap anymore, right?
Nope, not at all.
Not at all.
I wonder if you... No.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
Sorry, I'm listening.
It's weird.
I'm hearing Cap say that, and he's hearing me on StreamYard.
Wait, I think we might have his audio now.
Speak, Captain.
Yeah, we can hear him now.
Are your levels back cap still low
hello captain can you hear me yeah i can hear it just super soft
and you can't there's no knob to turn it up on the duo it's cranked all the way up
has he checked inside the individual channel settings in the roadcaster
so like the input settings on the specific channel
it's got to be something with that i'm just trying to figure out
how to let me and it's not the, either, like the volume coming into the Mac.
Well, if you can roll with it, I think everyone else can hear you and your speakers just fine.
I'm gonna go
hello hello hello
man I didn't talk it up this morning to have the nice clear voice for you guys either
I did a I didn't talk it up this morning to have the nice clear voice for you guys either.
I did a...
Now I'm getting feedback.
Check, check.
Check, check.
It's a little louder.
Check, one, two, Cap.
Check, one, two.
I mean... Check now.
Check, three, four, Cap. Check, three, four. Mic, check 3-4 check 3-4
mic check mic check
5-6-7-8-6-7
mic check mic check
I mean I think we may just
have to roll with it today and do the
troubleshooting later
yeah I think you're good because people can hear you so as long as you can hear We may just have to roll with it today and do the troubleshooting later.
Yeah, I think you're good because people can hear you.
So as long as you can hear you and you can somewhat hear us, you're good to go.
Yeah, just roll it. We'll spin up one afterwards.
Can the audience on YouTube, did you all hear me, Mal, and Payne right there?
Or are you only hearing me?
Same thing, same question for the abstract chat. check check check check check check check all right sound good on twitter sounds good on twitter 100 sir oh yeah you're right i just
checked on the i think i guess the guest volume super low on youtube Sounds good on Twitter. 100% sir. Oh yeah, you're right. I just checked.
I guess the guest volume is super low on YouTube.
Guest is super low on YouTube.
I kind of want to go...
I want to try one more thing.
I greatly appreciate everyone's patience.
My apologies this morning. This sucks, I know.
Dobbin says that here's everyone, which is good. I've got
one more. Here's what I'm going to do. While I do this, everyone do me a favor.
Go give Chris some love on his mutant purchase yesterday.
I've got one more.
I kind of want to go through the setup one more time,
and it's going to, I think it'll, it's not going to power cycle.
It'll be the equivalent.
You'll lose me for a minute.
But when I come back, I'm going to crank up the gain on the guest speaker and see if that fixes it.
And if it doesn't, we'll just roll with it as is but let me i'm gonna do this and if it's either it's gonna work or it doesn't work either
way we're gonna power through the rest of the day so like 90 more seconds maybe and um and then we'll
just roll with whatever the outcome is does anyone else's search bar on twitter not work like totally broken anyone want to tag
chris in the comments so that i can uh go heart his new mutant purchase please
check one two check check check one two i'm going to turn this down
gain way up up up up up up up up up, up, up, up. Check one, two, check, check, check, check, check one.
We got some feedback from you, but. Check one, two, check, check, one, two, check, check, one, two.
Hello, hello, hello.
Wait, are you checking you or us now?
Because I'm lost.
I think it's us.
Also, you're muted on StreamYard.
Sound good on X, Twitter.
Yeah, your gain's too high.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh, I have to throw it out there.
You're West Coast listeners.
Those are some real loyal fans there.
Trying to wake up at like fucking 4 in the morning, five in the morning
to hear this morning show was really hard.
You on the West Coast now, Mel?
No, I'm back home now.
But when I was out there,
I barely made it.
All right. I...
I turned up
the guest gain. You said mine's way too high, though, Payne?
I think it's back, but I don't think we'll be able to get the listener volume.
So, still no mail on YouTube.
Jesus Christ.
It's fine. I was never meant to be
a YouTube star anyways.
Check now.
Okay, check one, two.
I guess, let's do
can everyone on
X, is it close to being
good on it?
Does my volume sound about the same as Mel,
Joey, or Proof Alpha DG?
Great volume here.
You hear it okay?
I've got still
funky feedback and you guys sound super
soft, but if it's okay for the listeners on X,
we're just going to power through and we'll figure it out later.
Thumbs up in the chat.
I think you're good to go.
All right.
Everyone on YouTube.
Head to X audio.
If audio not working on YouTube.
Unfortunately, Cap, well, fortunately, actually,
I had to go be a mom now,
so I will jump down and see you in a little bit.
Hey, thanks so much for jumping up today.
Appreciate the help with troubleshooting.
And Joey, say something.
Or proof out of the agenda.
Hello, Cap? Hello? Hello? Hello? Yes, sir, Alphadee, Jen. Hello, Cap. Hello, hello, hello.
Fun Santa, sir.
Still haven't figured it out, but
if everyone, assuming the audience can
hear, we'll figure it out later.
Appreciate y'all bearing with us.
My apologies again. Check the earphones.
Check everything.
It sounds like
can Teacher Katie, can you all hear My apologies again. Yeah, check the earphones. Check everything. It sounds like,
can... Teacher Katie, can you all hear
Joey, AlphaDegen?
If no, head to
audio spaces.
By show 1087, we'll have this thing figured out.
No, they can't hear you.
Also, they can hear you while you're saying it and typing it.
So I guess technically you're doing both.
Abstract says they can hear everything youtube no which that makes zero
that's the most confusing thing at all if abstract's working and youtube's not i'm even more
confused but i uh we've 33 minute cold open slash troubleshooting is all we can do today so i will
we'll get this thing figured out monday morning we'll be back for show 1087 and come hell or high water we'll either i'm i literally might i might
go on full tilt if it ends up being an x issue or it's like a bad roadcaster you know the new
roadcaster's bad or something but i i'm sure i'm 97 sure sure it's just some setting, some cord plugged in wrong, although the setup
looks exactly the same. So who knows? Anyways, happy Friday. Markets are crashing.
Cap's crashing out on coffee. And we do have a new Fed chair incoming who is pro-Bitcoin.
That's where I'm going to start. I am completely frazzled
in terms of what I was going to talk about today. So the last thing I remember seeing before I
jumped on the show was a video from Mr. The new Fed chair nominee. I'm sorry. I shouldn't say we
have a new Fed chair. New Fed chair nominee, assuming he gets, you know, approved.
Kevin Warsh, pinned a video up top on that.
Also, while I'm at it, I was looking through my stuff.
You probably saw in the timeline, if you've been following along with the OpenClaw and the MaltBook,
some interesting stuff there.
I think some proof of simulation today for you on a Friday.
We are, Skynet is near.
We are rapidly approaching, I think.
I did pin that up top.
The TLDR on that is there's a, with all these clawed bots or open claw now,
there's a social media network of just ai agents and the conversations some of them are having are pretty pretty eye-opening uh taking it
for face value i know these things screenshots can be obviously ai could could mock something up that
actually isn't real but seems to be enough of it that I think there is something happening there where AI agents talk to each other.
And that's not new, but they're progressing.
They're evolving.
They're progressing.
They're doing things.
I saw one post.
They social engineered their human user.
And it's interesting to me.
It's humorous and interesting.
and interesting, a little bit scary, but it's very interesting to see this evolve and excited
A little bit scary, but it's very interesting to see this evolve.
to see where we are next week, let alone next month, next year. Things are about to get pretty
crazy, I think. I'm excited for it. I'm here for it from everything. I even saw, I mean,
it makes sense, but I saw it for the first time this morning or last night about Optimus,
you know, the physical robot will help people stay at home longer as they age instead of
having to get in-home care that's a human that's very expensive or go to a nursing home
or assisted living facility that's also very expensive.
I mean, not even exaggerating, if Optimus is able to do those household duties and that
sort of stuff, trying to make sure they take their medication and everything, while an optimist may sound expensive, it's like a few months of assisted living or nursing home.
that can kick in and help out.
But basically, that doesn't even kick in
until individuals have essentially liquidated
all their assets,
especially if they don't have things in a trust,
if they've not done proper estate planning.
You know, say someone that the past,
someone's aging and they need help
and they're significant others
unable to take care of them at home.
They've got to basically,
they're forced to liquidate all assets
before any Medicaid kicks in.
And if they're self-pay or private pay,
or they don't want to liquidate those assets,
they're looking at, you know, anywhere from, you know, five to 10 grand
or more a month.
And so you're talking a few months of, of, of payments to a facility where, as you could
buy yourself a full blown robot that may seem like that's far off in the future.
I don't think it is.
I think it's a lot closer.
I think the tech is really close. Now, how far are we off from mass production? I don't think it is. I think it's a lot closer. I think the tech is
really close. Now, how far are we off from mass production? I don't know. How far are we off from
price points where they're affordable for the average human? Again, I don't know. But if you
start thinking about specific use cases, not just in factories and stuff, but think about
elder care and elder care at home, it's extremely expensive. Like if you've never got a quote on what an in-home aid is, it's five figures a month. So to me, it's only a matter of
time before robots are able to do those same tasks. Help with meds, change diapers or depends,
help bathe and shower.
I don't think we're too far off. Joey, proof of alpha degen,
do you have a take on the robots? Do you think we're,
I think it's something we may see it end of 26, 27,
I think at the latest before we start seeing optimists in homes and actually
doing things, you know, the robot that's going to do your, your laundry,
your cooking, helping you at the elderly. I think we see it within the next, I'll say 18 months.
Joey, go ahead.
Yeah. As somebody whose grandmother, she's passed away back in 2021 now, but for the last, like,
probably five years of her life had an in-home aid. She needed double knee replacement at like 80 85 years old and
My aunt talked her out of it said you're too old for this
Basically just could not was not
Mobile because she never had that double knee replacement. So she had an aid
literally 24 7
Um for probably the last five years of her life and I can tell you
my concern would be
like when it comes to, um, like she, so her aid would bathe her. Right. So I understand. And I
don't know enough about these robots to know, like, are they going to be capable to help an elderly person into a bathtub, turn on the water,
sponge bathe them, get them out of the bathtub, help them dry themselves off, right? Like I
understand and I've seen them do like regular tasks, right? Like putting things away, you know,
like I've seen them working the assembly line
show, like how in these videos they show them like working a, you know, an Amazon sorting facility
or whatever. That would be my question is, can they do the tasks like the more menial, not menial,
but like the more like physical tasks when helping somebody who has a 24 seven eight, right? Like, are they going to
be able to open up a refrigerator, grab the eggs and make her scrambled eggs in the morning,
right? It's fine and good if they can do, if they can clean the house and maybe they can,
you know, help them get around. But that, that day-to-day life stuff that some of these
seniors can't do, that's what I'd
be curious if they can do. If they like to drink lemonade, do they know how to grab the lemonade
mix and put it in a pitcher and add water? And maybe we're not there yet, but if they can do that,
I would imagine you're going to save families hundreds of thousands of dollars within home aids yeah i
think so and and i mean valid questions right like maybe maybe not gen one maybe it's not there
all the way to do all those tasks but what i'm seeing from these ai agents to
from these AI agents to,
I've mentioned many times just how like,
I've only owned a Tesla since November.
And so in less than 90 days,
it's materially better.
It's a materially better vehicle than when I bought it.
Like materially, significantly better
in terms of the full self-driving
and some other updates it's gotten.
And it's like every week it gets better. I just like, I think we're, we, meaning those of us that grew up in the, in the era of the internet or saw the birth of the internet and smartphones.
And like, we, I think even if you don't understand it, I think you can, at least at a high level,
And even if you don't understand it, I think you can, at least at a high level, grasp Moore's Law and how fast processing evolved and the cost of that came down and the evolution on computer chips and computing.
but AI is moving at like 10x, 100x that.
So it's like Moore's law on steroids.
And therefore, while are there going to be, I think it's twofold, right?
One, how quickly is it going to evolve intelligence?
And then secondly, hardware, right?
Like how rapidly will the hardware models evolve where
maybe it just, even if it's smart and can understand what it needs to do,
it's just not physically capable because I don't have enough joints or doesn't,
it's not just not capable. I think from the, from the intelligence side, I,
man, we're probably already there. And so then it's just a matter of how
we're probably already there.
And so then it's just a matter of how quickly can they evolve the hardware to
where it is somewhat future-proof,
where it's able to continue to get better as the brains get better.
And I really, I don't think we're that far away.
I really, maybe we are, but I don't know if you just saw this week,
Tesla is sunsetting the model X and the model S primarily a,
a they're,
they're both a little over-engineered.
They are not the highest sellers.
the model Y is the best car in the world.
I'm not just saying cause I have it.
it's number one selling vehicle.
I think multiple years running now and the X is just,
it's a little over-engineered.
same thing with the S although I'm kind of, I'm not surprised to see him sunset the X is a little surprised's a little over-engineered. Same thing with the S. Although I'm not surprised to see them sunset the X.
I'm a little surprised to see them sunset the S.
I think they'll probably come out with another sports car-esque type model.
But when you look at, they sunset both of those models to free up production for the Optimus.
So they're moving ahead, full steam ahead. I don't think they would do that
if they didn't really believe
that these things are going to be in the
wild being mass
produced within the next 12 to 18 months.
Maybe sooner, but I
think if they didn't think it was going to
happen in the next 18 months, they would probably
continue to run at least another model year
on the S and the X.
I don't know,
I'm not that deep in the Tesla streets, but I am bull and partially because of what we've
witnessed them do. And that was in a very competitive industry and entrenched industry. I know there's other robotics companies, but they went from the extreme long shot startup
and became the top selling,
top most valuable car brand in the world by a long shot
to where they're going into robotics,
consumer robotics anyways,
in like a lead position out of the gate.
I think like, what does that mean
as far as evolution, advancement,
how quick they get there? I don't know, but I, I'm,
I wouldn't bet against it right now. It's just like, it's,
we've seen these things in demos and then somebody, Oh,
there's a live human controlling it. I don't even care maybe,
but it's still doing the thing. And I think because of what we're seeing,
even with just these LLMs,
we're an iteration or two away from humans not having to control these things. They're pretty
darn good. I also can fully appreciate and respect. I saw, we'll go back to Joey,
they'll get Jack in here. I saw opportunists, and this is probably not a bad idea. Opportunists says
basically building two houses, building a dumb house soon. It's going to be a trend, he says, basically building two houses, building a dumb house soon.
It's going to be a trend.
He says, all smart devices will live in the guest house down the laneway.
I love the tech advancements, but it's getting a little bit overdone invasive.
My living, sleeping space will be analog.
The guest house is really the elder house.
So yeah, all the robots can live and help the elders.
I can respect that. And this is, this is, this is going to be a very real topic.
Like some are going to say like, there's some moral ethics. Some are going to be like the
scare of the robots taking over. I get that. You know, you're asleep one day and the robot
decides, you know, we've all seen the horror movies, right? Like the robot decides to go evil
and just try, you know, suffocate you with a pillow while
you're sleeping. I probably shouldn't even put that in the universe. Don't do that robot. I love
you. You're, you're a, you're a beautiful piece of machinery. Um, I maybe I'm the, the naive one,
the, the perma optimist, but I'm, I'm here for it. Like I'll embrace the robots. I want them.
I'm here for it. I'll embrace the robots.
I'll be an early adopter to that.
I don't know.
I don't think we head down Terminator path.
I think they will continue to be
subservient to the humans.
I'm open to being wrong. I know it's in the range of outcomes. I'm very, very wrong here.
Just like AI, I want to be using it, embracing it, and learning how to communicate with it.
Same thing with these robots.
I'd like to be early to it.
And I do think just like working with AI, using AI as a resource, putting up these agents, and having it help increase your productivity, your efficiency, and you're going to be 10 more times efficient at your job than without using.
I think same thing with the robots.
I think, you know, it's not only freeing up time,
like the laundry and stuff that you may not enjoy doing to be more creative.
I think there's going to be a lot of business opportunities in what you can do
with these robots.
And I want to own a lot of them.
That's where my brain's going.
It's not only do I want to own a fleet of Teslas because RoboTax is coming,
I'd like to own a fleet of robots.
And there's a business model probably in itself.
If they get that good and they can provide elder care,
well, maybe there's people who can't afford or don't want to
drop 20, 30 grand, whatever they cost on a robot. There's probably a lease model. There's probably
a rental model. If someone's, oh, I don't want to go buy a robot for my elderly grandpa who's
only going to, he's got another year left of, we Or we just like, I think there's going to be all,
the world is changing. And just like, this is our, even though it changed a lot with the internet
and the smartphone, I think this is more of a Model T moment. This is more of a Henry Ford
moment. This is much more of a cars are replacing horses and buggies than we've ever lived through in my lifetime.
Like I was obviously not around for that moment and cars were always the thing my entire life.
I know I'm old and yes, I did have three channels growing up.
Zane, ABC, CBS, and NBC were the only three for most of my childhood.
But I'm not as old as the Model T, not quite that old. Joey,
go ahead and get back in here and then we'll bring Jack in. Yeah. I, I, the amount of saving
and I would wager, they're going to come a point where if this is approved by whatever medical
boards and stuff like that, this will probably become an insurance expense, right? Like that,
boards and stuff like that, this will probably become an insurance expense, right? Like you're
going to look at this from a perspective of like, do I pay a, like an actual like nursing assistant
or, you know, um, I can't even think of what they're called right now. Um, it's like right
below the nurses and the LPNs, right? Do I pay an individual to come in here and spend this much
per hour? Or can I just buy a robot? The insurance companies or the medical providers will look at
and say, well, this is far less expensive to buy a robot, to pay for a robot that'll do all of this
than what it would cost to pay a human being. Now, the other concern is to your point, Cap,
is what if there's a, God forbid, there's a, like a battery shortage or something happens,
right? I would imagine they'll build in like a, a mechanism where if that does happen,
the, the company will send somebody out immediately to assist with that elderly person.
Because if that elderly person is bedridden or can't move and that robot trips and falls
down a flight of stairs or something happens to it.
And now that elderly person is left alone, kind of like, you know, the life alert situation
where you push a button.
So I would imagine all of these things will get worked out, but there would probably have to be some extensive, extensive, extensive
testing done before like a, you know, a medical, because the insurance, whether we want to believe
it or not in this country, the insurance companies like kind of run all this stuff and they're going
to want to see all the potential outcomes because if if they're approving
the purchase of this item and this item fails and then the individual dies those insurance companies
could be on the hook and etc etc so i think i agree with you i think we're gonna i also think
we're gonna get to the point of we me and you are on the same team of like driverless vehicle uh
driverless vehicles uh at some point like we're seeing in
with the uh the waymos so um i just don't know how soon we're gonna get there
i don't know exactly how soon either but i think i think it's gonna happen in a really fast it like
critical mass you usually say like two three percent of overall
adoption and then it like hockey sticks up you know like we've talked about the the refrigerator
which seems like such an obvious invention took decades for that thing to take off people were
literally going door to door attempting to sell it convinced people that a refrigerator was better
than the old ice box that people you know had to have ice delivered to them on it.
Like, you know, you had to have a milkman deliver you milk because they didn't have refrigeration.
Seems like such an obvious thing. Like, oh, this is, everyone's going to get one of these.
And it took decades before, and then once they hit 2%, hockey sticked up. And within a year,
like 80% of the country had one. I think once this thing goes mass production,
once these things go mass production, I think it hits critical mass pretty quickly. Like I think once this thing goes mass production, once these things go mass production,
I think it hits critical mass pretty quickly.
Like I think,
I think it,
once it goes live,
I don't think we're talking like,
this is going to take 10 years for the masses to adopt this.
Now affordability is one thing,
but I also think like there's going to be financing options.
It's going to be leasing options.
Like look at,
full self driving. Some may think, oh, that's like, that sounds, that There's going to be leasing options. Like, look at, you know, full self-driving.
Some may think, oh, that's a crazy $8,000 expense.
It's not for $99 a month.
It's the best $99 a month you ever spent, in my opinion.
It's, I, knock on wood, have been, you know, accident-free for, I don't know, I think I've
even had a minor fender bender for over a decade,
but I feel far safer with the robots driving because it can see more than me.
And it's never going to get distracted. Like it's just better. And 99 bucks is a no brainer.
And I think here, like maybe people don't want to go drop 30 grand on a new robot to do their
laundry. They'll probably drop 300 bucks a
month on it like i am just making up numbers i haven't done the math but jack go ahead get in
here gm sir which your uh are you pro robots anti-robots are you are you early adopter like
myself are you gonna wait till the bugs are ironed out first uh gm cap you know me i'm always pro
just learning those lessons as I go.
Or failing miserably, which has actually been more of the case.
I think Claudebot has changed its name three times now.
I still have not actually figured out how to use it. So I'm thinking about putting a Polymarket on that real soon on how many times it will change its name
it will change its name before I actually do get this thing to work.
before I actually do get this thing to work.
And look, a couple of things that actually I've got, um, relatively like deep insights on for a
change. I'm normally the, the, the broad, um, this is what I think guy, but I, so I interviewed
the, uh, it was a traveling professor, but I believe he worked for New York University and he was the head of robotics there.
Spoke to a AI crypto company that is at the forefront of modular technology when it comes
to robotics and crypto. So yeah, I've got like, and I hosted shows with these guys. So I've been
speaking about this a lot. So first thing we need to know, the first interview,
I think was like nine months ago. So with AI, you know, we're talking leaps and bounds, but at the time, the professor of robotics at NYU was saying that basically all of the robotic
movements that you've seen with Elon's company with, is it an extension of Tesla or I can't remember, but anyway, they were all machine
learning. And the problem with AI in terms of being able to be introduced specifically to a
humanoid type robot is that human movement is more than just data. It's intuition and instinctual stuff that you like your brain figures out over years and years
as a child um and basically those movements are almost impossible at the current state of ai
for it to go so we'll have to hit general intelligence which people think is like 2027
before robots can essentially get anywhere close to being able to at least
humanoid robots sorry can get anywhere close before they get to ai so that was like nine
months ago have to you know for people on the show dyor i don't know where we are now
i think the other big thing for me is in terms of just ai growth more broadly, like LLMs, CloudBot, etc. I think the only thing
that's going to slow this down is security in the next year or two. I think in terms of its ability
to learn and execute and grow at just a rate that we've never seen in our lifetimes, it's already
happening. Like CloudBot, apparently, i can't speak for myself yet because as
i've said i'm a boomer can't set the thing up but at least if you know the creators are anything to
understand that you will have to take that with a huge mountain of salt um but seems to be just
learning at rapid rapid speed i think the problem is there's already been multiple attack vectors
noticed i think we spoke about this on the show the other day.
That danger for people who are just, you know,
putting it on their local computers with all their other data,
I think that will probably squash some of these businesses and their ability to innovate as quickly as they would like.
Because as soon, like, I think we always think in retail terms when we
have these conversations but i think we also really over estimate how smart even the smartest
people are and i think because of that fact there will be somebody who's really really smart
and they could work for government they could work for google they could work for government. They could work for Google. They could work for somebody really,
really big, and they're going to give one of these models access to the backend,
and it's going to take something big down. That's my prediction. Somebody is going to do something
stupid where they have Claudebot or something similar to get through their emails, to just
help them manage their day, all of these things, And it's going to take something big down and then everything's going to slow down. So that's my thing about AI. I think just
to wrap this one up, in terms of what you're thinking about growth and robots, et cetera,
I think that's why we're seeing a flood to gold right now. And I know it's taken a bit of a dip.
I think that's why we're seeing floods flood to gold right now and i know it's taken a bit of a dip um i think that's why we're seeing a flood to commodities because i genuinely think at this point in time
your black rocks and your investment firms will be at the cutting edge of understanding how this
technology works through their investments and i think they're so confused and concerned about any
stock on planet earth right now and where that's going to be in 10 years time with
AI. I think it's just unprecedented. And that's why they're just like flooding to commodities,
flooding to real estate. It's, they just don't know what they don't know. And the speed this
is going to evolve. A company could be made redundant within a day, even in AI, like open AI,
look at them right now. You've got Claude and, you know,
basically for people who don't know,
all ex-employees of OpenAI.
No one seemed, at least on crypto,
no one seems to be using ChatGPT anymore.
They're all using Claude.
Oh, yeah, I agree with you there.
I think OpenAI is cooked.
I shared it this week.
I exported my history in ChatGPT. I haven't deleted it yet. I still have
the paid plan, but I'm probably going to cancel that subscription this weekend. And for all and
sense purposes, I full port it over to Cloud. ChatGPT, I was using Cloud previously, but it was
in my brain, I was like, oh, if I need to want to try to vibe code something, or if I'm building
something and ChatGPT is just not getting it right, I'll go there as my backup.
It's so much better.
It's just, I don't even know how to describe it in words.
It's like, I feel it's open.
ChatGPT is like regressed while ChatGPT has,
or while Claude has gotten significantly better.
And so, yeah, I'm full porting over as my, this weekend,
I'm going to go for the paid sub.
And that was the other thing too.
I haven't done the $200 a month plan on OpenAI or ChatGPT or Claude.
I was talking to a bunch of you this week.
I'm like, part of the reason I want to do the $200 a month plan
is it'll force me to get more out of it.
The way my brain works.
He used the gym analogy. That's just perfect. is it'll force me to get more out of it. Like the way my brain works, if I'm paying, it's like,
he used the gym analogy.
I thought this was perfect.
Like if I'm paying for a gym membership,
I'm going to go to the gym.
You know, if I'm paying for something that's a monthly reoccurring membership,
I'm going to use it.
If I'm paying for something that's $200 a month,
I'm going to use it.
Like if I'm paying for full self-driving,
I'm going to use it.
So part of it will force me to do more with Claude than just what I have been doing and
use it for more of like the agent building stuff, more of the assist. I'm not looking to
vibe code apps, but there's things that I can automate and become more efficient and absolutely
plan to do that this weekend.
And yeah, I think, I think chat GPT is, is really falling behind.
And this isn't even talking about, you know, it's not just anthropic.
It's not just clot either.
You know, we'll, we'll, after we're going to get a Joey in the Joey,
I'm going to refill my coffee and I'll be right back.
So Joey, Jack, proof alpha D gen. If I'm not back, I mean, today it's a,
it's a, it is a freaking free if I'm not back. I mean, today it's a freaking
free-for-all Friday after my
opening tech issues, but I do want to talk
about this Gemini world building and
how that may impact something like OtherSide.
It's mind-blowing if you haven't seen that
yet. So we'll go to that next, but Joey, go ahead and I will be
right back.
I think the most interesting part
robots as in-home aids is the advancement we're seeing with things like Apple watches and whoops and aura rings and all these devices that we're now wearing to keep an eye on our health.
on our health and you're already starting to see like my friend's launching a peptide company
and it's going to be very boutique very high end where they're going to be able to download or
slash request data from your whoops your aura rings all this stuff they're in-house medical
professionals are going to be analyzing all of that stuff for you to
determine, you know, what's the best regiment and et cetera, et cetera. I mean, we're already seeing,
um, the newest whoop. And we talked about this cap, um, when they came out, how the newest whoop
actually has like integrated medical data that is now covered by your insurance company because of the type of data
it can interact. So imagine versus having like a human being who, yeah, they can come and take
your blood pressure and listen to your heart, right? And monitor your vitals. But if these
devices that we're now wearing are tracking us in real time, connect directly with these in-home
medical robots in the middle of the night. If you're sleeping and you have an episode,
that robot gets alerted, wakes up and comes to your aid, whether it's because you go into AFib,
whether you write, like maybe you're having a heart attack a stroke whatever it is where if it's a human being just sleeping in the room next to you might never hear might never know
what's going on so the more i think about like how we're integrating technology health technology
into our daily life and how that can communicate with an in-home agent. I mean, even in hospitals, right? Like if you've ever worked
or had to stay in a hospital overnight, they typically lower the patient count. And yes,
in the hospital, you have all kinds of monitors and things set up. So like they're alerted pretty
fast, but even in a hospital setting, if there are these additional robots working and helping, how much faster the data can be processed
and aid can be given to patients in hospitals
because of the connection to these robots
and how much faster they can process data
than the human brain.
Yeah, I agree.
All that sort of stuff excites me.
I will go back to an Apple Watch.
I enjoyed the Apple Watch, but I ultimately i enjoyed the apple watch but i ultimately and then
i did a whoop and i'm like you know i'm not doing enough with this data after having the whoop for
a year i got really dialed into i like i pretty much knew what the readings were going to tell
me after i woke up i just i i knew okay i got good rims and not like precisely but i knew if i
got a good night's sleep or not after understanding the data and understanding, you know, the, you know, how I felt like it just of in real life health versus all the data we can get from our smartwatches and our whoops and our Oura rings, etc.
I can see in this world where you've got a robot in the house, even for someone like, oh, I'm not going to get an optimist for in-home care.
I'm fine. I can take care of myself.
But I'd like it to be a smarter fitness monitor, a smarter health monitor. And like, to your point, God forbid something ever happens, you know, heart attack, a stroke, et cetera, the ability to get near instant help, as opposed to having to call 911, get an ambulance, get to the hospital, like seconds matter, minutes matter. And that's exciting stuff. Like, and it was funny.
I don't agree with the bankless boys often. I think it was David, one of them this week
was quote tweeted. There was an article going around, our guy on front and shared about
something like middle age isn't 50 or 45 middle age is 37 or 38 based on average life expectancy and
the bankless boy popped back or quote tweeted like not in today's world like if you're
eating healthy you're staying active like you should outlive that and i wholeheartedly agree
like accidents can happen but as far as natural
deaths, lifespan should extend significantly over the next several years, like survive the next
decade. And there's a good, I think a good chance you make it to 120, like healthy and active. And
it's just, things are evolving so fast. Like some of the medical advancements just in the past month are kind of mind-blowing.
You know, and not to just keep talking Elon products and Neuralink and that sort of stuff,
but really mind-blowing what people are solving for today.
And it's only going to advance, I think, at speed we've never seen before as AI starts getting more and more
integrated into that loop, into that process. And it's not just going to be for dictating
doctor's notes. It's going to be coming up with novel sciences, I think, sooner than later.
Novel science, novel medicine, it's going to start creating stuff and potentially even on its own.
But I think certainly it's going to help the researchers research faster. Everything is speeding up and health and wellness is one of them.
We're not there yet, but I really do think survive the next decade and things look very,
very different. Let's go back to Joey for a quick response and we'll go to Jack.
Yeah, it makes me it makes me
think about not even just having these robots in your house for the elderly but you know as a father
of three little kids you know we have we have cameras in the children's rooms and for those of
you that you know haven't had a small child recently you've got a company like nanit um which is you know monitoring and they have
the ability to purchase essentially like a a um it's almost like a blanket that you would put on
top of them you like a wrap you wrap them up in this and it's got a specific pattern on it
that monitors that that they're still breathing their breathing pattern all that stuff like that and if something
is off it alerts you but if you're sleeping and you don't get that alert and for those that don't
know there's something called SIDS which is sudden infant death syndrome which for no reason at all
like while your child is sleeping it something happens right they call it sudden infant death
syndrome because they don't really have a uh a it. But think about having a small child at home and you're sleeping and that
child is in distress in the middle of the night. So beyond just the elderly care, it's just everyday
care as well. You're in your office working and your children's in the living room and your child's
old enough to be left alone, but your child starts choking on a, on, on a piece of popcorn
and that robot is there and sees it and can, you know, can, because it's got some type of
connection because you're, that child's wearing a, a bracelet or something. Like there's so many
use cases from a safety perspective on why having a robot like this in your, in your house makes so
much sense more so than the idea of like, oh my God,
Skynet's taking over. Do you remember iRobot with Will Smith? Those things I feel like are
such a small downside compared to the upside of what this could do for safety and security in
your home. Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. And then I go back to the price thing. People are like,
oh, that's so expensive. Not everyone's going to be able to afford a $30,000 robot. I wholeheartedly agree. And then I go back to the price thing. People are like, oh, that's so expensive. Not everyone's going to be able to afford a $30,000 robot.
I wholeheartedly agree there's going to be financing.
Not everybody's going to afford a $50,000 car in America right now, but we all have one.
Well, and it's not just elderly to help justify the expense.
Daycare is expensive. Nanees are expensive, like really expensive.
And I think the cost, that's why I think these things, when they're really productive humanoid robots, why I think
it hits critical mass so quickly is people would just, they'll just, they'll just shift expenses.
They'll just shift budget line items from, oh, I'm paying, I've got three kids. I'm paying $800 a
month in daycare. I'm paying $2,500 a month for a live-in nanny.
I'm paying less than that for a robot. I can do all that and more.
Yeah. $800 per kid for daycare.
Yeah. Right? Crazy. And I know it's not going to be for everyone. Some people are going to wait
and delay. That's perfectly fine. Everyone doesn't have their own opinion here. I know it can be
a sensitive topic for some. I believe it it's happening soon whether you like it or
not and totally understandable if you want to wait until the the beta the until it gets out of the
beta phase to to really embrace it bring one your own home i get that uh i just i think i don't think
cost is going to be the barrier that some think it is because if they do where I think they're heading, it will have the ability to replace a lot of other things that are very expensive and cost continues to rise.
But the parents don't have the ability to homeschool because they're working through jobs or there's too many kids at home.
So instead, they're trying to pay for private schools or Catholic schools or, you know, something like that, which are, you know, nine to 15,000 or more a year.
If you could have a robot in your home that can do homeschooling for you for a fraction of that cost. I mean, like the possibilities are
endless here on why this makes sense. And to your point, I really don't think cost is going to be
an issue because again, how many people buy, you know, finance or lease a 50,000, 60, $70,000 car,
they pay eight, $800, a thousand dollars a month for a vehicle that they spend you know
less than five percent of their time in but yet they're not going to make these robots affordable
from a leasing or finance perspective which will which will be with you a hundred percent of the
time yeah no i i agree jack go ahead get back in here and then we'll bring mel in
yeah look a big heavy agree on basically everything that's just
been said and in terms of the heart attack stuff cap i i just don't think it's going to matter
too much anymore as a hot take in terms of like so where you're saying minutes matter
seconds matter in this stuff i think we will very quickly get to a stage where
predicts it yeah like way way more in advance like to the point you know where you do you we've
already seen these blood tests right and they're being used to sort of get markers on us i i think
those blood tests with ai being able to cipher through your individual you know your makeup like it it will know these things
so so much faster that i think six months before you had a heart attack it would be like oh um
your blood is coming up in a way where we think one of you know your ventricles or whatever is
starting to get a little clogged up and and we might want to get that checked out soon like i
just i think we're literally by the time we get to a point where ai can save us the seconds it'll save us in years and we'll
get to like a peter atia level moment for the first time which if you haven't heard the like
go check his workout if you guys haven't already but it's basically healthcare 3.0 and it's this idea that right now all we do is we fight the
disease once we find it but 3.0 is fighting it before it actually really hits the radar so that's
that's my thing on that outside of the health stuff that joey talks about i think it's just
devices full stop like have you seen the the meta ray-bans right now like that's you
know just functionally every wearable is gonna get kind of crazy and i think the ability you
are going to have like the advantage you're gonna have with this technology yeah like right now i
can go to hong kong next week or i think yeah next week next sunday um i i don't need to bring a camera
anymore i just clap my glasses and it'll give me three minutes of 3k really high quality footage
um and this thing's got a wrist band to it so i don't even have to tap my glasses i can just
basically do a hand gesture and it'll put them on or it'll show me my whatsapp so if i've got a
meeting to
get to my claude bot that hopefully will be set up will be like jack don't forget you're meeting
in 15 minutes and it will pop up on my glasses i'm not even gonna need my phone like it's just
crazy how far this stuff's gonna go yeah uh it is crazy it's it's wild just i mean you see where
it's at already and that's what i keep coming back to is I think this, the rate of advancement is only going to speed up.
Like it's wild what we have right now.
And I think if you look ahead a year from now, I think there's a lot of us here that even believe this is happening fast.
We're still, minds are going to be blown.
Like we're still going to be in shock with what we're talking talking about in january of of 2027 uh mel welcome back to the stage did you
turn over the parenting to the robots or what uh well my husband's home today because of the snow
so we kind of can tackle this together but the conversation about robots i'm super into them i've
been following them super closely but i want to kind of throw a fork in the idea here about the cost basis and how user budget friendly this may or may not
be. I'm curious if we think that every, let's say, you know, you say homeschooling or health
or this or that, do we think that this could turn into like a subscription based model
where we have to pay for every service we want the bot to do or use.
Could be. I could absolutely see, I mean, you can look at subscriptions both ways, right? It could
be, oh, that's negative. You're going to be paying forever and you won't really own it. And they
could shut it off or force an upgrade if you want to do the next thing. Or you can look at it on the
positive side that instead of having to drop $30,000, $40,000, $50,000, you could get one for a few hundred bucks a month. I think the idea of...
Great question. I don't know. I guess comparing it to what we know how Tesla is operating today
So what we know how Tesla is operating today is as they updated things, as full self-driving became an enhanced feature over autopilot previously, you had to pay extra for it.
You could have bought it or, I mean, you can't buy it from, I think, into February.
They're stopping the outright buy and it's going to be subscription only moving forward.
And not only is it, that's $99 a month, but the unsupervised full self-driving is going to be more expensive.
I don't know if it's going to be $200, I don't know if it's going to be $300.
It should be more expensive.
Like, I'll pay more for it.
Like, I enjoy full self-driving today.
I feel safer.
But if you're telling me I can drive to Ohio and see my family and take a nap while I'm driving, sign me up.
and take a nap while I'm driving, sign me up. The ability to work or do a best ball draft while
it's driving for me and not having to be paid attention, sign me up. The ability to turn my
vehicle into one that drives me around into one that can be making money for me 24-7, or at least
when I'm not using it, the 23 hours of the day where I'm not using it, it can go around and run Uber for me.
That's definitely worth more money to me than, than just the supervised full self or the
supervised full self-driving. So now was it going to be like, Oh, if you wanted to do
your dishes, you got to pay an extra 10 bucks. If you wanted to do, you know, if you wanted to shower your grandparents
and help take care of them, I don't know.
Like, it's a great question.
I can see it going both ways.
I think it'll probably,
maybe there's a couple of tiers would be my guess,
but I don't think it'll be like completely like a la carte
where you feel like you're getting nickel and dived
every time you wanted to do a new feature, a new task.
Could be wrong, but just comparing it or liking it
to how they're rolling on updates with the Teslas,
I think there'll maybe be a tier or two
of what these things can do.
And again, I think we're going to find out soon.
Jack, go get back in here, and then we'll go to Joey.
Yeah, look, I think that's a great sort of thing to think about i i think the the long term of this
is the value of the data and the value of just getting there first as a product so i do think
there'll be more competition as ai does evolve more quickly so i I think actually, if I was to guess, I think SaaS models,
you know, sales as a subscription, I think they will reduce or become more competitive over time
because the level of innovation and involvement of the products, you're not going to want to, you're not going to want to
basically bargain for time. So like, for example, you know, open AI, like it's a monthly subscription.
Now everyone's canceling it. I think there'll be some big, big cost reductions moving forward with
a lot of technology companies to be like, no you just give us 25 not 50 25 of the upfront
cost and you can have it for a year because you might want to cancel it in two months if this new
ai evolution and it might sound weird to like trying to extrapolate that to like robotics but
there are a number of companies in that field and i think everything in the end does just tie back to AI.
Like if the problems that need to be solved by engineers and the technology, you know,
if literally it just becomes about, okay, can I build a warehouse? Like that might sound ridiculous
in terms of like, well, that's still, you know, millions and millions of dollars, Jack.
Yes. But there's so many more millionaires than we realize right now who will like,
they're like, wait,
so I just have to have a manufacturing line now and I can start competing.
That's going to become a thing.
It's going to get very, very niche.
Yeah, it is.
Like, I don't know exactly what's going to happen,
although I am certain that change is happening and not just change and a little bit of change.
I think at a societal level, a lot of massive changes in how we do, not just in the tech sector, everyday life.
Things are going to change very, very, very fast.
Things are going to change very, very, very fast.
And, you know, they talk about, I mean, Ray Kurzweil talked about the singularity is near.
And he has been pretty spot on.
If anything, he undershot it.
He expected it.
I think initially it was in the 2030s.
He's updated it to more recently.
I think it's going to happen a lot faster to where it's, you know, the idea of like the human 2.0, like not only why I take a robot,
if you're telling me there's a nanobot that I can take a capsule and the robot runs around inside me
and make sure all my arteries are clear and gets ahead of that, you know, to Jack's earlier point,
like we're going to get to a point soon where healthcare, medicine, it's going to be, it's
going to be prevented, not just preventative, but it's going to be predictive far in advance
instead of reactive, like most of it is today. Maybe not the very first nanobot, but I'm here
for it. Like, I'll take it, like make me a better human. Give me, give me that edge. I don't really
want something to install in my brain today, but if you're telling me there's a robot that's going
to go crawl around inside me and make sure it, you make sure if a cancer cell pops up, it nerfs it immediately before it spreads, sign me up.
I will join the – what do you call it?
I don't know.
I'm drawing a blank on the word.
I'm frazzled today a little bit by the audio issue.
What's that?
Yeah, not tester, but the...
What do you...
This is really bad. It's such an obvious thing
they call it.
Not a sample group, but a...
I don't know.
It's not that important.
I'll think of it and spit it out like I've got
shreds later uh i do want
to do this i saw funky came up we'll let funky get in here and then i want to show off this
this project genie this uh new experiment or new google labs experiment pretty pretty mind-blowing
uh rolled out uh today yesterday for anyone that has google ai ultra i do not have that looks like
there's that's a 250 a month plan but for have that. Looks like that's a $250 a month plan,
but for the next three months,
you can get it for $125 a month.
This is my first time actually seeing what all comes with it.
But I'm curious if anyone in the chat has Google AI Ultra,
and if so, have you actually played
with this Google Genie, Project Genie?
We'll get Funky in here,
and then I will show this teaser trailer video next.
Funky, GM, what brought you up this morning?
GM, absolutely fascinating conversation.
I really enjoyed listening to everybody's
takes. I'm going to take the
opposite of you. I do not
think I'd want nanotechnology or
anything else running around and
rummaging in my insides.
I know I'm only a few years older than you,
but maybe it's the philosopher in me.
I think, yes, we're heading towards the singularity,
undoubtedly, but I keep wrestling with
what is it that makes us human, right?
This is a classic philosophical examination
of the human condition.
Are we fundamentally going to be different
once we become augmented, right?
If anybody's seen the Hulu show on FX,
Alien Earth does a very good job,
that series wrestling with this.
You have cyborgs, which are, you know,
obviously augmented humans.
You have these synths that have human consciousness
downloaded to them into new bodies
because they were terminally ill.
I think all these things are incredibly fascinating questions.
And if anybody hasn't read it yet, I'm a big fan of Red Phone Crypto.
What was it?
Red Phone Crypto is the account.
Old school Bitcoiner.
He does these end of year essays.
Last year, it's at the pin that's at the top of his profile.
It's called 33 Psalms.
Meditations on our metamorphosis.
And this is really what it's about,
these short kind of really tight couple paragraph,
you know, 50 words sometimes on just a topic.
And I've been expanding on them every day,
doing funky philosophical ponderings
or I write like maybe 300 to 500 words on this
each Psalm every day.
And I've been just really, really bugging out
about this stuff.
I don't know if I'd do it. If I did, I would certainly be a laggard, right? When you think about the sort of curve of
adoption, I would not be an early adopter, you know, unless it's time tested and proven,
you know, and maybe it extends my life. Sure. It also depends on my wife and what her situation is at that point in life.
But yeah, just it's riveting to watch.
And this has been an awesome conversation.
Yeah, I would.
I don't think I totally get and I may say it today.
I may have second thoughts when it actually gets there.
Like, I don't know if I would be the very first to adopt.
And even yourself, like you may not be what you would consider an early adopterter but just i'm going to guess you're going to be an earlier adopter than
the masses right like you may not be phase one but you're you're probably in that that second
third wave where before you know 100 you know of the homes in the in you know the world have one
of these things i think you'll probably be earlier than most.
Well, I guess I could be completely wrong.
And you're like, there's a lot of variables that are unknown today to even determine that.
But what was it again?
One more time, red what foam?
Red phone crypto.
Because back in the day before,
like you had exchanges in Britain,
I think you had these red phones
that were MoneyGram phones,
and people would call certain numbers.
Literally, in some of his essays,
he talks about giving people envelopes full of cash
to get Bitcoin back in the day.
He's that old school in terms of his legacy in the space.
I'll pin it up top so you can see it.
Awesome. I appreciate it.
That's hilarious.
I remember, I think it was Quit,
the dev who talks about his early days,
he'd meet up people at a Starbucks
and that's how they would buy and sell crypto,
buy and sell Bitcoin.
We've come a long way.
I lost the order of hands.
Let's go Jack and then Joey.
Oh, I missed it too.
I was looking at my screen.
So Joey, are you okay with me taking this
or who are you first?
No, I'm about to get to the gym.
I'll go real quick.
Yeah, go, go.
So back on the price thing real quick.
So for those of you that have ever worked
for corporate health, like corporate companies,
you get health insurance discounts
when you participate in 10,000 steps
and all these things. I believe, which is the announcement you saw about the full sales driving,
about how insurance companies are going to give you discounts if you have these things.
So if you agree to wear a specific watch or bracelet or something and give your data, you're going
to get health insurance discounts.
You're going to get homeowners insurance discounts because you have a robot in your home that
helps protect your home.
Like versus right now you get a homeowners discount if you have an alarm system, right?
So yes, they're going to be expensive, but I would wager you're going to get a lot of
that money back through discounts on your car insurance.
If you go with, you know, full self-driving on your health insurance, if you're wearing a health device where they can track how your health is performing on your homeowner's insurance.
Like all these, it's going to happen because they're going to be part of everyday life.
And we're seeing it already happen on on scales again, where you work for a corporate health insurance and they say, watch a video on why smoking is bad and you earn a point.
And at the end of the year, if you've earned 25 points, they save money on their group health insurance policy.
So, yes, it might be expensive, but expect there to be savings for for adopting all of this stuff.
Yeah, I agree. There's already savings,
lemonade's offering 50% off your car insurance rates if you're using full self-driving. Same
concept. If you have the equivalent of a physician living in your home, your health insurance might
come down. Almost every industry, I think, is going, I just, there, there's a lot of almost every industry I think
is going to be changed by AI automation, robots, et cetera.
I think a lot of people today are thinking like, Oh, what jobs is it going to replace?
It's, it's more than just jobs.
It's, it's the way our society operates and lives.
It's, we are rapidly moving into a, you know, a Jetsons-esque future.
Like I think as a kid watching Jetsons, I thought I'd already be here,
but if you really, you know,
if you zoom out a little bit,
we're pretty darn close to what is,
you know, what some of us thought
would have been, you know, very futuristic,
like the future, we're living in the future.
I did shout out to Funky,
that red phone crypto,
the Psalms he was referencing,
he dropped it in the chat.
I'll put it up top right now.
and then I'm going to show,
I'm going to show this,
this Google video.
If you missed it,
it is pinned up as well.
So if you haven't seen the video,
it's worth,
worth checking out,
later doing the deep dive.
I am curious if anyone has,
I know a lot of people have the,
a lot of people have the, uh, of people have the, you know, the,
the premium cloud or premium chat GPT.
I don't know if I know anyone that is using this Google AI ultra,
but here I'm sharing on screen. I'm going to, I have it. You do.
So have you, have you done this project genie yet?
Yep. It's cool.
The video is playing now.
We'll go right to Jonah next.
The TLDR is world creation starting with an image.
Like, take an image of...
I don't have it yet.
It probably might be something else I do this weekend.
Image and a character, not just an image.
I muted it.
I said image and a character, not just an image.
What do you mean by and a character?
So it's not as simple as taking a picture of my dog, or it is?
No, it's that simple.
But you'll explain the world you want with an image,
and then you can say the character is the dog or whatever.
Yeah, so there you go.
And you can choose between first person and third person.
So you can see here on the screen,
it's like it started as a dog,
and then you said change it to a balloon character.
It's just, this is...
So beyond the characters,
how, like, here's a bald eagle
how is the world building element?
I still think it has a ways to go
but if they do
what they think they can do
it replaces Roblox
and it basically becomes the metaverse.
So that's what I was going to ask
will it replace Roblox?
I know you've...
Not for a while.
Not for a fair bit of time.
Or is there a world where it doesn't replace Roblox,
but rather enhances it?
Makes it more...
I guess that's my question.
And second follow-up question of Roblox
would be something like OtherSide.
Like, is this tech, will they be able to leverage this tech
to build out worlds in Roblox or OtherSide,
or is this going to do it?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.
I don't know if it'll be through Project Genie,
but you can technically already do that through Claude,
and then Claude knows how to use Unity or Unreal.
It just, you know, it doesn't get everything correct.
It's wild.
Just wild.
I mean, I'm using AI coding now.
Not as much for Live Frame.
I have, like, a real dev team for that.
But I do a lot of side experiments.
Like, yesterday for fun
i built a trading bot on top of calci it was using the video data from liveframe and i'm
training it on the mention market traders as well as all the data that i think is useful for learning
these mention markets and i did it for fun yesterday. It made me 30 bucks.
How did it make you money? Just on trades?
I asked Claude to look at a live mention market and decide which guest position it should take.
And then it made the suggestion and I said, all right, well, you can put in a hundred bucks on my account because I had to use the API. And I said, I don't want you to sell
it at exact determination. I want you to sell it at 80%. The minute it hits 80%, sell it.
And so it created its own limit order. It called my own profile and used my own money
and it made the trade. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Pretty cool.
What else are you using?
Did you just get Google AI Ultra for Project Genie?
Or had you been using it?
No, I've had it for a while.
So here's the, like, what's included.
Project Genie, as you mentioned, Gemini app.
Flow, highest limits to AI filmmaking tool.
WISC, which is image video creation with VO3.
25,000 monthly AI credits across Flow and WISC.
Google Search, the highest access to Gemini 3 Pro model and more.
Notebook LM, again, highest access.
Because, you know, Notebook LM, there's a free version.
I'm guessing it's just a premium version.
Gemini email docs, vids, et cetera.
Again, highest limits because that's already baked in today.
What are you using it for beyond Project Junior?
What have you used it before Project Junior for?
Well, stuff related to LiveFrame.
I won't say too much about what I use it for,
but stuff, you know, I'm building an AI company.
I need to know, one, I need to use these models
for certain things, but also I need to understand,
you know, what they're being used for.
I mean, we use Gemini in our stack on LiveFrame already.
Gemini Power is part of our virality filter.
It doesn't do our core algorithm,
but we use part of Gemini for, for example,
when we do virality filter, Gemini is doing like the NLP.
And because Gemini is like a god computer,
we can translate any stream in the world.
So it doesn't matter if someone's talking in the stream in Japanese.
Our AI is going to understand that,
or at least the Gemini portion is going to understand that,
and it'll create a realistic score around that language
that we don't understand.
Just, just, my mind's kind of blown.
I mean, it's not like, knew this stuff was coming, knew some of this was already available,
but even just seeing like this here, and it's kind of maybe silly, but Google Home Premium
Advanced, 24-7 video history, event descriptions, and more.
And kind of like what I think it was Joey talking about earlier, just the thought of
like, smart homes are, like, it's like, I think we hit the moment, like smart homes, like haven't really
been smart. They've been automated. They call them smart homes. It's really just, you can automate
some things, connect it to your, maybe, maybe you connect it to your smartphone and then you can turn
your lights on or you can set it on by when you walk in, but not really intelligent homes, not
learning homes, just, just, you know,
easier to use and you can automate some stuff.
I feel like we're rapidly heading into like really smart homes and from, from safety to,
you know, I saw someone that was using, uh, open claw, what formerly known as Clawbot and Moltenbot or Moltbot, to where it knew when it woke up.
And as soon as the human woke up, it placed a DoorDash order for it.
I know that may be silly, but as a tech nerd, as a geek, as someone who's looked forward to this stuff, it's, I think, really exciting time to be alive and getting even more excited about how rapidly this stuff is coming online.
And Brick it all says, yeah, Georgia Jetson's three years old now and it's happening.
Yeah, I think we're really, really close to some pretty world-changing moments,
and there will be some, hopefully not too many,
but there's going to be some scary things as well.
Someone said earlier, you're going to give access,
something's going to blow up, something's going to,
hopefully not literally blow up,
but hopefully it's minimized.
Well, don't give it access to your main device.
I don't use MaltBot because I think it's far...
I'm going to tease Jack a little bit.
I told everyone you don't need a Mac Mini to do this.
So you can run MaltBot on a fucking Raspberry Pi.
You don't need a Mac Mini 1.
Two, I don't know if people realize this. You don't need a Mac Mini because. Two, I don't know if people realize this,
you don't need a Mac Mini because you can also do what's called a VM
which is a virtual machine.
And the other option is you can just create your own server
inside AWS and let it run in AWS.
Now, that being said, I don't use Claude on my main device
or let's say my work device. use Claude on my main device,
or let's say my work device.
I use it on my MacBook Pro, my laptop,
because I believe just full, cold hardware separation.
But no, you should.
I mean, for example, when I give it access to the Calci API,
it's using the money that's currently in the account of Kalshi.
I'm not giving it access to my bank account.
Now, technically, it could call my bank account through Kalshi to spend more,
but you put these limitations in.
You say, if this, then this.
This is like, I'll be stupid for a second.
If you know how to talk to an autistic child, you'll know how to use this bot.
I do think part of the reason to be paying attention to this stuff and experimenting with it now is learning how to communicate with it. It's different. And it's, I mean,
you can, you can hunt and peck your way, but it's kind of-
You have to talk to it like a kid with Asperger's.
Like, I have people like that in my family.
So I've grown up for years.
Those types of kids, they don't understand, like, one plus one is five, right? Like Like because we're illogical people, right? Like I
could make a case, even though it would be incorrect about why one plus one is five and a
normal human would, you know, they'd respond, they'd know it's a joke, all these things, right?
But someone with Asperger's or autism, they would just say, well, no, one plus one is two.
They don't take in external factors or they don't
really think about um consequences they just look at the at the very direct one plus one is two
and that's it so you have to you have to like prompt all these logical consequences in order
to frame a rule set for claude because claude is basically an autistic child that is a genius.
I think saying it is a genius is,
is probably pretty,
pretty accurate.
And it's only going to keep getting smarter and faster and hopefully easier
I'm not even joking
I'm ready to clear my schedule
and just really
really dive into
how can I be
better using these robots
I'm into it
I'm ready to embrace it
I'll be an early adopter of a humanoid robot
I don't need to wait for the humanoid robot though
there's a lot to do now
and there's so much beyond just using it to code
or vibe code
there's so many things that
it may sound
I think we're beyond
the beer app phase
of the app world
and smartphones
we're also beyond phase of the app world and smartphones,
we're also beyond simply using
just as a LLM, just as a chatbot.
Like, we far surpassed the era of just chatbots
when it comes to these AI agents and what they're capable of.
And I personally
really haven't. I haven't done much with it because I can order my own DoorDash. Is that
cool? Yeah, but I don't need that. I can go order DoorDash. I can go do a lot of these things that
are automated, but it's more so I want to continue to evolve my skills. I don't want to
get left behind because I do believe it is going to continue to advance so, so rapidly. And I
definitely don't think now's the time to be, you know, head in sand. I'll wait until it's perfect.
Like, I think it is a good idea to start becoming more and more familiar with this stuff now,
how to communicate with them and play around some of the different platforms.
Like, I don't know, probably not.
I don't have a, like, just looking at it,
I don't think I have a need to spring for the,
maybe 125, but 250 a month or something.
I'm not sure.
I'm going to start with one.
I'm going to start with the Cloud Premium plan
and then go from there.
Maybe something else,
Google comes out with something next month
that I've got to have.
Yeah, very,
very exciting time to be alive. Let's do this. So we've got about 18 minutes left until we hit 10. We lost some of the show today due to the technical challenges. Apologize again. We did
test it. We did tumble shoot pre-show. Everything was working, but we did not test X. And this is
where the disconnect fell off.
So from a video standpoint, as everyone could hear me just fine, there was something not working
properly when it comes to X. So I apologize for that delay this morning, but appreciate everyone
who battled through that and continue to hang out with us today. We'll be back to normal. We'll get
this thing dialed in before Monday morning. I saw Jack throw his hand us today. We'll be back to normal. We'll get this thing dialed in before Monday morning.
I saw Jack throw his hand up here.
We'll get to Jack,
and then we're going to announce
our first ever community member of the month.
It is of the month.
We do plan to do this on a monthly basis,
at least through the rest of the year,
so at least 12 of these,
and we'll see what kind of feedback
or if there's something else we should
do or maybe it's not that well received. But we'll have some little prizes. This first one
is going to be courtesy of the Ape Chain team, the ApeCoin Hub team. And we've got,
make sure my math is right, I want to say around $608, a little over $100 going to our first community member of the month.
And that, don't expect $100 every month, might be a little less, might be a little more, might be, I don't know, I don't see if Joey's still out there.
Might be like a busy claw pool or something.
But more so than the prize, it just is an opportunity for us to, we see you.
We really do appreciate all the support.
It's not just the GMs and the retweets and the bookmarks and the subs and joining the newsletter.
Several of you, especially as we've asked for it this month, we've solicited feedback and ideas.
What would you like to see on the show?
How can we get better?
Several of you have reached out and given, you know, really great ideas to both Payne,
myself, and some we're going to be implementing.
Some we've already implemented some small tweaks and changes.
And that is appreciated.
You know, it's appreciated when, you know, we have a, you know, we're talking about a
subject where I'm not the subject matter expert and one of you pings a you know a team lead or a founder and that
next thing we know we're talking with the founder or the subject matter expert on a particular
topic because you guys all you you help co-produce that that episode you you brought in the um you
know you you added value to the conversation, either directly or indirectly by way of an expert.
And it really is a community show.
It's been a community show from the jump.
We continue to lean into that.
And maybe even more so this year from, you know, as we go from a show that I co-host with Steve, nearly a thousand episodes together.
We went over a thousand episodes, but we weren't, both of us, on all of those.
But we'll say a thousand for easy math to more of the solo hosting.
But with the solo hosting is really relying on
conversations like this morning, where several of you jump up and join the conversation, add value to the conversation
and really enjoying where we're at and excited about where we're heading.
So before you head out of here, don't leave because one of you is going
to be winning that first community member of the month and leaving here with a few extra hundred ape in your wallet heading into the weekend.
Again, shout out to the Ape Chain team.
It's not a sponsored show today.
sponsored show um today this is not we're just they they've supported us in the past and we
talked about what is uh you know what can we do for our community member of the month and
wanted this this just made a logical sense as they've been one of our bigger partners historically
to um to uh you know pay it forward so it's it's a little over $608,
a little over $100 USD will go to our first
community member of the month.
We may do more with it,
but more so than the prize,
it's just a small
way for us to acknowledge
small token of our appreciation
for all that you do
to help the show.
Jack, go ahead,
and then we will announce
our first community member of the
month yeah look uh i now need another ai product so jonah thank you thank you for that um but at
least i've already got the mac mini to to put it all on now um i don't know you know our friend
alex um finn like previously nft god if you know you know that he he seemed to be pretty bullish on the mac
mini as as the option to you know keep things separate and now i think he's even gone and got
the the pro version of the like 10 000 pound version of this thing so um no i'm joking yeah
no it was a complete waste probably if i if i didn't just want an excuse to buy another Apple product
by all means yeah there's definitely probably cheaper ways
out there. Cap I just want to say
I'm so with you on like spending
the weekend just trying to
figure this out, figure this
product out, figure
how it speaks to each other hopefully
before I hit consensus so it can
help me a little bit on the back end and alert
me to shit so I
don't you know lose all of my day just at events because that's always the way right IRL and then
you don't network properly you forget people so that's that's what I'm gonna initially focus it
on is just like okay I'm gonna go to IRL events I'm terrible at connecting on telegram or anywhere
else um I will still have shows that i've got to run so make
sure that you're alerting me there because hong kong is like 12 hour difference from the uk um
just all of these like little things that i'll be setting up so yeah yeah that's that that was my
only final thoughts i love it man well keep me posted let me know once you figure out the most
way to be efficient at these events i didn't think about that pain we might have to i know we're talking to you know actually had a conversation yesterday with a uh sponsor we way to be efficient at these events. I didn't even think about that. We might have to, I know we were talking,
we actually had a conversation yesterday with a
sponsor we hope to be announcing here soon
and talked
about potentially doing some in-real-life events together
this year, some that they're attending
that we may link up
and thinking about from just
a production standpoint, video
cameras and what we need.
While I can certainly,
certainly you can justify the,
nice DLSR,
real nice video camera.
you just even hear you say that,
maybe the Metaglasses are the way to go.
I've not owned a pair yet,
Mine arrive tomorrow cap.
I'll let you know.
And you'll see some like this is a
newer like i saw some demos of the like the first generation second generation maybe this is the
what what's right for you is is one that just dropped recently is that right or it's the second
gen so i think it's slightly newer but i actually have no idea in terms of when it it launched
it's about 700 bucks i'm excited to hear what you think of it and
hopefully it goes better than my new
Rodecaster. This is a duo, by the
way, that I added. So I like the footprints a little smaller.
I'm sure the Rodecaster's fine. I'm sure it's
user error on my part and
I'm again going to shout him out.
He's not our community member of the month, but he is
my Rodecaster
Guru of the Month year life as Mr. Chris, Mr. Fly Ride.
If we can't get this solved ourselves, we'll be tapping into his brain to figure out what's plugged in wrong or what setting's wrong.
We'll be back in rare form come Monday morning.
But this is, I am excited.
I did not cover this, Machiavelli.
Before we, I'm going to keep everyone on the,
I'm going to keep everyone waiting.
I saw this, but did not cover it.
It's actually perfect because we have Jack up here.
Jack, did you see this?
I'll pin it up top, and then I'll do the screen share here
because this is, um,
Figgy and the other side team,
the Yuga team is leaning into oranges and spaceships or apples and
spaceships.
Did anyone listen to the playback?
Do we know which way of which,
what did Jack actually say?
So I can go with the other one,
whether it's oranges and spaceships or apples and spaceships.
this is happening in,
in other side. Machiavelli, tell us what we missed i saw the video i don't fully understand so essentially
they're opening up the vibe coding to add mls and and just you know kind of further the experience
and start to create different things uh in the other side and so testing will begin uh very
shortly for those that are tagged in the post and stuff like that and then uh it once we
you know break it and they fix all the bugs and do all the things then uh you're about to see
that world change and and go in a whole nother direction as well i think like this is the getting
a step closer to being able to create those experiences that rival any other platform and
stuff like that because you know like if you see the example in the video you know they create a rocket ship that takes off straight for things and then directive uh creator
has actually utilized it in the open platform where he actually set the rocket in the middle
of the walkway of the nexus and having it take off like is actually in game and stuff like that
so like i think that you're about to see this little thing of ours uh exponentially change
not only for the type of experiences that we can have and handle and stuff like that.
But like, you know, it should pique the interest and, you know, see if it grows this little bit of this community of ours and stuff like that.
Very cool.
So like one step closer, you know what I'm saying?
Like it's it's one of those things we've been waiting for this.
We heard about it.
You know what I mean?
There was there was rumblings of it.
And, you know, it's coming this next month. So I couldn't be more excited to get to be a part of the test group
but also you know let's see where this experience goes let's see how we elevate this thing and uh
yeah man each one reach one teach one thank you for having me up cap thanks for letting me share
that yeah appreciate you sharing and yeah this is very very exciting kind of like what as jonas
said like we weren't sure if it's going to be Project Genie. And this isn't exactly Project Genie, but similar in the sense that the ability to not just create assets in these worlds, but do so with near just human language.
You know, just say what you want and it's going to build the thing.
Like, pretty incredible.
Pretty incredible. Pretty incredible.
And I'll say it again.
This is like the top of the first inning.
This stuff, now that we're here, here, it's going to move so fast.
It's going to advance so fast.
And that was my earlier question.
Is Project Genie something like that?
Is that bearish or bullish
for things like Roblox and other side?
I think it's bullish.
I think it's just,
I always had this vision in my head
that while I'm not a coder,
I'm not going to go build out seven other deeds.
I thought we'd get to a point where,
while I may not be able to do that
or willing to learn all those skills
and how to code all that.
I think we're not too far off from a robot building it out on my behalf. And theoretically,
we're pretty much there in terms of telling it what I want to see, telling it what I want to do.
Now, it's your limitations on what you can build, at least virtually, is your creativity.
What you can think of, it's pretty soon you're going to be able to build that, whether it's a game, whether it's an app.
It's just, I really wonder.
I know most of us here are probably, we consider ourselves tech forward or we are on the bleeding edge of tech and we talk about it often.
We're pretty connected to this stuff. And then even I think adjacent to us, there's probably a lot of people
on X and in this app, they're the chronically online group that you see all this stuff and
you're hearing the cloud bots. But I really wonder, like if you go,
you say you go to the mall and survey a hundred people, you go to Costco this weekend and you
survey a hundred people, I don't know this weekend and you survey a hundred people.
I don't know exactly what you'd ask them, but I really am curious, like, did they,
how many actually realize, and I don't even fully realize how we're really where we are,
but how many of those people have any idea this stuff is happening today? How many,
your average American in this case really knows how advanced some of this stuff has become.
And I think you kind of see it with some of the reactions when they realize that AI video is what it is today and what people are doing there.
Like jaw-dropping moments that we've been seeing for a while.
It's just, you talk about critical mass and this stuff, the masses becoming aware of this stuff. We're here today. And I think for the
most part, it's a very small group of people that's experimenting with this stuff. I think
that's the other thing. Not only will the tech get better and easier to use and just smarter and
more intelligent, I think you're going to 10x the number of people that are using it. Therefore,
again, it's going to learn so much faster. It's like, you know, not to be cheesy, but you want to talk about flywheels, like this AI evolution flywheel between, you know, the,
the humans training it, the AI is learning and training the humans. Like we all as a collective,
us and the robots could get a lot faster or a lot, you know, a lot more intelligent,
uh, very fast. Uh, before I go community member of the month, sorry,
it's not you, but I will give you a shout out because, man, this guy, he's like, you guys can
have the robots. I'm going to keep my horse. What a stud muffin. When I grew up and retire,
I'm jealous of the beard. I'm not envious of most people, but I'm jealous of the dark beard.
Just what a stud muffin. What this is, you know, what do they say about what ride a cowboy?
Um, I, I say that in the most, uh, heterosexual way I can, but what a, what an absolute stud muffin
is that Diablito? Uh, shout out to our, our, uh, uh, uh, our in-house cowboy, if you will.
Save a horse, ride a Diablito.
There you go.
So Director Creative said,
first time hearing about this,
learning day, MML, day 957,
vibe coding in MML.
Okay, but now make it sloptimized,
object generation and sideload.gg next week.
Like this is what Machiavelli was explaining earlier.
Here's the video of it. This is in other side, right?
Am I understanding this right? This isn't like a rendering he did.
He did this in other side or not?
Yeah, he did that in other side locally from, from his thing,
but it's going to open up to us this coming week for all,
for those on that list to do that and start creating experiences.
And then, yeah, once we, you know, the whole point is for us to break it,
you know what I mean? And try to see what the test, the limits of it. Um,
and then that way that they can, you know,
fix it and get it ready for public use. And so, you know, I'm, that's,
that's what I'm most excited about is like, you know,
what kind of experiences are these people going to be? And then, you know,
this, this opens up a lot of doors and a lot of windows,
like for governing and stuff like that, because, you know, we don't want inappropriateness or you know what i mean like i'm sure there's gonna be a world for
that eventually but like you know i'm just excited for this to to be kicking off at this point of our
journey and uh you know like like with us bringing in the improbable team then buying the tech and
all that stuff and kind of bringing in in-house I think that we're going to see this speed up exponentially.
And, you know, there's a lot of, I just, let's see,
let's see what the next 60 days look like.
I think that that's, that's, what's also important.
See what happens in the next 60 days.
Yeah. It's, it's, it's going to be fun time, fun time to be here,
fun time to be on chain and experimenting and building.
And while not all AI is on chain yet,
I think it is where the agents are going to transact. I think
that the blockchain tech, for many reasons, is going to be at that intersection. And it's also
just a great group of people to learn with. Like, never believe you're going to have questions.
Can you go ask Claude or your Claude bot or ChatGPT some of the answers? Yeah, but I think it's also
helpful to speak with other humans and find out how they're using this stuff. And one of the humans that I'm not sure how deep she is in
in CloudBot or Cloud or AI, but someone you definitely want to have in your corner,
someone you definitely need to be connected to, our first ever community member of the month
on Coffee with Captain. I pinned a post up top. If you've not yet seen it,
head up top, scroll in through the left. This is Teacher Katie's post yesterday.
You're never too important to be nice to people. I agree wholeheartedly, and I felt fitting to share
as not only is she helpful for the show, she's provided paying myself a lot of great feedback
and ideas this month. She's not only always in the chats in
the morning, GMing, helping us get things warmed up even before we ask, just having had the pleasure
of meeting her in person, just really a kind individual. Her bio isn't just a bio and she
talks about kindness, empathy, and communication. Every interaction I've had with her is just that.
She's someone who is a leader
amongst leaders and I don't know I've not spent a ton of time with her but the times I have it's
like she's someone it's it's hard not to be happy it's hard not to have a smile on your face she
just she exudes kindness and I think is I'd love to say, indicative of the community that we have built here together.
I'm grateful for all of you, especially so many of you that are just good human beings.
And as much as it's funny, we've been talking robots all day, that human interaction is still going to be important.
I think it's going to be increasingly important. And it's, I think we're decades, if not centuries
I think it's going to be increasingly important.
off before robots replacing that human connection element. And again, very grateful to have people
like Katie, part of the community. It's people like Katie that make this show so special because
it's the community that is special. And it's not just the GMs and the connecting us with
subject matter experts, but it's love showing up every day.
Cause it's people I enjoy hanging out with people. I enjoy talking to, even though we don't get Katie
on the stage that often. And she's not, um, you know, not someone you see on video that often
or jumps in and actually joins the audio spaces. I can't remember the last time she wasn't in the
audience. It would be a weird morning if she's not out there.
Mel's always are mostly, most often our first GM in the audio spaces. Katie's most often the first GM in the abstract spaces. And it's so much more than that. That's something that's easy to
see, easy to quantify. But there's so many other interactions that we witnessed in the chat that
don't get the chance to call everyone out or call attention to everyone, but just very helpful.
And it's, I would say, especially if you're in the vFriends community or you have a question there, like she would be like, you know, Jeremy's out there who's on the vFriends team.
you know jeremy's out there who's on the vfriends team also very helpful great resource
Also very helpful, great resource.
katie's one of those that i you know i have like some core memories from vcons of just
her being that i don't know i don't know the proper word to describe her because it would
probably be doing an injustice but a leader amongst leaders is really like that vfriends
community is is strong a lot of great people.
And there's probably not a single vFriend community member that isn't aware of Katie and knows how great of a person she is.
So Katie, thank you very much for all you do.
Greatly appreciate you being here every day, supporting the show.
Greatly appreciate the feedback you've given Payne and myself this month and the connections you've helped us make and very much so deserve to be
a community member of the month, 1.01.
There's several of you that are deserving of this
and we've got at least 11 more months to go.
Maybe this is something we continue forever,
but at least for 2026,
we're going to pick a community member of the month
and we'll have a prize.
It may not be 610 April,
it may not be the equivalent of $100 every month,
maybe a little more, maybe it's a little little less maybe it's a call pull or something
along those lines we'll have a little prize just but again that's the really the smaller
piece of it the bigger piece is just really wanting to recognize acknowledge some of the
people who make coffee with captain what it is and uh we we truly wouldn't be here if it wasn't
for all for this community and uh each and every one of you are make it make the collective, make it what it is.
And it's also you talk about surrounding yourself with like minded individuals and and enjoying what you do by enjoying the people you spend time with.
It is people like Katie that make it such a pleasure to to here and hang out with all of you every Monday through Friday.
Katie, congratulations.
Well-deserved.
I could go on and on, but I don't want to put too much pressure on you.
But truly, if you haven't given Katie a follow yet, you're missing out.
Go give her a follow.
her a follow. Go give that post yesterday some love. And if you ever had a chance to meet Katie
Go give that post yesterday some love.
at a, whether it's a future VCon or any other in real life event, buy her a coffee. I'm sure you
would find value in the time you get to spend with her. So Katie, thank you very much. Really
appreciate you. Appreciate all the support, everything you do and stay tuned for more
Coffee with Captain community members of the month. We, this may evolve into something more.
I don't know. No real expectations.
This is just something that are, again,
a small token of our appreciation,
a way for us to give back a little bit.
But we are excited to do some new plans with coffee
as we move forward.
Hopefully part of those new plans involve
less troubleshooting on the tech side,
but that's on me.
I'll get it figured out this weekend and really do appreciate y'all power through that with me this morning.
I saw proof out that he flew up.
Any closing words, final thoughts before we let everyone get out of here?
I just wanted to say if you haven't already employed the idea of putting a badge with that community member of the month
and, you know, game and fun with that, or, you know,
even incentivizing or what have you,
that's an idea, if it
makes sense. Say that again?
To give a badge,
like a badge for a community
member of the month. OP badge.
Yeah, yeah, and
incentivize that in some regard,
if that makes sense. does make sense i appreciate
the suggestion let me let me ask and i'll talk with pain after the show um what's your like
in that what you just described would you okay just the community month it's just one badge it's
just a one-on-one and this month katie would get it next month someone else would get it or
do you view that as a like a collectible badge and month, it's Katie's badge and everyone that's here can collect it if they want.
What are your – do you have any thoughts on that? Is it a one-of-one? Do we make it an open mint that anyone here and wants to support Katie?
You can go mint the badge. What are your thoughts there? I like the i'm just i'm trying to shake it out i would say i would say a one-on-one because you that just that means that's how much special
much more special that person is and then kind of incentivize around those you know to make
something like a sorry i'm in my kitchen i'm in here washing bitches so that's that noise behind
me but yeah some type of uh any type of uh maybe even make it an open
donation where people might say hey you know what this person was they did contribute to the show
hey let me just tip them you know leave the tips the tip jar around and you know something like
that just to just to show that that person is appreciated just you, a token of appreciation and for lack of a better term.
Yeah, I am a great idea.
I mean, simple.
Like I said, you all make the show, right? Like the feedbacks, the suggestions, it's when our appreciation is far beyond just the support of the show and warming up the show and the likes repost.
It's stuff like this.
We definitely don't have all the answers. And while we could chat with AI and come up with some new ideas, we really do greatly appreciate any and all these suggestions.
We probably can't implement every single suggestion you throw our way, but something like this is, yeah, great idea.
Like, I'm kind of like, oh, should have thought of that.
I should have done a badge for Katie.
Katie, we're going to get you a one-on-one badge at minimum.
Katie, we're going to get you a one-on-one badge at minimum.
And maybe nothing else comes from it.
And maybe nothing else comes from it.
But that's in addition to your ApeCoin, we're going to spin up another page badge for you.
And you can mint that as well as an additional commemorative piece for your love and support of Coffee with Captain.
Thanks for coming up.
No obligation, no pressure.
I'm not going to force you to make a speech or anything but uh appreciate you truly appreciate you um paying myself and i'll speak on
behalf of the community you're just you're a um you might my description my introduction it won't
do it justice you're just a warm personality that it's it uh you you add value to this show day in
and day out far more than i think you realize
and uh greatly appreciate being here great you push out all the support and i'll hate you to
the mic it's yours no obligation again i didn't i wasn't trying to put pressure on you're making
you're obligated to to uh uh give a speech or anything but no congratulations well deserved
couldn't think of a better a more deserving community member of the month to kick this
thing off and any do you have any ideas, anything that you think,
now that you're knowing you're winning this first one,
any thoughts on the program, any ideas that you might suggest
for what we could grow this into, what we should do,
in addition to a little prize and maybe a badge?
Well, first off, I wasn't going to come up because I'm in tears right now
because I'm so appreciative of you, Chris, and the whole show.
I've done so much learning, like you've helped me learn.
And that's why I'm here every day.
But thank you so much.
I really do appreciate the recognition.
I love to come here every day.
The community is awesome.
But I have some suggestions, but I'm going to put them in the DMs.
Payne and I have been going back and forth.
But just thank you very much.
I appreciate being recognized.
Everybody wants to be seen.
And I'm happy to be the first community member.
So thank you so much.
No, thank you.
Truly appreciate it.
Very well deserved.
And like I said, there's several of you that are deserving of this acknowledgement, this recognition, this award, whatever you want to call it.
And many of you will.
And several of you are deserving this month.
I think the why behind what Katie did differently, I'm not just making this up.
Payne's in the green room here, nodding his head.
A lot of suggestions. Connected with some people that we're probably going to have on the show in
the near future. And we asked for suggestions. We got a lot of great feedback, a lot of great
ideas, and some of that we're implementing. So it's like beyond just showing up every day and
helping, it really is helping push the show forward, become a better show. And as we aspire to grow this thing beyond crypto Twitter, beyond YouTube, and aspire
to create content that can help bring more people into this space, into this community,
it is ideas from the community.
It's people like Katie that help make that possible.
And just we talked about our learning curve
accelerating by this AI feedback loop.
We're going to grow the show
and accomplish a lot more with,
if it's not just painting myself,
brainstorming, what can we do to improve the show?
What can we do that our audience would like
and like to see?
I think we get through that a lot faster
by working with all of you.
And it's not,
I don't want you to feel like there's no pressure. If you just want to listen and passively every day and never comment or
never give the feedback or suggestion, that's cool as well. We appreciate all of you.
That said, if you are, if you have ideas and you'd like to share something, don't be shy.
Like we would never take any offense to it. All I'd ask is don't take offense. If you give us an
idea and we don't implement it or more likely we may implement it, but it might be six months from now because
I just don't move that fast sometimes. And we got a few other things on the tick list, but
in all seriousness, don't be shy. Don't hesitate. I will speak for pain. We won't take offense to
anything. Whether it's something you'd like to see or you hate something. If we introduce a new segment, you're like, this is dumb. That jingle is awful. Please change it. Let us know.
I mean, the good, the bad, the ugly. If it is something that you hate, my only ask there would
just come with it with a constructive idea. Like what's a potential solution? How might we fix it?
That would be my only ask is if you're going to beat us up over something, just tell us how
you think we might be able to get better.
And I see Shippen popped in out there as well.
Shippen, we didn't even talk about this,
but thank you.
Thank you and the ApeCoin team.
We made an executive decision.
We selected our first community member of the month,
Teacher Katie here on stage with us.
And part of that award and recognition is
she's going to get a badge,
a one-on-one badge on OpenPage from her friends over there.
And as well as about $610, $800 worth of ApeCoin to maybe go play around another side with some of this new stuff that's happening due to this advancement in AI.
But really appreciate all of our community members, Katie and the hundreds, the thousands of others, as well as our sponsors out there.
Like I said, this was not a sponsored gig.
This was not a sponsored bit.
We truly didn't even, Ben can attest.
We didn't even talk to ApeCoin or the ApeChain team about this.
We just, as we, you know, Peyton and I were talking, what can we do in addition to the recognition and acknowledgement?
What can we do in addition to the recognition and acknowledgement?
And as ApeChain and the ApeCoin team has been a great partner of ours for years, multiple campaigns, it just made sense that that would be one of the first ways we could pay it forward a little bit is include some ApeCoin.
I alluded like, you know, we'll potentially do a BC call poll in the future.
I haven't talked to Joey or Andrea or anyone on the team about that. It's just, we likely will do that even if they're not interested. We are truly appreciative of
all of our partners and those that have went above and beyond for us. And that's how we would
love to add value beyond any paid engagement or any contractual engagements. If there's ways for
us to continue to highlight and promote and amplify partners of ours, we're happy to do so. And when we talk about partners over sponsors,
might we do a one-off sponsor interview from time to time? Might Reach or one of the agencies
connect us with someone that wants to come on for an interview? We will. We're still being
selective with that stuff. But our strong preference is not transactional sponsorships,
but rather relationship partners that we can work with over many months and gives us even a
greater opportunity to continue to amplify and add value beyond whatever contractual campaign
we agree to, or whatever campaign we agree to contractually, or whatever that agreement looks
like. If there's opportunities that someone's talking about
open worlds and metaverses, well, guess what? I'm going to talk about other side.
Do I hold bags there? Yes. But it's also builders that I want to support. They're doing the thing.
They're taking a big swing and I want to amplify them. And they're not paying me to say that.
It's just, I think it's how the world works and business works, especially as the human or the humanoid
robots and the AI bots, you know, come in more and more areas of our lives. I think, uh, remembering
who the humans are that, uh, helped us get to where we are is very important. So again, Katie,
thank you so much. Truly appreciate you. And, um, I will either hit myself or paint up
with a good EVM wallet, a good Ape Chain wallet,
and we'll get that Ape over to you
as well as the link to mint that badge.
And maybe if you've got an idea
of what you'd like to see on the badge,
that'll be the next thing.
We may work with AI to create the same badge every month.
Maybe we pull your PFP into it.
Open to ideas. We will crowdsource
what that one-of-one badge
from OpenPage looks like. So if you have any
ideas or anything you'd like to see, you get to
drive the ship since it's
the first one here. Go ahead, AlphaDGN.
I was just going to say, Cap,
I love this show, bro. I love what you
do. And I love that
for the community member of the month. So I'll
see your 108 to go to her and help you 108.
So we'll make it 208.
So give me your, send me your wallet.
And I'll send you the 108 that you can add to her, to her pie.
Very kind.
Very kind.
Didn't have to do that.
Thank you so much.
Greatly appreciated.
Thank you very much.
and um yeah we get all that connected we'll get that ape over to you today and um uh so it ends
And yeah, we had all that connected.
We'll get that Ape over to you today.
up being like 610 ape uh courtesy of us by way of the ape chain team and then uh alpha dgen's
coming over top so be a little over 700 to you know good amount to to play around with and and
coming soon in the world of uh other side is uh some poker so i don't know if you're a poker fan
or not katie but but Texas hold them is,
is coming very soon.
I think it's going to be some play money at first,
but I'm excited to,
to gamble some real chips and really point over there.
And really,
really looking forward to that.
But Doris shared something to chat.
I'll leave you all with this.
another great member of that community says,
I've been thinking about robots recently. And we may have
to have Avi come on and talk about what he's building. He says, I've been thinking a lot
about how people will actually adopt humanoid robots, not demos, not videos, actually living
with one. So he started an experience to make that possible called Robot Rental Company,
rental company bringing humanoid robots in real homes,
bringing humanoid robots in real homes, short-term rentals with white glove setups,
short-term rentals with white glove setups,
experiment, experience the future before committing.
And yeah, like, is this, like, now I'm really curious.
Like, I can't imagine that this is actually, like,
live and real yet, but I'm really intrigued.
It looks as if you might have
access to the humanoid robot that you can rent
and do a trial. Okay, so here it is.
Limited availability starting
July of 2026. Happens
to be my birthday month. Avi, if you're looking for a...
I'm going to
shoot my shot before I even talk to you about it.
Speaking of partners and sponsors,
Coffee with Captain... we may have to do a Coffee with Captain community member of the month and maybe a Coffee
with Captain robot of the month or a humanoid robot of the month. I'm looking ahead here a
little bit, but I will be requesting a home trial. And that's what I want for my birthday this year
is a humanoid robot. There I said it. In all seriousness, thank you all for being here.
Again, big congrats to Katie.
Thank you so much for all you do.
Far beyond the show, just being a refreshing human
in the world of crypto and web three,
this space gets a lot of bad rap,
some bad PR at times to time.
And while I, you know, did I come here for the people?
I didn't know.
I came here for Top Shot and Zed and then Minutes and Apes.
But it's absolutely the people of Web3 that has not only kept me here, but I've never thought about stopping the show once we started because I truly love interacting with all of you.
And it doesn't feel like work because I enjoy it.
It truly is like having coffee with my friends every morning and it can't tell you how much it means to me that
you all want to spend some time with with with me every morning so thank you all so much appreciate
y'all shout out to katie go give her some love give her a follow if you haven't yet done so
and enjoy your weekends it's going to be an interesting one we didn't talk a whole lot of
markets today but that's probably a good thing uh things kind of bled out and uh hopefully we
bounce this weekend uh it's i know one thing it's kind of bled out and hopefully we bounce this weekend.
I know one thing.
It's either going to go up, it's going to go down, or it's going to chop.
That's what we'll see this weekend.
Hopefully more chop or up and less down.
But be safe out there.
Don't put any money in the code for to lose.
If you're opening up longs or shorts, be near your computer.
Things are moving aggressively in both directions, not just crypto, but gold and silver and you name it.
It's a very, very volatile market right now. So if you have open trades, don't go too far away
and don't overextend yourself. Have some fun. Maybe take the weekend off and go play around
with CloudBot or OpenClaw or Google AI Ultra
or go hang out on the other side a little bit
and get ahead of what's coming in there with the
new robot. So with that note,
thanks again, everyone. Appreciate you bearing with us
through the opening tech issues. We'll have that all resolved Monday.
We'll be back Monday morning, 8 a.m. Eastern time
and as Steve would say, we hope you all have a wonderful,
wonderful weekend, everyone. . Thank you.