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Up Good Only 🚀 (Wanchain Exploit)
Recorded: July 20, 2026 Duration: 2:21:15Space Recording
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what's
Oh my gosh. What up, motherfuckers? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Make a net. Hey,
what am I gonna eat today? And what the fuck is going on, Playboy? Yo, Johnny Five, can you hear me?
Thumbs up if you can hear me. Thumbs down if you can't. So I know my current status. Holy shit!
So, my boy. What's up? Can you hear me? Yeah, man. Just doing the thing. How about you? Good. Yeah,
I just got done with my, you know, my regular business stuff, and now I am firing up a space
because I'm gonna work on organizing my life for what's to come and work on my Web three stuff
for the day. So, saa, dude, chillin. So I was gonna order some tacos or some shit and get a beer.
You know, how you doing? For me, good, man. I'm working on a couple hackathons. Hatatino, hatatino.
What do I get? Vampiros, huh? Vampiros, queso tacos, mulitas. Mulitas sound good to me.
Whatever that is, to me that's Playboy. Hell yeah. Ojo. What's up, my boy? Oh, hello. Good.
How are you? Awesome. Um, ¿qué es una mulita? Una mulita son dos dos tortillas, queso,
cebollas y cilantro y la carne que se quiera. Es como un taco pero flat. Ajá,
son dos tortillas en concreto como un sandwich. Ajá. Okay. So instead of that, it's that. Okay.
Yeah, give me one, one, one order of that of the mullets of. Asada. Yeah. Ah. Something else.
Oh yeah. Um. What? It's like what size? Yes. Yeah. What size, please? Oh,
we're going to have to two. Two mullets of that. Asada. Ah. That's it. Please.
What's
up? What's up, big connect? Oh, I already see RZA showing up. I already know what time it is.
I already know what time it is when RZA shows up. There's a strong case for FUD.
What's the what's the what's the what? Big connect. Hold on, RZA connect. RZA connection for sure.
RZA showed up because he's ready to fight, bro. That's a good. That's a little blood in the water.
So he's like, hmm. Let's go, Sanka. Also, no, I'm not gonna bring you up. I'm sorry.
I control the stage. Fresh motherfucking jar peanut butter and a fresh motherfucking jar
of raspberry preserves. I'm gonna spread that shit on some tortillas and I'm gonna eat that shit
for lunch. You're gonna, you're gonna big connect, right? Yeah, bro. Ten seconds in, I want to.
You put them on the popcorn cakes. Popcorn cakes. I don't even know what that is. I mean, rice cake.
Uh, yeah, it's like a rice cake, but it's made with popcorn, and then you put the jelly
and the peanut butter, and there's almost no carbs to it, but it gives you that crunch.
It's delicious. Let's go. Never had a popcorn cake. I've had rice cakes. It sounds very similar.
Let me let me look up popcorn cake. Okay, let me. I'm just gonna engagement firm, I guess.
One chain. Yeah. Export. Okay. I think it's so cool that you use raspberry preserves too,
because I do too, man. I love them with the seeds. I think you might be thinking of rice cakes,
not popcorn cakes. I don't think that's a thing. Who's eating rice cakes? I really want to know.
I like rice cakes. I like the caramel-flavored rice cakes, but those aren't like those are
a bit different, you know, like covered in caramel. You might as well have caramel corn, right?
Anyway, what's up, futurism? In the last one hour, did you guys switch to a like Discord
or something? I mean, obviously, I understand we were following up the the exploit with blockchain,
but where'd you guys go? They ditched their ass, bro. Esco Esco said, "Good night, sleep tight.
Don't let the leverage bugs bite." Well, I don't know. We're gonna squeeze the shit out of John.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Thing is, I I've spent way too much time in this space,
building friendships, relationships, all sorts of things that. You know what I mean?
I know what to do when I need to do what I need to do and where to go where I need to go, bro. So,
you know, what I can say is now you all know what time it is because it's been
it's been formally announced. It is a, you know, I I don't even know the technical details
because it all got bit connected, bro. It got it got bit connected. It is a you know
the the one chain W A N one chain bridge. So they over there had some technical difficulties
with a gray hat. With the black hat, obviously they had a run-in with the black hat,
and it's for them to resolve. I'm just glad that it wasn't on the main metaverse.
You know what I mean? That would have not been good for us, or the, you know, we already saw Riza.
When does Riza show up? When does Sanka show up? The only when there's blood in the water.
There's no charming ass, but your mother always pull up when there's blood in the water. The fuck.
So you already know what time it is. So I know how to mitigate this shit. You see,
you see how I play defense. I play my strong blitz. I played the Blitz. I knew exactly. I was like,
Blitz, Blitz out of here. So you know, people start coming up with all the conspiracies and shit.
Like nah, bro. There's actually a massive amount of comments in the Discord section.
Probably thousands and thousands of comments. But if they were to pull up here,
it will be interesting. Mm-hmm. Yo, did Cardano ever get that millions of fucking ADA back?
Millions of ADA back. Ah, that you take it up with second fight. I'm still,
I'm still wondering where the bounty or the where that where the Bitcoin
is going to be deposited for the ransom or whatever, you know. I don't know. No one got their money.
No one got their money. Thank God. I know because they owe him a fucking DM. You know what's crazy?
You know what's a little crazy? The potential that, like, the potential of that being
their own money is way more likely to. But anyway, being their own money. I don't know.
I'm just saying random shit, bro. But what's up? How are you doing, bro? Yeah, good, man. Good.
So you smell blood. So how can how may I help you at the of good only one chain exploit space? Well,
I do I do want to talk to Riley, but I'll do that later. But um. I don't know.
I just think it's fucking funny to be honest. What's what's funny? What's funny
about people losing money? This time you can't blame it on Charles. I'm surprised. What's funny?
What's funny? Everyone should have fucking. Everyone knows what happens on BNB. Everyone knows,
right? And so the One Chain Bridge got audited by two Cardano smart contract development platforms,
and it still got fucking hacked. Who who audited them, Riza? Anastasia Lab and TX Pipe.
They both audited the Cardano Bridge. Oh. Bnb is fucking cooked, bro. I don't know why it's got
any value. It shouldn't. Like usually, like Bnb gets hacked constantly. Like it's twenty four
seven gets hacked. But most hacks are for like a couple of grams, and they usually go up
to like maybe a hundred, but less, because people know they'll get caught, so they just do
little ones. That's how weak it is. Like hackers literally just scan through fucking um, DeFi,
and just look for smaller um, tokens and platforms on Bnb and just hack them.
Like it's that easy for them. I read I read that thread too. So don't you wait. Mhm. And so, yeah,
I don't know. People are fucking retarded, to be honest. It slides under the radar because it's like
a little bit. Nobody's gonna like put all that effort for like sub 100k. Actually, yep.
It's fucking retarded. But yeah, fucking. It's pretty cocked. It's pretty fucking stupid.
I don't know. There has been a solid liquidity push between 1.5 cents and 1.7 cents,
and and the person that has the wallet keeps on dumping through million every ten minutes.
Like people are getting fucked, right? Yeah. Okay,
I actually are converting to USDC. Once the bridge like block, then when they try to bridge.
Well, they've been selling the stablecoins that they get into ADA, so.
They're not even trying to bridge out of ADA. It doesn't look like they're accumulating all
of the ADA into a separate wallet. I love crunchy peanut butter. Crunchy peanut butter is
the best kind of peanut butter, guys. And if you disagree with me, it's because you're
objectively wrong. Peanut butter, huh? Oh, peanut butter, bad. No, no. You're objectively wrong.
Objectively wrong. You should have just agreed with my sentiment. You could have still said
that you thought it was bad later, but you could have agreed with me first, okay?
I said objectively first. Yeah, but my statement was still correct, and you tried to to make
it sound like my statement was somehow conflicting with your statement.
I didn't agree with your statement, but that doesn't mean you have to disagree with my statement.
Let's agree to disagree. Okay, I'll take it. So every everyone that sold their ADA into night,
right, and then obviously got fucking wrecked. You think they're going now to transfer back to ADA?
They can't. Like they're down. A lot of them would have been down like eighty percent on ADA,
and now they're down another ninety. Now another down another ninety-seven percent.
This is like that is the worst transition, bro. I've seen because I really actually feel bad
for Ada people, bro. It's actually shitty. Like, oh yeah, so many people,
so many people fucking recently swapped over to tonight with their Ada, bro. Which is fucked,
absolutely fucked, bro. Yeah, this is a slam, bro. This is a fucking slam.
Imagine being down eighty percent, then being down another ninety seven percent. Like you,
you fucked. Like you literally, there is no coming back from that, bro. Fucked. No,
you haven't got liquidity to play fucking meme coins on Pump Fun to get your money back.
Like you are fucked. It's insane. I am just happy that neither of you two fucking idiots can.
Blame it on Charles. I do blame it on Charles. I do blame it on Charles.
He talked about the buy night. He did a video telling everyone to buy night and how bullish it was.
Yo, my guy, do blame me. Sangha, Sangha, I sent you a DM. What's up, brother? Those are the types.
Yeah, those are the types of people you're talking about. So, Riza, how does one chain
being exploited translate to Charles? Because he's he's telling everyone how bullish night was,
where he's he's dumping a token, not dumping, he's launching a token at the top of the bull market,
right? The only option for him to survive is to dump that token before the bear market, yeah?
Which he obviously he would have, like we can't see it on chain, well, use might be able, I can't.
He would have had to have dumped a lot of night to survive night during the bear market to pay for
development. All this was shit, and then it just leaves it up to like the cycles,
which is a new token, which we all know what's going to happen to it. Like it's you know launch
a token fucking in the bear and build slowly, you know what I mean? Do the Cardano mantra.
That's literally like he's doing the B and B mantra, you know. Like, is it's fucking wild, bro.
Can we? Can we add? Can we add that this is your opinions and this is all allegedly? Yeah, yeah,
hundred percent, hundred percent. Everyone knows my opinion. The the speakers' views do not reflect
the views of UpGood Only nor Rare Radio. Let the listeners exactly be aware. Thank everyone.
Let me get my co-host up because I like when he pulls out the privacy and the disclaimers
and I like that. Straight up, we're gonna make it official. We're all employees of certain companies
around here, and we. I'm just kidding. I'm not an employee of. Oh my goodness! You there, bitch!
Now, boy, you know what I mean. Marijuana packaging claim twenty five percent. Let's go.
But what's that? What wild is fucking broken and Sanka? They were right all along, all fucking time.
Even a broken clock with no arms to point what date, time, or hour is right. Some somehow.
That was still right. That was right a lot. Oh fucking hell! All the hours spent arguing with
the idiots are now rotten. Should have listened, that. Now every Cardenal fucking holder
when they go to bed just hears broken yelling in their head, bro. Wakes up in
the middle of the night in terror. Run, run, run, run, run. Yeah, run, run, run, run.
Fucking hell! It's a run, run, run, run. Yeah, bro, it's crazy. That was pretty close.
When everything isn't working, none of the decks are pushing through transactions. Yo, binary,
you need you need to bring some energy to this stage, bro. Because otherwise, you're taking mine,
and that's crazy. I actually got drained when he said that. You get what I'm saying? I'm like, bro,
what the fuck is going on here, bro? Like, fucking Dracula over here, bro. He's energy.
He just energy vamp. He didn't even hit me for my bag. He hit me for my life. Like, what? No,
this is kind of like a poker. Where the actions of one person affect the EV of everybody,
and so my EV just went way up because I'm eating a peanut butter and jelly tortilla,
and this shit's fire as fuck, bro. So can't nothing bring me down. This is blackjack,
and somebody just hit on a fucking twenty on the corner of the table and fucked everybody, bro.
No, shit's crazy. Yeah, RZA. I expected certain price action with Knight, but not this. You know,
this wasn't on my radar. I didn't think they're about to get hit for thirty over thirty percent in
one fucking day. I didn't see that on the on the timeline. So this is extra, extra. No, I know.
No one expected this, but I think that it was bound to go down ninety, ninety-five percent.
Like that was that's just new token cycles. That was you know to me that was obvious,
and there's nothing wrong with that. Like you know it's just that's just crypto. But in one day,
this this wrecks all the liquidity providers. Not liquidity, it wrecks it fucks all the traders
on Cardano. It fucks all the um all the longs and shorts. Like people are going to stop listing
the shit. You know what I mean? Like not dexes, but like all the trading platforms.
You won't be able to long and short it. They'll cut it a lot. Yeah, it's just too risky.
And everyone that was providing liquidity on those platforms, which are a big part
of the token utility. They just get—they're fucking—they're all liquidated.
Like they ain't coming back. They'll go do something else. They ain't playing with it again.
They'll be mad. Right? People don't realize that—that depends
because if somebody is providing short, which allows other people to go long,
then those people can be completely hedged because they could have enough spot to cover it, right?
So it's—it's mostly the people that'll that are long on leverage where it's like those people
got really fucked. No. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. They're just liquidated. Yeah. I suppose if you
if you're short, they don't even exist. If you're shorting it, but you know.
Then you've got to imagine the the dexes aren't going to pay out the shorts either. No,
I'm sure that people got auto deleverage. Yeah. So. Damn, bro. But don't you worry.
We we got the the big guns coming in, and somehow, some way, to Riza, it is still Charles's fault,
because no matter what, Riza needs the cure for Charles's arrangement syndrome,
and we don't have that cure yet. You know what I mean? Only when Ada goes back up to three dollars
and seventeen thousand million dollars, will Riza like Charles. What has to happen?
What has to happen, Riza? For you to believe in Charles again. Well, I always go to do their job.
What is it? What is it? Damn! The build Cardano, the build Cardano, and stop asking for
extra funding. To do it with the original funding, do what he promised. That's all you have to do.
Do what he promised. That's it. Hmm. So what can I do? Nothing else. I ain't asking for
nothing else. You know, I think it's fair to point out that the like era
of scaling never quite got finished, but I think the whole thing made sense, right?
Like we were in Operation Choke Point 2.0. Governance seemed like the best play at the time.
It was the wrong bet, but it was a bet, and it was rushed. That's why it was the wrong bet.
It was supposed to come later, but Operation Choke Point Two Point Oh kind of forced us
into a corner. And it's like if Kamala had gotten elected, governance would have been the right bet.
But because she didn't, and Trump got elected, short term it was nice,
but it actually ended up playing out wrong in terms of the way that we bet.
We should not have bet on governance, knowing that like had had you had the hindsight,
oh Trump's going to get elected, governance was not the right bet. Yeah.
Do you really think they would have kept the government would care about governance?
Like they wouldn't give a shit. They don't care. They would just have gone after found identities
regardless. They don't give a shit. It depends. It really depends. It does depend,
but we know governments. They don't care. They just change laws and wiggle shit around.
They don't give a flying fuck. They want to do something, they just do it. Yeah, if they want.
They're all corrupt, and that's the key part, though, is if they want to. Yeah,
I don't think they would want to because Kaduna didn't volunteer target.
They'd go after fucking something else. They don't care about Kaduna. Mm-hmm.
That go after something else, but you know, Karate did succeed, I suppose, and and you know,
did all the cool stuff that it can do, and hopefully still does in the future,
which I think it probably will. More so inspired Charles than because of him.
A lot of people don't agree with me yet, but I think in a year they will. But yeah, I don't know.
So, what it is? So, did that logically make sense? That in hindsight, you know what I'm saying?
The bet ended up being the wrong bet, but if it would have worked out the other way,
it would have been a better bet. Yeah, but there's there's so many tears to this. Like, yeah,
it was the right, it was the bat, and it could have been the right bat, and all that sort of stuff.
But then the way governance was structured towards a single entity, that wasn't fair. And then you,
and then you've got things like Charles saying he's never selling ADO,
IOH's case of artificial staking rewards, and then you find out that he did sell all his ADO,
and you're like, what the fuck? Like all these things that you just, it just blows your mind
when you learn it all. Can we talk about one thing at a time? Like in compartments.
I'm down to talk about everything, of course. How delicious that fucking PB and J tortilla!
And also so good. My burrito tortilla. I got played good eating that right.
My burrito that was like I left out some weird shit. I just took the fucking tortilla out
of the bag. Actually, I took four. I took four tortillas. Room temp. Room temp. Just out of the bag.
Took four tortillas. Fucking threw some PB on on two of them and jelly on two of them,
and I stacked that shit and I ate it. See what you should have done. Is you gotta make
your own nut butter first. We ain't doing all that. I got the I got the Adams.
You gotta make the hazelnut macadamia. No, no, I got the Adams crunchy peanut butter, 100 natural.
The only ingredient on there is peanuts. Is it crunchy peanut butter or smooth? It's crunchy. I like
crunchy, bro. Oh yeah, crunchy. That's the real one. Right? But I don't know about the jam.
And with the jam, bro, I don't get that. But that's you don't like peanut butter with jam.
Do you like it with honey or just like alone? Just peanut butter, like on toast usually. That's it,
Riley. Those things are like twenty nine carb grams each, aren't they? The tortillas. Huh.
It depends on which tortillas you're getting. These tortillas are. Hmm. Well. Uh. What? How many?
How many is a two? Tortillas portion, it looks like, and it's a hundred calories for two of them.
Is that correct? So I had this is why Riley's eating a tortilla with peanut butter.
That's the thing is I'm not all centered around lifting and ham and weight and all that shit.
You see, it' a hundred calories. You say you said how many carbs? How many carbs?
Twenty twenty twenty grams of carbs for two of them. So I just had forty grams of carbs. So
plus the peanut butter and jam is thirty five, I believe. Just so that's great.
Congratulations on your peanut butter tortilla shit. But I wanted to talk to continue talking to
Risa here because I find Risa very interesting. Risa is interesting. I love Risa, dude.
Risa is the home. So, sub deviating the conversation to peanut butter and tortilla.
You just don't like peanut butter and jelly. First, I think tortilla. Asco's allergic to peanuts.
No, I'm not. Wow, that's crazy. I'm allergic to counting calories. That's that's the fault I'm
allergic to. But anyway, so Risa. Again, going back to the and and again,
let's keep it compartmentalized, my boy. Like a question is just an answer,
not like a seventeen thousand justifications that are non-associated to the original question as to
why you feel the way you feel. Try to keep it objective. Objective here. So and and again,
I'm not defending anybody or the other. Just trying to have an objective conversation. So
when XRP was in massive litigation, the price was like ten fucking cents because everybody thought
that Gary Gensler was to cook their ass right,
and the entire industry was under that pressure. True or false? It's a true or false question.
Uh, yeah, sort of true, except for except for Bitcoin and shit. Yo, like, stop with why you
why you Australians always be semanticy and shit. Sort of why, and except this,
I just ask a very direct question. So when Gary Gensler had XRP on the ropes,
and they were in like a battle for their lives, this is before there was any legitimate close
to sentiment of like the industry legitimizing with regulations and any of that shit.
They were trying to cook everybody. They had King Jong Un in prison, FTX, fuck, what's his name,
Xi Jinping. I'm just kidding. Dude from Binance, like the whole situation was looking. Fairly grim,
but but we forget that because hindsight is always 2020. All this and that, but by anyway,
I'm just bringing up the details of the the the facts at that time. When you have Loon,
FTX collapse, all this other shit, you have XRP on the ropes, Gary Gensler, you have CZ in jail,
all these things. It ain't looking very good, bro. There ain't no sort of.
It was the government was non-friendly to crypto, undeniably, and they were choke point 2.0,
whatever Riley just mentioned, whatever they had a name. It was an operation to kill the industry,
right? True or false? Is it true or false question,
Risa? And we can continue being objective moving forward.
Risa doesn't like that. I that I don't like semantics. He he can't just say yeah, true or false.
This is not good, bro. That don't fit his narrative. Exactly. Semantic hetero. Exactly. Well,
so I continue, Risa. Maybe you feel like what I'm gonna say is more favorable to your narrative
later. So under those conditions. You know, ADA hadn't been declared an American cryptocurrency
or a legacy crypto. None of those things. Back then, we were all playing.
It was like the weed business, right? When I was doing the weed thing before regulations and shit.
Any day, got the wrong cop pull up on me, I'm going to jail. That's just a fact. So, at that time,
decentralizing the network meant for Charles and the founding entities, not just Charles, right?
And everybody associated in the founding of the ecosystem that. You at least get to have an argument
for thinning of the liability of creating a cryptocurrency, because I'm sure
that there could still be an argument in the U.S. Court, this and that, who did it, and whatever,
right? But to mitigate the potential of the massive negative outcome, which is to go to jail
because of this and that, governance had to be put in front of scaling,
and and that argument I I have to concede because it wasn't in that order, it wasn't in that order,
and then that created issues. Because being in a rush, if you will, because they're
unfavorable regulatory conditions of the industry, you know, governance was somewhat rushed.
All these people from all over the world, blah blah blah, had to go sign a constitution,
all these things, and governance was implemented in a very short period of time,
in contrast to its significance of on the chain. But at that time, in my opinion, my little humble,
low IQ opinion. I would have done the same shit. I ain't even gonna cap because I didn't know
that Trump was going to be elected, that the United States was going to be pro crypto,
that the ADA was going to be fucking, you know, kind of grandfathered in as a OG cryptocurrency
or an American cryptocurrency at that. All of those things. Nobody knew any of that.
I would have definitely done the same shit, and if you were have been the founder of Cardano, ADA,
or anything like that, you bet your ass you would have probably made the same decision
because you didn't want to fucking go to prison or jail based on the fact that all the things that
I've already mentioned, true or false? Unless you got the biggest fucking Superman ball. Oh, false.
Okay, and explain to me why. Why? Well, XRP was winning the whole time. You've got
other major crypto. Are you in the courtroom? Were you in the courtroom? I followed it.
How how close? Um. This one. Anyway, go ahead. Keep going. Keep going. I'm not going to question.
Yeah. You had other major. You had other major platforms launching during the same period.
Launching, where Cardano was launched ages ago in Japan, it had all these protections
in place compared to the other joint other mobs, and the narrative actually was back then
that Cardano was exempt regardless. So it's like, if Cardano is protected, why worry about it?
Let's just, um, you know, let's just continue our job, see how we go. If we go to court,
we go to court. Is what it is. Aetherium was at risk. Not even cut down.
Aetherium was was was at risk. Everyone, everyone's at risk when you got when you got
corrupt government involved. Don't get me wrong, but Aetherium was, Aetherium was listed as
on the same level as Bitcoin by them. I can't remember what it was, but no, it was only Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is is the is the pure thing that that is. Yeah, it was only Bitcoin at the time.
It was only Bitcoin. Big part of this, and on top of that, they even sued Coinbase
and other exchanges listing ADA, Solana, and other top cryptocurrencies as the reason
they were suing the exchanges, based on the fact that those currencies were securities.
It was not like, oh, this is a little deal. It was they were basically already trying to declare
that most of the top ten coins, including ADA, were securities. Only Bitcoin, only Bitcoin pure,
only Bitcoin pure, only Bitcoin perfect. This was the ideology. Yeah. If anything is a security,
it's Bitcoin. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. That's what they say.
That's what they said with checkpoint 2.0, right? So it doesn't matter what is a security,
what is not a security. It's what they say that is security. That that is true. So yes, exactly.
In that context, I would say, like, if if I if I were to take decisions,
I would also rush governments. In that context. Yeah, you make a good point. Yeah,
especially with Ada on one of their. Complaints against, you know, one of their lawsuits against
Coinbase listing Ada as a security, even though it wasn't proven yet, is still quite the thing.
Because if they could, for instance, prove it, or if the laws got changed,
which proved it to security, then it would have, you know, it would have easily killed Ada.
Who gets cooked a Mogo? Because they launched it. What Ada? If it did go down,
it would be a Mogo that gets cooked. So that Americans have to go to Japanese companies.
It would get everyone involved. But if they went after Cardano in general, just like just Cardano,
I'm not talking about exchanges or anything like that. It was a merger that actually launched.
But merger launched it. Doesn't matter. Is the founding entities were all involved at a high level,
and if it's declared as a security, there's an involvement in which you're complicit with.
Selling securities, unregistered securities. Yeah, it would have affected all the founding entities.
There, there would not been this. Oh, only this founding entity. It would have affected CF, IOG,
all of them. Everybody, everybody. Okay, so now, now that we've come to hold on, Charles, what's up,
Charles? Hold on a second. We we're having a little break down here for like a minute or two, bro,
and then we can get into what what the main situation is. You know what I'm saying, my boy? Um,
but Riza, see, see, now that you got a little bit more clarity in um. You know the the situation
at that time and the decisions that made more sense to have been made at that time.
Can we agree that the better decision was made at that time, based on the information
and the state of the industry at that time? Yeah, yeah, probably. Micro, micro, and and was it Mike?
Oh, Michelle Patel. Michelle Patel. Yeah, he changed his profile picture.
I didn't realize it was him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they make good points. They make good points.
I can't argue with. I can't argue with good points. Right, so so you know,
so Cardano made the decision to go with governance before scaling because of the conditions
and all that type of shit. So now we can agree on that, and then, fortunately for the industry,
and and and in some sense also unfortunately, for the decision that was made in
the Cardano ecosystem at the time with the information that we had, then you know,
like who would have known that you know the United States would have become crypto crypto friendly
and all the things that you know transpired, you know, moving forward, you know,
you could have never known. And if if we still don't know, we still don't know. Exactly.
And if the cleric act has to come out, and then we see how it washes out over
a few years before we really know. Right. But when you have a president that was like pumping
the bags, and then you would have, if if he would have had the other president that was like,
fuck the bags, then it would have Cardano would have been better positioned.
If it would have been a Kamala Harris type of other situation, Trump can't do anything.
He's launched meme coins for fuck's sake. Well, that happened later. He pretty much made crime legal
down the line. But anyways, so you know, since we got Charles in here, you know,
I gotta respect his time and shit. But we we can resume this conversation some other time.
I like that we at least got that that far. But we'll we'll dive into that. Yo, Charles, what's up?
Obviously, we we have a little situation going on. Yeah, we got a we got a war room going on
right now. So I. I noticed the price of night dropping dramatically, and I was like,
"What the hell is going on?" So, you know, I got a live feed for these things.
Whenever the market moves more than five or ten percent on anything that I follow,
I get a little automated warning. So I saw that, and I said, "Oh, that's really weird.
" So I messaged a few people. I said, "What's the origin of this?" He said, "Well,
looks like a whale on the BNB side is dumping." And I said, "Dumping? I mean, if you have lots
and lots of night, usually you do TWAPS or some other things to divest.
You wouldn't just go straight to the open market to to do that." So immediately I was thinking,
"Okay, we we may have a hack here. So either somebody's night got compromised,
or a bridge was compromised." So, Midnight Foundation responded very quickly.
They put together a war room. We started working it almost immediately,
and it looks like the origin of this is a hack on the Wanchain bridge between BNB and Cardano. So,
Midnight Foundation worked really hard to try to get in contact with Wanchain,
but it was like three o'clock in the morning in China, so not a lot of people were around.
And we'll have more to say. I'd say probably in the next hour to three hours, depending
upon where things are at. It's not a hack on midnight. The midnight smart contract holding
your night as a CNT on Cardano is fine. Nothing appears damaged on the BNB side.
Does look like it's the Wan Chain bridge though, so I wouldn't consider that to be
safe infrastructure at the moment. And what we're doing right now is a is
a standard real time hack incident response. So we're doing the standard NIST 800-61 process,
scribing it, getting everything into a log, and getting it bundled together
and trying to get it over to the Wan Chain side as quickly as we can. Like normally,
what happens with attackers, what they do is they dump, or use more sophisticated things
like lending, for example, to try to get an extraction. So the attacker
's been dumping night the last few hours or whenever this began, and still has,
I think about 84 million night left, give or take. We've been following it,
so hopefully that can be slowed down. But it's clearly in the hands of the attacker,
and the attacker is just gonna sell to get to something they can launder and try to end up in USDT
and take it through one of those Silk Road style pipelines and mix it. Charles, I would DM you,
but of course I can't. But bro, just get you a regular PFP, bro. Yo, what? Bro. Come on, dude.
We're getting the update on the actual situation. You. I'm just being real with you.
Did you figure me? Did you figure me out? What I asked you, bro? Yo, I I did.
I sent you a screenshot of the situation that you asked. I appreciate you, bro. Yeah, no worries,
no. Ain't no, ain't no, ain't no. There's seven. I'm just. There's 77 million left. Ah,
now let me get control of the situation again, man. Yo, bags. The person replied to me.
I sent you the information pertaining. Go figure it out over there. And if you need more help,
I'll get it for you, bro. You know, you my dude. Let's resume the update on the staff. Yeah,
appreciate you, bro. A little bit of yeah. Yeah. Oh my God, this is. Anyways, Charles, go ahead.
Sorry, dude. I mean, that's all I have to report at the moment. I mean, Midnight is strong.
She's doing fine. We have a lot of beautiful things on the roadmap. Midnight City is looking good.
Offer files looking good. Monument Bank is still in the fray. There was no hack
on Midnight's technology. There's no hack on the Midnight ecosystem. It's a third-party bridge.
And unfortunately, every single time we get one of those goddamn things in the Cardano ecosystem,
whether it be Nomad or this, some point they break. This is one of the reasons I created Midnight
because I wanted to move to trustless recursive snarks instead of having some goddamn bridge code.
It's deeply frustrating. It's really, really deeply frustrating, and do understand that you know we
at input output we at shielded. We'll do everything in our power to try to work this
and figure out what can be done. But this is unfortunately the reality of bridges.
The reason why this bridge exists. Is that a condition of listing with Binance?
They wanted the night that was issued over there to be issued on BNB, and so it required a bridge
to be put in play for that to happen. So a bespoke BNB Cardano bridge was created,
and WanChain implemented that to get it in place. Because we don't have a larger bridge solution
like Wormhole or Layer Zero operating yet on Cardano to facilitate these types of things.
So this was a unique thing to BNB, and no other exchange required that,
but it was a Binance requirement. So that's one of the reasons why this legacy infrastructure
was there. I have seen some things that were just disgusting and despicable.
Navjit said that Anastasia was responsible for the audit of Wanchain.
That for this particular instantiation and version of it, that's just materially false.
I don't understand why people, when people are losing money, real time will go
and just try to jab the blade in. But that's just that project's personality and leadership.
It's really sad, and it just reflects on them and who they are as human beings. You know,
there's no one in the inner circle of Midnight. Who is directly responsible for this?
It is a third-party service that implemented and deployed this to build something that was
a requirement of listing. That service did go through an independent audit
and got a clean bill of health. The problem is, guys, that Fable exists and Soul exists,
and these Chinese models now exist, and they're able to find bugs that auditors previously were not
able to find. There's over 430 CVEs that have been reported on the Linux kernel in just
the last two months, which is more than have been reported in the last year.
And that's the Linux kernel, okay? One of the largest and most secure
and most worked-on open-source projects in the world. So AI is unusually good
at finding vulnerabilities. And what's happening is that's an all-you-can-eat buffet
where hackers are sitting down and scanning open code. Including audited code,
in code that people thought was okay, and trying to find hacks and vulnerabilities in it.
Cardano has a higher degree of resistance to this than other ecosystems
because the nature of our dev model and the use of formal methods. But higher degree
of resistance means that instead of catching a cold five times out of ten,
you catch it one time out of ten. But given enough time, you will catch the cold. Okay,
so just shut up for now, man. I'm briefing everybody. I believe right now. I will leave right now.
Ah, put him down. Put him down. Yo, back. Thank you. I just can't be interrupted like this.
I really can't. Five hundred million night was just taken. People are hurting.
This is not a time to grandstand. It really is not. I just came in real briefly to brief everybody
about what's going on, give you what I know, so that we can get back to working this incident.
It's not here to shoot the shit. We're not here to talk about PFPs. Just here to inform you guys
about what's going on through a channel that many people listen to. So
if anybody has any questions directly related to this incident, I'll be happy to answer them
for the next few minutes, and then I got to get back to work. Hundred percent, Johnny. Go ahead.
Hey Charles, Alex Pasechka and I created a protocol that leverages zk-Splunk for a pub sub.
We were successful at getting notifications for anomalies on the Midnight blockchain.
I have put it in the comments if you guys want to check it out. Yeah, this is one of the failures
of Cardano, and you can thank P and Sol and the Well Type guys for almost a decade
keeping it out of Cardano and. I for a long time wanted pub sub to be a first-class citizen
in our network protocol, and every year I'd ask about it. They'd say they'd do it,
and they'd take it out of the roadmap somehow or some way. And eventually,
got so bad I fired him from I/O for a variety of reasons, but that was one of them.
Pub sub is essential for these types of things because you can send a notification to all the DApps,
all the DREPs, all the stakepool operators, and all the people, including the wallets,
that an incident has happened, and you're able to respond to these incidences dramatically faster
than if you don't have pub sub. And it's always incredibly frustrating to me.
I've been at this now for more than a decade on the Cardano side. About eleven years,
I've worked on Cardano. Eight of those eleven years, there's always been incidents
because we've been a production system. And I've wanted to notify people as soon as humanly possible
that that issues exist. And I wanted to have pubs up to do that because I could send signed payloads
to everybody that's subscribed to us, and we could even make deals with dexes
and other people that if an emergency override payload came through, it would halt things.
So that would stop the loss of user funds. But not having this feature has been really harmful
to Cardano. And I know that at I/O we wanted it. I have yet again in Arc.
Another program to study PubSub to figure out a path to get PubSub into Cardano,
and hopefully now that we're unencumbered by people who have tried for no particularly good reason
to prevent this from being in the protocol, I think there's a path forward.
We're going to have a hell of a time because some of those people are still
on the technical steering committee, but it's going to be one of the things I push aggressively for
for the 2027 roadmap and pushing it in, getting it in. The entire Cardano network stack does need
an overhaul, and this is first in line. So I'd be happy to look at what you guys have.
Maybe on the midnight side, that's a good stopgap solution, but it's on the midnight roadmap.
And you know, build or buy. We want to get these services and capabilities in for exactly the reason
that you outline. There are so many non-emergency and emergency use cases for a pub sub system,
and yet again, this has proven that a pub sub is absolutely necessary inside the protocol.
So I'm very glad that that you brought it up. And and I mean, this is a bugbear of mine that
I've had. For a very very long time, probably eight plus years now, and anybody who knows me
and who's in the inner circle, they know one of the ways to piss me off more than anything else
is to mention pub sub. Go ahead, Ed. Hey, buddy, I appreciate coming and giving us the update.
Quick, just a general question because you mentioned layer zero prior,
and obviously that's something we're trying to move to before the end of the year.
My understanding is is that the delay in that is more on their end than ours, and secondly.
Do you think that it is going to be secure enough for the vulnerabilities that you're talking about
with like AI and everything that you know that one chain is not when we eventually move to
that standard? So currently, I'm working on something called Omega proofs,
and I have a repo for it that's public. And I've identified 42 things you can prove about Cardano,
52 things you can prove about Midnight, and I'm examining how much we can prove using
a Groth 16 proof on Cardano and a Plonk proof on Midnight. About the the systems,
and the reason I'm doing this is that I'd like to move to a layered bridge solution
where you combine a multi-sig and trusted execution alongside a zero knowledge system,
and when you put those two components together, it's difficult—not impossible,
but difficult—to hack the bridge. And as long as we live in this AI-coded world, probably
another two to three years is going to have to go through before VipeSec is at a level where most
of the attacks that AI can find, you can defend against. So it's not perfect,
but there's a lot going on there. The delay is on the layer zero side,
and it's an abundance of caution because of prior events that happened with Kelp.
Got everybody on that side of the aisle a little bit more mindful about where things need to be
and and how to get things done and and so they're definitely doing a a proper integration
and the whole DVN model can be configured in a way to make it more secure like Flare
for example they're having their entire network be a DVN for the XRP layer zero bridge so I think
we can facilitate and accommodate similar things but I I'm right now just cleaning up
some broken windows on midnight pre prod including a persistent data layer using SQL
and using Postgres and JSON And I should have most of those broken windows cleaned up
for my personal build. Once I have that done, I'm going to start working on
the zero-knowledge implementation, very similar to what I did with the Groth 16 prover for
Second Phai. And once I finish that implementation, I'm going to turn it over to Arc,
and we're going to talk a little bit about what is our horizon to get zero-knowledge proofs
on the Partner Chains Bridge model. The reason why this has been somewhat delayed is Orhorse Paris
has to ship on the Cardano side, and we have to have the decentralized consensus
on the Midnight side. So we're moving to Babe. On the midnight side, and that's part
of the decentralization and stakepool operation, and that's an ongoing process.
But they're moving rather quickly. And on the Cardano side, very likely what will happen is
the Paris code will ship in the Laos hard fork, and then get turned on in Q1 of next year,
God willing, to to permit Paris. And once both sides are done, you can build zk proofs.
You you can't do zk proofs on a bridge solution until consensus is solidified
because you're proving properties of the consensus algorithm. Also, it determines
your rollback time. Right now, if I was to prove properties of consensus with Cardano,
you would have to wait k in Orboros proofs, which is 12 hours. So you have a 12-hour rollback time
with Orboros Paris. It's about two minutes as opposed to 12 hours. That's
why I've been pushing Paris for many years. Same group of people that tried to keep PubSub out
of the protocol were actually trying to keep Paris out of the protocol as well. Again,
out of some sort of bizarre abundance of caution that's make believe. So it's been a long road
to get Paris into the protocol. We've had Paris designed for about two years,
and there's been everything that could go possibly wrong. And trying to get it into the protocol
has happened. It was actually supposed to ship before Layos. But we have it back on track, I think,
and a lot of good people are working hard on it and trying really hard to get the code written,
get it in. We have a formal specification, we have a full SIP. There's ongoing work.
It'll be on testnet soon enough, and you know we'll just keep working it. On my side,
once I have a stable protocol on testnet, then I can start designing the zero-knowledge proofs
for the Cardano side. As I said, there's 42 properties that you can prove about Cardano that
I've been able to identify, and those properties, it's non-trivial how to The best representation
of these things. So another SIP that we're working on right now is SIP 165,
and SIP 165 is talking about state commitments about the Cardano blockchain itself directly
to the Cardano blockchain, so they can be then optimized and referenced.
So Mithril was always kind of a stopgap, but this is kind of taking it to the next level,
and it adds a whole bunch of amazing capabilities. But we have to kind of be where we need to be.
This recent hard fork that just came through, that hard fork added in all the primitives
required to do efficient zk on Cardano. So those zk proofs that I did on SecondFi,
they now run on mainnet, thanks to all these things that have come in the in the hard fork.
So we're real happy about that. And there's there's a direct line of sight
and how one would prove these things. The problem is the circuit complexity is still quite high.
It's k28, so it takes a long time to prove lots of properties. And amortization
of this would require some form of on-chain state representation. So anyway,
saying the technical stuff aside, very fertile area. And the next six to nine months,
I think we'll have the infrastructure primitives and other things to be able to do
trustless bridging between Cardano and its partner chain network. The broader question of
how do you then do bridging between Cardano and Ethereum and other networks.
I think there may be a path to use midnight as an intermediate representation,
and then connect into Ethereum and Solana and other things.
And we probably can transitively construct a trustless bridge for these types of things.
So we'll work on it and put these pieces together. But there's just An enormous amount of stuff
to do. Like for example, getting Blaster to work well with zk is a high priority,
and I've talked to the team about this as a the next major step because I'd like to prove
the circuits are not underconstrained. Normally, it's not a big issue because human beings are
really bad at debugging these things and finding attacks, but AI is ridiculously good at it. So
if you have underconstrained circuits, AI will find it. They'll take advantage of it
and they can use it to counterfeit tokens, and that's why you've seen recent attacks on zcash
and other things occur. Those were not human discovered attacks. Those were discovered
probably using AI. Do you see what you're describing here as the final destination beyond
Layer Zero, or do you see Layer Zero kind of being permanent infrastructure within, let's say,
Cardano and Midnight in general? Even if we have our own standard for it, if Layer Zero
becomes a standard, you want to support that wormhole and other things.
You give the app developers the the option because bridges are only as good as liquidity
and infrastructure, and they support like a hundred blockchain ecosystems. And so, you know,
you want to have multiple options, and you let people decide. The other thing is Layer Zero
is moving to a recursive snark. Lens and they're doing this through Jolt,
so they have a a platform called Zero, which uses Jolt to do Jolt to do folding proofs.
So they actually are moving in the same direction as we are. So it's good to have
independent implementations and independent pursuits to the same end. Okay,
that fills in some holes for me. Appreciate it. Um, Charles, this kind of like Brings me back
to something that it was a little bit turbulent, but I think it is more important than ever
because I got Micro up here, got you up here. So originally, remember that whole fuzz
about a trustless bridge to midnight, and what was combobulated into a the vamp attack and this
and that. Do you see how important trustless bridges are instead of multisigs and and yeah,
and that's why it wasn't rushed, you know. There we go. There we go. It's like,
and the there was no reason in the beginning when it was first a test net,
and then also when it was an aguarded launch to have free flow of assets between both ledgers.
All you really wanted was just the ability to generate dust, and so you could run things on it.
But it was always understood that there was an iterative approach to getting those components turned
on, so you could build a trustless bidirectional bridge inside the system. So.
This type of incident is is a great case study in why you do these things in a layered
and systematic way, so you don't have hacks. Again, it requires consensus to be settled on
both sides, and it's not settled on the Cardano side or on the Midnight side.
The final form of Babe has to be specified on the Midnight side, and the final form
of Paris has to be specified on the Cardano side. Now we know over the next six to nine months
that those specifications will be in play, and on the Cardano side, more optimization
will be done for Groth 16, and on the Midnight side, the proving system is rapidly evolving in
both quality and assurance levels. So then we'll be in a place to enable a bidirectional bridge
that can be built layers, and so we can have a DVN-style LZL zero model,
but then you can combine a second recursive component to that, which which not only allows
you to move assets, but prove properties of the chains to each other. And I don't think
people understand how many properties exist. Okay, so they think of a bridge.
They think I'm moving Ada from system A to system B. That's what they think.
And the reality is that there's massive quantities of things that you can talk about. You know,
just to give you guys some example of of all the things that you can talk about
when you want to move stake or something back and forth, you have Chain and epic content.
You have transaction and block facts. You have UTXO membership. You have UTXO non-membership.
You have output addresses, values, datums, and scripts. You have mint burn transactions.
You have metadata. You have asset supply at a bounded epic. You have script outcomes,
and there's seven different outcome purposes you can prove properties about: stake properties,
delegation properties, pool properties, rewards, deposits, treasury MIRs,
and all the SIP 1694 governance actions. So that's just on the Cardano side. So
when you have an external actor, whether it be an L2, a contractor, the Midnight Network,
you have to prove all those properties or some subset of that to reasonably talk about it.
Then on the Midnight side, there's 52 properties that you can talk about. There's chain
and indexer anchors. There's transaction and intent validity. There's contract state and calls.
There's the compact private predicates. There's ESWAP shielded tokens, the unshielded tokens,
and night. You got dust properties of which there's about six things you can prove about dust that
I know of, and then you have aggregation infrastructure properties as well. So that's 52.
Categories of things that you can prove to the Cardano network or an external network
about midnight. So when you talk about a trustless recursive bridge, what you're talking about are
proof structures that give you the ability to assert something about one of those categories,
and then the proof verifier will be able to validate what you're saying is true. Okay,
so it's a very complex web of things, and and so when you build this, you not only have to build it
as a state of time, you also have to build it so that it doesn't get hacked,
and you have to build it so that it can be updated, because these are living networks
and they're changing over time. The Epic and Era hard fork combinator model Cardano is very nice
for that purpose. It's actually one of the superpowers of Cardano, and we have
similar constructs in Midnight to facilitate that. So that's why there was never like a rush
about the bidirectional bridge. Because if you implemented a partial solution,
you would not really satisfy all those requirements to be useful. You really have to get
some protocol stability, and then you say, okay, we're going to clip that version.
This is the way it's going to be, and then it's very easy to implement those both sides
and get all those properties in play, and then you just get a whole bunch of extra things.
That same infrastructure can be used for light clients. That same infrastructure can be used for
selective disclosure of governance actions, like private ballots and private voting.
That same infrastructure can be used for custodians or auditors and other people,
like proof of reserves and these types of things, without revealing the underlying accounts.
So you gain a huge amount of capabilities all at once. And what
you don't want to do is re-implement them seven different times in seven different ways.
And then white coding comes in and they find flaws and they steal funds
or you know people's private information gets leaked. So it's a really complicated
and you know rat's nesty type of issue, and there's a lot of moving pieces to it.
And do understand that some of brightest people in the world work on these topics.
It's not just the midnight people, but the Ethereum people work on this,
the Starkware people work on this, the Polygon people work on this with Starky.
So what's nice is there's also a lot of conversations right now about interoperability of standards.
Okay, so we all the time go to the ZK summits and we talk to all these different people, and we say,
"Well, what's going down the pipeline? What are you guys investing in? Where are you concerned?
Where are you not concerned? And then, obviously, what is your migration strategy long term?
" Because post-quantum also gets factored in. In fact, one of the groups of people we talk to
is here, listening. The runtime verification people, and we've been working with them since
the K days, way back like eight years ago when they did the K EVM, and they have
a wonderful framework. I think it's called Pi Square, where they're doing proofs of proofs,
and they're in the same vertical in the same space, and they work on the same types of problems.
And you'll find that the credentials of the people that work on
these things—they typically have PhDs, they're typically at major research universities,
and they typically have a work pedigree working at places like NASA or Boeing
or Lockheed Martin—and they work on high-assurance systems. Like if those systems fail, people die.
So they can't fail; they have to be correct by construction. And the good news is that between
when we started working with runtime eight years ago and Certik and all these other firms,
and where we're at today as an industry, miracles of computer science have been achieved.
And these frameworks are massively better than they used to be. But they're not at a maturity level
that you can just look at them and say tomorrow they're going to take over
the world financial system and everybody can use them and they'll never get hacked
and they're going to run forever. They're they're now at a level where we're starting to be
able to use them in use cases, but there's going to be some rough edges, just like crypto had
rough edges for the last 15 years, and these are some of the growing pains you know that we're
we're going through. As for bridges, bridges were great until AI vibe coding came,
and now AI vibe sec is just tearing them apart. And unfortunately, it's merciless.
And the only way to secure a bridge is to have the same mindset that you have with space travel,
where you have triple or quadruple redundant systems, and you have multiple independent modes
of failure. And when you do that layering approach, then there's a very low probability that all
of them will fail concurrently. The other thing is you need early detection systems so that as one
of your layers of defense is failing, you have enough time for the curated infrastructure
to respond. And the third thing that you need is redundancy of offerings,
so you don't have just one bridge solution. You have a collection of other bridge solutions that are
that are available. Anyway, I don't want to say too much more about it, but just the the tweet.
Is the source of truth, and as I said, there's a war room that's been put together.
I see Fami's in the channel as well, and you know we're working it from the IO side.
The Midnight Foundation's working it from their side, and some statements will come out soon
about what we know. And you know, it's it's just one of those things that happens in crypto.
And after being in the space for so damn long, it's You never get used to it. You just accept it,
and you work it, and you try to do your best, and you try to make sure that people move on.
But it's important to understand it's not a hack of midnight. Midnight network is running just fine.
Transactions are flat. Just submitted one actually 15 minutes ago. You know, pre-prods doing good,
mainnet's doing good. There's no flaws or hacks that we know of in the midnight smart contract
on Cardano. So your tokens are safe there, and people are transacting midnight the CNT
without any issues. This is strictly constrained to the Wan Chain bridge between Cardano and BNB.
That's the best that I know at the moment, and do understand that. And later statements will come at
a not too distant future. No, I appreciate you pulling up. You know, I was in the space way earlier
when when we just organic because we look at charts all day every day. You know,
we just be speculating, talking shit in here, and we were like, "Holy shit, what's going on?
" And then we saw a couple of posts, yeah, this and that, whatever. So then we just started,
you know, Riley and and we just started just like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa," and then. I was like,
hey, I I chose to end the space. I'm gonna keep it 100. Well, let's go. You know,
the number one thing is don't panic, don't fire sell things, and no 100.
And this is why I shut this. That's why I was gonna get to. I shut the space down because I knew
that the the situation was going to escalate into speculation. You know, I know how it goes.
So I shut the space down, and then we fired it back up once I had a little bit of an understanding,
and I saw the you know the Menai Foundation made an announcement. I tapped in with a couple
of other my amigos, and they were like, yo, what this? What time it is? And I was like, ah, okay,
let's let's go back home. It's a shitty situation, but it's not existential. Midnight strong,
and you know we got a lot of wonderful, great things on the horizon. And you know,
locally it does certainly impact the markets and the price, but it shows you how resilient
Midnight is. You know, a hacker can come in and dump something that's half the size
of the entire crowd sale of Ethereum, and the network is able to absorb that and recover.
And this is a very young, very early days in the network, so it's not an optimal situation,
and it's sad that these things happen. But there's a real good team of people working it,
and hopefully we can hear some things from Juan Chen soon on it. And you know,
we'll we'll keep moving forward. You know, and I just wanted to reassure everybody
that Midnight itself is sound and solid, and do understand that you know down the pipeline,
this is why Midnight exists. When you talk about things like Midnight Passport
and selective disclosure. What this allows you to do is understand who owns what, where,
and they can prove that they were actually an owner. So it helps a lot with recovery
and these types of things. Like, how do you get people their funds? It's the eight of out
your problem all over again. We talk about zero knowledge. It adds a new security layer
and dimension to the system that we didn't have previously. And midnight also is a like a leader
in trusted execution, and and will be a leader in multi-party computation.
And these other things are, when combined with zk, really the gold standard when you talk about
secure operating environments for high assurance applications. So when you start talking about
midnight native custodians, midnight native bridges, these types of things,
you start taking security up a level, and you operate on a different wavelength,
a different frequency than the spaces used to. So we go from well, that's just the way things are,
and you just have to accept it, to that's a a very rare event. The longest term,
and this is a big passion of mine, and it's something that I know we're going to be able to get to,
and I hope it's a midnight exclusive or midnight first to market, is insurance. You know,
no matter how good you are, at some point bad things happen that are unpredictable and unforeseen,
and I think that's a great market opportunity, so that people can issue policies
for unlikely events, and they become yield-bearing real-world assets. And when people use bridges,
they can get insured versus uninsured transactions. Insured transactions can be reinvested in
the event that a bridge hack has occurred. When you create things like Midnight Passport and ZK,
you create evidentiary systems through selective disclosure that actually makes that system work,
from both a compliance and from a restitution lens. And also, you know,
we've just started talking to LCP, the Legal Context Protocol guys, with
the American Arbitration Association and a few companies like Integra Labs.
And I'd love to see if we can find a path to extend the LCP protocol to include the private state
of contracts and have provable properties of the legal understanding, so that when you use things.
You can embed into the transaction the legal understanding, and end user license agreements,
and other things like if a white hat has to take funds, I consent to that, and here's the terms
and conditions, and like a white hat license, all kinds of things that you can embed in
and have a non-reputable signature connected to it. So when you look at midnight,
it's really the adult chain. You know, it's one saying like let's meet people not only
where they're at, but let's accept that commerce has to have checks and balances, rules,
regulations, and insurance and other products behind it because ultimately,
what you care about safety. You want this to be a simple, easy, safe experience for billions
of people around the world. So, as bad as these things are, they are proof points to
why Midnight exists and why we need to build Midnight and continue pushing it through.
And and it reinvigorates the team; it gets them incredibly passionate. And they say, "Gosh,
we really want to have this stuff available because if we have this in a few years' time,
these things." Not only will they not happen as frequently. When they happen, you're like,
"Thank God I have that insurance policy," or "Thank God I had that midnight passport." I'm okay.
You know, things are okay inside the system. So, just food for thought on all of that.
And do know again that there's great people on the team. There's some of the brightest people
in the world. Like one of them's here, Phil, and they are more than capable of triaging,
diagnosing these things. And whatever they do happen, they take them really seriously.
And they wake up every day and say, "This this is the most important thing of the day.
It's not like a side thing. I'm going to go get a sandwich." I'll give you a little story
before I leave. I was once in Greece, and I was in an old office building,
and I got on a tiny elevator that only has four people. So there was four people in in the elevator,
me and three other guys. And as we were going down, the cable snapped, and we fell a few floors,
and the emergency brakes clicked on. And we were stuck in this elevator,
and so I pushed a little button, and the Greek fire service decides to come,
but they decided to take lunch before coming to rescue us. So we ended up in the elevator
for an hour and a half, waiting for these Greek firefighters to show up,
and they eventually they did, and they opened it up, and they had to pull.
Did they bring you a sandwich, Charles, or no? Didn't bring me a sandwich. They bring me nothing,
and I'm telling you, damn. Cold out there. Being stuck in a in a Greek elevator after the cable
snapped, and you were in free fall for a few stories, and Greek weather with no air conditioning,
and three other dudes for an hour and a half. That is an emergency situation. So,
I think we got another one. The elevator. The elevator. He's about to make an AI of elevator.
This damn thing makes AI videos of all of us. So do understand what we say. We understand the pain
and incidents and things like that. Nobody's going on lunch right now.
There ain't no firefighters on lunch. This is the only priority, and there's a lot
of constituent professionals that work and seeing what they can do with it.
At least from the IO side, because I can only speak for my organization,
and I know the other ones have similar feelings. But you know, speaking for my organization,
we care about these things deeply. And there's layers to it. First is how do you triage it,
and how do you preserve as much evidence as possible? Bring all the actors together,
get them working together, and see what options spaces there for cleaning up the incident
and restitution. The second level of it is how do we do things differently in the future
so things work better for everybody. And the third level is how do we invest in new innovations
and technology and bring in new partners so that those partners are able to be able to deliver
a situation where these things don't happen in the future. So investigations, of course,
are going to be done. Audits are going to be done. Statements are going to be issued.
All these types of things. One chain has to answer for their own software,
and we have to understand more about this. But you know, from our side,
we're just doing everything we can to work, coordinate, facilitate. And if Phil,
if you want to say anything on your side, feel free. And I got to get going here
in just a few minutes. I do have one question, if that's okay. You're definitely gonna wait.
The hell you was think? He said, "Yo, Phil, do you have anything?" Yo, Phil, what's up?
You want to chime in? No, I mean that's that's an accurate summary. These things are very hard.
I want to caution that no amount of pre AI emergent security is good enough.
A lot of these exploits rely on off chain mechanisms. A lot of these exploits rely on
deeply advanced cryptographic primitives, things that would take domain experts years
of experience to to interact with. And you know the the world is very different now.
Security is more important than ever, and so I think that you know at the end of all of this,
this is going to be good for for both Cardano and Midnight because we have hyperspecialized into
security for the past you know ten years. We've made so many trade offs to under the understanding
that security is going to be more important than any other property of these chains,
and that that you know precognition has paid off. If you look at You know these exploits in a void.
Sure, you'll think they're bad, but I urge you to go on Defi Llama and click exploits
and look at the state of the entire blockchain industry. There is an exploit
every single day that eclipses both of these combined. If you look at the past six months
on Ethereum alone, more has been exploited than in the past six years combined. Right?
This is just a vastly different world for blockchain protocols. You know.
Security by obscurity is not good enough anymore, and even you know, responsible
or a standard level of security is not good enough anymore. These systems
have to be mission critical and airtight to the nth degree, and you know, these chains, Cardano
and Midni, are the best places for that to be possible, right? They have the most infrastructure,
the most testing frameworks, formal verification, things that can actually facilitate
that nth degree of security. No, hundred percent, and also I think that.
The way that that situations like this are handled is very, very important. To some extent,
not even just because of us who are hosting the very few spaces that are being hosted anymore.
We're handling them in a way that don't further propagate the, you know,
all the negatives that come with it. Because the internet lives off of the and the negative vibes.
So, you know, when when when I reached out to a few of the friends and everything and so on,
I was like, all right, cool. You know, like I'm not gonna set a stage for like heavy levels
of speculation and. And just like narrative building, because that's why back in the day, I mean,
I was part of it. You know, that's what used to happen. So, you know, growing in the space
and everything is extending grace. And I mean, if I be one of the biggest contributors
to my own platform nowadays, you can only imagine the power of AI, dude. So, no, it was super fire.
And Yo Charles, thanks for pulling up. First of all, feeling like it's a place that you can come
and share, and you know that obviously we're here for that. And go ahead. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate
that, Esco. And and again, you know, this is a preliminary thing. And you know, as I said,
more statements will come as we discover. But I just felt it was important to come up
and spend a few minutes with everybody and say, "Hey, here's what we know, and don't panic,
and calm everybody down a little bit." These things always seem dramatically worse
than they actually are. This is an unfortunate situation, but remember. Last time,
the Midnight Network is running. Everything's fine there, and you know, night itself is is running.
So that's our current focus. Make sure that those core crown jewels are protected. And obviously,
there's a lot of teachable moments for everybody here. So I got to get going.
But thanks for having me on real quickly. And obviously, if you need anything more,
there's a few other people directly connected to it here. But that's all I'll say here. Thanks,
guys. Hey, I do. Pull up anytime. Any other time. And give me another day, bro.
You know we're like the TMZ of Cardano news. You know when I put on the right now
we're up good only, but I can pull on the Waffle House anytime. You know what I'm saying?
When the fuck she needs to go down the Waffle House, we go in. I'm just kidding. But no trap house.
I don't know about nothing about no trap or any house of any kind. Who is the yes? You see what?
Who is the yes? I don't know, but he ain't coming up here. Tell you that. I already let him up. Oh,
I'm gonna kick his ass now. That's for damn sure. Remove Zayed. Sorry, in a delicate stage today.
Okay, we have Satoshi. Who are? Why are you doing it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no! You're trying to make me sound like the big connect guy, right? He knows how I feel about them.
Connect. You know what's funny, Riley? That I'm pretty sure Sayed's account is
Satoshi's bride 15th alt account, and she couldn't get up here with her Satoshi's bride account,
so she brought Sayed, thinking that I would be more sympathetic towards a guy.
It's not gonna happen. No. There, there are some people. I'm sorry, dude.
I like draw some lines sometimes. Some people that like take away from my energy, take away from.
Yeah, but at least, at least I waited. Yeah, I know. I'm glad you did wait till Charles is gone,
because I would have fucking been so pissed. Anyways, but um. Yeah, interesting,
interesting situation. Now she's coming up with Weasley Huber. That's another.
Everybody's getting blamed on Satoshi's bride now because she got like thirty million.
I don't think that. It doesn't matter to me. And sorry, everybody's gonna be reaping
the repercussions of Satoshi's bride today. Take it up with her, not me. But anyways, yo, crazy,
crazy. I mean, we were already having a crazy conversation, right? Me and Riza.
I wouldn't say going at it. Just having an objective conversation, which I think Micro
and Michele contributed to, and then boom, here comes Charles, and I'm like, oh my god,
here I'm about to be in Cucuño, you know what I'm saying? Bro, John Cena follows Wesley.
You don't want to let him up? No. John Cena needs to follow me if they follow Wesley.
Who Wesley wants to speak? Follows everyone. No, no, no, him. If John Cena follows Wesley,
I'm gonna let him up. Who gives a fuck? Um, if John Cena follows Wesley,
and why the fuck are you calling me, man? Um, if John Cena for the last time, for God's sake.
If John Cena follows Wesley and Wesley wants to pull up in my space, that means John Cena
should follow me by default. Wesley, what do you think about that? Just tell me real quick
before I freak out. They connect. Man, I think yeah, those guys gotta own up to that hack
and and follow you. See what I'm saying? What does John Cena have anything to do with owning
that hack? I don't even think he understood what you were getting at. He was talking about
John Cena, Wesley. I'm waiting for my water filter to my my bad finish filtering this water,
so I can get rid of my yo, yo, Wesley. I've seen these few of you before, though, Wesley. Yes, sir.
Yes, it's my actual face. He's been in your spaces before, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, sir.
I didn't follow him back. I just followed you back, bro. Where? Anyways, yo, Wesley, what's up?
What do you got to contribute to the current situation? Why? What are you? No,
just not not in like that. This is when I just yo like overall wholesome thought process. Yeah,
appreciate it, man. Appreciate Web three blockchain stuff. Been following this space for a while.
Was gonna say in current news, just the Haskell programming language in general saw like
a big company that was using Haskell leave it, and I just I have Claude Max with tons of tokens,
and I'm like, how can I contribute to this Cardano Midnight infra and stuff? And I'm like,
can we get the Cardano Rust node going or like Midnight Rust node or like I know we got Riley
and like we had Phil up here, but like, do you guys have any advice of like where I could help out
as there's a Rust node and a Go node being developed right now. Word. So maybe I can contribute to
that, or do I have to be like? Yeah, I mean, I'm sure they'd be happy to take your contributions.
I don't know if they're looking to hire anyone else to work on it. That's okay. There is some.
I already have a job. I'm not looking to get hired. I just want to like. Yeah,
if you want to contribute, Chris from Blink Labs or K Tours from Cardano Foundation.
Sorry for the hiccups again. I'm waiting for my water to filter. But either of those people
would probably be good to reach out to, and also probably look at the contribution guidelines that
they have on the the Git repos. One note is called Ding Dingo. Leads look at contribution guidelines
for sure. Yeah. But no, like ten thousand code. But anyway, dingo. Don't listen to him.
Just take Cadle's proposal, submit a new proposal for another one, and make your own.
And then we can have another one. We need another node. Dingo is the one written in Go,
and it's from Blink Labs. So if you look up Blink Labs Dingo, you should find it.
And the other one is Pragma Amaru. Yeah, yeah, A M A R U. Can you hold it? Okay. Hold on,
I'm gonna pull Riley out of here. No, don't pull me, fuck, dude. I promise my hiccups
will go away as soon as I drink some water. I'm just waiting. Not only that,
we should go pour out the not filtered water into my mouth, but if I don't wait, okay, fine.
You know, how do my? Why doesn't my mute button work? Because I'm fucking co-host. Oh, you're right.
Anyways, if anybody out here be like, hey guys, I got some questions and shit. Anybody help me on?
Cool. And then you take it right to your DMs, cause not every fucking great citizen
of the blockchain metaverse deserves to listen to your damn back and forth bullshit ass. Yeah,
you leave him, Michael. Oh my, Michael's gotta go do some work. Yeah, Michael's gotta go
some holidays or some. Yeah, I gotta do some stuff. Mhm. That's good. That's good. That's good.
That's good. But let's talk about plane. We gotta figure out these plane tickets. Yo, yo, relax.
What? Shut the hell up! Hey, I'm not saying anything about what it is.
But there'll be plane tickets. I'll be flying out to Oregon. You know, come to Oregon.
Oregon is the land of the trees. We got we got the redwoods and shit. We're gonna go camping. Well,
I need to know because I need to. Yeah, yeah, we got doctor's appointments and shit. Yeah,
we got you. We almost give it. We gave the whole sauce. What's up, the sauce? I was. Yeah.
I was gonna say I had a question. Ask us. I'm gonna hit you in the DMs. Muscle Samurai. Oh my God.
This is this stage is getting okay. We got Sawyer Cole. Who the hell Sawyer Cole?
But we're gonna let him up anyway. Hold on. Let's bring the dolls up here because yeah, bro.
We got a big audience and Charles ain't here anymore. So. Anybody want to chill? Chill your shot,
bro. I have something to say. Oh no no no! Hold on hold on. Yo, can I can I get another beer?
Absolutely not! You are fucked up right now, Esco. You can't be drinking more beer.
My hiccups are gone because I drink a bunch of water. No, what I need is to have.
What I need is less anxiety. So can you give me a Xanax? I got mad anxiety.
You need to pop in a three milligrams Xanax. Xanax, Xanax, not the six percent.
I mean six milligrams, but the three milligrams. Anyways, let's bring this muffler up here, cool.
And then we got cool's got the hand up. Somebody was trying to yap. Besides Damien,
because Damien is gonna take at least twenty minutes. So who was before they? That was me.
All right, go ahead, crypto. Just hey, mom, hey, yo, crypto. Just let me tell you,
I didn't want to do that. I love it, you know. I mean, I think you grind for the cabal,
the the familia, and you know we are here all day, every day. But yo, ass,
try to jump the fucking car. You try to jump the the line and stuff. So I'd be like, whoo,
you know what I mean? But go ahead. Yeah, no, that was my bad. I just wanted to try
and get Charles before he left there, but it's all good. I was I was just gonna ask about
the wallet connection thing and seeing if there was something we could do about it,
like kind of get it, you know, get get something more standard going across the board.
But I'm starting to learn a little bit as to why maybe just because like. I don't know,
like eternal mode for eternal wallet, yada yada, Nami mode, blah blah blah. So like, there's,
I guess, just certain things that certain wallets do that other wallets don't in Cardano,
and I guess that's why some of these DApps don't use the standard properly.
But it's kind of annoying. So I was just gonna try and bring that up to Charles there,
see if there was something that could be done. Yeah, yeah, you can definitely submit that to info
at upgoodonly.org.net.metaverse, and we'll ask that question to himself.
There will be a ninety-nine dot ninety-nine dollar fee for us to ask that question,
and it'll go one thousand percent to the Escobar's Bank Account Foundation.
So I'm just being transparent out here, Christian Jesus, because you know we got to make the back,
but nonetheless, I feel you. Okay, all jokes aside, you know, an interesting situation, and.
I try to do my best at protecting the discourse that's important, or directly coming from
the sources, right? And if we have time outside of like the source context on what's going on,
then of course we can all ask and ask whatever. And unfortunately, today we didn't have time after.
You know, his time. I can't. I ain't paying for his time. Shit, I can't afford that. But yeah,
hopefully he comes back and we can, you know, ask more questions and whatnot.
So I didn't mean to be rude by any means. The same thing with my bro, Big Bags or Sanka and shit.
Like Sanka was like posting some cockroach tweet up top on the jumbotron, and I'm like, Sanka,
you know, like some of my friends are, you know, Bags. I love Bags. That's what's my boy. You know,
he's having fun and shit, and you know, like this. But I'm trying to get the opportunities that
I can to get information from the source. And I think that is extremely valuable. So sometimes I,
I have to like bootstop or this and that or whatever. And I hope that people don't take it personal
because I'm not doing it in a personal way. Go ahead, Angry. What's up? Yeah,
you know it's wild times, you know. But these days, these days too shall pass, you know. Yeah,
we're moving everything to XRP now. We'll be moving XRP. We're gonna move Angry. That's a good man.
That's a good man. I like that. Would you look at that? That's sick, Charles. Yeah,
I'll have to listen to the recording. Yeah, sounds good. Wait, you weren't here
when Charles was here? Yeah, right. You were. You were in the grease trap, bro. Stop capping.
I was not. I was 100% not in the grease trap. If I was, I would tell you. Okay, cool.
There's 32 people in the grease trap. That's crazy. Someone empty out that grease trap, bro. Ah,
yeah. Um, but you know, stuff happens. So it is what it is. Uh, it would be great if people had
some more decorum and and um etiquette. I don't think they would act like this with Charles IRL. Um,
so you know, just something to think about. Is like respect people. You know,
if you don't see eye to eye, then maybe I don't know. Agree to disagree. Just be civil.
Be objective. Like I'm seeing sky high ad hominem, and it's just like it just doesn't.
It's all good. No, no, no ways. Well, we got a couple heads here. So before we go to Dame Diamond D,
A.K.A. Damian, A.K.A. Our local. This is why the fuck I never put my hands up. Let's go. No, no, no.
But we, we, you got somebody before you, bro. Yo, go ahead. Sawyer Cole, the owl. Yeah,
and then we go to Diamond D. Yeah, I just came into the space late. I saw Charles was in here,
but didn't get to hear his statement. I was curious as to what he had to say.
So what you're telling me is you come into a space and you just request to come to speak
or to listen to the motherfucker speaking, or you just you you avoid staying down there
in the listener section to listen to the people you're trying to. I need to.
I think Charles was really trying to ask. He said your reaction time. Did you have anything
with you? Reaction time was too slow. But anyway, so what he said was, is right now.
Can you hear me, Doctor? Tell. It is a bridge, a one chain bridge between B and B and midnight.
He can't hear it, but no one gives a shit. So hold on, what I was saying is
that Eska was trying to get across a point to Sawyer here that Sawyer can either give some input
or he can just clout farm here on the stage until there's another request. Doctor Oz, I'm sorry,
but you can't just you can't cut me off when I'm the co-host. I heard you. I have heard
non-important shit. Yeah, hold on, hold on. We're de-centralizing. Yeah, hold on a second.
I can't yell. I'm in public. I can't yell. Rule number one, Sawyer. You pull up to a space. Sawyer,
call. If you wanna listen, you stay in the listening section. You don't have to like request
to pull up to listen from the speaker panel. Oh my god! Here's what he said. He missed it.
He had to come up here to get the clarity of what Charles said. You slow fuckers.
That's what he was getting at. He missed it. He came up to ask what Charles said,
but you two kept interrupting him. Anyway, so we're back to what. But you better relax.
The fuck do I look like it? I look like it on my wang. I fucking weird face paint on
and blowing balloons. And man, I can't. Little Timmy on the fucking. This would be way funnier
if Doctor Oz was co-host and you couldn't mute him. Yeah. Oh, it would be way better. Yeah. Well,
yeah. It's a hack right now on the bridge, my homie. It's all bad. Five hundred million.
The dude still got a sixty-two. As I can see right now, sixty-two million two hundred
six thousand two hundred fifty-three point seventeen market. Every so often, he's chucking about.
Tree milli on the market, but once this is out, you know what I mean. I I don't know about
anyone else. I'm not. This is not financial. That's how I asked. What happened to your microphone?
What happened to your speaker microphone thing going on? I'm probably hitting the cord, man.
I'm hitting the cord, maybe. I don't know, man. Earlier it sounded fucked up.
Right now you sound fine, man. You went from FM to AM. You went from FM to AM. Yeah, bro,
it was a rotary phone. You know, man. Yeah, rotary phone. It was from Elon's internet.
You guys muting me. It's a combination of the two. I'm gonna go with that one. Anyways, but yo,
shout out to Sawyer. Sorry we didn't reply on time, and you couldn't clarify your questions
and all type of shit. Sometimes it goes like that, you know. It's what it is. But you know what?
Clarity act. You can definitely. And that really was the synopsis with Doctor Oz. No, no, no.
The hack. That was it. Let me sell our marketing seminar, dude. Up good only. If you're not up good,
don't show up to Up Good Radio. If you're not up good, don't show up to Rare Radio.
This is your rare minute. This is. You can't even mute him. I can't. I know. I know. Yo, so sorry.
Later on in life, when you got 19.99, every 30 days, you will definitely get priority up here. So
if you're a member of our cabal, that you just send us 19.99 in tether through a mixer to a wallet
that nobody knows, it converts to zcash, it is untraceable. Then you just boom,
expedited to ask all your questions, and that's just how it works. You know what I'm saying?
But yeah, appreciate you pulling up. He has he has a nice PFP. I like that owl.
So Cole is he's vibe farming. He don't give a fuck what I'm saying, bro. But I ain't even mad,
though. He can chill up here until we don't have space. Then he'll just be the first to go
unless he has something to say. I'm not. All right, Damien. This is why I should be co-host.
Damien's arm's broken. He's had it up for 40 seconds. I can't even see that shit on my screen.
Is Damien really holding his hand up? I don't even believe it. Yeah, yeah.
You all know I am a sinner, and I'm probably gonna sin again. But Lord, forgive me.
You already sin in this space, Damien. No, no. There's a problem because I am a Iceman fan.
Let me put my Iceman fucking picture on so you you're forgetting. Why?
Why you forgetting that I am the Iceman fan? You motherfucker trying to pull up with this Kendrick?
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait a minute, boys. No, I'm not gonna let you get away with that. No,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Bigger, ne? Yeah. Where's the Iceman picture, man? Damn.
This is just about to fall. Brother, can you hear me? Yeah, of course. Alright, cool.
Thank you for giving me the time to properly find my next PFP. I love and I appreciate you
for doing that, boy. Okay, I just have to remind this motherfucker: this ain't no Kendrick camp.
Oh wait, no, no, no, no, big man next. Okay, here we go. Everybody on the stage,
everybody listening, we are the Ice Men now. If he's selling this shit at this rate,
he's gonna be done in three hours. That's good. Yeah, he's got like twenty-two more sales.
What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? Bitcoin? The thing that's funny, Riley.
The thing that's funny, he had he like. There's not that much liquidity, right?
He would have to go to go to a centralized exchange. You have to KYC. And Cardano, there's
limited liquidity, so he had to literally play between these two stablecoins. He was liquidating.
He was liquidating USD everything. USDC, USDM, IUSD, USDA, everything.
Everything he could to get all they could. And I think they're limited on what they can get out now,
so it slowed down. Yeah, well, it slowed down. It slowed down by approximately three x, right?
Because it was every three minutes, and then it went to every ten minutes.
And if he gets to the point where he feels like it, he'll probably increase the time between sales,
and maybe he'll even decrease the amount he's selling. We got 500 million. Charles said, right?
So he started this more than then. It's been going on price since last night.
I think early this morning. When I looked at it earlier, I saw the first transfer into the wallet
that is selling ten hours prior to when I looked, which was already a number of hours ago
before I think Esco started the space. If I remember, it was during. I'm just taking a piss
right now. But what are you yapping about? Well, there's there's two wallets. He has a old wallet.
He has a wallet he's selling out of, and then he has a wallet he's transferring to. Yo,
I need y'all. I need y'all to be more funny, man. Like everybody's so serious. Like,
can you all be so like funny? You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna go take a shit
and I'm gonna hold the mic like right next to. Keep alive, mic, top mic.
You can tell Asco has no midnight. You know, he's Asco. Oh man, I got. I got more minutes than you.
I got more minutes than you. And Riley stuck at night right before the crash. Okay, Mr. Won Chan,
Mr. Kim Won Esco is out here with these North Koreans hacking bridges. King Yo Esco,
that that card done on North Korean leader. Ice man. Yeah. You wanna make? Okay,
let me find this damn video, bro. This shit's most fishy. But that that that hacker,
he started from the bottom and now he's here, all the way up. He's decentralizing the token price.
We just didn't say which direction. The problem is, is they're not going to know Cardona
well enough to pull it off without slipping somewhere, and they'll be spending the night with Sam.
I think that he's he's learning on the job. Yeah, he's learning on the job. Oh no no no no no!
You think he's a Messi fan? No, the person doing this is definitely not learning on the job.
I'll tell you that much. Yo, but the seller's definitely not a fan of Ronaldo, right?
Ronaldo fan wouldn't do this. What do you mean? Like hundred percent, he's pissed at Argentina. No,
he he is a he's a Cristiano Ronaldo fan. Definitely not. He's pissed Argentina didn't win from VAR
and reps and all that. No, he started with Mbappe because he's selling fast,
and then the fastness didn't work. So we start doing the the the Messi because the Messi
also always walks around on the field, gets the ball, starts running a little bit,
and then he that that's the way it's going. Can we call up some like reps VAR this shit?
Can we like go back in time or something? Wanchan, I'm gonna call Wanchan. Yo,
today you know what this motherfucker said. Yeah, I gotta heck on the Wanchan. Yo,
this motherfucker said the World Cup, the World Cup was finished yesterday. We need to give him
another World Cup. You know what I'm saying? Like that's good. Maybe he lost. Maybe bet.
He maybe did a Drake bet and he's like, fuck. I got. Yeah, I know. That'd be funny
if everyone pulled the LP and he just sat on like. He's happy. He can sell all the way
because there's no hydration break anymore. So he's selling that shit. Yeah, right.
There's no hydration clause. There's no offside. You're right. No, no halftime show. Yo, anyway,
now this turning to like the after party. What I'm saying? This turning to like the after party
of the after party of the comedy show and shit. What the fuck we doing? Anyways,
I want to give a shout out to all the fam up here that show up every fucking day.
Shout out to Dr. Oz. Shout out to my co-host and fucking Street Reporter Clapper, no Trapper,
aka Riley. Microprose said, "Fuck it, I'm gonna leave, but I'm gonna stay up here regardless.
" Cause you know what time it is. Ed and stuff said like 17 fucking micron syllables,
and he still posted up up here. That's rare, cause he usually just. Goes away.
Diamond D pulling up with the shits. He said, "Uh, uh, what? I don't even know." Johnny, yo,
shoutouts to Johnny Five. I ain't even gonna cap. And I'm not gonna tell you
why I'm giving Johnny Five one of the biggest shoutouts ever. That's my fucking dog.
You know what I mean? Don't be a Swiss Army knife, motherfuckers. Make sure
that you a real sharp dagger and you know exactly what you're stabbing. Sawyer,
you got away with this one because I like owls. My fucking daughter loves owls for some reason.
We were just at the goddamn Oregon Zoo, right? And they had like the whole owl right here,
and it moves its head like 360 and shit. So I gave you a pass today. You got you got free,
but next time it's gonna cost you 19.99 for your membership, no cap. USDT through Tornado Cash,
so nobody can know I get paid. Crypto Jesus, I like to slide. This man was about to go in.
You know what I mean? Like, yo, hey, Charles. You know what I mean? Like, he was going up.
I was like, I'm sorry, bro. I can't let you do that. Shoutout to Dimostini,
one of my oldest amigos in the space. T Pat, oldest motherfucker in the metaverse.
One of the realest. Shoutout to you for, you know, being daddy now. I can officially call you daddy.
It sounds crazy, but. I call you daddy, anyways. Even though you ain't Hispanic, they call me Papi,
and then they call me Daddy now because I'm a dad. But um, anyway, okay. We got Caneric,
Caneric the DJ. He got he got headphones for a reason. I mean, he loves DJing. Shout out to
Envy Steak Poop for showing up all the time. Stash showing love all the time. Richie, Richie,
Richie, Richie, can you save me? I see you down there, Richie. Um, Tamacat, one of the realists,
always shares the spaces. Not only just show up, I always shares the spaces.
Let's keep it one thousand with Tamika, bro. And yo, Tamika, too. I'm sorry,
I try to hook you up with like two of these damn nerds on the internet before I miss. I forget.
I forget. I forget, dude. Every time. Every time. Every time. I'm trying to get y'all laid,
motherfuckers, but we need some like shorties up in here, not the ones I already got dudes.
Cause I forget, you know them. So my bad, Tam. Hey, yo, shout out Professor Oak. Yo,
you better stop getting these Memphis involving Pokemon, man. We lost all the influencers
to ripping packs and showing cleavage. I'm just my bad, but it's a fact.
And then all these whole platforms for cleavageery. You know what I mean?
And just sign up right here if you got cleavage to sell fucking your PSA tans or something.
I'm it's cooked, bro. But that's your fault, Professor Oak, because you train Ash Ketchup's ass
and you know fucking whatever that girl's name is. I'm glad she don't lookin' no Dragon Ball Z Bulma
because it's even creepier if it was. If she would have been looking like Bulma, um. Who else?
Who else we got up in here? Yo, shout out to Wilco, one of my dogs. Thank you for all the help
along the line, bro. I ain't even gonna troll too much. You one of the real motherfuckers,
and we're we're getting somewhere. You see, it only took two and a half years,
but we're fucking getting somewhere. Let's go, yo. Uh, let's shout out to Crypto Gaines,
one of the most uninterested in methods ever. If you look at his picture, he's all uninterested.
And the shorty in the background for him. Shout out to Yuri for showing up every day. Hold on,
I'm I'm trying to cruise here. Shout out to the force. The force keeps it real on the timeline.
Emon, one of my fucking mutant, mutine fam. This Memphis got me into the mutant fam,
and now one of my IRL company brand businesses is branded after Bore Mutant, a mutant PFP and shit.
So shoutouts to that. We got J.K. I used to throw hundreds for Yori. Yeah, yeah, shout out to you,
alright, bro. But it's the thing, and you know what? I give a shout out to every motherfucker,
even the haters, man. Every once in a while, I see some members in here that were like against me,
super, super tough. When you know, when, when, when, what's the stupid ass name?
I already forgot him. You see, that's how irrelevant this piece of shit was. Eden, yeah,
when Eden was coming at me, 'cause I caught him stealing, is you know, being cringing shit.
You know, when, when, and then him, and what's the other name? Greed Malcolm.
When them motherfuckers were pining up against me, I seen a couple of you in here.
You were tagging along, but I forgive you, bro. I ain't even mad. It was just supporting
the current thing and shit. And you had to be against me because I was just waving shit, whatever.
Cool. But I love you, bro. I take I take screenshots of you being in my spaces,
and and just as a little memory of like, man, we grow up, we evolve, we move on.
No hate from my heart to you at all. Yeah, it was a long time ago. A whole different energy
and everything. Who else do we got up in this bitch? Um, forty five B. I don't know who you are.
I've heard you speak very rarely before, but you know I appreciate you coming to my spaces
all the time. Um, eight ball. I've seen that PFP before. Apostolis definitely spoken to you before.
Your life is good, so I make sure that everybody's up here up good. That's the name of the space.
It's up good. If you're struggling with anything, IRL or psychological or anything,
you make sure you reach out to your friends. Stop buying
all these scammer ass fucking community tokens. Don't do that, because ain't nobody gonna be
able to help you with that. But yeah, I just have to do my rounds, and I love everybody else, bro.
I'm just giving my rounds and shit because that's what we do. If you've never been here before,
then shit, now you know. I just want to give a. I've never been here before. I don't get it.
Ronaldo's the goat. I just want to give a shout outs to the shout outs of all the shout outs
of all the motherfuckers shouting out Ronaldo, ACR7, Emil, Yamal, Emil, Yamal, Yamal.
If you're talking about Ronaldinho, I'm rich. No way, Dimos showed up. No, Dimos always.
I was here the whole time. Shout out, Riley Laser. No way, Dimos here the whole time. Yeah, Dimos.
I haven't seen Dimos in a month. I haven't seen Dimos in a month. You guys love to joke around.
You guys. Demos left us for XRP, bro. He he took all. Yeah, that's right.
Demos loves XRP so happy though. How excited Demos is! This is why you can't.
This is why you can't reshare this Mexican's spaces because he doesn't know how to appreciate.
Out of the seven people who actually know that he puts in so much work,
that he deserves a little repost. I'm one of the people who always reposts them every single day,
whether I'm in his space or not. And this is how he does. I only came up here to say, well, Astor,
you told us not to buy community scam tokens, but we were here talking about the WanChan exploit,
and and we were talking about nights. So what are you getting by saying that? Wait,
what happened to me? Damn, bro, he got you. Hold on, I didn't hear that. He's eating one thing.
Shut the hell up. That's because pretending not to have heard. No, no, no,
I was telling my girl that my friend just invited us to empanadas for his fucking birthday at 5 p.m.
And it's fucking 4:29. So you better fucking repeat that shit, cause you know I'm I'm up
for the games all day. What's up, Demos? The hell did I do? What did I say?
And what do you want confirmation from? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go. You're the one attack. Hey,
you're the one. Let's go, motherfucker. Let's go. What's up? I said that.
I said that I'm always reposting your space. You heard that part at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No,
you, dude. I literally said, Demos always shows up as I'm walking inside my door. All right,
I left you for XRP. Never. Oh, that came after. Listen, listen. You did say, hey, you know,
don't buy these scam community tokens. But the whole time we've been talking about Knight
and the Wan Chain exploit. So, what are you getting at exactly? No, you know,
the one that I just got rinsed on 1700. Oh, it's called Dream. Oh, you know,
you want me to go down the list? Because this guy's stretching. Did I warn you?
Did I warn Way too spicy. No, actually. That's what I. No, not actually.
I got a. Is that a live performance from T-Pat? That was a dream. It was just a dream.
I told Asma right away. I told you, and I never do that. If you look at my Demos wallet, no,
hold on. Let me let me get that particular one. When I saw that one, I was like, Yo,
let me hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out. Hear me out.
I got to give this to Demos. I gotta get cooked. Demos was like, man, they're leveraging us for this
and that or whatever. That is big, motherfuckers, man. They're leveraging us on this and blah blah.
That's big, dumpy. Collect it back because that's ultimately a service, right?
They put you on the fucking website for a reason, isn't it? I was like, you know what?
I didn't sell it. Right when when it was worth three hundred dollars, that shit went
up to nine hundred and like fifty something dollars or something, and I didn't fucking sell it.
I should have listened to Demos, man. You know what I mean? So that's why I'm gonna leave it there
because the shit got even more grave. Because then, yeah, I'm saying yeah, bad. Yeah,
why wasn't I in this? I heard I'm driving. That's why I suck at trading, Asco. No,
I would have sold that. That's what you get, Asco, for being too fucking nice. You know.
I sold good, yo. Shout out to Pete. Yo, Pete, pull up up here, man. You never get to speak.
You only pull up with your little your picture that looks like you're a convict.
What does it say on your chest? Oh, it is beware of scammers. Shout out to Pete, man. We get it.
Pete, we get it. No, Pete's cool, man. Pete's cool. Shout out to nice big unlocks, you know,
and price action. So shout out to unlocks and price action. What's up with your cheeky reply
on my post a day later? Because, bro, I'm not. I'm not terminally online, bro. I'm just.
I'm sporadically online. You know, I'm like an ADHD motherfucker who just pulls up
when he feels like it, and he sees, oh no, we went, we lost fifty percent of our value in a day.
Sick. I was worried, T Pat. I'm not gonna lie. When this first unfolded, I'm like, "Damn,
T Pat ain't showed up. The charts wrecked. He's he's in Cabo. He's happy, you know." It was T Pat.
Everybody was. No, we were all joking about it. We were all saying, "Oh, T Pat did it." T Pat was.
And then it just kept happening, and we were like, "Man, this is more than T Pat said he had,
though." Yeah, that's definitely more. I got. Yeah, what's it hit? Five hundred million. I was like,
the same T Pat. Let's keep it a buck. I can't even put it in that chart.
But it did put a dent in what it's worth right now. So you know, shout out to holding.
Community member, as they say, that that's what I'm at. That's what I am now, bro.
My community members want to unlock the tap tools, bro. Deep, deep end. Can I tell you a secret?
I unlocked my third. How do you think I felt? I I literally told three days ago people.
They bought almost a million. One dude literally hit me up like probably two hours ago,
and he was like, because all month he's been buying this shit. I'm like, bro, slow down, like. Dude,
you can't be buying through unlocks. That's crazy. You have to wait until the unlocks are over
and then buy. He bought a million of. He messaged me this morning. I was like, man,
I told you to chill. He's like, should I put more in? I'm like, like, bro, I don't know, man. Oh,
dude, the best. You say yes at this point. Yes, you might as well double down. I did. I did.
I told him. Relax, relax, relax. Yo, Esco, are you hanging out the window smoking? Hold on, man.
Hold on. Of course, bro. I already heard him take a hit. These motherfuckers.
I think they know the footprint of my. You got the whole Wi-Fi shit. That's why I came up here.
I heard his ass hanging out the window, puffing on that. I heard the. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm. I'm actually gonna slide now. I'm gonna slide.
Okay, okay. The thing is, I need you. Well, fuck you, Sanka. Okay. Now I am actually
outside the window. Okay. Let's go. Yo, that's how you know shit gets triangulated.
Fucking Sanka's triangulating what's in Esco's hand. Either extremely happy or a little stressed.
Yeah, it's either or. That's true. It's either. Life is good. I'm unaffected.
Made the bag this year with positive, you know, five figures plus on whatever, and we'll be good.
Howling, bro. Seconds, I got the window, bro. Dude, it's low. Like, that sounds. No, honestly,
Esco said earlier in the space he already sold all of his fucking nights, so. Way before,
like he got out of the way, and now I hope he picked up some extra. Yeah, but I'm thinking about,
dude. Like, if I was, bro, because I haven't bought any night yet, but like right now,
I'm I'm waiting for this guy to stop selling. Like, I'm waiting for him to run out.
How much is left? What's left? Fuck, I think he's down to like sixty at this point. Sixty million.
The price is up. I'm even eyeing the chart, bro, because I really might throw something at night.
Because that's what I'm saying. Like, right. I'm up twenty. I'm up.
I'm up twenty three hundred eight. So you already know how much I picked up.
I need to purchase the exact amount that I got for free, right?
And I haven't even started purchasing, so now it's probably like a good time to start.
That'd be ten x long strike. Right now, the buys are outpacing the sells for sure. Like on
Binance Perps, it got down to point oh one five, but it's back up at point oh one eight nine.
Who's got what left? Sixty mil? Yeah, under under sixty mil. Fifty six. He has Zanka.
He has exactly fifty six point two mil. Yep. And the total was three hundred and something, right?
When he Charles said five hundred. But he also he may have more in another wallet.
We we might be because he was transferring into this wallet from a different wallet.
So I I don't know. And I looked at that other wallet, and that one was out.
But he may have had multiple that he was transferring from. Are we done with unlocks yet? No,
we got one more unlock. Under the one, he's literally sold eighty million, and it's went up.
Another three months or something. Yeah, three months close. You'll see me buying.
In between the next unlock and after the next unlock, that's that's the time.
I picked up in one clip, and I'm telling up front, I'm selling you one clip,
and I don't want no crybabies. Just saying. It's okay, baby. Fucking fullback Hitler, that bitch,
bro. FSA. Ain't shit wrong with that, bro. Nobody's worried about your two dollars, damn. Yeah,
nobody's worried. We had 190 billion dollars sold on us. Nobody cares about your tank, man.
Stop attacking the guy. God damn it, yo! It's so he has 5.7 mil eight left. Bought like
fifty thousand bucks or something. No, I'm just kidding. It's not 183k USD value.
Then he has fucking 196k USDM and 94k in USDA. Then for some reason he's holding some bullshit
called Bubble and some shit called OneClip. Oh, I think I know who that is.
Where's my crypto Canuck at? Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Now we calling names.
Oh, whoa! Well, wait, and you saw that he's got 26 or some odd million ADA in a another wallet
that he's been. Yeah, what wallet is that? Yeah, okay. There's there's three there's like
three wallets that I've seen. I've seen the wallet where he has the knight
and he transfers it to the sale wallet. I've seen the sale wallet itself,
and then I've seen a wallet where he transfers the ADA after he's done selling.
So I've seen three wallets. There might be more. Give me those addresses, Riley.
What's a good situation that like encapsulates this whole? I can, but right now I'm eating ramen out
of a cup, so I'm gonna finish my my meal here. The richest pork I've ever. That's the most un. Dude,
that's the most un-Riley shit I've ever. It's delicious, dude. I mixed cheese in it.
I took a baby bell cheese. Yeah, I threw that shit in there. He's slowly getting into like making
his own meal. He's like, I drive the Lambo while eating. What do you mean slowly, bro?
The first thing I made, I went to the Asian supermarket and they have the pre-sliced beef.
So I got like the thinly sliced wagyu, and then I took it. I put it. I I individually took
the pieces. I put it into a freezer bag. I put some soy sauce and some mirin
and some sesame oil in your cup of noodle, bro. We don't. No, absolutely not. No, I I put it.
I I did it with rice and with kimchi and natto, bro. Oh, you eat nada too, bro. Nada, bro.
Don't let these boys hate on your food, Riley. Enjoy your. Your girl eats nada. Hold on, hold on.
Like a fiend, straight nada. Bro, Vikram's eating better than Riley. Let me stop. Let me stop.
Let me stop. Let me stop. All right, cool. Esco doesn't want to talk about nada. No, I don't.
Grosses him out. Dicky ass, lily ass. No, no nada. I sent him a picture. This,
this is what's important. You haven't even smelled it yet. Exactly, it smells like shit. Oh,
it's got um. What about menudo? Esco, do you eat that shit? That couple noodle. What? What is that?
No menudo. What I I stopped eating couple noodles when I was in college. Oh, the Mexican noodles,
the Mexican soup thing, menudo or no, but wonton. Oh, wonton soup. You have to eat,
we have to drink wonton soup. A wanchain soup. You're lucky right now that my phone is at
three percent and I don't have alternative batteries, so I gotta plug in and talk like this.
Otherwise, I'd be playing you all the music and just trolling big time. But anyway, you know,
life is good. All I gotta say is Charles and Charles were pulling up and giving the heads up
on the vibes for the facts of what is known. That's very important because otherwise, Sanka
and what was his name—the Australian wolf—I'm gonna call him the Australian shark.
I'm gonna call him the Australian. What do you call the big shark? The Australian rizza. Yeah,
the rizza. Rizza. We were addressing a situation. Prior to Charles pulling up, and I was like, "Yo,
you know what, Rizzler? Let's have a conversation, okay? You know." And we were getting to it,
and even when Charles pulled up, I was like, "Yo, Charles, give us a minute.
We got to finish this one situation right here real quick." And Charles let us finish the situation,
and then we moved on. True or false? Charles ain't trying to like dominate the space and nothing.
He's trying to. Bring the facts, and I'm glad that he feels comfortable coming into this space
where he is going to be respected for giving. And he's also not in here to take shit though.
Like he'll let you finish your thing before he starts speaking, but he is not in here to take
anybody's shit. He made that very clear with bags. Yo, by the way, that that blue face cockroach
jumping off his girl fucking video I posted that way before Charles came in here.
All I saw it of some. Sanka was, I was just like, okay, shit's going on,
and then I see a Sanka post up there. It's like some cockroach, something like. It was so funny.
I was out of happy hour, and I see that's the only post on the top, and I was like, yo, yo, yo,
you got this wild shit up. What's up with like little bag? What's up with little bag glitching out
from time to time? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Yo, bags is my dog, okay. Bags, my homie. Sanka is my homie.
We all fucking friends here, and sometimes, you know, we just have to protect the environment
so we can get the information that we need to get. Then you see how we respect. You you see how we.
I had to, I had to. Um, but it's all okay now. You see how we resumed the fuck shit
and we talking whatever, whatever. But that, but that wouldn't, but that wouldn't have,
that wouldn't have facilitated us getting like the bit of alpha that we needed to get.
So you're like, bro, this ain't no. Come on, man. How many DMs did you get? We know them crying.
Be honest. Every time you still get DMs like that. You're an engineer,
and you knew what what happened, Sanca. Tell me, you knew. No, but he. I mean, we all.
He just reiterated what everyone already said, but no, it was important.
But we really didn't get any new info. Let's be real. Oh, but it was important. But you know why we?
I think I no. The reason it was the reason it was important is because some people probably did get
new info, Sanca. Some people joined the space when they saw Charles in here, and so you know. No,
you're right. No, there's value in. Yeah, you're right on that. You're right on that. You know,
this is another fucking space. No, another, another, another blunt, raw truth. Like,
can I give you like another fucking just blunt ass truth? Is motherfuckers,
I implore you to start your own spaces, so then I don't have to be the only single motherfucker
to blame for A B C D through Z. So if you hosted spaces alongside my spaces,
we need somebody to blame. Oh, now you're gonna cut me off, or you're gonna let me finish?
I won't even bother. I swear to God, man, they're despicable motherfuckers. Yo,
I implore you to start start your own spaces, so you can have your own seasoning over there.
If you want to fight it to zero, cool, that's on your vibes. You know, over here,
this is how it's handled, and this is how it's always been handled. Can we agree on that?
That ain't changing. It ain't fucking changing, and it hasn't changed to this day.
When Charles pull up. If if um CF fucking founder was to ever pull up,
if fucking you know the dude from Emergo would pull up, whoever would pull up of
of some significant level, I would treat them all the same. I've said that a million fucking times,
and it's not going to change. You know why? Because I know my position.
I'm here to listen to the people who actually know the facts and share it with people
that don't know the facts. And I'm going to prioritize the people with the facts
because everybody else got conspiracy theories. Is that some strange you know misconception? No.
By anyways, go ahead, Sanka. Oh, he got double muted. Elon is on his ass. That was a triple mute.
No, I was just gonna say, um, how much you gonna pay me since you're gonna employ me
and not implore me. Who is employing you? Who said that? Did you go to? You said. You said.
Did you go to? You said I employ. You said I employ you. I implore you. Implore you. Implore you.
Implore. Implore. Like I, I, I, I recommend that you, you know, hold your own weight so you can do
your own thing in your own space. That doesn't reflect on me. Why is that such a strange concept?
No, no, no. I respect that. I understand what you're saying, bro. Anyways, so what else is cooking,
man? Life is good. Damian is trading for twenty-two hundred ADA. You know he's risking it all.
Shout out to Damian, bro. Ed, Ed, Ed. You're almost right, but you you left out the zero. Stop it.
You ain't making no twenty fucking thousand ADA for shit. Stop you. Come on, bro.
Why do you always try to do that? Let him cook. He's risking. He's risking twenty-two thousand ADA.
He's only gonna make like two hundred ADA, bro. Exactly. I risk it all. Watch your mouth, Riley.
This shit's gonna flip Hyperliquid, and your mom's gonna buy. I don't care if they if they take it
or something. Yo, this is what I just said. This is gonna. I'm. I'm about to buy my whole bag
back now, dude. I'm buying all my high bags. Damien just said the most ridiculous shit.
I'm buying my bags back. I guess over. Hold on. You got to wait until Baby Cheese Ramen Cup
Boy gets back. You guys are tripping. If you actually look on the timeline,
if if you look on the timeline, you will notice that none of the huge accounts that always shit on
Cardano have really reiterated this yet. So we got to wait for this to break the echo chamber.
It always takes twelve hours. Exactly. Exactly. Give it like a day or two.
It's not just the guy fucking selling everything he has. We now have to wait for it to break
the echo chamber and deal with that bullshit. So that after that, I think fuck. I think it's a buy,
bro. That's a good point. The social aftermath. This is going to be the little delay.
Because it's not Cardano, it's night, and it will be correlated to Cardano on the timeline,
and that hasn't happened yet. So that will use this as an opportunity as a low.
So what you're telling me is that we should be shorting. My question is,
remember the market maker in the beginning, Sanka? Quiet. What, Damien? I said,
remember the banker in the beginning when Night launched? Go short it. I implore you to go short it.
Oh, now everybody wants to implore, huh? You see that? Everybody wants to implore. I mean,
that was pretty smooth by him. He was like, since you ain't gonna implore me,
when you gonna implore me? Where to empower everyone? How much are we talking about? Sanka said,
how much are we talking? Yo, it's gonna be costing a putting on, putting on, and then putting off.
You get paid both ways. But no, life is good, dude. Other than that, anybody else got anything
coming up or something? What's going on? I just go to his last. So he's down to fifty three,
fifty three, two zero six, two five three, one seven. What about those other wallets, Riley?
We'll see, bro. We'll see if if he uploads some more into this wallet down when he gets to like.
Because last time, what was he at? He was at I think a little bit more than this when he got
some more put in. He did. He transferred like at sixty three, and then I flipped over. I was like,
swoo. He's only got sixty three left, and then someone's like, he just transferred. How were you?
Like swoo. What did that sound like? Well, how were you? Swoo. Yeah, yeah, that's exactly.
That's how I would test. Is he doing? Is he doing? He's doing three. Yeah, Doctor Oz. Running away.
It's kind of like going up. Wait. This was the funniest shit, right? This is the funniest shit.
So Doctor Oz, he's been around me for so long, or we've been around each other.
It's not a one way thing. We've been around each other for so long that. Doctor Oz read the signal,
the best signal on the wall, because I was first like, "Yo, DM Riley, this and that, blah,
" and then when she got a little too tense, I was like, "Ah, I shut this shit down,
" and then two seconds later, Doctor Oz was like. Woody, I'm not gonna say. Well, you know, DMs
and shit. You gotta respect DMs. Another asshole was like, "Yo, Woody, Woody, Woody," and I,
I almost replied to you. I cannot comment on this at this time on some bullshit like that.
Thank you for your attention to this matter. And I didn't. I didn't, right? And then you know,
shit kept going. And then you sent me another message, being like, "Yo,
this is what the what's on the timeline, isn't it?" And I still didn't say nothing. Of course,
you know, we stay informed over here and stuff. But I think I we know how social media works.
At this point, five and a half, almost six years of being in this shit, I know exactly what it is.
It would have been turned into speculation city, negative for the most part,
because when prices down, ain't nobody leaning towards a positive anything. So I was like, no, no,
no, we cutting this shit off instantly. And then, you know, we went to these other channels
because you know the cabal is strong. I'm telling you. Well, it took me a long time to get within
this the cabal. I was like, yo, well, I see you where I see you over there.
We pull up somewhere else, and then you know we have conversations. And then,
and then when I got the bat signal again, you know what I mean, like the Gotham bat signal.
I was like, all right, cool, let's fire back up. We at least have an idea of where this
and that is coming from, blah, and then you see, then we can have a decent conversation about.
The information that we have, not not to speculate and make up shit, because that's exactly what
we used to do all day, every day. And yeah, we we we gotta at least grow up a little bit.
Angry's just a speculator, bro. Angry thinks that XRP is going to thirty five dollars. He said so.
He's a speculator, and you shorted him. Can I say real quick? This is also why you should be careful
with scheduling tweets. Wan Chang just put out a scheduled tweet because you can tell
it's like seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like blasting random things because it it has no.
Disassociation of the issue. Yeah, you don't. It's a lack of awareness. So I mean,
what the fuck is that? Look at their bio. Their bio says like somebody sent me that.
Somebody sent me that, and it was like, yo, why is him? I feels like posting this and that.
And that's the very first thing. No, 100% is a scheduled tweet. That that is disassociated with
the severity of the issue. So the reply: You just got hacked, G. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like,
do they even realize it? Who knows? No, Charles said they're. I'm just saying, like,
that's the vibe he puts off. It could be asleep. Well, they're asleep, right?
Because they they're from Asia, right? So they're sleeping right now. So they're just waking up
and seeing all this. So they probably scheduled them while they were asleep. Um,
they're probably waking up and now they're uh, I'd say around now. And yeah, I mean,
I'll see what uh Midnight Foundation Twitter says the the Discord, but yeah, you guys.
Even respectfully, even though I brought it up, let me tell you something.
Please don't interrupt me. Just to put into perspective, something that was also a big controversy,
and it just kind of like flew off the hinges and everything. But it's important to bring it up,
and I lightly brought it up to to Charles, and he explained it on a high level. Right?
You'll remember when there was this whole little controversy about what what was called
a one-way vamping extracting bridge. Which was going to be, which is going to end up being at
some point the canonical bridge because it's trustless, blah blah. You know,
at that time when Midnight was first coming online, you know, there was a bridge that at the time
was being focused on being one way, and a lot of people didn't understand why the focus was
a one way at that time. You know, there was some finality issues. You know, like
for it to validate was like 3,600 blocks or some crazy stuff. I had to ask Micro about like why this
and that and everything. You see why multi sig bridges. And legitimate trustless bridges have
a difference. Okay, so you you got what you wanted in and out from something like OneChain,
and look at what happened. Okay, so the original bridge that Midnight was building at that time was
a one way because they were working on it right, taking the time to being trustless this and that.
And I agree. That whoever the fuck wrote the the context in the white paper of midnight fucked up,
and and it sounded like it was a one way. We're not gonna do anything else.
There's not gonna be any other bridges, you know, because they weren't referring to like
third party bridging or anything like that. They only referred to what they were working on
at that time. So it was interpreted the way that it was because that's the way that it was written.
I cannot disagree with that. You know what I mean? But this is the result of rushing
and going into multi sig type bridging. So can we at least, you see, you see how the manifestation
of what before was heavily criticized and portrayed as a vamping and extractive, you know, bridge
and this and that situation, to the to the results of a multi sig expedited bridge,
regardless of the people that worked in it, regardless of the smart contract auditors
and all sorts of stuff. This is what happens. AI is at the peak
of being used to find vulnerabilities that, like, on an ungodly non-human level. So,
just figured I'd bring that up for for everybody that was before, kind of like, you know,
jumping on that like it was like this insane intentional negative attack rather
than a technical security based approach at creating a canonical bridge for midnight in Cardano.
Yeah, but can't you make a counter argument of delaying TGE so that you have the in house bridge?
Perfected and ready, so that Finance adopts that instead of adopting main chains wrapped asset
on BNB chain. And can we make an agreement that when most of these fucking cryptocurrencies
are launched, they don't have any of that shit. Don't take anything into consideration.
This is not a unique thing to Midnight. Oh, hundred percent, it's not unique. But I think people,
yeah, underestimate the rippling effects of stuff. Well, to your point, yes.
I think Midnight got black unnecessarily. Well, it's just the internet, bro.
The internet loves to win, regardless of the truth. The internet wins based on you know
the narrative that is built and how many people you can get onto it. Yeah,
it doesn't matter the facts. Troll. Yep. Hundred percent. Well, I'm gonna put my phone down
for a second. I'll be right back. Riley can take the conversation, and you guys can keep having.
I'm gonna check in because um one of my friends' birthdays is in like a few minutes or something,
so I'm gonna check in with my fam and see
how we're gonna go over there and whatnot. But I'll be right back.
You want to say something, Angry? Feel free. Yeah. No, I was just gonna say that WanChain used
that as social proof, right? Once Binance adopted that asset when they launched it on Binance Alpha,
they used, I think, the official night contract, and then for BNB Chain,
they were trading on the BNB Chain Wrapped Night, which was the contract that Yeah, yeah.
WanChain had launched. Well, and like Charles said, it was a requirement to have some sort
of bridge, like official bridge, in order to get finance to list. So. It is what it is.
We could dance around this shoulda, woulda, coulda. Like it's what it is.
I think that's better to be solution oriented. Regarding thirty-five dollar XRP,
I mean we got Rand up in here, so you're going to get a nice reminder of XRP Ledger Foundation.
So between you and the foundation, I don't think I need to do any marketing for XRP.
So I do think thirty-five dollars is bud. I think give give XRP a chance to flip Bitcoin. Yeah.
And then we'll see if Hyperliquid does what it needs to do. Hey man, I'm all out of Hyperliquid.
Yeah, I mean, I I like just I'm just happy I'm just happy that I'm just happy that as a Ronaldo fan,
like I can sleep easy, you know. I just I'm just happy that like every team except Argentina was.
Wait, Ronaldo's on Spain, or he's on no Argentina, Portugal, Portugal, Portugal.
But like all the drama, all the favoritism was just upsetting. Basically, every single team
except for Argentina. Yeah, man. I mean, I'm uh, I'm chilling either way.
I ended up seeing things play out like cinema. I made a couple of correct predictions, uh, even
though I didn't bet on any of it, and I didn't care about any of it. I just made predictions,
kind of like the equivalent of shitposting while in esco spaces. Um, I also made
some incorrect predictions. You know, so life goes on, and I watched two of the games
throughout the entirety of the World Cup. Yeah, I didn't watch too much. Watch like maybe like two
or three of the last ones, final ones. There was two that I so I just happened to be in a restaurant
while I were playing. I didn't seek out seeing them. I just was at a restaurant
and they were playing it, and I'm like, oh, you know, I'll watch this while it's on because why not?
I mean, it's not the least entertaining thing, you know. You know that scheduled tweet though got
me laughing. I just I do not recommend anyone to do scheduled tweets on like
sensitive main accounts. Maybe like intern or even then. In moments like this,
it it shows a negligence to the blast radius of the situation and and a lack
of situational awareness. You can you can basically triangulate that both because it's 7 p.m. Sharp
for the tweet, but also because, you know, you have an ongoing sensitive issue. Yo, yo, yo!
Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah. All right, cool. Yeah,
and it's FM radio too. It's not even AM. Yeah, yeah, FM. Well, I gotta go. Of course,
friend's birthday, but I just want to say, you know, today was handled probably the best
that we could have handled this. Um, just gonna be up for more information as it comes
and see the damages and everything. Um, if you want to be like Diamond D and try to bet, you know,
fifty thousand ADA to gain seven hundred ADA at the end of it, that's a big risk to take.
But you know, you can be like Diamond D anytime, any place, any day. That's on you. And if not, um.
Yeah, so that was good. Anybody got some last words or anything? Konishu Abishis. Mhm. Mhm.
See you next week. All right, let's go this one. Fifty more million.
The Invaders. All right, fifty more. All right, later, dudes. Bye. Enjoy, bro.
